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00:01:02 <Hydrazine> Morning.
00:03:35 <mort-> Morning hydra
00:03:37 <mort-> Uh
00:04:00 <mort-> Good luck on sat
00:04:17 <mort-> Seems our generation lacks healers
00:04:30 <mort-> Grinz
00:04:41 <Hydrazine> I considered making one.
00:05:10 <mort-> Haha
00:05:12 <Hydrazine> Really, I only have 2 chars. Its not like I have 12 and still no healer.
00:05:20 <mort-> Lol
00:05:31 <mort-> Screw healing we have the stick!
00:05:43 <mort-> Well out of combat.
00:06:26 <mort-> If you turn healer it means its up to me to guard you :(
00:06:33 <mort-> And I'm a glass cannon myself
00:31:18 <Avatar> my second char was a cleric because we were low on healers :)
00:34:06 <mort-> Lol
00:34:14 <mort-> I say out of fun
00:34:24 <mort-> Lets just run without and see what happens
00:34:45 <Avatar> do you have a backup healer
00:35:04 <mort-> No
00:35:17 <Avatar> risky business
00:35:21 <mort-> And it isn't the first time this happened
00:35:51 <mort-> Well the closest taht comes is my umd
00:36:18 <mort-> Any in combat heals its pots
00:39:22 <Avatar> you can't rely on umd at low levels
00:44:31 <mort-> Pot and dps then
00:44:50 <mort-> Hopefully none.of us fall over :d
00:51:21 <mort-> Night all
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01:26:37 <Avatar> a few posts in the forums say you just need the shirt in your posession
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05:02:24 <Hydrazine> yo
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05:50:19 <Brunius> Mekkis, I said I'd consider DMing on the 1st
05:50:24 <Brunius> I didn't commit.
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05:59:04 <Brunius> Gotta restart, virus scanning.
05:59:05 <Brunius> Later
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13:24:01 <mekkis_tablet> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz5e9m?A-Call-To-All-SubOptimals-MiddleLines-and
13:55:40 <Avatar> there's still a distinction between optimise and munchkin
13:58:53 <Avatar> "play something where there is a chance you'll die" is a good rule of thumb
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14:11:12 <MekkisScreen> Avatar, I know
14:11:32 <MekkisScreen> I think all my characters have been in situations where they've almost died
14:11:54 <Mort-> Lol
14:12:16 <Mort-> Mort hasn't actually not quite yet
14:13:13 <Brunius> Wasn't mort in the scenario with that bloody hound?
14:13:58 <Mort-> I wasn't ties
14:13:59 <Mort-> There
14:14:06 <Mort-> And i didn't get bit
14:14:16 <Mort-> I was on a job interview remember?
14:14:24 <Mort-> Well i wasn't playing
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14:26:30 <MekkisScreen> I've played one scenario where I felt that there was no chance to die
14:26:44 <MekkisScreen> that was when Mytiazair went to the dark side
14:26:47 <MekkisScreen> he's learnt!
14:34:21 <Mort-> I don't really as i said worry about mort that much
14:34:31 <Mort-> You don't see her charging
14:34:44 <Mort-> You couldn't uh pay her to stand in front
14:34:54 <Mort-> She hides somewhere behind
14:51:03 <MekkisScreen> behind != safe
14:51:54 <MekkisScreen> Safe is "In the local temple of Cayden Caelian, with a cleric standing by with a wand of Cure Light Wounds"
14:52:21 <Mort-> Lol
14:52:37 <Mort-> I also am within reach of a cleric :d
14:52:53 <Mort-> If that preacher would actually do something
15:00:44 <MekkisScreen> Mytiazair has a lot of experience with the clerics of Cayden Caelien
15:00:49 <MekkisScreen> hell, he converted!
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15:36:51 <yeagel> hello
15:41:29 <Mort-> Hello
15:41:47 <Mort-> I'm reading tomes of forbidden magic
15:44:38 <TruthToy> hey do you guys watch the spoony experiment?
15:44:48 <Mort-> Nope
15:45:15 <TruthToy> he's been doing counter monkey which is a series of funny tabletop games stories
15:45:17 <TruthToy> want a link?
15:51:05 <Mort-> At work
15:51:10 <Mort-> No you tube
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17:03:24 <Avatar> spoony is a bit of a wank reviewer
17:15:57 <MekkisScreen> yes
17:15:58 <MekkisScreen> he is
17:17:09 <MekkisScreen> jj
17:18:13 <MekkisScreen> I'm preparing to run BTD2
17:18:34 <MekkisScreen> at 6-7
17:21:43 <Mort-> Good luck
17:24:14 <Mort-> Can't believe i failed almost all my strength checks to get the box of stuffs across the office
17:24:40 <Mort-> I had to use my body weight to uh lift it on com improvised trolley
17:24:52 <Mort-> Then shove it all across the office ><
17:25:58 <MekkisScreen> !throw 2d6
17:26:00 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2d6: [2d6=3,1] 4
17:26:04 <MekkisScreen> !cast 2d6
17:26:04 <Ballig> [MekkisScreen] 2d6 -- 4 4 (Total: 8)
17:26:13 <MekkisScreen> !roll 2d6
17:26:13 <Avatar> [MekkisScreen] 2d6 -- 2 4 (Total: 6)
17:26:13 <dicebot> MekkisScreen, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [2d6]
17:26:28 <Spaceshot> you running it IRL mekkis?
17:26:29 <MekkisScreen> wft
17:26:40 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot: of course
17:26:41 <Avatar> I could've run something today but we had a pretty quiet afternoon
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17:27:03 <MekkisScreen> !roll 567d789
17:27:03 <dicebot> MekkisScreen, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [567d789]
17:27:19 <Spaceshot> !cast 26d6
17:27:19 <Ballig> [Spaceshot] 26d6 -- 5 4 4 4 5 3 1 4 1 2 2 4 4 3 2 3 5 4 5 1 3 5 6 3 5 3 (Total: 91)
17:27:25 <Spaceshot> !cast 26d6 *4
17:27:33 <Spaceshot> bah
17:27:37 <Brunius_> !throw 0871908476536d12875987426456
17:27:47 <Spaceshot> !roll 200d6
17:27:47 <dicebot> Spaceshot, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [200d6]
17:27:53 <Spaceshot> !roll 20d6
17:27:54 <Avatar> [Spaceshot] 20d6 -- 3 2 3 3 5 6 1 6 4 4 6 2 3 5 3 1 5 2 5 4 (Total: 73)
17:27:54 <dicebot> Spaceshot, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [20d6]
17:28:05 <Spaceshot> !roll 100d6
17:28:06 <dicebot> Spaceshot, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [100d6]
17:28:06 <Spaceshot> !roll 99d6
17:28:06 <dicebot> Spaceshot, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [99d6]
17:28:06 <Spaceshot> !roll 50d6
17:28:06 <Avatar> [Spaceshot] 50d6 -- 4 6 5 6 3 6 5 6 2 2 2 2 3 5 6 2 2 6 6 1 2 5 1 3 5 3 1 1 1 3 3 2 2 3 1 5 2 1 6 2 3 3 2 5 6 5 6 4 5 3 (Total: 174)
17:28:06 <dicebot> Spaceshot, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [50d6]
17:28:11 <Spaceshot> !roll 50d10
17:28:12 <Avatar> [Spaceshot] 50d10 -- 8 9 1 9 3 8 2 1 8 4 5 8 8 1 5 3 9 8 10 10 8 2 6 6 5 9 1 5 7 3 6 9 5 4 6 9 7 9 2 9 7 6 10 1 4 3 1 2 5 2 (Total: 279)
17:28:12 <dicebot> Spaceshot, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [50d10]
17:28:15 <Spaceshot> !roll 50d13
17:28:15 <Avatar> [Spaceshot] 50d13 -- 5 6 13 6 3 9 11 4 12 6 11 11 8 8 2 11 6 5 13 12 3 7 3 4 13 2 6 1 2 13 7 9 13 13 1 12 12 11 1 5 2 3 9 13 5 13 6 1 4 6 (Total: 362)
17:28:15 <dicebot> Spaceshot, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [50d13]
17:28:17 <Brunius_> !roll 1d1
17:28:17 <Avatar> [Brunius_] 1d1 -- 1 (Total: 1)
17:28:17 <dicebot> Brunius_, Jerk No match: [[0-9]+d[0-9]+] [1d1]
17:28:26 <MekkisScreen> !throw 2d4
17:28:29 <Spaceshot> I sware that's ugly still
17:29:24 <diebot> Brunius_, I don't understand...
17:29:25 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2d4: [2d4=1,4] 5
17:29:30 <Brunius_> What a lagger
17:29:55 <Spaceshot> anywho, you said you'd be running FS2 on friday ballig?
17:30:09 <Avatar> I said I can
17:30:18 <Avatar> do we have enough people who are keen
17:30:20 <Spaceshot> someone said they could
17:30:26 <Avatar> it was only going to be for phly
17:30:29 <Avatar> to level up
17:30:33 <Avatar> which it turns out he couldn't
17:30:35 <Spaceshot> well I don't get home till about 5:30/6 so that's a bit late probs
17:32:01 <MekkisScreen> any suggestions for what to run at conquest?
17:32:14 <Brunius_> Sniper In The Deep
17:32:45 <Spaceshot> everything that usually TPKs
17:32:45 <MekkisScreen> YOU could do that
17:32:58 <MekkisScreen> slot-zero it the previous week
17:33:07 <MekkisScreen> and run it at conquest!
17:33:08 <Brunius_> slot-zero it?
17:33:14 <MekkisScreen> yeah
17:33:23 <Brunius_> define: slot-zero
17:33:27 <MekkisScreen> play through it with a group to practise
17:34:33 <Spaceshot> fuck that:P
17:34:54 <MekkisScreen> don't run unprepared stuff at cons
17:35:21 <Spaceshot> or just don't run shit at cons
17:35:49 <MekkisScreen> that's a horrible attitude, spaceshot!
17:36:04 <Spaceshot> lies, it works for me
17:36:16 <Brunius_> I might speak to Stephen about it.
17:36:22 <MekkisScreen> for a parasite like you
17:36:42 <MekkisScreen> Brunius_: want us to chip in for the mod for you?
17:36:43 <Brunius_> Yeah man
17:36:49 <Brunius_> Taking Ballig's tax money
17:36:54 <Brunius_> To fund your warhammer.
17:36:58 <Brunius_> Jeez man.
17:37:16 <Brunius_> Thass so irresponsible
17:38:06 <MekkisScreen> fine
17:38:20 <MekkisScreen> I'll give you the mod tonight or tomorrow then
17:39:01 <Spaceshot> Brunius_: I'll do whatever I want with ballig's tax money
17:39:27 <Brunius_> Mekkis: I can buy it tomorrow
17:39:36 <Spaceshot> and I haven't even bought warhampster stuff for ages
17:39:57 <MekkisScreen> sure
17:40:10 <MekkisScreen> I'll buy you half a lunch at conquest
17:40:18 <Brunius_> y
17:40:19 <Spaceshot> :P
17:40:31 <Brunius_> I will probably be bringing a packed lunch !
17:40:35 <Spaceshot> so, are you expected to be able to play 4 sessions a day at conquest?
17:40:46 <Brunius_> 4/day?
17:40:48 <MekkisScreen> yep!
17:40:53 <Brunius_> Wha?
17:40:56 <Avatar> 2 'sessions' = 1 'scenario'
17:40:57 <MekkisScreen> excapt I might be running some
17:41:01 <Spaceshot> ahh
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17:41:06 <Spaceshot> that makes more sense
17:41:40 <MekkisScreen> probably btd2 and Pallid Plague
17:41:41 <Spaceshot> I was gonna say, I really doubt a scenario would be over from 9am to 12:30
17:41:57 <MekkisScreen> actually BTD1 and 2
17:41:59 <Brunius_> Spaceshot: We played FS3 in that amount of time.
17:42:00 <Brunius_> Once.
17:42:08 <Brunius_> Don't know about more than that
17:42:13 <Spaceshot> with metagaming?
17:42:17 <Brunius_> Nope
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17:42:38 <MekkisScreen> Brunius_: how long did your first session of FS2 take?
17:42:40 <Spaceshot> I think blood water gameplay time was about 3 or so hrs
17:42:45 <Brunius_> The one I ran?
17:42:52 <MekkisScreen> no
17:42:55 <MekkisScreen> the tpk
17:43:04 <Brunius_> About an hour.
17:43:24 <MekkisScreen> see?
17:43:27 <MekkisScreen> easy
17:43:33 <Spaceshot> just die
17:43:51 <Brunius_> Once we got into combat it was about 20 minutes
17:44:33 <Spaceshot> so who's planning to go all out on conquest besides mekkis?
17:44:47 <Brunius_> I am
17:44:48 <Brunius_> Only two days though
17:45:31 <Spaceshot> I might limit myself to avatar's schedule, depending how irritating it'd be to get there or back myself
17:45:50 <Ballig> Spaceshot: Avatar said he wanted to run FS2
17:45:55 <MekkisScreen> 500m walks are hard
17:46:02 <Spaceshot> either way ballig
17:46:35 <Spaceshot> is it 500m from the tram stop or the train stop?
17:47:06 <Brunius_> train
17:47:18 <Brunius_> It actually is that far away
17:47:34 <Spaceshot> ahh, yea I take the tram, and depending if it's really close, avatar would probably tell me to harden up and tram it in
17:47:40 <Spaceshot> since he'd have to go through the city and come back
17:48:09 <Brunius_> Mekkis: When does Avacyn Restored get released?
17:48:38 <Avatar> I'm going for the entire time
17:48:49 <Avatar> you're not on the way to melbourne high school, spaceshot
17:48:55 <Avatar> it's easy if you take a tram
17:48:55 <Avatar> er, train
17:49:14 <Spaceshot> I have to take a tram them train?
17:49:15 <Spaceshot> but... I'm a lazy fuck
17:49:15 <Avatar> how close are you to a train station
17:49:25 <Avatar> have a cry
17:49:28 <Spaceshot> melb uni
17:49:29 <Spaceshot> :P
17:49:33 <Spaceshot> sooooooooo far
17:49:36 <Spaceshot> :P
17:49:38 <Brunius_> Dude
17:49:39 <Avatar> tram it to parliament station
17:49:46 <Avatar> or melb central
17:49:51 <Brunius_> I'm gonna be travelling an hour each way to get there
17:49:52 <Spaceshot> yea I'll harden up
17:50:03 <Avatar> you only need to get to south yarra staion
17:50:05 <Ballig> "I'm lazy" does not make people want to go out of their way to assist you :p
17:50:17 <Spaceshot> Ballig: sure it does
17:50:21 <Avatar> it sure doesn't
17:50:22 <Spaceshot> makes them pity me
17:50:34 <Avatar> I want to take you even less than I did before now that I know you're lazy
17:50:37 <Ballig> people don't pity lazy people
17:51:01 <Ballig> laziness is considered self-inflicted, and people do not pity the self-inflicted
17:54:21 <Spaceshot> haha
17:54:38 <Spaceshot> yea, I like to call it laziness
17:54:41 <Spaceshot> but it really isn't
17:54:57 <Spaceshot> dysthemia is fun
17:54:59 <Spaceshot> XD
17:55:12 <Spaceshot> lack of motivation for the win
17:56:37 <Mort-> Ballig
17:56:38 <Brunius_> Yeah, I believe you
17:56:45 <Ballig> mort
17:56:54 <Mort-> Get ready to see more weird stuff from me
17:57:10 <Spaceshot> Brunius_: I'm not sure if trolling, or just being a dick
17:57:10 <Spaceshot> XD
17:57:16 <Mort-> paizo.com/forums/dmtz57vn&page=2?A-Guide-to-Touch-Spells-Spellstrike-and-Spell
17:57:25 <Mort-> Trying to see what i can do
17:57:31 <Mort-> And what i can't :p
17:57:51 <Ballig> keep in mind that just because a random on the forums thinks you can do it doesn't mean the GM will let you
17:58:20 <Spaceshot> heh is mort learning after sachiru?
17:58:28 <Ballig> pretty much
17:58:31 <Ballig> Mort-: what am I looking at specifically
17:58:37 <Ballig> I dont' want to read through the entire thread
18:01:13 <Tashes> https://www.facebook.com/solothirstcrusher
18:01:14 <Tashes> free solo
18:01:37 <Mort-> Round 2
18:04:18 <Ballig> what does round 2 mean
18:04:49 <Mort-> But if you move and cast touch spell in round 1 and then use your full attack on round 2, I understand you can make both attacks, the first one delivering the chill touch. "as part of a melee attack".
18:05:24 <Mort-> I think it means the moment i am storing one of those charges...
18:05:36 <Mort-> I can make 2 melee swings per round
18:05:47 <Ballig> you can already do that with spell strike
18:05:59 <Mort-> The fun comes
18:06:09 <Mort-> When i have like 5 charges of frost bite on me
18:06:31 <Mort-> So every round i use one charge to get another melee swing
18:06:34 <Spaceshot> how do you save charges?
18:06:38 <Ballig> "whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of 'touch' from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell th rough any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack. instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon as part of casting this spell"
18:06:42 <Mort-> I get 5
18:06:51 <Mort-> I can't possibly use 5 in one round
18:06:58 <Spaceshot> how do you get 5 charges?
18:07:04 <Ballig> you make the attack as part of casting the spell
18:07:06 <Mort-> The spell gives one charge per level lets say
18:07:10 <Ballig> spellstrike doesn't give you a free attack every round you have a charge held
18:07:15 <Ballig> it's a free attack as part of casting the spell
18:07:15 <Mort-> Better get it clear now
18:07:33 <Spaceshot> I'm still confused about the whole charge thing
18:07:35 <Mort-> But if you move and cast touch spell in round 1 and then use your full attack on round 2, I understand you can make both attacks, the first one delivering the chill touch. "as part of a melee attack".
18:07:40 <Mort-> What is the difference
18:07:42 <Avatar> Tashes: where ?
18:07:55 <Mort-> The person held charge and double attacked next round
18:08:01 <Ballig> doesn't mean he's meant to
18:08:06 <Ballig> just because he says that's what he understands
18:08:13 <Tashes> https://www.facebook.com/solothirstcrusher?sk=app_356618107705360 redeem locations
18:08:14 <Spaceshot> Mort-: you can't hold 5 spell charges
18:08:31 <Mort-> I can't stop myself
18:09:00 <Mort-> Unless you say i can touch 5 different opponents in one turn
18:09:12 <Mort-> Check out chill touch / frost bite
18:09:16 <Ballig> you get the spellstrike as part of the cast
18:09:20 <Ballig> it's quite clear
18:09:40 <Mort-> Yes on the round i cast i definitiely get 2 attacks
18:10:02 <Mort-> But if you move and cast touch spell in round 1 and then use your full attack on round 2, I understand you can make both attacks, the first one delivering the chill touch. "as part of a melee attack".
18:10:12 <Tashes> Oh, and i have a work thing that's come up on saturday. So i won't be around.
18:10:15 <Mort-> Why did that guy say that then
18:10:48 <Avatar> isn't that magus 101
18:10:59 <Avatar> cast in round 1 and then spellstrike on round 2 with the spell
18:11:26 <Mort-> The problem is i am not using simple stuff like shocking grasp
18:11:35 <Avatar> what spell are you talking about using
18:11:41 <Mort-> Frostbite
18:11:52 <Mort-> Ill get several rounds worth of that stuff
18:11:59 <Ballig> Mort-: spellstrike clearly says you get the free weapon attack as part of the spellcast
18:12:00 <Mort-> Once i reach higher levels
18:12:00 <Avatar> what book is that in
18:12:04 <Ballig> not as part of the 5 touch attacks
18:12:30 <Mort-> So how am i going to discharge the other 5?
18:12:35 <Ballig> with touch attacks
18:12:40 <Ballig> that don't deal weapon damage
18:12:49 <Ballig> just as the spell is intended
18:12:52 <Mort-> They are still held charges
18:12:56 <Ballig> so?
18:12:58 <Mort-> And anything
18:12:59 <Ballig> that's irrelevant
18:13:08 <Mort-> That gives you a touch
18:13:11 <Ballig> no
18:13:15 <Ballig> that's not what spellstrike says
18:13:17 <Mort-> Means you can spell strike it?
18:13:20 <Ballig> no
18:13:24 <Ballig> read spellstrike again and get back to me
18:20:02 <Spaceshot> spellstrike is CASTING A SPELL AND STRIKING AS YOU CAST THE SPELL
18:20:21 <Spaceshot> not casting a spell, waltzing up and unleashing said spell as many times as it allows
18:21:03 <Ballig> if you were meant to be able to u se your weapon for every charge of a touch spell, it would say that
18:21:10 <Ballig> instead it's pretty clear that you get the free melee attack as part of casting the spell
18:21:31 <Ballig> keep in mind that usually what happens is this: as a standard action, you cast a spell. you then get a FREE touch attack
18:21:41 <Ballig> however, if you hold that charge, next round you have to spend a standard action to use that touch attack
18:21:46 <Ballig> it was only free if you used it the same round as you cast
18:27:48 <Mort-> Hm
18:27:50 <Avatar> I'm a bit lost here
18:27:53 <Mort-> Semi at work here
18:28:16 <Avatar> I know how spell combat and spellstrike work, it's very basic
18:28:19 <Mort-> There was one person who casted chill touch
18:28:25 <Avatar> where is the confusion
18:28:27 <Mort-> Held for one round double striked
18:28:35 <Ballig> Avatar: chill touch actually gives you 5 touch attacks
18:28:41 <Ballig> well, one per level, or whatever
18:28:50 <Ballig> you can continue to make a touch attack each round
18:29:09 <Ballig> thing is, only the first is considered 'free', and therefore only the first (/if/ you used it the same round as you cast) would give you the spellstrike attack
18:29:52 <Avatar> if you continue to make touch attacks each round with the spell
18:29:59 <Avatar> then it's still one touch
18:30:04 <Avatar> with spell combat/spellstrike
18:30:21 <Ballig> the first is 'free' because you need it to be free in order to make the attack after casting a spell which is a standard action
18:30:35 <Ballig> but if you don't use it that round (hence you 'hold the charge'), or the other 4 that you use, are all done with standard actions
18:30:48 <Ballig> spellstrike just replaces that first 'free' touch
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18:31:55 <Brunius> !roll 1d20+4
18:32:06 <Brunius> Interesting.
18:32:44 <Ballig> what's interesting
18:32:47 <Avatar> chill touch reads to me, with magus, that you'd get the first touch and that's it
18:33:03 <Ballig> but only if you did it in the same round
18:33:10 <Ballig> not if you held it and tried to do the attack next round
18:33:20 <Mort-> God 5 charges
18:33:24 <Avatar> I don't think it makes a difference?
18:33:32 <Ballig> yeah
18:33:36 <Ballig> the free attack is part of casting the spell
18:33:36 <Mort-> It does actually
18:33:46 <Ballig> so you have to do it when you cast
18:33:49 <Avatar> either way it's spent when you strike
18:33:55 <Ballig> yeah
18:34:04 <Ballig> I think they're trying to prevent maguses from running around avoiding AOOs when they cast
18:34:06 <Ballig> to balance them up a bit
18:34:07 <Avatar> I don't see any advantage to holding it
18:34:13 <Avatar> why would you precast it
18:34:15 <Ballig> you avoid AOO
18:34:39 <Avatar> why did I think magus' didn't get aoo
18:34:45 <Ballig> they do
18:34:54 <Ballig> I had a magus at my table on monday who tried to say they didn't
18:34:59 <Ballig> but he was just trying to bullshit the GM
18:35:06 <Ballig> he's the guy who also tried to add his spellcraft to concentration
18:35:22 <Avatar> it might not have been aoo
18:35:31 <Avatar> magus get some special thing over other spellcasters that lets them melee reasonably
18:35:43 <Ballig> they can cast and attack in the same round
18:35:44 <Ballig> spell combat
18:36:08 <Avatar> I'm sure that's not it
18:36:09 <Ballig> it's like two-weapon fighting with a spell as your second weapon
18:36:26 <Avatar> yeah spell combat and spellstrike are pretty easy to understand if you understand TWF
18:36:26 <Ballig> that's what maguses get over other spellcasters that lets them melee :p
18:36:33 <Mort-> I can
18:36:42 <Mort-> Cast like a champ
18:49:28 <Spaceshot> I think with the charges, you could replace an attack that your BAB gives you to use a charge
18:49:34 <Spaceshot> if you fullround, or multiple even
18:50:06 <Avatar> Ballig / Mekkis: how do you guys feel about playing through QFP 2 on friday night instead of waiting until next weekend
18:50:15 <Spaceshot> this friday?
18:50:19 <Avatar> yeah, two days
18:50:23 <Avatar> two days for part two
18:50:28 <Ballig> I can do friday from like 7pm
18:50:35 <Spaceshot> QFP being level 5+ right?
18:50:38 <Spaceshot> I'm guessing :P
18:50:43 <Ballig> 1-5
18:50:44 <Avatar> it's a 1-2 4-5
18:51:23 <Spaceshot> ooo
18:51:32 <Mort-> I may not be able to play properly
18:51:32 <Spaceshot> do you have a 4th/5th yet?
18:51:33 <Avatar> a 7pm game could run until about 1am
18:51:39 <Avatar> unless we split it, which is fine
18:51:46 <Spaceshot> I wouldn't mind a split
18:51:48 <Mort-> Urm
18:52:01 <Mort-> I better not play on Friday
18:52:08 <Mort-> Sat is my cousins wedding
18:52:14 <Mort-> Need to store sleep
18:52:15 <Spaceshot> but I can go through till 1am, but it'd all depend if michelle starts her work this saturday (if she get's the job, which I hope)
18:52:36 <Mort-> May need wake up at some unholy hour too
18:52:55 <Avatar> should check with hydra as well
18:53:10 <Spaceshot> I wouldn't mind getting Ava some exp
18:53:15 <Spaceshot> :P
18:53:29 <Avatar> I'm trying to push QFP to be done before conquest
18:53:39 <Avatar> if we do the fortnightly thing, it won't be done
18:54:25 <Spaceshot> are we going as a team for any point during conquest?
18:54:35 <Spaceshot> or we just going to work out shit on the day?
18:54:37 <Avatar> there's no such thing in PFS
18:54:48 <Spaceshot> mmk
18:55:14 <Spaceshot> hmm... here's the plan to get $60 before conquest
18:55:18 <Spaceshot> which is in like 2 or 3 weeks right?
18:56:32 <Avatar> 6th till the 9th
18:56:53 <Spaceshot> so that's a yes?
18:57:25 <Ballig> is that the april long weekend? 6 to 9?
18:57:34 <Spaceshot> yup
18:57:37 <Spaceshot> easter
18:57:38 <Ballig> man, I just had a long weekend
18:57:43 <Ballig> now I get a super long weekend in a few weeks
18:57:49 <Spaceshot> oh noes, that's so sad
18:58:04 <Spaceshot> you could run a marathon of games for those not attending
18:58:14 <Ballig> unlikely
18:58:22 <Ballig> when arcanacon was on, nobody turned up for games in here
18:58:33 <Spaceshot> heh
18:58:40 <Spaceshot> well you've got mort and hydra at least
18:58:47 <Spaceshot> maybe tashes
18:59:08 <Ballig> too small of a shortlist to actually expect enough people to show
18:59:19 <Spaceshot> maybe if you plan something ahead of time
18:59:25 <Ballig> still too small of a shortlist
18:59:26 <Spaceshot> you might get some results
18:59:29 <Spaceshot> eh
18:59:33 <Ballig> you never get 100% of the people showing up
18:59:35 <Spaceshot> hydra and mort are reliable
18:59:40 <Ballig> and with a shortlist of three, you would need 100%
18:59:44 <Spaceshot> true
18:59:52 <Spaceshot> well find some more non melbourne players then
19:00:16 <Ballig> yes sir
19:00:23 <Spaceshot> that or come to conquest :P
19:00:30 <Ballig> can I crash at your place?
19:00:39 <Spaceshot> haha, doubt there's space
19:00:44 <Avatar> we used to always get 100% of the people showing up in the good old days
19:00:45 <Spaceshot> though avatar lives really close, and is free transport
19:00:55 <Ballig> I was bluffing, I wouldnt' crash at anybody's place
19:00:59 * Avatar weeps over toee
19:01:00 <Ballig> but I also wouldn't pay almost a grand for accommodation
19:01:47 <Avatar> I wouldn't pay for a flight
19:01:53 <Spaceshot> heh
19:02:06 <Spaceshot> I bet avatar has addequate crashing space
19:02:25 <Avatar> yeah I can accommodate interstaters, sometimes
19:02:28 <Mort-> Round 2: Cast Frostbite(with Rime), get free touch attack and deliver through Spell Strike. 1d6+5 weapon, 1d6+5 nonlethal cold damage (triggering Fatigue, Shaken from Enforcer, and Entangle)
19:02:34 <Mort-> That part too
19:02:46 <Avatar> you could find yourself getting a taxi back if you plan to make me wait for an hour when the games are over
19:02:58 <Mort-> I think we will have possibly shaken monsters around
19:03:03 <Ballig> I'm not crashing at anyone's place
19:03:22 <Ballig> Mort-: what's enforcer?
19:04:09 <Ballig> Mort-: also, that's legit. you would expect to get a half decent spell when you've used a metamagic feat on it
19:04:18 <Mort-> d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/enforcer-combat
19:04:29 <Mort-> Ill skip rime
19:04:55 <Ballig> I wouldn't allow enforcer to be triggered on that
19:05:01 <Ballig> that's whenever you do nonlethal damage with a melee weapon
19:05:01 <Mort-> I'm not interested in the whole etangle story
19:05:19 <Ballig> I do not count casting a touch spell through a weapon, where the touch spell does nonlethal damage, as the weapon dealing nonlethal damage
19:05:35 <Mort-> I used a melee weapon to deliver uh frostbite (non lethal)
19:05:37 <Mort-> Lol
19:05:41 <Ballig> doesn't matter, I wouldn't allow it
19:05:55 <Mort-> K time to hammer stuff like that out lol
19:06:18 <Ballig> I'd be surprised if any GM would allow that, it's clearly against the spirit of the feat even if you interpreted it in your favour (which I don't, to begin with)
19:06:37 <Avatar> if the spell does nonlethal, you'd be dealing lethal weapon damage and non-lethal spell damage
19:06:59 <Ballig> yes
19:07:00 <Ballig> exactly
19:07:09 <Ballig> and enforcer requires you to deal nonlethal damage with the /weapon/
19:07:15 <Ballig> like smacking someone on the head with the flat of your blade
19:07:23 <Mort-> Uh i did but its uh the spell
19:07:27 <Ballig> no
19:07:32 <Ballig> you dealt lethal damage with the weapon
19:07:35 <Mort-> Ill never take blade of mercy heh
19:07:37 <Ballig> and non-lethal cold damage with the spell
19:08:12 <Ballig> would be a decent feat to take with blade of mercy, though
19:08:36 <Mort-> No
19:08:37 <Ballig> blade of mercy, enforcer, stack up on intimidate
19:08:42 <Mort-> I don't wish to do that
19:08:47 <Ballig> I'm aware of that
19:08:55 <Mort-> :d
19:09:28 <Spaceshot> Mort-: don't look at guides
19:09:33 <Ballig> whoever you are getting your ideas from on that forum is an idiot, just fyi
19:09:48 <Spaceshot> they don't help you but either confuse you, or make your character average by a DM not allowing something
19:09:52 <Mort-> Oh but its more then one idiot saying that
19:09:54 <Mort-> :d
19:09:58 <Spaceshot> just look at stuff yourself, and think if it makes sense
19:10:02 <Spaceshot> and if you're confused, ask
19:10:03 <Ballig> then there is more than one idiot
19:10:09 <Avatar> does it make sense to you mort
19:10:21 <Mort-> That's the point of this whole conversation
19:10:24 <Mort-> Duh!
19:10:33 <Avatar> what?
19:10:40 <Spaceshot> does it make sense?
19:10:45 <Avatar> does it make sense to you or not
19:10:50 <Avatar> nobody else is going to decide that
19:10:50 <Spaceshot> reading spellstrike/spell combat again, does it make sense?
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19:11:01 <Avatar> TO YOU is the important part
19:11:05 <Avatar> to mort
19:11:24 <Spaceshot> because if it makes sense to you, then you have a better time trying to get it to make sense to a GM who is confused or unsure
19:11:39 <Mort-> Well if someone says it can be done
19:11:50 <Spaceshot> so?
19:11:53 <Mort-> Ill walk in here and ask if it can be done ^^
19:11:54 <Avatar> it still has to make sense to you first
19:11:59 <Avatar> otherwise the guides are going to sting you
19:12:03 <Spaceshot> I bet someone said that they could lift a building up with their pinky finger
19:12:15 <Spaceshot> doesn't mean they're correct or it made sense
19:12:20 <Mort-> Oh yes we should try it :d
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19:12:59 <Ballig> Mort-: that wastes everyone's time
19:13:08 <Ballig> people will say any old shit can be done, if they think they can get away with it
19:13:29 <Mort-> The problem is that a couple of people do think it can be
19:13:31 <Mort-> Mph
19:13:35 <Mort-> Ill dig
19:13:40 <Avatar> you need to think it can be
19:13:45 <Ballig> just because a few idiots stick together doesn't make what they say is right
19:14:02 <Spaceshot> people have been doing that for thousands of years
19:14:07 <Spaceshot> think about religion XD
19:14:21 <Spaceshot> (hoping no one is really religious here)
19:14:49 <Ballig> mort is from a religious country
19:15:21 <Spaceshot> I believe gamers have a more logical understanding of religion
19:15:29 <Spaceshot> belief or not
19:15:38 <Avatar> let's not turn this into religious debate
19:16:04 <Spaceshot> don't want to
19:16:11 <Spaceshot> was just putting out a very reasonable analogy
19:17:46 <Ballig> that magus at my table on Monday that I mentioned earlier tried to argue that agnostic means you believe in a god but choose not to worship
19:17:58 <Brunius> Anyone feel like helping me win a competition?
19:18:15 <Spaceshot> depending on the skills required, but I'll lend my hand where possible
19:18:16 <Spaceshot> shoot
19:18:38 <Spaceshot> also, ballig you have an IRL table?
19:19:02 <Brunius> Just go to http://100k.fnatic.com/ref/cJysb9y2 and answer the questions
19:19:05 <Ballig> I was playing over the weekend just gone
19:19:12 <Ballig> is that a virus
19:19:16 <Brunius> Answers are 2004, letters and Counter Strike
19:19:34 <Spaceshot> that is a questionable url
19:19:39 <Spaceshot> very very questionable
19:19:58 <Avatar> Brunius: what do we get out of it
19:20:07 <Brunius> An entry into the competition !
19:20:16 <Ballig> is this some online competition thing
19:20:19 <Ballig> where you can "win a free ipod"
19:20:30 <Spaceshot> clearly
19:20:41 <Brunius> You can win gaming gear
19:20:42 <Spaceshot> all you need to do is give them your social security number and bank details
19:20:44 <Spaceshot> :P
19:20:53 <Ballig> or spam friends with their ad-laden pages :p
19:20:53 <Brunius> Since I'm a poor high school student, this appeals to me
19:21:00 <Brunius> Is it ad-laden?
19:21:05 <Brunius> I didn't notice, I'm using firefox.
19:21:18 <Ballig> I didn't go to it
19:21:28 <Spaceshot> not really
19:21:34 <Avatar> yeah it asks for personal details
19:21:36 <Spaceshot> but it's from a tool of a group
19:21:44 <Spaceshot> who the fuck sponsors a CS team
19:21:45 <Spaceshot> seriously
19:21:50 <Avatar> and in the end, you have less chance to win than brunius does
19:21:52 <Spaceshot> there are so many better games to sponsor
19:22:02 <Brunius> Avatar: You bug your friends
19:22:09 <Brunius> And get more chance to win than Brunius does !
19:22:35 <Brunius> Nah I'm not really fussed
19:22:38 <Spaceshot> or, or, or your just a wanker that wasted 20seconds of my time to do nothing than use me
19:22:52 <Brunius> 'cos you've never ever wasted any of my time.
19:22:57 <Avatar> so basically you want us to help you by spamming us
19:23:05 <Brunius> Absolutely !
19:23:07 <Avatar> and get others to help us by spamming our friends
19:23:11 <Brunius> Absolutely !
19:23:12 <Avatar> you need a better sales pitch man
19:23:15 <Brunius> Probably.
19:23:24 <Brunius> Like I said, I'm not really fussed
19:23:49 <Ballig> it's a pretty decent way to advertise
19:23:53 <Ballig> maybe I should start a survey
19:24:00 <Avatar> Spaceshot: to be fair, you "used me" for a lift to RPT
19:24:02 <Spaceshot> all I'm hearing is either ponsy scheme or pyramid scheme
19:24:17 <Ballig> it will have one question - "Where is the best place to play online PFS?" and the answer will be "http://dnd.ballig.net"
19:24:18 <Avatar> people "use each other" all the time for many great benefits
19:24:18 <Spaceshot> Avatar: that may be true, but I did say I would have gone anyway
19:24:22 <Ballig> and I will offer up like a free ipod or something
19:24:26 <Ballig> one of those $50 ones
19:24:27 <Spaceshot> and you said you were happy to do so
19:26:53 <Spaceshot> but anywho, if I can pay for it, I'm going for the "you'll have no idea what the fuck you are doing on monday, but for some reason are still playing" package for conquest
19:27:53 <Brunius> what
19:28:02 <Spaceshot> the get wrecked deal
19:28:22 <Brunius> ah
19:28:27 <Spaceshot> I need to catch up my xp somehow
19:28:35 <Spaceshot> and I should bring as many characters as I can right?
19:28:40 <Brunius> I don't see any sessions up for conquest yet
19:28:42 <Avatar> right
19:28:44 <Brunius> Nobody else does?
19:28:48 <Avatar> they're there
19:28:51 <Brunius> Oh, there it is
19:28:52 <Brunius> derp
19:28:54 <Spaceshot> are you using AON brunius?
19:28:54 <Spaceshot> XD
19:28:59 <Spaceshot> yea they're a bit hidden
19:28:59 <Brunius> Was clicking the wrong button the whole time
19:29:06 <Avatar> I thought you said you already reg'd
19:29:08 <Spaceshot> when do I have to pay? when I book or on the day?
19:29:18 <Spaceshot> I reg'd name last week
19:29:19 <Spaceshot> :P
19:29:24 <Brunius> I am already reg'd man
19:29:26 <Avatar> on the day
19:29:29 <Brunius> Attendee #64
19:29:35 <Avatar> so you know it's there yo
19:29:46 <Brunius> Not quite
19:29:57 <Brunius> You don't have to sign up to games as soon as you register
19:30:13 <Spaceshot> I'm 185
19:31:07 <Brunius> The descriptions for events aren't up anywhere are they?
19:31:54 <Spaceshot> for specific modules being run I don't think so
19:32:00 <Spaceshot> well I couldn't find them at least
19:32:10 <Brunius> Heh, looks like I'm going for the get wrecked package too
19:32:22 <Spaceshot> heh
19:33:33 <Spaceshot> does it matter if I've only got a 3rd(maybe 4th by then) level and 2 level 1s?
19:33:42 <Brunius> Nope
19:33:51 <Avatar> it doesn't matter what you have
19:34:03 <Avatar> why would it
19:34:08 <Spaceshot> dunno
19:34:15 <Spaceshot> just checking, haven't con'd before :P
19:35:43 <Spaceshot> and supposedly it might take a while till we get out chronicle sheets right?
19:36:00 <Brunius> wut
19:36:17 <Spaceshot> I've heard bitching here about chronicle sheets taking ages because of cons before
19:36:34 <Spaceshot> or something taking ages
19:36:34 <Brunius> Never heard of it
19:36:42 <Spaceshot> something took ages because of a con
19:36:45 <Brunius> organising games typically takes ages
19:37:38 <Avatar> games don't really get started until about 30 mins later
19:37:44 <Avatar> 60 mins on a slow day
19:37:59 <Avatar> it doesn't really feel like that long
19:39:28 <Brunius> Man, how am I gonna come up with $60 before conquest
19:40:21 <Spaceshot> heh, me too
19:40:51 <Brunius> Hmm
19:41:09 <Brunius> $32 seems like the most I can come up with
19:41:27 <Ballig> start begging
19:41:29 <Ballig> begging Avatar
19:41:34 <Ballig> tell him I said it's okay if he uses some of my tax money
19:41:37 <Brunius> Avatar
19:41:44 <Brunius> Can I have $28
19:41:49 <Brunius> So I can go to conquest
19:41:57 <Brunius> Ballig says it's an authorised use of his tax money
19:43:17 <Avatar> nope
19:43:20 <Brunius> :(
19:43:22 <Avatar> it's my money now
19:43:29 <Avatar> I am keeping it
19:43:42 <Ballig> :(
19:43:47 <Avatar> :D
19:43:55 <Ballig> I am going to contact my friends at the department of human services!
19:44:02 <Ballig> and they are going to put restrictions on your payments!
19:44:07 <Avatar> no they won't
19:44:11 <Ballig> oh, they will
19:44:12 <Ballig> they will
19:44:19 <Avatar> they'll go sorry ballig we can't do that
19:45:01 <Avatar> this link mort posted before about clarifying magus is very good
19:45:03 <Avatar> the first post
19:45:06 <Ballig> that's unlikely because why would they call me ballig
19:45:14 <Brunius> Dude, what day should I come to conquest
19:45:17 <Avatar> I didn't consider spellstrike has to hit regular AC and spell combat gets to hit touch AC
19:45:22 <Brunius> Get onto snypt about this, too
19:45:24 <Avatar> any day
19:45:45 <Brunius> Am Samstag es ist.
19:46:23 <Ballig> Avatar: yeah
19:46:27 <Ballig> that's the compromise
19:46:42 <Spaceshot> meh, don't you start reading guides too avatar
19:46:42 <Ballig> if you choose to make the touch attack with your weapon, you have to hit regular AC
19:46:47 <Spaceshot> you're hopeless already as it is XD
19:47:08 <Avatar> Spaceshot: throw your negative garbage elsewhere
19:47:42 <Spaceshot> how is it negative to go through the book yourself so that it makes sense to you rather than reading what someone said is supposedly legal and supposedly works and using that as your basis?
19:47:52 <Mort-> Yes you do
19:48:00 <Avatar> this clarifies it
19:48:00 <Mort-> Sometimes its just better to touch
19:48:02 <Mort-> Anyway
19:48:12 <Avatar> it's like an FAQ
19:48:31 <Avatar> it's negative to say "you're hopeless"
19:48:51 <Spaceshot> bah, sorry you can't take XD as being a joking face
19:48:55 <Spaceshot> GEEZ
19:48:58 <Spaceshot> SORRY PRECIOUS SNOW FLAKE
19:49:25 <Mort-> I have no book :d
19:49:46 <Spaceshot> Mort-: it's better to use a PDF than the SRD
19:49:54 <Spaceshot> even if the PDF might lag, it's still better
19:55:50 <Avatar> do you have the PDF SRD
19:55:59 <Avatar> I use that instead of the proper book
19:56:54 <Mort-> Pdf srd. Wats dat?
19:58:33 <Avatar> go to the getting started page
19:58:46 <Avatar> under the rules of pathfinder, look at the second link, a free PDF
20:01:42 <Mort-> Ohs
20:01:48 <Mort-> Time to go !
20:02:04 <Avatar> what's ohs
20:02:08 <Mort-> Ive been doing weight lifting today
20:02:10 <Mort-> !
20:02:17 <Mort-> im bushed
20:02:24 <Avatar> did you find it
20:02:40 <Mort-> Why havent you nice hunks out there
20:02:47 <Mort-> Helped me with it
20:03:48 <Spaceshot> she clearly doesn't know us very well :P
20:04:55 <Avatar> what are you talking about
20:04:55 <Spaceshot> I think most of us are lanky
20:05:03 <Avatar> speak for yourself
20:05:14 <Spaceshot> you're so lanky :P
20:05:54 <Mort-> Dude
20:06:00 <Mort-> I'm 5'1
20:06:06 <Mort-> 110 lbs
20:06:17 <Mort-> Yes I'm a gnome in real life.
20:06:20 <Mort-> Happy?
20:06:28 <Avatar> gnomes are 3ft
20:06:33 <Avatar> so you are actually not a gnome
20:06:34 * Mort- is just irritated
20:06:41 <Mort-> Close
20:06:41 <Avatar> you're human, of course
20:06:52 <Mort-> And me being that small
20:07:08 <Mort-> And having big boxes to haul around
20:07:38 <Mort-> You guys should feel ashamed of yourselves
20:07:43 <Mort-> Gah
20:08:00 <Mort-> I think i bumped my knee
20:08:48 <Mort-> Strained my arms
20:10:23 <Spaceshot> who uses pounds?
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20:10:40 <Spaceshot> I'm 6ft, and like 57ish kg
20:11:29 <Spaceshot> I'm underweight :P
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20:14:42 <Avatar> Ballig: what tablet did you get
20:14:49 <Avatar> galaxy tab 10.1" ?
20:14:52 <Ballig> samsung galaxy tab 10.1
20:15:23 <Avatar> apparently I can get one of those free with my reward points
20:15:32 <Ballig> can you buy food with your reward points
20:15:38 <Avatar> no
20:15:40 <Ballig> oh
20:15:42 <Avatar> that was the first thing I looked for
20:15:58 <Avatar> well, maybe, at a westfield
20:16:12 <Avatar> my brother worked at westpac and I think he told me gift vouchers are the best thing to get with them
20:16:43 <Ballig> yeah westfield gift vouchers can be used in almost any store in the centre, right?
20:18:05 <Avatar> not accepted at coles, myer, safeway
20:18:12 <Ballig> gay
20:18:14 <Avatar> or any of their related entities
20:18:18 <Avatar> k-mart is ok
20:18:29 <Avatar> I have like 160000 points
20:18:37 <Avatar> it's 9600 for a $50 voucher
20:19:04 <Avatar> or 44785 for a $200
20:19:17 <Avatar> sorry, $250
20:20:07 <Avatar> so I've got about $900 worth of free shit
20:22:09 <Ballig> you should get a tablet
20:22:12 <Ballig> look at the awesome drawings I can do
20:22:18 <Avatar> I know! I'm jealous
20:22:23 <Avatar> I actually think it's cheating
20:22:38 <Ballig> haha
20:22:49 <Ballig> or, is the game designed for tablet and you are just unnecessarily handicapping yourself?
20:23:36 <Avatar> it's a mystery
20:28:50 <Spaceshot> heh
20:28:57 <Spaceshot> when I get my galaxy note I'll know the true answer
20:29:02 <Spaceshot> it comes with a stylus
20:29:17 <Avatar> the galaxy tab is 126000 points
20:29:18 <Ballig> I find styluses to be annoying
20:29:25 <Ballig> 7.7 or 10.1?
20:29:28 <Avatar> 10.1
20:29:31 <Avatar> 16gb, 3g
20:29:37 <Ballig> yeah that's what I got
20:29:44 <Avatar> how much did you pay
20:29:50 <Ballig> ~630
20:31:33 <Avatar> seems a ripoff to use reward points for it
20:32:49 <Ballig> ha
20:32:53 <Spaceshot> heh
20:33:34 <Avatar> is my math off
20:33:37 <Avatar> it doesn't work out does it
20:33:45 * Mort- takes a nap
20:34:04 <Spaceshot> no it doesn't
20:34:08 <Ballig> it's pretty close
20:34:14 <Spaceshot> but avatar, did you get this points by working for them?
20:34:19 <Spaceshot> or were they a free bonus on buying stuff?
20:34:21 <Ballig> 650/50*9600=124800
20:34:42 <Avatar> free bonus for buying stuff
20:34:48 <Spaceshot> so it doesn't matter if it works out
20:34:55 <Spaceshot> you get a free galaxy tab :P
20:34:58 <Avatar> well it matters where I spend them
20:35:05 <Avatar> could be more value spending them elsewhere
20:37:48 <Spaceshot> do you think you'd end up saving for a galaxy tab with the money you get from buying gift cards?
20:38:00 <Spaceshot> money you save from getting gift cards*
20:38:06 <Avatar> that wasn't my thinking, but that could wor
20:38:07 <Avatar> k
20:38:25 <Avatar> I meant just to buy other shit I need, I would use reward points on gift vouchers
20:38:32 <Avatar> and then use real money with money saved to get a tab
20:38:44 <Avatar> I don't really want a tablet, so this is all just an experiment really
20:40:10 <Ballig> yeah don't use it on a tablet if you don't want one, obv
20:40:34 <Avatar> I'd probably get it if CA was on it !
20:43:02 <Spaceshot> CA could be on it if you want to program a java version
20:43:04 <Ballig> I don't think a tablet has a big enough screen to be used at a real table
20:43:14 <Spaceshot> it could be as a CA table
20:43:28 <Spaceshot> using a large map is an issue though
20:43:38 <Avatar> the idea is everyone has a screen
20:44:52 <Avatar> apparently heart of the swarm is going to remove the protoss mothership and carrier units
20:45:20 <Avatar> I don't feel very good about them removing the carrier
20:46:02 <Spaceshot> do you even play that game anymore?
20:46:15 <Spaceshot> why remove units anyway?
20:46:17 <Ballig> if everyone had a tablet or laptop, sure. but would they?
20:46:47 <Avatar> in person probably not
20:46:50 <Avatar> like probably not even in the future
20:46:55 <Ballig> that'd be a pretty cool idea for a dedicated gaming table, though
20:46:56 <Avatar> but it'll allow people to play portably
20:47:04 <Ballig> a table that has 7 screens on the side of it
20:47:09 <Avatar> yeah
20:47:15 <Avatar> patent that quick
20:47:27 <Spaceshot> so like a gamen + tablets?
20:47:48 <Ballig> the screens (for the players) would probably just be clones of whatever is on the GM screen, maybe
20:48:11 <Spaceshot> ooo, also make it so that the table has projectors so it's like a virtual map
20:48:31 <Ballig> I don't know that projectors would be that great
20:48:45 <Ballig> a dedicated gaming table in itself would be a hard sell
20:49:52 <Avatar> yeah, that wouldn't really sell would it
20:50:04 <Avatar> why not just use stands or, hell, nothing
20:50:52 <Ballig> the way to do it properly would be an ultraportable screen
20:51:03 <Ballig> with the flexibility of cloth or a regular gaming map
20:52:32 <Spaceshot> so like a super amoled mat?
20:53:50 <Ballig> isn't super amoled used on mobile phones
20:54:18 <Ballig> I'm not certain that's flexible/portable enough
20:54:26 <Ballig> (it's portable at small sizes, obv, just not at the size that you'd need)
20:55:46 <Spaceshot> super amoled is a flexy screen
20:55:49 <Spaceshot> there are videos about it
20:55:58 <Ballig> yeah I've seen them, I don't think it's flexible enough
20:56:03 <Ballig> like you couldn't fold it up
20:59:47 <Mort-> Mmph :p
20:59:53 * Mort- ponders
21:00:00 * Mort- ponders more
21:00:38 * Mort- gives her best evil vilian laugh
21:01:59 <Mort-> I love stupid bru paladins :p
21:02:38 <Spaceshot> maybe it's not amoled I'm thinking about then
21:02:46 <Spaceshot> there is a phone screen type that is super flexy
21:03:06 <Mort-> Got bluffed by a witch lol
21:03:07 * Mort- starts pondering evil vile arts
21:04:18 <Mort-> Snow covered ground. Drat it!
21:05:30 <Mort-> It would be funny if i could carry it out though
21:13:21 <Mort-> So few!
21:14:21 <Mort-> Argh i need an ice box
21:16:30 <Mort-> Oh my god^^
21:16:47 * Mort- gives an evil evil evil laugh
21:19:40 <Mort-> Mekkis you there? :p
21:20:17 <Avatar> mort you say a lot of things that don't make any sense
21:24:57 <Mort-> Its ok
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21:25:08 <Mort-> Lol
21:25:23 <Mort-> I'm thinking of ways to have fun fun fun!
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21:27:40 <Mort-> Oh shit what a pain in the arse!
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23:54:43 <Mekkis> hey mort-!
23:55:55 <mort-> Hi
23:58:06 <Mekkis> Ballig, I'm paying like, $360 for accommodation