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06:27 <jaggedsoul> Hi guys
11:15 <jaggedsoul> hello
30:00 <Steven> what up
38:00 <Brunius> woah
38:04 <Brunius> jagged was here
49:29 <Brunius> Avatar: Because that's per day
49:42 <Brunius> If the case gets pulled out, it could end up costing you more
50:04 <Brunius> and that is cash that could be spent on armour
52:39 <Steven> so brunius hows you doin
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35:17 <Avatar> Steven: I picked up ultimate equipment today
35:22 <Avatar> good rec
39:07 <Steven> its a damn fine book
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09:59 <Mekkis> Avatar, send it here then :S
10:10 <Mekkis> I'll be picking it up when I see it at the FLGS
10:19 <Mekkis> (I worry about not giving them enough cash)
10:56 <Avatar> no I bought it
11:13 <Mekkis> wtf
11:23 <Mekkis> chkdsk just deleted about 2.4TB of data
11:28 <Mekkis> this is why I don't trust windows
13:20 <Avatar> why were you running chkdsk
13:26 <Avatar> it's kind of 15 years out of date
18:09 <Mekkis> Avatar`, it's actually the tool windows uses to check ntfs disks
30:47 <Steven> yo
05:32 <Wraith235> and I need to double check my fame / prestige before I post it
05:45 <Brunius> More importantly, WHY did it delete the data?
06:35 <Ballig> oh, you were using the web-based sheet after all
06:39 <Ballig> I thought Avatar said you were using the PDF
07:34 <Ballig> just so you know, you don't have to restrict the "Bonuses" box to just the number. if you want to split up where that +5 from perception comes from, for example, you can
07:37 <Mekkis> because it thought that the table was corrupt
07:39 <Ballig> you can put it as: +3 class, +2 racial
07:40 <Avatar> I don't know if that was wraith
07:41 <Ballig> if you wanted to
07:43 <Wraith235> got my eye on a Wand of dispell magic CL 11th - Actually I have a spreadsheet that I use (My own creation) I figured I should post the Web based one since it was here
08:01 <Brunius> what, so it just deleted it
08:04 <Wraith235> ah ... ok
08:07 <Wraith235> fair enuf
08:08 <Avatar> delete your spreadsheet at first opportunity
08:14 <Mekkis> yeah
08:16 <Avatar> it'll cause nothing but disaster
08:20 <Ballig> you don't have to, but the calculation buttons will properly separate the numbers
08:20 <Brunius> Fucking windows man
08:26 <Ballig> in case that's why you were restricting it to just +5
08:31 <Wraith235> I use it on my laptop heh
08:52 <Wraith235> I take my laptop to Games .... thats my Character sheet
09:18 <Ballig> Avatar is a bit of an online purist :p
09:37 <Wraith235> hehe
10:13 <Wraith235> I use the char sheet out of Dropbox .... and just save it after every game .. unless I dont have wireless - then I just make notes and save them fdor updating later
10:20 <Ballig> was the table corrupt
11:01 <Avatar> what
11:12 <Wraith235> nm 
11:19 <Avatar> just use the text file or PDF for online or offline
11:37 <Wraith235> Pass - I made the Spreadsheet on my own :-)
11:51 <Wraith235> its not a downloaded one
11:52 <Avatar> well at least you made it on your own
11:53 <Avatar> that's something
11:59 <Avatar> it's not like you don't know what you're doing
12:21 <Wraith235> and if I cant figure it out .... I know how to research it
13:11 <Wraith235> I currently have it set up so that Entering M into the Size Cell Transfers a 0 to all Size entries on the Sheet
13:46 <Avatar> pretty nifty
13:54 <Wraith235> and it does the same for all other sizes (L H G C, F, D T S)
14:04 <Wraith235> at the appropriate bonuses
14:23 <Ballig> that's not bad
14:40 <Wraith235> had to go to the open office forums to figure that one out
15:04 <Wraith235> =VLOOKUP(K3;$O$1:$P$10;2;0) was the Command :-)
16:32 <Wraith235> at some point I need to link that with Size based Str Bonus's / Dex penaltiees ect
16:48 <Ballig> so you had to add the size bonuses somewhere else on the sheet
17:07 <Wraith235> I just need to remember them and temp bonus add them
17:44 <Wraith235> Id like at some point for L to add in the +2 Dex / -2 Dex - Huge +4/+4 ect
18:06 <Wraith235> I have a feeling I'll have to string a 2nd Vlookup into it ...
18:33 <Wraith235> with the displays pointing twords different Cells ... 
19:27 <Wraith235> as a modifier to whats already in the Cell / Modifier Cell 
19:29 <Wraith235> Ugh
19:41 <Ballig> it might depend how you change sizes, mightn't it
19:53 <Ballig> do you ALWAYS get those bonuses no matter how you change sizes?
19:59 <Wraith235> in theory Id only have to do it for 1 Size
20:45 <Wraith235> BUT ... this is a Template I use for all my Characters ... and who knows .. I may one day want to play a druid ... and suddenly my range got a WHOLE lot different
21:07 <Wraith235> the Size bonus / penalty to AC - yes
21:08 <Avatar> I'm so glad I play an urban druid
21:19 <Ballig> yeah, to AC and attack it's the same
21:21 <Avatar> no wild shaping until 8th
21:29 <Ballig> but I'm thinking more about the modifiers to dex and str
21:38 <Ballig> which you do get when you use Enlarge Person, but I don't know that you get every time you change sizes
21:44 <Ballig> wild shaping as a druid is a good example of that
21:58 <Avatar> mekkis
22:09 <Avatar> Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of Angels
22:09 <Avatar> Bloodlines: martyred bloodline is legal for Pathfinder Society but the bonus feat Leadership remains unavailable; Heritages: all heritages, and associated traits, on pages 21–23 are legal; Feats: all feats on pages 24–25 are legal except Supernal Feast; Magic: bard masterpieces are legal; Other: variant assimar abilities are not legal for Pathfinder Society; 
22:14 <Wraith235> the Str/Dex is only for Enlarge person or Reduce
22:36 <Avatar> (there's more listed for blood of angels, but that last bit is the important bit)
23:29 <Wraith235> I suppose its something I would add to specific Characters 
28:00 <Wraith235> Aight Im off .... See you on the 8th - oh does the Website show time in Local ?
28:13 <Ballig> it does if you've set your timezone in the account settings
28:45 <Wraith235> I did ... tho the schedual is showing -6:00 GMT ... Im -7
28:54 <Wraith235> and set -7 (Just confirmed)
29:08 <Ballig> get it to show -7 int he schedule if that's what you are at
29:20 <Ballig> I need to take a look at the timezone list
29:22 <Ballig> probably find a better one
30:53 <Wraith235> I'll just show 2 hrs Earlier than it shows (to be safe)
30:56 <Wraith235> Laters
31:20 <Avatar> he'll be late 
31:26 <Avatar> they alllways are
31:38 <Ballig> they alllways are
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09:07 <Mekkis> alllllways
09:50 <Mekkis> are rangers still penalised for using heavy armour?
16:01 <Avatar> yeah
20:43 <Mekkis> oh
20:51 <Mekkis> taking one level in ranger is fine
23:30 <Avatar> what do you want one level of ranger for
24:15 <Mekkis> to represent the covert training and hatred of certain groups of humans instilled in him by his superiors
24:45 <Ballig> he wants favoured enemy
25:25 <Mekkis> actually, I want the class skills
25:31 <Mekkis> and the skill points
25:37 <Mekkis> favoured enemy is icing
39:30 <Avatar> just take rogue
40:25 <Ballig> you'd lose 1 BAB by taking rogue
41:03 <Ballig> and ranger gives +2 fort above and beyond the rogue's +2 ref
41:17 <Avatar> you get +1d6 sneak attack
41:20 <Avatar> and trapfinding
41:36 <Ballig> not necessarily worth the loss of BAB and fort
41:46 <Avatar> you get reflex
44:07 <Ballig> you get reflex and fort as a ranger
44:50 <Mekkis> I don't want to take levels in an NPC class
45:05 <Ballig> how relevant
45:21 <Avatar> you think rogue is an NPC class
45:41 <Avatar> didn't you just say you wanted class skills and skill points
45:47 <Avatar> both better on the npc class than the ranger
45:55 <Avatar> maybe you should play an npc 
47:36 <Mekkis> maybe I should take levels in expert
47:41 <Mekkis> more skills than rogue
51:14 <Avatar> do it
51:32 <Mekkis> but it doesn't fit my character
53:19 <Ballig> plus you lose the BAB, am I right
54:06 <Mekkis> yes
54:07 <Mekkis> there is that
55:08 <Avatar> I've actually become quite addicted to playing my archaeologist/mysterious stranger as my low level guy
55:20 <Ballig> take levels in expert
55:52 <Avatar> pass
59:00 <Brunius> expert isn't a legal PFS class
59:09 <Brunius> This has been specifically clarified before.
59:25 <Avatar> that's not the point
06:02 <Mekkis> yeah
06:10 <Mekkis> being PFS legal is SO 2011!
06:36 <Avatar> actually synthesists were made illegal in 2012
06:44 <Mekkis> I'm going to be playing a commoner 8 / synthesist 1 !
06:50 <Avatar> da da da daaa da da dada
07:03 <Mekkis> with a level of vivisectionist
07:07 <Mekkis> and then to assassin
07:22 <Ballig> and still be better than all other level 11s
07:23 <Ballig> ha ha
09:23 <Mekkis> :)
09:52 <Mekkis> I'll have 9 arms, wielding 4 and a half greatswords
10:34 <Ballig> go 4 1/2 lances
11:16 <Ballig> or 9 lances, mounted
16:51 <Avatar> on 2 rocs
18:35 <Mekkis> no
18:38 <Mekkis> an elephant
18:50 <Mekkis> wielding a greatclub in its trunk
32:16 <Mekkis> hmmm
32:22 <Mekkis> how can I fake an aura?
33:56 <Avatar> sif 4.30
41:33 <wrothmonk> Hi avatar.
43:34 <Avatar> sup
46:21 <wrothmonk> Nothin much.
47:13 <N2H4> Yo.
48:54 <Avatar> is that to trick players or to trick npc's
49:00 <Mekkis> yes
49:12 <Avatar> mr hydra
49:43 <Avatar> I just don't know mekkis
09:58 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 8th 10am (Mekkis,level 1 module) / Sun 9th 9am (Avatar,tier 5-9) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
09:58 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Fri Aug 31 23:31:16 2012
09:58 <***> Buffer Playback...
09:58 <Mekkis> join my campaign to add 11 chapters to the Rogue!
09:58 <***> Playback Complete.
10:16 <Ballig> that's a lot of chapters
10:34 <N2H4> I guess my overall complaint is that the story is simply not ABOUT the characters in it, and I consider that sort of environment a big part of what I look for in a role playing game.
11:06 <Avatar> yeah it's more about the characters learning about the world
11:19 <Avatar> and finding their way in it, I suppose
12:01 <Mekkis> it should have been in chapter 14 from the start
13:30 <N2H4> I know some people like it, but its just not really what I'm looking for in my gaming.
14:33 <N2H4> And I think in a way I even disagree. Pathfinders can't find THEIR way through the world. They find THE way through the world. That all pathfinders are forced to move along the same paths, if you will.
14:36 <Avatar> fair go
14:42 <Avatar> at least you had a good try of it
15:17 <N2H4> For example, the concept of a storyline where a character becomes upset at the actions the society sets him on, and decides to leave it, isn't really possible. Agree?
16:48 <Avatar> you could, but that's the end of the game
17:04 <Avatar> that's not a good example
17:27 <Avatar> if you were upset at the actions the society sets him on, and decided to take action to deal with it, that kind of thing can be improvised by a GM going off the rails
17:51 <Avatar> the only thing you need to consider is keeping everyone at the table's interest
18:12 <Avatar> it works well if it's decided like that as a group
18:19 <N2H4> And then what?
18:24 <N2H4> Where does it go from there?
20:06 <N2H4> Could you have more than one session like this? Or would that be the end of the game again?
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26:19 <Avatar> well it becomes part of your character
27:44 <wrothmonk> I don't think that would work though in pathfinder society. I mean, how would the GM legally give credit for a game like that?
29:12 <Avatar> credit has nothing to do with it
29:17 <Avatar> it's roleplay
29:19 <N2H4> And then the next sessions starts with VCs inviting your rebel characters in to assign them a mission? Does that make sense?
29:35 <Avatar> it makes sense if you're still part of the society
29:43 <N2H4> And if you aren't?
29:48 <N2H4> Then you aren't playing the game anymore, huh?
29:53 <Avatar> then you've roleplayed yourself out of the game
30:08 <Avatar> that's like any campaign
30:26 <Avatar> if the game is the world's largest dungeon, and you don't plan to go in, the game is over
30:48 <Avatar> the society is the point of the game
30:57 <N2H4> I disagree. In a homebrew campaign, the NATURE of the campaign would shift to match the direction of the characters.
31:09 <N2H4> No, the people playing the game is the point of the game.
31:16 <Avatar> you're talking about a very specific type of game
31:22 <N2H4> Or rather, the enjoyment of the game is the point of the game.
31:24 <Avatar> no premade is made like that
31:32 <Avatar> I meant the storyline
34:57 <N2H4> I think you're talking about a very specific type of game, in which the players do not have the freedom to do whatever they want.
37:55 <N2H4> But either way, besides the bickering, I've made my point clear about why I am displeased with Society gameplay. You understand it, and thats good enough. I think its important to consider wha we have accomplished with this conversation.
38:18 <Avatar> it's all good
39:53 <N2H4> How do you feel about the differences between society gameplay and other styles?
41:24 <N2H4> Are you entirely satisfied? Does the Society fulfill your every wish?
41:47 <Avatar> I like being able to alternate between characters
41:54 <Avatar> and I like the mission based play
41:56 <Avatar> one per session
42:06 <Avatar> with modules and specials on the rare occasion
43:00 <Avatar> campaign play is good if I want to get attached to the character, but I'm finding I don't really want that anymore
43:50 <Avatar> I don't know if I'd like having to play just Buck or just Snickers for ages
44:49 <Avatar> or god, just Cairo 
45:13 <Avatar> you could say I don't like to commit :P
46:14 <N2H4> Thats great. I'm glad the system does work for some people.
46:52 <N2H4> I find myself missing big goals, an overall endpoint to the campaign.
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57:26 <wrothmonk> I'd thought I'd never say this; Designing rockets to specifically blow up in certain ways gets boring.
01:36 <Mekkis> I completely agree with you N2H4
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07:11 <Brunius> Ha
07:20 <Brunius> Spaceshot is quitting 40k
08:58 <Mekkis> Ballig, or Avatar 
09:09 <Mekkis> put me down for running something next Saturday
09:16 <Mekkis> 8th september
09:18 <Mekkis> 10am
11:57 <Mekkis> #37: The Beggar's Pearl, unless Brunius wants to play
13:26 <Mekkis> Brunius, do you want to play?
15:24 <Mekkis> #55: The Infernal Vault, or Master of the Fallen Fortress
16:56 <Brunius> I haven't played #37
17:03 <Brunius> But unfortunately still remember the plot
17:06 <Mekkis> you've run it
17:47 <Mekkis> the bigger question, Brunius, is will you be playing at all
18:13 <Brunius> 8th sep? might be drafting at that point
25:27 <Mekkis> or, if you really want, Godsmouth Heresy...
26:41 <Avatar> decide on a scenario first
27:03 <Mekkis> Brunius, have you played Infernal Vault?
27:18 <Avatar> sushi was planning on running infernal vault
27:19 <Brunius> nein
27:30 <Mekkis> ok
27:37 <Mekkis> Master of the Fallen Fortress it is then
27:45 <Avatar> is this a module
27:49 <Mekkis> yes
27:50 <Mekkis> a short one
27:56 <Avatar> what levels
27:58 <Mekkis> 1
29:27 <Avatar> do you want 10am or 9am
29:32 <Mekkis> 10am
29:37 <Avatar> 6 hours?
29:46 <Mekkis> call it that
29:59 <Avatar> well what's your estimate
30:07 <Mekkis> 6h sounds about right
07:56 <Brunius> Oh god my fingers
07:59 <Brunius> They are so cold
12:18 <N2H4> Winter is coming.
12:28 <Brunius> Heater is broke :(
13:17 <Ballig> actually, winter just came
13:20 <Ballig> and went
13:53 <Ballig> man, it's 12 degrees in melbourne and both Avatar and Brunius are complaining
13:55 <N2H4> This changes the validity of my statement by not a single quanta.
13:56 <Ballig> it's 6 degrees here :p
14:09 <Brunius> Do you have heating?
14:30 <Ballig> do I look like a chump
14:46 <Brunius> do you feel like answering my question
14:57 <Avatar> you look like a chump to me
15:00 <Ballig> I have a glorious reverse cycle air conditioner
15:27 <N2H4> I think you look like a chump too.
15:29 <Brunius> Is that a heater
15:53 <Ballig> yep
16:19 <Brunius> I currently have no heater
16:26 <Brunius> It broked
16:29 <Ballig> sux4u
16:44 <Ballig> still, 12 degrees isn't too bad if you dress for it
17:00 <Brunius> And how do I dress for it overlord
17:11 <Brunius> (I might mention it's only my fingertips that are complaining)
17:15 <Ballig> jumper, tracksuit pants, ugg boots, maybe gloves?
17:15 <Ballig> :p
17:28 <Ballig> gloves are a huge pain when typing though
17:30 <Ballig> fingerless gloves can work
17:42 <Brunius> I am wearing fingerless gloves
18:03 <N2H4> Do what I did in new york when my heating got knocked out by a blizzard.
18:17 <N2H4> Turn the stove on high and bask infront of it.
18:22 <Ballig> ha
18:54 <N2H4> And you guys aren't even snow cold.
19:13 <Avatar> I don't understand fingerless gloves
19:22 <Avatar> don't your fingertips get cold
19:32 <Avatar> that is the coldest part of your hand
19:53 <Brunius> N2H4: It's probably colder here than it is where Avatar is
20:09 <Avatar> yeah it is warmer here than anywhere else that doesn't have a heater
20:11 <N2H4> Is it at 0c or less?
20:28 <Brunius> checking, but considering the pool hasn't frozen, I'm going to guess no
20:54 <N2H4> Thats understandable if it just got there. Takes a while to chill a whole pool.
21:02 <Brunius> 6.2 degrees
22:43 <Brunius> It's snowed here twice in the last 5-6 years (and each time it was a "once in a lifetime event"), so it's got the potential to get below 0
22:53 <Brunius> But I don't think it will today
23:03 <N2H4> Snow can be fun. For a little quite.
23:12 <N2H4> Then its just this cold, wet, mess outside.
23:16 <Ballig> it's been below 0 here evey day for the last week
23:19 <Ballig> it snowed here a week ago
23:30 <N2H4> How much?
23:38 <Ballig> not heavy, and only in a few suburbs
23:42 <Ballig> it's not a common occurrence
23:46 <Brunius> Was it in Woden
23:50 <Ballig> I wish, that's where I live
23:53 <Ballig> it was in Belconnen and the city
23:58 <Brunius> Ah
24:05 <Ballig> might've snowed near where those people live who you are related to
24:16 <Brunius> They live in Pearce
24:19 <Ballig> oh
24:24 <Ballig> I thought they were in somewhere starting with S
24:48 <Brunius> My godparents live in somewhere starting with an S
25:02 <Brunius> Can't remember the exact name
25:07 <Brunius> Some PM, I thin
25:09 <Brunius> k
25:19 <Ballig> scullin
25:31 <Brunius> Yeah, that's it
25:40 <Ballig> yeah that's right next to belconnen, it might've snowed there
25:44 <Ballig> I live in Pearce
26:27 <N2H4> I live in Florida. Where we have rain on a regular basis. And even winter's a perfectly fine time to grow tomatoes.
26:37 <Brunius> pfft
26:48 <Brunius> didn't you just get hurricaned or something
26:54 <N2H4> Nah, it missed.
27:03 <N2H4> Rained for like 2 days straight though.
29:53 <N2H4> It wasn't even a hurricane when it swung by here, just a tropical storm.
40:29 <Avatar> aren't all the suburbs in canberra named after PM's
40:55 <Mekkis> wow
41:09 <Mekkis>    Non-human aasimars have the same statistics as human
41:09 <Mekkis> aasimars with the exception of size. Thus a halfling aasimar
41:09 <Mekkis> is Small but otherwise possesses the same statistics and
41:09 <Mekkis> abilities as a human aasimar-the difference is purely
41:09 <Mekkis> cosmetic.
41:19 <Mekkis> a small race without a strength penalty!
41:21 <Mekkis> sign me up!
44:05 <Avatar> where's that from
47:08 <Mekkis> Blood of angels
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48:14 * Mekkis anticipates an influx of halfling-aasimar cavaliers
48:49 <Mekkis> hmmm
49:23 <Mekkis> one could argue that since aasimar is legal for play, they can play a Storm Giant aasimar, and begin play Huge
51:16 <Avatar> try that
52:05 <Mekkis> (FYI, if anyone wants to bring a newly-created storm-giant aasimar to the table next Saturday, They Are Welcome To!
52:12 <Mekkis> )
52:52 <Avatar> we should all do that
52:57 <Mekkis> be my guest
53:13 <Avatar> storm giant aasimar is in blood of angels?
53:14 <Mekkis> the worst that will happen is that you'll need to do a full rebuild
53:30 <Mekkis> you use the aasimar stats and the storm giant size
53:34 <Mekkis> that's it
54:13 <Avatar> is there a colossal sized aasimar
54:24 <Mekkis> don't think so
54:33 <Avatar> where did you get storm giant
54:47 <Mekkis> are there any colossal sized humanoids or monsterous humanoids?
54:55 <Avatar> no idea
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59:22 <Avatar> does anyone have a pdf of ultimate equipment
59:31 <Mekkis> yes
59:47 <Avatar> does it have your name on it
00:10 <Avatar> I want to preview it before I buy it but I can't find it
00:18 <Mekkis> no
00:25 <Avatar> send it this way
00:31 <Mekkis> no
00:37 <Avatar> why not
01:06 <Mekkis> because it's not mine
01:23 <Mekkis> and I don't have it
01:37 <Avatar> you just said you did
01:40 <Mekkis> no
01:41 <Avatar> and that it wasn't !
01:43 <Mekkis> I said someone did
01:52 <Avatar> cmon
01:56 <Mekkis> my local VC does. It has his name on it
02:18 <Avatar> steven said it was essential
02:22 <Avatar> but that's steven
03:59 <Avatar> I will just get it
04:00 <Mekkis> my local VC isn't Steven any more!
04:32 <Mekkis> Avatar, will you be DMing at unicon?
04:33 <Avatar> not darkwhite
04:41 <Avatar> unlikely
04:44 <Avatar> only if i'm asked to
04:50 <Mekkis> I think I'll offer to
05:00 <Mekkis> I feel bad about not DMing at conquest
05:02 <Avatar> I don't like GMing in person much
05:31 <Avatar> I don't feel guilty because I contribute to the community by GMing online a lot
14:59 <Avatar> a cursory glance at this book shows it to be impressive
24:21 <Avatar> wtf, prosthetic
30:20 <Avatar> a good lawyer only costs 10gp per day
30:53 <Avatar> why pay 5 prestige to get you out of jail when you can pay 100gp for a team of lawyers
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30:07 <Diazane> I have a message to leave the dawn; just as the torment is ending. I am the eagle that lingers on; I am the violence descending.
36:28 <Ballig> "I am the terror that casts magic missile in the night. I am the 5 gold discount you will never receive. I am.. Blastacadabra!"
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14:53 <MekkisScreen> stupid netssplits
15:05 <MekkisScreen> nassty netssplitssess
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30:55 <Steven> yo
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06:18 <jaggedsoul> Hi guys
11:07 <jaggedsoul> hello
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29:52 <Steven> what up
37:52 <Brunius> woah
37:55 <Brunius> jagged was here
49:21 <Brunius> Avatar: Because that's per day
49:34 <Brunius> If the case gets pulled out, it could end up costing you more
49:56 <Brunius> and that is cash that could be spent on armour
52:31 <Steven> so brunius hows you doin
35:09 <Avatar> Steven: I picked up ultimate equipment today
35:14 <Avatar> good rec
38:58 <Steven> its a damn fine book
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34:04 <Avatar> sif 4.30
41:41 <wrothmonk> Hi avatar.
43:42 <Avatar> sup
46:29 <wrothmonk> Nothin much.
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47:21 <N2H4> Yo.
49:21 <Avatar> mr hydra
55:29 <N2H4> Yes?
55:42 <Avatar> hello
55:49 <N2H4> G'day to you sir!
55:53 <Avatar> and well met
56:23 <N2H4> Defeating awkwardness with maximum rediculosity!
56:36 <Avatar> indeeed
58:31 <Avatar> I bought a galaxy s3 yesterday
58:43 <N2H4> Did you buy some pants with bigger pockets to go with it?
58:43 <Avatar> just tried taking a photo of myself, found out it has a flash
58:47 <Avatar> a very bright flash
58:51 <Avatar> now I can't see properly
59:43 <N2H4> #firstworldproblems
00:39 <Avatar> yeah but still
01:32 <N2H4> Oh dear me, my expensive shiny new phone has a camera with a flash so bright it stings!
01:38 <N2H4> Serves you right.
01:42 <N2H4> It burns because you're wicked!
01:46 <Avatar> haha
01:59 <Avatar> it took a really bad photo of me ok!
02:04 <Avatar> I couldn't see straight
02:19 <N2H4> Man, I don't know what I'd do around here if it wasn't making fun of you and helping the new guys.
02:34 <Avatar> you could play some sweet pathfinder
02:38 <N2H4> Eh.
02:43 <Avatar> just a guess
02:47 <N2H4> I think I'm really losing interest in society play.
02:55 <Avatar> what got you
03:21 <Avatar> just don't like playing missions or ?
05:30 <N2H4> I feel like the world and the PCs in it are just fundamentally separated. That PCs lack the opportunity to really make changes to the setting, and that the scripting of the scenarios limits the options of very creative play.
06:29 <Avatar> yeah all kind of true
07:32 <N2H4> And that PCs because of this, are in a way, frozen.
08:01 <N2H4> That while you are expected to have a backstory, you are highly limited into what you can have in the game as a current story.
09:50 <Mekkis> Avatar, send it here then :S
10:02 <Mekkis> I'll be picking it up when I see it at the FLGS
10:11 <Mekkis> (I worry about not giving them enough cash)
10:47 <Avatar> no I bought it
11:05 <Mekkis> wtf
11:14 <Mekkis> chkdsk just deleted about 2.4TB of data
11:20 <Mekkis> this is why I don't trust windows
13:12 <Avatar> why were you running chkdsk
13:17 <Avatar> it's kind of 15 years out of date
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18:00 <Mekkis> Avatar`, it's actually the tool windows uses to check ntfs disks
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29:25 <Avatar> it's roleplay
29:27 <N2H4> And then the next sessions starts with VCs inviting your rebel characters in to assign them a mission? Does that make sense?
29:44 <Avatar> it makes sense if you're still part of the society
29:51 <N2H4> And if you aren't?
29:56 <N2H4> Then you aren't playing the game anymore, huh?
30:01 <Avatar> then you've roleplayed yourself out of the game
30:17 <Avatar> that's like any campaign
30:34 <Avatar> if the game is the world's largest dungeon, and you don't plan to go in, the game is over
30:56 <Avatar> the society is the point of the game
31:06 <N2H4> I disagree. In a homebrew campaign, the NATURE of the campaign would shift to match the direction of the characters.
31:17 <N2H4> No, the people playing the game is the point of the game.
31:24 <Avatar> you're talking about a very specific type of game
31:31 <N2H4> Or rather, the enjoyment of the game is the point of the game.
31:32 <Avatar> no premade is made like that
31:40 <Avatar> I meant the storyline
35:05 <N2H4> I think you're talking about a very specific type of game, in which the players do not have the freedom to do whatever they want.
37:59 <N2H4> But either way, besides the bickering, I've made my point clear about why I am displeased with Society gameplay. You understand it, and thats good enough. I think its important to consider wha we have accomplished with this conversation.
38:27 <Avatar> it's all good
40:02 <N2H4> How do you feel about the differences between society gameplay and other styles?
41:33 <N2H4> Are you entirely satisfied? Does the Society fulfill your every wish?
41:56 <Avatar> I like being able to alternate between characters
42:02 <Avatar> and I like the mission based play
42:04 <Avatar> one per session
42:14 <Avatar> with modules and specials on the rare occasion
43:08 <Avatar> campaign play is good if I want to get attached to the character, but I'm finding I don't really want that anymore
43:58 <Avatar> I don't know if I'd like having to play just Buck or just Snickers for ages
44:57 <Avatar> or god, just Cairo 
45:21 <Avatar> you could say I don't like to commit :P
46:23 <N2H4> Thats great. I'm glad the system does work for some people.
47:00 <N2H4> I find myself missing big goals, an overall endpoint to the campaign.
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57:35 <wrothmonk> I'd thought I'd never say this; Designing rockets to specifically blow up in certain ways gets boring.
01:44 <Mekkis> I completely agree with you N2H4
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05:36 <Brunius> More importantly, WHY did it delete the data?
07:29 <Mekkis> because it thought that the table was corrupt
07:53 <Brunius> what, so it just deleted it
08:05 <Mekkis> yeah
08:12 <Brunius> Fucking windows man
10:11 <Ballig> was the table corrupt
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21:50 <Avatar> mekkis
22:01 <Avatar> Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of Angels
22:02 <Avatar> Bloodlines: martyred bloodline is legal for Pathfinder Society but the bonus feat Leadership remains unavailable; Heritages: all heritages, and associated traits, on pages 21–23 are legal; Feats: all feats on pages 24–25 are legal except Supernal Feast; Magic: bard masterpieces are legal; Other: variant assimar abilities are not legal for Pathfinder Society; 
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22:28 <Avatar> (there's more listed for blood of angels, but that last bit is the important bit)
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37:45 <***> Buffer Playback...
37:45 <***> Playback Complete.
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08:04 <Brunius> Oh god my fingers
08:07 <Brunius> They are so cold
12:26 <N2H4> Winter is coming.
12:36 <Brunius> Heater is broke :(
13:25 <Ballig> actually, winter just came
13:28 <Ballig> and went
14:02 <Ballig> man, it's 12 degrees in melbourne and both Avatar and Brunius are complaining
14:04 <N2H4> This changes the validity of my statement by not a single quanta.
14:04 <Ballig> it's 6 degrees here :p
14:17 <Brunius> Do you have heating?
14:38 <Ballig> do I look like a chump
14:54 <Brunius> do you feel like answering my question
15:05 <Avatar> you look like a chump to me
15:08 <Ballig> I have a glorious reverse cycle air conditioner
15:36 <N2H4> I think you look like a chump too.
15:38 <Brunius> Is that a heater
16:01 <Ballig> yep
16:27 <Brunius> I currently have no heater
16:35 <Brunius> It broked
16:37 <Ballig> sux4u
16:52 <Ballig> still, 12 degrees isn't too bad if you dress for it
17:09 <Brunius> And how do I dress for it overlord
17:20 <Brunius> (I might mention it's only my fingertips that are complaining)
17:23 <Ballig> jumper, tracksuit pants, ugg boots, maybe gloves?
17:23 <Ballig> :p
17:36 <Ballig> gloves are a huge pain when typing though
17:38 <Ballig> fingerless gloves can work
17:50 <Brunius> I am wearing fingerless gloves
18:12 <N2H4> Do what I did in new york when my heating got knocked out by a blizzard.
18:25 <N2H4> Turn the stove on high and bask infront of it.
18:31 <Ballig> ha
19:02 <N2H4> And you guys aren't even snow cold.
19:22 <Avatar> I don't understand fingerless gloves
19:31 <Avatar> don't your fingertips get cold
19:40 <Avatar> that is the coldest part of your hand
20:01 <Brunius> N2H4: It's probably colder here than it is where Avatar is
20:17 <Avatar> yeah it is warmer here than anywhere else that doesn't have a heater
20:19 <N2H4> Is it at 0c or less?
20:36 <Brunius> checking, but considering the pool hasn't frozen, I'm going to guess no
21:02 <N2H4> Thats understandable if it just got there. Takes a while to chill a whole pool.
21:11 <Brunius> 6.2 degrees
22:51 <Brunius> It's snowed here twice in the last 5-6 years (and each time it was a "once in a lifetime event"), so it's got the potential to get below 0
23:01 <Brunius> But I don't think it will today
23:11 <N2H4> Snow can be fun. For a little quite.
23:20 <N2H4> Then its just this cold, wet, mess outside.
23:24 <Ballig> it's been below 0 here evey day for the last week
23:27 <Ballig> it snowed here a week ago
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23:38 <N2H4> How much?
23:46 <Ballig> not heavy, and only in a few suburbs
23:50 <Ballig> it's not a common occurrence
23:54 <Brunius> Was it in Woden
23:58 <Ballig> I wish, that's where I live
24:01 <Ballig> it was in Belconnen and the city
24:06 <Brunius> Ah
24:14 <Ballig> might've snowed near where those people live who you are related to
24:24 <Brunius> They live in Pearce
24:27 <Ballig> oh
24:32 <Ballig> I thought they were in somewhere starting with S
24:56 <Brunius> My godparents live in somewhere starting with an S
25:11 <Brunius> Can't remember the exact name
25:16 <Brunius> Some PM, I thin
25:17 <Brunius> k
25:27 <Ballig> scullin
25:39 <Brunius> Yeah, that's it
25:49 <Ballig> yeah that's right next to belconnen, it might've snowed there
25:53 <Ballig> I live in Pearce
26:35 <N2H4> I live in Florida. Where we have rain on a regular basis. And even winter's a perfectly fine time to grow tomatoes.
26:46 <Brunius> pfft
26:56 <Brunius> didn't you just get hurricaned or something
27:03 <N2H4> Nah, it missed.
27:11 <N2H4> Rained for like 2 days straight though.
30:01 <N2H4> It wasn't even a hurricane when it swung by here, just a tropical storm.
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40:37 <Avatar> aren't all the suburbs in canberra named after PM's
41:03 <Mekkis> wow
41:17 <Mekkis>    Non-human aasimars have the same statistics as human
41:17 <Mekkis> aasimars with the exception of size. Thus a halfling aasimar
41:17 <Mekkis> is Small but otherwise possesses the same statistics and
41:17 <Mekkis> abilities as a human aasimar-the difference is purely
41:17 <Mekkis> cosmetic.
41:28 <Mekkis> a small race without a strength penalty!
41:30 <Mekkis> sign me up!
44:13 <Avatar> where's that from
47:17 <Mekkis> Blood of angels
48:23 * Mekkis anticipates an influx of halfling-aasimar cavaliers
48:57 <Mekkis> hmmm
49:31 <Mekkis> one could argue that since aasimar is legal for play, they can play a Storm Giant aasimar, and begin play Huge
51:25 <Avatar> try that
52:14 <Mekkis> (FYI, if anyone wants to bring a newly-created storm-giant aasimar to the table next Saturday, They Are Welcome To!
52:21 <Mekkis> )
53:00 <Avatar> we should all do that
53:06 <Mekkis> be my guest
53:21 <Avatar> storm giant aasimar is in blood of angels?
53:23 <Mekkis> the worst that will happen is that you'll need to do a full rebuild
53:38 <Mekkis> you use the aasimar stats and the storm giant size
53:43 <Mekkis> that's it
54:21 <Avatar> is there a colossal sized aasimar
54:33 <Mekkis> don't think so
54:41 <Avatar> where did you get storm giant
54:55 <Mekkis> are there any colossal sized humanoids or monsterous humanoids?
55:04 <Avatar> no idea
59:30 <Avatar> does anyone have a pdf of ultimate equipment
59:40 <Mekkis> yes
59:55 <Avatar> does it have your name on it
00:18 <Avatar> I want to preview it before I buy it but I can't find it
00:26 <Mekkis> no
00:33 <Avatar> send it this way
00:39 <Mekkis> no
00:45 <Avatar> why not
00:51 <Mekkis>           Avatar they're not variant aasimar abilities
01:15 <Mekkis> because it's not mine
01:32 <Mekkis> and I don't have it
01:45 <Avatar> you just said you did
01:48 <Mekkis> no
01:49 <Avatar> and that it wasn't !
01:52 <Mekkis> I said someone did
02:00 <Avatar> cmon
02:05 <Mekkis> my local VC does. It has his name on it
02:27 <Avatar> steven said it was essential
02:30 <Avatar> but that's steven
04:07 <Avatar> I will just get it
04:09 <Mekkis> my local VC isn't Steven any more!
04:40 <Mekkis> Avatar, will you be DMing at unicon?
04:41 <Avatar> not darkwhite
04:49 <Avatar> unlikely
04:53 <Avatar> only if i'm asked to
04:59 <Mekkis> I think I'll offer to
05:09 <Mekkis> I feel bad about not DMing at conquest
05:11 <Avatar> I don't like GMing in person much
05:11 <Avatar> oh, that's p18
05:15 <Avatar> p20+ are heritages
05:37 <Avatar> wait is it a heritage
05:40 <Avatar> I don't feel guilty because I contribute to the community by GMing online a lot
15:07 <Avatar> a cursory glance at this book shows it to be impressive
23:51 <Mekkis> did you pirate that book Avatar?
24:05 <Mekkis> by visiting something like magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b194de44dcd24f1cbcac8eed6a096fcaccebcb9a&dn=Pathfinder+RPG+-+Blood+of+Angels&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80
24:30 <Avatar> wtf, prosthetic
25:02 <Avatar> I pirated blood of angels
30:29 <Avatar> a good lawyer only costs 10gp per day
31:01 <Avatar> why pay 5 prestige to get you out of jail when you can pay 100gp for a team of lawyers
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30:15 <Diazane> I have a message to leave the dawn; just as the torment is ending. I am the eagle that lingers on; I am the violence descending.
36:36 <Ballig> "I am the terror that casts magic missile in the night. I am the 5 gold discount you will never receive. I am.. Blastacadabra!"
15:02 <MekkisScreen> stupid netssplits
15:14 <MekkisScreen> nassty netssplitssess
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