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00:55 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, I find it more disturbing that you read the daily fail
05:52 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, did you see my baby knife?
06:39 <rust_collector> yez
07:05 <rust_collector> don't wash your own clothes....
08:28 <Ysjoelfir> you mean because the knife shrinks when being washed to hot? :P
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12:04 <rust_collector> mmhmmmmm
12:37 <rust_collector> your comment is like if I said: look at my mini doll socks!
12:39 <Ysjoelfir> you are right. don't want that thing to shrink even more!
16:12 <rust_collector> I thought my knife was small, lol
17:33 <Ysjoelfir> :P
19:42 <Ysjoelfir> I'm playing Crusader Kings III. Tried several different people already, never realy succeeded. I even tried the predecessors of K , of mr. Lemon and also of myself. Never succeeded. Now I play once again the nordmen and finally it works again xD
20:17 <rust_collector> well, you know....
21:24 <rust_collector> we never did well on crusades, but we did get around and bought lots of trinklets at an inflated price from the locals.
21:25 <Ysjoelfir> Playing as Jarl Sigurdr Snakeeye from Sjælland this time and just conquered the Telmark, Vestfold and Agder (because the swedes/Uppland are to strong and also supposedly Jarl Sigurdrs brother..)
21:32 <Ysjoelfir> lol
22:51 <rust_collector> conquered... hah. no, you did not. people there will agree, and go have their coffee, then ignore you. if they see you again, you will be shot
25:08 <rust_collector> yeah yeah, whatever
25:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P yes, probably.
27:30 <Ysjoelfir> actually it was like... Chief Dag of Hei(strange old nordish d thing I can't type)mörk wasn't happy that I demanded the barony of Dal. So he decided to declare war. I went to his capitol with some people, asking him if he is serious, and he decided that he wanted to be a subordinate of me instead :D
32:06 <rust_collector> you should probably kill him pretty quick
33:04 <rust_collector> oh, it is pizza day. I think I will make some deig now
38:24 <Ysjoelfir> Chief Dag? I already did, he was an ass.
38:30 <Ysjoelfir> also, enjoy your Grandiosa!
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40:49 <rust_collector> no, I am making my own. no grandis today
46:26 <Ysjoelfir> even better!
46:29 <Ysjoelfir> with corn I hope?
47:14 <rust_collector> we will see. maybe I will only make half of it, and let someone else add stuff to it
47:27 <Ysjoelfir> thats also a method
50:25 <rust_collector> I am halfway looking for an analog meter today. I found some, but they seem to be worth something. there is one sanwa little thing, I guess it would work fine
55:49 <Ysjoelfir> what would you want it for?
56:25 <rust_collector> uhm, nothing. I just think they are neat.
58:29 <Ysjoelfir> good to know. I still need to send a package with date cookies and palm sperm to you
58:37 <Ysjoelfir> and I am throwing out stuff from the lab once again
58:46 <Ysjoelfir> also found the scope Nevoness wanted
58:47 <rust_collector> stop throwing out stuff
59:14 <rust_collector> ok, what scope?
59:47 <Ysjoelfir> well, not liuterally throwing. just... sorting through old stuff and deciding if i want to keep it
59:54 <rust_collector> ok
00:02 <Ysjoelfir> a hameg... 1507-3 or something like that
00:59 <rust_collector> hmm, a bastard scope. that is neat
01:47 <Ysjoelfir> it is indeed a very nice scope. Would keep it for myself, but I don't have the space and I have tons of analog ones and one digital. should be enough. it needs some fixing though
02:24 <rust_collector> right
05:00 <rust_collector> I think I will stay with my ancient basic spec scope for some time. it is not like I really use it for anything useful. But yeah, now the 1st channel seems to work well also, after last weeks little fix
06:02 <rust_collector> I think someone tried too hard to clean the switches, and bent the "paw" contact a bit.
06:17 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) I enjoy fixing stuff
06:59 <rust_collector> yeah. it is fun when something starts working
07:38 <rust_collector> it is not so fun, when your fixing project turns into grab the best parts, and bin the rest
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09:10 <rust_collector> I still do not really get how to use the single shot mode on the analog scope... I guess I could video the screen
09:14 <Ysjoelfir> indeed.
09:30 <Ysjoelfir> heh :P what scope is it?
10:07 <rust_collector> uhm, ultra-plain...nospec 666
10:14 <rust_collector> let me c
10:33 <rust_collector> kikisui 5520
11:17 <rust_collector> I mean, it does its thing, but what is the point, as it can not store anything, so I just see the thing on the screen go BLIP! and that is it
11:33 <Ysjoelfir> hah :D That looks an awful lot like the old GDR scopes :D
11:48 <rust_collector> yes, it is probably using the same idea
12:25 <Ysjoelfir> jep, thats usually used to be combined with a high sensitivity photo thing in front of it
12:37 <rust_collector> ok.
13:08 <rust_collector> well, I can use the other scope thing for that stuff
13:35 <Ysjoelfir> I think some tek scopes have that feature as well.
13:43 <Ysjoelfir> the analog non storage single shot I mean
13:55 <rust_collector> they probably do
14:16 <rust_collector> I mean, I can read the manual.... but
15:47 <Ysjoelfir> manu...wat? Never heard of that
15:51 <rust_collector> I think I will put the probes in the bag, and buy some new ones.
16:03 <MrMobodies> rust_collector, about the Daily Fail, yes it ruined my day a bit as well with that article.
17:37 <MrMobodies> I was searching news on google and saw someone with strange looking teeth and that happened to be the one I clicked.
17:43 <rust_collector> yeah, the guy who had it was very very extremely organized. everything was very very clean, I think he probably vaccumed his lawn every sunday. it came with the manual and fuses and things neatly put in a bag
17:47 <MrMobodies> and that was no accidnt
18:06 <MrMobodies> extremely organized is something I lack
18:22 <rust_collector> they are very good at making people click. it is their thing
19:07 <MrMobodies> Joke: I don't know who the victim is; her teeth or the reader.
19:33 <rust_collector> I am sure she will be ok. don't worry too much abou tit
19:50 <MrMobodies> vacuums his lawn every sunday?
20:10 <MrMobodies> not someting to suck the leaves in?
20:25 <MrMobodies> like similar to a leaf blower?
20:29 <rust_collector> everything there was just so incredibly neat
20:51 <rust_collector> I would not doubt it if he did use a vacuum cleaner
22:21 <rust_collector> well, he could probably afford to have people do that for him
22:45 <MrMobodies> Sometimes I can be really neat and organised but it don't last long.
23:06 <rust_collector> I can only do that, until I start tidying up things
23:08 <MrMobodies> in this workshop it can happen very quickly and everything gets thrown in abox
23:27 <MrMobodies> then I get to tired to clean up
25:32 <MrMobodies> I took my DL380 upstairs so I can put the G6 in it's place on the top rack
25:42 <MrMobodies> then I can run experiments as I please
25:49 <rust_collector> yeah, never put things in boxes, if you do, the things will be lost forever. just put stuff in piles
26:00 <MrMobodies> oh yes, I end up buying more
26:09 <MrMobodies> and then I find them later on
26:55 <MrMobodies> I lost 12 12v 5a power supplies, ordered another 12 of the same, and found them some months later a couple of years ago
26:59 <rust_collector> Usually, when I think I am going to tidy up in the garage, I end up finding random things I don't remember having. it is sort of fune too
27:13 <rust_collector> fun
27:30 <MrMobodies> yes, fun, forgetting just to discover again
27:39 <rust_collector> what do you use 12 power supplies for?
27:42 <MrMobodies> it's all a mystery at first
27:57 <MrMobodies> I just use them to replace the crappy ones I get with the routers
28:06 <rust_collector> oh ok
28:16 <MrMobodies> you know the crappy Netgear ones and the likes
28:36 <rust_collector> sure. well, I don't know how bad they are, but
28:42 <MrMobodies> and good for cctv, portable hard drives
29:16 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.com/itm/12x-Li-Shin-Power-Supply-LSE9901B1260-12V-5A-Adapter-300-2004-01/352342703031
29:31 <MrMobodies> sometimes you can get them used in a job lots and they can be opened up too
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29:52 <MrMobodies> LSE9901B1260 or LSE9901B1250 is what I buy
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30:19 <rust_collector> ok. do the netgear ones fail, or? what happens to them?
30:38 <MrMobodies> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-0QAAOSwuGhboiui/s-l640.jpg
30:59 <MrMobodies> yes, I had them intermittent cut out or the switch doing strange things and that getting very hot
31:31 <MrMobodies> they bunded 2a ones many years ago with Virgin Media Docsis 3 modems
31:44 <MrMobodies> and I use to lend customers one of those Li shin
31:57 <rust_collector> I think I have a netgear switch. I have not even thought about the power supply on it
32:00 <MrMobodies> I'll see if I got one and I'll tear it apart and post it
32:11 <MrMobodies> I think when they are built in they are fine
32:28 <MrMobodies> I have seen them using Delta
32:48 <rust_collector> I also have a big old hp switch, that I never used, because... why woudl I?
32:50 <MrMobodies> and those plastic things are very light, very few components in them and
33:14 <MrMobodies> Well when I want to do something, I turn to my old unused things
33:19 <rust_collector> few components can not be bad, as long as it is enough
33:35 <MrMobodies> oh yes, hoarders have the advantage there
34:00 <MrMobodies> I saw Daves Jones unhappy that he had nowhere to put that laserjet
34:05 <MrMobodies> in his latest video
34:09 <rust_collector> yes
34:23 <MrMobodies> "no where to put it..." like a broken record
34:39 <rust_collector> but that thing was not exactly small either
35:27 <MrMobodies> I know he didn;t look bothered about downsizing, I think maybe the flooding ruined it for him.
36:14 <rust_collector> maybe, I don't know. maybe he likes moving
36:35 <MrMobodies> joke: The dumpster will always look after him.
36:51 <MrMobodies> when he is forced to give something away.
37:58 <rust_collector> it is incredible how much stuff companies throw away
38:10 <Ysjoelfir> it is indeed
38:27 <Ysjoelfir> I was going through all the stuff I want to sell which I basically got out of the companies trash
38:36 <Ysjoelfir> Half of my storage is now "for sale" items
39:15 <rust_collector> I was looking in the electronics dumpster at work yesterday, and there was 6-7 screens there, there is nothing wrong with them, they just get replaced, because.... reasons
39:44 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, you have to make a not complete list of stuff
40:05 <Ysjoelfir> I am working on that
40:16 <Ysjoelfir> but it will take a lot more days of homeoffice to finish
40:24 <rust_collector> I have 3 or 4 screens I snagged from work. all working great
40:45 <rust_collector> heh. home office seems very efficient some times
41:12 <MrMobodies> that server I got the ML350 G8 with stuff in there
41:20 <MrMobodies> I amanaged to get to 108w
41:36 <MrMobodies> so I can afford to run that all the time
41:56 <MrMobodies> instead of 290 - 360w from the G5 DL380
41:56 <rust_collector> the laser printer was from work, most of the keyboards I have had has been from there. I don't even bother clean-cleaning mine, I just go grab a new one
42:14 <MrMobodies> I know they can be filfthy
42:14 <rust_collector> that is a good difference
42:27 <MrMobodies> when I find a good keyboard that I like with all the print
42:44 <Ysjoelfir> I once had a G5 DL380. Probably still have the mainboard of that beast. slow as hell nowadays but eats power en mass
42:54 <MrMobodies> I will clean them out, with alcohol, electric air duster and a Ultra sonic brush
43:15 <MrMobodies> Mine had a 3.06ghz 8 cpus
43:22 <MrMobodies> very noisey
43:41 <MrMobodies> power supplies heat up at the back so I had to fit some fans and a shroud
43:57 <rust_collector> I just happen to like the standard hp keyboards. pretty indestructible. when it gets filled with grinding dust or whatever, I could probably clean them, but when we have stacks of them at work...
44:33 <MrMobodies> wonderful, you can just grabs a new one.
44:47 <MrMobodies> joke: and give it to someone else to clean.
45:02 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, do you have any random old school component assorted 100pieces NOS. grab bags?
45:46 <rust_collector> most that I find are not even taken out of the bag. they just replace their stash now and then.
47:27 <Ysjoelfir> hm? you mean like a bag of eg 100 pcs 100R resistors?
48:48 <rust_collector> heh. well. maybe. or something... or more like: handful of random components from leftovers
50:20 <Ysjoelfir> I threw out most random stuff like a year ago :/ but since I am again going through a lot of stuff again I will probably find more
51:36 <rust_collector> put them in a box, we can figure something out
53:33 <Ysjoelfir> will do
56:47 <rust_collector> psssshhhh..... ok, I have to go do something. it is not raining today, which is unusual.
57:07 <rust_collector> I don't want to..... but... I want to
57:27 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy doing what you do want to not to do
58:12 <rust_collector> I think I will do the handbrake cables... that is a thing. and it sort of needs to be done, if I want to pass the test this year
00:21 <rust_collector> that is all. handbrake is not working, and the headlights. maybe I will put the winter tires on, as I had a thick coat of ice on the windows the other evenight
00:50 <Ysjoelfir> after that you can come over and work on the volvo so that it stops rattling :D
01:04 <rust_collector> disconnect the battery?
01:11 <Ysjoelfir> great idea!
01:29 <rust_collector> well, it won't make much noise...
04:07 <rust_collector> I think I will take the china special "phone repair" power supply apart this evening. take pics of the pcb, and see if I can figure out what it does how
05:06 <rust_collector> ok, have fun, enjoy the silence
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03:45 <rust_collector> mmmm coffeeeee
04:57 <T3sl4> mmmmm teeeeaaaa
06:07 <T3sl4> heh handbrake... since we don't have annual testing over here, or nearly as much anyway...
06:35 <T3sl4> mine rusted away years ago, the brake parts literally fell out of the hub. the cable dead-ends to nothing :P
07:07 <T3sl4> good thing it's manual and the terrain is flat around here, not worried about it sliding around
07:18 <coppice> without annual testing, the handbrake will never be used as all. The only point of paying for the handbrake is to pass the test
07:33 <rust_collector> I have not used them in the 1.5 years since they quit working
08:17 <rust_collector> well, some times, it would be handy, as this is a manual, and some times, I want to leave it running
13:31 <rust_collector> if I had an old automatic, I would not use the handbrake at all, they have a nice parking pawl. which probably is the reason why the handbrake never works on automatic cars, lol
16:44 <T3sl4> handbrake isn't all that strong anyway, nor is the parking pawl; they're probably about equally as good
16:50 <rust_collector> hmm, it looks like my old fujitsu-siemens laptop charger finally gave up.
16:53 <T3sl4> does mean you get the best with both on, at least
17:24 <rust_collector> well, the parking pawl os plenty strong enough to keep the car where you parked it
17:42 <rust_collector> unless it is very slippery, and you have an open diff
18:24 <T3sl4> course, if it's very slippery there's nothing stopping you from going, even if you wedge a tire into the curb
19:30 <rust_collector> sure, but that is getting a bit extreme. I just mean that is you only use the park in the transmission, you only need one tire slipping
20:01 <rust_collector> at least the brake works on both wheels
22:18 <rust_collector> oh well. not that it matters. I still need this crap to pass the test one last time
23:00 <rust_collector> I sort of want it to last 2 more years, so it is 20 when it gets scrapped.
26:41 <rust_collector> either that, or sell it while it is still almost worth anything at all, and buy a little van
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15:22 <Ysjoelfir> onion 2?
45:54 <rust_collector> we will see
46:35 <rust_collector> i have a feeling onion 2 deserves to be ran over by a train... so maybe something else
46:59 <Ysjoelfir> Onion 3?
48:16 <rust_collector> as much as I hate vw, I might take a caddy, that is too cheap... something has to be wrong. it would be lemon 3
49:48 <rust_collector> but 5000 for a 2015-ish caddy that has ran 150k is hard to look at
50:21 <rust_collector> but also hard to not look at
51:00 <rust_collector> Well, I have seen it, and it looks ok from over here, but I did not know it was for sale, so I did not look very close
51:21 <Ysjoelfir> you should look again
51:36 <rust_collector> yeah. I think I might have to
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52:07 <rust_collector> that will do for today, I think
55:54 <Ysjoelfir> So you have brakes now?
56:08 <rust_collector> brakes?
56:34 <rust_collector> I have waffle-biscuits, and coffee
57:58 <Ysjoelfir> Your car uses strange things for braking!
58:17 <rust_collector> well, I do have half of a handbrake on one side. because I did not feel like getting under the thing to route the cable thru all the things, and hook up the front end of it
59:50 <rust_collector> I did have a look at the phord, and that thing needs everything on the left rear replaced, so I guess I will do both sides, just because it makes sense. otoh, the car is full of holes, so I doubt it will get thru the test anyway
00:49 <Ysjoelfir> meh, who needs holes
01:07 <rust_collector> all the perverts
06:14 <rust_collector> time to beat the pizza flat...
08:53 <rust_collector> nope, I was wrong. it does not want to be flat
12:47 <Ysjoelfir> so you now have cubezza today?
13:00 <rust_collector> I have no idea?
13:24 <rust_collector> I guess I have bread, if I bake this blob
19:20 <rust_collector> so, even internet does not know what that is...
20:16 <Ysjoelfir> cubezza?
20:29 <rust_collector> yesz
20:36 <Ysjoelfir> A combination of a cube and a pizza.
20:41 <Ysjoelfir> I just made that up
28:40 <Ysjoelfir> and we just got a delivery of our groceries. I found a glass of "swedish milk" in their catalog. wanted to try that. oh boy :X
28:51 <rust_collector> whaaat?
29:25 <Ysjoelfir> damn thats sour
30:13 <rust_collector> is it that fermented stuff?
30:17 <Ysjoelfir> but... its strangely addictive after the first one, two mouths full
31:04 <Ysjoelfir> not fermented I think, but it has some bacteria in it that turn the lactose into milk acid
31:12 <Ysjoelfir> which makes it pretty thick and creamy
31:24 <rust_collector> halfway like yoghurt.
31:31 <Ysjoelfir> yes
31:46 <rust_collector> ok. Swedish milk....
32:05 <rust_collector> we call it surmelk
34:35 <steve30> o/
35:34 <rust_collector> morning, mr steve 3x
38:05 <Ysjoelfir> we have "Sauermilch", whcih would be the literal translation of surmelk I think, but that tastes indeed a bit different (more sour)
38:15 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. steve
39:27 <rust_collector> there are several versions of it. some are ok, some...are a bit much for me
41:41 <rust_collector> the more sweet kind is pretty nice with cereals and fruit stuff
45:26 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have a thick milk with the taste of normal milk. that would be awesome with cereals
46:06 <steve30> We are having a 1 month "lockdown" from next Thursday
46:25 <Ysjoelfir> same
46:49 <rust_collector> we are told to wear face masks if we feel like it
55:42 <steve30> in better news, someone posted in the kitty thread :)
55:43 <steve30> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/post-a-picture-of-a-cat!/?action=dlattach;attach=1100630;image
56:10 * T3sl4 coughs USA germs at steve30
57:12 * Ysjoelfir instantly dies
00:16 <TheDude> heya
00:33 <rust_collector> https://www.airport-parking.org.uk/
00:40 <rust_collector> hey hey hey
00:49 <TheDude> wassa wassa wassa
00:53 <TheDude> BIIIITCONEEEECT
03:48 <TheDude> how are you all doing?
04:25 <rust_collector> eeh. chould be worse
04:46 <rust_collector> except my typing, that can not get much worse
05:18 <rust_collector> it is pizza day, so it can not be that bad
05:31 <TheDude> I was feeling extra lazy today
05:36 <TheDude> so I ordered chinese delivery
05:58 <TheDude> ... I ordered too much stuff but still ended up eating all of it
06:10 <rust_collector> we have not had pizza since....yesterday.
06:14 <Ysjoelfir> xD
06:46 <rust_collector> too much chinese does not sound too bad
06:59 <TheDude> I'm feeling rather bloated atm
07:07 <TheDude> but it could be worse, I suppose
07:45 <rust_collector> what kind of chinese was it?
08:59 <rust_collector> 34 spring rolls, 3 pounds of lice, and...
09:26 <TheDude> chicken with mushrooms and bamboo
09:27 <TheDude> rice
09:29 <TheDude> spring rolls
09:31 <TheDude> dumplings
10:03 * T3sl4 schmoozes up to TheDude
10:15 <rust_collector> mostly an ok lunch then
20:12 <Ysjoelfir> heh. I like that one. https://www.amazon.de/Lustiges-Bier-Alkohol-Trinken-T-Shirt/dp/B07RHK5CFC/
20:36 <Ysjoelfir> translation: Will I be drinking a beer today?
20:39 <Ysjoelfir> yes
20:44 <Ysjoelfir> also yes (but in red)
20:54 <rust_collector> hah
26:30 <rust_collector> hmm, I found one more transformer today. I don't know what I will do with all this crap, lol
26:45 <TheDude> throw it away?
26:56 <rust_collector> nah, it is very pretty
27:13 <TheDude> not having shittons of storage space is sometimes beneficial for this sort of stuff
27:29 <rust_collector> I should throw away some of the smaller ones, I guess
27:40 <TheDude> you throw things that you're not going to need anymore instead of storing them
28:12 <rust_collector> I know that idea.
31:39 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.amazon.de/vier-modernen-apokalyptischen-Reiter-T-Shirt/dp/B07GM5WZLM/
32:13 <rust_collector> I do not know what I will need... it is a bit weird. a few weeks ago, I made a handle for the neighbors outdoors water tap, out of an old cassette player flywheel. Otoh, if I did not have an old cassette player flywheel, I guess he could just buy a new handle thing
32:45 <Ysjoelfir> using the stuff intended to be used for the intended use? naaaah. to easy
33:36 <rust_collector> right
33:59 <rust_collector> if we did that all the time, how would we have flame throwers?
34:57 <Ysjoelfir> exactly.
36:24 <rust_collector> not to mention the medical tool... the chainsaw
37:11 <rust_collector> one day the doctor said: I don't want to cut pelvic bones any more, I am going to cut down the rainforest
37:17 <Ysjoelfir> I thought that was made for cooking?
37:40 <rust_collector> no, or... well, I don't know about the doctors diet
42:30 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog convert 2760 ft to m
42:31 <EEVBlog> The result is: 841.248 m
43:28 <rust_collector> did you finally figure out how long a packet of instant noodles is, if you put it all in a line?
44:09 <Ysjoelfir> no, mrs spouse was wondering how bit a 2760ft^2 house might be :P
45:18 <rust_collector> so you converted it to non squared meters?
46:04 * steve30 hugs T3sl4 
46:16 <T3sl4> *hugs*
47:01 <rust_collector> I wonder how many m³ there is from here to your place
49:37 <Ysjoelfir> well.. Ampera didn't implement squared conversions yet :D
50:01 <rust_collector> uhm... divide by 10 3/4 or so
52:56 <electrohead> o/
54:23 <rust_collector> hoi
54:41 <electrohead> howdy
59:15 <rust_collector> mr head probably would not mind a few spring rolls today
00:56 <Ysjoelfir> nobody would!
00:59 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi mr. head
01:49 <rust_collector> I think you are correct. i would not either
11:25 <coppice> but its not spring
12:28 <rust_collector> that is the reason why I want it
12:52 <coppice> wait a few months, or move to Australia
13:01 <rust_collector> uh, no thanks
15:11 * rust_collector is happily non-australian
39:10 <electrohead> spring rolls?
39:23 <rust_collector> yep
39:29 <Ysjoelfir> Autumnrolls
44:57 <rust_collector> so... what is the opposite of that?
45:22 <Ysjoelfir> Springflats
48:14 <electrohead> lol
54:55 <MrMobodies> Hello
55:24 <rust_collector> EEVBlag Hello, MrMobodies
55:24 <EEVBlog> Hello there, rust_collector!
55:38 <MrMobodies> I was given a Sony Xpra H3113
55:58 <MrMobodies> I feel like smashing it to bits. Not the phone it is the operating system.
56:16 <MrMobodies> I want to turn off the Microsoft SwiftKey, no way to remove it
56:26 <MrMobodies> You see I can spell and I know what I am going to say
56:28 <rust_collector> uuh. weird
56:40 <rust_collector> my sony did not have to use that
56:43 <MrMobodies> it does not allow you to turn off word suggestions
56:55 <MrMobodies> This is Android 9
57:15 <MrMobodies> I turned off a load of other annoying crap
57:29 <rust_collector> well, you can install arch on those
57:41 <MrMobodies> and also, when I search for something (not in android) it comes up in and covers over the contents
57:50 <MrMobodies> if I can put my own OS on it
57:58 <MrMobodies> with hardware support that would be nice
58:03 <MrMobodies> I don't feel the phone belongs to me
58:17 <MrMobodies> I feel it belongs to Google and Sony
58:28 <rust_collector> then you understood that part
59:01 <MrMobodies> joke: their phone trying to dictate how I should use it and assume that I am going to be happy
59:22 <rust_collector> is that funny? it is how it is
59:32 <MrMobodies> I love my Samsung J5
59:36 <MrMobodies> That belongs to me,
59:37 <damian> bam bam bam!
59:44 <MrMobodies> I had my way with i
59:54 <MrMobodies> no suggestions, no animations
00:16 <MrMobodies> no "I am smarter than you and this is what you are going to do next... etc" bullshit
00:52 <MrMobodies> I think I am going to risk patching the bootloader looking for an alternative os for this phone
01:07 <rust_collector> I gave up on phones in general. they are what they are
01:54 <MrMobodies> good thing is, it was given to me
02:02 <MrMobodies> so I can go and wreck it if I want
02:18 <MrMobodies> I met someone at the pub
02:37 <MrMobodies> using one of those ancient lcd phones black and white
02:54 <MrMobodies> he told me the new the phones "P*ss him off"
03:06 <MrMobodies> the ones with the small screens
03:14 <MrMobodies> all happy with it
03:30 <rust_collector> they do the phone part very well
03:56 <MrMobodies> maybe i should should be thankful I got this Samsing J5 working the way I want and stick to it.
04:23 <MrMobodies> Samba Filesahing tool, I can pull pictures over the network
04:42 <MrMobodies> I wouldn't want pictures of ebay parcels going to google images
05:03 <MrMobodies> Memo, notepad, and voice recorder (that works when making calls)
05:43 <MrMobodies> termux, gallery, open camera (no silly dimming on the edges of the photo previews)
06:06 <MrMobodies> and an old version of chrome that doesn't make me loose my temper.
06:15 <MrMobodies> which still works
06:46 <rust_collector> the only thing I installed on my new phone was termux with tmux, and irssi.
07:06 <MrMobodies> Joke: sometimes when people give me things like this "they can be more trouble than what it is worth"
07:15 <rust_collector> sure.
07:30 <MrMobodies> and I am fogetting something you said a month ago
08:08 <MrMobodies> "people are paid/employed to do this crap on webpages" but in this case on a phone
08:14 <rust_collector> "but don't listen to me, I am a truck driver?"
08:22 <rust_collector> oh, yes
09:28 <MrMobodies> "Android the most flexible customizable os out there"... for the developers.
09:39 <rust_collector> right
16:14 <MrMobodies> another good phone I was happy with is the Blackberry
16:44 <MrMobodies> ten years ago and used it without a hitch, many things intuitive but not invasive or spammy.
18:12 <MrMobodies> There is suppose to be a storm heading to England now but it doesn't seem to have started yet.
18:31 <MrMobodies> and there is going another national locking down sometime this week
18:36 <MrMobodies> for a month
18:46 <rust_collector> my best phone was probably the alcatel some model. it could do text messages also. and you could run it off 3 aa cells
23:09 <MrMobodies> lovelly.
23:25 <MrMobodies> another thing about this H3113
24:11 <MrMobodies> to use the camera "the app requires location services" or it refuses to work"
24:30 <MrMobodies> I say "Fk you sony!"
24:46 <MrMobodies> I click not and I get message it is required.
25:33 <MrMobodies> Joke: so definately belongs to Sony.
25:59 <MrMobodies> OpenCamera should take care of that one though.
28:38 <MrMobodies> this phone? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcatel_One_Touch_300
29:15 <rust_collector> nope. it was a bit smaller, I think
30:56 <rust_collector> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Alcatel04.jpg/1280px-Alcatel04.jpg?1604187042030
31:16 <rust_collector> nicely brick shaped
31:27 <rust_collector> and a pull out antenna
34:34 <Halycon> Morning all
34:47 <rust_collector> heY!
35:42 <MrMobodies> hi
35:47 <rust_collector> does Halycon feel like he could eat some spring rolls today?
36:18 <MrMobodies> joke: with springs in there.
36:19 <Halycon> Oh yes, I love Spring rolls
37:05 <MrMobodies> I like the party ones with the duck paste in there
37:43 <rust_collector> duck paste... that sounds great, lol
40:03 <MrMobodies> rust collector was it you who owned an Areca controller?
40:19 <MrMobodies> with some western digital drives, one which failed earlier this year.
40:26 <rust_collector> uh, no.
42:20 <rust_collector> I thought (again) about making a little server-nas sort of thing, but then I figured that I would probably not start to have any more data I should store
43:36 <rust_collector> it is like a 3d printer. i keep looking at them, then realising that I really so not have anything to use one for
44:18 <MrMobodies> I am going to use it for disc imaging and cloning
44:26 <MrMobodies> I am looking forward to that to see how quick it is
45:03 <MrMobodies> what i like about Areca, with the 2012 firmware, it looks like they added all these features on there for Sas
45:15 <MrMobodies> but it still says "Add IDE drive"
45:23 <MrMobodies> like they kept the UI the same as 20 years ago
45:28 <MrMobodies> and the web interface
45:52 <MrMobodies> that'[s the way I like it
46:16 <Halycon> What to have for dinner tonight?
46:51 <rust_collector> nothing asian or asian inspired
46:56 <Halycon> Why not?
47:16 <rust_collector> it is not an asian food day
47:25 <Halycon> Hrmm
47:34 <rust_collector> I think you have to make something from the balkans today. sorry
47:59 <Halycon> Does Japanese count?
48:07 <rust_collector> eeeh
48:33 <rust_collector> I know the japanese seems like a different race, but I think they are asian
48:49 <Halycon> Heh
49:14 <MrMobodies> I once brought a USB 3 hub from Japan some years ago, it was an Anker and no longer sold
49:15 <rust_collector> I think you need stuffed paprikas
49:27 <MrMobodies> and the seller wanted to be my friend and come over
49:37 <MrMobodies> very strange
49:59 <MrMobodies> it was a letter that came with the hub
50:12 <MrMobodies> very nice though
50:31 <Halycon> The Japanese are very polite people
51:58 <MrMobodies> joke: too polite for the likes of England especially in the South Easy
52:11 <MrMobodies> *east
52:14 <Halycon> Heh
52:56 <MrMobodies> the last time I look at someone in Romford, they said "Wwhat you looking at!" came over and threw stones at me.
53:05 <MrMobodies> that was over 20 years ago
53:30 <MrMobodies> but maybe in the village areas they seem to be a lot more nicer and polite
53:31 <rust_collector> https://www.beefitswhatsfordinner.com/recipes/recipe/55603/classic-beef-stuffed-peppers
54:57 <rust_collector> sure they are, until you are disappeared
55:01 <Halycon> That actually looks pretty good
55:05 <MrMobodies> that looks nice
55:06 <rust_collector> it is
55:26 <rust_collector> or you can fill them with whatever and rice, and boil them
55:30 <rust_collector> or... something
55:37 <rust_collector> add cheese if you want
55:55 <MrMobodies> https://embed.widencdn.net/img/beef/d9parmoebj/960x720px/classic-beef-stuffed-peppers-horizontal.tif
56:09 <MrMobodies> I couldn't see it at first but saw it in the top bit
56:21 <Halycon> I really feel like pad thai
56:28 <Halycon> Something noodley
56:38 <rust_collector> that is for tomorrow. sorry
56:59 <rust_collector> i don't make the rules...
58:28 <Halycon> You are making things difficult for me
59:12 <rust_collector> oh really? Well, I do not have any issues breaking rules. being a career criminal and all that
59:23 <Halycon> Heh
02:59 <Halycon> I haven't had Coq au vin for a while, maybe that
03:17 <rust_collector> is tortellini noodle-y enough?
03:27 <rust_collector> yeah, that would be ok
03:45 <Halycon> Tortellini would work
06:29 <rust_collector> and it is easy...and quick...
07:31 <Halycon> Anyway, better go, have a haircut soon
08:11 <rust_collector> run!
08:51 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It's rather humorous that a drunken Youtuber @TheCriticalDri2 can come up with a vastly better story line than anyone Disney has to offer. He fixes @JohnBoyega 's Finn. https://t.co/1hq1VWDOfc
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32:59 <Halycon> Mmmm hot dog
33:42 * Ampera sneezes at Halycon's hot dog
34:00 <Ampera> now your hot dog tastes of my nightmares
34:27 <Halycon> It already does, it's probably full of mechanically separated hooves and eyelids
41:39 <Halycon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZLQpX2uRw
48:08 <rust_collector> yeah, make fancy chicken noodles... or buy a hot dog
50:30 * Ampera hocks a hock at Halycon 
52:05 <Halycon> Mmmm hock
42:17 <rust_collector> good night
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06:02 <hsn> gm
09:34 <T3sl4> o/
30:53 <hsn> \o
42:51 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Never seen the dumper room this full, it's insane. Everyone is moving out at once. Someone actually removed 5 large filling cabinets and replaced them with one large 19" rack. https://t.co/CAVtwKymEb
50:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The old rented lab magically looks much bigger. You'll be pleased to know virtually all the stuff found a home at the 11th hour, nothing was tossed. https://t.co/7f2BROLXuD
01:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I'm outta here... https://t.co/3Co8PT6JTJ
18:46 <Halcyon> Hi hsn
18:52 <hsn> hi Halcyon
19:09 <hsn> how r u .. all good ? enjoying ur day ?
21:17 <Halcyon> Yeh not too bad
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29:20 <hsn> Halcyon, any new wierd crimes ? or how is daily police work is ?
29:43 <Halcyon> I've been on leave for 3 weeks. I go back to work on Tuesday
30:07 <hsn> which section ?
30:11 <hsn> car stuff ?
30:16 <hsn> car police ?
30:24 <hsn> traffic *
30:25 <Halcyon> No I work in Digital Forensics / Cybe Crime
30:30 <Halcyon> *cyber
30:32 <hsn> oh nnice
31:07 <hsn> so if i saw ermmm .. a bad ip from austeria i send to u ?
31:10 <hsn> :D
31:29 <Halcyon> Haha I only deal with major crimes. Counter Terrorism, child exploitation, stuff like that
31:45 <hsn> i can act like a child and send to u ?
31:52 <hsn> :D im expert in that
32:00 <Halcyon> Hahah
32:35 <hsn> i remember saw some documentary of child bot to catch child exploiters
32:40 <hsn> it was fun
32:45 <Halcyon> Child bot?
32:49 <hsn> wait
33:57 <hsn> im trying to find it
34:14 <Halcyon> We have an online covert team that does that kind of stuff
34:28 <Halcyon> Pretends to be children or gun/drug sellers etc...
35:05 <Halcyon> Holy crap I love Japanese sandwiches: https://youtu.be/7FMhRKQYilk?t=767
35:07 <Halcyon> They look amazing
35:46 <hsn> it was "chat bot" that acted like a "children" in social media .. and helped to catch lots of ppl who are child abusers
35:58 <Halcyon> Yeh we just use humans
38:08 <hsn> ah
38:13 <hsn> what a job
38:30 <hsn> so if i want to make them bored .. i just enter and chat with them ?
38:32 <hsn> normal ?
38:48 <Halcyon> Well, you would never know
38:59 <Halcyon> Until you were arrested of course :P
39:10 <hsn> well i send them good morning to 200 austeria childrens everyday
39:17 <Halcyon> And it's usually one-on-one chats with targets
39:42 <hsn> so do they start the chat or wait for ppl to come in
39:52 <Halcyon> I can't really say
39:53 <hsn> also .. are they in PS network as well ?
40:02 <Halcyon> PS ?
40:05 <hsn> playstation
40:11 <Halcyon> We use all networks
40:26 <Halcyon> Could be on gaming consoles, could be on dating apps, email, chat rooms
40:55 <hsn> what u do if abuser was foreigner
41:06 <hsn> contact their govt
41:07 <hsn> ?
41:20 <Halcyon> Depends where they are from but usually go through Interpol and let the locals deal with it
41:40 <Halcyon> We only engage with targets in Australia
41:44 <hsn> how many saudis ?
41:45 <hsn> :D
41:52 <Halcyon> No idea hahaha
42:03 <hsn> can u ask xD ?
42:29 <Halcyon> I doubt we would keep those kinds of statistics
42:29 <hsn> wanted to know like are they more percentage than other countries or .. im just assuming
42:53 <hsn> if u dont .. then the child guy knows .. i guess
42:57 <Halcyon> There are Peadophiles everywhere
43:02 <hsn> by his mind
43:25 <hsn> peadophilist guy
43:33 <hsn> fake child guy
43:37 <hsn> whatever his name is
43:47 <Halcyon> Heh
43:54 <Halcyon> It's not just one guy
44:05 <Halcyon> We have a whole department dedicated to it
45:09 <hsn> yeah
45:26 <hsn> so they can play .. fortnite .. and get paid for it
45:28 <hsn> :D
45:57 <hsn> but then .. they get their mic plugged into voice changer ?
46:05 <hsn> voice childer
46:06 <Halcyon> It's not usually voice chat
46:52 <hsn> ok .. so i tell my saudi friends to ask the children to send voice chat first ?
46:59 <hsn> to make sure he is not police ?
47:00 <hsn> :D
47:08 <Halcyon> Well that won't work either, we have police who can sound like kids
47:12 <Halcyon> It's not difficult
47:15 <hsn> im joking ofc
47:42 <Halcyon> Sure sure :P
48:06 <hsn> i remember i was entering chat rooms acting like im a lady
48:33 <hsn> the biggest one was .. voice chatted with a fool guy for 1 week ..
48:37 <Halcyon> You wanted to pick up guys?
48:39 <Halcyon> :P
48:47 <hsn> then i acted like "my brother catched me" and he is angry
48:50 <hsn> from the guy
49:12 <hsn> and started cursing the guy and telling him i'll beat the shit out of him
49:27 <hsn> then he changed his mobile number
49:49 <hsn> Halcyon, well it was "time killing activity"
49:53 <Halcyon> :P
49:59 <hsn> also u can get money out of it u wish
50:03 <hsn> but i dnt
50:11 <hsn> if u wish
51:31 <hsn> also some have good pickup tricks that u can learn :D
51:43 <damian> sup homies
51:44 <Halcyon> Heh
51:48 <Halcyon> Hey damian, not much
51:55 <hsn> o/ damian
52:10 <damian> great to hear!
52:30 <Halcyon> What's doing?
52:42 <damian> just sat down from dinner, about to update some things on the horse racing bot
52:50 <Halcyon> Fair enough
52:57 <damian> what are you up to
53:16 <Halcyon> Not a whole lot
53:31 <damian> borang
53:32 <damian> work tomorrow?
53:45 <Halcyon> Nah not until Tuesday
54:21 <damian> very nice
54:25 <damian> public holiday here on tuesday
54:30 <damian> another stupid public holiday imo
54:58 <Halcyon> Neat :)
58:35 <damian> what do you have planned for the monday off
00:24 <Halcyon> Sleeping in?
00:28 <damian> attaboy
00:33 <Halcyon> :D
02:03 <Halcyon> Yep, I'm super exciting :P
24:15 <Ysjoelfir> Hello all
26:32 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
27:10 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon :)
55:19 * Ysjoelfir is having a nice, german breakfast
56:58 * Ysjoelfir offers Halcyon a bite
57:13 <Halcyon> What you got?
57:33 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d1YeDwFPjlEGg6clReFa61eqe6x9mPE_/view?usp=sharing
57:46 <Halcyon> Oh yum
57:49 <Halcyon> I love blue cheese
59:05 <Ysjoelfir> its "Viking" brand blue cheese. never had that one before, but its very delicious. though it can't beat the best blue cheese I ever had yet
03:39 <Ysjoelfir> That was this one https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BpkmkDy-GkcXZH3UlrZjrl1vOjN0FlbD/view?usp=sharing
03:53 <Ysjoelfir> found it on our vacation to norge this year
04:13 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/188yadqIn23wDBxBwAhJs_-1nYm21KW9J/view?usp=sharing
05:24 <hsn> die kasse ist schon
05:31 <Ysjoelfir> To bad that you probably can't ship that, otherwise I would force rust_collector to send me 10 of those, frozen xD
05:38 <hsn> die kasse ist "delicious"
05:52 * hsn trying to remember delicious in german
06:09 <hsn> lecker
06:16 <hsn> die kase ist lecker
06:28 <Ysjoelfir> No, cash registers are not beautiful, hsn :P you mean Käse^^ oh, by the way, you can use ae, ue, oe, sz instead of ä ü ö ß :) every german will understand
06:53 <hsn> oooh jaaaa ... mir know duetschland language
07:02 <Ysjoelfir> now make the cheese male (its DER Käse :) and you are right :D
07:21 <hsn> but i like female cheeses
07:22 <hsn> :D
07:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
08:14 <hsn> so i use "sz" for "B-wierd" ?
08:47 <Ysjoelfir> either that (if you want to be 99% correct), or just use a double s
09:10 <Ysjoelfir> which is what most germans do anyway, many people try to not use that stupid ß
09:31 <hsn> i was copying the duolingo app .. it uses ss
09:46 <hsn> whats wrong with it ..
09:47 <hsn> :D
09:47 <Ysjoelfir> thats totalli fine :)
09:54 <Ysjoelfir> *totally
10:15 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, how to know which is "der or die or das" ?
10:16 <Ysjoelfir> well, nothing realy. its.. ok, short explainatino :D one sec
11:00 <hsn> appearantly i cant find the pattern yet .. on nouns .. die frau and der mann is easy .. but not for chieese etc etc ..
12:51 <Ysjoelfir> the letter ß (which also doesn't have an upper- or lowercase variant, its always ß) is called "Ess-Zett" in german. "Ess" is the german pronounciation of the letter S and "Zett" is the pronounciation of the letter z. so traditionally its ß = sz. but since you can't realy read that combination of s and z out loud and the letter ß sounds a hell of a lot just like a sharp s, you just use ss in most cases.
13:30 <Ysjoelfir> ^ haha :D for that there is a very easy answer hsn. let me show you a picture
14:26 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K9Kcr3p7nzov9NJQalhnowhUIOk3vnlG/view?usp=sharing
16:00 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XkAyeIE_5bP7ltifAdQCcl3nT0C_jWN-/view?usp=sharing
16:57 <Ysjoelfir> though in the second picture "der" and "die" must be swapped to make it correct
17:40 <Ysjoelfir> Der Junge (the boy), Das Mädchen (yes, girls are things here. as well as babies.) and Die Frau (the woman)
19:02 <hsn> lol
20:24 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, or is it swapped ? :D
20:33 <hsn> orrrr is it ? :)
20:41 <Ysjoelfir> to be serious: its realy pretty random. ^^
20:56 <hsn> so i've to memorize?
21:02 <Ysjoelfir> sadly yes
21:21 <hsn> how to say schit in german
21:41 <hsn> scheisse
21:49 <Ysjoelfir> correct :)
22:08 <hsn> der scheisze
22:14 <hsn> die scheisze
22:29 <hsn> de faq
22:30 <hsn> :D
22:54 <Ysjoelfir> xD
23:49 <hsn> so thats why i felt stupid yesterday .. i was swapping the der and die all the time and duelingo takes my hearts
24:03 <hsn> im bad at memorizing
25:16 <Ysjoelfir> most germans won't realy care if you, as a foreigner, use the wrong article :)
25:59 <Ysjoelfir> though you will be immediately known as a foreigner^^
26:14 <Ysjoelfir> there are some words where even germans don'Ät know the articles
29:39 <Ysjoelfir> like.... Nutella. I say "Die Nutella", thinking about "Die Nuss-Nougat-Creme", as Creme (cream) is female. mrs spouse would say its "DER Nutella", thinking like "Der Brotaufstrich" (the spread). others say even Das nutella, which I can't explain how someone would think thats right
34:17 <hsn> i say das nutella
34:25 <hsn> if u count me .. :)
34:26 <hsn> :D
34:50 <Ysjoelfir> Feel free to do so :P
35:22 <hsn> but let me quiz my friend who studies in germanistan for the nutella
35:46 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
35:50 <hsn> is there correct answer ?
35:58 <Ysjoelfir> no, not realy.
36:21 <Ysjoelfir> I think most people would vote for female, but there is no rule
36:34 <Ysjoelfir> oh wait
37:02 <Ysjoelfir> there IS a correct answer. Nuttelas company once said which is correct in their feelings. let me check
37:12 <hsn> :D
37:14 <hsn> lol
37:23 <hsn> ok .. this lady talks alot for what then
37:24 <hsn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vj7giLAiHk
40:42 <Ysjoelfir> just checked - ferrero, the nutella guys, were like "its a phantasy name, so it doesn't use any"
42:12 <hsn> ferrero is other chocolate company brand right ?
42:33 <Ysjoelfir> one of the biggest in the world, yes. a company of assholes imho
44:39 <hsn> why so
44:58 <hsn> bcz they italian ??
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46:22 <JoePubi> ㅤㅤㅤㅤ
47:24 <hsn> ㅤㅤㅤㅤ
47:52 <hsn> JoePubi, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGHMdJdSJIk
48:26 <hsn> 01:03:27 ^^
50:36 <Ysjoelfir> yes. nobody likes italians, right hsn? :P No, because of things like supporting child labour and so on.
51:58 <hsn> ah
52:16 <hsn> do they support it just because they binifit from it
52:21 <hsn> or they believe in it
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53:03 <Ysjoelfir> benefit
53:23 <Ysjoelfir> which is even worse imho
17:29 <hsn> ja
17:46 <hsn> T3sl4, is joe biden more lonitic than trump in ur opinion ?
25:51 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, the friend in germinstant thinks there is no article for nutella lol
26:26 <hsn> saying that .. u say : "sandwich of nutella" not "sandwich of the nuttella" .. etc :D
26:53 <hsn> so i said to him .. ok i want to say "i want nutella from the supermarket" no sandwich involved .. what u say?
27:26 <Ysjoelfir> thats what the ferrero guys say as well^^ but ask him what he would say for "please hand me the nutella". Gib mir Nutella!" would sound VERY primitive in german, which is why this whole discussion even exists^^
27:43 <Ysjoelfir> ah, you basically did :D
34:43 <DHess_US> Well, there's your problem, https://i.ibb.co/jTrd50F/IMG-0438.jpg
35:12 <Ysjoelfir> its freeware! no wonder it is fuckered
35:14 <hsn> DHess_US, is that art ascii
37:18 <hsn> the >W< maybe its related to some changes in escape chars in terminals ?
38:06 <DHess_US> hsn, seriously?
38:20 <DHess_US> WD Green hard drive died yesterday on my junk RAID.
38:23 <hsn> seriously idk what is it :D
38:37 <DHess_US> That is diagnostic program showing massive problems.
38:51 <hsn> i just saw "W" which is not listed on right pane
39:10 <DHess_US> Yea, I noticed that. I think it means write error.
39:29 <hsn> ah ..
39:44 <DHess_US> A write error implies that the drive ran out of spare sectors.
40:02 <DHess_US> Which I don't think it actually did so I'm not sure what broke, but it is broken.
40:31 <hsn> is that so ? isnt this software tries to write on sectors by "low level addressing" .. ?
41:36 <hsn> i thought file systems would .. mark bad sectors .. so u dont get this issue .. and hence u can have "bad sector = no space" in that case ?
41:49 <DHess_US> Sort of. The program is just writing blank to every sector to force a reallocation if the sector is bad.
42:17 <hsn> but in this case if its low level utility that tries to test sectors .. Wrtie error doesnt mean no space ?
42:34 <DHess_US> In theory that is possible but in practice hard drives handle bad sectors independently of the OS.
42:59 <DHess_US> You can see on there that there is one "u" which means uncorrectable error. That should neve rhappen.
43:58 <DHess_US> Up to 9 uncorrectable sectors
44:38 <DHess_US> Kind of weird. It just suddenly puked.
44:42 <DHess_US> No warning at all.
45:09 <hsn> where do u see the 9 ?
45:43 <DHess_US> The test is still running.
45:46 <DHess_US> It is up to 9 now.
45:56 <DHess_US> Only shows 1 on that photograph.
46:06 <hsn> oh
46:19 * ibiza is here
47:46 <hsn> this imgbb looks good
05:42 <electrohead> DHess_US: I had an SSD just "up and puke" on me last year, no warning at all
06:37 <electrohead> that was on my main file server, that sucked pretty bad, lol
06:41 <electrohead> and, good morning
09:04 <hsn> does this mean i need to implement RAID ?
09:22 <hsn> asap
09:30 <hsn> if i have precious stuff i dont want to lose ?
10:15 <ibiza> out on the patio we sit...
10:19 <ibiza> in the humidity we breath
10:26 <ibiza> we watch the lighting
10:30 <ibiza> crack over cainfields
10:35 <ibiza> laugh and sing... this is Australiaaaaaaaa
15:00 <DHess_US> hsn, in general, yes.
15:09 <DHess_US> Or keep backups.
19:31 <Ysjoelfir> lol.... just shopping on aliexpress. one seller has a category "Epidemic prevention". With articles like "Digital Thermometer for VIP Sent to USA". But also.... "For Brazilian friends nose hair trimmer razor".... seems like the epidemic is in the nose hair of brazilians? :D
21:07 <Ampera> in general, backups are cheaper and more secure than RAID
21:43 <Ampera> backups protect against data being lost due to it actually being changed on the original volume
22:14 <Ampera> so if you bonehead and rm /usr as su, RAID won't save you
22:52 <Ampera> RAID protects against hardware failures through redundancy, meaning stuff keeps going if drives fail in RAID
32:22 <hsn> Ampera, backup = manual stuff ? from harddrive to another ?
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