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00:00:08 <steve30> sounds ouchy
00:04:21 <steve30> I also have an odd lump on my neck. Never did find out what that was. Doesn't seem to cause any problem though
00:04:55 <Ysjoelfir> you seem to be kind of lumpy all over :D
00:10:03 <steve30> I saw several GPs, a physiotherapist, a consultant, had two X-rays, and an MRI scan for that. Still no one has any idea :S
00:11:05 <K> aliens.
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00:12:55 <Ysjoelfir> That must be it
00:25:01 <hsn993> why this guy is angry and insulting : https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/forward-leakage-of-a-diode/msg1287509/#msg1287509
00:27:52 <K> highus horsus
00:32:04 <hsn993> which means
00:33:07 <hsn993> if you tell someone to, or suggest that someone should, get off their high horse, you are suggesting they stop behaving in a superior manner
00:35:06 <K> yes
00:37:13 <hsn993> do we have someone like (bob pease) modern ?
00:39:59 <K> um, dunno
00:40:29 <K> horowitz and hill / the art of elctronics
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02:05:37 <Ysjoelfir> The hell T3sl4?
02:44:00 <K> keep it together, man!
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03:06:51 <steve30> or maybe I could sodder him, since he's a coil
03:09:27 <K> tig him!
03:16:13 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/S41x7vP.jpg
03:27:35 <coppice_> One slight flaw. The corona virus didn't originate in ShangHai
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03:42:25 <Lemon> hello peeps
03:46:55 <K> evenin'
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03:50:35 <Lemon> I might have found a waveform generator
03:50:39 <Lemon> this baby http://www.test.it/sitonew/Specifiche%20strumenti/ELC/Pdf/GF763A.pdf
03:52:31 <Lemon> the guy wants 30 euros for it, and its in excellent condition
03:52:37 <Lemon> gotta add 10 for the shipping
03:53:58 <K> it does look quite nice
03:54:31 <Lemon> 0.2hz to 2mhz, its not the highest bw but well
03:54:46 <Lemon> do I really need several mhz ?
03:55:02 <Lemon> it will be mainly to learn electronics, analog precisely
03:55:13 <K> you'll need some sort of frequency counter for somewhat precise setting
03:56:00 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/1742282637.htm/
03:56:06 <Lemon> he sells another model, for 20 euros
03:56:12 <Lemon> this one got a counter I think
03:57:02 <Lemon> the other one I was interested by is this one https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1736657540.htm/
03:57:11 <Lemon> a bit more expensive, but it goes up to 10mhz and got a counter
04:03:48 <DHess_US> coppice_, don't ruin a good meme with facts.
04:04:29 <coppice_> you don't even need to read the Chinese. It says it clearly in English.
04:16:23 <DHess_US> what is left of oven element that failed last night, https://i.ibb.co/qCzsk4N/Resize-of-IMG-0372.jpg
04:19:07 <Ysjoelfir> what happened to that element DHess? Oo
04:19:26 <DHess_US> Shorted out last night.
04:19:38 <DHess_US> It became an arc welder for about 10 seconds.
04:19:42 <DHess_US> In my oven.
04:19:58 <Ysjoelfir> nice! did you use it for something productive?
04:20:00 <DHess_US> The conversation went, "Why don't you fix that in the morning?" "I'm hungry now."
04:20:05 <DHess_US> Yes, food.
04:20:15 <Ysjoelfir> I count that as productive.
04:21:33 <Ysjoelfir> so your food now gets skin cancer because of the high UV radiation?
04:22:02 <DHess_US> No, I fixed it last night. Arc weld seasoned fish sticks are the best.
04:23:00 <coppice_> nothing like a little welding flux vapour seasoning
04:23:54 <Ysjoelfir> you could get rich selling that idea
04:31:17 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog time
04:31:17 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 04:31 Sydney time.
04:58:23 <rust_collector> zzz what?
04:58:50 <DHess_US> That is the sound the oven made. Zzz.
04:59:07 <rust_collector> maybe I am an oven
05:07:57 <K> Your'e an oven, Harry!
05:14:57 <rust_collector> sveiki k
05:23:20 <Lemon> alright so it seems I have two choices
05:23:32 <Ysjoelfir> between which PSU and which other one?
05:23:40 <Lemon> no no this is done for the psu part !
05:23:43 <Lemon> I bought it :>
05:23:50 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/1742282637.htm/ generator time :D
05:23:51 <Ysjoelfir> i know^^
05:24:01 <rust_collector> he agreed to ship it to me, I think
05:24:19 <Lemon> either the 20 euros one that got a tiny frenquency counter, and pretty much the same functions that the other one
05:24:27 <Lemon> which is 30 euros, but no freq counter
05:24:39 <Lemon> buuutt it seems to be a tad better, I don't know in which way
05:25:20 <rust_collector> get the expensive one without the counter, because you are the sort of person that would want to buy a counter, to make your bench symmetric
05:25:31 <Lemon> rahhhhhh
05:26:00 <Ysjoelfir> I support that
05:26:20 <Lemon> i'd rather avoid that :>
05:26:34 <Ysjoelfir> well, then the decision is done :)
05:26:35 <Lemon> my plan was to buy a cheap one now, and later if I need a better one, invest in something better
05:26:45 <Lemon> looking at both unit
05:26:52 <Lemon> can you spot something one got and the other miss ?
05:26:59 <Lemon> besides the counter
05:27:07 <rust_collector> hook it up to a switch or sensor on your door, and your chair, to make it count how many times you get off your ass, and how many people come visit, but guve up
05:28:19 <Ysjoelfir> right now I can't look - playing games :)
05:28:22 <Lemon> well I think it will be close to zero, no one comes here :>
05:28:29 <Ysjoelfir> Metal Gear 5 if anyone is interested
05:28:39 <rust_collector> no, not really
05:28:50 <Ysjoelfir> I know :)
05:34:24 <K> labvakar, rust_collector
05:36:27 <rust_collector> Mans transportlīdzeklis uz gaisa spilvena ir pilns ar zušiem
05:36:41 <rust_collector> so, yes, thanks, good evenight to you too
05:37:14 <rust_collector> what does the - on top of a letter do?
05:43:19 <K> haha
05:44:32 <K> prolongs the vovel
05:44:42 <K> vowel
05:44:47 <rust_collector> oh-k
05:45:51 <K> the litle inverted chevron on top of s, z, c -> sh, zh, ch
05:47:02 <rust_collector> no, not the bent one, the straight line?
05:47:54 <rust_collector> Uz redzēšanos has both
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05:49:24 <K> the stright one is only over a, e, i, u and prolongs them
05:49:47 <rust_collector> oh, so they are the same, just for different letters?
05:50:59 <K> um, inveted chevron on top is not the same as stright line on top
05:51:16 <K> literal translation for stright line on top would be somth like "prolonging-sign"
05:51:33 <K> for chevron - "softening-sign"
05:51:38 <rust_collector> ah
05:52:03 <rust_collector> that is a thing I can try to remember, lol
05:52:30 <K> encounter latvians much?
05:55:13 <rust_collector> well, yes
05:55:40 <rust_collector> usually more lithuanians, but we have a few latvians
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06:03:19 <K> i see
06:03:34 <K> it goes quite differently for lithuanian language though
06:03:49 <rust_collector> everything is pretty different there, I think
06:04:10 <K> well, not as different as estonian, but still
06:08:26 <Lemon> well I think I'm going for the wfg with the little counter, as someone said it here I need one and never thought about it
06:08:41 <Lemon> I can't afford to spend more money on a standalone freq counter now
06:08:56 <Lemon> and the dude sells some BNC cables that I needed for 2 euros a pop, which is pretty neat
06:09:07 <rust_collector> well, I guess you should have some way to know what frequency you are feeding things with
06:09:07 <Lemon> it will be more than enough to play with some waveforms and learn some stuff !
06:09:27 <Lemon> yeah, and both looks really close spec wise
06:09:39 <Lemon> I guess the other one is a bit high-end-er but well
06:09:45 <Lemon> for that price.. :>
06:10:28 <Lemon> so for cables, I need a bnc to bnc to connect the generator to my scope
06:10:41 <Lemon> a bnc to probes maybe ?
06:10:45 <Lemon> to inject a signal somewhere
06:11:28 <rust_collector> we don't really have a market for this kind of stuff up here. You do find the random scope, and some times a spectrum analyzer. but not much else
06:11:49 <K> well, theorteically you could assess the frequency using scope
06:12:08 <rust_collector> sure
06:12:18 <K> not very convenient, but can be done
06:12:49 <Lemon> yeah gotta calculate some stuff but well honestly, I wanted a little generator to learn and try some stuff
06:12:49 <K> do you have a scope, cant rembember :/
06:12:52 <K> >
06:12:55 <K> ?
06:12:57 <Lemon> later, if I manage to sell my laptop
06:13:02 <Lemon> (yeah a tek 2245a)
06:13:07 <Lemon> I'll grab a better one
06:14:41 <rust_collector> it looks like it will do most things you need, I think?
06:15:02 <rust_collector> I mean, it is 5 times the mhz rating of mine, lol
06:17:46 <Lemon> ho yeah its a really solid scope
06:20:40 <Ysjoelfir> oh, I remember: you wanted to know which scope I have at my bench, lemon
06:20:48 <Lemon> ho yes !
06:21:19 <K> that is a nice scope
06:21:50 <Ysjoelfir> Its a Hameg 1507-3. and on top of that there is the good old rigol DS1054
06:22:10 <Ysjoelfir> I also have some Teks.... some more... teks...
06:22:27 <Lemon> hooo pretty nice !
06:22:38 <Lemon> it got some digital storage right ?
06:23:01 <Lemon> I have two hameg 203, 203-1 maybe ? 20mhz versions, in various shape
06:23:19 <Lemon> one seems to work fine but the glass with markings is trying to escape
06:25:25 <Ysjoelfir> A 310, a 502, a 502A, 2 of the 546, a 556 and a 565 as well as a 400 series that I can't remember right now
06:25:37 <Ysjoelfir> some broken, some working.
06:25:50 <K> i gots me a hameg 605 when the voltage multiplier on my fathers C1-74 died
06:26:11 <Lemon> thats a neat collection :>
06:26:23 <Lemon> I really need to find how I will put the new psu on the desk lol
06:26:47 <rust_collector> uhm, just put a benchtop on it?
06:27:04 <Lemon> well I have my 3 computer screen #
06:27:08 <Lemon> thats the main problem
06:27:17 <Ysjoelfir> The tek scopes aren't on my desk either... sadly :( I would love to have the space^^
06:27:21 <Lemon> and I cant put them higher, its already at the limit
06:28:51 <MrMobodies> I have just disconnected the powerline adapters to the living room.
06:29:11 <MrMobodies> oops the scrollbars stuck
06:29:13 <rust_collector> nice
06:29:25 <MrMobodies> I ran about 9 cables next door
06:29:53 <MrMobodies> I was getting so fed up with it that ran a temporary cable from the room next to me, through the hallways around the door into the li
06:30:00 <MrMobodies> lounge switch
06:30:02 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/0xHkBx1.jpg
06:30:18 <rust_collector> I used powerline adapters out to the garage for several years. when they decided to work, they did a pretty ok job
06:30:29 <MrMobodies> When it cuts out, the television or youtube stuff don't seem to try again then it is quicker restarting the tv and so on
06:31:15 <MrMobodies> My parents use it a lot and complain a lot and sometimes I end up switching everything off accidently by trying to reach the powerline adaptor behind the cabinet.
06:31:47 <MrMobodies> I am pleased I thought of running more spares cables in the room next to me and it is proving worth it
06:31:53 <Halcyon> Morning all
06:32:02 <MrMobodies> morning
06:32:08 <MrMobodies> it is evening here in England
06:32:10 <K> morning
06:32:10 <rust_collector> hey-o
06:32:17 <K> 21:32 here eh
06:32:21 <Lemon> hello
06:32:25 <MrMobodies> and the last evening for the powerline adaptor that I pulled out
06:32:36 <Lemon> so the model 960 + a bnc to bnc that is
06:32:37 <rust_collector> just glue it in
06:32:44 <Lemon> 30 euros, including 8 euros of shipping
06:32:49 <Lemon> thats a pretty deal I think
06:32:51 <rust_collector> get 2
06:32:54 <Lemon> and its made in france !
06:33:02 <Lemon> I didnt know this brand, Centrad
06:33:02 <rust_collector> oh, forget that then
06:33:07 <Lemon> haha
06:33:10 <K> bhh
06:33:23 <Lemon> hope he won't give up too soon
06:33:41 <Lemon> at least not until I buy a bigger one :>
06:33:50 <K> you could get 2 and have one for spares, if need be
06:33:56 <Lemon> maybe not, who knows, it might be enough
06:33:59 <K> but i doubt that is worth it
06:33:59 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon
06:34:00 <rust_collector> I do think you want one with more betters
06:34:03 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
06:34:06 * Halcyon rubs eyes
06:34:15 <Lemon> yeah not worth it honestly
06:34:17 <rust_collector> squeak squeak
06:34:17 <Lemon> I thought about it
06:34:34 <Ysjoelfir> I was at Edeka. They indeed have a few australian and new zealandian wines
06:34:42 <Halcyon> Oh nice
06:35:12 <Halcyon> The NZ Ssauvignon blanc's are quite fruity but kind of dry.
06:35:18 <Halcyon> I like them, nice in summer
06:35:29 <rust_collector> australian wines are pretty common here, I think? I do not drink wine, so I am not that into it, but I think I have seen a few
06:35:56 <Ysjoelfir> I took photos for you, as usual^^
06:35:58 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C90d6sr_fi9JPM4_mh2YbmDa9CVNZ5f0/view?usp=sharing
06:36:01 <Halcyon> We get quite a bit of wine from France here, apart from the Champagne, I don't really like much of it
06:36:17 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BwOSWby9xtzlR4D9Yocj4GNIhp9rmv2B/view?usp=sharing
06:36:22 <Halcyon> Never heard of that first one
06:36:30 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1By4r_LZn7uS_KDSqCcIfvDmCh0BFC0zu/view?usp=sharing
06:36:45 <Ysjoelfir> and those https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CP8ydWi4hKKOdXiWSYl0dwjpMOHUutWX/view?usp=sharing
06:36:48 <MrMobodies> Shiraz wine
06:37:00 <Ysjoelfir> Käfer is a german brand if I am correct
06:37:09 <Halcyon> Yeh those Yellow Tail wines are faily basic. Commonly used for table or cooking wine
06:37:59 <Ysjoelfir> I got the dark red from those yellow tail ones. It said medium dry. It's actually not to bad
06:38:03 <Halcyon> You really need to import the good stuff by the looks of it, or find a cellar that stocks them
06:38:29 <Halcyon> Oh yeh it's not terrible wine by any stretch, it's just, you wouldn't order it here unless you're really after cheap stuff
06:38:56 <Lemon> I drank a Haut Vieux Chene today
06:38:58 <Ysjoelfir> incidentally it is the most expensive one on the shelve
06:39:01 <Lemon> and god, it was awful
06:39:16 <Lemon> well it was only a few euros, but still I was disappointed
06:39:26 <Ysjoelfir> well, except from the new zealandish thing
06:39:26 <Halcyon> For example, those Yellow Tail's are AUD$7.95 here https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_904869/yellow-tail-cabernet-sauvignon
06:39:31 <Lemon> it smelled somewhat great, but tasted like vinegar
06:39:47 <Ysjoelfir> I have exactly that in my glass right now ^^
06:40:16 <Halcyon> A cheap wine here is anything under say $10-$15
06:40:29 <Halcyon> I know you can't judge quality just by the price, but sometimes you can :P
06:41:22 <Halcyon> Like the cheap Spumante, because it makes you "spew" :P
06:41:54 <Lemon> well theres a local dude that make his own, along with other products
06:42:00 <Lemon> I think the bottle is around 7 euros
06:42:01 <Halcyon> Oh they have German wines here too: https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_ER_2000003062_OBERSEKTBRUT200ML/oberkircher-silberstern-sekt-brut
06:42:05 <Lemon> and its really good I must admit
06:42:10 <Halcyon> I quite a lot of German rieslings.
06:42:13 <MrMobodies> I see dark red wine I think of the words "Swiney wine"
06:42:15 <Halcyon> I don't mind them
06:42:25 <MrMobodies> the ones that stains my cup
06:42:41 <Halcyon> That is a fecking expensive wine! $155 for 200 mL
06:43:06 <Halcyon> Yeh they stain your teeth too, looks like you've been eating lipstick
06:43:11 <MrMobodies> but
06:43:12 <MrMobodies> $299.00 per case of 12
06:43:32 <MrMobodies> so $155 for one but 12 for $299
06:43:36 <Halcyon> Weird
06:43:49 <Halcyon> I'd say since it's unavailable, no one has bothered to update it
06:44:49 <Ysjoelfir> there is so much to know about wine... interesting :D
06:44:49 <Halcyon> Anyway I better get going to work, have a good day/night everyone
06:45:19 <Ysjoelfir> does anybody of you own some modern headphones and could tell me the size of the earpads?
06:45:26 <Ysjoelfir> oh, that early? ok, have fun :)
06:45:35 <Halcyon> Yeh, I start at 0800
06:45:54 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog time
06:45:55 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 06:45 Sydney time.
06:45:59 <MrMobodies> I do have a Philips SD 1502 not exactly modern but I'd have to measure
06:46:01 <Ysjoelfir> hm. ok :)
06:46:10 <MrMobodies> I got it from Germany in 2008
06:46:28 <MrMobodies> I had to repair it a couple of times when it got knocked on the ceilings in the attic
06:46:38 <Ysjoelfir> I am looking for replacement earpads for a vintage 70s german headphone - sadly most manufacturers don't list the size of the pads...
06:46:56 <MrMobodies> I have the same problem that one too
06:47:04 <MrMobodies> I cant get the right type of cups
06:47:11 <MrMobodies> so I have to clean it carefully
06:47:27 <Lemon> I miss my th900
06:47:43 <Lemon> it was a wonderful piece of gear, but costly too
06:47:44 <MrMobodies> it uses aa's rechargeables from a flap on the side which is handy
06:47:53 <MrMobodies> is that wireless too?
06:47:55 <Lemon> I sold it along with its ifi micro black label, to pay for other things
06:48:22 <MrMobodies> Foxtex
06:48:38 <Lemon> yes, I had he mk1 if I'm right
06:48:50 <MrMobodies> Philips SD 1502
06:48:52 <MrMobodies> oops
06:48:59 <MrMobodies> https://fostexinternational.com/docs/products/TH900.shtml
06:49:21 <MrMobodies> I like the red colour
06:49:40 <Lemon> I got it for a decent price, second hand but like new for 700 euros
06:49:47 <Lemon> and 380 for the amp
06:49:52 <Lemon> wonderful little amp btw
06:49:58 <MrMobodies> it looks hand made in the pictures
06:50:00 <MrMobodies> and the stand
06:50:04 <Lemon> I managed to sell both for 950 which was alright
06:50:07 <MrMobodies> https://www.fostexinternational.com/public/images/highside_gallery/th900_st300.jpg
06:50:10 <Lemon> it is totally handmade yeah
06:50:18 <Lemon> I suggest to find the video where they show how they make it
06:50:24 <Lemon> its actually really impressive
06:50:47 <Lemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtKXGbsA94E
06:50:47 <Ysjoelfir> lol? my telefunken also is called TH900 :D
06:50:49 <Lemon> here is it
06:51:38 <MrMobodies> Is it all metal, it looks all metal where swings to adjust the shape of the heads
06:51:40 <Lemon> pads were so fragile, some sort of bio leather made of Idontknowwhat
06:51:45 <Ysjoelfir> but that is no incident, fostex did, as far as my research went, use the speakers from Telefunken back than....
06:51:50 <Lemon> cups are wood
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06:52:21 <Lemon> what was nice with it, is that you could llisten to some classical, then some huge bass heavy songs, then some rock...
06:52:24 <Lemon> it would shine everywhere
06:52:25 <MrMobodies> looks like the best quality wired headphones I have come across worthy of the price
06:52:48 <Lemon> yeah they are really well made, its not in my habit to spend that much
06:52:54 <MrMobodies> I have seen expensive headphones and the words don't mean anything but I look at that and think that not uch for the quality
06:52:54 <Lemon> but damn I couldn't resist when I tried them
06:53:07 <Lemon> yeah thats why I stopped audio
06:53:12 <Lemon> too much snake oil
06:53:26 <Lemon> freaking 3k usd iem cables, 30 dollars iems that sound as good as 500 ones
06:53:31 <MrMobodies> Just a cheap large bit is copper and shielding and I'm happy
06:53:42 <MrMobodies> for about that 30 dollars
06:53:54 <MrMobodies> I have a hiss from my sound card I got use to
06:53:54 <Lemon> I made my own cables to try, with mundorf lead, nice copper litz of brand etc
06:54:00 <Lemon> no differences with a cheapo at all xd
06:54:17 <MrMobodies> there are the ultra crap ones that break easy that I advoid
06:54:27 <Lemon> yeah the only thing that matter is that
06:54:30 <Lemon> + looks ofc
06:54:39 <Lemon> I admit I spent 30 bucks on a small interconnect
06:54:44 <Lemon> to stack a dap on top of an amp
06:54:57 <MrMobodies> I found 2 years ago from TV cables some techlijnk stereo cables
06:55:03 <MrMobodies> £2.50 each end of line stuff
06:55:22 <MrMobodies> So brought the whole stock. I had some over the years and they seem to give me no problems
06:55:33 <MrMobodies> they have got a fancy metal jacket they don't need
06:56:01 <MrMobodies> it is not part of the shielding but none of have broke and they seem okay maybe I should tear one down
06:56:01 <Lemon> yeah sometimes cable matters, for shielding, etc but for audio well, not that much honestly
06:56:58 <MrMobodies> I have an Aztech 2320 sound card, it hisses so I have another sound card when I adjust the treble and volume I don't hear it as mucj
06:57:11 <MrMobodies> I use it for the SRS3D effect I get from it
06:57:27 <Lemon> hmmm it could be a problem from something else
06:57:35 <Lemon> a ground issue somewhere maybe
06:57:52 <MrMobodies> I have brought some of them they all have that issue, it does on high volume or so
06:58:16 <MrMobodies> but I like how the background noises and instruments sound like they are ontop
06:58:22 <MrMobodies> and I hear more detail
06:58:42 <MrMobodies> I have been using that since I discovered in 2001
06:58:53 <MrMobodies> I loop all my audio through it
06:59:19 <MrMobodies> I know they built SRS labs amplifiers in the states but none in England
06:59:29 <MrMobodies> apart from car radios and some sound cards
06:59:53 <MrMobodies> in the late 80's and 90's
07:00:24 <MrMobodies> The headphones look so good the way they are bolted on
07:00:40 <MrMobodies> https://www.fostexinternational.com/public/images/highside_gallery/TH900_003.jpg
07:01:05 <Lemon> please don't make me think about how I miss them :(
07:01:22 <Lemon> I know theres another version, th600 maybe ? and some massdrop versions
07:01:29 <MrMobodies> they put all my others to shame in build quality
07:01:30 <Lemon> cheaper, and sound is close to those
07:01:50 <Lemon> well to be honest, they were the highest quality I ever got
07:01:53 <Lemon> the only other
07:02:04 <Lemon> were some iems, sony ex1000 precisely
07:02:14 <Lemon> which I sold recently for more than I paid for lol not by much but still
07:02:31 <Lemon> I kept some beyer headphones, dunu falcon C iems, and some cheapos
07:02:41 <Lemon> and my whole dap collection ofc I love those too much to sell them
07:03:51 <MrMobodies> before I found the Philips 1502 I had another one PHILIPS SBC HC8652
07:04:01 <MrMobodies> I lost my temper and I think I threw it out the window
07:04:13 <MrMobodies> at a lower volume it cut out and goes pissssh!
07:04:26 <MrMobodies> and then when the tv volume increases it took ages to turn back on
07:04:46 <MrMobodies> turn the volume up, and it would cut out at slightly higfher volume and distort
07:05:08 <MrMobodies> no way to have it on all the time it
07:05:18 <MrMobodies> but it didn't do it with the 1502
07:05:38 <Lemon> damn that sound like a weird issue !
07:06:26 <MrMobodies> I think I brought a Seinheizer before that
07:06:33 <MrMobodies> and it did the same thing and I returned it
07:08:35 <MrMobodies> I got to go for my glasses tomorrow but I feel so lazy and tired
07:08:56 <MrMobodies> got to find out if they can get the exact frames
07:09:14 <MrMobodies> or I have to travel to 200 miles away, I know they had stock on it
07:09:28 <MrMobodies> the frames broke
07:10:33 <Ysjoelfir> I guess I just have to try various ear pads,,, I like how the grey pads of the Beyerdynamic DT770 look, so I may try those
07:12:20 <MrMobodies> https://images.musicstore.de/images/1600/beyerdynamic-dt-770-pro-80-ohm-closed-studio-headphones_1_REC0003047-000.jpg
07:12:27 <MrMobodies> they look a bit baggy on the cups
07:12:54 <MrMobodies> that looks like a good one too
07:13:09 <MrMobodies> it full of screws
07:14:23 <MrMobodies> Just found a thread that is Dave Jones birthday?
07:14:32 <Ysjoelfir> the DT770 is a reference class headphone from the time
07:14:38 <Ysjoelfir> is it?
07:14:46 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/daves-next-birthday-present/
07:15:02 <MrMobodies> oh sorry *next*
07:17:04 <MrMobodies> on Amazon reviews
07:17:05 <MrMobodies> https://www.amazon.co.uk/beyerdynamic-770-PRO-Studio-Headphones/dp/B0016MNAAI/
07:17:24 <MrMobodies> only 7% 1 and 2 star so that is good
07:17:48 <rust_collector> arrrgh, what is yoo people doing?
07:17:51 <MrMobodies> 900 or so ratings
07:17:54 <rust_collector> audio stuff?
07:18:06 <MrMobodies> headphones
07:18:11 <rust_collector> NOOOO!!!!!!
07:18:14 <rust_collector> boohoo
07:18:16 <MrMobodies> oh
07:18:26 <Ysjoelfir> He had a terrible accident
07:18:30 <Ysjoelfir> I should have told you
07:19:01 <Ysjoelfir> it involved headphones, a cat and a piece of gammelost
07:19:12 <rust_collector> I have to go take a break.
07:19:24 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:19:37 <MrMobodies> an accident with a cat and a headpone
07:19:59 <Ysjoelfir> yeah. Rusty, do you want to tell him from your accident?
07:20:40 <rust_collector> uh, no, I want my break.
07:23:00 <rust_collector> why not use headphones like "simply put" on youtube has? they look pretty nice
07:26:21 <Ysjoelfir> I have a faible for old stuff :) thats why I like to experiment with old headphones
07:27:36 <rust_collector> "experiment"
07:27:42 <Ysjoelfir> my regular headphones are AKG K240 from the first series. they are comfortable as hell! and now I got the even older Telefunken TH900. not as comfy because of the worn out earpads. but they sound suprisingly great
07:29:11 <rust_collector> I think I had a pair sold as dual, but I an not completely sure about that. I think they said dual.
07:29:23 <MrMobodies> I once had an 80's philips metal one, they were a bit tinny and they broke. I'll see if I can find a picture
07:29:48 <rust_collector> good sound, but was pretty heavy and painful after a while. good times
07:32:23 <Lemon> well guys, I really cant wait to get my hands on the new stuff
07:32:26 <MrMobodies> Philps SBC 3160
07:32:26 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/ocZOEmj
07:33:01 <MrMobodies> I think that one was uncomfortable too but it was mostly metal
07:33:02 <rust_collector> https://youtu.be/_4VVq-ZZJhE?t=61
07:34:17 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D
07:34:24 <MrMobodies> what an interesting video. I am going for some tea and then I am going to watch it all the way
07:34:40 <rust_collector> he has a lot of interesting videos
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08:15:40 <rust_collector> I guess a frequency counter would be a good project... at least until you get a real one, and see how far off yours is
08:51:19 <DHess_US> A frequency counter is one of the more specialized instruments which are only required for a minority of applicaitons.
08:52:38 <coppice_> in the 70s a frequency counter was a core instrument in almost every lab. now most labs don't even have one
08:54:05 <DHess_US> they were more important in the past
08:54:41 <DHess_US> Especially universal counters for integrating (not slope) analog to digital converters.
08:55:08 <DHess_US> Many past counters produce an A/B output which can be directly read by a universal frequency counter.
08:55:15 <DHess_US> err, past ADCs.
08:55:31 <coppice_> I regularly have a need to check the accuracy of the frequency of a signal, and nobody seems to have a counter of any kind, high accuracy or not
08:55:36 <DHess_US> Back then you had to be clever to get a 4+ digit ADC.
08:56:34 <DHess_US> Even back then I only saw that for RF applications like radio repair and I had a dedicated portable frequency counter, really a microwave frequency counter, just for that.
08:57:34 <DHess_US> Universal counters usually have an option for that kind of work.
08:58:21 <DHess_US> For general use, I'd want a 100 MHz universal counter but it isn't suitable for RF work.
08:58:40 <DHess_US> Can use oscilloscope probes with it.
08:59:28 <DHess_US> Or plug the Arm input into the oscilloscope's Gate B output and you have a gated timer/counter which is very useful.
08:59:56 <DHess_US> Like a Tektronix 2247A, 2252, or 2236/2236A
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09:21:13 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 all
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18:39:22 <Lemon> morning bois
18:40:13 <steve30> hi
18:45:55 <Lemon> how its popin ?
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19:09:15 <Ysjoelfir> Civilisation? that sounds awful
19:09:28 <Lemon> people ? normality ? wow
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19:16:40 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Lemon :)
19:16:56 <Lemon> hey ! doing good ?
19:17:36 <Ysjoelfir> yes, thanks. you?
19:17:52 <Ysjoelfir> I got a package today with a new vintage headphone. those idiots just shoved it into a pizza carton oO
19:18:12 <Lemon> ho its ok my tooth are leaving me somewhat alone, and I'm quite happy about those last two purchases I made for the lab :>
19:18:22 <Lemon> wow wtf how did it fit ? :O
19:18:39 <Ysjoelfir> I took some pics. one sec
19:18:52 <Ysjoelfir> nice that your teeth are good today :)
19:19:00 <Ysjoelfir> I should go to the dentist, soon... meh
19:19:20 <Lemon> lets hope it will last ;> the dentist told me I got three to be removed, and probably a fourth as it is in bad shape
19:20:08 <Lemon> a few years of drugs, 10 of tobacco, coffee, lack of cleaning etc didnt help
19:20:44 <steve30> I sacked my last dental practice
19:21:29 <Ysjoelfir> I'm quite happy that none of those apply to me. ok, cleaning could be done a bit more thoroughly, like using.... those string things, but hey. I have bad teeth from my genes I think.
19:21:44 <Lemon> ive broke several ribs at once, multiple times foot toes, I've suffered withdrawals, but seriously theres nothing worse than toothache
19:22:24 <Lemon> the last time, I was seriously thinking about taking it out myself, as I couldn't find someone who would accept me
19:22:38 <Lemon> as here, if you suffer from your tooth, you take an appointement for 3-4 months later
19:22:47 <Ysjoelfir> Oo
19:22:48 <Ysjoelfir> wow
19:22:54 <Lemon> france really suck for this
19:23:00 <Lemon> not enough dentists
19:23:06 <Ysjoelfir> here you just call the dentist and get an appointment in around 2 days
19:23:27 <Lemon> for example yesterday, I called almost every dentist at 50km around me
19:23:36 <Lemon> most told me they can take me between may or june
19:24:18 <Ysjoelfir> but don't expect that from: psychiatrists, psychologists, dermathologists or.... muscle and bone specialists. those that work on back pain
19:24:26 <Ysjoelfir> wow
19:24:29 <Ysjoelfir> thats just awfull
19:24:32 <Lemon> hooo those ? 1 year sometimes xd
19:24:45 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, here too
19:25:14 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DBz0YxmdjZpVlRRJj_zxJ2Ku0Xo2ovXJ/view?usp=sharing
19:25:28 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DAV3wiUpC4xeQ6u1bNb5WVHtluAxGSm-/view?usp=sharing
19:25:29 <Lemon> wtf they aint even tryin
19:25:44 <Lemon> I'd get refunded, or tell that I never got it
19:25:46 <Ysjoelfir> as I said - took a pizza carton and shoved it in
19:25:46 <Lemon> gahh
19:26:03 <Ysjoelfir> they even wrapped it in the pizza plastic wrap
19:26:21 <Lemon> no respect at all... the item itself is fine ?
19:26:30 <Ysjoelfir> oh, but they also shoved a thin additional piece of carton into it
19:26:31 <Lemon> I hope my psu will come in good shape
19:26:34 <Lemon> its pretty heavy
19:27:00 <Ysjoelfir> actually yes, from the looks of it. I don't have a DIN to 6.3mm jack adapter at hand, so I can't try them out, but they look actually pretty food
19:27:01 <Ysjoelfir> *good
19:27:16 <Lemon> thats nice !
19:27:32 <Lemon> I need to find some cables
19:27:42 <Ysjoelfir> well, at worst I would have lost 1€ for the headphones and 7 for the shipping
19:27:44 <Lemon> banana to banana, some crocodile clips of quality etc
19:27:51 <Lemon> 1 euro ? lol
19:28:06 <Ysjoelfir> yeah. bad photos, no model number anywhere to be seen
19:28:07 <Lemon> when shipping is 700% more expensive :>
19:28:17 <Ysjoelfir> the text was just "vintage headphones. work."
19:28:27 <Lemon> show me show me !
19:28:41 <Ysjoelfir> I was intrigued that they had some sort of control knobs on each earpiece, so I gave it a shot
19:29:05 <Ysjoelfir> wait a sec, I take some photos when the boss leaves the development apartment again^^
19:29:06 <Lemon> sometimes theres insane offers by peeps that dont know what they are selling
19:29:16 <Lemon> like that fluke 45 in perfect condition for 30 euros that I missed by 2 hours...
19:29:46 <Ysjoelfir> well, this one isn't anything special I guess. but I can't find anything about it either. It's a vivanco 8260
19:29:58 <Lemon> never heard of it !
19:30:11 <Ysjoelfir> same here
19:30:19 <Lemon> theres a pair of iems that I love
19:30:22 <Ysjoelfir> As I said, just a shot in the blue, they looked interesting
19:30:33 <Lemon> final audio e-3000, they are cheap, really small so you just forget them, and damn sounds nice for the price
19:31:18 <Ysjoelfir> I can't wear those ear plug things, they always pop out of my ears
19:31:30 <Lemon> ho trust me, those are a god sent !
19:31:36 <Lemon> I can even sleep on my side with them
19:31:44 <Lemon> and I'm really picky about that
19:31:59 <Lemon> also they are vented, so no pressure
19:32:33 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds interesting. but otoh, if I go to sleep, I just ask the Alexa thing to make some noise or switch on the tube radio in the sleeping room
19:32:53 <Lemon> haha yeah thats a good way, I like some rain noises sometimes
19:32:59 <Lemon> to cover the fucking neighboor
19:33:38 <Ysjoelfir> correct :) I enjoy rain noise, too.
19:33:57 <Lemon> ho I just remembered that I need to find some ncie side cutters !
19:34:10 <Lemon> Im using a leatherman micra, which isnt good for it
19:38:00 <Ysjoelfir> I use an old one from my father. don't know what it actually is
19:38:54 <Lemon> sadly mine broke :/ it served my father for decades
19:43:44 <Halcyon> Evening all
19:43:54 <Lemon> hey !
19:44:25 <Halcyon> What's happening?
19:44:46 <Lemon> just woke up, eating some cereals, looking at test gear :>
19:44:50 <Lemon> and you ?
19:44:54 <steve30> hi Halcyon
19:44:54 <Halcyon> Just got home from work
19:44:57 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
19:45:28 <steve30> I'm just looking at analogue telephone adaptors
19:48:10 <Halcyon> Oh nice
19:50:29 <Lemon> my tek scope makes more noise than my workstation
19:50:38 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Halcyon
19:51:01 <Ysjoelfir> I was looking at the pizza carton my headphones came in
19:51:19 <Halcyon> Mmm ?
19:52:26 <Ysjoelfir> [09:25:14] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DBz0YxmdjZpVlRRJj_zxJ2Ku0Xo2ovXJ/view?usp=sharing
19:52:26 <Ysjoelfir> [09:25:28] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DAV3wiUpC4xeQ6u1bNb5WVHtluAxGSm-/view?usp=sharing
19:52:27 <Ysjoelfir> take a look
19:52:35 * Ampera stabs Halcyon
19:52:46 <Halcyon> Oh, it's literally a pizza box!
19:52:48 <Halcyon> Hahah
19:52:49 <Ysjoelfir> jep
19:52:52 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera, love you too
19:53:02 <Ampera> I had pizza for dinner last night actually
19:53:06 <Ampera> I might go upstairs and grab some more
19:53:16 <Halcyon> I was going to make stir fry for dinner, but I feel like pizza now
19:53:16 * steve30 curls up next to Halcyon
19:53:42 * Halcyon scritches Steve behind the ears
19:53:55 * steve30 purrs
19:55:10 <Ysjoelfir> So Lemon, the boss is gone, I took some pics of those headphones for you
19:55:34 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DNLDxPmZLT0jUUzw2MwgP-0ivvtprdfr/view?usp=sharing
19:55:47 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DLkV_fOT_8ZuqpxN5owwmvG2iqny0YVT/view?usp=sharing
19:55:59 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DI1bmRNpGh_TB4W4JjGjIJf00OVMpxx4/view?usp=sharing
19:56:08 <Lemon> hoo thanks ! they surely look interesting, especially for the price haha
19:56:20 <Lemon> I like the stereo mono switch
19:56:26 <Lemon> looks like they were made for monitoring
19:56:56 <Ysjoelfir> I guess so. Vivanco was always a reselling manufacturer, IIRC they never built anything by themselves
19:57:13 <Ysjoelfir> back in the time the stuff was rather good quality, nowadays it's more like.... meh.
19:57:34 <Ysjoelfir> So maybe there is a ok-ish manufacturer inside it, who knows.
19:59:40 <Ysjoelfir> And Halcyon - I should drink more often. I was rather drunk after just two glasses of that wine yesterday :X
19:59:46 <Halcyon> Hahaha
20:00:00 <Halcyon> Yeh, wine is quite alcoholic compared to beer etc...
20:01:33 <Halcyon> I'm actually having a red wine now
20:01:35 <Halcyon> It's yummy
20:01:45 <Ysjoelfir> I just don't drink at all most of the time. If I do then at partys. and then it's ok to be drunk. ^^
20:01:54 <Halcyon> Heh
20:02:07 <Halcyon> I prefer to be drunk in my own home, so I can climb into bed whenever I want
20:02:07 <Ysjoelfir> I enjoyed that medium dry thing actually quite a lot after the first two sips
20:02:09 <Ampera> Halcyon, PMs
20:02:38 <Ysjoelfir> at first there were memories of bad taste, but after they were gone and I got more open it was rather pleasant
20:03:44 <Halcyon> Yeh red wines especially taste VERY different after you expose them to air for a while. Some are even almost undrinkable straight away after opening but open up to a rather nice drop.
20:04:11 <Lemon> yeah give it a few hours before drinking it
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20:05:24 <Halcyon> Few hours is a bit much, just pour a glass, that will introduce air into the bottle. Even after 10 minutes there will be significant change.
20:05:29 <Ampera> ZNCs, wonderful inventions them
20:05:30 <Ysjoelfir> so do you store the bottle open? or just wait a few minutes with it in the glass before drinking?
20:05:57 <Lemon> hmmm for the first time I open it, usually I let it 2-3 hours, I found it to be the optimal time
20:06:12 <Lemon> but sure, 30 minutes is better than nothing sometimes
20:06:33 <Halcyon> If you're planning to drink the bottle, leaving it open is fine. If you're planning to store it (say for a few days), close the lid and keep it in the fridge.
20:06:46 <Ysjoelfir> ok. then I did the right thing^^
20:06:49 <Halcyon> Drink within 2-4 days normally. After that, it starts to taste vinegary.
20:06:49 <Lemon> in the fridge ? :O
20:07:00 <Halcyon> Yep, I wouldn't leave an open wine out
20:07:13 <Halcyon> Heat expedites the oxidation process
20:07:17 <Lemon> well I must say I have a place in my house that is at around 12 degrees
20:07:20 <Lemon> which is perfect
20:07:28 <Halcyon> Sure, for cellaring
20:07:41 <Halcyon> But once you get air into that bottle, it will start to turn quite quickly
20:07:50 <Lemon> yeah thats true
20:07:59 <Lemon> I try to drink it in less than two days
20:07:59 <Halcyon> The fridge slows it down, and me personally, I actually like a chilled red
20:08:09 <Halcyon> It doesn't stay "too cold" for too long once you pour a glass
20:08:19 <Lemon> ha well its a matter of taste, personnally I dont like it
20:08:25 <Halcyon> Oh absolutely
20:08:41 <Halcyon> I have a friend who insists on drinking wine at room temperature (which here at the moment is about 26 degrees C.
20:08:47 <Lemon> I feel it misses some taste when chilled
20:08:53 <Halcyon> Today I left the AC on at home at 24 degrees because it was hot.
20:08:58 <Lemon> haaa too hot
20:09:13 <Halcyon> Lemon, oh it absolutely does. It tends to mute some of the flavours.
20:10:10 <Halcyon> But treat it like an experiment, especially if you're new to wine. Wine is interesting to me because it can take on completely different taste depending on temperature and how long since it has been opened. It's exciting to explore that.
20:10:13 <Lemon> it can be good for cheapos :>
20:10:26 <Lemon> yeah thats totally true
20:10:42 <Halcyon> And of course, every varietal, vintage, blend and brand are different
20:10:43 <Lemon> I have some gamay that I plan to drink this weekend
20:11:06 <Halcyon> You could have an outstanding year and buy the same wine another year and it's totally different.
20:11:30 <Halcyon> Once year we had bushfires near certain vineyards, the wines took on a smokey flavour.
20:11:55 <Lemon> thats so impressive
20:12:01 <Lemon> I love those small things
20:12:08 <Halcyon> Some saw it as a flaw, others didn't mind it
20:12:10 <Lemon> how do you name someone working with wines ?
20:12:13 <Lemon> a specialist
20:12:18 <Lemon> un oenologue in french
20:12:32 <Halcyon> I guess technically they would be Viticulurists
20:12:37 <Lemon> my aunt was one, but sadly she lives in nez zealand
20:12:40 <Halcyon> They are people who produce grapes
20:12:46 <Halcyon> But "Wine Maker" is quite common
20:12:49 <Lemon> ha nono, people who drink it
20:12:52 <Halcyon> Oh
20:12:55 <Lemon> well, you know to study it
20:13:03 <Halcyon> Sommelier
20:13:14 <Ysjoelfir> In Germany we actually use the exact same word
20:13:23 <Lemon> oenologist !
20:13:54 <Halcyon> Ahh there you go
20:13:56 <Halcyon> I learnt something
20:14:11 <Lemon> I saw her once when I was 4 :>
20:14:18 <Lemon> not really the good time to talk about wine haha
20:14:23 <Halcyon> Hah
20:15:10 <Halcyon> Some of our universities actually have their own wineries
20:15:23 <Halcyon> You can buy the ones made by students
20:16:04 <Halcyon> https://about.csu.edu.au/services-facilities/food-wine
20:16:33 <Lemon> ho thats interesting !
20:16:39 <Lemon> on another subject
20:16:47 <Lemon> I'm really happy we found our missing cat
20:16:56 <Lemon> he's starting to find his marks
20:17:06 <Lemon> 'chaussette'
20:17:16 <Ysjoelfir> we made wine in chemistry class. but from the cheapest tetra pack grape juice, not from real grapes^^
20:17:36 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Sounds like you made Passion Pop :P
20:18:19 <Halcyon> It's the cheapest, nastiest crap every. Under $5 per bottle
20:19:14 <Ysjoelfir> Sounds like it^^ but it wasn't carbonated
20:19:38 <Ysjoelfir> I stored my bottle of that stuff well in the dark, used a fresh cork and even sealed it with wax
20:19:51 <Halcyon> Fancy
20:20:05 <Ysjoelfir> 15 years later I wanted to try it. It was vinegar. a very nasty vinegar :X
20:20:06 <Halcyon> Lemon: I'm more of a dog/bird person
20:20:11 <Halcyon> Hahah
20:20:15 <Halcyon> No surprises there
20:20:31 <Lemon> we do have a doggo too ! 14 y/o :>
20:20:37 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQKEgT6FFM
20:20:41 <Ysjoelfir> I hoped for it to get better over time :D
20:20:44 <Lemon> I like birds, but I'm so sad when I see them in cages
20:20:54 <steve30> My grandfather still has bottles of wine which he made in the early 1990s. No idea if they are any good still.
20:21:17 <Halcyon> Unless they were excellent wines and stored properly, it's unlikely
20:21:23 <Lemon> yeah
20:21:30 <Lemon> white wine can be kept longer I believe
20:21:43 <Lemon> but 30 years starts to be the limit
20:21:44 <Halcyon> Usually whites keep less than reds
20:21:53 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, I recently opened a bottle of cherry my grandma got for her wedding. THAT stuff was great for cooking!
20:21:55 <Lemon> ho you are sure ? I thought it was the opposite
20:22:01 <Halcyon> Only about 10-20% of wines can be cellared
20:22:43 <Lemon> ho ok thats good to know
20:22:44 <Halcyon> Yep, reds generally last longer (10-20 years if they are good)
20:22:58 <Halcyon> But there are so many factors involved
20:23:01 <Lemon> and about power supplies, which temperature is the best
20:23:04 <Halcyon> Some whites have lasted that long
20:23:08 <Lemon> can they be cellared ? :>
20:23:28 <Halcyon> Hahah I don't think they get better with age, otherwise my Commodore PSU's would be amazing :P
20:23:39 <Ysjoelfir> No. The Caps will become vinegar after some years :D
20:23:53 <Lemon> hehe :> Ima bit sad because my father had like 3 c64, they were probably faulty
20:23:56 <Lemon> but I cant find them
20:24:44 <Halcyon> :(
20:24:53 <Halcyon> If you ever do, check the power supply voltages
20:24:55 <Lemon> so much stuff disappared
20:25:13 <Halcyon> They had a tendency to overheat and pump 12 volts directly down the 5v rail
20:25:26 <Lemon> ive heard about that yeah
20:25:52 <Lemon> a few years ago it was worthless
20:26:00 <Lemon> now, if you want a decent one, you gotta shell a lot
20:26:08 <Halcyon> Yup
20:26:16 <Halcyon> Vintage computer is quite a large trade
20:26:20 <Halcyon> I have one C64 here which works
20:27:12 * steve30 needs coffee
20:27:14 <Lemon> keep it preciously !
20:27:19 <Lemon> alright im going for a nap
20:27:25 <Halcyon> Have fun :)
20:27:29 <Lemon> I'll see y'all in a few :>
20:27:41 <Halcyon> I'm going to go start dinner
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20:45:50 <Ysjoelfir> I'm searching for resistors.
20:46:15 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKGWqzZryDk
20:46:17 <Ampera> Good night.
20:46:30 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 ampera
20:56:25 <coppice_> resistance is futile
21:58:57 <Halcyon> Night Ampera
21:59:00 <Halcyon> That's a nice song :)
22:02:29 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
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22:11:29 <K> hello
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22:49:46 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDU40eUcTj0 a catchy little diddy to enjoy after the latest veritasium
22:49:57 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJcsL7vyrk said veritasium
22:52:10 <coppice_> I remember when Mandelbrot first published, and we all tried coding up a solution, making the best of the crappy graphics of the day. It seems so far away now,
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22:54:31 <Lemon> gahhh I need more sleep !
22:54:40 <Halcyon> I should already be in bed
22:54:59 <T3sl4> i recall the classic story, a guy stole spare CPU time on a mainframe to plot the set, stored in RLE form i believe, and eventually outputted via line printer naturally
22:55:09 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon a Lemon
22:55:21 <Halcyon> With Vodka and Soda water please
22:55:25 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/boncSvag.jpg
22:55:41 <Lemon> how tough are ya
22:56:08 <Halcyon> I'm tough, except when I'm not :)
22:56:17 <Halcyon> I can eat more chilli than anyone I knw
22:56:18 <Lemon> ho just like me !
22:56:19 <Halcyon> know
22:56:26 <Lemon> ha not like me
22:56:39 <Halcyon> Also, anal sex :P
22:56:45 <Lemon> but I can feed myself with crackers for weeks
22:59:03 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to bed
22:59:05 <Halcyon> Night guys
22:59:13 <Lemon> night :>
23:07:45 <hsn93> hey
23:09:18 <hsn93> T3sl4 can i ask quick question
23:09:32 <T3sl4> hi hsn93
23:10:06 <hsn93> yesterday i was looking at intresting info of (red led) forward leakage current ..
23:10:39 <hsn93> i think related to bob pease
23:11:14 <hsn93> i wounder if these (leds) are being used to clamp and protect high precision adc channels ?
23:11:41 <hsn93> or is it just a cool info ..
23:13:04 <T3sl4> these?
23:13:17 <T3sl4> could be, i guess
23:15:09 <hsn93> because i was like (ok but what makes this info reliable) maybe (yellow led different package will have high leakage , they dont specify this info anyway) !!
23:18:40 <T3sl4> also leakage varies with ambient light, which could be inconvenient
23:23:26 <hsn93> unless they pot the thing and make it in dark box ?
23:23:56 <T3sl4> it's not a huge amount, on the order of single uA's in daylight
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