// #eevblog — 2020-01-16
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00:11:11 <rust_collector> hah, 61 people in a transit
00:22:00 <Ysjoelfir> Who is transitioning to where?
00:40:12 * hsn93 not me
00:45:58 <rust_collector> heh, so they drop support for winders7 , and the day after, there is a "very important update" . seems a bit random
00:46:44 <rust_collector> mm, not random
00:47:09 <rust_collector> seems a bit "someother word"
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00:58:46 <hsn93> nsa thingy?
00:59:01 <rust_collector> who knows?
01:09:24 <Ysjoelfir> has anyone done any calculations what size via gives the most copper on a given plane?
01:09:53 <rust_collector> I bet someone has
01:14:34 <Ysjoelfir> let me correct myself: has anyone in this channel done any [...]? :D
01:21:42 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=darA3WOMKz0
01:32:13 <Ysjoelfir> I love that
01:32:14 <Ysjoelfir> I want it
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01:42:10 <rust_collector> I think a bigger window would be ok, but yes, that would be fun
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01:44:53 <rust_collector> I want one of those vans they started that project with. I have had a thing for those for years
01:46:32 <rust_collector> I like vans, and 4x4 things, and this is a 4x4 van, that is small enough to fit inside belgium
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01:53:55 <Ysjoelfir> I like them too. actually, I love everything that is bigger than a normal car and that is not one of those wannabe SUVs that don't even have a differential lock.
01:54:22 <Ysjoelfir> Once I owned a mercedes "Düsseldorfer" 408. Ex Firefighter Truck. That was a nice thing
01:55:27 <rust_collector> I had a 60x it was a big old box. very nice to live in, but very very slow. I miss that thing
01:55:56 <rust_collector> I don't actually know what engine it had. but it was a 60something
01:56:07 <Ysjoelfir> jep, they were slow... and loud. insanely loud.
01:56:17 <Ysjoelfir> diesel or gas?
01:56:27 <rust_collector> big diesel
01:56:53 <Ysjoelfir> then I would assume a 608 with the 80PS 3.6 (?) liter diesel
01:57:23 <rust_collector> the mercedes garage guy said "that engine should never have been in that thing" He also said " I don't know what it is
01:58:00 <rust_collector> but it did work, so...
01:58:46 <rust_collector> it would do exactly 95. up or down, or dropped out of a plane, 95
02:02:05 <rust_collector> If you look at the passenger side, it had the passenger seat, the cargo door, behind that was a 4 seat sofa, then a curtain, and a big bed in the rear. on the other side, bed in back, curtain, 3 seat sofa, small kitchen out of some caravan. it had a sink and fridge. then drivers seat.
02:02:20 <rust_collector> I could fit my moped in there, which was nice
02:03:12 <rust_collector> I used to live in that thing, all week, at work
02:03:33 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds pretty much like what I immagined mine would look like when I would ever have finished it
02:03:36 <Ysjoelfir> which I didn't
02:04:56 <rust_collector> yeah, I sold it because... I dunno why
02:07:01 <Ysjoelfir> I sold mine because I couldn't get any tires that the german TÜv would accept. the old size doesn't exist anymore and new ones don't fit on the 40x. except if you build a 60x rear axle into it.
02:07:26 <rust_collector> oh
02:09:35 <rust_collector> düsseldorfer... what other versions were there? hannover-er?
02:09:54 <rust_collector> for the smaller hanomag based one
02:12:24 <rust_collector> Oh, I also want one of the small boxy mercedes vans, I think they were spanish, but mercedes bought them. I never remember what they are called
02:12:47 <rust_collector> I think they used the 190 engine in them
02:13:23 <rust_collector> I only see them when they are on vacation up here, and not very often then either
02:14:08 <Ysjoelfir> They were called Düsseldorfer because they were built in the daimler benz factory in Düsseldorf. Actually their name was "T2" or T2-Old. The Hanomag based ones and the later Versions (called "T2-New and Vario) were built in Bremen.
02:14:48 <Ysjoelfir> That would be the MB100 I guess. the other small version was the "Bremer" (you can guess how it got its name), the 3xx models
02:15:34 <rust_collector> yes, mb100
02:16:34 <rust_collector> I am not sure I REALLY want one, but they are so weird I want one
02:17:53 <Ysjoelfir> I thought the same, but all I found were rusted beyond economical repair
02:19:05 <rust_collector> I do in general not like mercedes. but I guess they had some good or interesting things now and then
02:19:52 <rust_collector> but that one is close enough to a car, that I could use it as a car
02:21:27 <Ysjoelfir> I see we have a rather simmilar thinking about cars. except that you don't like volvo, IIRC
02:22:25 <rust_collector> I do not like volvo trucks. I do not mind old volvo cars. the 2000 and newer cars were pretty meh, imo
02:23:52 <Ysjoelfir> I don't have any grief against volvo trucks, but the other part I aggree. so indeed, simmilar thinking. :)
02:25:17 <coppice_> Volvo trucks have always been popular with the people who use their own money to buy them
02:27:03 <rust_collector> volvo trucks are probably ok if you own it, and can cut the seat base, so it does not hurt to sit in the damn thing
02:27:34 <coppice_> are you talking about Volvo US or non-US?
02:27:45 <rust_collector> non us
02:27:51 <MrMobodies> I found some anti biotics and the pressure seems to be dropping now.
02:28:03 <Ysjoelfir> We don't get the nice long nose trucks in europe :(
02:28:13 <coppice_> owner operators usually love the comfort of the non-US Volvo trucks
02:28:14 <Ysjoelfir> that is nice MrMobodies, hope you feel better soon
02:28:26 <MrMobodies> Volvo trucks
02:28:53 <rust_collector> you can buy those here, they have export models that are up to eu spec
02:29:17 <rust_collector> but it does not make much sense, most of the time
02:29:21 <coppice_> I have no idea how good or bad those long nose trucks work out, but they are definitely very different from the non-US trucks
02:29:32 <MrMobodies> are they the ones that have a place to sleep insode?
02:29:46 <rust_collector> you can order them with or without
02:32:32 <coppice_> There is so much fuss being made about diesel cars not meeting standards, but very little is said about the raids police have done in various places showing huge numbers of trucks and buses that have bypassed the DPF and other pollution controls
02:32:44 <Ampera> good morning
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02:33:27 <rust_collector> well, there is a thing that the trucks and buses that do have working emissions stuff are much much cleaner than a car
02:33:33 <rust_collector> hey Ampera
02:33:39 <Ampera> how are you doing
02:33:47 <coppice_> You can get the biggest tractors without sleeping quarters, because a lot of them aren't used on long runs
02:34:54 <rust_collector> and you can also get a normal "slightly extended" cab, with bunk beds, similar to what we get here in euroland
02:36:01 <rust_collector> beats having a piece of plywood across the seats, lol
02:37:26 <coppice_> the sleeping area in big trucks is surprisingly spacious and comfy
02:38:08 <Ysjoelfir> Hi ampera :) back home? I'm heading off from work soon...
02:38:15 <Ampera> Yeah I'm home
02:38:27 <Ampera> which means I now have my four monitors back, instead of a 14 inch tablet
02:38:51 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir likes to work all day.... because that is what they do where he is
02:39:24 <Ampera> on;y true if drink beer and eat the sosig is defined as work
02:39:33 <Ysjoelfir> naaah. I came to work late today. started at 9:22
02:39:54 <rust_collector> wow
02:40:15 <Ampera> though if you're +6 to me, that's 16:00, that's still a pretty light work day
02:40:40 <rust_collector> 16:40 now
02:40:43 <Ysjoelfir> its 16:40 right now and I guess I will go at 17:00.
02:40:59 <Ysjoelfir> our work time is variable and right now I haven't that much to do
02:41:02 <Ampera> 9 to 5? well that's about right I suppose.
02:41:07 <Ampera> Where do you work
02:41:32 <Ysjoelfir> electronics engineer at a manufacturer for precision power analyzers
02:42:12 <coppice_> That's a niche market. you've narrowed your place of work considerably
02:42:27 <Ysjoelfir> that was somewhat intentional
02:42:34 <Ampera> it's a job someone has to do, why not him
02:42:44 <Ampera> if he likes it, if he gets the bread on the table, it's fine.
02:42:44 <K> from what i've read, this week he's been deported to garage or something to work on a very loud vacuum cleaner
02:42:47 <hsn93> hi guys, and bye
02:42:52 <Ampera> bye
02:43:01 <Ampera> that was a quick visit
02:43:10 <hsn93> :D i was busy today
02:43:15 <hsn93> leaving office
02:43:21 <coppice_> Its a perfectly good job, but the difference between "I work in precision power analysers" and "I work for X" is very small
02:43:32 <Ampera> I have a day full of, oh dear it's all cleaning
02:43:35 <Ysjoelfir> well, basically what K said. I'm analyzing a AC source right now that is.. rather damn loud.
02:43:37 <Ampera> and maybe some skateboarding
02:45:35 <rust_collector> electric skateboard looks fun
02:45:54 <rust_collector> like a bike, but flat and small
02:45:55 <Ampera> I'll worry about that when I can figure out how to ride a real one
02:45:59 <coppice_> IEC61000-4-30 to the rescue.......
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02:48:22 <rust_collector> does it clean for you, or skateboard?
02:49:25 * Ysjoelfir cleans the Spark_Gap
02:49:34 <rust_collector> bzzzzt
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02:54:18 * Spark_Gap sparks happily
02:54:34 <Ysjoelfir> :)
02:56:05 <rust_collector> Maybe good night
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03:03:16 <Ysjoelfir> Now?
03:03:52 <rust_collector> maybe
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03:09:36 * Spark_Gap is listening AC/DC - High voltage rock and roll
03:11:31 <rust_collector> why are you listening to that OOOOld music
03:11:45 <rust_collector> you can buy new music
03:12:41 <Ampera> they don't make music anymore
03:12:57 <Ampera> all they make is brand politics and profane poems set to stock backings.
03:13:33 <rust_collector> the new music is much better, because they have autotune now, not just weird voice like mr scott
03:14:40 <Ampera> that's not better, that means it's not real talent anymore, and nobody has to care about their music.
03:15:05 <rust_collector> same with that old band "rush" with the weird squeaky voice. If they had autotune, they could sound pretty ok
03:15:06 <Ampera> Music I listen to from the 50's to 80's is all beautiful, but from people who really put their souls into music.
03:15:57 <rust_collector> they just need to adjust his voice, and find a decent drummer
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03:48:04 <Spark_Gap> Because I cannot find high voltage music anymore
03:49:24 <Spark_Gap> most modern music is TTL or CMOS voltage levels
03:51:30 <Ysjoelfir> :D
03:51:31 <Spark_Gap> old music was analog (a lot of words), modern music is mostly binary (max two words repeating over and over)
03:51:45 <Ysjoelfir> true
03:53:26 <Spark_Gap> and two notes mostly
03:53:57 <K> do-be-do-be-do-be-dooo
03:54:03 <Spark_Gap> you are lucky if you find modern song and it contains three notes
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04:26:19 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obdv1jghXAE
04:26:23 <Ampera> Hocus Pocus by Focus
04:52:05 <coppice_> Ah, the famous lute player, Jan Akkerman
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14:25:12 <rust_collector> so, this is tomorrow....
14:31:30 <rust_collector> and focus. I guess it is a good day
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17:54:08 * steve30 needs more coffee
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18:29:04 <Guest|53976> HI
18:29:12 <steve30> hi
18:29:20 <Guest|53976> I have a question
18:30:01 <Guest|53976> How can I make an adaptor
18:30:29 <Guest|53976> coulde you tell me
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18:33:27 <Alisan> hi
18:35:38 <Alisan> Do you know How I make an adaptor can
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18:37:32 <Ampera> I could do with something in a can right about now
18:37:36 <Ampera> some smoked herring would be delicious
18:37:40 <Ampera> sadly I don't have any
18:38:41 <steve30> I wonder what kind of adaptor
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