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16:52 <steve30> hi
21:11 <rust_collector> hmm, kids desktop shut down, and says it is overheating. This should be a nice project for the day
43:48 <Ampera> This is excellent, OpenBSD even has drivers for my 802.11 card in my iBook
48:01 Join: hsn993 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
48:56 <steve30> cool
04:33 <Ysjoelfir> Good morning all
04:41 <rust_collector> hoi
12:46 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, I got some caps from the company yesterday. Let's see if I can go on with the restauration of the WW2 Radio tomorrow or this night :)
13:10 <rust_collector> neat, have fun with that
14:32 <Ysjoelfir> let's see if I find the time
14:41 <rust_collector> I still have to go look at kids desktop. internet says that the overheating problem he has probably is "fake", and as he has cool air coming out of the cooler, I guess that makes sense. or the cooler does not have good contact with the cpu
14:44 <Ysjoelfir> the volvo needs some work, too. so... we'll see
15:09 <rust_collector> well, the toyota needs a lot of work, but it still gets me to work, lol
15:09 <Ysjoelfir> I would assume the later. never heard of fake overheating?
15:50 <rust_collector> something about the sensor reading like it was a different kind of cpu, which measures temp in a different way.
16:17 <Ysjoelfir> well, that sounds reasonable
16:24 Join: Nothing\ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
16:25 <Nothing\> woohoo
16:35 <rust_collector> I wonder, if I can touch the back of the board, and it is cool, I guess the cpu is not properly overheating?
16:35 <Ysjoelfir> hi nothing
16:39 <Nothing\> i just did my first RLC AC circuit analysis
16:46 <Nothing\> hey Ysjoelfir haven't seen you here before
16:55 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds... correct?
16:59 <rust_collector> he is one of you nerds
17:08 <Ysjoelfir> :O me? nerd? nooo, never :D
17:10 <Nothing\> how you liking our humble community thus far?
17:25 <Ysjoelfir> very nuchg
17:26 <Ysjoelfir> *much
17:30 <Nothing\> 0super
17:32 <rust_collector> he said he hates all of us, in german
17:39 <Nothing\> i'm the resident ADD guy
17:49 <Ysjoelfir> Da hast du natürlich vollkommen recht, Rusty. :)
17:57 <rust_collector> I know
18:03 <Ysjoelfir> Aber eigentlich mag ich euch alle sehr doll ;-)
18:28 <Nothing\> my mom speaks german so she's trying to decypher this
18:39 <Ysjoelfir> ;-)
18:41 <rust_collector> also, Nothing has a thing for throwing his nuts around, and he is annoyed when you talk about music
18:56 <Nothing\> rust_collector: only when the squirrels are around
18:59 <rust_collector> hi mom
19:01 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, did you hear about that song? it goes like dab da dada dab da
19:21 <Nothing\> rust_collector: she says hi back to you
19:37 <Nothing\> she was born in germany so she can understand it
19:38 <rust_collector> the one who is almost as annoying as the eeeeeeee macarena
19:48 <Ysjoelfir> correct
20:03 <Nothing\> what about mambo number 5
20:09 <Nothing\> that one was super addictive
20:20 <Nothing\> or livin la vita loca
20:53 <rust_collector> I never had a problem with that one
21:39 <rust_collector> it was just a noise the radio made that year
22:03 Quit: hsn993 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
22:05 <Ysjoelfir> and, did she translate it to you? :)
22:57 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTjJ2_P5P4U
23:01 <rust_collector> that one?
23:31 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir: aye, she did
24:05 <Ysjoelfir> nice. by the way, my fingers are getting cleaned by the cat right now... I'm not sure if I should feel more clean or more dirty right now...
24:17 <Nothing\> lol, cat licking your fingres?
24:26 <Nothing\> what do you have food on tem or something?
24:28 <rust_collector> STEVE!!!
24:40 <Nothing\> when i was little my cat used to lick my hair to groom me lol
24:43 <rust_collector> guy is trying to type
26:08 <Ysjoelfir> No, not food. I was holding his tail. He always starts cleaning it (and your fingers) if you hold the tip of his tail in front of his nose.
26:38 <Nothing\> lol one of my cats used to do that
26:54 <Nothing\> i used to try to tickle their nose with their tail by sticking the hairs up their nostril lol
28:15 <Ysjoelfir> exactly :)
28:21 <Nothing\> or i'd take a single hair and put it up their nostril, being careful to hold onto to it so it doesn't get stuck and gently tickle the inside of their nose with it
28:39 <Ysjoelfir> I should try that^^
29:08 <rust_collector> I think he meant the cats nostril....
30:10 <Ysjoelfir> Oh.
30:20 * Ysjoelfir pulls the hair out of rust_collectors nose
30:25 <Nothing\> yup, yd. cat's nostril
30:34 <rust_collector> pfft
30:40 <Nothing\> lol or a hilarious thing to do to a cat is to put a sock over their head
30:59 <rust_collector> shrink wrap the whole thing
31:12 <Nothing\> -they'll continuously walk backwards in a vain attempt at escape
31:24 <Nothing\> ah crap, i forget to take my chantix this morning
32:04 <Nothing\> man i love this stuf, hands down best stop smoking aid EVER
32:17 <rust_collector> good for you
32:20 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer not starting to smoke at all :D
32:25 <rust_collector> bah
32:48 <Nothing\> smoking is such a terribly addictive habit
33:00 <Nothing\> i've had problems with al manner of drugs, even painkillers
33:32 <rust_collector> I found it was just addictive until you decided to quit
34:18 <rust_collector> it is just that most of the time, your brain has not decided to quit, so it is hard
34:48 <Nothing\> for me, it was more addictive even than dilaudid, which is basically like prescription heroin
35:23 <rust_collector> Now... I have different issues, so we will see. i have not said I quit. it just has been a while since I did smoke
36:29 <rust_collector> hmm, it was a friday, so it must have been the 12th of december
36:41 <Nothing\> or at least the closest you can get to heroin with a p.r bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
36:59 <Nothing\> oop-, sorry
37:26 <rust_collector> my mom speaks gibberish, she is translating that for me
38:19 <Nothing\> fell asleep on my keyboard tanbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
38:25 <Nothing\> aoesitnhoeasindaoeisnaedia bah!
38:27 <Nothing\> sorry bout that
38:35 <Nothing\> i've gotta eat osmething to wake myself up
39:41 <Nothing\> bah, i've gotta eat
39:55 <Nothing\> maybe i'll make a chicken vindaloo or have one of these egg mcmuffins i got at mcdonald's
40:11 <rust_collector> no, make the portugese dish
40:12 <Nothing\> oh that erminds me rust_collector
40:20 <Nothing\> you ever watch harald baldr's channel?
40:28 <rust_collector> yea, a bit
41:59 <Nothing\> i've really taken a liknig to it in thmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
42:05 <Nothing\> yeah i thought it was pretty good
42:33 <rust_collector> I guess it lets you see places
44:12 <rust_collector> Maybe you will get a "we snuck into chinas virus city" video one of the days
45:42 <Nothing\> =yeah i find it helps me escape from my impending incarceration
45:59 <Nothing\> which btw, i'm being sentenced on the 3rd, so that's when i'm going to go to prison
46:01 <Nothing\> not jail, prison
46:04 <Nothing\> :/
46:52 <Ampera> rip
46:52 <rust_collector> well. try to do something useful while you are there, I guess
47:12 <Ampera> do you know for how long?
47:34 <Nothing\> not for certain, no
47:40 <Nothing\> guessing 3-6 months
47:51 <Nothing\> minuse 1/3 for good behaviour
48:11 <Ampera> are going for part time?
48:49 <rust_collector> can you get a bonus 1/3 for bad behaviour? Maybe you could drag it out enough to finish the bulgarian language classes?
48:58 <Ampera> lol
49:17 <Nothing\> i'm gonna try to get weekends to serve it, but i see no reason why they would do that since i don't work or anything
50:11 <Ampera> Are you allowed to talk about what happened?
50:13 <rust_collector> on the other side, at least you will be done with it before you are too old to get a job
50:51 <Nothing\> Ampera: yeah now i am
51:00 <Nothing\> basically i was making a pass at my brother's ex
51:11 <Nothing\> grabbed her ass, sent some inappropriate messages on facebook
51:24 <Nothing\> so they charged me with sexual assault in the end
51:36 <Nothing\> -and now i ave to register as a sex offender FUN!
51:38 <Nothing\> :/
52:13 <Nothing\> rust_collector: yeah i'm hoping i can turn it into something positive
52:57 <Ampera> Is it a timed or permanent registration?
52:59 <Nothing\> so they seized my comuter and phone hoping to get more messages and evidence in supprot of that
53:15 <Nothing\> i'd imagine i'd have to stay on for like 10 years
53:19 <Ampera> ah
53:28 <Ampera> well I'd love to talk more, I really would, but I have to go, someone's outside waiting for me
53:30 <Ampera> bbl, ciao
53:50 <rust_collector> have fun
54:05 <Nothing\> no worries, feel free to ask me whatever you want when you have time
54:10 <Nothing\> i'm an open book about it now
54:17 <Nothing\> been holding this stuff in way too long
54:43 <Nothing\> okay time to eat, bbiab
54:51 <rust_collector> kebab!
11:37 <rust_collector> https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/88233/lebanese-donair/?internalSource=similar_recipe_banner&referringId=71963&referringContentType=Recipe&clickId=simslot_4
11:50 <rust_collector> I think this could be interesting
23:56 <Ysjoelfir> it looks great, like a döner
24:05 <rust_collector> sort of.
25:11 <rust_collector> I was just comparing it to the canadian version. I think I prefer this one
39:10 <rust_collector> oh well. I have to make do with a slice of bread
39:17 <rust_collector> or 4
40:41 <rust_collector> and I will let the fridge door be open while I work on these pieces of bread
44:27 <Ysjoelfir> :O
44:33 <Ysjoelfir> Greta will not be amused
46:05 <rust_collector> well, I can not do anything for her mental issues, she has to seek help from professionals, or wait until she is 18, and go kill herself
48:40 <Ysjoelfir> You bastard :D I like your way of thinking
49:51 <rust_collector> that is after all the best way to reduce her long term carbon footprint
50:59 <rust_collector> Maybe I should mention that to her... she could start nagging about making abortions legal in all the places
51:54 <Ysjoelfir> you should try that
52:14 <rust_collector> yeah, I should.
52:22 <rust_collector> but I am eating
57:02 <rust_collector> https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/es6616/how_to_ground_my_cat/
01:49 <Ysjoelfir> lol
12:02 <rust_collector> ok, going outside to fire up my used oil fueled generator, so I can start my leaky old dishwasher
12:47 <rust_collector> I don't really have to, but this is my favourite spoon
35:27 <rust_collector> I like how the large clive is in some kind of troll mode
00:32 <Ysjoelfir> When I have a house I would love to have a realy old wasching machine. one of those big stand alone things.
00:44 <Ysjoelfir> regarding clive: you mean with like the "scottish ration"?
00:56 <rust_collector> yeah, like that
10:24 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00YSziX9vzw That would be a setup I would like to have :) so basic but I'm pretty sure it would work perfect
12:21 <rust_collector> you could also go down to the river, and beat your clothes on a rock...
12:29 <Ysjoelfir> nah.
12:36 <Ysjoelfir> that would be rather exhausting
13:05 <rust_collector> yeah, that will keep you from making your clothes dirty all the time
13:14 <Ysjoelfir> yep
14:11 <rust_collector> we keep an old aeg semi auto in the basement, for the times when the newer machine craps out
14:48 <Ysjoelfir> We still have an old miele. completely mechanic switchbox. rather indestructible
15:00 <rust_collector> I think we paid 30 euros or so for that thing. And it pretty much can not stop working
15:44 <rust_collector> we used to have a zanker of the same design, but it was gear driven, and the gears started to fail
16:28 <rust_collector> it was a little bit noisy lol
19:52 <Ysjoelfir> you mean like the old one in the video?
20:50 <rust_collector> no, it is a bigger box, with the washing on the left, and a centrifuge on the right. top fed
20:59 <Ysjoelfir> ah
21:13 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRUbe0ggUT0 like that?
21:19 <rust_collector> I like them because they are simple, and they weigh nothing
21:39 <rust_collector> yeah, similar-ish
21:51 <Ampera> .I went to the asian supermarket
21:54 <Ampera> and got a load of deliciousness
22:00 <Ysjoelfir> Hi ampera
22:09 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir
22:26 <Ampera> I got a load of ramen, of various sorts, but I bought 16 packs of sapporo ichiban ramen
22:35 <Ampera> of the flavours beef, shrimp, chicken, and original
22:56 <Ysjoelfir> I like ramen, but even better are udon noodles
23:36 <Ampera> Udon is nice, but soba is the real king
23:44 <Ysjoelfir> sadly we don't have many "special" flavours of ramen hier. basically just beef, pork, shrimp, chicken and veggie
23:52 <Ysjoelfir> what is soba?
24:02 <Ampera> buckwheat noodles
24:24 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I recall having curry ramen in Germany last time I was there
24:30 <Ampera> but it was out of a posh shop, so it was rather shit
26:53 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... that one looks rather robust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw4DeHm6kgo
27:33 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I also bought rice noodles, some miso, thai fish sauce, smoked herring
27:41 <Ampera> and a half dozen century eggs
28:10 <Ysjoelfir> uah. I don't like those eggs. but I like tea eggs
51:05 <rust_collector> talking about that. I think I will look into dpf cleaning, then make pizza
02:00 <rust_collector> ok, wife makes pizza
05:15 <Ysjoelfir> Tell her I want some, too :)
05:47 <rust_collector> get on the boat, she said
05:57 <rust_collector> or helicopter,
07:06 <Ampera> rust_collector: in which nation do you reside in?
07:29 <rust_collector> norwegen
08:22 <Ampera> he could get there by land if he cut through russia
08:39 <rust_collector> yeah,
08:44 <Ampera> though not sure if you count the bridges from denmark land, he could go there too
08:54 <rust_collector> yea
08:58 <Ampera> yeah
09:04 <rust_collector> but it is a long walk
09:07 <Ampera> right on, maaan
09:13 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, do you have a car?
09:25 <Ampera> they also likely have busses and trains
09:29 <rust_collector> the boat takes 3 hours from denmark to just down the road from me
09:45 <rust_collector> it just makes more sense
09:57 <Ampera> a car would probably be even faster
10:02 <Ampera> or a train
10:18 <rust_collector> not faster than the boat, but a car on the boat would
10:42 <Ampera> that must be a fast boat
10:46 <rust_collector> it is
11:28 <rust_collector> Might be why it is called superspeed, lol
13:22 <Ysjoelfir> Yep, I have a nice big old Volvo 940 State Wagon :)
13:52 <rust_collector> stasjonsmestervogn
14:23 <Ysjoelfir> "Kombi" in german. I prefer the german word. but to get from frankfurt to denmark alone would take me about.... 7 to 9 hours.
15:23 <rust_collector> did they move frankfurt?
15:31 <rust_collector> heh, interesting
15:34 <Ysjoelfir> no, why?
16:05 <rust_collector> I think we used to use around 9 hours from kiel to frankfurt, in a truck
16:18 <Ysjoelfir> that is pretty acurate, yes
16:21 <rust_collector> yeah, it was different back then, but... not that much
16:38 <DHess_US> Did your wife make enough pizza for all of us?
16:43 <rust_collector> I miss paper tachograph disks
16:48 <Ysjoelfir> google maps says: 14 hours and 11 minutes
16:52 <rust_collector> oh she is still working on it
17:02 <Ysjoelfir> I do too! my dad used to.. use them while driving
17:24 <Ysjoelfir> then came the electronic drivers cards. I still have his card here
17:27 <rust_collector> they had a weird tendency to catch fire and fly out the window
17:36 <Ysjoelfir> strange, wasn't it?
17:40 <rust_collector> the cards are fun to play with
18:45 <rust_collector> they are just "regular" smart cards, so use any regular card reader. there is free software out there to read them
21:51 <Ysjoelfir> the girlfriuend asked if there will be corn on the pizza :)
22:01 <rust_collector> they can store a lot of driving data. and they just keep filling up, then start overwriting from the start
22:05 <Ysjoelfir> are they? i should try that
22:12 <rust_collector> uhm, I dunno? I am not making it today
22:57 <rust_collector> smells like shredded pig, mince meat, and mushrooms
23:02 <Ysjoelfir> she asked that because she is in a "americans living in norway"-facebook group. and they always complain that there is always corn in everything^^
23:20 <rust_collector> ok
23:25 <Ysjoelfir> but I prefer Pizza Hawaii. Pineapple and Ham :D
23:32 <rust_collector> she needs a better hobby, lol
23:40 <rust_collector> oh canadian style
24:10 <rust_collector> hmm, americans and pizza
24:24 <Ysjoelfir> it's for her personal amusement she says.
24:30 <rust_collector> there was a film called "mystic pizza"
24:48 <rust_collector> I know the couple who used to live there, in the pizza shop
24:51 <Ysjoelfir> yes, americans and pizza is a thing that is rather... dangerous^^
24:57 <Ysjoelfir> ok? :D
25:00 <rust_collector> it was in mystic maine, or mass, not sure
26:06 <rust_collector> they were canadians, they did live here for a few years, then moved to that place. Then they built a new mini farm up in canada
26:43 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a lot of moving oO speaking of americans and pizza - why do they call salami "pepperoni"!?
27:05 <rust_collector> oh, they don't have pepperoni there?
27:22 <Ysjoelfir> DHess_US, can you elaborate?
27:29 <rust_collector> probably the same as the english calling ham bacon
27:53 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure they have, but... somehow they call salami sausage "pepperoni" when it's on pizza
28:13 <rust_collector> I guess it looks similar
28:21 <DHess_US> We have both pepperoni and salami. They are not the same thing. We don't put salami on pizza.
28:28 <rust_collector> most of the dna is the same
29:30 <Ysjoelfir> they are not? but isn't the pepperoni sausage just a different kind of salami? oh, speaking from sausage - I like the norwegian word for sausage. even though I don't really know how to pronounce it.
29:54 <rust_collector> PØLSE!!!
30:35 <Ysjoelfir> right. but I just can't remember if you pronounce the ø like a ö or an o
30:41 <rust_collector> ö
31:02 <rust_collector> but in some areas they say "pysje"
31:05 <rust_collector> I dunno
31:11 <Ysjoelfir> Oo that sounds strange
31:21 <rust_collector> they are
31:29 <rust_collector> I mean yes
31:32 <DHess_US> Pepperoni, like you might expect from the name, is much spicier than salami. I might eat salami plain on crackers or bread but not pepperoni.
31:49 <rust_collector> oh, but you should, it is good
32:02 <DHess_US> I have. It is unpleasant.
32:23 <rust_collector> well, maybe try a less spicy variant.
32:30 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok. but it is more or less the same sausage, just with more oomph?
32:47 <DHess_US> More or less.
33:01 <rust_collector> I think they are similar, just with paprika and pepper things
33:22 <Ysjoelfir> ok. it's just somehow irritating, as when I think of pepperoni i don't think about sausage.
33:39 <rust_collector> I want a pepperoni tree
33:49 <Ysjoelfir> https://images.eatsmarter.de/sites/default/files/styles/facebook/public/warenkunde_peperoni_c_miroslawa_drozdowski_341x256.jpg
33:56 <Ysjoelfir> that is more what I think about
34:24 <rust_collector> polish chilli?
34:45 <Ysjoelfir> I don't care where they come from
35:03 <DHess_US> You should get a spaghetti tree.
35:10 <rust_collector> yeah
35:17 <rust_collector> that would be nice
35:23 <Ysjoelfir> that would be great
35:29 <rust_collector> it is a kind of cactus, I think?
35:36 <Ysjoelfir> xD
35:48 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU
37:48 <rust_collector> yes, the swiss has a nicer spaghetti, imo
59:03 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, yes, it had corn
00:55 <Ysjoelfir> the gf is very happe that she guessed right^^
01:32 <rust_collector> give her 3 stars
19:54 <T3sl4> microslaw? mmm
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50:25 <rust_collector> then she said it just exploded, I have no idea
50:45 <rust_collector> it was not great, dead people everywhere
51:02 <rust_collector> I have to find a mop... laters
51:06 <MrMobodies> an explosion?
51:17 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I hate it when that happens
51:23 <Ysjoelfir> bloody idiots
51:27 <rust_collector> aye
51:53 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, come on, it can't be that hard?
52:40 <rust_collector> all cops are criminals
52:54 <Ysjoelfir> indeed they are
53:12 <MrMobodies> just noticed one force is selling stuff on ebay
53:24 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/sussexpolice-auctions
53:30 <MrMobodies> I never known them to do that before
53:56 <Ysjoelfir> should have done that earlyer
54:03 <Ysjoelfir> many people would still be alive then I guess
54:05 <rust_collector> probably just some pikeys
54:12 <rust_collector> well, yes
54:58 <rust_collector> but ok, I have to go clean up all this crap before the cops show up
57:16 <MrMobodies> One of my 6 port nic came, wrapped in plastic film, no static bag it didn't work. The other one came in the same packaging but it worked so they can rule out the compatibility argument.
58:23 <MrMobodies> I have had a few wraped in film before and they worked but I tell the seller I expect it in anti static bags.
59:15 <MrMobodies> and it is time tonight to upgrade the pfsense with the hex port and a small ssd is waiting
00:15 <rust_collector> tell the guy to at least wrap it in aluminium foil
00:58 <MrMobodies> Tomorrow after I am finished testing the working on one I am going open a case with the pictures.
01:17 <rust_collector> I wonder how I am supposed to get the church bus out of park, so I can push it into the woods
01:38 <DHess_US> ESD and anti-static aren't the same thing. It really needs to be an ESD bag.
01:45 <rust_collector> maybe just disconnect the linkage on the transmission, but it is icky under there
01:57 <MrMobodies> is the ESD the metal one?
02:23 <MrMobodies> when I say anti static I mean the metal one not the pink stuff.
02:26 <DHess_US> Metal would work but an ESD bag also shields against ESD. An anti-static bag just prevents static buildup.
03:27 <DHess_US> Expansion cards are actually pretty well protected once all of the parts are soldered on.
03:34 <MrMobodies> I remembered Dave jones video on it
03:35 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imdtXcnywb8
05:23 <MrMobodies> I found when I insert something in the PCI-e 16x slot the PCI slot at the end stops working. Under the latest PFsense it works.
05:37 <MrMobodies> so I am pleased about that I can keep the four port and add the 6 port nic
05:56 <MrMobodies> maybe it is the way it handles the IRQ's
07:32 <Nothing\> yippy
07:37 <Nothing\> i bought a clamp meter
07:42 <MrMobodies> The 4 port and 6 port cards are both Intel 82571
07:51 <rust_collector> Nothing\, ship it over
07:57 <Nothing\> just a cheap like, $20 one i found at a surplus store, but still, i'd been meaning to buy one
08:07 <MrMobodies> sounds like a bargain no shipping
08:17 <Nothing\> rust_collector: they sell em on aliexpress for like $5 free shipping
08:19 <rust_collector> does it do dc?
08:23 <Nothing\> frankly i overpaid
08:33 <Nothing\> dc current through clamping?
08:39 <rust_collector> ya
08:39 <Nothing\> or just dc in general?
08:45 <rust_collector> the clamp
08:51 <Nothing\> lol no, i don't think dc current trhough clamping is possible, is it?
08:55 <rust_collector> it is
09:07 <rust_collector> it does cost a bit more
09:11 <Nothing\> i guess it would still produce a magnetic field which could be measured, huh
09:37 <Nothing\> i also got 2 glass prisms of pretty good quality, but damned if i can make em rainbow
09:37 <rust_collector> This is why I do not have a clamp meter
09:42 <rust_collector> heh
10:25 <Nothing\> and some nice like 3cm x 0.25cm neodiddlium magnets
10:36 <rust_collector> nothing like surplus glass prisms
10:38 <Nothing\> and of course, i chipped em within minutes of opening them
11:09 <Nothing\> well, i chipped one of the smaller, 1cm ones anyways
11:32 <Nothing\> but yeah, i'm not sure about the specs of this meter yet, i haven't had a chance to read the documentation yet
11:53 <rust_collector> rub them with peenut oil, and feed some small animal with them. I want to see pics of a squirrel stuck to a tractor or something
12:14 <Nothing\> i tried to measure the current on a lamp with an LED bulmb and it showed like 0.002amps, which slowly went down to 0
12:34 <Nothing\> lol
12:51 <Nothing\> when you're just a kid and you wanna go wee
12:57 <Nothing\> but you ain't got drugs yet
13:03 <Nothing\> just hold onto your life
13:07 <Nothing\> hold onto to your little
13:09 <Nothing\> gonads
13:10 <Nothing\> and strife
13:22 <Nothing\> gonads and strife gonads and strife gonads and strife
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13:23 <MrMobodies> my frames broke today
13:38 <MrMobodies> I may have to travel 200 miles to my old optician
13:39 <Nothing\> aww damn MrMobodies that suckso man
13:48 <Nothing\> how old were they?
13:49 <MrMobodies> it is holding with glue
13:52 <MrMobodies> 2015
13:57 <MrMobodies> I dropped them a couple of times
14:00 <Nothing\> i've had mine for like 10 years and they're still in pretty good condition
14:03 <MrMobodies> best frames I ever had
14:12 <Nothing\> a tad bent and some paint chipped btu otherwise they've held up beautifully
14:18 <MrMobodies> they don't often fall off because they are narrow like hthe others
14:26 <Nothing\> i especially love the transition lenses, you ever use those things?
14:26 <rust_collector> I wonder if 3d printing them would be a thing
14:38 <MrMobodies> that would be good in future
14:40 <Nothing\> the lenses that darken automatically on exposure to uv
14:52 <MrMobodies> these have tht too
14:59 <MrMobodies> brown tining on real glass
15:11 <MrMobodies> they tried to talk me into plastics but I said no
15:18 <MrMobodies> I find plastics hard to clean
15:33 <MrMobodies> in the past I ended up with OCD and a temper over it
15:35 <Nothing\> like, plastic lenses?
15:37 <Nothing\> or plastic frames?
15:46 <MrMobodies> plastic frams glass lenses
15:47 <Nothing\> but yeah i need my lenses to be perfectly pristine
15:54 <Nothing\> ah i see
15:59 <MrMobodies> benefit is, I can see behind me
16:08 <MrMobodies> it is good at reflecting
16:21 <MrMobodies> just focus out a little and I can see behind in certain light
16:34 <MrMobodies> I am paranoid when walking in public
16:38 <Nothing\> oh yeah, the clamp meter i got, it's a EM266 digital clamp meter ,cyd 261 rlycrb (500v) insulation tester
16:42 <Nothing\> so sayeth the label
16:50 <Nothing\> no brand on it, so you know it's chinesium
17:19 <Nothing\> MrMobodies: lol i used to do that too, looking at the reflection in my lens to see what's behind me
17:32 <MrMobodies> this one https://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.html
17:36 <rust_collector> either super ultra high spec, or a china relabeled north korean design
17:46 <Nothing\> ugh super terrible heartburn
17:57 <Nothing\> but i just took some meds so i can't hake any tums cuz it might interfere
18:44 <Nothing\> MrMobodies: that looks aobut right, except the clamp on mine is yellow
19:12 <MrMobodies> Sturdy design and it look sturdy,
19:34 <Nothing\> yeah it's not half bad
20:43 <Nothing\> i bought a generic $20 multimeter at this same surplus store when i got into electronics like 3 years ago and aside from a few blown 250ma fuses, it still works a treat
22:12 <MrMobodies> ThunderF00t did a video on a person who reviewed a dehumidifier.
22:29 <MrMobodies> Unboxed therapy
22:38 <MrMobodies> I don't know what to make of it
23:20 <MrMobodies> He reviews some really strange things like this audio player that influences a fire but then you need to light it
23:21 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdYNCAFtK1Y
24:11 <MrMobodies> and the way he speaks too it sounds strange to me.
25:33 <MrMobodies> but he critises his water from air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-EEj7TiR1w
26:21 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxxf01KUjMA
29:42 <DHess_US> <Nothing\> i guess it would still produce a magnetic field which could be measured, huh
29:48 <MrMobodies> I like that better, pilot flame
30:00 <DHess_US> There are a couple of ways to make a DC current clamp. I know of at least three.
31:26 <DHess_US> Use a linear hall effect sensor to measure the DC flux through the core (slow), Use a hall-effect sensor to balance the flux through the core (fast), and use a flux-gate to balance the flux through the core (fast).
34:25 <DHess_US> Oh, I think there is an optical way. So that is four.
34:33 <Nothing\> DHess_US: that reminds me, i actually have some hallf effect sensors i ordered a while back that i've yet to do anything with
34:46 <Nothing\> maybe an idea for a future project when i'm a free man
36:27 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_effect
36:34 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optic_Kerr_effect
36:48 <DHess_US> So that is four ways.
37:21 <DHess_US> Nothing\, the early Tektronix AC/DC current probes are fully documented.
38:05 <DHess_US> It wouldn't be difficult to build one but there are some mechanical issues which require optical grade machining.
38:27 <Nothing\> heh i remember once when i was maybe less than a year into my journey into electronics, i decided to try and measure the hall effect, so i took a large sheet of Al foil, put electrodes at either end to deliver i think just 12v from AA batteries, or maybe more and connected a volt meter to the foil perpendicular to the electrodes, so using north south west east convention, i had my electrodes on the north and south end and
38:27 <Nothing\> t and west end
39:16 <Nothing\> and the idea was that once i was passing current through the foil, i would use a strong magnet to try and "deflect" the current to one side of the foil or the other, which i could measure on the volt meter
39:22 <Nothing\> but it never worked :/
39:31 <rust_collector> aaaawwww.
39:41 <Nothing\> DHess_US: that's the problem though, machining is out of my league
39:46 <rust_collector> It would be cool if that did work
40:13 <Nothing\> rust_collector: maybe it would have if i used a different metal or high current, or a stronger magnet, who knows
40:35 <Nothing\> DHess_US: thanks for the links though, i'll add em to my reading material
40:39 <DHess_US> If you can lap glass to be flat, then you can make one.
41:17 <DHess_US> The core has to be lapped where it is cut in half so that the surfaces accurately meet.
41:31 <rust_collector> you can do a lot of machining with a hacksaw, a file, sand paper, and some stuff for lapping
42:00 <Nothing\> lapped?
42:18 <DHess_US> Probably need an inspection plate to provide a smooth surface but they are not expensive.
42:50 <DHess_US> The surfaces where the core is cut in half need to fit perfectly together. They have a mirror finish.
42:54 <Nothing\> actually, i have got a dremel tool, but nowhere to use it where it wouldn't make a terrible mess
43:13 <rust_collector> dremels are made to make a mess
43:35 <DHess_US> Otherwise the sensitivity of the current probe varies all over the place and calibration cannot be maintained.
44:00 <Nothing\> yeah, plus i was using one of those shitty jyetech oscilloscope kits
44:16 <Nothing\> where now i have a proper scope, a hante dso5202p
44:30 <rust_collector> you mean one of the awesome dso138s
44:33 <rust_collector> yes
45:26 <Nothing\> yeah, they're great for the price, i'll admit
45:28 <rust_collector> Precision machining is pretty interesting stuff.
45:31 <Ysjoelfir> The only proper scope is a Tek 555 :D
45:34 <Nothing\> but as far as scopes go, they're not the greatest
46:02 <DHess_US> Not a Tektronix 7844?
46:47 <Nothing\> nah, hantek seemed to be the best for my money
47:24 <rust_collector> hmm, mr carlsons lab mr carlson did a video about a small tek "travel scope" it was battery powered. I really liked that thing.
47:34 <Ysjoelfir> the 7844 is ok :)
47:55 <DHess_US> Eh, you can buy a Tektronix 2232 for $100 if you know what to look for.
48:27 <rust_collector> yeah, then you pay 200 to get it shipped to anywhere outside the us
49:26 <Nothing\> i was always wondering, if i took a usb powered RLC meter and wanted to measure the output with my scope, would that be safe to do?
50:39 <Nothing\> i'm always scared of connecting the ground probe to a signal referenced above ground
52:43 <DHess_US> It could be very unsafe.
53:10 <DHess_US> Like "blow out a ground trace on the motherboard" unsafe.
53:56 <DHess_US> If the laptop is running on battery power than it may be safe if nothing else is connected.
54:13 <DHess_US> And if the laptop uses a two lead power connection it should be safe.
54:49 <rust_collector> hmm, how about measuring voltage between the 2 "grounds"?
55:58 <DHess_US> Sure, use two probes as a differential probe.
56:14 <DHess_US> And don't connect the probe grounds except to each other.
56:39 <rust_collector> I mean, ok, but how about just using a multimeter?
57:10 <rust_collector> from the scope ground, to the usb ground
58:27 <rust_collector> and, if they are at the same or pretty similar voltage, could he scope the output of the lcr meter?
59:31 <rust_collector> I guess he should get a laptop, lol
01:27 <Nothing\> id' like to see a video of somebody connecting the ground of their oscilloscope to the hot lead of their mains
01:36 <Nothing\> just to see what happens
02:04 <Nothing\> whether the wire between the clip and the probe really would act like a fuse and melt, or if the whole scope would just go kablooey
04:52 <MrMobodies> I would like an opinion?
04:59 <Nothing\> but yeah like for the LCR meter, i've always wanted to get a scope reading on what it's doing when it measures it
05:32 <Nothing\> but i'm afraid to connect it in case the part i have my ground lead connected to goes above ground reference
05:38 <Nothing\> MrMobodies: yeah man, shoot
05:39 <Nothing\> what's up
05:47 <MrMobodies> eBay and their feedback system
06:07 <DHess_US> I've done that before using a multimeter but sometimes there might be high frequency content which a multimeter won't see.
06:14 <MrMobodies> if I brought something. Seller makes a mistakes, apologetic, returned and refunded. I won't leave negative feedback
06:43 <MrMobodies> If the seller sells out a knowingly dodgy item... a "new" item
06:50 <Nothing\> ah, can't speak for ebay, any time i tried to get an account with them, they'd always just reject my credit card for some reason, maybe cuz iit's a debit card credit card
06:53 <DHess_US> Nothing, I've done it before accidently. Once had the probe ground turn white hot and helt.
07:03 <Nothing\> which really sucks ass, i'd love to get an analog scope on ebay
07:08 <Nothing\> or an analo scope period
07:24 <Nothing\> i tried making lissajous figures on my DSO the other day and they were so shitty
07:27 <MrMobodies> say a keyboard... it is not new, has reprinted keys badly done they put a fake manufacturers warranty on it,
07:58 <MrMobodies> if I am refunded, no communication should I not leave negative feedback...
08:10 <MrMobodies> describing the issue to warn others
09:01 <rust_collector> yeah, you should, but otoh, it is not how it works, I think.
09:02 <MrMobodies> the seller did comply with Ebay but they are mis selling used or broken things as new.
09:36 <rust_collector> but, just give them a bad feedback anyway
10:19 <Nothing\> DHess_US: yeah i've used one multimeter to measure the current used by another meter to measure things like forward voltages on diodes or resistance
10:37 <Nothing\> but never had the balls to try it with an LCR meter run on usb from mains
10:50 <Nothing\> although i guess the step down transformer would provid isolation would it not?
10:58 <Nothing\> in the usb adapter's power supply
11:41 <Nothing\> MrMobodies: i would warn others tbh
11:46 <rust_collector> I saw a guy hooking a big fluke clamp meter across the battery charging cables on a forklift. I am not sure what he was trying to measure
11:46 <Nothing\> i'd feel remiss otherwise
12:06 <Nothing\> rust_collector: was that AvE?
12:17 <rust_collector> no, it was a guy up here
12:27 <Nothing\> i vaguely recall him doing something with a forklift battery at one point
12:30 <Nothing\> ah i see
12:31 <MrMobodies> I did give them bad feedback
12:35 <MrMobodies> but it got removed.
12:45 <MrMobodies> Ebay said it was automoated if they comply
12:46 <Nothing\> what line of work are you in rust_collector? if you don't mind my asking
12:53 <rust_collector> I would not trust your power supply thing to be isolated
13:17 <MrMobodies> here we go
13:19 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/80ayoY0.jpg
13:23 <Nothing\> rust_collector: i would assume unless it's a capacitive dropper, it should be isolated by a transformerw would it not?
13:33 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/fdbk/feedback_profile/notebookspares?filter=period:TWELVE_MONTHS,overall_rating:NEGATIVE&limit=25
13:35 <rust_collector> I move stuff for, what used to be the norwegian post
14:08 <Nothing\> i mean if there's a transformer in there you'd expect isolation
14:08 <MrMobodies> Last time I left negative feedback... the seller didn't comply but sent a defamation form to remove the words.
14:32 <Nothing\> lol MrMobodies
14:37 <Nothing\> terrible
15:52 <rust_collector> so yea, in general I am a truck driver. Also do other things
16:02 <Nothing\> ah rigt on
16:12 <Nothing\> i always figured truck driver would be a nice job
16:37 <MrMobodies> here is a picture. they did a bad job on reprinting the keys
16:38 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/s8J0X73.jpg
16:47 <rust_collector> well, I guess you are about to get a feel for that job in not too long...
17:17 <MrMobodies> and the fake manufacturers sticker
17:17 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/7XhPG5q.jpg
17:23 <Nothing\> weird, fireworks outside
17:39 <MrMobodies> I didn't hear many fireworks last year
17:45 <MrMobodies> it was raining all the time
18:04 <rust_collector> they banned celebrating in china, so I guess they do it over there?
18:14 <Nothing\> was raining here all day. it only just stopped
19:06 <Nothing\> ah yeah it is chinese newwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
19:06 <Nothing\> nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
19:09 <MrMobodies> I have an idea
19:11 <Nothing\> ah shit, sorry guys
19:18 <Nothing\> i've gotta stop doing that
19:29 <MrMobodies> if I am open a thread on eevblog forum, some name and shame Ebay sellers for dishonesty
19:29 <rust_collector> yeah, wake up
19:50 <MrMobodies> would that cause trouble outside if the seller discovers it?
20:51 <rust_collector> I guess it would just end up being an impossibly long thread that no one would read thru anyway
22:02 <MrMobodies> but no legal trouble.
22:16 <MrMobodies> just an idea if it is a terrible one... maybe it would get too long
22:43 <rust_collector> I doubt it would cause any issues for the forum
22:54 <rust_collector> not
22:57 <rust_collector> would not
22:58 <Nothing\> they should have a filter or something where if you repeat the same key so many times it just ignores all subsequent key presses for a short time
23:06 <Ampera> hi Nothing\, how are you
23:25 <Nothing\> osn..ly
23:27 <Nothing\> er
23:29 <Nothing\> sleepy
23:32 <Nothing\> how about you?
23:44 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:55 <MrMobodies> cooking?
24:01 <Ampera> I already cooked
24:06 <Nothing\> right on
24:15 <rust_collector> that does look a bit like a happy ball in a wok
25:20 <MrMobodies> time for some tea
25:25 <MrMobodies> it has been two weeks
25:31 <MrMobodies> due to the cold
26:28 <Ampera> I'm hoping they give you a slap on the wrist, Nothing\, do you know what the maximum sentence will be?
26:37 <Ampera> er, is
27:25 <Nothing\> Ampera: 3 months at least
27:39 <Nothing\> plus sex offender counselling and probation :/
27:58 <Ampera> but what is the max
28:05 <Nothing\> 2 years :/
28:11 <Nothing\> i doubt they'd give me that, though
28:11 <Ampera> hm
28:24 <Ampera> well you entered a guilty plea, so they usually give lighter sentences for that
28:32 <Nothing\> this prison i'm going to is the worst in canada, too
28:42 <Ampera> define worst
30:46 <Ampera> like worst here would be no visitation, cell structure is anarchy, and you have to pay cash money for the time you spent when you get out
30:52 <rust_collector> very cheap bricks, with flaking paint. also they use vinyl flooring, not english oak
31:00 <Nothing\> like, understaffed, 1 guard for 120 people, most violent, some guy was strangled to death with piano wire, they only use cameras to keep an eye on eerything
33:16 <Ampera> that's pretty much all of our prisons
33:25 <Ampera> even the good ones
34:12 <Nothing\> one guy was staying there before his trial and managed to get 2.5 days for every 1 served in there because conditions were so bad
35:45 <MrMobodies> I have been to prison and Nothing sounds too nice to good to such a place.
36:04 <MrMobodies> I thought they're for murders and so on
36:24 <MrMobodies> oops
36:28 <MrMobodies> I have NEVER been to prison
36:48 <MrMobodies> I have never been in a police station before
37:05 <MrMobodies> I don't know why I find them frightening places
37:06 <Nothing\> i've only been to what's called "open custody" as a youth, which is like a half way house, buti was still bullied and abused badly
37:38 <Ampera> I am a person with a very simple theory.
37:40 <MrMobodies> is that like the youth detention centers?
37:45 <Ampera> Don't do illegal shit, don't go to prison.
37:45 <Nothing\> ugh i need some more strawberry nesquick, this heartburn is awful
37:46 <Ampera> That simple.
38:05 <Nothing\> MrMobodies: not quite, it's more like a halfway house full of kids, but nobody can leave
38:12 <MrMobodies> yes honesty is the best policy
38:46 <MrMobodies> when they mix troubled people from other troubled background it doesn't always seem to go down too good.
38:52 <rust_collector> honesty... or hiding the bodies well enough
39:10 <Ampera> Prisons are like schools
39:14 <MrMobodies> I see that as a joke on my name...
39:16 <Ampera> nobody knows how to fix them, and everyone say they suck
39:17 <MrMobodies> oh yes
39:36 <Ampera> yet they are crucial to the development and success of millions of people
39:50 <Nothing\> where the youth detention centers, or "closed custody" was just your standard prison with one block specifically for young offenders
40:02 <MrMobodies> I once stayed at an educational doctors house
40:06 <MrMobodies> she was in her 80's
40:23 <MrMobodies> and most of the her students had criminal records for all sortof things
40:44 <Nothing\> i spent 6 months in a place called CPRI, child psychological research institute because i was nutty
40:47 <MrMobodies> drugs, guns, violence, crooks...
41:01 <MrMobodies> but they were all well behaved in the day but not the night when they went out
41:16 <rust_collector> but drugs and guns are legal over there
41:36 <MrMobodies> I am in England
41:47 <rust_collector> yes, that is why I said over there
41:57 <MrMobodies> I wanted to show them my gear but it brought on a whole new meaning
42:36 <Ampera> Crime is an endless cycle that dooms us all.
43:01 <Ampera> It is what happens when people become abandoned and lost.
43:02 <MrMobodies> people can live above their means and use crime to pay for it
43:21 <Ampera> White collar crime is a different sort of crime
43:26 <rust_collector> we can not all be politicians...
44:24 <MrMobodies> I thought I was abandoned and lost then I see other people are having it worse to the point that their health is failing
45:18 <Ampera> We are all abandoned, it is those who are capable of surviving on their own who are capable of pretending like they are not.
49:00 <MrMobodies> in about half an hour I am going to try the latest 64bit edition of Pfsense
49:13 <MrMobodies> I got it all prepared
49:33 <Ampera> I'm waiting for 2.5 to be released as stable, because it has some features that I'd love to use
49:49 <MrMobodies> what kind of lovely features?
50:00 <Ampera> like DynDNS support for my DNS provider
50:18 <MrMobodies> I am going to test this one
50:19 <MrMobodies> pfSense-CE-2.4.4-RELEASE-p3-amd64.iso
51:07 <MrMobodies> I have been using that 2.1.5 since August 2015 so it is time
51:24 <Ampera> That's what I'm on right now
51:46 <MrMobodies> it's been quite good no problems over the years, a few glitches here and there but nothing major for what I use it for.
52:12 <MrMobodies> oh 2.4.4?
52:29 <Ampera> I use pfSense to run my main router. I'd like to one day replace it with raw FreeBSD, as it'll allow me more flexibility (maybe even raw OpenBSD), but those are much harder to configure.
53:22 <Ampera> Apparently some magic study came out that proclaimed that giving children puberty blockers is completely safe and reversible
53:32 <Ampera> which I know for a fact to be definitive bullshit by definition
53:40 <Ampera> but people are still running around with it and cheering anyways
54:00 <Ampera> and probably use it as an excuse to drug the fuck out of some kids, no doubt at brilliant profit figures.
54:01 <MrMobodies> and those hormone tablet that the NHS funds
54:12 <MrMobodies> I though they were for other medical treatments
54:43 <Ampera> Hormone blockers are a genuine medicine with genuine uses, Gender dysphoria should not be one of them.
55:53 <Ampera> I think gender dysphoria is one of the worst mental conditions someone could possibly have, because not only is there no cure, not even something, but people are actively trying to prohibit and obfuscate research and people genuinely trying to help people with it
57:09 <MrMobodies> I once met someone at a school. Who told me they had both they had both reproductive organs. The staff told me it was true but to keep quiet about it.
57:51 <MrMobodies> They had all sorts of people and some who look normal from the outside.
58:27 <MrMobodies> but they were okay
58:38 <MrMobodies> they were happy with what they were
58:48 <Nothing\> i dunno if it's something i'm doing but i tried my clamp meter on my microwave and it only showed a reading of 0.01 whatever units
59:03 <Nothing\> but apparently the lowest range it has is 200amps so...
59:14 <Nothing\> either 200 or 1000
59:27 <Nothing\> which i dunnowho the hell would need a clamp meter that measures that much current
59:36 <Nothing\> maybe i should try it on my junction box
59:42 <MrMobodies> you cut the cable cover to reach for one of the wires
59:58 <MrMobodies> for the flamp i mean
00:04 <Nothing\> do what now?
00:05 <MrMobodies> ooops
00:18 <MrMobodies> to measure your microwave on the clamp meter
00:30 <Nothing\> yeah, like i put the clamp on the power cord
01:02 <Nothing\> methinks i may have to read more about it than just the rudimentary instructions that came with it
01:18 <Nothing\> which i read as i was nodding in and out of consciousness from my meds
01:27 <MrMobodies> meds?
01:47 <Nothing\> i got some anxiety meds for the stress of my impending incarceration
02:04 <Nothing\> on top of my regular methadone i take for an addiction to opioids
02:39 <MrMobodies> oh dear... impending incarceration
02:44 <Nothing\> i literally take enough medication each day to kill a normal person several times over
03:00 <MrMobodies> so if you don't go to prison you won't need the medication.
03:08 <Nothing\> right
03:19 <Nothing\> i could even taper off of my methadone if i didn't have this hanging over me
03:51 <Nothing\> my hope is that once all is said and done with i can actually do some real work on it, but such things just can't be done while under this kind of stress
04:06 <MrMobodies> I hope the judges rule on that one... it would more convenient not to jail you.
04:29 <Nothing\> wel it's a mandatory minimum of 3 months, so either way i'm going to jail
04:43 <MrMobodies> isn't house arrest not an option?
04:48 <MrMobodies> where they'd fit a tag
04:50 <Nothing\> hahaha nope
04:56 <Nothing\> they really fucked me around with that
05:45 <Nothing\> my initial charges were a minimum of 9 months total, so my lawyer tells me he struck up a deal wiith the crown (like the DA) where i could get get probation for a lesser charge
05:51 <Nothing\> but the police said no dice
05:51 <MrMobodies> so they are jailing you for drugs?
06:20 <Nothing\> so then my lawyer proposed house arrest
06:23 <Nothing\> still no deal
06:33 <Nothing\> and finally we settled on the 3 month minimum
07:08 <Nothing\> nah
07:13 <Nothing\> sexual assault :/
07:15 <MrMobodies> I know they use to have places in England, they were similar to mental hospitals but for people with drink and drugs.
07:17 <MrMobodies> oh
07:31 <Nothing\> i was fucked up and made a pass at my brother's ex wife
07:35 <Nothing\> then slapped her ass
07:53 <Nothing\> it was meant to be jovial, but apparently that's not how she took it
07:55 <MrMobodies> you mean drunk?
08:13 <Nothing\> well, i was on ativan which is as good as being drunk
08:48 <MrMobodies> so it is a psychological condition
09:02 <MrMobodies> with the side effects of the medication
10:10 <Nothing\> plus i'd been on testosterone shots legally at the time on the advice of my doctor, which made me obsess about sex constantly
10:21 <Nothing\> i'm not saying it's an excuse, but a contributing factor
11:08 <Nothing\> it is what it is and i did what i did and take respnsibility for that, as regretable as it is
12:12 <Nothing\> so yeah it was an unfortunate set of circumstances
15:38 <rust_collector> mmm, I just trimmed my face hair. That took 15 years off, so now I just look like a 45 yo
15:39 <MrMobodies> I don't see how sending you to jail will help you... but that's sound sad.
15:41 <rust_collector> WHEE!
15:54 <rust_collector> it is not about helping hin
17:24 <MrMobodies> Time for me to test the Pfsense 2.4.4
17:40 <rust_collector> good luck
18:23 <rust_collector> Nothing\, maybe you should have a short extension lead, if you want to measure things like a microwave?
19:35 <Nothing\> how do you mean? like a short power cord?
19:42 <rust_collector> yeah
20:28 <rust_collector> with the outer insulation slit open, and one of the inner wires pulled out, so you can clamp that
20:48 <Nothing\> no no not that sort of clamp
20:57 <Nothing\> not a clamp that physically attaches to the wire
21:11 <rust_collector> it has to be around a conductor, no?
21:11 <Nothing\> one that goes around the wire, to measure the magnetic field
21:18 <rust_collector> yes....
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21:30 <Nothing\> hrm i'm not sure i folllow
22:13 <rust_collector> so you have to put it around ONE of the conductors, or you will be measuring 2 conductors in opposite direction, so they cancel out
22:24 <Nothing\> oooohhhhhh
22:27 <Nothing\> okay
22:31 <Nothing\> yeah i was measuring both
22:36 <rust_collector> mmhmm
22:43 <Nothing\> i didn't think of that, but yeah they'd cancel eachother out wouldn't they
22:49 <Nothing\> DUR
22:57 <rust_collector> I think they would be close to, anyway
23:13 <Nothing\> yeah like i said i was getting like 0.01amp
24:58 <rust_collector> also remember you can loop the wire around the clamp, then divide by number of turns, or so, to measure lower currents
25:05 <Nothing\> i'll have to try that with on of my expendible microwaves
25:14 <rust_collector> heh
25:42 <rust_collector> I want you to build a small shed by stacking up microwaves
25:54 <rust_collector> or some other small building
26:44 <Nothing\> https://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter
26:45 <Nothing\> https://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter
26:50 <Nothing\> https://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter
26:55 <Nothing\> https://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-te
26:59 <Nothing\> oh fuck
27:03 <Nothing\> sorry guys
27:05 <Nothing\> fell asleep on the keyboard
27:06 <Ampera> T_T
27:12 <rust_collector> how about this one: https://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-tester-em266-200290.htmlhttps://www.e-deala.co.uk/1000a-ac-digital-multimeter-clamp-meter-te
27:23 <Nothing\> rust_collector: i think mine was better
27:45 <rust_collector> ok, I am uneducated, so
28:12 <Nothing\> i'm largely self educated since grade 9
28:12 <rust_collector> yes I am sorry to have disturbed your... linking
28:46 <rust_collector> I actually do have an education, but I do not use it
29:46 <rust_collector> 2 years in school, and 3 years as an apprentice. then a year or two of work, then I found something else to do
36:00 <Nothing\> okay rust_collector so i'm just gonna take an extension cord and cut the two wires apart so i can clamp onto one of them at a time
36:13 <Nothing\> that way i can use it for more than just the microwave
36:22 <rust_collector> yup.
36:37 <rust_collector> have fun
36:42 <rust_collector> bring a ladder
36:44 <Nothing\> oh i will
37:13 <rust_collector> there is always some random wires going where you juuust can not reach
37:13 <Nothing\> speaking of ladders, another experiment i wanted to do was in measuring the voltage gradient with altitude
37:34 <rust_collector> the what?
37:39 <Nothing\> in feynman's lectures he talks about how there's a gradient of 100v per meter
38:08 <Nothing\> but you can't measure it easily because of grounding effects or some such , wasn't 100% on it as i just sorta skimmed through it
38:15 <Nothing\> lemme find it for you
39:01 <rust_collector> I got it
39:30 <Nothing\> here
39:31 <Nothing\> https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html
39:50 <Nothing\> i thought this was really interesting
40:11 <Nothing\> there's a channel called rimmstar.org where the guy makes an electrical generator using this effect
40:30 <Nothing\> it doens't do much, just spins a little wheel quite slowly, but it's still pretty neat
40:58 <Nothing\> i can never remember the name of the generator though, i always wanna call it a corona generator but that's jut dead wrong
40:58 <EEVBlog> Halcyon is interested, Nothing\!
41:16 <Nothing\> i bet he is, robut
44:33 <rust_collector> I have nothing against knowing that this voltage exists, but has anyone made it do anything more than just exist? There can not be much current to find there
47:33 <rust_collector> anyway, that is a nice paper
48:04 <Nothing\> rust_collector: the whole series of lectures are amazing if you've never read them
48:20 <Nothing\> there is also a video series of them available on YouTube
48:26 <rust_collector> but if you have read them, they are crap, lol
48:56 <Nothing\> and i got that wire split, man they don't make it easy to do that, i figured it would be like splitting the wires from an RCA cable
49:03 <Nothing\> rust_collector: : why do you say that?
49:47 <rust_collector> because you said that if you had not read them, they are amazing. so I assumed they were not so awesome if you had
52:02 <Nothing\> oh, i meant that i didn't need to tell you how awesome they are if you'd already read them
52:28 <rust_collector> I am just being awkward
23:08 <Ampera> I've got my Power mac G5 going
23:30 <Ampera> I had a bit of an issue with the optical drive being half dead, so I managed to hack together a replacement.
23:56 <Ampera> eevblog time
23:56 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 12:23 Sydney time.
24:03 <Ampera> right time for Halcyon to be reporting in >:D
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30:18 <MrMobodies> it's working... I put in the 2 hex ports and no problems so far with IRQ's that affects the PCI-X slots
30:48 <MrMobodies> and the 256gb SSD flash drive is so much quicker to bootup compared to the 160gb 7200rp seagate
31:21 <MrMobodies> I am going to give squid a go. It wasn't working to good with 2.1.5.
32:24 <MrMobodies> it would cache radio stations and play back stuff from weeks ago and all sorts if wiered things happen with it turned on.
33:15 <MrMobodies> oh glue gave up so had to put a bit of electrical tape just when I was going to toilet and the light broke,
33:22 <Nothing\> heh i'm gonna try to separate iron from cereal using these neodiddlium magnets i got today
33:41 <Nothing\> got a ziploc bag of lucky charms that i'm crushing up right now a la mr wizard
34:51 <Nothing\> then, if i recall correctly, i can just add osme water and the iron particles should follow the magnets
35:21 <rust_collector> whyyyyyyy do you have iron in your cereal?
36:02 <Nothing\> because almost all breakfast cereal is fortified with iron, minerals and vitamins
36:06 <rust_collector> you mean like taking the iron out of blood?
36:08 <rust_collector> ok
36:17 <Nothing\> just grab a random box and look at the nutritional info, there's a good bit of iron in them
36:39 <rust_collector> I have not seen a cereal box in... probably 20 years
36:44 <rust_collector> but ok
37:45 <Nothing\> it's usually listed as 30 or 40%, but i'm assuming that's % of your daily recommended intake, rather than by mass lol
38:00 <rust_collector> I sort of hope it is, yes
38:19 <Nothing\> ypou ever read about iron toxicity? it's really nasty stuff
38:27 <DHess_US> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wheaties-cereal-sticks-to-magnets-because-it-iron/
38:57 <rust_collector> why not just lick a tractor?
39:23 <Nothing\> that's what my salt lick is for
39:27 <DHess_US> or cook with a cast iron pan
40:05 <DHess_US> Incidentally, the iron tablets I have here do *not* stick to a magnet. They are iron sulphate.
40:27 <Nothing\> these are really hard to crush up
40:36 <Nothing\> i'm gonna have to find some other way
40:58 <Nothing\> oh good stepping on them works
41:06 <Nothing\> lset's hope the bags hold up
42:08 <rust_collector> I think you can put the water in, then crush them after a bit
42:34 <Nothing\> i think the water just serves to make the iron particles more mobile, doesn't it?
43:17 <Nothing\> actually hell, i should ask my mom if she has a blender or a food processor
44:47 <DHess_US> A coffee grinder would be ideal.
44:52 <rust_collector> I would think it would soften the chunks too?
44:58 <DHess_US> They are great for making flour.
51:15 <rust_collector> oh great, now I want some turkish style coffee
56:48 <rust_collector> vietnamese egg coffee... ok I have never heard of that
02:29 <Nothing\> well, coffee grinder worked a treat
03:36 <DHess_US> People use them to grind up marijuana for making food, or so I hear.
04:04 <rust_collector> and now I want brownies....
04:07 <rust_collector> arrrgh
11:23 <MrMobodies> Squid, very quick page loads but... certain sites don't work, Google earth when placing the little man on the road for streetview the lines don't and goes to ground view
11:47 <MrMobodies> turned it off and it works and the websites it times out on
12:26 <MrMobodies> Going to find out why the ssd is 1.7gb when it should be 256gb
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16:45 <rust_collector> that does not sound ideal
17:27 <Nothing\> there, i've got half a freezer bag full of pulverized lucky charms
17:34 <Nothing\> sans marshmallows, of course
17:46 <Nothing\> cuz why else would anyone have an old box of lucky charms nobody ,ants to eat
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19:50 <Nothing\> now i just need to figure out how much water to add to it
19:55 <Nothing\> which i have no idea
20:05 <Ampera> the cereal is the only part of lucky charms that's actually alright
20:08 <Ampera> the marshmallows are shit
20:19 <Nothing\> lol i love the marshmallows
20:28 <rust_collector> I do not think it matters too much. add plenty
20:37 <Nothing\> i tried to buy a bag of just marshmallows on amazon once but they wouldn't ship it to me
21:17 <Nothing\> heh i added about a 40/60mix of powdered lucky charms to strawberry milk and its' delicious
21:43 <Nothing\> like strawberry porridge
22:25 <rust_collector> I once ordered some cachew nuts. but they did not ship less than 500kg, so I didn't
23:09 <rust_collector> they are cheap, if you order a 20 foot container full
24:08 <Nothing\> oh man, that was delicious!
24:08 <Halcyon> Afternoon all
24:13 <Halcyon> Happy Australia Day!
24:15 <Nothing\> nuts to this experiment
24:20 <steve30> morning Halcyon
24:40 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
24:44 <Halcyon> :)
24:48 <Ampera> Australia day? Does that mean fireworks?
24:51 <Nothing\> hey Halcyon
24:57 <Halcyon> Probably not today, it's a total fire ban
25:01 <Halcyon> Hey Nothing\
25:15 <Ampera> I have my power mac G5 going
25:18 * T3sl4 hugs the channel
25:19 <Ampera> with OpenBSD
25:23 * Ampera hugs T3sl4
25:24 <Halcyon> Oh nice
25:40 <Halcyon> What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?
25:55 <MrMobodies> I see Pfsense 2.5 is in beta testing
26:01 <MrMobodies> https://snapshots.pfsense.org/amd64/pfSense_master/installer/
26:06 <steve30> Halcyon, I'm making progress with my Mikrotik. Its managed to automatically get an IPv6 prefix :)
26:10 <MrMobodies> I'll give that a go right no
26:16 <Halcyon> MrMobodiesL Yeh it's been in Beta for a while
26:17 <Ampera> Halcyon, everything
26:20 <Halcyon> Been a long time coming
26:36 <Ampera> they are different operating systems with different kernels, userlands, tools, binaries, and design intents
26:55 <Ampera> I have OpenBSD running on my iBook G4, because FreeBSD was proving to be unusable
27:04 <Ampera> but the reverse might be the case on this Power Mac G5...
27:48 <MrMobodies> did they maintain the drivers for the old Acenic Tigon2 I'll find out soon
29:23 <steve30> I think I might go to bed in the near future
30:15 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aentw8i0kx4
35:29 <Ampera> Well OpenBSD doesn't have working drivers for my graphics card, so FreeBSD gets another shot
42:58 <Ampera> FreeBSD didn't detect my disks, so I'll try Linux then
56:34 <DHess_US> How old is the hardware?
56:46 <DHess_US> Oh, Apple. Nevermind.
02:36 <Ampera> lol
02:50 <Ampera> DHess_US, G5, I think it might be a strange issue
03:16 <Ampera> the driver appears to exist for the controller, but it was making an awful racket about it in the kernel messages
03:28 * Halcyon noms on a curry
04:01 <Ampera> Oh Halcyon, I went to the asian supermarket today
04:06 <Ampera> I got a load of delicious ramen
04:14 <Halcyon> Oh nice, what kind did you get?
04:22 <Halcyon> I love those kind of asian shops, so much to choose from
04:24 <Ampera> I bought 4 types of sapporo ichiban ramen
04:31 <Ampera> beef, shrimp, chicken, and original.
04:44 <Ampera> some random arrangements of other ramen I forget
04:56 <Halcyon> Nice
05:02 <Ampera> I also bought rice noodles, thai fish sauce, miso, smoked herring, and century eggs
05:13 <Halcyon> *vom* You can keep the eggs
05:19 <MrMobodies> century eggs?
05:21 <rust_collector> good night
05:27 <Halcyon> Night rust_collector
05:47 <MrMobodies> night rusty
05:51 <Ampera> Century eggs
05:58 <Ampera> eggs they've put in the ground for a hundred years
06:30 <MrMobodies> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=century+eggs&t=h_&iax=images&ia=images
06:37 <MrMobodies> It is nice when I learn something new every day
06:44 <Halcyon> MrMobodies: Have you not seen Ashen's video on it?
06:56 <MrMobodies> and they're decorative on the outside
07:02 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImZ5tums4zs&t=475s
07:21 <Halcyon> Sorry, I don't know why the time tag got added
07:27 <Halcyon> The eggs are at the start
09:10 <MrMobodies> the only restaurant I have around here is "Lucky House
09:30 <MrMobodies> It's Lucky because it is hardly ever opened
10:13 <MrMobodies> Time to test Pfsense 2.5
10:21 <Halcyon> Nice :)
11:17 * steve30 passes Halcyon a paw in the hope of getting a hip massage
11:36 * Halcyon massages Steve
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15:16 <Halcyon> Haha I love Jaboody Dubs
20:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Lamington on Australia day at the beach. I kinda look like Strop, just need the life saving cap. https://t.co/hAlAJG0lTO
01:05 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Looking a bit ominous https://t.co/K4PBZ2GzQ3
19:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Drainage ditch for the castle under construction https://t.co/4BXttkAx3u
36:09 <steve30> I can't sleep
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41:11 <MrMobodies> just installed it all works but I had a problem
41:36 <MrMobodies> change IP address and it hangs when entering the default password
42:03 <MrMobodies> but it doesn't do it when changing it from the webserver
42:37 <MrMobodies> when changing ip from console, it reverts to http and can't login.
47:11 <MrMobodies> The performance seems pretty much the same before.
47:49 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/BrPyFW1.jpg
48:09 <MrMobodies> but memory usage has increased by about 4% or so
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49:50 <MrMobodies> I remembered reading an article some years ago about an announcement that Netgate are going to stop supporting for non AES cpu's but I see it hasn't happened yet
50:57 <MrMobodies> The Alteons seem to take quicker to load up, 6 seconds instead of 12 per card.
52:05 <MrMobodies> the web interface seems quicker too and it is not in a fixed position but the spacing is a bit larger though.
52:46 <Ampera> I'm on my iBook now, planning to do some writing
53:06 <Ampera> I always find that using simple machines, ones where I can't as easily goof off, makes writing things far easier
53:13 <Ampera> this would also be an excellent computer to program on
53:57 <MrMobodies> simple machines?
55:23 <MrMobodies> tomorrow I'll test all 12 ports
56:20 <Ampera> MrMobodies, machines that aren't as capable or as fast, but are still perfectly capable of doing a lot of tasks
57:33 <MrMobodies> oh computers with different processors in them
58:15 <MrMobodies> like RISC ones
58:21 <Ampera> MrMobodies, well just because it's x86 doesn't mean it's not fast nor capable
58:35 <Ampera> for the same era, this iBook G4 is about as capable today.
58:58 <MrMobodies> I would never dispute about the performance
59:48 <Ampera> I like this iBook, though, it's a really adorible little laptop
00:06 <Ampera> and I just love using weird computers, stuff that you wouldn't normally see every day
00:18 <MrMobodies> aaah a laptop
00:32 <MrMobodies> I still got an small I386 motherboard
00:50 <MrMobodies> AT type but it is soldered on no FPU unit or socket
01:00 <MrMobodies> SOme 486 boards lying about
01:22 <MrMobodies> an a Toshiba portege and a old white one
02:13 <MrMobodies> I would never critise hardware based on performance
02:27 <Ampera> I'm trying to think if I could have any laptop in the world, not for power, but for interest, what it would be
02:34 <Ampera> it might be one of the IBM POWER Thinkpads
03:21 <MrMobodies> I like the old Thinkpads and the touchpointers
03:31 <Halcyon> Yeh the old Thinkpads are cool
03:35 <MrMobodies> Can't get use to a touchpad
03:42 <Halcyon> I have a Lenovo one, it's nice, but not quite the same
04:10 <MrMobodies> There is one on this W700 which seems okay
12:08 <MrMobodies> There use to be an ARM cpu the 1990's I can't remember the name I forgot. It was some ARM cpu and it had 9 chipsets on the board to translate the instructions and it never made it to market.
12:59 <MrMobodies> I remember, Nexgen
15:28 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NexGen
15:56 <MrMobodies> I looked on Ebay but I never saw them selling
17:41 <MrMobodies> if there is any criticism ever it would be badly built stuff like the SiS 530 that was 20 years ago and they seem to be terribly unstable.
18:25 <Halcyon> SiS was known as Seriously is Slow
18:58 <MrMobodies> I heard it had memory problems
19:06 <MrMobodies> I called it SiSsy
20:23 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
20:24 <Ampera> how do
20:31 <Halcyon> Not too bad.
20:43 <Halcyon> Been putting off mowing the lawn
21:51 <MrMobodies> I got one of those electric ones wit I think 7a battery
22:38 <MrMobodies> I got it on offer as it was end of line
25:09 <MrMobodies> https://egopowerplus.co.uk/products/mowers/lm2122e-sp-52cm-self-propelled-mower
25:16 <MrMobodies> not very good in the wet though
45:40 <Halcyon> Yeh the grass is quite moist from the rain
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04:35 <MrMobodies> I hope it doesn't happen in Britain
09:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: @eevblog @LBRYio oops, I meant dtube
09:53 <hsn993> hola
10:22 <MrMobodies> i better go to bed
10:48 <MrMobodies> goodnight
27:14 <hsn993> لى
27:15 <hsn993> gn
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26:29 <Halcyon> I need a hug
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36:11 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
37:13 <Halcyon> :D
37:43 <T3sl4> hows your day?
39:25 <Halcyon> Meh
39:26 <Halcyon> Lazy
40:51 <T3sl4> https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/how-to-get-star-fox-64-ships-into-ocarina-of-time-no-hacking-required/
41:00 <T3sl4> nice, they're covering it
42:02 <Halcyon> What's the TL,DR of it?
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01:36 <T3sl4> Halcyon: pick up an object in the environment, and carry it into a location where it unloads, and other objects load in under where it used to be. hijinx ensues
02:34 <T3sl4> the use-after-free or stale reference condition keeps writing e.g. position and rotation values into memory, but with careful alignment, this can be manipulated to write over, say, another object's draw function. pwnage is you
04:21 <T3sl4> the main drawback is, because there are precious few buffers in the game that can be manipulated (most notably, an NPC that records a song of (nearly?) unlimited length, and the filenames of short length), you can't do much for shellcode on the stack or heap, like you can with typical vulns on PCs
11:02 * hsn93 heaps T3sl4
11:15 * T3sl4 rops hsn93's stack
12:10 * hsn93 stack's clashed with T3sl4's heap
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