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00:06 <mort-> But likely my next character would be human
00:25 <Mekkis> why?
00:57 <mort-> Just a gut feeling
01:13 <mort-> I feel my inner brute coming out though
01:14 <Mekkis> another idea: http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Organizations
01:25 <mort-> I feel like doing something that goes
01:25 <Mekkis> find an organisation you want to be a part of
01:32 <Mekkis> and take it from there
01:34 <mort-> Me smash. Me kill.
01:46 <mort-> I say its because my brains aren't working
01:47 <mort-> :d
03:31 <mort-> Yes. I feel like playing something dumb
05:10 <Avatar> play a dumb sorcerer
05:22 <mort-> I already have one
05:29 <Avatar> who
05:33 <mort-> Can't bring her for fs1 though
05:37 <mort-> Kendra
05:47 <mort-> If i could have played fs3
05:50 <mort-> Would have
06:30 <mort-> Might rdd her in the future for fun
06:36 <Avatar> how did I forget you had a sorcerer
06:40 <mort-> I don't think this channel
06:45 <mort-> Has a rdd yet
07:10 <mort-> But rdd and bard go better then rdd and sorc
07:10 <Avatar> I don't think we have any prestige classes
07:15 <mort-> Yeah
07:22 <mort-> Just for the fk of it
07:59 <mort-> Just do things that none have done before
08:23 <mort-> That's a gnome trait :(
08:30 <mort-> I blame mek!
08:33 <Avatar> adopted
08:41 <mort-> He has been corrupting me!
08:54 <mort-> Nah. Not
08:57 <mort-> Its my own self
09:10 <mort-> I enjoy trying new things
09:24 <mort-> Maybe that's why  i have difficulties leveling mort
09:27 <mort-> Heh
10:04 <mort-> I should look into morts long term damage output though
10:17 <mort-> I can't be using acid touch every fight :(
10:47 * mort- ponders a bit. Then gives up
11:07 <mort-> Just hope my party members will pick up the slack on normal encounters
11:10 <Mekkis> Mytiazair has two prestige classes!
11:34 <mort-> And you said you x classed him too much
11:58 <mort-> Point is x classing esp if you are a pure fighter 
12:04 <mort-> Improves your flexibility
12:25 <mort-> I don't think i can play a pure fighter class
13:03 <Mekkis> fighter/barbarian/ranger/horizon walker
13:38 <mort-> I would mix fighter with ranger i think
13:52 <Mekkis> what's your CONCEPT?
14:08 <mort-> Not really thinking atm
14:14 <mort-> Ill read the wiki
14:36 <mort-> I told you my brains aren't working
14:58 * mort- tumbles mekkis over for chocolate chip cookies
15:06 <mort-> Are you going to...
15:19 <mort-> Grapple or disarm me?
15:27 <Avatar> all of mort's concepts are (class) that likes eating chocolate chip cookies
15:41 <Mekkis> no
15:48 <Mekkis> I'm having a shower!
15:49 <mort-> Wait you can't disarm me. I'm using natural weapons claws
15:51 <mort-> :d
15:57 <mort-> Oooh
16:09 * mort- sneaks into the shower
17:09 <mort-> I think ill shower too
17:17 <mort-> (Seriously+
22:46 <Mekkis> remember, if all goes well, you'll spend 132 hours with your character, assuming 4 hour sessions
22:59 <Mekkis> you should put some thought into its concept
25:54 <Mekkis> http://magiclampoon.com/blog/2012/01/18/wizards-announces-fifth-edition-dungeons-and-dragons/
32:10 <Mekkis> Some zombies have resorted to trying to make people think they are still alive using various ruses, Gaffney said.
32:10 <Mekkis> “For example, a zombie may be carrying a sign saying, ‘I am not a zombie,’” Gaffney said. “However, surprise, when you get near that person and attempt to start a conversation, it will turn out that the person is a zombie after all,” she said.
32:10 <Mekkis> “Do not approach anyone carrying a sign saying ‘I am not a zombie,’ as, if you think about it, an ordinary, living person would not actually be very likely to carry such a sign,” she said.
41:59 * mort- hangs a sign "i am not a lemur"
12:40 mort- has quit (Quit: Bye)
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46:49 Sachiru has quit (Quit: Shutting Down )
58:30 Hydrazine has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
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16:16 <Mort-> Mph
20:54 <Hydrazine> mph.
21:03 <Hydrazine> miles per hour?
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36:11 <Mort-> Lol
36:24 <Mort-> My doppelanger and me
37:26 Mortie has quit (Quit: )
44:27 <Mort-> Can hoku grapple a dragon?
50:22 <MekkisScreen> yes
50:28 <MekkisScreen> depending on size of course
50:30 <MekkisScreen> :)
51:09 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: Brisbane -> Sydney: 1 megametre. Brisbane -> Melbourne: 1 megamile
52:30 <Hydrazine> you can't mix metric and imperial!
52:38 <Hydrazine> thats as wrong as bestiality.
53:21 <Mort-> Ok so if mek got in a bad mood
53:30 <Mort-> And dropped a dragon on us
53:39 <Mort-> You couldn't grapple him? :p
00:32 * Mort- reads the how to get out of ropes manual
19:04 <tristen> woooo!
19:25 <tristen> last night i fitted out oskar with a belt of dexterity +6
19:59 <tristen> http://combatopia.com/oskar11.txt
20:33 <tristen> i had to downgrade his arrow to a plain old arrow of slaying
21:22 <Mort-> Lol
21:33 <tristen> hullo!
21:36 <Mort-> Your great. Till you see a dragon ^^
21:43 <Mort-> :p
21:47 <tristen> or a kobold
21:52 <Mort-> Seriously.
21:52 tristen is now known as Oskar
21:58 Oskar is now known as Oskar11
22:01 <Oskar11> @bow1
22:02 <diebot> Oskar11, attack: [1d20=3] 28; damage: [1d8=3] 7
22:08 <Mort-> I don't know but if i were you...
22:12 <Oskar11> not much i can miss...
22:17 <Mort-> Wow basically that can't miss
22:30 <Oskar11> aye it's through the roof!
22:56 <Oskar11> and i've more or less got the thumbs up from ryan on him
23:01 <Oskar11> so it all checks out
23:27 <Mort-> I realised that my standard damage on khaz isn't great
23:27 Mort- has quit (EOF from client)
23:32 Mort- ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
23:38 <Mort-> Oh well
23:42 <Oskar11> yes but you've got the magicks!
23:50 <Oskar11> that d6 lightening thing
23:53 <Oskar11> AWESOME
23:57 <Oskar11> GZZZZT
24:01 <Mort-> Looking at a cr 13 dragon I'm like wtf
24:27 <Mort-> That's when i nova
24:31 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: regarding your question re epic
24:32 <Mort-> Limited times per day
24:39 <MekkisScreen> I haven't dealt with much over CR25
24:41 <Mort-> Yeah
25:06 Oskar11 is now known as tristen
25:18 <Mort-> I think the problem of power leveling like what we are doing now
25:19 <Mort-> Like with inexperienced nubs like me
25:25 <Mort-> Is we have powers that we aren't sure how to Kremlin
25:27 <Mort-> Use
25:36 <Mort-> How do you calculate against sr
26:01 <Mort-> Don't you have issues if the monster you are fighting has sr?
26:16 <Mort-> It basically disables lower level spells
27:14 <tristen> what i want to know (haven't researched it) but is there a potion to boost wisdom temporarily?
27:44 <tristen> maybe a cleric spell or something?
28:08 <tristen> you know
28:09 <Mort-> Owls wisdom
28:10 <Mort-> Go get a swig of that stuff
28:16 <tristen> one with a label that says:
28:25 <tristen> "in case of hideous laughter, drink contents"
28:48 <Mort-> Potion of owls wisdom
28:48 <Mort-> Cleric spell is owls wisdom
28:48 <Mort-> The one for int is fox cunning
29:07 <tristen> ooooh! nice!
29:16 <tristen> yeah not fussed about int
29:20 <tristen> but cheers!
29:31 <tristen> i'll add that to my belt!
29:34 <Mort-> The one for cha is eagles splendor
29:35 <Mort-> Any more weird pots your looking for?
30:00 <tristen> no just the wisdom one - cheers for that!
30:13 <tristen> actually...
30:17 <tristen> maybe dex?
30:31 <tristen> not that i need even more...but just out of interest...
31:18 <Mort-> Btw. Little khaz can do it too!
31:18 <Mort-> except not much opportunity
31:28 <Mort-> 3d6 at level 2:p
31:46 <Mort-> I say you get yourself cloak of  resistance
32:07 <tristen> yeah i'm a bit strapped for cash now...
32:12 <Mort-> The +3 one should be affordable
32:25 <Mort-> Don't upgrade your weapons and armor that much
32:39 <Mort-> My mithril full plate is not enchanted
32:54 <Mort-> My weapons lance and scimitar only +1
33:05 <tristen> oh i'm literally at 81656 of 82K!
33:09 <Mort-> You need a certain amount of flexibility
33:34 <tristen> yeah my breastplate isn't enchanted either
33:35 <Mort-> That is one of the reasons you wont see me play a class without spells
33:53 <tristen> i have an ac18 vs touch though!
33:56 <Mort-> I personally think you are limiting your options a lot
34:06 <Mort-> Like i care :d
34:14 <Mort-> I can hit any time i want to
34:23 <tristen> oh? with oskar you mean?
34:25 <Mort-> I just need one round to  prepare first
34:44 <Mort-> Khaz. With true strike cause
34:46 <Mort-> Abuse
35:08 <Mort-> I think ill lose to myz
35:13 <tristen> yeah and you had a good concentration too didn't you?
35:20 <tristen> what was the plus?
35:34 <Mort-> Because mek is a sneaky bastard
35:34 <Mort-> 19
35:44 <Mort-> Actually 20
35:50 <Mort-> Because of magical lineage
35:50 <tristen> yes one thing that came up in the game on the weekend 
36:11 <tristen> was the damage you take in a round gets subtracted from your concentration bonus or something
36:20 <tristen> so if you take 20points of damage
36:23 <Mort-> My magus is not the kind of caster he will be. Ever
36:27 <tristen> that plus gets reduced to 0
36:29 <Mort-> Yeah
36:35 <tristen> but hell
36:41 <tristen> +20 is awesome
36:47 <Mort-> I cast like a champ
36:56 <Mort-> The thing is.Once at 3
36:57 <tristen> +20 on anything is awesome!
37:08 Mort- is now known as Khazaran
37:12 <tristen> (unless maybe it's "swim"!)
37:15 <tristen> heheh
37:25 <Khazaran> @sc2
37:26 <diebot> Khazaran, slash: [1d20=9] 14; slash damage: [1d6=6] 11; concentration: [1d20=4] 18; slash: [1d20=6] 11; slash damage: [1d6=3] 8; ray of frost damage: [1d3=2] 2
37:48 <Khazaran> I have to be able to do that
37:54 <Khazaran> But yes i missed horribly
37:55 <Khazaran> Lol
38:14 Khazaran is now known as mort-
38:35 <mort-> Even little khaz casts like a champ
38:59 <tristen> yeah!
39:11 <tristen> actually i have to level little oskar up to level 2
39:39 <mort-> I built myself for it
39:40 <mort-> Yeah
39:41 <mort-> I wonder how 11 jerus would look like
39:55 <mort-> I think I'm going to get toughness at level 3
40:02 <mort-> I really have no intention of dying
40:14 <mort-> And tanks have rather short life expectancy
40:47 <tristen> jerus at level 11 will be fking scary!
41:27 <mort-> No. You hit his will save
41:27 <mort-> :d
41:28 * mort- uses sucker punch
41:36 <mort-> I'm more worried about hoku really
41:43 <mort-> I can't hit his will save
42:05 <mort-> At low levels i threaten him with colour spray if he gets close
42:17 <tristen> yep
42:21 <mort-> And yes
42:34 <mort-> I need to create something just in case i can play tomorrow
42:54 <mort-> I still haven't thought on how to get out of chains
42:56 <tristen> ah! yeah i need to accept that
43:19 <mort-> Meks saying i should get original
43:31 <tristen> oh no i can't do first steps again...
43:46 <mort-> I was thinking 18 str 14 dex and 14 cons 14 wis
44:05 <mort-> 9int 7 cha
44:21 <tristen> that salve of slipperiness will get you outta chains
44:35 <tristen> big dc though i suppose...
44:54 <tristen> why are you worried about chains though?
44:55 <mort-> Its against grapple
45:07 <mort-> Because if you fight someone close range
45:18 <mort-> Eventually something will go wrong
45:31 <tristen> but chains?
45:35 <mort-> Yes I'm probably not as easy to grapple as most
45:44 <mort-> But accidents will happen
45:55 <mort-> Say i get pinned
46:05 <tristen> you're not confusing pvp with normal gaming?
46:11 <mort-> He ties me up or something shitty
46:18 <mort-> Thinking pvp atm
46:29 <mort-> Ok swop normal
46:30 <mort-> So yes
46:38 <mort-> Can i ride a wolf?
46:53 <mort-> Or what mounts can i ride
47:04 <mort-> As a medium race
47:08 <tristen> anything that will let you i suppose!
47:21 <mort-> Horses are boring!
47:25 <mort-> I want a wolf!
47:35 <mort-> Or a wyvern
47:45 <tristen> can a medium race ride a wolf?
47:47 <mort-> Once when i was playing vanguard
47:48 <mort-> No
47:59 <mort-> I was a raki. Think kitsune
48:06 <mort-> I got a hell hound mount
48:20 <mort-> Made everyone in my guild laugh the crap out of
48:31 <mort-> Little white dog on big black dog
48:47 <mort-> Actually little white fox
48:52 <mort-> On big black dog
49:05 <tristen> lol fox humping the dog!
49:10 <mort-> Yeah
49:12 <mort-> So funny
49:16 <tristen> that's gold!
49:42 <mort-> So yes. Horses are boring
49:49 <tristen> hey sht i gtg for a bit...bbs
49:55 <mort-> Np
56:12 <Hydrazine> jerus wouldn't be so bad at 11. not at 500ft.
59:06 <mort-> Mmph !
59:16 <mort-> Btw did you check out the grapple rules
59:24 <mort-> On trying to grab a dragon,
59:26 <mort-> ?
59:31 <Hydrazine> no.
59:49 <mort-> Is there any size limitations on grapple?
59:56 <Hydrazine> There is one for pin.
59:59 <mort-> Doesn't make sense if a small human
00:07 <mort-> Can jump on a big dragon?
00:09 <Hydrazine> Can't pin something more than one size up.
00:15 <mort-> Ah i see
00:25 <mort-> So you grab dragon i enlarge you
00:32 <mort-> And you can tie him up?
00:34 <mort-> God
00:35 <mort-> I see
00:52 <mort-> And which of his attacks can he make
00:57 <mort-> He has bite and claws
01:03 <mort-> While grappled
01:48 <Hydrazine> Pick one.
03:21 <mort-> I would worry about the cone more
03:39 <mort-> Again you have improved evasion
03:44 <Hydrazine> No, just evasion.
03:51 <Hydrazine> but I got a wicked reflex save.
03:57 <mort-> You can dodge
03:58 <mort-> I act
04:00 <mort-> Can't
04:20 <Hydrazine> I don't think level 11 Jerus would be nearly as impressive.
04:29 <Hydrazine> Too.. simple. Too direct.
04:35 <mort-> Yeah
04:42 * MekkisScreen considers a level 11 Itzamna
04:45 <mort-> You can't 1 hit stuff
04:59 <Hydrazine> He would hit like a bus though.
05:07 * MekkisScreen considers a level 11 Deceased
05:11 <mort-> Even if you charged khaz..
05:16 <Hydrazine> But yeah. Not very effective in pvp I think.
05:25 <mort-> I think i can survive one charge
05:37 <mort-> Next one is hideous laughter
05:41 <Hydrazine> But not from Hoku, huh?
05:51 <mort-> That one doesn't hit my hp
06:01 <mort-> Different category all together
06:02 <Hydrazine> Think you could take a charge from him?
06:09 <Hydrazine> Thats the question.
06:21 <MekkisScreen> mort-: lets try this
06:26 <MekkisScreen> Khaz vs deceased
06:33 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20+6 initiative
06:33 <diebot> MekkisScreen, initiative: [1d20=12] 18
06:54 * Hydrazine gets the popcorn.
07:18 <MekkisScreen> shouldn't take long
07:20 <MekkisScreen> :)
07:27 * Hydrazine eats it fast then.
07:44 <MekkisScreen> (just don''t win initiative please0
08:05 <Hydrazine> Hey Mek, what do you think about forcing a melee to start a duel at 500 ft?
08:44 <MekkisScreen> I think that a duel should have a randomly generated arena
09:03 <MekkisScreen> Hmmm
09:09 <Avatar> agreed
09:14 <MekkisScreen> Hoku, will save?
09:25 <Hydrazine> Thought you were going against Khaz?
09:35 <MekkisScreen> I won that by forfeit :)
09:53 <Hydrazine> !throw 1d20+12
09:54 <diebot> Hydrazine, 1d20+12: [1d20=20] 32
10:01 <MekkisScreen> and again :)
10:03 <Hydrazine> !throw 1d20+12
10:04 <diebot> Hydrazine, 1d20+12: [1d20=8] 20
10:08 <MekkisScreen> nice
10:10 <MekkisScreen> fort save
10:36 <Hydrazine> Nah. You can take Khaz.
10:51 <MekkisScreen> as in, roll the fort save:)
10:59 <MekkisScreen> (you failed the will save)
11:19 <mort-> Lol
11:37 <mort-> What will save
11:41 <mort-> i didn't even do anything
11:53 * Hydrazine shoves Khaz forward
12:22 <mort-> Now what was the save you wanted
12:29 <mort-> Think I'm brewed
12:31 <mort-> Screwed
12:33 <mort-> Ok so
12:34 <MekkisScreen> will save
12:42 <MekkisScreen> Deceased cast a spell
12:52 <mort-> Spell craft
12:54 <MekkisScreen> during the surprise round!
12:59 <mort-> Ok
13:08 <mort-> Where was my will save
13:12 <mort-> I can't remember
13:19 <mort-> Give me the site again
13:29 <mort-> I think it was +8
13:31 <MekkisScreen> nl.ti4200.info/profiler
14:38 <MekkisScreen> +8
14:40 <MekkisScreen> yeah
15:11 <mort-> Found it
15:30 <mort-> !throw 2#1d20+8
15:31 <diebot> mort-, 2#1d20+8: [1d20=5] 13, [1d20=17] 25
15:37 <mort-> Failed one
15:38 <MekkisScreen> fort save!
15:54 <mort-> !throw 2#1d20+12
15:54 <diebot> mort-, 2#1d20+12: [1d20=20] 32, [1d20=16] 28
16:04 <mort-> Take 3d6?
16:08 <MekkisScreen> yeah
16:13 <MekkisScreen> !throw 3d6
16:13 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 3d6: [3d6=2,3,1] 6
16:14 <mort-> I learnt the wizarding law too
16:25 <MekkisScreen> now roll initiative
16:50 <mort-> !throw 1d20+2 initiative
16:50 <diebot> mort-, initiative: [1d20=3] 5
16:54 <MekkisScreen> cool
16:55 <mort-> Your roll
17:00 <MekkisScreen> Deceased casts another spell
17:06 <MekkisScreen> will save!
17:14 <mort-> Spell craft
17:20 <MekkisScreen> roll it
17:49 <mort-> !throw 1d20+19 spell craft
17:49 <diebot> mort-, spell craft: [1d20=19] 38
17:54 <mort-> Spill it
18:04 <mort-> Hideous laughter?
18:08 <mort-> Can i counter?
18:09 <MekkisScreen> heightened persistant phantasmal killer
18:13 <MekkisScreen> no
18:15 <mort-> Wt
18:17 <mort-> Lol
18:18 <MekkisScreen> you haven't acted yet
18:22 <mort-> That's a 
18:33 <MekkisScreen> Deceased has a rod
18:39 <MekkisScreen> will save!
18:41 <mort-> !throw 2#1d20+8
18:41 <diebot> mort-, 2#1d20+8: [1d20=19] 27, [1d20=10] 18
18:46 <MekkisScreen> fort save!
18:53 <mort-> What is heigthened
19:02 <MekkisScreen> increases save DC!
19:18 <mort-> !throw 2#1d20+12
19:18 <diebot> mort-, 2#1d20+12: [1d20=19] 31, [1d20=19] 31
19:28 <MekkisScreen> damn you and your high rolls
19:31 <MekkisScreen> !throw 3d6
19:31 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 3d6: [3d6=6,2,6] 14
19:34 <mort-> I know I'm going to die soon
19:46 * MekkisScreen flies 40' up
19:48 <MekkisScreen> end turn
20:00 <mort-> You can just fly like that?
20:06 <mort-> How far apart are we
20:20 <MekkisScreen> 60' up, 40 away
21:04 <mort-> Take out rod and zap deceased with it
21:10 <mort-> Your will save
21:13 <mort-> 2x
21:20 <mort-> 16 clears
21:37 <mort-> Can you counter if you have already moved?
22:55 <mort-> Hm
23:02 <mort-> Nah using another spell
23:15 <mort-> Or never mind leave it with that one
23:28 <mort-> Worth a shot. At most i end up dead
23:42 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20+13
23:42 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 1d20+13: [1d20=6] 19
23:46 <mort-> Get balaar to enlarge me using umd
23:48 <mort-> Again
23:53 <MekkisScreen> ok
24:04 <mort-> God i won't try that again but it was worth a shot
24:10 <mort-> Now i see your save
24:16 <MekkisScreen> cool
24:22 <MekkisScreen> Deceased casts another spell
24:28 <MekkisScreen> will save :)
24:36 <mort-> !throw 1d20+14 umd
24:37 <diebot> mort-, umd: [1d20=4] 18
24:41 <MekkisScreen> ooh
24:43 <MekkisScreen> UMD fails
24:44 <mort-> Fail to cast
24:46 <mort-> Earlier
24:50 <MekkisScreen> ok
24:54 <mort-> I need another will save from you
25:01 <mort-> Then we see if i make will
25:07 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20+13
25:08 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 1d20+13: [1d20=6] 19
25:15 <mort-> !throw 2#1d20+8
25:15 <diebot> mort-, 2#1d20+8: [1d20=7] 15, [1d20=6] 14
25:19 <MekkisScreen> and fort
25:40 <mort-> !throw 2#1d20+12
25:40 <diebot> mort-, 2#1d20+12: [1d20=1] 13, [1d20=14] 26
25:44 <MekkisScreen> yay
25:46 <MekkisScreen> you did
25:47 <mort-> Dead? :d
25:47 <MekkisScreen> die
25:48 <mort-> Yeah
25:50 <mort-> I know
25:56 <mort-> I can't counter phan
25:58 <MekkisScreen> PK is brutal
26:16 <mort-> I did try to think about it
26:18 <mort-> On hoku
26:27 <MekkisScreen> (FYI: the first two save DCs were 26, the second DC as 25
26:37 <mort-> But my caster is too weakl to Carry it out
26:47 <mort-> I know if i can't disable you ill die
26:52 <mort-> I could run i purpose
26:57 <mort-> Suppose
27:02 <mort-> That's always an option
27:14 <MekkisScreen> to counterspell, the spell has to be prepared 
27:24 <mort-> I don't have it
27:27 <MekkisScreen> (or available, I guess, if you're a sorcerer)
27:33 <mort-> Not that.
27:41 <mort-> Have to spell blend
27:57 <MekkisScreen> I thought it was on the magus spell list
28:07 <mort-> Don't think so
30:26 <mort-> Checking
30:43 <mort-> But that needs a rod of perrirt
30:47 <mort-> Not the lesser
31:32 <MekkisScreen> yep
31:37 <mort-> Yes it is
31:59 <mort-> I didn't take it because my spell dc isn't that good
32:01 <MekkisScreen> 33000gp
32:05 <MekkisScreen> and it's worth it :)
32:07 <mort-> Lol
32:08 <mort-> Yeah
32:19 <mort-> To deal with pesky magi? :d
32:36 <mort-> Best bet would be to counter it
32:46 <mort-> Maybe you have more spells then me
32:49 <mort-> Maybe not
32:56 <MekkisScreen> oh, I do :)
33:08 <MekkisScreen> and a better imp than you
33:14 <mort-> Lol
33:29 <mort-> How many do you have
33:36 <MekkisScreen> as far as my imp's concerned, my level's 18
33:54 <mort-> For casting?
34:04 <MekkisScreen> for abilities
34:16 <MekkisScreen> ummm
34:17 <mort-> How does it work
34:19 <MekkisScreen> 16
34:45 <MekkisScreen> the imp's owner's effective level is caster level + levels in the prestige class
36:20 <mort-> Again probably not something i can duplicate
36:28 <mort-> Nice way to die though ^^
38:48 <mort-> Does
39:07 <mort-> Putting feats on the spell
39:21 <mort-> Do anything to caster level to counteri
39:22 <mort-> ?
41:21 <MekkisScreen> nope
41:41 <MekkisScreen> you can counter an empowered maximised heightened intensified fireball
41:44 <MekkisScreen> with a fireball
44:31 <Hydrazine> Fairly sure the countered mage would be highly.. not amused.
44:53 <MekkisScreen> it's a good tactic, actually
45:02 <MekkisScreen> when you outnumber the opposition
45:19 <MekkisScreen> or think that you'll be able to out-resource them
12:40 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
26:11 <mort-> Should have counter you
26:12 <mort-> I think
26:29 <mort-> But how many level 4 spell do you have
26:35 <mort-> A shit ton?
26:51 <mort-> At least till your rod wears out
26:53 <tristen> wow
27:03 <mort-> Yeah i died :d
27:07 <tristen> oskars ac is 18
27:11 <tristen> oskars ac is 19
27:13 <mort-> I should have tried to counter spell
27:23 <tristen> oh you had a battle?
27:39 <mort-> But again im not too familiar with high level caster stuff
27:42 <mort-> Yeah was fun
27:55 <mort-> Dodged persistent twice
27:55 <tristen> heheh
28:00 <mort-> Third time got me :(
28:06 <mort-> Instant death
28:29 <tristen> if you'd dodged the third would there have been a fourth?
28:30 <mort-> Note to self. Do not try to make casters laugh.
28:36 <mort-> There would
28:43 <tristen> and a fifth?
28:47 <mort-> Probably
28:52 <tristen> lol broken!
28:55 <mort-> I have no clue how many times
29:03 <mort-> He can throw that shit
29:17 <mort-> He won't tell me
29:22 <mort-> But even at low levels
29:36 <mort-> He can outcast mort who is a pure wizard
29:57 <mort-> As magus i won't have enough spells to outlast him
30:28 <tristen> i think oskars going naked
30:35 <MekkisScreen> not really
30:43 <mort-> Actually yes
30:47 <mort-> I should have countered
30:57 <MekkisScreen> there wouldn't bave been a third
30:59 <mort-> But i didn't think that i had it lol
31:00 <MekkisScreen> a fourth I mean
31:09 <mort-> I should have countered
31:15 <mort-> Lets do it again :p
31:21 <MekkisScreen> there would have been a /teleport/
31:24 <mort-> Yeah
31:27 <mort-> I can jump
31:31 <mort-> With you
31:33 <MekkisScreen> and I'd try again the following day
31:34 <MekkisScreen> :)
31:38 <mort-> Lol?
31:45 <mort-> How far can you jump
31:52 <mort-> I can jump too?
31:52 <MekkisScreen> teleport?
31:57 <mort-> Yeah
32:05 <MekkisScreen> ummm... 1100 miles
32:11 <mort-> Dimension door
32:15 <MekkisScreen> 1800km
32:17 <mort-> 1000?
32:26 <mort-> Ill be there with you?
32:37 <tristen> you'd have to know where he went...
32:47 <mort-> Yeah lol 
32:55 <mort-> I can jump
32:57 <Hydrazine> to Tristen's house!
33:01 <mort-> I should have countered
33:06 <Hydrazine> To crash on his couch and play vidja games
33:08 <mort-> Then i say i want cookies
33:11 <tristen> heya hydra!
33:17 <mort-> Hi!
33:25 <mort-> I saw phatasms and died
33:34 <Avatar> Hydrazine: are you in tonight?
33:36 <mort-> I really should read counter spell rules
33:49 * mort- splats
33:52 <Hydrazine> Theres a game tonight?
33:56 <mort-> What a way to go
34:04 <tristen> heya avatar!
34:13 <tristen> oh and heya mekkis too!
34:15 <Hydrazine> No, I'm sleeping like an american for a change.
34:32 <tristen> we want to finitch first steps!
34:38 <mort-> Do you use counter spell
34:39 <tristen> that thing we started
34:45 <mort-> For pve mek?
35:33 <mort-> Would you believe my wizard hasn't countered a single spell?
35:40 <tristen> mort/mekkis: why not assume mort made the third save
35:43 <tristen> and continue from there?
35:44 <mort-> But anyway for me its all offensive first
35:48 <mort-> Lol I'm dead
35:55 <mort-> :d
36:46 <mort-> Basically i think pvp rules favor casters
36:47 <mort-> Actually
37:05 <mort-> Because they don't have to worry so much about limited ability usage
37:21 <mort-> After i novaed like that on you trist
37:30 <mort-> I wouldn't be good for much else that day
37:34 <MekkisScreen> mort-: dimension door is measured in feet
37:38 <mort-> Li
37:46 <MekkisScreen> teleport is measured in MILES
37:46 <mort-> Not sure if i can teleport
38:00 <mort-> But i had a feeling that fighting casters
38:04 <mort-> Requires anchor
38:06 <tristen> even if you had teleport it wouldn't matter
38:06 <MekkisScreen> actually, 100 miles/level
38:13 <mort-> Dimensional anchor
38:14 <Hydrazine> I think you're right, Mort.
38:20 <Hydrazine> Casters get strong.
38:36 <MekkisScreen> I think pvp rules don't work
38:37 <MekkisScreen> :S
38:50 <MekkisScreen> D&D wasn't designed for pvp
39:07 <mort-> You can grapple people all dazzling
39:08 <mort-> Day
39:18 <mort-> Once i do that double grasp on you
39:28 <mort-> I'm fked for the rest of the day
39:39 <tristen> you can grapple people all dazzling if you're wearing one of those oldschool mexian wrestling outfits
39:41 <Hydrazine> jerus can hammer allll day.
39:44 <mort-> Well not entirely true
39:49 <Hydrazine> and a mask!
39:51 <tristen> mexican
39:52 <tristen> aye!
39:53 <mort-> That's why
39:58 <mort-> Khaz came around
40:05 <MekkisScreen> I WILL level Itzamna to 11th
40:20 <MekkisScreen> however: 
40:30 <mort-> Mort got pissed with doing mostly nothing in combat
41:02 <MekkisScreen> I think hours per level spellsa and effects should be allowed to be precast
41:05 <mort-> I didn't realise my melee damage would scale up that badly though
41:26 <tristen> hydra this is you and mort: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud68cBVIqfc
41:27 <mort-> Was quite a shock when i started doing swings
41:50 <Hydrazine> rofl!
41:57 <mort-> I can't watch
41:59 <mort-> Work
42:07 <tristen> gold!
42:11 <Hydrazine> Conan sucker-punches some dude's mount.
42:16 <Hydrazine> Drops him like a ton of horse.
42:19 <mort-> Lol
42:27 * mort- giggles
43:06 <mort-> Well why i created khaz
43:16 <mort-> Was one to give myself melee lessons
43:36 <mort-> Then next. I wanted something that i could fight in reasonably well
43:45 <mort-> But do special stuff if i needed to
44:03 <mort-> I think it really is toughness at leveg 3
44:18 <MekkisScreen> who's playing in Avatar's game this afternoon?
44:31 <mort-> Phly trist hydra
44:47 <mort-> Hopefully pree
45:02 <Hydrazine> Buh.
45:02 <MekkisScreen> and what's Ballig's game this Friday?
45:05 <mort-> S i can toss more gnomes in the air
45:12 <mort-> Fs1
45:26 <mort-> That's why i said i need a new toon
45:27 <MekkisScreen> who's playing that?
45:36 <MekkisScreen> they're called characters, you know
45:46 <mort-> Hydra trist phly
45:48 <MekkisScreen> because they're supposed to have, you know CHARACTER
45:52 <mort-> Its a mouthful
45:57 <mort-> And I'm on cell
46:02 <MekkisScreen> so am I
46:13 <mort-> You suck. I don't
46:16 <tristen> sorry i declined friday
46:28 <tristen> unless i do another level 1
46:32 <mort-> Then probably it won't happen
46:37 <tristen> oskars 2 now
46:39 <mort-> Because i am not really sure
46:45 <mort-> If i can play at work
46:55 <MekkisScreen> tristen: I've decided to push City of Strangers back a week, for you
47:18 <tristen> wow ok, cheers
47:32 <tristen> i don't know if the special is sat AND sunday both weeks
47:43 * MekkisScreen cares about continuity
48:01 <mort-> You won't get it from me
48:05 <tristen> fair call! yep
48:16 <mort-> My very first game was city of strangers 2
48:30 <MekkisScreen> why do  you do that to yourself?
48:44 <tristen> are you able to take the other guys through qfp in the meantime?
48:53 <Avatar> I might ditch the special and just do QFP
48:54 <tristen> (i played qfp out at the con)
48:54 <mort-> I had no clue
49:04 <mort-> i came in
49:09 <mort-> And they were running
49:21 <mort-> And they said ok get rolling and moving
49:32 <mort-> So i  came in with all kinds of shit
49:39 <mort-> No idea what to do with spells
50:03 <mort-> So yes. A complete blur mort
50:08 <MekkisScreen> one other thing: I want to take a bunch of people who are gong to Conquest through Shadow's Last Stand 1 at high tier
50:29 <tristen> is conquest the gig at easter?
50:35 <MekkisScreen> yeah
50:52 <Avatar> mekkis do you still want to do next week's game at 11am
50:56 <tristen> sure, so level up like we are now?
51:23 <mort-> If i were avatar id probably go for the special
51:25 <MekkisScreen> nope
51:33 <mort-> Because they don't pop around often!
51:34 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: I stated that earlier
51:45 <Avatar> but at 11am I mean
51:54 <Avatar> is the important part
52:12 <MekkisScreen> what are you implying?
52:35 <MekkisScreen> if there are enough players, and noone else wants to run something, I'll run something at 11am
52:48 <Avatar> are you happy with the time
52:57 <MekkisScreen> if someone else wants to run something on Saturday, I'll stand aside
53:10 <Avatar> no I'm setting up so you're definitely doing it that day
53:21 <MekkisScreen> (if they're rather run it at 1pm, then that's fine too)
54:01 <mort-> I dont care as long we get a party going :d
54:23 <MekkisScreen> well... put it down as 11am
54:28 <MekkisScreen> and we'll take it from there
54:32 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Thu 4pm (Avatar, game in progress) / Fri 7pm (Ballig, new game) / Sat 1pm (Avatar, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
54:54 <mort-> What we doing?
54:56 <mort-> !
55:02 * mort- bounces
55:07 <MekkisScreen> looks like Avatar is running QFP2?
55:18 <MekkisScreen> or did I interpret that incorrectly?
55:19 <mort-> Ok!
55:26 <mort-> Got bard?
55:30 <Avatar> you can grab the two weeks in a row afterwards
55:36 <MekkisScreen> I'll bring Itzamna
55:42 <mort-> I hope itz won't irritate me the way asmel did
55:44 <mort-> :p
55:57 <MekkisScreen> no
55:57 <mort-> Seriously. You irritated mort :(
56:02 <MekkisScreen> he worships Desna
56:13 <tristen> hey does a ring of protection contribute to touch a/c?
56:31 <mort-> Could i think.
56:51 <Avatar> mort have you played part 1
56:53 <tristen> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/glossary#TOC-Bonus-Deflection-
56:54 <tristen> ah!
57:06 <mort-> Part 1 of?
57:12 <Avatar> city of strangers
57:16 <mort-> No
57:24 <mort-> I can't play part 2
57:31 <mort-> Because i played already
57:45 <mort-> And got a porn flick drawn on the floor
57:53 <mort-> With stickmen
57:55 <MekkisScreen> tristen: Shadow's Last Stand part 1 is a 1-7
58:10 <mort-> Because i was trying to get information
58:16 <mort-> On how the guy looks like
58:18 <tristen> okee mekkis, yeah i'm in!
58:26 <MekkisScreen> Grolschmir's played it at 6-7, and I'm pushing for part 2 to be run at conquest, at 6-7
58:33 <mort-> I know everyone found it amusing
58:50 <MekkisScreen> (before Grolschmir hits 8)
58:56 <mort-> Grolsch is also pretty much invulnerable
58:58 <MekkisScreen> (to provide closure)
58:59 <mort-> :p
59:16 <mort-> Higher level characters?
59:25 <MekkisScreen> mort-: Grolschmir got knocked unconscious - twice - in Shadow's last stand 1
59:38 <mort-> Geez
59:45 <mort-> Ok. We run this with a healer
59:54 <MekkisScreen> there was a healer
59:58 <mort-> I still can't believe we actually got adventuring done
00:01 <tristen> gawd i hope i can get leis up to 6...i'll try, but i'm not playing him at the special...
00:05 <mort-> Without a healer
00:15 <mort-> That's insane
00:15 <tristen> or tasiv actually...
00:54 <mort-> Actually my main gripe about playing a melee class without spells
01:28 <mort-> Is that you depend on your group casters to deal with special situations
01:43 <mort-> And what happens if they are nub and didn't bring the stuff
02:08 <mort-> Maybe before the party sets out for an adventure
02:33 <mort-> Khaz should say if i use any scrolls - its fees divided between us all
02:49 <Avatar> now you know how we feel mort
03:08 <mort-> Mort doesn't mind
03:12 <mort-> Truly
03:21 <mort-> But khaz needs gc
04:40 <MekkisScreen> tristen: I was thinking you'd run Tasic
04:44 <MekkisScreen> Tasic
04:49 <MekkisScreen> what level's Tasiv?
05:53 <MekkisScreen> I might run Shadow's Last Stand at 3-4, if that's the APL (and still push for 6-7 at conquest)
06:16 <tristen> he's 5 atm
06:21 <tristen> yeah i'll run tasiv
06:26 <tristen> he's gathering cobwebs...
06:41 <tristen> and i'm not THAT unhappy about him now i've learnt a thing or two...
07:54 <mort-> 4 wizard mort
08:05 <tristen> yeah i'll check but i think he's JUST hit 5
08:21 <tristen> so i can plan to play shadow's last stand pt1
08:30 <tristen> and two scenarios at the con
08:33 <tristen> at least
08:37 <tristen> and get him to 6
08:43 <tristen> i think that's do-able
09:07 <tristen> depends when you run part 2 of course...
09:20 <mort-> I get irritated
09:23 <tristen> hey where do i register for this con-thingie?
09:32 <mort-> With morts lack of combat utility
10:51 <Avatar> do rangers get anything decent at higher levels
11:28 <tristen> yeah-ish
11:45 <tristen> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger
11:59 <tristen> scroll down to combat style options
12:13 <tristen> Archery If the ranger selects archery, he can choose from the following list whenever he gains a combat style feat: Far Shot, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, and Rapid Shot. At 6th level, he adds Improved Precise Shot and Manyshot to the list. At 10th level, he adds Pinpoint Targeting and Shot on the Run to the list.
12:23 <tristen> improved precise shot is freaking nice
12:48 <tristen> pinpoint targeting is scary
13:26 <tristen> As a standard action, make a single ranged attack. The target does not gain any armor, natural armor, or shield bonuses to its Armor Class. You do not gain the benefit of this feat if you move this round.
13:32 <Avatar> rolling vs touch
13:42 <tristen> aye
13:54 <mort-> Gun slingers
13:56 <Avatar> how much do slaying arrows cost?
14:01 <tristen> cheap!
14:02 <mort-> Can do the same
14:07 <tristen> big slaying 4k
14:08 <mort-> What do slaying arrows do
14:13 <mort-> More damage or?
14:13 <tristen> little slaying 2.5k
14:14 <Avatar> 4k isn't cheap
14:19 * mort- feels cold
14:20 <Avatar> even 2.5k isn't cheap :P
14:27 <tristen> sec
14:28 <Avatar> I guess you only need one per big baddie
14:32 tristen is now known as Oskar11
14:34 <Oskar11> @bow1
14:35 <diebot> Oskar11, attack: [1d20=7] 32; damage: [1d8=3] 7
14:35 <Avatar> but that's still expensive
14:49 <Avatar> are there any other arrow variations you can use
14:53 <Avatar> that are cheap
14:57 <mort-> What does slaying do
15:03 <Avatar> slays
15:14 <Oskar11> greater slaying is save or die or take 100hp
15:25 <Oskar11> lesser i think is half that
15:34 <Oskar11> the dc on lesser i think is fort20
15:39 <Oskar11> maybe fort23 on greater...
15:40 <Oskar11> i think
15:41 <mort-> So that one hit you did on me
15:45 <mort-> I would have died?
15:47 <mort-> God
15:49 <Oskar11> yep
15:59 <Oskar11> but i wouldn't use it in pvp...
16:05 <Oskar11> no point
16:31 <mort-> I would make the fortitude save
16:39 <mort-> But still 100><
16:51 <Oskar11> yeah that's the hurtful part of it
16:55 <mort-> !throw 1d20+12
16:55 <diebot> mort-, 1d20+12: [1d20=18] 30
17:08 <Oskar11> and yeah 4k isn't cheap but...still...
17:16 <mort-> I can't stop at least one of your arrows from hitting
17:21 <mort-> But its a sick thing
17:28 <Avatar> it's a good last resort
17:34 <Oskar11> yes
17:39 <Oskar11> ace up the sleeve
17:43 <mort-> If i knew its the glove of arrow deflect
17:50 <mort-> There is a glove you know
17:52 <mort-> For that
17:52 <Oskar11> heheh yeah!
17:58 <mort-> I looked into it as well
18:02 <Oskar11> one arrow a round or more?
18:05 <Avatar> fucking arrow deflection
18:10 <mort-> Then decided you weren't worth the trouble :p
18:13 <mort-> ^^
18:13 <Oskar11> it's not so bad
18:18 <mort-> Per day
18:22 <mort-> Sorry. I not monk
18:25 <Oskar11> arrow deflection i only realised
18:26 <MekkisScreen> you need to speficy which creature it is
18:30 <mort-> I smelly magus
18:41 <Oskar11> if a character is approaching me i get two aoos before they're 5ft from me
18:42 <Avatar> yeah
18:52 <Avatar> slaying arrow (humanoid)
19:05 <Oskar11> so i can call each shot
19:18 <Oskar11> wait until they deflect one arrow
19:30 <Oskar11> and then bam!
19:36 <Oskar11> my ac is now 19 btw!
20:10 <Oskar11> i'm so going to die this weekend
20:57 <Avatar> good luck though !
22:08 <Oskar11> yeah - you'll see me somewhere at the back!
22:11 <Oskar11> hiding behind other players
22:25 <Avatar> yeah but
22:28 <Avatar> someone's gotta go first 
22:41 <Oskar11> stop freaking me out!
22:45 <Avatar> so much for cooperate !
22:52 <Avatar> you go first! no you go first !
23:15 * Oskar11 shoves the wizard forward
23:22 <Avatar> haha
24:10 <Oskar11> i didn't realise the +4 on my bow applies to damage too...
24:26 <Oskar11> and i didn't realise the deadly aim applies to damage too...
24:49 <Oskar11> @bowpbda
24:49 <diebot> Oskar11, attack1: [1d20=15] 38; damage1: [1d8=8] 23; attack2: [1d20=13] 29; damage2: [1d8=6] 21; attack3: [1d20=16] 29; damage3: [1d8=4] 19
24:58 <Oskar11> owch
25:11 Oskar11 is now known as tristen
25:57 <tristen> i really need to stop bitching about sundering...
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33:22 <tristen> hello phly
33:56 <mort-> Hello phly
34:04 * mort- phlys the phly
35:27 <mort-> 23 damage?
35:30 <mort-> Are you serious?
35:42 <mort-> That's my fking weapon broken!
36:09 * mort- growls at tristen
36:19 <mort-> Thank gods i have spares :d
37:54 <mort-> And trist you qualify for paladin hood :p
38:23 <mort-> I'm not sure if i realised the existence of arrows of slaying
38:36 <mort-> I would be able to resist the temptation of using them
40:14 <tristen> nah that's not to break your weapon
40:31 <tristen> that's just normal to-hit-and-damage-stuff
40:49 <tristen> that's just normal to-hit-and-damage you!
40:51 <tristen> hehe
42:25 <mort-> Not to mention we were basically going avada kedavra at each other
42:36 <mort-> And i failed the save heh
42:58 <mort-> I didn't realise arrow slaying stuff works
43:23 <mort-> Ok. Suggestions on how mort can make herself usefum
43:32 <mort-> No spells involved
43:38 <tristen> yeah the arrow of slaying isn't very...constructive...in pvp...
44:06 <mort-> My argument is this
44:27 <mort-> What's the difference between pointed your rod at the guy next to you
44:44 <mort-> And casting avada kedevra
44:57 <mort-> The end result is the same ^^
45:33 <tristen> wth is avada kedevra?
46:27 <tristen> is that a variant of abra kadabra?
46:40 <mort-> Don't you watch harry potter?
47:51 <tristen> lol don't tell me abra kadabra is copyrighted???
48:01 <tristen> i bet it is!
48:03 <tristen> lolol
48:26 <mort-> Basically its the killing curse
48:35 <mort-> In harry potter
49:14 <tristen> ah! probably not then...
49:21 <tristen> yeah just wiki'd it
49:37 <mort-> Aka phantasmal killer in urm dnd
49:42 <mort-> I'm proud of myself
49:45 <mort-> Dodged 2
49:54 <mort-> If i had thought fast enough
50:12 <mort-> Could have counterspelled the third
50:15 <tristen> speaking of fast enough
50:23 <tristen> is no armour still a speed of 30ft?
50:43 <mort-> Yeah
50:56 <mort-> You want to move faster ask khaz for lessons
51:09 <mort-> For short distances he can put hoku to shame
51:26 <mort-> Round 1
51:47 <mort-> Expedious retreat. Move speed to 50
51:58 <tristen> lol
51:59 <mort-> Round 2 haste move speed to 80
52:13 <tristen> nice!
52:20 <mort-> Round 3 greater animal aspect move speed to 110
52:20 <tristen> yeah that's good positioning
52:25 <tristen> wow
52:43 <mort-> And. I can hold it for 7 rounds longer
52:54 <mort-> Then my buffs all start to drop off ^^
54:43 <mort-> Oh and why I'm yelling to you about your hp
54:56 <mort-> Say a nice fluffy winged lizard takes a breath at you
55:21 <mort-> Roll your reflex. 23 saves
55:28 <mort-> !throw 12d8
55:28 <diebot> mort-, 12d8: [12d8=7,6,5,1,8,7,2,6,4,8,1,8] 63
55:40 tristen is now known as Oskar11
55:43 <Oskar11> @reflex
55:44 <diebot> Oskar11, reflex: [1d20=12] 23
55:47 <Oskar11> hehe
55:55 <Oskar11> take half?
55:56 <mort-> You take half of that 63
55:58 <mort-> Yes
56:02 <mort-> But if you didn't
56:08 <Oskar11> nearly dead
56:15 <mort-> That breath could potentially kill you
56:18 <mort-> Instantly
56:34 <Oskar11> yeah i'll not be tanking
56:41 <mort-> And if fluffy decides to flame another round?
56:42 <Oskar11> i'll be thinking very carefully about where i am
56:45 <mort-> Your fked
56:55 <mort-> They have 200 move speed you know
56:58 <Oskar11> anyone would be though!
57:24 <mort-> I think
57:33 <mort-> Our best bet is to enlarge hoku
57:39 <Oskar11> two of those...
57:42 <mort-> So he can pin that thing down
57:45 <mort-> ^
59:20 <mort-> !throw 1d20+8
59:20 <diebot> mort-, 1d20+8: [1d20=14] 22
59:34 <mort-> Yep I'm fked as well ^^
03:42 <Oskar11> yeah i've really cranked my dex
04:01 Oskar11 is now known as tristen
05:04 <mort-> Yeah
05:14 <mort-> Id be down to half hp
05:30 <mort-> Oh yes. Look into little khaz and his heals
05:35 <mort-> Or attempts to :p
05:57 <mort-> !throw 10#1d20+5 umd
05:57 <diebot> mort-, umd: [1d20=18] 23, [1d20=9] 14, [1d20=4] 9, [1d20=1] 6, [1d20=2] 7, [1d20=15] 20, [1d20=12] 17, [1d20=7] 12, [1d20=5] 10, [1d20=7] 12
06:05 <mort-> Lol
06:09 <mort-> Sure painful
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07:38 <tristen> actually
07:55 <tristen> could i have used acrobatics instead of reflex?
08:16 <mort-> Nope
08:23 <tristen> yeah i'd need that thingie
08:26 <tristen> what's it called
08:27 <mort-> Dragon breath is reflex
08:34 <mort-> Ring of evasion
08:44 <mort-> Hoku would easily dodge that
08:47 <tristen> evasion
08:49 <tristen> yeah
08:59 <mort-> Khaz would be swearing most of the way
09:12 <mort-> My reflex isn't that good
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09:57 <Oskar11> if i had evasion check this out
10:01 <Oskar11> @acro
10:02 <diebot> Oskar11, acrobatics: [1d20=10] 30
10:11 Oskar11 is now known as tristen
10:15 <mort-> Evasion
10:19 <mort-> Doesn't do that
10:24 <mort-> Just lets you take nothing
10:28 <mort-> On dragon breath
10:53 <tristen> ah it's only a rogue thing
10:57 <tristen> leis has it
11:00 <mort-> Because you just dodged him clean
11:00 <tristen> that's why...
11:01 <mort-> Wrong
11:07 <mort-> Monks have it to
11:12 <tristen> wrong?
11:20 <mort-> There is a ring that will grant you evasion
11:46 <tristen> yeah i was talking about this:
11:46 <tristen> At 2nd level and higher, a rogue can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If she makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, she instead takes no damage. Evasion can be used only if the rogue is wearing light armor or no armor. A helpless rogue does not gain the benefit of evasion.
11:56 <tristen> actually that's reflex
12:00 <mort-> Yeah
12:00 <tristen> but yeah
12:09 <mort-> Think about that ring
12:17 <mort-> What did you spend your money on actually
12:25 <tristen> !throw At 2nd level and higher, a rogue can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If she makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, she instead takes no damage. Evasion can be used only if the rogue is wearing light armor or no armor. A helpless rogue does not gain the benefit of evasion.
12:30 <tristen> oops
12:31 <tristen> !throw 36000+36000+4057+2000+750+750+600+315+200+180+80+60+30+12+6
12:34 <tristen> don't work!
12:42 <tristen> i thought i could use a calculator
12:42 <MekkisScreen> it needs a d
12:49 <tristen> yeah no problemo
12:58 <MekkisScreen> !throw ruby sheetextract.rb > /srv/www/htdocs/~mekkis/extraction.txt
13:03 <tristen> 36000gp on the belt of mighty dexterity +6
13:04 <tristen> 36000gp on the +4 enhancement to the composite longbow
13:04 <tristen>  4057gp on the greater slaying arrow, humans.
13:04 <tristen>  2000gp on the ring of protection
13:04 <tristen>   750gp on the CLW wand
13:06 <tristen>   750gp on the potion of haste
13:08 <tristen>   600gp on the masterwork composite longbow +2 strength
13:11 <tristen>   315gp on the masterwork longsword
13:13 <tristen>   200gp on the potion of true seeing
13:16 <tristen>   180gp on the 3 adamantine arrows
13:18 <tristen>    80gp on the 40 silver arrows
13:21 <tristen>    60gp on the 3 flasks of alchemists fire
13:23 <tristen>    30gp on the 3 flasks of acid
13:26 <tristen>    12gp on the sunrods
13:28 <tristen>     6gp on the 120 arrows
13:31 <tristen> there we go mort
13:33 <tristen> = 81040gp total
13:57 <tristen> a bit of beer money left over...
13:57 <MekkisScreen> monk?
13:59 <MekkisScreen> really?
14:01 <tristen> archer!
14:11 <mort-> Archer
14:12 <MekkisScreen> archer monk?
14:17 <tristen> just archer!
14:18 <mort-> I personally wouldn't spend
14:33 <mort-> That much on dex
14:39 <MekkisScreen> because it looks like your AC will suck
14:45 <tristen> my ac does suck
14:48 <tristen> 19ac
15:16 <MekkisScreen> mort-: like Deceased spending 36000gp on a headband of int
15:24 <MekkisScreen> and a similar amount on a rod?
15:45 <tristen> see the problem is i need dex to fight
16:05 <tristen> and armour maxes out my dex too low
16:08 <MekkisScreen> dexs only gives you +hit and + damage?
16:21 <MekkisScreen> sorry, +hit and +ac?
16:34 <tristen> yep but with a mithril breastplate
16:42 <tristen> the ac goes up to 21
16:48 <MekkisScreen> use mithril chain shirt
16:55 <tristen> it only goes up to 20
16:55 <MekkisScreen> drop the belt to +4
17:06 <mort-> Told you
17:07 <MekkisScreen> buy bracers of archery
17:11 <tristen> i'd have to spend a shitload on enchanting armour
17:18 <mort-> Yeah good stuffed that
17:23 <mort-> I didn't enchat my armor
17:26 <tristen> atm my ac is 19 and my touch ac is 19
17:30 <mort-> Weapons are only +1
17:37 <tristen> and i can't be caught flat-footed
17:40 <mort-> I figured that
17:46 <MekkisScreen> +4 bow
17:51 <MekkisScreen> not +2 holy
17:53 <mort-> My mass of damage would come from my touch
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17:55 <MekkisScreen> or something?
18:04 <tristen> no just plain +4
18:25 <mort-> I should have countered your spells
18:26 <mort-> Lol
18:32 <mort-> I could have
18:50 <MekkisScreen> how many times do you prepare phantasmal killer?
18:58 <mort-> I can pull out
19:09 <mort-> Using magus pool
19:23 <MekkisScreen> isn't that a standard action?
19:26 <mort-> 4 times
19:26 <mort-> Actually
19:35 <mort-> During my turn
19:47 <mort-> I should have swift action prepared it
19:52 <mort-> So on yours i counter
20:29 <mort-> I pulled out a hideous laughter after oskar resisted the first one
21:02 <MekkisScreen> deceased doesn't use enchantment
21:34 <mort-> But yes in a way i do have some weird stuff
21:47 <mort-> I can pull out phantasmal killer 4 x
21:50 <mort-> If i want
22:05 <mort-> I thought of using it instead of hideous laughter
22:21 <mort-> But found the rod too expensive
22:40 <mort-> Besides i don't really need to instantly kill people
22:56 <mort-> 11 rounds is enough to do what needs to be done
24:11 <MekkisScreen> instantly killing people is a good skill to have
24:22 <mort-> Yeah but i don't need to
24:28 <mort-> Both use will save.
24:44 <mort-> My dc is only enough to pwn pure tank classes
24:50 <mort-> Like oskar
25:18 <mort-> Yes you have 25 on dc
25:34 <mort-> Makes it viable for you. Not so for me
27:37 <mort-> I really wonder how I'm going to feel about khaz as he levels up
28:13 <mort-> Basically if a monster is disabled he isn't too much of a threat
28:42 <mort-> I dislike instant killing really
29:05 <mort-> I personally think its hard to instant kill
29:51 <mort-> Oh yes mek. Suggestions on how to improve damage on mort without using spells
30:02 <mort-> Though i think i should ask hydra about it as well
51:17 <tristen> hey why would i spend 25K on bracers of archery?
52:30 <tristen> when i could spend 36K on increasing dex by 6?
54:24 <tristen> or even 16K on increasing dex by 4?
54:55 <mort-> Because archery gives damage as well?
55:14 <tristen> the bracers give +2/+1
55:19 <tristen> hardly worth it...
55:49 <tristen> the increase in dex increases my ac
55:55 <tristen> and dex based skills
55:59 <tristen> and attack
56:11 <tristen> the bracers are nonsense
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00:16 <Phly> You guys ready for todays game?
00:47 <mort-> Damage pwns :d
00:54 * mort- wags tail
01:04 <mort-> Hydrazine!
01:42 <mort-> Sure hope he ain't working in the morning
02:03 <Phly> Avatar, Hydrazine and tristen u ready
02:23 <mort-> Hydqa isn't here
02:26 <mort-> Trist is
02:34 <Phly> is avatar?
02:41 <mort-> He should be
02:59 <Phly> i dont want to postpone this game any longer
03:13 <mort-> Problem is
03:17 <mort-> What to do?
03:23 <mort-> I play hokubi?
03:26 <mort-> I could i guess
03:35 <mort-> And hydra would kill me later
03:55 <mort-> I grope enough gnomes to know how to grope
03:58 <tristen> yeah ima here
04:06 mort- is now known as Khazaran
04:19 <Khazaran> @groping gnomes
04:20 <diebot> Khazaran, to molest a gnome!: [1d20=3] 8
04:29 <tristen> you fail to molest the gnome
04:30 <Phly> lol
04:33 <Khazaran> Oh shit gnome got away
05:00 <Phly> do u guys know what Kony is?
05:14 <Khazaran> What is that
05:31 <tristen> if it's disgusting i don't want to know...
05:31 <Phly> no idea everyone at my school is talking about it, i think its a viral vid
05:46 <Phly> ill google it and tell u what comes up
05:57 <Khazaran> Trist help me check hokubis stats
06:02 <Khazaran> I can play him i think
06:15 <tristen> uhm
06:20 <Khazaran> Just give me the cmb for grapple :d
06:25 <Khazaran> That's all i need to know
06:28 <Khazaran> And perception
06:32 <Khazaran> Initiative checks
06:33 <tristen> hehehe!
06:45 <tristen> man were you watching him grapple the croc?
06:46 <Khazaran> Saves too
06:53 <Khazaran> +8?
06:54 <tristen> you know, THE CROC
06:58 <Phly> just change ur name to hokui and then just use his macros
07:13 Khazaran is now known as hokubi
07:18 <hokubi> @gra
07:23 <Phly> gra1
07:24 <hokubi> Damn
07:34 <hokubi> @gra1
07:35 <Phly> its gra1
07:48 <tristen> no "GRA" is for when you're playing godzilla
07:49 hokubi is now known as Hokubi
07:52 <tristen> GRAAAA
07:57 <Phly> lol
07:59 <Hokubi> @gra1
07:59 <diebot> Hokubi, grapple: [1d20=8] 15
08:12 <Hokubi> @init
08:13 <diebot> Hokubi, initiative: [1d20=5] 11
08:19 <tristen> avatar
08:26 <Hokubi> @see
08:27 <Phly> avatar we need u!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:36 <Hokubi> No perception
08:40 <Phly> hydar is here he just came on skype
08:43 <Phly> hydra
08:52 <tristen> if we've got everyone but whatshisname the preebitz guy
09:04 <Hokubi> Oh oh
09:08 <tristen> lol
09:08 <Phly> mort u can play prebitz
09:11 <Hokubi> I think i need until hide
09:17 Hokubi is now known as khazaran
09:25 <khazaran> Ah no one will ever know
09:30 <khazaran> I was trying to fake it
09:36 <tristen> shoulda just used a stealth check
09:49 <Phly> lol
10:27 <tristen> (chanting) a-va-tar! a-va-tar!
10:48 <Phly> i messaged him on skype and he isnt responding
10:56 <tristen> he connected a second ago...
11:14 <tristen> well 10 minutes ago
11:57 <khazaran> Call his phone
12:42 <Phly> someone else do it im listening to music and i dont want it to be interupted
13:05 <tristen> dunno if we've got hydra yet
13:19 <Phly> ill skype message him
13:23 * khazaran slaps hydrazine_
14:09 <tristen> gawd i can't bear using oskar at level 1
14:12 <Phly> dam its like 12 am where he is
14:16 tristen is now known as Oskar
14:45 Phly is now known as Ridali
14:51 <khazaran> I hope he didn't pass out
14:56 <khazaran> After work
15:04 <khazaran> It happens to the best of us
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16:09 tristen is now known as Oskar
16:12 <Ridali> is we dont start by 4:45 im going
16:19 <Ridali> if*
16:21 <khazaran> Fair enough
16:33 <khazaran> Try call hydra trist
16:48 <Ridali> i need to go do some exercise and im messing up my schedule atm
16:52 <khazaran> But i think these days he is more busy
17:33 khazaran is now known as mort-
17:53 <Oskar> no i won't wake hydra up unless avatar is here
18:19 <Avatar-> ug
18:20 <Ridali> fine im calling avatar
18:29 <mort-> He is
18:30 <Ridali> finnaly
18:30 <Oskar> hola!
18:34 <mort-> I can take hokubi
18:39 <mort-> If need
18:39 <Avatar-> sorry guys I'm stuck at centrelink
18:48 <mort-> How long more then
19:18 <Avatar-> hydrazine wasn't going to show
19:26 <Oskar> mort you canna take hokubi!
19:27 <mort-> Really?
19:29 <Avatar-> and jaggedsoul isn't here either
19:32 <Oskar> this is THE scene
19:33 <mort-> Can i play him?
19:42 <Avatar-> he must have gotten held up too
19:44 <mort-> Who was jagged in that
19:54 <Avatar-> no you can't play him
19:59 <mort-> :(
20:10 * mort- wants to be a monk for a day
20:11 <Oskar> he'll be pissed if he misses out on the last scene...
20:21 <mort-> Uh
20:29 <mort-> I don't mind missing that one out
20:36 <mort-> But that shoulm be in private
20:48 <mort-> Testtwo oskar
20:49 <Avatar-> we'll do it on the weekend if we can
21:01 <Oskar> yeah speaking of which
21:05 Oskar is now known as tristen
21:17 <Ridali> ahhhh RAGE!!!!!!!!
21:31 <Ridali> well im rage quitting cya guys later
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21:42 <mort-> Well
21:55 <mort-> Tristen
21:57 <mort-> Testtwo
23:41 <tristen> lol rage-quitting!
23:50 <mort-> Get to testtwo
23:52 <mort-> :p
27:39 <Avatar-> rage!
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53:57 AndChat| is now known as mort-
57:15 <MekkisScreen> mmmm
57:17 <MekkisScreen> latte
58:22 * mort- slaps mekkis - coffee is bad for you!
58:37 <MekkisScreen> what's wrong with coffee
58:55 <MekkisScreen> coffee isn't like cigarettes
59:04 <MekkisScreen> there IS a safe minimum
03:02 <mort-> It does weird things to me
03:09 <mort-> Did you watch over the hedge?
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12:12 <MekkisScreen> no
12:38 <MekkisScreen> I used to be addicted: needed like 3 or four double shots a day
12:39 <tristen> nothing like a coffee in the late-afternoon!
12:57 <MekkisScreen> I've dropped to a single single shot a day
13:05 <MekkisScreen> with one or two days off each week
13:05 <tristen> that's not too bad
13:15 <tristen> i'd cap it at a double-shot a day
13:20 <tristen> bugger the single shot
13:53 <MekkisScreen> I've also resolved to only having lattes
14:18 <MekkisScreen> to make it require more effort to have a coffee
14:37 <MekkisScreen> (frothing the milk)
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18:18 <tristen> ah! the fettacino!
18:45 <tristen> milk in coffee disgusts me...
19:50 <MekkisScreen> you need to keep the machine in good cleanliness
20:11 <MekkisScreen> and it helps if the coffee your work supplies isn't particularly good :S
20:17 <Avatar> tea 4eva !
21:16 <MekkisScreen> so nothing's happening tonight?
22:06 <MekkisScreen> how much is a wand of Holy Sword?
22:13 <MekkisScreen> 7*4*750?
22:33 <MekkisScreen> 21000gp
22:36 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
22:41 <MekkisScreen> that's actually worth it
23:10 <Avatar> I can run that game anytime tonight, if people are here for it
23:27 <MekkisScreen> how much PA is that?
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23:53 <Avatar> good on you spaceshot
24:22 <MekkisScreen> and that's why my character got horribly killed
24:35 <MekkisScreen> goddamn mooncalves
24:46 <MekkisScreen> I learnt from that mistake though
25:57 <Avatar> what are mooncalves
26:35 <MekkisScreen> horrible things
26:47 <MekkisScreen> from the second monster book
29:18 <tristen> avatar: what did you have in mind?
29:58 <tristen> the first steps thing?
30:01 <tristen> or something new?
31:26 <Spaceshot> yes avatar?
32:12 <Spaceshot> are we not going to the tournament or something? or did we get a weekend long thing or what?
33:32 <Avatar> I'm not going
33:35 <MekkisScreen> I think I'll wait until Grolschmir hits level 12 before I play Ruby Pheonix Tournament
33:35 <Avatar> doesn't make sense anymore
33:43 <Avatar> tristen: finishing first steps 3
33:51 <Avatar> this weekend i'll run QFP 2 instead
34:22 <Spaceshot> what happened?
34:30 <Avatar> no reply from darkwhite
34:40 <Spaceshot> yea that doesn't help
34:40 <MekkisScreen> regarding?
34:44 <Avatar> it wasn't looking good to begin with, but they're obviously having dramas organising it
34:49 <Spaceshot> mmm
34:51 <Avatar> the special
34:57 <MekkisScreen> ah
35:36 <Spaceshot> well means I don't have to leave the apartment this weekend :P
36:05 <Avatar> you can still go
36:38 <mort-> What's a mooncalf
36:44 <Avatar> actually uh
36:48 <Avatar> tristen are you going even if it takes 2 weeks?
36:48 * mort- rubs her eyes sleepily
37:05 <Spaceshot> I probably won't go if it takes more than 1 weekend
37:39 <Avatar> well mekkis was only holding off city of strangers so tristen could show up for it
42:28 <mort-> Wth is a moon calf
47:45 <tristen> yeah i will go if it takes two weeks...
47:57 <tristen> that's what i'm worried about
48:00 <tristen> with mekks game
49:10 <MekkisScreen> what?
49:30 <MekkisScreen> I'm fine with holding off City Of Strangers
51:26 <tristen> i'm not sure whether this thing will take one or two weekends
51:37 <tristen> and if it takes two weekends
51:38 <MekkisScreen> "In Soviet Russia, you abuse copyright."
51:50 <tristen> will it take both the sat and the sun of the second week
51:54 <MekkisScreen> "In Capitalist America, Copyright abuses YOU!!"
51:55 <tristen> i'll find out this weekend
52:00 <tristen> XD
52:05 <tristen> it's funny because it's true
53:29 Ballig1 is now known as Ballig
04:48 <Avatar> darkwhite's about to reply right now, apparently
06:39 <Avatar> sounds like sat + sun is doable
06:49 <Avatar> in one weekend
07:36 <Ballig> doable or is that what's planned
08:24 <Avatar> well it's in planning
08:46 <Ballig> he still hasn't planned it and it's being played this weekend?
09:08 <Avatar> right
09:13 <Avatar> it's not like planning a normal scenario
09:44 <Ballig> sounds like it's just a module
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13:04 <Avatar> alright well if they can do sat + sun, then I'll go to the special and scratch the QFP 2 game
13:24 <Brunius_> Say what
13:35 <Avatar> check your email
13:47 <Brunius_> which one
13:54 <Avatar> the one darkwhite just sent
14:18 <Brunius_> which of my email accounts do I check
14:36 <Brunius_> Ah, there
16:28 <Brunius_> Replied.
16:43 <Spaceshot> haha
16:53 <Spaceshot> so we are doing this?
16:59 <Avatar> yep
17:18 <Spaceshot> so we've also got a dude from sydney at our table
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17:35 <Brunius_> Yeah
17:49 <Spaceshot> I'm the designated healbot
18:00 <Brunius_> Gotta go, be back later
18:01 <Spaceshot> if you guys are getting owned it's because I got touched
18:02 <Spaceshot> XD
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18:13 <Avatar> man I will have a 12 AC
18:16 <Spaceshot> gonna make food, but will be a bit more happy about the weekend now :P
18:19 <Spaceshot> hahaha
18:20 <Avatar> read your pm
18:24 <Spaceshot> but you'll be in the air
33:25 <Avatar> yeah the more I think about it, the more I think I need that ring of feather fall
33:45 <Avatar> can't always just say I'll be in the air because there'll often be areas where that's not possible
52:25 <Mekkis> akrught
56:22 <Avatar> do wands of CLW hold up at higher levels
56:27 <Mekkis> yes
56:35 <Avatar> so I don't need one of CMW
56:39 <Mekkis> nope
56:43 <Avatar> sweet
56:50 <Mekkis> CLW is good for out-of-combat healing
56:52 <Mekkis> nothing else
57:04 <Avatar> hm
57:19 <Avatar> but infernal healing is better for out of combat healing
57:19 <Mekkis> you want a potion of cure moderate, or maybe even cure serious
57:53 <Mekkis> sure, if you want to carry another book with you
58:06 <Mekkis> and you can find someone willing to activate it for you
58:06 <Avatar> what do you mean
58:10 <Avatar> oh, a rulebook
58:20 <Avatar> I'm playing a witch, I can use it
58:26 <Mekkis> what's your alignment?
58:35 <Avatar> CN
58:40 <Avatar> there's no alignment restriction 
59:33 <Mekkis> yes there is
59:42 <Mekkis> it's an [evil] subtype spell
00:01 <Avatar> meaning what
00:08 <Brunius> Am I destined to be the tank
00:16 <Brunius> My AC is only 25 guys
00:27 <Avatar> can you raise it
00:35 <Avatar> what class are you again
00:40 <Brunius> With the 5k I have left? Not likely.
00:44 <Brunius> Paladin
00:46 <Mekkis> Brunius, can I see your sheet?
00:57 <Avatar> yeah show me too
01:00 <Avatar> did you upload it
01:04 <Brunius> No
01:07 <Brunius> It wouldn't upload
01:16 <Avatar> is it a text file
01:20 <Brunius> pdf
01:31 <Avatar> ballig's pdf?
01:41 <Brunius> Yeah
01:53 <Ballig> his nat doesn't let him upload it
01:57 <Ballig> or else he needs to change the settings in foxit
02:00 <Brunius> I said it might be my nat
02:07 <Avatar> just send it this way
02:07 <Brunius> what's up with my settings?
02:54 <Ballig> Brunius: try tools -> preferences -> trust manager
02:57 <Ballig> and turn safe reading mode off
03:00 <Brunius> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22217817/RPT.zip
03:23 <Brunius> It was never on
04:16 <Brunius> Still two feats to pick
05:03 <Mekkis> drop ring of protection to +1
05:05 <Avatar> dodge :P
05:08 <Mekkis> get amulet of natural armour +1
05:20 <Mekkis> that frees up 4000gp
05:25 <Avatar> if only there was improved dodge
05:59 <Brunius> What does dodge do?
06:18 <Mekkis> I'd also - on second thoughts - drop speed off the greatsword, and spend the money on scrolls (or even a wand) of Holy Sword
06:21 <Avatar> +1 AC
06:49 <Mekkis> at 21000gp, it's worth it
07:07 <Brunius> Er.
07:10 <mort-> If you want to heal out of combat
07:16 <Brunius> I've got four scrolls of holy sword already
07:19 <Brunius> You know that, right?
07:19 <Mekkis> (so it frees up another 11000gp)
07:21 <mort-> Use infernal healing :(
07:31 <Mekkis> they weren't on the equipment list, no
07:54 <Brunius> The equip list on the sheet isn't complete
07:57 <Avatar> I'll be using infernal healing, don't worry mort !
08:02 * mort- sniffs audibly as the devil gets a bigger foothold on her soul
08:03 <Brunius> The full one is in the text file
08:09 <mort-> Your selling yours off :(
08:09 <Mekkis> ah
08:13 <Mekkis> hmmm
08:41 <mort-> Btw mek. Mort does carry anti poison
08:49 <mort-> And anti plague now ^^
09:11 <mort-> Packrat...
09:27 <mort-> What is holy sword really
10:43 <mort-> Over done ?
10:52 <mort-> 4 scrolls omg?
11:28 <Brunius> Yeah
11:35 <mort-> Isn't it?
11:43 <mort-> My wizards is a pack rat
11:44 <Brunius> Turns weapon into +5 holy, I think.
11:51 <Brunius> It's pre badass
11:53 <tristen> nice
12:03 <mort-> But i don't carry more then 2 scrolls of any kind
12:16 <Brunius> So my attack rolls will be approximately +20/+20/+15/+10
12:21 <mort-> So if its see invisibility. Its once per day
12:23 <tristen> hey brunius, avatar, spaceshot it looks like we can square this tournament thing away this weekend?
12:27 <mort-> How long it lasts?
12:33 <Brunius> Yeah, that's what it looks like
12:37 <Brunius> It's in the core rulebook mort
12:50 * mort- ponders sunder ^^
12:54 <Mekkis> Brunius, deflection bonus appliesto CMD
13:02 <tristen> if we need to can we put in some overtime on the saturday to make sure we do?
13:05 <mort-> Cool thanks mek
13:06 <Brunius> 1 round/level
13:09 <Brunius> cheers mek
13:10 <mort-> I didn't know
13:14 <mort-> So it means i have 
13:19 <Avatar> tristen: yeah we're in
13:21 <Avatar> check your pm
13:23 <mort-> 37 cmd vs grapple
13:29 <mort-> Bring it on'
13:30 <tristen> whoops one sec
13:32 <mort-> !
13:35 <mort-> Lol
13:40 <mort-> I'm fked up
13:57 <mort-> Or disarm
14:05 <mort-> There are lots of ways...
14:12 <Brunius> Er, Mekkis.
14:29 <Brunius> The description for holy sword says it supersedes any normally in effect on the weapon
14:42 * mort- thinks about disarming brunius and getting balaar to grab the sword and throw it somewhere else
15:04 <Brunius> So that speed doesn't work while holy sword is on
15:14 <mort-> Best way is to spell blend burning disarm...
15:27 <mort-> Then drop it on the pally.
15:39 <mort-> Then get balaar to steal it off
15:47 * mort- gives an evil laugh
16:18 <Avatar> you're dropping speed anyway aren't you
16:44 <mort-> You know. I think khaz is really going to get an imp familiar
16:45 <Mekkis> Brunius, thats why I said you should drop speed
16:48 <mort-> Seriously
16:52 <Mekkis> and get a wand of holy sword instead
17:05 <mort-> Its a level 4 spell
17:08 <Mekkis> yeah
17:09 <Mekkis> so?
17:13 <Mekkis> 21000gp
17:16 <mort-> You sure its coming cheap?
17:24 <mort-> Speed is +1?
17:27 <Brunius> I+3
17:39 <Brunius> Speed is +3, but has to have +1 on it already
17:41 <Brunius> So +4
17:50 <Mekkis> mort-, put it this way
17:51 <mort-> I tell you khaz will get like +1 and keen on his weapon
17:52 <mort-> Ah
18:01 <Mekkis> he's spending ~36000gp on a +4 equivalent weapon
18:09 <mort-> And he will just use magus pool to haste
18:14 <Mekkis> or he could spend 21000gp on a +7 equivalent weapon!
18:20 <Brunius> Er
18:22 <Brunius> What?
18:23 <mort-> He wastes one round in combat
18:24 <mort-> Doing it
18:29 <Brunius> Why is it +7 equivalent?
18:29 <mort-> There may not be time
18:33 <mort-> There never is
18:34 <Mekkis> +5 HOLY!
18:39 <mort-> Holy
19:23 <Brunius> So?
19:54 <Mekkis> oh
20:04 <Mekkis> and it also gives you Magic Circle vs Evil
20:09 <Brunius> Yeah
20:10 <Mekkis> so +2 deflection bonus to AC
20:12 <Brunius> That's pretty good
20:18 <Mekkis> as well as other fun stuff
20:58 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:06 <Mekkis> I've been asked to run Shades of Ice...
21:08 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:11 <Brunius> Ha
21:23 <Brunius> Get Avatar in via webcam from melbourne
21:34 <Avatar> what
21:44 <Brunius> I'm saying you should DM in brissy
21:50 <Avatar> for who
21:57 <Mekkis> the people at AusCon
22:07 <Avatar> I dunno man I am not real keen on GMing at cons
22:17 <Mekkis> I was like that
22:19 <Brunius> Maybe there will be DM boons !
22:22 <Avatar> haha were you
22:24 <Mekkis> until I started getting roped into it!
22:35 <Avatar> if I got roped into it I wouldn't mind
22:40 <Avatar> but I don't really want to volunteer
22:44 <Mekkis> I got roped into it at Auscon last year
22:51 <Mekkis> then at Unicon last year
22:55 <Avatar> when you get roped in you're doing it because they need a hand
22:59 <Mekkis> (how did I do then, anyway)
23:01 <Avatar> that's fair enough
23:07 <Avatar> first steps 1 was good man
23:09 <Mekkis> then at Arcanacon early this year
23:13 <Brunius> Man I hate this essay
23:23 <Brunius> I can see why I procrastinated over it for so long
23:32 <Mekkis> so I've given up avoiding it, and I'll bring Before The Dawn and Pallid Plague this year
24:11 <Avatar> I'm interested to see how another group plays pallid plague
24:55 <Brunius> Pallid Plague was the one where we bugged that herbalist until he helped us, right?
25:09 <Ballig> can you not spoil it
25:10 <Avatar> no spoilers
25:15 <Brunius> Sorry :S
26:30 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Fri 7pm (Ballig, new game) / Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
26:58 * mort- wears earmuffs
27:41 <Ballig> will you b e here sunday mort
27:51 <mort-> Yeah
27:57 <mort-> Who you want me bring
28:05 <Ballig> up to the other guys
28:15 <mort-> Mek. Mort or khaz :p
28:23 <Avatar> which one is higher
28:24 <mort-> Both sheets aren't treated
28:32 <mort-> Mort duh
28:37 <Avatar> use mort
28:40 <mort-> But i don't want to fk apl
28:41 <Ballig> mekkis won't play because he's played it before
28:45 <mort-> Ok
28:49 <mort-> Who is attending
28:56 <Ballig> no one has accepted yet
29:00 <mort-> I need to see party make up as well
29:12 <mort-> If no healer...
29:21 <Avatar> avoid keeping your characters at the same level if you can
29:22 <Ballig> we've played without healers before
29:30 <Avatar> keep low level and high level ones
29:37 <mort-> Not sure if mort or khaz better
29:39 <Avatar> so you can pick tier-appropriate characters where you need to
29:44 <mort-> I see
29:47 <Ballig> what about kendra
29:51 <mort-> Level 1
29:59 <Ballig> has she done first steps 1
30:02 <mort-> Yes
30:06 <Ballig> sucks
30:14 <mort-> So no i need a new toon
30:27 <mort-> And mek will kill me for using the bad word
30:38 <Brunius> No one has accepted what?
30:41 <Brunius> CoS1?
30:43 <Ballig> pallid plague on sunday
30:47 <Brunius> Oh
30:47 <mort-> Mort isn't combat orientated :(
31:05 <Avatar> does false life really work the way it does in DDO
31:10 <mort-> But if no healer i think she is safer to play in a want
31:12 <mort-> May
31:16 <mort-> Dude I'm a cleric
31:27 <mort-> Why would i ever use false life
31:27 <Brunius> How does it work in DDO?
31:42 <mort-> Not sure.
31:53 <Avatar> it's bonus hp that you can cast like a heal spell
31:56 <mort-> My lich friends just negative energy burst
31:58 <Avatar> for an arcane caster
32:03 <Brunius> You get temporary HP equal to 1d10+caster level (maximum 10)
32:07 <mort-> And drain everything around them
32:10 <Brunius> Is what it says in the book
32:12 <Avatar> the bonus hp disappear before your real hp
32:18 <mort-> Yeah
32:25 <Brunius> Er
32:29 <Brunius> Maximum +10, I mean
32:43 <mort-> Anyway i play cleric in ddo
32:48 <Avatar> 1d10+10 hp will go a long way for me
32:53 <Avatar> 11 hour duration
32:56 <mort-> So. Used to healing shit :p
33:14 <mort-> Never played a caster there
33:29 <mort-> Played a pally before
33:38 <mort-> Prefer cleric
33:44 <Brunius> Can you cast it multiple times?
33:45 <mort-> Better heals. Same ac
33:55 <mort-> Ask avatar that
33:59 <Avatar> in DDO you can't
34:05 <Avatar> I don't think temp hp stacks 
34:06 <Brunius> A pally is more combat oriented than a cleric
34:10 <Avatar> I mean that makes sense
34:11 <Brunius> Pity
34:37 <mort-> Nah ddo clerics rock
34:41 <Brunius> Mort-: Where are you?
34:54 <mort-> Unless that pally has uber gear
35:01 <mort-> No where around really
35:03 <Brunius> SG?
35:07 <mort-> Work
35:08 <mort-> Yes
35:11 <Brunius> Hmmm
35:19 <mort-> I was a level 14 cleric in ddo
35:22 <mort-> ^^
35:33 <Brunius> I got svelkar to 6 before I stopped playing
35:37 <Brunius> 4cler/2rog
35:43 <mort-> Blade barrier ftw!
35:48 <mort-> I didn't x class
35:54 <Brunius> And in that, I learned not to listen to Avatar.
35:55 <Brunius> Ever.
36:02 <Avatar> what
36:11 <Brunius> That rog multiclass was a bad idea.
36:13 <Avatar> what did I tell you to do
36:20 <Brunius> Multiclass into rouge
36:21 <Avatar> it is a sweet idea man
36:26 <Brunius> er, rogue
36:30 <Avatar> were you using soundburst
36:41 <Avatar> you only need 3 levels of cleric for it
36:48 <Spaceshot> so you guys still want Ava the healbot?
36:48 <Avatar> you're meant to up your rogue to get more sneak attack
36:49 <Brunius> Yeah
36:50 <Brunius> I was
37:03 <Avatar> Spaceshot: yeah you're still the healer
37:08 <Brunius> Spaceshot: You know sheets are due noon tomorrow?
37:23 <Spaceshot> yea, I'm only 14k gold off of being finished
37:28 <Avatar> if mine's not done tonight, I'm screwed
37:35 <Brunius> ^
37:44 <tristen> i've been a good little vegemite
37:46 <Brunius> Trust all my hw to be due tomorrow
37:46 <Spaceshot> and still questioning the extra channel feat
37:48 <tristen> i'm good to go
37:51 <Spaceshot> hahaha
37:59 <Avatar> how many channels do you have
38:04 <Avatar> without
38:05 <Spaceshot> 8 without the feat
38:07 <tristen> ryan hauled oskar over the coals
38:23 <Avatar> I don't think you usually get a chance to rest during specials
38:46 <Spaceshot> I think you might, between sessions
38:51 <Spaceshot> like that being the only time
38:59 <Avatar> yeah possibly
39:13 <tristen> blood under absalom we got a night or two off
39:31 <tristen> but then it kicked in the last 4 fights i think there was no resting...
39:44 <tristen> 4 encounters
39:50 <mort-> So,
39:52 <mort-> ?
40:03 <Spaceshot> you should get arcane blast from APG avatar
40:07 <Spaceshot> it's an awesome feat for you
40:09 <mort-> I'm trying to train khaz to fight for hours on end
40:13 <mort-> Without rest.
41:32 <Avatar> I don't suppose anyone is using poison
42:09 <Brunius> Not planning to
43:18 <Spaceshot> lol, I could so make Ava a holy vindicator
43:19 <Spaceshot> XD
47:41 tristen is now known as Oskar
49:06 mort- is now known as khazaran
50:11 <Avatar> vomit swarm could be pretty sexy
50:23 <Avatar> send in a swarm of wasps to do 2d6 plus poison
50:27 <Oskar> vomiting swarms is sexy?
50:33 <Avatar> for 11 rounds
50:38 <Avatar> you tell me
50:39 <Oskar> oh you mean sexy
51:12 <Avatar> it can nauseate as well
51:15 <Avatar> <?nauseated
51:16 <diebot> Creatures with the nauseated condition experience stomach distress. Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells, or do anything else requiring attention. The only action such a character can take is a single move actions per turn.
51:22 <Avatar> HA!
51:28 <Oskar> DO IT
51:31 <Oskar> TAKE IT
51:37 <Oskar> 11 rounds?
51:39 <Oskar> man
51:49 <Avatar> fort negates, hang on
52:01 <Avatar> DC 16 I think
52:34 <Oskar> i wouldn't fancy oskars chances of beating that
53:05 khazaran is now known as Khazaran
55:36 <Avatar> brunius: did you consider mithril full plate of speed
55:51 <Avatar> 26.5K gp, can activate haste 10 rounds/day
56:14 <Avatar> max dex is +3, not sure what your is
56:26 <Avatar> +1 
56:28 <Brunius> my dex is 1
56:32 <Avatar> so that's only a -1 AC loss
56:38 <Avatar> how much did you pay for +3 full plate
56:49 <Brunius> http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Oprahs-Questions-for-James
56:51 <Brunius> Er
56:55 <Brunius> 10,650
56:56 <Avatar> lol
57:00 <Brunius> Stupid thing didn't copy
57:01 <Avatar> much less then
57:04 <Brunius> That's a hw link then
57:11 <Avatar> sucks to be in school
57:14 <Brunius> Yeah
57:20 <Brunius> I can't quit till next year
57:38 <Brunius> And by the time I can quit, I might as well go the next year and finish year 12
57:39 <Avatar> aren't you going to end of grade 12?
57:44 <Brunius> Yeah
57:48 <Avatar> can't you quit end of year 10?
57:52 <Brunius> Nope
57:55 <Avatar> how come
57:57 <Brunius> You've gotta be 17 now
57:59 <Avatar> did they change the rules
58:00 <Brunius> It used to be 15
58:10 <Avatar> well that sucks
58:27 <Avatar> I think
58:29 <Avatar> I'm not entirely sure
58:33 <Brunius> I think you're allowed to quit high school as long as you go to TAFE or somethin
58:39 <Brunius> But who would want to go to a TAFE
58:44 <Avatar> out of the frying pan
59:05 <Brunius> TAKING FEAT SUGGESTIONS
00:41 <Avatar> have you got a shortlist
00:48 <Brunius> Yeah
00:52 <Brunius> Cleave
00:55 <Brunius> And, uh, cleave
01:09 <Brunius> I don't really like cleave that much
01:10 <Avatar> well maybe take cleave
01:16 <Avatar> ok, well then don't
01:17 <Brunius> I've got two feat slots to fill
01:22 <Avatar> dodge and mobility could save your life
01:30 <Brunius> What do they do?
01:33 <Avatar> if you're taking those, spring attack might be worth considering
01:37 <Avatar> dodge is +1 AC 
01:45 <Avatar> mobility is additional +4 AC while moving through threatened areas
01:56 <Avatar> spring attack will let you move toward, away, move away
02:00 <Avatar> er
02:04 <Avatar> move toward, attack, move away
02:13 <Avatar> where normally you're confined to move-standard only
02:33 <Avatar> or 5ft-standard-move equivalent
02:35 <Brunius> Er
02:37 <Brunius> I'm on a mount
02:38 <Brunius> you realise
02:58 <Avatar> well take rideby attack
03:19 <Avatar> and spirited charge
03:35 <Brunius> ohh
03:39 <Brunius> spirited is pretty nice
03:50 <Avatar> yeah
04:06 <Brunius> Maybe I should pick up a lance
04:21 <Avatar> yeah maybe
04:29 <Avatar> it's a module character
04:52 <Avatar> just take a level in druid and get a baby roc while you're at it
04:55 <Brunius> Ha
05:00 <Brunius> I'm not a gnome
06:07 <Avatar> I think I can cast reduce person on you for a while
06:29 <Brunius> Man
06:29 <Avatar> yeah I can
06:32 <Brunius> This is getting more and more OP
06:39 <Avatar> how funny would that be
06:50 <Avatar> having to always rely on someone to cast reduce person so you can ride your mount
06:55 <Brunius> yeah
07:17 <Avatar> it lasts 1 min/level
07:25 <Brunius> :(
07:26 <Avatar> but you could even use scrolls for that probably !
07:33 <Avatar> combats don't usually take 1 minute
07:45 <Avatar> just make sure your land before 10 rounds expire
08:22 <Avatar> actually uh
08:27 <Brunius> Ring of feather falling yo
08:27 <Avatar> I can cast fly on you
10:52 <Brunius> Phew
10:57 <Brunius> English Homework done
11:24 <Avatar> I wouldn't mind having a bunch of dispel magics prepped as counterspells
11:37 <Spaceshot> heh
11:46 <Spaceshot> I would, except that cuts into reach cure mod wounds
13:30 <Spaceshot> go holy vindicator :P
13:39 <Spaceshot> except it works so much better as a cleric than a pally
14:01 <Spaceshot> I'm still not sure if I should get a weapon and be good at melee or not
14:09 <Brunius> Hmm
14:26 <Brunius> +1 and an extra attack, or +5
14:55 <Avatar> eldritch fever is sexy
15:03 <Brunius> +5 it is
15:09 <Avatar> makes spellcasters have to roll concentration checks to cast every spell
15:17 <Avatar> higher than normal concentration checks
15:39 <Spaceshot> do you have arcane blast yet avatar?
15:50 <Avatar> what's arcane blast
18:57 <Spaceshot> APG
18:59 <Spaceshot> good good feat
19:18 <Spaceshot> basically, turns your spells/spell slots into rays
19:35 <Spaceshot> with damage equal to 2d6+1d6*spell/spell slot level
19:42 <Spaceshot> and level 0 spells can't be turned into rays
19:49 <Avatar> what spell would I turn into a ray
19:57 <Avatar> that seems counterproductive
20:06 <Ballig> do you get a feat at level 10 or 11
20:07 <Spaceshot> a level 1 spell can be turned into a 3d6 ray
20:09 <Brunius> 11
20:10 <Spaceshot> how is that bad?
20:11 <Spaceshot> 11
20:11 <Brunius> I tihnk
20:13 <Brunius> think
20:24 <Spaceshot> every odd
20:39 <Spaceshot> and I don't think witches have that many damaging spells
20:45 <Avatar> oh it's like a new ability
20:48 <Spaceshot> they're more healing/buff/debuff
20:50 <Spaceshot> yea
21:04 <Spaceshot> it's a feat that gives you the ability to turn spells into rays
21:16 <Avatar> mmm that does seem good
21:27 <Brunius> Ouch
21:28 <Spaceshot> yea, prereq is arcane caster 10
21:35 <Brunius> 4th level paladin spell on a wand is 30 000
21:42 <Spaceshot> yep
21:58 <Spaceshot> because level 4 pally spells are usually level 5-7 spells
22:11 <Spaceshot> also, if you're using a wand, something is teribly wrong
22:30 <Brunius> Why?
22:45 <Brunius> If I could buy this wand with 10 charges on it, I would
22:55 <Avatar> ah
23:05 <Avatar> I think if you only want 10 charges, you're better off buying scrolls
23:12 <Spaceshot> what's the spell?
23:17 <Brunius> Don't scrolls take longer to cast
23:18 <Avatar> wands only become good when you need more than 30 charges
23:25 <Brunius> Holy Sword
23:28 <Avatar> it's the same 
23:33 <Brunius> Sweet
23:33 <Avatar> standard action
23:58 <Avatar> unless maybe you get penalised for taking each scroll out
24:03 <Spaceshot> the one that is like divine power?
24:26 <Brunius> What's divine power
24:33 <Brunius> This is +5 to touched melee weapon
24:35 <Brunius> And it's holy
24:45 <Brunius> and it's magic circle against evil
25:02 <Spaceshot> how long?
25:54 <Brunius> 1 round/caster level I think
26:14 <Avatar> spaceshot I can't afford a feat that has a 10th level pre-req, I've already chosen one
26:34 <Spaceshot> divine power is +1/3 caster levels (max 6) on attack rolls, damage rolls, str checks
26:48 <Brunius> Man
26:57 <Brunius> I am gonna give you guys aura of justice on the final boss
26:58 <Spaceshot> and +1 temp hp per caster level, and an additional attack at best to hit with a fullround attack
27:11 <Brunius> Everyone gets ANOTHER +5
27:16 <Spaceshot> haha
27:20 <Spaceshot> I DON'T HIT THINGS
27:24 <Avatar> I am going to be spending the whole time doing misfortune hex and cackling
27:26 <Spaceshot> unless I decide to lose the shield
27:27 <Brunius> You get it on your AC too
27:43 <Spaceshot> I'm still tempted to lose the shield and get a weapon
27:47 <Brunius> DO IT
27:48 <Avatar> bad guys affected roll everything twice, take worst rolls
28:03 <Avatar> some of them I will just put to sleep
28:03 <Spaceshot> I'm even tempting a level of holy vindicator
28:10 <Brunius> Man I still need to figure out my mount
28:11 <Avatar> with my all-levels sleep hex !
28:14 <Spaceshot> or 2 levels :P
28:55 <Brunius> Take ALL the levels !
28:55 <Spaceshot> well, I could even get 4 levels of holy vindicator, get a +1bab, get 1 less caster level
28:58 <Avatar> sleep is will negates, but anything affected falls asleep for 11 rounds
29:00 <Spaceshot> I think better stats and more hp
29:37 <Brunius> oh my god
29:41 <Brunius> I can get a roc as a mount
29:55 <Avatar> a normal roc?
29:58 <Brunius> I think so
30:00 <Avatar> like a gargantuan one
30:06 <Brunius> Have you got the bestiary
30:10 <Avatar> yeap
30:16 <Brunius> Hard copy?
30:20 <Avatar> no
30:22 <Avatar> they'll have one
30:37 <Brunius> I need to bring a legally obtained copy though
30:45 <Avatar> get a printout?
31:14 <Brunius> I don't have a legally obtained printout yo
31:21 <Spaceshot> no you don't
31:29 <Brunius> Do I really want to go for that OP shit though?
31:30 <Spaceshot> bestiary is part of the known set
31:35 <Brunius> Nope
31:38 <Spaceshot> it's a one off tournament
31:38 <Brunius> Read it again spaceshot
31:40 <Spaceshot> and yes, yes it is
31:41 <Avatar> oh wow
31:44 <Ballig> Avatar: how do I access bookmarks in ezpdf reader
31:44 <Spaceshot> NO YOU READ IT AGAIN
31:46 <Avatar> the DC for my hexes is DC 22
31:59 <Avatar> Ballig: second button on the bottom, told you earlier
32:20 <Avatar> nothing's going to save vs DC 22
32:28 <Ballig> that's actually outlines
32:39 <Avatar> it shows bookmarks
32:42 <Brunius> Game Masters 
32:43 <Brunius> and players whose characters utilize creatures from an 
32:43 <Brunius> approved Additional Resource (see page 4) as companions 
32:43 <Brunius> or familiars are required to have that reference at the table.
32:45 <Spaceshot> well holy vindicator won't need reach rod
32:48 <Spaceshot> that saves me 11k
32:49 <Ballig> not sure if it's showing bookmarks or if it's acting just like bookmarks
32:50 <Spaceshot> and 2 feats
32:51 <Brunius> The Bestiary is an additional resource
32:52 <Ballig> but it works either way, thanks
33:50 <Spaceshot> seriously? wow
33:53 <Spaceshot> that's balls
34:10 <Ballig> oh cool, you can do text-only versions of PDFs
34:18 <Brunius> Yeah man
34:26 <Ballig> the bestiary is only expected for GMs
36:09 <Avatar> there's a hex which allows me to give one of you +3 to AC and saves
36:11 <Brunius> And players whose characters utilize creatures from an approved Additional Resource
36:14 <Avatar> but I'm not sure I like any of you that much
36:40 <Brunius> Do it to me man
36:46 <Brunius> And I'll walk in and tank ALL the hits
36:51 <Avatar> yeah it would be to you I guess
36:56 <Avatar> what class is oskar again?
37:02 <Brunius> Archer
37:05 <Brunius> My AC will be 29
37:07 <Avatar> yeah he's right as rain
37:11 <Brunius> Then I declare smite
37:13 <Brunius> and it's 34
37:17 <Avatar> haha
37:24 <Avatar> alright
37:31 <Spaceshot> my AC might hit the early 20s
37:39 <Spaceshot> with removing the shield :P
38:08 <Spaceshot> can I channel smite against an outsider if I've got allignment channel?
38:15 <Brunius> Spaceshot: What do you glue your models with?
38:30 <Spaceshot> currently, loctite super glue
38:31 <Brunius> Feels like goddamn araldite
38:37 <Spaceshot> then? no idea
38:51 <Brunius> It looks like superglue of some kind
39:02 <Brunius> But you must have put quite a bit of it on this plasma gunner
39:09 <Avatar> there's a hex that allows me to use my hair like a weapon
39:16 <Avatar> a reach weapon
39:20 <Spaceshot> the plasma gunner maybe, I don't remember, it was so long ago
39:25 <Avatar> I wonder if I can charge
39:29 <Spaceshot> yea, prehensile hair
39:31 <Avatar> maybe I should take spirited charge
39:37 <Avatar> do double damage with my hair on a charge
40:04 <Spaceshot> haha, I'm thinking a reasonable reach weapon
40:20 <Spaceshot> because holy vindicator gets all martial and all armour profs
42:04 <Brunius> What should I name my horse
42:39 <Spaceshot> mutton
42:44 <Avatar> Ben
42:54 <Brunius> why
43:29 <Avatar> then when anyone calls for you you can say "stop trying to talk to my horse"
43:35 <Spaceshot> I'm tempted to go with the holy vindicattor over the pure healbot
43:39 <Brunius> ha
43:43 <Brunius> No.
44:06 <Avatar> so you're giong to leave us to die, is that it
44:12 <Spaceshot> what? no
44:19 <Brunius> What's CMB again?
44:22 <Avatar> can you still heal properly with vindicator
44:26 <Brunius> bab+str?
44:27 <Spaceshot> I'm going to be more useful, as in being able to do something if you guys aren't heart
44:29 <Avatar> base + str + size
44:31 <Spaceshot> hurt*
44:43 <Brunius> Er
44:45 <Avatar> can you still channel
44:48 <Brunius> what's large get on cmb?
44:55 <Avatar> -1
45:00 <Brunius> cmd?
45:02 <Spaceshot> I have 1 less level 3/4/5 spell per day, and know 1 less level 3/4/5 spell
45:05 <Spaceshot> that's about all I lose
45:08 <Spaceshot> oh, and 1 caster level
45:09 <Avatar> same
45:24 <Spaceshot> I can still channel 8times a day for 6d6
45:38 <Spaceshot> holy vindicator levels channel in it
46:06 <Ballig> for 21 hp!
46:10 <Spaceshot> I also get to use fulllplate
46:14 <Spaceshot> which is useful
47:24 <Spaceshot> I'll have to redo a lot of my items though
47:57 <Avatar> what book is it in
48:15 <Avatar> losing a caster level feels like a big deal
48:24 <Avatar> alongside losing high level spell slots
48:48 <Spaceshot> APG
49:00 <Spaceshot> I'm a spontanous caster
49:10 <Spaceshot> I don't lose level 6 spells (I don't get them till level 12)
49:16 <Spaceshot> otherwise I wouldn't even dare it
49:27 <Avatar> oh it's a prestige class, not an archetype
49:37 <Spaceshot> yea yea prestige
49:41 <Spaceshot> I get some good shit out of it
49:50 <Avatar> how many levels of vindicator would you get
50:01 <Spaceshot> could take 1 level of fighter to get level 5 vindicator, but then I'd be down so far in the healing
50:06 <Spaceshot> 4
50:15 <Spaceshot> max I can take at straight oracle before it
50:42 <Brunius> Ha
50:53 <Brunius> My horse can now smite evil 1/day
51:16 <Brunius> What's Spell Resistance do?
51:34 <Ballig> if you have spell resistance, you can resist spells!
51:41 <Ballig> it's like armour class for spells
51:44 <Spaceshot> they have to use their DC-10 of their spell +d20 roll and get over the spell resistance
51:45 <Spaceshot> or the spell fails
51:54 <Brunius> Er
52:00 <Ballig> what spaceshot
52:05 <Ballig> they have a spell resistance value, like 15
52:06 Oskar is now known as tristen
52:07 <Avatar> I don't really see the advantage to taking vindicator
52:08 <Ballig> you have to roll a caster level check
52:11 <Ballig> d20+caster level
52:16 <Ballig> if you equal or exceed it, the spell can go ahead
52:17 <Avatar> the abilities suck a bit
52:19 <Ballig> if you don't, they resist it
52:19 <Brunius> Ha
52:26 <Brunius> so SR 6 isn't gonna do much?
52:32 <Spaceshot> nope
52:34 <Ballig> probably not
52:39 <Spaceshot> SR 6+level is though
52:45 <Ballig> 6+level would be okay
52:47 <Brunius> Why would it be +level?
52:48 <Ballig> give you a 17 at level 7
52:52 <Ballig> er, level 11
52:53 <Ballig> rather
52:59 <Ballig> some spell resistance is +level
53:03 <Ballig> what's the source of it
53:09 <Brunius> Celestial Template
53:16 <Brunius> For my horse
53:39 <Ballig> is the template in the bestiary
54:10 <Brunius> yes
54:10 <Avatar> did anyone buy potions of fly
54:15 <Avatar> keep in mind I can cast scrolls on you
54:15 <Brunius> I will be
54:20 <Brunius> Probably
54:20 <Spaceshot> no, I'm wearing full plate XD
54:28 <Brunius> Ha I'm wearing full plate to
54:29 <Brunius> o
54:32 <Avatar> possibly not if you need it mid-combat
55:12 <Spaceshot> I'm expecting it to be very combat heavy
55:15 <Avatar> I think I'm going to have a lot of spare feats
55:22 <Spaceshot> since it's a tournament of the best of the best the society has to offer
55:26 <Avatar> I was going to take extra hex a bunch of times, but I'm out of good hexes
55:30 <Ballig> it's SR equal to CR + 11
55:31 <Spaceshot> get weapon focus ray if you must
55:41 <Avatar> I have no rays man
55:49 <Spaceshot> you don't have a hex ray?
55:52 <Brunius> What
55:54 <Ballig> what's your horse's CR, Brunius?
55:55 <Brunius> No it isn't
55:56 <Brunius> 1
55:57 <Spaceshot> can't you get a feat to increase your hex DC?
55:58 <Avatar> there's no hex rays
56:00 <Spaceshot> and then a greater one?
56:06 <Ballig> Defenses/Qualities: It gains darkvision 60 feet; immunity 
56:06 <Ballig> to disease; +4 racial bonus on saves vs. poison; acid, cold, and 
56:06 <Ballig> electricity resist 10; DR 5/magic (if HD 11 or less) or 10/magic 
56:06 <Ballig> (if HD 12 or more); and SR equal to CR + 11 (maximum 35).  
56:09 <Avatar> don't think so
56:11 <Ballig> that's in the half-celestial template
56:21 <Brunius> I've got the celestial template open here
56:32 <Brunius> Rebuild Rules: Senses gains darkvision 60 ft.; Defensive 
56:32 <Brunius> Abilities gains DR and energy resistance as noted on the 
56:32 <Brunius> table; SR gains SR equal to new CR +5; Special Attacks smite 
56:32 <Brunius> evil 1/day as a swift action (adds Cha bonus to attack rolls 
56:32 <Brunius> and damage bonus equal to HD against evil foes; smite 
56:32 <Brunius> persists until target is dead or the celestial creature rests).
56:48 <Ballig> what's that in
57:06 <Brunius> p294
57:09 <Brunius> Bestiary
57:33 <Ballig> that's for summoned celestial creatures
57:37 <Ballig> from Summon Monster spells
57:39 <Ballig> is that what it's meant to use
58:00 <Ballig> that's a /simple/ celestial template
58:03 <Brunius> It just says the celestial template (see bestiary)
58:03 <Ballig> not a half-celestial template
58:25 <Brunius> Should I pay 6000gp for full plate on my horse
58:26 <Ballig> if it says celestial instead of half-celestial, it's probably the simple one you have
58:40 <Ballig> does your horse have armour proficiency heavy
58:45 <Brunius> Good question
58:54 <Brunius> I don't think it has any armour proficiency
59:09 <Ballig> what's the base creature typre
59:11 <Ballig> -r
59:20 <Brunius> ?
59:25 <Ballig> is it a trained warhorse
59:49 <Brunius> It functions as a druids animal companion
59:58 <Ballig> what class is this? paladin?
00:03 <Brunius> yeah
01:31 <Avatar> retribution hex
01:35 <Avatar> if you deal 30 damage to it
01:35 <Brunius> When do druids get feats for their animal companion
01:40 <Avatar> it gets an additional 15 damage dealt to it
01:49 <Avatar> lasts 7 rounds
01:51 <Ballig> yeah
02:19 <Ballig> Brunius: at 11th level, your horse will have 5 feats
02:27 <Ballig> page 52 has the table
02:27 <Brunius> Oh god
02:31 <Brunius> Why didn't I do this earlier
03:15 <Brunius> Ok that's three done
03:15 <Avatar> I think ice tomb hex is even better
03:17 <Ballig> it's 9HD, +6/+1 BAB, 6/6/6 fort/ref/will, 9 skills, 5 feats, +6 natural armour bonus, +3 strength and dex, 4 bonus tricks
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03:25 <Avatar> 3d8 cold damage, fort half
03:30 <Ballig> as well as two ability score increases (just like characters)
03:36 <Ballig> and Multiattack
03:39 <Avatar> if it fails the save, it's unconscious and paralysed
03:42 Khazaran is now known as mort-
03:47 <Ballig> sorry, 6/6/3 not 6/6/6
04:00 <Brunius> jesus
04:05 <mort-> What save
04:10 <Brunius> What's it's HD?
04:12 <Ballig> 9
04:24 <Avatar> even if something frees it from the ice (hardness 20), it's staggered for another 1d4 rounds
04:28 <Avatar> lolllllllllll
04:30 <Ballig> so 40hp I think, off the top of my head
04:34 <Ballig> not counting constitution bonuses
04:39 <Brunius> Man
05:20 <Ballig> do you want it to be a horse
05:22 <Ballig> it doesn't have to be
05:43 <Brunius> 75, I think
05:47 <Brunius> Yeah it'll be a horse
05:49 <Brunius> Just easiest
05:50 <Avatar> brunius you might end up just having to deal with the lower level honkeys
05:53 <Avatar> leave the bosses to me
05:59 <Brunius> Ha
06:00 <Brunius> You wish
06:02 <Ballig> it can be a camel!
06:04 <Ballig> or a boar!
06:08 <Avatar> one ice tomb failed save and they're done !
06:18 <Brunius> It will be a horse Ballig
06:25 <Brunius> I don't have the time for more exotic options
06:30 <Avatar> we can easily finish this module in 2 days this way
06:31 <Ballig> I think it can be a large boar
06:33 <Ballig> that would be crazy
06:37 <Brunius> Although when Bairaq gets this for real it will be a camel
06:43 <Brunius> A camel fits his background better
06:46 <Ballig> is he medium
06:48 <Brunius> yeah
06:49 <Brunius> human
07:21 <Ballig> oh, it can only be a medium boar
07:22 <Ballig> you can't ride that
07:42 <Ballig> also, camel isn't that exotic
07:45 <Ballig> druid has it all marked out
07:52 <Ballig> Camel
07:53 <Ballig> Starting Statistics:  Size Large;  Speed  50 ft.;  AC +1 natural 
07:53 <Ballig> armor;  Attack   bite  (1d4)  or  spit  (ranged  touch  attack, 
07:53 <Ballig> target  is sickened  for  1d4  rounds,  range  10  feet);  Ability 
07:53 <Ballig> Scores St r  18,  Dex  16,  Con  14,  Int  2,  Wis  11,  Cha  4;  Special 
07:53 <Ballig> Qualities low-light vision ,  scen t.
07:53 <Ballig> 4th-Level Advancement :  Ability Scores St r +2, Con +2.
08:05 <Brunius> Dude
08:14 <Brunius> It will be a camel
08:18 <Ballig> page 54
08:22 <Brunius> I'm reading it
08:34 <Ballig> pretty good stats
08:50 <Ballig> and a mount with a ranged attack is nuts
09:02 <Mekkis> <?sickened
09:03 <diebot> The character takes a 2 penalty on all attack rolls, weapon damage rolls, saving throws, skill checks, and ability checks.
09:13 <Avatar> extremely decent
09:57 <Brunius> Shit
09:58 <Ballig> it'll have Str 23, Dex 19, Con 16, Int 6, Wis 11, Cha 4
09:59 <Mekkis> does it affect natural attack damage rolls
10:01 <Ballig> +1 to two of those as you choose
10:05 <Brunius> Str 21 I figured out?
10:15 <Ballig> did you add the 4th level advancement
10:17 <Brunius> Oh, unless you're going off camel
10:21 <Brunius> I'm not taking the goddamn camel man
10:29 <Ballig> what
10:34 <Ballig> [9:07:57 PM] <Brunius> It will be a camel
10:48 <Avatar> what's your alternative?
10:51 <Ballig> horse
10:59 <Ballig> yeah, and then I said it's not exotic
11:02 <Ballig> and you said it will be a camel
11:16 <Brunius> Oh, I thought you were trying to discourage me from taking one
11:21 <Ballig> no
11:23 <Avatar> no, take it take it
11:25 <Ballig> I'm just saying it's already marked out, just like horse
11:26 <Avatar> it is sweet
11:31 <Ballig> so it's not any harder
11:57 <Brunius> Oh shit
12:00 <Ballig> horse has more melee attacks and higher AC
12:06 <Brunius> Paladin only gets it at fourth level
12:07 <Brunius> Man
12:10 <Ballig> 5th isn't it
12:14 <Brunius> Yeah 5th
12:16 <Brunius> my bad
12:21 <Ballig> but it says your druid level is your paladin level
12:22 <Brunius> Maybe I should get bonded weapon
12:24 <Ballig> not your paladin level -5
12:26 <Brunius> Simplify this whole thing
12:38 <Ballig> yeah depends on your character focus
12:43 <Ballig> as a medium character being mounted can be annoying
12:49 <Ballig> and might not be worth it if you dont' plan on using a lance
13:04 <Mekkis> Brunius, it doesn't simplify it
13:15 <Brunius> Yeah I'm not gonna take it man
13:16 <Mekkis> it just adds another (unresolved?) rules question
13:26 <Brunius> Just worked out my horse will have 119HP
13:30 <Brunius> Anyone wanna cross check that?
13:34 <Mekkis> sure
13:38 <Mekkis> I'll build it too
13:40 <Brunius> d8 hd
13:56 <Mekkis> I'll build it and see what I come up with
14:00 <Mekkis> did it take toughness?
14:21 <Mekkis> and what's its name?
14:36 <Brunius> No Toughness
14:37 <Ballig> Brunius: animal companion hp is done at 4.5*HD
14:39 <Brunius> No name, so far
14:43 <Brunius> 4.5*HD?
14:44 <Ballig> yeah
14:47 <Ballig> they don't get full at first level
14:53 <Ballig> it's just 4.5*HD as base HP
14:55 <Brunius> Ah, ok
15:02 <Brunius> 4.5x9?
15:05 <Ballig> yeah
15:08 <Ballig> then add constitution modifier per HD
15:30 <Brunius> ew
15:32 <Brunius> er
15:32 <Brunius> what
15:48 <Brunius> hd is an ambigous term
15:53 <Brunius> (spelling?)
16:07 <Brunius> are we talking d8 d10 etc or level-equivalent HD?
16:16 <Ballig> level-equivalent HD
16:20 <Ballig> 9d8
16:39 <Ballig> so 4.5*9+(con_mod*9)
16:51 <Brunius> ok
17:27 <Ballig> Mekkis: how much int should a level 5 paladin's bonded horse have?
17:42 <Brunius> I think it's 6 minimum
18:30 <Spaceshot> 6min
18:36 <Ballig> I don't want a minimum
18:39 <Ballig> I could have given you a minimum
19:45 <Mekkis> 85 hp
19:51 <Brunius> I got 91
19:56 <Ballig> what's the con mod
20:03 <Mekkis> I'm getting con 20
20:08 <Mekkis> so +5
20:18 <Ballig> yeah that's 85
20:24 <Avatar> I'm starving a bit for decent 4th level spells
20:28 <Brunius> 4.5*9 = 40.5
20:37 <Avatar> is enervation really as sexy as they say
20:40 <Brunius> Then the con
20:41 <Ballig> yes
20:42 <Brunius> Is uh
20:51 <Brunius> 4 for three levels
20:57 <Brunius> and 5 for the rest?
20:58 <Ballig> you re-adjust
21:03 <Brunius> Oh, do you?
21:06 <Ballig> yeah
21:07 <Ballig> same with characters
21:12 <Ballig> if your con raises, you gain hp for every level
21:34 <Brunius> Yaeh 85 then
21:38 <Brunius> Not sure how I got 91 before
21:50 <Ballig> I'm seeing uh
21:51 <Ballig> 21 con?
21:59 <Brunius> (That's what I'm getting, too)
22:03 <Spaceshot> Avatar: do you get any spells that can remove conditions?
22:06 <Spaceshot> those are pretty good
22:18 <Spaceshot> freedom of movement is a good one
22:29 <Ballig> Mekkis: did you find out the int
22:51 <Mekkis> no
23:01 <Avatar> I was looking at neutralise poison
23:02 <Ballig> what int should a level 5 (or 11) paladin's horse have
23:09 <Avatar> what do you think are the odds we'll be poisoned
23:31 <Avatar> I can take most of the remove spells
23:51 <Mekkis> hmmm
23:55 <Mekkis> a heavy horse...
24:18 <Mekkis> Does this mean that you apply the Advanced Simple template to the horse?
24:24 <Mekkis> that would be powerful....
24:27 <Brunius> I believe so
24:27 <Avatar> I can get lightning bolt but not fireball
24:28 <Ballig> youa apply it at level 4
24:39 <Ballig> it's the level 4 advancement
24:59 <Spaceshot> lightning bolt is still useful
25:07 <Spaceshot> a bit less if you're perma flying though
25:19 <Brunius> Oh gods
25:20 <Avatar> I'm not perma flying man
25:22 <Brunius> Half my gold is unspent
25:25 <Mekkis> 103 HP
25:31 <Spaceshot> get freedom of movement :P
25:35 <Brunius> Why?
25:35 <Ballig> where are you getting the extra con?
25:44 <Ballig> I only came up with 21 even after the advanced simple template
25:49 <Avatar> I can't get freedom of movement
25:51 <Mekkis> final statblock 25/17/24/10 or 6/16/10
26:13 <Mekkis> as an animal companion, it gets advancement along that path too
26:23 <Mekkis> +3 str/con
26:30 <Brunius> +2 str/con
26:31 <Brunius> I think
26:39 <Spaceshot> really, what average spell selection
26:44 <Mekkis> hmm
26:46 <Mekkis> oops
26:48 <Mekkis> str/dex
26:52 <Ballig> yeah
26:54 <Ballig> it's 21 con
26:57 <Brunius> str/dex?
27:00 <Mekkis> yeah
27:04 <Ballig> 20 dex
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27:14 <Mekkis> final statblock 25/20/21/10 or 6/16/10
27:16 <Ballig> but the 10 int is what I came up with too
27:20 <Ballig> which seems crazy for a horse
27:36 <Brunius> Someone feel like telling me the final statblock?
27:37 <Mekkis> do you apply the "minimum 6" before or after the +4?
27:48 <Ballig> I'm not certain
27:55 <Ballig> rules as written it seems like you would
27:58 <Spaceshot> google it :P
27:58 <Ballig> rules as interpreted maybe not
28:18 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, I can tell you the answer that googling would yield
28:23 <Mekkis> "Yes."
28:28 <Brunius> It's just the str we're disagreeing about, I think
28:31 <Brunius> and the int
28:36 <Ballig> not the str
28:37 <Ballig> just the int
28:40 <Mekkis> str is 25
28:44 <Brunius> How do you get 25 str?
28:48 <Brunius> I only got 22?
28:58 <Mekkis> +3 from str/dex adjustment
29:09 <Brunius> Where's this str/dex adjustment?
29:09 <Ballig> you get +3 str and +3 dex from the animal companion table
29:16 <Ballig> page 52
29:18 <Brunius> oh
29:21 <Ballig> third last column
29:22 <Brunius> yep yep
29:28 <Ballig> then you get to add +1 to two stats of your choice just as if it were a character
29:39 <Ballig> so it could be 27 str if you wanted
29:45 <Mekkis> here's a question: what's its CR?
29:47 <Ballig> or 26 str and 22 con
29:52 <Brunius> 1, I think
29:59 <Ballig> it's minimum 2
30:03 <Brunius> But the animal companion doesn't have a CR of it's own does it
30:09 <Mekkis> Brunius, correct!
30:18 <Brunius> Wow, go me.
30:24 <Brunius> ./muted
30:27 <Ballig> what if the paladin is dead
30:33 <Ballig> does the horse go back home
30:35 <Mekkis> so your horse has SR <undefined>+5
30:42 <Brunius> ha
30:51 <Brunius> I'll bring that up with ryan
31:11 <Mekkis> actually, <undefined>+6
31:12 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=375
31:26 <Mekkis> (celestial template gives it +1 CR)
31:35 <Spaceshot> I also hope that spiritual ally uses cha for an oracle
31:38 <Ballig> what about advanced simple
31:39 <Ballig> which gives +1
31:41 <Spaceshot> otherwise I'm so ditching that spell
31:48 <Mekkis> oh
31:48 <Mekkis> that
31:51 <Ballig> (which is why i said minimum 2)
31:59 <Mekkis> then it'd be SR <undefined>+7
32:37 <Mekkis> I'm always against CR being on the player's side of the screen
32:43 <Ballig> someone is suggesting its CR is your HD
32:56 <Brunius> Oh crap
33:03 <Brunius> I'm gonna have to justify all this math
33:07 <Brunius> To ryan
33:08 <Brunius> in the email
33:21 <Mekkis> Ballig, yay for "someone"
33:25 <Ballig> yeah
33:30 <Ballig> I'm reading further to see if they can cite a source for this
33:35 <Ballig> or if someone better than "someone" says it
33:42 <Mekkis> I remember in 3.5, you could make a CR3 creature that could kill a level 15 party
33:49 <Avatar> what level is contingency? 6th?
33:52 <Mekkis> yeah
34:06 <Avatar> there's a 4th level witch spell that acts like contingency but triggers only when you're hit by an attach or CM
34:10 <Avatar> attack*
34:17 <Mekkis> nice
34:22 <Avatar> 1 hour/level
34:24 <Avatar> dismissable
34:27 <Mekkis> that's short
34:30 <Brunius> What does everyone have for AC?
34:33 <Avatar> that's 11 hours yo
34:39 <Mekkis> remember Ghandi's Contingent conjuration?
34:39 <Avatar> 12
34:45 <Avatar> 16 with 11 hour mage armour
34:56 <Avatar> nop
35:11 <Avatar> 11 hours isn't short just because you're comparing it to something that goes longer
35:17 <Avatar> 11 hours is plenty long enough
35:40 <Mekkis> the advantage of contingency was that you could cast it the previous day and have the slot free
35:42 <Ballig> yeah the guys in this thread are idiots, they are suggesting a CR 1 horse later
35:47 <Ballig> it's clearly at least CR 2, probably 3
35:58 <Mekkis> here's a question you haven't considered, Avatar...
35:58 <Avatar> ah
36:08 <Mekkis> "How many spells are you going to prepare?"
36:17 <Avatar> all of them
36:18 <Brunius> Ballig, Avatar: I'm getting 26 for AC, what have you got?
36:23 <Avatar> I don't like leaving slots empty
36:38 <Avatar> sorry man I'm busy with my own char
36:48 <Mekkis> Brunius, Oskar11: consider not adventuring with Avatar's charactert
36:51 <Brunius> Er, Ballig, Mekkis, rather
37:03 <Brunius> Why, Mekkis?
37:14 <Avatar> because if I don't like you I might put you in an ice tomb
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37:22 * Avatar snickers
37:41 <Ballig> +12 natural AC, +5 from dex, -1 from large
37:59 <Mekkis> because you'll get to a position where he'll find himself inflexible
38:33 <Avatar> I think you're mistakening me for a wizard
39:21 <Brunius> Man
39:23 <Brunius> I've gotta go
39:28 <Brunius> Hope this is all correct
39:34 <Avatar> gg
39:35 <Ballig> Brunius: don't forget the 10 resist acid, cold and electricity, and the DR 5/evil
39:36 Oskar11 is now known as Oskar
40:08 <Brunius> Duly Noted
40:39 mort- is now known as khazaran
43:47 <Avatar> er
43:53 <Avatar> I can take reincarnate
43:58 <Mekkis> no you can't
44:03 <Avatar> or raise dead
44:05 <Avatar> yes I can
44:09 <Avatar> witch spells
44:16 <Mekkis> no you can't
44:17 <Avatar> is reincarnate PFS-illegal
44:20 <Mekkis> yes, it is
44:29 <Avatar> well raise dead is legal
44:36 <Mekkis> yes, it is
45:01 <Mekkis> planning on carrying 5200gp worth of diamonds?
45:12 <Brunius> Do it.
45:13 <Avatar> YUP
45:14 <Brunius> Do it now.
45:20 <Avatar> everyone bring along a diamond
45:26 <Ballig> ha
45:30 <Avatar> 5000gp 
45:31 <Ballig> everyone bring a 1000 gold diamond
45:34 <Avatar> where is the 200gp coming from
46:19 <Mekkis> restoration
46:27 <Mekkis> I'm assuming you're at least preparing THAT
46:53 <Ballig> yeah otherwise they come back with negative levels
46:55 <Avatar> I don't think I get restoration
47:03 <Avatar> nope
47:09 <Avatar> that'll have to be spaceshot's job
48:35 <Mekkis> oh, that reminds me Brunius: buy your essentials
48:43 <Mekkis> potion of lesser restoration, several
48:56 <Brunius> Man
49:01 <Brunius> DIdn't tell me this before?
49:19 <Brunius> How much is a potion of lesser restoration
49:29 <Avatar> get scrolls for spaceshot
51:28 <Mekkis> 300
51:29 <Mekkis> no
51:33 <Mekkis> don't use scrolls
51:38 <Mekkis> scrolls take three rounds to cast
51:43 <Mekkis> potions are gulped in one
51:49 <Ballig> you want to be able to use lesser restoration in comat
51:50 <Ballig> +b
51:59 <Avatar> scrolls take 3 rounds?
52:01 <Ballig> you don't want to be made redundant for the rest of the combat because you lost strength
52:05 <Ballig> it's a 3 round spell
52:11 <Mekkis> Bairaq could cast lesser restoration: it's level 1 for him
52:18 <Avatar> oh 
52:34 <Brunius> I have 4 level 1s
52:47 <Ballig> you don't want to cast a 3 round spell in combat if you can avoid it
53:17 <Mekkis> or if you're taking ongoing constitution damage from wyvern poison
53:27 <Ballig> stupid wyverns
54:56 <Avatar> Ice Crystal Teleport: Target is frozen, then teleported.
55:02 <Brunius> Level?
55:03 <Brunius> Save?
55:05 <Avatar> some of these spells are hilarious
55:26 <Ballig> how far do you teleport them
55:28 <Brunius> What level is lesser restoration
55:33 <Avatar> as per teleport
55:39 <Ballig> can you teleport them in the air
55:41 <Avatar> 1 mile away to who cares where
55:42 <Brunius> cleric 3?
55:44 <Avatar> sure can
55:47 <Avatar> is it 1 mile
55:55 <Ballig> level 2 cleric, Brunius
56:09 <Ballig> so potions are 300 gold each
56:26 <Brunius> Yeah
56:35 <Ballig> Avatar: is it willing creatures only?
56:36 <Brunius> What else should I have on me?
56:53 <Avatar> it doesn't have range
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56:58 <Avatar> no, it's intended for bad guys
57:00 <Ballig> maybe delay poison?
57:07 <Avatar> teleport is anywhere you know
57:50 <Ballig> regular teleport is willing only
57:53 <Ballig> what book is ice crystal teleport in
58:27 <Ballig> ah UM
58:43 <Avatar> wait maybe it's not meant for bad guys
58:57 <Ballig> it also specifies safe location
59:02 <Ballig> so you can't teleport them a mile into the air
59:36 <Avatar> you could if you've been there before
59:41 <Ballig> it says 'safe location'
00:09 <Avatar> yeah
00:12 <Avatar> what is the purpose of the ice crystal
00:14 <Ballig> unless it can fly, a mile in the air isn't safe
00:22 <Avatar> the whole thing feels redundant?
00:30 <Ballig> yeah not sure exactly
00:39 <Ballig> for some reason it protects you and then delays a teleport?
00:48 <Ballig> not sure why you wouldn't just want to teleport immediately
01:06 <Avatar> teleport is a level 5 spell and seems better
01:59 <Ballig> it might be possible to do it against unwilling creatures
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02:09 <Ballig> it does say "Spell functions like teleport", but then specifically gives you a target of "one creature"
02:23 <Ballig> generally what is in the spell information overrides "functions as <spellname>"
02:30 <Brunius> Hope I got all that right
02:32 <Brunius> Night guys
02:32 <Ballig> and it's only the things that aren't there that you take from <spellname>
02:43 <Ballig> oh
02:46 <Avatar> gg
02:48 <Ballig> Avatar: ice crystal teleport is long range
02:51 <Ballig> teleport is touch
02:59 <Avatar> ahhhh
03:12 <Avatar> so they have 1d4 rounds to get within 400ft of you 
03:16 <Ballig> at level 11 you can teleport someone from 800 feet away
03:17 <Avatar> 400ft+40ft/level
03:24 <Ballig> no
03:29 <Ballig> they can't move in that 1d4 rounds
03:44 <Avatar> so they have 1d4 rounds to break the ice
03:48 <Ballig> no
03:52 <Ballig> the enemy has 1d4 rounds to break the ice
04:11 <Avatar> but it suggests only targetting friendlies with it
04:14 <Ballig> yes
04:18 <Ballig> so say you are casting it on Bobbob
04:23 <Spaceshot> is there a save against it?
04:26 <Ballig> Bobbob is 700 feet away from you and about to die
04:29 <Avatar> yeah there is
04:30 <Ballig> and you are like "SHIT, GET HIM OUT OF THERE"
04:34 <Ballig> you cast ice crystal teleport on him
04:38 <Ballig> he's encased in ice for 1d4 rounds
04:45 <Avatar> if he's 700ft away, I have to be able to see you
04:47 <Ballig> the enemies trying to kill him could potentially break through the ice and ruin the spell
04:51 <Avatar> +1/10ft perception
04:56 <Avatar> DC 70
05:02 <Ballig> er
05:04 <Spaceshot> I still think those rules for sight are stupid
05:09 <Ballig> there's no DC on seeing someone when you know they're there
05:17 <Avatar> are you sure
05:21 <Ballig> yeah man
05:30 <Mekkis> what's the DC for seeing someone who isn't hiding?
05:34 <Spaceshot> I know that the 100m sprinter is there sprinting
05:40 <Ballig> you don't throw perception checks mid combat to know if you see your opponent before shooting at them
05:41 <Spaceshot> I don't exactly notice his tatoo though
06:02 <Avatar> the DCs are usually too low to bother with
06:08 <Ballig> that's not true
06:09 <Avatar> but at long distance they're not
06:30 <Ballig> even at 100 feet, which is the range increment of a longbow and easily available in a lot of outdoor encounters, the DC is at least 10 according to your rules
06:36 <Ballig> someone without skill ranks in perception would fail that 50% of the time
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06:44 <Ballig> perception is about what you notice
06:48 <Ballig> not about how good your eyesight is
06:52 <Avatar> might ask about that one
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07:01 <Brunius> <Brunius> It will be a horse Ballig
07:08 <Brunius> <Brunius> I don't have the time for more exotic options
07:15 <Ballig> it's about whether you see that halfling come out of the bushes before he attacks you (and makes his presence obvious), not about taking an eye test at the RTA
07:20 <Brunius> <Brunius> Although when Bairaq gets this for real it will be a camel
07:27 <Brunius> <Brunius> A camel fits his background better
07:46 <Ballig> sure, if it's whether you see that halfling come out of the bushes 700 feet away then go ahead and raise the DC according to the distance
08:07 <Ballig> but once he's no longer hiding and he's shooting you in the face, you know where he is
08:14 <Ballig> and the game doesn't try and force bad eyesight onto you
08:35 <Mekkis> it does: there's an oracle's curse as such
08:47 <Ballig> that's a character choice
08:51 <Ballig> the game doesn't force it on you :p
09:11 <Ballig> unless you count the blind condition
09:20 <Avatar> not having perception is a character choice man
09:21 <Spaceshot> blurred vision is different to a normal person
09:31 <Ballig> perception isn't how good your eyesight is, Avatar
09:36 <Ballig> it's about noticing the things around you
09:46 <Spaceshot> Avatar: not having perception means you require glasses and aren't legally allowed to drive because you can't see the car infront of you
09:55 <Ballig> it's about how aware you are of your surroundings
10:18 <Avatar> but that's the same thing
10:22 <Ballig> no
10:23 <Ballig> it's really not
10:34 <Avatar> well I'll ask and see on the weekend
10:35 <Ballig> let's take it from a game rules perspective
10:48 <Ballig> there would be no use having long range spells that can be cast at a distance of 400ft+40ft/level
10:56 <Ballig> if it required a perception check in the high dozens to do that
12:18 <Avatar> spells that have range long don't really require targets like that
12:26 <Ballig> er
12:31 <Ballig> what do you mean "like that"?
12:32 <Avatar> acid arrow is an exception, but you can take range increments on that
12:43 <Ballig> are you saying that all long range spells are AOE?
12:50 <Avatar> yeah
13:15 <Ballig> chain lightning
13:25 <Avatar> some are divinations
13:52 <Ballig> faerie fire
14:09 <Ballig> a very small AOE that would require you to see creatures there before you bothered castng it
14:17 <Spaceshot> avatar, what's the point of a longbow having 100ft range increments if he has to make a DC 10check per increment?
14:37 <Ballig> horrid wilting
14:52 <Ballig> mass invisibility
15:00 <Avatar> horrid wilting and mass invis are aoe
15:03 <Ballig> no they aren't
15:05 <Ballig> check the target
15:18 <Ballig> they are multiple target, they are not AOE
15:24 <Avatar> they affect "creatures"
15:25 <Ballig> pyrotechnics
15:28 <Avatar> same with chain lightning
15:31 <Ballig> yes, so does teleport
15:40 <Avatar> does that mean the furtherest creature can be no more than long range?
15:51 <Ballig> right
16:17 <Avatar> and closer creatures can be closer
16:18 <Ballig> telekinesis
16:31 <Ballig> veil
16:47 <Ballig> those are just the spells in the core rulebook that have a long range but aren't AOE
16:49 * Mort- ears flatten at all the forbidden magics
16:57 <Ballig> because they target a single (or multiple) creatures, just like ice crystal teleport
16:58 * Mort- visibly winces
17:16 <Avatar> that means when it moves outside of range, the spell no longer works
17:25 <Avatar> for veil and telekinesis and some of those others
17:49 <Ballig> unless it says "creature touched", or the spell description specifically says so, then it can be targeted from that distance too
18:00 <Avatar> sure, if you can see it
18:05 <Ballig> yep, if you have LOS
18:10 <Ballig> not if you make a DC 70 perception check
18:25 <Ballig> the perception skill never says "you need to make a check if you are trying to see a creature in the distance"
18:36 <Avatar> that's probably right with spells
18:49 <Ballig> it gives you a set of guidelines about what kind of things will trigger a perception check, and then gives you guidelines for what kind of penalties you might give if that SOURCE meets a certain criterion
18:54 <Ballig> for example, +1 DC/10 feet
19:40 <Ballig> keep in mind that 700 feet is 200 metres away
19:44 <Ballig> I can see you 200 metres down the street easily
19:55 <Ballig> now, if you were in a crowd, I might need a perception check to spot which one was you
20:02 <Ballig> and it would be very hard at 200 metres
21:17 <Avatar> you might be right
21:37 <Avatar> is there anything good you can make with major creation
21:45 <Ballig> an anvil above someone's head?
21:54 <Spaceshot> I don't believe you can even take major creation in pfs
21:56 <Avatar> that's not funny
22:38 <Ballig> what
22:40 <Avatar> Spaceshot: are you prepping restoration
22:43 <Avatar> and bringing along a 5000gp diamond
22:45 <Ballig> you could create an anvil made of iron 50 feet above someone's head
22:56 <Avatar> yeah with 10 minutes notice
23:11 <Avatar> actually you can hold spells can't you
23:12 <Ballig> you don't think people can keep the enemy off youf or 100 rounds?
23:14 <Avatar> maybe it is possible
23:29 <Spaceshot> restortation no, lesser sure
23:38 <Avatar> no we need restoration
23:40 <Spaceshot> because FUCK AM I BRINGING 5GP OF DIAMONDS
23:46 <Spaceshot> 5kGP
23:56 <Avatar> I can raise dead
24:07 <Spaceshot> so can I, it's called breath of life
24:08 <Avatar> 5000gp M component though
24:18 <Spaceshot> breath of life has none
24:23 <Avatar> hmm
24:26 <Avatar> what if you die
25:15 <Spaceshot> I'm fucked either way?
25:27 <Avatar> well not if you have a diamond
25:39 <Spaceshot> why don't you get a diamond
25:48 <Avatar> well you have breath of life
25:58 <Spaceshot> that's no excuse
26:09 <Avatar> seems like the perfect excuse
26:31 <Spaceshot> I don't require a diamond to cast my spell
26:34 <Avatar> we should work out a resurrection plan
26:35 <Spaceshot> thus I don't require one
27:07 <Avatar> the only time we should need a diamond is to res you, but it's obviously not fair to make you pay for it
27:24 <Spaceshot> in that theory, you should pay for me to heal you guys
27:45 <Spaceshot> how about you pay me every time I resurrect you
27:46 <Avatar> you can't sell services as a pathfinder
27:51 <Avatar> nice try though
27:53 <Spaceshot> boohoo
27:58 <Spaceshot> then I'll just stay dead then
28:02 <Spaceshot>  the healbot will stay dead
28:11 <Avatar> you're going to make your will save are you
28:31 <Spaceshot> will save for what?
28:37 <Avatar> to resist being raised
28:42 <Avatar> I haven't actually taken any cure spells
28:44 <Avatar> I should do that
28:46 <Mekkis> restoration doesn't require 5000gp
28:57 <Avatar> no, raise dead does
29:10 <Spaceshot> breath of life is free
29:13 <Mekkis> you're optimistic
29:17 <Spaceshot> XD
29:28 <Mekkis> you think that when you die, your body will be largely intact!
29:40 <Avatar> is it not?
29:51 <Spaceshot> it doesn't have to be largely intact, it just has to be ressurectable :P
29:51 <Mekkis> depends how you die
29:55 <Spaceshot> intact or not :P
30:02 <Mekkis> raise dead, it needs to be largely intact
30:08 <Mekkis> resurrection doesn't
30:12 <Spaceshot> oh raise dead, I thought you mean breath of life
30:41 <Avatar> are you guys going to want me to cast fly on you
30:53 <Avatar> I don't really want to take it
31:54 <Mort-> Please prepare for it
32:01 <Spaceshot> breath of life is awesome
32:08 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, Brunius, tristen: Yeah: when it comes to Avatar playing a full-progression spellcaster, he's awfully selfish
32:09 <Spaceshot> you only gain a temp negative level for 1 day
32:18 <Spaceshot> I bet you he is
32:19 * Mekkis remembers SOTO
32:30 <Avatar> Mekkis: yeah, that's why I'm asking 
32:36 <Avatar> because I'm selfish
32:41 <Spaceshot> think of others
32:47 <Mort-> Always.
32:57 * Mort- lays her paws down
32:58 <Spaceshot> also think of see invisibility for others (if you can cast it on others)
33:21 <Avatar> see invis is scroll-able
33:22 <Mort-> My magus would use see invisibility
33:30 <Avatar> so's fly, come to think of it
33:35 <Mekkis> see invisibility on self. Glitterdust or faerie fire afterwards
33:40 <Mort-> Then dancing lights the bad guy
33:44 <Mekkis> or failing that, dancing lights
34:09 <Spaceshot> is the +stat belt a enhancement bonus?
34:23 <Mekkis> yes
34:43 <Spaceshot> bah
34:50 <Spaceshot> can't hit 22str with bull's strength then
40:52 <Avatar> forgot I don't have a headband yet
41:01 <Avatar> my DC for these hexes is probably going to be 24
41:35 <Spaceshot> haha nice
41:56 <Spaceshot> you do realise hex DC is 1/2 witch level + stat right
41:59 <Spaceshot> not witch level + stat
42:06 <Avatar> yeah
42:12 <Avatar> 10 + 5 + 7 atm
42:18 <Spaceshot> nice nice
42:20 <Avatar> with a headband that 7 changes to a 9 I think
42:42 <Spaceshot> 26 is +8
42:50 <Spaceshot> 24 is +7
43:16 <Avatar> oh, woops
44:25 <Avatar> can take stone to flesh
44:29 <Avatar> do you think we'll be petrified
44:56 <Mort-> Id say scroll that
45:34 <Avatar> it's 6th level
46:19 <Spaceshot> can't freedom of movement fix that?
46:27 <Spaceshot> and no, I doubt we'll be petrified
47:18 <Spaceshot> also, unless we're facing undead (or outsiders with the allowance of channeling alignment smite) channel smite is going to be a useless feat
47:26 <Spaceshot> which I doubt I'll use to smack people up the face
48:48 <Avatar> hmmm
48:52 <Avatar> does a broom of flying count as a mount
49:10 <Spaceshot> maybe, but doubt it
49:18 <Avatar> seems to
49:33 <Avatar> it refers to the person using it as a "rider"
51:06 <Spaceshot> should I use a 1 handed weapon and a shield, or a 2 handed weapon?
51:36 <Avatar> what's your AC
51:41 <Avatar> without a shield
52:32 <Spaceshot> my AC will likely be 21 without a shield
52:48 <Spaceshot> and anywhere from 22-25 depending on what shield I take
53:36 <Spaceshot> thinking of a 2 handed weapon with a magical buckler, hmm...
53:48 <Spaceshot> if I attack the buckler AC get's negated though, so maybe only a bland +1 buckler
54:45 <Avatar> hey, headbands don't take up the head slot
55:25 <Spaceshot> really?
55:30 <Mekkis> they take up the headband slot
55:45 <Avatar> yeah there is a separate slot for headbands
55:53 <Spaceshot> haha
56:57 <Avatar> ring of evasion or protection?
57:34 <Spaceshot> what's your AC and reflex save?
57:38 <Avatar> I'm really bothered by this feather fall thing, how long does that spell usually last
57:43 <Avatar> my reflex save is shit
57:45 <Avatar> +5
57:50 <Avatar> my AC is also shit, 12
57:56 <Avatar> or 16 with mage armor
58:03 <Spaceshot> get a cloak of resistance
58:06 <Spaceshot> will save you so much more
58:09 <Spaceshot> than either of the other 2
58:33 <Avatar> feather fall lasts 1 round/level
58:46 <Avatar> casting time is 1 immediate action
59:14 <Avatar> but need to be conscious, right
59:31 <Avatar> although not if you cast it pre-fight
00:42 <Spaceshot> +2 keen falchon I go :P
02:02 <Avatar> I can't afford evasion anyway
02:24 <Spaceshot> is double 18-20 15-20?
02:56 <Avatar> yeah
03:04 <Avatar> 18-20 is 3 numbers, 15-20 is 6 numbers
03:09 <Avatar> very potent to put keen on that
03:30 <Spaceshot> yep, keening up my falchion
03:46 <Spaceshot> only 2d4+8damage (haven't touched feats yet)
03:49 <Spaceshot> for damage anyway
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04:55 <Spaceshot> hmm... powerattack would add 9damage to that
06:54 <Avatar> erg
06:56 <Avatar> do I need a rod
07:22 <Spaceshot> it can be useful
07:45 <Spaceshot> 1 feat to go
08:22 <Avatar> lesser persistent is only 3000gp
10:36 <Avatar> do you want to get a teamwork feat
10:41 <Spaceshot> maybe
10:41 <Spaceshot> haha
10:43 <Avatar> I'm looking at allied spellcaster
10:45 <Spaceshot> I do have a spare feat
10:47 <Avatar> +2 spell penetration
10:49 <Spaceshot> what book?
10:52 <Avatar> when we're adjacent
10:54 <Avatar> APG
11:10 <Avatar> I still have a 9th level feat to choose
11:33 <Spaceshot> I have my 11th :P
11:37 <Avatar> wow, arcane shield is better than arcane blast
11:38 <Spaceshot> I don't really know what to pick
12:04 <Avatar> immediate action, convert any spell to add that spell level to your AC
12:10 <Spaceshot> only for 1 round though
12:14 <Spaceshot> and your ac is shit anyway
12:16 <Avatar> only needs to be 1 round
12:18 <Avatar> stops you being hit
12:32 <Avatar> oh, he almost missed you by 1? drop a 1st level scroll, he misses !
12:38 <Avatar> spell*
13:03 <Spaceshot> Accursed hex?
13:18 <Spaceshot> allows you to target a creature a second time a day if they save the first time
13:29 <Mekkis> that gets boring fast
13:31 <Mekkis> just saying
13:37 <Spaceshot> you don't get to add the deflection after he rolls
13:40 <Spaceshot> that's just stupid
14:20 <Spaceshot> wow Divine Interference from UM looks fucking awesome
14:23 <Avatar> what? yes you do
14:24 <Spaceshot> beats your shield
14:25 <Avatar> immediate action
14:34 <Avatar> not accursed hex, arcane shield
14:43 <Spaceshot> you don't get to change your AC after he's rolled
14:50 <Spaceshot> but before it's compared
14:51 <Spaceshot> that's just stupid
14:53 <Avatar> what do you think immediate action means
15:09 <Spaceshot> it's an action you can do in another players turn
15:19 <Spaceshot> not just IMMEDIATELY AFTER ANYTHING
15:21 <Avatar> or a bad guy's turn
15:28 <Spaceshot> yes, in their turn if they target you
15:31 <Spaceshot> not if they would hit you just
15:42 <Spaceshot> and then magically don't hit you, even though they actually did hit you
15:55 <Avatar> I think you're wrong on that one chief
16:10 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: want to enlighten us?
16:19 <Mekkis> depends
16:41 <Mekkis> will you dismiss my input as irrelevant?
16:44 <Spaceshot> if they roll the dice, can you change what they are comparing it to after the total number is calculated?
16:50 <Avatar> of course not
16:53 <Mekkis> ok
16:54 <Avatar> what's your opinion
17:35 <Mekkis> Immediate action is something that SHOULD be performed after an action is announced, but before it is resolved
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17:43 <Mekkis> like instants in Magic
17:47 <Spaceshot> yep
18:00 <Mekkis> Of course, RPGs aren't magic, so you should just do it as soon as possible
18:10 <Spaceshot> I bet RAW it doesn't state specifically that
18:13 <Avatar> what if an action isn't announced
18:15 <Spaceshot> but I bet that's how GMs will play it
18:18 <Avatar> like if the dice is rolled first
18:35 <Mekkis> then you say "wait!"
18:47 <Spaceshot> and they disregard that result
18:55 <Mekkis> or they don't
19:03 <Spaceshot> depending on how long it took you to say wait
19:04 <Mekkis> and in the future they'll pause
19:18 <Mekkis> if you took too long, they might just say "too bad"
19:20 <Spaceshot> if they just jumped the gun and rolled the dice, they might disregard it
19:23 <Spaceshot> yea that too
19:32 <Mekkis> it's especially with something like "I take cover behind my mount"
20:01 <Avatar> it's usually left up to chance a bit isn't it
20:37 <Mekkis> "What's your AC?" "I'm taking cover behind my mount, so it's $AC +4"
20:38 <Spaceshot> holy vindicator Ava here I come
21:11 <Mekkis> I'm running an EL12 encounter, anyone want to join?
21:17 <Avatar> my expensive gear comes to 67500gp
21:26 <Avatar> I'm going to bed after this
21:28 <Spaceshot> at this moment I'm going to be bailing in a few mins
21:34 <Spaceshot> yea, need to get my character done
21:41 <Avatar> I'm not really nearly done :|
21:42 <Spaceshot> Ava is already taking way too long
21:56 <Spaceshot> I'll need to double check her at school just to make sure she's good
22:34 <Spaceshot> I'm just thinking what should I take for the last 9k
22:43 <Spaceshot> more utility gear or equipment?
22:47 <Spaceshot> utility items*
27:26 <Avatar> boots of springing and striding maybe
27:33 <Avatar> +10ft speed and +5 to jump
27:41 <Avatar> 5500gp if I recall correctly
29:04 <Avatar> I could ditch this broom and give myself a spare 17000gp
31:18 <Spaceshot> I've got 4852gp left
31:24 <Spaceshot> and I'm currently just spamming scrolls :P
31:49 <Avatar> I haven't bought any scrolls yet
31:51 <Avatar> big mistake
31:53 <Avatar> and still no rod !
31:56 <Spaceshot> haha
32:00 <Spaceshot> do you have UMD?
32:10 <Spaceshot> I could get you a breath of life scroll or 2
32:18 <Avatar> I can get UMD
32:21 <Spaceshot> could come in handy if I get dead
32:28 <Spaceshot> UMD is really useful
33:19 <Avatar> yeah okay get that
33:23 <Avatar> I'll chuck ranks in
34:15 <Spaceshot> to use breath of life, you'll need to max it
34:29 <Spaceshot> how long do scrolls take to cast?
34:34 <Avatar> actually what's the DC
34:39 <Avatar> scrolls are a bitch with UMD
34:46 <Avatar> my UMD won't be that high
34:53 <Avatar> it'll be uh
35:04 <Avatar> 16
35:51 <Spaceshot> bah, never mind breath of life is too slow for you to use without knowing it
35:58 <Spaceshot> because it has to be within the last round
35:59 <Spaceshot> :P
36:40 <Spaceshot> shield is shield bonus right?
36:49 <Spaceshot> so I can have armour, deflection and shield right?
38:42 <Spaceshot> oskar should get some arrows of mass destruction
39:11 <Avatar> yeah
39:14 <Avatar> and dodge bonus
39:35 <Avatar> er, breath of life only works within the last round?
39:38 <Avatar> so we do need diamonds
40:00 <Spaceshot> who's we?
40:02 <Spaceshot> I don't
40:50 <Avatar> you sure do
40:54 <Avatar> how do you expect to be ressed
41:25 <Spaceshot> not my issue
47:51 <Avatar> how is you being ressed not your issue
48:22 <Spaceshot> well firstly, I don't even have raise dead spell
48:31 <Avatar> right, you have to rely on mine
48:37 <Spaceshot> secondly, what if you die and I can't get you to in 1 round?
48:46 <Avatar> then i'm dead
48:54 <Avatar> I don't get any other option
49:00 <Spaceshot> so why don't you buy a scroll of raise dead?
49:07 <Avatar> can you use that
49:18 <Spaceshot> oh right, arcane
49:38 <Spaceshot> wait... are scrolls still broken up to arcane or divine?
49:46 <Spaceshot> I think you'll have to buy it as a cleric spell
49:52 <Spaceshot> since there is no witch list
50:02 <Spaceshot> I have no idea
50:35 <Spaceshot> yea breath of life is touch
50:41 <Avatar> no
50:42 <Spaceshot> and I'm not using a reach rod anymore
50:56 <Avatar> raise dead is both arcane and divine
51:15 <Spaceshot> either way, I've got UMD +17
51:25 <Spaceshot> so I should be fine if I can naturally cast it or not
51:50 <Spaceshot> I can possibly buy the scroll too (which I should
51:55 <Spaceshot> but I need to move some stuff around
52:08 <Spaceshot> I've got 3 restortation scrolls for temp neg levels and 1 for real neg levels
52:15 <Spaceshot> I could possibly remove that to get the scroll :P
52:19 <Spaceshot> well remove 1
52:40 <Avatar> it's 6650gp for a scroll I think
52:44 <Avatar> not considering restoration
52:58 <Spaceshot> well I've got lesser restortation already
53:11 <Avatar> need restoration with raise dead
53:17 <Spaceshot> but I've got 3 restoration scrolls for my breath of lifes (since they give a temp negative for a day)
53:23 <Avatar> I don't think I need this broom
53:28 <Avatar> it's suffocating me
53:37 <Spaceshot> yea I doubt you do
53:44 <Avatar> I can fly 11 minutes per day
53:51 <Avatar> 1 minute increments
55:14 <Spaceshot> that should be plenty
55:17 <Spaceshot> seriously
55:35 <Avatar> yeah
55:39 <Avatar> +17000gp
55:42 <Avatar> I can breathe again
55:50 <Spaceshot> nah, raise dead is only 6125gp
55:59 <Spaceshot> dude why don't you just buy 2 of the scrolls?
56:02 <Spaceshot> you've got heaps of cash
56:10 <Spaceshot> you don't have to buy armour and weapons
56:11 <Avatar> I am not done buying gear yet
56:26 <Spaceshot> I've spent 25k+ on weapons and armour
56:46 <Spaceshot> I'm even tempting to lower my headband to a +2
57:09 <Spaceshot> since I don't really need a DC
57:16 <Avatar> my max AC is 21
57:21 <Spaceshot> and it only looses me 1 channel
59:04 <Spaceshot> time to get me some spell resistance on my fullplate
59:31 <Spaceshot> maybe not :P
01:33 <Spaceshot> ok, I'm good
01:40 <Spaceshot> got 800~gp left
01:55 <Spaceshot> took a rod of reach in the long run, just because I'll need to use it to breath of life at a distance
04:06 <Spaceshot> ok I'm good :P
05:15 <Avatar> bizarrely, fly isn't a class skill for a witch
05:24 <Avatar> oh wait yes it is
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06:56 <Spaceshot> ok, I'm done
07:01 <Spaceshot> way way way over timed
07:02 <Spaceshot> cya
08:27 <Avatar> gg
08:33 <Avatar> fuck I still have this last feat to choose
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27:07 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8 will
27:07 <diebot> Mort-, will: [1d20=17] 25
27:16 <Mort-> !throw 2#1d20+8 will
27:16 <diebot> Mort-, will: [1d20=1] 9, [1d20=10] 18
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41:05 <Mekkis> my character has a light load of 0.75lb
41:30 <Avatar> how
41:38 <Avatar> str score of 1 is 3lb
41:48 <Mekkis> not if you're smaller
42:01 <Avatar> isn't that 3/4
42:15 <Avatar> 2.25lb
42:33 <Mekkis> keep shrinking!
42:43 <Avatar> what did you do to yourself
42:49 <Avatar> no guessing games !
42:59 <Mekkis> made myself diminutive
43:14 <Avatar> how
43:49 <Mekkis> still working on that
44:11 <Avatar> pretty sure you need that part known first :P
45:15 <Mekkis> beast shape into something tiny
45:18 <Mekkis> then reduce
45:55 <Mort-> first thing Id say is reduce person.
46:01 <Mort-> from a small character
46:55 <Mekkis> don't worry
46:58 <Mekkis> it's not happening yet
47:47 <Mort-> maybe if you double reduce u get tiny? :D
52:38 <Mekkis> I suppose I should get muleback cords
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