// #d&d — 2012-03-21
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07:18:17 <Hydrazine> irc's dead as, broo.
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10:14:37 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 1pm (Avatar, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
10:14:37 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Mar 18 18:15:06 2012
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10:36:28 <Mort-> Morning
10:45:55 <Avatar> what's going on mort
10:46:13 <Mort-> What wharf
10:46:25 <Mort-> What what's going on
10:46:26 <Mort-> I just said good morning
10:46:26 <Avatar> the one by the beach
10:46:42 <Mort-> Its a typo
10:46:54 <Mort-> You asked me what was going on
10:47:01 <Mort-> I just said good morning
10:47:59 * Mort- camps hydrazine, setting up fishing poles and beer
10:50:00 <Avatar> OK
10:54:53 <Hydrazine> oro?
10:55:06 <Hydrazine> Tiger beer, Mort?
10:55:49 <Mort-> :d
10:55:49 <Mort-> Can't remember the last one i frank
10:55:49 <Mort-> Drank
10:56:04 <Mort-> Tasted like roasted honey
10:58:10 <Hydrazine> I've had Tiger beer.
10:58:34 <Hydrazine> Wish I could find some taquizo.
10:59:11 <Mort-> Lol
10:59:17 <Hydrazine> Or it might be tequizo. Something like that. Had it as a party once. its a beer that tastes like tequila.
11:00:14 * Mort- nibbles hydrazine
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11:55:20 <Avatar> http://www.raphkoster.com/2012/03/15/the-best-articles/
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11:59:32 <sfdas> alienware m17x laptop and macbook pro 15" for immediate sale. price 700 each. email me at [email protected] if interested
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12:10:54 Brunius_AFK is now known as Brunius
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12:21:34 <Brunius> Avatar- !
12:22:22 <Avatar-> yo
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13:21:51 <Avatar-> pretty nasty crash in the city
13:22:21 <Avatar-> little collins and king st intersection, just after I crossed it
13:22:45 <Mort-> What happened
13:24:57 <Brunius> Was it a hook turn that caused it.
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13:56:15 <Brunius> Man, it rains all day, then turns sunny again.
14:01:12 <Mort-> Sunny = gud!
14:01:27 <Mort-> Rainy days put me in bad mood
14:22:23 <MekkisScreen> AdB | "I find that having a pint or two is a good problem-solving technique.
14:22:25 <MekkisScreen> | Especially if it's vodka rather than beer." -- Peter Corlett
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14:44:16 <Brunius> http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/cad-20120321-00fe7.png
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14:46:25 <Avatar> apparently they are going to try get me an interview with apple tomorrow
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14:46:53 <Brunius> What
14:46:58 <Brunius> They what.
14:47:02 <Brunius> Can I have an iPhone?
14:47:09 <Avatar> yeah I will be trading in my galaxy S for all things i
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14:47:30 <Avatar> that's what I will be like
14:47:43 <Brunius> Conformist?
14:47:59 <Avatar> what can I say
14:48:03 <Avatar> this changes everything. again.
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14:48:46 <Brunius> Man, 600 more words by tomorrow
14:48:49 <Brunius> This is gonna be hard.
14:52:50 <Avatar> on what
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15:11:42 <Brunius> Man, I cannot spell today.
15:11:47 * Brunius cuts off mortswishytail's tail.
15:12:10 <mortswishytail> What?
15:12:28 <mortswishytail> Oh my god I'm tailess :(
15:12:57 * Brunius salts the wound.
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15:24:21 <Avatar> haha
15:24:28 <Avatar> they gave me this work thing I have to complete at home over the internet
15:24:39 <MekkisScreen> what is it?
15:24:42 <Avatar> it's just a bunch of flash movies that I can keep running in the background
15:24:56 <Avatar> it looks like it has to play through to move onto the next one
15:31:23 <Avatar> Hydrazine: did you find out about the stand still feat
15:36:54 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: can;t you say "I'm using an iDevice: no flash for me."
15:47:04 <Brunius> Ha
15:47:19 <Brunius> Yeah, they do that for the OH&S stuff for school
15:47:27 <Brunius> You set it to run through and leave it on overnight
15:47:31 <Mort-> Hydra is asleep
15:47:35 <Mort-> You won't find him
15:48:08 * Mort- covers hydrazine with a pink fluffy blanket
15:49:19 <Hydrazine> Oh. Um. I haven't really looked. I think I'm willing to say "If its good enough for DMs to use, its good enough for me."
15:49:46 <Brunius> A lot of DMs use Improved Init
15:53:27 <Avatar> wow
15:53:32 <Avatar> one of the activities in this thing
15:53:47 <Avatar> you're meant to reorder five sentences to where they fit
15:54:03 <Avatar> literally fit, because they're in awkward-sized shapes and you just have to drag and drop them into the outlines of those awkward sized shapes
15:54:09 <Avatar> so I'll complete this one without reading what it says
15:54:20 <Hydrazine> Who designed this?
15:54:38 <Avatar> hahaha
15:59:29 <Brunius> ...
15:59:44 <Brunius> Who are they designing this for?
16:15:41 <Avatar> computer illiterate people I guess
16:16:33 <Avatar> it has a volume up/down thing on it and if you turn it all the way down, it still keeps going like you are listening
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16:21:02 <SpaceshotNote> This took longer than wanted to get in here with my phone
16:21:26 <SpaceshotNote> Though Swyping is awesome
16:23:03 <Avatar> YEP
16:34:27 <SpaceshotNote> So I'm still tempted to create my campaign, though it is still a bit odd, and good chance of no Jedi
16:35:11 <SpaceshotNote> But that all depends on mekkis' ability to be a but hurt
16:36:20 <SpaceshotNote> As to weather or not I play in Brunius' pirate campaign
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16:37:46 <SpaceshotNote> Butthurt*
16:39:29 <MekkisScreen> still tossing up between expert, bard and rogue
16:40:19 <MekkisScreen> maybe aristocrat!
16:42:39 <SpaceshotNote> Why are you intent on trying to be an honest merchant in a pirating campaign with fellow pirates?
16:42:48 <SpaceshotNote> Sounds to me you're just trying to troll the other players
16:43:47 <Avatar> just opt out spaceshot
16:43:58 <Avatar> better than arguing about it everyday
16:45:30 <SpaceshotNote> Dude it's retarded and I'm also trying to think of others, pirates don't pirate around with an honest merchant and honest merchants don't do pirating
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16:47:30 <Spaceshot> also, not trying to argue, more of trying to understand where he is coming from and going with with that character concept
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16:50:46 <Avatar> I'm only talking about the you playing in brunius' campaign, since mekkis is clearly playing
16:51:14 <Spaceshot> and again, I'm only talking mekkis' character concept for said campaign
16:52:16 <MekkisScreen> I'll be open to discussion with the pirates who will have ample opportunity to convince me that pirating is a more attractive option than honest trading
16:52:26 <Spaceshot> so you are trolling then
16:52:35 <Spaceshot> you know it's a pirating campaign
16:52:36 <MekkisScreen> sorry about choosing a character concept that encourages roleplaying
16:52:46 <Spaceshot> it encourages trolling
16:53:50 <Spaceshot> that's like if there was a 'erradication of undead' campaign and you decided to make a necromancer
16:54:02 <MekkisScreen> no. Trolling would be playing a paladin who staunchly refuses to change his ways.
16:54:18 <MekkisScreen> plus, I've told Brunius my idea, and he's fine with it
16:54:40 <Spaceshot> I bet mekkis doesn't want to get into anything more than being ok with it
16:54:43 <MekkisScreen> as I said, it leaves a lot of opportunities for roleplaying with the rest of the party
16:54:50 <Spaceshot> you're being a dick
16:54:52 <Mort-> Pallies are silly
16:54:53 <Spaceshot> plain and simple
16:55:10 <Mort-> I don't mind
16:55:18 <Spaceshot> hey, I should still play, and make someone who's deathly affraid of water
16:55:19 * Mort- is an amused mur
16:55:26 <Spaceshot> lots of roleplay opportunities
16:55:38 <Spaceshot> and yes, affraid might have 1 f
16:55:44 <Spaceshot> don't know, don't care XD
16:57:18 <Avatar> haha, i'm supposed to log how much time I've spent on these activities
16:57:29 <Avatar> if you say you completed it in half the time, it pops up a big yellow exclamation mark next to it
16:57:31 <Spaceshot> on have interviews and stuff?
16:57:34 <Avatar> so I just went back into it and put the minimum time in there
16:57:40 <Spaceshot> hahaha
16:58:08 <Spaceshot> don't you love centerlink's ability to keep things in line?
17:00:08 <MekkisScreen> wow... hypocracy, personal attacks and unjustified claims. Think of the others in this channel.
17:00:40 <Spaceshot> where?
17:01:08 <Spaceshot> also, I don't care for your legal mumbo jumbo, we aren't playing laywers and lawsuits
17:09:27 <Spaceshot> time to make a fullplate wearing earthman :P
17:09:53 <Avatar> wow i've logged 9 hours of work in about an hour or so
17:12:43 <Spaceshot> heh
17:35:36 <Mekkis> Avatar, are you considering something for Brunius' campaign?
17:36:05 <Avatar> only if he's short a player because of spaceshot dropping out
17:36:18 <Mekkis> ah
17:36:37 <Avatar> I am really only keen on PFS
17:36:47 <Avatar> if we weren't playing PFS I would consider
17:37:04 <Avatar> I don't really want to run more than the multitude of characters I already have
17:37:08 <Mekkis> fair enough
17:37:13 <Avatar> it's pathfinder isnt' it
17:37:16 <Avatar> I rolled up an alchemist the other day
17:37:16 <Mekkis> yeah
17:37:18 <Avatar> I could use that
17:37:43 <Avatar> hopefully there are others keener though
17:37:44 <Mekkis> it's a good opportunity to play something or do something that you can't do in PFS
17:37:57 <Mekkis> like make money trading
17:38:01 <Avatar> PFS doesn't bother me
17:38:12 <Mekkis> or have radical changes in your character
17:38:21 <Avatar> the only time I've ever said damn I wish I could do this and that was when I started playing PFS
17:44:35 <Mekkis> ah
17:50:26 <Spaceshot> yep, that's where I'm at now avatar
17:50:44 <Avatar> you get used to it
17:51:00 <Avatar> at pretty much just after the point you're at now
17:51:08 <Avatar> I mean you know how to play don't you
17:52:05 <Spaceshot> yea
17:52:11 <Spaceshot> and still, I might play or not
17:52:19 <Avatar> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
17:52:56 <Spaceshot> awesome
18:02:43 <Spaceshot> I should so play draw something with my galaxy note
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18:13:40 <Mekkis> greetings War_Wrecker, internodian
18:14:00 <War_Wrecker> hai
18:15:49 <Avatar> War_Wrecker roll up a character
18:16:03 <War_Wrecker> What rules?
18:16:15 <War_Wrecker> 3.5 or 4?
18:16:16 <Avatar> pathfinder society
18:16:21 <Avatar> have you played pathfinder?
18:16:24 <War_Wrecker> nope
18:16:27 <Avatar> ok
18:16:31 <Avatar> it's like 3.5 but better
18:16:32 <Avatar> go to
18:16:44 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
18:16:45 <War_Wrecker> http://www.pathguy.com/PathfinderCore.htm
18:16:48 <War_Wrecker> :3
18:17:00 <Mort-> Very funny
18:17:08 <War_Wrecker> Shall I just run through that?
18:17:50 <Avatar> that's not really good enough
18:17:56 <Avatar> you can play with a pregen if you want
18:18:05 <Ballig> wow that's a really ugly generator
18:18:14 <War_Wrecker> It is ugly
18:18:21 <War_Wrecker> but it does 3.5 easily
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18:18:31 <War_Wrecker> and supports a lot of things
18:19:03 <Mekkis> looks too automated
18:19:34 <War_Wrecker> It is
18:19:38 <War_Wrecker> I supplement it with databases
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18:19:55 <War_Wrecker> Or use it to whip up a template to bring to a game
18:21:15 <Avatar> there's a template on the newbie guide
18:21:29 <War_Wrecker> yeah i got it
18:21:35 <Spaceshot> or you know, read the rules
18:21:45 <Spaceshot> I know it's outdated and not used that often, but I heard it works wonders
18:22:15 <Ballig> no need to be an asshat spaceshot
18:22:54 <War_Wrecker> just getting combat assistant working
18:23:33 <Avatar> once you've downloaded it, it's "working"
18:23:39 <Avatar> keep it for when we're ready to play
18:25:23 <War_Wrecker> how many points?
18:25:46 <War_Wrecker> For the point buy?
18:26:03 <Ballig> you'll want to get the Pathfinder Society Guide to Organised Play
18:26:07 <Ballig> to know all the character creation rules
18:26:24 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
18:26:28 <Ballig> I think that's the link, it's free
18:27:42 <Mort-> 20
18:28:58 <War_Wrecker> thanks mort
18:29:38 <Ballig> you will want the guide anyway
18:29:44 <Ballig> it tells you all the other rules about character creation
18:29:53 <War_Wrecker> "buying" it now
18:29:57 <Ballig> ha
18:34:01 <War_Wrecker> okay so what else
18:34:24 <War_Wrecker> do we have a party yet?
18:36:35 <War_Wrecker> hello?
18:40:28 <War_Wrecker> What class I roll up is dependent on party members
18:45:01 <Mort-> Good luck
18:45:21 <Mort-> Because you really don't know who your going to party with in pfs
18:45:22 <Mort-> Lol
18:45:49 <War_Wrecker> yeah I know
18:46:06 <Mort-> Just fyi, I've played before with no one in party who could use cure light wounds
18:46:08 <War_Wrecker> but I assumed you told me to roll up a character, for use in a campaign
18:46:25 <Mort-> We generally use scenarios
18:46:26 <War_Wrecker> or just a specific session
18:46:33 <Mort-> Not a full campaign
18:46:56 <War_Wrecker> I'm tired of being the 3rd wizard
18:47:07 <Mort-> Though bru is running a pirate campaign some time next month i think
18:47:27 <Mort-> We make do.
18:47:52 <Mort-> We actually walked off the last time without any healer in party
18:52:26 <War_Wrecker> Is a magus a horribly amalgamation of a class?
18:52:58 <War_Wrecker> a horrible*
18:53:14 <War_Wrecker> I was going to say horribly executed amalgamation
18:53:56 * Mort- is seriously offended now
18:54:30 <Mort-> That's it. Next time you roll a level 1. I'm challenging you to a duel :p
18:54:35 <War_Wrecker> I'm just asking
18:54:51 <War_Wrecker> Because I want to play Magus
18:54:56 <War_Wrecker> and I'm checking if it's shite
18:55:22 <Mort-> Up to you
18:55:35 <War_Wrecker> pathfinder has.. *gasp* BALANCED CLASSES?
18:55:40 <Mort-> Really. We can all go to hell in our own way
18:57:07 <Mort-> On a more serious note if you do go magus
18:57:28 <Mort-> My take on it is you function more like a tank then a caster
18:57:38 <War_Wrecker> Sounds like swordmage
18:57:50 <War_Wrecker> 20 AC at level 1 wut
18:57:57 <War_Wrecker> And you shoot lightning
18:58:57 <War_Wrecker> Just checking the archetypes
19:00:24 <Mort-> No
19:00:39 <Mort-> You run out of lightning its your problem
19:00:52 <Mort-> Don't "nova"
19:00:59 <War_Wrecker> Yeah I know
19:01:04 <War_Wrecker> Don't just spam everything all at once
19:01:10 <War_Wrecker> There's a reason wizards are balanced
19:01:16 <Mort-> And that ac thing you don't want to abuse it either
19:01:24 <Mort-> It won't last long
19:02:20 <Mort-> And mind you light armor till level 7 will get very interestig
19:02:37 <Mort-> A 2 handed plate wearer can hit 20 ac easily
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19:30:36 <Brunius> AC 20 at level 1?
19:31:02 <Brunius> With one feat invested and full bab, 18 str you're only getting +6
19:31:03 <Mort-> Nah
19:31:10 <Mort-> Talking about later
19:31:32 <Mort-> Magus your sort of stuck at 16-17 ish ac
19:31:36 <Mort-> Permanently
19:31:42 <Mort-> Till level 7
19:32:16 <Mort-> Not to mention your most effective at the front in the melee mess
19:32:41 <Mort-> Oh well. Rogues do it too and somehow they get out alive. I wonder how. But they do :p
19:48:40 <Avatar> yeah I don't think 20 AC is that hard to do
19:48:50 <Avatar> I've gotten close without trying
19:50:55 <Mort-> Lucky fk. Here i am trying to improve my ac
19:51:12 <Mort-> And you say you get it without even trying :(
19:52:10 <Avatar> yeah Buck had like 18 when I started him off
19:52:18 <Brunius> Hurry the fk up minotaur
19:52:20 <Brunius> I want my stuff.
19:52:23 <Avatar> arcane casters with shield + mage armor get it off the bat
19:52:35 <Avatar> + whatever dex they have
19:52:43 <Avatar> in fact, you're an arcane spellcaster
19:52:47 <Avatar> you should know this
19:53:31 <Mort-> Dude shield is so short duration
19:53:40 <Mort-> Mage armor is always on.
19:53:44 <Avatar> it lasts an encounter
19:53:50 <Mort-> You put shield on you waste one round :p
19:53:59 <Mort-> No time :(
19:54:00 <Ballig> shield is good for critical encounters
19:54:10 <Avatar> but once it's on you have OVER 20 ac
19:54:14 <Avatar> if you are doign the rest right
19:54:26 <Ballig> a lot of the time you have to get into position anyway
19:55:04 <Mort-> 21 to be exact. But i don't really show it off :p
19:57:06 <Mort-> Last scenario they still would have hit us
19:57:14 <Mort-> Whatever ac we had ^^
19:58:16 <Ballig> it's precautionary
19:59:10 <Mort-> Oooh
19:59:21 <Mort-> Has mek played this before?
19:59:25 <Mort-> Sounds fun
19:59:26 <Ballig> don't believe so
19:59:31 <Mort-> Mort
19:59:34 <Avatar> what's "this"
19:59:42 <Avatar> played what before
19:59:43 <Ballig> I'm assuming she's talking about the game I just scheduled
19:59:45 <Mort-> Khaz needs leveling though
19:59:57 <Avatar> which one is it
20:00:02 <Ballig> midnight mauler
20:00:11 <Brunius> I've played it.
20:00:12 <Avatar> through IRC?
20:00:19 <Ballig> no
20:00:28 <Ballig> Brunius: you played it last weekend or something?
20:00:39 <Mekkis> I
20:00:41 <Brunius> I played it ages ago man
20:00:43 <Mekkis> I'm playing it next week
20:00:47 <Ballig> it's like the latest scenario isn't it
20:00:48 <Brunius> Back when Kaleb was level 3
20:00:57 <Ballig> season 3, number 16
20:00:57 <Brunius> There's a season 2 incarnation
20:01:00 <Mekkis> Ballig, Darkwhite ran it about ten time
20:01:00 <Ballig> ahh
20:01:01 <Mekkis> s
20:01:03 <Ballig> but it's renumbered
20:01:10 <Brunius> For VCs and 4-star GMs only
20:01:10 <Ballig> so you can replay it, can't you?
20:01:14 <Brunius> Dunno
20:01:14 <Mekkis> nope
20:01:21 <Mort-> Oh dear
20:01:50 <Mort-> I need to level khaz :(
20:01:59 <Mort-> Mort is 5
20:02:20 <Ballig> seems to me like if it's renumbered you can replay it
20:02:22 <Ballig> why else renumber it
20:02:56 <Mekkis> because it used to be 2-EX
20:03:10 <Ballig> so
20:04:12 <Brunius> so
20:07:30 <Mort-> One scenario 2 xp?
20:07:32 <Mort-> Wow so cool
20:07:35 <Mort-> But why lol
20:07:42 <Mekkis> what?
20:08:04 <Mort-> What 2 ex?
20:08:06 <Ballig> Mort-: no
20:08:16 <Ballig> the scenario was numbered as "2-EX"
20:08:35 <Mort-> Ok
20:08:40 <Mort-> Then?
20:09:34 <Ballig> as far as Im aware, the "-EX" scenarios are ones that can only be run by certain people
20:09:41 <Ballig> it's now been made into a regular season 3 scenario
20:09:45 <Mort-> What do you mean
20:09:50 <Mort-> I really don't understand
20:10:11 <Ballig> it was a special scenario
20:10:13 <Ballig> it's now a regular scenario
20:11:40 <Mort-> Ok
20:11:50 <Mort-> Easy matter. If mek wants to play
20:12:00 <Mort-> Quiz him on the scenario
20:12:03 <Ballig> he's playing it with his regular group instead
20:12:10 <Mort-> If he can't remember enough he can
20:12:13 <Mort-> His choice
20:12:16 <Ballig> he hasn't played it
20:12:25 <Mort-> But its a special?
20:12:35 * Mort- gulps
20:12:36 <Mekkis> not a special
20:12:49 <Ballig> it's not a special scenario anymore
20:12:52 <Mort-> I don't feel overly uber you know :p
20:12:59 <Ballig> and you can't really do the "quiz someone, if they don't remember much they can replay it" thing in PFS
20:13:11 <Mort-> :(
20:13:11 <Ballig> it's not "a special"
20:13:14 <Ballig> it was just a scenario that could only be run by certain people before
20:13:16 <Ballig> now it can be run by anyone
20:13:20 * Mort- twitches
20:13:34 <Mort-> Ah the whole thing is confusing me
20:13:40 <Ballig> then stp thinking about it
20:13:55 <Mort-> But yes. Some scenarios are harder them then others
20:14:05 <Mort-> Now where was my scroll of dismissal?
20:14:14 * Brunius burns the scroll he found on the floor
20:14:15 <Mort-> Bit broke though
20:14:29 <Mort-> Just got myself me headband
20:14:43 <Mort-> Nah i never bought it
20:16:30 <Brunius> bad luck, it's getgtging burned anhyway
20:17:04 <Mort-> Lol
20:17:15 <Mort-> That was my scroll of explosive runes
20:17:20 <Mort-> Your burning that?
20:17:26 * Mort- takes cover
20:17:46 <Mekkis> Brunius, have you scheduled Sniper in the Deep again?
20:17:52 <Mekkis> s/again/yet/
20:18:12 <Brunius> I can't schedule stuff on the site, I don't think
20:18:27 <Mort-> Ask someone to do it for ye
20:20:13 <Brunius> Avatar, Ballig? April 1st, 1pm, if that's ok
20:20:29 <Ballig> you can't schedule stuff on the site
20:20:37 <Ballig> but we need to work out if you're running a game or if I'm running CoTE
20:20:40 <Ballig> as the first sunday Mekkis will be available
20:20:42 <Brunius> Ah, yes.
20:21:47 * Mort- looks for her pirate hbt
20:21:48 <Mort-> Hat
20:21:50 * Mort- will skip the eye patch
20:22:10 <Brunius> Mort-, all PLAYERS are required to wear an eyepatch.
20:22:22 <Mort-> Lol
20:22:34 <Mekkis> Brunius, I'll put my eyepatch on my webcam
20:22:42 <Mort-> It will give 20 percent miss chance due to concealment!
20:22:44 <Avatar> I will wear a bandana instead
20:22:44 <Mort-> Ah ok
20:22:52 <Brunius> Players, not characters.
20:22:56 <Mort-> Ok
20:22:57 <Avatar> oh
20:23:01 <Avatar> I don't own an eyepatch
20:23:06 <Brunius> Get one.
20:23:07 <Mort-> Get one
20:23:10 <Mort-> Or make one
20:23:11 <Avatar> where do they sell them
20:23:14 <Mort-> Easy. Black paper
20:23:17 <Brunius> Pirate stores.
20:23:18 <Brunius> Duh.
20:23:23 <Avatar> I don't know if I've got that level of commitment
20:23:31 <Mort-> Tie a string across
20:23:40 <Brunius> I'm kidding, actually.
20:23:41 <Brunius> I think.
20:25:03 <Mort-> Bandana sounds cool
20:25:06 <Mort-> Your character?
20:29:38 <War_Wrecker> Just taking my time to make my elf magus
20:29:42 <War_Wrecker> And doing other stuff
20:30:15 <Mort-> Have fun :d
20:30:25 <Mort-> Maybe you might meet khaz :p
20:36:38 <Mort-> Please in the name of god though be careful with your magus
20:36:43 <Mort-> they are glass cannons
20:38:32 <War_Wrecker> Don't worry
20:38:44 <War_Wrecker> I don't tend to do stupid shit that gets my characters killed
20:38:48 <War_Wrecker> Favored class is wizard
20:39:10 <War_Wrecker> In games like Paranoia and Ninja Burger I have the best KDR of anyone I know
20:39:37 <Brunius> Yay, Paranoia.
20:39:42 <War_Wrecker> Yay, teamkilling
20:39:44 <Brunius> Someone should run a Paranoia game in here
20:39:57 <Mekkis> you don't have sufficient clearance
20:40:01 <War_Wrecker> Guess how many times I had my blaster blow up within 4 clones lives?
20:40:11 <Brunius> 5?
20:40:14 <War_Wrecker> 6
20:40:17 <Mort-> Though I'm not really qualified to say what's being careful though
20:40:37 <War_Wrecker> first one lost a hand
20:40:42 <War_Wrecker> second one lost 2 hands
20:41:01 <War_Wrecker> third one managed to have it blow up yet keep a hand, then have ANOTHER ONE blow up
20:41:18 <War_Wrecker> fourth one well yeah
20:41:48 <War_Wrecker> It's more effective to hand someone the laser pistol and tell them to shoot you
20:41:49 <Avatar> I never really enjoyed paranoia
20:41:54 <War_Wrecker> Which I did once
20:42:02 <War_Wrecker> Their loss
20:46:31 <Mort-> How do you play your wizard really
20:46:31 <Mort-> Curious
20:47:14 <War_Wrecker> Poorly
20:47:21 <War_Wrecker> I blame DMs
20:47:45 <War_Wrecker> What kind of DM's? They kind that run Paranoia and ninjaburger.
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20:47:48 <Mort-> You said favoured class wizard?
20:48:20 <War_Wrecker> Yeah, as in every time I have a group ready to play D&D, I'm playing wizard
20:48:27 <War_Wrecker> And then it falls apart by the second session
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20:49:08 <War_Wrecker> I don't really get to play D&D much
20:50:15 <Mort-> Wizards are fine
20:50:24 <Mort-> I'm a caster type myself
20:50:38 <War_Wrecker> I like being able to cast spells
20:51:01 <Mort-> Same
20:52:11 <War_Wrecker> Are elves incapable of growing facial hair in the world of path finder?
20:52:56 <Avatar> don't think anyone would care
20:54:37 * Mort- thinks war wrecker might be better off sorc
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20:55:33 <War_Wrecker> Possibly
20:55:58 <War_Wrecker> I like wizard in most editions, monk in 1st, swordmage in 4th
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20:56:21 <Mort-> You give up something somewhere
20:56:23 <War_Wrecker> Although that's mostly just because I have an asshole of a friend who always picks wizard
20:56:29 <Mort-> Nothing comes free
20:56:40 <War_Wrecker> The fact that he always rolls a wizard isn't what makes him an asshole
20:56:49 <War_Wrecker> The fact that he's an asshole and a wizard is the problem
20:57:06 <Mort-> Convince him to be less of one
20:57:11 <Mort-> Suggest diplomacy
20:57:12 <War_Wrecker> Currently banned from all RP events
20:57:19 <War_Wrecker> Tried it
20:57:29 <War_Wrecker> He's a powertripping munchkin
20:57:30 <Mort-> What did he do lol
20:57:43 <Mort-> Don't we all optimize to some extent?
20:57:51 <War_Wrecker> Not min-maxing
20:57:54 <War_Wrecker> Power tripping
20:57:59 <Mort-> I say we have the right to go to hell in our own way
20:58:02 <Mort-> Explain
20:58:07 <War_Wrecker> As in socially
20:58:18 <Mort-> What do you mean
20:58:26 <War_Wrecker> Like "i use charm person on the blacksmithes daughter and ask her out"
20:58:38 <Mort-> That's great!
20:58:43 <War_Wrecker> On the 3rd time the DM lets the blacksmith kill him
20:58:46 <War_Wrecker> He does this at level 1
20:58:55 <Mort-> Now why didn't i do that to that handsome hunk out there :p
20:58:56 <War_Wrecker> With no charisma
20:59:01 <Mort-> He should learn
20:59:07 <Mort-> But its funny anyway
20:59:10 <War_Wrecker> Then he tries to start a bar fight
20:59:13 <War_Wrecker> And punches people
20:59:20 <Mort-> Great job!
20:59:22 <War_Wrecker> While attempting to cast spells
20:59:23 <Mort-> Lol
20:59:28 <War_Wrecker> Before we have a main quest
20:59:30 <War_Wrecker> As a wizard
20:59:35 <Mort-> My party started a bar fight
20:59:41 <Mort-> I was dragged in :(
20:59:42 <War_Wrecker> Because naturally burning hands will kill everyone in the bar
20:59:45 <War_Wrecker> Except that it won't
20:59:53 <War_Wrecker> And then you get stabbed and you die
20:59:57 <Mort-> 1d4 is too little damage
21:00:07 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
21:00:09 <Mort-> He should learn from that as well
21:00:18 <War_Wrecker> He doesn't make the same mistake twice
21:00:24 <War_Wrecker> But he always does this shit all the time
21:00:31 <Mort-> So what was next
21:00:46 <War_Wrecker> In ninjaburger he attempts to "loot" everything
21:00:49 <Mort-> I'm sure he will eventually run out of things to do ^^
21:01:01 <War_Wrecker> With the excuse that "he's a ninja"
21:01:02 <Mort-> Pvp incident i guess :d
21:01:12 <War_Wrecker> He doesn't get in PvP incidents
21:01:16 <War_Wrecker> I get in PvP incidents
21:01:21 <Mort-> Why?
21:01:23 <War_Wrecker> I provoke people out of game
21:01:26 <War_Wrecker> And they attack me in game
21:01:28 <War_Wrecker> And I win
21:01:29 <Mort-> If someone was
21:01:38 <Mort-> Irritating me
21:01:41 <Mort-> Well yeah
21:01:49 <War_Wrecker> He gets kicked out before anyone attacks him
21:01:59 <Mort-> No pvp in pfs btw
21:02:00 <War_Wrecker> Also we try not to make things worse by attackhing him
21:02:03 <War_Wrecker> I read
21:02:10 <Mort-> But generally there should be no reason to
21:02:18 <War_Wrecker> No there shouldn't be
21:02:26 <Mort-> Besides faction missions normally everyone is pretty friendly
21:02:37 <Mekkis> Deceased "collateral damage" would disagree
21:02:46 <Mort-> Don't insult anyones mount or animal companions though
21:02:51 <War_Wrecker> If I can play a game
21:02:54 <Mort-> Its because you have bad aim ^^
21:02:58 <War_Wrecker> Without getting attacked simply because I AM STILL ALIVE
21:03:04 <War_Wrecker> Then I will be happy
21:03:12 <War_Wrecker> It's the GAME MASTERS JOB TO PUNISH ME FOR NOT DYING
21:03:14 <War_Wrecker> NOT THE PLAYERS
21:03:34 <War_Wrecker> "Oh he hasn't even taken damage yet"
21:03:37 <War_Wrecker> "I shoot him"
21:03:49 <Mekkis> damn
21:04:02 <Mekkis> when I GM, I'm doing it wrong
21:04:23 <War_Wrecker> What, you don't just randomly kill off party members for lolz?
21:04:41 <Mekkis> no
21:04:51 <Mekkis> my dice tend to do it even if I'm not trying
21:05:15 <Mort-> But seriously i always wanted to ask about colleteral damage
21:05:28 <Mort-> That bar fight ^^
21:05:36 <Mort-> Example number 1
21:05:46 <Mort-> Oh well actually good came out of it :p
21:06:36 <War_Wrecker> Oh yeah, this asshat?
21:06:42 <War_Wrecker> During a character creation
21:07:00 <War_Wrecker> Where we would RP our characters quickly through the first years of their life to about level 4 in 20 years or so
21:07:11 <War_Wrecker> This guy went for 80 years
21:07:13 <War_Wrecker> To level 8
21:07:29 <War_Wrecker> And got horribly crippled twice
21:07:46 <War_Wrecker> And had the entire ruling faction hunting for his head
21:07:54 <War_Wrecker> Before the first session
21:08:00 <Mort-> If he is an elf he has tons more to go
21:08:38 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
21:08:41 <War_Wrecker> if that game was running
21:08:44 <War_Wrecker> Which it never did
21:08:52 <War_Wrecker> It might have if we hadn't invited asshat
21:09:10 <Mort-> Urm
21:09:21 <Mort-> id still go take whatever that comes
21:09:58 <War_Wrecker> Yeah I'm joining everything I can
21:10:02 <War_Wrecker> but not getting him involved
21:10:11 <War_Wrecker> Everytime we've given him a chance
21:10:17 <War_Wrecker> He's ruined everything like a selfish brat
21:10:48 <War_Wrecker> Yes I know a lot of what he's done sounds like inspired roleplaying
21:11:01 <War_Wrecker> Except it's not inspired roleplaying if you do it in a counter productive manner
21:11:09 <Mort-> I say i would still run the campaign
21:11:13 <Mort-> Take what comes
21:11:15 <War_Wrecker> I'd run the campaign
21:11:18 <War_Wrecker> If I could
21:11:29 <War_Wrecker> Shame none of the players want to play it because the asshat is in it
21:12:11 <Mort-> I rarely comment about peoples choices
21:12:15 <Mort-> They should be huntinp him and not the entire party
21:12:15 <Mort-> Just say some assasins took him out
21:12:19 <Mort-> Matter settled. Don't invite him to next one
21:12:46 <War_Wrecker> Exactly
21:12:53 <War_Wrecker> The campaigns never failed because he was in them
21:13:03 <War_Wrecker> They failed because they ran 2 sessions with him in them
21:13:16 <War_Wrecker> And then players got turned off the idea of playing the game
21:13:29 <War_Wrecker> And then we'd try to run a 3 person game
21:13:38 <War_Wrecker> And give up because you need 3 players AND a GM really
21:13:48 <Mort-> Oh so not enough people
21:13:53 <Mort-> Happens
21:14:12 <War_Wrecker> If we had enough people we'd never invite him in the first place
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22:11:47 <Mort-> Ah got rescued
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22:58:42 <Mekkis> Brunius_, want to try and run Sniper on a Saturday then
23:02:53 <Mort-> Ill see myz soon?
23:03:05 * Mort- eyes open with wonder
23:03:12 <Mort-> Can i moon over him? :p
23:03:17 <Mort-> Lol
23:03:42 <Mort-> Its like every scenario. Mort will enlarge jerus at least once
23:03:47 <Mort-> Then hide behind him
23:14:19 <Mekkis> m
23:15:50 <War_Wrecker> Well my path finder character is done
23:16:01 <War_Wrecker> Just poke me if you have room for a scrub
23:18:53 <War_Wrecker> I joined this channel almost a year ago, maybe more, with the intent to play. However I never had the time until now, in Uni ironically.
23:22:19 <Mort-> But mort is scawed
23:22:21 <Mort-> Lol
23:22:28 <Mort-> She doesn't like monsters
23:22:43 <Mort-> Please don't let the monsters get her :(
23:22:51 <Mort-> You posted?
23:23:31 <Mort-> I think you need get avatar to open a slot on dnd.ballig
23:23:40 <Mort-> Anyway can i look at your sheet?
23:24:17 <War_Wrecker> Haven't posted yet
23:24:33 <Mekkis> what state are you in?
23:24:35 <War_Wrecker> Still the classic 2 problems of starting spells and inventory
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23:24:41 <War_Wrecker> Still a text document
23:24:48 <War_Wrecker> But everything else is done
23:25:27 <War_Wrecker> In my experience starting spells and starting shops are always things that should be worked on in game.
23:25:45 <Mekkis> that's not the case
23:25:53 <Mekkis> they're called "starting spells" for a reason
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23:26:16 <Mekkis> by the time you're in-game, it's too late
23:26:32 <Mort-> Magus?
23:26:50 * Mort- stares at war_wrecker
23:26:56 <War_Wrecker> yup
23:29:04 * Mort- sighs
23:29:15 <Mort-> Why don't you tell me all about it
23:29:22 <Mort-> Or post your sheet somewhere
23:30:55 <Mekkis> maguses are hard
23:31:08 <War_Wrecker> Elf Magus spire defender, final atts of 14 16 10 16 10 13
23:31:40 <Mekkis> wearing a mask most of the time?
23:32:01 <War_Wrecker> ?
23:32:15 <Mekkis> mordent spire elves
23:32:33 <Mekkis> they're extremely secluded, and wear large wooden face-masks most of the time
23:32:43 <Mort-> Nice dex and int
23:32:55 <Mort-> Weapon choice?
23:33:00 <War_Wrecker> Con could be higher I know, but I'm tired of putting 12 into con
23:33:03 <War_Wrecker> Probably a rapier
23:33:21 <War_Wrecker> Traits are watching taldor and shiv
23:33:41 <Mort-> You know your going to the front line
23:33:52 <War_Wrecker> Yup
23:33:59 <Mort-> Ask mek what happened to his pally :(
23:34:06 <Mort-> Your a d8 class
23:34:11 <War_Wrecker> For once I'd like to have some charisma
23:34:40 <War_Wrecker> I am aware of the risks of not taking 12 con
23:34:49 <War_Wrecker> Or 14
23:35:17 <Mort-> Ah i see
23:35:25 <War_Wrecker> ?
23:35:27 <Mort-> I think i know where you are coming from
23:35:46 <War_Wrecker> Which is?
23:35:46 <Mort-> Exotic weapon proficiency scorpion whip?
23:35:59 <War_Wrecker> I don't know yet
23:36:03 <War_Wrecker> I've been busy all day
23:36:15 <War_Wrecker> But yeah its an idea to go for a martial/exotic 1 handed weapon
23:36:24 <War_Wrecker> Take advantage of the spire defender
23:36:27 <Mort-> You can't wear armor
23:36:30 <War_Wrecker> I didn't exactly check the list of weapons
23:36:32 <Mort-> And cast
23:36:34 <Mort-> Btw
23:36:47 <Mort-> If you want to stay out of the fight yet still melee
23:36:54 <Mort-> Whips are the way to go
23:37:05 <Mort-> Your constitution won't hurt you that much
23:37:29 <Mort-> But normal whips will not harm anything with 1 or greater on natural armor
23:37:42 <Mort-> So. Scorpion whips are the way to go
23:37:58 <War_Wrecker> Well that sounds awesome then
23:38:11 <Mort-> You could have some fun with it
23:38:28 <Mort-> You look like your setting up for a tripping magus
23:38:30 <War_Wrecker> And I can wear armor at level 7
23:38:35 <Mort-> No
23:38:38 <Mekkis> ಠ_ಠ
23:38:49 <War_Wrecker> According to this SRD i can
23:38:51 <War_Wrecker> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo---magus-archetypes/spire-defender
23:39:12 <War_Wrecker> Or is that not to be used as a resource?
23:39:20 <Mort-> The spire defender does not have the magus’ ability to ignore arcane spell failure from armor; however, if the spire defender becomes proficient in light armor, he automatically gains the magus’s ability to ignore the arcane spell failure chance of light armor. If he becomes proficient in medium armor, at 7th level he ignores medium armor’s chance of arcane spell failure. If he becomes proficient in heavy armor, at 13th level he ignores heavy armor’
23:39:44 <War_Wrecker> Yeah I know it's not automatic
23:39:54 <Mort-> You need to take the proficiencies
23:39:56 <War_Wrecker> But if I get the proficiency I can wear it and cast it
23:40:02 <War_Wrecker> Which I will if I want to at level 7
23:40:04 <Mort-> You will burn your feats on that?
23:40:13 <Mort-> Before 7?
23:40:14 <War_Wrecker> Probably not
23:40:32 <Mort-> You need to get light armor proficiency
23:40:36 <Mort-> Then medium
23:40:45 <Mort-> Then heavy.
23:40:47 <Mekkis> just dip fighter
23:40:48 <Mekkis> :S
23:40:59 <Mort-> Was about to suggest that
23:41:12 <Mort-> Till mek beat me to it ^^
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23:41:37 <Mekkis> or even better, dip Paladin
23:41:40 <War_Wrecker> Hmmm
23:41:49 <Mort-> He has cha for it
23:41:58 <Mekkis> but yeah, read up on mordant spire elves
23:42:04 <Mekkis> they're somewhat... weird
23:42:04 <War_Wrecker> Will do
23:42:05 <Mort-> But i hate pally alignment
23:42:10 <War_Wrecker> Oh yeah
23:42:15 <Mort-> God knows anything about elves
23:42:22 <War_Wrecker> I'm probably going to be chaotic alignment
23:42:29 <Mort-> Wait I'm a fking elf :p
23:42:33 <Mekkis> I've got Elves of Golarion
23:42:39 <Mekkis> it's full of mistakes
23:42:44 <Mort-> I personally say it would not suit magus class
23:42:49 <Mort-> But its really up to you
23:43:02 <Mort-> I keep thinking magus as nice disciplined people
23:43:21 <Mort-> Pally requires lg
23:43:32 <Mekkis> I keep thinking of magus as a shaky idea gone horribly wrong
23:43:34 <Mort-> Ok probably time to give him a crash course on spell combat
23:43:37 <Mort-> Lol
23:43:57 <Mort-> We can all go to hell in our own ways mek
23:44:20 <Mekkis> Mort-, I mean horribly wrong as far as poorly designed
23:44:38 <Mort-> I think if i were him i would pick up that scorpion whip
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23:44:45 <Mort-> Lol
23:44:49 <Avatar> the gunslinger is well designed
23:44:54 <Mekkis> really?
23:44:58 <Mort-> Was talking about you
23:45:20 <Mort-> If he is using a scorpion whip
23:45:37 <Avatar> yeah the gunslinger is sweet
23:45:39 <Mort-> He won't have to worry about concentration checks in combat probably
23:45:52 <Avatar> they could use some better rules about how gunpowder can make things explode!
23:46:33 <Mekkis> I don't know ANY d20 system that handles explosives properly
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23:46:34 <War_Wrecker_> Probably going to go with the whip
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23:46:47 <War_Wrecker> It fits perfectly
23:46:59 <Avatar> it shouldn't be that hard
23:47:00 <Mort-> Whip
23:47:13 <Avatar> x amount of black powder + fire = xd6 fireball
23:47:15 <War_Wrecker> scorpion whip
23:47:19 <Mort-> Btw you do know. You can trip with that thing?
23:47:23 <Mekkis> Avatar, you're missing the point
23:47:25 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
23:47:26 <Mort-> Do think about it.
23:47:27 <War_Wrecker> And disarm too
23:47:37 <Mort-> The potentials are very interesting
23:47:43 <Mort-> Id screw disarm
23:47:45 <Mekkis> explosives don't deal fire damage
23:47:46 <War_Wrecker> Heheheh
23:47:46 <Avatar> what am I missing
23:47:49 <Mort-> But trip has potential
23:47:55 <Avatar> well whatever
23:47:58 <Avatar> call it explosive damage
23:47:59 <War_Wrecker> I can use touch spells on a whip can't i with spell strike
23:48:00 <Mekkis> it's mainly concussive damage
23:48:10 <Mort-> When you get to level 2
23:48:19 <Avatar> what's the difference?
23:48:23 <Avatar> fireballs don't set you on fire?
23:48:24 <Mort-> What sort of touch spells do you want to use?
23:48:55 <Mort-> You do know with that trip you can do some kind of crowd control?
23:48:58 <Mekkis> if I had immunity to fire, I shouldn't be able to stand on top of a barrel of gunpowder and set it off
23:49:04 <War_Wrecker> Probably chill touch
23:49:14 <Mort-> Frostbite.
23:49:14 <War_Wrecker> For starters
23:49:19 <Mort-> It lasts longer :p
23:49:29 <Mort-> Chill touch is level 2
23:49:31 <Mekkis> and more to the point, explosives are more used to blast things - cliff faces and stuff - rather than to actually kill people with the explosion
23:49:32 <Mort-> One shot only
23:49:47 <Mort-> You only get level 2 spells at 4 i think
23:49:53 <Mort-> Eh?
23:49:55 <Mort-> Oh wait
23:50:02 <Mort-> Sorry mixed up frigid touch
23:50:23 <Mort-> Chill touch was the one that drained strength right?
23:50:40 <Mort-> Personally i prefer frostbite
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23:51:28 <War_Wrecker> Yeah frostbite seems nice
23:51:37 <Mort-> Gives fatigue :d
23:51:52 <Mort-> Lethal or non lethal it all adds up
23:52:02 <Mort-> But listen!
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23:52:11 <Mort-> You have cantrips!
23:52:19 <War_Wrecker> acid splash
23:52:22 <War_Wrecker> poke
23:52:32 <Mort-> Why is everyone poking :(
23:52:48 <Mort-> You know what i was pointing at?
23:52:51 <Mort-> Daze!
23:53:08 <Mort-> Trip one guy, daze his buddy!
23:53:25 <War_Wrecker> Crowd control?
23:53:32 <War_Wrecker> Of course there is my FAVORITE cantrip
23:53:40 <War_Wrecker> Which will work wonderfully with a whip for tripping
23:53:42 <War_Wrecker> GREASE
23:53:52 <Mekkis> it's not a cantrip
23:53:53 <Mort-> Yeah
23:53:54 <Mekkis> never has been
23:54:07 <Mort-> Why is everyone all about grease though
23:54:09 <War_Wrecker> d'oh
23:54:12 <War_Wrecker> still
23:54:16 <Mort-> Seriously.
23:54:17 <War_Wrecker> Grease is great
23:54:28 <Mort-> I don't use that stuff
23:54:40 <Mort-> Oh just for a bit of fun once you hit level 3
23:55:00 <Mort-> Do you know with spell combat you can get 2 attacks per round? Sort of
23:55:17 <Mort-> I don't grease anyone
23:57:18 <Mort-> I don't see the point of grease much since monsters have decent saves on reflex usually
23:57:36 * Mort- personally prefers colour spray
23:59:13 <War_Wrecker> How much is the magus bonus spells prepared per day?
23:59:24 <War_Wrecker> int mod or half int mod?
23:59:49 <Mort-> See the page
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