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54:27 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 1pm (Avatar, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
54:27 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Mar 18 18:10:51 2012
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31:49 <Time_Machine> any of you guys members of SomethingAwful.com?
34:07 <Spaceshot> lol goon
34:38 <Spaceshot> I'm not, but I know of them a lot
34:46 <Spaceshot> as bad as chan-ers
35:47 <Time_Machine> nah bro, we better than that
36:01 <Spaceshot> lies
36:05 <Spaceshot> you're goons
36:11 <Spaceshot> goons are as bad as anon
36:12 <Spaceshot> :P
36:25 <Spaceshot> actually, I think goons made anon
36:30 <Time_Machine> yes.
36:40 <Time_Machine> but goons are more heavily moderated
37:00 <Spaceshot> heh
37:21 <Time_Machine> I'm reading a thread now
37:47 <Spaceshot> I still remember goon squad in EVE infiltrating BoB and getting leadership of it, disbanding it, and then some goon with an alt making a new BoB corp
37:52 <Spaceshot> so they couldn't use the name
37:53 <Time_Machine> about notable tabletop gaming experiences
38:03 <Spaceshot> and shit hit the fan
38:30 <Time_Machine> would you like to read it? some of the stories are fun
38:51 <Spaceshot> and under the gaming forums of goons, was there constant katawa shoujo threads/posts about a month ago?
40:17 <Time_Machine> haven't a clue. how do you know so much
40:34 <Spaceshot> because I frequent many many sites
40:40 <Spaceshot> most of them anime based
40:42 <Spaceshot> :P
41:08 <Spaceshot> but yea, I know goons, they're the cocks of the interwebs :P
41:24 <Time_Machine> We're the best.
41:36 <Time_Machine> *crosses arms*
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41:53 <Mort-> Hi!
42:03 <Time_Machine> hi!
42:18 <Spaceshot> mort, this kid's a goon
42:20 <Spaceshot> :P
42:27 <Mort-> Oh?
42:43 <Spaceshot> guess you don't know what a goon is, nevermind it then
42:44 <Spaceshot> :P
42:46 * Mort- stares at time machine
43:15 * Mort- nibbles hydrazine
43:33 <Mort-> And mr time machine
43:40 <Mort-> Where were you all weekend
43:45 <Time_Machine> drunk
43:48 <Mort-> When we had a party :p
43:50 <Mort-> Don't
44:04 <Mort-> Or you can do it like me
44:09 <Hydrazine> ?
44:12 <Mort-> Show up here hungover
44:16 <Time_Machine> I had my own party on Nantucket
44:23 <Hydrazine> Sup?
44:33 * Mort- smacks hydra on his nose
44:48 <Mort-> I heard from mek you have been a bad boy
45:35 <Mort-> Other side. Love talk is to be done in private
46:09 <Spaceshot> stop being so secretive mort
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46:35 <Mort-> Stop being so nosey ^^
46:50 * Mort- slaps spaceshot on his nose
47:10 * Spaceshot chalkboards mort
47:20 <Mort-> What's that?
47:34 <Spaceshot> ava's chalkboard
47:39 <Mort-> Oh
47:49 <Spaceshot> :P
47:57 <Mort-> You smacked me on my nose:(
48:14 * Mort- wails loudly
48:41 <Spaceshot> anywho, not sure if I want to make a wizzy or a sorc
48:48 <Spaceshot> for my blaster
49:02 <Mort-> Sorb
49:04 <Mort-> C
49:48 <Mort-> I didn't say i didn't know how the game was played
50:04 <Mort-> Just that i don't play ill
50:05 <Mort-> It
51:00 <Hydrazine> make a sorb!
53:36 <Spaceshot> I would love to make a sorb, but aren't they banned in PFS? XD
54:22 <Mort-> It means we cant spell
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53:44 <Spaceshot> sweet, time to cheese up a sorc
54:54 <Spaceshot> time to halfling cheese it up :P
55:06 <Spaceshot> halfing sorc riding on a roc zapping shit
55:07 <Spaceshot> :P
57:39 <Mort-> You can't ride a roc
57:43 <Spaceshot> sure I can
57:45 <Mort-> Go druid first
57:50 <Spaceshot> nope, don't need to
57:53 <Spaceshot> you'll see
58:27 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/archetypes/paizo---sorcerer-archetypes/wildblooded/sylvan
58:37 <Spaceshot> isn't limited to shitty animals :P
58:47 <Mort-> Ah have fun
59:04 <Spaceshot> air born zapper sounds like fun
59:04 <Spaceshot> :P
59:13 <Spaceshot> cause rocs are fair and balanced
59:47 <Mort-> That's funny
59:55 <Mort-> Bring a ranged weapon
59:59 <Mort-> While your at it
00:06 <Mort-> Just in case you run out of spells
00:10 <Spaceshot> tis the plan
00:17 <Mort-> Yeah
00:23 <Spaceshot> probably a sling of some sort :P
00:32 <Mort-> Use a bow?
00:36 <Mort-> Please? :p
00:57 <Spaceshot> I'm a halfling sorc
01:03 <Spaceshot> they don't get bow training, might get a crossbow
01:04 <Mort-> Works
01:12 <Mort-> Up to you
01:27 <Spaceshot> or it's screw it, go half-elf and just cheese up the damage with a beatstick pet
01:28 <Spaceshot> :P
01:31 <Spaceshot> I dunno yet
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15:16 <Spaceshot> I have an assignment to do a retro game (in the 80s) and I've got 7 weeks to do it in
15:23 <Spaceshot> I'm thinking wasteland, but are there any better choices?
15:41 <Mekkis> rogue
16:29 <Spaceshot> besides rogue?
16:29 <Spaceshot> :P
16:32 <Mekkis> hack
16:45 <Mekkis> you can still get hack v1.21
17:21 <Spaceshot> if by hack you mean nethack, that's still rogue
17:37 <Mekkis> from rogue begat hack
17:41 <Mekkis> from hack begat nethack
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18:20 <Spaceshot> close enough
18:23 <Spaceshot> same shit to me
19:02 <Mekkis> PDP-11 Hack was published on Usenet in February 1985, and a port of this to a Unix clone called PC/IX was published in May.
19:22 <Mekkis> you should do that one
19:31 <Mekkis> I mean, it's one game that's still played today
19:34 <Spaceshot> I don't believe you realise I don't care about rogue/hack/nethack, or anything extremely similar to either of them
19:43 <Mekkis> this is an assignment
20:19 <Spaceshot> yes, but if I only wanted to make the game for assignment purposes I'd go with asteriods
20:24 <Spaceshot> asteroids*
20:35 <Mekkis> make?
20:49 <Mekkis> wasn't asteroids pre-80s?
20:55 <Spaceshot> it's retro
21:19 <Hydrazine> Original Zelda.
21:27 <Spaceshot> heh
21:34 <Spaceshot> see, now hydra's on the ball
21:45 <Spaceshot> I want something that I'd want to expand on after the assignment
21:53 <Hydrazine> Master Blaster. Eat my boot if anyone even remembers that.
21:54 <Spaceshot> not just do it because of the assignment
22:27 <Mekkis> what about dnd for the PLATO?
23:06 <Mekkis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnd_%28video_game%29
23:56 <Avatar-> blaster master
24:05 <Mekkis> avatar
24:14 <Avatar-> yo
24:21 <Mekkis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%28video_game%29
26:09 <Avatar-> is that any good
26:15 <Avatar-> not my game
26:17 <Mekkis> no idea
28:07 <Spaceshot> I'm thinking either an RPG or a turn based game
28:12 <Mekkis> yeah
28:17 <Mekkis> dnd for PLATO
28:22 <Mekkis> turn-based RPG
28:37 <Hydrazine> HoMM!
28:49 <Spaceshot> or I could do dnd for com64
28:52 <Mekkis> HoMM isn't retro
28:58 <Spaceshot> you know, a system where more than 2 people have played
29:17 <Mekkis> dnd was the father of all the other RPGs!
29:52 <Mort-> Heroes of might and magic 6?
31:16 <MekkisScreen> Nethack
31:31 <MekkisScreen> it's the father of diablo
31:35 <Spaceshot> been there, passed that
34:37 <MekkisScreen> you're not thinking retro
34:43 <MekkisScreen> you're thinking pre-postmodern
34:56 <MekkisScreen> ET for the Atari 2600
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38:48 <Spaceshot> they're calling it retro, not me
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51:16 <Avatar-> :o)
52:08 <Spaceshot> bah, can't decide if I want to finish making Gol, or make my blaster
53:41 <Mort-> Ill stick with my characters
05:25 <Spaceshot> crossbows don't get negative damage to it if you have low str right?
05:47 <Mort-> I think range weapon foot
05:49 <Mort-> FootDon't
05:59 <Mort-> But reloading them is a pain
08:07 <Avatar> reloading is fine with rapid reload
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11:10 <Spaceshot> do ranged touch attacks gain the bonuses from point blank shot and all those?
11:36 <Mort-> Yes
11:53 <Mort-> If you want a master of touch combat
12:01 <Mort-> Go talk to a magus
12:12 <Spaceshot> magus doesn't get roc
12:13 <Spaceshot> :P
12:21 <Mort-> Medium bab - those strength ones have decent str
12:30 <Mort-> They get close range
12:43 <Mort-> So their rays can be held as charges
13:18 <Spaceshot> mort, didn't we already talk to you about holding charges with spellcombat?
13:18 <Mort-> And yes they can fly
13:33 <Mort-> Its a melee charge thing
13:42 <Mort-> I convert range charge into melee
13:49 <Mort-> So its a melee thing?
13:58 <Spaceshot> I think you're also confusing yourself now
14:07 <Spaceshot> you can turn a ranged touch attack spell into a touch attack spell
14:09 <Spaceshot> that is all
14:51 <Mort-> Benefit: The magus can deliver ray spells that feature a ranged touch attack as melee touch spells.
14:58 <Spaceshot> yes
15:16 <Mort-> Melee touch spells you hold the charge if it isn't taken out?
15:36 <Spaceshot> read it properly
15:37 <Mort-> One of these days I'm not going to keep quiet on pazio boards
15:39 <Spaceshot> it doesn't convert it
15:41 <Mort-> And drop it all
16:01 <Spaceshot> it means you can use the ray spell as if it's a melee touch spell
16:07 <Spaceshot> it doesn't change it into a melee touch spell
16:24 <Spaceshot> basically, you can scorching ray them at melee range
16:29 <Spaceshot> as a melee touch spell
16:37 <Mort-> I know ill take only one of them
16:38 <Spaceshot> you can't hold a scorching ray charge
16:41 <Mort-> That's fair
16:58 <Mort-> If it hits yes of course its gone
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17:05 <Mort-> But if it misses?
17:11 <Spaceshot> it's still gone
17:14 <Mort-> One day ill go to the boards on it
17:19 <Mort-> We will see
17:19 <Spaceshot> because it's not a melee touch attack spell
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19:29 <Mort-> Ill dig
20:29 <Spaceshot> what part is confusing you?
22:18 <Mort-> paizo.com/forums/dmtz3e45?Close-Range-question#0
22:25 <Mort-> Shoo!
22:46 * Mort- has ruffled fur
30:09 <Avatar> you don't have fur
32:31 <Mort-> I have fur!
32:37 <Mort-> I am a lemur!
35:15 <Spaceshot> bah... so many average archetypes for arcane casters
36:08 <Avatar> spellcasters get a lot of options by default
36:26 <Spaceshot> not really
36:35 <Spaceshot> the spell casters in APG do
36:43 <Spaceshot> but the base ones are a bit bland to begin with
36:57 <Spaceshot> and also, inquisitor looks like the worst class ever
37:11 <Spaceshot> I'd prefer playing a 3.0 bard over it
37:17 <Avatar> spellcasters have spell lists
37:40 <Spaceshot> so?
37:40 <Avatar> yeah I don't understand inquisitor
37:46 <Avatar> canine seems to play it decently
38:02 <Spaceshot> oracle's get revelations, witches get hexes
38:05 <Spaceshot> and they're both full casters
38:34 <Spaceshot> sorcs get average bloodlines
38:45 <Spaceshot> and wizards get average specialist powers
38:48 <Mort-> I might try it sometime myself
38:50 <Mort-> Anyway
38:52 <Spaceshot> cleric gets domain crap
39:00 <Mort-> But that is a story for another time
39:04 <Spaceshot> and druid is just a broken class that should be turned into 2 different classes :P
39:16 <Hydrazine_> I thought inquisitor looked overall rather weak, too.
39:27 <Spaceshot> I like the idea of a witch hunter
39:37 <Spaceshot> but there is no anti spell caster abilities at all in it
39:47 <Spaceshot> it just seems like a nerfed paladin to me
40:08 <Hydrazine_> Well, Space, I think of wizards as being like the Fighter of magic. Sure you don't get anything particularly special, but you can pick the kind of magic you want to do and be REALLY good with it.
40:24 <Spaceshot> yea, but fighters get awesome archetypes
40:27 <Spaceshot> in APG and UM
40:31 <Spaceshot> UC*
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40:34 <Spaceshot> wizards get squat
40:56 <Avatar> wizards get spells
40:59 <Brunius> Hows it going folks
41:01 <Spaceshot> meh
41:12 <Avatar> it sounds like you just don't want to play what it is :P
41:13 <Spaceshot> spells are overrated
41:14 <Hydrazine_> Wizards get alot of spells.
41:19 <Hydrazine_> And bonus feats to deal with spells.
41:38 <Avatar> it's like saying you want to play a fighter, but not one that uses weapons
41:51 <Brunius> Seems logical.
41:58 <Spaceshot> martial artist fighter is cool
42:05 <Spaceshot> I think there's an archetype for that
42:07 <Brunius> I wonder if I can get xchat and mIRC to save to the same logs.
42:08 <Brunius> There is
42:10 <Brunius> in UC
42:12 <Hydrazine_> There is an archetype for that.
42:13 <Avatar> or your fists
42:16 <Spaceshot> exactly
42:18 <Hydrazine_> But I don't think it makes it worth it over monk.
42:23 <Brunius> It's imaginatively named "Unarmed Fighter"
42:59 <Spaceshot> it's good for being a maneveur fighter without specifically specialising in one
43:58 <Hydrazine_> I was thinking unarmed fighter might be worth a damn if he got to wear heavy armor with it..
43:59 <Hydrazine_> but no.
44:09 <Spaceshot> the only archetype wizards get is bomber
44:10 <Brunius> He gets nerfed to light armour, doesn't he?
44:13 <Hydrazine_> yep.
44:18 <Brunius> They get three, Spaceshot.
44:32 <MekkisScreen> 22.1. Experiments with Black Fiber
44:33 <MekkisScreen> Attempting to push the speed-of-light limitation by means of using black fiber looked promising at first.  Shortly after initiating the experiment, lack of light was detected in the black fiber.  This was interpreted as proof of successful data transmission faster than the speed of light.  After popping the champagne, the following problems were detected:
44:36 <Brunius> Simply because two of them aren't Pathfinder Society legal, doesn't mean they don't exist.
44:37 <MekkisScreen> 1.  No data reached the receiver. 2.  The fiber was not connected at the transmitting side.
44:41 <MekkisScreen> This clearly spoiled the mood of the party.
44:43 <Spaceshot> heh
44:52 <Brunius> ha
45:05 <Spaceshot> thanks mekkis, always with context
46:14 <Spaceshot> wizards and sorcs don't really differ themselves
46:23 <Spaceshot> sure someone will make the claim I'm wrong
46:24 <Brunius> sorcs can spam more.
46:29 <Brunius> wizards get more spells.
46:41 <Spaceshot> no I mean wizard A and wizard B aren't that different from each other and the same with sorcs
47:29 <Hydrazine_> Saying someone will claim you're wrong.. Its like you're telling us we're not supposed to?
47:42 <Spaceshot> no it's more of I'm expecting it
47:58 <Hydrazine_> I know one of you bastards is gonna tell me I'm wrong, but, the grass is definately pink.
48:02 <Brunius> whereas with power attacking fighters you get so much difference.
48:03 <Spaceshot> :P
48:17 <Mort-> The grass is pink!
48:25 <Spaceshot> brunius, that's the thing, power attacking fighters isn't just fighter
48:31 <Spaceshot> fighter doesn't even need to touch power attack
48:34 <Mort-> I just spilt pink paint on it duh!
48:59 <Spaceshot> combat reflexes + trip feats is a funny fighter
49:08 <Brunius> But underused.
49:17 <Spaceshot> sure is underused
49:21 <Brunius> I'm sure there are underused wizard builds, tool.
49:25 <Brunius> too*
49:39 <Spaceshot> but a wizard build is only based on his spells
49:52 <Spaceshot> which can eventually be taken by all wizards
50:03 <Spaceshot> feats aren't as awesome as they were in 3.5 for wizards
50:32 <Spaceshot> no reserve feats
50:43 <Spaceshot> no prestige classes for each speciality
51:17 <Spaceshot> there are like 3 or 4 prestige classes a wizard can easily get to solo
51:34 <Spaceshot> not including arcane archer (because seriously, that's too high level for a solo wiz to get into in PFS)
51:44 <Brunius> Pathfinder Society =/= Pathfdiner
51:55 <Brunius> jesus
51:59 <Brunius> what's up with my typing today
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52:38 <Spaceshot> yes I know brunius, but I'm talking about Pathfinder Society because that's all that's been played here for the last year and a half
52:41 <MekkisScreen> in other words, Spaceshot's annoyed that they removed all the obviously powerful things that a wizard could take
52:53 <Spaceshot> what? I don't care for power
53:06 <Brunius> That's what I'm reading, MekkisScreen 
53:14 <Spaceshot> fuck it
54:36 <Hydrazine_> Hm. I think its more that.. He wants something about wizards to stand out.
54:59 <Hydrazine_> something that looks cool besides 'oh, i can cast this spell with this metamagic'
55:40 <Spaceshot> wow, someone who isn't a dickhead
55:41 <Spaceshot> :P
55:59 <Spaceshot> and yes, there is fuck all a wizard can do to stand out, without multiclassing like a bitch
56:14 <MekkisScreen> given that you dropped out of the last non-PFS pathfinder game that I ran here, even when I was allowing that sort ofthing
56:24 <Hydrazine_> i think i get it. I mean, I made Hokubi because the idea of this god-awesome wrestler sounded cool.
57:13 <Spaceshot> I made ava mainly to prove to mekkis that a healbot is useful
57:22 <Spaceshot> well, prove mekkis wrong
57:22 <MekkisScreen> oh
57:24 <Brunius> If you want them to be individual, I see that. That's why I don't want my gunslinger to be run of the mill. But what I see above is "hey guys, they nerfed wizards soooo much in PF, QQ"
57:28 <Spaceshot> don't really care if he notices or not :P
57:39 <Spaceshot> what?
57:40 <MekkisScreen> I thought you made Ava to piss me off me by making a deaf oracle
58:25 <Spaceshot> I couldn't be assed if wizards were at the power level of 3.0bards, as long as I could make a wizard that is different from other wizards, that they can't just become by getting the same spells or that 1 or 2 feats that makes me different
58:27 <Spaceshot> I'd be ok
58:31 <Spaceshot> MekkisScreen: that too XD
58:40 <Spaceshot> but I've always like the deaf oracle
59:07 <MekkisScreen> there's something wrong with you if you're investing tens of hours just to piss someone off or prove them wrong
59:25 <Spaceshot> XD
59:31 <Spaceshot> hey I'm having fun with Ava
59:33 <Spaceshot> so it's all good
59:41 <Hydrazine_> I thought about making a life oracle once.
59:54 <Hydrazine_> And then realized that what I would do with it is almost exactly ava.
00:20 <Spaceshot> the issue is, anything that I'd want to make would either require 3rd party material, 3.5 material or GM alterations
00:41 <Spaceshot> which is why it's hard for me to get motivation to make a PFS legal character
01:16 <Hydrazine_> I got to play a 3.0 psi warrior in a 3.5 game once.
01:21 <Hydrazine_> Man that bastard was brutal.
01:29 <Spaceshot> not a 3.5 psi warrior?
01:39 <Hydrazine_> Used my 3rd ed psi handbook
01:46 <Avatar> just had a phone interview
01:54 <Spaceshot> heh
01:55 <Avatar> I think I may have sounded a bit very overqualified
02:00 <Spaceshot> what for avatar?
02:11 <Avatar> customer service/sales
02:26 <Brunius> Is that being a checkout chick
02:31 <Avatar> no
02:39 <Avatar> some companies like when you have loads of skills, some don't
03:36 <Avatar> I'd sound less overqualified if one of the jobs I'd applied for that I particularly wanted would offer me an interview  !
04:49 <Spaceshot> but yea, so want to play a magic of incarnum class sometime
06:14 <Spaceshot> anywho, looking at PFS legal material for a few hrs has gotten me sick of pathfinder/dnd for a bit
06:42 <Brunius> Don't just look at Pathfinder Society legal stuff
06:49 <Brunius> Make sure you try to drive me mad
07:39 <Spaceshot> I was looking at PFS stuff to make a PFS blaster
07:49 <Spaceshot> I've got many things that could get you raging :P
07:57 <Spaceshot> my bard is just my failsafe
42:24 <***> Buffer Playback...
42:25 <***> Playback Complete.
42:35 <Mekkis> Brunius, go for it!
43:02 <Mekkis> Brunius, do you really like low-level stuff?
44:11 <Brunius> I'd rather people screw up in a way that eliminates a small island than an entire continent, if it's all the same to you.
44:40 <Brunius> And by screw up I mean confuse me
44:48 * Mort- giggles
45:03 <Hydrazine_> heh.
45:12 <Hydrazine_> I remember my first ever Rifts game.
45:29 <Mort-> Did you blow up the house,g
45:30 <Mort-> ?
45:36 <Mekkis> Brunius, that's not the question:S
45:52 <Hydrazine_> We had one party member in this 40ft tall battle robot
45:57 <Brunius> For now, yes.
46:05 <Hydrazine_> and enemy monster types coming out of this cave.
46:10 <Mekkis> what do you mean "for now"?
46:12 <Brunius> I don't believe I'm familiar enough with the rules to run a higher level game
46:17 <Hydrazine_> So he huge railgun'd the cave.
46:21 <Mekkis> ah
46:30 <Avatar> Hydrazine_: did you see the super mario remake thingamabob where you can use sofia from blaster master
46:34 <Hydrazine_> DM's saying "..How much hp does a fucking cave have?"
46:44 <Mort-> Lol
46:48 <Hydrazine_> No, Avatar 
46:48 <Mekkis> Brunius, can you give us an idea of the advancement rate?
46:53 <Avatar> sec
46:59 <Mort-> I'm always used to jerus and his disable device
47:04 <Mort-> Or what passes for it
47:05 <Brunius> Depends on what people want.
47:13 <Brunius> Go with medium/normal for now
47:14 <Spaceshot> I don
47:16 <Mekkis> you can guess what I'm going to say
47:17 <Hydrazine_> Because that damn battle mech rolled some absolutely criminal damage dice.
47:19 <Spaceshot> t want to just level
47:23 <Spaceshot> mekkis wants to hit high levels
47:31 <Mekkis> "Fast: 1 level every one or two sessions"
47:37 <Hydrazine_> To the point where I think the end decision was that yeah, he did manage to collapse the cave entrance.
47:38 <Avatar> http://www.explodingrabbit.com/games/super-mario-bros-crossover
47:44 * Mort- shrugs indifferently
47:46 <Mort-> Lol
47:56 <Mekkis> Spaceshot just wants to troll me
48:06 <Avatar> wait, that's not it
48:12 <Spaceshot> mekkis, that takes away the experience of the campaign and just puts in OMG MUST LEVEL
48:22 <Mort-> Normal is fine with me
48:23 <Spaceshot> it's super mario crossover 2.0 avatar
48:28 <Spaceshot> I'm even content with slow
48:42 <Mekkis> "normal/slow/fast" doesn't actually mean ANYTHING
48:56 <Spaceshot> no it doesn't\
49:05 <Spaceshot> but I really don't care if we level or not
49:05 <Mekkis> then why are you agreeing with it
49:08 * Mort- just shrugs
49:24 <Spaceshot> because you shouldn't make a character EXPECTING to increase it's levels to a certain point
50:11 <Spaceshot> because along those lines, why bother with the first 19 levels and just always play at level 20?
50:46 <Hydrazine_> but doesn't the pfs guide say 'beware characters that bloom late, since its capped at level 12?'
50:56 <Avatar> maybe that is it
51:02 <Avatar> I played a different version of it which gave you full powers
51:33 <Mort-> Generally my characters bloom late
51:34 <Mekkis> don't you love it how Spaceshot takes His Interpretation on what I say, takes it to unrealistic extremes, then sprouts out garbage?
51:48 <Mort-> But i live with what i have
51:51 <Mort-> Cookies and all
52:41 <Mekkis> Brunius, what's your opinion about 3rd party pathfinder material?
53:22 <Brunius> Fine, as long as it doesn't break stuff
00:33 <Avatar> red flag
01:20 <Avatar> what's the campaign called brunius
01:28 <Avatar> I'll chuck it on the site
01:33 <Brunius> Not sure man
01:46 <Avatar> isn't it a premade?
01:54 <Avatar> or haven't you chosen one yet
01:56 <Brunius> I'm not sure what I'm running yet
02:02 <Avatar> kk
08:43 <Brunius> Yeah, let's go with that
09:52 <Brunius> three headed giant at lunch today
09:54 <Brunius> That was crazy
10:29 <Spaceshot> and you'd prefer, but aren't limiting to, pathfinder material correct?
11:57 <Brunius> Correct.
11:58 <Mekkis> Brunius, run an underwater campaign
12:07 <Brunius> No.
12:09 <Brunius> Go with anything too game breaking or ridiculous and I'll outright ban it.
12:20 <Brunius> Mekkis: https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/engineering-careers-expo . Opinion?
14:43 <Spaceshot> I take offense to that brunius
15:34 <Brunius> Take offense to what?
16:03 <Spaceshot> that you expect me to bring anything too ridiculous
16:14 <Hydrazine_> Brunius: Can I use my 3.0 psion handbook?
16:20 <Spaceshot> I assure you it will be addequately rediculous
16:33 <Brunius> No psionics.
17:02 <Hydrazine_> Yeah, I wasn't gonna take that seriously anyway.
17:08 * Mort- giggles
17:24 <Brunius> You giggler.
17:28 <Spaceshot> magic of incarnum?
17:49 <Hydrazine_> 3.5 vow of poverty monk?
18:06 <Hydrazine_> mkay, even I can't say that with a straight face.
18:11 * Mort- smacks spaceshot on the nose for looking at forbidden tomes
18:33 * Mort- includes hydra in her smack too
18:48 <Spaceshot> tome of battle?
18:54 <Spaceshot> how about an archivist?
18:57 <Spaceshot> XD
19:11 <Mort-> Those are beyond me so i don't know
19:35 <Brunius> Guys, if it's insanely OP, it's banned.
19:36 <Brunius> Clear?
19:37 <Hydrazine_> What was the 3.5 book with the caster specializing in shit that'll take out a whole army?
20:15 <Spaceshot> miniature's handbook?
20:20 <Spaceshot> or just complete mage?
20:21 <Hydrazine_> I'm bullshitting around, Brunius. I know most of the stuff I'm bringing up is flippin' insane.
20:32 <Spaceshot> same, except for magic of incarnum
20:34 <Hydrazine_> It wasn't in complete. It was something else.
20:43 <Spaceshot> UA?
20:48 <Hydrazine_> that 3.0 psi warrior was nuts.
21:04 <Hydrazine_> Nah, it was some special little book for it. I'll figure it out. Or just grumble about it.
22:02 <Hydrazine_> I think I fell in love with the dragonstar books when I found the class in there that lines up just right for making a Space Marine.
22:16 * Mort- is scared of big bru. He sounds mean.
22:38 * Mort- decides she will not steal his cookies again. Bad things may happen
23:27 * Brunius throws a cookie at Mort-
23:33 * Brunius builds a cookie cannon
24:51 <Spaceshot> if you were to run an underwater campaign, I'd so play a dragon adept
25:32 * Mort- Catches the cookie and eats it up. Then purrs
25:40 <Spaceshot> Brunius: I'd prefer not a premade, but each to their own
25:46 <Spaceshot> if it's easier on you to run premade, go nuts
26:30 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: why do you want to level every session or every other session then?
26:56 * Brunius fires a cookie at 3% speed of light.
27:29 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, because I like character advancement.
27:37 * Mort- uses force hook charge to get the cookie!
27:51 * Mort- drinks coffee
28:01 <Spaceshot> why?
28:15 <Mekkis> because I feel that characters should develop
28:18 <Spaceshot> what's wrong with being level one for 5 sessions?
28:21 <Mekkis> you might not understand
28:26 <Mekkis> character development
28:32 <Spaceshot> right
28:34 <Spaceshot> clearly I don't
28:58 <Spaceshot> clearly someone who prefers RP to hack and slash, who prefers character story over character ability
29:05 <Spaceshot> knows nothing about character development
30:26 <Mekkis> clearly someone who thinks that doesn't understand roleplaying.
30:56 <Hydrazine_> Man I want a fuckin' tim tam..
30:57 <Spaceshot> how?
31:06 <Brunius> Rebooting, see you guys soon
31:10 <Mekkis> ah
31:22 <Mort-> I have timtams
31:22 <Spaceshot> I'm waiting for you to backup your statement
31:26 <Mort-> In my fridge
31:29 <Hydrazine_> So jelly.
31:31 <Hydrazine_> I ran out.
31:31 <Mekkis> what
31:43 <Mort-> Lol
31:48 <Spaceshot> [05:51.34] <Mekkis> don't you love it how Spaceshot takes His Interpretation on what I say, takes it tounrealistic extremes, then sprouts out garbage?
31:53 <Mort-> Dark chocolate
31:53 <Avatar> go get some
32:00 <Hydrazine_> Can't find em here.
32:01 <Spaceshot> sound familiar to what you're doing right now?
32:03 <Avatar> dark chocolate wins
32:12 <Hydrazine_> I like the caramel ones.
32:15 * Mort- dangles them in front of hydra and avatar
32:18 <Mekkis> I have no idea what you're accusing me of
32:20 <Mort-> We don't have those here
32:29 <Mort-> I didn't know you were a sweet tooth lol
32:37 <Hydrazine_> I'm really not.
32:38 <Spaceshot> spouting bullshit
32:40 <Mort-> I am a sweet tooth
32:42 <Mort-> Oh
32:47 * Mort- sighs
32:48 <Avatar> I used to have 12-15 boxes sitting in my work drawer
32:49 <Mort-> I'm also fluffy!
32:51 <Spaceshot> and not being able to explain the said bullshit you are spouting
32:54 <Avatar> that I'd pull out whenever I needed a chocolate fix
32:54 <Mort-> Lol
32:57 <Hydrazine_> I don't eat much sweets. Even though I like tim tams, I won't eat more than 3 or 4 at a time.
33:01 <Mekkis> what have I said that you think is bullshit?
33:05 <Spaceshot> your character doesn't need to get a new power, or new ability
33:06 <Mort-> Why would you want to remain at a low level
33:06 <Mekkis> you seem to be really confused
33:08 <Spaceshot> to develop
33:09 <Mort-> Anyway
33:10 <Avatar> yeah I don't eat a whole block at a time
33:11 <Mort-> Didn't the ants come?
33:14 <Avatar> just how much I need
33:14 <Mort-> For goodness sake
33:16 <Mort-> I don't even start
33:21 <Avatar> 12th floor
33:24 <Avatar> no ants
33:26 <Spaceshot> because dnd isn't an MMO where it's a race to the end level
33:28 <Mort-> Will save not to eat the tim tams
33:32 <Mort-> In the fridge
33:33 <Mort-> I don't really have anything against fast or slow progression
33:34 <Mort-> :)
33:42 <Mort-> Actually it isn't hard now
33:45 <Avatar> tim tams don't do it for me 
33:48 <Mort-> Im full and stuffed
33:49 <Mort-> But it gets boring only having the same abilities all the time
33:50 <Mort-> Anyway
33:51 <Avatar> too much chocolate I think
33:54 <Avatar> 1 would be heaps
33:57 <Mort-> So it isn't an issue
34:06 <Mort-> Fireworks do fly at higher levels
34:09 <Mort-> If I'm hungry and bored yes
35:53 <Spaceshot> the problem with dnd/pathfinder
36:12 <Spaceshot> is that at high levels you end up breaking the system/world/campaign/game with just casting simple spells
36:38 <Spaceshot> at low levels fights take long and people can get irritated by not having X ability that makes their character
36:53 <Mekkis> since you're not speaking from experience, the total content in that is nil
37:02 <Spaceshot> and in the middle you can easily have player A be overpowered compared to player B, yet they're both playing characters they happily built
37:13 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: what the fuck do you know
37:17 <Spaceshot> you don't know what I've played
37:26 <Mekkis> I've run games at high levels
37:27 <Spaceshot> so seriously shut the fuck up
37:31 <Mekkis> they didn't end like that
37:39 <Mekkis> so that shows that it is at least possible
37:41 <Spaceshot> did you have failsafes?
37:54 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
38:17 <Spaceshot> did you have something in the campaign/game that made casting a spell like teleportation to the end goal not achieveable
38:22 <Mekkis> no
39:08 <Spaceshot> so they could have if they felt like it?
39:53 <Mekkis> sure
40:02 <Mekkis> if they knew what and where the end goal was
43:49 <Spaceshot> planar allied or gated a creature in that could of found the target?
45:26 <Mekkis> could have
45:27 <Mekkis> didn't
45:37 <Mekkis> not sure if the creature would have
45:50 <Spaceshot> planar ally would
45:56 <Spaceshot> gate not neccessarily
46:01 <Mekkis> not necessarily
47:40 <Spaceshot> but I'll be up for anything brunius gives that isn't just 'well I want you to hit level X, but I'll start you at level Y and let you grind out some levels before I bring in the real threats"
52:21 <Spaceshot> also, I think you asked about third party material because you want to use the Tome of Awesomeness
52:25 <Spaceshot> or whatever it's called
54:31 <Mort-> He wants to be a gnome ^^
54:56 <Mort-> And some obscure gnome faction i bet :s
56:32 <Mekkis> perhaps
58:05 <Mekkis> but no, that isn't why I asked about it
58:11 <Mort-> :d
09:44 <Avatar> haha the Tome of Awesomeness
10:36 <Mekkis> nothing wrong with it
10:53 <Avatar> there is if it breaks things
11:02 <Mekkis> but I don't recommend using it if everyone isn't
11:13 <Avatar> is that what it's actually called?
11:16 <Avatar> I thought it was a joke
11:19 <Mekkis> and it Doesn't Work after about 18th level
11:32 <Mekkis> I think it's called "Awesometome"
11:43 <Avatar> the Awesometome
11:55 <Avatar> sounds like it was written by a 12 yo
12:29 <Mort-> Ah
12:42 <Mort-> Ok think what khaz would like
12:52 <Mort-> I could run him dps...
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13:05 <Mort-> More accurately dpr
13:15 <Mort-> Dunno :d
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17:23 <Brunius> Tome of Secrets, I tihnk
17:31 <Brunius> s/tihnk/sthink
17:37 <Brunius> screw it
17:50 <Brunius> I'm condemned to never using a keyboatrd probperly
18:28 <Spaceshot> heh
18:33 <Spaceshot> I like tome of magic
23:10 <Spaceshot> so yea, if 3rd party material is available, I've got some classes that need looking at :P
35:17 <Spaceshot> tome of secrets is retarded brunius
35:24 <Spaceshot> like wtf powerlevel
35:43 <Brunius> My earlier warning stand.
35:53 <Brunius> Obscene powerlevel = kraken.
36:00 <Spaceshot> heh
36:08 <Spaceshot> yea but you suggested tome of secrets
36:17 <Spaceshot> just looking at he first class in it, artificer
38:16 <Brunius> Isn't that what you were referring to with tome of awesomeness?
38:49 * Mort- is afraid of big b
39:17 <Spaceshot> tome of awesomeness is another tome
39:19 <Spaceshot> made by some random
39:26 <Spaceshot> it's not pretty, just text based
39:29 <Mort-> Ill stick with pfs stuff
39:45 <Spaceshot> I just like oddities
42:39 <Brunius> Aren't you playing in the 5-9 game I'm running, Mort-?
42:58 <Spaceshot> 5-9 now?
43:08 <Brunius> The scenario, to clarify
43:11 <Brunius> on April 1st
43:51 <Spaceshot> oh that one
44:12 <Mekkis> I hope she is
46:19 <Mort-> I sure am!
46:32 <Mort-> But its april fools day^^
49:48 <Brunius> So?
50:45 <Mort-> Don't do anything silly ^^
51:14 <Mort-> Like start the scenario by saying a giant crocodile ate all of us up
52:17 <Brunius> er
53:37 <Mort-> Yep!
08:43 <Spaceshot> can I play an odd race?
09:16 <Mort-> Ask the boss don't ask me
09:40 <Brunius> Did it look like he was asking you
09:54 <Brunius> Did he say "Mort-: Can I play an odd race?"
09:55 <Spaceshot> soo...
10:00 <Brunius> Depends.
10:05 <Brunius> What odd race?
11:34 <Spaceshot> haven't decided yet, but I'm looking at something from 'Races of Obsidian Twillight'
11:49 <Spaceshot> a 3rd party pathfinder compatible pdf
11:56 <Mort-> I already decided how ill look :p
13:24 <Brunius> Like a pirate?
13:31 <Brunius> Arrrrr
15:58 <Mort-> Lol
16:08 <Mort-> Probably
16:22 <Mort-> Mind you i have good fashion sense!
17:25 <Mort-> If my hair is black can i have a red pirate outfit?
18:15 <Spaceshot> time to swashbuckle
18:54 <Brunius> You can have any colour hair you want, mort.
18:55 <Brunius> Within reason
19:13 <Brunius> Although I suppose prestidigitation and permanency can go far.
19:23 <Mort-> Will it look good?
19:35 <Mort-> Or should i get green hair instead!
19:48 <Mort-> can i get a parrot? :p
19:56 <Mort-> Ill skip the peg leg
21:41 <Brunius> Mort, if there's a rule for it, propose it.
21:56 <Mort-> No haha
22:01 <Mort-> Ill skip the parrot
33:39 <Spaceshot> aren't you going spell caster?
33:44 <Spaceshot> why not just have a parrot familiar?
37:21 <Mort-> Nah
37:29 <Mort-> I won't be
37:43 <Mort-> We will see.
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07:58 <Spaceshot> hydra, thought of what your pirate is going to be?
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10:23 <Mort-> He is asleep ffs
11:02 <Mort-> Don't bug him
11:02 <Spaceshot> lies, he just came on :P
11:02 <Spaceshot> XD
12:37 <Spaceshot> I bet brunius has left
12:37 <Mort-> Do you know what it means by auto reboot irc?
12:37 <Spaceshot> meh
14:03 <Mekkis> I think I'll play a pirate
14:08 <Mekkis> of some description
14:19 <Mekkis> I'll play a true azlanti
15:18 * Mort- slaps spaceshot on his nose
15:18 <Spaceshot> wow... Genius Guide's Magus sounds awesome
15:18 <Spaceshot> as a full suport caster
16:25 <Mekkis> I remember last year you were trying to tell me that piracy was theft
19:46 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/s/magister
19:46 <Spaceshot> sounds like something you'd play mort :P
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38:46 <Spaceshot> I'm thinking archon sounds interesting
38:50 <Spaceshot> but I'm still not really sure
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22:09 <Mort-> Low bab
22:22 <Mort-> Its going to get messy in melee
23:17 <Mort-> Actually i don't mind not having divine spells
23:23 <Mort-> I can always umd
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21:13 <Hydrazine_> huh?
22:47 <Spaceshot> see hydra is here :P
22:50 <Spaceshot> anywho, I'm goin to bed
23:31 <Hydrazine_> No, Hydra just woke up.
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