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01:27 <Mekkis> here's a question for you then
01:40 <Spaceshot> shoot
01:54 <Mekkis> did Rogue/Assassin work like that in 2009, when I started making Mytiazair?
02:14 <Spaceshot> are you assassin?
02:41 <Mekkis> answer the question
03:27 <Spaceshot> I don't believe I can, since you technically can't be an assassin in PFS
03:37 <Mekkis> PFS follows pathfinder rules
03:46 <Spaceshot> you can't be evil
03:51 <Mekkis> yes
03:52 <Spaceshot> that's a pretty big requirement
04:14 <Mekkis> but in 2009, in Pathfinder rules, you could play rogue 1 / wizard 4 / assassin 1 / arcane trickster
04:16 <Mekkis> no problem
04:37 <Spaceshot> so you could be evil?
04:40 <Mekkis> sure
04:50 <Mekkis> Pathfinder has no restriction against evil PCs
04:51 <Avatar> bet that went down well
05:01 <Spaceshot> we aren't talking about pathfinder
05:05 <Spaceshot> we're talking about PFS
05:15 <Mekkis> in 2010, when APG was released, did Rogue/Master spy work like that?
07:32 <Spaceshot> I'd really like to be able to take my time machine out for a spin and check to be certain
07:38 <Spaceshot> but it's in the shop
08:36 <Avatar> you can buy just about anything in melbourne
09:35 <Spaceshot> yup
12:22 <Spaceshot> hu, I supposedly count as my own ally
25:37 <Hydrazine> well. I would hope you're not your own (worst) enemy.
26:42 <Spaceshot> haha
27:06 <Spaceshot> but seriously, whenever something says your ally/allies it means you and your ally/allies
27:16 <Spaceshot> unless it specifically doesn't make sense to target yourself
27:44 <Spaceshot> means I could of used Divine Interference
53:12 <mort-> Night all
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54:02 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Fri 7pm (Ballig, new game) / Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
54:02 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Mar  8 18:23:36 2012
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51:33 <Mort-> Hello all i guess
53:53 <MekkisScreen> gyou. can't
55:01 <tristen> morning
55:15 <Brunius> Yeah
55:17 <Brunius> Just saw
55:27 <Brunius> No reach weapons that are one handed?
55:36 <Mort-> Except whip
55:45 <Mort-> I made a study of one handed weapons
55:46 <MekkisScreen> whip isn't really a reach weapon
55:49 <Mort-> Extensively
56:15 <Mort-> Well you can technically deliver a spell strike and spell combat through your whip
56:32 <Mort-> The problem is at natural armor 1
56:38 <Mort-> You don't do any damage
56:50 <Mort-> But never mind. :d
56:51 <MekkisScreen> scorpian whip then
57:03 <Mort-> Exotic weapon
57:08 <Mort-> Most who do that route
57:16 <Mort-> Are expert trippers
57:33 <Mort-> They abuse true strike wands
58:21 <MekkisScreen> I don't see true strike as abuse
59:31 <Mort-> Lol
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59:46 <Brunius> You don't see Summoner as abuse, either.
59:55 <Spaceshot> hahaha
59:57 <Mort-> Its like every hit will trip with wand wielder
00:11 <Mort-> Come on. I would abuse it if i felt happy to
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00:24 <Mort-> But anyway i wouldn't go whip route
00:26 <MekkisScreen> I don't see why my views should dictate how others play
00:28 <Mort-> So not my style
00:28 <Spaceshot> to him synthesist is a fair and balanced archetype
00:51 <Mort-> I just don't feel good going around in a whip
00:53 <MekkisScreen> I'd like you to adopt the same views
01:08 <tristen> whips provoke too
01:17 <Mort-> If i played a hybrid i want to hack and slash in a melee
01:20 <Mort-> Not exactly
01:40 <Mort-> The whole whip thing gave me a bit of a head ache
01:51 <MekkisScreen> a whip is really a ranged attack in disguise
01:56 <Mort-> You don't exactly threaten
02:12 <Mort-> The squares you can reach into
03:20 <Mort-> I'm one of the last people who will comment on what's broken and what's not :p
03:47 <Mort-> My opinion is we can all go to hell in our own way :d
03:52 <MekkisScreen> Actually Summoner (including synthesist) has the advantage that if it's broken at one level, it's easy to unbreak the next level
04:35 <MekkisScreen> and Spaceshot: if you haven't realised, experience has a lot more to do with things that just looking at something "on-paper"
06:21 <Spaceshot> heh
06:45 <Spaceshot> I'm trying to think of my third character (thwang is a little eh, don't want to be oskar v2)
07:06 <Spaceshot> even though in the long run, flurry of Bows will be better than oskar XD
08:07 <Mort-> Yeah
08:24 <Mort-> Its a sobering experience when you actually start meleeing
08:54 <Mort-> Mostly hydra does it for me though
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09:59 <Spaceshot> whenever I look at a class now I always go straight for the archetypes :P
09:59 * Mort- grinz
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10:16 <Mort-> I tried to understand hexcrafter
10:29 <Mort-> But it just unraveled my brains
10:35 <Spaceshot> hexcrafter is awesome
10:47 <Spaceshot> you get to fly :P
10:47 <Mort-> And no i don't like intelligent items
10:56 <Mort-> I can fly fine
11:01 <Mort-> Without help
11:24 <Mort-> If there is decent dps in party id probably just swing my sword scenario round
11:47 <Mort-> Deal with the odd invis critter
13:13 <Mort-> And ah...relax
15:12 <Mort-> If high level fights end in 2 rounds. Why do you even buff.
16:24 <Spaceshot> you buff so that the fight ends in 2 rounds
16:30 <Spaceshot> we had time to buff before combat
18:12 <Mort-> Lol
18:29 <Mort-> Too used to getting caught with pants down
18:44 <Mort-> Having to buff in combat
18:48 <Hydrazine> LOL
18:58 <Hydrazine> I melee for you? Guess so. Must be time to make a caster.
19:38 <Spaceshot> heh
19:44 <Spaceshot> casters can be fun
19:56 <Spaceshot> just make sure you don roll a sorc/cleric/wiz/druid
20:03 <Mort-> Please hydra!
20:05 <Spaceshot> play something that isn't already spammed XD
20:21 * Mort- gives hydra puppy eyes
20:50 <Mort-> You wouldn't leave me to face the monsters alone would you? :(
21:37 <Hydrazine> lol.
21:49 <Hydrazine> why can't i roll any of the 4 core casting classes?
21:59 <Mort-> Nooo!
22:02 <Mort-> Lol kidding
22:08 <Mort-> I can melee i guess
22:16 <Mort-> Just that i fall over pretty easily
22:20 <Hydrazine> but if I made a caster, he'd kick ass.
22:26 <Mort-> You got all that fancy plate :(
22:35 <Spaceshot> hydra it's because they are just bullshitly OP because they have awesome spell casting
22:37 <Mort-> I think you would be sorc
22:41 <Spaceshot> or in the druids form, is a fucking druid
22:54 <Mort-> You say you have no luck with wizards haha
23:04 <Spaceshot> what level is jerus now?
23:16 <Hydrazine> I think druid and pure wizard are tied for my least played 3.5 core classes.
23:17 <Mort-> 2?
23:19 <Hydrazine> 2.6
23:24 <Mort-> Yeah
23:40 <Hydrazine> I could do a sorc.
23:42 <Spaceshot> so 1 left to hit level 3?
23:46 <Hydrazine> I kinda miss my warmage.
23:48 <Hydrazine> Yes, Space.
23:54 <Spaceshot> nice, Ava is now level 3 XD
24:08 <Spaceshot> might be hugging your back soon
24:38 <Mort-> Lol
24:54 <Spaceshot> there was no hugging in RBT I'll give you that, but ava could hit things then
24:54 <Mort-> Don't roll any more characters till we level up some
25:05 <Spaceshot> need to wait a couple more levels before I can hit things
25:09 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: because Spaceshot likes telling you what you should do
25:14 <Spaceshot> haha
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25:27 <Spaceshot> it's more that I'd like to see a variety in classes we have here
25:29 <Mort-> Anything for a healer...
25:43 <Mort-> Already sold my soul to heal :p
25:45 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot: I don't care about variety of classes
25:46 <Spaceshot> heh
25:48 <Mort-> Not complaining who shows up
25:52 <MekkisScreen> I care about variety of characters
26:07 <Spaceshot> meh
26:09 <Spaceshot> each to their own
26:24 <Mort-> I seriously can't imagine khaz in a tavern
26:35 <MekkisScreen> he was in one last Friday
26:41 <MekkisScreen> getting beaten up by a bard
26:43 <Mort-> He is a book worm and dislikes social occasions
26:47 <Spaceshot> also mort, I'd be tempted to make a blackblade kensai, either going dervish dancer or just straight katana
26:50 <Mort-> It was a ware house
26:58 <Mort-> Wasn't it?
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27:05 <MekkisScreen> I used the Seaside Tavern map
27:08 <Spaceshot> was the bard actually a BDD?
27:12 <Mort-> Well.
27:16 <MekkisScreen> no
27:18 <Mort-> When we did the rng
27:23 <MekkisScreen> yes
27:27 <Mort-> It was a ware house
27:33 <Mort-> But that's different
27:35 <MekkisScreen> but then you chouldn't load the warehouse map
27:41 <Mort-> That's for having a good thine
27:44 <Mort-> I see
27:47 <Mort-> Not dancing 
27:58 <Mort-> Uqm. Maybe dancing of a different sort
28:03 <Mort-> But no.
28:10 <Mort-> Not everyone is a social animal.
28:21 <Mort-> I believe book worms have their place
28:24 <Mort-> Since I'm one
28:35 <Spaceshot> isn't khaz your magus though?
29:14 <Mort-> Yes
29:32 <Mort-> There is no law saying magus can't be book worms
29:54 <Mort-> Essentially the class guide says you bounce between the library and the weapon yard
30:08 <Mort-> That would leave you with not much free time to do anything else ^^
30:15 <Mort-> That's how i read it.
30:31 <Mort-> And 7 for cha would so screw any social life you have
30:33 <Spaceshot> eh I was just wondering XD
30:50 <Mort-> Anyway. He would probably dance well (14 dex)
30:59 <Mort-> If anyone could convince him to
34:26 <Mort-> Which would be funny as heck
34:44 <Mort-> But anyway i don't think we would get to play it out
34:58 <Mort-> Doesn't usually crop up in scenarios :(
39:56 <Mort-> Anyway
40:01 <Mort-> Mekkis!
40:16 <Mort-> What does grolsh do in his free time :d
52:38 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: much of his time away from the Pathfinder Society is spent in active service to teh Andoran Eagle Knights
52:51 <Mort-> Ah i see
53:10 <MekkisScreen> although he often "prays" (ie drinks) at the local temple of Cayden Caelian
53:36 <Mort-> Nah. Khaz goes back home now and then to keep an eye on the spice business
53:49 <MekkisScreen> and spends time in the forests of andoran
53:52 <Mort-> But his brother does a good job so not much to complain about
54:11 <MekkisScreen> (sometimes skewering lumber consortium members)
54:16 <Mort-> Pick up a few little odd jobs from his homeland but yes
54:19 <MekkisScreen> he also is an avid gardener
54:19 <Mort-> No!
54:23 <Mort-> Haha
54:29 <Mort-> That's funny as heck
54:40 <MekkisScreen> a Professional Gardener
54:42 <MekkisScreen> actually
54:42 <Mort-> Avid book worm
54:45 <Mort-> Lol
54:55 <MekkisScreen> (he even has Profession(Gardener)
54:59 <Mort-> Haha
55:06 <Mort-> I just did craft one point
55:06 <MekkisScreen> with his masterwork seceturs
55:19 <MekkisScreen> (sp)
55:53 <Mort-> Id craft weird objects here and there
56:20 <Mort-> But yes book worms ftw
56:35 <Mort-> Maybe i should read up on the fiends in hell
56:38 <Mort-> :d
57:16 <Mort-> How many are there
57:24 <MekkisScreen> planning on binding?
58:11 <Mort-> No
58:23 <Mort-> Which one i should be bound t
58:24 <Mort-> To
58:29 <Mort-> Heh
58:35 <Mort-> Probably he won't loom
58:36 <Mort-> Know
58:48 <MekkisScreen> maybe he should travel to Cheliax
58:50 <Mort-> But at least lets have a look ^^
58:55 <Mort-> Nah
59:11 <Mort-> He came. He offered. Khaz accepted
59:16 <Mort-> Don't need locations
59:23 <Mort-> They are always around.
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03:49 <Mort-> Hydra :d
03:58 <Hydrazine> hm?
03:59 <Mort-> Testone please
04:16 <Mort-> :d
14:48 <MekkisScreen> bbbcbbccbcbcbbbbcccccb
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19:29 tristen is now known as Oskar
24:29 <Hydrazine> yo
25:43 <Mort-> Hi
27:02 <MekkisScreen> moin
27:18 * Mort- fluffs oskar
28:45 <Oskar> hullo
28:57 <Oskar> oskar bagged a nice boon at the tournament
29:09 <Oskar> he's now level 3
29:34 <Oskar> and he's got a nice 1d20+7 to disarm
29:35 <Hydrazine> cool.
29:38 <Hydrazine> wow hes going fast.
29:47 <Oskar> yeah 3xp from the tourney
29:51 <Hydrazine> i need to getjerus up to 3.
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30:06 <Oskar> hey we need to finish first steps 3
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30:26 <Oskar> i vote that just you and me finish it
30:29 <mort-> Lol
30:36 <mort-> Avatar not around
30:52 Oskar is now known as tristen
31:00 <tristen> no he's probably asleep...
32:08 <Avatar> I'm here
32:12 <tristen> hey!
32:18 <Avatar> yo
32:19 <mort-> Wobg
32:31 <mort-> Lol
32:32 <mort-> Wow
32:40 <mort-> Hydra lol,
32:54 <tristen> avatar and hydra: do you guys want to finish off that first steps 3?
33:00 <tristen> it'll probably take half an hour
33:08 <tristen> or an hour maybe...tops
33:22 <Hydrazine> Who was I for it? Hoku?
33:26 <tristen> yep
33:29 <Avatar> need more than just you two
33:54 <tristen> i dunno if those younglings will be coming back
33:59 <Avatar> will run it when we have hydra, jaggedsoul and maybe phly in the same place
34:08 <Avatar> preebitz is too unreliable to wait for
34:09 <tristen> oh did jagged start it?
34:10 <mort-> Lol
34:10 <mort-> Its funny
34:13 <mort-> The finishing
34:31 <tristen> last i saw of phly he rage-quit lol
34:36 * mort- lays some money on the table
34:39 <tristen> has he been back in?
35:02 <Avatar> he's been on skype
35:09 <Avatar> he just said he oculdn't come in this weekend because of gf stuff
35:11 <tristen> ok so he can be collared
35:15 <tristen> yep
35:29 <mort-> Not i said the mur
35:55 <tristen> mort you shoulda seen the arrows fly
36:03 <tristen> the air was thick with arrows
36:38 <tristen> IT WAS GLORIOUS
37:02 <mort-> I no skype
37:04 <tristen> the crowd went mental!
37:05 <mort-> I working mur
37:14 <mort-> Lol
37:27 <mort-> How many arrows did you get in the air at one point of time
37:42 <tristen> up to 6 if i put my mind to it
37:44 <mort-> I really suck for damage on khaz
37:46 <mort-> Lol
37:54 <mort-> I can get maybe 3 sword swings?
38:01 <tristen> i wish in retrospect i took more risks
38:07 <mort-> I can't be novaing all round long
38:09 <mort-> Actually no
38:15 <mort-> I'm a careful sort
38:23 <mort-> Dying happens but i rather it doesn't
38:38 <tristen> yeah you know how i said i have to be careful?
38:40 <Hydrazine> sounds like Jerus would be fine for that tourney, Tris.
38:40 <tristen> i was
38:45 <mort-> Said the wizard who went to douse ghouls with holy water
38:47 <tristen> but i was too careful
39:06 <tristen> jerus AND hoku would have loved it
39:09 <mort-> You should be
39:10 <Brunius> tristen: Pack potions of Remove Blindness/Deafness in future
39:14 <Avatar> IT WILL BE GLORIOUS
39:16 <Hydrazine> jerus would be smashing all kinds of shit.
39:32 <tristen> brun i know!
39:37 <tristen> twice i got blinded
39:46 <mort-> Id be feeling out classed i think
39:56 <tristen> i was showboating too much...
39:57 <mort-> If i were them. It wouldn't be blind
40:10 <mort-> It'd be hideous laughter :p
40:14 <Hydrazine> showboating huh?
40:16 <mort-> Show boating?
40:20 <tristen> yeah big style
40:21 <mort-> What that?
40:25 <tristen> showing off
40:43 <mort-> Like. I have 6 arrows up in the air? :p
41:04 <tristen> yeah that sort of thing - and i won't put any spoilers here
41:11 <mort-> Naughty archers like you should be disintegrated :p
41:21 <mort-> Again you would reflex save :(
41:29 <mort-> Wrong line :p
41:30 <Hydrazine> hey tris.
41:34 <mort-> :d
41:38 <Hydrazine> how many smashes do you think a high end jerus can pull in a round?
41:41 * mort- fluffs
41:49 <tristen> yup?
41:55 <mort-> How much is your base damage
41:56 <tristen> hasted?
42:13 <tristen> four or five?
42:17 <mort-> You will get 3 attacks normally per round
42:21 <mort-> Haste gives 4
42:33 <mort-> Jerus average per swing 50?
42:42 <Hydrazine> more i think.
42:46 <mort-> Or more?
42:46 <Hydrazine> er, more swings,
42:55 <mort-> I estimad a monster has 100gq
42:56 <mort-> Hp
42:56 <Hydrazine> not more raw damage. i haven't done any math for that yet.
43:19 <mort-> I say per swing if you connect you do 50 damage
43:27 <mort-> Is that a good estimate?
43:30 <tristen> wow that's GOT to hurt
43:40 <Brunius> Hmm
43:47 <Brunius> I wonder if there's a cutlass anywhere
43:55 <Hydrazine> 3 base, extras if he gets a kill, probably an AoO or two.
43:59 <mort-> I saw hitomi do about 20-30 per swing
44:07 <mort-> At 6
44:14 <tristen> mort: and the rest!
44:23 <mort-> I suppose when everything is done jerus will do 50
44:56 <Hydrazine> hm.
45:13 <tristen> oskar was packing combat reflexes and +8 dex
45:20 <tristen> and i didn't really cash in on that
45:45 <Hydrazine> hm. dunno.
45:48 <tristen> i shoulda had more fun
45:51 <mort-> You would run
45:53 <mort-> In the melee
46:04 <tristen> yeah we had a pretty solid front line
46:07 <mort-> To take aoos with your bow?
46:07 <Brunius> What was the feat that allowed you to threaten like that?
46:15 <tristen> snap shot
46:18 * mort- looks horrified
46:21 <tristen> and improved snap shot
46:26 <tristen> out to 15ft
46:29 <mort-> That's sick
46:30 <Brunius> Nice
46:34 <tristen> two aoos
46:34 <Avatar> yeah those are sweet feats
46:44 <mort-> Solid front line
46:51 <tristen> yeah it really rounds out the archer
46:58 <Avatar> buck's picking those up next
47:05 <tristen> shot on the run? meh
47:17 <Hydrazine> I can see jerus getting to +20 a swing easy.
47:18 <tristen> just need more movement
47:19 <Avatar> shot on the run is good but it's situational
47:24 <tristen> yes
47:50 <tristen> its really obsolete with the improved precise
47:51 <Brunius> What's the mirc command to join another server without leaving the current one?
47:57 <tristen> because nothing can hide from me
48:07 <Avatar> shot on the run is about you hiding from them
48:08 <Brunius> It'd be good if you needed the cover
48:25 <tristen> yeah like avatar said: situational
48:52 <tristen> poor darkwhite :(
49:02 <tristen> 12d6 = 33?
49:21 <tristen> actually that's not so bad
49:42 <tristen> he just needed to have more hp on the enemies and friendlier dice
50:08 <tristen> i'd be interested to see how it works out for the following tables
50:14 <mort-> Dps
50:16 <Avatar> yeah
50:17 <mort-> Me too
51:34 <tristen> hyrdrazine: yes +20 a swing at least!
51:42 <mort-> More
51:43 <Brunius> Trust Avatar
51:48 <mort-> I est 50
51:57 <Avatar> trust me with what
52:34 <mort-> 12 d6 could have dropped you trist :p
52:36 <Hydrazine> thats conservative. i think i could find more.
58:46 <Avatar> archaeologist is really an unbelievable archetype
59:10 <Avatar> it replaces one shitty bard thing and adds 6 awesome things
02:10 <Avatar> can you multiclass several archetypes of the same class?
02:22 <Avatar> if they started at level 1 each time?
02:29 <tristen> hydrazine: go through the exercise we did just to see
02:40 <tristen> upgrade him to 11 with a budget of 82k
02:44 <tristen> see what you get
03:27 <tristen> avatar: absolutely!
03:56 <tristen> the whole archaelogogogist thing was awesome
04:12 <tristen> "awe" being the operative word
04:20 <tristen> he was japanese or something?
04:32 <tristen> with a great big katana-sword?
04:33 <mort-> His character?
04:36 <mort-> Or player?
04:37 <tristen> yeah
04:43 <tristen> his charactater
04:44 <mort-> Wow so cool!
04:52 <tristen> character even
04:55 <mort-> I always wanted more eastern weapons!
05:03 <tristen> yeah he got all this rogue stuff
05:17 <tristen> and all this magick stuff
05:44 <Brunius> Ultimate Combat, mort-
05:48 <tristen> all his rolls were like: "does 37 pass?"
06:14 <mort-> His strength
08:01 <Brunius> I think he had weapon finesse
08:20 <mort-> With 29 for str
08:23 <Avatar> I don't think it was a katana
08:31 <mort-> Why do you need weapon finesse
08:38 <mort-> No dachi
08:58 <Avatar> yeah pretty sure there was no weapon finessing with a 29 str man
09:04 <Avatar> weapon finesse would have hindered him
09:21 <Brunius> yeah
09:29 <Brunius> Don't know why I thought he did
09:41 <Brunius> Thinking about it finesse doesn't make sense
10:05 <mort-> Pa definitely
10:14 <tristen> no it wasn't a katana
10:20 <tristen> it was like a big katana
10:21 <mort-> He may have arcane strike as well. Unsure
10:26 <tristen> can't remember the name of it
10:29 <Hydrazine> nodachi i think.
10:30 <mort-> I think its a no dachi
10:35 <Hydrazine> naginata?
11:30 <Avatar> it was probably a kanipatusensukahu
11:49 <mort-> Naginata is a glaive
11:51 <Avatar> or a nasitumakomaratu
12:33 <tristen> i dunno what it was but our opponents were cast into the pit of pain
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13:33 <tristen> i have this strange hankering for salty fish noodles...
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13:59 <mort-> Its bad for you!
15:10 <tristen> bad for you? it depends upon whether there are clerics at the counter...
15:22 <mort-> The salted fish nub
15:30 <mort-> Not whatever weapon you want to use
15:50 <mort-> You could hit people with a cooking pan if you wanted
16:04 <tristen> GONNNNNG
16:48 <mort-> Id just laugh
16:56 <Brunius> ARE there clerics at the counter, tristen?
17:03 <mort-> Or give weird looks
17:07 <mort-> Like
17:21 <mort-> A scabbard?!
17:55 <tristen> brun i'll be mighty suspicious if there aren't!
18:12 <tristen> i'll sense motive on the waiter
18:17 <tristen> or try to
18:39 <tristen> my wisdom and intelligence being what they are...
18:59 <Brunius> I'll detect evil.
19:01 <Brunius> ON THE NOODLES
19:37 <tristen> BEEP BEEP BEEP
20:03 <Avatar> yeah I want some salty fish noodles
20:29 <tristen> hey it might have been a nodachi - he used "brace" on, er, that thing we killed
20:56 <Brunius> Yeah
20:58 <mort-> Its unhealthy
20:59 <Brunius> That we can't talk about
21:04 <mort-> Period
21:14 <mort-> Salted fish is not good for you
21:22 <Brunius> quiet mort.
21:35 <Brunius> I want to eat these noodles while they're hot !
21:35 <tristen> mort: how about festival wine?
21:49 <tristen> is festival wine bad for me?
21:54 <mort-> Yes!
21:57 <mort-> I drink water
22:03 <mort-> I don't ever get drunk
22:15 <Brunius> Sounds like mort only ever drinks water and only eats bread
22:25 <mort-> That's right!
22:33 <mort-> I ate bread this morning!
22:42 <mort-> It was awesome!
24:37 <Hydrazine> hm. i was off some.
24:37 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
24:54 <MekkisScreen> should Grolschmir's Roc take Throw Anything?
25:24 <Hydrazine> other options?
25:28 <mort-> Why would a roc throw anything
25:35 <tristen> it has claws
25:37 <mort-> Maybe a flying monkey
25:38 <Avatar> because he's going to be a swordbomber
25:57 <MekkisScreen> I think it's better that the bird throws the sword
26:00 <MekkisScreen> no the rider
26:04 <mort-> Falcons rake their prey
26:09 <mort-> As they go along
26:18 <tristen> so mekks! you want me to get tasiv into shape for this scenario of yours?
26:23 <mort-> But its a little far fetched khaar would throw anything
26:53 <mort-> He wants to kill us using gnomes
29:36 <Hydrazine> hmmm.
29:40 <Hydrazine> dc 21 daze..
29:56 <Hydrazine> this might be worth it.
29:58 <MekkisScreen> tristen: yes...
30:16 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: any chance you can run a 5-9 on the 1st of April?
30:42 <Hydrazine> Would you trust him to run a legit game on the 1st of April?
30:54 <MekkisScreen> yeah
30:57 <MekkisScreen> I trust Brunius 
31:00 <MekkisScreen> he's young
31:07 <MekkisScreen> and (mostly) innocent!
31:18 <Hydrazine> and a stalker
31:23 <MekkisScreen> yeah
31:29 <MekkisScreen> \that's why I said mostly
31:31 <tristen> lol yeah he's wide-eyed! (everything's new!)
34:31 <mort-> I wonder if we will be 5-9:(
34:38 <Brunius> I might run a 5-9 then
34:54 <Brunius> If I can get a character other than Kaleb up to 5th by then
35:02 <mort-> I'm too low level
35:06 <mort-> :(
36:15 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: you can apply the chronicle sheet to Bairaq, and he'll get its benefits when he reaches the level
36:25 <Brunius> I'm thinking I might.
36:39 <MekkisScreen> hopefully we get get Mort to 5th by then
36:42 <MekkisScreen> she's 2XP off
36:51 <mort-> I'm away this week
36:57 <Brunius> :(
36:57 <MekkisScreen> there's QFP2 on the 24th
37:04 <mort-> Lol
37:14 <MekkisScreen> and I'll run somehting on the 25th if Ballig does't
37:17 <mort-> And we get to see itz
37:36 <MekkisScreen> and if something happens, Something will be run on the 31st
37:45 <Hydrazine> starting on high jerus just to show tris.
38:10 <tristen> hey mort did you roll up a ranger?
38:27 <tristen> i was reading this and thought of you: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo---ranger-archetypes/sable-company-marine
38:34 <MekkisScreen> the chance that Mytiazair reaches 10th at conquest is a pretty high chance
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41:46 <Avatar> is conquest open for rego yet
42:41 <Brunius> nuh
42:44 <Avatar> er
42:47 <Avatar> it's only 3 weeks away
43:00 <Avatar> oh
43:03 <Avatar> that's when rego opens
43:28 <Brunius> it's only got a week for rego?
43:30 <MekkisScreen> is rego open?
43:33 <MekkisScreen> it isn't?
43:35 <MekkisScreen> meh
43:36 <Avatar> or not
43:39 <MekkisScreen> it doesn't really matter
43:50 <Avatar> the conquest site and aon have conflicting information
44:01 <Brunius> of course
44:08 <Avatar> when is easter
44:08 <MekkisScreen> (unless of course you want to sign up for somehting non-pfs)
44:29 <MekkisScreen> 6-9th April
45:29 <Avatar> yeah looks like it's open to me
45:43 <Brunius> There are no games though
45:46 <tristen> jeez what a dog's breakfast
45:47 <MekkisScreen> how many sessions are on Friday and Monday?
46:09 <Avatar> 4 on friday, 2 on monday
46:14 <Avatar> 2 games friday, 1 game monday
46:37 <MekkisScreen> cool
47:17 <Avatar> registered
47:31 <MekkisScreen> (last year on the Monday, we went to John's house and played Hall of Drunken Heroes)
47:34 <MekkisScreen> good times
47:57 <Brunius> I'm attendee #64 for conquest
48:07 <tristen> http://staging.conquest.asn.au/external/online-registration-aon.html
48:10 <tristen> is that it?
48:23 <Avatar> http://aon.arsimagica.net/conquest/2012
48:39 <tristen> i'll refrain from making bottom-jokes
49:25 <mort-> Actually i like hippoiriffs
49:32 <mort-> But i don't think its legal
50:00 <MekkisScreen> and THIS is why someone should run a non PFS game in here
50:44 <tristen> i'll do that if you want
50:44 <Brunius> I'm thinking about it
50:49 <tristen> heheh
50:53 <Hydrazine> hey tris.
51:00 <tristen> heya
51:02 <Hydrazine> i think i might've figured out big jerus' battle plan.
51:08 <Brunius> Hydra: I ran a legit PFS game for you, didn't I?
51:09 <Brunius> FS2?
51:16 <tristen> excellent
51:41 <Hydrazine> Yeah, but it wasn't April 1st.
51:41 <MekkisScreen> tristen: would you allow hippogriffs?
51:43 <MekkisScreen> :S
51:54 <Hydrazine> If I ran a game on April 1st, I'd troll so unbelieably hard.
51:56 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: how about on March 29
52:01 <tristen> i'd allow anything you guys think is reasonable
52:06 <Hydrazine> We'd be in the wrong genre and everything.
52:07 <MekkisScreen> ummm
52:10 <MekkisScreen> mARCH 21
52:24 <Brunius> mARCH 21
52:27 <Hydrazine> Oh, I'm not saying you can't have a game whenever.
52:32 <MekkisScreen> march 31*
52:39 <tristen> i'm attendee #182 
52:42 <tristen> HURRAH!
52:49 <Hydrazine> I'm saying, beware the possibility of getting trolled in a game.
52:58 <Hydrazine> I can't play a 5-9 anyway
53:14 <Brunius> Is April Fools more of a deal over in america?
53:25 <Brunius> Nobody really cares in Australia, at least that I've seen
53:25 <Hydrazine> Guess so.
54:58 <MekkisScreen> there *might* be a boon associated with it :S
55:27 <Brunius> Oh?
57:06 <Avatar> I'm #181
57:11 <Avatar> how did you get #64
57:16 <Avatar> did you register weeks ago brunius
57:21 <Brunius> Registering in about october
57:31 <Brunius> I saw it was open and registered
59:20 <mort-> I think that archtype
59:26 <mort-> Isn't legal for pfs
59:51 <mort-> Whatever
00:06 <mort-> I really would like to get to mort and khaz :p
00:14 <mort-> They are fluffeh
01:45 <mort-> I'm still trying to figure out khazs
10:33 <tristen> hey the boon from the tournament doesn't have an expiry?
11:39 <mort-> And no i haven't drunk any honeymead
16:59 <Avatar> what makes you think it's not legal
17:14 <Avatar> tristen: it expires when your character expires
27:39 <Ballig> sup jerks
38:01 <Tashes> avatar, for some reason i can't start a drawfree game with you
40:44 <Ballig> Mekkis: are you able to tell me now if you'll be available this Sunday at 1pm?
41:01 <Ballig> if you're not that's fine, I'll run a regular scenario
41:11 <Mekkis> I won't be available at 1pm on any sunday, until April 1
41:22 <Ballig> all right
41:22 <Mekkis> DST puts that bang in the middle of my lunch
41:36 <Ballig> I'll run a regular game this sunday, give you time to come at me with some preferred slots for CoTE
42:08 <Mekkis> but as I said, I'll know whether sundays are free this Wednesday
42:15 <Ballig> yeah
43:53 <Avatar> what tier is shadow's last stand
43:54 <mort-> Shadows last stand?
43:56 <Avatar> 1-2 4-5 ?
44:17 <Mekkis> 1-7
44:17 <mort-> Wasn't it that one that tpked loads :p
44:30 <Ballig> Avatar: s hit, you got Africa pretty easily
44:43 <Avatar> yeah it was a good drawing
44:44 <Ballig> it's 1-2, 3-4 or 6-7
44:52 <Ballig> I played it at 3-4 today
45:10 <Ballig> with a group of 3,3,3,2
45:25 <Mekkis> how did you go?
46:08 <mort-> Yeah
46:13 <mort-> How was it
46:31 <Ballig> no problems
46:42 <Ballig> I got down to 4hp at one point, the level 2 went from full hp to 0hp in one attack at one point
47:36 <mort-> Oh sure.
47:39 <mort-> NoProblems
47:46 <mort-> Jax?
49:26 <Ballig> artimus
50:48 <mort-> Much
50:53 <mort-> Ouch
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52:34 <Ballig> sup fly boy
52:49 <Phly> hey
52:54 <mort-> Hey
53:02 <mort-> Oh tristen
53:08 <Phly> why were most of the weekend games cancelled?
53:12 <mort-> Because
53:26 <mort-> Those aussies went to convention
53:30 <Ballig> games were being rescheduled
53:37 <mort-> And i had a pretty nice week end with khaz
53:38 <Ballig> there was still a game scheduled for yesterday but Mort was the only one to accept it
53:42 <mort-> Lol
53:56 <Phly> i would have come but i tought all of em got cancelled
54:23 <Phly> well atleast i got to spend more time with my girl friend
54:32 <Phly> thought*
55:16 <mort-> Yeah lol
55:26 <mort-> I spent a weekend with my magus
55:37 <mort-> And the spell book
55:56 <Avatar> get your gf in here to come play some sweet PFS
56:14 <Phly> na she isnt into nerd stuff
57:01 <mort-> We have cookies!
57:15 <Phly> dont know if that would work
57:20 <Avatar> ask her if she wants to have a good time playing a sweet game
57:28 <mort-> And I'm not nerd
57:31 <mort-> :d
57:37 <Avatar> yeah none of us are nerds
57:50 <mort-> !throw 1d20-10 bluff
57:50 <diebot> mort-, bluff: [1d20=20] 10
57:54 <mort-> Wow lol
57:57 <Avatar> what does she like to do for fun
58:22 <Ballig> tell her she can dress up
58:23 <Phly> actually i dont know
58:27 <Ballig> bitches love to dress up
58:29 <Phly> lol
59:10 <Avatar> you don't know what your girlfriend likes to do for fun?
59:19 <Ballig> Avatar: your turn on the draw
59:34 <Avatar> yeah I am playing too many people now
59:35 <Mekkis> you don't take turns on the draw
59:35 <Avatar> I can't keep up
59:49 <Avatar> mekkis you should play
59:51 <mort-> Girls like shopping
59:55 <mort-> Mostly. I don't
59:56 <Avatar> oh, wait, not supported on nokia
59:57 <Mekkis> you pull out your pistol and shoots as soon as the handkerchief drops
00:08 <Mekkis> not supported at work, either
00:13 * mort- looks sad at mekkis
00:20 <Phly> well for fun she talks to me, goes shopping and plays basketball
00:28 <Avatar> you can use IRC but not your phone?
00:33 <Mekkis> sure
00:33 <mort-> Basket ball is cool
00:39 <Mekkis> I use ssh at work
00:43 <Phly> she whoops my ass in basketball
00:44 <Mekkis> it's just another window
00:46 <mort-> Again if i had higher rl dex.
00:53 <mort-> Which i don't
01:03 <Phly> is there a good app to use this irc on iphone
01:03 <mort-> So i miss. Like all the time
01:16 <mort-> Andchat
01:31 <Avatar> yeah
01:32 <Avatar> not andchat 
01:36 <Avatar> not on iphone
01:40 <Avatar> there's something else
01:41 <Phly> cause mibbit always crashes on my iphone
01:44 <Avatar> can't remember what
01:57 <Avatar> colloquy ?
02:38 <Mekkis> Phly, got an ssh client?
02:40 <Phly> dam 2$ i spent all my itunes credit on music yesterday
02:44 <Phly> ssh?
02:56 <Mekkis> ssh into a computer and run irssi in screen
03:00 <Mekkis> secure shell
03:16 <Phly> ive heard of ssh but ive never used it
03:46 <Mekkis> it's the only app you need
04:10 * mort- tries to understand then fails
04:16 <Phly> secure shell?
04:19 <Mekkis> yeah
04:32 <Mekkis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
04:48 <Phly> 2$ /facepalm
06:28 <Phly> u guys gonna hold any games today (cause its labour day in australia)
07:36 <Mekkis> no it isn't
07:45 <Phly> yea it is
07:53 <Phly> oh maybe its melbourn only
08:16 <Mekkis> it's labour day in victoria, Canberra day in ACT, Adelaide Cup day in Adelaide, Something in Tasmania
08:22 <Mekkis> and I'm at work here in Qld :(
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08:42 <Phly> wow i thought it was national labour day
08:55 <Mekkis> Labour day is 7th may here
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09:28 <Phly> canberra day wtf, u need to celebrate the fact canberra exists
09:46 <Mekkis> I want to celebrate that
09:56 <tristen> mekkis: phly would need to have an external computer to ssh into for that to work
10:04 <Avatar> I reckon we need to celebrate a day that melbourne exists
10:07 <tristen> he don't strike me as that kind of guy
10:07 <Mekkis> or I could sell him a shell account
10:07 <Avatar> maybe a week
10:07 <Mekkis> :S
10:15 <tristen> maybe you could!
10:21 * mort- smacks mek
10:25 <mort-> Hey avatar
10:29 <Mekkis> I sold Jevouse one
10:32 <mort-> Get hydrazine here
10:33 <Mekkis> for four PFS scenarios
10:36 <mort-> We could finish it
10:37 <mort-> Lol
10:43 <mort-> Jevie
10:43 <Avatar> jaggedsoul you mean
10:52 <Avatar> he's working I think
11:05 <Mekkis> (about $12)
11:09 <Avatar> if I can get phly, hydrazine and jaggedsoul in the room at the same time, we'll finish it
11:37 <Phly> we still havent finished that?
11:46 <Avatar> do you remember how it ended
11:53 <tristen> yes we still haven't finished that
12:13 <tristen> you went "GRRRAAAA" and rage-quit last time we tried!
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12:31 <Phly> no thats cause u said we will do it another time
12:54 <Avatar> we weren't playing that day whether you raged or not
13:03 <tristen> :) it's no problemo, we'll get it out of the way one day
13:22 <mort-> So yes
13:23 <Phly> does anyone here know what vampire diaries is?
13:25 <tristen> i can't apply that 1xp to oskar in the meantime
13:30 <tristen> and he's now level 3
13:30 <mort-> Lol
13:34 <Avatar> `op
13:34 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
13:35 <mort-> Wtf
13:40 <mort-> So fast?
13:47 <tristen> yeah i bagged 3xp this weekend
13:58 <mort-> I wouldn't use it on him
14:06 <tristen> i have no choice i don't think
14:07 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) / Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
14:21 <mort-> Wjh i want to play on sat
14:30 <mort-> But I'm at my cousins wedding
14:49 <tristen> play from your phone through the ceremony
14:55 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure you could apply that credit to either your exisitng character OR a new character at level 1
15:00 <mort-> No ca
15:04 <tristen> (and don't disable keytones)
15:09 <mort-> Do you want to tell me
15:11 <Phly> omg i just realised i have no exp!!!
15:16 <mort-> What happened the last time
15:30 <mort-> I tried to play fs1 withom ca?
15:37 <Avatar> to apply it to a new character at level 1 is what you'd do under the new rules, but there was talk last night that you can't do that with a level 11 module
15:43 <Avatar> and the rules don't make it clear
15:55 <Ballig> I was pretty sure you could do it on all
16:00 <mort-> I wouldn't even be able to prevent myself from getting flanked
16:00 <Ballig> it just scales the gold back to like 1500
16:07 <Mekkis> I thought you could do either
16:07 <mort-> What a waste
16:08 <Ballig> which isn't great for 4 scenarios' worth of XP
16:20 <Avatar> I got tier 1-2 gold anyway
16:28 <mort-> I would recommend it saved up
16:36 <mort-> But how did the other tables do
16:39 <Ballig> basically your options are: play it at level 11 as usual, or play it with a pregen and then apply it to a brand new character at reduced gold
16:40 <Avatar> the higher tiers are uh
16:43 <Mekkis> either apply it to a level 1 character for 1500gp, or apply it against an existing character, WHEN that character reaches "appropriate level"
16:44 <Ballig> pretty sure those are your only options
16:53 <Ballig> don't think you can do that anymore Mekkis
16:55 <Ballig> not 100% certain
16:59 <Avatar> does anyone think it's a crime to tell you how much gp you get 
17:07 <Ballig> no?
17:12 <Mekkis> nope
17:20 <Avatar> at 10-11 you get 19167gp 
17:23 <tristen> stephen asked us specifically what level our characters originally were
17:24 <Mekkis> unless it's something weird like Frozen Fingers
17:27 <Spaceshot> Ballig: there are no pregens for level 10+
17:34 <tristen> before doing the chronicle sheets
17:36 <Avatar> 1-2 is 1250gp, 3-4 is 3125gp
17:49 <Avatar> 3 scenarios worth remember
17:54 <Ballig> 1250gp is pretty bad
17:54 <Avatar> not 4
17:55 <Mekkis> Cult of Ebon Destroyers was like that
17:57 <Ballig> don't you get 4 XP
18:01 <Ballig> maybe it's 3 XP and 4 PA
18:02 <Mekkis> 1250
18:10 <Mekkis> isn't that like first steps?
18:12 <Spaceshot> RBT wasn't scalled properly
18:13 <Avatar> yeah 3 exp, 4 PA
18:15 <tristen> 4px
18:16 <Ballig> 1250 is still on the verge of bad at 3
18:17 <tristen> 4pa
18:18 <tristen> yeah
18:25 <Ballig> basically assumes 400 gold per scenario
18:29 <Ballig> you get more for first steps
18:37 <tristen> heheh true
18:42 <tristen> still...
18:45 <tristen> it was fun
18:46 <Avatar> with full new rules in effect, you get more gold
18:47 <Avatar> and prestige
18:48 <Mekkis> I believe that as of season 4, they're saying that it's about 420 gold per scenario
18:51 <Ballig> it's fine applying it to a level 2
18:53 <Mekkis> +- 5%
18:55 <Ballig> it'd be a waste applying it to a level 1
18:59 <Spaceshot> when they update the chronicle sheet, and the rules of what is legal to play it, they'll fix the gold and prestige to be the same as 3 scenarios, not 2
19:28 <Mekkis> keep in mind that you had no risk, and no consumable expenditure
19:30 <Avatar> but then you have to apply it to a level 1 character if you do what we did 
19:34 <Spaceshot> Ballig: for another couple weeks, you could up-level bobbob
19:35 <Avatar> a new level 1
19:39 <Spaceshot> and play it with him
19:52 <Mekkis> I think that's a big thing
20:04 <Ballig> or I could wait until he's level 11 and play it :p
20:06 <Mekkis> I mean, I know that Brunius burnt 3000gp or so of scrolls
20:12 <Mekkis> Ballig, wait until level 12
20:39 <Spaceshot> the RBT rewards are all so average for anyone above level 8 I'd say
20:43 <Ballig> Mekkis, Tristen Avatar and I already have an old school module happening
20:49 <Spaceshot> except for 1 or 2 things
20:56 <Ballig> we get to apply awesome rewardz at the end of CoTE to any of our characters
20:57 <Avatar> yeah the items are useless for a level 11+ character
21:04 <Avatar> which is the real deal of the chronicle sheet
21:16 <Spaceshot> yep, there is the possible boon
21:19 <Avatar> even the boons are a bit ho hum for level 11
21:30 <Spaceshot> which would be the only good thing for a high level character, but that is situational
21:51 <Spaceshot> avatar, the third one would be broken for a level 11/12
22:00 <Mekkis> I think the boons you get for specials are the wrong way around
22:16 <Spaceshot> all I know is, oskar loves his boon
22:27 <Mekkis> you should get three uses at low level, two at medium level, and one at high level
22:40 <Avatar> yeah
25:29 <Ballig> man
25:39 <Ballig> my phone was just ringing, and it took me ages to realise it
25:45 <Ballig> because I thought it was on the episode of Breaking Bad I'm watching
26:17 <Avatar> every dolt with half a brain can see that humankind has gone insane
26:50 <Mekkis> ummm..
26:55 <Ballig> actually it was my home phone
26:57 <Ballig> that's why it confused me
27:00 <Avatar> oh :P
27:00 <Mekkis> interesting: SKR is nerfing monks in PF again
27:00 <Ballig> my home phone never rings
27:07 <Mekkis> is it a scammer
27:09 <Avatar> how
27:18 <Ballig> no one was on the other end when I answered
27:19 <Mekkis> "There's a problem with your computer"
27:38 <Mekkis> "We're from Microsoft, that's why we have indian accents and talk over high-latency VOIP lines"
27:39 <Ballig> I t hink he meant how are they nerfing monks
28:25 <Avatar> yeah
28:37 <Mekkis> oh
28:43 <Mekkis> you can't flurry with the same weapon
28:52 <Phly> does anyone want pfs scenarios 1-28?
28:55 <Avatar> what
29:11 <Hydrazine> how often is that important? How many monks actually use weapons?
29:21 <Spaceshot> zen archer
29:22 <Spaceshot> XD
29:32 <Hydrazine> Ah. True.
29:33 <Spaceshot> and what do you mean you can't flurry with the same weapon
29:35 <Avatar> doesn't that break flurry if you do use a weapon
29:36 <Spaceshot> citation
29:42 <Mekkis> Phly, yes, but if you're talking about pirating them, no: I'd rather get them legally
29:45 <Spaceshot> no, you can flurry with monk weapons
29:48 <Hydrazine> I considered making a temple sword based monk.
29:49 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5ld7y&page=6?Ultimate-Equipment-Whats-Missing#283
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30:15 <Hydrazine> lots of str, rock like a fighter with better saves and cheaper armor bills. too many stats though I think.
30:37 <Mekkis> far too many stats
30:50 <Mekkis> no armour bills, yes
30:52 <Avatar> I mean doesn't it break flurry with that rule while you're using a weapon
31:43 <Ballig> it just means you have to flurry with two different weapons, doesn't it
31:47 <Spaceshot> too many stats? how is 2 stats too many?
31:51 <Mekkis> Flurry of Blows (Ex): Starting at 1st level, a monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action. When doing so he may make one additional attack using any combination of unarmed strikes or attacks with a special monk weapon (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham) as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat (even if the monk does not meet the prerequisites for the feat). For the purpose of these attacks, the monk's base attac
31:51 <Mekkis> k bonus from his monk class levels. For all other purposes, such as qualifying for a feat or a prestige class, the monk uses his normal base attack bonus. 
31:54 <Ballig> or you have to flurry with a weapon and natural attacks
32:15 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, you're not paying for armour. You're also not getting any armour.
32:32 <Spaceshot> zen archer uses 2 stats at level 3+
32:38 <Spaceshot> str and wis
32:39 <Ballig> so you could flurry with two kamas
32:42 <Spaceshot> yes
32:51 <Ballig> does a zen archer use bows to flurry
32:54 <Spaceshot> yup
32:57 <Ballig> sucks4u
33:01 <Mekkis> the question was "can you flurry with a single +4 kama"
33:04 <Ballig> does the archetype change the definition of flurry
33:05 <Spaceshot> it specifically says you can't flurry any other way
33:09 <Spaceshot> but with bows
33:23 <Ballig> is it APG or ultimate combat?
33:23 <Spaceshot> and you can't TWF with bows
33:24 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, ah, but what's your AC like?
33:26 <Spaceshot> APG
33:39 <Spaceshot> if I'm getting hit, there is something terribly wrong :P
33:50 <Mekkis> ah
33:53 <Spaceshot> I think currently at level 1 it's 16 or 17
33:54 <Mekkis> the Archer's Fallacy
33:56 <Brunius> I burned either 3750 or 4750 of scrolls, Mekkis
33:57 <Ballig> it changes the definition of flurry
33:58 <Ballig> so you're fine
34:05 <Spaceshot> yea I'd hope so XD
34:12 <Ballig> and you can't assume you won't get hit just because you're not in melee
34:15 <Ballig> wizards get hit
34:15 <Mekkis> "I'll never get hit, so don't worry about AC/HP"
34:21 <Spaceshot> I burned I think 10k on scrolls and wands I didn't use
34:23 <Ballig> you might come across ranged opponents
34:44 <Mekkis> or smart opponents
34:48 <Ballig> yeah
34:50 <Ballig> or opponents with overrun
34:52 <Spaceshot> if I get hit, it'd be by a spell
35:02 <Spaceshot> because I'd get deflect arrows soon enough
35:03 <Mekkis> or opponents who attack from behind
35:04 <Ballig> who was that jerk from the US who used to play in here
35:09 <Mekkis> Lucianus?>
35:13 <Ballig> that's him
35:17 <Ballig> his monk died because of an overrun
35:21 <Spaceshot> heh
35:40 <Mekkis> or you might be in a party where you're expected to be up front
35:58 <Brunius> Squirrel?
36:03 <Ballig> it was Lucianus
36:03 <Brunius> Where did he go to, anyway
36:15 <Ballig> squirrel had issues with his internet and then never came back
36:19 <tristen> oskar sort of proved that you can play from the back and never get hit
36:27 <Ballig> we have to assume that he went insane from the lack of accessible porn and jumped off a highrise building
36:27 <Mekkis> no, he didn't
36:28 <tristen> he ventured forth a few times
36:31 <tristen> and got clobbered
36:42 <Ballig> tristen: you can't prove "play from the back and never get hit" from one module
36:47 <tristen> he stayed right at the back spamming arrows
36:55 <Mekkis> tristen, all he's proved is that it works sometimes.
36:56 <tristen> not never get hit
36:59 <tristen> rarely get hit
37:02 <Mekkis> there are several counterexamples I've seen
37:07 <tristen> lessened chances of getting hit
37:10 <Spaceshot> I bet there are
37:14 <Mekkis> that DISPROVE your theory
37:18 <Ballig> it's the same reason a fighter can't assume that by having AC 25 he's immune to taking damage
37:20 <tristen> i'm sure there are
37:24 <Spaceshot> also, oskar has a dislike towards lightning bolt
37:26 <tristen> just generally though
37:26 <Ballig> sure, he's a veritable tank in the right circumstances
37:31 <Ballig> put him against a spellcaster though and he might be fucked
37:46 <tristen> yes i'm not saying he's invulnerable!
37:49 <tristen> far from it
38:07 <Brunius> Is UC the only book with Gunslinger stuff in it
38:30 <Spaceshot> yes
38:31 <Mekkis> thus far, yes
38:34 <Ballig> so far
38:41 <Spaceshot> because UC is the latest book, and it had gunslinger
39:14 <tristen> spaceshot: aye he stuck his neck out and copped a lightning bolt
39:20 <tristen> he should have stayed put
39:34 <tristen> i was getting bored with staying put
39:44 <Spaceshot> heh
39:45 <tristen> and copped a lightning bolt :)
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39:55 <tristen> and went back to staying put!
39:56 <Spaceshot> it's not like you could see it coming though
39:58 <Mekkis> heh
40:30 <Mekkis> fighter archer or ranger archer?
40:36 <tristen> yeah for sure! stephen and ryan both nodded sagely in agreement: "the glassiest cannon they've ever seen"
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40:51 <tristen> fighter archer
40:57 <Brunius> Who's Time_Machine ?
41:13 <tristen> didn't he spam earlier with his quit message?
41:21 <tristen> wait for it...
41:26 <Ballig> he's not a spammer
41:33 <Ballig> just a random guy from the US
41:38 <tristen> oh mixed him up with someone else
41:47 <Brunius> I figured that out from the host
43:34 <Avatar> brunius you're the spammer
43:38 <Avatar> spamming us with your quit messages
43:52 <Ballig> ha
43:53 <Brunius> What?
43:56 <Ballig> trying to make us use xchat
44:00 <Ballig> even though you use mirc
44:10 <Brunius> What is my quit message anyway?
44:22 <Avatar> quit and come back
44:29 <Ballig> yeah I don't have you quitting in my backlog
44:45 Brunius has quit (Quit: You what?)
44:53 <Avatar> that's not what it normally is
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44:56 <Ballig> you changed it
44:58 <tristen> brunius has the best username in the history of the internets
45:00 <Avatar> you did something
45:16 <Brunius> I used to have "The chat cool people use"
45:16 <Ballig> he just overrode the default quit message by putting a message after /quit
45:20 <Brunius> Until you guys complained
45:22 <Ballig> ha
45:28 <Brunius> Then I changed it to something else
45:29 <Avatar> have we already had this conversation
45:31 <Brunius> Yes
45:32 <Ballig> yeah
45:37 <Brunius> What is it now?
45:53 <Avatar> can't you check it yourself if you know how to change it
46:16 <Avatar> I mean I thought that was the problem
46:32 <Brunius> I can't remember where it gets changed
46:35 <Brunius> I'll change it later
46:40 <Avatar> !dayjob
46:41 <Ballig> it says "You what?"
46:41 <diebot> Avatar, Usage: !dayjob <modifier>. Currently only works with positive modifiers.
46:45 <Avatar> !dayjob 1
46:45 <diebot> Avatar, Roll: 8 1gp
46:54 <Ballig> !dayjob +10
46:54 <diebot> Ballig, Roll: 23 20gp
47:06 <Mekkis> !dayjob +21
47:07 <Ballig> it should tell you the roll and the modifier together
47:07 <diebot> Mekkis, Roll: 35 100gp
47:11 <Ballig> so you can be certain it got the modifier right
47:11 <Mekkis> yeah
47:11 <Avatar> don't know if it's worth burning a rank just to get some $
47:28 <Avatar> I think my great plan was to use bluff as my dayjob when I got enough prestige
47:30 <Mekkis> Avatar, Nightmare has proved that it isn't
47:32 <Ballig> like Roll: 13+10 (23) 20gp
47:35 <Avatar> but I am beginning to wonder if that is dumb
47:46 <Mekkis> even with his high diplomacy
47:49 <Avatar> what did Nightmare prove
47:55 <Mekkis> it's not worth it
48:01 <Ballig> you don't get a lot of gold from it
48:01 <Mekkis> at least he proved it to me
48:11 <Mekkis> even when you have +21 to dayjob
48:15 <Avatar> well I plan to use caravan with bluff for it
48:27 <Avatar> but I don't have that yet
48:28 <Ballig> Bobbob was a pregen with craft weaponsmith, and I decided to throw a point into craft alchemy on Samsuhn just because he had high int to take advantage of it (and you sometimes use craft alchemy in games)
48:29 <Mekkis> and are slow progression to get twice as many dayjob rolls
48:31 <Ballig> but otherwise I haven't bothered
48:45 <Mekkis> if you WANT to get gold, uptier. It's easier and more effective
49:00 <Avatar> Snickers would use cha advantage with bluff (weak) but int advantage with craft (strong)
49:11 <Avatar> she already has 10 bluff at level 2
49:26 <Avatar> I guess I can afford caravan now
49:29 <Avatar> that probably solves things
50:17 <Ballig> is it worth 5 prestige
50:28 <Ballig> consider that an easy gold conversion is 375gp per prestige
50:40 <Ballig> so is it worth 1875 gold worth of prestige
50:40 <Avatar> that's a good point, I don't think it would pay for itself
51:07 <Ballig> let's imagine you roll a natural 20 on every day job
51:22 <Ballig> it would take 25 scenarios to pay off
51:23 <Avatar> well that's 20+10
51:24 <Mekkis> you don't get a vanity for no the dayjob rolls
51:26 <Ballig> 75 gold
51:32 <Mekkis> you get the vanity for roleplaying purposes
51:49 <Ballig> Snickers is level 2 now?
51:53 <Avatar> level 3
51:58 <Ballig> he'll be level 10 by the time you pay off the purchase of the vanity, IF you got a natural 20 every time
52:02 <Ballig> he'll be level 11 then
52:06 <Avatar> Snickers is a girl
52:16 <Ballig> I will never acknowledge that
52:17 <Ballig> never!
52:22 <Avatar> she's a witch
52:34 <Ballig> he's a witch
52:46 <Hydrazine> BURN HER BURN HER!
52:49 <Hydrazine> oh. wrong movie.
52:55 <Mekkis> if she goes on slow progression, then she'll have it by level 6!
53:08 <Avatar> forget slow progression
53:27 <Avatar> I'm actually not sure how I got talked into dayjobs
53:28 <Spaceshot> I want to go slow progression on a character
53:29 <Spaceshot> but not Ava
53:31 <Avatar> I remember telling all of you it was a waste
54:18 <Avatar> or is it just caravan that's a waste
54:22 <Avatar> because of the prestige cost
54:36 <Avatar> it must be worth a single skill point, surely
54:42 <Ballig> dayjobs are fine if you're only throwing one rank into it, can take advantage of a high stat, and have enough skill ranks to spare
54:44 <Ballig> otherwise, eh
54:51 <Ballig> the vanity is the waste
54:53 <Avatar> witch I do
55:09 <Avatar> the temple vanity is an exception because you get other bonuses with it
55:18 <Ballig> I can't even see wanting to spend prestige at this level for roleplay purposes
55:26 <Ballig> maybe once you have enough prestige to assure a resurrection and restoration
55:46 <Mekkis> Grolschmir bought TWO titles
55:54 <Ballig> does he have a herald
55:57 <Mekkis> no
56:00 <Avatar> haha
56:04 <Avatar> Snickers wouldn't want one
56:04 <Mekkis> he's looking at getting a squire
56:04 <Ballig> is the herald single-use
56:23 <Ballig> it reads to me like you spend the prestige for one event
57:54 <mort-> What was the 3 r costs again?
58:04 <mort-> Preistige
58:06 <Avatar> what is 3 r
58:11 <Ballig> what's 3 r
59:34 <Avatar> what's the concensus in here of taking 10 on a knowledge check
59:47 <Ballig> I'm torn
59:56 <Ballig> on the one hand it can make knowledge checks too easy for some classes (wizards, e.g.)
00:09 <Ballig> on the other hand, it's stupid that you can roll really low and not know something super basic
00:20 <Avatar> I think it's perfectly acceptable
00:42 <Avatar> there's also a risk that you won't get the info you need with no retries
00:51 <Ballig> yeah
00:53 <Avatar> being too easy for certain classes isn't a good excuse
00:56 <Ballig> I don't think it says you can't take 10
00:59 <Avatar> every skill will be like that
01:01 <MekkisScreen> at least it's not like 3.5
01:10 <MekkisScreen> where I remember in QQ, the process was
01:17 <MekkisScreen> 1) cast Moment of Prescience
01:23 <MekkisScreen> 2) make knowledge check
01:33 <MekkisScreen> with a +20, you *might* learn one thing
01:48 <Ballig> gods, the process I hated was 1) Cast time stop, 2) spend half an hour working out buffs, 3) cast time stop, 4) spend another half an hour, 5) let other people take their first turn now
01:49 <Avatar> what do you think mekkis re take 10 on knowledge
02:02 <Avatar> haha
02:24 <Avatar> how does it take an hour to work out buffs
02:25 <Ballig> Mavor was the biggest offender of that, but I think half the people who played QQ did something similar at least once
02:34 <Ballig> I think most people at least skipped points 3 and 4
02:58 <Ballig> because Mavor didn't work out statblocks for his buffs BEFOREHAND
03:14 <Avatar> what kind of buffs are we talking about
03:14 <Ballig> and at level 20 when you're casting like 12 spells in one round, there is a lot of math to figure out
03:25 <Ballig> look through the spell compendium
03:31 <Ballig> any buff you see there was probably cast by at least one person
03:45 <Avatar> but time stop is what, 1d4 rounds?
04:48 <Ballig> he was multicasting time stop
04:56 <mort-> Last thime it was
05:12 <mort-> Cast time stop empowered igms 
05:25 <mort-> Bb dragon lich or whatever it was
05:55 <Ballig> and I think he had an item that also cast time stop
06:22 <Spaceshot> I think it was his wish sword
07:19 <mort-> How often do people up tier
07:34 <Ballig> it was boots of time stop or similar
07:41 <Ballig> he was trying to use his wish sword to cast more spells
07:50 <MekkisScreen> Ghandi cast time stop once
07:54 <Ballig> to buff himself further with spells that his class couldn't cast
08:02 <MekkisScreen> (in the three or four sessions he played)
08:04 <Ballig> because he thought that he got the wishes back each time he played
08:54 <mort-> Lol
09:01 <MekkisScreen> I don't particularly like taking ten on knowledge during combat
09:34 <Ballig> I don't think he means during combat
09:40 <Ballig> it's legitimate that you can't take 10 during combat
09:58 <Ballig> I would say he means more like, you start a scenario and you're told you can make a knowledge check to find out more information
10:02 <MekkisScreen> I'd probably allow it out of combat
10:13 <MekkisScreen> but I don't assume it
13:15 <MekkisScreen> I'd RATHER you rolled
15:53 <mort-> !throw 1d20+8 any knowledge skill
15:54 <diebot> mort-, any knowledge skill: [1d20=16] 24
16:08 <mort-> Well that's what ol mort has on minimum
16:16 <mort-> As in +8
16:54 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: given the option, would you take ten on a knowledge roll?
16:56 <mort-> Any knowledge skill under the sun
17:10 <mort-> Id roll because i love dice
17:25 <mort-> And impressing my team mates on my mods
17:27 <MekkisScreen> I can understand the idea of a knowledge roll
17:40 <mort-> Because I'm totally awesome!
17:40 <MekkisScreen> "How much did I learn about that subject?"
18:06 <MekkisScreen> it's not like climb, where "take 10" is "I carefully make my way up the rope"
18:30 <Avatar> but then why isn't there a rule specifying you can't take 10 on it
18:37 <Avatar> where UMD does specify it
18:55 <MekkisScreen> I'm not talking rules..
19:33 <Avatar> so you'd consider disallowing it even though there's no rule saying you can't
19:35 <MekkisScreen> how can you *justify* in-character the act of taking 10 on a knowledge roll
19:45 <Avatar> carefully learning about that subject
20:10 <Avatar> earlier on, obviously
20:11 <MekkisScreen> that's covered by the ranks you put into that subject
20:13 <Spaceshot> your innate knowledge of the subject that comes instantly to the mind when thinking about the subject
20:17 <Avatar> but all knowledge checks work like that
20:19 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: depends on the character
20:26 <Spaceshot> rolling for it would be pondering about the subject for a few mins
20:30 <MekkisScreen> example, Ballig?
20:44 <Avatar> Spaceshot: you never ponder about it, it's not an action
20:50 <mort-> Umd there are consequences for failing
20:57 <Ballig> if it's a character with a high knowledge modifier I'm probably more likely to want to take 10 so that I know I get a decent result and won't waste the skill by rolling a 2
21:03 <Avatar> no, consequences for failure is about take 20, not take 10
21:05 <mort-> Like getting stuck out for 24 h
21:11 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: so you mean metagaming?
21:15 <Ballig> if it's a lower check I probably wouldn't have a lot invested in knowing something anyway, so will gamble for a decent result
21:19 <Avatar> you can't take 10 on it because you can't be careful at all, it's experimental
21:23 <Avatar> trial and error
21:23 <MekkisScreen> can your character make a conscious decision to take 10?
21:29 <Ballig> when you're talking about taking 10 or rolling you're intrinsically dealing in game mechanics
21:35 <MekkisScreen> in the case of knowledge?
21:37 <Ballig> you can't say it's metagaming when the answer I give you is talking about game mechanics
21:39 <Avatar> Mekkis: yes, if it's something they've studied earlier
21:50 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: I gave an example of taking 10 with climb
21:56 <MekkisScreen> which doesn't rely on metagaming
22:01 <Ballig> so you're saying should I rack my brains or think carefully?
22:39 <MekkisScreen> I'm saying that I can't think of an in-character method of taking 10 on a knowledge roll
22:42 <Avatar> actually the rule does say you need to not be in immediate danger
22:47 <Avatar> assumedly that applies with knowledge as well
22:55 <Ballig> it's "thinking carefully"
22:57 <Avatar> so thinking about it carefully applies
23:01 <Ballig> spending a few minutes to consider it
23:05 <mort-> Generally you are in danger
23:11 <Ballig> instead of being like "Shit, there's a creature. It's a.. it's a.. fuck! I forget what it is!"
23:31 <Ballig> consider uh
23:37 <Ballig> you're on Jeopardy
23:40 <mort-> If a creature is charging at you
23:46 <Ballig> you're asked a question, you have to beat two other people to answer it
23:50 <Ballig> or have some other timer
23:51 <mort-> Well i would forget about it too
23:53 <mort-> And start screaming
23:58 <Avatar> yeah perfect example
23:58 <Ballig> you're more likely to have a mind blank (i.e. you rolled)
23:59 <mort-> Loudly
24:03 <Ballig> if you're at home, you can think about it
24:05 <Ballig> spend a few minutes
24:10 <Ballig> "Oh, yeah. I know the answer to that."
24:19 <mort-> If a monster is charging at you
24:41 <mort-> I think you would have a mind blank
25:08 <mort-> I would find somewhere to hide really
25:11 <Ballig> which is why you can't take 10 in combat
25:20 <mort-> Yeah
26:27 <mort-> I wonder how mort generally gets at least one bit of information out of the monster
26:36 <mort-> In the middle of a fight :p
26:39 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: can you solve d(4x^2+x-sin(x))/dx ?
26:47 <Ballig> is this related?
26:54 <Avatar> brunius brought in this brilliant lego witch for a mini for me
26:55 <MekkisScreen> yes
26:59 <mort-> No
27:01 <Ballig> no, I can't solve that
27:03 <mort-> I hate oaths
27:04 <Avatar> and in one battle, I casted reduce person on myself
27:06 <Ballig> without a bit of research
27:06 <mort-> Maths
27:07 <Avatar> and removed the legs
27:12 <Avatar> it looked extremely awesome
27:13 <MekkisScreen> it's an example of something that would require a knowledge check
27:24 <MekkisScreen> that's not in combat
27:29 <Ballig> my math knowledge is untrained
27:43 <Avatar> I can't solve that with a roll
27:45 <Ballig> ask me about the new work health and safety legislation
27:52 <mort-> I hate maths so I'm not even going to try it haha
27:58 <Avatar> not with a nat 20
28:16 <Avatar> probably not with 2 nat 20s
28:24 <MekkisScreen> sure... if I'm at work, how often would I be permitted to get up amd make myself a cup of coffee?
28:28 <Avatar> the DC on that would be up there
28:35 <Ballig> that's not health and safety, that's workplace relations
28:38 <Ballig> and depends on your supervisors
28:48 <Ballig> I can tell you, as a health and safety specialist, my recommendation
28:49 <Avatar> you took 10
28:56 <Ballig> that you get up from your workstation every half an hour
29:07 <Ballig> also, every 20 minutes, look away from your computer screen for 20 seconds at something 20 metres in the distance
29:14 <Ballig> in order to exercise your eyes and prevent eye strain and headaches
29:15 <mort-> Lol
29:57 <MekkisScreen> so Ballig, is it against regulations for there to be no object 20m away in view of my desk?
30:00 <Ballig> (if your supervisors complain about you making coffee once an hour, tell them it's for WHS reasons)
30:08 <Avatar> wow I didn't know that about eyes
30:09 <Ballig> no, there are no regulations on that subject
30:24 <Ballig> however it would be beneficial for you, especially if you have a lot of screen-based tasks
30:24 <Avatar> that's good to know, I've wondered what is a good way to not break them
30:30 <Avatar> aside from 'doing something else'
30:51 <Ballig> are there windows in sight?
30:54 <Ballig> windows easily meet the burden
31:11 <Avatar> doesn't matter, I'm a screen starer
31:28 <Ballig> yeah you need to switch up the distances every 20 minutes, or else your eyes get sore
31:46 <Ballig> if instead you were looking at something 20 metres in the distance all day, you would look at something close every 20 minutes
32:14 <MekkisScreen> nope, no windows: there is one, but it's blocked by a door
32:49 <Avatar> my eyes don't get sore
32:53 <Avatar> I just don't want to break my eyesight
33:35 <Ballig> I think it's hilarious I get paid $70k/year to know this shit
33:51 <Avatar> yeah I think it's hilarious too
34:21 <Ballig> do you
34:27 <Avatar> are you doing these drawings on your tablet
34:36 <Ballig> yeah
34:36 <MekkisScreen> yeah
34:37 <MekkisScreen> it is
35:02 <MekkisScreen> whereas I get paid 56k to know stuff like that differentiation stuff
35:09 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: I'm pretty sure Queensland is one of the states who have harmonised with the new legislation
35:12 <MekkisScreen> (actually, more complex than that..)
35:18 <Ballig> you can get almost anything you want right now if you can bring it back to health and safety
35:35 <Ballig> because there are $3m penalties for organisations and $600k personal liability for executive management
35:40 <MekkisScreen> since Queensland's the only state that hasn't kicked Labor out in the last two years?
36:09 <Ballig> there are 4 states that haven't got the new legislation in yet
36:16 <Ballig> I believe two of them specifically stated an intent to put it off for 12 months
36:23 <Ballig> and the other two haven't gotten their bill through parliament yet
36:32 <MekkisScreen> as I said: we haven't kicked Labor out yet
36:42 <MekkisScreen> (we get to do that on the 25th of March)
37:51 <MekkisScreen> (unfortunately, in my electorate, the LNP candidate's campaigning stratergy is "the labor member's a lying scumbag. They haven't dug up any dirt on me yet..."
39:11 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: would you allow taking 10 on diplomacy?
39:23 <MekkisScreen> (or Ballig?)
39:50 <Ballig> another sticky one, but I can't debate it because I have to go the gym
39:51 <Ballig> back later
40:30 <MekkisScreen> have a good time
42:08 <mort-> Lols
42:24 <mort-> I wish i could take 10 on diplomacy
42:35 <mort-> Since it isn't my strong suit
48:31 <Avatar> you can
16:26 * mort- mucks
25:06 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
25:23 <MekkisScreen> what about dayjob rolls?
27:45 <mort-> No!
27:51 <mort-> Its your job
28:54 <MekkisScreen> actually, it's my caravan
29:10 <MekkisScreen> Nightmare owns a trading company
29:37 <mort-> Hey why is he a better merchant then khaz is :p
29:53 <mort-> Again khaz decided to wash his hands of the family business
30:05 <mort-> And go adventuring
30:43 <mort-> Now what sort of spices do we have in the desert
30:56 <mort-> Id say myrhh
31:04 <mort-> Probably i spelt wrong
32:41 <Brunius> MekkisScreen: You're an engineer, I think someone said?
34:22 <mort-> Saffron
34:29 <mort-> I think he is a programmer
34:57 <mort-> Mustaqd
35:03 <mort-> Mustard
35:31 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: software
35:45 <MekkisScreen> software engineer at the moment
35:55 <Brunius> What does a software engineer do?
36:00 <MekkisScreen> graduated in microelectronic engineering
36:14 <MekkisScreen> works out what the clients want
36:18 <MekkisScreen> and how to give it to them
37:14 <Brunius> Hmm
41:33 <Avatar> any of you use herolab
42:19 <Brunius> I tried it
42:39 <Avatar> ryan somehow used it to generate my familiar's statblock
42:41 <Brunius> But I didn't want to pay the $30 for the full version
42:42 <Avatar> I can't work out how
42:56 <Avatar> $30 is way too high
43:18 <Brunius> Yeah
46:13 <Brunius> I looked up how their licensing works, and it LOOKS like they give you one license key that you can use as many times as you like
46:25 <Mekkis> I would rather do it manually
46:43 <Avatar> I tried to do it manually, I failed dismally
46:53 <Brunius> I had trouble with manually too
47:07 <Avatar> I just figured it out
47:11 <Brunius> Ryan said the one I sent in was completely wrong and just issued a new statblock
47:18 <Avatar> choose wizard as class, and then a wizard tab appears
47:22 <Avatar> select a few options in there and a minion tab appears
50:57 <mort-> Ill use meks site
51:01 <mort-> Its fuzzy!
56:34 <MekkisScreen> mort-: and you can get the ascii to put onto ballig.net from Spirit Shaman 5 (CDiv15) / Mystic Wanderer 1 (MoF36) / Walker in the Waste 10 (sand90)/ Contemplative 1 (CDiv32) / Dragonslayer 1 (Drac126)/ Ruathar 1 (RotW 122)
57:45 <MekkisScreen> unmn
57:47 <MekkisScreen> not that
57:48 <MekkisScreen> use
58:02 <MekkisScreen> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/extraction.txt
00:58 <mort-> Lol
01:22 <mort-> Can't see stuff atm
03:08 <Avatar> is blindness/deafness redundant when you have glitterdust?
03:30 <Avatar> except for the deafness part
03:49 <Avatar> and the temporary part, I guess
04:25 <MekkisScreen> no
04:32 <MekkisScreen> glitterdust is will save
04:39 <MekkisScreen> blindness/deafness is fort
04:45 <MekkisScreen> that's enough of a reason
09:41 <Avatar> ahhh that's the part I was looking for
11:06 <mort-> Will is good on big dumb fighters with no brains!
15:59 <Avatar> not really sure whether to take both of them or just get one of them and something else
16:45 <Brunius> Take Blindness/Deafness
17:01 <mort-> Silence is better
17:02 <Brunius> Hmm
17:04 <Brunius> Actually
17:06 <Brunius> Take both.
17:11 <mort-> Glitter dust to deal with the tanks
17:13 <Brunius> They've both got their place.
17:30 <mort-> Use silence on their casters
17:32 <Avatar> I need to be able to cackle
17:36 <Avatar> so no silence
17:41 <mort-> With willing bait
17:42 <Avatar> I don't get silence
17:55 <mort-> Lol
18:09 <mort-> Id umd it but my wis sux "
18:43 <Avatar> I could take hold person but that feels redundant when you can just make them blind
19:42 <mort-> Hold is better
19:50 <mort-> Blind you can still hit
19:56 <mort-> Hold if you can land is coup
20:15 <Avatar> pretty sure you don't need to coup them if they're blind
21:15 <Avatar> hexes are already will saves, so I'll probably take blindness/deafness
21:33 <Avatar> oh uh, glitterdust is aoe
21:38 <Avatar> ug
22:16 <Brunius> glitterdust will outline invisibles too
22:35 <Avatar> yeah but I think that's less important at low levels
23:19 <Avatar> I'll take them both
24:13 <MekkisScreen> Faerie fire will outline invisibiles
26:32 <Avatar> witches don't get that 
26:41 <Avatar> why would you take faerie fire over glitterdust
28:02 <mort-> Blind still 50 percent hit
28:15 <mort-> Some monsters are dangerous
28:19 <mort-> One hit will kill you
30:10 <Avatar> <?blinded
30:10 <diebot> The creature cannot see. It takes a 2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a 4 penalty on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks and on opposed Perception skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as reading and Perception checks based on sight)
30:11 <diebot> automatically fail. All opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) against the blinded character. Blind creatures must make a DC 10 Acrobatics skill check to move faster than half speed. Creatures that fail this check fall prone. Characters who remain blinded for a long time grow accustomed to
30:11 <diebot> these drawbacks and can overcome some of them.
32:47 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: faerie fire is first level
33:04 <Avatar> ah
33:04 <Brunius> But witches don't get it
34:33 <mort-> See invis ftw
34:35 <Avatar> I've got just under 3000gp to spend now
34:52 <Avatar> might save it for a headband
35:58 <Brunius> Yeah I have about the same
46:21 <Brunius> No clue what I'll spend it on
46:34 <Avatar> I feel really silly having burned some prestige on a CLW wand already
46:53 <Avatar> I only needed some scrolls, maybe no more than 10
47:29 <Brunius> Man remind me not to bother to bring healing next time I go adventuring with you in a module
48:00 <Avatar> you still need your own healing
48:11 <Avatar> that one was special because we could share our resources
50:59 <mort-> Lol
51:14 <mort-> The worst thing is stuck out of combat
51:18 <mort-> And can't heal.
51:28 <mort-> Never again. Even if i must umd it
52:00 <Avatar> when did that happen
53:58 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: is Bairaq saving up for a wand of holy sword?
55:05 <MekkisScreen> if I had a paladin, he would be :S
55:19 <MekkisScreen> (actually, Xanian IS)
55:55 * mort- looks at the holy sword nervously
58:31 <MekkisScreen> mort-: why are you scared of Xanian?
59:02 <Mekkis> incidentally, does anyone know why deity Ollysta worships?
59:16 <Brunius> WHY?
59:20 <Brunius> For any numbr of reasons.
00:09 <Mekkis> just because he's king of a small kingdom south of Brevoy
02:29 <Avatar> hmmm I can afford that wand on the chronicle sheet
48:56 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 11am (Mekkis, new game) / Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | CoTE: TBA || All times are AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net
48:56 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Mar 12 13:10:40 2012
48:57 <Ballig> mort-: so you ignore the emails because you get too many?
49:04 <mort-> Yes!
49:09 <Ballig> uh
49:14 <mort-> I don't really read my mail lol
49:16 <Ballig> that's pretty slack mort
49:29 <mort-> I'm here. Anything you want you can tell me.
49:37 <Ballig> no, we have a scheduler
49:37 <Avatar> the problem is, if you're getting an email from the site, it's important you check it
49:45 <Avatar> because it's something you need to know about
49:49 <Avatar> otherwise it doesn't send you one
49:59 <Ballig> we've done the "people are here, anything we want we can tell them" and it is very hit or miss
50:06 <Mekkis> Ballig, am I correct that if something's specified in the NES, and something different is specified in the Award, the Award takes precedence?
50:13 <mort-> Lol
50:26 <mort-> I'm here so you can tell me here!
50:43 <Avatar> you should be doing your part to help everyone keep track
50:46 <mort-> Ballig did you tell him about a naughty magus you had here?
50:54 <Avatar> you're being selfish by just saying you organise it
51:03 <mort-> Yes avatar sir :(
51:13 <mort-> My phone is also very small sir
51:16 <Ballig> Mekkis: is that your version of an enterprise agreement?
51:21 <Avatar> well not now while you're on your phone
51:34 <mort-> Squinting to look at it now sux sir
51:37 <Avatar> ballig's asking if there's something we can do to help you get to it
51:45 <mort-> Hm.
51:46 <Ballig> the invite has been there for several days
51:48 <Mekkis> Ballig, not really: I'm not under an EA
51:49 <mort-> More cookies?
52:07 <Avatar> I thought people don't like cookies in their browsers
52:12 <Ballig> the award should be better than the national employment standard
52:13 <Avatar> Ballig: add cookies to the site
52:18 <Avatar> collect her passwords or something
52:44 <Mekkis> Ballig, it is: the NES says 38 hours per week plus "reasonable overtime". The award says 38 hours per week.
53:03 <Ballig> yeah
53:08 <Ballig> the NES is the minimum, but the award is what you get
53:48 <Mekkis> my boss was telling me that 10 hours was reasonable
54:00 <mort-> All done
54:08 <mort-> Mr naggy two shoes
54:19 * mort- sulks
54:35 <Ballig> mort-: we're both nagging you and asking you for feedback
54:40 <Ballig> about ways we can get you to use the scheduler better
54:49 <Ballig> would you be more likely to use the scheduler if it gave you messages here in IRC?
54:51 <Ballig> with links you can click
55:05 <Avatar> what can be changed to make you want to use it more
55:07 <Mekkis> Ballig, do you want to add that?
55:07 <mort-> Actually yes
55:14 <Ballig> yeah
55:22 <Mekkis> Diebot has an socket -> IRC interface
55:23 <mort-> Don't ask me to login on cell
55:29 <mort-> Like i irc in
55:29 <Mekkis> want me to allow your site's IP?
55:36 <Ballig> I can't make it not ask you for a login
55:45 <mort-> And i can type command accept here
55:48 <mort-> Like
55:51 <mort-> !accept
55:54 <mort-> Ah cool
55:57 <Ballig> so you want to accept from IRC itself?
56:04 <Avatar> ha
56:08 <mort-> Don't mind
56:10 <Ballig> that was how my first scheduler worked
56:14 <Mekkis> that's not that hard
56:19 <Avatar> what was the syntax 
56:24 <mort-> Easier then squinting at my mail
56:25 <Ballig> I can't remember
56:27 <Ballig> but no one used it
56:35 <Mekkis> like noone uses !fullattack
56:41 <Avatar> I remember it being something like !game 1 tuesday accept
56:53 <Avatar> and it had 500 other options
57:09 <Ballig> interfaces are hard to do when you are restricted to a commandline
57:14 <Mekkis> yeah
57:14 <Avatar> yeah
57:14 <Ballig> they become necessarily complicated
57:24 <Avatar> I mean even with this, you'd have something like
57:27 <Mekkis> especially if you want them stateless
57:40 <Avatar> !accept game1 1 2 6 7
57:53 <Ballig> yeah
58:00 <Mekkis> /nick Avatar !reject game1
58:02 <Mekkis> :D
58:04 <Avatar> and people would end up going ehh !accept game1
58:13 <Avatar> so we'd never get character levels
58:23 <Avatar> unless you force an error if they don't provide it
58:40 <Avatar> declining would be easier
58:57 <Mekkis> yeah
58:59 <Mekkis> as I said
59:06 <Mekkis> /nick Avatar !reject game1
59:32 <Avatar> it might be better if it pm'd everyone in the channel, not sure if that's possible
59:37 <Mekkis> sure
59:44 <Avatar> so that if they're not there chatterboxing they would see it later
59:47 <Mekkis> Ballig, do you want me to give you access to Diebot's socket to IRC interface?
00:15 <Avatar> it'd be worth adding colours for when a scheduled game is announced
00:22 <Ballig> let me look into it first
00:26 <Avatar> in channel
01:04 <mort-> So
01:11 <mort-> What did that magus do
01:26 <Mekkis> deceased accidentally pitted it
01:27 * mort- jumps on ballig
01:31 <Ballig> he wasn't very effective
01:43 <mort-> What was his damage rolls like
01:48 <mort-> I miss a lot too sigh
01:51 <Avatar> mort you accepted the game you can't attend for next week, not the week after
01:52 <Ballig> he did a burning hands, he tried a spell combat shocking grasp but failed to cast
01:54 <Ballig> and that was about it
01:57 <mort-> Oh lol
02:03 <Avatar> erm
02:18 <mort-> He needs to use 5 ft step more often
02:27 <mort-> Probably shield is an idea as well
02:44 <mort-> I've never really shocking grasped before
03:00 <mort-> I think i could pass as a tank
03:01 <mort-> Lol
03:05 <mort-> Fake it :p
03:09 <Ballig> he couldn't 5 foot step
03:18 <mort-> Terrain not favorable?
03:24 <Mekkis> remember Mytiazair's tactic of "bluff"
03:26 <mort-> Swing that sword 2 handed :p
03:40 <Ballig> because the creature was all up in his grill
03:40 <mort-> Oh the possum? :d
03:44 <Ballig> I can't say much more without spoiling the scenario
03:47 <mort-> Hit
03:49 <mort-> Back off
03:56 <mort-> Cast. Store charge
03:59 <Ballig> mort-
04:00 <Ballig> he couldn't
04:03 <Ballig> leave it at that
04:05 <mort-> Aw
04:18 <mort-> Then 2 handed swing that thing :p
04:42 <mort-> Actually i migit have tried for it as well
05:23 <Ballig> you can't analyse his tactics, you weren't even there
05:29 <Ballig> let's just leave it at he wasn't very effective
05:36 <Ballig> in part because he wasn't very cluey about the class
05:38 <mort-> Aw :(
05:39 <Ballig> or the game
05:44 * mort- sniffs
05:47 <Ballig> the fighter wasn't very effective either for the same reasons
05:54 <Ballig> let's just say the cleric saved the day
05:55 <mort-> Actually I'm a blur sot myself
05:58 <Ballig> (I was the cleric)
06:07 <mort-> Yeah mr braggart
06:14 <Avatar> it does sound like it would be a pretty funny game to watch
06:18 <mort-> But now i think about scenarios
06:27 <mort-> I really wonder how we ran our last one
06:33 <mort-> Without a healer ><
06:46 * mort- has cold sweat
07:24 <Ballig> the healing was the least of what I did, let me tell you!
07:25 <Ballig> oh yes
07:54 <mort-> Come on
08:03 <mort-> Artimus can fight
08:13 <mort-> But i think colour spray rocks my socks
08:38 <mort-> Still a lot of wizzie left in me
08:49 <Avatar> I should take a level of sorcerer just for colour spray
10:31 <mort-> Lol its over rated
10:37 <mort-> Once past 4
10:52 <mort-> Now if hideous laughter would work for me :(
24:07 <mort-> Btw
24:24 <mort-> Did you preach at anyone in that game!
24:26 <mort-> ?
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25:52 <Ballig> yep
26:32 <mort-> Ok
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26:36 <Ballig> :)
26:40 <mort-> Next time i see you preach
26:47 <mort-> Something will happen
26:55 <Ballig> oh? what will that be?
27:11 <mort-> Earmuffs!
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27:47 <Ballig> then Artimus might just have to come up with a rule that he only heals people who listen to his sermons ;)
28:51 <mort-> I have magic
28:54 <mort-> Of my own
28:57 <Ballig> mhmm
29:00 <Ballig> hope it keeps you alive
29:02 <mort-> A little
29:12 <mort-> Post combat should be ok
29:14 <mort-> During
29:17 <mort-> ><
29:30 <Ballig> let's just cross our fingers and hope it's enough :)
29:33 <mort-> But generally i stay far back from fighting
32:30 <Ballig> the conversation today was basically
32:35 <Ballig> CLERIC: <something something Sarenrae something>
32:44 <Ballig> BARBARIAN: I don't worship Sarenrae!
32:53 <Ballig> GM: When you travel with a cleric of Sarenrae, everyone worships Sarenrae.
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41:30 <Avatar> mort I have a strong feeling you are going to die if you stick to your post-combat-healing-only ideas
41:50 <Ballig> especially on khaz
42:32 tristen is now known as Oskar
44:46 <Avatar> Mekkis: can you make it so we can save rolls without having to change nicks
44:52 Oskar is now known as tristen
45:13 <Avatar> like have it set up so that for 10 minutes, you can save rolls as another nickname
45:23 <Spaceshot> ahh
45:31 <Mekkis> Avatar, is it THAT had to change your nick?
45:42 <Avatar> no but I don't want to change it
46:03 <Avatar> only if it's easy to do of course
46:20 <Avatar> I mean
46:26 <Avatar> because I don't want to change it, I usually leave it until the game happens
46:39 <Avatar> and by then I'm concentrating on rushing to get rolls saved instead of playing properly
47:06 <tristen> just maintain a list on your character sheet!
47:14 <tristen> cut paste done
48:05 <Avatar> yeah that's a good idea
48:12 <Avatar> bit of a mess on the character sheet, but it'd work
48:30 <tristen> yeah i did it initially to get all of leis' rolls in order
48:43 <tristen> it helped me rationalise what he could do...
48:55 <tristen> i was getting swamped
48:57 <Avatar> yeah good trick
49:09 <Avatar> it was pretty funky seeing you reading that on your character sheet
49:11 <Avatar> in person
49:21 <Avatar> never thought I'd see saved rolls used for that
49:22 <Spaceshot> avatar, he was even using that !save function when he was playing IRL
49:26 <tristen> yeah that was an unintended benefit!
49:30 <Spaceshot> you probably didn't see it, but being next to him I did XD
49:43 <tristen> i needed a highlighter to mark the d20 rolls!
49:49 <Spaceshot> yea
50:15 <tristen> and maybe i shoulda printed landscape too, but hey...
50:29 <tristen> i wasn't going to spend ANOTHER eighty cents
51:00 <tristen> or possibly (gasp) even a DOLLAR
51:07 <Avatar> I did see it, I just said I did
51:30 <Avatar> tristen: I have to cut and paste mine into a word document and add columns and remove margins and shit
51:35 <Avatar> and change the font to super small
51:46 <Avatar> super small is fine for me to read it, but others have complained when looking at it
51:49 <tristen> word? what is this thing you speak of "word"?
51:56 <Avatar> yeah
52:10 <Avatar> notepad isn't very accommodating
52:14 <tristen> heheh yeah 
52:17 <Avatar> I don't want a 6 page character sheet
52:58 <tristen> yeah i'll work on printing out my stuff nicely before the con
53:25 <Avatar> well I mean each to their own if you don't mind it
53:37 <tristen> i must say a tablet would be freaking awesome
53:38 <Avatar> for arcanacon I was getting all my characters ready
53:45 <Avatar> and 6 pages x 4-5 characters was tooooooo much
53:58 <tristen> yep
54:04 <Avatar> tablet/laptop really seems like the way to go
54:20 <tristen> yeah i think i over-read some discussion here on the topic
54:24 <tristen> laptop = wall
54:29 <tristen> tablet = polite
54:30 <Avatar> yeah
54:32 <Avatar> did it bother you
54:37 <Ballig> I don't think laptop is a wall at all
54:39 <tristen> hell no!
54:49 <Spaceshot> depends on the laptop I say
54:53 <Spaceshot> or where you place it
54:54 <Avatar> spaceshot seemed to have the best setup
55:01 <Spaceshot> I do love my tablet laptop
55:10 <Ballig> yeah I use a 10.1" tablet with a keyboard dock
55:16 <Ballig> looks like a tiny laptop
55:16 <Avatar> I mean even without the swivel-turn-it-into-a-tablet thing
55:23 <Spaceshot> yea it's kind of like that ballig
55:23 <Avatar> as a laptop it was no issue
55:25 <tristen> and i suppose it could be an advantage (avoiding eye contact with the dm when he rolls out a particularly gnarly beast)
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55:37 <Avatar> did you have trouble seeing the map
55:39 <Ballig> how big is your laptop
55:41 <Avatar> maybe you were in a fortunate seat
55:43 <Ballig> that it actually blocks your view
55:46 <Spaceshot> 14.1
55:50 <Spaceshot> I think
55:52 <Spaceshot> or a bit smaller
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56:31 <tristen> hey are we all registered for the con now?
56:33 <Ballig> maybe you guys play on smaller tables than we did
56:46 <Spaceshot> we should
56:53 <Spaceshot> I'm not yet XD
57:09 <tristen> man i trust you're going?
57:17 <Spaceshot> I hope so
57:18 <Avatar> at least 3 of us are
57:20 <Spaceshot> all depends cash wise
57:23 <Avatar> is mekkis coming
57:30 <tristen> c'mon dude you can do it!
57:32 <Avatar> is thelen coming
57:32 <Mekkis> yes
57:43 <tristen> excellent mekks!
57:50 <tristen> i dunno about thelen
57:57 <tristen> i'll ask him now
57:58 <Avatar> I will harass him
58:09 <Avatar> well I will harass him later
58:10 <Ballig> I already hassled him today
58:13 <Ballig> he said he lost interest
58:19 <Avatar> for conquest?
58:23 <Ballig> for D&D
58:47 <Ballig> he says "all the mechanics puts [him] off"
58:50 <Spaceshot> are we team registering?
59:00 <Ballig> I suggested that he got bored playing the same fighter over and over
59:01 <Avatar> I don't think teams does anything
59:05 <Avatar> darkwhite knows who we are
59:32 <Avatar> we've talked about how it's better if we split up anyway
59:45 <Avatar> we'll still end up playing some games together
59:53 <Avatar> just probably unlikely as a full group
00:24 <tristen> i think we get blown around by the winds of fate/modules played
00:46 <tristen> or at least we did last time
00:49 <tristen> a bit
00:50 <Ballig> well when you split up you guys come back with games you can run in here for the rest
01:06 <Ballig> rather than all play in the same game, and then come back here and can't run it because half the people who would play have already played it
01:14 <Avatar> some of the tables were playing stuff we'd already played
01:31 <Avatar> I think the only modules we could play were shades 3, sewer dragons, QFP 1-2-3 and echoes
01:42 <Avatar> there wasn't anything else being run I don't think
01:46 <Avatar> except maybe some higher level stuff
02:48 <Ballig> yeah, I could have played more this weekend if I have a level 7+ character
03:37 <Avatar> maybe we should press our characters to getting to level 7
03:43 <Spaceshot> I'm in a good boat then
03:44 <Avatar> the higher level ones
03:57 <Spaceshot> I've only played 4 modules XD
04:13 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, you should have started years ago!
04:29 <Spaceshot> I should have
04:41 <Spaceshot> but before coming to melbourne, most of my weekends, if not all, were full
04:48 <Ballig> with what?
05:00 <Spaceshot> either family stuff, or tournaments
05:18 <Ballig> choosing to play another game over PFS isn't really "all my weekends were full"
05:24 <Ballig> but more "I made a choice not to play PFS"
05:25 <Ballig> :p
05:41 <Spaceshot> they were alternatively full
05:43 <Spaceshot> semantics
06:36 <Ballig> it's a pretty important difference
06:39 <Ballig> snypt can say his weekends are full
06:44 <Ballig> because he works
07:00 <Spaceshot> I don't care?
07:04 <Spaceshot> semantics are semantics
07:33 <Ballig> can't dismiss it by virtue of being semantics alone
07:46 <Spaceshot> sure I can
07:48 <Spaceshot> Just did
08:03 <Ballig> not legitimately
08:47 <tristen> !findchar Ava
08:50 <diebot> tristen, Character: Ava, number: 345( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=345 )
08:59 <Spaceshot> haven't updated her to level 3 yet
09:03 <tristen> ah
09:06 <tristen> was going to ask
09:31 <Spaceshot> I can pretty simply though
09:32 <tristen> cool so she's same level as oskar
09:36 <Spaceshot> yup yup
10:10 <Spaceshot> I only need to get selective channel feat, add hp, add skill points, get planer resistance
10:17 <Spaceshot> and buy stuff
10:49 <tristen> awesome
10:56 <tristen> good char that
12:10 <tristen> correction: a bloody good char that
13:16 <Spaceshot> yea, can't efectively hit things yet
13:26 <Ballig> don't /necessarily/ need to
13:29 <Spaceshot> and will probably drop the buckler
13:30 <Ballig> Artimus does well with what he has
13:43 <Spaceshot> I do have +4 TAB at level 3
13:44 <Spaceshot> could be enough
13:49 <Spaceshot> as a secondary action
14:01 <Ballig> do you have any level 0 spells that can do damage
14:14 <Spaceshot> I use the cleric spell list
14:17 <Spaceshot> spontanously
14:22 <Ballig> so no
14:26 <Spaceshot> yup
14:28 <Avatar> did you guys realise there is armor in UC that any arcane spellcaster can wear
14:31 <Spaceshot> and I have no dex XD
14:39 <Spaceshot> really?
14:41 <Ballig> Avatar: I don't think it's PFS legal
14:47 <Ballig> at least, there was something in there that wasn't
14:48 <Avatar> seriously?
14:54 <Ballig> I smacked Mort for using it without checking
15:10 <Ballig> but there was something else that could be used
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15:23 <PaulHarris> looooooooollllllllllllllll
15:26 <Spaceshot> Avatar: there is armour in CRB that arcane casters can wear too, it's called mithril
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15:33 <Avatar> it's legal
15:35 <Ballig> `ban PaulHarris
15:36 * ChanOP sets ban on *!*[email protected].*
15:52 <Avatar> only certain gun stuff from UC isn't legal as far as equipment goes
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16:01 <Avatar> Spaceshot: this armor costs 3gp
16:14 <Avatar> or 30gp if you want the fancier looking stuff
16:15 <Spaceshot> I would say it's not allowed
16:20 <Avatar> there's two of them with identical stats
16:22 <Avatar> it is allowed
16:56 <Ballig> there's a uh
17:00 <Ballig> like paper armour or something
17:07 <Ballig> it gives +1 AC, from memory, and has 0% ASF
17:09 <Ballig> and I think 0 ACP
17:17 <Avatar> it's called a haramaki
17:31 <Avatar> p204 for proper stats, but it's also listed in the armor table earlier on
17:35 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/resources
17:37 <Avatar> not listed here
17:56 <Ballig> yeah
18:01 <Ballig> then that wasn't the one I saw that wasn't allowed
18:11 <Ballig> it's a good idea to wear it
18:14 <Ballig> it'll be useless when you have mage armour
18:19 <Ballig> but it might save your life if you get hit without mage armour !
18:24 <Avatar> oh yeah, doesn't stack
18:34 <Avatar> I didn't think of that
18:49 <Spaceshot> haha, monk armor
18:50 <Spaceshot> XD
18:58 <Spaceshot> wait... does it count as armor?
19:03 <Ballig> it does count as armour
19:15 <Ballig> the only reason wizards can wear it is because there's no ACP and 0% ASF
19:26 <Ballig> so even though you would normally take the ACP as a penalty to attacks etc, that's 0
19:28 <tristen> if say you spend 4k on a belt of dex +2, is it as simple as spending 14k upgrading it to +4 (normally 16k)?
19:41 <Brunius> It is
19:48 <tristen> ah sweet
19:49 <Ballig> you pay the difference
19:53 <tristen> cool cool ta
19:57 <Brunius> You can even upgrade it to that one that gives you multiple abilities
20:14 <Ballig> so if +2 is 4k and +4 is 16k, you pay 12k to upgrade it
20:28 <tristen> yeah no worries - but i've got to get oskar running around naked again
20:41 <Ballig> well you said 14k
20:44 <Ballig> so I was correcting you :p
20:53 <tristen> oh yeah soz
21:41 <Brunius> Mekkis: Mike Brock has requested players don't set out to break the system.
22:04 <Ballig> ha
22:40 <tristen> why not? that'll just tighten it up won't it?
22:46 <Spaceshot> is it light armor?
22:54 <Spaceshot> because it requires a feat still :P
22:59 <Avatar> Brunius: link
23:04 <mort-> He reached the point he is better off on dex bonus
23:09 <Ballig> Spaceshot: it doesn't require a feat
23:12 <Brunius> I can't remember man
23:17 <Avatar> :(
23:21 <Brunius> It was a while back
23:22 <Avatar> that was an important one
23:22 <Brunius> Look it up
23:33 <Ballig> Spaceshot: the penalty for wearing armour you aren't proficient in is that you take the armour check penalty to your attack rolls and any skills that require movement
23:38 <Spaceshot> oh
23:39 <Ballig> because the ACP is 0, that has no effect
23:39 <Spaceshot> hahaha
23:46 <Mekkis> Brunius, I don't
23:58 <Brunius> It's just accidental, is it?
24:04 <Ballig> you can do that with masterwork leather too, but it still has ASF
24:05 <Mekkis> yep
24:08 <Ballig> so no good for wizards
26:19 <Avatar> I wouldn't mind uptiering a game with Snickers
26:42 <Ballig> you have to be really careful about what scenario you uptier
26:47 <Ballig> even if you have higher level characters in the party
26:55 <Avatar> yeah I know
27:00 <Avatar> there's always pretty big risk
27:03 <Avatar> Snickers is a spellcaster too
27:08 <Avatar> = low hp
27:11 <Ballig> yeah
27:44 <Brunius> I wouldn't mind uptiering with Bairaq
27:50 <Brunius> We should uptier moar
28:08 <Ballig> are you ready to die horribly
28:10 <Avatar> it's quite possible we are just getting cocky after seeing what happened at RBT
28:32 <Brunius> Possibly
29:42 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/oE6kw.jpg
29:44 <Ballig> I want that book
30:10 <Brunius> ha
30:27 <Spaceshot> yea probably
30:34 <Ballig> although looking at the pictures, it seems to focus a lot on things clearly written by foreigners
32:00 <mort-> Really
32:11 <Avatar> How to Becoming A GENIUS
32:15 <Ballig> ha
32:22 <mort-> How has your uptiering experience so far been
32:44 <Ballig> the only one I can remember being uptiered is... the caravan one?
32:45 <mort-> I think if you have like 5 people on the table by all means up tier?
32:45 <Avatar> trying to think of the last time I did it
32:54 <Avatar> prince of augustana was uptiered
32:57 <mort-> We did the prince
33:02 <Ballig> yeah but we had higher level characters
33:02 <mort-> Up tiered
33:08 <Ballig> in fact, the only person lower than the tier was mort I think
33:11 <mort-> Was easy from my point of they
33:14 <mort-> View
33:15 <mort-> Lol
33:22 <mort-> All i got was a little whipped
33:41 <Avatar> I think brunius and I might have uptiered shades of ice
33:49 <Brunius> One of them
33:50 <mort-> Song of sea witch we up tiered
34:01 <mort-> Not sure how good that idea was
34:13 <mort-> Those monsters weren't nice
34:27 <Avatar> I thought song of the sea witch was great after we uptiered
34:42 <Ballig> were you all below tier?
34:50 <mort-> It wasn't the last one that was that scary though
34:51 <Avatar> yeah I think so
34:54 <Ballig> how many people?
34:57 <mort-> Was the second last one
34:58 <Avatar> 4
35:02 <mort-> Yeah
35:05 <Ballig> seems like a pretty unique scenario
35:07 <mort-> You need more people
35:13 <Ballig> that you can uptier it when everyone is below tier and you only have 4 people
35:15 <Avatar> no you don't, we made it
35:26 <Avatar> you don't have to absolutely destroy a scenario for it to be okay
35:31 <Ballig> I bet you were told ahead of time that it would be easy enough to uptier
35:33 <Avatar> it should be a good challenge
35:40 <Avatar> we weren't
35:45 <mort-> The 2 nd last fight scared me
35:46 <Avatar> we decided to gamble it
35:48 <Ballig> then you got to the first encounter and realised it was too easy
35:53 <mort-> The last one was ...
35:56 <mort-> First was ok
35:58 <mort-> Solo
36:00 <Avatar> yeah 
36:04 <mort-> And there were 4 of us
36:11 <Ballig> you didn't just walk in saying "We will play this above our tier"
36:11 <Avatar> the first encounter felt easy and mekkis said we were okay to uptier
36:12 <mort-> Not that i did much but never mind
36:19 <Ballig> if you did that, you would honestly TPK more than 80% of the time
36:24 <Ballig> yeah see
36:26 <Ballig> you were told it was okay
36:27 <Avatar> I disagree with that
36:29 <Ballig> why did you say you weren't
36:33 <Avatar> he didn't tell us it was okay
36:36 <Ballig> er
36:42 <Ballig> "mekkis said we were okay to uptier"
36:44 <mort-> I said let the group decide
36:45 <Avatar> he told it was okay for us to do it
36:50 <Avatar> not that it was okay that we'd survive
37:04 <Avatar> he didn't say 'you guys can make it if you uptier'
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37:31 <mort-> Lol
37:36 <Ballig> if it was going to be a slaughter he would say "I strongly advise you against that"
37:37 <Avatar> we were talking about it and we asked if he'd allow it, and we talked about how it could easily get worse for the rest of the scenario
37:39 <mort-> Last part was funny
37:39 <Ballig> or, more likely, "are you Sure"
37:47 <mort-> Lol
37:57 <mort-> He said we were probably  up to it
38:05 <Ballig> yes see
38:07 <mort-> And i was quivering like a jelly ^^
38:08 <Ballig> mort is telling the truth
38:10 <mort-> Lol
38:11 <Ballig> and Avatar is fibbing
38:19 <Avatar> I don't remember him saying that
38:23 <mort-> I was like let the group decide
38:25 <Avatar> I remember us shaking in our boots
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38:46 <mort-> But hey I'm not here to spoil anyone's fun
38:50 <Ballig> and yeah, if you get to the first encounter and think "this is easy", it's a little less of a gamble
38:53 <Ballig> but it's still a gamble
39:05 <Ballig> if you do it before even getting to an encounter, you are probably going to TPK more than 80% of the time
39:08 <mort-> I tell you on zirul, jerus, khaz and oskar
39:14 <mort-> I want to up tier
39:18 <Avatar> I don't think that's true
39:20 <mort-> I think we are up to it
39:22 <Ballig> it is
39:31 <Ballig> especially if it's 1-2 and 4-5
39:35 <Avatar> 68% of statistics are made up on the spot
39:36 <Ballig> if it's 1-2 and 3-4 it is less likely
39:43 <mort-> 3-4
39:51 <mort-> But i say why not bring it on :p
39:59 <mort-> I want a proper healer though
40:08 <mort-> Zirul will fit nicely
41:03 <Avatar> having a healer who can channel heals selectively makes a huge difference to encounter difficulty
41:05 <Spaceshot> heh
41:11 <Ballig> yeah
41:14 <Spaceshot> Ava to the rescue
41:17 <Ballig> I used 2 of my 7 channels today
41:19 <Spaceshot> got selective now
41:29 <mort-> I suspect zirul can?
41:30 <Ballig> 1 level 1 spell, and 2 level 2 spells (only one of them was for a cure - cure moderate wounds)
41:41 <mort-> Channel selectively?
41:50 <Ballig> yeah
41:57 <Mekkis> keep in mind what "uptier" actually means
41:57 <Avatar> so you can heal mid-combat without healing bad guys
42:09 <mort-> What does it mean
42:11 <Brunius> Perhaps you should clarify for us
42:22 <Mekkis> playing at a tier higher than your character level
42:22 <mort-> We generally make a mess wherever we go
42:27 <Mekkis> not the APL
42:31 <Mekkis> but your character level
42:38 <mort-> You miss more
42:51 <Brunius> Mmm
42:52 <mort-> (Have to talk to jerus about it)
43:02 <Mekkis> for example, if I bring a level 4 character to a 6-7, that's uptiering, even if the rest of the party's playing 7th level characters
43:02 <Ballig> yeah
43:12 <Brunius> yeah
43:17 <Ballig> Avatar is talking about above APL too
43:18 <Avatar> yeah
43:32 <mort-> I think maneuver specialists are better at that kind of thing?
43:33 <Ballig> so like four level 2 characters playing a 3-4 subtier
43:43 <Avatar> yeah
43:49 <Avatar> I think a lot of us have level 3 characters now
43:53 <Avatar> so level 3's playing 4-5
43:54 <mort-> They train to cmb whatever they specialize in
43:56 <Ballig> and I'm trying to tell him you have to be careful about what scenario you do that in
44:04 <mort-> Really?
44:14 <mort-> I feel invulnerable with a healer :p
44:16 <mort-> Well
44:20 <Ballig> 3s playing 4-5 isn't THAT bad, although the guide does tell you to consider it strongly before deciding
44:29 <Avatar> mort: wait till a GM confirms a crit on you
44:35 <mort-> Lol
44:50 <Avatar> I need to get a paizo t-shirt
44:57 <mort-> If its 3 x at any tier id be dead anyway
45:03 <mort-> Makes no difference
45:10 <Avatar> speaking of, are the goblin ones still available
45:15 <Brunius> No
45:20 <Brunius> That's the second time you've said that
45:21 <Avatar> that's shit
45:24 <mort-> If you have someone like grolsh in party
45:38 <mort-> I think you  can uptier whatever shit
45:55 <mort-> Because he is generally invulnerable at lower levels
46:09 <Ballig> can you buy PFS shirts in Australia
46:12 <Ballig> or do you have to get them from the US
46:19 <Brunius> Gotta order the online
46:24 <Ballig> gay
46:27 <Avatar> maybe I can just get a cheliax one
46:28 <Brunius> They might have them at big cons, I guess
46:40 <Avatar> are they bringing out ones for the new factions
46:46 <Brunius> I dunno
46:52 <Brunius> I might get a Silver Crusade one if they do
47:07 <Avatar> depends on the colour :|
47:21 <Avatar> fucking taldor and osirion being red and yellow
47:22 <mort-> Ew
47:25 <Mekkis> Avatar, you should get a cheliax one
47:33 <Mekkis> it will aid any snipers looking for you
47:34 <mort-> Andoran ftw!
47:43 <mort-> Mek that's evil
47:43 <Avatar> ;)
47:57 * mort- smacks mek
47:59 <Avatar> it's kind of true, I mean it has a target on it
48:00 <Brunius> Why would snipers be looking for Avatar?
48:07 <mort-> I almost wish i could play at conventions
48:10 <mort-> Sigh
48:15 <Avatar> I'd consider getting the andoran one if I didn't know what andoran stood for
48:17 <Brunius> Fly down for conquest Mort- !
48:19 <mort-> I think it would be funny to waveg
48:22 <mort-> Waveg
48:24 <mort-> Watch
48:30 <mort-> I'm broke
48:31 <Avatar> a bird holding a sword is pretty cool, and white is decent
48:36 <Brunius> No you're not
48:38 <mort-> Oh for astral projection
48:39 <Brunius> Fly down for conquest !
48:58 <mort-> I will walk to the table
49:03 <mort-> With my lap top probably
49:10 <mort-> And say here are all my books.
49:21 <Spaceshot> mort-: that
49:26 <Spaceshot> that's what I'll be doing
49:29 <mort-> Then say. I'm a dnd noob
49:40 <Ballig> maybe we should import them to Australia
49:42 <Ballig> and sell them here
49:44 <mort-> So you can teach me how to roll dice
49:51 <Avatar> nobody is going to believe you are a dnd noob when you have fully optimised characters
49:52 <mort-> ^^
50:01 <Brunius> Maybe !
50:07 <mort-> I did the best job i could
50:17 <mort-> Or i say my friend did it for me :p
50:30 <mort-> Till i fail a will save and everyone will laugh
50:33 <Avatar> there's a year of the ruby phoenix t-shirt, but it looks a bit shit
50:44 <Avatar> I can't imagine wearing that in public
51:07 <Spaceshot> Brunius: I think the guy last weekend in blood waters was wearing the RBT shirt
51:22 <Brunius> He was wearing year of the ruby pheonix
51:28 <Brunius> Ashley
52:30 <Avatar> it's cheaper to buy ultimate magic from paizo than it is from good games
52:52 <Brunius> eeyup
53:13 <Brunius> That's cos it's good games
54:33 <Ballig> I had a quick look at the mind games here
54:42 <Ballig> they had some adventure path books on a table, and they had a few beginner boxes
54:47 <Ballig> but I didn't see any rulebooks
54:56 <Brunius> They had some when I was there
54:58 <Brunius> In October
55:05 <Avatar> it'd be interesting to see a character use the words of power in UM
55:28 <Brunius> But their main focus seems to be mtg
55:33 <Brunius> (with a side of warhammer)
55:36 <Ballig> I'd be surprised if they had adventure paths and beginner boxes and no rulebooks
55:41 <Ballig> I didn't spend as much time looking as I would've liked
55:52 <Spaceshot> you can't have words of power in PFS avatar
55:58 <Avatar> oh, can't you
56:01 <Spaceshot> nope
56:02 <Ballig> yeah it's not PFS legal
56:06 <Spaceshot> words of power makes magus good
56:08 <Ballig> a lot of UM isn't
56:16 <Spaceshot> you can get lots and lots of touch attack spells
56:18 <Avatar> maybe I should check that
57:08 <Avatar> I very nearly took spells for RBT that used a spellblight, apparently not PFS legal
57:39 <Spaceshot> yep
57:44 <Spaceshot> UM is half useful for PFS
58:32 <Spaceshot> they have wonderful archetypes though
58:42 <Spaceshot> except inquistor archetypes look very very average
10:42 <Avatar> I dunno, synthesist is in UM
10:46 <Avatar> that's not very wonderful
18:27 <Spaceshot> I want to try inquisitor, but the class at a glance looks so bland
18:50 <Ballig> it plays bland too
20:10 <Brunius> Why does everyone keep calling it RBT
21:09 <Ballig> because they want it to sound like a random breath test
21:49 <Brunius> That's what I kept thinking
21:50 <Avatar> er
21:50 <Avatar> RPT
22:01 <Avatar> it looks like a B
23:07 <Brunius> Does it just.
23:10 <Brunius> Night guys
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23:26 <Brunius_AFK> What an unbanner
26:18 <mort-> But don't you guys
26:27 <mort-> Find it weird to uh
26:34 <mort-> Play out your character in real life
26:45 <Avatar> I do
26:46 <mort-> Like how do you uh act gnome
26:49 <mort-> Or orc
26:54 <Avatar> oh it's possible
27:00 <Avatar> some people do it very entertainingly
27:01 <mort-> On irc I'm fine i think
27:12 <Avatar> I mean when I talk to the GM in character, I use my normal voice
27:14 <mort-> In real life. Well i haven't had any practice
27:21 <mort-> I can't switch
27:30 <mort-> God khaz is male lol
27:31 <Avatar> I couldn't even fake it
27:39 <mort-> Can't
27:45 <Avatar> it's impossible when you're trying to do it with a different gender
27:50 <mort-> Yeah
28:04 <mort-> But so how do you...
28:06 <mort-> Oh man
28:07 <Avatar> I mean I know what Buck sounds like in my head, but I can't do his voice
28:11 <mort-> I have so much to learn
28:23 <Avatar> as soon as I start to talk like my characters, they will sound wrong
28:36 <Avatar> on IRC it's easy
28:46 <mort-> I can't even split my self from my character that well
28:47 <mort-> Yeah
28:48 <Avatar> even the way Snake talked would've been hard
28:56 <mort-> I can do a nice one
29:20 <mort-> But in real life..
29:27 <mort-> Ah unlikely to happen
29:33 <mort-> But if i played in life
29:47 <mort-> I would tell my table i generally play on irc
30:05 <mort-> So a lot of things they may take for granted i won't know
30:08 <Spaceshot> gonna have a shower, be back soonish
30:11 <mort-> Like i would probably roll the dice
30:16 <Avatar> most people don't talk like their characters
30:17 <mort-> Off the table
30:27 <mort-> And someone will get to catch it
30:30 <Avatar> the ones who can do accents are the best
30:35 <mort-> Ah
30:48 <mort-> I know how khaz thinks
31:05 <Ballig> yeah the guys I played with this weekend didn't even really like to roleplay
31:08 <Ballig> like there was no IC speech
31:26 <mort-> I like picturing him as a dark guy with long slightly curly hair
31:37 <mort-> Id like him to be relatively skin
31:39 <mort-> Slim
31:51 <mort-> But his str makes it pretty unlikely
32:08 <mort-> Oh he has a hooked beak of a nose
32:18 <mort-> I know what he vigor
32:20 <mort-> Thinks
32:30 <mort-> But what he would sound like...
32:42 <mort-> Not something i can do
32:57 <mort-> And if those guys don't like to role play
33:11 <mort-> How do you even preach at them
33:23 <mort-> I'm very sure everyone of my characters
33:24 <Avatar> playing in character is not that hard if you don't care too much about what you say or how you sound
33:29 <Ballig> I preached at them anyway
33:30 <Avatar> you just switch from third person to first person
33:36 <mort-> Would really care
33:36 <Avatar> switch your words
33:55 <Ballig> basically if I was talking about Sarenrae, it was in character
33:56 <mort-> I don't think they would care
33:58 <Avatar> the thing is, people like other players who have great charisma at the table
34:04 <Ballig> I wouldn't bother talking about Sarenrae out of character
34:06 <Avatar> if you can be really entertaining, it makes it superfun for everyone
34:09 <Avatar> automatically
34:25 <Avatar> and you're expected to go all out, it's not a taboo thing
34:59 <Ballig> I think you should dress up as your character, Avatar
35:02 <Ballig> people will like you even more
35:13 <Avatar> as a gunslinger
35:15 <Avatar> haha
35:22 <Ballig> yes
35:24 <Ballig> with a real gun
35:33 <mort-> Its earmuffs
35:38 <Avatar> I have toy guns around the place
35:40 <mort-> I already decided what materials
35:45 <Avatar> no muskets though
35:46 <Avatar> just pistols
35:47 <mort-> I should get them off
36:03 <Avatar> I could point them at the GM and shoot whenever I roll hits
36:08 <mort-> Besides sarenae does not
36:24 <mort-> Discriminate against healing heathens
36:40 <mort-> My god is my business anyway
36:43 <mort-> :d
37:19 <Ballig> how do you know
37:25 <Ballig> maybe the path to redemption is hard and dangerous
37:41 <mort-> Hey my god likes me
37:45 <mort-> Seriously
38:28 <Ballig> can your god heal you
38:37 <mort-> Yes lol
38:45 <Ballig> effectively enough that you don't need a cleric?
38:47 <mort-> Its by his gift that i can uh heal
38:48 <Ballig> great, then we don't have a problem
38:48 <Ballig> :)
38:51 <mort-> In time
38:54 <mort-> Maybe.
38:58 <mort-> Maybe :d
39:07 <mort-> Spam clw wands ftw!
39:17 <Ballig> sounds like you have it all sorted
39:24 <mort-> Lol not at my level
39:56 <Ballig> don't be fooled: not at any level
39:58 <mort-> 50 percent chance of getting it right heh
40:09 <mort-> For clw not really in the future
40:14 <mort-> But not till thenthen
40:17 <mort-> Then
40:20 <Ballig> by the time you get it high enough to be reliable, CLW will hardly be worth the action spent
40:27 <mort-> I won't do it
40:31 <mort-> Socks will
40:45 <mort-> But socks won't be a weasel anymore
41:24 <mort-> God give me tasiv
41:35 <mort-> He can spam wands without sermons
41:51 <Ballig> wands won't keep you alive
42:57 <mort-> Lets have a good look at sarenaes tenets
42:57 <mort-> I'm sure no where does it say that you don't heal people who don't listen to sermons
43:40 <Ballig> a character isn't restricted to only doing things his god says he can do
43:53 <Ballig> stop telling me how to roleplay my character
44:00 <mort-> Lol
44:05 <mort-> Don't preach :d
44:08 <mort-> Ill be fine
44:18 <Ballig> I just told you stop telling me how to roleplay my character
44:22 <mort-> Or if you do expect earmuffs :d
44:25 <mort-> Ok
44:29 <Ballig> then expect not to be healed
44:30 <Ballig> sorted
44:41 <mort-> That's going to be a problem
44:42 <Ballig> you can't claim you didn't have prior warning
44:43 <mort-> :(
44:46 <mort-> Lol
45:11 <Avatar> are you doing that because she thinks she doesn't need in-combat healing
45:12 <mort-> Find someone else for heals then :(
45:34 <mort-> Won't say i won't get pwned
45:47 <mort-> That's about the best way to get pwned
46:40 <Ballig> she's being an idiot about how I roleplay my character
50:21 <Ballig> ps
50:25 <Ballig> whoops
52:24 <Avatar> what do you mean
52:28 <Avatar> what did you say mort
52:47 <Ballig> she keeps telling me to stop preaching when I play my cleric
52:56 <Ballig> because she didn't like being told that she shouldn't kill and desecrate an animal
53:15 <Ballig> and if you argue with the cleric about his beliefs, you are going to lose one way or another
53:37 <mort-> Lol
54:14 <Ballig> Artimus may just decide that only people who let the light of Sarenrae into their souls will receive her healing touch
54:21 <mort-> Lol
54:33 <mort-> We will see
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56:27 <Avatar> you can roleplay that you hate his preaching
56:40 <mort-> I certainly do!
56:45 <TruthToy> hello.
56:46 <Avatar> in character
56:52 <Avatar> TruthToy: roll up a character !!
56:55 <mort-> And that's why i was about to sprout earmuffs!
57:10 <TruthToy> first time playing pathfinder society.
57:21 <TruthToy> What's the difference between pathfinder and pathfinder society?
57:36 <Ballig> pathfinder society is the organised play version of pathfinder
57:52 <Ballig> there's an overarching set of rules to keep things fair, and your characters can play in modules run by any number of GMs
57:56 <mort-> I am a lemur.
58:21 <mort-> Say le-mur.
58:50 <TruthToy> i see, so you can keep your character?
58:56 <TruthToy> through campaigns?
59:06 <Ballig> it's one big campaign
59:09 <mort-> Through scenarios
59:13 <mort-> I am a wizard!
59:14 <Ballig> split into "scenarios" that take 4-6 hours
59:29 * mort- zaps truthtoy
59:32 <TruthToy> that sounds cool so it's one setting in itself?
59:37 <mort-> Now turn into a frog:)
59:39 <mort-> :(
59:42 <Ballig> yeah, also ignore mort she has ADHD
59:47 <TruthToy> +(
00:07 <mort-> He fort saved? :(
00:11 <mort-> Darnit.
01:03 <mort-> Aka baleful polymorph
01:27 <mort-> The principle is funny in theory but i wonder if anyone really runs around turning people into frogs
02:49 <Ballig> TruthToy: basically it's a good way to get in and play games of Pathfinder without having to try and fit into an established, long-running campaign
03:08 <TruthToy> so can I choose any faction?
03:24 <Ballig> PFS has a list of factions, you should read the pathfinder guide to organised play
03:29 <Ballig> you can download it for free from the paizo website
03:36 <mort-> Was about to say that
03:51 <mort-> But ballig beat me to it
04:03 <mort-> Then you can see which faction you want
04:17 <mort-> And oh yes. Don't roll a gnome
04:24 <Ballig> andoran, taldor, cheliax, osirion, qadira, sczarni, latern lodge, grand lodge, shadow lodge, silver crusade
04:27 <mort-> They are the root of all evil
04:27 <Ballig> are all the factions I can remember right now
04:29 <TruthToy> does anyone ever roll a gnome? ever?
04:34 <Ballig> I have a gnome
04:35 <mort-> Urm
04:36 <Ballig> mekkis has several
04:38 <TruthToy> oh.
04:43 <mort-> Actually I'm going to get lanced for it
04:48 <mort-> Its a player thing
04:58 <Mekkis> all my even numbered characters are gnomes
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07:53 <Mort-> Are you going to charge me again mek?
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08:10 <Mort-> Or
08:12 <Mort-> Oh
08:32 <Mort-> I just can't figure why anyone would play a halfling
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08:38 <Mort-> Over a gnome
08:40 <Mort-> I guess
08:54 <Mort-> If you have ze urge to be a small race
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10:16 <Mort-> Ok back to trolling threads
12:38 <TruthToy> i can't find the lodge and crusade factions
13:10 <Avatar> you're looking at the wrong PFS guide then
13:13 <Avatar> where did you get it
13:50 <TruthToy> i just searched in google
14:09 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
14:12 <Avatar> that's the one you need
14:30 <Avatar> add that to your cart and checkout
14:32 <Avatar> don't worry, it's free
14:52 <Avatar> you will need a paizo account too I think, but registering is pretty quick
14:58 <Avatar> it'll prompt you for it
15:59 <TruthToy> got it
18:12 <Mort-> Wuh!
19:21 <Mort-> i have been nice you see!
19:22 <Mort-> Reading character optimization guides
19:33 <Mort-> I think I'm spoilt
19:52 <TruthToy> i think i'll go for the lantern lodge =)
20:03 <Mort-> My answer to what do you do when your enemies come from range and you can't hit them
20:04 <Mort-> Don't tell us your faction
20:05 <Avatar> consider your traits when you choose a faction too
20:15 <TruthToy> yeh
20:18 <Avatar> you can tell us your faction
20:21 <Avatar> cmon mort
20:22 <Mort-> Some of us might be less friendly lol
20:31 <Mort-> In game faction is a secret
20:32 <Avatar> this is player knowledge
20:34 <Avatar> not character knowledge
20:41 <Mort-> Ah k
20:49 <Mort-> Time to memory wipe mort
20:58 <Mort-> Don't worry i love to help all factions
21:07 <Mort-> Except cheliax :p
21:25 <Mort-> Andorans and cheliax just don't get along
27:26 <Avatar> andorans are slave freers and cheliax are devil worshippers
27:33 <Avatar> there's nothing that says they don't get along instrinsically
31:47 <Mort-> Lol but generally the cheliax also have something about keeping slaves
32:39 <Spaceshot> cultist don't always mean slaves :P
33:10 <Avatar> cheliax pathfinders will generally not be keeping slaves
33:38 <Avatar> TruthToy: got a name for your character?
35:35 <Avatar> I think I'm going to take false life over glitterdust
35:40 <Avatar> I'm too scared
35:53 <Spaceshot> false life?
36:02 <Avatar> extra temp hp
36:02 <TruthToy> so lantern lodge dudes should have asian names?
36:06 <Avatar> 1d10+2 I think
36:13 <Avatar> you don't have to
36:32 <Avatar> the faction leader is from the east but the faction members can be anywhere in the pathfinder society
37:20 <TruthToy> i'm thinking Kai Wavio
37:32 <Avatar> is that a first name and a surname
37:36 <TruthToy> bothh
37:39 <Avatar> I just need a first name to set you up
37:50 <TruthToy> so Kai would be the first name
38:48 <Avatar> upload your sheet as you go if you want a hand with looking it over
43:23 <TruthToy> can i used the advanced player's handbook>
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43:52 <Avatar> yep
44:04 <Avatar> how long have you been playing pathfinder?
44:47 <TruthToy> only a couple games over the net
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46:44 <Avatar> over IRC?
47:45 <TruthToy> forum
47:49 <TruthToy> and skype
48:03 <Avatar> how did that go down
49:03 <Mort-> No!
49:23 <Mort-> Glitterdust rules
49:31 <Avatar> so does being alive
49:40 <Mort-> Anyway what will you roll
49:47 <Avatar> I only have 20hp at level 3 and I don't like it
49:51 <Mort-> If a monster can mess you up once
49:56 <Mort-> He can do it again
50:06 <Mort-> Blame your poor cons
50:08 <Avatar> what
50:16 <Avatar> I have a 12 con
50:19 <Avatar> that's not poor
50:39 <Mort-> 20?
50:45 <Avatar> yeah
50:51 <Mort-> I'm level 4 right
50:54 <Avatar> with all my favoured class points in hp
50:55 <Mort-> I have uh 31
51:05 <Mort-> Khaz will have the same
51:17 <Mort-> And ill get worried about him
51:42 <TruthToy> are there no deities in pathfinder society?
52:09 <Mort-> There are a too
52:13 <Mort-> Ton
52:17 <Mort-> Just check online
52:35 <Mort-> But generally i get my characters not to worship anyone
53:13 <Avatar> there are, but they're all in the core rulebook
53:23 <Avatar> the official one, not the SRD's
53:45 <Mort-> What idea have you about a diety
54:30 <Avatar> is Kai a cleric?
56:14 <Avatar> Erastil, Iomedae, Torag (LG); Sarenrae, Shelyn (NG), Desna, Cayden Cailean (CG), Abadar, Irori (LN); Gozreh, Pharasma, Nethys (N), Gorum, Calistria (CN)
56:41 <Spaceshot> you can technically have evil diety
56:49 <Avatar> Asmodeus, Zon-Kuthon (LE); Urgathoa, Norgorber (NE); Lamashtu, Rovagug (CE)
57:08 <Avatar> are you looking for particular domains or particular favoured weapons
01:04 <Mort-> You don't need a diety
01:17 <Mort-> If you aren't a divine class
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35:50 <Mekkis> I think Xanian will take the Leadership feat
35:56 <Mekkis> and get a cleric of Apsu
36:02 <Mort-> Lol
36:32 * Mort- hangs a sign no where near qadira please
36:35 <Mekkis> Glory Leadership Peace 
37:01 <Mekkis> don't you want Glory, Leadership and Peace?
38:46 <Mort-> We want to be left alone
38:53 <Mort-> And mind our own business
38:58 <Mekkis> Qadira?
39:00 <Mekkis> bullshit
39:06 <Mort-> Actually we want to take over taldor  :m
39:08 <Mort-> :d
39:13 <Mekkis> Qadirans want to take over the entire inner sea
39:19 <Mort-> But all the taldor faction people
39:24 <Mekkis> with monopolistic trade agreements
39:27 <Mort-> Are going to kill me after that :d
39:29 <Mort-> Oh yes
39:34 <Mort-> Trade pwns
39:46 <Mort-> So now you interested in any of our stuff?
39:58 <Mekkis> Deceased "collateral damage" Pitmaker is going to cause you to have an "accident"
40:13 <Mort-> We have the best horses in inner sea
40:17 <Mort-> Hey!
40:17 <Mort-> Be nice
40:23 <Mort-> I can't levitate yet
40:44 <Mort-> The first level 2 scroll i got was see invis
41:11 <Mort-> Why would deceased help xanian
41:20 <Mekkis> he wouldn't
41:22 <Mort-> Because he was paid to?
41:35 <Mort-> So why?
41:44 <Mekkis> unless he was somehow converted
41:47 <Mort-> Is he going to ensure i get an accident
41:56 <Mort-> Lol he is a nub
42:07 <Mort-> The dark side has cookies!
42:12 <Mekkis> Mytiazair converted
42:19 <Mort-> Chocolate chip ones!
42:33 <Mort-> Lol he is a nub too
42:34 <Mekkis> he used to worship Nethys
43:19 <Mort-> Lol
43:31 <Mort-> Not sure who you want to talk to atm
43:35 <Mort-> Heh
43:40 <Mort-> We are here you know
43:57 <Mekkis> now he worships Cayden Caelian
44:09 <Mort-> Gee i sound like a candidate for the asylum
44:40 <Mort-> Uh. To get drunk and wake up the next day as a god? :p
44:50 <Mekkis> yep
44:53 <Mort-> I guess there are worse gods to worship
45:05 <Mort-> Won't really comment on that
45:30 <Mekkis> Amazed that he passed the tests
45:30 <Mekkis> and unable to remember how he did it, he continued in
45:30 <Mekkis> his godly life much as he did when a mortal—f ighting
45:30 <Mekkis> for just causes, enjoying various alcohols, and not doing
45:30 <Mekkis> anything he didn’t want to do.
46:09 <Mort-> Yeah i read that entry by mistake
46:24 <Mekkis> plus, he gets free drinks!
46:42 <Mort-> Erastril for grull i think
47:01 <Mort-> Somehow i do not approve of drinking on casters
47:18 <Mort-> I seriously fear control issues
47:46 <Mort-> Mort doesn't have offensive spells to blow the tavern down so its quite safe
47:59 <Mekkis> hey!
48:00 <Mort-> Myz on the other hand...
48:09 <Mort-> I don't know what would happen
48:23 <Mekkis> Mytiazair wasn't responsible for the Massacre at the Temple of Cayden Cailean
48:44 <Mort-> The worst that would come out of mort would be colour spray
48:50 <Mort-> 2 magic missiles
49:27 <Mort-> And everyone in the tavern turns a bright golden colour
49:30 <Mekkis> remember THAT?
49:43 <Mort-> I didn't read about it
50:02 <Mort-> But at least the tavern wouldn't get burnt down
50:28 <Mort-> You already told me drunken disintegration disintegrates people instead of clothes
50:32 <Mekkis> Mytiazair STOPPED the temple of Cayden Cailean from burning down
51:07 <Mort-> Sure. But the temple wasn't standing after
51:14 <Mort-> Because he used sleet storm
51:35 <Mekkis> Mytiazair's never cast sleet storm
51:40 <Mekkis> and the temple's still there
51:49 <Mekkis> and gives Mytiazair free drinks
52:22 <Mort-> Lol
52:31 <Mort-> I was spinning tails :p
52:31 <Mekkis> (see transcript in #testone
52:36 <Mort-> But if you told 
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