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00:00 <Mort-> :p
00:04 <Avatar> what do you mean
00:10 <Mort-> Get seriously nerfed
00:21 <Avatar> what?
00:26 <Mort-> The core stone of my abilities don't work in his game :p
00:49 <Mort-> The entire concept I'm built on doesn't function in his game
00:54 <Mort-> So yeah not till level 7
01:03 <Mort-> Then there's nothing stopping me
01:24 <Mort-> Then catch the bbeg
01:28 <Mort-> Hideous laughter
01:40 <Mort-> Whole party wails on him. Matter settled
03:28 <Mort-> It was supposed to be an epic chase :p
03:38 <Mort-> he sort of got caught in record time
04:00 <Mekkis> we saved him
05:24 <Mort-> So did we
05:25 <Mort-> Anyway.
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42:08 <Mort-> Could people use  a full round action to give a syn a potion of enlarge person?
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50:12 <Avatar> weren't you saying the other day that you weren't willing to buy anyone anything
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23:26 <Avatar> let me know if you know anyone else
23:27 <Mekkis> not sure
23:31 <Mort-> Can i use scrolls? :p
23:32 <Mort-> Lol
23:37 <Brunius_AFK> I'll plug it at minecraft club tomorrow
23:42 <Mort-> Its cheaper 
23:53 * Mort- blushes
24:18 <Brunius_AFK> If I end up showing up
24:27 <Brunius_AFK> argh, sleep
24:31 <Brunius_AFK> night
26:50 <Mort-> Lesser restoration really mek?
27:00 <Mort-> 600 gp :(
27:24 <Avatar> you will likely regret not having a pot of lesser restoration at some point
27:38 <Mort-> True
27:49 <Avatar> you don't understand why until it happens to you
27:58 <Mort-> Esp I'm doing front line work and my fort save  sucks
28:11 <Avatar> it'll save your life
28:17 <Mort-> I already used a bottle of anti toxin
28:31 * Mort- shudders
28:38 <Avatar> forget antitoxin
28:44 <Mort-> I have i
28:45 <Mekkis> they saved Mytiazair's life
28:45 <Mort-> It
28:54 <Mort-> I won't make my fort saves
29:10 <Mort-> Point is. If you need it will one be enough?
29:15 <Mort-> Ok 600 gp here i come
29:20 <Mekkis> Mort-, yes
29:24 <Mekkis> one potion
29:27 <Mekkis> several scrolls
29:46 <Mekkis> actually
29:52 <Mekkis> Mytiazair now carries three
30:03 <Mort-> Do i have to do double on scrolls as well?
30:18 <Mekkis> I'd just get the eidolon one
30:25 <Mort-> Ie lesser restoration and lesser restore eidolon
30:39 <Mort-> The eidolon is more likely to happen anyway
30:49 <Mort-> I suspect someday I'm going to end up poisoned
30:54 <Mekkis> basically, you can survive taking a bit of int damage
31:05 <Mekkis> you can't survive taking a bit of con or str damage
32:27 <Mort-> Yeah
32:33 <Mort-> Ok is dr an issue?
32:38 <Mort-> For being a syn?
32:44 <Mekkis> you tell me
32:52 <Mekkis> my synthesist carries a weapon
32:55 <Mort-> Yeah i have my oil of bless weapon
32:58 <Mort-> I have tons
33:04 <Mort-> Cold iron morning star
33:28 <Mort-> Cold iron sickle
33:42 <Mort-> Silver sap ?! :p
34:04 <Mort-> Long spear
34:40 <Mort-> I did clonk people on the head with that morningstar before
36:14 <Mekkis> no, a faulchard
36:28 <Mekkis> a +1 keen adamantine one
37:04 <Mort-> Cmw time?
37:10 <Mort-> Or just save up
37:12 <Mekkis> nah
37:18 <Mort-> Ok got all those scrolls and potions
37:20 <Mekkis> what are you planning on getting?
37:31 <Mekkis> "oMF?
37:33 <Mort-> Amulet of  mighty fists
37:36 <Mort-> Yeah
37:39 <Mekkis> =oP
37:50 <Mort-> Seriously
38:01 <Mekkis> /oW
38:02 <Mekkis> ?
38:20 <Mekkis> +oI
38:21 <Mort-> What?
38:31 <Mort-> Stop making faces
38:41 <Mekkis> get =oP
38:43 <Mort-> I'm considering versatile weapon
38:52 <Mort-> Get what?
39:01 <Avatar> =o)
39:09 <Mekkis> ring of protection
39:10 <Mort-> I have a scroll of lesser evolution surge.
39:17 <Avatar> =-+-<
39:20 <Mort-> No need yet?
39:31 <Mekkis> what AC do you want?
39:34 <Mort-> I rather get my fists first
39:39 <Mort-> Not that high
39:47 <Mort-> To be honest
39:57 <Avatar>   o /
40:08 <Avatar> . /  | 
40:12 <Mort-> I definitely have no intention of spoiling peoples fun by being oped
40:16 <Avatar>     ^
40:22 <Mort-> So I'm not going to cheese too much
40:31 <Avatar> didnt' line up very well
41:13 <Mort-> My ac is normal
41:19 <Mort-> Nothing that a fighter can't beat
43:39 <Mort-> I think for lower levels if i really need to overcome evil stuff dr bless weapon will work
43:59 <Mekkis> I think for lower levels you should look at dealing with swarms first
44:15 <Mekkis> rod of wonder... works wonders
44:21 * Mort- shows off her 10 acid flasks
44:25 <Mort-> I need that too
44:38 <Mort-> But that can wait till level 8
44:40 <Mekkis> Itzamna shows off his rod of wonder
44:44 <Mekkis> !reincarnate wonder
44:46 <diebot> Mekkis, Roll: 89:  10–40 gems - value 1 gp each - shoot forth in a 30-ft.- long stream. Each gem deals 1 point of damage to any creature in its path: roll 5d4 for the number of hits and divide them among the available targets.
44:50 <Mort-> Can't help it I'm broke
45:04 <Mekkis> that gives you money, right?
45:11 <Mort-> !throw 5d4
45:12 <diebot> Mort-, 5d4: [5d4=1,2,4,2,4] 13
45:25 <Mort-> I don't think you can use it that way
45:38 <Mort-> Else you can tell your gm you have infinite gp
45:56 <Mort-> Because you play with it all day
46:38 <Mort-> The rod of wonder is for if i ever decide to get large
46:53 <Mort-> Then its use the bloody rod till I'm the right size
49:31 <Mort-> Why would 1d4 points of temporary ability damage make that much of a difference though
49:40 <Mort-> To one ability score...
49:51 <Mort-> I mean i thought you would need more them one
50:43 <Mort-> I'm even considering when i get umd skilled then i may carry fireball scrolls around...
50:49 <Mort-> To deal with swarms
00:27 <Mort-> Well that's for people buying stuff for me :)
03:49 <Steven> why would you ever waste a fireball scroll on a swarm?
07:44 <Avatar> because it's better than dying to said swarm
10:02 <Mekkis> just put on a swarmsuit :)
10:14 <Mekkis> DR 10/-
23:45 <Steven> or use a flask
24:06 <Mort-> Its too slow
24:56 <Steven> how is it slow?
25:04 <Steven> move to retrieve standard to throw
25:11 <Steven> move to retrieve scroll, standard to use
25:53 <Steven> brb, taking sam to work
27:20 <Mekkis> I prefer the rod of awesome
32:11 <Avatar> the problem with a swarmsuit is you usually don't know the swarm is coming
32:33 <Avatar> nothing really beats that rod of wonder
32:43 <Mekkis> yep
32:49 <Mekkis> it does everything
32:57 <Mekkis> pays for your drinks!
33:04 <Mekkis> gets rid of swarms!
33:22 <Mekkis> increases AC and CMB
33:25 <Mekkis> and attack
33:35 <Mekkis> !reincarnate wonder
33:36 <diebot> Mekkis, Roll: 37:  Lightning bolt (70 ft. long 5 ft. wide) 6d6 damage(Reflex DC 15 half ).
33:45 <Avatar> yeah 1 out of 100 times, anyway
33:50 <Mekkis> 3/100
33:55 <Mekkis> makes statues too
41:17 <Mekkis> Avatar, throw some XP at Bairaq
45:35 <Avatar> eh?
46:06 <Avatar> I tried to organise a game around him the other week, he wasn't keen on playing
46:11 <Avatar> when he is, I'll throw some xp at him
48:01 <Mekkis> you interested in playtesting some 5e stuff?
48:08 <Mekkis> ummm... D&D NEXT!!!111
50:14 <Avatar> yeah count me in
50:20 <Mekkis> have you read it?
50:26 <Avatar> skimmed it
50:37 <Avatar> I was looking for something different
50:43 <Avatar> most of it is the same
50:45 <Mekkis> are you willing to break your NDA by doing it online?
50:50 <Avatar> absolutely
54:48 <Mort-> Flasks do too little
55:15 <Mort-> Anyway yeah
55:48 <Mort-> Ok i need to outfit myself
57:34 <Mort-> I really have so many items i want
57:40 <Mort-> But no cash :(
58:16 <Mort-> Now mek if you were running perils of the pirate pact id willingly play at 3-4 on xyniel
58:26 <Mort-> Bring it on! :d
58:37 <Mekkis> hmmm
58:45 <Mekkis> Avatar won't want me to
58:52 <Mekkis> given that I've run it three or four times already
59:02 <Mort-> Just run anything i can play in
59:09 <Mort-> I'm not too arsed
59:11 <Mekkis> midnight mauler?
59:16 <Mort-> Already done
59:22 <Mekkis> really?
59:27 <Mort-> On mort the wizard
59:28 <Mort-> Yeah
59:35 <Mort-> She spoiled lots of fun
59:39 <Avatar> ballig will run pirates pact with a synthesist I think
59:41 <Mort-> Chase scene. Hold person
59:43 <Avatar> I don't think he's run it before
59:54 <Mort-> I can't play with ballig running
59:56 <Mort-> Not till 7
59:59 <Mort-> :p
00:03 <Avatar> what do you mean
00:09 <Mort-> Get seriously nerfed
00:20 <Avatar> what?
00:25 <Mort-> The core stone of my abilities don't work in his game :p
00:48 <Mort-> The entire concept I'm built on doesn't function in his game
00:53 <Mort-> So yeah not till level 7
01:02 <Mort-> Then there's nothing stopping me
01:23 <Mort-> Then catch the bbeg
01:27 <Mort-> Hideous laughter
01:39 <Mort-> Whole party wails on him. Matter settled
03:28 <Mort-> It was supposed to be an epic chase :p
03:37 <Mort-> he sort of got caught in record time
03:59 <Mekkis> we saved him
05:23 <Mort-> So did we
05:25 <Mort-> Anyway.
42:08 <Mort-> Could people use  a full round action to give a syn a potion of enlarge person?
50:11 <Avatar> weren't you saying the other day that you weren't willing to buy anyone anything
13:43 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 2nd 11am (MincedSushi, first steps) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
13:43 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed May 30 12:07:48 2012
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14:39 <Mekkis> Steven, alright
14:41 <Mekkis> I guess
15:02 <Steven> better then bad right?
15:08 <Mekkis> I suppose
15:24 <Mekkis> I get to play on Sunday!
15:37 <Steven> yay!
15:44 <Steven> do you not usually get to play on sundays?
17:02 <Mekkis> I usually don't get to play
17:22 <Steven> lately i havent been able to play on sundays, been GMing
17:29 <Mekkis> same here
17:39 <Steven> i guess they have noticed a drop in power levels at the tables here in town
17:50 <Steven> since ive been gming and not playing
19:22 <Steven> so i guess i get to play the next week or two
19:59 <Steven> its so weird all the new pople dont know how to build a well rounded character or optimized characters
20:33 <Steven> they just kinda build blah characters
21:15 <Mekkis> what do you know about dirty trick
26:22 <Mekkis> how much can the DM say "that's completely unrealistic, it's not going to work"?
30:17 <Steven> i would say it depends on how a person presents which dirty trick they are doing
31:16 <Mekkis> there's a player who is playing a manoeuvre master monk, who says that he can use some form of spiked chain to slash the enemy's forehead so blood drips into their eyes
31:26 <Mekkis> and claims that this is a dirty trick to blind
32:15 <Steven> ide say no at that point
32:21 <Steven> because theres a feat that does that
34:02 <Steven> dirty tricks are picking up some dirt and throwing it in the face of an opponent
34:14 <Steven> or faking an overhand chop and then kickin them in the nuts
34:46 <Steven> its not oh i slash you above your eyes and now you have blood in your eyes and cant see
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43:26 <Hydrazine> Hm.
43:38 <Hydrazine> I'd say sure. Go for it. Aslong as you don't do any damage with it.
44:00 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, really?
44:05 <Hydrazine> I don't see any particular difference between blinding someone by some good sand kicking and blinding someone with a well placed superficial slash.
44:14 <Mekkis> well
44:22 <Mekkis> it's easy to pick up dirt and throw it
44:34 <Mekkis> it's hard to achieve a well-placed superficial slash
44:40 <Mekkis> with a reach weapon
44:44 <Mekkis> held in two hand
44:47 <Steven> slashing forhead will bleed for a long time, i dunno if you have ever had a forehead injury, but i have and they dont stop bleeding within 30 or so seconds
45:09 <Mekkis> oh
45:35 <Mekkis> and as a bonus, since you're performing it with a weapon, you get the weapon's enhancement bonuses to CMB!
46:17 <Steven> then no... absolutely not.
46:21 <Mekkis> it feels awfully cheesy
46:26 <Hydrazine> Hm. Better off going for entangled then.
46:37 <Mekkis> and not particularly realistic
46:47 <Mekkis> and I'm a very liberal DM on those counts
47:07 <Steven> you only get to add your weapon bonus into the strike if it lists dirty trick as a weapon property
47:23 <Steven> i dont think chain does
47:35 <Hydrazine> Do any weapons list dirty trick as a weapon property?
47:40 <Mekkis> Steven, they changed that
47:44 <Steven> not that im aware of.
48:05 <Mekkis> and it's one of those weapons from UC
48:06 <Mekkis> I think
48:15 <Hydrazine> I don't think dirty trick as a weapon property exists.
48:33 <Mekkis> after nerfing the spiked chain, they had to reintroduce it in a later book :S
49:29 <Hydrazine> Hm.
50:20 <Hydrazine> I think I could be pursuaded to not allow weapon mods to affect dirty trick at all. Like bull rush and overrun.
50:46 <Hydrazine> All three are standard action manuevers, not attack equivalent.
50:50 <Mekkis> would you allow that sort of dirty trick iwth a reach weapon?
51:20 <Mekkis> (manoeuvre master monk gets them as part of flurry of blows)
53:01 <Hydrazine> is he why you hate maneuver master monks?
56:56 <Hydrazine> Hm. Tough call. I want to say no, but I can't quite explain why.
08:35 <Mekkis> partly
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13:59 <Mort-> Threat from the sea series by mel odom
14:47 <Mort-> Someone got a little gash near his eyebrow and it obscured his vision some on that eye
15:28 <Mekkis> immediately after the gash?
16:06 <Mekkis> was the gash delivered with a piece of chain
16:09 <Mort-> I think so. He was trying to wipe it off
16:12 <Mekkis> at 10' away?
16:36 <Mort-> I think they were having an axe and cutlass fight
16:41 <Mort-> Pirates ye know
17:47 <Mort-> Then there was this try to grab him (grapple?) Thing going on as well.
18:01 <Mort-> Moral of story. Pirates don't fight fair
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19:27 <Mort-> Anyway a good excuse for sickened on dirty trick is to kick the guy in the nuts.
19:39 <Mort-> Again with undead. Or a dragon.
19:53 <Mort-> How do you kick those in the nuts
20:05 <Mort-> Its always amused me
20:41 * Mort- ponders - could you reach a dragons nuts?
21:02 <Mekkis> yeah
21:08 <Mekkis> again, not with a weapon
22:00 <Hydrazine> I'm trying to figure out if monks really have to worry about dr/materials after all.
22:04 <Mort-> No. You're say a human
22:20 <Mort-> You tried to blind a large dragon by uh,
22:30 <Mort-> Kicking sand into his eyes?
22:38 <Mort-> How would you even reach that.
22:58 <Mort-> I think if you don't use manufactured weapons you will
23:27 <Mort-> If you find a way out let me know because i would rather not use manufactured weapons
24:53 <Mort-> I want to go full natural attack route for a change
25:35 <Mort-> Id say you could hit someone's nuts with a stick
26:06 <Mort-> Say if hydra was holding a large stick. I bet he could poke me at some sensitive spot :(
26:40 * Hydrazine finds a large stick.
26:46 * Hydrazine pokes Mort.
26:49 <Hydrazine> !throw 1d20+2
26:49 <diebot> Hydrazine, 1d20+2: [1d20=2] 4
26:54 * Mort- hides
27:08 <Hydrazine> Balls.
27:15 <Mort-> Only a +2? :p
27:25 <Hydrazine> I haven't rolled my stats yet.
27:29 <Mort-> Thought you would have more str :p
27:30 <Hydrazine> I just picked something.
27:33 <Mort-> Lol
27:50 <Mort-> Say i have 8 dex. That's still a miss
28:17 <Mort-> Dr has been chewing at me
29:18 <Mort-> Hey it isn't everyday i can do a pounce bite claw claw.
29:33 <Mort-> Should add a tailslap to that
30:26 <Hydrazine> Heh.
30:33 <Hydrazine> People were looking at me funny last game.
30:38 <Hydrazine> Hoku was grabbing ghouls.
30:42 <Mort-> Lol
30:55 <Mort-> Its sort of disgusting
31:08 <Hydrazine> well. Its more about the bite claw claw full attack, I think.
31:19 <Mort-> Maybe grabby should be your nickname not mind
31:20 <Mort-> Mine
31:22 <Hydrazine> But he never got full attacked by a grapple victim.
31:35 <Hydrazine> They were too busy getting folded up.
31:38 <Mort-> Matt calls me grabb
31:42 <Mort-> Lol
31:53 <Mort-> Assuming i got grappled
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32:05 <Mort-> I can make how many natural attacks?
32:15 <Mort-> All -1?
32:52 <Mort-> I bet someone will try to fold me into a pretzel :(
33:32 <Mort-> I don't exactly have to cmb or ea out of grapple you know
33:47 <Mort-> Just have to scare the shit out of my grappler
34:00 <Mort-> So he drops me and runs off
35:19 <Hydrazine> I think the best kind of dr to have, besides dr/- ofcourse, is probably /piercing
53:57 <Hydrazine> I went to the beach on the weekend. http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f220/ookichinpoko/Me/DSC02768.jpg
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19:17 <Mort-> Nice beach
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19:27 <Mort-> Water warm?
20:35 <Hydrazine> It was pretty nice actually.
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36:57 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: DR/epic is good
37:26 <MekkisScreen> tashphones: you coming this Sunday?
38:10 <MekkisScreen> Steven: would you run Masks of the Living god for us?
39:56 <MekkisScreen> looks like it's been ruled that you can't dirty trick with a weapon
39:57 <MekkisScreen> that's good
44:42 <Mort-> What's mask of the living god
44:47 <Mort-> What level scenario
45:11 <tashphones> I don't think so, but im not sure. I thought it was this Wed
45:30 <Mort-> I somehow doubt ill be running anything anytime :a
45:32 <Mort-> :d
45:43 * Mort- is a lazymur after al
45:45 <Mort-> All
46:04 <Mort-> As long as i get my crack i stay happy :p
46:32 <Mort-> I don't really feel any urges to dm anything
46:39 <Steven> back
47:33 <Mort-> Give me good reasons to dm
47:36 <Mort-> Lol
47:47 <Mort-> Can't think of any for now
50:05 <Mort-> Rather be a slackadocious
51:12 <Steven> so whats everyone doing
51:42 <Mort-> Slacking and having a weekend off pfs
51:42 <Mort->  :d
51:52 <Mort-> Anyway till i next get to play xyn again
52:26 <Mort-> Should start planning what to bring to italy.
53:54 <Mort-> Ok. For those who gm here. Why would anyone want to gm
54:09 <Mort-> Sure as an experience we should all give it a shot
54:16 <Mort-> But hey. Playing first :p
54:37 * Mort- is a sneakymur
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19:07 <Mort-> Steven. Things i won't roll. A gnome.
19:14 <Mort-> :)
26:08 <Mort-> My masks of the living god is conveniently level 3
26:14 <Mort-> Oh well
26:27 <Mort-> Just the same level xyn is
31:36 <Steven> one of the dogs at my house just snipped at me
31:53 <Steven> there was a dog outside
32:10 <Steven> i was out there checking its tags to see if i could get an owner to come pick it up
32:19 <Steven> but to no avail
32:48 <Steven> so i left it out there
33:05 <Steven> and when i opened the door, moonlight made a bolt for it
33:29 <Steven> and i managed to catch her but scotty got out and he is friendly
33:35 <Steven> moonlight was all about killing the other dog
33:48 <Steven> so i pulled her back inside
33:52 <Steven> and she snipped at me
35:37 <Steven> picked her up by her collar and extra skin and threw her across the room.
35:45 <Steven> i was a bit angry i'd have to admit
36:19 <Steven> but yeah, she fuckin snipped at me
36:51 <Steven> little bitch
37:46 <Mort->  Lol
37:56 <Mort-> How many dawgs do you have
38:03 <Steven> 3
38:10 <Mort-> Whoa
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40:59 <Steven> we have 2 boxer/bulldog mixes
41:10 <Steven> and one malamute, newfoundland, husky mix
41:41 <Steven> I got a huge shot of adrenaline when moonlight bit me, i'm all shaky now 
51:39 <Steven> sam said its sexy how i wanted to help the dog... damn right
52:45 <Mort-> Oh
53:01 <Mort-> Better make sure you clean up the bite
53:25 <Steven> its a little scrape on my skin, its not light my dog shreded my arm
32:40 <Steven> not like even
32:41 <Steven> anyways
34:13 <Steven> GAH! commodity auctions still disabled on d3
48:49 Brunius_AFK is now known as Brunius
56:30 <Mort-> Hi bru
57:15 * Mort- steals brunius chocolate chip cookies
59:48 * MekkisScreen looks at his lovely baked cheesecake
00:26 <MekkisScreen> Steven: could you run Masks of the Living God for the channel?
04:33 <Avatar> do it steven
05:19 <Mort-> Oh wait he will ban syns :(
05:48 * Mort- doesnt like cheesecake
06:13 <Steven> when?
07:48 <Mort-> Will you let a syn in?
07:52 <Mort-> :p
08:27 <Steven> no, just because you asked
12:01 <MekkisScreen> chances are Nightmare will level - after almost a year
12:03 <Mort-> Lol no matter ill wait for 
12:07 <Mort-> Mek
12:41 <Mort-> What would xyn and nightmare do in the same scenario i wonder :p
14:43 <Steven> mek i havent got my router to forward the port yet, and i dont want to put in the work to do it
14:52 <Mort-> Probably talk the shop out of everyone
14:58 <Steven> cause.... i havent found the password to it yet
15:15 <Mort-> Btw mek. How do you tell an animal that's attacking you to go down
15:21 <Mort-> You know like sit. Stay
20:59 <Steven> mek you have any familiarity with this bastard router called Westell?
32:22 <MekkisScreen> no
32:34 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: you point t it
32:40 <MekkisScreen> yell "down"
32:46 <MekkisScreen> and make a handle animal check
33:14 <MekkisScreen> Steven: want me to set up a reverse tunnel for you?
34:37 <Steven> I just cant find my password for my router
35:05 Brunius has quit (Quit: *.net *.split)
35:19 <MekkisScreen> do you have IPv6?
35:59 <Steven> i do not even know what that is
36:17 <Steven> thats some new IP thing huh?
37:16 <Avatar> Steven: sunday
37:33 <Steven> my sunday or your sunday, and do you mean this comming sunday?
37:49 <Avatar> my sunday
37:51 <Avatar> a day and a half from now
39:01 <Steven> Depends on if i can get combat assitant working
39:46 <Steven> sam has other issues shes worried about but i dont think it will matter
00:27 <Mort-> Well that's for people buying stuff for me :)
21:12 <Hydrazine> G'day Mort.
30:01 <Mort-> Gday hydra.
32:52 * Mort- waves at hydrazine
10:38 <Hydrazine> so no PFS for me tomorrow.
30:47 <MekkisScreen> what/
38:17 <Hydrazine> Got a hot date.
52:36 <Steven> hey peeps
00:28 <MekkisScreen> hey
03:34 <Steven> so hows ya doin mek
07:25 <Hydrazine> Howdy Steve.
07:50 <Steven> hey hydra
14:39 <Mekkis> Steven, alright
14:41 <Mekkis> I guess
15:02 <Steven> better then bad right?
15:07 <Mekkis> I suppose
15:24 <Mekkis> I get to play on Sunday!
15:37 <Steven> yay!
15:44 <Steven> do you not usually get to play on sundays?
17:02 <Mekkis> I usually don't get to play
17:21 <Steven> lately i havent been able to play on sundays, been GMing
17:28 <Mekkis> same here
17:38 <Steven> i guess they have noticed a drop in power levels at the tables here in town
17:49 <Steven> since ive been gming and not playing
19:21 <Steven> so i guess i get to play the next week or two
19:58 <Steven> its so weird all the new pople dont know how to build a well rounded character or optimized characters
20:32 <Steven> they just kinda build blah characters
21:15 <Mekkis> what do you know about dirty trick
26:22 <Mekkis> how much can the DM say "that's completely unrealistic, it's not going to work"?
30:17 <Steven> i would say it depends on how a person presents which dirty trick they are doing
31:16 <Mekkis> there's a player who is playing a manoeuvre master monk, who says that he can use some form of spiked chain to slash the enemy's forehead so blood drips into their eyes
31:25 <Mekkis> and claims that this is a dirty trick to blind
32:15 <Steven> ide say no at that point
32:20 <Steven> because theres a feat that does that
34:01 <Steven> dirty tricks are picking up some dirt and throwing it in the face of an opponent
34:14 <Steven> or faking an overhand chop and then kickin them in the nuts
34:45 <Steven> its not oh i slash you above your eyes and now you have blood in your eyes and cant see
43:25 <Hydrazine> Hm.
43:37 <Hydrazine> I'd say sure. Go for it. Aslong as you don't do any damage with it.
44:00 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, really?
44:04 <Hydrazine> I don't see any particular difference between blinding someone by some good sand kicking and blinding someone with a well placed superficial slash.
44:14 <Mekkis> well
44:22 <Mekkis> it's easy to pick up dirt and throw it
44:34 <Mekkis> it's hard to achieve a well-placed superficial slash
44:40 <Mekkis> with a reach weapon
44:43 <Mekkis> held in two hand
44:46 <Steven> slashing forhead will bleed for a long time, i dunno if you have ever had a forehead injury, but i have and they dont stop bleeding within 30 or so seconds
45:09 <Mekkis> oh
45:35 <Mekkis> and as a bonus, since you're performing it with a weapon, you get the weapon's enhancement bonuses to CMB!
46:17 <Steven> then no... absolutely not.
46:20 <Mekkis> it feels awfully cheesy
46:25 <Hydrazine> Hm. Better off going for entangled then.
46:37 <Mekkis> and not particularly realistic
46:46 <Mekkis> and I'm a very liberal DM on those counts
47:06 <Steven> you only get to add your weapon bonus into the strike if it lists dirty trick as a weapon property
47:22 <Steven> i dont think chain does
47:35 <Hydrazine> Do any weapons list dirty trick as a weapon property?
47:40 <Mekkis> Steven, they changed that
47:43 <Steven> not that im aware of.
48:05 <Mekkis> and it's one of those weapons from UC
48:06 <Mekkis> I think
48:15 <Hydrazine> I don't think dirty trick as a weapon property exists.
48:33 <Mekkis> after nerfing the spiked chain, they had to reintroduce it in a later book :S
49:28 <Hydrazine> Hm.
50:19 <Hydrazine> I think I could be pursuaded to not allow weapon mods to affect dirty trick at all. Like bull rush and overrun.
50:45 <Hydrazine> All three are standard action manuevers, not attack equivalent.
50:50 <Mekkis> would you allow that sort of dirty trick iwth a reach weapon?
51:20 <Mekkis> (manoeuvre master monk gets them as part of flurry of blows)
53:00 <Hydrazine> is he why you hate maneuver master monks?
56:55 <Hydrazine> Hm. Tough call. I want to say no, but I can't quite explain why.
08:32 <Mort-> But the blind someone with a superficial gash does work you know
08:53 <Mort-> There always this wipe blood off your forehead stuff
08:53 <MekkisScreen> really?
09:02 <Mort-> Uh in the book i read
09:13 <MekkisScreen> which book?
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