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12:37 <Hydrazine> So.
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42:35 <Steven> back....
42:42 <Steven> so.... i had fun...
42:57 <Steven> what did you all do while i was Away?
10:56 <Avatar> probably slept
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54:05 <Ballig> sup foxt
04:29 <foxtrotter> hey
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49:55 <Mort-> Hello
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00:08 <mortswishytail> Question
00:28 <mortswishytail> Ah wait never mind
00:36 <mortswishytail> Nah skip it
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08:55 <Hydrazine_> question?
09:54 <MekkisScreen> .
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19:58 <Mort-> Ok asked the question
05:57 <Spaceshot> Hydrazine_: are you thinking about playing in Everdark?
06:14 <Hydrazine_> I hadn't really looked yet.
06:25 <Spaceshot> mmk
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29:56 <Mort-> Gosh
30:01 <Mort-> Just made coffee
31:17 <Mort-> Hi
31:24 <foxtrotter> hi
31:35 * Mort- fluffs foxtrotter and begs him for a cookie
31:43 <foxtrotter> hehe
31:45 <foxtrotter> fluffs
31:46 <foxtrotter> ...
31:47 <foxtrotter> well
31:49 <Spaceshot> don't do it
31:53 <Spaceshot> it's a trap
32:16 * foxtrotter hides his cookies
32:18 <Spaceshot> mort's like a stray cat, once you give a cookie she'll keep coming back
32:20 * Mort- growls at spaceshot and gives foxtrotter puppy eyes
32:32 * Mort- uses scent.
32:36 <Hydrazine_> Stray lemur.
32:40 * Mort- smells cookies!
32:58 <foxtrotter> well looks like you found them
33:02 <foxtrotter> but guess what?
33:09 <Mort-> Trapped?
33:11 <foxtrotter> they are not actual cookies
33:23 <foxtrotter> they are a major image of cookeis
33:24 <foxtrotter> cookies
34:00 <foxtrotter> but you probably won't fail your will save as a cat
37:00 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+3 will
37:00 <diebot> Mort-, will: [1d20=1] 4
37:08 <Mort-> It failed :(
37:18 <foxtrotter> ouch
37:18 <Mort-> But god
37:24 <foxtrotter> you think they are real cookies
37:25 <Mort-> People have been mean to me.
37:38 * Mort- eats them
37:44 <Mort-> Fort save? :p
37:53 <foxtrotter> no, another will save
37:58 <foxtrotter> they are not real
38:03 <foxtrotter> but you believe they are
38:11 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+3 will
38:11 <diebot> Mort-, will: [1d20=11] 14
38:26 * Mort- winces. Probably something bad happens
38:30 <foxtrotter> probably not good enough, since I think it is a 4th level spell
38:39 <Mort-> Yeah
38:55 <Mort-> Do i think i ate cookies then?
39:01 <foxtrotter> yes, you do
39:06 <foxtrotter> you are satisfied
39:08 <Mort-> Ignorance is bliss:d
39:12 <foxtrotter> and want no more cookies
39:16 * Mort- purrs
40:36 * Mort- thinks foxtrotter is awesome!
40:45 <foxtrotter> excellent!
43:13 * Mort- cuddles foxtrotter
44:03 <foxtrotter> hum, i don't know... wouldn't that be a bit awkward? unless you are of age, or if you are really a cat
45:02 <Mort-> I'm a lemur?
45:09 <Mort-> For all things that count!
45:21 <foxtrotter> oh, ok
47:01 <Mort-> At least you can think of my wizard that way as well
47:09 <Mort-> Khaz isn't fluffy
47:18 <foxtrotter> oh
47:33 <Mort-> I'm trying not to have everyone fluffy!
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17:21 <Steven> sup sup
17:30 <foxtrotter> hey
18:22 <Steven> hows everyone doin
18:30 <foxtrotter> i am doing just fine
18:53 <foxtrotter> I just finished reading through an adventure module that I am going to run tomorrow at home
19:01 <foxtrotter> i have a few friends coming over to play
19:12 <Steven> which one?
19:26 <foxtrotter> mask of the living god
19:34 <foxtrotter> masks*
19:36 <Steven> ouch...
19:38 <Steven> yeah
19:52 <Steven> going to private
20:07 <Mort-> Mg jmj
20:09 <Mort-> Oh
20:10 <Steven> damn it how do i verify?
20:28 <Mort-> Identify?
20:29 <foxtrotter> i don't know
20:36 <Mort-> Not sure
20:41 <Mort-> Me is nub
22:04 <Steven> there we go, im doing it now
24:09 <Steven> there we go
24:14 <Steven> that was annoying
26:08 <Steven> fox sent you a pvt message
27:19 <Steven> hey mort
27:24 <Steven> guess what sam has
27:52 <Mort-> Its ok
28:02 <Mort-> Im satiated today
28:03 <foxtrotter> i didt?
28:27 <Mort-> Foxtrotter gave me cookies
28:33 <Steven> you havent even guessed what she has
29:10 <Hydrazine_> Cookies?
29:16 <Steven> nope
29:20 <Steven> she has some noodles
29:22 <Hydrazine_> Bacon?
29:24 <Hydrazine_> Oh.
29:28 <Steven> god i wish she had bacon
30:08 <foxtrotter> later  folks
30:47 <Steven> fox i tryin to talk to you about that module in pvt man
30:48 <Mort-> Have fun
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30:54 <Steven> i gives you tips!
30:55 <Mort-> Eggs?
31:07 <Steven> well hopefully he comes on later
33:41 <Steven> for the first time ever
33:52 <Steven> im considering taking an item creation feat
34:12 <Mort-> Not in pfs
34:18 <Mort-> You cannae
34:35 <Steven> i know that...
34:47 <Steven> its not for pfs op
38:05 <Steven> im thinking wonderous item
38:31 <Steven> because theres awesome wonderous items lol
38:39 <Mort-> Yeah
41:23 <Steven> i have a scone
41:24 <Steven> yay
41:46 <MekkisScreen> I have successfully brewed a potion, legitimately, in a PFS game
42:01 <MekkisScreen> the venture-captain was GMing the game.
44:40 <Steven> were you an alchemist?
49:21 <diebot> test
49:37 <MekkisScreen> Steven: yes
50:15 <Steven> then thats an exception to the rule
52:08 <Hydrazine_> hi Diebot.
52:44 <Mort-> He is a bot
53:20 <Steven> thats what he wants you to think
54:24 <Hydrazine_> Just because hes a bot doesn't mean he can't be my friend.
54:57 <MekkisScreen> Steven: not an alchemical thing, an actual potion
55:19 <MekkisScreen> Alchemists replace Brew Potion with extra bombs
57:13 <Steven> right.  so how did you brew a potion?
00:14 <MekkisScreen> it was a certain Sanctioned Module
01:27 <Steven> which one?
11:01 <Spaceshot> Steven: how's your oakling coming along?
11:58 <Steven> pretty good
12:04 <Steven> pickin out spells
12:28 <Spaceshot> heh, make sure you know that light counts a level 1 spell now :P
12:36 <Spaceshot> rather than a level 0 spell
12:49 <Steven> i dont pick light
13:03 <Spaceshot> heh
13:30 <Steven> considering when you put a +1 on a weapon you can make it glow
14:30 <Spaceshot> yes, but you wouldn't want to throw your magical weapon in a random direction to see whats ther
14:31 <Spaceshot> there(
14:33 <Spaceshot> ***
14:34 <Steven> so theres never any reason to grab light
14:51 <Spaceshot> cast light on stone, throw stone
14:52 <Spaceshot> :P
15:05 <Spaceshot> or what if your magical weapon is sheathed?
15:05 <Spaceshot> XD
15:12 <Steven> grab everburning torch, throw torch
15:35 <Spaceshot> yea, gonna be making everburning torch cost quite some more
15:43 <Spaceshot> and same with daylight spell effect items
16:14 <Spaceshot> it makes sense
16:18 <Steven> fo sho
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16:28 <Steven> but yeah, my inquisition makes things glow too
16:36 <Steven> so... light is low priority for me
16:47 <Spaceshot> yea true that
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17:15 <Spaceshot> everburning torch is probably gonna cost something like 10k
17:42 <Spaceshot> or something rediculous, because the sort of ingredients used for them are similar to those in the chalices
18:30 <Spaceshot> I'm also thinking of having the chalice enchantments work like ioun stones (you can stack multiple of the same buff, this will count as enchantment levels)
18:44 <Spaceshot> but would be activateable effects and different passive effects
19:44 <Steven> yeah, i even skipped geting daylight
20:57 <Spaceshot> haha
21:06 <Spaceshot> true illumination is sort of similar
23:05 <Spaceshot> as you'd expect, many creatures have light weakness (or whatever they call it)
24:32 <Steven> is the light person the 'good' diety
24:51 <Spaceshot> considere good yes
24:57 <Spaceshot> considered*
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25:04 <Steven> darn... no fun evil spells lol
25:07 <Spaceshot> since light is what keeps the darkness away
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25:19 <Spaceshot> :P
25:35 <Spaceshot> Keeper of Light is lawful good
25:51 <Spaceshot> Lady of Life is true neutral, Master of Death is Lawful Evil
26:00 <Spaceshot> and Bringer of Darkness is Chaotic Evil
26:25 <Steven> cool
37:42 <Steven> I think imma take martial weapon proficiency
37:51 <Steven> just so i can have a good weapon
38:16 <Spaceshot> such as?
38:35 <Steven> dunno yet
38:53 <Steven> but inquisitor weapon selection sucks except for crossows
39:09 <Spaceshot> lies, you have logbow
39:12 <Spaceshot> longbow*
39:24 <Steven> yeah and longbow
39:25 <Spaceshot> for some stupid reason you don't know comp longbow
39:34 <Spaceshot> unless comp longbow counts as longbow
39:51 <Steven> doesnt matter
39:53 <Steven> not taking it
39:59 <Steven> or rather not using them
40:34 <Steven> ranged inquisitors are all over the place
40:45 <Steven> but are totally boring
40:55 <Spaceshot> take a level of fighter then
41:56 <Steven> nah would rather just dump a feat
42:22 <Steven> inquisitor gets something every level
42:30 <Steven> so there aren't really any 'dead' levels
51:22 <Steven> oh wait morningstar does piercing
51:28 <Steven> yeah okay thats a decent option
52:02 <Mort-> Seriously my fav secondary weapon is the morningstar
52:04 <Mort-> Really
54:02 <Steven> i like weapons with threat ranges of 18-20
54:17 <Steven> so you can keen them and then you are rocking crits 25% of the time
54:24 <Steven> since its so easy to confirm as an inquisitor
54:42 <Steven> Justice: This judgment spurs the inquisitor to seek justice, granting a +1 sacred bonus on all attack rolls. This bonus increases by +1 for every five inquisitor levels she possesses. At 10th level, this bonus is doubled on all attack rolls made to confirm critical hits.
55:13 <Mort-> Only slashing weapons can do that kind of range though
55:21 <Steven> no
55:29 <Steven> a rapier has an 18-20 and its piercing
55:39 <Mort-> Ok pointy weapons
55:46 <Mort-> Don't like rapiers
55:48 <Steven> the other great thing about piercing is it works underwater
55:56 <Mort-> Can't 2 hand swing kid
55:57 <Mort-> Them
56:08 <Steven> you can use two hands on any weapon
56:40 <Mort-> You don't get bonus for rapier
56:45 <Mort-> Its one exception
57:38 <Mort-> Why most magi swear by their scimitars
57:47 <Spaceshot> is morning star simple?
58:03 <Spaceshot> scimitar has the best crit range
58:07 <Spaceshot> for a one handed weapon
58:09 <Mort-> Its a time honored tradition
58:17 <Steven> When you deal damage with a weapon that you are wielding two-handed, you add 1-1/2 times your Strength bonus (Strength penalties are not multiplied). You don't get this higher Strength bonus, however, when using a light weapons with two hands.
58:24 <Mort-> Can use cutlass and rapier
58:43 <Steven> a rapier is not a light weapon
58:53 <Mort-> Read rapier entry
58:55 <Mort-> Itself
59:06 <Steven> but it counts as a light weapon for the purposes of use with that one feat
59:12 <Mort-> Draw back you can't wield a rapier in two hands
59:33 <Steven> ide have to go look it up
59:37 <Mort-> In order to apply 1.5 times your strength bonus to damage
59:39 <Mort-> Yeah
59:42 <Mort-> Its on d20
59:43 <Steven> but why would anyone wield a rapier with two hands?
59:51 <Steven> at that point just wield two of them
59:57 <Steven> poke poke
00:00 <Steven> poke poke
00:09 <Mort-> Its why khaz is not using a rapier
00:29 <Mort-> Sometimes he doesn't want/ cannot use spell combat
00:43 <Mort-> In which is a 2 handed swing
01:02 <Steven> weapon cords are a casters best friend
01:37 <Spaceshot> just get a scimitar and a crit feat
01:44 <Mort-> How do they work exactly
01:47 <Spaceshot> well, keen scimitar and a crit feat
01:56 <Spaceshot> crit feats give you an effect when you crit
01:58 <Mort-> I have many uses
02:01 <mekkis_tablet> it doesn't stack
02:06 <mekkis_tablet> you know
02:06 <Spaceshot> and a keen scimitar has 15-20crit range
02:23 <mekkis_tablet> or at least, Spaceshot would know, if he didn't /ignore me.
02:27 <Mort-> What's the point of weapon bhord
02:34 <Mort-> Chord
02:45 <Steven> recover weapon as a swift action
02:53 <Steven> so you drop as a free action
02:55 <Mort-> I have many uses for swift action
02:56 <Steven> cast
03:03 <Steven> recover as swift action
03:04 <Mort-> Bab already +1
03:09 <Spaceshot> yea magus' require more swift actions
03:11 <Mort-> Can use it on the move
03:24 <Mort-> I have other things on my mind
03:30 <Mort-> So the point?
03:41 <Mort-> 2 handed charge that guy :p
03:48 <Steven> you cannot recover a weapon on a move action, you can only draw a weapon during a move action
03:51 <Mort-> And yes i can do that
03:55 <Mort-> Ya
04:06 <Steven> or you can sheath a weapon as a move action
04:15 <Spaceshot> weapon cords make the weapon dangle on a cord
04:19 <Spaceshot> when you drop it
05:00 <Mort-> Why would i drop one
05:13 <Mort-> Get disarmed maybe. In which is pull backup weapon
05:16 <Steven> grease
05:23 <Steven> could cause you to drop a weapon
05:30 <Steven> recover as a swift
06:08 <Mort-> If grease made me drop it
06:17 <Steven> when we were doing the scenario the other day, the braid of hair thing
06:25 <Steven> as a free action i dropped my weapons several times
06:31 <Mort-> I would still have to reflex to pick it up
06:41 <Mort-> Pull out your spare
07:09 <Mort-> Which means ill probably skip that one 
07:24 <Steven> anyways there are several things you cant do with a weapon in hand that you can do if they are weapon corded
07:32 <Mort-> Like?
07:35 <Mort-> Examples
07:40 <Steven> like say pick a lock in combat
07:46 <Mort-> Weapon chords are cheap
07:58 <Mort-> Do i look like i can pick locks?
09:04 <Steven> are we going to play sometime soon?  if so we need to let people disarm mort so she can see why weapon cords are useful
09:14 <Mort-> If i need a door opened. Our standard operational procedure is to ask the guy using the 2 handed weapon
09:19 <Spaceshot> haha
09:23 <Mort-> I have spare weapons
09:27 <Mort-> Lots of them
09:35 <Mort-> Really. All on my person
09:48 <Mort-> Packrats will be packrats
09:49 <Steven> hey space, in your game, if mort plays
09:55 <Steven> whip master enemy
09:56 <Mort-> I won't
09:59 <Mort-> No time
10:00 <Steven> first encounter
10:04 <Mort-> Anyway
10:32 <Steven> okay, the second game ever in PFSOP
10:34 <Steven> we had a paladin
10:44 <Steven> he got disarmed by a whip token
10:47 <Mort-> I have no ca at work.
11:05 <Mort-> I think know that scenario
11:09 <mekkis_tablet> whip tokens are horrible
11:15 <mekkis_tablet> quite a few NPCs have them
11:20 <Steven> the enemy picked up his fancy +2 Silver Sword
11:29 <mekkis_tablet> hardly any of their tactics involve them being /used/
11:29 <Steven> and ran off with it
11:38 <Mort-> Mek. Why didnt that guy do it to us
11:39 <Mort-> Oh
11:52 <mekkis_tablet> which guy?
12:04 <Steven> threw it into a chasm after he felt he was far enough ahead to not be caught
12:08 <Mort-> That summoner
12:39 <Steven> we spent like 25 minutes trying to figure out a way to recover the stupid silver sword
12:42 <Mort-> Again. It wasn't really physical stuff that got her
13:06 <Mort-> Mage hand. Ff in and rope out
13:27 <Steven> mage hand doesnt really help when the chasm is several hundred feet deep
14:34 <Steven> anyways
14:40 <Steven> weapon cords
14:42 <Steven> good
14:52 <Mort-> They are cheap i suppose
14:59 <Steven> yes they are
15:09 <Mort-> Again morts weapons are perfectly normal
15:10 <Mort-> Lol
15:14 <Steven> and its a nice way to prevent your 9k+ sword from getting stolen
15:19 <mekkis_tablet> the first PFS game I played, the GM had to go over to Jason Buhlman (who was nearby), and ask "What happens when a character is petrified?"
15:21 <Mort-> Nothing good even if stolen
15:29 <Mort-> Lol
15:40 <Steven> hehehehehe mekkis that happened like two weeks back to my group
15:50 <mekkis_tablet> was Jason Buhlman nearby?
15:52 <Steven> those gorgons... mean creatures
15:54 <Mort-> Totally mundane weapon
16:06 <Mort-> I told you. Smoked glasses
16:09 <mekkis_tablet> this was my first session
16:16 <mekkis_tablet> cockatrices, actually
16:22 <Steven> nice
16:28 <Mort-> Well smoked glasses still
16:57 <Steven> the DM ruled my Judgement light would give everyone who failed another save
17:24 <Steven> which was nice... cause the whore nabbed 4/6 of the party members
17:26 <Mort-> Damn its a bite
17:29 <Mort-> Won't work
17:44 <mekkis_tablet> Jason ruled that it could be replaced with 5 minute paralysis
17:51 <mekkis_tablet> back in 2009
17:53 <Steven> what a nice guy!
18:01 <mekkis_tablet> yeah
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18:13 <mekkis_tablet> he gave me a free limited wish, too
18:53 <Mort-> Can't do anything about limped
18:54 <Steven> thats a ridiculously nice guy
18:54 <Mort-> Those
19:34 <Steven> course, one of the DMs down at the shop is fun like that... the other one (bobby) isnt... course i dont like bobby
19:47 <Steven> guy is such a dick
20:21 <mekkis_tablet> Steven, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/corerulebook.png
20:22 <Steven> 3 wolverines hangin next to a Cleric who just channeled and brough a guy back to life with 1 hp
20:48 <Steven> before the paladin got to do even one action
20:49 <mekkis_tablet> still haven't used it
21:24 <Steven> bobby was like, oh the wolverines noticing the paladin is again concious, run over to him and attack
21:35 <Steven> one of them brought him back to the brink of death
21:45 <Steven> and then bobby had the other one hit
21:54 <Spaceshot> why?
21:55 <Steven> seriously thats just a dick move no matter how you cut it
22:04 <Spaceshot> did the group complain?
22:09 <Steven> i did
22:19 <Steven> cause seriously... how the hell is that fair?
22:21 <Spaceshot> did the paladin complain?
22:29 <Steven> yeah left the table
22:35 <Steven> went outside to calm down
22:45 <Spaceshot> what was bobby's justification?
22:45 <Steven> i left the table
23:02 <Steven> they were 'fiendish' wolverines
23:34 <Steven> yeah... weak justification if ive ever heard it for singling out a character for death
24:22 <Spaceshot> clearly he doesn't know how ot run PFS
24:25 <Steven> this was last night where the bard got to ride a dire bat he summoned without ever making ride or handle animal checks
24:37 <Spaceshot> because no matter what, you aren't allowed to target someone who is unconcious
24:55 <Spaceshot> because clearly that happens
25:21 <mekkis_tablet> what?
25:22 <Steven> yeah i went and bought the scenario
25:31 <mekkis_tablet> of course you target unconscious people
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25:42 <mekkis_tablet> there are times when that's acceptable
25:44 <Steven> totally not the guys tactics
25:54 <Spaceshot> it's an unwritten rule, you are not allowed to target someone who is unconcious
25:58 <Spaceshot> in PFS
26:05 <mekkis_tablet> it's not a rule
26:16 <Spaceshot> well, specifically target them
26:22 <Spaceshot> if they happen to be in the fireball, then so be it
26:30 <Spaceshot> but even then you try to avoid them
26:40 <Steven> I could see attacking the paladin if he had gotten up, or had been given an action
26:58 <Steven> but it was literaly, cleric channel, paladin back alive, wolverines kill him
27:06 <Spaceshot> even if he's brought back to 1hp, he's not even showing any signs of being concious till he acts
27:50 <Steven> at the end of the scenario bobby turned to steve(the other steve not me) and was like sorry i had to kill you but you understand right
28:09 <Steven> and steve was like no, i dont, bad DMing is like your call sign these days
28:31 <Steven> to which i couldn't keep from laughing
28:58 <Steven> oh you have got to be joking
29:21 <Steven> sam wants a blizzard from dairy queen
29:30 <Steven> but the lazy ass wont go get it herself
29:35 <Spaceshot> :P
29:46 <Steven> i swear im just her errand boy
29:56 <Steven> hahahaha
30:05 <Steven> she just looked at me
30:21 <Steven> and said that if i was just her errand boy ide have already left to get it
30:21 <Spaceshot> yes, but you get paid in hopefully better ways than a regular errand boy
30:48 <Steven> okay, i better go get it
30:57 <Steven> ill see you guys in about ten
31:02 <Spaceshot> mmk
31:16 <Steven> also space, character finished
31:24 <mekkis_tablet> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz5cl5?Bearded-Devil-and-ethics-of-killing#1
31:28 <Steven> except for feats cause im waiting to see if you drop anything cool
31:49 <Spaceshot> will try
31:50 <Spaceshot> :P
32:31 <Steven> see ya soon
34:02 <mekkis_tablet> "If I was a player, and I dropped an NPC, and then his buddy zapped him and he woke up and tried to stab me? I'd full-attack his arse into the ground, and then next round I'd single out the healer and beat him into a bloody pulp as fast as I possibly could.
34:02 <mekkis_tablet> And if I were the GM, running an intelligent enemy, I'd do exactly the same thing."
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37:22 <Spaceshot> hey War_Wrecker, did you end up taking a look at Everdark?
37:30 <War_Wrecker> yes
37:33 <War_Wrecker> I want in
37:40 <Spaceshot> haha
37:42 <Spaceshot> good, good
37:53 <Spaceshot> now remember, I'm giving you the ability to go nuts in character creation
37:55 <Spaceshot> so go nuts
38:17 <Spaceshot> just make sure you read through the changes so far (I might of added stuff in after you last looked at it)
38:23 <Spaceshot> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=36
39:51 <Spaceshot> if you want to change something in a class or race, don't be scared to ask, I should be able to make something happen
40:55 * Mort- knows mek tried to kill us :p
45:36 <Spaceshot> remember, 3rd party and 3.5 material is useable in character creation
48:45 <Spaceshot> have any ideas yet War_Wrecker?
49:05 <War_Wrecker> Wizard seems like a staple
49:20 <Spaceshot> haha
49:54 <Spaceshot> first ask yourself, what do you want from wizard?
49:59 <War_Wrecker> Just with classic spells like dancing lights, flare, and floating disk (for chalice's)
50:05 <War_Wrecker> SHENANIGANS!
50:08 <Spaceshot> and then can you get that same thing out of another class
50:30 <War_Wrecker> Is there a better class for shenanigans than wizard?
51:06 <Spaceshot> probably magi
51:37 <War_Wrecker> already have a magus
51:47 <Spaceshot> not magus
51:48 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/s/magister
51:52 <War_Wrecker> ah
52:02 <Spaceshot> it's actually called a magus as well, so they decided magister
52:57 <Spaceshot> but yea, magister is ultimate shinanigens
54:02 <Spaceshot> also remember how magical light vs magical darkness works
54:13 <War_Wrecker> yes
54:16 <War_Wrecker> you take a penalty
54:21 <War_Wrecker> How heavy is the chalice?
54:34 <Spaceshot> whichever is higher caster level beats the lower caster level one
54:44 <Spaceshot> and I'd say about a small chest for basic
55:32 <War_Wrecker> really want floating disk, and illusion/evocation spells
55:50 <Spaceshot> you can do the same in magister
55:58 <Spaceshot> you just don't gain the school bonus
56:02 <Mort-> Curiosity
56:09 <Mort-> What do you use floating disk for
56:17 <Spaceshot> to carry the chalice XD
56:26 <Mort-> Why would you want one
56:34 <Mort-> Just haul it around with you
56:59 <War_Wrecker> I actually had a game once where we carried a gnome archer on a floating disk
57:01 <War_Wrecker> it was great
57:27 <Spaceshot> mort the world is in eternal darkness, and the chalice is a daylight spell
58:16 <Spaceshot> but yea, you could have wizard as your base spell list if you were to go magister
59:08 <Mort-> Probably would
59:24 <Mort-> But gnomes urgh
59:37 * Mort- looks disgusted
59:43 <mekkis_tablet> higher spell level
00:00 <Mort-> I hate gnomes :)
00:09 <mekkis_tablet> not caster level
00:19 <Mort-> They are good for only one thing - punting!
00:30 <Mort-> I think the whole channel would laugh
00:35 <War_Wrecker> The spells effective caster level
00:39 <Mort-> If i ever rolled a gnome
01:58 <Mort-> But if i ever have the urge to be a small race
02:06 <Mort-> Id go halfling
02:11 <War_Wrecker> wait that was it
02:15 <War_Wrecker> halfing archer
02:18 <War_Wrecker> gnome wizard
02:30 <War_Wrecker> Soo many good illusion spells in the wizard spell list
02:32 * Mort- winces at the bad g word
02:38 <War_Wrecker> All of the ones to do with SOUND will be really fun to use
02:49 <War_Wrecker> As I'd imagine in a world of darkness, sound is rather important :D
03:02 <mekkis_tablet> I dislike the portrayal of gnomes
03:23 <Spaceshot> yes and no, all chalices, as well as most, if not all creatures you face in the darkness, would have some form of darkvision
03:27 <Mort-> I think gnomes need to be twirled and hurled over the garden wall!
04:51 <Spaceshot> chalicers*
05:11 <War_Wrecker> Yeah but I've seen quite a few spells here which I think would play havoc with dark vision
05:33 <Spaceshot> mmm
05:51 <Spaceshot> just remember, your party might wish to see things too :P
06:09 <Steven> WOOOOOOOT BACK!
06:15 <War_Wrecker> Yeah I know
06:40 <Steven> shhhhhhh
06:44 <Steven> i got road head
06:48 <Steven> dont tell sam
06:54 <Steven> that i told you
07:21 <Spaceshot> lolol
07:30 <Spaceshot> she clearly wanted that blizzard badly
07:39 <Steven> lets make the chat scroll rapidly
07:47 <War_Wrecker> bahahah glitterdust of course
07:49 <Steven> so she cant see that i said that
08:10 <Spaceshot> this sam, makes cookies and gives road head, what a gal
08:17 <Spaceshot> XD
08:41 <Steven> shhhhhhhhh
08:48 <Steven> we shall not mention that again okay
08:53 <Steven> i dont want to get hit
08:54 <Spaceshot> mention what?
08:58 <Steven> exactly
09:01 <Steven> come on we half way there
09:04 <Steven> so anyways
09:08 <Steven> how bout them dodgers?
09:25 <Steven> mort ill give you cookies if you can say lots of random things
09:26 <Spaceshot> lolol sports
09:37 <Steven> i know
09:48 <Steven> and yeah... sam is freakin amazing
10:01 <Spaceshot> all she needs to do now is play dnd :P
10:02 <Steven> wait... i know
10:19 <Steven> BOOYA! record clear
10:35 <Steven> so.... hows everyone doin?
11:09 <Mort-> I'm semi afk
11:13 <Steven> okay...
11:16 <Steven> so...
11:19 <Steven> i was thinkin about this
11:19 <MekkisScreen> I'm working on a report
11:22 <MekkisScreen> three actually
11:31 <Steven> in the shadow world
11:45 <Steven> since everything has 'darkvision' and its merged with the shadow plane
12:17 <Steven> effectively we are looking at darkvision being normal vision
12:54 <Spaceshot> for the chalicers darkvision is practically normal vision, except it has a pretty small max range
13:03 <Steven> so if someone rocked out with increasing the darkness level
13:14 <Steven> why not just add a concealment bonus
13:16 <Spaceshot> I'd probably make a feat for it
13:35 <MekkisScreen> Can I play a Dark Stalker?
13:41 <Spaceshot> it's not a hard set max range, you don't just magically see nothing at that range
13:50 <Spaceshot> it's just the range in which you can clearly see in darkness
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14:40 <Spaceshot> yay, found another base class to spam onto monsters :P
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17:46 <Spaceshot> War_Wrecker: do you have access to the Tome of Magic?
17:53 <War_Wrecker> nope
18:03 <Spaceshot> bah, gimme a sec then
18:20 <War_Wrecker> oh yay ash storm. That will be fun
18:45 <Mort-> Hi tristen
19:47 <Steven> so fun fact
19:57 <Steven> the Palouse Creek
20:00 <Steven> right now
20:11 <Steven> its a Palouse River
20:23 <Spaceshot> :P
21:00 <Steven> some of my friends houses flooded
23:50 <Spaceshot> also remember, you can take crafting feats :P
24:15 <Steven> yeah, i was thinking Craft wonderous items
24:25 <Steven> cause... magic arms and armors are kinda bland
24:49 <Steven> theres only so much you can do to a sword
24:58 <Spaceshot> mmm
31:11 <War_Wrecker> I think I've found some spells...
32:18 <War_Wrecker> Shout
32:36 <War_Wrecker> And shadow step
33:24 <War_Wrecker> And wandering starmotes
33:36 <Spaceshot> heh
34:13 <War_Wrecker> 140ft range blink?
34:31 <Steven> so, craft wonderous item... that runs off spellcraft righta/
34:56 <Spaceshot> usually
35:10 <Spaceshot> what spell? shadow step?
36:01 <War_Wrecker> yup
36:16 <War_Wrecker> Probably going to roll up a necromancer of some sort
36:20 <War_Wrecker> Just building a spell list
36:37 <Spaceshot> heh
36:57 <Spaceshot> remember, you can go nuts, any book you find that can work with pathfinder or 3.5, I'll most likely allow it
37:48 <Avatar> has anyone started creating characters yet
37:58 <Spaceshot> Steven is practically finished
37:59 <Avatar> with character names
38:00 <Steven> me..
38:06 <Avatar> what's your character's name
38:14 <Spaceshot> Everdark campaign
38:15 <Steven> havent decided yet
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38:25 <Avatar> cmon man!
38:31 <Avatar> you need a name!
38:35 <Steven> hey, i dont name em till i finish
38:41 <Spaceshot> you are finished
38:42 <Spaceshot> XD
38:48 <Steven> waiting on what feats space comes out with
39:05 <Spaceshot> you can still name your oakling before then :P
39:18 <Steven> nope, i only name em when im finished with the character
39:29 <Spaceshot> o...k...
39:43 <Avatar> I can name him for you if you like
39:45 <Avatar> what class is he
39:51 <Steven> nope
40:06 <Avatar> he can be called Burke
40:17 <Steven> yeah... thats so not happening
40:25 <Avatar> that's his name until you give us one
40:41 <Steven> NOPE
40:48 <Steven> his name is Unfinished character
40:49 <Avatar> is his name Nope
41:15 <Avatar> "What's up, NOPE!"
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41:29 <Avatar> "Want some fries? NOPE?"
45:33 <War_Wrecker> oh god magisters are ridiculous
46:00 <Spaceshot> just a tad
46:08 <Spaceshot> looking at metamagic pool magisters?
46:47 <War_Wrecker> just everything in general
47:04 <War_Wrecker> also considering I'm going to have a condensed spell list of light and dark magic spells
48:36 <Spaceshot> haha nice
48:53 <Spaceshot> did you take a look at Tome of Magic?
49:01 <Steven> damn neal fallon can pump out some sound
49:02 <War_Wrecker> no
49:05 <War_Wrecker> you didnt link me
49:49 <Spaceshot> I so did PM it to you
50:04 <Spaceshot> bah, not registered for some reason
50:05 <Spaceshot> gimme a sec
51:17 <Steven> you know a band is epic when it has a fat bass and a fat drummer
51:19 <Steven> lol
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52:14 <Spaceshot> get that War_Wrecker?
52:16 <War_Wrecker> yup
52:43 <Spaceshot> I'd say look at the prestige classes in the second block rather than the base class (which you might understand why) XD
53:05 <War_Wrecker> virtually half of my downloads folder is for d&d
53:24 <Spaceshot> yea gets like that
53:24 <Steven> im the same only mines for pfs
53:36 <Spaceshot> 11feats so far :P
53:46 <Spaceshot> well, 11 chalicer feats anyway
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54:16 <Steven> cool
57:27 <War_Wrecker> dafuq is this
57:34 <War_Wrecker> it won't let me download without creating an account
57:50 <Spaceshot> yea that websites gone a bit loko lately
57:52 <Spaceshot> but it's free
57:55 <Spaceshot> trust me
58:46 <Steven> found out why my internet is being such a pig
58:50 <Steven> steam is updating
59:38 <Steven> clutch streaming was all choppy
59:40 <Steven> was pissin me off
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07:33 <Steven> hey ballig, didnt see you come in
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10:57 <Steven> welcoem bach hydra
11:24 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: are you playing in Spaceshot's campaign?
11:31 <Avatar> nope
11:43 <Avatar> the level 20 dragon thing was a joke
12:05 <MekkisScreen> what level 20 dragon thing?
12:13 <Spaceshot> mekkis going on about crap?
12:17 <Avatar> [19:32] <Spaceshot> I'll allow the players to agree on a starting level
12:17 <Avatar> [19:32] <Avatar> I'll be a level 20 dragon
12:40 <Avatar> Spaceshot: you don't get to ask what he's talking about if you're putting him on ignore
13:01 <MekkisScreen> heh
13:03 <Steven> yeah... you supposed to be ignoring him
13:08 <Spaceshot> I do if it's annoying to the point of making other people start blabbering on about annoying shit
13:30 <Avatar> just start ignoring people he's talking to then
13:38 <Spaceshot> haha
13:40 <MekkisScreen> or just /part :S
13:47 <Spaceshot> well that would make this channel extremely quiet then
13:55 <Avatar> not for us
13:56 <Steven> lol
14:14 <Avatar> we'd be chattering away and it would be a noisebox for us
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15:29 <Spaceshot> ok, so I've got 2 players so far
15:31 <Spaceshot> need more
15:34 <Brunius> Mekkis: Am I picking up this keyboard?
15:40 <Avatar> who's the second player
15:42 <Steven> invite mekkis!
15:49 <Steven> hehehehe
15:56 <Spaceshot> War_Wrecker
15:56 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: I'll tell you if I've won it in a few days
16:03 <War_Wrecker> yeah?
16:06 <Brunius> ha
16:10 <Spaceshot> and no, because I bet mekkis would expect me to troll him if he were to play
16:10 <Avatar> War_Wrecker: got a name for your character?
17:05 <War_Wrecker> not yet
17:14 <Steven> shouldnt have said that
17:21 <Avatar> got a class?
17:59 <Brunius> Ballig: http://games.on.net/article/15222/ACT_To_Be_First_in_Nation_to_Access_R18_Videogames
18:16 <Avatar> how convenient
18:26 <Spaceshot> give us some
18:30 <Avatar> the politicians want zombie gore but don't allow the rest of us to get it
18:33 <War_Wrecker> havent decided on wizard or magister yet
18:52 <Spaceshot> yep
18:55 <War_Wrecker> Put me down as baloneous the magister for now
19:04 <Avatar> how about Edmund
19:18 <War_Wrecker> Baloneous
19:23 <Avatar> good show
19:24 <Ballig> Avatar is going to have to come to Canberra to get bootleg games
19:29 <War_Wrecker> PRONOUNCE BALONEOUS AND THEN TELL ME NOT TO PICK THAT AS MY NAME
19:40 <Spaceshot> Ballig: he'll be walking there at this rate
19:51 <Ballig> did you crash your car again Avatar
19:52 <Avatar> yeah no more lifts for you, chief
20:02 <Spaceshot> I was more talking about him being a poor bum
20:16 <Ballig> poor bums have cars
20:26 <Avatar> Baloneous added
20:35 <Spaceshot> yes but don't usually have cash to buy petrol for an interstate trip
20:49 <Brunius> You shouldn't have that as your name, War_Wrecker
21:02 <Avatar> what's wrong with it
21:08 <Brunius> You should get Ballig to ship them to you
21:15 <MekkisScreen> or just pirate them
21:18 <Brunius> Ballig: You're gonna ship me some 18+ games, right?
21:19 <MekkisScreen> like you do now
21:32 <Ballig> I would be breaking two laws doing that
21:35 <Ballig> ask me in 5 years
21:41 <Brunius> 3 years.
21:47 <Ballig> man, makes me laugh every time
21:50 <Brunius> Fucking seriously man, cut it out.
22:05 <Avatar> yeah stop acting like a 12 year old ballig
22:06 <Ballig> I'm just saying that you need to be at least 20 to get me to send you games!
22:43 <Spaceshot> so ballig/avatar/brunius are any of you interested in Everdark campaign?
22:48 <Brunius> I'm not.
22:50 <Avatar> no
22:51 <Spaceshot> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=36
22:54 <Spaceshot> cocks
22:55 <Spaceshot> :P
23:00 <Ballig> unlikely
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23:11 <Spaceshot> I'll add you to the group too then I guess
23:15 <Spaceshot> of cocks
23:17 <MekkisScreen> !findchar Jerus
23:19 <Avatar> you can't call me names and then expect me to play in your campaign
23:19 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: Jerus, number: 352( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=352 )
23:33 <Steven> say what?!?  my name is not nope lol
23:44 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: should I change diebot's links?
24:01 <Spaceshot> Avatar: I'm calling you names because you weren't going to be playing
24:02 <MekkisScreen> is it using a CNAME or a 301?
24:28 <Ballig> it's using a 301
24:45 <Spaceshot> I'm not calling you names first then asking you to play
24:56 <Spaceshot> or are you saying the whole poor bum thing?
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25:13 <Ballig> probably the poor bum thing
25:16 <Ballig> and then the cock thing
25:22 <Ballig> you have a thing for bums and cocks
25:27 <Spaceshot> the cock thing was after
25:31 <Spaceshot> after he already said no
25:58 <Ballig> yeah, but the bum was before!
26:08 <Spaceshot> true
26:13 <Spaceshot> but if he can't take a joke
26:15 <Spaceshot> not my fault :P
26:27 <MekkisScreen> heh
28:19 <Spaceshot> anywho, there's always more players on the IRC
29:45 <Spaceshot> how's the spell hunting going War_Wrecker?
29:54 <War_Wrecker> mostly successful
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29:59 <War_Wrecker> just choosing magister or wizard
30:07 <War_Wrecker> and thinking what 3.5 books to go through
30:11 <War_Wrecker> and doing other stuff
30:18 <Spaceshot> sounds good
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30:56 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: you should play Blitzstreik in Spaceshot's campaign
31:46 <Spaceshot> Steven: like any chalicer feats so far (you get a free one too)
32:20 <Steven> ive read the ones you put up earlier
32:36 <Spaceshot> and?
33:15 <Steven> i dunno
33:25 <Avatar> why
33:32 <Spaceshot> why what?
33:44 <Avatar> not you
33:55 <Steven> I dont know exactly what will be useful in the campaign
34:06 <MekkisScreen> so he can attack random NPCs
34:13 <Avatar> haha
34:18 <Spaceshot> light
34:22 <Spaceshot> I'll give you that much :P
34:32 <War_Wrecker> light and darkness
34:33 <Steven> so im undecided on which one to get quite yet
34:37 <Spaceshot> :P
35:06 <Spaceshot> well you aren't really meant to know what is useful yet, you've only started your careers of being Chalicers for one reason or another
35:17 <Steven> im aware.
35:34 <Steven> im gonna wait till you finish the document before i pick
35:40 <Spaceshot> mmk
35:56 <Spaceshot> I think most of it is done except for feats and chalice stuff
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43:10 <Steven> Sleestak Lightning!
44:56 <Steven> sam hates this song
44:59 <Steven> sooooooooo much
45:13 <Steven> i think mostly cause i sing it with such enthusiasm
47:41 <Spaceshot> so many feats :P
47:51 <Avatar> Spaceshot: what timeslot were you looking at running ED
48:13 <Spaceshot> whatever is doable by all those who wish to play
48:26 <Avatar> what's your preference, you're the GM
48:32 <Spaceshot> because I believe both Steven and War_Wrecker are both in america
48:41 <Spaceshot> at this very moment, I don't have one
48:55 <Spaceshot> so no, there is not a timeslot to throw up on the channel yet
48:57 <War_Wrecker> nope
48:58 <War_Wrecker> Aussie
49:07 <Spaceshot> ok then, my mistake
49:08 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 1pm (Avatar, new game) / Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA | ED: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
49:10 <Avatar> oops
49:16 <Spaceshot> maybe it was time machine that was american
49:32 <Spaceshot> I know one of the very new people besides Steven was also american
49:33 <Avatar> third time lucky
49:45 <Spaceshot> why is it 0799ED?
49:54 <Spaceshot> or is that just icechat being a tard?
50:00 <Avatar> probably icechat
50:24 <MekkisScreen> it's mIRC being a tard
50:37 <Spaceshot> so you still don't care mainly due to it not being PFS avatar?
50:58 <Avatar> don't care about what
51:15 <Spaceshot> ED
51:20 <Avatar> Mekkis: remind me how that works again
51:32 <Avatar> yeah I don't want to play anything not-PFS
51:41 <Avatar> with exceptions
51:59 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: RFC1459 doesn't define the use of colours in IRC
52:07 <Spaceshot> exceptions being?
52:17 <MekkisScreen> mIRC added them, without getting any input from anyone else
52:28 <Avatar> exceptions being ToEE and brunius' campaign because of you bailing
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52:36 <Steven> awwwwwwwwww
52:50 <Spaceshot> that's harsh bro
52:52 <Avatar> and maybe a star wars campaign
53:01 <MekkisScreen> the "standard" is just what mIRC says. It's not representative of what it should be
53:03 <Avatar> because I like lightsabers and the force
53:20 <Steven> sam just said if i blast one more clutch song shes gonna punch me in the the neck
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53:25 <Spaceshot> Avatar: you can play a psionic class
53:30 <Spaceshot> they are practically jedi
53:31 <Avatar> I hate psionics
53:41 <Spaceshot> be that knife class then
53:43 <Steven> oh oh oh...
53:45 <Spaceshot> they aren't really psions :P
53:46 <Steven> play a warlock
54:00 <Avatar> no I don't even want to play a campaign at all
54:14 * Steven struts around like a chicken
54:23 * Steven pecks at the ground clucking
54:36 <Spaceshot> then don't play in brunius', I bet you he has enough people wanting to play when he finally gets around to playing it
54:45 <Avatar> if he has enough players, then I'm not going to
54:53 <Avatar> but if he doesn't, I'll make sure your decision to opt out doesn't screw him over
55:07 <Avatar> because that's actually what was harsh
55:59 <Spaceshot> would you have played if I didn't want to play in the first place?
56:05 <MekkisScreen> I think three players is enough
56:10 <MekkisScreen> but we'll see
56:11 <Avatar> no
56:15 <Spaceshot> then what's the difference?
56:19 <Avatar> 3 is a good amount of players
56:24 <Spaceshot> I had interest, then the interest is now lost
56:27 <Avatar> ToEE only ever had 3
56:33 <Avatar> best run campaign ever
56:44 <Avatar> much easier to interrelate with your party members
56:50 <Avatar> and more reliable to show up to games
57:28 <Spaceshot> yup
57:33 <Spaceshot> thats why I only need 1 more player :P
58:16 <Steven> im gonna watch some sc2 since sam wont let me blast clutch
58:26 <Avatar> who are you on sc2
58:29 <Avatar> you should play with us
58:57 <Spaceshot> you people and your never going to get cheaper game because actiblizzard are tools game
00:32 <Steven> my name on sc2 is....
00:34 <Steven> Steven
00:43 <Steven> for my dick around account
01:12 <Avatar> what's the difference between your dickaround account and your real account
01:49 <Steven> dick around account ~gold
02:00 <Steven> real account High Diamond
02:02 <Spaceshot> wait...
02:11 <Spaceshot> does that mean I could play on your dick around account?
02:22 <Spaceshot> whilst you're on your real account in theory?
02:39 <Steven> no
02:45 <Steven> cause i dont give out my passwords
02:50 <Spaceshot> I said in theory
02:57 <Steven> yes in theory you could
03:02 <Spaceshot> mmk
03:22 <Steven> ive let people use my dick around account while im present doing a pseudo lan
03:42 <Spaceshot> haha
03:54 <MekkisScreen> did you buy two copies of the game for that?
04:17 <Steven> no
04:23 <Steven> i bought a regular copy of the game
04:30 <Steven> and then a collectors version of the game
04:34 <Steven> lol
04:55 <Spaceshot> that reminds me, I'm not sure if the collectors version of D3 is worth it
05:50 <Steven> im not going to get it
06:20 <Steven> mostly
06:26 <Steven> sam said no
06:33 <Steven> so... yeah
06:33 <Spaceshot> the game in general or collectors?
06:37 <Steven> collectors
06:42 <Spaceshot> heh
06:49 <Steven> theres no way she could dissuade me from getting the game
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07:04 <Spaceshot> I dunno... probably a threesome with her twin if she had one XD
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07:24 <Spaceshot> bet that'd be up there
07:29 <Steven> yeah, wouldnt happen anyways
07:47 <Steven> ive had me some threesomes and i view it as more work for me
08:00 <Steven> cause i gotta get two girls off rather then one
08:09 <Steven> sooooooo double the work for the same orgasim?
08:19 <Spaceshot> you and your college
08:52 <MekkisScreen> well, I decided to just go with a 6850 for now
09:08 <MekkisScreen> (I imagine that this is when Ballig starts laughing at me)
09:10 <Steven> decent card mekkis
09:26 <MekkisScreen> can't go too wrong for $AU150
09:29 <Avatar> I got a 6850
09:37 <Ballig> why would I laugh at you
09:46 <MekkisScreen> because you have, like, a 6990?
09:47 <Avatar> you do laugh a lot
09:50 <Ballig> it's not like your graphics card is representational of your penis size
10:00 <Steven> epein size
10:20 <Spaceshot> GTX260
10:33 <MekkisScreen> but since it's about the same as a 5850, I'm not really expecting much of an increase in performance
10:58 <Spaceshot> get some Nvidia up ya
14:46 <Steven> alright im back
15:20 <Steven> i brought up the subject of diablo 3 collectors edition
15:28 <Steven> i failed
15:45 <MekkisScreen> I was never into diablo series
15:58 <MekkisScreen> it's just a poor, mouse-intensive ripoff of nethack :)
16:08 <Spaceshot> :P
16:19 <Steven> YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:26 <Spaceshot> NEVER
16:27 <Steven> i mean...
16:31 <Steven> i disagree
16:45 <Spaceshot> wholeheartedly
17:11 <Steven> sorry space was commenting on mekkis comment
17:20 <MekkisScreen> I understand my opinion is rather outspoken
17:45 <MekkisScreen> Steven: perhaps, but it's good to know that Spaceshot considers himself a whore :S
18:22 <Steven> well played mekkis
18:48 <MekkisScreen> thanks
18:56 <Steven> im thinkin for a name Snowbark is on the list
19:15 <MekkisScreen> for an oakling?
19:19 <Steven> yup
19:59 <MekkisScreen> Lichtrinde
21:16 <Steven> Lichtenrade?
21:42 <Spaceshot> haha
21:50 <Spaceshot> original oakling names
22:19 <Steven> no.... Lichtenrade is a place in germany
22:53 <Spaceshot> I was more talking about snowbard
22:54 <Spaceshot> but still
23:10 <Steven> i keep forgetting you have mekkis on mute
23:26 <Spaceshot> I probably shouldn't
23:36 <Spaceshot> but he likes to be elitist a lot
23:51 <Spaceshot> and by a lot, I mean it gets to the point where I was raging hard at him, so hard I get myself a temp ban
23:58 <Spaceshot> and thus the /ignore
25:23 <Spaceshot> meh, might as well go back to actively ignoring him than passively
25:46 <Steven> OH MAN!
26:11 <MekkisScreen> brb
26:18 <Steven> sam says she will let me get collectors d3
26:20 <MekkisScreen> picking up car and graphics card
26:36 <Spaceshot> haha
26:44 <Steven> she has conditions though
26:54 <Steven> probably means imma owe her dinners with her friends
26:56 <Spaceshot> no more driving head?
27:05 <Steven> soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo gonna be worth it
27:15 <Spaceshot> XD /gg (so which people know ragnarok MMO)
28:02 <Steven> ive heard of it
28:45 <Spaceshot> best emote ever is /gg
29:45 <Spaceshot> http://irowiki.org/wiki/File:Ggg.gif
30:48 <Brunius> I'm still not sure why Avatar is playing in my campaign
30:58 <Brunius> Didn't he not want to play because it wasn't PFS?
31:06 <Avatar> do you have enough players
31:35 <Brunius> Three apart from you
31:42 <Avatar> I'm out if you have enough
31:46 <Spaceshot> yea, hydra, mort and mekkis
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32:21 <Mort-> I'm not playing
32:42 <Spaceshot> in brunius'
32:43 <Mort-> For space campaign
32:46 <Mort-> But bru yeah
32:53 <Mort-> Sorry just popped back from work
32:55 <Spaceshot> haha
32:59 <Mort-> Didn't read much
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35:51 <Ballig> mort is a jerk
36:28 <Steven> totaly
36:32 <Steven> cookie stealer
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36:50 * Mort- chomps on balligs leg without remorse
37:08 * Mort- extends her claws to gut ballig
37:20 <Ballig> sorry, you don't have bestial teeth or claws
37:43 <Mort-> I do. Im a lemur.
37:44 <Steven> imo ballig is totaly an Iron Golem
37:54 <Ballig> nope, you're huichin li
39:03 <Mort-> No.
39:14 <Mort-> I'm a very angry mur now
39:32 <Ballig> nope
40:04 <Ballig> of course, if you were I'd just get animal control out to put you down for attacking a human
40:04 <Ballig> :p
40:38 <Steven> ballig you goin about this all wrong
40:40 <Steven> watch
40:44 Steven is now known as Ausk
40:51 <Ballig> that just plays into her delusion
41:00 * Mort- uses rend on ballig
41:10 <Ballig> animal control already put you down
41:20 <Mort-> Lol
42:16 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+36 Blistering Invective; 1d10 Fire damage DC 15 Reflex
42:16 <diebot> Ausk, Blistering Invective: [1d20=4] 40; Fire damage DC 15 Reflex: [1d10=10] 10
42:31 <Ballig> is it really just 1d10 damage
42:33 <Ballig> seems terrible
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42:57 <Ausk> the benefit to it is that its Dazzling display w/o having to sink feats
43:10 <Ballig> seems like it's just 1d10 damage
43:12 <Ausk> or spend a whole round doing it
43:13 <Ballig> I wouldn't waste an action on it
43:45 <Ausk> its a demoralize for everything within 30ft, thats the good thing about it
43:57 <Ballig> 1d10 damage isn't worth it
44:13 <Ausk> and with a high intimidation, its a for sure thing for them to be demoralized
44:55 <Ausk> the 1d10 fire damage is just flavor text imo, im in it for the demo effect which lowers the save for the spells that follow it
45:22 <Ausk> never discount that demo effect
45:25 <Mort-> I'm immune to fear because I'm bezerk atm
45:29 <Mort-> Anyway
45:31 <Ballig> pretty sure you aren't
46:23 <Ausk> you didnt state you were using that ability
46:27 <Spaceshot> still not sure how you get +36 to hit
46:37 <Ballig> it's +36 intimidate
46:38 <Ausk> its not to hit, thats a demo roll
46:40 <Ballig> and he's level 12
46:40 <Spaceshot> ahh
46:47 <Ausk> its an AoE
47:27 <Ausk> its a fun first level spell
48:08 <Ausk> that if you find yourself in combat against 3+ people theres no reason not to use it
48:27 <Avatar> ??shaken
48:41 <Avatar> demoralise is a bit ho hum
49:00 <Avatar> it'd be decent if it scaled
49:20 <Ausk> ive never once used the spell in an end encounter
49:32 <Ausk> oh wait i take that back
49:47 <Ausk> i used it in a fight where a vamp had like 6 minions
50:21 <Ausk> little human wanna be vamps
51:55 Ausk is now known as steve
51:59 <steve> forgot to change back
52:03 steve is now known as Steve
57:32 <Brunius> ??shaken
58:11 <Spaceshot> <?shaken
58:11 <diebot> A shaken character takes a 2 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, skill checks, and ability checks. Shaken is a less severe state of fear than frightened or panicked.
58:21 <Brunius> whatta rebel
59:23 <Spaceshot> such
59:25 <Spaceshot> shoot me
59:31 <Spaceshot> turn me into the authorities
59:52 <Spaceshot> also, how syked are you for the new GW paint range?
00:15 <Brunius> not at all.
00:50 <Spaceshot> I really hate the bottle picture, who cares about a stupid shield tarding out the colour on the label
01:38 <Steve> my night to pick what to watch and i cant find anything
02:12 <Spaceshot> put on old school transformers
02:17 <Spaceshot> breakdancing robots
02:47 <Steve> watchin the netflicks
03:06 <Spaceshot> meh
03:12 <Spaceshot> get it on netflicks then :P
03:57 <Steve> sam wants futurama
04:07 <Steve> yay for garbage ccartoons
04:24 <Spaceshot> watch some excel saga instead
04:48 <Spaceshot> guessing you're an anime guy
08:19 <War_Wrecker> hmmm
08:20 <Steve> well i do play pfs
08:30 <War_Wrecker> Can i drag an enemy into the shadow plane with shadow walk and then just leave them there?
08:48 <Spaceshot> War_Wrecker, where do you think you are?
09:04 <War_Wrecker> So what does shadow walk do?
09:08 <War_Wrecker> Can I walk to other planes?
09:16 <Spaceshot> think of it like etherealness to some extent
09:28 <Spaceshot> incorporal and whatnot
10:22 <Spaceshot> because you're in the shadow plane all the time, but the shadow plane is a shroud over the material plane rather than being fully merged with the material plane
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13:57 <Spaceshot> basically shadow walk would end up being like teleportation, but still somewhat using the shadow walk rules
14:14 <War_Wrecker> Handy
14:16 <Spaceshot> you are able to predict the target location better
14:20 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
14:29 <War_Wrecker> also do you know anything that gives you blindsense?
15:03 <Spaceshot> some races have it, barbarian can get it (IIRC) and an oracle curse gets it
15:10 <Spaceshot> I'm not exactly sure what else does
15:17 <War_Wrecker> Echolocation gives blindsight
15:20 <Spaceshot> getting a bat familiar also gives you it
15:34 <War_Wrecker> Just trying to find ways to sense in the darkness
15:40 <War_Wrecker> So I can blot out all light
15:55 <War_Wrecker> And further obscure vision to the point where dark vision doesn't work
16:36 <Spaceshot> look at the additional feats
16:44 <Spaceshot> in the campaign notes
16:48 <Spaceshot> you might like what you see :P
17:59 <War_Wrecker> hmmm
18:15 <Spaceshot> but yea, if you're a magister, you can just take magister feats
18:21 <Spaceshot> I'll give you another link
19:11 <War_Wrecker> oh yeah for the tome of magic, just looking at shadow magic right?
20:06 <Spaceshot> well, that's what I was going to show you yes, but all 3 parts are allowed
20:23 <Spaceshot> just thought that a few of the prestige classes might be what you're looking for
22:42 <MekkisScreen> well... I made it to umart
23:31 <Spaceshot> also... I'd be tempted to alter Magister to allow shadowcasting magic if you want
25:26 <MekkisScreen> wow
25:32 <MekkisScreen> this box is massive!
30:21 <War_Wrecker> You don't have to alter magister
30:37 <War_Wrecker> I think it's pretty clear that whenever you add a school of magical power, magisters can access it
32:20 <Brunius> cabbage
36:11 <Spaceshot> yea but it's not divine nor arcane
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36:19 <Spaceshot> that's what might require altering
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37:04 <Spaceshot> also, shadowcaster spells are a bit odd
37:05 <Spaceshot> :P
37:13 <Spaceshot> well mysteries not spells
37:56 <Mekkis> I should build a computer into this graphics card bix
37:58 <Mekkis> box*
38:01 <War_Wrecker> tempted to get a magus
38:06 <War_Wrecker> and go into shadowsmith
38:37 <Brunius> You totally should.
38:48 <Mekkis> an upgrade to ti4200
38:49 <Brunius> And then take a photo and upload it
38:55 <Brunius> So we can make fun of it.
39:02 <War_Wrecker> :(
39:05 <War_Wrecker> But shadow whips!
39:24 <Mekkis> Brunius, an upgrade to http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/IMG_1374.JPG ?
39:40 <Spaceshot> haha shadowsmith
39:44 <Spaceshot> why not child of the night?
39:48 <Spaceshot> or master of shadows
39:50 <Spaceshot> XD
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40:51 <War_Wrecker> Because shadow weapons!
41:00 <War_Wrecker> But yeah not rolling with a magus so not rolling shadowsmith
41:05 <Steven> sup
41:15 <Mekkis> yay
41:29 <Mekkis> a 64 page, 16 language manual
48:23 <Steven> yeah buddy
48:44 <Steven> 4 pages a language sounds like a good time
48:49 <Mekkis>    yeah
48:55 <Steven> what we talkin about?
49:08 <Mekkis> "Open computer. Find Slot. Insert card. plug in cable. turn on."
49:56 <Steven> sucks tomorrow i actually have to do stuff
50:00 <Steven> so dissapointing
52:18 <Mekkis> lucky you
52:28 <Mekkis> having so many days when you *don't* need to do stuff
53:05 <War_Wrecker> space, I think I'll have to pass on shadow magic
53:31 <War_Wrecker> The rules for it are mostly pointless if you are already within the shadow realm, and already have dark vision
54:08 <Mekkis> does /Shadow Walk/ work?
54:31 <Mekkis> what about /Shadow Conjuration/
54:43 <Steven> yeah, and sam gets to hang out and send me text messages about how awesome it is to sit around doing nothing
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57:57 <Steven> cause i totally did that the last few days to he
57:59 <Steven> her
04:41 <Spaceshot> yea a bit
04:50 <Spaceshot> the mysteries are still cool though
06:46 <Spaceshot> each to their own War_Wrecker
06:54 <Spaceshot> magister still sounds cool though
08:27 <Spaceshot> still need a third
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40:25 <Spaceshot> anyone else interested in Everdark campaign http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewcamp.php5?v=36
41:19 <Mekkis> I'm interested. In an academic sense.
42:38 <Spaceshot> to see if I allow you to butcher the campaign like you are quasi trying to do brunius' or just seeing how I run a dnd/pathfinder campaign
42:56 <Spaceshot> btw I turned /ignore off, made it dificult to understand others sometimes
43:01 <Mekkis> neither, actually
43:10 <Spaceshot> but it was funny watching ballig fight with himself :P
43:15 <Spaceshot> then in what way?
43:15 <Mekkis> closer to the latter
43:43 <Spaceshot> vagueness and riddles get you places
44:26 <Ballig> what we already know how you run a pathfinder campaign
44:38 <Ballig> what we/what if we
44:57 <Spaceshot> then you'd be some form of psychic
45:05 <Ballig> I'm psychic!
45:09 <Spaceshot> because I don't believe I've ever run a pathfinder campaign, like ever
45:34 <Spaceshot> I've run 3.5, shadowrun, WoD, BESM
45:54 <Spaceshot> WFBRPG
46:14 <Spaceshot> I think that's it
46:17 <Ballig> would you swear on a rulebook?
46:30 <Spaceshot> maybe on a TnT rulebook :P
46:50 <Spaceshot> but I don't think ringbound books have much leeway in court
48:41 <Ballig> interesting
48:50 <Spaceshot> I et
48:51 <Spaceshot> bet*
49:24 <Mekkis> actually, ringbound books are what almost every affirdatum (sp?) consists of in court
49:57 <Ballig> not sure what you mean - did you combine affirmation and affidavit
50:01 <Spaceshot> I was more of joking at the fact they make you sware on a bible which are never ringbound
50:36 <Mekkis> the statement a lawyer presents to the judge, generally in a civil case
50:56 <Ballig> if you mean a sworn statement by someone (a witness), it's affidavit
51:05 <Ballig> if you mean the alternative to swearing (if you aren't religious), it's affirmation
51:22 <Mekkis> the affidavit. I've never had to spell it before
52:18 <Ballig> I only know it because I was a court reporter for 3 years
52:44 <Mekkis> oh? what was it like?
53:20 <Spaceshot> I bet like a reporter, but for a court
53:21 <Spaceshot> XD
54:18 <Mekkis> I'm sure that Ballig can give me a better response than you.
54:51 <Ballig> exhausting
55:09 <Ballig> they do an intake of like 20 people at the start of each year, because they're lucky if one of them lasts 12 months
55:21 * Mort- doesn't like ballig today for calling me a jerk
55:52 <Ballig> basically when I was there (which was almost 10 years ago), court reporters had either been there for 25+ years (since the days of doing it by hand writing and then with a typewriter back in the office), or less than 12 months
57:37 <Ballig> but they had two different types of reporters - CAT, who do it in the courtroom with a shorthand keyboard - and audio, who audio record the proceedings then type them up in 10 minute segments
57:56 <Mekkis> was there rotation?
57:57 <Ballig> they were phasing the CAT reporters out when I was doing it (I was an audio reporter), because they cost a lot more (require 4 years of university) and aren't as accurate
58:11 <Ballig> they rotated the CAT reporters
58:24 <Ballig> basically with CAT reporters two of them would be assigned to one court, and they'd take it in half an hour turns
58:35 <Mekkis> fair enough. They still had CAT reporters in 2008 when I was on jury duty
58:39 <Ballig> spend half an hour in court typing up, and then the next half hour they had to feed the output through the computer and go through it fixing issues
58:50 <Ballig> because the keyboard works by syllables/how you pronounce words, and not how you spell them
00:40 <Brunius> Mekkis: That was what we were making fun of last time
00:53 <Mekkis> Brunius, what?
01:06 <Brunius> The cardboard case for your server
01:12 <Mekkis> ah
01:18 <Brunius> Or whatever it is
01:18 <Mekkis> but now I have a bigger box
01:20 <Ballig> they pretty much only do criminal cases because civil cases use too many big/esoteric words
01:26 <Ballig> but their one advantage is they can get a transcript out quicker
01:29 <Ballig> because it's done real-time
01:44 <Mekkis> civil cases also have a lot less writing, right?
01:59 <Ballig> an audio reporter can spend 40 minutes to an hour doing one 10 minute segment of a case, so you need quite a few of them to get the same kind of turnaround
02:01 <Mekkis> because it's all in the affidavit?
02:08 <Ballig> not really
02:11 <Ballig> civil cases can take weeks
02:13 <Ballig> lawyers love to talk
02:19 <Mekkis> yes, they do
02:28 <Ballig> if you're lucky the judge wants final submissions in writing
02:50 <Ballig> instead of letting the lawyers yap on at him for half a day each, just going over all the things they already said
04:25 <Mekkis> in a criminal case, is everything recorded, or just the stuff the jury's exposed to?
05:29 <Ballig> when I was a court reporter nothing was recorded if a CAT reporter was doing it
06:25 <Spaceshot> wow that's not the brightest
06:33 <Ballig> it was another reason why CAT reporters were being phased out - if someone contested the transcript, the best you could do is get the reporter down and say "What did you hear?" "What I typed." "You sure?" "yes."
06:34 <Spaceshot> wouldn't you want as much recordings as possible?
06:42 <Ballig> whereas with audio reporting you could audit it with a fine-tooth comb
11:04 <Mekkis> I mean, when they're discussing points of law, while the jury's out the back eating biscuits and being bored, does a transcript of that need to be produced?
13:40 <Ballig> it's rare for anything to be discussed in front of the jury
13:43 <Ballig> but yeah those points are transcribed too
13:47 <Ballig> voir doir I think it's called, forget how to spell it
17:58 * Mort- is sad
18:19 <Mort-> Ill have to throw an old faithful pair of shoes away today :(
18:44 <Mekkis> Mort-, throw them at a politician!
18:45 <Mort-> I just walked them through the rain
19:01 <Mort-> Ill miss them
19:04 <Brunius> Mekkis, you know the guy that threw his shoes at Howard just wanted to sell them for charity?
19:15 <Mekkis> no, I didn't
19:24 <Mekkis> what about the guy who threw them at Bush?
19:26 <Brunius> True story.
19:30 <Brunius> No clue about him.
19:43 <Mort-> They served me faithfully for 8 years
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20:04 <Mort-> I've already patched them up 3 times
20:11 * Brunius burns the shoes.
20:28 <Mekkis> throwing your shoes at a politician, I suppose, would increase the amount you'd get for them... if you could retrieve them.
20:30 <Mort-> Hey. We have one last walk together
20:46 <Brunius> That was how I heard about it.
20:55 <Brunius> I read an article about how he wouldn't get them back.
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21:16 <Mekkis> what about Julia Gillard's shoes
21:30 <Brunius> What about them.
21:39 <Mekkis> weren't they on ebay?
21:43 <Mort-> Surprisingly the leather glue hasn't come apart yet
21:53 <Brunius> Don't know.
22:05 <Mekkis> great... more election literature
22:12 <Mekkis> council this time
22:24 <Brunius> !throw 3d8+6
22:25 <diebot> Brunius, 3d8+6: [3d8=6,4,5] 21
22:56 <Mekkis> above average
23:55 <Mekkis> and a scammy LNP reply paid envelope
24:04 <Mekkis> what should I put in it before I send it to them?
24:18 <Mekkis> how about a bunch of Magic cards?
24:32 <Mort-> Artharax
24:36 <Mort-> However you spell that
24:40 <Mekkis> Anthrax?
24:42 <Mekkis> hell no
24:46 <Mort-> Why?
24:50 <Mekkis> I like not being locked up
25:16 * Mort- gives mek an innocent look
26:19 <Mort-> Anyway. Actually my mom asked me to throw away this pair of shoes 3 months ago
26:43 <Mort-> I lied to her that i would. But secretly brought them to office
26:56 <Mort-> So today i was faced with a choice. 
27:15 <Mort-> Either i walk in the rain with one of my office shoes
27:32 <Mort-> And probably lose them. Or lose my current pair
27:47 <Brunius> Put some judge foils in
27:49 <Brunius> And signal pests.
27:54 <Brunius> Signal pests are great.
27:55 <Mekkis> hell no
28:10 <Mort-> So i made the choice
28:11 <Mort-> But actually i think they will come out of the dipping fine :p
28:12 <Mort-> Just i can't keep them. Because once i get home with them
28:13 <Mekkis> I think I have a few spare judge foil morphlings
28:32 <Mort-> Just put in dark rituals
28:36 <Mekkis> no way
28:36 <Mort-> Hatred
28:39 <Mort-> :p
28:44 <Mekkis> my ex collected them
28:44 <Mort-> Lol why
28:48 <Mekkis> she's two off the set
28:56 <Mort-> Aw
28:57 <Mort-> I'm sowwie
29:05 <Mekkis> actually three off the set
29:05 <Mort-> But aren't dark rituals common?
29:08 <Mekkis> yeah
29:13 <Mekkis> but...
29:23 <Mort-> Hatred is pretty rare from the days i remembered
29:25 <Mekkis> she's missing the Alpha one (around $30)
29:32 <Mort-> Send them a nether shadow 
29:35 <Mekkis> the Judge foil one (also around $30)
29:44 <Mort-> Lol
29:59 <Mekkis> and the Summer Magic one (there's one website, that's got one in stock, and wants €500 for it)
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31:00 <mortswishytail> Lol
31:58 <Spaceshot> lol mort knows mtg :P
32:52 <Mekkis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68GbzIkYdc8
34:20 <mortswishytail> What makes you think i did not
35:04 <Brunius> Sorry, I can't click on youtube links, I'm listening to haddaway
37:19 <Spaceshot> meh I dunno, just the fact it's never come up
38:00 <Spaceshot> and I didn't realise lemurs know how to shuffle
38:04 <mortswishytail> You weren't here when i talked about it
38:20 <mortswishytail> We have paws you know!
38:44 <Brunius> http://www.jlist.com/product/SHIRT-LOVEH1
38:47 * mortswishytail feels offended
39:13 <Spaceshot> do you know how big a magic card is compared to a lemur?
39:22 <Brunius> Like a quarter of the size
39:23 * mortswishytail fur stands up on end
39:27 <Brunius> 1/6 maybe
39:33 <Brunius> In two dimensions at least
39:34 <mortswishytail> That's what animal growth is for ^^
40:39 <Mekkis> wow
40:52 <Mekkis> one changed hands in december 2011 - for €350
41:09 <Brunius> Alright.
41:12 <Brunius> This is crazy.
41:35 <Spaceshot> one what?
41:40 <Spaceshot> alpha dark ritual?
42:19 <Mekkis> summer magic dark ritual
42:24 <Spaceshot> summer magic?
42:27 <Mekkis> alpha's about $30
42:59 <Mekkis> it was Wizard's first attempt to print magic cards in the USA
43:32 <Mekkis> they did a run of Revised Edition, with a few corrections over the original (Serendip Efreet had the right artwork)
43:34 <Spaceshot> ahh
43:44 <Mekkis> they destroyed the whole lot
43:56 <Mekkis> except that a few boxes were mistakenly shipped to Europe
44:16 <Spaceshot> haha
44:51 <Mekkis> http://www.abuexpress.com/catalog/magic_singles-magic_rarities-summer_magic__edgar/219
45:28 <Spaceshot> just thinking how much a summer magic volcanic island would cost
45:43 <Mekkis> a plateau was on ebay a few years ago
45:46 <Mekkis> for $4000
45:51 <Spaceshot> holy shit
46:06 <mortswishytail> Lol
46:28 <Brunius> And I thought $30 was high for a card
46:42 <Mekkis> ah
46:47 <Mekkis> here's the known prices
46:54 <Mekkis> http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6578
47:09 <Mekkis> Volcanic Island --- $3666 eBay 6/28/2010 --- $3500 Private Transaction 
47:33 <Spaceshot> haha
48:40 <Mekkis> "Last year (2008), I was asking $4000 for my hurricane without any takers. People were telling me they were worth like as low as 2-2.5k. Since then, I've turned down 2 offers in January & February this year to sell for 4k."
48:53 <Mekkis> the Hurricane in Summer Magic was blue-bordered
48:58 <Brunius> Ha
50:26 <mortswishytail> Wow
50:45 <mortswishytail> Time to have my dinner!
51:34 <Brunius> night guys
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55:20 <mortswishytail> What a melee character said to a lich wannabe
55:39 <mortswishytail> May i be your death knight good sir?
55:57 <mortswishytail> Ah. If you can't beat em join em :p
56:14 <mortswishytail> Currently reading how to become a lich
56:48 <Mekkis> mortswishytail, Sandstorm
57:00 <Mekkis> take 10 levels in the prestige class, Walker in the Waste
57:00 <mortswishytail> ?
57:07 <Mekkis> like Nameless One did
57:33 <mortswishytail> And you become a lich?
57:46 <Mekkis> yeah
57:59 <Spaceshot> or go the dread necromancer class
58:06 <mortswishytail> Its every bad wizards dream to become a lich
58:09 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/~mekkis/D&D%203.5%20-%20Sandstorm%20-%20Mastering%20the%20Perils%20of%20Fire%20and%20Sand%20%5bOEF%5d.pdf
58:20 <Mekkis> no idea why that stuff's still on my server
58:40 <Spaceshot> I still say heroes of horror's lich class
58:44 <mortswishytail> Lol
59:04 <mortswishytail> Don't worry I'm too goody two shoes to do it you know?
59:17 <mortswishytail> its just academic interest:)
59:21 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, would you allow a lich in your campaign?
59:31 <Spaceshot> yup
59:36 <mortswishytail> Urm the thing is
59:37 <Mekkis> there you go mort
59:45 <mortswishytail> Liches can't die
00:04 <mortswishytail> Unless you destroy their phaclentry
00:05 <Spaceshot> if you want to start as a fully fledged lich it might be an issue (since I think they're higher than 7th level, but not sure)
00:12 <mortswishytail> However you spell it
00:16 <Spaceshot> close enough
00:26 <mortswishytail> So its see you in 1d10 days
00:33 <mortswishytail> Even if you die
01:05 <Spaceshot> yes, but you'd have negative energy affinity
01:25 <Mekkis> how is that a bad thing?
01:57 <Spaceshot> it's not the easist thing to work with party wise
02:20 <Mekkis> actually, there's a 100% pathfinder method of becoming a lich
02:30 <mortswishytail> I also believe you don't really care if you die
02:43 <Mekkis> of course you do!
02:47 <mortswishytail> Because you'll just be back in 1d10 days
02:55 <Mekkis> all your shiny stuff will get stolen!
03:01 <mortswishytail> Phylacentry
03:08 <mortswishytail> If you were a lich
03:13 <Spaceshot> plus each lich is different
03:20 <Mekkis> phylactery
03:20 <mortswishytail> You probably have some way of healing yourself
03:28 <mortswishytail> Like your negative energy touch
03:31 <mortswishytail> Heals yourself
03:37 <Mekkis> mortswishytail, Nameless one is a lich
03:40 <mortswishytail> Phylactery
03:41 <Mekkis> !findchar Nameless One
03:45 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Nameless One, number: title>( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=title> )
03:52 <Mekkis> :S
04:02 <Mekkis> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=182
05:20 <mortswishytail> Besides
05:39 <mortswishytail> I'm too gentle to be a lich
05:48 <Spaceshot> liches don't have to be evil
06:03 <Spaceshot> you just wanted to be immortal, and chose the path of eternal undeath
06:17 <mortswishytail> Can't load
06:33 <Mekkis> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=182
06:33 <mortswishytail> It says alignment requirement
06:37 <mortswishytail> Evil :d
07:25 <Spaceshot> what says allignment required?
09:03 <mortswishytail> How does the nameless one fight
09:31 <Spaceshot> by lasting the longest with his stacked amount of immunities
10:43 <mortswishytail> www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/lich
11:05 <mortswishytail> Doesnt mean you can't hit the fk out of him
11:28 <mortswishytail> Alignment: Any evil.
12:55 <Mekkis> by lasting so long that Ballig stops fudging the enemy's stats and concedes the fight
14:21 <mortswishytail> Lol
14:49 <mortswishytail> Can't you get someone who hits him for 50 damage per hit 4 x per round?
15:13 <Mekkis> sure
15:50 <mortswishytail> How much can you heal for
15:51 <Mekkis> Ballig, are you around?
15:58 <Mekkis> 5 automatically, each turn
16:28 <mortswishytail> Your dr eat up 10 per hit?
16:37 <Mekkis> yep
16:41 <mortswishytail> i looked at it magic wise nothing anyone can do to you
16:54 <Mekkis> SR40 :)
16:57 <mortswishytail> Nothing much. On a cusory glance
17:00 <mortswishytail> Yeah
17:11 <Mekkis> AC54
17:17 <mortswishytail> And all the dunno what shit resistance
17:31 <mortswishytail> Ok even jager has issues hitting that
17:41 <Mekkis> Blitzstriek doesn't
17:50 <Mekkis> he'd kill Nameless One in one round
19:05 <mortswishytail> Lol
19:12 <mortswishytail> Must be insane damage
19:16 <Mekkis> !findchar Blitzstriek
19:17 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Blitzstriek, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
19:27 <Mekkis> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=220
20:19 <Mekkis> he can make his first hit a crit
21:18 <mortswishytail> Undead cant be crit
21:38 <mortswishytail> Well at least not crit killed
21:39 <Mekkis> true
21:49 <mortswishytail> Not sure about crits
22:08 <Mekkis> even without a crit, he does 9d8+420 damage
22:26 <mortswishytail> Lol
22:48 <mortswishytail> He wins initiative?
23:10 <mortswishytail> Can't you just tell him to go and die if you win initiative?
25:38 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: I really doubt a character is ever meant to have 8arms, and have an 8armed lance
25:42 <Spaceshot> on a seige crab
26:26 <Mekkis> heh
26:43 <mortswishytail>  Your visectionist has don't know how many arms
26:50 <Spaceshot> only 4
27:01 <Spaceshot> but he didn't get them by stacking stupid templates
27:08 <mortswishytail> At least my characters are human
27:50 <Spaceshot> humans are op
27:54 <Spaceshot> because they get a bonus feat
27:58 <mortswishytail> No
28:17 <Spaceshot> yes
28:51 <mortswishytail> I don't like being human lol
29:56 <mortswishytail> Already have a half elf and elf lol
30:35 <Spaceshot> then stop saying your characters are human :P
30:50 <mortswishytail> And half orc is just wrong for magi and wizard types
30:58 <mortswishytail> Well I'm humanoid
31:08 <mortswishytail> No extra weird stuff
42:21 <Spaceshot> what the hell is arcane spellcaster and divine spellcaster as classes?
50:38 <Avatar> half orc works about as well as human in pathfinder
51:03 <Spaceshot> yup
51:18 <Spaceshot> even better when you're going kamikaze
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54:42 <Mekkis> Ballig, you around?
54:54 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, the 8 arms isn't from any templates
55:34 <Spaceshot> yea checked it out, it's from that broken race from savage species (which most of your character is from)
55:43 <Spaceshot> so what's the with arcane and divine spellcaster classes?
55:52 <Mekkis> Unearthed Arcana
56:00 <Spaceshot> ahh
56:02 <Mekkis> Ballig insisted on only three books
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56:16 <Mekkis> so Savage Species, Unearthed Arcana, and Miniatures Handboot
58:57 <Spaceshot> so how do you get +30str from warhulk when warhulk only gives +20?
59:44 <Spaceshot> nvm, says 20
00:09 <Spaceshot> still
01:31 <Mekkis> damn
03:34 <mortswishytail> Lol
03:43 * mortswishytail giggles
03:56 <Mekkis> I found out what was causing the errors
06:43 <mortswishytail> What?
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28:37 <Mekkis> cooling
34:32 <mortswishytail> Wuh?
34:51 * mortswishytail wags her tail at mek
38:08 <Mekkis> insufficient cooling made the graphics card not work
11:09 * Avatar wags his tail at mek
20:02 <Mekkis> so
20:11 <Mekkis> looks like I can crossfire
24:54 <mortswishytail> Cross fire?
29:32 <Mekkis> run two graphics cards
30:33 <mortswishytail> Bb
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41:44 <Mort> ah bakc
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59:08 <Steven> time to be up and about and busy yay!
59:14 <Steven> maybe moderaltely productive
59:35 <Steven> have a great day/night everybody!
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