// #eevblog — 2020-01-09
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00:22:33 <Ysjoelfir> I want a thank you gift too :O
00:38:10 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
01:06:25 <Ysjoelfir> Yay :3
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01:45:48 <hsn> @t3sl4 (tmoranwms) looks like ransomware email :D
01:48:11 <T3sl4> ah, cheers :)
01:50:29 <K> so, hows the ransom business goin, T3sl4?
01:50:49 <T3sl4> if i had a dollar for every time someone asked me that
01:50:53 <T3sl4> i'd have to ransom them
02:06:16 <hsn> :D
02:35:25 <rust_collector> hola, how are you people who are not on vacation doing?
02:36:56 <K> SPLENDID
02:37:33 <rust_collector> hmm, good for you
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03:58:47 <Ampera> Halcyon missed me by like 15 minutes or so
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04:32:31 * Ysjoelfir returned from work
04:32:51 * rust_collector never went to work today
04:32:55 * Ysjoelfir now has to disassemble the christmas decoration.
04:33:38 <rust_collector> "the" christmas decoration
04:33:57 <rust_collector> there is only one?
04:36:09 <K> ooh look there, mr rich man, with multiple decorations!
04:36:34 <rust_collector> if you replace rich with married...
04:39:09 <K> ah.
04:44:38 <Ysjoelfir> xD
04:44:50 <Ysjoelfir> Ok, there are... some.... more.... many decorations
04:45:00 <K> i was about to say "my condolances", but maybe it is not so bad
04:45:26 <rust_collector> or maybe it is
04:45:35 <K> in that case -
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05:08:19 <rust_collector> ok, so that was dinner
05:08:45 <rust_collector> I guess there are some upsides to this married thing too
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05:14:29 <Ysjoelfir> half way done. and hungry. I guess I will order food online.
05:15:20 <rust_collector> yay ebay
05:15:37 <Ysjoelfir> naaa, not that kind of food
05:15:54 <Ysjoelfir> I already had an opportunity to eat a rotten tomato today
05:16:36 <rust_collector> ok, just hate noodles....
05:19:36 <Ysjoelfir> I like noodles, but I guess today there will be Döner
05:20:05 <rust_collector> that is not a bad idea
05:20:16 <rust_collector> proper german food
05:21:31 <rust_collector> I found a nice kebab shop somewhere in köln, I was lost, and had, and still do not know where it was. but they had awesome babs
05:24:35 <Ysjoelfir> Sadly here in Frankfurt the ordered food is damn pricey. I have to order for 19€ (should be around 190 NOK?) just to get the minimum amount for delivery...
05:24:52 <Ysjoelfir> which is rather much for two people
05:25:37 <rust_collector> I think we have ordered food twice, and that was just pizza
05:25:56 <rust_collector> and never while living in this place.
05:32:29 <Ysjoelfir> wow... we order around twice per month
05:33:04 <Ysjoelfir> Is it true that many norwegians eat Tacos on fridays?
05:34:11 <rust_collector> well, yes, it used to be taco-thursday, but it has moved to friday, and pizza friday has moved to saturday, and the fish stuff in on tuesdays
05:38:46 <rust_collector> I have banned tacos, here, so they tend to eat that when I am away
05:39:04 <Ysjoelfir> xD why did you do that? I like tacos.
05:39:29 <Ysjoelfir> And I liked Grandiosa. kinda sad that they sell those not in germany
05:39:59 <rust_collector> I used to like tacos, but then the wife got pregnant, and started to eat tacos all the time, so I am borderline allergic to it now
05:40:26 <rust_collector> yeah, grandiosa is... not bad, for a frozen prefab "food"
05:48:40 <rust_collector> I guess you do not get it down there, because we banned lidl
05:51:53 <Ampera> pizza is on the deus today.
05:58:02 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, ok, i understand. :S why did you ban lidl?
05:58:59 <rust_collector> meh, just because it had cheap stuff, and room to roll a shopping trolley around, and... they had colors
05:59:13 <rust_collector> we don't like that stuff.
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05:59:20 <Ysjoelfir> xD
05:59:48 <rust_collector> we want less stuff, less space, and dark and more dark
06:01:19 <rust_collector> just an isle of frozen pizza, a fridge with milk, a shelf of cheap nasty bread, and an isle or two of chocolate and stuff
06:04:59 <Ysjoelfir> I actually enjoyed the small Rema1000 and Kiwi markets. way more enjoyable than the overcrowded malls here
06:05:26 <rust_collector> oh yes, malls are pretty crap
06:07:53 <rust_collector> when you are out there in nowhere, you can ask the shops to get stuff for you, which is nice. in the larger shops in the city, they only do that for expensive stuff they do not want to throw away, if it does not sell.
06:09:14 <rust_collector> but, you can ask a small store if they can get a... almost anything, and they probably can, or they will tell you uncle Mmbupu has those, and he lives over there (pointing)
06:15:23 <Ysjoelfir> That doesn't sound to bad?
06:15:50 <rust_collector> no, it is the good part of living out in nowhere
06:16:13 <rust_collector> people are much easier to deal with, in many ways
06:16:23 <rust_collector> well, imo
06:16:35 <Ysjoelfir> like you told yesterday with the farmers and their sheep? :D
06:17:17 <Ysjoelfir> especially those on your bumper
06:17:25 <rust_collector> yeah, like that, if you take the bits of sheep off the bumper before you see them, they are very nice and helpful
06:17:53 <rust_collector> nono, don't worry, we will meet you over there with a tractor, it is no problem
06:18:32 <rust_collector> we just want to bring you to grandma, she has not seen a person from outside the village since the war
06:18:36 <rust_collector> the first war
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06:22:58 <Ysjoelfir> Nice :D
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06:43:10 <Halcyon> Morning all
06:43:17 <rust_collector> mmhm
06:48:37 <Ampera> Halcyon!
06:49:12 * Ampera pokes Halcyon with a spork
06:50:16 <Ampera> :/
06:51:06 <rust_collector> These people on the underside of the world tend to get offended by sporks
06:51:25 <Ysjoelfir> good evening Halcyon and Ampera :D
06:51:40 <Ampera> evening?
06:51:44 <Ampera> it's 2:51PM
06:51:45 <Ampera> fix your clock
06:52:08 <Ysjoelfir> you missed a zero. its 2051 here :)
06:52:28 <Ampera> wow, it's still 2020 here
06:52:37 <rust_collector> you are soooo 2020
06:52:51 * Ampera offers rust_collector a bowl of rust
06:53:12 <rust_collector> hey, thanks, I will put that on the shelf
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06:59:02 <Ysjoelfir> Finally done with the anti-decoration thing :D
06:59:06 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/17514dvwsvnmHhqw_i5j18j_yB_-7g4XL/view?usp=sharing
06:59:36 <rust_collector> nice christmas satans
07:08:35 <Ysjoelfir> thanks :P I would have thought that you are more interested in the old (but not rusty) lamp than the satans ;)
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07:09:32 <rust_collector> it is just an old virgins fat burner, isn't it?
07:13:15 <Ysjoelfir> Its a Feuerhand 201 Hot Blast lantern from between 1931 and 41.:)
07:13:40 <rust_collector> oh really now....
07:13:45 <rust_collector> well, that is nice
07:13:51 <Ampera> blast me hot daddy
07:14:32 <Ysjoelfir> it is :)
07:14:36 <Ysjoelfir> rawr Ampera :P
07:15:07 <Ampera> I just took 5 pills dry
07:15:10 <Ampera> fite me
07:15:35 <Ysjoelfir> I only took one today.
07:15:46 <Ampera> 2x aspirin 2x paracetamol 1x caffeine
07:15:54 <Ampera> in total almost 2000mg of pill
07:15:58 <rust_collector> I have only had one cup of crappy coffee today
07:16:56 <rust_collector> I usually just use ibuprofen. it tends to work best for my issues.
07:17:04 <Ysjoelfir> I had a cup of chai tea and one pill of citalopram 10mg :S
07:17:11 <Ampera> I find ibuprofen doesn't work
07:17:23 <rust_collector> well, I guess you have a different issue
07:17:25 <Ampera> aspirin, paracetamol, and caffeine is a known cocktail and it works exceedingly well
07:17:44 <Ampera> my issue is I need to get a large grill up a flight of stairs in about 30 minutes
07:17:57 <Ampera> and I also have a skinned knee, but that's unrelated
07:18:27 <Ampera> I built my first skateboard and I was learning how to roll
07:18:31 <rust_collector> so, you need a cocaine and amphetamine mix, not that stuff
07:18:50 <Ampera> you jest, but this genuinely increases my ability to lift large objects
07:19:07 <Ampera> I found that it did accidentally while taking some for a different issue, and then taking out air conditioners the same day
07:19:21 <Ampera> to which, my surprise, I was strong enough to pick up and chuck a large samsung aircon
07:19:23 <rust_collector> no I don't, I used to do actual work
07:19:59 <Ampera> what do you do now?
07:20:14 <rust_collector> meh, I just drive around delivering pallets of stuff
07:20:26 <Ampera> sounds fun
07:20:32 <rust_collector> it is not bad
07:21:12 <rust_collector> when I did removals moving and storage stuff, I did something closer to work
07:34:39 <Ysjoelfir> What are you guys doing atm?
07:35:33 <rust_collector> listening to muzak, reading stories from the old days of confusers
07:37:23 <Ysjoelfir> sounds nice :) im struggling if i should start a nice game this evening
07:37:56 <rust_collector> no, you should not. maybe if it is cards or a board game.
07:39:56 <Ysjoelfir> I was thinking about a PC game. ever heard of the banner saga?
07:40:02 <rust_collector> no
07:40:23 <rust_collector> I was also thinking about a pc game, and that is why I said no, you should not
07:42:09 <Ysjoelfir> its a nice game with a rather tragic story. https://store.steampowered.com/app/237990/The_Banner_Saga/
07:42:45 <Ysjoelfir> If I had a pinball machine I would love to use that right now. that would be cool.
07:45:17 <rust_collector> paintball machine... tht would be cool
07:46:44 <Ysjoelfir> wouldn't that hurt?
07:46:50 <rust_collector> probably
07:46:54 <Ysjoelfir> a machine that bombards you with paintballs?
07:47:04 <rust_collector> at least now that it is cold
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07:57:44 <rust_collector> ok, time for a nap. good night, and other time for Ampera
07:58:39 <Ysjoelfir> gn8
07:58:46 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOQS0nrcBuw
08:33:56 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 all
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11:49:19 <rust_collector> morning?
11:58:11 <steve30000> hi
11:58:31 <rust_collector> oh hey!
11:59:04 <rust_collector> how are things out there on the island?
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12:00:51 <steve30> Nice yesterday, but it started raining tonight
12:01:51 <rust_collector> we got a lot of wind yesterday, and a bit today, did that come from you?
12:02:04 <steve30> could have done
12:02:39 <rust_collector> It has that british feel to it.
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13:50:32 <level42> Is anyone here?
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13:54:32 <steve30> nope
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17:02:11 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Bummer, beach is packed. https://t.co/9RXPq9G7mq
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18:34:12 <Ysjoelfir> Heihei all
18:48:22 <Ampera> I've gotten bored and have decided to write a guide on setting up a PXE server
18:48:31 <Ampera> with instructions for Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD
18:49:01 <Ampera> In other news, Windows is dragging its ass and losing its shit.
18:49:28 <Ampera> classic nondescript background service hanging
19:00:39 <Ysjoelfir> I have no Idea what you are talking about :D Sounds very... software-ish.
19:22:00 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, network booting
19:22:20 <Ampera> so you can load a computer's operating system off another computer via the network instead of needing a boot device
19:22:37 <Ampera> Currently bumbling my way through WDS
19:27:22 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds usefull :)
19:33:18 <Ampera> It is, but it's also a minor pain in the ass
19:33:25 <Ampera> at least if you use Windows services to do it :P
19:33:44 * Ampera sporks Halcyon with a porky spork
19:46:06 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to use Linux at home, but I cant get used to it. somehow it seems very limited
19:53:34 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, the issue is that when many people use Linux they throw Ubuntu on a box and call it a day.
19:53:58 <Ampera> Linux and Windows are distinctly different operating systems, with different design and usage philosophies, even different design and usage philosophies within different distributions of Linux.
19:54:47 <Ampera> The point being, Linux is a complicated peice of software which can be immensely powerful, but requires time and effort to learn how to use.
19:55:32 <Ampera> Attempts to round the corners and make it cushier have gotten better in recent years, but much of the appeal for super users is with the inner workings that don't tend to get abstracted so well
19:58:01 <Ysjoelfir> I always look at some of my workmates that use linux machines, how damn fast and effective they can work, using the shell and many other nice things like multiple desktops and stuff like that. It looks so much smoother than working on win.
20:00:08 <Ampera> In general, Linux's biggest party trick is being (possible to be made, and in general) lighter and faster than Windows.
20:00:46 <Ampera> There are also almost always options for different aspects of your system, like graphcial environments and programs.
20:02:02 <Ampera> If you do want to get into Linux, how I got started was by using Arch Linux. It's one of the best documented distributions available, but it also comes in a barebones form, which requires you to understand the individual parts of the OS.
20:02:40 <Ampera> Treat it as a hobby and experiments, don't try to get work out of it, but try to do interesting things with it.
20:03:00 <Ysjoelfir> I have thought about using dual boot configurations for quite some time. maybe I should finally try that.
20:03:25 <Ysjoelfir> would also be quite usefull for my fileserver... runs right now on win server 2k3 :X
20:03:45 <Ampera> I use Arch Linux and FreeBSD environments.
20:03:59 <Ampera> For example, I am using an Arch Linux tablet to ssh into a FreeBSD server which runs my IRC client and ZNC
20:04:21 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't even know that linux tablets are a thing
20:04:58 <Ysjoelfir> I think that could be a nice way to start since I always use my (android) tablet in bed before going to sleep. why not using one with a real linux on it to fiddle around a bit
20:05:13 <hsn> Ampera: thats my t-shirt https://snipboard.io/bd3JhG.jpg
20:05:24 <Ampera> lol
20:05:28 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
20:05:33 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
20:05:35 <Ampera> how do
20:05:38 <Halcyon> *hugs*
20:05:41 <Halcyon> Not too bad, yourself?
20:05:49 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, this is a PC compatible (x86) tablet
20:05:54 <Ampera> a Surface Pro 3 to be specific
20:05:59 <Ampera> Alright, I have pictures of things to show you
20:06:21 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148449068903825408/664349140980858890/IMG_20200107_164024.png
20:06:28 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148449068903825408/664349273114279946/IMG_20200107_164058.png
20:06:38 <Ampera> I built a skateboard :)
20:06:47 <Halcyon> That looks really good
20:06:56 <Halcyon> Of course Minou is there
20:07:00 <Ampera> yeee
20:07:05 <Ampera> He's always in the middle of everything.
20:07:17 <Ampera> This is my first ever skateboard, I've never touched one until building this one.
20:07:37 <Ampera> I put good money into it too, it cost 187 USD (272 AUD)
20:07:38 <hsn> dat cat wants to skate
20:07:55 <Ysjoelfir> that looks realy nice :D good job!
20:08:17 <Halcyon> Do you know how to use it?
20:08:18 <Halcyon> :P
20:08:25 <Ampera> The cat did actually try to climb onto the skateboard, but didn't enjoy that it was rolling around beneath him
20:08:39 <Ampera> Halcyon, I was learning a bit yesterday.
20:08:53 <Ampera> It's like learning to ride a bike again, figure out balance, how to control it, build it up gradually
20:09:01 <Halcyon> Nice :)
20:09:25 <Ampera> In other news I've gotten bored and want to use my forum for something, so I am working on writing a guide on how to setup a PXE server
20:09:35 <Ampera> with instructions for Windows, Linux, and FreeBSD TFTP options
20:09:42 <Halcyon> Nice :)
20:09:46 <Halcyon> That would actually come in handy for me
20:10:15 <Ampera> I was working on the Windows instructions first, and I've got those almost done.
20:10:36 <Ampera> Then I need to do Linux and FreeBSD, which should be pretty easy, and then I need to write on how to setup pxelinux
20:11:54 <steve30> hi
20:11:59 <Ampera> hi steve30
20:12:03 <Ampera> how do
20:13:38 * steve30 coffees
20:13:41 <Ampera> Anyways, Halcyon, I'm gonna fall asleep, see you in 24 hours or so
20:13:44 <Ampera> good night
20:14:20 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 ampera
20:15:24 <Halcyon> Night mate
20:18:27 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
20:19:16 <Halcyon> :)
20:22:14 <steve30> Just had an email about being 30 weeks pregnant. Strangely the last one was week 27. Don't know what happened to week 28 & 29.
20:24:03 <Ysjoelfir> Thats fascinating Oo
20:24:13 <Ysjoelfir> you just invented time travel
20:24:18 <Halcyon> Oh congrats !
20:24:19 <Halcyon> :P
20:24:57 <Ysjoelfir> But you get interesting mails... I only get those that tell me that my penis is to small..
20:25:33 <Halcyon> So... going by what's happening here, it's NOT small?
20:25:40 <steve30> Haven't had one of those for a while. I've had a few about snoring though.
20:25:57 <Halcyon> Who do you guys use for email? I get maybe 5 spam emails a year
20:26:04 <Ysjoelfir> I would say its rather normal?
20:26:30 <Ysjoelfir> My gmail adress got cought in a data leak from a rather big company, since then I get around 2 per week.
20:26:40 <Halcyon> Oh poop
20:26:50 <Ysjoelfir> on all my other adresses... i would say, 5 per year fits
20:27:07 <steve30> This is on my alternative gmail account. I reckon someone might have signed it up onto this pregnancy mailing list in error.
20:27:07 <Ysjoelfir> its not that bad. i use that gmail thing only for irrelevant stuff
20:27:55 <steve30> My main gmail gets umpteen spams per day. My stevecoates.net address sometimes gets spam, but its periodic.
20:27:55 <Ysjoelfir> yesterday someone tried vigorously (?) to enter my ancient world of warcraft account
20:28:42 <Ysjoelfir> I got around 20 password reset requests and ~40 of those security request numbers from blizzard in 10 minutes. somehow annoying.
20:31:33 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
20:32:10 * hsn grrrrr
20:32:35 <Ysjoelfir> whats up hsn?
20:33:26 <hsn> everything is cool
20:33:31 <hsn> u reminded me ..
20:33:47 <hsn> i got wierd message from instagram that someone logged in into my account
20:33:53 <hsn> a week ago
20:34:19 <Ysjoelfir> fun fact: you don't have an instagram acc?
20:34:51 <hsn> hehe no no i do ,, but i didnt believe the message i dont know why
20:36:05 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/S60cB8.jpg
20:37:15 <Ysjoelfir> so you dont usually log in from india at 6:02?
20:37:27 <hsn> :D and (CHROME) !
20:37:41 <Ysjoelfir> <-- likes chrome :D
20:37:42 <hsn> i just wanted to know, how ..
20:38:19 <hsn> did he brute force instagram, did he installed malware into my phone, pc ?
20:39:00 <hsn> bcz appreantly the ads on android are full of crap malware installers
20:39:50 <Ysjoelfir> thank god I don't use any service on my phone except whatsapp :X
20:42:43 <Halcyon> Why would you click on an ad hsn?
20:43:24 <hsn> i dont click on ad. i use apps that include ads. usually the programmer is including an ad sdk to his application
20:44:10 <Halcyon> Mmm yes, but that in itself won't execute malware or get your password
20:44:20 <hsn> that sdk bypasses google play security and then u hear the news of (many devices affected by a fammous app) ..
20:44:42 <hsn> yeah but if that ad acted as downloader to a trojan ?
20:45:46 <Halcyon> That's not how ads work
20:46:05 <Halcyon> And applications can't simply download content without your approval
20:46:15 <Halcyon> They are sandboxed
20:46:38 <hsn> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49495767
20:47:25 <Halcyon> That doesn't explain anything
20:48:54 <hsn> what do u mean
20:49:08 <Halcyon> It's a news article with no technical details
20:50:55 <Halcyon> By the looks of it, it displays the malicious ad and requires the user to manually click or follow through with some kind of payment
20:51:50 <hsn> https://www.youtube.com/watchv=zyVgOurr33U
20:51:57 <hsn> https://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/first-active-attack-exploiting-cve-2019-2215-found-on-google-play-linked-to-sidewinder-apt-group/
20:52:03 <hsn> for sure this is technical :)
20:52:18 <Halcyon> That's what I'm after
20:54:53 <Halcyon> OK so it can run without user intervention, but only after the user installs the malicious application first, and it only affects those Android handsets not running the patch update from October 2019 or later.
20:55:08 <Halcyon> I would suggest, like most things, updates keep people secure.
20:55:08 <K> hello
20:56:10 <hsn> im sure my phone is not updated, it cant get updates in my country i have to travel :D
20:56:19 <hsn> K, hello
20:56:22 <Halcyon> What? Really?
20:56:26 <Halcyon> Bugger
20:56:47 <hsn> yeah, its google pixel 2 .. i notice i can only update outside my country
20:57:28 <Ysjoelfir> Hi K
20:59:47 <Ysjoelfir> Grmpf... I'm again annoyed by Pulsonix... Can't someone gift a free Altium License for 15 Seats to my employer?
21:01:36 <K> you probably need some training!
21:02:04 <hsn> 15 seats ?
21:02:28 <Ysjoelfir> Nah. The Pulsonix Guys need some training in software development. I just can't accept that copper shepes look different depending on how far I zoom into the design
21:02:33 <Ysjoelfir> yes, 15 seats
21:03:51 <Ysjoelfir> Take a look at that. This is how I attached the shape to the pad. looks like it smoothly cuddles the pad, doesn't it?
21:04:28 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/YjPTKW.jpg
21:05:24 <hsn> how is kicad ?
21:05:28 <hsn> compared to it
21:05:36 <Ysjoelfir> now if you zoom out it looks like this https://snipboard.io/o7lMSQ.jpg (too small) or that https://snipboard.io/Awxtlz.jpg (to long, right side ok, left side to small)...
21:05:50 <Ysjoelfir> Won't happen, because its free. Don't ask...
21:06:04 <Ysjoelfir> I had that discussion before ;)
21:06:10 <hsn> lol
21:07:28 <Ysjoelfir> Feature wise I guess kicad would be fine. even though we develop real highend stuff, it's not that hard on the software. FPGAs with 1000 pins on 12 layers should be the worst we work on...
21:08:27 <Ysjoelfir> at least if it can calculate PCB transformers. that feature of pulsonix is used very often by one of the teammates.
21:12:23 <hsn> man i envy u when u talk about fpga and 12 layers, i wish i can work somthing like that. instead we graduate from university as (shitty EE) then there is no jobs what so ever on the country for any kind of EE designer..
21:12:36 <K> im quite sure kicad toes not do that
21:14:32 <hsn> jobs related to EE here are :only maintenance technicians who replace old machines card boards and sensors. :D
21:15:25 <K> hsn, where is "here", if you don't mind me asking?
21:15:38 <hsn> bahrain , middle east
21:15:48 <K> ah.
21:16:29 <K> what do your fellow graduates do?
21:17:23 <hsn> technicians or (contruction pmp stuff)
21:18:48 <K> myeah, doesnt sound too good
21:18:55 <hsn> im the only guy who works on ee design that i know.. there are people working on arduino stuff as their own project im not interested for (copying others projects)
21:19:15 <Ysjoelfir> Well, that explains why so many foreign engineers come to germany to find work. didn't know it was that bad :S
21:19:32 <K> can you pivot into software development? embedded or such?
21:20:21 <Ysjoelfir> And the 12 Layer FPGA stuff isn't that much harder than smaller projects like the one I work on right now. (4 layers, ~100 parts, 300 Pins). You just get to stuff more into the available space :)
21:20:57 <hsn> i know (yokogawa) has branch here they work on embedded .. but no job opportonoties idk why
21:22:25 <hsn> the fun part is this
21:23:06 <hsn> the government opened a (national space agency) that does nothing but pictures
21:23:21 <K> of cats?
21:23:38 <K> i would send a cv to that yokogawa
21:23:48 <hsn> http://www.iga.gov.bh/en/article/iga-and-nssa-sign-an-mou-in-space-science-field
21:23:50 <hsn> of them selves
21:23:52 <hsn> hehee
21:23:52 <K> they can't punch you in the face over the internet eh
21:24:14 <Ysjoelfir> If you start to work at yokogawa you would officially be my enemy >:-D
21:25:41 <K> still, no punching
21:25:59 <Ysjoelfir> Correct.
21:26:10 <Ysjoelfir> more like... "hey, can you tell me some details about the WT5000?"
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21:28:34 <hsn> well, i work in FRP company that supplies product for railway sector as R&D
21:28:50 <hsn> i enjoy my job but suffer that i dont deliver anything
21:30:35 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/WuekAM.jpg < i designed that board 4 layers simple input output stuff not big deal.. but learned a lot to be honest ..
21:31:56 <Ysjoelfir> you always learn way more while doing "real" work than in university
21:32:10 <hsn> nothing compared to (EVAC board -> tear down of comptitor board) https://snipboard.io/IxWEwZ.jpg <<
21:32:20 <Ysjoelfir> I have to admit that I only go to university to get a piece of paper that says "I can do this and that"
21:32:47 <Ysjoelfir> You grow with your tasks :)
21:34:59 <hsn> yeah.. its funny how students used to compare gpa each semester ...
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21:39:16 <hsn> https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/816b3cd8f9554d3d852a1353ad1dd408/1000.jpeg and now this << we are fcked .. i have to escape country :D
21:40:10 <Ysjoelfir> Ah, I don't think that it will become that bad
21:40:40 <hsn> yeah last part is just a joke
21:41:02 <Ysjoelfir> I thought so :)
22:24:23 <Halcyon> Meh, it'll blow itself out
22:26:28 <Ysjoelfir> Poff
22:26:34 <Halcyon> Just like that
22:27:46 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j677PxZWifM
22:27:53 <Halcyon> I love the Nixie tubes in some of these machines
22:28:26 <Ysjoelfir> how cool is that?
22:28:43 <Ysjoelfir> (even though the food looks kinda strange. but I would try it.)
22:29:00 <Halcyon> Yeh I would too, it would be not unlike a microwave meal you get in the freezer
22:29:16 <Halcyon> Full of sugar, salt, preservatives and "meat"
22:29:17 <Ysjoelfir> I guess so.
22:29:33 <Ysjoelfir> Still not sure what I will eat for lunch today
22:29:38 <Ysjoelfir> meaning.. in 1 minute
22:29:59 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have something like french fries and a sausage
22:30:53 <Halcyon> No bun?
22:31:15 <Ysjoelfir> either sausage in a bun or... don't know what the english version would be - currywurst.
22:31:33 <Halcyon> We have that here
22:31:39 <Ysjoelfir> ok, it doesn't translate at all :D
22:32:08 <Ysjoelfir> I guess I drive over to the "Pommesbude" from "Fritten Toni".
22:32:14 <Halcyon> I prefer bratwurst type sausages over the dodgy hoofs and eyelids you get in "frankfurts"
22:33:06 <Halcyon> https://www.daringgourmet.com/best-german-curry-ketchup-for-currywurst/
22:33:10 <Halcyon> Looks easy enough to make
22:34:12 * steve30 purrs at Halcyon
22:35:04 <Halcyon> :P
22:35:07 <Halcyon> Silly cat
22:40:40 <steve30> yay nixie tubes
22:40:47 <steve30> I wonder how old those vending machines are
22:42:04 <Halcyon> A lot of the jap ones seem old
22:42:43 <Halcyon> Like even some of the ones Eric tries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3iA_Oce4k
22:44:12 <steve30> We should send one in to Teardown tuesday
22:44:31 <Halcyon> Haha, a machine or something from the machine?
22:45:52 <steve30> the machine
22:47:48 <Halcyon> Those pork sandwiches look amazing from that machine
22:47:51 <Halcyon> So much meat
22:47:55 <Halcyon> I actually want one right now
22:48:46 <steve30> I'm curious as to how the noodle machine works
22:49:15 <Halcyon> Some of the videos he does, the noodle machines seem SO old fashioned, almost all mechanical
22:49:50 <Halcyon> This is fascinating Steve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_JPhpC8Jc
22:52:18 <steve30> seen that
22:52:42 <steve30> I haven't used a vending machine in ages
22:52:52 <steve30> well, unless you count self service tills
22:59:02 <steve30> I wonder if companies profit much from people putting too much money in vending machines that don't give change.
23:00:32 <Halcyon> *shrug*
23:01:12 <hsn> robotic icecream bar does give change? >>> Robotic Icecream Bar FAIL >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTd3MqA4cZ4
23:05:12 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon - It is, but the sauce is the whole magic from that dish. I have yet to discover a third good one. the one in my hometown is great and i found one where I work, which is also great. but other than that.... tried many, wasn't satisfied.
23:18:47 <Ysjoelfir> ah... don't you all like those personal messages at EEVBlog where someone writes you about a Project you briefly mentioned in an ancient post, asking like "Hi, I have built exactly that, it no work, u help me now?"...
23:51:20 <steve30> Don't think I've had that
23:53:01 * steve30 ponders having some food
23:54:49 <Ysjoelfir> Go get some!
23:54:54 <Ysjoelfir> it's worth it
23:54:59 <Ysjoelfir> trust me
23:55:06 <Ysjoelfir> I am experienced in that
23:57:04 * steve30 wonders what to have
23:57:17 <steve30> Maybe chips
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