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03:19 <Mort-> one feat gone :(
03:36 <Mort-> do I really have to rely on UMD that much?
03:42 <Mort-> I thought it was a last resort kind of thing
06:04 <Mort-> khaz could hide his class lolzzz..
06:09 <Mort-> Im a sinple fighter! :P
06:14 <Mort-> riiiggghhhht
06:23 <Mort-> the moment I cast a spell and whack in the middle of a fight..it gets all given away
07:43 <Mort-> Emulate an Ability Score: To cast a spell from a scroll, you need a high score in the appropriate ability (Intelligence for wizard spells, Wisdom for divine spells, or Charisma for sorcerer or bard spells). Your effective ability score (appropriate to the class you're emulating when you try to cast the spell from the scroll) is your Use Magic Device check result minus 15. If you already have a 
07:43 <Mort-> high enough score in the appropriate ability, you don't need to make this check.
07:45 <Mort-> what does this mean
08:48 <Mort-> -2 for wis
15:56 <Mort-> k read forums and get it
16:02 <Mort-> I should try not to use UMD..
18:03 <Mort-> freedom of movement and deathward can be used as int spells
18:09 <Mort-> from alchemist/witch spell list
18:50 <Mort-> but I suppose yes for better UMD...
30:13 <Mort-> Prerequisites: Int 13, Cha 13, familiar class feature.
30:14 <Mort-> wotn work
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07:04 <Brunius> you worker
07:00 <Avatar> zzzzz
03:09 <Brunius> Should I bring a minifig as my mini
06:11 <Avatar> yes
06:16 <Avatar> bring one for me also
06:37 <Brunius> You realise I mean a lego man right?
06:52 <Brunius> What are you playing?
06:58 <Brunius> Witch?
07:50 <Brunius> Hmm, minifigs are out of scale
07:55 <Brunius> So my horse will end up looking huge
09:39 <Avatar> yeah witch
09:48 <Avatar> I don't care if it's a lego witch
09:56 <Avatar> I don't care if it's a 20c coin, really
19:27 <Brunius> ha
19:34 <Brunius> Green or black hat?
19:41 <Brunius> brown or grey wand?
25:47 <Brunius> black and brown it is
34:38 <Avatar> black and green
34:43 <Avatar> snickers has green skin!
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57:36 <Mort-> nothing on going today?
57:41 <Mort-> might go cook spaghetti
58:06 <Mort-> or maybe figure out more magi..
59:12 <Hydrazine> figure out you.
59:29 <Hydrazine> Radiation cookies!
59:30 <Mort-> btw yeah as I said hydra
59:36 <Mort-> Grull went to his first scenario
59:38 <Mort-> carrying a shield
59:45 <Mort-> becuase YOU CANT TWF AT 1
59:54 <Hydrazine> ...
00:14 <Hydrazine> You mean you didn't want to twf at level 1.
00:32 <Mort-> At 2nd level, a ranger must select one of two (seven, if styles from Advanced Player's Guide are allowed) combat styles to pursue: archery or two-weapon combat (Note: Advanced Player's Guide adds 5 new combat style options: crossbow, mounted combat, natural weapon, two-handed weapon, and weapon and shield).
00:33 <Mort-> read
00:47 <Mort-> The ranger's expertise manifests in the form of bonus feats at 2nd, 6th, 10th, 14th, and 18th level. He can choose feats from his selected combat style, even if he does not have the normal prerequisites.
00:50 <Hydrazine> You can take it AS A NORMAL FEAT
00:55 <Mort-> ONLY after level 2
00:58 <Hydrazine> AND STOP BEING A TARD.
01:00 <Mort-> AFTER I selected the style
01:12 <Hydrazine> is there a "This feat is not available to a level 1 ranger' clause?
01:23 <Mort-> no bu tI dont meet the dex requirements
01:29 <Mort-> before I select the combat style
01:32 <Hydrazine> thats your own damn fault.
01:35 <Mort-> Im not running in with 15 dex
01:39 <Mort-> it can wait till 2
01:45 <Mort-> why do you need so much dex anyway
01:45 <Hydrazine> Quit acting like its the game not letting you do it.
01:46 <Mort-> screw it :P
01:48 <Mort-> k
01:52 <Mort-> Im not running 15 dex
02:00 * Mort- just thinks hydra is grouchy today and goes forget it
03:13 <Hydrazine> Its like you're telling me you can't take it because something says you can't. And it bothered me
03:24 <Hydrazine> So when you gonna get double slice?
03:53 <Mort-> this is going to be weird..
03:59 <Mort-> do I get to reroll since its my first scenario with him?
04:01 <Mort-> arggh
04:54 <Mort-> yeah I think there is aproblem
05:02 <Mort-> it means I cant take 2handed style feats whenever I want to which means
05:04 <Mort-> Im fked
05:05 <Mort-> sigh
05:09 <Mort-> as in 2 weapon fighting feats
05:26 <Mort-> need to tweak..
05:47 <Mort-> rule no.1 try not to do things in a hurry, you probably fk up somewhere..
06:00 <Mort-> again the night before I was urmm getting eaten by devils..
06:12 <Mort-> the night before before that, I was tumbling around with deceased..
06:43 <Hydrazine> why can't you take the other feats when you want to?
07:01 <Hydrazine> What style feats do you want, besides twf, imp twf and greater twf?
07:38 <Mort-> k
07:40 <Mort-> tweaking wis down 1
07:41 <Mort-> dex =1
07:43 <Mort-> +1
07:48 <Mort-> so I get to take twf at 1
07:55 <Mort-> I wanted to go into a fight wiht 12 dex lolzzz..
09:09 <Mort-> double slice mm
11:09 <Mort-> k fixed it
11:11 <Mort-> geez
11:26 <Mort-> btw look at THIS horrible spell..
54:58 <Mort-> gah no one ever told you what happens when you turn into a bear
17:15 <Hydrazine> you get a sudden craving for Ballig.
17:24 <Mort-> noo...
17:28 <Mort-> can I cast in bear form?
17:45 <Mort-> UMD is like...(Grab every low level spell in the spellbook! I can use them all!)
17:59 <Mort-> Especially once Balaar comes into the picture
18:04 <Mort-> I almost think he's here already :(
18:56 <Mort-> 3 - toughness, close range
18:56 <Mort-> 5 - improved familiar, combat reflexes
18:56 <Mort-> 6 - Familiar
18:56 <Mort-> 7 - Heavy armor proficiency
18:56 <Mort-> 9 - Intensify spell, spell blending (heroism)
19:03 <Mort-> I think my progression is going ot look something like that
19:15 <Mort-> now Im just trying ot learn more about shapeshifting incase I turn bear someday
20:26 <Hydrazine> theres a feat to cast in animal form.
20:31 <Mort-> natural spells
20:33 <Mort-> NOT arcane spells
20:36 <Mort-> Im not a fekking druid
20:44 <Mort-> Im not truly going to turn msyelf into a bear..
20:46 <Mort-> aspect of bear maybe
21:06 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/a/aspect-of-the-bear
21:54 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/natural-spell---final
21:55 <Mort-> cant get that
21:56 <Hydrazine> oh.
22:25 <Mort-> funniest part is when I start doing bless weapon from wand like a paladin..
22:27 <Mort-> god..
22:40 <Mort-> but I need my urm..2nd half(an IMP?!)
22:45 <Mort-> in order to fake stuff properly
22:53 <Mort-> and I have a feeling khaz will be crippled if you take his imp out of the picture
25:23 <Mort-> but htere are issues when it comes to scrolls..
25:33 <Mort-> lets just keep it ot anything <3 if possible, 4 as well
28:59 * Mort- boggles at the thought of khaz using divine favor..geezus
30:04 <Mort-> There is something inherently wrong I htink in getting imp to make me look like a paladin..
30:06 <Mort-> geezus
35:35 <Mort-> anwyay without UMD I cant do that kind of shit, and I need around 7 before my UMD kicks in..in which by that time...balaar will find me
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07:05 <Mekkis> .
08:17 <Mort-> hi mekkis
08:25 <Mort-> this is going to be fking funny
08:31 <Mekkis> what
08:35 <Mort-> I have a feeling khaz might start being able to pass off
08:38 <Mort-> as a pally soon
08:42 <Mort-> pallies have such nice level1 spells!
08:56 * Mort- drools over bless weapon..divine favour..
09:12 <Mort-> its like letting someone loose in the market and go...GRAB WHATEVER YOU WANT
09:28 <Mort-> but its somehow inherently wrong to get an Imp to..bless your weapon?
11:19 <Mekkis> no
11:23 <Mekkis> but it doesn't work
11:27 <Mort-> hwy not?
11:29 <Mekkis> it has to be YOU
11:30 <Mort-> is it you only?
11:32 <Mort-> better go check
11:35 <Mort-> ARGH
11:38 <Mort-> my UMD sux donkey ballz..
12:08 <Mort-> Range touch
12:08 <Mort-> Target weapon touched
12:08 <Mort-> Duration 1 min./level
12:11 <Mort-> SO THERE
12:14 <Mort-> he touches MY weapon
12:24 <Mekkis> was thinking holy sword
12:39 <Mort-> dude mek
12:41 <Mort-> its level 7
12:47 <Mort-> for UMD please stick to spells below level 4
13:02 <Mort-> I cant take the evolution
13:04 <Mort-> my cha is too low
13:05 <Mort-> I dumped it..
13:14 <Mort-> I definitely did NOT build khaz to UMD everything under the sun
13:52 <Mort-> Prerequisites: Int 13, Cha 13, familiar class feature.
14:17 <Mort-> I tell you though running around with a holy sword. and an IMP
14:19 <Mort-> is just WRONG.
14:20 <Mort-> lol
17:53 <Mekkis> evolution?
18:35 <Mort-> yeah I cant take it
18:37 <Mort-> 7 cha...
18:39 <Mort-> wait long long..
19:00 <Mekkis> you know, it's called "Abuse Magic Device"
19:09 <Mort-> yeah
19:19 <Mort-> the only reason why khaz decided to abuse magic device
19:28 <Mort-> is because last scenario no one could use a CLW wand
19:34 <Mort-> THATS IT.
19:38 <Mort-> Im going ot provide MY own healing.
20:52 <Mort-> seriously not fair. Sweet ol' mort never had to use it
23:20 <Mort-> strangely enough almost ALL my characters have UMD..
23:31 <Mort-> (too used to trying to UMD boots of sun soul in MOTB)
23:54 <Mort-> the - OOOH got dodge bonus! Grab!
27:32 <Mekkis> all boots gave dodge bonuses
27:46 <Mort-> well I wanted teh big boots:P
27:49 <Mort-> so I umded it all the way..
27:58 <Mort-> monk only you know
29:42 <Mort-> wth I can UMD hold person?
29:46 <Mort-> not taht itd be much good
30:59 <Mekkis> the Wonderseekeds should be a PFS-legal faction
31:11 <Mort-> not more gnomes..
31:12 * Mort- groans
31:20 <Mort-> Its a little too early in the morning mek
32:15 <Mort-> Wand Mastery (Su)	-	Use your Intelligence modifier instead of the minimum modifier needed to cast a spell that level for the DC when using a wand
32:16 <Mort-> hrmmm
32:27 <Mort-> 12+3/4 = 15 still
32:29 <Mort-> sort of shitty
32:32 <Mort-> not holding anyone that way
32:54 <Mort-> btw mekkis
32:58 <Mort-> how do you intend ot use a wand of silence
33:02 <Mort-> what would the DC be on it - 12..?
34:53 <Mekkis> read silence
35:37 <Mort-> I can UMD shit too
36:36 <Mort-> so you cast it on the space
36:38 <Mort-> thats a good idea
36:41 <Mort-> no saves and he shuts up
36:46 <Mort-> maybe mort should get it
36:53 <Mekkis> no
36:56 <Mekkis> he casts it on himself
37:12 <Mort-> you would run
37:14 <Mort-> to the enemy caster?
37:26 <Mekkis> then it's "ready an action to move to the enemy caster when he starts casting a spell"
37:31 <Mort-> that effectively disables you as well unless 
37:42 <Mort-> and whath appens if hte enemy caster is beside all kinds of nasties
37:45 <Mort-> and how about your allies
37:52 <Mort-> I rahter cast it on the space next to the guy
38:19 <Mort-> Upon the casting of this spell, complete silence prevails in the affected area. All sound is stopped: Conversation is impossible, spells with verbal components cannot be cast, and no noise whatsoever issues from, enters, or passes through the area. The spell can be cast on a point in space, but the effect is stationary unless cast on a mobile object. 
38:31 <Mort-> again he can move out next round
38:32 <Mort-> it means you cannot cast
38:39 <Mort-> and whoever around you cant cast either
38:44 <Mort-> and you put yourself possibly in mele range
38:52 <Mort-> imagine if the boss is some caster hiding behind his tank minions
38:54 <Mort-> you would run ot him?
38:57 <Mort-> taking aoos all the way?
40:46 <Mort-> would work if you were a tank..I think
40:56 <Mort-> mobile object mmmphh 
41:01 <Mort-> why not send your imp to do it
41:07 <Mort-> he moves faster then you. is flying.
41:15 <Mort-> and more importantly, invisible
43:29 <Mekkis> as I said
43:36 <Mekkis> the imp's doing it
43:52 <Mort-> yep
44:01 <Mort-> so imp casts silence on himself
44:06 <Mort-> then zips to hte opposing caster to have some fun
44:12 <Mort-> thats right
44:20 <Mort-> I could probalby do it on khaz, then send khaz runnign IN to have soem fun
44:24 <Mort-> but its still a tad suicidal haha
44:25 <Mekkis> indeed
44:27 <Mekkis> why
44:32 <Mekkis> imp has fly (good)
44:35 <Mort-> yeah
44:35 <Mekkis> or is it perfect?
44:41 <Mort-> 50 ft fly I think
45:01 <Mort-> acutally atm Im just eyeing allthe UMD stuff
45:25 <Mort-> buff line stuffs
46:24 <Mort-> fly 50 ft. (perfect)
46:28 <Mort-> send your little atom bomb in
49:00 <Mekkis> atom bomb is different
49:37 <Mekkis> it takes 10 minutes to cast
49:39 <Mort-> but seriously thats a good way to deal with casters
49:41 <Mort-> melee types I have some idea
49:56 <Mort-> but to disable a caster its a PITA
50:06 <Mort-> Im NOT grappling casters, leave it to hoku
50:49 <Mort-> Duration 1 round/level (D)
50:51 <Mort-> thats the problem
50:52 <Mort-> iuh OH
50:56 <Mort-> we have urm 2 rounds to silence
51:22 <Mort-> yes we could leave our wands with our IMP
51:31 <Mort-> and hope he triggers it properly
53:34 <Mekkis> three
54:08 <Mekkis> the real problem is the one-round casting time
11:19 <Mort-> tree?
11:24 <Mort-> three?
11:26 <Mort-> 2 rounds
11:39 <Mort-> silence is level 2
11:42 <Mort-> screw it, its tentacles
13:02 <Mekkis> per caster level
13:06 <Mekkis> not per spell level
13:08 <Mort-> the spell is level 2?
13:11 <Mort-> oh
13:15 <Mort-> so you mean if you cast from scroll
13:17 <Mort-> its YOUR level?
13:20 <Mort-> even?
13:21 <Mort-> wtf?
13:29 <Mekkis> it's the scroll's level
13:35 <Mekkis> unless you're casting it from a staff
13:47 <Mekkis> in which cast it's REALLY called Abuse Magic Device!
14:58 <Mort-> its a scroll
15:03 <Mort-> So. we have 2 rounds of silence.
15:14 <Mort-> inst it?
15:18 <Mort-> since the scroll is level 2
15:59 <Mekkis> three
16:07 <Mekkis> the scroll's a level 2 cleric spell
16:20 <Mekkis> so it's created at the lowest caster level available to cast that spell
37:50 <Mekkis> https://www.google.com.au/#q=stick+of+butter+half+cup&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&cad=b
44:31 <Hydrazine> 931 MeV = 3.57x10^-11 calories.
46:50 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, what levels are your characters?
47:03 <Hydrazine> 2 1 1.
47:29 <Hydrazine> Jerus is close to 3 I believe.
16:21 <Mort-> 2..4...
16:29 <Mort-> so yes we are talking on how to abuse..
16:49 <Mort-> sorry my aunt was around
16:56 <Mort-> ah k
17:02 <Mort-> 3 rounds Ill take your word for it
17:08 <Mort-> then the UMD check is for level 2 or 3?
18:38 <Mort-> next week I wont be around..on sat
18:46 <Mort-> cousins wedding
18:55 <Mort-> probably wont be in any condition to play on sunday
19:45 <Mort-> wait a minute..
19:48 <Mort-> Im getting confused
19:55 <Mort-> when you buy the spell - is it level 2 or 3 scroll
20:01 <Mort-> when you UMD it is it 2/3 scroll
20:47 <Mort-> great thank goodness I havent been UMDing shit yet
21:45 <Mort-> ah caster level is +2..
21:56 <Mort-> then for a wand what level is it at , mimum caster level
21:59 <Mort-> lets see
22:15 <Mort-> right lets see how to abuse bless weapon
23:15 <Mort-> bless weapon is a 5th LEVEL SPELL?!
23:17 <Mort-> (oh my god)
56:26 <Mekkis> I want to run Beggar's Pearl
04:31 <Mort-> mm
04:37 <Mort-> not enough peeps around
04:38 <Mort-> what level is it
05:01 <Mort-> trying ot understand UMD atm
05:06 <Mort-> and gettign a whole list of scrolls I want :P
05:28 <Mort-> I like freedom of movement and deathward..
05:40 <Mort-> but really..bless weapon sounds like 5th elvel scroll
05:45 <Mort-> thats the buying or the..?
05:50 <Mort-> how do you calculate the scroll cost
06:26 <Mort-> like silence - level 2 scroll?
06:29 <Mort-> por level 3 one
08:20 <Mekkis> spell level * caster level * 50
08:46 <Mort-> + or multiplied
08:58 <Mort-> and wand
09:06 <Mort-> argggh
09:08 <Mort-> this is giving me a headache..
10:19 <Mekkis> multiplied
11:14 <Mort-> same for wand?
11:47 <Mort-> 2 x 3 x 50 = 300
12:36 <Mort-> deathward would be 4 *6*50 then?
13:05 <Mort-> 1200
17:28 <Mekkis> wand is spell level * caster level * 750
17:37 <Mekkis> death ward's caster level is 7
17:39 <Mekkis> minimum
18:55 <Mort-> geezus
21:05 <Mort-> CL = minimum spell level + caster level = 7
21:05 <Mort-> k
37:12 <Mort-> The
37:12 <Mort-> price of a scroll is equal to the level of the spell × the
37:13 <Mort-> creator's caster level × 25 gp.
57:40 <Mekkis> that's what I've been saying all along
03:45 <Mort-> (oh dear I have a a headache..)
04:04 <Mort-> fly fly fly..
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21:42 <yeagel> hi
22:05 <Mort-> hi yeagel
22:06 <Mort-> we're mucking around
22:15 <Mort-> at least Im practicing with abuse magic device
22:25 <Mort-> trying to see how hard it is for an arcane casting class
22:27 <Mort-> to use urm..
22:31 <Mort-> a divine spell
22:34 <Mort-> and generally swearing all the way
22:37 <Mort-> HYDRAZINE
22:38 <Mort-> you there?
22:41 <Mort-> Mekkis you there?
22:56 <yeagel> haven't been online all week
23:03 <Mort-> I have a headache trying to learn about caster levels. I think I shouldnt be playing classes with mostly 16+ int
23:08 <Mort-> clearly my int roll isnt that good in RL :P
23:29 <Mort-> again, I generally do all kinds of shitty stuffs..
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00:18 <Mekkis> Mort-, what?
01:57 <Mort-> nothing
02:04 <Mort-> thought if yeagel was around we could run
02:14 <Mort-> so seriously, Nothing more then CL 4 for scrolls
02:18 <Mort-> else Ill fk myself up with UMD
02:20 * Mort- sighs
02:31 <Mort-> anwyay thats a future future future ability..if I live that long
03:12 <Mekkis> CL4 or spell level4 ?
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03:32 <Mort-> spell level 4
03:36 <Mort-> its pretty bad as it is
03:37 <Mekkis> that's CL7
03:39 <Mort-> since its usually CL 7
03:41 <Mekkis> there's a big difference
03:43 <Mort-> hard on me..
03:44 <Mort-> yeah
03:50 <Mort-> not ot metnion there is this little cluase as well
04:25 <Mort-> In addition, casting a spell from a scroll requires a minimum score (10 + spell level) in the appropriate ability. If you don't have a sufficient score in that ability, you must emulate the ability score with a separate Use Magic Device check. This use of the skill also applies to other spell completion magic items.
04:39 <Mekkis> yep
04:45 <Mort-> so yes if I want balaar to do funky stuff I better have a potion of owls wisdom
04:47 <Mort-> IN MY BAG.
05:02 <Mort-> Or, I can perform checks on other classes..
05:04 <Mort-> like witch.
05:42 <Mort-> his int is..marginally better
05:55 <Mort-> I think for most UMD we'll say its good to keep in spell levels 3 at most
06:21 <Mekkis> you're thinking about this too hard
06:46 <Mort-> really?
06:53 * Mort- has a headache pondering all morning master..
06:53 <Mort-> :D
07:23 <Mort-> IDEALLY I SHOULDNT BE Doing ANY OF THIS!
07:36 <Mekkis> correct!
08:17 <Mort-> Im just thinking if any shit goes wrong, and besides a little extra..urm divine funkie in the fight never hurt
08:31 <Mekkis> that's what YOU think
08:36 <Mekkis> is it what Khaz things?
08:38 <Mekkis> thinks?
08:45 <Mort-> atm
08:50 <Mort-> we havent worked it out yet
08:52 <Mort-> he probalby will run in, cast shield
08:53 <Mort-> start meleeing
08:59 <Mort-> now balaar is sitting around DOING nothing
09:03 <Mort-> so must as well make him useful..
09:05 <Mort-> throwing stuffies
09:16 <Mort-> I hate idlers..
09:18 <Mort-> well Mort does
09:23 <Mort-> I dont know how khaz thinks about it
09:47 <Mort-> he sure as heck doesnt mind extra buffs..
09:59 <Mort-> especially any shit that would improve his weapon damage roll, or attack roll
10:02 <Mort-> ac wouldnt come amiss too
10:13 <Mort-> but divine thingies well as long as you dont look at the source too much..are good to go
11:37 <Mort-> its a certainty that Ill probably take some damage in combat, in which I can get balaar to do a bit of self healing on me
11:44 <Mekkis> mmm
11:47 <Mort-> is it normal for high level scenarios to burn charges on their wands?
11:52 <Mort-> self healing part I got it
12:05 <Mort-> but assuming the combat hasnt started/monsters didnt manage to hit me cos Im so lucky..
12:13 <Mekkis> I have a computer here that isn't booting
12:15 <Mekkis> :(
12:15 <Mort-> I must as well do some buffing with my free "imp" right?
12:16 <Mort-> lol
12:19 <Mort-> kick it
12:20 <Mort-> harder
12:25 <Mekkis> it's not free
12:28 <Mort-> so now Im seeing what shit I can umd up
12:30 <Mort-> why?
12:32 <Mort-> hes free
12:35 <Mort-> what am I supposed to do with him
12:46 <Mort-> well unless I send him like an atom bomb to silence enemy casters
12:47 <Mekkis> he's not free
12:49 <Mort-> and also the point of see invis
12:50 <Mekkis> actually
13:00 <Mort-> if anyone catches him around hes' so dead..
13:36 <Mort-> point is about fighting. you can either kill them so fast they cant damage you
13:46 <Mort-> or you use battlefield control to ensure they cant really damage you much either
14:54 <Mort-> blinded/on the ground laughing things dont really do too much damage you know..generally
14:59 <Mort-> though blinding a spellcaster might not work too well
15:22 <Mekkis> you realise
15:30 * Mort- ponders
15:33 <Mekkis> that your imp familiar isn't actually free
15:36 * Mort- tail twitches
15:38 <Mort-> yes he isnt
15:42 <Mort-> but Im sorto f used to having him around
15:44 <Mekkis> you're spending one feat, and one magus arcana
15:45 <Mort-> he costs me 2 feats
15:47 <Mekkis> that's a lot!
15:47 <Mort-> that I must prepare for
15:49 <Mort-> magus arcana
15:52 <Mort-> I dont know what else to od with it
15:54 <Mort-> to be honest
15:57 <Mort-> one feat..yes
16:17 <Mort-> I dont really see what Id want out of magus arcana
16:36 <Mort-> except for spellblending(which is best done at later levels)
16:43 <Mort-> 9 or so that one Ill blend, probably heroism
17:34 <Mekkis> close range
17:37 <Mort-> at 3
17:39 <Mort-> done already
17:46 <Mort-> I dont know what ot do with my 6 one
18:03 <Mekkis> empower
18:22 <Mekkis> arcane accuracy
18:30 <Mort-> I dont know why people like it so much
18:35 <Mort-> I have 9 points per day
18:37 <Mort-> at least at 11
18:46 <Mort-> you spend 1 point of it
18:50 <Mort-> just to give yourself +3 for one round?
18:54 <Mort-> why dont you just use it to recall spells
18:57 <Mort-> taht can last longer
19:08 <Mekkis> Silent Magic - or Still Magic
19:14 <Mort-> 1 spell per day?
19:18 <Mekkis> yeah
19:20 <Mekkis> that's enough
19:21 * Mort- seriously doesnt get it
19:22 <Mort-> whats the point
19:31 <Mort-> if its silent just bash the crap out of the offending guy
19:32 <Mekkis> you only get grapped once
19:43 <Mort-> Im not easy to grapple
19:49 <Mort-> and my cmb is pretty decent
20:05 <Mort-> if Im grappled, I wont be able ot cast either.
20:52 <Mort-> no concentration check(even if I generally pwn them) is going ot let me cast while grappled
21:00 <Mort-> 10+ cmd of defender
21:07 <Mort-> if he could grapple me in the first place..
21:43 <Mort-> maybe the ghost blade thing would be nice
21:48 <Mort-> but its kinda costly to use
22:04 <Mort-> 2 points per enchant, but for a minute you use touch attacks to roll all your hits
22:19 <Mort-> thats about the only one that interests me
24:23 <Mort-> A brilliant energy weapon has its significant portion transformed into light, although this does not modify the item's weight. It always gives off light as a torch (20-foot radius). A brilliant energy weapon ignores nonliving matter. Armor and shield bonuses to AC (including any enhancement bonuses to that armor) do not count against it because the weapon passes through armor. (Dexterity, deflection, 
24:23 <Mort-> dodge, natural armor, and other such bonuses still apply.) 
24:24 <Mort-> hrmmmz
24:29 <Mort-> natural armor apply tough
24:30 <Mort-> mmmm
24:35 <Mort-> maybe not so nice
25:15 <Mort-> factored in close range at 3 already..
31:23 <Mort-> Reflection (Su)	Magus 15	Reflect a spell back at its caster
31:26 <Mort-> that one is the funny one
31:30 <Mort-> but super costly to use
31:36 <Mort-> and besides ILl never see it
36:43 <Mekkis> that's because this channel doesn't have enough drive :S
36:53 <Mort-> level 15
36:58 <Mort-> you got to be kiddin
37:01 <Mekkis> what?
37:01 <Mort-> PFS limit is 12 haha
37:02 <Mort-> I just oggled :D
37:03 <Mort-> lol
37:06 <Mekkis> one session per week
37:06 <Mort-> its a level 15 ability
37:09 <Mort-> you'll never
37:10 <Mort-> get to 15
37:11 <Mort-> on PFS
37:14 <Mekkis> one level per month
37:17 <Mekkis> right?
37:17 <Mort-> by 12we're all retired
37:20 <Mort-> nope
37:22 <Mekkis> you're 4th level right?
37:27 <Mort-> campaign limit is 12
37:28 <Mort-> for PFS
37:30 <Mort-> lol :D
37:35 <Mort-> Im 4th yeah
37:41 <Mort-> so before we even hit 15 we capped out :D
37:42 <Mekkis> so 13th level by the end of the year
37:44 <Mekkis> right?
37:48 <Mort-> probably
37:50 <Mort-> assuming I dont die
37:53 <Mekkis> (Eyes of the Ten ends at 13th)
37:56 <Mort-> (which is why I better remain sneaky)
37:58 <Mort-> haha
38:05 <Mekkis> then there are a bunch of sanctioned mods after that
38:07 <Mekkis> right?
38:09 <Mort-> khaz will be damn interesting ot play
38:10 <Mort-> I dont know
38:11 <Mort-> lol
38:12 <Mekkis> say one mod per month
38:15 <Mort-> I nub
38:15 <Mort-> :D
38:15 <Mort-> k
38:28 <Mekkis> so March next year, you'll hit 15th
38:29 <Mekkis> :)
38:31 <Mort-> lol
38:32 <Mort-> hehe
38:37 * Mort- giggles
38:45 <Mort-> but yeah Im here on sat and sunday nowz
39:04 <Mort-> but anwyay.. I REALLY have no idea. what to do with my bloody fekking magus arcana
39:05 <Mort-> well not much
39:09 <Mort-> except spell blend + familiar
39:26 <Mekkis> Unfortunately, that requires the "one session per week" to actually follow the advancement path
39:34 <Mort-> yes
39:40 <Mort-> and we're not getting any stuff done now
39:46 <Mort-> as for mort
39:50 <Mort-> I need ot work on her save dcs
39:52 <Mekkis> you keep bringing new characters
39:57 <Mort-> yeah I guess
40:01 <Mort-> but I cant play on older ones
40:05 <Mort-> so you mean I should specialize?
40:06 <Mort-> lol
40:15 * Mort- cant help zipping in too many directions at once
40:20 <Mekkis> (I imagine that Someone's going to get angry at me for this, but still)
40:22 <Mekkis> YES
40:30 <Mort-> anything you say, master.
40:33 <Mekkis> I think that you should keep your characters two levels apart
40:38 <Mort-> yes
40:42 <Mort-> youre right on that yep
40:47 <Mort-> suuure next one I run mort?
40:49 <Mort-> I dont mind her :D
40:53 <Mort-> shes fluffehh..
40:59 <Mekkis> when you've got Mort at 7th, Khaz at 5th, and whatever your third is at 3rd
41:02 <Mort-> Oh btw master, dont tell me to leave gnomes alone
41:02 <Mort-> k
41:05 <Mekkis> you can look at making a new character
41:08 <Mort-> k
41:10 <Mekkis> :S
41:14 <Mort-> Gnomes r so good to punt!
41:18 * Mort- cant help it!
41:28 <Mekkis> not all Gnomes are Grobner
41:38 <Mekkis> got MoTB installed?
41:52 <Mort-> not on this
41:53 <Mort-> sigh
44:24 <Mort-> checkign my other pc
44:31 <Mort-> this laptop is too nub to motb..wihtout laggin shit out
45:37 <Mort-> afking
57:04 <Mort-> back
57:08 <Mort-> and my other comp istn working
57:10 <Mort-> ah wellz
59:17 <Mort-> Can the PCs’ team of contestants survive six bouts in the Grand Pavilion arena against the mightiest combatants and cleverest battle mages on Golarion? Can they prove their mettle in tests of mind and body? Can they foil the plans of an evil organization and its powerful allies who hope to destroy the Ruby Phoenix Tournament and see its champions dead? Step into the arena to find out!
59:35 * Mort- feels sorry for tristen..not sure if Id go for a tournament with 70 hp...anyway
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47:29 <Mort-> hi avatar
47:33 <Mort-> hows zit
47:36 * Mort- waits for tails
50:00 * Mort- nips Avatar-
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50:09 * Mort- nips Spaceshot
03:27 <Ballig> my first in-person PFS game and I won a special boon chronicle
04:10 * Mort- really wonders how the tournament went
04:12 * Mort- mucks
05:35 <Ballig> also got a free book that gives me a chronicle
06:00 <Avatar-> what was it
06:17 <Avatar-> the special one
06:22 <Ballig> the boon is I can select a type of combat maneuvre (grapple etc) and I can avoid AOOs using it if I take a -2 to CMB
06:39 <Ballig> maybe I should add it to Bobbob and make it Overrun
07:02 <Mort-> hey avatar-
07:07 <Mort-> how did it go!
07:12 <Ballig> he's still there, likely
07:14 * Mort- sits on paws and waits for tail
07:17 * Mort- sulks
07:22 * Mort- claws ballig
07:37 * Ballig declaws Mort-
07:55 <Mort-> you cant disarm natural weapons!
07:58 * Mort- sulks
08:15 <tristen> OH MY GOD
08:20 <Mort-> WHAT HAPPENED TRIS
08:25 * Mort- quickly runs to tris with bandages
08:27 <Ballig> did you all die horribly
08:32 * Mort- jump jumps on tris
08:32 <tristen> no no no!
08:37 <tristen> we HAD A BLAST!
08:40 <Mort-> okay cool
08:46 <Mort-> not too much blood on the floor?
08:53 * Mort- inspects tristen carefully
08:55 <tristen> none of it was ours!
08:58 <Mort-> okay lol
08:59 <Mort-> that easy?
09:03 <Mort-> Im suprised..
09:08 <Mort-> silence?
09:15 <tristen> it was pretty strategic
09:17 <Ballig> it's not a special, it's just a module
09:25 <tristen> liek it wasn't just
09:28 <tristen> hack slash
09:31 <tristen> who's left standing
09:42 <Mort-> ah k
09:47 <Mort-> I take it youre pretty good at hacking and slashing
09:49 <Mort-> CMW worked?
09:52 <tristen> the encounters were well conceived
10:01 <Mort-> I hope in lucifers name someone brought that stuff..all grounds convered?
10:03 <tristen> (tournament of skills)
10:03 <Mort-> invisiblity/fly
10:10 <Mort-> so its alot on your skill checks?
10:19 <tristen> more on strategic combat
10:23 <tristen> conditions
10:28 <tristen> i don't want to spoil
10:39 <Spaceshot> it was fun abusing it though :P
10:40 <tristen> but it was one hell of a fun day!
10:41 <Mort-> ah k
10:42 <Mort-> lol
10:55 <Mort-> I take it that you guys seem to have studied sun tzu's art of war manual pretty well
10:57 <Spaceshot> also, never knew a bard would be such a good beat stick
11:03 <Mort-> you bard?
11:05 <Mort-> or someone ran bard?
11:06 <tristen> i know! 
11:12 <Spaceshot> nope, the guy from sydney
11:15 <tristen> i'll never call a bard a gayboy ever again!
11:16 <Spaceshot> 29str XD
11:17 <Mort-> I know you're cleric, avatar's witch
11:19 <Mort-> wow
11:20 <Mort-> sick
11:23 <Mort-> what did he do polymorph?
11:27 <Mort-> or he's RDD
11:29 <Mort-> possible too..
11:31 <tristen> his crit range is 15-20
11:32 <Spaceshot> I'm an oracle7/holy vindicator 4
11:34 <tristen> man
11:36 <Mort-> easy
11:39 <Mort-> khaz can do it too
11:39 <Mort-> :)
11:40 <Spaceshot> who doesn't have remove blindness/deafness :P
11:43 <Mort-> if you wanted to see..
11:45 <tristen> :)
11:50 <Mort-> but he wont do that much damage..
11:51 <Mort-> 21 str
11:54 <Mort-> I notice hitting is a problem
12:00 <Spaceshot> he's a dragon disciple :P
12:01 <tristen> gtg for dinnah
12:03 <Mort-> yeah RDD
12:04 <Mort-> expected
12:08 <Mort-> I wanted to do bard RDD sometime
12:09 <Mort-> tank style
12:32 <Mort-> long time back then
12:41 <Mort-> I hope he was a red dragon
12:44 <Mort-> red dragons ftw :D
12:55 <Mort-> how was big Bru
16:16 <Ballig> hm can't seem to find where the chronicle sheets are for this novel
16:24 <Mort-> RDD..
16:27 <Mort-> awwwweesssoooommmme :P
16:28 <Mort-> nah
16:49 <Mort-> great. I spend a morning trying to get most satisfaction out of my toys(UMD)
17:07 <Mort-> anyway space - what kind of damage was he doing
17:12 <Mort-> falchion 2hs..?
18:43 <Mort-> probably a good guess unless he's stuck with simple weapon proficiency
21:15 <Spaceshot> he's using a nodatchi, practically the same as a falchion
22:02 <Spaceshot> he did 148 to a monster on the readied brace attack
22:08 <Spaceshot> on a crit :P
22:50 Avatar- has quit (Quit: go get analysed)
23:02 <Mort-> ah cool :D
23:05 <Spaceshot> but yea, he had +19 to damage, and 4 attacks on a fullround (2 normal, +1 for haste and +1 for bite)
23:08 <Mort-> why was the monster so stupid..
23:15 <Mort-> he probably turned dragon
23:17 * Mort- shrugs
23:24 <Spaceshot> nope, he just sat back and braced it :P
23:26 <Mort-> if you were nice he could probably show you he can breath fire
23:31 <Mort-> the monster must be dumb..
23:35 <Mort-> change a braced lance..
23:36 <Mort-> lol
23:40 <Mort-> charge..
23:42 <Mort-> I think Id fly..
23:44 <Mort-> seriously
23:50 <Avatar> I know right
24:09 <Mort-> 148 is total damage?
24:12 <Mort-> my
24:13 <Avatar> I don't think I've had a chance to fly yet
24:19 <Mort-> just keep it aorund
24:24 <Mort-> tomroorw the same or its all over today?
24:28 <Mort-> god
24:35 <Mort-> I think my damage output kinda sux
24:46 <Avatar> second half tomorrow
24:50 <Mort-> ah k
24:59 <Mort-> have a good one :D
25:01 <Mort-> anything potentially fatal?
25:07 <Ballig> the game I played today was super casual
25:09 <Mort-> I take it that that bard runs right into the mess and starts swinging
25:17 <Mort-> whats Bru's damage like in game
25:19 <Mort-> using 2hs
25:20 <Mort-> per swing
25:22 <Mort-> curious
25:28 <Mort-> seeing how it scales up etc
26:15 <Avatar> I can't follow anyone else's damage output
26:17 <Avatar> not on average at least
26:20 <Mort-> ur a caster duhz
26:27 <Mort-> but how much does he hit on a swing arggghh
26:28 <Avatar> the 140something was a particular one
26:33 <Spaceshot> yea, but your debuffs are amazingly useful
26:36 <Avatar> it's got nothing to do with me being a caster
26:37 <Spaceshot> so was dimension door
26:39 <Mort-> MY DEBUFFS?
26:42 <Mort-> lolz
26:46 <Mort-> I cant debuff shit
26:50 <Avatar> my debuffs
26:52 <Spaceshot> no avatar's
26:52 <Mort-> I think he probably hexed the shit out of everyone
26:56 <Mort-> ah
27:00 <Avatar> hexes are indeed amazing
27:10 <Mort-> did you freeze anyone?
27:15 <Mort-> turn them into monkeys?
27:26 <Avatar> I feel like the more we talk about it the more we spoil
27:35 <Avatar> it will be a great one to run in here
28:03 <Mort-> ah k
28:06 <Mort-> I will not ask then
28:09 * Mort- zips her mouth
28:15 <Mort-> well we're underleveled
28:20 <Mort-> go get us leveled up
29:56 <Avatar> it's a bit shit that you guys will have to apply it to a 1st level char
30:46 <Ballig> it's the same as every module man
30:48 <Ballig> this module isn't special
30:57 <Avatar> we're using the old PFS rules
30:58 <Ballig> every single module you could do this with prior to the 4.0
31:03 <Spaceshot> mmm
31:07 <Ballig> I'm aware, but only because the chronicle sheet hasn't been updated yet
31:11 <Ballig> we're doing this exact thing with CoTE
31:13 <Ballig> so it's not special
31:27 <Ballig> and they don't have to apply it to a level 1 if they play it when their character is level 11
31:31 <Avatar> I thought CoTE was because we'd started it before the rules took effect
31:31 <Ballig> right
31:43 <Ballig> and this one you're doing in melbourne is because you started it before the new chronicle sheet has been released
31:51 <Ballig> effectively, before the rules took effect for that module
31:53 <Avatar> yeah, I mean when we run it in here
32:02 <Ballig> then run it for level 11 characters
32:08 <Ballig> no one will play it just to apply it to a level 1 character
32:15 <Avatar> yeah we could hold off until we get people to 11
32:16 <Ballig> it's a waste of a module
32:18 <Mort-> nah Id save it up
32:19 <Mort-> Im patient
32:26 <Avatar> it's a long time :P
32:30 <Ballig> you actually end up with LESS gold by doing that
32:36 <Ballig> than by playing regular scenarios
32:43 <Ballig> and, most likely, less prestige
33:07 <Avatar> at level 11, it'd be the last thing you play
33:31 <Ballig> you can continue to play past level 12 now
34:01 <Spaceshot> you can level past 12 now?
34:03 <Ballig> yeah
34:07 <Ballig> primarily modules
34:09 <Spaceshot> really? when did this happen?
34:11 <Ballig> 4.0
34:18 <Spaceshot> lies, must of been 4.1
34:26 <Ballig> there was like 2 weeks between 4.0 and 4.1
34:28 <Spaceshot> 4.0 has been around since april last year
34:32 <Ballig> are you sure
34:33 <Spaceshot> yes
34:34 <Ballig> how sure
34:37 <Ballig> on a scale of 1 to 100
34:38 <Spaceshot> extremely
34:52 <Ballig> if you're wrong, would you cut your left pinky finger off?
35:06 <Spaceshot> sorry, august
35:14 <Ballig> yeah, you owe me a pinky finger
35:17 <Spaceshot> I new it was a month with an A start
35:19 <Spaceshot> I never said that
35:21 <Spaceshot> XD
35:25 <Spaceshot> but it's not 2 weeks difference
35:27 <Avatar> only modules, I think?
35:27 <Ballig> it was implied
35:28 <Avatar> not with scenarios
35:42 <Spaceshot> ballig, your face was implied
35:48 <Ballig> there are tier 12 scenarios
35:50 <Spaceshot> anywho, 4.1 was like a month or less ago
36:38 <Spaceshot> so not 2 weeks between
36:40 <Ballig> Upon reaching 13th level, a character may no longer 
36:40 <Ballig> play Tier 12 adventures, but may play any number of Tier 
36:40 <Ballig> 13 and higher events, scenarios, or sanctioned Pathfinder 
36:40 <Ballig> Modules, advancing 1 level every 3 XP as normal.
36:49 <Ballig> I'm not sure whether any of those exist yet
36:52 <Ballig> but the rules allow for it now
37:03 <Spaceshot> hmm, must of been 4.1
37:04 <Mort-> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz3wyl&page=3?Best-oneliner-that-made-the-whole-table-laugh
37:06 <Ballig> it was 4.1
37:08 * Mort- giggles
37:21 <Spaceshot> maybe they want to try and expand on the PFS limit
37:26 <Ballig> they are
37:32 <Ballig> that was always the plan
37:35 <Spaceshot> so many people are going to be pissed
37:39 <Ballig> but they were not bothering to work on it until enough people had level 12 characters
37:52 <Ballig> why are people going to be pissed
38:01 <Spaceshot> because there are many people who based their character as being awesome for level 12
38:07 <Spaceshot> not necessarily looking at further levels
38:13 <Ballig> that's their shortsightedness
38:33 * Mort- ponders. I am a magus. A Strength one that goes for higher levels
38:38 * Mort- mmphs.
38:39 <Spaceshot> well, since the PFS limit has been 12 since it started (I believe anyway), that's been the cap for a while
38:43 <Mort-> oops, Thats Khaz.
38:45 <Mort-> I forget
38:50 <Ballig> it was always the plan to extend it at a future date
38:56 <Spaceshot> yes it probably was
39:04 <Spaceshot> but since it's been the cap for about 4-5years
39:12 <Mort-> wow its been out for so long?
39:16 <Ballig> no
39:21 <Spaceshot> it's been seen as the end point in terms of character creation
39:30 <Spaceshot> wasn't PFS around in 3.5 time?
39:34 <Spaceshot> since that's when it started
39:48 <Ballig> this is season 3
39:50 <Spaceshot> pathfinder has been around for 3 or so years
40:06 <Spaceshot> yea and season 0 was 3.5
40:11 <Spaceshot> so technically 4 years
40:18 <Ballig> 0-1 (one) 1-2 (two) 3-4 (three)
40:23 <Ballig> er, 2-3 (three)
40:26 <Ballig> rather
41:01 <Spaceshot> I thought it was 0 was year 1, 1 and part of 2 was year 2, rest of 2 and part of 3 was year 3 and rest of 3 and part of 4 was year 4
41:13 <Ballig> 4 isn't even out yet
41:19 <Spaceshot> anywho, gonna get food, and question why the hell does ava have spells?
41:32 <Spaceshot> haven't used more than 2 buffs that looked like they'd be useful, but weren't
42:27 <Ballig> yeah I didn't really get to do anything today
42:33 <Ballig> because we had two characters with double digit diplomacy
43:39 <Avatar> man I had 23 in bluff
43:44 <Avatar> and we had a bard with glibness
43:47 <Ballig> this was a subtier 3-4
43:54 <Mort-> I take it that...you guys probably lied your way silly
45:00 <Avatar> I wish I'd tried harder
45:09 <Avatar> I am actually not that great at coming up with lies
45:15 <Ballig> the guys I played with argued for like 45 minutes about what subtier to play
45:26 <Ballig> because for some reason two of the people wanted to play level 6 characters
45:35 <Ballig> and two of them had only level 3 characters
45:39 <Ballig> and the rest of us could go either way
49:15 <Mort-> damnit
49:19 <Mort-> you can make ANYONE believe you
49:23 <Mort-> and you didnt lie :(
49:32 <Avatar> I did, but not hard enough
57:54 <Mort-> :(
00:01 <Avatar> :(
02:28 <Ballig> :(
05:51 <Avatar> the only reason I even really have bluff is because of the character's backstory
06:01 <Avatar> which I'll likely never be able to properly act on anyway
06:30 * Mort- nibbles snickers
06:49 <Avatar> leave my character alone
06:58 <Avatar> she'll lie to you
07:04 <Mort-> yeah and you'll suceed
07:09 <Mort-> none of my characters with the exception of grull
07:10 <Avatar> YEP
07:15 <Mort-> have any decent kind of wis
07:21 <Mort-> even grull's wis Isnt that high
07:26 <Mort-> btw can you put a spot for me to update him?
07:32 <Mort-> before I forget..
07:34 <Avatar> what level
07:49 <Avatar> oh
07:57 <Mort-> 1
08:04 <Avatar> okay, added
08:14 <Avatar> sorry I had it in my head that it was another levelled up char
08:18 <Avatar> like these 11s
08:28 <Mort-> k thanks
08:34 <Mort-> before I get accused of playing wihtout a sheet
08:40 <Avatar> dam right !
08:40 <Mort-> by the time I was done it was 12 am the next morning
08:42 <Mort-> and lol
08:46 <Mort-> no one was online
08:48 <Mort-> then I went to work
08:51 <Mort-> update WHAT?
08:58 <Avatar> when did you start it
09:15 <Mort-> I started at 10 pm that night
09:26 <Mort-> I was getting gnawed on by mek's monsters earlier
09:28 <Mort-> was fun nayway
09:35 <Mort-> and extremely enlightening
10:49 <Mort-> CC..CC..
13:54 <Mort-> then in the morning I wanted to ask hydra some stuff before finalizing anyway
24:06 <tristen> so
24:10 <tristen> yeah
24:13 <tristen> that was awesome
24:45 * Mort- hugs tristen
24:54 * Mort- ponders over khaz. A problem.
25:00 <Mort-> how much were you doing on your arrow hits?
25:07 <Mort-> you did 30 to me on the first round, unarmored
25:19 <Mort-> ID say the monsters would have...slightly less ac then I would..
25:52 <Mort-> but not by much
26:21 <tristen> i'm doing ok
26:25 <tristen> not guaranteed hits
26:29 <Mort-> your first arrow
26:33 <Mort-> is a guranteed hit
26:36 <Mort-> I see no way to dodge that thingie
26:50 <tristen> yep
26:52 <tristen> true
27:03 <tristen> i've been disarming and tripping too today
27:11 <Brunius> ha
27:14 <tristen> which surprised me how effective it was
27:21 <tristen> i thought it was going to be...crap
27:51 <Mort-> diarming?
27:53 <Mort-> disarming?
27:56 <tristen> aye
27:59 <Mort-> are you telling me those stoopid monsters
28:02 <Mort-> didnt pack a spare wep? :P
28:04 <Brunius> They did
28:09 <Mort-> dont try it wiht me. I usually have..several morningstars around
28:10 <Mort-> lol
28:13 <Brunius> But we were in melee with them at that point
28:15 <Mort-> and seriuously
28:16 <Mort-> ah
28:20 <Mort-> so pull weapon out = AOO?
28:30 <Mort-> tell me that is so, because..Ill need to take into accoutn on the point I get disarmed
28:34 <Mort-> which will happen, sooner or later
28:37 <tristen> someone actually managed to disarm me at one point
28:47 <tristen> which was scary
28:48 <Mort-> lol
28:51 <Mort-> didnt you bring a spare?
28:55 <tristen> but bairaq wiped em out
28:57 <Mort-> nevermind you have your longsword
28:58 <Mort-> yeah
29:00 <tristen> yep
29:01 <Mort-> how was holy sword
29:14 <Mort-> doyou take AOO for drawing weapon in melee range?
29:20 * Mort- is a curious mur
29:30 <tristen> me?
29:36 <Brunius> Holy sword was great
29:47 <Brunius> I was getting +22/+17/+12
29:53 * Mort- winces
30:02 <Mort-> I get +13/+8 on a normal day
30:10 <Mort-> no i mean as in game rules
30:14 <Mort-> I thought you can pul lweapons
30:16 <Mort-> wheenever you want
30:20 <Mort-> including even when your in melee
30:50 <Avatar> I was getting +8 with hair
30:56 <Avatar> so brunius was doing O.K.
31:27 <tristen> i think drawing provokes?
31:38 <Avatar> drawing never provokes
31:41 <tristen> oh
31:42 <tristen> ok
31:44 <Mort-> Draw a weapon3
31:46 <Mort-> doesnt provoke
31:55 <Mort-> so basically all that monster had to do is pull out his spare wep
32:02 <Mort-> in the terms of a khaz monster itd be his spare morningstar
32:07 <Mort-> I carry like 2 of em around :(
32:13 <tristen> it's a move action
32:17 <Mort-> yeah
32:18 <Ballig> your character isn't a monster
32:21 <Mort-> well yeah :P
32:26 <Mort-> I might even carry a spear soon
32:35 <Ballig> you need to get out of that "I am going to fight everyone" mentality
32:37 <Mort-> or some 2 handed reach/brace thingie
32:37 <Mort-> k
32:51 * Mort- claws ballig again :D
32:59 <Mort-> you arent supposed to be able to disarm natural weapons!
33:07 <tristen> ballig i think today stephen was talking about running the ruby phoenix quick-smart
33:11 <Ballig> and you aren't a lemur, so we're even
33:28 <tristen> because the "upgrading characters" is soon-to-be-illegal
33:40 <Mekkis> Ballig, what book?
33:41 <Ballig> it's illegal for most modules already
33:47 <Ballig> Mekkis: Plague of Shadows
33:54 <Mekkis> tell me if it's any good
34:00 <Mort-> I shall summon the tashes bear..
34:01 <Ballig> I could choose from three different ones and that looked like it had the best cover
34:05 <Mort-> to go and get off your face!
34:16 <Mekkis> Prince of Wolves was good
34:23 <Ballig> that was another option, I think
34:29 <Mekkis> Master of Devils was alright - good in a Tian setting
34:41 <Ballig> do you know where I get the chronicle sheet for this book
34:44 <Mekkis> yep
35:01 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/PZO8503-PFSRules.zip
35:19 <Mekkis> you can apply it once to each of your characters
35:24 <Ballig> thanks
36:06 <Ballig> I'm considering adding my no-AOO boon to Bobbob for overrun
36:15 <Ballig> but it would be wasted if he took improved overrun at some point
36:42 <Mekkis> wow
36:45 <Mekkis> that ring is cool!
36:52 <Ballig> coolly expensive
38:15 <Mort-> rinnngg..?
38:17 <Mort-> SHINY
38:24 * Mort- jumps on ballig and steals the ring
38:28 <Mekkis> ook
38:30 <Mekkis> ooh
38:31 <Mekkis> Galt
38:39 <Mekkis> who's the author
38:46 <Ballig> Howard Andrew Jones
38:51 <Avatar> worth noting is Bobbob is also half way through his career
39:07 <Mort-> onot if they change
39:08 <Mort-> things
39:09 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should run it in here!
39:10 <Avatar> what ring are you talking about
39:19 <Mekkis> Ring of Shadow Walking
39:47 <Ballig> it's on the chronicle sheet for this novel I got for free at the game I played today
39:53 <Ballig> but it costs 26400 gold
39:54 <Ballig> so, you know
40:07 <Brunius> What should I run?
40:08 <Avatar> a bit more than a ring of invisibility
40:21 <Avatar> what does the ring do?
40:21 <Mekkis> Ruby Phoenix Tourny
40:27 <Brunius> I can't
40:31 <Mekkis> why not?
40:31 <Ballig> cast shadow walk at caster level 11th once per day
40:35 <Avatar> it's not on d20pfs
40:36 <Brunius> Not enough people have level 11 characters
40:43 <Brunius> (or 10)
40:53 <Mekkis> did John play?
40:58 <Brunius> Not today
41:01 <Brunius> Might be on Monday
41:03 <Brunius> I don't know
41:05 <Avatar> it was just us and Luke there today
41:06 <Mekkis> ah
41:08 <Brunius> Today we had the four of us and luke
41:09 <Avatar> and a bunch of noisy magic players
41:16 <Avatar> and noisy spaceshot
41:17 <Brunius> They were playing sealed, I think.
41:21 <Mekkis> yeah
41:21 <Brunius> Yeah, and noisy spaceshot
41:25 <Mekkis> GPT Melbourne
41:34 <Brunius> GPT?
41:40 <Mekkis> (the GP is the week before Conquest)
41:45 <Mekkis> Grand Prix Trials
42:04 <Brunius> Ah
42:12 <Mekkis> (I'm probably going to be under a lot of flak for going down for Conquest, and not for the GP)
42:14 <Mekkis> :)
42:30 <Brunius> Heh
42:52 * Mekkis waits for Brunius to blackmail him
42:56 <Avatar> forget the GP
42:59 <Brunius> Why would I
43:07 <Brunius> And HOW would I?
43:14 <Ballig> with those photos
43:15 <Ballig> you know the ones
43:16 <Avatar> yeah how do we blackmail you
43:22 <Brunius> Oh, THOSE photos
43:22 * Mort- is boggled
43:29 <Brunius> Yeah they're illegal man.
43:31 <Mekkis> threaten to send these IRC logs to the Regional Coordinator
43:51 <Brunius> What would be so bad about it?
44:00 <Avatar> I don't think he'd care in the slightest
44:09 <Avatar> that's terrible blackmail
44:14 <Avatar> let's think of something better
44:16 <Ballig> the pictures are much better blackmail
44:27 <Ballig> I mean, Brunius was underage
44:42 <Brunius> was?
44:44 <Brunius> I am
44:45 <Ballig> and/or still is underage
44:49 <Ballig> I always forget how old he is
44:50 <Ballig> 13, right?
44:53 <Brunius> 15 yo
44:56 <Ballig> okay
44:58 <Ballig> still is underage
45:00 <Ballig> how COULD you Mekkis
45:13 <Ballig> Brunius: my GM today was about your age
45:14 <Mekkis> actually, Ruby Phoenix Tournament is one way to jump the gap between level 12 and 13
45:22 <Mekkis> Ballig, what scenario?
45:22 <Ballig> do you want me to get her number for you
45:26 <Ballig> midnight mauler
45:28 <Brunius> Sure
45:31 <Mekkis> oh
45:32 <Mekkis> wow
45:41 <Mekkis> what tiers is midnight mauler?
45:50 <Brunius> 1-2 4-5
45:51 <Ballig> 3-7, subtiers 3-4 and 6-7
45:53 <Brunius> I told you man
46:00 <Mekkis> I thought so, Ballig 
46:09 <Ballig> it used to be a 1-7 and they removed tier 1-2
46:14 <Mekkis> yep
46:22 <Brunius> Why?
46:30 <Mekkis> requires less changes
46:31 <Ballig> because it was unbalanced
46:33 <Brunius> Wait
46:34 <Brunius> Ballig
46:36 <Mekkis> 1-7 is 1-2 3-4 6-7
46:43 <Brunius> Your GM was a female?
46:45 <Brunius> WHAT
46:45 <Ballig> yeah
46:50 <Mekkis> so if you don't want to modify the module, just remove 1-2
47:15 <Avatar> Brunius: we've played with female GMs before
47:16 <Mekkis> Ballig, was Bob overpowered?
47:24 <Brunius> I don't think I have
47:25 <Ballig> we played 3-4
47:29 <Brunius> Other than mort-
47:30 <Mekkis> so yes
47:31 <Mekkis> :)
47:34 <Ballig> I didn't play Bobbob
47:38 <Mekkis> ah
47:39 <Ballig> I'm not playing a level 6 in a 3-4 tier
47:53 * Mort- just mucks
48:00 <Mekkis> Brunius, what level is Bairaq?
48:06 <Brunius> 2 at current
48:09 <Brunius> 3 after RPT
48:10 <Ballig> Brunius: I was more surprised at her being ~15 than being female
48:14 <Mekkis> ah
48:19 <Avatar> Snickers is 3 after RPT too
48:33 <Brunius> I'm the only one my age I know of going to PFS regular-ish
48:42 <Brunius> There's Thomas.
48:48 <Ballig> this girl was the daughter of the organiser
48:49 <Brunius> But I think he's a year older than me
48:52 <Brunius> Ah
48:56 <Ballig> basically, this guy has raised at least three children that all play PFS
49:03 <Ballig> aging from 15 to early 20s
49:09 * Mort- really looks boggled
49:12 <Brunius> Huh.
49:14 <Avatar> top notch way to raise kids
49:18 <Brunius> Hmm
49:27 <Brunius> I wonder if I can convince my family we need to move to Canberra.
49:32 <Ballig> haha
49:36 <Avatar> dude you need to move to melbourne
49:42 <Ballig> zing
49:56 <Brunius> They will probably agree to move to Canberra as soon as Ballig moves to Melbourne
49:57 <Mekkis> assuming that I get 5% of the jobs I applied for this week, I'll be moving to Canberra :S
50:18 <Ballig> did you apply for the defence graduate program
50:24 <Mort-> good luck mek
50:33 <Avatar> did you apply for 20 jobs that had selection criteria
50:41 <Brunius> Ballig: Was she hot.
50:47 <Ballig> Brunius: she was 15
50:49 <Mekkis> I applied for a dozen or so graduate programs in canberra
50:50 <Brunius> So?
50:52 <Brunius> I'm 15
50:56 <Ballig> yeah but I'm 28
50:57 <Avatar> with selection criteria?
51:12 <Brunius> So you go blind when you're 28?
51:20 <Ballig> yes
51:22 <Ballig> you go blind when you're 28
51:24 <Avatar> Brunius: she was hot
51:57 <Brunius> How do you know man?
52:11 <Avatar> you have to read between the lines man
52:13 <Ballig> he's assuming because I didn't say she was ugly that really she is hot and I just don't want to say so because she's 15
52:19 <Avatar> ballig won't tell you because it's inappropriate of him to do so
52:29 <Avatar> correct
52:32 <Brunius> Is that so?
52:43 <Avatar> so really he answered your question
52:45 <Ballig> of course, he's also making the assumption that I'm into 15 year old girls
52:55 <Avatar> I'm not assuming that
52:58 <Avatar> you don't go blind
52:59 <Brunius> When you're only into 15 Y/O guys?
53:04 <Ballig> correct
53:06 <Ballig> I mean, fuck
53:20 <Avatar> blackmail ballig, send these IRC logs to the regional coordinator
53:41 <Avatar> I mean, the Regional Coordiantor
53:45 <Ballig> and then hope it doesn't turn out to be the guy who organised this weekend
53:51 <Ballig> seeing as you were asking if his 15 year old daughter is hot
54:01 <Avatar> ye
54:07 <Brunius> I will delete those biys
54:10 <Brunius> bits even
54:18 <Brunius> Isn't the regional coordinator Darkwhite
54:27 <Ballig> I think he meant my regional coordinator
54:33 <Avatar> this conversation is just falling into an abyss of something i don't know what
54:42 <Brunius> Your region co-ordinator is in sydney
54:45 <Ballig> I mean, my Regional Coordinator
54:51 <Brunius> Yeah
54:58 <Ballig> I'm assuming the regional coordinator and venture-captain are two different people
55:00 <Ballig> but I'm not certain
55:00 <Mekkis> Brunius, no: wrong Regional coordinator
55:01 <Brunius> Can't forget the capitals on Regional and Coordinator
55:03 <Ballig> I know that my venture captain is in sydney
55:05 <Mekkis> I'm talking about the MTG one
55:10 <Brunius> I know that
55:21 <Brunius> I'm not sure what Ballig is talking about
55:21 <Mekkis> Alan, right?
55:35 <Avatar> I had a manager who would always refer to himself to customers as hello, I'm John Smith... the CLIENT SERVICES MANAGER, how can I help you
55:44 <Ballig> don't know his name, just heard the guy mention today that he sent through boons for this weekend
55:45 <Ballig> etc etc
55:50 <Ballig> he probably also sent the books
56:11 <Avatar> he used to be a supervisor and never referred to himself with such importance until he got promoted to that role
56:25 <Ballig> Avatar: some people love having "manager" in their title
56:28 <Avatar> he was out the door not too long after that
56:33 <Ballig> and assume it will impress other people
56:35 <Avatar> even at my company
57:18 <Avatar> not just because of that, but because his whole mental wellbeing went out the door
57:19 <Ballig> I ended up getting that keyboard dock on the way to the session today
57:36 <Avatar> pretty normal boss before his head got the better of him
57:45 <Ballig> and I can tell you, sitting there with my tablet on a small keyboard dock, snickering as this other guy spent like 15 minutes setting up extension cords for his big-ass laptop
58:11 <Avatar> how do you spend 15 minutes setting up a laptop
58:17 <Brunius> Who knows
58:25 <Ballig> he had to thread extension cords and power boards through half the room
58:26 <Brunius> I should get a tablet
58:27 <Mekkis> I like watching Geoff Huston (in his speeches) throw daggers at ARIN
58:34 <Brunius> ARIN?
58:43 <Avatar> Geoff Huston?
58:47 <Ballig> (I think he was using the power boards as more extension cords)
58:51 <Brunius> Ha
58:55 <Brunius> Hmm
59:02 <Brunius> This TV series was filmed at my school
59:04 <Brunius> That's pretty cool
59:09 <Ballig> and then there was talk about moving to another room on the other side of campus, and he almost cried
59:09 <Mekkis> American Registry of Internet Numbers
59:16 <Avatar> hahaha
59:23 <Avatar> seriously cry or jokingly cry?
59:34 <Mekkis> Huston is from the Asia Pacific Network Information Centre
59:34 <Ballig> well, he was the same almost-spaz-and-walk-away-from-table guy
59:40 <Ballig> so when i say 'cry' I don't mean physical tears
59:50 <Mekkis> Ballig, no one said "take the laptop off the table"?
59:57 <Ballig> why would they?
00:04 <Mekkis> they're a distraction.
00:05 <Avatar> Mekkis: funny story, spaceshot had a laptop today
00:08 <Mort-> time to go
00:09 <Avatar> and it didn't bother us at all
00:11 <Ballig> it had his character sheet on it
00:13 <Mekkis> what happened
00:18 <Avatar> if anything it was helpful having a guy with a computer at the table
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00:32 <Ballig> are you saying it's a distraction for others? or for the person using it?
00:35 <Ballig> not sure I see your point
00:39 <Avatar> for others
00:40 <Mekkis> both
00:41 <Ballig> how so?
00:54 <Ballig> how are you distracted by someone else's laptop?
00:55 <Mekkis> it's a barrier between the user and the table
01:15 <Ballig> a barrier isn't a distraction
01:25 <Avatar> maybe if it was a huge laptop
01:31 <Mekkis> "How do we get the policy to do what you want?"
01:37 <Avatar> but I really felt it was no distraction at all
01:39 <Mekkis> "Stop making all this policy crap"
01:49 <Ballig> I don't get the distraction thing at all
01:55 <Ballig> I mean, I don't think even anyone but him could see his screen
01:58 <Ballig> and even if they could, who cares?
02:15 <Brunius> Maybe the minors would be scarred for life by the porn he was watching
02:15 <Ballig> I don't immediately stare at other people's monitors at work instead of doing my own thing, why would I do it in a game of PFS?
02:19 <Brunius> in between playing
02:28 <Avatar> if you're doing something else while playing, that's disrespectful
02:32 <Avatar> incredibly so
02:35 <Brunius> ^
02:37 <Ballig> yeah but you can do that without a laptop too
02:40 <Avatar> but that's not what we're talking about is it
02:52 <Avatar> just 'the wall'
02:56 <Ballig> and there's a difference between "Please stop watching porn and pay attention" and "Take that laptop off the table"
03:11 <Avatar> it's only as distracting as having someone look through books
03:22 <Avatar> which admittedly, I was doing for a large part of today, so maybe I'm biased
03:22 <Ballig> less distracting, I think
03:30 <Ballig> I could never even notice if he was looking through his books at all
03:43 <Avatar> he'd be looking at his laptop
03:46 <Avatar> you'd notice
03:46 <Ballig> yeah
03:51 <Ballig> I would have to be watching him do it
03:56 <Ballig> unlike someone flipping t hrough a book
03:58 <Ballig> where it's obvious
04:32 <Avatar> I was actually a bit worried about how much book flipping I was doing today
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04:46 <Ballig> there was at least one other guy with a tablet and that guy with a laptop
04:48 <Ballig> no one cared
04:49 <Avatar> because I didn't know the exact specifics of my hexes and all the other shit I hadn't seen before
04:57 <Mort-> Afk dinner
05:20 <Ballig> when the GM needed to use two pages of the bestiary I let her borrow my tablet
05:26 <Avatar> tablets aren't the same apparently
05:30 <Brunius> Aww, isn't that nice.
05:30 <Ballig> she thought it was cool
05:33 <Avatar> it's only laptops which have the 'wall'
05:41 <Ballig> mine has a 'wall' because it's docked with a keyboard
05:43 <Ballig> it's like a tiny laptop
05:48 <Brunius> ha
05:48 <Avatar> yeah so that would count
05:49 <Brunius> ha
05:59 <Brunius> bluetooth?
06:05 <Ballig> no, physical dock
06:10 <Ballig> props it up
06:23 <Mekkis> what tablet?
06:26 <Brunius> No, I mean, could you use bluetooth?
06:34 <Ballig> http://cdn.alltouchtablet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Samsung-Galaxy-Keyboard-Dock.jpg
06:38 <Ballig> there are bluetooth keyboards available for it
06:41 <Ballig> Mekkis: samsung galaxy tab 10.1
06:45 <Mekkis> ah
07:02 <Brunius> Get this one: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/e722/?srp=2
07:14 <Ballig> ha, I have seen that
08:10 <Brunius> What size screen does that tablet have?
08:33 <Ballig> 10.1"
08:39 <Brunius> Sweet.
08:41 <Brunius> I want one.
08:51 <Ballig> $650 if you want the one with 3G
08:56 <Mekkis> a 14" tablet is a little large
08:59 <Ballig> I think high $400s if you don't want 3G
09:00 <Brunius> Who needs mobile connection
09:09 <Mekkis> Brunius, I'll sell you mine for $150
09:10 <Brunius> 14" is A4
09:13 <Ballig> I got the 3G because I wanted it
09:20 <Brunius> I don't have $150 man
09:25 <Ballig> blackmail him
09:30 <Brunius> I gave $125 to spaceshot
09:35 <Brunius> That was probably a mistake
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09:38 <Ballig> ha
09:46 <Mekkis> yeah it was
10:48 <Mekkis> heh
10:56 <Mekkis> "ARIN is a dictatorship"
11:14 <Brunius> Probably
11:43 <Brunius> Avatar/Spaceshot/tristen: 10am tomorrow right?
12:20 <Avatar> yeah
12:35 <Avatar> just need to make sure I don't sleep in
12:41 <Avatar> I woke up before my alarm today
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18:20 <Avatar> the more I think about that ring, the more I think 26,400gp for it is a rip off
18:28 <Avatar> how much is a teleport scroll
18:59 <Avatar> I guess the difference is that it's once per day instead of single use
19:04 <Avatar> but how often do you need to teleport around
19:22 <Mekkis> Avatar, think not "how often do you NEED to teleport around"
19:38 <Mekkis> but rather "how often WOULD you teleport around, given the choice"
19:56 <Avatar> at 1d10x1000ft away? as much as you'd need to
20:06 <Ballig> and to answer your question, 1,1250gp
20:11 <Ballig> er, 1125
20:12 <Ballig> -0
20:38 <Avatar> 21 teleport scrolls worth
20:38 <Ballig> so it's 23 scrolls' worth
20:46 <Brunius> lol
20:51 <Avatar> 21 chief
21:01 <Ballig> still getting 23
21:09 <Ballig> 26400/1125 = 23.46666666666667
21:13 <Mekkis> yeah
21:17 <Brunius> 23
21:23 <Ballig> yeah, chief
21:25 <Avatar> oh, I was going off 1250
21:30 <Mekkis> but a teleport scroll can only take you and two others
21:50 <Avatar> oh, that's worth noting then
21:54 <Ballig> 3 others
22:07 <Avatar> 3 others may not be
22:32 <Ballig> it's one additional per 3 caster levels, a level 5 spell scroll is caster level 9
22:44 <Avatar> maybe it has more use in higher level scenarios
22:55 <Ballig> it's only higher level that you would consider purchasing it
23:00 <Avatar> yeah
23:00 <Ballig> also, it's usable by any class
23:08 <Ballig> obviously teleport scroll can't be used by a cavalier, for example
23:19 <Mekkis> so?
23:29 <Avatar> you're a cavalier, would you consider buying it
23:34 <Ballig> not at this level
23:39 <Avatar> later, obv
23:41 <Mekkis> how many times have we had a party with 4 or less members
23:51 <Mekkis> including mounts and companions
23:54 <Ballig> hard to determine if I'd buy it at a later level, because I don't have a taste of what the gold is like per scenario at a later level
23:58 <Brunius> A couple
24:19 <Avatar> mounts creates a problem
24:25 <Avatar> didn't think of that
24:30 <Avatar> can't leave the pregen pathfinder behind
25:12 <Brunius> y not
25:24 <Avatar> actually I am having trouble thinking of any game I've played at a con where anyone is using mounts except for us
26:00 <Avatar> matt had one on his cavalier
26:22 <Avatar> I think that's the only time
27:18 <Brunius> Ashley has one
28:21 <Brunius> I've seen them a couple of time
28:28 <Brunius> s
29:19 <Mekkis> it's good setting up new computers at stores
29:39 <Mekkis> you can change the desktop settings and noone will complain that it's changed
30:35 <Avatar> why would they complain
30:47 <Mekkis> if anything changes, the users complain
30:50 <Mekkis> they're /users/
30:57 <Avatar> oh, like in workspaces
31:18 <Avatar> I got a lot of people to like me by messing with their desktops
31:31 <Avatar> they kept asking me why IT didn't set it up that way
31:37 <Avatar> instead of giving them a barebones machine to deal with
32:22 <Mekkis> stuff like setting the theme to windows classic
32:50 <Mekkis> or changing the background colour to maroon on their server, so when I log in later, I know I've logged into the right place
33:13 <Mekkis> or turning off "n00b mode"
46:42 * Mort- nubs around
46:55 <Mekkis> Mort-, do you use "n00b mode"?
47:10 <Brunius> Care to explain what "n00b mode" is, Mekkis?
47:14 <Mort-> I don't know what it even is :)
48:57 <Mekkis> Brunius, "Hide Extensions for known file types, Don't show hidden and system files, not using windows classic mode, and hide labels on taskbar)
49:23 <Mort-> We are on libt
49:25 <Mort-> That
49:27 <Mort-> For office
49:38 <Avatar> you've got to wonder how hide extensions for known file types is still enabled by default
49:43 <Mort-> I usually leave my pc alone
49:57 <Avatar> of every single option in windows, you'd think they'd know to ditch that one by now
50:02 <Avatar> since windows 95, seriously
50:06 <Mekkis> it's called "n00b mode", because if you leave those options on, you're a n00b...
51:16 <Brunius> ah, that
51:57 <Mort-> Cool!
52:20 * Mort- puts on n00b hat and wears it proudly
52:33 <Brunius> You n00b
52:37 <Mort-> Looks nice on me don't you think?
52:52 * Mort- prances in the hat
53:30 <Brunius> You look like a noob with it on
55:21 * Mekkis sends Mort- an email with "charsheet.doc.exe" attached
55:28 <Mekkis> "Hey, it's my character sheet"
55:31 <Brunius> heh
55:32 <Mort-> What?
55:36 <Mort-> For?
55:58 <Mort-> I don't see it?
56:05 <Mort-> I'm on cell irc
56:12 <Mekkis> Mort-, it was a joke
56:17 <Mort-> Oh.
56:25 <Mort-> i have no sense of humor :)
56:51 <Mekkis> what I mean is that if I send you charsheet.doc.exe, and you have "hide extensions for known file types" checked on, it will appear to be a word document called "charsheet.doc"
57:38 <Mort-> And i can't open it :(
57:46 <Mekkis> oh
57:49 <Mekkis> you can open it
58:06 <Mekkis> and since it's an exe, it could do ANYTHING - like delete every file on your PC
58:19 <Mort-> Oh
58:30 <Brunius> gogo virus scan !
58:32 <Mort-> So basically you don't see those are threats
58:36 <Mekkis> yep
58:43 <Mort-> because of noob mode
58:46 <Mekkis> yep
58:46 <Mort-> but it might be a group specific thing that my magus is always the one expected to close with and kill the enemy casters before they ruin our day.
58:51 <Mort-> Do i?
58:57 <Mekkis> what?
59:00 * Mort- makes a horrible wail
59:02 <Mort-> Nothing
59:11 <Mort-> Trolling forums again
59:22 <Mort-> Looking at the dark side
59:34 <Mekkis> please tell me you're not posting that to the paizo forums
59:41 <Mort-> If you want to disable a caster please
59:55 <Mort-> I never post
00:07 <Mort-> I have effectively no voice
00:19 <Mort-> Throw hoku at him
00:22 <Mort-> Not me :(
00:41 <Mort-> I don't fancy myself good at taking out enemy casters :(
00:49 * Mort- makes a wail
01:23 <Brunius> Spaceshot was gonna cast silence on himself then charge enemy casters today
01:28 <Mort-> Lol
01:34 <Mort-> I'm better then he is
01:35 <Spaceshot> was tempting it
01:43 <Mort-> At that kind of thing
01:45 <Spaceshot> but there was only 1 caster against us
01:50 <Mort-> Lol
01:59 <Brunius> Didn't we kill her turn 1?
02:00 <Mort-> And how many melee?
02:00 <Spaceshot> and she died in 1 round after blinding oskar
02:08 <Mort-> Haha!
02:10 <Mekkis> so Ruby Phoenix Tournament is a full sanctioned module, right?
02:16 <Brunius> I think so
02:19 <Mort-> Blinded oskar!
02:19 <Spaceshot> to my understanding yes
02:36 * Mort- laughs at tristen
02:46 <Mort-> And next time i get fked
02:50 <Spaceshot> well he was the threat XD
02:53 <Mort-> He will laugh at me :(
02:58 <Mekkis> so you haven't finished it yet
02:59 <Mort-> He is harmless!
03:04 <Mort-> Promise :p
03:13 <Spaceshot> no we haven't
03:22 <Mort-> You just need to handle him right!
03:29 <Spaceshot> it should take 3 days worth of playing to finish it, we're to finish it in 2 XD
03:33 * Mort- fingers her feather
04:05 * Mort- tickles tristen to make him laugh
06:21 <Mort-> Stranglely i don't mind spraying wizards
06:38 <Mort-> But not clerics or monks obviously
07:54 <Mort-> Oooh
08:06 <Mort-> Touch of idiocy
08:34 <Mort-> 1d6
08:45 <Mort-> Knowing me i would roll a 1
12:13 <Mort-> Oooh
12:21 <Mort-> Call the void
12:41 <Mort-> Drop it on yourself and they can't cast!
14:18 <Mort-> Shiny!
14:48 <Mekkis> hmmm
14:52 <Mekkis> potion of silence
17:21 <Spaceshot> haha potion of silence :P
17:45 <Spaceshot> give it to a mage and bluff them it's a potion of mage armour or something XD
17:53 <Mort-> Nuts
17:58 <Mort-> Ill just umd silence
18:00 <Avatar> that's an interesting witch feat that I didn't take because I didn't understand
18:04 <Avatar> it lets you turn a spell into a hex
18:10 <Mort-> Then hurl myself into combat
18:17 <Spaceshot> ????
18:19 <Spaceshot> why not?
18:27 <Avatar> how does that work
18:30 <Mort-> Ghoul touch
18:32 <Spaceshot> spell into hex would be awesome
18:32 <Brunius> http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/yahoo-answers-troll-why-cant-i-hold-all-this-bass.png
18:43 <Brunius> 'twould
18:54 <Mort-> Interesting since casters don't usually have good saves
19:07 <Mort-> And if i hit him normally...
19:14 <Mort-> Eventually its going to hit
20:07 <Avatar> maybe it's because it turns it into a DC and it becomes a spell like ability
20:13 <Avatar> er
20:16 <Avatar> turns it into hex DC
20:44 <Avatar> not sure if that's right
21:01 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/spell-hex
22:00 <Spaceshot> it'd be good for blindness/deafness
22:06 <Spaceshot> bumps up the DC
22:14 <Spaceshot> and makes it spell-like
22:16 <Avatar> 1st level spell
22:47 <Spaceshot> boo
23:47 <Spaceshot> your first level spells are poo
23:58 <Spaceshot> if you had colour spray it'd be worth it
24:01 <Avatar> DC for first level spell is 10+1(spell level)+int
24:30 <Avatar> DC for spell hex is 10+half witch level+int
24:42 <Avatar> that's good, so it scales
25:21 <Spaceshot> yes, but what spell is worth it?
25:25 <Spaceshot> you have average level 1 spells
25:32 <Avatar> man forget what I took
25:52 <Avatar> I certainly didn't build towards spell hex, let alone take good spells
26:13 <Spaceshot> does witch have good spells?
26:24 <Avatar> beguiling gift might be good
26:41 <Avatar> that's will negates and can do some crafty things
26:45 <Avatar> and that's a spell I did take
28:15 <Spaceshot> I should of taken remove blindness/deafness over 1 skill point tbh
28:17 <Spaceshot> didn't think of it
28:22 <Spaceshot> thought I had all bases covered
29:33 <Avatar> you can take a spell as a favoured class option?
29:54 <Ballig> some race/classes have different favoured class options
30:01 <Avatar> yeah
30:05 <Avatar> that's a pretty sexy one though
30:10 <Ballig> yeah
30:12 <Ballig> the wizard equivalent is stupid
30:21 <Avatar> well most are stupid
30:27 <Ballig> you get like one extra spell known, which for a sorcerer/oracle is awesome, but for a wizard is like a few hundred gold at most
30:49 <Avatar> for higher levels that would still be good
31:01 <Ballig> you think that now
31:04 <Ballig> until you are making the gold at a higher level
31:08 <Ballig> it all scales
31:32 <Avatar> yeah but a 6th level scroll would still be expensive at 11th level
31:57 <Avatar> 1650gp for free is pretty damn decent
32:05 <Ballig> you say that now
32:06 <Avatar> I'll take a favoured class point in that
32:19 <Ballig> how much gold does a level 11 scenario give you?
32:21 <Mort-> Waow
32:29 <Avatar> that's the thing, it doesn't matter
32:41 <Ballig> yes it does
32:42 <Ballig> because it scales
32:43 <Avatar> let's say it's like, what, 10000gp
32:56 <Ballig> it's like the difference between the cost of food when you're unemployed compared to employed
33:05 <Ballig> when you have a lot of disposable income, spending $10 on a meal isn't that bad
33:23 <Avatar> it's the cost of food when you're unemployed compared to the cost of a home entertainment system when you're employed
33:32 <Ballig> a tier 10-11 gives 6k
33:48 <Spaceshot> yea, sorc and oracle love it
34:15 <Spaceshot> Avatar: you do realise that the spell has to be of a level lower than your highest spell level in that class
34:16 <Ballig> a 2nd level spell scroll is 150 gold
34:25 <Ballig> you get like 500-600 gold for a level 3 character
34:44 <Ballig> they're about on part
34:45 <Avatar> it's like a really good day job roll
34:46 <Ballig> 25%
34:54 <Ballig> on part/on par
35:12 <Mekkis> 10-11 gives between 7500 and 8200
35:13 <Mekkis> I think
35:21 <Ballig> the one I checked was just under 6000
35:22 <Ballig> but I only checked one
35:28 <Spaceshot> basically, 1 skill point isn't worth 1 spell for me (didn't think I needed any more though), but 1 hp is worth more than 1 spell for a wizard
35:34 <Ballig> checked a second and it's 7690
35:45 <Ballig> a third gives 8050
36:04 <Mekkis> I've played three: Sarkorian Prophecy gives 7667, Hall of Drunken Heroes is 7703, Wrath of the Accursed is 8066
36:29 <Mekkis> (Year of the Shadow Lodge is 7667, but I'm not sure if that's indicative)
36:36 <Ballig> so let's say an average 7850
36:55 <Ballig> 21% of a scenario gold for a level 6 spell scroll at level 11
37:06 <Spaceshot> anyway, you have to be human to get these favoured bonuses
37:08 <Mort-> Wow
37:28 <Ballig> or 25-30% of a scenario gold for a level 2 spell scroll at level 3
37:55 <Spaceshot> also ballig, you have to be a level 5 wizard to get a level 2 spell via favoured class human alternative
38:03 <Ballig> yeah
38:06 <Spaceshot> because it has to be a level lower than your max level
38:15 <Ballig> Avatar just has a problem properly visualising higher level costs
38:22 <Spaceshot> if you could get your max level, it'd be thinkable for a wizard
38:23 <Ballig> because he views it through the perspective of a lower level income
38:27 <Brunius> Trust Avatar
38:35 <Spaceshot> like a level 11wizard getting another level 6 spell would be worth it
38:41 <Spaceshot> a level 11wizard getting another level 5? no
38:54 <Ballig> dunno
39:03 <Ballig> you're still comparing 1hp/1 skill point versus /gold/
39:21 <Spaceshot> yea, but if you can get your highest level, it could be worth it
39:32 <Spaceshot> depending on the situation/cost
39:58 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, what about half-elf summoners?
40:01 <Ballig> I still don't think so
40:10 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: they get it too?
40:10 <Ballig> you can't buy skill points
40:15 <Ballig> and your ability to buy hitpoints is limited
40:32 <Mekkis> they get to put favoured class into the eidolon's evolution pool
41:34 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: I was saying you have to be human to get he bonus spells alternate favoured bonuses
41:40 <Spaceshot> not alternate bonuses in general
42:01 <Brunius> Avatar/Spaceshot: We need 15 victory points
42:13 <Mekkis> ah
42:14 <Ballig> I have 15 victory points
42:15 <Ballig> do you want to buy them
42:22 <Mekkis> adding a spell known
42:28 <Mekkis> screw that
42:33 <Spaceshot> brunius you metagamer
42:41 <Ballig> adding a spell known for a spontaneous caster is fine
42:41 <Brunius> Go me
42:42 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: sorc's and oracles love it
42:43 <Ballig> just not a prepared caster
42:51 <Mekkis> sure
42:59 <Mekkis> wow
43:02 <Mekkis> I like the cleric one
43:12 <Ballig> human cleric?
43:16 <Mekkis> yeah
43:17 <Spaceshot> I did use it when ava was straight oracle
43:19 <Ballig> what is it
43:22 <Mekkis> overcome SR
43:30 <Ballig> maybe artimus should get that !
43:51 <Mekkis> yeah
44:04 <Mekkis> take that twice, and that's the Spell Penetration feat
44:11 <Mekkis> four times, that's two feats
44:22 <Ballig> is six times three feats?
44:40 <Ballig> ah-ah-ahh!
44:44 <Mekkis> six times is three feats, if they ever print epic rules for Pathfinder
45:00 <Mekkis> given that SR is generally 11+CR
45:23 <Mekkis> so you'll generally fail on an 11 or 12
45:48 <Mekkis> pushing that down to a 7 is great
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51:51 * Mort- boggles and doesn't really understand
53:42 <Mekkis> I'll need to run Mort- through more encounters
53:47 <Mekkis> you got time now?
53:56 <Mort-> Sure I'm free!
54:01 <Mort-> But on cell :p
54:06 <Mekkis> anyone else?
54:41 <Mort-> No :(
54:49 <Mort-> Ill get pwned :d
54:54 <Avatar> I would if I wasn't playing tomorrow morning
55:53 <Mort-> I don't understand why sr is good for monsters but not me?
56:35 <Avatar> it is good for you
56:49 <Avatar> what are you sacrificing for it 
56:59 <Mekkis> Mort-, simple
57:04 <Avatar> it's no good if it's too low
57:06 <Mort-> All i need to do is be dorf!
57:17 <Avatar> what's dorf
57:19 <Mekkis> SR is good for you - if you get it from the Mantle of ESR
57:24 <Mort-> One of the dwarf traits lets you do sr!
57:26 <Mekkis> (Ballig can attest to that)
57:29 <Mort-> Spell resistance
57:36 <Mort-> It costs a bomb
57:38 <Mort-> Anyway
58:11 <Mekkis> it's simple
58:23 <Mekkis> here's an assumption you can't go too wrong with
58:31 <Mort-> Ok!
58:48 <Mort-> Say you are party buffer / healer
58:49 <Mekkis>  - Any enemy you go up against, that you'll have trouble against, is of higher level (or CR) than you.
58:58 <Mort-> The only person who will buff
58:59 <Mort-> Is you
59:10 <Mort-> So what's the problem with sr
59:19 <Mekkis>  - Any enemy spellcaster you face will have a higher caster level than you
59:40 <Mekkis>  - Any enemy with SR that you'll be worried about will have SR equal to 11 or 12 + CR
59:47 <Avatar> I think that is a pretty big assumption
00:02 <Mekkis> Avatar, really?
00:25 <Avatar> I mean I dunno, maybe you are right, but casters are grouped together with other guys usually
00:27 <Mekkis> the guy who charged and killed Snake was of higher level than him
00:38 <Mort-> If you are the only healer in party the only person who will be spamming stuff around is yourself?
00:41 <Mekkis> the shadow mastiff that ate Mellon was of higher CR than him
00:51 <Mort-> Sr never hurt?
00:54 <Avatar> the shadow mastiff was on his own
01:01 <Mekkis> the summoner who screwed up Cairo was higher level than him
01:10 <Mort-> Uh.
01:10 <Avatar> the cavalier was an exceptionally challenging encounter
01:22 <Avatar> the summoner was (effectively) on her own
01:24 <Mort-> We didn't have much problems with that summoner
01:25 <Mekkis> I see a trend here...
01:29 <Mort-> Really.
01:52 <Mort-> It involved her turning an exceptionally bright gold colour
01:57 <Mekkis> The monks in Year of the Ruby Phoenix were of higher level than us
02:01 <Mort-> Then getting stabbed
02:11 <Mekkis> The guardian that killed Kaleb was of higher CR than him
02:15 <Brunius> :(
02:22 <Avatar> the specials are always exceptionally challenging
02:27 <Mort-> There is no penalty
02:29 <Mekkis> The <thing> that killed Mytiazair was of higher CR than him
02:39 <Avatar> you can't point to every high-end encounter and ignore the low-end ones
02:41 <Mort->  For using lower level spells then?
02:48 <Mekkis> I bet that the yeti who killed Asmel was of higher CR than 2, too
02:49 <Spaceshot> you have an inate ability of dying avatar
02:58 <Spaceshot> good thing if snickers dies all you lose is 1xp and 1PA
02:59 <Spaceshot> XD
03:00 <Avatar> how many people were with the yeti
03:08 <Mekkis> it doesn't matter
03:13 <Avatar> it does matter
03:14 <Mort-> 4 of us damn it
03:18 <Avatar> that's the whole point
03:31 <Avatar> if they're on their own, yes they'll be higher level than you
03:36 <Avatar> if they're not, then thay may not be
03:38 <Mekkis> and the reason I'm pointing at the high-end encounters is that THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WILL KILL YOU!
03:41 <Avatar> and SR becomes useful
03:42 <Mort-> Well if i didn't burn my spells earlier 
03:54 <Spaceshot> so the encounter in FS1 is high end?
03:55 <Mort-> I might have been able to do something
03:57 <Mekkis> which means that they should matter more than the ones that are easy to deal with
04:11 <Mort-> Or maybe not.
04:22 <Mort-> Depending on how i felt about the situation
04:28 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, yes: the encounter at the end of FS1 is high end: they're an organised group, against a bunch of pathfinders with practically no equipment
04:39 <Mekkis> hell, I TPKed the first time I ran it
04:56 <Mekkis> so anyway
05:01 <Spaceshot> is the sorc higher CR/level than the party?
05:12 <Avatar> tier 4-5 shades of ice 1 killed someone
05:17 <Mekkis> with what?
05:17 <Avatar> same level or lower
05:19 <Mort-> Yesterday it involved me being bait and maggog cleaning up everything
05:32 <Avatar> I don't remember with what, I did it ages ago
05:38 <Avatar> I'm looking at levels
05:39 <Avatar> it can be done
05:40 <Mekkis> the enemy that's you'll have problems with will have a higher CR than you
05:45 <Mekkis> probably 1 or 2
05:50 <Mekkis> so if you're level 10
05:55 <Avatar> nope, theirs is lower
05:56 <Mekkis> they'll have SR 23
05:59 <Avatar> killed the strongest in our party
06:04 <Spaceshot> Avatar: I dunno, I bet that <thing> was higher CR than us and was piss easy XD
06:26 <Mekkis> since you're level 10, you'll be rolling 1d20+10 on your SR checks
06:46 <Avatar> anyway that's my 2c
06:50 <Mekkis> so you'll need to roll a 13 for your spells to have any effect
07:08 <Mort-> Don't they have problems landing on me as well?
07:13 <Avatar> like I said maybe you are right but I can't be certain
07:20 <Mekkis> (meaning that 60% of the time, your spells are ineffective)
07:36 <Mekkis> Mort-, if you're playing the dwarf with that trait, you'll have SR15
07:37 <Mort-> Ok switching to comp
07:40 <Spaceshot> or, or you just use hexes XD
07:55 <Avatar> fucking brilliant hexes
07:59 <Avatar> I can't wait to get to the good ones
08:00 <Mekkis> (while they're rolling 1d20+12 against it)
08:14 <Mekkis> so they need to roll a 3 to overcome it
08:16 <Avatar> I've been going easy on them
08:22 <Mort-> Oh.
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08:39 <Spaceshot> haha, I might even cast a spell that's not a pre battle buff or an after battle heal
08:39 <Spaceshot> XD
09:37 <Avatar> maybe we should have uptiered ?
09:45 <Mekkis> you can do that?
09:50 <Avatar> no 
09:54 <Mekkis> Avatar, was I right about performance combat?
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10:05 <Avatar> do you really want to know
10:06 <Mort-> right
10:08 <Mort-> Im out here now
10:08 <Avatar> spoiler alert
10:11 * Mort- wags tail
10:12 <Mort-> no
10:17 * Mort- covers her ears
10:23 <Mekkis> give me a one-word answer
10:29 <Mort-> I dont want to know
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10:38 <Mekkis> you want the truth?
10:40 <Avatar> better not man
10:45 <Mekkis> YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
10:50 <Avatar> I'll neither confirm nor deny
11:11 <Avatar> I will say there was a lot I wish I knew about the scenario beforehand that might've been helpful
11:22 <Avatar> but the spirit of it is that you're bringing in long-running characters
11:31 <Avatar> rather than characters solely designed for this module
11:35 <Brunius> yeah
11:52 <Mekkis> Avatar, exactly
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11:59 <Mort-> back
12:00 <Mort-> :D
12:04 <Mekkis> I think I'll wait until Grolschmir is 12th level before I play it
12:06 * Mort- becomes a fluffeh mort again
12:12 <Avatar> that's why we're destroying it
12:20 * Brunius casts dispel magic on mort
12:23 <Brunius> night guys
12:26 * Mort- becomes unfluffed
12:28 <Mort-> night brunius..
12:30 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
12:31 <Avatar> gg
12:33 * Mort- isnt very happy with brunius
12:40 <Avatar> don't lie
12:42 * Mort- fluffs herself up again
12:46 <Mekkis> (there are two ways of getting from 12th to 13th: Eyes of the Ten, and Ruby Phoenix Tournament)
12:47 * Brunius_AFK casts magic circle against lemurs on mort
12:56 <Mort-> stf.
12:58 <Mort-> wtf.
13:03 <Mort-> thats essentially trapping me IN the circle
13:08 <Mort-> I cant get out..?
13:08 <Brunius_AFK> eeyup
13:08 <Avatar> wow, I didn't know that
13:11 <Mort-> I dont have SR..
13:15 <Brunius_AFK> enjoy
13:19 <Mekkis> should I bring my magic wand to Conquest?
13:21 <Mort-> well. Im supposed to make a will save
13:26 <Mort-> I dont like it!
13:29 <Avatar> I might not have gone if I knew that
13:32 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+0 will
13:34 <diebot> Mort-, will: [1d20=4] 4
13:39 <Mort-> urm okay I guess Im stuck in it :(
13:41 <Avatar> on the other hand, Buck may die before 12
13:42 <Brunius_AFK> wand, Mekkis?
13:49 <Mekkis> yes, I have a magic wand
13:58 <Mort-> tanks I think have a short life expectancy
14:10 <Mort-> what magic wand
14:14 <Mort-> doesnt everyone have some
14:15 <Mort-> (CLW)
14:16 <Mekkis> Avatar, from what little I've heard of each, I believe Eyes of the Ten is better
14:19 <Mekkis> Mort-, no
14:23 <Mekkis> it's IRL
14:28 <Mekkis> not my character
14:31 <Mekkis> I have a magic wand
14:49 <Mort-> right
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14:54 <Mort-> Mek. youre not kidding me?
14:59 <Mekkis> nope
15:01 <Mort-> I have a magic broomstick that can fly. Its a firebolt.
15:04 <Avatar> well
15:04 <Mort-> are you serious?
15:07 <Mort-> what would it do?
15:08 <Mekkis> yeah
15:11 <Mort-> is it a minature?
15:13 <Avatar> that's saying something, because RPT is very good
15:14 <Mekkis> nope
15:32 <Mort-> I suggest you bring it
15:35 <Avatar> I thought quest for perfection was a great trilogy, but I'd say RPT is better than QFP
15:35 <Mort-> but dont show it until you need it
15:46 <Mort-> you never know you know
15:54 <Mort-> (packrat speaking)
16:04 <Mekkis> oh, I probably won't need it
16:06 <Avatar> hey, how come we aren't playing on monday
16:11 <Avatar> is it not a public holiday for some people
16:14 <Mort-> just bring it
16:15 <Mort-> anyway
16:18 <Mort-> you never know mek.
16:19 <Mekkis> not for me :(
16:26 <Avatar> ug
16:34 * Mort- believes that it is not good to be caught unprepared, ever
16:37 <Avatar> I'm trying to hold QFP for you and ballig
16:47 <Mekkis> and mort?
16:54 <Mekkis> she shouldn't missout
17:27 <Mort-> I cant
17:30 <Mort-> Im working
17:33 <Mort-> I really cant
17:34 <Mort-> Im sorry
17:38 <Mekkis> actually, Mort-... I have an 11th level character built now
17:41 <Mort-> my boss wasnt in on friday
17:42 <Mort-> lolz
17:43 <Mekkis> without much equipment
17:46 * Mort- wags tail eagerly at mekkis
17:47 <Mort-> lol
17:59 <Mort-> but you probably forgot more tricks then I ever knew
18:03 * Mort- tumbles Mekkis over
18:03 <Mekkis> heh
18:12 <Mekkis> want to see how Khaz fairs?
18:12 * Mort- nibbles his ears
18:17 <Mort-> lets bring it on
18:19 <Mekkis> sure
18:21 <Mort-> urm same setup as usual
18:23 <Mort-> what class are you
18:27 <Mort-> or am I not uspposed to know
18:36 <Mekkis> I suggest we allow hours per level spells to already be in effect
18:43 <Mort-> hours per level?
18:44 <Mort-> what do you mean?
18:46 <Mekkis> or longer
18:53 <Mort-> that means youre buffed up or urm
18:57 <Mekkis> stuff you'd cast at the start of the day
18:58 <Mort-> I dunno what spells Id buff up with!
19:03 <Mekkis> that last for 11 hours or more
19:04 <Mort-> okay the only one I can think off hand
19:08 <Mort-> is read magic
19:14 <Mekkis> Mage Armour
19:16 <Mort-> what class are you
19:20 <Mort-> I dont have it
19:22 <Mekkis> Bard
19:25 <Mort-> all my stuff is short duration
19:26 <Mort-> k
19:28 <Mort-> Get enchanted again..
19:32 <Mort-> probably facinate
19:37 <Mort-> I cant imagine a little level 1 gnome bard..
19:43 <Mort-> got out from me trying to molest him :(
19:45 <Mekkis> that's an idea...
19:48 <Mekkis> :)
20:02 <Mekkis> got CA available?
20:03 <Mort-> look
20:05 <Mort-> he did that ot me
20:06 <Mort-> yeah suuure
20:13 <Mekkis> diebot.ti4200.info
20:18 <Mort-> I eveh have a speical for gnomes
20:23 Mort- is now known as Khazaran
20:26 <Khazaran> @groping gnomes
20:27 <diebot> Khazaran, to molest a gnome!: [1d20=16] 21
20:29 <Khazaran> lol
20:35 Khazaran is now known as Khaz11
21:26 <Khaz11> lets say my magic vestments are on I guess
21:29 <Khaz11> at +2
21:30 <Khaz11> since its spells per hr
21:34 <Khaz11> say I umded it sometime ago
21:45 <Khaz11> though I think its the saves
21:46 <Khaz11> taht will kill me
22:01 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5 initiative
22:02 <diebot> Mekkis, initiative: [1d20=7] 12
22:12 <Mekkis> any map?
22:12 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+4 initiative
22:13 <diebot> Khaz11, initiative: [1d20=14] 18
22:16 <Khaz11> keep forgetting balaar
22:24 <Khaz11> all black for now
22:31 <Mekkis> you get to choose a map
23:09 <Mekkis> want to wreck havoc in an inn?
23:36 <Mekkis> or a warehouse?
23:41 <Khaz11> anything
23:42 <Khaz11> will do
23:48 <Khaz11> !rng inn warehouse
23:49 <diebot> Khaz11, warehouse
23:50 <Khaz11> k
23:52 <Khaz11> warehourse
23:54 <Khaz11> warehouse
23:55 <Khaz11> whateva
23:57 <Avatar> hm
23:59 <Mekkis> where do you want to start?
24:09 <Avatar> I just had a brilliant idea for an encounter setup
24:20 <Avatar> I will run it at some point
24:25 <Khaz11> I cant see shit
24:29 <Khaz11> its all black
24:52 <Khaz11> reconnect?
24:59 <Mekkis> yeah
25:04 <Mekkis> or resync
25:27 <Khaz11> I still dont see anything
26:11 <Mekkis> how about now?
26:31 <Mekkis> or now?
27:24 <Khaz11> cant see anythign still
27:43 <Mekkis> what version of CA are you using?
27:52 <Khaz11> 352 unstable?
27:59 <Mekkis> same here...
28:04 <Mekkis> let's try the stable version
28:06 <Khaz11> k
28:07 <Khaz11> nevermind
28:08 <Khaz11> I see it now
28:11 <Mekkis> ok
28:16 <Mekkis> where do you want to start
28:21 <Khaz11> chairs difficult terrain?
28:21 <Mekkis> you won initiative
28:28 <Mekkis> your choice
28:34 <Khaz11> id say no
28:37 <Mekkis> ok
28:38 <Khaz11> bevause my brain isnt good at it
28:48 <Khaz11> Q 15 will be fine
28:52 <Khaz11> put me as blue K
29:33 <Itzamna> You see a large mechanical spider entering the northern door
29:34 <Khaz11> where are you
29:43 <Itzamna> you won intiative
29:53 <Khaz11> are you invisible or something?
30:02 <Itzamna> make a perception check
30:15 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+0 perception
30:15 <diebot> Khaz11, perception: [1d20=5] 5
30:19 <Khaz11> I take it I see nothing
30:27 <Itzamna> you don't see anything else
30:29 <Khaz11> I cast shield on myself, balaar has constant detect magic
30:34 <Itzamna> ok
30:35 <Khaz11> does he detect any magic anywhere?
30:47 <Itzamna> he detects extensive presence of magic
30:52 <Khaz11> where
30:59 <Khaz11> besides the big spider
31:04 <Itzamna> you'll know that in two turns' time
31:12 <Khaz11> let me roll umd
31:20 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+16 umd
31:21 <diebot> Khaz11, umd: [1d20=9] 25
31:24 <Itzamna> what's that for?
31:25 <Khaz11> 27 is caster level
31:26 <Khaz11> I failed
31:28 <Itzamna> a scroll or a wand?
31:30 <Khaz11> trying ot cast freedom of movement
31:32 <Khaz11> scroll
31:37 <Khaz11> I dont hash money for wand nub
31:37 <Itzamna> you've pulled out a scroll
31:39 <Itzamna> hmmm
31:46 <Itzamna> are tables difficult terrain?
31:48 <Khaz11> at least balaar has
31:50 <Khaz11> I askedy ou earlier
31:52 <Khaz11> I said no
31:56 <Itzamna> ok
31:59 <Khaz11> becuase I dont want to deal with unecessary complications
32:00 <Khaz11> :D
32:19 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+19 ride
32:20 <diebot> Itzamna, ride: [1d20=14] 33
32:23 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+45 stealth
32:25 <diebot> Itzamna, stealth: [1d20=3] 48
32:42 <Itzamna> a spell is being cast
32:51 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+19 spellcraft
32:51 <diebot> Khaz11, spellcraft: [1d20=7] 26
32:55 <Khaz11> do I get to know?
32:59 <Itzamna> you fail to identify it
33:10 <Itzamna> the spider charges you
33:16 <Khaz11> k
33:42 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+19 bite; 4#1d20+19 claw
33:43 <diebot> Itzamna, bite: [1d20=9] 28; claw: [1d20=9] 28, [1d20=14] 33, [1d20=5] 24, [1d20=1] 20
33:45 <Khaz11> 34 ac..
33:52 <Khaz11> shield on and you said magic vestment was out
33:55 <Khaz11> but god that fk hits hard
34:02 <Itzamna> it's your turn
34:24 <Khaz11> I 5ft step towards the spider and start spell combat
34:32 <Itzamna> ok
34:36 <Khaz11> I wish to cast my spell first
34:41 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+20 concentration
34:42 <diebot> Khaz11, concentration: [1d20=4] 24
34:48 <Khaz11> id say it will go ofr that
34:52 <Khaz11> I cast a spell..
34:56 <Khaz11> identify?
35:04 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+15 spellcraft
35:05 <diebot> Itzamna, spellcraft: [1d20=18] 33
35:11 <Khaz11> intensified shocking grasp
35:13 <Itzamna> sure
35:23 <Khaz11> I do something to my weapon
35:27 <Itzamna> ok
35:28 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+13
35:29 <diebot> Khaz11, 1d20+13: [1d20=12] 25
35:32 <Khaz11> hit miss?
35:34 <Itzamna> miss
35:36 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+13
35:36 <diebot> Khaz11, 1d20+13: [1d20=17] 30
35:39 <Khaz11> hit miss?
35:42 <Itzamna> hit
35:46 <Itzamna> ummm
35:52 <Khaz11> ?
35:52 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+19 ride
35:53 <diebot> Itzamna, ride: [1d20=7] 26
35:55 <Itzamna> yep
35:56 <Itzamna> hit
36:00 <Khaz11> !throw 10d6
36:01 <diebot> Khaz11, 10d6: [10d6=6,5,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,2] 23
36:09 <Khaz11> !throw 1d6+5
36:10 <diebot> Khaz11, 1d6+5: [1d6=1] 6
36:17 <Itzamna> 6 damage, 23 lightning?
36:21 <Khaz11> yes
36:25 <Khaz11> I still have one more attack
36:33 <Itzamna> the spider's unaffected by the lightning
36:35 <Itzamna> ok
36:40 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+8
36:40 <diebot> Khaz11, 1d20+8: [1d20=5] 13
36:43 <Itzamna> miss
36:43 <Khaz11> miss
36:46 <Khaz11> I get balaar to cast on me
36:48 <Khaz11> ohter stuffs
36:52 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+16 umd
36:53 <diebot> Khaz11, umd: [1d20=20] 36
36:55 <Itzamna> ok
36:57 <Khaz11> Enlarge person
36:59 <Khaz11> end turn
37:09 <Itzamna> hmmm
37:14 <Khaz11> how is a mechanical spider unaffected by lightning..?
37:17 <Itzamna> a spell is being cast on you
37:20 <Khaz11> (I really wonder..)
37:21 <Khaz11> spellcraft
37:23 <Itzamna> roll it
37:26 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+19 spellcraft
37:26 <diebot> Khaz11, spellcraft: [1d20=7] 26
37:27 <Itzamna> Glitterdust
37:29 <Itzamna> will save
37:33 <Khaz11> Counter it
37:46 <Itzamna> how?
37:50 <Itzamna> you haven't readied an action
37:53 <Khaz11> can I swift action pull and counter?
37:54 <Khaz11> ah k
37:55 <Khaz11> eat it hten
37:58 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+8 will
37:59 <diebot> Khaz11, will: [1d20=6] 14
38:02 <Itzamna> you're blinded
38:06 <Itzamna> what about Balaar?
38:06 <Khaz11> k
38:12 <Khaz11> let me chdck
38:50 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+8 will
38:50 <diebot> Khaz11, will: [1d20=20] 28
38:53 <Khaz11> he takes the best saves
38:54 <Khaz11> of mine?
38:58 <Khaz11> depending on who has better?
38:59 <Itzamna> Balaar isn't blinded
39:06 <Itzamna> but he's still visible
39:08 <Itzamna> where is he?
39:16 <Khaz11> right on me?
39:18 <Itzamna> ok
39:19 <Khaz11> I guess
39:21 <Khaz11> I keep him close
39:23 <Itzamna> hmmm
39:27 <Itzamna> attacks on Balaar
39:32 <Khaz11> oh oh
39:33 <Khaz11> so screwd
39:36 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+19 bite; 4#1d20+19 claw
39:37 <diebot> Itzamna, bite: [1d20=3] 22; claw: [1d20=16] 35, [1d20=7] 26, [1d20=14] 33, [1d20=14] 33
39:45 <Itzamna> any of them hit?
39:48 <Khaz11> all
39:52 <Khaz11> I think hes gone to infernal planes
39:55 <Khaz11> lest see the damage
40:00 <Itzamna> (actually, it's -2 to hit on that)
40:04 <Khaz11> okay
40:18 <Khaz11> whats the spider made of
40:24 <Itzamna> !throw 1d6+12; 1d6 acid
40:25 <diebot> Itzamna, 1d6+12: [1d6=4] 16; acid: [1d6=3] 3
40:33 <Khaz11> which is the acid damage?
40:39 <Itzamna> the last three
40:49 <Khaz11> so you did 16 physical
40:51 <Khaz11> 3 acid?
40:53 <Khaz11> what is the spider made of?
41:11 <Itzamna> a metallic substance that isn't considered cold iron or good
41:25 <Itzamna> !throw 4#1d6+12 claws; 4#1d6 acid
41:26 <diebot> Itzamna, claws: [1d6=4] 16, [1d6=5] 17, [1d6=6] 18, [1d6=4] 16; acid: [1d6=3] 3, [1d6=6] 6, [1d6=1] 1, [1d6=5] 5
41:31 <Khaz11> ah claws
41:36 <Khaz11> okay balaar dissapears
41:38 <Khaz11> poof
41:38 <Itzamna> first one was bite
41:42 <Khaz11> k
41:45 <Itzamna> ummm
41:49 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+19 ride
41:50 <diebot> Itzamna, ride: [1d20=19] 38
41:53 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+45 stealth
41:54 <diebot> Itzamna, stealth: [1d20=5] 50
41:56 <Itzamna> end turn
42:17 <Khaz11> moving while blind I have to make accrobatics check?
42:22 <Khaz11> and I take it I cant invis while on glitterdust?
42:36 <Itzamna> if you move more than half your speed, it's DC10 acrobatics
42:46 <Itzamna> you can cast it, but you won't be invisible
43:34 <Itzamna> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/glitterdust
43:49 <Khaz11> move southwest 2 squares taking AOOs
44:05 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+17 bite
44:06 <diebot> Itzamna, bite: [1d20=4] 21
44:09 <Khaz11> miss
44:17 <Itzamna> even flat-footed?
44:17 <Khaz11> dimension door somewhere else and...
44:22 <Khaz11> yeah
44:25 <Khaz11> see you another day!
44:26 <Khaz11> bb :P
44:37 <Itzamna> not that simple.... :)
44:42 <Khaz11> cant I?
44:43 <Khaz11> lolz
45:00 <Itzamna> dimension door is only 800' or so
45:14 <Khaz11> okay lets assume I dont flee
45:24 <Khaz11> I try to kill the spider using phantasmal killer after I south west step
45:25 <Khaz11> 2 x
45:30 <Itzamna> (and Itzamna can Teleport)
45:40 <Khaz11> so I dont have to do defensive casting
45:48 <Itzamna> roll it
45:53 <Khaz11> roll what?
45:57 <Khaz11> its you who has to roll?
45:58 <Itzamna> hmmm
46:04 <Khaz11> the DC is urm..
46:04 <Itzamna> you can't see it
46:05 <Khaz11> let me check
46:07 <Itzamna> you're blind
46:13 <Khaz11> oh so I have to od rng hit miss?
46:17 <Khaz11> !throw hit miss
46:18 <Itzamna> yeah
46:21 <Khaz11> !rng hit miss
46:22 <diebot> Khaz11, miss
46:25 <Khaz11> k it bounces off
46:28 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+3 will
46:29 <diebot> Itzamna, will: [1d20=3] 6
46:31 <Itzamna> heh
46:31 <Itzamna> ok
46:37 <Itzamna> hmmm
46:48 <Khaz11> I cant see anything can I?
47:04 <Itzamna> nope
47:20 <Khaz11> and I cant do anything aobut it either
47:22 <Khaz11> sigh
47:27 * Itzamna casts Black Tentacles
47:39 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+15 grapple
47:40 <diebot> Itzamna, grapple: [1d20=6] 21
47:42 <Khaz11> can I counter it?
47:46 <Khaz11> ah wellz
47:48 <Khaz11> not prepared on it
47:50 <Khaz11> so I suppose no?
47:50 <Itzamna> nope, you need to ready to counter
47:55 <Khaz11> k
48:03 <Itzamna> does that grapple you?
48:05 <Khaz11> let me check my cmd
48:07 <Khaz11> I dont think so
48:11 <Khaz11> Im not the easiest person i the world ot grapple
48:16 <Itzamna> (oh, will save at end of turn to stop being blinded)
48:27 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+8 will
48:28 <diebot> Khaz11, will: [1d20=13] 21
48:35 <Itzamna> you're no longer blind
48:58 <Itzamna> 5' and full attack
49:01 <Khaz11> is the glitter dust still in place?
49:03 <Khaz11> k
49:09 <Itzamna> yes
49:24 <Itzamna> !throw 4#1d20+17; 1d20+17 bite
49:25 <diebot> Itzamna, 4#1d20+17: [1d20=12] 29, [1d20=3] 20, [1d20=2] 19, [1d20=8] 25; bite: [1d20=13] 30
49:29 <Itzamna> all miss?
49:32 <Itzamna> end turn
49:38 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+15 grapple
49:39 <Khaz11> all miss
49:39 <diebot> Itzamna, grapple: [1d20=8] 23
49:43 <Khaz11> you fail
49:44 <Itzamna> ok
49:48 <Itzamna> what are you doing?
49:57 <Khaz11> move to O8
50:03 <Khaz11> Il ltake whatever AOO I must
50:16 <Itzamna> through the wall?
50:26 <Khaz11> whihc wall
50:44 <Khaz11> O18
50:46 <Khaz11> I mean
50:46 <Itzamna> you can move to O8 as a double move
50:58 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+17 bite
50:59 <diebot> Itzamna, bite: [1d20=11] 28
51:00 <Khaz11> no wrong rea
51:01 <Itzamna> ok
51:02 <Khaz11> missed anwyay
51:11 <Khaz11> I use swift action pull out a phantasmal killer
51:13 <Khaz11> and point it at the spider
51:23 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+3 will
51:24 <diebot> Itzamna, will: [1d20=15] 18
51:29 <Itzamna> from scroll?
51:29 <Khaz11> my save dc let me check
51:35 <Khaz11> my magus pool
51:39 <Itzamna> ok
51:53 <Khaz11> he disbelives the spider
51:54 <Khaz11> end utrn
52:00 <Khaz11> as in he disbelives the phantasm
52:07 <Itzamna> hmmm
53:24 <Itzamna> another spell is cast
53:37 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+19 spellcraft
53:37 <diebot> Khaz11, spellcraft: [1d20=18] 37
53:38 <Khaz11> what is it
53:42 <Itzamna> Greater Magic Fang
53:46 <Khaz11> k
53:48 <Khaz11> cant do shit about it
53:51 <Itzamna> and a single claw attack is made against you
53:57 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+19
53:58 <diebot> Itzamna, 1d20+19: [1d20=6] 25
54:01 <Itzamna> missing
54:02 <Khaz11> missed
54:03 <Itzamna> it's now your turn
54:25 <Khaz11> move to T 18 taking whatever AOOs I must
54:43 <Itzamna> you're standing on the bar
54:46 <Khaz11> pull another phatasmal killer and aim it at the spider
54:46 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+19
54:47 <diebot> Itzamna, 1d20+19: [1d20=5] 24
54:54 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+3
54:55 <diebot> Itzamna, 1d20+3: [1d20=11] 14
54:56 <Khaz11> missed
55:08 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+11 fort
55:09 <diebot> Itzamna, fort: [1d20=19] 30
55:14 <Itzamna> I take 3d6?
55:19 <Khaz11> yes you do
55:20 <Khaz11> god
55:23 <Itzamna> roll it
55:32 <Khaz11> !throw 3d6
55:33 <diebot> Khaz11, 3d6: [3d6=6,6,6] 18
55:36 <Itzamna> BS!
55:40 <Khaz11> lolz
55:54 <Itzamna> charge Khaz
55:58 <Khaz11> roll it
56:10 <Itzamna> !throw 4#1d20+21 claw; 1d20+19 bite
56:12 <diebot> Itzamna, claw: [1d20=17] 38, [1d20=1] 22, [1d20=20] 41, [1d20=19] 40; bite: [1d20=3] 22
56:22 <Khaz11> posible crit
56:24 <Itzamna> !throw 2#1d20+21 confirm crits
56:25 <diebot> Itzamna, confirm crits: [1d20=16] 37, [1d20=14] 35
56:30 <Itzamna> two crits?
56:36 <Khaz11> 2 crits
56:42 <Khaz11> 1,3 and 4 hit
56:44 <Itzamna> (Someone took Improved Critical (claw))
56:48 <Khaz11> cool
56:50 <Khaz11> rol lit
57:00 <Itzamna> !throw 1d6+14+1d6
57:01 <diebot> Itzamna, 1d6+14+1d6: [1d6=4; 1d6=4] 22
57:08 <Itzamna> !throw 2d6+28+1d6
57:09 <diebot> Itzamna, 2d6+28+1d6: [2d6=1,1; 1d6=3] 33
57:10 <Itzamna> !throw 2d6+28+1d6
57:11 <diebot> Itzamna, 2d6+28+1d6: [2d6=6,5; 1d6=3] 42
57:21 <Khaz11> my GOD
57:22 <Khaz11> k
57:27 <Itzamna> !throw 3#1d20+26 INTIMIDATE to demoralise!
57:28 <diebot> Itzamna, INTIMIDATE to demoralise!: [1d20=1] 27, [1d20=10] 36, [1d20=19] 45
57:33 <Khaz11> whats that?
57:36 <Khaz11> make me move towards you?
57:36 <Itzamna> I think you're demoralised
57:39 <Itzamna> nope
57:41 <Khaz11> so what does that mean
57:45 <Khaz11> I run off at top speed?
57:51 <Itzamna> I think you're shaken
58:04 <Itzamna> ah
58:09 <Itzamna> You can use this skill to cause an opponent to become shaken for a number of rounds. This shaken condition doesn’t stack with other shaken conditions to make an affected creature frightened. The DC of this check is equal to 10 + the target’s Hit Dice + the target’s Wisdom modifier.
58:15 <Itzamna> what's your HD + wis mod?
58:38 <Khaz11> hd 11
58:40 <Khaz11> wis -2
58:53 <Itzamna> so DC19
58:56 <Itzamna> I rolled 45
59:04 <Itzamna> so you're shaken for 5 rounds
59:07 <Itzamna> <?shaken
59:08 <diebot> A shaken character takes a 2 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, skill checks, and ability checks. Shaken is a less severe state of fear than frightened or panicked.
59:11 <Itzamna> your turn
59:32 <Khaz11> 5 ft back and aim hideous laughter at the spider
59:44 <Itzamna> !throw 1d20+7 will
59:45 <diebot> Itzamna, will: [1d20=13] 20
59:49 <Khaz11> you save
59:51 <Khaz11> I think Im going ot die
59:52 <Khaz11> your turn
59:52 <Itzamna> actually there's another +4 in there
59:58 <Khaz11> why so much more
59:58 <Itzamna> I can't charge you from here
00:00 <Itzamna> hmmm
00:02 <Khaz11> your previous will saves were +3
00:07 <Khaz11> I know 4 for non subtype
00:09 <Itzamna> +4 vs enchantment
00:11 <Khaz11> but how did it increase to +7
00:12 <Itzamna> :S
00:12 <Khaz11> k
00:15 <Khaz11> I see
00:21 <Khaz11> I thought you factored in the non subtype already
00:23 <Itzamna> another spell is being cast
00:32 <Khaz11> !spellcraft 1d20+19
00:38 <Khaz11> !throw spellcraft 1d20+19
00:54 <Itzamna> it's throw 1d20+19 spellcraft
00:54 <Khaz11> !throw 1d20+19 spellcraft
00:54 <diebot> Khaz11, spellcraft: [1d20=12] 31
00:56 <Itzamna> Haste
00:56 <Khaz11> k
00:58 <Khaz11> what is it
01:04 <Khaz11> k
01:15 <Itzamna> !throw 5#1d20+20 claws; 1d20+18 bite
01:16 <diebot> Itzamna, claws: [1d20=9] 29, [1d20=13] 33, [1d20=5] 25, [1d20=5] 25, [1d20=18] 38; bite: [1d20=11] 29
01:20 <Khaz11> m dead
01:23 <Itzamna> one claw hits?
01:24 <Khaz11> dont need to roll damage
01:27 <Khaz11> claw hits
01:29 <Khaz11> itll kill me
01:33 <Khaz11> Im already nearly dead
01:39 <Itzamna> !throw 1d6+12+1d6
01:41 <diebot> Itzamna, 1d6+12+1d6: [1d6=6; 1d6=4] 22
01:43 <Khaz11> yep splat
01:51 * Khaz11 collapses on the warehouse floor
02:05 <Itzamna> go to Surveys if you want me to explain what happened, and what I was doing
02:09 <Itzamna> #surveys
02:22 Khaz11 is now known as Mort-
04:35 Mort- is now known as Khaz11
30:06 Khaz11 is now known as Mort-
52:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you get to use Animate Objects?
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