// #eevblog — 2020-01-31
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01:26:22 <DHess_US> Some LEDs make good low leakage diodes if they are painted black.
01:26:39 <DHess_US> Not much reverse voltage though.
01:36:41 <rust_collector> hmm, my boss just called.
01:36:53 <rust_collector> wondering if I wanted next week off
01:37:14 <rust_collector> It is a bit early in the year to start nagging about that, isn't it?
01:37:41 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/K4df20K.jpg
01:38:03 <T3sl4> DHess_US: i see a red LED and i want it lower leakage.
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01:52:35 <DHess_US> LEDs are also good for load leakage when forward biased.
02:00:59 <hsn93> yeah, we were talking about forward bias leakage .. as diodes dont specify that in the datasheet actually ..
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02:13:15 <DHess_US> Sure they do ... as the conductance at zero volts.
02:13:19 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/JPo3cIe.gifv
02:14:04 <steve30> Meow.
02:14:13 <Lemon> woof
02:14:16 <DHess_US> So about 25 mS/mA x leakage
02:14:32 * steve30 is watching Futurama.
02:14:43 <steve30> Nibbler is cute :)
02:20:22 * T3sl4 passes a https://i.imgur.com/VpqI3pt.gifv to steve30
02:29:06 <steve30> aww
02:34:00 <hsn93> mS/mA ? ---> :) https://snipboard.io/b2IvCQ.jpg
02:35:36 <hsn93> fcck, (ctrl-Z) reached its limits !! :>
02:35:50 <hsn93> i savotaged the pcb layout ..
02:40:27 <Lemon> https://www.amazon.fr/Knipex-78-91-125-Electronic/dp/B002KHSB98/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&keywords=knipex+super+knips&qid=1580398728&s=hi&sr=1-1#customerReviews
02:40:39 <Lemon> hey peeps, do you think those would make great side cutters for electronics ?
02:40:50 <Lemon> to cut those through hole leads, etc
02:41:02 <Lemon> a bit expensive, but if it last decades...
02:41:38 <rust_collector> yes, get them. but get a few cheap ones too, because you will cut something hard and nick them
02:42:12 <Lemon> for the cheap ones, Im alright :> I needed a good one, thanks !
02:42:22 <rust_collector> get 2
02:42:29 <Lemon> 25 euros is a bit steep, when you consider I paid 30 for a waveform generator + a bnc cable lol
02:42:36 <Lemon> but thats the price for quality tools
02:42:54 <rust_collector> well, it is hard to snip things with a bnc cable
02:43:05 <Lemon> haha good point !
02:43:48 <hsn93> lol
02:44:49 <rust_collector> I like that extra springy thing on those. I wonder if I would take that off or not, after using them for a while
02:46:52 <rust_collector> do you have non-flush cutters?
02:50:42 <hsn93> neat or ugly layout ? ::: https://snipboard.io/KS4DtN.jpg
02:51:31 <Lemon> I do have non flush cutters yeah
02:51:37 <rust_collector> looks nice to me, will it work?
02:51:48 <Lemon> now I miss a banana to banana cable, and a banana with female on top to crocodile
02:52:36 <hsn93> rust_collector ,, it should
02:52:41 <rust_collector> I get weird pictures in my head with a woman and a banana on a crocodile.
02:52:42 <Lemon> so I can connect my multimeter to the power supply
02:53:14 <hsn93> EEs have wierd naming for connectors
02:53:34 <hsn93> male female acceptable .. then crocodile banana gone far :D
02:53:43 <rust_collector> different to western europeans?
02:54:16 <hsn93> everyone call them same?
02:54:26 <hsn93> banana plug
02:54:27 <Lemon> my current dmm probes are mueller ones
02:54:33 <Lemon> it seems great
02:57:02 <Lemon> https://www.conrad.fr/p/cordon-de-mesure-male-4-mm-pince-crocodile-voltcraft-msl-507-vc-8097045-1-m-noir-rouge-1-pcs-1619409 those croco are scary
02:57:17 <K> banana plug for life!
02:58:11 <rust_collector> now I wonder if bananas usually are straight, but just because, they only import the bent ones here
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03:14:17 <rust_collector> eyoh nothing
03:14:23 <Nothing\> hey rust_collector
03:14:35 <Nothing\> i think i figured out why my clamp meter isn't giving current readings on anything
03:14:42 <Nothing\> it's rated for 200-1000 amps
03:14:49 <rust_collector> it needs a battery?
03:14:53 <Nothing\> yet it says it's perfect for hobbyists
03:14:59 <rust_collector> right
03:15:03 <Nothing\> what the hell kind of hobbyist is gonna measure 1000amps
03:15:09 <Nothing\> other than photonic inductions
03:15:10 <rust_collector> there are lots of hobbies
03:15:21 <Nothing\> like executioner?
03:15:30 <rust_collector> sure, whatever is your thing
03:15:45 <Nothing\> lol that reminds me, i had a good idea for a movie the other day
03:15:56 <rust_collector> this will be bad, lol
03:16:11 <Nothing\> an EE who snaps one day and then goes around killing people using various things an EE uses
03:16:19 <Nothing\> like a high voltage capacitor bank
03:16:29 <Nothing\> or stabbing them with multimeter probes
03:16:43 <Nothing\> or soldering their eyes lol
03:17:32 <rust_collector> right. so, what is the weather like over there? do you stay inside most of the time?
03:17:45 <Nothing\> or maybe crushing their head with one of those gigantic magnets like what's his face has, brainiac
03:17:54 <Nothing\> lol yes i do stay in most of the time
03:18:05 <rust_collector> figured that
03:18:05 <Nothing\> weather's cold, overcast, as it usually is in winter
03:18:10 <Nothing\> sun rarely comes out this time of year
03:19:04 <rust_collector> so, how about the old classic electromagnets on a crane, like they use for crap metal and stuff? that is probably something you could abuse
03:19:29 <Nothing\> oh yeah, that'd probably be easier than a big neodiddlium magnet
03:19:55 <rust_collector> coconuts on a thick steel plate, put magnet on top, and see what happens
03:20:18 <Nothing\> i bet that would make a good youtube channel
03:20:24 <rust_collector> probably
03:20:29 <Nothing\> i mean, if people will watch a guy crush things on a hydraulic press
03:20:41 <Nothing\> you throw magnets into the mix and that's twice the draw
03:21:22 <rust_collector> now we have to find a way to put some sports, religion and politics in a press
03:21:40 <rust_collector> I think they should upgrade their press, btw
03:21:49 <Nothing\> i made a 10 turn coil about 2in wide the other day, i had some fun putting magnets in it and then running current through it
03:22:17 <Nothing\> they'll do anything to allign themselves with the magnetic field, so they jump around in a vain attempt to do so
03:23:01 <Nothing\> i had to use pretty big magnets to actually induce a measurable voltage in it though, you know, the old experiment where you push/pull a magnet through a coil and it induces a voltage
03:23:31 <Nothing\> i haven't actually watched the press channel in a while, it was never really my thing
03:23:38 <Nothing\> a few were pretty neat though
03:24:07 <rust_collector> they do some neat things on the other channel
03:24:20 <Nothing\> is he the same guy who does brainiac?
03:24:25 <Nothing\> that one with the magnets
03:24:27 <Nothing\> and lasers
03:24:34 <rust_collector> what?
03:24:52 <Nothing\> there's a channel called brainiac with a similar sounding guy that does videos on huge magnets and lasers mostly
03:25:03 <Nothing\> dutch or something
03:25:19 <rust_collector> ok, yes I have seen that, but I do not think there is a connection there
03:25:25 <Nothing\> ah
03:25:40 <Nothing\> i can never tell who does what channels now, except simon whistler
03:25:42 <rust_collector> the press channel is from finland
03:25:43 <Nothing\> he's everywhere
03:25:47 <Nothing\> oh that's right
03:26:05 <Nothing\> i like finnish accents, they're easy to imitate
03:26:16 <rust_collector> ok, who is mr simon?
03:26:42 <Nothing\> he's the guy who does top tenz, biagraphics, geographics, today i found out, business blaze and one other i can't remember
03:27:35 <Nothing\> i don't care for top ten type videos, but his are alright for those times i wanna shut my brain off or watch something i don't particularly have to pay close attention to
03:27:52 <rust_collector> hmm, bald skinny guy, who looks exactly like 1 or 2 of the other "i am a nerd" channels?
03:28:07 <T3sl4> bisqwit?
03:28:21 <Nothing\> yup
03:28:27 <T3sl4> if you like finnish accents and programming, that is
03:28:28 <Nothing\> that's the guy
03:28:47 <Nothing\> i'll have to check that out
03:30:48 <Lemon> so in france, our dear president made a new law, which consist of having us pay 0 euros if we were to have our tooth cared for
03:31:01 <Lemon> my mother got 4 tooth to be replaced, guess what ?
03:31:05 <Nothing\> nice!
03:31:07 <Lemon> she have 4k euro to pay
03:31:12 <Nothing\> jeeez
03:31:14 <Nothing\> implants?
03:31:22 <Lemon> before that law, it would have been around 500 euros
03:31:28 <Nothing\> maybe she gets reimbursed later?
03:31:30 <Lemon> yeah composite
03:31:32 <Lemon> nope
03:31:36 <Nothing\> damn dude
03:31:40 <Lemon> its 5k she got 1k reimbursed
03:31:46 <Lemon> nice president thanks
03:31:51 <Lemon> it was a nice trick
03:32:07 <Nothing\> i've had several thousand dollars worth of work done on mine this year but i didn't pay anything because i get special benefits
03:32:10 <Lemon> now every dentist refuses to use 'cheap implants' so its not reimbursed
03:32:14 <Nothing\> it's not standard for canadians, but i get it
03:32:25 <Lemon> and she pays 75 euros per month
03:32:32 <Lemon> to avoid those kind of spendings
03:32:53 <Lemon> its a big fat joke really
03:33:00 <Nothing\> the only shitty thing is i had to lose all of my lower molars, so i'm just left with 2 pairs of premolars on the bottom because i needed crown, which weren't covered
03:33:04 <Lemon> Im scared because I have three tooth to be removed soon
03:33:11 <Nothing\> dude, don't be
03:33:14 <Lemon> ha shiet
03:33:18 <Lemon> all molars for me too
03:33:23 <Nothing\> i was terrified too, but i just had 2 extractions and it was perfectly fine
03:33:23 <Lemon> (those three I mean)
03:33:35 <Nothing\> got some nitrous and some ativan and i didn't even notice him doing anything
03:33:37 <Lemon> ho im not terrified by the operation itself, but by the price I might pay :>
03:33:44 <Nothing\> ah
03:33:54 <Nothing\> well let's see how much mine would have been
03:34:11 <Lemon> I got one removed with just a local anesthesie
03:34:15 <Lemon> anesthesit ?
03:34:18 <Lemon> I dont know the word
03:34:21 <Nothing\> $88.69 a piece
03:34:27 <Lemon> it was kinda weird I could feel him pulling it out
03:34:29 <Nothing\> anesthetic
03:34:49 <Nothing\> yeah i remember when i got one done when i wasn't drugged up, i felt a sorta crunching sensation
03:34:53 <Nothing\> then a vague nerve pain
03:35:04 <Lemon> yeah but what a relief once it was out...
03:35:04 <Nothing\> but these ones, i didn't feel a thing
03:35:13 <Nothing\> i was right drugged up though
03:35:18 <Lemon> I never had such a pain before and I got through some shitty things in my life
03:35:28 <Nothing\> not even bowel cramps?
03:35:38 <Nothing\> cuz those are some of the worst pains i've ever felt personally
03:35:42 <Lemon> ho it was nothing compared to it
03:35:56 <Nothing\> heh i had a 4in knife stuck in my leg once
03:36:01 <Nothing\> funnily enough it barely hurt at all
03:36:02 <Lemon> I got multiple broken ribs, toes, I pissed blood and gravels
03:36:15 <Lemon> but that teeth..
03:36:23 <Lemon> I swear I was on the verge to remove it myself
03:36:24 <Nothing\> even when it healed at its worst it just felt like somebody punched me
03:36:31 <Nothing\> oh you mean from the infection?
03:36:36 <Lemon> ha yeah a friend told me that too
03:36:39 <Lemon> well it was a molar
03:36:48 <Lemon> broken in multiple parts, and going into the flesh
03:36:56 <Lemon> and an infection ofc
03:36:58 <Lemon> on top of all that
03:37:06 <Lemon> and I couldnt find a dentist avalaible to remove it
03:37:10 <Nothing\> yeah i've got/had multiple molars broken off right to the gumline
03:37:15 <Nothing\> nothing left of the upper portion
03:37:19 <Lemon> at that time I was doing opioids, it wasnt even calming me
03:37:25 <Nothing\> yup, same
03:37:36 <Nothing\> i've had a long and storied history with opioids :/
03:38:04 <Nothing\> actually, they say if you're addicted to them, it can actually make you more sensitive to pain
03:38:06 <Lemon> yeah gladly it was intense for me but not that long, only around 7 years
03:38:24 <Lemon> you're free of them now ?
03:38:29 <Nothing\> i went on methadone myself, been on it for... over 5 years now
03:38:31 <Lemon> its been almost three years now for me
03:38:36 <Lemon> ha same
03:38:50 <Lemon> 240mg every two days
03:38:59 <Nothing\> i'd like to taper off, but i've been going through legal shit lately and am going to jail next week, so i'll do that after i get off of it
03:39:15 <Lemon> ho shit dude !
03:39:17 <Nothing\> jeez man, i WAS taking 80mg once a day, but that didn't even last me 12 hours before i started getting sick again
03:39:23 <Lemon> not for long I hope ?
03:39:27 <Nothing\> so i got it split into 40mg twice a day
03:39:46 <Lemon> because you got fast metabolics
03:39:46 <Nothing\> no, not too long, i'm looking at 3 months minimum, 2 years maximum, but i doubt they'll do that long
03:40:00 <Nothing\> i figure probably 3-6 months (fingers crossed)
03:40:02 <Lemon> that really sucks :/
03:40:07 <Nothing\> yeah tell me about it
03:40:08 <Lemon> I'll pray for you buddy
03:40:15 <Nothing\> thanks man, that means a lot to me
03:40:34 <Lemon> what is your name ?
03:40:42 <Nothing\> it's been going on for 2 years now
03:40:46 <Nothing\> eric
03:40:56 <Lemon> I'll be sure to remember it !
03:41:07 <Lemon> I really hope it wont last long
03:41:08 <rust_collector> funny how you would not get any time at all for doing what you did 20 years ago. Maybe someone would think you were kind of an ass, but that would be it
03:41:25 <Lemon> and you'll be in a safe place
03:41:32 <rust_collector> heh, well
03:41:33 <Nothing\> rust_collector: tell me about it lol that really pisses me off tbh
03:41:36 <Lemon> what happened if I can ask ?
03:42:07 <Nothing\> Lemon: couple years ago i was messed up on ativan and slapped my brother's ex on the ass while coming onto her
03:42:21 <Nothing\> and sent her some lude messages on facebook, which pretty well sealed my fate
03:42:30 <Lemon> thats it ? seriously ?
03:42:37 <Nothing\> yup, sexual assault
03:42:46 <Lemon> seriously...
03:42:54 <Nothing\> hence mandatory minimum 3 month sentence
03:43:01 <Lemon> well for that here, you'd get what, 300 euros to pay ?
03:43:19 <rust_collector> You see, nothing is not a politician, so he can not get away with anything
03:43:22 <Nothing\> woke up at 8am to cops in my room shining a flashlight in my face announcing their presence
03:43:30 <Nothing\> within 2 minutes they had me in the back of a car
03:43:38 <Lemon> what the fuck
03:43:46 <Nothing\> i spent the day in lock up until court the next morning, they fed me nothing but granola bars
03:43:56 <Lemon> and people are hitting on their wives for years, get nothing
03:43:59 <Nothing\> which made me throw up violently cuz i have digestive problems
03:44:30 <Nothing\> yeah it's fucked up, but it is what it is
03:44:37 <Lemon> I mean, ok you did a mistake
03:44:41 <Lemon> but worthy of prison ?
03:44:44 <Lemon> no fucking way
03:45:01 <Nothing\> i certainly know of people who have gotten away with much worse
03:45:10 <Nothing\> shit, look what epstein got away with the first time
03:45:20 <Nothing\> i mean he still did time, but only about as much as what i'm facing
03:45:26 <Nothing\> for fucking sex trafficking
03:45:37 <Lemon> dude we have pedophiles going out after 2 years
03:45:44 <Nothing\> exactly
03:46:09 <Nothing\> it doesn't help that my lawyer didn't do shit
03:46:34 <Nothing\> in the 18 months it was in court, i didn't meet with him until 2 weeks before my plea hearing and only for an hour
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03:46:55 <Nothing\> he basically said "you sent messages so there's nothing you can do"
03:47:05 <Lemon> yeah thanks buddy really
03:47:07 <Lemon> what a guy
03:47:12 <Nothing\> which, i don't see how that equates to i slapped her ass without any reasonable doubt
03:47:22 <Nothing\> since i didn't mention anything about it in said messages
03:47:22 <Lemon> yeah how can they prove that
03:47:52 <Nothing\> in retrospect i should have fought it, but they had me on drug charges too for stuff they found during the search and seizure
03:48:04 <Nothing\> and i wound up taking a plea bargain to get rid of those charges
03:48:06 <Lemon> ha I see..
03:48:14 <Nothing\> otherwise i would have been facing 9 months minimum
03:48:27 <Lemon> thats better than nothing
03:48:33 <Lemon> lets hope you'll get the minimum
03:48:42 <Lemon> if you behave well you can go out before the 3 months ?
03:48:45 <Nothing\> so i took the plea deal for 3 months minimum, but there's still no guarantee that's what i'll get
03:49:00 <Nothing\> yeah, my lawyer seemed to imply i'd only end up doing 2, which isn't bad i guess
03:49:09 <Nothing\> all things considered, at least
03:49:11 <Lemon> lets just hope you'll be somewhere safe
03:49:16 <Nothing\> i won't be
03:49:28 <Lemon> yeah sexual assault..
03:49:29 <Nothing\> i looked into it, it's the most violent prison in the province
03:49:34 <Nothing\> yeha that too
03:49:36 <Lemon> thats really horrible
03:49:59 <Nothing\> they're severely understaffed, so they have 1 guard for 120 people and just put cameras everywhere instead
03:50:17 <Nothing\> and they spend most of the time on lockdown, locked in their cells with nothing to do
03:50:45 <Nothing\> i'm hoping maybe i could get my hands on a math book or something at least
03:51:14 <Lemon> yeah so its not totally lost time
03:51:20 <Nothing\> that's what i'm hoping
03:51:33 <Nothing\> and ime, suffering is the most efficient way to better oneself
03:51:51 <Lemon> thats not false
03:51:56 <Nothing\> it's certainly caused me to grow more than anything else
03:52:05 <Lemon> I admit my mistakes helped me too
03:52:32 <DHess_US> One of Simon's better videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPH7tKis3HU
03:52:38 <Nothing\> i also found god in the process, which has done wonders for my outlook on life and my sense of hope, which i usually have none of
03:52:56 <Nothing\> up till then, i was a staunch atheist
03:53:08 <Lemon> thats funny because I've been shitting on religion by whole life, and two years ago someone changed my mind
03:53:46 <Nothing\> Lemon: yup, story of my life
03:53:52 <Nothing\> DHess_US: heh i haven't watched that one yet
03:54:32 <Nothing\> although it wasn't someone, it was just all of this
03:54:57 <Nothing\> on account of some very specific things that happened wihch nobody would understand but me, very subjective stuff i'm sure you understand
03:55:18 <Lemon> yes totally
03:55:24 <Nothing\> i just figured there's no damn way it could be a coincidence
03:55:25 <Lemon> it was kinda the same for me
03:55:31 <Lemon> I feel you
03:55:40 <Lemon> I have one example
03:55:42 <rust_collector> I wonder what god you found. I like being like that
03:55:57 <Lemon> my father got a cancer, may of last year
03:56:16 <Lemon> and withing a month we learnt there would be no issues, he had at best 2 weeks to live
03:56:23 <Nothing\> rust_collector: i figured they're all the same god, or avatars/different aspects of the same god
03:56:34 <Lemon> and he told my mother, that he wanted to die without me seeing it
03:56:51 <Lemon> one night I was at my doctor place, and my mother called
03:57:04 <Lemon> I quickly understood it was the time, so I got in my car, quickly got to my home
03:57:09 <Lemon> and guess what ? almost no fuel left
03:57:33 <Lemon> so I couldnt speed up, I could just drive fast enough to come home but not to fast to avoid running out of fuel
03:57:48 <Lemon> and I got home, he was already away
03:58:01 <Lemon> the day after I took my car, 200km left of fuel
03:58:20 <Lemon> it was like, God heard my fathers wish, and did everything so I could not see him die
03:58:24 <Lemon> like he wanted to
03:58:37 <Lemon> it surely can be a coincidence
03:59:17 <Nothing\> yup, that's the sorta thing i mean
03:59:38 <Lemon> its a girl that made me change my mind, I met her at work
03:59:47 <Lemon> I was kinda impressed by how she behaved
03:59:55 <Lemon> so kind, so nice with everything, strong etc
04:00:00 <Lemon> I never met someone like that before
04:00:13 <Lemon> so I asked her, and she told me she found god a few years prior
04:00:22 <Lemon> I was a bit skeptic but curious
04:00:34 <Lemon> and the way she explained it to me was so easy to understand
04:00:41 <Lemon> nothing like what I knew before
04:01:03 <Nothing\> that's good, i find people don't understand it when i try to explain because it's a very subjective experience
04:01:18 <Lemon> it changed her life in a pretty good way, and she's not the kind of girl to talk about god in every sentence, far from that
04:01:27 <Nothing\> right
04:01:29 <Lemon> yeah thats hard
04:01:42 <Lemon> its almost the only person I keep seeing from time to time
04:01:48 <Nothing\> i figure though, if they don't understand, it's not my place to convince them, that's god's business
04:01:51 <Lemon> im not partying anymore
04:01:57 <Nothing\> they'll understand if/when the time is right for them
04:02:04 <Lemon> yeah exactly, everybody can believe in what they want
04:02:12 <Lemon> if someone wants some informations I will gladly give it
04:02:18 <Lemon> but I won't try to change someones mind
04:02:23 <Nothing\> exactly
04:02:52 <Nothing\> anyways, my mom just got home and i wanna spend some time with her while i still can
04:03:00 <Lemon> sure buddy !
04:03:12 <Lemon> take care
04:03:13 <Nothing\> it was really great talking with you though, i really appreciate it
04:03:23 <Nothing\> you too man, i hope to talk again
04:03:26 <Lemon> I do appreciate it too and I'll think about you !
04:03:33 <Nothing\> and thanks again for the prayers, it means a lot to me
04:03:46 <Nothing\> take care, man
04:03:47 <rust_collector> maybe you should do something about that tower of microwaves in the hall, if you want her to last a bit longer?
04:03:53 <Lemon> thanks a lot !
04:04:05 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector
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04:04:28 <Lemon> poor dude
04:04:40 <Lemon> I dont know how I'd feel if I knew that in a few weeks I'd go to jail
04:05:28 <rust_collector> I think, at some point you just realize it will happen, so you just accept whatever
04:06:19 <Lemon> yeah
04:06:34 <Lemon> but imagine being me, a tall but slim dude, pacifist, ultra sensible
04:06:43 <Lemon> I could have ended up in jail
04:06:54 <Lemon> simply with drugs
04:07:48 <rust_collector> well, you could meet your next dealer there. jail is a great place to find drugs
04:07:58 <Lemon> yeah sure xd
04:08:05 <Lemon> I have to confess something
04:08:15 <Lemon> a few weeks ago I found something, in my fathers desk
04:08:21 <Lemon> something that was mine a few years ago
04:08:36 <Lemon> something my mother found under my bed, and took it away
04:08:50 <Lemon> I thought they had simply destroyed it but no, its still intact
04:08:58 <Lemon> thats some synthetic cannabinoids
04:09:11 <Lemon> I used to smoke that, during two years maybe
04:09:34 <Lemon> yesterday night I wanted to know if I was forcing myself to not take it or if I actually wanted to smoke it again
04:09:39 <Lemon> so I tried some
04:09:44 <Lemon> but I didnt appreciate it at all
04:10:31 <rust_collector> I have never done any drugs for fun. Well, I did drink a bit every now and then, but that is it
04:10:47 <Lemon> they are fun at first, then its a hell
04:11:51 <rust_collector> I did a little bit of something, when I was driving long distance express things. but that was it
04:12:06 <rust_collector> so, on and off for a year and a bit
04:12:20 <Lemon> nothing major, thats great
04:13:29 <rust_collector> boss had 2 options, for us drivers. heh, it was an old school boss man.
04:13:51 <Lemon> its pretty common here too
04:15:33 <rust_collector> interesting times, but I probably wouldn't take that job now
04:16:44 <rust_collector> you never knew what/where you were going. you could be delivering nails and pain just down the road, or you could be on your way to italy to pick up....something
04:17:14 <rust_collector> and pain was supposed to be paint, but I guess pain was also an option some times
04:17:17 <Lemon> lol well, I guess its nice when you are young, not in couple
04:17:25 <rust_collector> right
04:18:17 <rust_collector> Some times I miss it, i would do a trip now and then, but not all the time. It is nice to be home every day
04:18:30 <Lemon> thats what I aim for
04:18:35 <Lemon> working at home, in my cosy lab
04:20:07 <rust_collector> I like working somewhere that is not at home. it is good to get out of the house. It also makes it nice to get back home, especially when the kids have filled any somewhat flat surface with dirty dishes and crap
04:20:36 <Lemon> hahaha I still get to discover that feeling
04:23:09 <Lemon> I want an analog multimeter
04:23:14 <Lemon> its neat to see variations
04:27:03 <rust_collector> and they just look better
04:29:50 <Lemon> yeah thats true
04:29:59 <Lemon> thats nice to have multiple multimeters to cross measurements
04:30:07 <Lemon> im really proud of my lil keithley
04:30:10 <Lemon> thats hard to find here
04:31:22 <rust_collector> a bench meter?
04:31:27 <Lemon> yeah
04:31:34 <Lemon> in really nice condition
04:31:42 <Lemon> 4,5 digits
04:31:48 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/1711597454.htm/
04:32:00 <Lemon> I like those metrix
04:32:35 <Lemon> wanna help me find one ? :> its fun to search for an item
04:32:48 <Lemon> I want to spend under 50 euros with shipping (usually count 5-10 euros)
04:33:09 <Lemon> I want it to be able to stand on my desk
04:34:12 <K> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Analog-Multimeter-Tester-USSR/323485598076?hash=item4b513e817c:g:MNEAAOSwYNlbuKg9
04:34:40 <K> this was quite sturdy according to my dad
04:34:47 <Lemon> hooo it looks neat :>
04:35:18 <rust_collector> yeah, that is cool, and it is not ugly black
04:35:34 <Lemon> hmm I like it black honestly :> especially in metal, that old vintage metal look
04:35:52 <K> dad had greenish one iirc
04:35:57 <rust_collector> yeah, but it is not in metal, is it?
04:36:22 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/1741808587.htm/
04:36:24 <Lemon> this kind for example
04:36:37 <K> no, it is plastic
04:37:38 <Lemon> 20 euros, its interesting
04:39:13 <K> https://www.ebay.de/itm/Vintage-Russian-USSR-Multi-Meter-Tester-Combination-Instrument-U4324-Boxed/254495034458?hash=item3b41160c5a:g:LAkAAOSwQLVeL1KZ
04:39:24 <DHess_US> https://spqrchan.xyz/.media/41ec8baccb7d1f7665532497a4391506-imagepng.png
04:39:37 <K> i have this one somewhere
04:40:16 <Lemon> looks pretty neat :> I would collect those things if I listen to me
04:40:44 <K> > https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/
04:40:48 <rust_collector> I like that one
04:40:53 <Lemon> ive seen this thread x)
04:41:22 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1712578894.htm/
04:41:40 <Lemon> ho wow https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1740043658.htm/
04:41:43 <Lemon> its in pretty condition
04:41:58 <DHess_US> I don't post there. I do not have a problem with 10+ Tektronix oscilloscopes.
04:43:57 <K> fwiw the last link i posted is for "export" version, hence the english instructions on the back
04:43:57 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1400588427.htm/
04:44:00 <Lemon> this one looks neat too
04:44:29 <K> this one looks nice
04:44:43 <K> also more sane (less of) test lead plug holes
04:44:43 <Lemon> but if I can get a metrix for 20-30 euros, I wouldnt mind honestly
04:44:47 <Lemon> they are built like tanks
04:45:03 <rust_collector> DHess_US, if I remember, you just have a flimsy bench issue, not a too many scopes issue
04:46:43 <rust_collector> well, mr Lemon... As you are french... I would say, that yes, your tanks are probably built like a multimeter....
04:47:06 <Lemon> haha I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say it xd
04:47:29 <rust_collector> happy to make your dream come true
04:48:54 <rust_collector> It is interesting, you have made a lot of great things in france, but the great things never get popular anywhere else
04:49:29 <K> because it's all in french
04:49:50 <K> the market it big enough not to bother
04:50:15 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1708027461.htm/
04:50:17 <Lemon> look at this
04:50:20 <Lemon> both for 30 euros
04:50:37 <Lemon> but too much holes
04:51:14 <rust_collector> I like that one more than some of the other black plastic ones
04:51:42 <Lemon> yeah but they dont look too practical
04:52:40 <Lemon> I want my lab to look somewhat vintage
04:52:48 <Lemon> I trust old pieces of gear more than new chinese stuff
04:52:53 <Lemon> even if theres good chinese stuff ofc
04:53:05 <Lemon> but for the price, I prefer my 2245a than a rigol for example
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04:59:14 <DHess_US> rust_collector, oddly enough ... one of my benches collapsed a couple months ago.
05:00:09 <DHess_US> https://external-preview.redd.it/im28_smIrZVYMoeDQRkkd0J99CVW0lbdgOhG39DdXtU.jpg?auto=webp&s=10b1f7b107392db7a7b13c4af249480385af0f09
05:02:46 <rust_collector> I think I remember that
05:08:04 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/iwBEp2a.jpg
05:20:51 <rust_collector> ok, it just started to snow. that is not ideal
05:31:12 <Lemon> I sent a couple messages, to some peeps with cool analog multimeters for sale
05:31:16 <Lemon> we'll see who accepts to send it
05:32:02 <rust_collector> what is your knd of music, Lemon?
05:32:21 <rust_collector> nyan cat 10 000 hours?
05:32:30 <Lemon> honestly I like many things, from french rap to classical, metal, rock, some kind of techno etc
05:32:41 <rust_collector> ah, good
05:32:41 <Lemon> who hates a nyan cat 10k hours ?
05:32:53 <rust_collector> some people do.
05:34:05 <Lemon> theres so many things I want to buy thats terrible
05:34:15 <Lemon> those nice analog pieces of gear for 20 euros a pop
05:34:27 <Lemon> I must resist to start a new collection
05:34:31 <rust_collector> meh, just get what you know you need.
05:35:06 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/967450115.htm/
05:35:09 <Lemon> now we are talking
05:35:32 <Lemon> wow 100 amps continuous
05:38:19 <Lemon> I will need to find a way to put my screens higher
05:38:23 <Lemon> so I can stack more gear :>
05:38:53 <rust_collector> you need to find a way to not need 3 screens
05:39:11 <Lemon> nah I need them too much, they are new (2 months maybe)
05:39:29 <Lemon> was a pretty nice price, 90 euros piece, 1080p 75hz, asus with some eye care feature
05:39:39 <rust_collector> blah blah blah
05:39:40 <Lemon> and 50 for the arm
05:39:43 <Lemon> :(
05:40:32 <rust_collector> I have this dell whateveritis 22", and I got it for free
05:40:46 <Lemon> close to what I had before :>
05:40:51 <rust_collector> and a bunch of other random screens, that I also did not pay for
05:41:19 <Lemon> I found a perfectly working pavillion desktop at the junkyard a few weeks ago
05:41:31 <Lemon> I will install a win 10 or something, and give it to someone who needs it
05:41:42 <Lemon> it got like 4gb ddr3, a 1tb hdd, pretty usable
05:41:43 <rust_collector> We had a cleanup at work. because we moved to a new building, and anything connected to a computer had to be replaced
05:41:55 <Lemon> ho thats neat
05:42:43 <rust_collector> I mean everything. if you had an old vga cable new in a box, you had to throw it out, and they would order a new one
05:43:13 <rust_collector> (like it being new in a box was not a hint that you did not need it)
05:43:16 <Lemon> I always dreamt of that
05:43:24 <Lemon> (https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/929156966.htm/)
05:43:26 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/929156966.htm/
05:43:33 <Lemon> so beautiful
05:43:47 <rust_collector> yeah, that one looks ok
05:44:12 <Lemon> 1600v max !
05:44:15 <Lemon> thats really neat
05:44:24 <Lemon> I asked him
05:45:57 <Lemon> I fear they will all accept to send it and pay via paypal
05:46:01 <Lemon> and I will have to make a choice
05:46:04 <Lemon> thats the worst
05:48:04 <Lemon> tommorow I will maybe receive the psu, and knipex cutters
05:49:17 <rust_collector> I am looking forward to you posting something about needing some more cables, because the knipex was so fun to test
05:49:36 <Lemon> haha its alright, I have a big box of salvaged cables :>
05:49:45 <Lemon> along with tons of components in fact
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05:59:52 <Ysjoelfir> hoi
05:59:57 <Lemon> hey :>
06:00:01 <rust_collector> eeyoh
06:00:56 <Lemon> so I sent msgs to those : https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/929156966.htm/
06:01:01 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1738644488.htm/
06:01:08 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1400588427.htm/
06:01:20 <Lemon> now we play the waiting game
06:01:36 <Ysjoelfir> so you are into analog multimeters?
06:02:05 <rust_collector> he is now
06:02:05 <Lemon> well I feel like its good to have one, for fluctuations, to cross measurements etc
06:02:12 <Lemon> and I must say they look dope :>
06:02:28 * Ysjoelfir has around 20 of those
06:02:40 <Ysjoelfir> I have no Idea why someone would like analog meters... :)
06:02:56 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/929156966.htm/ this one is really my favourite I think
06:03:31 <Lemon> really good shape, its in black ebonite
06:03:39 <Lemon> goes up to 1,6kv, and I'm sure it does
06:03:52 <Lemon> it looks heavy and large enough to sit on the bench
06:04:05 <Lemon> doesnt have 30 different plugs
06:04:22 <Lemon> for 40 euros with shipping, thats great I think
06:05:49 <Ysjoelfir> I have quite some Hartmann & Brazn xxxx-tavis
06:05:56 <Ysjoelfir> nice stuff
06:06:02 <Ysjoelfir> great engineering
06:07:28 <Lemon> ha there was none here
06:07:33 <Lemon> a lot of metrix
06:07:42 <Lemon> on the one I just linked, its 4mm banana right ?
06:08:15 <rust_collector> you "just" linked all of them!
06:08:26 <rust_collector> I think they might be the smaller one
06:08:38 <rust_collector> on the 477?
06:08:38 <Lemon> the last one I meant :>
06:08:41 <Lemon> yeah
06:08:55 <rust_collector> I have a feeling they are the old smaller one
06:09:18 <Ysjoelfir> hard to tell. could be 4mm, also could be this strange variety that just doesn't fit a 4mm plug
06:09:43 <Lemon> hmm yeah thats what I fear
06:09:49 <Lemon> the second one I really like is this one https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1738644488.htm/
06:09:55 <Lemon> and it seems to come with cables
06:13:23 <Lemon> the 477 is a bit too old I think
06:13:35 <Lemon> it states 10% of error on dc measurement
06:13:38 <Lemon> thats quite high
06:13:52 <Lemon> I dont need ultra precision, but well
06:14:11 <rust_collector> you needed it to see changes?
06:14:19 <Lemon> yeah thats true after all
06:16:33 <Lemon> the mx 430 should be a better choice, especially because of the 477 unknown connectors
06:17:04 <rust_collector> 477 is more than 430
06:17:10 <Lemon> :>
06:30:42 <Lemon> the lab is taking a good shape I think
06:32:08 <rust_collector> that is nice. now, how do you plan to blink your leds?
06:32:21 <Lemon> ho with arduinos ofc
06:32:30 <rust_collector> yesss!
06:32:47 <Lemon> nothing better than pluging arduinos
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06:34:16 <rust_collector> I need to find a neat project for an arduino with a dead usb. so ie something that can just start and run, without changing things all the time
06:35:06 <Lemon> hmm I did a small piano with a keypad and a pro micro some months ago
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06:36:19 <rust_collector> that name always makes me think of honda engine names
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06:40:08 <rust_collector> yes, I know some people get upset by comments like that
06:45:03 <Lemon> btw do you have some test gear ?
06:45:05 <Lemon> I never asked
06:45:16 <rust_collector> very little
06:45:26 <Lemon> show me show me show me
06:45:50 <rust_collector> I have an old scope, a crappy usb scope, random cheapie dmms...
06:46:15 <rust_collector> hmm, all my stuff is cheap crap.
06:47:51 <Lemon> well its still gear !
06:52:40 <rust_collector> hmm, I guess this is most of the things
06:52:42 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/drCkZjn
06:53:05 <rust_collector> I have a few more cheap dmms and probably some other crap
06:53:43 <Lemon> hooo thats neat !! I like the scope, and the chinese supply with analog galvanometers
06:54:04 <rust_collector> hmm, i don't think you can see the owon usb scope there, but it is wedged in between 2 shelves. and it is just 3 connectors
06:54:58 <rust_collector> the little china supply does ok, it has no adjustable current setting yet, but it cuts out and sounds an alarm if it is overloaded
06:55:45 <rust_collector> I did buy it just to see what it had in it, and maybe to modify to a more proper-ish supply some time.
06:56:28 <Lemon> ho thats interesting, I thought about upgrading some products like that
06:56:37 <Lemon> putting tighter tolerance resistors, better caps etc
06:57:00 <rust_collector> the ruideng in the hardboard box is a little "3005" with an equally chinese 36v switching power supply in the box
06:58:15 <rust_collector> the yihua supply is more or less a box with 2 meters and the banana jacks, lol
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06:58:29 <Lemon> well as long as it works :>
06:58:53 <rust_collector> a tiny tiny transformer, and iIrc, it had an lm324 running everything
06:59:28 <rust_collector> the board is very small, the transformer is tiny, so you have tons of room to build something else into it
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07:00:23 <Lemon> yeah perks of switch mode supplies
07:00:31 <Lemon> my cheap one must be the same
07:00:41 <rust_collector> it is not switchmode
07:00:43 <Ysjoelfir> re. sorry for the sudden leaving, was talking with the girlfriend. we took a look at a house we may rent
07:00:51 <Lemon> ho ?
07:00:52 <rust_collector> ah
07:00:54 <Lemon> no worries :>
07:01:14 <Ysjoelfir> So, Lemon... Did you decide which meter you want?
07:01:17 <rust_collector> I just assumed you found my comments distasteful and offensive, as usual
07:01:35 <Lemon> well I think the mx 430 would be a nice choice, but I'll wait their answers :>
07:02:06 <Ysjoelfir> yes, that was the real reason rusty, I just didn't want to hurt your feelings by tellung you
07:02:17 <rust_collector> the yellow and green meter was a christmas gift "from the kids" it is especially cheap and nasty, but... meh, it works
07:02:24 <Ysjoelfir> Lemon, maybe you would be interested in my H&B collection?
07:02:31 <rust_collector> Ah, but I know. I live for that
07:02:34 <Lemon> ho sure if you have pics !
07:02:47 <rust_collector> h&b?
07:03:04 <Ysjoelfir> that may take some time, I will cobble them together and take pics for you
07:03:09 <Ysjoelfir> Hartmann & Braun rusty
07:03:21 <rust_collector> ooh, sounds proper
07:03:38 <Lemon> thanks <3
07:03:51 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.alte-messgeraete.de/elektrotechnik/hartmann-braun-frankfurt-a-m/multavi-2/ they are proper. take a look.
07:04:04 <Ysjoelfir> I may keep one or two, but I decided not to collect them anymore
07:04:27 <Lemon> they look expensive and well made
07:04:46 <Ysjoelfir> they were very expensive in ~1940
07:04:47 <rust_collector> in ein formschönes Gehäuse ....ok
07:05:01 <Lemon> not anymore ? they must be collectors
07:05:07 <Ysjoelfir> they are
07:05:16 <rust_collector> he has all of them
07:05:21 <Ysjoelfir> I got them from my university when they sold stuff.
07:05:23 <Ysjoelfir> no, not all
07:05:26 <Ysjoelfir> but many
07:05:35 <rust_collector> ok, there is one who got away
07:05:36 <Lemon> they were still using them ?
07:05:39 <Ysjoelfir> but I need the space and money more than the meters
07:05:48 <Ysjoelfir> yes. they were still using them
07:06:00 <Ysjoelfir> I calibrated all, and they were still spot on
07:06:12 <Lemon> thats impressive
07:06:18 <Lemon> thats why I want old gear
07:06:23 <Ysjoelfir> I even managed to get the rare batteries (new)
07:06:26 <rust_collector> 10 times better tolerance that the other one you mentioned....
07:06:27 <Lemon> take a chinese multimeter and come 30 years later
07:07:40 <rust_collector> hmm, who knows? the cheap chinese multimeters ie does not have anything in them... they might actually last a long time.
07:08:03 <rust_collector> a blob, and 4 resistors
07:08:08 <Ysjoelfir> those 830 models? yeah, might. if they don't explode first.
07:08:09 <Lemon> well the problem is that many parts are hard to replace, as they use microcontrollers buried under epoxy etc
07:08:30 <Lemon> also some resistors might drift faster than old ones, idk
07:08:33 <Lemon> maybe not
07:08:43 <Lemon> enclosure will surely not last as long
07:08:44 <rust_collector> sure, but unless you try to measure how much current your tram uses in voltage mode...
07:08:54 <Lemon> yeah true
07:09:04 <Lemon> I like some chinese items actually
07:09:23 <Lemon> but when you can obtain a 40 y/o analog meter for 20 euros, hmmmm
07:09:30 <rust_collector> i dunno, I do sort of agree with you, but otoh, I have not seen a modern china meter in 30 years yet
07:09:39 <Lemon> yeah you got a point
07:11:14 <rust_collector> hmm, you also saw the pic of my speaker, on top of the scope. I am not sure if you noticed... it is a speaker taped to a cup, with a lm 386 module thing on the side
07:11:34 <rust_collector> no, I cut toe top off the pic
07:12:58 <Ysjoelfir> poor toe
07:13:14 <rust_collector> BAD TOE!!! BAADDD!!
07:13:15 <Lemon> ok the dude with the mx 430 accepts to send it, but he wants a cheque
07:13:19 <Lemon> ffs we are in 2020
07:13:34 <Lemon> how is a cheque more convenient than a paypal paiement, everybody can fake a cheque
07:14:04 <rust_collector> exactly... just add a zero, and move the comma
07:14:50 <Lemon> im really interested by this model, it comes with leads and the leather pouch which is a nice bonus
07:15:06 <Lemon> I like the other but I fear its some hard to find connectors on it
07:15:26 <Lemon> the micronta is nice too, and comes with leads
07:15:46 <rust_collector> I think they are just an older standard. 2.5mm or something?
07:16:06 <rust_collector> ok, I added the mono-cup to the pics
07:16:27 <Ysjoelfir> which pics?
07:16:38 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/drCkZjn
07:16:39 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/outillage_materiaux_2nd_oeuvre/929156966.htm/
07:16:51 <rust_collector> just my junk test stuff
07:17:01 <Ysjoelfir> nice speaker :D i like it xD
07:17:04 <rust_collector> proper youtube spec things
07:17:07 <Lemon> hooo I made a small speaker with exactly the same board lol
07:17:10 <Lemon> I bought 5 of those
07:17:23 <Lemon> but the enclosure is ashitty cardboard one with a 0.25 speaker lol
07:17:26 <Lemon> yours is dope
07:17:43 <rust_collector> it just fits so well on top of that cup, so...
07:17:56 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1400588427.htm/ what do you think of this one guys ?
07:18:03 <Lemon> I can buy it right away, theres the option
07:18:17 <rust_collector> I have to take it apart soon, because it was a "rush job" and I think it still has a bit of coffee in it
07:18:45 <Lemon> haha
07:19:18 <rust_collector> yes, nice, get it, because then you would have a set of the little plug leads, lol
07:20:47 <rust_collector> https://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/1742504388.htm/ not sure if you have linked this or not, but i kind of like it
07:21:14 <Lemon> yeah I saw it but he dont want to ship it
07:23:59 <rust_collector> hmm, nice, everything outside is nice and white now
07:24:08 <Lemon> pfff the dude with the mx 430 only wants a cheque
07:24:20 <rust_collector> it has to be close to christmas
07:28:30 <Lemon> I like the range doubler on the micronta
07:28:46 <Lemon> accuracy is better than the 477
07:28:53 <rust_collector> you should get that one
07:28:57 <Lemon> 3% is correct
07:28:59 <Lemon> yeah
07:29:06 <rust_collector> ok, do it!
07:29:13 <Lemon> looks arent everything sadly
07:29:18 <Lemon> I want something usable
07:29:19 <rust_collector> almost
07:29:29 <rust_collector> nah, you won't use that thing
07:29:36 <Lemon> the 477 might have unobtamium leads, 10% accuracy isnt that great
07:29:42 <Lemon> ho im sure I will in fact
07:29:49 <rust_collector> it has the same leads as the micronts
07:29:58 <rust_collector> (I think)
07:30:02 <Lemon> yeah but the micronta comes with them :>
07:30:10 <rust_collector> yes, so get the micronta
07:30:12 <Lemon> for the 477 theres nothing
07:30:16 <Lemon> yeah seems more reasonnable
07:30:47 <Lemon> it needs a 9v + AA battery which is nice
07:30:47 <rust_collector> I wonder... märklin toy trains used connectors that maybe is of that size
07:32:15 <Lemon> it seems in pretty good condition
07:32:56 <Lemon> 50k ohms per Vdc is alright
07:33:16 <Lemon> and I like the mirror, for better viewing angle
07:33:20 <Lemon> yeah Im gonna get it
07:33:28 <Lemon> 38 euros with shipping watcha think ?
07:33:29 <Lemon> good deal ?
07:33:41 <rust_collector> sure, whatever, just get something
07:33:49 <Lemon> :>
07:34:18 <rust_collector> I dunno, but I have heard the name, and I like the way it looks
07:34:35 <Lemon> I thinks its from radioshack/tandy
07:35:17 <rust_collector> yeah, that sounds correct
07:35:51 <Lemon> im going for a cigarrette
07:36:00 <Lemon> the cig of good decision
07:36:04 <rust_collector> oh noez!
07:36:23 <rust_collector> so you are buying the radiohut one, and the 477?
07:36:28 <rust_collector> for the leads
07:39:21 <rust_collector> actually, 38 euros is too much, but I guess that is what it is now
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07:48:56 <rust_collector> arrrgh, germany is full of houses
07:58:47 <Lemon> well well
07:59:19 <Lemon> I think Im getting the micronta one
07:59:33 <Lemon> the 477 is beautiful but not a good idea :>
07:59:50 <Lemon> 38 euros is decent as its in nice shape, with leads
08:00:01 <Lemon> I saw a few on the net for 30 but not in good shape, without shipping
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08:00:35 <Ysjoelfir> so. I just decided to take the photos now
08:00:37 <rust_collector> if you look hard enough, someone will probably be asking 150 for it
08:00:45 <Lemon> ho for sure
08:03:46 <Lemon> I know me, I'll probably end up buying another one so well
08:04:22 <Ysjoelfir> you could buy... 9 or so from me
08:04:59 <rust_collector> only 99.99, and we throw in this box of old cookbooks, and some spoons
08:05:17 <Lemon> for 20 euros a piece ? Ysjoelfir :>
08:05:47 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... depends.
08:05:50 <Ysjoelfir> let me first show you
08:05:58 <rust_collector> do you germans really bring your own kitchen when you move?
08:06:05 <Ysjoelfir> yes, usually
08:06:37 <rust_collector> what is the din standard kitchen module size?
08:06:44 <Ysjoelfir> (as a teaser for lemon: the Multimeter, Decade Box and Function Gen cabinet) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DYI8fNkLvIXHgmQ1JOCOJqYXcyS_dl0H/view?usp=sharing
08:07:04 <Lemon> hoooooo
08:07:08 <Ysjoelfir> you can get them in either 40, 60, 80 or 120 cm width
08:07:16 <Ysjoelfir> depth is always 60 IIRC
08:08:00 <Ysjoelfir> The (mostly) H&B Analog something-meters https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DOmA6fqPvl7cipbQF40LnOXkg0vqS0sX/view?usp=sharing
08:08:23 <Ysjoelfir> Some I want to keep, like the Multavi 2 with the original manual
08:08:35 <Ysjoelfir> and my foot, of course
08:09:24 <Lemon> they looks really great !
08:09:32 <rust_collector> I like those next to that foot
08:09:34 <Lemon> but im sure those are out of my budget, and more for collection than a real usage
08:09:59 <rust_collector> they will probably work well enough
08:10:14 <rust_collector> you can use things you collect
08:10:23 <Lemon> ho for sure yes
08:10:41 <Ysjoelfir> they are built like a brick and still very accurate. the left of the foot are Multavi HO ("High Ohm") and Multavi 5. Then comes the Multavi 2 with the manual leaflet under it and after that an Elavi 1
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08:11:32 <Lemon> they surely looks dope
08:11:33 <rust_collector> what are the ones to the uh, bottom left
08:11:40 <Ysjoelfir> I just remembered... I actually made a video of the multavi 2
08:12:07 <rust_collector> wattavi. ok
08:12:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes
08:12:16 <Ysjoelfir> they are wattavis
08:12:42 <Ysjoelfir> strangely they are exceptionally loved in korea
08:12:47 <Ysjoelfir> I sold five of those already
08:12:57 <Ysjoelfir> all of them went to either south or north korea oO
08:12:58 <Lemon> how much do they sell for ?
08:13:27 <Ysjoelfir> between 20 and 60€
08:13:31 <rust_collector> what does it cost to ship that to korea?
08:13:34 <Lemon> no more ? wow
08:13:34 <ThunderSqueak> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329483988500611086/672549269114322945/image0.jpg
08:13:37 <Ysjoelfir> 90€
08:14:15 <rust_collector> they are probably used to build nukes now
08:14:27 <Ysjoelfir> lol, nice one squeaky
08:14:33 <ThunderSqueak> ^^
08:14:34 <Ysjoelfir> I guess so.
08:14:35 <rust_collector> or at least a flying meatball cooker
08:16:58 <rust_collector> Lemon, I think this thing would suit your needs better: https://www.alte-messgeraete.de/elektrotechnik/hartmann-braun-frankfurt-a-m/elaviscript-1-netzbetrieb/
08:17:28 <Lemon> wow thats a nice piece :>
08:17:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Chris Gammell: Well it sure as hell isn't me ...but I wish it was https://t.co/h8zz9AO9y0 https://t.co/CyzkTkeyQx
08:24:26 <Lemon> thats it im buying the micronta, I really like it
08:24:58 <Lemon> ive read a few peeps on forums about it, saying it was pretty cheap back in the days but so well featured that it was more useful than some simpson models !
08:25:01 <Lemon> thats funny honestly
08:25:20 <Ysjoelfir> thats a nice thing rusty. never heard of that :D
08:25:23 <Lemon> this one is in really nice condition
08:26:28 <Lemon> annnnd done
08:26:38 <Lemon> I hope it wont start a collection ffs
08:26:50 <rust_collector> oh, but it will
08:27:25 <rust_collector> unless you already have one, becaus ethen that would have started it
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08:36:02 <Ysjoelfir> I'm going to bed. maybe I look for my teardown videos of the multavi meters tomorrow, if you are interested^^
08:36:04 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 all
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08:36:41 <rust_collector> I think it is weird that they move their kitchens
08:36:55 <Lemon> is that a sort of meme ? :>
08:37:02 <rust_collector> no
08:37:11 <rust_collector> well
08:37:24 <rust_collector> but he said they do, so I guess it is just a thing they do
08:37:53 <Lemon> well why not after all
08:38:05 <rust_collector> I can not say I have heard of people in any other place doing that
08:39:29 <rust_collector> hmm, because most houses have a kitchen built to fit the house, I guess. But otoh, they probably have a standard size, so they can fit 13 kitchen modules in series a kitchens, and 15 modules in series 3b
08:39:55 <Lemon> I cant visualize it in my head honestly
08:40:13 <Lemon> we use custom stuff in my house, mostly made with a swiss army knife
08:40:20 <Lemon> and some modified furniture
08:41:42 <Lemon> I need to find a copy of the art of electronics
08:51:19 <rust_collector> I have to stop watching a video about elevators...
08:51:30 <rust_collector> maybe it is time for my nap again
08:52:00 <Lemon> yeah im going to sleep too
08:52:53 <rust_collector> good night.
08:53:09 <Lemon> you too bud, see you tommorow for new adventures !
08:53:29 <rust_collector> hmm what are you buying tomorrow?
08:53:36 <Lemon> dont tempt me !
08:53:47 <Lemon> haha no I dont miss a lot of things now, maybe a couple cables and thats it
08:53:51 <Lemon> I need to stop spending
08:54:13 <rust_collector> yep. you will figure out what you need when you need it
08:54:23 <rust_collector> have fun in bed
08:54:25 <Lemon> yeah, probably consommable, like components etc
08:54:29 <rust_collector> if you sleep in a bed
08:54:31 <Lemon> sure thing ! see you :>
08:54:35 <Lemon> I do yes
08:57:45 <MrMobodies> I have discovered an issue
08:58:27 <MrMobodies> On one release of Pfsense I think it could have been 2.3, when I installed Squid, and turn it off, it broke the DNS server
08:58:46 <MrMobodies> I thought TalkTalk dns failed but it is not that
08:59:06 <MrMobodies> As soon I uninstalled Squid, the package manager stopped working
08:59:22 <MrMobodies> and then I remembered that happening before
08:59:56 <MrMobodies> and even when I restore default settings
09:00:35 <MrMobodies> It believe squid changes something with the DNS and does not change it back when it is switched off or uninstalled.
09:00:46 <MrMobodies> I'll find out later when I reinstall the whole thing
09:01:09 <MrMobodies> Oh this is the Pfsense 2.5 development build
09:02:05 <MrMobodies> I installed NTOP and that seems to have disappeared in packages after I uninstalled Squid.
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09:57:10 <DHess_US> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329483988500611086/672549269114322945/image0.jpg
10:32:03 <MrMobodies> I like that, poetry with numbers.
10:32:44 <MrMobodies> score, four, seven eleven, not a bit more.
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10:47:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: 5000 YEAR Diamond Battery: BUSTED!! https://t.co/pIlHNHnHWM
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12:02:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Tube Time: whoa, 110GHz, 256 gigasamples per second. good thing they have "lower cost" buying options. https://t.co/NyxIk4qHTc
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12:25:57 <MrMobodies> Just reinstalled from scratch and the DNS Resolver works without a problem
12:26:58 <MrMobodies> also I disabled the HPET timer, usb ports and an onboard IDE controller that wasn't in use. I think did disable them at first and certain slots wouldn't work but this time no problems
12:27:42 <MrMobodies> ti0 no longer shared with hpet and the cpu usage is back to normal
12:27:43 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/kmYgtQw.jpg
12:28:16 <MrMobodies> before it was going to 30% I believe it shared with that timer thing
12:29:18 <MrMobodies> and it was only doing that with 100mbps throughput which is too big through that tiny amount of throughput
12:30:43 <MrMobodies> ti+(ti2)? is shared with em8 but that doesn't seem a problem yet
12:55:07 <MrMobodies> I see ThunderF00t has released another video on diamond batteries
12:55:13 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFlV0OEK5E
13:26:10 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/Aj63zZ1.png
13:28:11 <steve30> Should show that to Halcyon
13:28:38 <MrMobodies> there is cat at my local pub
13:28:45 <MrMobodies> you don't pet it pets you
13:28:57 <MrMobodies> and it likes the smell of wallets
13:37:54 <T3sl4> steve30: that's what i was thinking
13:38:10 <T3sl4> MrMobodies: so it's well trained :D
13:50:12 <MrMobodies> It was sitting on a high chair and it wouldn't allow me to take my wallet for a while
13:50:30 <MrMobodies> I was told not to pet as it could get angry but it pets you instead
13:52:37 <MrMobodies> I am just quarter way in the ThunderF00t "NUCLEAR Diamond Battery: BUSTED!!" video and the music that University put in there is so loud all I can hear is just mumbling.
14:09:51 <MrMobodies> Anyone know anything about a Baseline Network Card?
14:11:01 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264258675758
14:11:12 <MrMobodies> I have never heard of these before
16:18:02 <DogWomble_> I've never seen them before either, only thing that comes to mind is i don't think it's standard ethernet, the fact that it's got two ports on the back makes me possibly think it's from a token ring network?
16:21:28 <DogWomble_> https://web.archive.org/web/20190613173620/http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohlandl/NIC/PC_Network.html
16:21:32 <DogWomble_> that may or may not help
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17:43:13 <Ysjoelfir> moin
17:45:43 <steve30> hi
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20:04:38 <Halcyon> Evening all
20:06:34 <steve30> hi Halcyon
20:06:51 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon
20:06:59 <steve30> Halcyon, as T3sl4 said earlier: https://i.imgur.com/Aj63zZ1.png
20:07:07 <Ysjoelfir> xD
20:07:38 <steve30> anyway, i need to go out for some groceries
20:07:39 <steve30> back later
20:07:45 <Halcyon> Hah
20:07:47 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
20:15:09 <Ysjoelfir> Moah. I am soooo pissed ._.
20:16:39 <Ysjoelfir> take a look at those resistors. https://www.digikey.de/products/en?keywords=HSC100R22J
20:16:52 <Ysjoelfir> and please tell me the tempco
20:27:50 <Halcyon> *shrug*
20:28:47 <Ysjoelfir> the datasheet tells me: +-50ppm/°C
20:29:32 <Ysjoelfir> I have the exact same resistor here beside me. Been looking for a strange phenomenon where the resistance climbs from 0.22R up to 0.25R when being heated.
20:30:15 <Ysjoelfir> after many measurements I am pretty sure, that the resistors don't have a tempco of 50ppm/k but more like +1600ppm/K
20:30:39 <Ysjoelfir> compared them to another resistor from an other manufacturer: no problems whatsoever. stable as a rock
20:30:49 <T3sl4> "Specification" page 2, 50ppm under 100R, 30ppm over 100R
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20:31:00 <Ysjoelfir> correct.
20:31:10 <Lemon> hello frens
20:31:11 <Ysjoelfir> But as I wrote... not correct in the real world
20:31:13 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon
20:31:15 <Ysjoelfir> hi Orange
20:31:32 * T3sl4 gifts Lemon a sugar packet
20:31:45 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, are you measuring by self heating, or ambient?
20:32:01 <T3sl4> 2 or 4 lead?
20:32:26 <Ysjoelfir> I measured by self heating and by heating using a hot air gun. 4 wire measurement.
20:32:49 <Ysjoelfir> and as i said, another resistor from an other manufacturer is completely fine being measured the exact same way
20:35:17 <T3sl4> weird
20:35:30 <T3sl4> i guess you should ask Lemon, because it sounds like you got one ;)
20:36:08 <T3sl4> failing that, an FAE, if you really must know. but it sounds like you already have a part that will work, which is nice
20:40:39 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but the bad thing is... those resistors that behave bad were used for around 20 years in the product. I just discovered that while temp testing my redesign of said product
20:43:50 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, there weren't any complaints from customers, but it is against our factory policy to sell products that are erroneous. We are thinking about recalling all of those to replace said resistors
20:53:39 <T3sl4> hah
20:54:34 <T3sl4> can't be too bad if it was a spec in the product but that spec was never tested, by you or the customers
20:55:10 <Lemon> call it a feature !
20:58:14 <Halcyon> Right, dishwasher is packed, chicken is marinating, wine glass is topped up
20:58:14 <Halcyon> :D
21:00:21 <Ysjoelfir> Well, back then other resistors were used, but the manufacturer disappeared sometime and I couldn't find any revalidating reports when switching to the newer ones
21:00:44 <Ysjoelfir> what do you have today, Halcyon? marinated chicken sounds great again
21:07:54 <Halcyon> I am marinating chicken in a jerked BBQ sauce, which I'll cook off later to make BBQ chicken pizzas
21:08:02 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds great
21:08:30 <Halcyon> I also bought some semi dried tomato, red onion, hot salami and cabanossi to go with it.
21:08:40 <Halcyon> Oh and mushrooms
21:08:45 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds even better
21:09:10 <Halcyon> Just got to wait for the chicken to absorb some more flavour and the pizza dough to rise
21:10:14 <Halcyon> For the base, I generally follow this recipe, but I add dried herbs and chilli flakes into the dry mix: https://www.maggiebeer.com.au/recipes/basic-pizza-dough
21:10:29 <Ysjoelfir> do you put anything special into your dough? I usually put some garlic powder and fenugreek into it. gives a great taste.
21:10:42 <Halcyon> Heh great minds think alike
21:11:01 <Ysjoelfir> :P
21:11:08 <Halcyon> Usually for the herbs, anything I have on-hand really. Generally dried parsley and oregano
21:11:33 <Ysjoelfir> I discovered some "old-ish" herbs that I like very much
21:11:54 <Halcyon> Fenugreek is an interesting one, I'll have to try that
21:12:24 <Ysjoelfir> fenugreek (ground, not seeds, they taste awfull like soap...) and lovage are great herbs
21:12:44 <Ysjoelfir> also savory is a nice one
21:12:49 <Halcyon> I was about to say, do you grind your fenugreek?
21:13:00 <Halcyon> To me it smells very, almost curry
21:13:18 <Halcyon> I buy most of my spices whole and just grind what I need
21:13:39 <Ysjoelfir> I bought it pre-ground. but recently we got ourselves one of those fancy kitchen machines, so self grinding will become a thing now
21:13:59 <Halcyon> Yeh I have a spice grinder, but mortar and pestle also do a good job for small quanties
21:14:10 <Halcyon> I just find pre-ground stuff looses too much flavour too quickly
21:14:30 <Ysjoelfir> indeed. we did a false decision on the mortar and pestle, though. we got one made from wood, because it was beautiful...
21:14:48 <Ysjoelfir> buuuuut... you can immagine that grinding stuff like fenugreek or msutard seeds in that is rather inefficient
21:14:49 <Halcyon> Not quite heavy/hard enough
21:14:50 <Halcyon> :P
21:15:12 <Ysjoelfir> jep
21:18:29 <Halcyon> I might try a little ground fenugreek on top of the base sauce
21:18:37 <Halcyon> I think I might enjoy it
21:25:00 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure you will
21:25:20 <Ysjoelfir> I think it has a great flavor
21:26:52 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Do you follow Ashens on Youtube at all?
21:27:28 <Ysjoelfir> not realy following him, but I like to watch his videos from time to time :)
21:27:36 <Halcyon> I enjoy his "food" videos
21:27:44 <Halcyon> Same as Mike Jeavons
21:27:46 <Ysjoelfir> those with the special intro?^^
21:27:50 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpIVAzPdQMo&list=PLuXVJtG6oNtG8ViYjazh_oLw8Km8yWYDY
21:28:10 <Ysjoelfir> ah yes :D
21:28:26 <coppice_> fenugreek - the asian spice that's pretending to be european :)
21:28:31 <Ysjoelfir> I love those, too. But also those where his avatar pukes in the intro
21:28:37 <Halcyon> Yep
21:28:41 <Halcyon> The out of date food :)
21:28:58 <Halcyon> coppice_: Hah
21:29:07 <Halcyon> It stinks of Asian (Indian) though?
21:29:31 <coppice_> its in a lot of Chinese cuisine too
21:29:58 <Halcyon> I'm going to try it on Italian :)
21:30:11 <Ysjoelfir> I use it on.... many many things.. :D
21:30:40 <Ysjoelfir> its great eg. in chili
21:30:43 <Halcyon> I would imagine it would go alright in Bolognese sauce (in a small amount)
21:30:56 <Ysjoelfir> it does
21:31:47 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVza_AnhQ3E
21:31:54 <Halcyon> One of my Favourites
21:35:36 <coppice_> name any food and someone somewhere will have canned it
21:35:52 <Halcyon> Canning is both fantastic and horrible
21:36:00 <Halcyon> Some stuff just doesn't belong in a can
21:36:22 <Ysjoelfir> oh I liked the whole chicken in a can video.
21:37:00 <Ysjoelfir> I agree with the first comment. "Serving suggestion: Don't"
21:37:01 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: If you like Ashens, you might also like Atomic Shrimp
21:37:06 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/user/AtomicShrimp
21:37:18 <Halcyon> He does various random videos including "Weird stuff in a can"
21:37:23 <Ysjoelfir> I will take a look after I watched the chicken again :)
21:37:34 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk5KvJPikK010VM4uJumeNG3_QnvYi0e4
21:37:38 <Halcyon> That's the playlist
21:38:48 <coppice_> WTF is the mess in that can?
21:38:58 <Halcyon> *shrug*
21:39:04 <Halcyon> Something radioactive?
21:39:19 <coppice_> when did chicken become red meat?
21:39:43 <Halcyon> coppice_: You can fully cook chicken with some pink left
21:40:01 <Halcyon> Colour is not always an indicator of "done-ness"
21:40:20 <Halcyon> I prefer my chicken *just* pink, but the liquids run clear
21:40:22 <coppice_> yes, I know, but that fit the narrative, and these days that's enough to ignore it
21:40:57 <Halcyon> But yeh, not so sold on the chicken that Ashens has
21:41:01 <Halcyon> Even I wouldn't eat that
21:41:02 <coppice_> Is there a follow up video about his medical condition?
21:41:06 <Halcyon> Hahah
21:53:59 * steve30 returns
21:54:05 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
21:55:18 <steve30> In today's newspaper, there are complaints about a "massage parlour" which has opened up in the town centre.
21:55:45 <Halcyon> You should check it out. You're always needing a hip massage :P
21:56:04 <coppice_> steve30: hey, no shiatsu
21:58:33 <coppice_> wifey is so naive that she and a friend went to a massage place in Shenzhen, came home and told me there were all these odd things about the place. As she told me I said "that was a brothel". She really hadn't figured it out for herself. :)
21:59:09 <Halcyon> Heh
21:59:15 <Halcyon> Aww people like that are cute
22:00:08 <coppice_> in many parts of asia massage is a big thing. There are many proper massage places in most towns
22:00:17 <coppice_> and she usually finds a proper one :)
22:00:57 <coppice_> I don't know why she can't stick to places she knows and trusts, but nooooo. she has to try something new
22:01:07 <Halcyon> Hahah
22:01:12 <Halcyon> I bet she won't anymore :P
22:03:49 <Ysjoelfir> xD nice one :D
22:03:57 <steve30> Apparently the manager of this "massage parlour" is adamant that it is a massage parlour.
22:04:27 <coppice_> steve30: you do realise there really are proper massage places in the UK, right?
22:04:27 <Halcyon> Well... masturbation involves manipulation and stimulating blood flow
22:04:33 <Halcyon> Soooo yehhhh technically ?
22:04:53 <coppice_> steve30: especially if they are in a chinatown, or other asian district
22:05:23 <coppice_> steve30: around here it was a chinese restaurant that turned out to be a brothel
22:05:37 <steve30> Yes, but I think this one is presenting itself as a "massage parlour", rather than a massage parlour.
22:05:50 <Lemon> just got my super knips and the psu :D
22:06:27 <Lemon> its in really good shape, only one thing is a heatsink fin thats bent, idk if it was during shipping or not but well thats not a big problem, I'll bend it back later
22:06:35 <Lemon> and its tinier than expected, not lighter tho
22:06:36 <Halcyon> Meh
22:06:39 <Halcyon> Sounds like a winner
22:06:40 <Halcyon> :)
22:06:46 <Lemon> yesssss
22:06:55 <steve30> https://www.jeffersonsparlour.co.uk/
22:07:11 <coppice_> steve30: its presenting itself as a brothel? Don't they usually present themselves as a reputable place, even if they aren't?
22:07:18 <Halcyon> Umm
22:07:28 <Halcyon> That totally looks like a sex on premises place
22:08:37 <steve30> eevblog time
22:08:37 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 22:08 Sydney time.
22:08:43 <Halcyon> Why is the gallery full of headless women ?
22:08:46 <Halcyon> :P
22:08:49 <coppice_> well, pink could be appealing to women, but it does say its in an escort directory :)
22:09:38 <Halcyon> "Within Jefferson's there is a discrete side door"
22:09:39 <Halcyon> Heh
22:09:49 <Halcyon> I wonder why
22:10:27 <steve30> The newspaper commented on the discreet door and the escort directory
22:10:28 <coppice_> a discrete side door? what kind of weird hookers are these?
22:10:38 <steve30> lol
22:10:57 <coppice_> those are some oversized massage tables
22:10:58 <Halcyon> Steve, they are lookig (sic) for new faces! You should apply :P
22:11:32 <steve30> We do have a gay sauna over in Sheffield. I've been assured its very good. Never been myself though.
22:11:39 <coppice_> of course they are looking for new faces. from the pictures they have a shortage of faces
22:13:43 <Halcyon> Even the domain was only registered in November
22:13:53 <Halcyon> Seems very sudden
22:14:18 <Halcyon> Anyway, time for dinner
22:14:20 <Halcyon> Back soon
22:14:23 <coppice_> a gay sauna sounds like it would plug a hole in the market
22:14:24 <steve30> well aparantly its only just opened
22:21:14 <Lemon> get ready for the bench picture peeps
22:21:58 <Lemon> not the best, but well
22:22:05 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/a/hLVxvU2
22:22:43 <Lemon> why is it so dark
22:22:51 <Lemon> theres literally a desk lamp pointing at it
22:24:23 <Lemon> those super knips are the best cutters I ever had the chance to use
22:24:26 <Lemon> what a relief
22:24:40 <Lemon> and the lab supply is gorgeous, controls are ultra precise
22:31:04 <Lemon> have I crashed or nobody is talking ?
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22:32:36 <Lemon> hmmm I think I crashed and talked alone for 10 minutes
22:35:37 <steve30> No one said anything.
22:35:41 <steve30> I was downstairs making food
22:37:28 <Lemon> alright then I'm not totally mad
22:37:44 <Lemon> it happenned multiple times yesterday, idk why but I crash and I can't see it
22:37:50 <Lemon> I just realize it after a while
22:44:52 <K> hello
22:44:52 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
22:50:23 <Lemon> hey
22:50:33 <AndrevS> hi
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23:18:00 <Halcyon> Well, that pizza was amazing
23:18:01 <Halcyon> Hey AndrevS
23:18:50 <Ysjoelfir> Looks nice Orange :)
23:19:17 <Halcyon> K, why do you always hit the EEVblog easter eggs?
23:19:20 <Halcyon> He seems to like you
23:19:22 <Halcyon> :P
23:21:54 <Lemon> :>
23:23:29 <Lemon> I should get the generator soon
23:23:42 <Halcyon> You bought a generator?
23:23:42 <Ysjoelfir> nice^^ where do you put it?
23:24:10 <Lemon> yeah a 2mhz one with am/fm modulation, for 30 euros with shipping and a cable !
23:24:16 <Halcyon> Ohhhh
23:24:21 <Halcyon> That sort of generator :P
23:24:28 <Halcyon> I thought you meant like a backup power one
23:24:50 <Ysjoelfir> that will be his next project, I'm sure ;)
23:25:07 <Lemon> ho no :> I sure want an ups for my workstation, but thats it :P
23:25:26 <Lemon> no the other thing I want, but sadly it will probably be a chinese one
23:25:29 <Lemon> is a lcr meter
23:25:30 <Halcyon> I have a 3kVa UPS for my rack
23:25:33 <Halcyon> That's about it
23:25:54 <Lemon> thats pretty nice ! Id be happy with 2kva or something for everything
23:25:57 <Halcyon> I do have spare UPSs but they need new batteries
23:26:18 <Halcyon> I purposely put a 20 Amp power socket in my server room when I built the house
23:26:34 <Halcyon> 10A @ 230V just doesn't cut it :P
23:27:50 <K> and a 2kva ups for tea kettle
23:28:04 <Halcyon> You don't have gas ?
23:29:49 <K> i was kidding
23:29:57 <Halcyon> :P
23:30:02 <K> but no, actually we dont
23:30:27 <Halcyon> Don't joke, when I worked for an ISP, we lost power one day. I literally used a UPS to boil a kettle
23:30:38 <Halcyon> After all, there was nothing else to do
23:33:05 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
23:33:09 <Halcyon> :)
23:34:05 * Ysjoelfir found a nice band.
23:34:31 <Halcyon> Oh?
23:34:34 <Ysjoelfir> Do you guys know Skáld?
23:34:44 <Halcyon> Anything like Rick Astley ?
23:34:54 <steve30> I just had curry :)
23:34:56 <Ysjoelfir> no^^
23:35:09 <Halcyon> Then no
23:35:18 <Halcyon> What kind of curry steve30 ?
23:35:29 <steve30> bhuna
23:35:35 <Halcyon> Also, Ysjoelfir: The pizza worked well with Fenugreek
23:35:41 <Halcyon> Could have done with a bit more actually
23:36:22 <Ysjoelfir> I usually put quite a lot of that stuff onto my food. I like the taste very much :)
23:36:31 <Halcyon> Yeh I like it
23:37:22 <Halcyon> Also steve30: Joe Lycett sort of annoys me
23:37:26 * steve30 is cold
23:37:38 * T3sl4 gives steve30 a duvet
23:38:00 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4
23:38:29 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9NIBZfVBW4&list=PLHpFb5QUIZpdVUU-FxIdqgF4N_xiaT213 try it :) I like it.
23:38:50 <Halcyon> I'll give it a go
23:39:15 <Ysjoelfir> i like that they actually know how to sing. like, with their voices. not with autotune.
23:39:31 <Ysjoelfir> Also I enjoy them using very basic, classic instruments
23:39:35 <Halcyon> Oh there is plenty of editing in that
23:39:49 <Halcyon> Very viking-like
23:39:57 <Halcyon> I actually don't mind it
23:40:08 <Ysjoelfir> sure it is. but as far as I read at least they don't use autotune to correct for bad singing skills :D
23:41:05 <T3sl4> evanescence if they were 15th century
23:41:54 <Halcyon> This impressive however: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmMrrQGtskI
23:42:19 <Halcyon> He is also cute
23:43:31 <Ysjoelfir> that is pretty acurate I would say, T3sl4
23:43:36 <Ysjoelfir> Ah, i know that one Halcyon :)
23:43:44 <T3sl4> Halcyon, reminds me i haven't seen Smooth McGroove in a while
23:43:48 <T3sl4> he does great work too
23:44:01 <Ysjoelfir> Just got this as an recommendation from youtunbe. Its.... interesting. Mongolian rock? :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE
23:45:27 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWOwRu_D3g&list=PLCsAM_ZK2oL7NSK_C_p7-WR9QBEImokhU&index=11
23:45:33 <Halcyon> This is an Aussie group
23:45:49 <Halcyon> Wait, wrong link
23:46:19 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLIJMCCDqzZ_R1EcCLzkT8w
23:46:41 <Halcyon> I do enjoy A Capella
23:50:20 <T3sl4> nice
23:56:46 <Ysjoelfir> yep, nice :)
23:57:06 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, I made a little chart for the resistors... if you are interested. https://snipboard.io/1IQ8fm.jpg
23:57:39 <T3sl4> over the course of similar temp profiles, i take it?
23:58:25 <Ysjoelfir> 16A Current, nominal value is 240mR, both resistors bolted besides each other on the same piece of metal
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