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00:05 <Mekkis> I might try and get a proper sword bomber t-shirt
00:13 <Mekkis> hopefully I'll get the colours right
00:13 <mort-> Lol
00:19 <Mekkis> third time lucky, you know...
00:27 <Mekkis> also need to work on the kerning
02:15 <Mekkis> I killed my first PC today, as a GM...
02:24 <Mekkis> ... who was able to afford a raise dead!
02:33 <Mekkis> man, my dice hate me
02:48 <Avatar> your first PC in person
02:57 <Mekkis> nope
03:06 <Mekkis> I've killed one already in-person
03:12 <Avatar> well how was today a first
03:16 <Mekkis> THIS one, however, was able to afford a raise
03:23 <Avatar> ah
03:28 <Mekkis> I killed Darvesh
03:36 <Mekkis> remember him?
04:28 <Avatar> nope
04:29 <Avatar> who's that
04:37 <Mekkis> David Astley's Earth Druid
05:02 <Avatar> oh yeah
05:12 <Avatar> I'm not very good with character names in person
05:23 <Avatar> nobody really makes them apparent enough except the GM
05:34 <Avatar> it's a bit hard
06:05 <Mekkis> it's one way to encourage roleplaying
06:23 <mort-> You charged?
06:29 <Mekkis> remember how darkwhite was treating "venture-captain" in-game to mean Dreng
06:34 <Mekkis> mort-, yes...
06:45 <Avatar> nope
06:51 <Mekkis> charge-ride-by knocked the rogue unconscious in the surprise round
07:01 * mort- charges mek and steals his cookies
07:08 <Mekkis> a double-20 lance AoO caused the death
07:09 <mort-> I see
07:19 <Avatar> fucking lances
07:21 <mort-> How?
07:27 <Mekkis> AoO
07:29 <Mekkis> roll 20
07:32 <Mekkis> roll 20 to confirm
07:34 <mort-> Oh
07:35 <mort-> Oh
07:40 <Avatar> Oh
07:49 <mort-> How did he get aooed
07:57 <mort-> Trying to tumble out of the way?
08:00 <mort-> Gosh.
08:12 <Mekkis> he was retreating: he's a druid and thus didn't care about difficult terrain
08:24 <mort-> Yes and?
08:32 <mort-> How much hp he has
08:42 <mort-> You weren't charging him were you?
08:46 <Mekkis> nope
08:50 <Mekkis> this was an AoO
09:03 <mort-> Can kill?
09:03 <Mekkis> regardless, he can afford the three Rs
09:31 <mort-> I didn't think lance aoo even crit...
09:43 <mort-> Anyway how much is it to 3r
11:56 <Mekkis> it was 35 damage
11:58 <Mekkis> as I said
12:01 <Mekkis> my dice hate me
13:45 <mort-> Enough to kill?
13:53 <mort-> He is level 5...?
14:05 <mort-> Mort has 30 hp at 4
14:22 <mort-> Level 5 druid has less?
14:45 <Mekkis> he was on about 18
14:51 <Mekkis> level 6
15:08 <mort-> After some meleeing i guess?
15:14 <mort-> What was his max hp
15:20 <Mekkis> not sure
15:32 * Mekkis adds Dwarf to list of PCs killed
15:52 <mort-> I mean its a little unnatural if you can kill even on aoo crit
16:10 <mort-> Hm
16:13 <mort-> Maybe more hp
17:07 <Avatar> how come he didn't withdraw?
17:10 <Mekkis> what do I have: I've never really looked at it
17:26 <Avatar> what are the 3 r's
17:30 <Mekkis> Avatar, if you're 5' away from someone with a reach weapon, withdrawing doesn't stop you from being AoOd
17:34 <mort-> Rez
17:37 <Avatar> ohh
17:43 <Avatar> wow that sucks
17:46 <Avatar> faction reroll shirt ?
17:48 <mort-> Recover corpse
17:52 <Mekkis> Recovery of corpse, Raise Dead, and Restorationx2
17:53 <mort-> Raise dead.
17:56 <mort-> Restoration
18:04 <Avatar> gotcha
18:05 <mort-> How much is that all
18:10 <mort-> Did the party wipe?
18:10 <Mekkis> Avatar, I wasn't wearing mine
18:25 <mort-> 5 ft away from someone with a lance
18:30 <Mekkis> mort-, 5 prestige for recovery, 16 for raise, 8 for two raises
18:56 <Mekkis> what he should have done is wild shaped into an elemental and sunk into the ground...
19:02 <mort-> 8 for 2 restoration you mean
19:08 <Mekkis> yeah
19:08 <mort-> I don't know
19:15 <mort-> For me 5 ft from lance
19:27 <mort-> Means he can't hit you while he is there right?
19:29 <Mekkis> yeah
19:39 <mort-> So you can cast for free!
19:42 <mort-> Attack!
19:42 <Mekkis> yeah
19:45 <Mekkis> yeah
19:46 <mort-> Well lol
19:46 <Mekkis> he COULD
19:54 <mort-> I would spell sling
20:12 <mort-> I think i enlarged jerus with that guy in front of me
20:49 <mort-> But do people prepare wildshape?
21:01 <mort-> Never mind.
23:12 <Mekkis> hmmm
23:16 <Mekkis> who have I killed
23:43 <Mekkis> I think it's only humans, an asimaar and a dwarf
26:43 <Avatar> you killed an aasimar ??
26:55 <Avatar> aasimars are invincible
28:26 * mort- giggles
29:01 <Mekkis> yep
29:08 <Mekkis> crit with handaxe
29:19 <Mekkis> my dice hate me
29:31 <mort-> ^^
29:35 <mort-> Sorry
29:47 <mort-> Im feeling the dark side strongly today
29:56 <mort-> I don't think you'll get much out of me
30:08 <Mekkis> I should bathe my d20 in blood to sate it
30:35 <mort-> Sorry mek.
30:49 <mort-> i just spent the last 3 h thinking evil thoughts!
31:10 <Mekkis> I found another way to break QQ :S
31:28 <mort-> Lol
31:46 <mort-> I think those 3 hs were absolutely fabulous!
32:02 <Mekkis> hs?
37:10 <mort-> Hrs
37:24 <Mekkis> oh
37:27 <Mekkis> hours
37:32 <mort-> Absolutely fabulous
37:43 <mort-> Thinking of the dark side of the force!
38:08 <Mekkis> what I'm saying, mort-, is that it's possible to have 400 str or so
38:11 <Mekkis> without much effort
38:21 <mort-> Lol
38:39 <mort-> What rules are qq operating under
38:57 <Mekkis> D&D 3.5
39:00 <Mekkis> 20th level
39:20 <Mekkis> three books, plus PHB, MM, DMG, Spell Compendium and Magic Item Compendium
39:31 <mort-> Not very good at it
39:39 <mort-> I don't see links that well yet
39:49 <mort-> Its like all a combo chain
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23:42 <MekkisScreen> 
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23:49 <MekkisScreen> wow
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43:17 <Mort-> Hi!
43:40 * Mort- has itchy fingers
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48:14 <MekkisScreen> 
48:19 <MekkisScreen> 
48:23 <MekkisScreen> jj
50:33 * Mort- gropes mekkis because he is a gnome!
52:21 <MekkisScreen> as I was saying
52:33 <MekkisScreen> Asians are the real-world gnome analogies
55:26 <Mort-> Shaddap
55:26 <Mort-> Lol I'm 5'1 and 110 lbs
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57:56 <AndChat-> But seriously
58:04 <MekkisScreen> seriously
58:05 AndChat- is now known as mort-
58:07 <MekkisScreen> I'm half-asian
58:12 <mort-> Really?
58:15 <mort-> Cool beans!
58:32 <mort-> Which side Asian 
58:41 <mort-> Id say jap but your probably Chinese
58:47 <mort-> Lol
58:59 <mort-> I'm chinese!
59:06 <mort-> Asians are shy
59:26 <MekkisScreen> you'd be right with Japanese
59:57 <mort-> Wow
59:59 <mort-> J
00:08 <MekkisScreen> !roll 3d2
00:13 <mort-> K some of the things you say make more sense now
00:30 <MekkisScreen> what do you mean?
00:44 <mort-> Lots of Chinese around the world so there is a higher chance you are Chinese
00:53 <mort-> But the way you behave is more jap
00:59 <MekkisScreen> what do you mean?
01:16 <mort-> Nevermind. Call it lemur sense
01:17 <MekkisScreen> consorting with devils, rather than demons?
01:30 <MekkisScreen> the attitude towards law rather than chaos
01:31 <mort-> Japs tend to be lawful by nature
01:39 <MekkisScreen> I know
01:52 <mort-> They have a certain sense of honor as well
01:55 <MekkisScreen> anyway
02:04 <MekkisScreen> lots of work today, can't talk much :(
02:11 <mort-> Not to mention they are always striving to be the best they can be
02:38 <mort-> Ok
02:38 <mort-> Now ill just talk to myself or avatar
02:38 <mort-> :d
02:38 <mort-> All the best mek!
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12:41 <Ballig_> sup guys
12:58 <Avatar> can you IRC from work now
13:19 <Ballig_> I'm at some seminars
13:39 <Ballig_> really should have brought my keyboard dock
15:52 <Ballig_> I put my phone sim card into my tablet
16:50 <mort-> Lol nub!
17:13 <mort-> Right  what was the dr list again
19:06 <Ballig_> magic, silver, cold iron, adamantine, good/evil/chaos etc?
20:55 <mort-> Ok so what + takes away what
21:08 <mort-> Say you have +1 weapon you want to make keen
21:14 <mort-> What do you use for it
21:29 <mort-> 2k+6k?
21:38 <mort-> First you have the weapon.
21:56 <mort-> Then you decide lets make it +1 and keen
23:04 <Ballig_> keen probably has a "bonus"cost
23:37 <Ballig_> what does it say is the cost of keen
23:56 <mort-> +1
24:23 <mort-> 4k gp?
24:42 <Ballig_> then a +1 keen weapon costs the same as a +2
25:16 <mort-> Ok so its 8 k gp in all
25:35 <mort-> +1 skips magic resistance
26:06 <Ballig_> yeah, DR /magic
26:13 <mort-> What does it take to over come cold iron / silver
26:22 <mort-> And good
27:13 <mort-> Max you can get is +5
27:26 <mort-> So vorpal you can't get normally
27:40 <Ballig_> you can
27:59 <Ballig_> you can get +5 carpal
28:12 <Ballig_> costs go up to +10
28:39 <Ballig_> a cold iron weapon overcomes that dr
29:33 <mort-> Say if we want to use magic to over come it?
29:42 <mort-> because I'm a lazy fk :p
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31:22 <Ballig_> has to be relatively high
31:35 <Ballig_> it's in the core rulebook
33:36 <mort-> I don't have the book
33:46 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure keen is more than +1
33:56 <Ballig_> I'm on my tablet in a seminar
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34:05 <Avatar> maybe I'm wrong, +1
34:06 <mort-> but I'm not exactly alarmed since i walk around with swift action weapon enchantp
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34:15 <mort-> So that's why I'm so lazy :d
34:16 <Avatar> that's pretty sweet
34:27 <Ballig_> a seminar on the use of social media at work
34:30 <Avatar> I should make my musket keen
34:39 <mort-> Screw. Dr. I can make.
34:51 <mort-> Any of my weapons enchanted as much as  i want
34:52 <Avatar> oh, melee only :(
34:55 <mort-> If i wanted to
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35:30 <mort-> I can also "haste" myself at later levels
35:37 <mort-> Just level 5
37:13 <Avatar> maybe bane
37:43 <Avatar> there's not many bonuses for ranged weaps
38:28 <Ballig_> yeah
38:38 <Ballig_> don't need a lot
38:48 <Ballig_> can you get cold iron bullets
39:13 <mort-> Screw it
39:27 <mort-> I have. Nevaxan steel weapons
39:29 <mort-> Its cheaper
39:40 <mort-> Really cold iron is so out of fashion
39:59 <Avatar> yeah you can
40:05 <Avatar> special material bullets are pretty cheap
40:17 <Ballig_> yeah
40:27 <Avatar> adamantine ones cost a bit
40:30 <Ballig_> don't need a lot more bonuses
40:34 <Avatar> and paper alchemicalising them costs more
40:41 <Ballig_> yeah
44:54 <Ballig_> I'm tempted to make an archer of some kind
49:44 <Ballig_> fighter with point blank shot, precise shot and rapid shot at level 1 (pretty typical)
50:33 <Avatar> not another fighter
52:23 <Ballig_> I want to see a barbarian
52:35 <Ballig_> but don't necessarily want to play one
53:13 <mort-> Nexavaran Steel
53:23 <mort-> Love this stuff
54:22 <Ballig_> have you confirmed that it's legal for pfs
57:26 <Avatar> phly is a barb
57:57 <Avatar> what's nexavaran steel
59:29 <Ballig_> probably fan made rule
00:02 <Avatar> faction guide
00:03 <Avatar> it's not legal
01:09 <Ballig_> faction or campaign?
02:02 <Avatar> faction guide
02:07 <Avatar> pathfinder chronicles
02:45 <Ballig_> faction guides aren't legal?
03:00 <MekkisScreen> pity the faction guide doesn't have any factions in it that are PFS legal
03:03 <Ballig_> what's a an example of a faction guide
03:09 <MekkisScreen> you know, except the Pathfinder Society
03:22 <Ballig_> ha
03:43 <MekkisScreen> the Faction Guide is a book: I bought a copy, thinking it would include the PFS factions in it
04:05 <MekkisScreen> it's got stuff like the Eagle Knights, the Hellknights, Red Mantis, Whispering Way
04:07 <Ballig_> shh
04:08 <Avatar> that'll teach you for not pirating it first
04:08 <MekkisScreen> that sort of thing
04:11 <Ballig_> er
04:14 <Ballig_> ahh
04:34 <MekkisScreen> I want them to put the Wonderseekers into PFS as a faction
07:02 <mort-> It says pathfinder chronicle setting
07:12 <mort-> Wait campaign setting
07:13 <mort-> Argh.
10:31 <Ballig_> it isn't legal
11:17 <Ballig_> if anything seems super awesome, it's probably not pfs legal
15:41 <Avatar> we can't have nice things in PFS :(
16:08 <Ballig_> :(
18:30 <MekkisScreen> someone should run a non-PFS campaign
18:52 <Ballig_> at what level
19:12 <MekkisScreen> I'd like something starting at somewhere between 7 and 20
19:16 <mort-> Mek! Your supposed t be at work
19:24 <MekkisScreen> but I'm open to suggestions
19:28 <Ballig_> so am I
19:33 * mort- bites mekkis monster
19:38 <MekkisScreen> mort-: I know: I'm waiting for a database to copy from one thing to another
19:45 <MekkisScreen> and my codes's compiling!@
20:15 <Ballig_> ha
21:34 <Ballig_> ö
22:26 <mort-> Fail to plan. Plan to fail.
22:43 <mort-> I need more cookies :(
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23:33 <Avatar> I would need to hear about an incredibly interesting campaign if I was going to get involved
23:39 <Avatar> I'm too keen on PFS
24:13 <Hydrazine> howdy.
24:22 <Avatar> yo
24:22 <mort-> Hi hydra
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25:05 <Hydrazine> Whats up?
25:13 <mort-> Nothing
25:23 <Avatar> mort trying to cheat again
25:31 <mort-> Just had a night falling to the dark side
25:34 <Avatar> nothing new
25:42 <mort-> And yes mornin is sobering
25:45 <mort-> (
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26:00 <Avatar> time machine timing out
26:38 <Ballig_> Avatar: what if you levelled a fast as in pfs?
27:14 <Avatar> no good
27:42 <Avatar> I like the scenario-based stuff
28:12 <Ballig_> isn't that the entire reason you liked pfs to begin with
28:31 <Avatar> probably
28:32 <Ballig_> I'm sure it was the guaranteed levelling
28:32 <Ballig_> based on scenarios
29:21 <Ballig_> what if I convert toee to pfs!
29:27 * mort- nips hydrazine
29:30 <Avatar> if it's toee, I'm in
29:39 <Avatar> no ifs buts or maybes
29:59 <Avatar> even in 3.5 that was good
31:01 <Hydrazine> toee?
31:12 <Avatar> return to the Temple of Elemental Evil
32:24 <Avatar> it was the first campaign we played in here that really got off the ground
32:29 <Avatar> and it had some very epic moments
32:46 <Avatar> we had 3 players would consistently come in weekly
32:51 <Avatar> who* would
33:10 <Avatar> monk, cleric, wizard party
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37:09 <MekkisScreen> what is dicebot?
37:57 <mort-> Fake diebot
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53:14 <Ballig_> it's going to be a schedule notifier most likely
53:44 <Ballig_> avatar said my usual bou bot name (Elminster) was no good
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56:10 <mekkis_tablet> why not?
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01:56 <Ballig_> no idea! probably because he's a jerk!
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27:51 <MekkisScreen> I meant: why do you care what he says?
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52:08 <Ballig_> hm, ranged fighters are slightly behind the eight ball in terms of damage
53:00 <tristen> yeah, but manyshot and deadly aim help...
53:36 <Hydrazine_> well, if you consider that they get full attack rounds more often than melee.
53:42 <Hydrazine_> I think they kind of catch up.
53:59 <Ballig_> yeah, they end up being feat-hungry I think
54:19 <tristen> they end up being entirely feat-hungry
54:29 <Hydrazine_> does kinda take a bunch to get that awesome, huh tris?
54:34 <Ballig_> they may catch up at sixth level
54:45 <tristen> yeah
54:58 <tristen> oskar11's feats went a bit like this:
55:17 <tristen> Level 1  Rapid Shot, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot
55:18 <tristen> Level 2  Combat Expertise
55:18 <tristen> Level 3  Improved Trip
55:18 <tristen> Level 4  Combat Reflexes
55:18 <tristen> Level 5  Shot on the Run
55:20 <tristen> Level 6  Manyshot
55:22 <tristen> Level 7  Snap Shot
55:25 <tristen> Level 8  Deadly Aim
55:27 <tristen> Level 9  Improved Snap Shot
55:30 <tristen> Level 10 Greater Trip
55:32 <tristen> Level 11 Improved Precise Shot
55:33 <Hydrazine_> and that turns him into a monster.
55:36 <Hydrazine_> but its alot of feat.s
55:54 <tristen> yep
56:08 <Ballig_> could you use the trip at range?
56:14 <tristen> yep
56:15 <Hydrazine_> how does retraining work exactly?
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56:22 <tristen> with the archer archetype only though
56:36 <Avatar> are you guys still talking archer
56:42 <tristen> strangely rangers don't get the ability to do that stuff
56:43 <Avatar> look if you want ranged, three words for you
56:45 <Avatar> get a gun
56:50 <Hydrazine_> i see stuff about replacing old feats, but it seems like its reading like you switch an old feat out INSTEAD of getting a new one, and that seems silly.
56:51 <Avatar> that's all I have to say about that
57:37 <Ballig_> I'd be surprises if that was the intent
57:43 <Ballig_> doesn't make a lot of sense
57:57 <MekkisScreen> Ballig_: I meant: why do you take heed to what he says?
58:09 <Avatar> elminister is a dumb name
58:19 <MekkisScreen> so is Buck
58:23 <MekkisScreen> and Snake
58:24 <Ballig_> he's my adviser
58:24 <Avatar> Buck is a sweet name
58:29 <MekkisScreen> and Roger Ordinary
58:36 <Avatar> he only listens to my garbage because I actually give him feedback
58:48 <Ballig_> Roger was quite ordinary
58:49 <Avatar> Roger Ordinary is a great name !
58:57 <tristen> mekkis: unless you have a speech impediment...woger
59:05 <Avatar> Roger E. Ordinary
59:14 <Avatar> you can't tell me that's not a great name for a bard
59:15 <MekkisScreen> and Mr. Ed
59:15 <Ballig_> Roger the cowardly bard
59:18 <tristen> woger e owdinawy
59:57 <Ballig_> apparently there was a con 8 bars playing last weekend
59:58 <Ballig_> who would literally run and hide from combat
00:09 <Ballig_> and not even do his bard song
00:20 <Ballig_> bars/bard
00:31 <MekkisScreen> at least he knows his weaknesses
00:42 <MekkisScreen> slip has 8 con
01:59 <Ballig_> he did nothing
02:12 <Avatar> you have to remember that was day 1 of PFS
02:28 <Ballig_> the GM (who was also the organiser) wanted to give him no credit for the games
03:02 <Avatar> why did he run and hide from every combat
03:29 <Ballig_> basically everyone who played at the same table as this bard bitched about him all weekend
03:50 <Ballig_> he had 8 con, was his reasoning
04:42 <Avatar> did he have a crossbow
04:59 <Ballig_> but even when he had for example hidden behind a boulder he didn't start playing songs or anything
05:18 <Ballig_> he didn't participate in any way, shape or form
05:33 <Avatar> start pvping him
06:20 <Ballig_> ha, I didn't play with him - he was signed up at my table but we had nine players so we split into two tables
06:26 <tristen> strictly speaking you can do what he did
06:26 <Ballig_> and luckily I avoided him
06:30 <tristen> it's not illegal right?
06:40 <tristen> i'm not saying it's right of course
06:55 <Ballig_> it's not illegal but it's frustrating
07:06 <tristen> yes
07:35 <Ballig_> the organiser WANTED to not give him credit for the scenario but couldn't
07:48 <tristen> the other players should have done what they could to cmb the enemies back to him!
08:03 <Ballig_> ha
08:06 <MekkisScreen> Deceased "Collateral Damage" would have
08:09 <Ballig_> grapple and drag over to him
08:16 <MekkisScreen> reposition
08:39 <tristen> yeah i'm surprised the dm didn't just contrive a means of killing him...
09:10 <Avatar> the problem with a GM trying to do that is it makes a good excuse for the rest of the party to deal with the bad guy
09:18 <Avatar> and he can use it as an excuse to keep running away
09:32 <tristen> yeah scratch that last statement
09:36 <Ballig_> yeah
09:49 <MekkisScreen> why bother: take out everyone else
09:53 <MekkisScreen> then what's the bard going to do?
10:09 <Ballig_> a bit harsh
10:13 <Avatar> keep running
10:24 <Ballig_> kill a bunch of players to teach one guy a lesson
10:26 <MekkisScreen> what scenario was it?
10:39 <MekkisScreen> Shadows' last stand?
10:45 <Ballig_> that lesson: hang in the back and hide so you can run if there's a TPK
11:02 <Ballig_> it was shook weekend apparently
11:13 <tristen> geez is shadow's last stand another dark vengeance?
11:15 <Ballig_> at least tour different scenarios
11:20 <Ballig_> shook/all
11:23 <MekkisScreen> tristen: nope
11:30 <tristen> oh good
11:32 <Ballig_> no Tristen
11:33 <MekkisScreen> I've played Shadow's Last Stand 1
11:36 <MekkisScreen> it's pretty good
11:41 <Ballig_> so have I
11:56 <MekkisScreen> it's definately /challenging/ at 6-7
12:11 <Ballig_> as long as I knew how to love I knew I'd stay alive
13:43 <MekkisScreen> I think First Steps 2 is quite TPKish
14:06 <tristen> is that the dungeon one?
14:07 <Hydrazine_> 2 didn't give me any trouble at all. 1 however..
14:11 <MekkisScreen> last time I ran it, I had three party members unconscious
14:15 <Avatar> yeah 2 was no issue for me
14:18 <MekkisScreen> and the other one blind
14:30 <Hydrazine_> Got to the point where Snake was the only one conscious.
14:59 <Avatar> I think 1's the toughest, followed by 2, followed by 3
15:01 <Ballig_> 2 can be deadly, and so can 1
15:11 <Ballig_> but it depends on the GM too
16:07 <MekkisScreen> Ballig_: regarding Sundays: I'll be unavailable every second sunday, and I'm not sure about the intervening ones
16:13 <MekkisScreen> perhaps I should pull out of CoTE
16:25 <Avatar> http://baldursgate.com/
16:31 <Ballig_> sometimes GMs forget that tactics are often there to balance an encounter
16:45 <Ballig_> if you pull out of core the game is over
16:57 <Ballig_> there it's only three of you now
17:08 <Ballig_> core/cote
17:22 <Avatar> it's probably better to do it every second sunday
17:37 <MekkisScreen> then it will probably take ages
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17:39 <Avatar> how do you apply credit from CoTE
17:56 <Avatar> does it have to add on to a level 1 character
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18:32 <Ballig_> it would if you started again
18:59 <Avatar> what if we continue
19:04 <Ballig_> but because we started before the the change, you apply it to any character with appropriately scaled gold
19:21 <Avatar> that's too good
19:27 <Avatar> let's do every second sunday
19:33 <Avatar> even if we do 8 hour sessions
19:47 <Ballig_> mekkis: it doesn't HAVE to be a Sunday slot
19:52 <Ballig_> it might be Friday evening for example
20:02 <Ballig_> I just need to understand availability
20:04 <Avatar> do you still do magic on fridays
20:08 <mort-> I'm a scardey mur
20:16 <mort-> I run when there is trouble!
20:30 * mort- hides in a bush!
21:05 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: not always
21:26 <MekkisScreen> any reason why we can't have another character introduced?
21:51 <mort-> I wish i was in cote but i haven't had urm time for weekend games
21:59 <mort-> Till recently
22:00 <Avatar> it's mid-module
22:10 <MekkisScreen> and...?
22:14 <mort-> Yeah its not fair to people who have played
22:28 <Avatar> and you have to play from the start
22:29 <Avatar> it's PFS
22:37 <mort-> Blah blah. To crash the gate :p
22:51 <Avatar> it's not like we've only just started
22:55 <mort-> But that's a Sunday without entertainment :p
23:07 * mort- wails :p
23:20 * mort- is also a spoilt brat
23:44 <mort-> :d
23:52 <Avatar> could do it on saturdays
23:53 <Ballig_> mekkis: it's unfair to ask someone to give up that much XP and good for starting late
24:10 <Ballig_> good/gold
24:18 <mort-> Laws are laws though
24:19 <mort-> Act
24:21 <mort-> Actually
24:32 <mort-> Even if i couldn't apply any credit
24:36 <mort-> I would still play
24:40 <mort-> Because its fun
24:41 <mort-> Lol
24:51 <mort-> Oh my. A relevation
26:17 <mort-> Just to see things
26:21 <mort-> In an alternate time stream
26:24 <MekkisScreen> Ballig_: some people don't care about that
27:00 <mort-> I really would play. Even if i got no credit for it
27:13 <mort-> Just for the feck of it
27:16 <Ballig_> then they care about missing the first half of the story
27:26 <mort-> Uh its ok haha
28:15 <MekkisScreen> Ballig_: are we half way in?
28:21 <mort-> Ok lets just put it this way
28:39 <mort-> Its one less Sunday i can party in :p
28:51 <mort-> That's all i really care
28:53 <mort-> Lol
28:55 <Ballig_> about half I think
29:24 <mort-> 3 is a little harsh to run stuff
29:40 <mort-> If you held it on week day nights
29:45 <mort-> I wouldn't complain lol
30:04 <Ballig_> really not impressed that a module which was meant to be for reliable players only has had this much change
30:53 <mort-> ?
31:06 <MekkisScreen> I mean, as I see it, we've been told "Go to this crypt, retrieve the Everflame"
31:15 <MekkisScreen> then we went to the crypt
31:19 <MekkisScreen> found a bunch of undead
31:39 <MekkisScreen> and were assaulted by some wolves
31:53 <Ballig_> spoilers
31:56 <MekkisScreen> and were attacked by a large number of arrows
32:10 <MekkisScreen> not really anything "storylike"
33:11 <Ballig_> then people who don't caese about
33:28 <Ballig_> the rewards won't like the module
33:42 <Avatar> Mekkis: what happened to your sundays
33:43 <Ballig_> because there's not enough story
33:56 <Ballig_> lunch
34:06 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: I've been roped to running PFS on them
34:21 <Avatar> did you tell them you're busy playing a module on sundays
34:26 <MekkisScreen> no
35:12 <Avatar> do you think maybe that's not really kosher
35:16 <mort-> It means you nubs need a magus :d
35:34 <mort-> Undead creatures can be hit with magic weapons :p
35:43 <mort-> And holy water  :p
35:51 <mort-> Lol
35:58 <mort-> I dunno
36:12 <mort-> Just want to keep flopping around :d
36:13 <Ballig_> this isn't about you mort
36:32 <mort-> Sigh
36:38 <mort-> Fine ill get to work
36:50 <mort-> And stop complaining
37:01 * mort- sulks
40:42 <Ballig_> if we asked you to play/run games in here and you were already meant to be playing or running somewhere else, you would refuse us. but when it's the other way around other people get priority?
49:13 <MekkisScreen> Ballig_: I wasn't asked
49:20 <MekkisScreen> I was TOLD
49:46 <MekkisScreen> and they wouldn't take no for an answer
50:27 <MekkisScreen> and regardless, at that time I wasn't playing a module on Sundays
50:35 <Ballig_> they were going to physically force you?
50:45 <MekkisScreen> yeah!
50:58 <Ballig_> right
51:38 <Ballig_> you knew earlier this week that I was continuing
52:09 <MekkisScreen> this Sunday thing has been going for months
54:00 <MekkisScreen> wow
54:09 <MekkisScreen> someone from apple visited my site
55:46 <Ballig_> so you thought when I said "screw it, we're going on without canine what is you're availability" that I was bullshitting?
56:25 <MekkisScreen> that's not unprecedented
57:24 <Ballig_> yes it is
58:30 <Ballig_> that is a seriously disappointing reasoning, mekkis
58:34 <MekkisScreen> see? you're bullshitting again!
00:12 * mort- cheers the guys who blugeoned mek into running games
00:28 <Ballig_> right
01:42 <MekkisScreen> seriously though, I should be available every second friday or every second sunday
01:48 <mort-> Seriously if i was sitting here and cote wasn't run for more then a month
02:02 <mort-> I would go find some other entertainment i think
02:04 <mort-> Hm
02:12 <Ballig_> mort: that was because of canine
02:21 <mort-> It sucks waking up at wave time just to find wave called off
02:24 <Ballig_> we decided to continue without him
02:40 <mort-> I've been up at 3 am for the team before
02:51 <Ballig_> we didn't schedule it
02:52 <Ballig_> no one write up and showed up only to find the game off
03:07 <Ballig_> write/woke
03:30 <mort-> So yeah i would get irritated to find stuff called off
04:18 <Ballig_> it wasn't
04:18 <mort-> Once i was prepared to show up for d&d on 4 h sleep for the last 2 days :d
04:18 <Ballig_> this isn't about you
04:18 <mort-> I think i waited for an h then i passed out :d
04:18 <mort-> Sigh
04:18 <mort-> Forget it
04:22 <mort-> It just isn't my day
04:39 <mort-> Just saying i can understand why mek did what he did
04:41 <Ballig_> then stop sticking your nose in
04:58 <mort-> Especially if they threatened him with physical violence ^^
05:18 <Ballig_> except that isn't what happened at all
05:28 <Ballig_> so stop interfering
06:10 * mort- rubs her sore nose
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19:36 <Brunius> A wild timer appeared! http://baldursgate.com/
19:40 <Avatar> old
19:53 <Avatar> iinet's plans are apparently no longer offpeak and peak
20:33 <Brunius> Just get an internode plan.
20:45 <Avatar> iinet is internode
22:09 <Brunius> Wrong.
22:12 <Brunius> Internode is iinet.
22:58 <Avatar> then what are you talking about
26:10 <Brunius> Internode is part of iinet, but run as a seperate company.
26:17 <Brunius> Or so I heard from internode.
27:12 <Avatar> that's gobbledygook
00:40 <Brunius> I worked out the earliest level I could get sword and pistol, and it appears to be 7
00:43 <Brunius> Which is a bit shit.
08:40 <mort-> I just failed several will saves to stay awake during a meeting
13:08 <Brunius> nice 1
17:43 <Mekkis> internode have IPv6
17:45 <Mekkis> iinet don't
19:36 <mort-> That's really dumb
19:50 <mort-> I swear next time I'm drinking coffee for meetings
20:05 <mort-> Screw it if i pay the consequences later
20:39 <Ballig> I'm afraid to see you on caffeine
22:06 <mort-> Think hammy from over the hedge
23:31 <Ballig> what's that
25:03 <Brunius> Mekkis: I'm not running IPv6 though.
25:48 <mort-> You didn't watch over the hedge?
25:57 <mort-> You mean you guys don't watch cartoons?
25:58 <Ballig> what's over the hedge
26:06 <mort-> A cartoon movie
26:19 <mort-> You tube hammy
26:21 <Ballig> oh, uh
26:23 <mort-> I am a cartoon fan
26:24 <Ballig> I think I kn ow the one you mean
26:28 <Ballig> it has animals
26:30 <mort-> Seriously.
26:33 <mort-> Yes
26:37 <mort-> They pwn
26:42 <Ballig> I can't even remember why I watched that, it might have been on TV when I was in hospital last year
27:00 <mort-> Ah but anyway
27:05 <mort-> Think hammy
29:12 <Brunius> Anyone able to obtain free copies of windows 7?
31:26 <Ballig> ofc
31:26 <Ballig> I'm using one
32:29 <Brunius> Perhaps I should have added legally to that sentence.
32:41 <Brunius> Revised sentence reads: Anyone able to legally obtain free copies of windows 7?
33:50 <Ballig> why do you think that sort of thing exists?
34:18 <Brunius> Because the nearby tafe will give you a free copy.
34:24 <Ballig> legal, no cost, hassle-free: choose two
34:32 <Brunius> legal, no cost.
34:41 <Ballig> become a student of the local tafe
34:50 <Brunius> costs money to become a student yo
35:08 <Ballig> get a scholarship
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35:39 <Brunius> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OinY_Xr2zHg
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37:23 <Avatar> lollll get a scholarship
38:07 <Brunius> Not sure they offer scholarships
38:16 <Ballig> they would call them "funded placements"
38:30 <Ballig> some schools offer funded tafe placements as "advanced" high school courses
46:25 <Avatar> I am itching to play a game
46:52 <Ballig> did you like my pregnant lady
47:11 <Avatar> yeah that was grand
47:19 <Avatar> with the kid on the floor
47:22 <Ballig> haha
47:28 <Ballig> she was giving birth!@
47:42 <Avatar> I always try to use afterthought additions like that
48:03 <Ballig> by the way, your plumber was really hard to guess
48:21 <Avatar> it was mario!
48:25 <Ballig> oh, I knew it was mario
48:31 <Ballig> I just couldn't make the connection to plumber for ages
48:57 <Avatar> next time I'll make sure he has a wrench in his hand
49:01 <Ballig> ha
49:14 <Avatar> I might start doing up a new character that I may never use
49:40 <Ballig> I still like the idea of an archer
49:47 <Ballig> it's just really feat intensive
50:03 <Avatar> did you get some advice from tristen
50:04 <Ballig> with a usual fighter you have time to get things like weapon focus/furious focus
50:12 <Ballig> nah, I looked into it myself
50:22 <Ballig> you pretty much need point blank and precise shot straight up
50:28 <Ballig> if you're human, you also need rapid shot at first level
50:37 <Ballig> second level you have to take something like deadly aim
50:38 <Avatar> what you need is a gun
50:42 <Ballig> but by that point you've got huge negatives to your attack
50:50 <Ballig> that's not an archer
50:58 <Avatar> it's almost an archer
51:13 <Avatar> what's the negative to taking a single level of gunslinger with fighter the rest of the way for feats
51:22 <Ballig> so you have huge negatives to your attack, plus your +attack and +damage stats are different
51:31 <Ballig> so you can't just dump it all into strength like you can with a melee fighter
53:25 <Ballig> so say you have +3 strength and +3 dex, at level 1 you're attacking twice at +2 (because you have taken -2 to both attacks from rapid shot), and dealing 2d8+6 damage
53:38 <Ballig> at level 2 you're still attacking with +2 because you've taken deadly aim, which negatves your increase in BAB
53:47 <Ballig> and you're now dealing 2d8+10 damage
55:50 <Avatar> internal alchemist isn't a bad archetype
56:16 <Ballig> what does internal do
56:38 <Ballig> I'm still tempted to make my feral alchemist that uses enlarge person extracts so he has a natural reach of 10ft + natural weapons + the stand still feat
56:44 <Avatar> oh, swift alchemy is pretty important
56:48 <Ballig> to prevent people getting into melee with him
57:08 <Avatar> internal alchemist lets you breath underwater pretty much forever
57:13 <Ballig> ahh
57:22 <Avatar> disease resistance (as well as poison)
57:32 <Avatar> uncanny dodge instead of swift poisoning
00:02 <Ballig> what do they lose
01:48 <mort-> He just shoots
01:49 <Avatar> just shit
01:55 <Avatar> I'm looking at cavalier now
02:02 <Avatar> is tactician any good
02:04 <Ballig> no
02:12 <Ballig> I gave it up for a free mounted feat I think
02:45 <Avatar> there's an archetype that gives you mounted combat for free instead of it
02:52 <Avatar> and some other cool shit instead of the shit you get
02:59 <Ballig> that's Bobbob's archetype
03:03 <Avatar> ah
03:04 <Ballig> gendarme or something
03:15 <Avatar> this one's emissary
03:22 <Ballig> that's not the one Bobbob is
04:39 <Avatar> yeah gendarme does look a bit better
06:38 <Ballig> tactician is all about teamwork feats
06:48 <Ballig> if you chose the right teamwork feat, and you had the right allies, you could make use of it
06:57 <Ballig> but it's far too hit-or-miss to be consistently useful in PFS
07:08 <Brunius> yeah
08:15 <Avatar> oh pirate is a rogue archetype
08:22 <Avatar> I thought you were just going to be roleplaying it out brunius
08:29 <Brunius> What
08:35 <Brunius> There's a rogue archetype?
08:43 <Avatar> yeah, called pirate
08:48 <Brunius> Where?
08:52 <Ballig> UC probably
08:56 <Avatar> UC
09:06 <Avatar> I wouldn't take it
09:07 <Avatar> it's pretty shit
09:13 <Ballig> it's pretty shit
09:15 <Ballig> ha
09:28 <Avatar> you lose trapfinding and trap sense and get two ho hum things
09:30 <Ballig> it's either super roleplay-y, or good if you were actually in a sea-based campaign
09:39 <Avatar> yeah
09:45 <Avatar> you're better off pretending you're a pirate
09:53 <Ballig> yeah
10:37 <Brunius> That was the plan
11:23 <Avatar> looks like all the rogue archetypes are a bit shit
11:31 <Brunius> yeah
11:32 <Avatar> they all replace the good stuff
11:38 <Avatar> either trapfinding or sneak attack
11:44 <Brunius> Sneak attack is a bit shit
11:54 <Avatar> lies
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13:16 <Ballig> sneak attack is where you get your damage
13:19 <Ballig> it's ju st really hard to work out
13:59 <Brunius> I probably just built kaleb badly
14:18 <Ballig> I think taking fleet was a mistake
14:37 <Brunius> and stealthy
14:41 <Ballig> yeah
19:48 <Brunius> Avatar, do you play tribes: ascend?
22:36 <Avatar> nop
22:54 <Brunius> Must be one of those fake Avatars floating around
23:09 <Avatar> yes there's quite a few imposters
24:30 <mort-> Grr
24:34 <mort-> Think tail think
24:42 <Ballig> tails don't have brains
24:47 <Ballig> and you dont have tails
24:49 <mort-> I want to learn a new tick!
24:56 <tristen> actually, if you feel you've made a mistake with a feat, what can you do?
24:59 <mort-> My name is mortail!
25:08 <mort-> Hi tristen!
25:11 <tristen> i think this was being discussed earlier...
25:11 <Ballig> I don't think anything tristen
25:14 <tristen> heya mort
25:16 <Avatar> bit of lightning around here
25:20 <tristen> aye
25:25 <Avatar> tristen: nothing, you're screwed
25:27 <Brunius> Pretty much nothing
25:36 <Ballig> I think fighters have limited "retrains"
25:37 <Ballig> but that's it
25:39 <tristen> wow, that's a bit harsh
25:56 <Avatar> that's what that chick was saying she didn't like
25:59 * mort- tumbles tristen over and steals his cookies
26:03 <Avatar> what was her name
26:07 <Avatar> I forget
26:09 <Avatar> the 4e one
26:15 <tristen> cookie monster on the loose
26:36 <Avatar> might make a straight laced alchemist, any reason not to?
26:38 <Brunius> phly?
26:46 <Avatar> phly is a guy
27:06 <tristen> avatar: no reason i can think of! you saw ryan's alchemist - he was frightening
27:20 <Avatar> ryan has an alchemist ?
27:26 <mort-> I wouldn't go that way
27:30 <tristen> i think i recall he got him bomb range to 100ft or something
27:42 <mort-> Anyway yes I'm still trying to puzzle khaz out
27:44 <mort-> Gah
27:45 <tristen> yeah ryan of the dreadlock-ed hair
27:57 <Avatar> yeah I know who ryan is :P
27:58 <mort-> What a headache
28:14 <Avatar> I don'tremember seeing him use an alchemist
28:14 <tristen> oh there's two ryans out there
28:21 <Avatar> I've only played with him once, he was using a wizard
28:21 <Brunius> vlryan
28:23 <Avatar> before your time
28:46 <tristen> he played him at the con, i think brunius was on the team
28:54 <Brunius> yeah
28:56 <Brunius> when matt dmed
29:05 <Avatar> oh the room I escaped
29:35 <Brunius> "escaped"
29:37 <Brunius> He was really good
29:46 <mort-> Aol
29:47 <Avatar> fair enough
29:48 <mort-> Lol
29:52 <Avatar> mekkis scared me
29:54 <mort-> Ran away from matt?
30:03 <Avatar> yeah i was slotted into the matt room
30:04 <mort-> What's up with mek
30:10 <Avatar> and then darkwhite walked in saying this other room needs more people
30:14 <Avatar> and I escaped outta there quicksmart
30:22 <Avatar> hell yes I'll help fill that room !
34:09 <mort-> Lol
34:19 <mort-> What's up with matt :d
34:41 <Avatar> he is nicknamed killer matt
34:50 <mort-> Lol
35:04 <mort-> Did he manage to kill mek?
35:05 <Brunius> He wrote Cult of the Ebon Destroyers
35:08 * mort- grins
35:17 <Avatar> I don't know what kind of game he played with these guys, but when we were arranging tables, nobody at the con wanted to play at matt's table for the special
35:29 <Avatar> there was just this silence that went around the room, and then laughter at the silence
35:48 <Brunius> yeah
35:49 <Avatar> then darkwhite moved him out of the 'hard' category and switched him with the 'suicidal' table
37:36 <mort-> Lol
38:11 <Avatar> kaboom! says the lightning bolt
49:01 <Mekkis> Brunius, ummm.... paybe
49:22 <Brunius> what
49:30 <Mekkis> maybe
49:37 <Mekkis> I might be able to get you one
50:01 <Mekkis> I have a win7 licence I'm not using
50:04 <Brunius> I'd very much appreciate it if you could
52:43 <Mekkis> time to do a paizo order
52:55 <tristen> brunius: time to upgrade to unix
53:04 <Mekkis> *n?x
53:08 <Brunius> Dude, can unix run bf3?
53:13 <tristen> who cares?
53:20 <Mekkis> dude, bf3 sucks
53:23 <Brunius> I care yo
53:26 <tristen> pffft
53:43 <Mekkis> /.+n.x/
54:48 <Mekkis> should I buy another T-Shirt
55:34 <Brunius> Absolutely.
55:39 <Brunius> Then you should give it to me
55:44 <Mekkis> no
55:56 <Brunius> http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzt4cvcOLM1qcn1rxo1_400.jpg
56:03 <mort-> I think one t shirt is enough
56:17 <mort-> Just take it out at start of game :d
56:36 <mort-> And say you aren't wearing else you stink the house down
58:14 <Mekkis> is it worth getting Bestiary 3?
58:44 <Brunius> Probably not.
58:44 <mort-> Yes :p
58:57 <mort-> Well that one might be nice to get
59:02 <mort-> But a new shirt no?
59:04 <Mekkis> I've got 1 and 2
59:13 <Brunius> Mekkis: What are the chances your order will arrive before conquest?
59:20 <Mekkis> not sure
59:41 <Mekkis> I've got Elves of Golarion
59:47 <Mekkis> and Gnomes of Golarion
00:05 <Mekkis> and Andoran and Cheliax
01:31 <Mekkis> wow
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01:40 <Mekkis> I already have a copy of Throaty Mermaid
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02:58 <Mekkis> Brunius, do you have Sniper in the Deep?
03:10 <Brunius> Not yet, I'll buy it soon
03:57 <Mekkis> I suggest you get it soon: the blurb makes it sound like it will require some... Interesting... rules
05:55 <Mekkis> damn
06:19 <Mekkis> this "order $100 or more and get free shipping" offer is making me try and find $57 more of product to buy
07:35 <Mekkis> hmmm
07:38 <Mekkis> miniatures
11:48 <Mekkis> Brunius, you need this:
11:55 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8lzm?Large-Nuke-Marker
12:15 <Brunius> Why?
15:38 <mort-> Gee. A side effect of entangled is uh
15:48 <Mekkis> DIFFICULT TERRAIN
15:52 <Mekkis> to everyone who isn't a druid!
16:02 <mort-> Concentration to cast spell
16:15 <mort-> And worst case he can't 5 ft step
16:16 <mort-> Lol
16:18 <mort-> Poor guy
16:23 <Mekkis> no
16:28 <Mekkis> yeah
16:31 <Mekkis> so Brunius 
16:37 <mort-> So he gets to make 2 concentration checks
16:46 <mort-> What a way uh to go
16:49 <Mekkis> want to adjudicate mort- getting tangled up with a bard?
17:20 <mort-> Mort will probably say can i dance with you lol
17:27 <mort-> She is fluffy
17:31 <Mekkis> mmm
17:53 <mort-> Ok that's a twisted way to fk up an enemy caster?
17:56 <Brunius> Not really
18:00 <Spaceshot> get levitation boots :P
18:09 <mort-> Entangle him?
18:23 <Mekkis> Brunius, you don't actually need to do anything, except provide proof that readied actions are properly readied
18:23 <mort-> Sorry my entangle isn't something that boots get you out of
18:50 <Mekkis> is Hydrazine around?
19:02 <mort-> Not at this time of the day
19:08 <mort-> Be nice he is sleeping
19:11 <Mekkis> or tristen 
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19:21 <mort-> Trist may be
19:26 <mort-> Heard him talking just now
19:31 <Brunius> Man
19:43 <Brunius> It looks like all my money is going to go towards cons
19:45 <Brunius> Forever and ever.
19:55 <mort-> Lets see what entangled does
19:59 <Mekkis> that's ok
20:03 <Mekkis> <?entangled
20:04 <diebot> The character is ensnared. Being entangled impedes movement, but does not entirely prevent it unless the bonds are anchored to an immobile object or tethered by an opposing force. An entangled creature moves at half speed, cannot run or charge, and takes a 2 penalty on all attack rolls and a 4 penalty to Dexterity. An
20:05 <diebot> entangled character who attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 15 + spell level) or lose the spell.
20:24 <Mekkis> Brunius, as your income increases, it means you'll be able to travel to bigger abd better cons!
20:26 <mort-> That's for khaz
20:27 <tristen> whassup mekks?
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20:33 <mort-> Not mort
20:41 <Brunius> Who says my income will ever increase
20:44 <Mekkis> could you judge mort- getting tangled with a bard
20:50 <Brunius> Maybe I'll just become a station rat
20:55 <Mekkis> Brunius, newstart pays approx $450 a fortnight
20:59 <mort-> What a twisted fashion to try to stop enemy spell casters
21:00 <Brunius> And be a station rat till I overdose
21:02 <Mekkis> I think that's more than you get at the moment!
21:05 <Brunius> and die.
21:58 <mort-> The problem is mort uh is meant to disable not kill
22:05 <Brunius> I get about $10 a fortnight atm
22:11 <Mekkis> so
22:16 <Mekkis> newstart will give you more
22:17 <mort-> So i really don't have offensive shit :d
22:18 <Mekkis> simple!
22:26 <Mekkis> mort-, disabling is enough, right?
22:30 <mort-> Only have feathers.
22:41 <mort-> And shiny dust!
23:04 <Mekkis> sure
23:05 <Mekkis> :S
23:17 <mort-> I let other people do the dirty work for me
23:33 <mort-> Literally
23:56 <mort-> I also don't have ca atm
24:09 <mort-> I can urm keep you out of a fight
24:16 <mort-> But to actually kill 2 things
24:22 <mort-> Its hard
24:40 <Spaceshot> newstart?
24:58 <Brunius> Anyone know how to make mIRC keep PMs in the main window?
25:04 <Brunius> Spaceshot: For people out of work.
25:08 <Brunius> You go to their course thing
25:15 <Brunius> Apply for 6 jobs a fortnight
25:19 <Mekkis> ten
25:24 <Mekkis> ask Avatar
25:25 <Brunius> 10 is it ?
25:27 <Mekkis> he's on it now
25:32 <Mekkis> I WAS on it in 2010
25:35 <Mekkis> things might have changed
25:40 <Brunius> And then they give you cash so you don't starve
25:44 <Spaceshot> oh, youth allowance/study cash whatever it's called equiv
25:49 <Spaceshot> for unemployed
25:49 <Spaceshot> gotcha
25:53 <mort-> Ok maybe i should load up rime
25:58 <Mekkis> (or in my case, to shove into the stock market)
26:06 <Brunius> Trust Mekkis
26:21 <mort-> Ironic thing. I'm the only guy who won't benefit from it
26:35 <Brunius> No windows, I accidentally double clicked the display driver update, I actually don't want to run it
26:38 <Brunius> Hurrdurr
26:45 <mort-> Lets see what's morts concentration check...
26:50 <Avatar> yeah I'm on newstart
26:51 <Mekkis> Brunius, so don't use windows
27:07 <Brunius> What other OS can run bf3 yo
27:19 <mort-> +7+2
27:20 <Mekkis> bf3 sucks!
27:26 <Mekkis> and I'
27:28 <Brunius> YOU SUCK
27:30 <mort-> Say a nice level 1 spell
27:31 <Mekkis> am sure that linux could
27:40 <Mekkis> if you put some effort into it
27:48 <Brunius> I don't want to put effort into it though
28:03 <Mekkis> think of how much more employable linux skills will make you
28:10 <mort-> +9 to concentration
28:11 <mort-> !throw 1d20+9 concentration
28:11 <diebot> mort-, concentration: [1d20=17] 26
28:22 <mort-> Lol
28:30 <mort-> But he has to do it twice
28:36 <Avatar> yeah get some skills under your belt
28:40 <Brunius> Linux skills will make them more likely to employ me as a civil engineer?
28:41 <Avatar> chicks dig skills
28:50 <mort-> What a warped way
28:59 <Mekkis> Brunius, yes
29:02 <Brunius> Avatar: I thought you said relationships were for suckers?
29:14 <Avatar> I am closing off a bunch of jobs just because I don't know how to do shit like use linux, sql, php etc
29:29 <Mekkis> Brunius, would you rather be a sucker with a girlfriend, or a non-sucker without
29:42 <Brunius> Definetely a sucker with.
29:53 <Avatar> I'd recommend anyone try it once
30:02 <Brunius> Why the hell can I never spell definetely correctly.
30:26 <Spaceshot> Avatar: most of those jobs could be solved by google
31:18 <mort-> Entangled creatures don't 5 ft step do they?
31:27 <Mekkis> Brunius, one thing an engineer (any type of engineer) needs to ab able to do is relate with the client
31:37 <Avatar> bit more than just 'solved by google'
31:45 <Avatar> that's only a starting point
31:59 <Brunius> Fuck
32:04 <Brunius> I'm out of here then
32:11 <Avatar> i know right
41:11 <Brunius> Hey, lightning
44:04 <Spaceshot> brunius, to be honest, having a girlfriend isn't always rainbows and lollypops
44:05 <Spaceshot> :P
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44:16 <Brunius> no shit?
44:35 <Spaceshot> lots of rage
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46:30 <Brunius> Oh, well I never thought that would fucking happen
46:38 <Brunius> Better never ever get a girlfriend.
46:48 <Spaceshot> hahaha
46:54 <Spaceshot> don't backsas me boy
47:12 <Spaceshot> maybe it's just my expectations never being lived up to
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49:10 <Spaceshot> but yea I have issues
49:16 <Spaceshot> so don't take my word as being final
49:52 <Avatar> try it once
50:03 <Avatar> dont' rush yourself
50:23 <Spaceshot> yea, that was one of my problems
50:32 <Spaceshot> well... not really, but a bit
52:00 <Spaceshot> either way, to my knowledge, you're better off living with someone you can have fun with, relate with, tell your deepest secrets with, cry with/to them, help them, be helped by them
52:00 <Avatar> what's a good alchemist name
52:05 <Spaceshot> than someone you just regularly screw :P
52:18 <Spaceshot> what's the feel of the alchemist & race?
52:22 <Avatar> your oracle is Ava right
52:25 <Avatar> I'll be Spa
52:29 <Spaceshot> haha
52:42 <Avatar> maybe Spack
52:48 <Avatar> oh that doesn't work
52:51 <Spaceshot> yea spack is way better than spa
52:52 <Avatar> hmmm
52:59 <Spaceshot> Spak?
53:01 <Mekkis> gnomes make good alchemists
53:08 <Spaceshot> mekkis, shh
53:11 <Mekkis> a female gnome named Spa would work
53:12 <Avatar> maybe just Spacer
53:16 <Spaceshot> they don't even get bonus int
53:21 <Avatar> I'm not going to be a gnome
53:32 <Spaceshot> and alchemists don't need dex unless they're going bomb whore
53:32 <Avatar> I have no love for gnomes, roleplaying or mechanically
53:38 <Spaceshot> same
53:41 <Avatar> I'll play halfling before gnome
53:48 <Spaceshot> I love halflings
53:56 <Spaceshot> halfling barbarians are funny
54:01 <Avatar> spacer seems a bit lame
54:33 <Avatar> I might actually have to think of a proper name
57:00 <Mekkis> think of a concept first
57:12 <Mort-> Lol
57:12 <Mort-> Same for me
57:13 <Mort-> I rather be a halfling then a gnome
00:59 <Spaceshot> meh
01:25 <Spaceshot> it's it normal for me being depressed and wanting to whine about girlfriend issues?
01:37 <Avatar> no, please don't
01:54 <Spaceshot> you're nice
01:59 <Spaceshot> thanks for caring :P
02:11 <Avatar> I thought you'd appreciate an honest answer
02:11 <Mort-> Not creating anyone atm
02:12 <Mort-> Anyway
02:12 * Mort- sits and mucks
02:12 <Mort-> Actually mort is supposed to be the uh know it all
02:12 <Mort-> Who pulls weird stuff out of her bag
02:12 <Mort-> When the party needs :p
02:12 <Mort-> Do i actually blast anything with my stick?
02:26 <Mort-> Not even sure what i have in my bag...
02:33 <Mort-> Its a whole huge list
02:35 <Spaceshot> wow mort lagged a bit
02:39 <Mort-> Well anyway
02:47 <Mort-> Don't really have a bf
02:51 <Mort-> No interest
02:58 <Mort-> So. Point is moot
02:59 <Spaceshot> Avatar: I would prefer it if I were also honest about anything I do/say :P
03:09 <Mort-> I probably behave like a nun anyway
03:44 <Spaceshot> heh, mort as a nun sounds funny
03:59 <Mort-> In real life
04:04 <Spaceshot> so many asexual people here
04:20 <Mort-> In game mort would probably grin and dance with you :p
04:21 <Avatar> I'll call him sparky
04:31 <Mort-> I like my weasel
04:34 <Mort-> Socks lol
04:36 <Mort-> :d
05:10 <Mekkis> asexual?
05:27 <Avatar> yeah I'm pretty sure none of us are asexual
05:31 <Spaceshot> you seriously don't know what that means?
05:33 <Spaceshot> :P
05:50 <Mekkis> I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion
05:53 <Mekkis> I know what it means
06:14 <Mort-> Bleh I'm so full
06:57 <Mort-> Don't feel like eating dinner
07:09 <Spaceshot> costantly  actively here or working (or both in many cases), never caring to talk about the opposite sex besides a character idea
07:22 <Spaceshot> just thought putting things together came to that conclusion
07:35 <Spaceshot> either that, or you all don't care to talk about your personal non gaming life here :P
07:36 <Mort-> Gah. Why is the only person who will benefit from the whole thing
07:39 <Mort-> My party?
08:08 <Avatar> Heart of the Wilderness: Humans raised in the wild learn the hard way that only the strong survive. They gain a bonus equal to half their character level on Survival checks. They also gain a +5 bonus on Constitution checks to stabilize when dying and add half their character level to their Constitution score when determining the negative hit point total necessary to kill them. This racial trait 
08:08 <Avatar> replaces the skilled racial trait.
08:10 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, if I treated you based on the way you act on IRC, I'd be bringing a baseball bat to Conquest
08:11 <Avatar> this is pretty impressive
08:39 <Spaceshot> haha
08:51 <Spaceshot> I'm fucking shy
09:04 <Mekkis> you, but you're a douche on IRC
09:06 <Spaceshot> guess why I decided to make a deaf character for IRL
09:13 <Avatar> he's not shy at all
09:17 <Spaceshot> different interpretations
09:24 <Spaceshot> Avatar: I am to some extent
09:29 <Avatar> don't lie
09:31 <Spaceshot> I'm either shy or exploding
09:35 <Spaceshot> there's no middle ground
11:05 <Spaceshot> but my IRL shyness is most likely due to my speech impediment (which I know everyone usually says it's not a big deal, but to me it is blah blah blah) which might all be due to my anxiety shit
11:45 <Mort-> No violence
11:52 <Mort-> Geddit?
12:00 <Mort-> No base ball bats.
12:22 <Spaceshot> also, avatar would you consider me normal, like the way I ac?
12:24 <Spaceshot> act*
14:02 <Avatar> yeah
14:05 <Avatar> you just talk a lot
14:20 <Spaceshot> heh
14:28 <Avatar> if you hadn't said you have a hundred things wrong with you, I'd be none the wiser
14:29 <Spaceshot> I expected the lots of talking to be a key point
14:39 <Spaceshot> really?
14:57 <Spaceshot> and supposedly, I've only got dysthemia and anxiety issues, says the quacks
16:17 <Spaceshot> and sorry if I'm a be hesitant to believing you about this
17:42 <Avatar> don't apologise to me
17:45 <Avatar> apologise to yourself
17:54 <Spaceshot> why?
18:06 <Spaceshot> I don't care about my wellbeing nor my existance
18:16 <Spaceshot> been like that quite some time
19:09 <Spaceshot> in the end if I didn't care, I'd be depressed balling wreck
19:20 <Spaceshot> which I believe is a lot worse
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20:53 <Avatar> do you reckon it would be stupid for an alchemist to take rapid shot before taking precise shot?
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21:28 <Spaceshot> it'd be funny
21:36 <Spaceshot> though I'd be standing behind that character
24:53 <Spaceshot> and yea, I should probably stop giving brunius advice
25:09 <Spaceshot> my life isn't really one that should be taken as an example of good or bad
25:14 <Spaceshot> just pitied
36:57 <Mekkis> I'm sure you've made some decisions you could have done better
38:34 <Spaceshot> some would be an understatement :P
41:17 <Mekkis> that can be turned into advice
41:56 <Spaceshot> I still think since I'm still not learning from the mistakes myself, that giving advice on those matters aren't the best
42:27 <Spaceshot> but that hit's the personal part of shit that I'm not sure if you either care enough to listen, or I care to explain
42:29 <Spaceshot> so all's good :P
42:41 <Spaceshot> I'm not dead and not intending to be any time soon
42:49 <Mekkis> at least that way others might not make the same mistakes
43:11 <Spaceshot> well... they're pretty easy mistakes to avoid
43:15 <Spaceshot> most people don't do them anyway
43:45 <Spaceshot> one being not having a reasonable career goal/choice by the age of 20 :P
52:24 <Avatar> I still don't have a career goal except for what I've picked up to date
52:33 <Spaceshot> you've had a job though
52:39 <Avatar> yeah it's been no real issue
52:49 <Spaceshot> and roughly know what type of job you don't mind being in for possibly years on end
53:05 <Avatar> but I didn't know that before I did it and I was still fine
53:30 <Spaceshot> yes, but you don't suffer anxiety :P
53:43 <Spaceshot> I really don't like having to think about the future
53:46 <Spaceshot> too much to worry about
58:12 <Avatar> damn it the only trait that gives acrobatics as a class skill requires me to be andoran
58:45 <Avatar> I can't go andoran again, I just can't
58:55 <Spaceshot> slaves are bad, mmk
59:12 <Avatar> no 
59:17 <Mekkis> taking a faction for the purpose of getting a trait is Very Bad
59:32 <Avatar> whatever, I don't want to be andoran to take it
59:41 <Spaceshot> lol, tell that to osarion tomb raiders
59:41 <Spaceshot> :P
59:44 <Avatar> is there another one
59:50 <Spaceshot> probably
59:52 <Spaceshot> gimme a sec
00:17 <Spaceshot> http://gallery.rptools.net/d/59878-4/PFS+FEATS+_amp_+TRAITS+LIST+6b-2010_001.pdf
00:19 <Spaceshot> check that
01:27 <Avatar> nope
01:52 <Spaceshot> guess not
02:02 <Spaceshot> why do you require acrobatics as an alchemist?
02:03 <Avatar> guess I'll have to go andoran
02:08 <Avatar> to tumble
02:14 <Avatar> and balance and jump
02:23 <Spaceshot> do you require it?
02:29 <Spaceshot> do you need the +3 class bonus?
03:02 <Avatar> I don't require anything man
03:40 <Spaceshot> then don't go andoran if you don't want to be andoran
04:08 <Avatar> but I want acrobatics
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06:01 <Avatar> actually the andoran one doesn't really do it properly
06:09 <Avatar> while on board a vessel afloat
06:11 <Avatar> that's shit
08:22 <Spaceshot> heh
08:41 <Spaceshot> anywho, time to go to sleep and possibly question existance and all that
08:57 <Spaceshot> have fun with your alchemist to add to your list of level 1s :P
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19:33 <Mekkis> I am very sad about SKR's rulings on monks
21:05 <Avatar> sounds like he fixed something
21:15 <Mekkis> nope
21:22 <Mekkis> monks sucked to start with
21:27 <Mekkis> he just made them suck more
21:38 <Avatar> ahh so you found a way to powergame them and now he broke it
21:45 <Mekkis> nope
21:50 <Avatar> lolllllll
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23:46 * Mort- is mucking.
27:47 * Mort- just rests
31:36 <Mekkis> after all, Avatar probably thinks monks are brokn
31:38 <Mekkis> broken
40:38 <Avatar> I'm sure you could break one
40:45 <Mekkis> I'm not
40:46 <Avatar> or could've before SKR got to it !
41:19 <Mort-> Anyway mek
41:21 <Mort-> I'm home now
41:32 <Mort-> If you want to try anything
41:55 <Mekkis> sure
42:01 <Mekkis> I'll break out itzamna
42:15 <Mort-> K ill get on comp irc
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43:59 <Mekkis> ipv4.nl.ti4200.info port 4000
44:23 <Mort> I havent been mort
44:25 <Mort> for so long
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45:00 Mort is now known as Mort-
45:03 <Mort-> and Im really unused to killing
45:04 <Mort-> lol
45:59 <Mort-> not werking
46:14 <Itzamna> oops 
46:16 <Itzamna> wrong IP
46:22 <Mort-> nubcake
46:22 <Mort-> :D
46:26 * Mort- wags her tail happily
46:28 <Mort-> lets go somwehre else
46:34 <Itzamna>  6tunnel -v -d -l 109.235.52.28 4000 2001:5c0:150d:1800:21f:16ff:fe21:a90d 4000
46:42 <Mort-> you kiding me?
46:49 <Mort-> so what in lucifers name is the ip add
46:52 <Itzamna> yep
46:52 <Mort-> that really really long string?
46:58 <Itzamna> the address is actually
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47:07 <Itzamna> 2406:a000:f000:4400:21f:16ff:fe21:a90d
47:08 <Mort-> the host was not ofund
47:12 <Mort-> anwyay
47:26 <Mort-> k trying again
47:30 <Itzamna> but I've set up a tunnel via ipv4.nl.ti4200.info
47:40 <Mort-> yeah but neither are working
47:41 <Mort-> oint is
47:43 <Mort-> oh great one
47:55 <Mort-> try try again?
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