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45:45 <Mekkis> I just started playing skyrim
45:47 <Mekkis> man, it'
45:50 <Mekkis> is annoying
51:21 <Mort-> whats worng heh
03:41 <Mekkis> oh
03:53 <Mekkis> the writing's rendered at the wrong depth
04:03 <Mort-> thats not my fault its your visual settings
04:04 <Mort-> I think
04:07 <Mekkis> so half the scenery's out of the screen
04:07 <Mort-> somewhere you must ahve fked up
04:10 <Mort-> either that or urm..
04:18 <Mekkis> half the scenery's insider the screen
04:18 <Mort-> your resolution isnt right or something
04:28 <Mort-> I never had ANYONE complain about htat
04:31 <Mekkis> and the writing's halfway inside a wall
04:39 <Mekkis> (I have a 3d monitor)
04:43 <Mort-> at least everyone I knwo palying skyrim seems happy
04:44 <Mort-> Oh
04:46 <Mort-> switch then
04:49 <Mort-> maybe youre too high tech.
06:45 <Mekkis> what's the point of  3d monitor if I can't use it
11:22 * Mort- facepalms, did it occur to you that hte game was created b4 3d moniotors maybe?
11:28 <Mort-> Also. if I watch 3-D movies ILl get dizzy
11:30 <Mort-> dont like it
11:32 <Mort-> lol
11:39 <Mekkis> it wasn't
11:45 <Mekkis> my 3d monitor was made in 2009
17:56 <Mort-> lol
18:05 <Mort-> somewhere u fked up the settings
47:43 Mort- has quit (Quit: )
17:42 <Avatar> zzzz
23:12 <Ballig> zzz
27:37 * ChanOP removes voice from Avatar
33:09 <Brunius_AFK> zz
33:13 Brunius_AFK is now known as Brunius
44:46 <Brunius> See you guys there
46:54 <Avatar> gg
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33:53 <Avatar> I didn't come on IRC yesterday to save battery power on my phone
34:04 <Avatar> it ended up with over 85% battery left
34:12 <Avatar> even looking up stuff from UM
35:14 <Ballig> ha
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38:32 <Mort-> 1pm
38:48 * Mort- meditates
50:11 <Mort-> Hrrhm
41:44 <Ballig> Hrrhm
42:46 * Mort- smacks ballig on the head with the spell book she is holding
44:07 <Ballig> pretty sure that's ju st a notebook with the names of spells written on it
45:22 <Mort-> No !
45:49 * Mort- points a lightning bolt at ballig and fires it
46:22 <Ballig> that's a pen
46:50 <Mekkis> I think my projector bulb's life diminished a fair bit since I got my magic wand
47:11 <Mort-> No!
47:35 * Mort- takes on aspect of the bear and claws ballig
47:51 <Mekkis> hey
48:00 <Mekkis> at least Mort-'s not disrespecting gnomes
48:00 <Ballig> that is assault and I am pressing charges
48:13 <Mekkis> EXTRADITE HER!
48:25 <Mort-> Well i have a special one for it!
48:35 Mort- is now known as Khazaran
48:39 <Mekkis> (so then we can have a game in-person)
48:49 <Khazaran> @groping gnomes
48:51 <diebot> Khazaran, to molest a gnome!: [1d20=6] 11
48:52 <Khazaran> Lol
49:00 <Khazaran> Probably gnome got away
49:03 <Grolschmir> @charge
49:04 <diebot> Grolschmir, attack: [1d20=2] 15; damage: [3d6=3,4,4] 50
49:07 <Khazaran> Not getting anyone with that
49:22 Khazaran is now known as mort-
49:27 <mort-> Lol
49:42 <mort-> You don't want to see me in person
49:51 <Mekkis> we should still extradite her
49:53 <mort-> I'm awfully shy
51:06 <mort-> And i can't help but want to punt gnomes :(
51:14 <mort-> Hm
51:19 <mort-> No!
51:37 <mort-> Gnomes are meant to be punted!
52:17 * mort- draws a magic circle against gnomes and sits in it studying spellbook more
52:24 <Ballig> brave girl saying that around two people who have gnome characters
53:20 <Mekkis> especially gnome characters that can cast dispel magic
53:25 <mort-> I am in a magic circle against gnomes
53:34 <Ballig> dispel magic
53:37 <mort-> Lol id draw the circle out of
53:42 <mort-> Lance reach yes
53:48 <Ballig> dispel magic
53:49 <mort-> But dispel :(
53:55 <mort-> Can't :(
55:19 <Ballig> know the saddest thing? being killed by gnomes is like being kicked to death by children
56:26 <mort-> It happened last night
56:39 * mort- shrugs indifferently
58:23 <Mekkis> Gnomes don't kill people
58:29 <Mekkis> Large mechanical spiders do
58:47 <Mekkis> oh
58:48 <Mekkis> actually
58:55 <mort-> Yes
58:59 <Mekkis> Khaz was killed by the will of Desna!
58:59 <mort-> We notice
59:32 <mort-> Yeah after the spider hit the *oot out of me
59:32 <Mekkis> what instrument should Itzamna carry?
59:35 <mort-> Not to mention
59:41 <mort-> Flute :d
59:45 <Mekkis> probably a violin
59:55 <mort-> I can't stand violins
59:57 <Ballig> mouth harp
00:02 <Mekkis> double bass
00:07 <mort-> Nah
00:09 <mort-> Flute
00:22 <mort-> Double bass doesn't sound right
00:35 <Mekkis> Timpani
00:47 <mort-> Can't imagine khaz with an instrument
00:57 <mort-> I think mort would use a leaf
01:07 <mort-> Have you ever seen anyone do it before?
01:08 <mort-> :p
01:08 <Mekkis> eucalyptus leaf whistle!
01:20 <mort-> Mort would use that
01:31 <mort-> Khaz. No instrument
01:49 <mort-> Actually i don't know how to use that leaf in real life
02:03 <mort-> I just fake it and i can whistle in tune
02:04 <mort-> Lol
02:16 <mort-> So no one knows I'm not really using a leaf
04:19 <mort-> Nah. Khaz couldn't carry a note
04:34 <mort-> Mort should get a whistle
04:43 <mort-> A leaf whistle
04:51 <Mekkis> Ballig, question: what fame is required to but +1 elven chain?
05:44 <Ballig> you can't magick up specific armour
06:25 <mort-> Wasn't there
06:35 <Ballig> so it would end up b eing a +1 mithral chain, right?
06:36 <mort-> A discussion
06:38 <mort-> About
06:42 <Ballig> +1 mithral chainmail
06:46 <mort-> It?
06:51 <mort-> Saying you can?
07:13 <mort-> I think buck has +1 elven chain
07:35 <Mekkis> Ballig, you can't enchant a *named* *magical* armour
07:45 <Mekkis> elven chain is nonmagical, so you CAN magic it up
08:13 <Ballig> Named magic items—including specific armor and specific weapons
08:16 <Ballig> including specific armor
08:19 <Ballig> it's a "specific armor"
08:28 <Ballig> nevermind, next sentence clears it up
09:15 <Mekkis> the question is, does it fall under the "+1 armour is always available", or the "it costs 6150, so you need to have 23 fame" bit?
10:09 <Ballig> well, the real question is whether it counts as "mundane (completely nonmagical) weapons, armor, equipment, and alchemical gear found in any other source"
11:12 <Ballig> is elven chain different to a regular mithral chainmail?
12:17 <Ballig> it actually costs the same as a +1 mithral chainmail
13:59 <Mekkis> it is different
14:08 <Mekkis> it's even better made than regular mithril chain
14:47 <Ballig> I'm not getting it
14:58 <Ballig> I'm adding it up and an elven chainmail has the same stats as a mithral chainmail
15:09 <Mekkis> the difference is that mithril chainmail requires medium armour proficiency
15:10 <Ballig> what am I missing
15:12 <Mekkis> and elven chain doesn't
15:14 <Ballig> ahhh
15:16 <mort-> Yeah
15:42 <mort-> I wish there was elven plate
15:52 <mort-> It would save me a feat at 7
16:23 <mort-> Of having to take heavy armor proficiency
16:23 <Ballig> Mekkis: I think that you would have to have the fame to buy the original elven chain, because I think you would have to argue a bit to convince anyone that it fits into the mundane armor found in any other source rule
16:35 <Ballig> the +1 wouldn't come into it because you can do that separately
16:41 <Mekkis> ok
16:53 <mort-> Have fun enchanting
16:54 <Ballig> so 18 fame, I think
17:07 <Mekkis> (Itzamna has the fame to buy the elven chain, but not the fame to buy Elven Chain +1 outright)
17:23 <Ballig> yeah
17:30 <Ballig> buy the elven chain and then magick it separately
17:57 <Ballig> how did grolschmir get dragonhide? is that on a chronicle sheet?
18:13 <Mekkis> he had the fame
18:44 <Ballig> someone yesterday told me you can't get access to dragonhide in PFS without permission, but he might have been wrong
18:56 <Mekkis> you can get it if you have the fame
19:01 <Mekkis> it's just not "always available"
19:23 <Ballig> I'm playing uhm
19:36 <Ballig> shadow's last stand part 1, tomorrow morning
19:44 <Mekkis> fun
19:49 <Mekkis> as whom
19:52 <Mekkis> and at what tier?
20:07 <Ballig> looking at the other people, I'll likely have to play my level 3 cleric
20:27 <Mekkis> I played it at 6-7
20:31 <Ballig> people have noted: bard, ranger 2, ninja 2, b arbarian 3, barbarian 3
20:39 <Mekkis> Grolschmir went unconscious twice in that scenario
20:44 <Ballig> ha
20:56 <Mekkis> Ari died
21:08 <Ballig> poor Ari
21:27 <Mekkis> I really should call his replacement something different
21:35 <Ballig> Aritoo
21:37 <Mekkis> probably "Khaaar"
22:57 <mort-> I'm sorry about ari
23:02 <mort-> What happened :(
23:19 <mort-> I'm not sorry about grolshmir though
23:28 <mort-> He is a gnome!
23:55 <Mekkis> I won't disclose
24:10 <Mekkis> there's a high chance that Shadow's Last Stand will be run in here
24:14 <mort-> Np
41:12 <Ballig> Mekkis: we'll be continuing CoTE without canine
41:16 <Ballig> do you have a preferred timeslot?
42:36 * mort- nibbles mekkis
58:36 <Hydrazine> damn i feel like shit.
00:50 <mort-> Hello
00:52 <mort-> Got drunk?
01:01 <mort-> Was thinking of something funny earlier
01:17 * mort- nibbles hydrazine
01:31 <Hydrazine> No. Well, not that drunk atleast
01:44 <mort-> Haha
01:52 <mort-> Question.
01:53 <Hydrazine> But I did eat a turkey leg like a savage. The lady I was with thought it was sexy.
01:58 <mort-> Lol
02:19 <mort-> What would jerus do in a tavern
02:24 <Hydrazine> Asketh thy question.
02:37 <Hydrazine> Eat, drink, and be merry.
02:40 <mort-> Oh
02:47 <mort-> What khaz would do
02:56 <Hydrazine> Though I don't think he'd go overkill unless he felt completely safe.
02:57 <mort-> Is eat. Drink plain water only
03:14 <mort-> Then run off to the nearest library
03:15 <mort-> Lol
03:22 <mort-> Screw tavern
03:48 <mort-> Would you grope girls? :p
05:40 <Hydrazine> me or Jerus?
06:07 <mort-> Jerus
06:13 <mort-> Khaz wouldn't see anything
06:34 <mort-> After his meal he would "disappear"
06:51 <mort-> And reappear at night only
07:10 <mort-> Think your regular book worm
16:25 <Hydrazine> Thought there was a game on tonight?
16:42 <Hydrazine> Not enough for it?
16:48 <Ballig> only mort accepted the invite
17:25 <Hydrazine> I went out today. Wasn't sure if I'd be back in time.
18:22 <mort-> Anyway its only us two
18:26 <Ballig> yeah
18:38 <mort-> Next week sat cousins wedding
18:43 <mort-> Won't be around
22:29 <mort-> We cant appear in cote can we?
22:44 <Ballig> no
22:45 <mort-> Since we were not around at start
23:10 <mort-> No stowing away on the caravan? :p
23:12 <mort-> Sigh
23:25 <Ballig> that is a completely new scenario
23:32 <Ballig> not a way to get in on the middle of a current module
23:36 <Mekkis> Ballig, give me a few days: I'll be able to tell you on Thursday
24:07 <mort-> Its ok
25:32 <Mekkis> !idealscenario gm=10339 player=22876 redm=1
26:55 <Mekkis> Ballig, have you played Frozen Fingers of Midnight?
28:02 <Ballig> yeah, you ran it
28:11 <Mekkis> ah
28:14 <Mekkis> wasn't sure if you were there
30:21 <Mekkis> what about Slave Pits of Absalom?
30:54 <Ballig> nope
32:06 <Ballig> wonder what my level 3 enchanter should buy with his 1400 gold
32:10 <Ballig> already has a pearl of power level 1
33:37 <Mekkis> hmmm
33:48 <Ballig> I'm thinking just throwing it on a bunch of scrolls
33:48 <Mekkis> I'd probably save it to buy a headband
34:11 <Ballig> maybe buy a few scrolls and save the majority
34:20 <Mekkis> what are your banned schools?
34:30 <Ballig> divination and necromancy
34:34 <mort-> I can get a headband now
34:51 <mort-> But I'm not until i get some spare cash
35:31 <Ballig> I could get two new level 2 spells scribed and still save over 1000 gold
35:54 <Mekkis> Ballig, if I were to run Slave Pits this afternoon/evening, would you play?
36:04 <Ballig> not today
36:31 <Ballig> when I'm scribing scrolls off a chronicle sheet, do I have to do it before I play another scenario
36:34 <Ballig> or can I do it at any time
36:45 <Mekkis> just write it on your most recent chronicle sheet
37:44 <Ballig> I can get flaming sphere and spider climb for 40g each
37:58 <mort-> Screw evocation
38:00 <Mekkis> (or, in the case of what I did before arcanacon, write the 40 spells you're scribing on a different piece of paper, and write "Scribing costs, see attached, 5340gp" on your chronicle sheet
38:01 <mort-> Imo
40:43 <Ballig> Mekkis: I mean the whole "you get to scribe scrolls without buying the scroll if the scroll is listed as an item on your chronicle sheet"
40:52 <Ballig> does that have to be done on that sheet, or can you do it at a later time in the same way you can buy items later
47:28 <Mekkis> any time
47:34 <Ballig> cool
48:21 <Mekkis> (if it's scribing something from a fellow wizard, you have to do it at that table)
48:41 <Ballig> yeah
48:56 <Ballig> did that with Avatar's wizard before he died horribly
51:39 <Ballig> might buy glitterdust and invisibility
51:43 * mort- lurks
51:52 <mort-> You should say hi to mort
52:02 <mort-> I don't use invisibility much though
52:09 <mort-> Glitterdust yes
53:34 <mort-> Don't really bother about sneaking around
53:36 <mort-> Its so not me
53:48 <Ballig> well, my wizard has arcane bonded item and can cast a spell from his spellbook that isn't prepared
53:53 <Ballig> having invisibility in his spellbook could save his life
55:44 <Mekkis> and gaseous form
57:23 <mort-> I'm not much into evasion actually
57:27 <mort-> Very little
58:02 <Ballig> sometimes it's necessary
58:02 <mort-> Can you reduce a stat below 0?
58:17 <Ballig> if you have a stat of 0 you are either paralysed or dead
58:36 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/calcific-touch
58:48 <mort-> Yes but there are ways...
58:57 <mort-> To keep dropping the stats
59:00 <mort-> Bit by bit
59:13 <mort-> To a monster
59:21 <Ballig> that only damages it for 1 round
59:26 <mort-> What happens if you int
59:28 <Ballig> so it won't stack
59:33 <mort-> Your mental stars
59:39 <mort-> Stats
59:44 <mort-> Drop to 0
59:47 <Ballig> you are catatonic
00:34 <mort-> Can't take any actions?
00:36 <Ballig> can't seem to find in PFS where it lists all of them
00:46 <Ballig> pretty much for all stats except Constitution, being at 0 makes you helpless
00:49 <Ballig> and unable to do anything
00:52 <Ballig> if it's Constitution, you are dead
00:56 <mort-> i could potentially see what i can do to nonsters
01:08 <Ballig> calcific touch won't do it
01:11 <Ballig> because it only lasts for 1 round at a time
01:27 <Ballig> and some spells (lower level ones) specify that you can't reduce the stat below 1
01:29 <Ballig> but there are spells that do it
01:53 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/f/frostbite
01:58 <mort-> Combinations
02:03 <mort-> Like locks and keys
02:08 <mort-> First you do that
02:34 <Ballig> that's a good spell
03:17 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/r/ray-of-exhaustion
03:22 <Ballig> that's a penalty to dexterity, that's not damage
03:22 <mort-> Then you do this
03:42 <mort-> But those 2 will leave the guy exhausted
03:52 <mort-> I'm sure you can guess who is using them both
04:02 <Ballig> just ray of exhaustion will leave him exhausted
04:04 <Ballig> as long as he doesn't save
04:35 <mort-> He will save
04:59 <mort-> Assume I'm dealing with melee types
05:10 <mort-> My save dc sucks. Tried it
06:13 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/chill-touch
06:27 <mort-> Trying to think of all possible combinations
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07:08 <Ballig> that one is okay but not fantastic
07:12 <Ballig> it gives them two saves
07:32 <Ballig> I'm not sure how it works with your ability to do touch attacks with your weapon though
07:40 <mort-> A lot
07:46 <Ballig> might be worthwhile casting and then for the next level*rounds your attacks do extra damage
08:01 <mort-> Ill just stack frost bite on myself
08:10 <mort-> Then ill hit everyone 2 handed
08:11 <Ballig> just not sure if you're allowed to do it over multiple rounds
08:24 <mort-> The wording says 1 round per level
08:36 <mort-> Free melee touch given on frost bite
08:55 <mort-> Everyone around me gets fatigued
09:02 <Ballig> chill touch doesn't say one round per level
09:06 <mort-> As i swing my blade 2 handed
09:10 <mort-> Chill is later
09:18 <mort-> I intend to frost first
09:49 <mort-> I need wizard spells though
10:05 <Ballig> keep in mind some of your abilities only work with magus spells
10:21 <mort-> Not once i spell blend them
10:30 <mort-> They become magus spells
10:56 <Ballig> yep
11:42 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/t/touch-of-idiocy
11:58 <mort-> This stuff is unreliable as shit though
12:07 <mort-> I rather get someone cast silence on me
12:17 <mort-> Then run to the mage in question
12:36 <mort-> Then i fight like a tank
13:56 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/r/ray-of-enfeeblement
14:41 <mort-> But how does frost bite stack with it
14:53 <mort-> He will be exhausted the moment i touch him
15:07 <Ballig> I am aware of all these spells
15:10 <Ballig> you don't need to paste the links to them :p
15:43 <mort-> Frost bite will give -2
20:30 <Ballig> mort-: you can't make someone fall unconscious using "penalty" spells
20:43 <mort-> Was worth a try
20:45 <Ballig> any spell that says it applies a penalty to an ability score cannot reduce that ability score below 1
20:47 <mort-> You never know
20:56 <Ballig> Some  spells  and  abilities  cause  you  to  take  an  a bility 
20:56 <Ballig> penalty for a limited amount of time. While in effect, these 
20:56 <Ballig> penalties function just like ability damage, but they cannot 
20:56 <Ballig> cause you to fall unconscious or die. In essence, penalties 
20:56 <Ballig> cannot decrease your ability score to less than 1
20:57 <mort-> Yeah but there is other stuff
21:08 <mort-> Ah you can't?
21:25 <Ballig> right
21:33 <Ballig> it has to be ability damage or ability drain to reduce it below 1
21:45 <Mekkis> a penalty can't be removed by restoration
21:51 <Mekkis> damage and drain can
21:57 <Ballig> yeah
22:03 <Ballig> a penalty is generally limited time only anyway
22:07 <Mekkis> generally
22:10 <Ballig> and can likely be dispelled
22:11 <mort-> Is it possible
22:17 <mort-> During that time
22:17 <Mekkis> a permanent penalty can't
22:21 <mort-> To get him down
22:21 <Mekkis> obviously
22:33 <mort-> Just a while
22:52 <mort-> Does frost bite fatigue
22:57 <Ballig> mort-: just tailor your ability penalties to your target
23:03 <Ballig> to disable him without making him unconscious
23:12 <mort-> Stack with ray of enfebleement?
23:20 <Ballig> so a melee combatant you use strength, a ranged combatant you use dexterity, a spellcaster you use int wis or cha
23:28 <mort-> The touch thing
23:34 <Mekkis> (and tailor your saves)
23:37 <mort-> I was wondering
23:56 <mort-> Can you strength touch a spell caster
24:00 <mort-> So he falls over?
24:02 <Ballig> tailoring saves is harder
24:08 <Ballig> generally things that reduce your strength are going to require a fort save
24:18 <mort-> I sure know they don't get to fort save well
24:22 <Mekkis> true
24:30 <mort-> Which means they will eat the full thing
24:30 <Ballig> mort-: you might be able to bring him to a heavy load
24:34 <Ballig> but NPCs tend not to carry a lot
24:42 <Mekkis> so when fighting fighters, don't bother reducing strength, just make him laugh :S
24:51 <mort-> Frost bite + ray?
24:52 <Ballig> yeah
24:55 <Ballig> Samsuhn does hideou slaughter
24:58 <Ballig> er, hideous laughter
25:00 <mort-> I can't
25:01 <Ballig> which hopefully turns into slaughter
25:10 <mort-> I don't have the spell
25:14 <Ballig> DC 19 save, is cast 2 levels higher than he is
25:15 <mort-> I would spray ^^
25:20 <Ballig> so he casts it as a 5th level caster instead of 3rd
25:24 <mort-> Lol
25:30 <mort-> I can't do that
25:47 <Ballig> if you're talking about khaz, you need to focus more on augmenting your melee abilities
25:52 <Ballig> instead of trying to disable the opponent
25:52 <mort-> I know
25:58 <mort-> But i have free spells
26:04 <mort-> Not all of them can buff
26:12 <mort-> I can debuff
26:27 <Ballig> debuff doesn't have to be /disable/
26:46 <mort-> Was wondering if you can carry it to that level
26:51 <Mekkis> enervation?
26:55 <Mekkis> that's always good
26:55 <Ballig> as a magus? it wouldn't be worthwhile
27:01 <mort-> That instead of killing someone
27:06 <Ballig> enervation is a great debuff
27:08 <mort-> You just drop his weakest stat to 0
27:18 <Mekkis> just look at the spells that Ballig said "That doesn't work that way" in a QQ session :)
27:20 <Ballig> it's hard to drop someone's stats to 0 with spells
27:23 <Ballig> at least at lower levels it's hard
28:05 <Ballig> and by the time you're looking at third level spells, you will want to cast your eyes over haste and slow
29:03 <mort-> Evil stuff
29:11 <mort-> Dont rely on me for slow
29:14 <mort-> It won't work
29:16 <Ballig> what level does a magus get third level spells
29:29 <mort-> Fly and haste ^^
29:42 <mort-> A few evocation spells
29:43 <Ballig> yuck, 7th level
29:45 <Ballig> that's why I didn't like magus
29:46 <mort-> I don't need haste
30:02 <mort-> I can carry my own pocket haste with me
30:24 <Ballig> if the magus spell progression as like sorcerer I'd probably have made a magus by now
31:12 <mort-> Lol i have my own pocket haste
31:31 <mort-> Within limits i can run to the scroll shop and do anything i want there
31:50 <mort-> I have a feeling ill give free frostbites around though
32:06 <mort-> No harm. Frees me  to use 2 handed swing too
32:13 <Mekkis> Summon Sex Partner I
32:54 <mort-> Not allowed
34:10 <mort-> If you wanted to watch i could probably throw glitterdust around
34:24 <mort-> Not too effectively but hey! It reveals sneaks!
35:36 <Mekkis> heh
35:45 <Mekkis> you're still feeling the pain from Itzamna
35:46 <Mekkis> :)
36:26 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/ghoul-touch
36:34 <mort-> Well that was sort of ow
36:42 <mort-> With a giant spider
37:05 <mort-> I heard of people using this as well but no spell strike on this
37:28 <mort-> Never mind. In the middle of a melee mess. I do this and everyone yells blue murder
38:10 <Ballig> it's not a magus spell
38:21 <mort-> That can be changed
38:36 <Ballig> oh, you think so do you
38:39 <Ballig> you think so
38:44 <mort-> Yes it can be
38:54 <mort-> If i want it badly enough
39:23 <mort-> There is something called spell blending
39:27 <Ballig> I don't think using an arcana is worth it
39:44 <mort-> I will spell blend at 9
39:44 <mort-> Probably
39:52 <mort-> I don't know what to do with it
39:58 <mort-> Failing that
40:02 <mort-> There is umd
40:09 <Ballig> wand mastery is pretty great
40:17 <Ballig> too bad there's no scroll mastery
40:22 <mort-> Yeah
40:25 <mort-> But seriously
40:35 <mort-> I'm not playing with my wands in the fight
40:45 <mort-> Balaar will do it for me
41:17 <mort-> I've heard that some people...
41:39 <mort-> Use magi as caster disrupters
42:10 <mort-> Throw the magi at the caster and say go fk him over before he fks us up
42:13 <mort-> ><
42:25 <Ballig> why can't a fighter do that
43:12 <mort-> Because he has 20 move speed
43:17 <mort-> And i can get 60
43:21 <mort-> Lol
43:25 <Ballig> a fighter doesn't necessarily have 20 movement speed
43:27 <Ballig> depends on the fighter
43:36 <mort-> Mostly they will
43:37 <Ballig> there are fighters who are archers, like Tristen's new fighter
43:43 <Ballig> why can't he be the spellcast disrupter
43:44 <Ballig> from a distance
43:46 <mort-> I can hit 60 :p
44:01 <mort-> But i won't
44:02 <Ballig> an archer can do it from hundreds of feet away without moving
44:06 <mort-> Yeah
44:24 <mort-> But actually i relalised
44:29 <Ballig> ready an attack to shoot at the spellcaster when he casts, bam disrupt the spell
44:35 <mort-> Low level wizards don't have too good saves
44:36 <mort-> Ya
45:01 <mort-> And a good colour spray fixes some stuff
45:25 <mort-> But free frost bite is nice
45:27 <mort-> :)
45:37 <mort-> If I'm meleeing
45:55 <Mekkis> ready an action to "attempt to stop the caster from casting, should he start casting, either by counterspells, dispel magic, or damage"
46:57 <mort-> Lol
47:04 <mort-> I can counter i guess
47:10 <Ballig> easier if you have access to reach and non-reach at the same time
47:14 <Mekkis> (that's what I use, if I want to stop a spellcaster)
47:16 <Ballig> to prevent him being able to five foot away
47:17 <mort-> If its loaded
47:26 <Mekkis> or the Step Up feat
47:28 <mort-> Jerus will cover reach
47:35 <Ballig> yeah or step up
48:27 <mort-> Na
48:45 <Ballig> mort-: you can't build your characters on the assumption you will always adventure with certain other characters
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48:53 <Ballig> unless you ONLY play them when those other characters are playing
49:33 <Time_Machine> hello nice to meet you
49:37 <Mekkis> greetings
49:51 <Ballig> are you from the future or the past, Time_Machine
49:56 <Time_Machine> D&D on IRC, huh?
50:00 <Ballig> aye
50:01 <Time_Machine> how does it work?
50:15 <Time_Machine> heh, I'm in all places at once
50:16 <Ballig> like D&D anywhere else but you type (or talk on skype) instead of sitting around a table
50:24 <Time_Machine> YOG SOTHOTH KNOWS THE GATE
51:02 <Time_Machine> is there like a dice command on here?
51:08 <Time_Machine> *d6
51:26 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+15
51:27 <diebot> Ballig, 1d20+15: [1d20=6] 21
51:27 <mort-> Chances i will
51:37 <mort-> Chances  are ill also carry reach
51:49 <mort-> Just in case
51:51 <Ballig> mort-: chances are isn't good enough
51:51 <Time_Machine> ah, nice
51:58 <mort-> I am packrat
51:59 <Time_Machine> how often do you play
52:05 <Ballig> once or twice a week
52:07 <Ballig> usually
52:11 <mort-> I am also eating lunch
52:35 <Time_Machine> 12 PM in Austrailia?
52:43 <Mekkis> Sun Mar 11 14:52:43 EST 2012
52:53 <Ballig> almost 4pm in the timezone used here
52:58 <Ballig> Mekkis is almost 3pm
53:01 <Ballig> mort- isn't in Australia
54:38 <mort-> Yeah
54:52 <Time_Machine> 12 AM here in Massachusetts
55:26 <Ballig> are you in bahstan
56:04 <Time_Machine> nah, Nantucket
56:11 <Ballig> are you rich
56:22 <Time_Machine> but I will be in Boston beginning next month
56:24 <Time_Machine> nope
56:38 <Ballig> I thought nantucket was all rich people
57:10 <Time_Machine> and the ppl that serve them
58:11 <Time_Machine> I work at the airport
58:17 <Ballig> oh
00:04 <Time_Machine> it's no place for young ppl. which is why I'm leaving
00:18 <Ballig> why isn't it a place for young people
01:34 <Time_Machine> nothing to do outside of summer
01:40 <Time_Machine> no bowling
01:44 <mort-> Lol
01:48 <Time_Machine> no real movie theater
01:51 <Ballig> you can't bowl by yourself?
01:58 <mort-> There is always reading the spell book
01:58 <Time_Machine> no red light district
02:01 <Ballig> and what young person goes to the movie theatre anymore
02:09 <mort-> I keep myself entertained fine
02:19 <Ballig> if you want a red light district, move to Australia where brothels are legal
02:22 <Time_Machine> vid store, or music store
02:28 <Ballig> people still use those stores?
02:31 <Ballig> what happened to the internet
02:34 <Ballig> do you not have internet in nantucket
03:18 <mort-> Lol
03:30 <Time_Machine> we got internet
04:45 <Time_Machine> but too many old people
04:56 <mort-> Does frost bite duration end once you use it?
05:27 <mort-> One time per level
05:57 <mort-> So id like to spread it through 5 combat rounds
06:17 <Ballig> seems that way
06:22 <Ballig> you'd have to be level 5
06:55 <mort-> Sure!
07:11 <Mekkis> yeah
07:17 <Mekkis> get to level 5 already, mort-!
07:51 <mort-> Game more :d
07:58 <mort-> I've attended every game here
08:29 <Ballig> no you haven't
08:44 <mort-> Well as much as i could have
08:51 <Ballig> unless you meant "every game I've attended was here"
09:05 <Mekkis> mort-, how many XP off 5th?
09:13 <mort-> Uqm
09:16 <Ballig> which character, she has like 20
09:30 <mort-> Shaddap!
09:31 <Mekkis> mort-, 
09:49 * mort- grows into a bear and claws ballig
10:05 <Time_Machine> is it possible to create a character sheet online to use for this?
10:07 <Ballig> don't think so mort
10:28 <Mekkis> Time_Machine, yes
10:34 <mort-> 2
10:36 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler
10:38 <mort-> More
10:44 <mort-> I am a bear!
10:57 * mort- rawrs at ballig
11:47 <mort-> 2 more xp till 5 mek
15:10 <Mekkis> ok
15:16 <Mekkis> so if that's done next week
15:38 <Mekkis> we should bully Brunius into running a 5-9 on the 24th :)
17:22 <mort-> I can't game next week
17:28 <Mekkis> ok
17:30 <mort-> Mek its my cousins wedding!
17:37 <Mekkis> then what about on the 24th-25th
17:40 <mort-> You got to be kidding
17:43 <mort-> Sure!
17:50 <Mekkis> and then bully Brunius into running a 5-9 on the 1st
18:51 <mort-> Lol
18:56 <mort-> Urm
19:14 <mort-> I'm underleveled
19:19 <Mekkis> ?
19:23 <mort-> Won't the monsters eat me?
19:27 <mort-> I'm level 5!
19:30 <Mekkis> so?
19:43 <mort-> I'm squishy?
19:53 <Mekkis> so?
19:53 <mort-> I probably won't be able to do stuff :(
20:47 <mort-> Well except make knowledge checks :p
20:58 <mort-> Which myz would do better probably
21:26 <mort-> My hideous laughter wouldn't make a monster laugh :(
21:42 * mort- finds a hole to hide in
22:24 <Mekkis> Mytiazair will lend you a rod
24:13 * mort- is a scardey mort
24:35 <mort-> i think what will happen is everyone turns a bright glittery gold colour
24:48 <mort-> Or ends up in pits ^^
26:03 <Mekkis> the former's a good thing
26:10 <Mekkis> the latter.... not so much
27:54 <mort-> Lol
28:09 <mort-> I can do it too!
28:16 * mort- rawrs
28:21 <mort-> Lol
28:41 <Mekkis> (then again, Mytiazair refuses to learn Create Pit)
28:56 <mort-> Ok
29:12 <mort-> I think I'm set for most level 2 stuffs
29:15 <mort-> Generally
29:24 <mort-> Mort isn't an evoker
29:39 <mort-> and she avoids close combat like urm. A lemur!
30:32 <Mekkis> or perhaps - if it's set in Absalom or Almus (or somewhere else near a lodge) - Mytiazair will give mort- an introduction to the Dark Side
30:43 <mort-> No!
30:48 <mort-> i will resist
30:59 <mort-> What's dark about wizards anyway
31:16 <Mekkis> you wouldn't understand
31:20 <Mekkis> unless you learnt it first hand
32:18 * mort- ponders over it and doesn't understand
32:38 <mort-> I appreciate if you don't try to corrupt mort :d
32:42 <Mekkis> you know whenever someone links to one of those threads like http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz4ty9?Hurt-Me-Plenty#1 in here?
32:42 <mort-> She is sweet
32:59 <Mekkis> generally it's Avatar saying my characters are broken...
33:49 <Mekkis> and my response is "Have you ever played a session where you thought PFS was too easy?"
34:43 <mort-> Actually i think oskar me jerus and zirul
34:56 <mort-> would probably make quite some stuff seem easy
35:05 <Mekkis> but has it ever happened?
35:08 <Mekkis> how do you KNOW?
35:09 <mort-> The only problem is we are never on at the same time
35:29 <mort-> Me oskar and jerus pwn mobs
35:37 <Mekkis> Have you ever PLAYED as session where you thought PFS was too easy?
35:44 <mort-> The only problem is none of us can heal
35:57 <mort-> Not yet but i haven't met grolsh
36:05 <mort-> Though soi 2 wasn't hard
36:20 <Mekkis> put it this way: I've played one session like that 
36:29 <Mekkis> it was when Mytiazair went to the dark side.
37:54 <mort-> Oh dear!
38:10 <mort-> But going to the dark hide
38:12 <mort-> Side
38:29 <mort-> A little!
38:41 <mort-> Go get ballig to redeem you
39:11 <mort-> Remind me to make my parchment into ear muffs
39:14 <Mekkis> I don't need Ballig to
39:30 <mort-> When his cleric starts sermonizing ^^
39:35 <Mekkis> I know how to redeem myself
39:41 <mort-> And i mean it literally
39:47 <mort-> I don't want redemption
40:08 <Mekkis> teach other people what it is, and why not to do it
40:10 <mort-> You can do that right?
40:42 <mort-> I mean wear improvised ear muffs :d
42:00 <mort-> Lovely. No more preachers
42:09 <mort-> Purrfect!
54:18 <Mekkis> mort-, you should start counter-preaching
54:41 <Mekkis> tell everyone how Nethys saved a camp full of Pathfinders
54:43 <mort-> I don't care enough about dieties to do it
54:47 <mort-> Oh yes
54:49 <mort-> He did
54:58 <mort-> He made me his avatar
55:05 <mort-> In our time of need
55:20 <Mekkis> why aren't you preaching about THAT?
55:25 <mort-> Lol
55:26 <Mekkis> (ingame, of course)
55:26 <mort-> True
55:28 <mort-> I forget
56:15 <mort-> Well really mort used to pay lip service to gods
56:29 <mort-> Khaz urm...forget about him
26:43 <Mekkis> ah
26:52 <Mekkis> but does she still only pay lip service?
33:02 <mort-> Good question
34:05 <mort-> The problem is the player in question isn't exactly familiar with nethys tenets
34:19 <mort-> He is more like you do as you will sort of god
34:22 <Ballig> won't take much to read up
34:25 <mort-> From what I've read up
34:52 <mort-> He has two faces
35:53 <Mekkis> hmmm
36:22 <Mekkis> one interesting thing about Nethys is that your rank in the church is directly tied to your magical ability
36:51 <Mekkis> Priests associated with Nethys’s temples
36:51 <Mekkis> are used to magical folk being in charge and often make
36:51 <Mekkis> the mistake of barking orders in more status-equal groups
36:51 <Mekkis> such as adventuring parties.
37:19 <Mekkis> hmmm
37:25 <Mekkis> "Why does Mort love magic?"
37:47 <mort-> Its magic duh!
38:16 <mort-> I'm not a priest I'm just a wizard
38:25 <mort-> And magic has cool things!
38:31 <mort-> Like socks!
38:48 <mort-> And I'm just a minor wizard!
39:28 <Mekkis> wizards of Nethys can be priests
39:37 <Mekkis> after such a revelation, that's a logical step
40:08 <mort-> I have about one webpage on it
40:21 <mort-> Talk what theological crap? :d
40:24 <mort-> Player i mean
41:03 <mort-> Besides all of us serve our gods in different ways
41:24 <mort-> We are all just little pieces in the puzzle. 
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42:03 <mort-> Hello :d
42:07 <mort-> how it went!
42:18 <Avatar-> have I been offline all day
42:24 <mort-> Yes
42:38 <Avatar-> it's still going
42:57 <Avatar-> we should finish only just overtime
42:58 <mort-> I can't  really hold a theological discussion on one webpage worth of pathfinder wikia
43:00 <mort->  Think
43:02 <mort-> Ah
43:10 <mort-> Have a good brawl
43:59 <mort-> Besides temple politics are merry
44:01 <mort-> Messy
45:01 <mort-> Rank within the clergy is determined by magical knowledge and power
45:25 <mort-> With the former in the more beign temples
45:51 <mort-> And the latter in the more mavolent temples
46:23 <mort-> Morts sort of innocent and doesn't like temple politics
46:37 <mort-> She likes stocking up knowledge like a packrat though
55:24 <Mekkis> I need to find a deity for Xanian to worship
56:11 <Mekkis> any suggestion?
56:28 <Mekkis> he's a paladin, who once fought alongside humans in an army
56:37 <Mekkis> (about fifty years ago
57:42 <Hydrazine> hi.
58:02 <Mekkis> hi
58:07 <Mekkis> suggestions?
58:39 <mort-> Lol
58:40 <Hydrazine> i'm actually pretty sparse on my religion knowledge so far.
58:48 <mort-> Don't ask me!
59:03 <mort-> Most of my characters are atheists!
59:19 <Mekkis> hmmm
59:41 <mort-> Maybe that's why i haven't really done much divine classes
59:56 <mort-> Get a god of war or something
00:04 <Mekkis> wow
00:15 <Mekkis> a hunter requires less prestige than a porter
00:20 <mort-> Which region is xainian from
00:30 <mort-> That may play a factor too
00:34 <Mekkis> Originally
00:55 <mort-> If you go to Rome you worship as Rome does
01:06 <Mekkis> his mother was from Kyonin
01:13 <Hydrazine> Thats silly, Mort.
01:24 <mort-> Why not?
01:33 <Hydrazine> Romans used to have their own pantheon until some Emperor decided that Rome would be christian.
01:49 <mort-> he asked for ideas. Having the same religion as the place you grew up in
01:57 <Hydrazine> Constantine I think/
02:03 <mort-> Is prefectly normal imo
02:09 <Hydrazine> True.
02:13 <Mekkis> his father from Andoran
02:20 <Mekkis> they were fighting around Galt
02:31 <mort-> I prefer to take his mothers side
02:40 <mort-> It sounds more exotic
03:02 <Mekkis> so a kingdom, full of humans
03:14 <Mekkis> ruled by a half-elf
03:19 <mort-> Kyionin sounds eastern
03:21 <Mekkis> following an elvish deity?
03:49 <mort-> There's nothing wrong worshiping whoever you want
04:03 <mort-> Include the tree :)
04:11 <Mekkis> ah
04:17 <Mekkis> but Xanian's the king
04:18 <mort-> Which i believe some druids do
04:38 <mort-> Why did he decide to go adventurhng then
05:01 <mort-> And who did he leave the crown to
05:15 <mort-> Was that before he became paladin?
05:16 <Mekkis> he's an adventurer
05:28 <Mekkis> who's carving out a kingdom in the northern river kindoms
05:29 <mort-> As a paladin duty comes before all
05:44 <mort-> If you have the duty to be king
05:49 <Mekkis> yes
05:59 <Mekkis> and they duty includes providing security for his followes
06:00 <Hydrazine> So hes more like a war king then, forging his own land anew?
06:02 <Mekkis> followers
06:03 <mort-> You shouldn't be running all over golraion!
06:06 <Mekkis> he isn't
06:16 <Mekkis> he's expanding his kingdom southwards
06:27 <Hydrazine> Why?
06:34 <mort-> And how are you justifyingthe expansion?
06:47 <mort-> Putting people who don't like you to the sword?
06:52 <Mekkis> the river kingdoms are chaotic, ruled by "might is right"
06:58 <mort-> Claiming they are savanges?
07:18 <mort-> Well technically mort came from there
07:25 <Mekkis> the citizens are living lives full of violence
07:27 <mort-> One of those forests that caught my eye
07:31 <Mekkis> away from civilisation
07:50 <mort-> Anyway if you king
07:58 <mort-> Your throne doesn't rule itself
08:10 <mort-> How do you become a pathfinder
08:11 <Mekkis> Xanian wants a "Belt of Civilisation" spanning from Restov to Iadara
08:16 <Mekkis> he's not a Pathfinder
08:21 <mort-> Ah ok
08:41 <Mekkis> and after that, he wants to bring law, order and security to Galt
08:46 <mort-> But i think how your going to get your belt of civilization
08:55 <Mekkis> and from there down to Taldor
08:56 <mort-> More like belt of blood
09:04 <mort-> Khaz will be there
09:13 <mort-> Don't step on his border
09:18 <mort-> Borders
09:26 <Mekkis> I'd invite you to join the campaign, if you were closer to Brisbane
09:34 <Mekkis> where's Khaz from?
09:35 <Mekkis> Galt?
09:36 <Mekkis> wow
09:40 <mort-> Qadira is close
09:44 <mort-> To taldor
09:51 <Mekkis> to the south of Taldor
09:55 <mort-> He is a spice merchants son
09:56 <mort-> Yes
10:06 <Mekkis> Restov is to the north
10:09 <mort-> Don't over do it or ill zap your arse
10:14 <Mekkis> don't worry about that
10:19 <mort-> But his brother is better at business anyway
10:33 <mort-> So he went off adventuring to see the world
10:35 <Mekkis> by the time he's invaded Taldor, he'll be able to easily wipe the floor of Khaz
10:42 <mort-> Probably
10:51 <mort-> Wherever khaz would be
11:00 <mort-> If he isn't dead
11:00 <Mekkis> hmmm
11:09 <Mekkis> should the kingdom allow Pathfinders?
11:10 <mort-> But it his homeland
11:18 <mort-> So khaz would fight
11:30 <Mekkis> hmmm
11:31 <mort-> Btw i don't think you qualify as pally
11:37 <Mekkis> what should the kingdom be called?
11:38 <Mekkis> why not?
11:49 <Ballig> Kingdom of the Improbable
11:52 <mort-> There is no greater glory then dying in battle
12:17 <Mekkis> and...?
12:18 <mort-> Taldor and qadira are constantly at war
12:24 <Mekkis> so?
12:32 <mort-> Border shifts a lot
12:41 <Mekkis> then they won't see me coming from the North
13:09 <mort-> And we have the best horses in golarion
13:27 <Mekkis> nope
13:30 <Mekkis> that's Lastwall
13:35 * mort- glares at mek for invading his hometown
13:42 <Mekkis> Ballig, is bob from Lastwall?
13:43 <mort-> Well possibly
14:28 <mort-> Its in horses beastiary
14:36 <mort-> The best come from qadira
14:46 <Mekkis> bullshit
14:50 <Mekkis> the best horses maybe
14:57 <Mekkis> but the best horsemen come from Lastwall
15:13 <Ballig> Bob is taldan
15:18 <mort-> Oh dear
15:22 <Mekkis> but where is he from?
15:28 <Ballig> taldor
15:29 <mort-> You seem to have stepped on toes
15:32 <Mekkis> ah
15:32 <mort-> Lol
15:35 <mort-> Lets charge him
15:35 <Mekkis> not from Lastwall
15:38 <Mekkis> what a pity
15:41 <Ballig> nope
16:06 <mort-> I think you just made a belt of blood
16:27 * mort- fingers colour spray. Now if only it would work...
16:53 <Mekkis> nope
17:02 <Mekkis> the Taldans will see the errors in their ways
17:18 <mort-> Your a dictator
17:21 <Mekkis> After all, they didn't care when Cheliax carved a hole out of their empire
17:36 <Mekkis> They didn't care when Andoran also carved out a chunk
17:37 <mort-> Honestly though. What you could do to them
17:44 <mort-> You could do to us as well
17:56 <Mekkis> yeah
17:58 <mort-> We don't care for a super power rising there
17:59 <Mekkis> but I wouldn't
18:01 <mort-> Pro
18:03 <mort-> So
18:06 <Mekkis> unless you were morally corrupt
18:09 * mort- gets itchy
18:21 <mort-> My morality is dubious
18:23 <mort-> At this point of time
18:36 <mort-> Not sure if any good priest would talk to me
18:44 <mort-> After what i have done
18:47 <Hydrazine> except the ones trying to convert you?
18:51 <mort-> Not to mention his gift in my pack
18:57 <Hydrazine> teach you the errors of your ways?
19:03 <mort-> Well i have a scimitaq
19:12 <mort-> And colour spray
19:24 <mort-> And some do not wish to be redeemed
19:26 <mort-> Thank you
20:28 <mort-> Besides you'll love his gift
20:37 <mort-> I tell you the dark side has cookies!
21:28 * mort- wonders if he could grapple the annoyiwg priest
21:37 <mort-> Then tie him up in knots
21:52 <mort-> Probably not I'm not a specialist
22:03 <Hydrazine> aoo in the face first.
23:07 <mort-> Won't kill me
23:16 <mort-> Probably ill say its none of your business
23:35 <mort-> Don't worry. His gifts are good!
23:41 <mort-> Chocolate chip cookies!
24:09 <mort-> Nah i really shouldn't be grappling
24:16 <mort-> Except for gnomes
24:42 <mort-> Gnomes on the other hand deserve to be grappled
25:16 <Mekkis> why?
25:27 <Mekkis> tell me an atrocity that was committed by a gnome
26:21 <Hydrazine> the subjugation of the French!
26:29 <mort-> Lol
26:36 <mort-> Napoleon?
26:56 <Hydrazine> Thats Mr. Bonaparte to you.
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27:12 <Mekkis> he wasn't a gnome
27:12 <mort-> How about the last time that gnome alchemist blew the building and himself up?
27:19 <mort-> ^^
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27:51 <Mekkis> I think you'll find that was a goblin
29:50 <mort-> There wasn't enough to identify the parts after anyway...but everyone said the guy running the lab was gnome!
30:08 <mort-> So gnomes need grappling!
30:19 <mort-> Before they blow the world up!
31:49 <Hydrazine> in Dragonstar, it was gnomes that brought on the space age.
32:02 <mort-> Btw hydrazine look at this ^^
32:05 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/f/frostbite
32:19 <mort-> Free fatigue anyone?
32:28 <mort-> Once per round
32:37 <mort-> And as many rounds as i have levels
33:01 <Hydrazine> free?
33:04 <Hydrazine> level 1 spell?
33:12 <mort-> Well yes but i can use it
33:20 <mort-> As many rounds
33:26 <mort-> as i have levels
33:48 <mort-> Well say in the future where we can't one shot stuff
34:01 <mort-> Fatigued people don't charge anyway
34:34 <mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/ghoul-touch
34:52 <mort-> I think you would kill me if i used this stuff near you though
35:11 <Hydrazine> more useful on barbarians i think.
35:24 <mort-> Not that i can without a lot of stuff
35:29 <mort-> That?
35:49 <mort-> Ill sicken everyone in the vicinity
36:41 <mort-> Its not a magus thing so ill need to spell blend it
36:49 <mort-> Which means i probably wouldn't bother
37:02 <mort-> But the frostbite thing
40:12 <mort-> When you attack someone with your full attacks its full round?
44:11 <Mekkis> yeah
46:15 <mort-> So if he is fatigued he makes only one attack?
46:21 <mort-> How interesting
46:46 <mort-> Low levels no diffence though
47:12 <Mekkis> <?fatigued
47:13 <diebot> A fatigued character can neither run nor charge and takes a 2 penalty to Strength and Dexterity. Doing anything that would normally cause fatigue causes the fatigued character to become exhausted. After 8 hours of complete rest, fatigued characters are no longer fatigued.
49:27 <mort-> Did i mix it up with something else,g
49:34 <mort-> Hm might be shaken
52:45 <mort-> Staggered ya i can give that to
52:45 <mort-> Too
54:37 <Mekkis> I'm thinking worshipping Aspu would be good
58:54 <mort-> I don't think he deserves to be called a paladin
59:29 <mort-> What  pallishness is there in converting the whole region by the sword
01:25 <Mekkis> I never said anything about converting
03:10 <mort-> Your going to kill all those people to expand your empire?
03:25 * mort- looks at mek accusingly
03:36 <Mekkis> no
03:48 <Mekkis> I'll just give them leadership, security, and law
04:04 <Mekkis> they'll be allowed to worship whoever they choose
04:42 <Mekkis> hell, they can worship Zon-Kuthon for all I care
05:16 <mort-> What laws have you?
05:32 <mort-> Why should they follow you?
05:37 <Mekkis> Haven't really decided on many
05:51 <Mekkis> hell, at the moment, the kingdom's tax free
05:58 <mort-> They have their own tribal cheiftain running their own affairs
05:58 <Mekkis> and it'll probably stay that way
06:21 <mort-> Right and who pays all the administators?
06:30 <Mekkis> I do
06:31 <mort-> Money needs to come from somewhere
06:44 <mort-> Sure . Where are you getting it
06:57 <mort-> Anyway what's stopping the tribe next door
07:03 <mort-> Saying i like my chief
07:10 <mort-> I don't like your laws
07:15 <mort-> I follow chief only
08:08 <Mekkis> I'll give you a good reason to integrate
08:18 <Mekkis> we have a very permissive society
08:27 <Mekkis> about half the people are kobolds
08:34 <mort-> And we have been doing it for the last 1000 years
08:43 <mort-> Why should we follow it your way
08:55 <mort-> We also happen not to cook our food
08:59 <Mekkis> because if you don't, you
09:19 <Mekkis> will be suffering from the same diseases you suffered from 1000 years ago, in 1000 years time
22:12 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Fri 7pm (Ballig, new game) / Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
22:12 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Mar  8 18:23:36 2012
25:07 <Ballig> who's we
29:16 <Mekkis>  mort's describing an evil tribe
30:02 <mort-> Lol
30:09 <Ballig> do they exist anywhere outside her imagination
30:20 <Mekkis> probably
30:21 <mort-> I dunno
30:28 <Mekkis> the process is simple
30:34 <mort-> Golarion is pretty big
30:42 <Mekkis> build a city in each surrounding hex
30:46 <mort-> And some tribes in Africa worked that way
30:51 <mort-> Ok
30:51 <Mekkis> and show them how much better life is in there
30:57 <mort-> Its my land!
31:14 <mort-> You city dwellers are Making too much noise!
31:27 <Mekkis> "You're welcome to join us."
31:44 <mort-> Your polluting the river with all your filth and scaring all the game away!
31:58 <Mekkis> you're bullshitting.
32:25 <mort-> You should have seen native Americans
32:29 <mort-> Over white settlements
32:44 <mort-> By digging holes in the ground
32:55 <mort-> You are angering mother earth
33:15 <mort-> And your going to be using trees!
33:20 <Ballig> you should have seen Christians over small, pagan european villages
33:21 <mort-> To build those settlements
33:26 <mort-> Oh yes
33:46 <mort-> Trying to convince people to Join you never works out
33:49 <mort-> Imo
33:56 <mort-> We all have our own way of life
33:58 <Ballig> except it did with the christians
34:01 <Ballig> and those pagan european villages
34:10 <Ballig> are there any pagan european villages left?
34:18 <mort-> Probably not
34:26 <Ballig> do people celebrate the winter solstice, or do they celebrate christmas?
34:31 <mort-> So I'm wondering how mek is going to legitimately
34:33 <Ballig> do they celebrate the coming of spring, or do they celebrate easter?
34:42 <mort-> Establish his kingdom
34:51 <Mekkis> mort-, don't worry about that
34:59 <Mekkis> it's already been legitimately established
35:01 <mort-> Not to mention he might be approaching my home town
35:06 * mort- growls
35:14 <Ballig> you realise Golarion isn't real, right
35:16 <mort-> Itd better not expand any further!
35:19 <mort-> Yeah
35:29 <Mekkis> the Swordlords of Brevoy legitimised it
35:36 <mort-> But on a more serious note
35:42 <mort-> Whatever that happens there
35:50 <mort-> Will not affect gameplay here?
36:06 <Mekkis> that I can almost guarantee
36:25 <mort-> But on an rp side khaz would get very angry if anyone tried to invade or convert his home town
36:44 <mort-> Morts a wandering elf
36:47 <mort-> Its ok for her
37:00 <mort-> She sets up camp wherever she finds it nice
38:00 <mort-> And qadira is a twitchy kind of nation
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39:27 <mort-> Hi jagged
45:05 <Mekkis> Ballig, when applying for a job with the APS, how much work history should I put
45:19 <Mekkis> also: my name of qualification doesn't fit in the field :S
45:42 <mort-> :(
46:07 <mort-> I guess id put last 5 relavent jobs or so
46:36 <Mekkis> Bachelor of Engineering In Microelectronic Engineering With Honours Class II Division A / Bachelor of Information Technology
47:04 <Ballig> Mekkis: all relevant work history
47:27 <Mekkis> so I shouldn't bother with "casual office staff, 2003-2008"
47:55 <Ballig> only if you are otherwise limited in work experience
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00:22 <Mekkis> would it be a disadvantage to list it along with other "real" jobs?
00:38 <Ballig> potentially, if your real jobs can stand up by themselves
01:46 <Mekkis> how bad is a gap in a resume?
02:03 <Ballig> depends on the reason and whether that's readily apparent by the resume itself
02:09 <Ballig> for example, if you were clearly studying it wouldnt be an issue
02:16 <Mekkis> (really, that was just stuff I was doing during highschool and uni)
07:11 <Ballig> for graduate programs they care more about the degree and the honours
07:20 <Ballig> that you've worked at all is a bonus
16:06 <MekkisScreen> ah
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40:03 <Tashes> oh hey, so ballig i slept through your game
40:05 <Tashes> myb ad
40:10 <Tashes> also good morning
41:32 <Ballig> it's cool, only mort had accepted
41:56 <Tashes> oh good
49:28 <mort-> I feel so left out
49:50 <mort-> I'm currently reading funny magus tails in the forums
50:28 <mort-> Some of the stuff they did during play test was questionable in regards to combat tactics
50:49 <mort-> Again so was that decision of mine to charge up a bridge^^
50:55 <Avatar> good weekend
50:57 <tristen> ok well i've spammed enough errors for a lifetime i reckon
51:03 <tristen> arrows
51:10 <Avatar> haha
51:26 <tristen> i spent the weekend adding up damage
52:04 <Avatar> man play a spellcaster and watch what happens
52:21 <mort-> Haha!
52:22 <tristen> yes the sweet sound of 12d6
52:26 <mort-> Glad you guys had fun
52:34 <mort-> 12d6?
52:40 <tristen> coupla times!
52:41 <mort-> Lol what did you do
52:46 <tristen> took some damage
52:53 <tristen> got healed
52:57 <tristen> spammed some arrows
53:01 <mort-> I'm reading funny magus tails
53:02 <mort-> Yeah
53:22 <mort-> Nothing surprising
53:22 <tristen> i can't wait for the con now
53:35 <mort-> But i take it nothing too serious?
53:40 <mort-> No one got dropped?
53:49 <tristen> not once
53:49 <mort-> When's the con
53:56 <tristen> easter weekend i believe
53:59 <mort-> You guys pwn
54:13 <mort-> Did any other table get trouble?
54:13 <Avatar> I think I got to half health once
54:21 <mort-> That's all?
54:22 <Avatar> actually no
54:25 <Avatar> not even once
54:28 * mort- shakes head
54:31 <tristen> i got down to 30 or so once
54:39 <mort-> Casters get it easy
54:42 <Avatar> there were 8 charges left on the infernal healing wand
54:43 <mort-> Bru?
54:54 <mort-> You joker7
54:56 <mort-> S
55:02 <Avatar> infernal healing is high class
55:05 <mort-> Did the gm comment about it?
55:06 <mort-> Lol
55:10 <Avatar> it's like a maximised heal with every spend
55:14 <Avatar> and it's 10, not 8
55:16 <mort-> Exactly
55:25 <mort-> Fabulous stuff
55:47 <mort-> Right till someone comes after you with a silver weapon
55:52 <Avatar> it wasn't a great example of not needing a CLW wand, because sometimes you do need mid-combat heals
55:58 <mort-> It doesn't fix that :(
56:07 <Avatar> but if you can hold off for out of combat, infernal healing for the win
56:10 <mort-> I can umd stuff soon
56:13 <Avatar> convince the paladin that it's just a heal wand
56:19 <mort-> What ?
56:21 <mort-> You?
56:34 <Avatar> I had to bluff brunius
56:34 <mort-> Sneaky bastards?!
56:40 <Avatar> it was for his own good
56:44 <mort-> That pally
57:03 <mort-> And they are supposed to be perceptive
57:14 <mort-> And can use detect evil at will
57:36 <mort-> Again snickers could say white eggs are black
57:42 <mort-> And everyone would believe her
57:56 <mort-> But could i see what you said to the pally? :p
58:11 <mort-> Oskar shouldn't have been a problem though
58:44 <Hydrazine> rofl
58:55 <Avatar> that's what we said
58:59 <Avatar> oh it's just a cure wand
59:14 <mort-> And he believed it
59:24 <Avatar> yeah my bluff beat his sense motive
59:42 * mort- facepalms at stoopid pallies
00:35 <Avatar> he wasn't stupid
00:45 <mort-> There is something to be said when youve been playing with corrupted witches and the ilk
00:48 <Avatar> I just happened to be a great liar
01:02 <Avatar> Snickers isn't corrupt
01:02 <mort-> I would laugh my stomach out
01:07 <mort-> If i were there
01:22 <Avatar> Snickers isn't evil, just misunderstood
01:26 <mort-> Sure you just bargained with the devil for heals
01:39 <mort-> No. Not corrupt :d
01:57 <mort-> Or maybe like your spells. You didn't know where it came from did you?
04:34 <Hydrazine> So you're making a cleric now mort?
04:38 <Hydrazine> or a ranger?
05:34 <mort-> I already went ranger
05:45 <mort-> I'm not creating anything for a while
05:50 <Avatar> I felt that spaceshot's oracle was better than a cleric
06:10 <Hydrazine> I said a while ago that I think a life oracle beats a cleric for pure healing power.
06:10 <tristen> his oracle was freaking awesome
06:13 <mort-> Actually now I'm reading funny magus threads
06:25 <Hydrazine> think I told Tris too.
06:30 <mort-> The only problem is the low ac
06:43 <mort-> But apparently there wasn't a problem with it
06:50 <mort-> Anyway
07:15 <mort-> For now. If anyone is doing the silence thing
07:20 <Avatar> not even for just healing
07:28 <mort-> Damage?
07:39 <Avatar> overall
07:43 <mort-> Lol
07:49 <Avatar> I didn't have numbers
07:57 <mort-> He can cast in silent areas right?
08:06 <mort-> Since he is deaf to begin with
08:18 <mort-> And with chalkboard!
09:11 <mort-> Yeah the best way to deliver silence
09:21 <mort-> Is to get someone to be the vessel
09:30 <mort-> Then carry it over.
09:31 <mort-> Also
09:53 <mort-> Trist i wanted to talk to you about small oskar
09:58 <mort-> Tristen
11:02 <Hydrazine> hm. shield slamming things prone sounds kinda fun.
11:58 <mort-> No shields on 2 handed weapons
12:24 <mort-> Ive heard some parties throw their magus at enemy spell caster7
12:37 <mort-> Saying fk him up before he fks us up
12:52 <Hydrazine> but thats what Hoku's for!
12:58 <mort-> At 3 i even have a spell that will drop me next to them
13:12 <Hydrazine> oh?
13:14 <mort-> Yeah assuming it isn't jerus in game
13:18 <mort-> Yeah
13:22 <mort-> Force hook charge
13:26 <Hydrazine> jerus just hits things.
13:32 <mort-> But i don't know how may aoos
13:36 <mort-> Ill take getting there
13:38 <mort-> Lol
13:51 <mort-> But yes i can use that spell
13:53 <Hydrazine> depends on good positioning.
13:55 <mort-> Be next to him
14:15 <mort-> And unleash my full attacks on him
14:25 <mort-> Obviously since he has minions
14:39 <mort-> I doubt my life expectancy would be too good
14:43 <mort-> If i tried that
14:46 <Hydrazine> thats what teamwork is for
14:51 <mort-> Haha
15:10 <mort-> You make me have a warm fuzzy feeling
15:28 <mort-> But anyway that was what i wanted to talk to tris about
15:36 <mort-> He is like the only one of us
15:41 <mort-> Who can function at range
16:02 <mort-> So. Ready action to shoot the guy behind as soon as he starts wiggling fingers
16:26 <mort-> Rather then have me to pop myself next to that guy
16:59 <mort-> If ghoul touch was magus it has potential
17:18 <mort-> Everyone knows that casters have bad fort saves
17:36 <mort-> So. All i need is one touch and he is stuck on the ground
17:56 <Ballig> everyone knows that anyone can roll high
18:39 <mort-> True
19:03 <mort-> But was worth a try rather then have him throw all kinds of shit at us
24:02 <Hydrazine> but Oskar already understands his job.
24:08 <Hydrazine> He whooped up on some casters before.
24:44 <mort-> No.
24:56 <mort-> Instead of shoot on sight
25:03 <mort-> Wait till they wiggle fingers
25:08 <mort-> Then double shot them
25:34 <mort-> If he hits it will ruin anyone's day
26:04 <mort-> Inculding mine if i were standing there casting
29:26 <Hydrazine> wait till you see the whites of their eyes!
31:44 <Ballig> can only ready a standard action
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32:40 <mort-> Ah so he can't double shot
32:46 <mort-> Like he usually does
32:49 <Ballig> not with rapid shot or manyshot, maybe with something else
32:53 <Hydrazine> still, one shot shoud be enough to bother em.
33:01 <Ballig> yeah
33:04 <Spaceshot> we talking about oskar?
33:08 <mort-> Yeah
33:10 <Ballig> it's a proper tactic, just not the double-arrow bit
33:14 <mort-> Little one
33:24 <mort-> If he hits
33:28 <mort-> He can miss too
34:03 <Hydrazine> well.
34:08 <Hydrazine> anyone can miss anything.
34:19 <Spaceshot> it was funny him doing most of the damage
34:28 <mort-> If hoku is in game. Probably hoku will grab the caster
34:31 <Hydrazine> if you expect 100% accuracy out of.. well, anything in d&d. and even most things in life.. you're doing it wrong.
34:43 <mort-> While poor khaz has to defend oskar
34:45 <Hydrazine> oh, hoku would just love to take a caster for a toss.
34:52 <Ballig> considering that there's always a 5% chance of missing even if your TAB is +1000
35:07 <mort-> Complaining all the time about his lack of armor
35:44 <Spaceshot> I so want to talk about it, but SPOILERS
36:10 <Avatar> are we still okay with 1pm saturday games?
36:14 <mort-> Don't
36:20 <mort-> Not next week for me
36:24 <mort-> Cousins wedding
36:28 <Avatar> in general
36:37 <Avatar> not on your off-weeks
36:45 <Avatar> I want to know what guideline to use for setting games
37:00 <Avatar> hydrazine you said you were changing your sleeping patterns
37:04 <Spaceshot> heh
37:07 <Hydrazine> I am.
37:10 <Hydrazine> During the week.
37:19 <Avatar> weekends still good?
37:21 <Spaceshot> they could always try to get phoenix tournament in next weekend XD
37:23 <Avatar> 1pm
38:03 <Spaceshot> I bet everyone who played will agree it was well worth playing
38:07 <Hydrazine> should be.
38:10 <Spaceshot> even though it was long, it was quite fun
39:25 <Brunius> 'twas
39:55 <Spaceshot> also, bard's are bloody awesome
39:56 <Spaceshot> XD
39:56 <mort-> We to low level
40:04 <Avatar> yeah uh
40:09 <Avatar> the chronicle sheet is pretty amazing
40:11 <mort-> Yeah buff bots
40:21 <Spaceshot> mort
40:24 <Brunius> It's got like a bagillion items on it
40:28 <Brunius> AQ:?"
40:28 <Spaceshot> it's still ok to play for I think a week or 2
40:31 <Avatar> a low level character will benefit from it greatly
40:34 <Brunius> Er
40:35 <Brunius> Oops
40:47 <Spaceshot> yea, I think the items are more suited for a low level character
40:50 <Avatar> a level 11/12 character wont' 
40:58 <Spaceshot> from 1-7 will love the gear
41:19 <Spaceshot> well, there are a couple items in it for them, but they've usually got enough fame to buy them
41:43 <Avatar> it might actually be worth waiting for the update and applying it to a new character
42:12 <Avatar> mekkis are you there
42:15 <mort-> ?
42:20 <Spaceshot> nah, I still think bobbob would greatly love it
42:26 <Brunius> Dude
42:31 <Avatar> bobbob can probably afford most of it anyway
42:33 <Brunius> You can't apply it to a new character
42:36 <Avatar> with fame
42:39 <Brunius> That's not the spirit of it
42:40 <mort-> Please don't do it next week
42:45 <Avatar> yes you can?
43:03 <Spaceshot> you can till they change the rules for the ruby phoenix
43:03 <Avatar> what do you mean that's not the spirit of it
43:05 <Avatar> the rules say you can do it
43:09 <Brunius> What?
43:10 <Brunius> No they don't
43:12 <Spaceshot> once they change the rules, you have to be 10-12
43:14 <Brunius> Where does it say that
43:21 <Avatar> in the PFS guide under sanctioned modules
43:30 <Spaceshot> since there aren't pregen's at that bracket
43:47 <Brunius> This is using the old rules man
43:52 <Avatar> no that is using the new rules
43:56 <Brunius> And read the rules specifically for RPT
43:56 <Spaceshot> yes yes, for 2 or 3 weeks
44:00 <Avatar> the old rules are what we did
44:13 <Spaceshot> the old rules are still valid for a couple weeks
44:36 <mort-> Lol
44:38 <Spaceshot> RBT allows a current character leveled up, which in theory could be a brand new character leveled up
44:51 <mort-> Our pally here^^
44:53 <Avatar> that's not what we're talking about
45:11 <Spaceshot> but you can't play character X and apply it to character Y no
46:10 <mort-> I can wait right fine
46:38 <Spaceshot> but yea, it was very fun
47:07 <Avatar> Brunius: I'm talking about running it later, not this weekend's credit
47:12 <Brunius> Ah
47:16 <Brunius> That makes more sense
47:20 <Avatar> just picked up what you were talking about
47:56 <Avatar> I think you probably had the option to choose to play under the new rules
47:58 <Avatar> but why would you
48:05 <Brunius> Er
48:09 <Avatar> worst of both worlds
48:11 <Brunius> We can't play under the new rules
48:17 <Brunius> Mekkis is the only one here that could
48:43 <Avatar> we could play a level 11 pregenned up character and apply it to a new level 1er
48:49 <Avatar> but you'd only get 2/3 credit now
48:53 <Avatar> instead of 3/3 later
48:54 <Brunius> There aren't any level 11 pregenned
49:03 <Spaceshot> yea that's the issue
49:03 <Avatar> you make one
49:07 <Brunius> Can't
49:08 <Brunius> Yo.
49:10 <Avatar> like we did
49:20 <Brunius> Yeah, that's only under the old rules
49:44 <Spaceshot> yep
49:48 <Avatar> are you saying only level 11 proper characters can play it under the new rules
49:54 <Spaceshot> yes
49:55 <Brunius> Yeah
49:58 <Avatar> I don't think that's right
49:59 <Brunius> That's how it works
50:03 <mort-> Lol its ok
50:06 <Spaceshot> that's why darkwhite was so intent on getting it done now
50:10 <Brunius> For modules below level 9, if you do not have a character 
50:10 <Brunius> in the correct level range, you may use a Pathfinder 
50:10 <Brunius> Society pregenerated character, available on  paizo.com. 
50:13 <mort-> Gives us something
50:27 <mort-> To look foward te
50:28 <mort-> To
50:38 <Brunius> That says for <0
50:39 <Brunius> Er
50:41 <Brunius> <9
50:44 <mort-> At least hey hydrazine
50:49 <Brunius> And doesn't say anything about above
50:53 <mort-> You created hoku at 11
50:57 <Brunius> But I'd say that means you can't do that for above
51:01 <mort-> And me khaz :p
51:18 <mort-> How often do you get a glimpse into the future ^^
51:31 <Spaceshot> yep
51:45 <Avatar> I think it only says that because paizo doesn't have higher level pregens
51:48 <Spaceshot> meaning, you've got a limited time span as to play RBT without a level 10+
51:52 <Spaceshot> exactly
51:54 <Avatar> but you can still make your own levelled up characters
52:01 <Spaceshot> and if they don't have them, using the new rules, you can't make one
52:15 <Avatar> that might not have been in the PFS guide, it might have just been something darkwhite said
52:30 <Spaceshot> can you find rules for making a pregen?
52:52 <Avatar> what do you mean
53:23 <Spaceshot> can you find PFS rules allowing you to create your own pregen for a scenario in which you don't have a propably leveled character
53:42 <Avatar> it's the same as creating a normal PFS character, with different starting gold
54:11 <Spaceshot> where are the rules allowing it?
54:29 <Spaceshot> PFS has a very strict 'if it's not written it's not allowed' style
55:07 <Avatar> they did it for RBT man
55:20 <Spaceshot> yes, using old rules
55:25 <Avatar> it's probably in the v4.0 guide
55:35 <Avatar> the starting gold isn't, I think that's in the core book somewhere
55:37 <Spaceshot> rules that have been updated for every other module except RBT till the mid/end of march
55:52 <Avatar> I don't know, I haven't looked
55:57 <Avatar> open it up and see if it's there :P
56:10 <Brunius> If you want to do it, you have to find the rulebooks
56:16 <Spaceshot> HONing atm
57:17 <Hydrazine> ew.
57:23 <Brunius> ^
57:30 <Spaceshot> quiet you, playing with 4 peeps
57:48 <Hydrazine> thats not a redeeming factor.
58:02 <Spaceshot> it is
58:05 <Hydrazine> robbing a bank with 4 peeps is still robbing a bank.
58:09 <Spaceshot> I like both games
58:14 <Hydrazine> eating shit with 4 people who're also eating shit is still.. eating shit.
58:15 <Spaceshot> HON is better at being DOTA
58:29 <Spaceshot> LOL has dom mode
58:57 <Spaceshot> I'm not prejudice to games
59:03 <Spaceshot> only to their price
59:20 <Avatar> can't find it in the emails
59:21 <Hydrazine> i tried HoN and hated it.
59:44 <Spaceshot> each to their own hydra
59:54 <Spaceshot> did you like dota?
00:03 <Hydrazine> never played it actually.
00:21 <Spaceshot> ahh
00:26 <Spaceshot> that might explain a bit
00:40 <Avatar> fuck dota
01:12 <mort-> Lol hydqa
01:24 <Spaceshot> no jo
01:24 <mort-> I suck at dota don't play hon
01:25 <Spaceshot> joo*
01:33 <Spaceshot> again, each to their own
01:44 <Avatar> I'll clear it up later when I care about it
02:14 <Avatar> maybe I just heard darkwhite talking about it 
09:50 <Spaceshot> anywho, again, worth it
12:21 <Spaceshot> can't even talk about the rewards properly :P
12:29 <Spaceshot> though level 3 ava is a happy ava
12:47 <Avatar> yeah I get level 2 spells 
12:49 <Avatar> hooray
12:58 <Avatar> oh, and a hex!
12:59 <Spaceshot> I get resistance 10 fire and a feat
13:01 <Spaceshot> and a feat
13:11 <Spaceshot> maybe spell hex?
13:19 <Avatar> not a feat
13:29 <Spaceshot> feat is ever odd level in PFS
13:37 <Avatar> oh wait, 3rd level
13:38 <Avatar> I'm thinking second
13:41 <Spaceshot> DUH
13:44 <Avatar> I don't get a hex
13:51 <Avatar> DUH
13:52 <Spaceshot> 2nd level spells, 3rd level character
14:23 <Spaceshot> you're as good at this as driving directions
14:50 <Avatar> the feat will be extra hex
16:09 <Spaceshot> yea, you need fortune :P
16:18 <Avatar> fortune is a crappy hex man
16:37 <Spaceshot> not the worst though
16:39 <mort-> Oh!
16:52 <mort-> Bring ava along next time we game!
17:10 <Avatar> fortune is not the opposite of misfortune, you have to remember
17:13 <mort-> Will kill for a healbot!
17:19 <Avatar> because you can only use both of them on one target per day
17:30 <Avatar> and when you use it on a bad guy, you use it and kill him and find more bad guys
17:40 <Avatar> when you use it on a good guy, you kill the bad guys and move on with the same good guys
18:09 <Spaceshot> heh
18:22 <Spaceshot> mort-: the healbot of the module was avatar's infernal wand
18:23 <Avatar> I need to take either flight or ward
18:33 <Avatar> haha it was wasn't it
18:40 <mort-> Lol you evil toots
18:42 <Avatar> if I had raise dead I probably could have taken over the healing completely
18:44 <Spaceshot> did way more than me
18:53 <mort-> You sold your soul to the devil :(
18:55 <Avatar> not that anyone actually died
18:58 <Spaceshot> lol, didn't even need breath of life
19:00 <mort-> But he is pleased
19:03 <Avatar> you don't understand mort
19:06 <Avatar> you don't understand
19:08 <mort-> HE
19:24 <mort-> BWAHAHA
19:29 <mort-> lol
19:31 <Spaceshot> the closest we got was the second to last fight
19:40 <Spaceshot> and that was the first one to get any of us at under half :P
19:43 <Avatar> scar is good, but only for use with split hex
19:59 <mort-> In combat healing not a problem?
20:10 <Avatar> we never needed it
20:12 <mort-> Wand of clw enough?
20:15 <Avatar> if we did, we had an oracle and wands
20:31 <mort-> I take it no one actually bothered to try invisibility
20:39 <Spaceshot> I used cure crit once all mod
20:41 <mort-> Since the way you guys talk about  it
20:43 <Avatar> everything was over in 2 rounds
20:49 <Spaceshot> on that fight that brought a couple of us down to half
20:51 <mort-> It sounded like a monster massacre
20:59 <Spaceshot> oskar is broken
21:03 <Hydrazine> rofl.
21:07 <mort-> You need mass cure for that i think
21:08 <Hydrazine> kicks ass does he?
21:10 <Avatar> oskar was doing crazy damage
21:15 <mort-> What did  he do
21:22 <Avatar> crazy damage
21:29 <Hydrazine> jerus would too!
21:38 <Avatar> I'm sure more than I've seen the fighters do
21:43 <Avatar> but then he's level 11
21:48 <mort-> Can you tell me about bard juffs?
21:49 <Hydrazine> oskar is a fighter.
21:54 <mort-> Buffs?
22:03 <Avatar> the regular fighters :P
22:08 <Avatar> meleers
22:15 <mort-> Tell me about the buffs
22:17 <Spaceshot> archaologist archetype bard/dragon disciple
22:28 <Avatar> debuffs is where itz at
22:29 <mort-> The bard used
22:37 <mort-> Oh i see
22:40 <Avatar> just call your friendly neighbourhood witch
23:07 <mort-> No did the bard use combat buffs?
23:11 <Spaceshot> yea hexes are awesome
23:16 <Spaceshot> so is dimensional door
23:27 <mort-> I will actually have crap damage output i think
23:28 <Avatar> the bard was playing like a fighter
23:30 <mort-> Had a look
23:33 <mort-> Lol
23:38 <mort-> After you rdd
23:41 <Avatar> I don't think he actually used any bard skills like inspire confidence
23:49 <Brunius> He was essentially a rogue
23:50 <mort-> That's a logical thing to do
23:55 <Brunius> He had some archetype
23:59 <mort-> He can sneak attack?
24:06 <Avatar> the way his character was built was amazing
24:14 <Avatar> he can't sneak attack
24:19 <Brunius> Mort- He didn't have sneak attack
24:25 <Brunius> That was the only thing he said he missed out on
24:30 <mort-> Give me the wands i can probably buff the entire party
24:31 <mort-> Lol
24:34 <Brunius> Oh, and rogue talents were at later levels
24:37 <Avatar> what book is archaeologist in
24:38 <mort-> Ah
24:53 <Spaceshot> APG iirc
24:57 <mort-> But my damage output
25:03 <Avatar> nope
25:08 <mort-> What's oskars damage mod
25:16 <mort-> 1d8+14?
25:17 <Avatar> UC
25:20 <mort-> Or more
26:03 <Spaceshot> yea 1d8+14
26:07 <Avatar> yep that is a cool archetype
26:08 <Spaceshot> per arrow
26:19 <Avatar> I never thought to look at bard archetypes before at all
26:23 <Spaceshot> yea, also look at hexcrafter for magus
26:26 <Spaceshot> that's also cool
27:13 <mort-> I'm having +5 atm
27:16 <mort-> Damn
27:29 * mort- growls
27:47 <Spaceshot> heh
27:48 <Hydrazine> looks like 1d8+4.
27:57 <Spaceshot> I was at +17 damage
27:58 <mort-> Not really
28:04 <Spaceshot> +20 with divine favor/power
28:05 <Hydrazine> http://www.combatopia.com/oskar11.txt
28:06 <mort-> 21 str
28:19 <mort-> Can't be that low?!
28:30 <mort-> For goodness sake
28:50 <Spaceshot> heh, the bard had 29str
29:11 <Hydrazine> oh. +15 when hes trying.
29:44 <mort-> 14 15 ish
29:55 <mort-> He is rdd. He cheats
29:56 <mort-> Lol
30:08 <Spaceshot> yes, yes he is
30:35 <mort-> Ive ever sub classed bard one
30:42 <mort-> Just for rdd lol
30:44 <mort-> In comp
30:59 <mort-> That's really gimpee
31:00 <mort-> D
31:13 <mort-> How did people manage to boost their damage that high
31:42 * mort- sits around and sulks
31:47 <Spaceshot> I've got 18str, +2 keen falchion
31:54 <Spaceshot> and power attack with 9BAB
32:40 <mort-> Not to hit
32:43 <mort-> Its the damage
33:04 <mort-> Bab doesn't add to damage does it?
33:10 <Spaceshot> 18str gives +4, +6 for 2H, +2 for magic weapon, and +6 for power attack, whic is +9 for 2H
33:16 <Spaceshot> and +3 for divine favor/power
33:55 <mort-> Pa is 1.5 times as well?
33:59 <Spaceshot> yep
34:06 <mort-> Oh ho
34:11 <mort-> But what's your to hit
34:28 <Spaceshot> my 15/10 + haste
34:33 <Spaceshot> with divine power
34:43 <mort-> Divine power is nice
34:47 <Spaceshot> not the most optimised, but still useful
34:48 <Mekkis> Brunius, I can't
34:53 <mort-> But i really should avoid using it
34:59 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm here now
35:04 <Brunius> I thought you said you had an appropriately levelled character?
35:13 <Mekkis> for RPT?
35:29 <Brunius> yeah
35:55 <Mekkis> as in, levelled up the hard way?
36:31 <Spaceshot> yep
36:37 <mort-> I can't use divine favour
36:41 <Mekkis> Mytiazair is two XP off 10th
36:52 <mort-> It will give me a headache :(
36:58 <Mekkis> but I won't play RPT until 12th
37:12 <mort-> Not without preparation
37:20 <Brunius> Oh
37:23 <mort-> And if fights are over in two rounds
37:28 <Brunius> Luke told us today about a 13th level module
37:30 <mort-> Nothing to prepare ^^
37:36 <Brunius> So there are three ways to "bridge the gap"
37:38 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: supposedly there is a third was to get from 12 to 13
37:41 <Mekkis> oh
37:43 <mort-> Just walk in and make a mess
37:44 <Mekkis> fair enough
37:46 <Mekkis> still
37:52 <Mekkis> no reason to waste them
37:54 <Avatar> yeah
37:57 <Avatar> academy something
38:00 <Mekkis> when you could be playing 10-11 mods
38:12 <Avatar> yeah true
38:18 <Avatar> well
38:19 <Avatar> there is a reason
38:26 <Spaceshot> could you run RBT and level a guy from 12 to 13 with the credit?
38:31 <Avatar> the ridiculous amount of items on the chronicle sheet that become always available
38:52 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm guessing about 40 scrolls?
38:57 <Avatar> no
38:59 <Avatar> it is all good shit
39:00 <Spaceshot> they are really good for low level characters with very little fame
39:09 <Mekkis> oh
39:12 <Spaceshot> about half of the items are one use
39:19 <Mekkis> you only get that when Matt Goodall writes the mod
39:20 <Avatar> it is the kind of gear you want to pick up throughout your career
39:21 <Spaceshot> or maybe even only a third
40:07 <Spaceshot> also mort, silence was a very very good spell to have
40:17 <Avatar> disagree there
42:27 <Spaceshot> ok, it didn't beat another spell I should of replaced a skill point with
42:30 <mort-> He is the one who can cast silence
42:38 <Spaceshot> but, it did help 2 encounters
42:39 <mort-> And is unaffected by it
42:48 <Spaceshot> one of which was very dangerous if the caster was able to cast
42:57 <Avatar> it has the same problems it has anywhere
43:00 <Spaceshot> heh, I cast it on the bard DD
43:07 <mort-> Oh you meanie
43:14 <mort-> Then went go bait!
43:19 <mort-> Right?
43:28 <mort-> Why not bru
43:30 <Spaceshot> he only cast spells out of combat as buffs
43:43 <mort-> Bru has higher ac
44:10 <Brunius> 27
44:34 <Spaceshot> yes, but the bard was in closer to their face
45:57 <Spaceshot> all in all, it was very very fun
46:22 <Spaceshot> we did feel a bit overpowered, and darkwhite did learn a lot of things in his tactics in which he'll then change for the later games
46:40 <Mekkis> so, Brunius, what's your opinion of Holy Sword?
46:48 <Brunius> It's good
46:49 <Spaceshot> did it really do anything?
46:50 <mort-> Lol
46:52 <Spaceshot> what's it do again?
46:52 <Brunius> But I don't think it was needed
47:00 <Mekkis> is it "I'll buy a wand of it ASAP" good?
47:00 <Brunius> +5 holy to melee weapon touched
47:01 <mort-> Did he even take it out?
47:05 <Brunius> Nah
47:12 <Brunius> I used it three times
47:25 <mort-> So i heard everything got wiped in 2 rounds
47:39 <Spaceshot> basically
47:48 <Spaceshot> there were a few rounds which were abit longer
47:52 <Brunius> There were a couple of encounters longer
47:52 <Spaceshot> but the rough time was 1-2 rounds
47:55 <mort-> Lol
48:01 <mort-> That's fast
48:06 <Brunius> We killed one thing in one hit with 144 damage
48:19 <mort-> We usually spend 4-5 rounds hacking at each other
48:19 <Spaceshot> with a brace of 144
48:23 <mort-> And missing horribly
48:32 <mort-> Stupid monster :p
48:47 <mort-> Charging up a braced bard ^^
49:50 <Spaceshot> yea, darkwhite after that happened was like 'oh yea, he has these abilities'
50:05 <mort-> Lol
50:19 <mort-> One of the faster ways to die
01:13 <Mekkis> 64 page mod?
01:59 <Spaceshot> don't know, it looked like twice the size of a normal mod, maybe a bit bigger
02:04 <Spaceshot> though I've only seen a few mods
39:58 * mort- wuhs
47:12 <Avatar> it wasn't the size of a normal mo
47:13 <Avatar> d
47:34 <Avatar> 3 mods maybe
11:16 <Spaceshot> mmm
11:30 <Spaceshot> easily 12-20hrs worth :P
15:04 <Spaceshot> I'm not sure what feat to get at the moment
15:13 <Spaceshot> selective channel is still highly worth it
18:37 <Avatar> spell focus is good
20:13 <Spaceshot> for a practical healbot?
20:20 <Spaceshot> I don't hit things for a while
20:27 <Spaceshot> not easily anyway
20:48 <Spaceshot> even if I do have +2bab atm I still only have +4 TAB
21:12 <Spaceshot> and I don't have any offensive spells till level 2
21:19 <Spaceshot> even then hold person is on the waiting list
25:48 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, what about Turn Undead?
26:00 <Spaceshot> I'll just channel
26:12 <Spaceshot> or energy body
26:27 <Mekkis> I've never seen anyone use Turn Undead
26:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, I thought the 13th level mod was on the retirement path
27:10 <Avatar> no idea, I don't know the specifics
27:15 <Avatar> barely remembered the name :P
28:31 <Mekkis> I want to take Mytiazair to 19th, so he can THEN laugh at the single-classed wizards with a "in the end, I came out on top"
28:32 <Mekkis> :S
29:14 <Spaceshot> but at 17th level they'll be laughing at you XD
29:22 <Mekkis> hey
29:30 <Mekkis> they've been laughing at me from 3rd
29:40 <Spaceshot> that's your fault
29:53 <Spaceshot> especially for taking that wasted level of that 4th class you have
29:57 <Spaceshot> forgot what it was
30:00 <Mekkis> I won't argue with you for that
30:15 <Spaceshot> what class was it again?
30:19 <Mekkis> the fourth class wasn't a probelm
30:25 <Mekkis> Arcane Trickster
30:33 <Spaceshot> not that one
30:44 <Mekkis> Master Spy?
30:53 <Spaceshot> I'm counting rogue/wizard/arcane trickster as your proper 3 classes
30:55 <Spaceshot> yea that one
30:56 <Spaceshot> XD
31:14 <Mekkis> why?
31:24 <Mekkis> master spy means I lose two caster levels
31:27 <Mekkis> not three
31:42 <Spaceshot> it's enough to make a difference
32:00 <Mekkis> so what was wrong with that?
32:11 <Mekkis> you saying I should have gone rogue 3
32:18 <Mekkis> rather than rogue 1 / master spy 1?
33:09 <Spaceshot> you do realise sneak attack is a constant level based stack right
33:44 <Spaceshot> gaining 1 level in a class that gives 1d6 sneak attack at level 1, and then another 1 level in a different class that gives 1d6 sneak attack at level 1 does not give 2d6
34:49 <mort-> Oh
35:04 <mort-> I think its the saves of the spells you use
35:08 <Spaceshot> it basically outlines that in vivisectionist alchemist
35:16 <mort-> And how you utilize them really
35:26 <mort-> Tag the right spell on the right person
36:44 <Spaceshot> so basically Mytaizair is an illegal character
36:45 * mort- ponders how to fight without decent dcs
36:50 <Spaceshot> and I'm guessing has been for some time
36:52 <mort-> I don't think so
37:24 <mort-> I think mek knows the rules well enough to make things legal
37:44 <Spaceshot> I doubt it
37:58 <Spaceshot> he always trys to break the rules, and when he does he makes sure it's legal
38:10 * mort- glares at spaceshot and bites him
38:10 <Spaceshot> but it doesn't mean he doesn't overlook things
38:16 <mort-> Yay!
38:28 <Spaceshot> mort-: I wouldn't be banwagoning mekkis, let alone anyone
38:29 <mort-> We all fk up sometime
38:36 <Spaceshot> that's basically why XD
38:55 * mort- bites spaceshot because he tastes good
39:00 <Spaceshot> haha
39:06 * mort- takes another bite
39:11 <mort-> Mmph
39:15 <Spaceshot> Gonna keep ava away from mort :P
40:39 <Spaceshot> also, I may be tempted to run Black Water in here soon
40:40 <mort-> Lol
40:47 <mort-> What that?
40:59 * mort- ears prick up
41:17 <Spaceshot> Black Waters, scenario 06
41:40 <Spaceshot> level 1-5 XD
41:48 <Spaceshot> mainly because I've played it
41:54 <Spaceshot> and I might have some spare cash to buy it XD
41:59 <mort-> K
42:10 <Spaceshot> plus it means I can get free exp for a new toon
43:51 <mort-> K
45:38 <Spaceshot> though supposedly only vivisectionist alchemist has that rule
45:44 <Spaceshot> so no idea about master spy
45:50 <Mekkis> I'm pretty sure it's only the vivisectionist
45:55 <Spaceshot> but it seems like bullshit minmaxing to me
46:09 <Spaceshot> and I'm also pretty sure you spent the last 20mins looking it up
46:25 <Mekkis> (TBH, if they have errataed it in that way, it means that I get to rebuild the character :S)
46:38 <Mekkis> (Which I probably would be rather happy to do...)
46:47 <Spaceshot> you don't get to completely rebuild it
46:56 <Spaceshot> you only get to rebuild what is illegal
46:57 <Mekkis> yes
47:00 <Spaceshot> everything that is legal stays
47:24 <Spaceshot> which is basically, you have to remove master spy and 1 arcane trickster level to 2 rogue levels
47:30 <Spaceshot> I'd be guessing
47:58 <Spaceshot> and, unless it's a kick in the balls to vivisectionists, it seems that rules there are either just for base classes, or for all classes
48:04 <Spaceshot> but I dunno really
48:13 <Mekkis> well
48:21 <Mekkis> it wasn't that way for Assassins
49:02 <Mekkis> If a class, prestige class changes, or a class-feature-dependent Ability score is altered:
49:02 <Mekkis> You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.
49:30 <Mekkis> pretty clear to me
49:33 <Spaceshot> I don't believe any of them change
49:52 <Mekkis> it's a change to Master Spy
49:54 <Spaceshot> the class doesn't change, the PrC doesn't change
50:02 <Spaceshot> no, it's a change to sneak attack
50:04 <Mekkis> (as published in the APG, there was nothing like that)
50:04 <Spaceshot> not the class
50:16 <Spaceshot> it'd be a flat rule to sneak attack
51:05 <Mekkis> stop your speculation
51:15 <Mekkis> regardless, that would be a change to a class
51:23 <Spaceshot> nope
51:33 <Mekkis> sneak attack is a class feature
51:40 <Spaceshot> you're just being extremely vague in your prefered interpretation of the word class
51:44 <Mekkis> a change to sneak attack is a change to a class feature
51:55 <Mekkis> if a class feature changes, so does the class
52:34 <Spaceshot> no
52:46 <Mekkis> IF that is the case, I'll need a citation
52:57 <Spaceshot> in your interpretation
52:58 <Mekkis> and I'll need one in an official source
53:14 <Spaceshot> every time they supply a new spell to any spell caster
53:40 <Spaceshot> they changed/altered their magical ability, thus they changed the class thus I can rebuild my character
56:58 <Spaceshot> I personally think that interpretation is bullshit for the one reason of, create character to level 12, get to remake because new book came out with new spell
56:59 <Spaceshot> XD
57:53 <Mekkis> where does it say anywhere but the vivisectionist that sneak attack works the way you describe?
58:09 <Spaceshot> learn to read?
58:16 <Spaceshot> it doesn't
58:17 <Mekkis> I know how to read
58:29 <Mekkis> so...
58:39 <Spaceshot> but in vivisectionist it states that CLASSES that share sneak attack damage stack to make the effective rogue levels
58:51 <Spaceshot> not vivisectionist and other sneak attack venues
59:57 <Mekkis> interesting interpretation
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