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56:08 <coppice_> dinosaur juice is easy to obtain
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19:28 <Ampera> steve30, sounds like my dad.
22:54 <steve30> Does he eat dinosaur?
35:18 <DHess_US> I had a dinosaur grilled cheese sandwich yesterday. It was yummy.
45:49 <Halcyon> Heh
09:30 <steve30> hi Halcyon
09:45 <steve30> I've had family round for dinner
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24:00 * Ampera sneezes at Halcyon
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31:28 <Mixermic> hello all
32:29 <AndrevS> Hello
32:49 <Mixermic> Wow the first person I have ever seen on here
33:09 <rust_collector> hey-o
33:45 <Mixermic> does anyone know any good books or reads on mosfets?
34:19 <Mixermic> I am trying to make a variable resistor and am having trouble
35:31 <AndrevS> I'm afraid I don't know.
18:24 <DHess_US> Oh, so you mean analog? Look for books on JFETs.
18:43 <DHess_US> Also look for application notes from Siliconix. I think they made a few discussing gain control.
18:52 <rust_collector> https://www.vishay.com/docs/70598/70598.pdf
19:51 <DHess_US> For what it is worth, the good variable resistance circuits use a pair of matched MOSFETs so that you measure the resistnace of one and drive the other open loop.
20:04 <DHess_US> If you just want gain control, then that is not neccessary.
23:49 <DHess_US> Offhand I don't know of any books or application notes which cover the matched FET method. The only example I know is in the design of the Tektronix 7D20 which is fully documented.
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54:59 * orbii cracks neck, looks around
55:34 <rust_collector> nothing to see here...
01:43 <orbii> there's always things to observe.
05:15 <DHess_US> nothing is a thing
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50:13 * T3sl4 cracks orbii's neck, looks around it
58:34 <orbii> thanks
58:36 <orbii> it needs it
26:25 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Drove hundreds of km and it was smoke all the way, only to end up in the smokiest town yet. https://t.co/CVxpUWMgS5
28:26 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Trust me, there are wind turbines in that smoke... https://t.co/UBorsU6TN9
29:30 <orbii> that looks barely smokey at all to me :/
29:41 <orbii> that's like 500+m of visibility
36:29 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: That's the sun. #bushfiresAustralia https://t.co/xyVcbpykQ2
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05:49 * Ampera chirps at Halcyon
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23:35 * DogWomble replaces Ampera's battery so he stops chirping
23:49 <Ampera> How's the smoke there, puppy?
23:56 <DogWomble> pretty bad
24:27 <Ampera> rip
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24:45 <DogWomble> we had a storm come through while i was at work, which belew a lot of smoke in to the point that there was a smoke haze in oru foyer
24:56 <Ampera> I wonder if en masse fires set off smoke alarms
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25:18 <DogWomble> well on the way home the other day, while waiting at the bus interchange, there were fire alarms going off
25:25 <DogWomble> so it's been triggering at least a few
26:09 <Ampera> A lot of places have forest and housing mixed together here
26:26 <DogWomble> yeah, we've got that here too to a degree
26:26 <Ampera> so while it's far too moist for that to happen, a large scale forest fire would basically be the end of a lot of places here
26:58 <DogWomble> we've been lucky where i live, most of the smoke is being blown in from the fires elsewhere, we've only had a few small grass fires which have been fairly easy to control
27:35 <Ampera> just blast some earth wind and fire, plug your ears, and wait for the world to burn itself out
28:01 <DogWomble> yeah, i get the impression there's a bit of that happening
28:33 <DogWomble> you could throw all the resourcves in the world at our fires and you'd have a snowaballs in hell of putting them ouit, so it's pretty much preserving life and minimising property damage at this point
30:23 <Ampera> That's how all large scale fires work.
30:45 <Ampera> You don't put out millions of acres of inferno out, not even with the best fire suppression services in the world
31:02 <Ampera> whatever is burning now, and whatever was, is going to burn until it cannae burn no longer.
32:52 <DogWomble> yeah, and it's goign to burn that way for a long toim,e
34:08 <DogWomble> http://users.on.net/~dogwomble/WP_20200101_07_15_51_Rich.jpg
34:16 <DogWomble> That's the smoke haze coming back from work yesterday
35:13 <DogWomble> i couldn't quite pick which one, but there were fire alarms going off in one of those buildings
36:10 <Ampera> Looks like an apocalypse
36:21 <DogWomble> it's not far offwe'
36:25 <Ampera> lol
36:44 <DogWomble> i'm just waiting for the bodies of the dead to rise from their graves
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36:59 <Ampera> blast some michael jackson
44:33 <DogWomble> and have the pitchforks and machine guns ready?
45:05 <Ampera> yeet
45:26 <Ampera> hippity hoppity abolish gun lethargy
46:43 <Ampera> make open carry not just legal, but make it mandatory
20:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @minorplanet: @eevblog In Dunedin, New Zealand yesterday, the sky was yellow, Tekapo & Christchurch more orange, these photos taken 5 da…
27:26 <Ampera> Halcyon is depressingly conspicuous
33:57 <DogWomble> welll whether he is even home at the moment i'm not sure
36:55 <orbii> Halcyon is depressing
36:58 <Ampera> eevblog time
36:58 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 19:36 Sydney time.
37:08 <Ampera> the rest of the upside down gang is here
40:31 <orbii> ur a gang
41:02 * Ampera smacks orbii with an orbii
43:28 * Halcyon nibbles on Ampera
43:35 <Halcyon> Why am I depressing?
43:35 <Ampera> HALCYON
43:39 * Ampera smacks Halcyon with an orbii
43:44 * orbii pling
43:48 <Halcyon> :P
44:02 <Ampera> I have a grey guy with me
44:14 <Halcyon> Richard?
44:17 <Ampera> no
44:20 <Halcyon> ?
44:24 <Ampera> Minou
44:30 <Halcyon> Pfft, stupid cat
44:44 * Halcyon pets Minou reluctantly
44:47 * Ampera smacks Halcyon, just straight up, like the bitch he is
44:59 <Halcyon> Harder!
45:00 <Halcyon> :P
45:03 * orbii raises an eyebrow
45:11 * Ampera raises an orbii in toast to Halcyon
45:16 * orbii plong
45:19 <Halcyon> Oh orbii, as if you don't mind a bit of abuse
45:30 <Ampera> his neck doesn't
45:33 <orbii> ^
45:35 <Halcyon> Speaking of toast, there is a bottle of wine with my name on it
45:47 <Ampera> Shitaeu du Halcyon?
46:17 <Halcyon> I think its a 2014 Merlot blend of sorts
46:24 <Halcyon> Probably a bit of Cabernet
46:33 <Halcyon> I'd have to go check
47:12 <Ampera> wine is a sin
47:19 <Halcyon> Pah
48:01 <Ampera> the 21st will be an interesting day
48:17 <Halcyon> Mmmm ?
48:59 <Ampera> It's the red letter day
49:44 <Ampera> It may be the day I make a decision.
49:45 <Halcyon> I thought that was 5th November 1955
49:55 <Halcyon> When Doc invents time travel
50:24 <Ampera> 21st of Janurary 2002
51:20 <Ampera> is muh burdday
51:32 <Halcyon> YAY
51:33 <orbii> november fifth 1955. a red letter day in the history of science.
51:51 <steve30> hehe, its strange to think that people could have been born this millenium
52:18 <orbii> something something edge of toilet, hanging a clock, wet porcelain, slip, hit head.
52:41 <Ampera> It's also the day I turn 18
52:54 <Ampera> and can finally decide if I want to kill myself or not
52:55 <orbii> you're legal.
53:01 <Ampera> since I can't be told I'm not allowed to anymore
53:19 <steve30> Is suicide illegal in under 18s?
53:33 <orbii> well, it's illegal under 18 or over 18
53:47 <coppice_> steve30: you'll never make it as an obstetrician with that attitude
53:47 <orbii> is it better to break the law as a minor?
54:09 <Ampera> lol
54:22 <orbii> probably a lesser sentence, unless you get tried as an adult i suppose.
54:24 <steve30> I think you'd have a hard time prosecuting someone who is dead
54:34 <orbii> well, there's always the possibility you fail
54:42 <orbii> .. and still get prosecuted
55:28 <Halcyon> I hope you don't Ampera
55:31 <Halcyon> *cuddles*
55:34 <Ampera> >:(
55:38 <Ampera> so you want me to be in pain?
55:39 <Halcyon> I'll miss you
55:40 <Ampera> I see how it is
55:44 <orbii> there'd be an awful lot less drama in here.
55:48 <Ampera> ^
55:56 <orbii> and i dont say that in a positive or negative way
55:59 <Ampera> I'm a pain to everyone, better for me to just feck off
56:00 <Halcyon> Oh please, this place would be boring as bat shit
56:10 <Ampera> what's to say it isn't?
56:18 <Halcyon> You're here
56:19 <orbii> it already is
56:29 <Ampera> orbii's the smartest person here
56:38 <orbii> if i'm the smartest person, then god help us all
56:41 <Halcyon> He can't be, he's from Canberra :P
56:44 <Ampera> god help us all
56:58 <steve30> I spent quite a few years being suicidal, and I'm still here.
57:03 <DogWomble> there's anotehr canberran aside from me?
57:04 <orbii> halcyon: lost all these brain cells from all this smoke
57:11 <Ampera> steve30 so you're saying you're a failure?
57:13 <Halcyon> Still smokey down there?
57:17 <coppice_> if you get the crazy people off the internet, who would be left to keep the ISPs in business. Think of their poor hungry children
57:20 <orbii> it's still teh worst air in the world, yes.
57:21 <DogWomble> Yeah it's awful down here
57:29 <Halcyon> Bugger
57:33 <Halcyon> We even got rain this morning
57:51 <DogWomble> http://users.on.net/~dogwomble/WP_20200101_07_15_51_Rich.jpg <-- That was on the way home from work yesterday morning
58:03 <orbii> work .. yesterday..
58:11 <DogWomble> yeah, i was working yesterday :)
58:14 <orbii> honestly, that looks pretty clear compared to today.
58:26 <steve30> Ampera, Well, I failed attempting suicide (I never managed to attempt it), but i don't 'feel' like a failure.
58:27 <Ampera> probably smells amazing
58:30 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'll be back later, I just walked in the door, need to get changed and start dinner.
58:31 <orbii> Ampera: not really
58:35 <DogWomble> yeah, though tehre were fire alarms going off in one of those buildings
59:00 <Ampera> steve30, there would be no such thing as an attempt if I were to try it
59:07 <Ampera> I'm not stupid enough to fuck it up
59:39 <steve30> Ampera, one of my main concerns with suicide was that I can worried I /would/ screw it up
00:03 <Ampera> It's incredible simply how many things will be absolutely and certainly fatal
01:36 <coppice_> its amazing how many people survive accidents that look like they must be 100% fatal
01:48 <Ampera> coppice_, that's what makes them accidents
02:55 <orbii> sometimes people wish they were fatal afterwards
03:04 <Ampera> Reminds me of Jobe, who told me not to joke about suicide
03:16 <Ampera> to which I replied, joking about it means I'm not doing it
03:18 <orbii> is there anything you *cant* joke about? fuck that shit
03:19 <coppice_> the most popular methods for male suicide are high place and guns (at least in places where guns are easy to get), but the survival rate for those methods is fairly high
03:53 <Ampera> I have a 240v 30A socket in my house, with no RCD, stick the hot and live from one arm to the other, straight through my heart
03:56 <Ampera> that'll probably be fatal
04:22 <coppice_> lots of people survive things like that
04:40 <Ampera> coppice_, not if you permanently attach the electrodes to yourself
04:43 <orbii> Ampera: i've touched 240V between my arms before, didnt kill me.
04:44 <coppice_> quite a few survive really strong lightning strikes
04:56 <orbii> and it didnt have an RCD/GFCI, and didnt set off the fuse
04:59 <Ampera> orbii, you presumably stopped touching it
05:09 <orbii> ampera: thankfully i was able to after about ~20-30 seconds
05:12 <Ampera> other interesting method of suicide is nitrogen asphyxiation
05:23 <orbii> i was maybe 12-13 at the time
05:28 <Ampera> but that requires purified nitrogen and a breathing apparatus
05:40 <orbii> helium too
05:45 <Ampera> I've gotten shocked off NEMA 5-15 plugs once or twice
05:54 <orbii> 240V hurts.
05:54 <Ampera> orbii, hydrogen would be easier to get
05:58 <orbii> oh, okay
06:13 <Ampera> I could make purified hydrogen fairly easily
07:11 <orbii> just need water.
07:14 <steve30> hmm, I haven't had any of those pregnancy spam emails for a few days
07:25 <Ampera> steve30, congradulations, steve30, what did you name her?
07:26 <orbii> steve30: maybe they realised you werent pregnant anymore
07:43 <coppice_> steve30: maybe they aborted their email campaign
08:04 <Ampera> abortion is also another neat way to commit suicide
08:08 <steve30> Last one was a couple of weeks ago:
08:10 <steve30> "	
08:10 <steve30> 7 pregnancy sex positions (illustrated) - If your go-to positions feel awkward now, here's how to get comfy "
08:25 <Ampera> illustrations?
08:27 <Ampera> give
08:29 <Ampera> now
08:31 <Ampera> cyka
09:11 <steve30> https://www.babycenter.com/101_pregnancy-sex-positions-illustrated_10408539.bc?bclink=top-cta&scid=highlights_preg_2_20191219&pe=MlVIclRycXwyMDE5MTIxOQ%3D%3D&liveconnect=7c78cfb805688413de9c00d8252a0dc1&utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=highlights_preg_2_20191219&PageSpeed=noscript
09:14 <coppice_> who needs pictures to help them stay comfy during pregnant sex? do some people lack ALL creativity?
10:15 <coppice_> the lower left picture is the closest to most comfy, but they need a higher bed so the guy can stand
11:10 <Ampera> gdi steve
11:18 <Ampera> I can't click that in a terminal
11:22 <Ampera> brb getting xpra out
12:25 <Ampera> steve30, can you resend
12:31 <steve30> https://www.babycenter.com/101_pregnancy-sex-positions-illustrated_10408539.bc?bclink=top-cta&scid=highlights_preg_2_20191219&pe=MlVIclRycXwyMDE5MTIxOQ%3D%3D&liveconnect=7c78cfb805688413de9c00d8252a0dc1&utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=highlights_preg_2_20191219&PageSpeed=noscript
13:08 <Ampera> worth it
29:05 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The only positive thing about the #NSWbushfires smoke is the eerie photographs you can get. https://t.co/eOeI3dpzNA
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52:32 <steve31> I've just been doing some weight lifting. Time for dinner now I think :)
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33:14 <Halcyon> It's raining again
33:22 <Halcyon> orbii, I hope you guys are getting some of this
34:06 * steve30 pounces onto Halcyon 
34:14 <Halcyon> :D
34:19 <Halcyon> I'm about ready for bed
34:40 * steve30 purrs Halcyon to sleep
35:05 <Halcyon> Goodnight all
35:09 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
36:57 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/KV6SHFF
37:12 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
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