// #d&d — 2012-05-01
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00:08:01 paul_banks is now known as paulbanks
00:45:11 <Mort-> Night everyone!
00:45:42 <Mort-> Oh mek is evil because he threatened not to let me play at his table unless i roll a gnome pally
00:45:58 <Avatar> haha
00:47:40 <Hydrazine> lol.
00:49:08 <Hydrazine> So does int alone give languages or do you need linguistics? I'm confused.
00:49:20 <Mekkis> both
00:49:28 <Mekkis> int gives you bonus languages from your race
00:49:38 <Mekkis> linguistics gives you additional languages
00:51:06 <Hydrazine> So jerus should have atleast one more language.
00:53:23 <Avatar> there's another important difference
00:53:35 <Avatar> languages you can get from int can include modern but not ancient golarion languages
00:53:49 <Avatar> languages you can get from linguistics can include any language, including ancient languages
00:57:20 <Hydrazine> Thank you.
00:57:31 <Hydrazine> my witch will have several!
01:00:57 <matt> hey Hydra - should I bring a ninja or a cleric for the game I have both atm
01:01:34 <Hydrazine> hell if I know.
01:01:39 <Avatar> decide when the game starts
01:01:41 <Hydrazine> Don't know what else we'll have,.
01:01:45 <Avatar> see what everyone else has and what feels appropriate
01:03:01 <matt> ya, that's true.
01:03:31 <matt> I might have a friend playing. going to talk to him tonight about it. he has 3 or 4 pfs char
01:04:15 <Hydrazine> cool.
01:04:19 <Hydrazine> I'm making a new one.
01:09:09 <Hydrazine> but are you playing a ninja like a ninja or a ninja like darkwhite?
01:10:19 <Hydrazine> half orc ninja with a falchion. It has essences of barbarian with key overtones of sneak attack.
01:10:20 <matt> 1/2 orc ninja, great axe and toothy :D
01:10:34 <Hydrazine> sweet
01:10:54 <matt> ya, so the bite attack with be +0 though, assuming I'm flanking
01:11:12 <matt> xigg fleshbitter Grrrrr
01:14:18 <matt> other is a cleric, again a 1/2orc....more of a zealot - battle cleric, falcion, power attack...
01:18:16 <matt> at 3rd level I'll take heavy armour use...
01:18:29 <matt> get myself some full plate...
01:18:36 <Hydrazine> If you can afford it
01:19:01 <Hydrazine> Make sure you get it masterwork
01:19:35 <matt> I think I'm going to be a move 20....give me time to bless as I close
01:20:26 <matt> I know move 20" sucks....I'm still thinking about it.
01:20:39 <matt> I could take a level of barbarian.....
01:21:05 <matt> but then I can't do heavy armour,,,,
01:24:11 <Hydrazine> could take 7 levels of fighter.. but then you're more just a fighter.
01:31:56 <matt> I really want the benifit of having a cleric for the first levels to help everyone live.
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04:45:56 <Steven> sup
04:46:04 <Steven> i slept an amazing 4hours
05:00:06 <Hydrazine> why?
05:04:11 <Avatar> to sleep another 4 later
05:04:15 <Avatar> best way to do it
05:04:24 <Steven> someone, im not going to say who put an elbow right in my ribs
05:04:44 <Steven> and it was just painful enough to rouse me
05:04:47 <Hydrazine> Avatar, you sleep like an asshole huh?
05:04:50 <Avatar> did you elbow yourself in the ribs lol
05:05:01 <Avatar> what do you mean sleep like an asshole
05:05:10 <Hydrazine> elbowing Steve all night
05:05:17 <Avatar> cmon
05:05:17 <Steven> yes, yes he does...
05:05:20 <Hydrazine> I know its you.
05:05:22 * Steven cries
05:06:27 <Steven> Chord of Shards seems pretty bad ass
05:06:34 <Steven> during a bardic performance
05:06:54 <Steven> i can make a 15ft cone for 2d6 piercing amage
05:07:06 <Steven> damage
05:07:16 <Steven> that seems decent for a first level spell
05:21:17 <Avatar> seems overpowered
05:21:22 <Avatar> is there a catch
05:23:21 <Steven> Chord of Shards
05:23:22 <Steven> School evocation; Level bard 1
05:23:22 <Steven> CASTING
05:23:22 <Steven> Casting Time 1 standard action
05:23:22 <Steven> Components V, S
05:23:22 <Steven> EFFECT
05:23:24 <Steven> Range 15 ft.
05:23:26 <Steven> Area cone-shaped burst
05:23:28 <Steven> Duration instantaneous
05:23:30 <Steven> Saving Throw Reflex negates; Spell resistance no
05:23:55 <Steven> DESCRIPTION
05:23:55 <Steven> During your bardic performance, you can strike a chord whose notes transform into a shower of razor sharp, crystalline shards. The shards deal 2d6 points of piercing damage to all creatures caught in the area of effect.
05:24:41 <Steven> totally picking up that spell
05:25:43 <Steven> and im thinking Invigorate
05:26:10 <Steven> This spell banishes feelings of weariness. For the duration, the subject takes no penalties from the fatigued or exhausted conditions. The effect of invigorate is merely an illusion, however, not a substitute for actual rest or respite. When the spell ends, the subject takes 1d6 points of nonlethal damage, along with the return of the original condition(s). A creature can be under the effects of only one invigorate spell at a time; if it is cast
05:26:10 <Steven> a second time on that creature, the first immediately ends.
05:26:22 <Steven> 10minutes/level
05:32:23 <Steven> hmmmmmmmm +3 uses of performance seem pretty OP for a trait
05:41:59 <Steven> ok.
05:42:01 <Steven> so....
05:42:14 <Steven> 17 rounds bardic performace level 1 seems decent right?
05:54:56 <Avatar> how are you getting 17
06:07:11 <Avatar> I really hate how scenarios will have the same DC skill check required in either low or high tier
06:07:27 <Steven> 4 base 4 ability 6 extra performance 3 trait
06:07:39 <Steven> imma be one singing bastard lol
06:12:13 <Steven> I think im going to use a Spiked Chain for this bard
06:13:12 <Steven> or a whip
06:14:00 <Avatar> I'm using a whip for mine, if I ever get to play him
06:14:22 <Steven> nevermind, im going to use a Scorpion whip
06:14:23 <Avatar> archaeologist, though
06:14:53 <Steven> so im down to 11 performances a day
06:17:12 <Steven> Scavenger: Some Half-orcs eke out a leaving picking over the garbage heaps of society, and must learn to separate rare finds from the inevitable dross. Half-orcs with this racial trait receive a +2 racial bonus on Appraise checks and on Perception checks to find hidden objects (including traps and secret doors), determine if food is spoiled, or identify a potion by taste. This racial trait replaces the intimidating racial trait.
06:17:31 <Steven> needlessly complex perception bonus
06:17:33 <Steven> yay
06:17:54 <Avatar> I hate traits that do that kind of thing
06:18:14 <Avatar> too difficult to track
06:18:18 <Steven> Its an alternate racial
06:18:27 <Avatar> your GM will ask for a perception check and you won't know why until it's too late
06:18:37 <Steven> but its better then +2 to intimidate
06:18:38 <Avatar> yeah, anything really
06:19:27 <Avatar> every time you're asked to roll perception, you'll have to tell the GM +2 to find traps and secret doors
06:20:47 <Steven> not just traps and doors, even while searching midden heaps or piles of dead bodies
06:20:53 <Steven> because they are technically hidden objects
06:21:10 <Avatar> yeah
06:21:25 <Steven> Percept 10 and +2 to find hidden objects
06:21:39 <Steven> i suppose technically traps would also be included in that
06:21:42 <Avatar> if it opens up your thinking to a metagaming mindset, it's an even bigger problem
06:22:15 <Steven> but i doubt ill be bogging down games with it
06:22:33 <Steven> i just really wanted apraise as i think its mor useful then +2 intimidate when i have a 4 cha mod
07:04:00 <Steven> at third level im so going two weapon fighting lol
07:40:06 * matt wants to push some customers down the stairs
08:02:32 <Hydrazine> Do it!
08:10:42 <matt> haha....
08:10:55 <matt> you still working on your witch?
08:22:06 <Mort-> No!
08:22:09 <Mort-> Evul
08:22:37 <Mort-> You know some people keep saying I'm a pally in making?
08:34:01 <Hydrazine> yeah.
08:37:51 <Mort-> It isnt true is it?
08:37:56 <Hydrazine> yes
08:38:04 <Hydrazine> yeah, i'm working on my witch.
08:38:07 <Hydrazine> rather slowly though.
08:38:22 <Mort-> Theres time
08:38:42 <Hydrazine> no armor and crappy melee scares me.
08:38:46 <Hydrazine> atleast i can shoot a bow?
08:39:03 <Mort-> Mage armor
08:39:21 <Mort-> Actually if we can time it right
08:39:23 <Hydrazine> i get like 2 level 1 spells a day.
08:39:36 <Mort-> Get sleep b4 foryune
08:39:53 <Mort-> Fortune is once every 24h
08:40:25 <Mort-> But until 2 or so its all in timing
08:40:44 <Mort-> Ideally reach would help and i don't mind temporarily getting it
08:45:59 <Mort-> Identify
08:46:16 <Mort-> Bet lag monster ate me
08:46:26 <Mort-> !throw 1d4+4
08:46:26 <diebot> Mort-, 1d4+4: [1d4=4] 8
08:46:50 <Mort-> !throw 2#1d4+4
08:46:50 <diebot> Mort-, 2#1d4+4: [1d4=2] 6, [1d4=2] 6
08:47:01 <Mort-> Why doesn't pm work argh
08:47:20 <Mort-> I don't want to spam the channel
08:48:34 <Hydrazine> try it @mort?
08:49:04 <Hydrazine> !throw 10#1d4+4 @Mort-
08:49:32 <Mort-> Im trying to talk to dice bot
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10:23:05 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20+4 @#d&d,Mort-
10:23:05 <diebot> MekkisScreen: 1d20+4: [1d20=3] 7
10:24:00 <MekkisScreen> IDENTIFY
10:24:16 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20+4 @#d&d,Mort-,MekkisScreen
10:24:16 <diebot> MekkisScreen: 1d20+4: [1d20=9] 13
10:24:45 <Hydrazine> !throw 1d20+4 @ Mort-,Hydrazine
10:26:28 <Mort-> Now it works
10:29:50 <MekkisScreen> sometimes you need to force an IDENTIFY
10:30:17 <Mort-> I said identify
10:30:18 <Mort-> Earlier
10:30:37 <MekkisScreen> in capitals?
10:31:36 <Mort-> No
10:31:38 <Mort-> Its rude
10:31:46 <Mort-> Didn't want to offend diebot
10:31:52 <Mort-> Even if he is just a bot
10:32:51 <diebot> I can't hear you unless you use capitals
10:33:32 <Mort-> Oh. You need a hearing aid
10:34:47 <Hydrazine> !THROW 1D20+5
10:34:51 <Hydrazine> liar.
10:35:03 <Mort-> Talking about diebot!
10:35:05 <diebot> And for your information, 'Die' is a feminine nominative pronoun. I'm not a 'him'.
10:35:23 <Hydrazine> die is feminine in what language?
10:35:40 <MekkisScreen> german
10:35:45 <MekkisScreen> it would be der bot
10:35:46 <Hydrazine> English doesn't assign everything a gender.
10:35:49 <MekkisScreen> or das bot
10:35:53 <MekkisScreen> rather than die bot
10:38:34 <Hydrazine> Except a few throwbacks. Ships are generally known to be female. Which is funny when the specific vessel is named after a man.
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12:10:02 <matt> Hey guys. I can't play this saturday. I have to work late on friday night.
12:10:18 <matt> I'll post the update in the site
12:16:54 <Mort-> Ok
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13:33:03 <S711> http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/
13:35:59 <Steven> sup
13:36:42 <Steven> alright napped, cooked dinner, and sam will be home soon...
13:36:46 <Steven> day=good
13:36:50 <Steven> also no headache
13:36:55 <Steven> so day=great
13:37:02 <Hydrazine> cool.
13:37:22 <Hydrazine> I had a day of WINNING in league.
13:37:30 <Steven> high fives!
13:37:42 <Hydrazine> And I'm actually doing some work on my witch.
13:38:53 <Hydrazine> Still no name, but thats normal for me.
13:39:30 <Steven> need help? we have sev eral witches down at the shop
13:39:56 <Hydrazine> I think I got it pretty well sorted.
13:40:01 <Hydrazine> By now anyway.
13:40:08 <Hydrazine> I've only been more or less at it for a few days now.
13:40:30 <Steven> well, if you have any questions
13:40:31 <Steven> let me know
13:40:39 <Hydrazine> Let your mom know.
13:41:00 <Steven> hey now
13:41:08 <Steven> lets leave our mothers out of this
13:41:17 <Hydrazine> So I had fun, Steven. Theres a character costume in my vidja games that makes Tashes laugh like shes losing her damn mind.
13:41:28 <Hydrazine> So guess who I played? And followed her around with?
13:41:34 <Steven> bob?
13:41:45 <Hydrazine> It was great. She couldn't get shit done
13:41:52 <Hydrazine> And we still won.
13:43:16 <Steven> ive no clue about league
13:43:26 <Steven> i havent played it since the first like two weeks it was around
13:44:21 <Hydrazine> Eh. you don't need to understand that its great to chase your girlfriend around in a video game, playing a character she thinks is so cute that she can barely play.
13:45:22 <Steven> no but i have no idea who you are talking about
13:46:40 <Hydrazine> http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/122/6/1/teemo__3_by_electr0pulse-d3fg6mm.jpg
13:46:59 <Steven> alright cool
13:47:11 <Hydrazine> his ears bounce when he hops.
13:47:15 <Hydrazine> and he poops eggs.
13:47:15 <Steven> so... shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
13:47:21 <Steven> sams playing a video game
13:47:24 <Hydrazine> no wai
13:47:34 <Hydrazine> is it farmville?
13:47:39 <Steven> no
13:47:44 <Steven> Its portal 2
13:47:51 <Hydrazine> cool
13:47:58 <Steven> i was playing it earlier
13:48:06 <Steven> and she was like OMG THATS SO COOL
13:48:11 <Steven> and she actually said omg
13:48:40 <Hydrazine> pronounced 'omguh' or she spelled out Oh em gee?
13:49:42 <Steven> she spelled it out
13:49:49 <Steven> it was adorable and sexy all at the same time
13:50:14 <Hydrazine> I loved Portal to death, but I actually haven't played 2 yet.
13:52:49 <Steven> i keep telling her it starts with portal and ends with her playing pfs with me
13:53:00 <Steven> bwahahahahaha
13:53:28 <Hydrazine> start hiding D20s in her purse.
13:53:47 <Steven> OH MY GOD! great idea
13:53:49 <Steven> im doing it
13:54:03 <Hydrazine> here for you bro.
13:54:06 <Hydrazine> You know how cool I am?
13:54:19 <Hydrazine> My girlfriend carrys a d20 in her purse on her own.
13:54:49 <Steven> she has 4 more days off, i keep calling her a lazy shit lol
13:54:57 <Mort-> Lol
13:55:17 <Steven> she had to go drop off her keys to work
13:55:25 <Steven> and they paid her to drive down and do it lol
13:58:07 <Hydrazine> you know.
13:58:25 <Hydrazine> I don't think I can manage to play a game as a witch without monty python references all over the place.
13:59:22 <Steven> do et
14:01:12 <Steven> I just finished my Dirge Bards first 4 levels
14:13:50 <Steven> hahahahahahahhZha
14:13:55 <Steven> oh my god
14:14:03 <Hydrazine> oro?
14:14:08 <Steven> she just ran into her first scream at the television momment
14:14:22 <Steven> she failed it after getting so close to end
14:14:32 <Steven> and she starts raging
14:14:37 <Steven> and im like baby maybe you should take a break
14:14:45 <Steven> she turns to me and tells me to mind my own fucking business
14:14:50 <Steven> hahahahahah
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14:16:15 <Steven> i love this woman
14:29:52 <MekkisScreen> then for god's sake, hydra, don't play a witch!
14:30:00 <Mort-> Do it!
14:30:15 <Mort-> I wanted to see monty python!
14:30:42 <MekkisScreen> mort, it's overused, and wasn't funny in the first place
14:30:50 <Mort-> I think its funny
14:30:58 <Mort-> Your father smells of elder berries
14:31:09 <Mort-> But i think most things are funny anyway
14:31:23 <MekkisScreen> then you're not a good judge
14:31:28 <Mort-> Maybe
14:31:30 <Steven> they were funny the first time
14:31:34 <MekkisScreen> we should get a party of synthesists!
14:31:35 <Mort-> But i don't mind his character
14:31:43 <Steven> and now they have been done to death
14:31:50 <Mort-> If he sprouts monty python
14:31:53 <Mort-> Not at all
14:31:59 <Steven> um...... no i refuse to play a synth
14:32:17 <Mort-> Ill get the boot from avatar
14:32:20 <MekkisScreen> why?
14:32:43 <Mort-> Xyniel is banned from all of avatars games :(
14:32:54 <Steven> i just dont like how janky synths are
14:32:56 <Mort-> Poor her. Just a harmless little syn
14:33:01 <Mort-> Half elf of course
14:33:08 <Mort-> Brown eyes and hair
14:34:32 <MekkisScreen> I almost killed a synthesist
14:34:39 <Mort-> Actually i don't know how to rp her
14:34:40 <MekkisScreen> in the first encounter!
14:35:01 <Mort-> Did you have to pry him out of his suit?
14:35:03 <MekkisScreen> of mists of mwangi
14:35:11 <Mort-> Oh
14:35:20 <MekkisScreen> he had to do the rest of the scenario naked!
14:35:24 <Mort-> Lol
14:35:32 <Mort-> Then he is screwed
14:36:30 <Mort-> But yeah mek are you serious i should bring her around?
14:37:09 <MekkisScreen> yes
14:38:23 <MekkisScreen> if Avatar refuses to run for your characters, I'll need to ramp up my DMing to compensate!
14:38:38 <Mort-> Really mek?
14:38:46 <MekkisScreen> ja
14:38:48 <Mort-> I need help on her rp though
14:38:59 <Mort-> I wanted to play her in that campaign
14:39:00 <MekkisScreen> perhaps you do
14:39:09 <Mort-> And let the campaign shape my rp
14:39:21 <Mort-> That's the problem
14:39:24 <MekkisScreen> I suggest keeping her around, and creating a different one for PFS
14:39:30 <Steven> yeah lets do a game.... right now
14:39:34 <Mort-> I can't
14:39:36 <Steven> go go mek
14:39:38 <Mort-> I'm outside actually
14:39:45 <MekkisScreen> I'm on my lunchbreak
14:40:31 <MekkisScreen> and though I have CA and irc and skype on my phone, I won't be finished on time
14:40:45 <Mort-> Lol
14:40:53 <Mort-> I won't create her here
14:47:11 <Steven> excuses excuses
14:47:17 <Steven> brb restarting
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15:15:43 <Avatar`> yeah I won't run a synthesist
15:28:18 <Mort-> See?
15:28:25 <Mort-> Poor xyniel.
15:28:35 <Avatar`> synthesists suck
15:28:37 <Avatar`> roll a real class
15:28:38 <Mort-> Just a harmless fluffy lil syn
15:29:00 <Mort-> Ok i just thought on how to rp her
15:29:02 <Mort-> Heh
15:29:19 <Mort-> But since no one will run games for her :(
15:29:31 <Mort-> And Mek told me to run a syn!
15:29:49 <Avatar`> synthesists are not harmless
15:29:54 <Mort-> She is
15:30:00 <Mort-> I promise!
15:30:04 <Avatar`> mekkis and synthesists are a poisonous combination
15:30:09 <Mort-> She wouldn't kill anyone!
15:30:15 <Mort-> Really!
15:30:25 <Avatar`> show me her sheet
15:30:35 <mekkis_tablet> Avatar, stop these unjustified attacks on me
15:30:38 <Mort-> Level 3
15:30:39 <Mort-> Lol
15:30:43 <Avatar`> this is completely justified
15:30:57 <Avatar`> did you tell mort to roll a synthesist
15:31:01 <Mort-> Because that was for brus campaign
15:32:10 <Mort-> And he challenged me to do it!
15:32:31 <Avatar`> I challenge you not to do it
15:32:36 <Mort-> No
15:32:55 <Mort-> You aren't a cavalier
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16:38:23 <MekkisScreen> we should have a party of synthesists
16:41:22 <Avatar`> and they should die a slow death
16:44:45 <Brunius> How do they heal
16:44:51 <Brunius> (Without infernal healing)
16:44:58 <Avatar`> spell called rejuvenate eidolon
16:45:03 Avatar` is now known as Avatar
16:45:27 <Avatar> which I think is more effective than cure
16:46:05 <Brunius> I didn't ask how the eidolon healed
16:46:37 <Avatar> I think you did
16:47:42 <MekkisScreen> Lesser rejuvinate Eidolon
16:47:42 <Steven> alright back
16:47:48 <MekkisScreen> 1d10+CL
16:49:19 * Steven burps quite loudly
16:53:36 <Mort-> Yeah infernal healing works fine on your own hp
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16:54:03 <Mort-> Lesser rejuv eidolon should cover the rest
16:54:26 <Mort-> Besides syn generally are umd masters
16:56:57 <Brunius> Man
16:57:13 <Brunius> I'm gonna be spending 150 minutes travelling to/from school tomorrow
16:57:16 <Brunius> And 130 minutes there
16:57:20 <Brunius> (Incl. recess)
16:57:36 <Avatar> why
16:58:59 <Brunius> Late start because parent teacher interviews tonight
16:59:02 <Steven> damn that sucks man, sorry to hear it
16:59:05 <Brunius> So that's my first period cut off
16:59:08 <Brunius> -50 minutes
16:59:22 <Brunius> Wednesday Week 2 I have 4+5+6 off
16:59:38 <Brunius> -150 for periods, -50 for lunch
17:00:00 <Brunius> =100 for periods 2+3, 30 for recess
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17:01:55 <Brunius> you splitter
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17:09:33 <Mort-> Mekkis you there?
17:11:07 <Steven> lets fight mort
17:11:16 <Steven> !rand rock paper scissors
17:11:16 <dicebot> Steven, random: paper
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17:13:22 <Mort-> Uh
17:13:48 <Steven> rock paper scissors!
17:13:49 <Mort-> i just discovered weird stuff
17:14:06 <Steven> you poop necturines?
17:14:14 <Mort-> At 7th level, when a magus prepares his magus spells, he can decide to expend 1 or more points from his arcane pool, up to his Intelligence bonus. For each point he expends, he can treat any one spell from the magus spell list as if it were in his spellbook and can prepare that spell as normal that day. If he does not cast spells prepared in this way before the next time he prepares spells, he loses those spells. He can also cast spells added in this way us
17:14:24 <Mort-> Basically you have every spell under the sun?
17:14:38 <Steven> any spell on the magus list
17:14:47 <Mort-> Recall. Write into spell book. Recall. Write into spell book
17:14:53 <Mort-> Rinse and repeat
17:14:57 <Mort-> Cool beans
17:15:04 <Mort-> Once at 7 you have all spells
17:15:14 <Steven> no
17:15:23 <Steven> you dont get to copy the spell into your spellbook
17:15:29 <Steven> you just get to prepare the spell into the spell slot
17:16:07 <Mort-> If you knew the slot
17:16:13 <Mort-> Can't you write it down?
17:16:17 <Steven> no
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17:16:26 <Steven> you are preparing the spell as if you knew it
17:16:30 <Mort-> Aka one day your spell book gets stolen
17:16:49 <Mort-> What you memorized for the day you can write it down ?
17:17:03 <Steven> no, you would have to rewrite your spellbook
17:17:47 <Mort-> Even those you memorized
17:18:02 <Steven> even those you memorized
17:18:08 <Mort-> Can't you write down those you memorized?
17:18:09 <Mort-> Hm
17:18:36 <Mort-> This doesn't expend your spell slots right
17:18:54 <Mort-> You still need to use exsisting spell slots
17:19:20 <Steven> yes you still need to use spell slots
17:20:02 <Mort-> Ah k
17:20:12 <Steven> its basically if you dont have XXXXXXX spell in your spellbook and you knwo you will be fighting something that is vulnerable to XXXXXXXXX
17:20:12 <Mort-> All right back to snooze mode
17:20:28 <Mort-> You can prepare it.
17:20:32 <Steven> you can prepare it
17:20:36 <Mort-> ill buy all spells anyway eventually
17:20:38 <Steven> even though you normally wouldnt be able to
17:20:46 <Mort-> No biggie
17:20:49 <Steven> i seriously doubt that mort. copying spells is expensive
17:21:27 <Mort-> If two people readied actions
17:21:33 <Mort-> Which happens first
17:21:46 <Mort-> Say person b does s
17:22:02 <Steven> like preparing actions before combat?
17:22:07 <Steven> or during combat?
17:22:21 <Mort-> Person a readies an action to hit c when b does s on c
17:22:27 <Mort-> During
17:22:49 <Steven> depends on how the actions are worded
17:23:07 <Mort-> D readies an action to do something to c once c gets under s
17:23:17 <Mort-> So which would come first
17:23:24 <Steven> if its When person B hits C with S, Person D does A on C
17:23:38 <Steven> then Bs actionw ill happen, followed by Person Ds action
17:24:00 <Steven> if its When person B attempts to Hit C with S, Person D does A on C
17:24:15 <Steven> then when person B makes the attempt, person Ds attempt goes off
17:24:43 <Mort-> This is complicated
17:24:50 <Steven> and if its a situation where two people have readied actions to respond to a trigger, i would rule it as whoevers initiative is higher.
17:25:27 <Steven> It is complicated, but simple if you pay attention to triggered actions and the orders.
17:25:54 <Mort-> B intends to do s on c. A readies an action to hit c the moment s lands on b
17:25:58 <Mort-> Sorry
17:26:04 <Mort-> S lands on c
17:26:21 <Steven> A's action would then go off
17:26:24 <Mort-> D will do something to c the moment s lands
17:26:29 <Mort-> On c
17:26:43 <Steven> then Ds action.
17:27:00 <Mort-> Both are triggered by s landing on c
17:27:20 <Mort-> So what happens on s landing
17:27:20 <MekkisScreen> arguably I told you how Mytiazair handles his spellbook, right?
17:27:41 <Steven> you did not specify initiatives so i took at as A>D on initiative.
17:27:42 <Mort-> And also what if d delayed as opposed to readying
17:27:55 <Mort-> D may beat a on initiative
17:28:00 <Mort-> Its not certain
17:28:13 <Mort-> How about delays
17:28:19 <Steven> when you undelay after someones turn in the combat
17:28:57 <Steven> You did not provide an initative order on your scenario, A is assumed to have higher Initiative.
17:29:03 <Mort-> Does it take precedence over readied actions?
17:29:05 <Mort-> Ok
17:29:23 <Steven> but its whoever can act fastest imo, so if D has higher initative order
17:29:25 <Steven> he would go off first
17:29:32 <Steven> because he is reacting faster in the combat
17:29:50 <Steven> but redied actions take precedence over delays
17:29:54 <Mort-> Ok
17:29:58 <Steven> because they are in response to another action
17:30:04 <Mort-> Just needed to know
17:30:09 <Steven> where as a delay is holding their order in initative.
17:30:24 <Steven> until they wish to jump back into combat after another persons turn
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17:30:55 <Mort-> K
17:31:10 <Mort-> So i have to watch for a having higher initiative then d
17:31:38 <Steven> You just have to pay attention to initiative order
17:31:51 <Mort-> Ok
17:32:07 <Steven> I play EDH games for around 3hrs a week. I view it as per the Stack
17:32:15 <Steven> and in EDH the stack gets rediculous
17:32:40 <Mort-> Ah k
17:32:44 <Steven> my suggestion
17:33:12 <MekkisScreen> pretty much
17:33:13 <Steven> go play edh, afterwards initiative, readied actions, and delay will become easy as pie
17:33:33 <Mort-> Next
17:33:39 <Steven> k
17:33:48 <Mort-> Can you carry your familiar in a pouch so he has his hands free
17:33:54 <Mort-> Or holding something
17:33:59 <MekkisScreen> Steven: but do you do APNAP based on initiative order?
17:34:04 <Mort-> While you run around
17:34:11 <Steven> im terrible with abreviations
17:34:22 <MekkisScreen> order of priority
17:34:35 <MekkisScreen> Active player non-active player
17:34:45 <Steven> in what situations
17:34:57 <Steven> edh or pfs?
17:35:02 <MekkisScreen> pathfinder
17:35:33 <Steven> active player has priority over non active players for any actions the player is doing.
17:36:12 <Steven> active player is decided upon initiative order in combat, and outside of combat it is party based who is doing what in what order, its a question posed to the table and discussed
17:36:30 <MekkisScreen> that's not how it works in Magic, and I'm not sure how you could make it like that in pathfinder
17:36:42 <Steven> occationally i put time constraints on it because people want to come up with elaborate plans
17:36:55 <Steven> and its just bad
17:37:10 <Mort-> The key thing is who's actions go first if both actions have same trigger
17:37:22 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: for that I use initiative
17:37:24 <Steven> we arent talking about magic though we are talking about pfs, i have different rules for magic
17:37:55 <Mort-> Ok
17:37:59 <Steven> but magic is much more complex when it comes to triggers, priority passing and what not then PFS
17:38:03 <Mort-> Ill need to pay attention to it
17:38:25 <Mort-> That's going to make my life complicated
17:38:42 <Steven> me too mort, initiative.
17:38:48 <Steven> it solves so many problems.
17:39:20 <Steven> two weeks bacck, i had a person who wanted to pick up an idol, another member of the party decided they wanted to pick it up
17:39:25 <Mort-> At least delay i know will come over initiative
17:39:28 <Steven> and i was like okay... reflex saves
17:39:35 <Steven> lets see who is faster
17:39:44 <Mort-> What the fk :d
17:39:49 <Steven> they bothed rolled the same
17:39:55 <Mort-> Itchy fingers
17:39:57 <Mort-> Haha
17:39:59 <Mort-> Random
17:40:05 <Steven> so i was like... hmmm damn... Initiative check who dove for it first
17:40:31 <Steven> yeah, one was a chelaxian the other qadiran
17:41:31 <Steven> ethnic tension so much fun
17:42:11 <Mort-> Lol
17:42:13 <Mort-> Funny
17:42:31 <Mort-> Ok that was insightful
17:42:56 <Mort-> I better remember initiative orders even if I'm not dming
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18:20:28 Avatar` is now known as Avatar
18:21:06 <Avatar> Brunius: did you see the village near us
18:21:43 <Mekkis> someone gift me a copy of minecraft please
18:22:07 <Avatar> can't you afford it
18:22:40 <Mekkis> not at the moment
18:22:53 <Avatar> I'll gift it if you can pay me back
18:23:19 <Mekkis> that's not a gift then
18:23:27 <Mekkis> I need to buy new shoes for a job interview
18:23:49 <Steven> well if you are going for a new job, you should study up on the company history
18:23:52 <Steven> not play minecraft
18:24:19 <Mekkis> Steven, I have
18:24:39 <Steven> im willing to bet you could learn more
18:24:49 <Mekkis> I'm wondering if I should try to dig deeper into each of the six people interviewing me via facebook and linkedin....
18:24:56 <Avatar> so really it's not a case of you don't have the money, just you don't want to spend the money
18:24:58 <Steven> do et
18:25:00 <Avatar> and you want someone else to do it for you
18:25:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, shoes take priority to minecraft!
18:25:25 <Avatar> I need shoes too man
18:25:27 <Avatar> I need shoes too
18:25:43 <Mekkis> then why did you buy minecraft?
18:25:44 <Steven> i could use a new pair of shoes as well
18:25:52 <Steven> I have some broke down tennies and some work boots
18:28:25 <Avatar> I bought minecraft when it was in alpha
18:28:30 <Avatar> and half price
18:30:57 <Mort-> Mekkis
18:31:39 <Mekkis> dot
18:32:15 <Mort-> :d
18:33:10 <Mekkis> time to learn Varisian!
18:33:46 <Mort-> Cool
18:34:00 <Mekkis> and Thassalonian
18:34:15 <Mort-> Poor xyn gets banned from tables :(
18:36:43 <Mekkis> poor Avatar has less players to DM for
18:39:50 <Avatar> if it means less synthesists playing, all the better
18:39:57 <Mort-> Really :(
18:40:03 <Avatar> they are that bad
18:40:13 <Mort-> Actually he might have a point
18:40:20 <Mort-> I do have some cheese on
18:40:22 <Mekkis> if it means that I have more timeslots to run stuff in, great!
18:40:30 <Mort-> Really mek?
18:40:41 <Mort-> If i could get games on her i don't mind
18:40:50 <Mort-> Now i have an idea how to rp her
18:40:52 <Mort-> Lol
18:41:14 <Mort-> Will really get to tie lots of people up
18:42:16 <Mort-> Lets pretend I'm a pally ^^
18:49:37 <MekkisScreen> sure...
18:50:14 <MekkisScreen> I don't mind running games for synthesists, as long as they're prepared
18:50:38 <MekkisScreen> better a prepared synthesist than an unprepared fighter
18:51:39 <Mort-> I won't come into a game unprepared mek
18:51:46 <Mort-> I try to cover all occasions
18:51:51 <Mort-> E
18:52:03 <Mort-> Well except stuff i haven't encountered before
18:52:21 <Mort-> Now you get my fingers itching
18:58:16 <Mort-> Mekkis
18:58:31 <Mort-> What other items can you use to get permanent followers
18:58:39 <Mort-> Wonderous items
18:58:46 <Mort-> Ideally with hands
19:51:53 <Avatar> man creepers bother me
20:04:06 * Mort- turns into a creeper and sneaks up and bites avatar
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20:24:18 <Avatar> creepers don't sneak up and bite you
20:24:21 <Avatar> they sneak up and explode
20:25:56 <Mort-> Well I'm a mort creeper
20:26:04 <Mort-> They have special traits
20:26:20 * Mort- tries to swallow whole on avatar
20:29:29 <Avatar> that's hot
20:31:37 <Brunius> No
20:31:38 <Brunius> What village
20:31:48 <Avatar> follow the tunnels
20:31:53 <Brunius> what tunnels
20:31:58 <Avatar> look for them
20:32:01 <Avatar> they're pretty easy to spot
20:32:13 <Brunius> Are they underground
20:32:17 <Avatar> no
20:32:25 <Avatar> go from my place to yours and keep going
20:32:29 <Avatar> er
20:32:31 <Avatar> your place to mine
20:33:12 * Mort- tries to gobble up brunius
20:58:28 <Mort-> Hm Sunday i may have some problems
20:59:55 <Mort-> Mothers day celebration
21:00:01 <Mort-> Going out...
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21:19:51 <Avatar> might end up cancelling it if nobody wants to show
21:20:08 <Brunius> what's on sunday?
21:20:15 <Avatar> voice in the void
21:20:36 <Avatar> could run something else, but I don't think the scenario is the issue
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21:28:56 <Mekkis> yeah
21:29:01 <Mekkis> I was planning on running it]
21:31:11 <Avatar> running what
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21:32:12 <Mekkis> voice\
21:32:47 <Avatar> give everyone a turn first
21:33:41 <Mekkis> shouldn't there be continuity?
21:33:50 <Mekkis> or don't you think players should care about that?
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21:34:29 <Brunius> What do you mean continuity?
21:34:35 <Brunius> It seems an odd thing to put forward in this context
21:35:18 <Mekkis> having the same person run the scenarios put forward in the same location
21:36:30 <Mort-> Sunday i think i need ballig to start earlier
21:36:38 <Mort-> Sat I'm fine whatever time
21:36:49 <Mort-> Sunday got mothers day celebration on dinner time
21:36:59 <Mort-> So if we start earlier its better for me
21:37:15 <Mort-> Sat I'm fine
21:37:45 <Mort-> I don't mind spending the last h being npced though
21:38:08 <Mort-> Point is i just can't idle around the whole day like i usually do
21:38:21 <Mort-> Ill have about 6 h
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21:39:17 <Avatar> you've already run it before man
21:39:27 <Brunius> So?
21:39:35 <Brunius> Having run it before he will be more familiar with it
21:39:38 <Ballig> so it's fair to give somoene else a chance
21:39:49 <Mort-> Ballig
21:39:49 <Brunius> Thus giving the players a better experience
21:39:50 <Avatar> nobody else will ever get familiar with it by that logic
21:40:02 <Ballig> Brunius: by that logic, no one should run anything they haven't already run
21:40:05 <Mort-> Can you start Sunday 2 h earlier?
21:40:07 <Mort-> Thanks
21:40:07 <Ballig> and therefore should never run anything ever
21:40:09 <Brunius> That is correct.
21:40:10 <Mort-> Or 3
21:40:11 <Ballig> stop playing devil's advocate just to troll us
21:40:29 <Mort-> I'm having a mothers day celebration for dinner
21:40:33 <Ballig> Mort-: no
21:40:36 <Brunius> I seriously want to reach through my internets and punch you Ballig.
21:40:39 <Mort-> So can't hang around like i used to
21:40:42 <Brunius> It's a pity it won't work.
21:40:53 <Ballig> yeah, call you out for trolling so let's respond with threats
21:40:54 <Mort-> So i can play for 6 h then i really need to scoot
21:41:17 <Brunius> I wasn't actually trolling in this case.
21:41:22 <Mort-> I don't mind being npced if it comes to that
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21:41:31 <Ballig> he's become such an immature wanker lately
21:41:57 <Ballig> seems to be constantly spoiling for an argument, so puts his nose into everything
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21:45:04 <Ballig> Mort-: the website thinks you've played shades of ice 2
21:45:11 <Mort-> Ok
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21:45:17 <Ballig> have you?
21:45:18 <Mort-> I need to fix it
21:45:20 <Mort-> No
21:45:26 <Mort-> I mixed scenarios up
21:45:55 <Mort-> Argh I'm on cell
21:46:25 <Ballig> it's not a big deal to fix now
21:46:27 <Ballig> I just need to confirm
21:46:38 * Mort- eats some cheese
21:46:48 <Mort-> Sat i only have 6 hs
21:46:55 <Mort-> Bit of a waste not to play on that
21:46:57 <Mort-> But
21:47:19 <Mort-> Part 2 is going to be weird
21:47:24 <Mort-> Can i replay part 1?
21:47:32 <Ballig> I'm not sure about that
21:47:41 <Mort-> Considering we never got past first act
21:48:03 <Mort-> Steven said something about that saying can and gave me a wall of text
21:48:14 <Mort-> But i forget
21:48:16 <Mort-> As truck
21:48:18 <Mort-> Usual
21:50:14 <Mort-> I think i can replay part 1 though from what Steven said
21:51:26 <Ballig> I think because you didn't do three encounters you might be able to, but I'm not 100%
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21:54:18 <Mort-> Steven gave one block of text to say i could
21:54:19 <Mort-> Anyway
21:54:25 <Mort-> I forget :d
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22:11:17 <Avatar> yeah you can replay part 1 considering you didn't do 3 encounters
22:12:18 <Mort-> K
22:12:23 <Mort-> Which rule was it
22:12:31 <Mort-> Anyway yep
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22:17:04 <Mort-> Also if your character is permanently negatively leveled
22:17:17 <Mort-> What do you count about apl
22:19:29 <Avatar> I think it's the same as your actual level
22:19:37 <Avatar> permanently negative levelled isn't really permanent
22:19:55 <Avatar> it's just more permanent than "temporary"
22:20:12 <Avatar> it needs you to do something about it rather than have it go away on its own
22:20:41 <Avatar> you can always use your smarts and just play down, though
22:21:01 <Avatar> but you can't play tier 4-5 when you're level 6 and negative levelled
22:21:04 <Mort-> Ok
22:21:09 <Mort-> Just checking
22:21:34 <Mort-> Say you have a table of 4 and 5s
22:21:40 <Mort-> Can you choose to play at
22:21:51 <Mort-> 1-2?
22:22:13 <Mort-> Assuming that
22:22:58 <Mort-> When does apl make you play up
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23:52:03 <Mekkis> when it matches the higer tier
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