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11:23 <Ysjoelfir> it smells like warm resistor. I like that smell.
14:45 <K> but how does it taste?
15:08 <Ysjoelfir> 'I would prefer not to lick it
16:01 <K> maybe the dep manager wants to
16:35 <Ysjoelfir> you mean I should shove his face into the case? could be fun. for me. :)
32:16 <DHess_US> 90C is pushing it but some power resistors are made to operate that hot or hotter.
33:49 <Ysjoelfir> just to be clear: we're not talking about those pesky 0207 resistors or the like. more like big lumps of cement-resistors
34:18 <Ysjoelfir> or even the golden 25W aluminium heatsink-casing things
08:01 <rust_collector> aaah, morning "humans"
13:16 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
13:43 <rust_collector> hola
14:18 <rust_collector> hmm, you people have used almost all the letters, I see
14:59 <Ysjoelfir> missing J, N, Q, T, U, V, W
15:33 <rust_collector> ßøöå
16:25 <Ysjoelfir> don't forget ü and ä
17:33 <rust_collector> yes, sorry, I just use y for ü so... I have no reason to remember it
17:57 <Ysjoelfir> and for ä... you have æ, don't you?
18:03 <rust_collector> yup
18:52 <Ysjoelfir> yeah! I'm intelligent!
19:22 <rust_collector> intelli..something
19:43 <rust_collector> that sounds so much better in swedish
20:25 <Ysjoelfir> how does it sound there?
20:30 <rust_collector> intelegent. I am not sure what legent means, but inte means not. so you would be not legent
22:29 <Ysjoelfir> nice^^
27:51 <rust_collector> I think I should try vi(m) again. I can not remember much of it
28:39 <K> ŽŽŽŽŽ!!!!
44:42 <Ysjoelfir> what is that supposed to be?
44:52 <rust_collector> czech
45:27 <rust_collector> it means sausage in polish
45:34 <Ysjoelfir> XD
45:46 <Ysjoelfir> Pølse!
46:46 <rust_collector> I have been looking at smaller vans for some time now. I wonder if I might end up buying a transporter. I have always hated them slightly, but...
49:25 <Ysjoelfir> didn't you want to get a MB100?
49:39 <rust_collector> well, sort of yes, but...
50:04 <rust_collector> they do not exist up here, and I am not going to pay to import THAT
50:21 <K> it's Latvian
50:33 <rust_collector> yeah, I think I said that
50:35 <K> but we took some inspiration czech
50:44 <rust_collector> same same
50:48 <hsn93> واووو
50:58 <rust_collector> 999|9
51:02 <rust_collector> close
51:06 <hsn93> ههه
51:09 <rust_collector> keep trying
51:16 <hsn93> ه = هــــــه
51:38 <hsn93> ماتقدر عليي :(
51:41 <hsn93> now ?
52:02 <rust_collector> eeh, no. maybe there is something wrong with my confuser
52:17 <hsn93> what font u guys use
52:32 <hsn93> because i've to change to arial but its not good
52:38 <rust_collector> I have no idea. whatever came installed
53:09 <hsn93> Consolas ?
54:29 <rust_collector> Noto Sans Regular, it says? (10.5)
55:31 <hsn93> hmm , i dont have that.. ok i changed to (monospace) now i can see the chars ..
56:26 <hsn93> so arabic letters get linked and shape change in the words
57:16 <hsn93> م = ممم ---------- ص = صصص ------------- ش = ششش ---- ج = ججج --- etc
57:34 <hsn93> this is one followed by same letter 3 times ^
57:57 <K> https://imgur.com/a/Dt5mDSv
58:16 <hsn93> nah thats not right
58:42 <hsn93> https://imgur.com/a/YsZENuT
58:52 <K> added another screenshot
59:33 <hsn93> where
59:34 <K> right-to-left is wrong for me then
00:31 <hsn93> im not sure what is wrong, i usually suffer in movies subtitles
01:43 <hsn93> usually soloution in this thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows-1256
03:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/eQrGDH.jpg
14:08 <rust_collector> I think burmese letters look nice
15:44 <rust_collector> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_alphabet
18:45 Join: Lemon ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
19:02 <Lemon> I feel like I went through time D:
19:28 <Lemon> like I closed my eyes and openned them 4 hours later
22:36 <Ysjoelfir> :O oh god lemon, you should patent that principle!
22:56 <Lemon> yeah ? I might be onto something !
27:18 <Ysjoelfir> otoh, if you patent it, in 10 days there will be an asian company selling your invention
29:37 <Lemon> thats the main issue :/ speaking of that ! I was wondering
30:32 <Lemon> do you think a current somewhat decent lab psu, like rigol, siglent etc is much better or around the same, noise wise compared to an old one like sodilec, gossen konstanter, etc ?
31:01 <Lemon> has technology much evolved in that area ? or is it pretty much the same, as now most psu are switch modes ones anyway ?
34:07 <Ysjoelfir> I would say in terms of PSUs it's pretty much a question of personal preference. what mostly evolved was the user interface
34:16 <Ysjoelfir> also, many modern PSUs are switchers
34:28 <Ysjoelfir> which is perfectly fine for many uses, but not for every use case
34:38 <Lemon> yeah not for analog uses
34:44 <Ysjoelfir> depends
34:56 <Ysjoelfir> sensitive analog, yes. but ALL analog... no
35:21 <Lemon> so if I were to want a noise-less psu, an old linear one could do the trick ? and price wise, it will be a much better move than buying a 300 euros chinese one ?
36:24 <Ysjoelfir> I would say so, yes. I personally use several linear PSUs in the lab and one switcher. meanwhile on most designs I build I prefer switching PSUs
36:42 <Lemon> yeah more efficient, smaller
37:09 <Lemon> I will still use my switch mode one for things where I don't care about ripple/noise, but I do want a precise linear one]
38:31 <Ysjoelfir> why does it need to be "precise"?
43:14 Quit: hsn93 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
46:34 <Lemon> well I'd like to be able to measure small voltages/current while playing around, and I like the idea of having the lowest possible noise :>
49:09 <rust_collector> hmm, that is weird. I prefer my noise as loud as I can get it
50:15 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipements_industriels/1682286928.htm/ I found this old boi
50:45 <Lemon> not looking really good but heh, at that price I don't ask too much !
51:16 <Lemon> compared to my 50 euros switch mode chinese model, do you think it will be much better noise/ripple wise ?
52:26 <rust_collector> looks pretty sexy to me. But I have no idea
52:42 <Lemon> its a good ol linear model
54:08 <rust_collector> I like the way this thing looks: https://www.leboncoin.fr/vi/1730447944.htm/
54:25 <rust_collector> I wonder if it is just that it has the second meter...
54:43 <Lemon> its sexy :>
57:33 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1679182961.htm/
57:39 <Lemon> sodilec seems to be a nice brand
57:45 <rust_collector> https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipements_industriels/1730529472.htm/
58:20 <Lemon> I do have some bigass trannys :>
58:31 <rust_collector> kinky
00:34 <rust_collector> that one looks like it has been very nice. do you need more than 1.2a? I guess, if you do, it would probably not be as sensitive, usually?
07:40 <Lemon> honestly I don't need a ton, if its really worth it precision wise I could do with that yeah
07:59 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1737757815.htm/
08:00 <rust_collector> I mean, it is double, and stuff
08:03 <Lemon> I saw this one too
09:05 <rust_collector> hmm, yes. nice. I have no idea if any of these are any good, but that looks neat, it is also 4 times the price of the first one
10:34 <Ysjoelfir> it's a tracking psu, which is nice
10:50 <rust_collector> 2.5 channel, lol
12:10 <rust_collector> that is one of those things that I would buy, just because I like the way it looks.
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16:13 <rust_collector> baaa baaaa baaaa bhaaaaarain la la lala laaaaaa
17:01 <Ysjoelfir> xD
17:07 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Farvel og har en hyggelige tid :)
26:42 <Lemon> I'll ask the dude how much is he willing to sell it with shipping :>
27:06 <rust_collector> how far away is it?
27:27 <Lemon> 3-4 hours by car :/
27:39 <rust_collector> oh ok
27:56 <Lemon> but first I wanted to focus on a waveform generator :>
28:02 <rust_collector> drive faster?
28:03 <rust_collector> ok
28:08 <Lemon> haha well
28:13 <rust_collector> FOCUS!!!
28:21 <Lemon> yes yes yes
30:36 <Lemon> that would cost like 12-15 euros in shipping
30:48 <Lemon> if he accepts to take down the price by 15-20 euros that could be a pretty nice deal
31:44 <rust_collector> well, shipping is expensive for bricks and boat anchors. I would be ok with the price as it is too
32:00 <Lemon> yeah its nice deal
32:04 <rust_collector> I just have too much money
34:39 <Lemon> https://www.leboncoin.fr/bricolage/1736657540.htm/ I wanted to buy this one
36:37 <rust_collector> ok, why is it still listed there?
36:52 <Lemon> how so ?
36:55 <Lemon> I don't understand
36:59 <rust_collector> looks cute, for being a 1987
37:13 <Lemon> yeah and theres some neat functions
37:15 <rust_collector> you wanted to buy it... it is for sale... why is it still for sale?
37:25 <Lemon> haaa well you know people take ages to answer :>
37:33 <Lemon> its been two days I messaged the dude
37:39 <Lemon> people suck for that here
37:50 <Lemon> most dont want to send items, they only want cashhh etc
37:54 <Lemon> I pay by paypal or nothing
38:05 <Lemon> or cash if its near me but it never happens
38:12 <Lemon> interesting things are far, thats a constant
38:16 <rust_collector> you need to send someone to knock on his door...
38:18 <rust_collector> yes
40:44 <Lemon> but yeah if I can get those two items, I'll have anice base to work on some projects, and learn properly by being able to see things
41:06 <Lemon> measure things, see waveforms, generate some, use a precise psu etc
48:03 Quit: hsn93 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
50:30 <rust_collector> http://www.dudleylab.com/Power%20Supply%20TPS-4000.pdf
55:49 <K> https://imgur.com/a/AcWyM4E
56:14 <K> that psu on the left side is probably twice my age
56:30 <Lemon> pretty nice lab !
56:45 <Lemon> hoooo you found the manual thanks !
57:28 <rust_collector> probably more than twice your age
58:41 <Lemon> 0,5mv noise/ripple
58:44 <Lemon> sounds correct honestly
59:42 <K> selenium rectifiers in in iirc
59:59 <K> have not opened it up yet
00:35 <rust_collector> guy on the forum said some things about these things...
00:38 <rust_collector> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/topward-tps-4000d-psu-manual/msg1217789/#msg1217789
02:09 <Lemon> ha but thats the D version
02:17 <Lemon> I don't know if internals are the same
03:22 <rust_collector> no, but maybe keep it in mind, I guess
03:41 <Lemon> its still a nice one im sure
03:50 <Lemon> I actually prefer it without the digital display
04:08 <rust_collector> yeah,
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08:09 <Ysjoelfir> Woohoo! I'm not banned anymore!
08:20 <K> eh?
09:21 <Lemon> we found our missing cat !
09:48 <Lemon> he just came back to the attic somehow, he looks a bit afraid so we will give him a break
09:49 <Ysjoelfir> Just kidding K, the network wide banlist had my yesterday IP on it's index
09:58 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) gratz orange!
10:10 <Ysjoelfir> oh, you wanted to see the tube collection, didn't you?
10:26 <Lemon> yess :D
15:02 <Ysjoelfir> its uploading
15:10 <Lemon> thanks :>
16:09 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bc2wZ8cF36BsEePfRkw4Xh2aormX0nFb/view?usp=sharing the tooooobs
16:29 <rust_collector> BOOBS!!=!!???
16:31 <rust_collector> oh
16:36 <Lemon> hoooo theres a fair lot of them !
16:42 <Ysjoelfir> and the PSU from my dad. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bb80nFbMmkWeHkNpBanYynmZMIRs_SJz/view?usp=sharing
16:48 <Ysjoelfir> sadly no boobs rusty :(
17:00 <Ysjoelfir> yes, aroiund 1700 when i last made an index
17:10 <Lemon> its looking pretty good !
17:12 <rust_collector> Nah, I guess that is ok, they do not keep very well on a shelf
17:12 <Lemon> wow :O
18:24 <K> Ysjoelfir: https://imgur.com/a/AcWyM4E - psu on left is from my dad
18:48 <Ysjoelfir> wow, nice beefy case
18:56 <Ysjoelfir> well, nice gear all together :D
18:58 <K> selenium rectifiers
19:14 <Ysjoelfir> uaah
19:21 <Ysjoelfir> you know how we call those in germany?
19:23 <K> 30V/3A
19:34 <K> how do you call them?
19:37 <Ysjoelfir> thats pretty usefull :)
19:54 <K> sentimental value
20:58 <rust_collector> sentimentalen wert
21:17 <rust_collector> in german, maybe, I think
22:20 <K> dunno how "boat anchor" would be in german
22:29 <K> not that i have a boat
22:48 <Ysjoelfir> well, there is a german word "Seele", meaning soul. Selenium is "Selen". Rectifier is "Gleichrichter". Gleich in german means shortly and a "Richter" is someone who judges or executes someone. So... Its like Soul judge
23:00 <K> hehe
23:05 <Ysjoelfir> also, there is a second version. If you split "Gleichrichter" into three words it becomes "Gleich riecht er" which translates to "he will be smelling soon"
23:27 <K> haha
23:40 <Ysjoelfir> and sentimental value would be sentimentaleR wert rusty. so nearly perfect :)
23:41 <rust_collector> Ok, I will just use some diodes
23:53 <K> it doesn't smell, humms a bit though
24:01 <Ysjoelfir> a boat anchor is... well... I don't know, I use the word in german, too.
24:20 <rust_collector> ok, I am sorry that I mangled your language like that. I will do that again
24:26 <Ysjoelfir> it may not be smelling now, but it will be soon ;)
24:31 <Ysjoelfir> thanks, I appreciate that :P
30:59 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtavBdtZk2o aaaaah, those russians
31:02 <Ysjoelfir> how cute is that thing XD
31:34 <rust_collector> well, it is one of the cutest old style transits...
32:06 <Ysjoelfir> but watch what they do with it^^
32:13 <rust_collector> no
32:20 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, I don't understand why you would to that, BUT.... it's cute
32:24 <rust_collector> I have seen it
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33:34 <rust_collector> Meh, some people have a kind of brain damage. It is a pretty popular thing to do, but yeah, it is pretty pointless. Now, if they just took out a meter or so...that would be cool
35:06 <Ysjoelfir> interesting fact: one of my work colleges is from novosibirsk where those guys are from, too. he says it's not all to uncommon to see such strange things on the road there
35:57 <rust_collector> mmkay
36:37 <rust_collector> its a looong walk to novosibirsk, laaaa laaaa laaaa
36:45 <rust_collector> (guitar sounds)
37:05 <Ysjoelfir> :P
37:52 <rust_collector> or maybe accordion and clapping hands sound
39:51 <Ysjoelfir> lol. in the next video they drive that thing around town like a regular bus
40:06 <Ysjoelfir> peoples faces are brilliant
40:24 <rust_collector> just wait until you see the real bus drivers
40:48 <Ysjoelfir> lol XD just saw him
41:28 <Ysjoelfir> i bet they were thinking like "I would love to drive that thing."
42:15 <rust_collector> if I had to drive grumpy old people around all day, I would love one of those no seat buses
43:27 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
49:20 <rust_collector> I have managed to not get the bus drivers license. I am not getting it, ever
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50:07 <Ysjoelfir> I actually thought about getting it. but more to have tha license to drive a bus than to... drive a bus with people in it
50:21 <Lemon> alright the dude with the lab psu accepts to take the price down by 10 euros
50:27 <Lemon> and theres 12.5 euros of shipping
50:51 <rust_collector> I can drive a bus, as long as there are no people in it. (and I am 99% sure you can too)
51:06 <rust_collector> yay! happy...ps day
51:36 <Ysjoelfir> sure I can. but If I am allowed is another question
51:43 <Ysjoelfir> gra
52:00 <rust_collector> if you can drive it by weight, you can
52:02 <Ysjoelfir> memo to myself: before shaking your bottle with tea: close the lid
52:09 <rust_collector> just buy your own bus
52:17 <Lemon> 2x 30v/2amps + a fixed 5v3amps is nice honestly
52:27 <Ysjoelfir> I am not allowed to do that, sadly. 3.5 tons max
52:37 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a perfect psu leomn
52:39 <rust_collector> I want a big bendy bus, and I am going to rip all the seats out, and just drive it to work
52:47 <Lemon> and I guess its possible to parrallel it to get 4 amps, or in serie to get 60v
53:17 <Ysjoelfir> I would do exactly that
53:25 <Lemon> but damn I need to think about it so it can fit on the desk :>
53:32 <Ysjoelfir> :P
53:35 <rust_collector> The manual mentioned something about series or parallel things... look it up first
54:53 <Lemon> well honestly even 30v2amps is enough
55:04 <Lemon> so that will be 85 euros or around it
55:25 <rust_collector> ok, how do you want to get paid?
55:45 <Lemon> to pay it you mean ?
55:52 <rust_collector> nono
56:02 <rust_collector> ship that thing up here!
56:03 <Lemon> ha xd ok ok I see !
56:41 <rust_collector> it is the focus you talked about
56:53 <Lemon> I dont get it :>
57:00 <rust_collector> I can see clearly now
57:02 <Lemon> I'm tired, if thats a decent excuse x)
57:18 <rust_collector> oh, stop waking up so damn early then
57:30 <Lemon> well the problem is those freaking tooth
57:37 <rust_collector> oh
57:39 <Lemon> they keep me awake
57:56 <Lemon> I have a wisdom teeth that grows perpendicular from others
57:59 <Lemon> to others ?
58:21 <rust_collector> mmh, to, I think
58:30 <rust_collector> well, that is not ideal
58:44 <Lemon> yeah, last time I ended up inconscious because of the pain
58:57 <rust_collector> that is one way
58:57 <Lemon> to give you an idea, I take 240mg of methadone everyday
59:07 <Lemon> (because of a previous addiction)
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59:25 <Lemon> that itself is a pretty strong antalgic, but it does nothing
59:25 <rust_collector> doesn't really tell me much. I know what it is, but...
59:28 <Ysjoelfir> wtf
59:34 <Kuschelpony> a curious electronican says "Hello"
59:41 <Ysjoelfir> Kuschelpony? :D That sounds very german to my ears
59:41 <Lemon> 1mg per kg is enough to kill you if you never took any opiods
59:45 <Lemon> hello:>
59:53 <Kuschelpony> Ysjoelfir, yes right
00:02 <Ysjoelfir> Woah, ein landsmann!
00:04 <rust_collector> hey mr pony
00:16 <rust_collector> or ms pony
00:34 <Kuschelpony> i prefer the ungendered version :)
00:34 <rust_collector> or, being in this channel, both at the same ot different times
00:40 <Lemon> Ripple & Noise: CV: 0.5nV(rms), 4mV(p-p); CC: 0.5nA(rms), 4mA(p-p)
00:51 <Lemon> thats really low
01:35 <Lemon> for 85 euros including shipping, it looks like a really nice deal
01:36 <Kuschelpony> currently this is only a visit out of curiousity but when i have finished a costume project i will continue my electronics hobby and then get mpre active here
01:55 <Ysjoelfir> That would be cool :)
02:18 <Ysjoelfir> We should make more advertisments on the forums so more people join
02:26 <Kuschelpony> im already a silent watcher of the eev forum since a year
03:40 <rust_collector> same here. I do not feel I have much to add to the forum. So I just go here and type random words and letters
04:09 <Kuschelpony> well the problem might be that the todays young generation does non longer know IRC or is used to completely different habits
05:15 <Ysjoelfir> aah, those youngsters....
05:26 <rust_collector> hello
05:30 <rust_collector> ??
05:46 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
05:57 <rust_collector> what about those me?
06:14 <Ysjoelfir> ah. forgot that you are just short of 12
06:24 <rust_collector> mmhmm
06:48 <Kuschelpony> i meant, im already of the middle generation and the young people i know from other parts of my life either dont know IRC at all or are fixed to smartphones
07:02 <Ysjoelfir> define middle generation
07:12 <rust_collector> he is your age
07:14 <Kuschelpony> the 40s
07:16 <rust_collector> +3
07:16 <Ysjoelfir> I never can't realy decide if I already reched that ir if I did not
07:21 <Ysjoelfir> ok, so I did not
07:33 <rust_collector> in 3 years you will
07:41 <Kuschelpony> but with a passion to collect and fix the old stuff thats more than 50 years
07:45 <Ysjoelfir> that means at 32 you are middle aged?
07:56 <rust_collector> 43
08:17 <Ysjoelfir> that would be in 11 years for me
08:23 <rust_collector> hah
08:27 <rust_collector> kids...
08:33 <Ysjoelfir> aah, come on
09:07 <Ysjoelfir> a psychologist actually once told me that my mental age is around 10 years older than my physical age.
09:54 <Ysjoelfir> what I always wonder is... does that mean that I get dementia in my 50s?
10:31 <rust_collector> yeah, if you see a psychologist, you probably are 10+ years older than your age
10:56 <rust_collector> no, you get dementia when you are 62
11:04 <rust_collector> october
12:39 <Ysjoelfir> oh. ok. good to know
14:44 <rust_collector> not that you will remember
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16:23 <rust_collector> mmmhfff dinner
16:36 <rust_collector> gnawing sounds
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19:03 <Ysjoelfir> waiting for the wife to start making dinner
19:10 <Kuschelpony> my next little project will be to repair and slightly mod a Monarch HAM1
19:15 <Ysjoelfir> while tha cat goes apeshit about a damn noodle I dropped on the floor
19:35 <Ysjoelfir> what do you intend to mod? :)
20:45 <Kuschelpony> mostly a switch between internal ferrite rod antenna, or shielded coil with input from external antenna
21:08 <Kuschelpony> also modifying the whole tuning stuff for two point tracking
21:47 <Kuschelpony> its a glorified AA5 radio on shortwave
24:03 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok. so you are into RF stuff?
24:56 * Ysjoelfir is looking for the newly bought 3.5 to 6.3mm headphone adapters....
25:02 <Ysjoelfir> damn where did i put those?
25:11 <rust_collector> up on the shelf
25:32 <Ysjoelfir> nope, already looked there
25:45 <rust_collector> just kidding, they are thrown next to and behind the computer
26:00 <Kuschelpony> yes, tube stuff
26:34 <Ysjoelfir> i literaly just came up from under the pc desk, lookin exactly there, rusty XD
26:39 <Ysjoelfir> ah. another tube guy
26:43 <Kuschelpony> of course i also work with SMD IC, but these tube radios have their soul that i love
26:49 <Ysjoelfir> [18:16:07] <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bc2wZ8cF36BsEePfRkw4Xh2aormX0nFb/view?usp=sharing the tooooobs
27:16 <Ysjoelfir> just took that picture for Lemon to take a look at
29:59 <Kuschelpony> i have to leave again for today, will be more active here in something one to two weeks
30:14 <Kuschelpony> have a nice evening or what your local time is
30:35 <rust_collector> 19:30 here
30:38 <rust_collector> also
31:55 <Ysjoelfir> you too
31:57 <Ysjoelfir> bye
32:23 <Lemon> see you !
32:35 <Lemon> well, guess if the dude accept paypal, I'll have a new anchor on the desk :>
32:42 <rust_collector> all there chuurmans with their tooobs
32:50 <rust_collector> but but
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34:49 <Ysjoelfir> where
34:50 <Ysjoelfir> did
34:50 <Ysjoelfir> i
34:53 <Ysjoelfir> put
34:53 <Ysjoelfir> those
34:55 <Ysjoelfir> adapters
34:56 <Ysjoelfir> ._.
35:09 <Ysjoelfir> damn I'm annoyed
36:03 <rust_collector> in the fridge?
36:48 <Ysjoelfir> I'm rather sure that that is one of the places where it is unlikely to be
36:58 <Ysjoelfir> otoh...
37:06 <Ysjoelfir> the gf already searched days for the telefone
37:22 <Ysjoelfir> when we noticed that the freezer doesn't usually make telephone sounds
38:20 <rust_collector> hmm, time for an upgrade... maybe install a little mp3 player and speaker
45:01 <Ysjoelfir> xD
50:38 <rust_collector> hmm, you should put those in many random places around the house.
51:10 <rust_collector> maybe put one in the water tank on your toilet, making cat sounds
54:10 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6W0KYOSzj0
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06:20 <Ysjoelfir> that would be great
06:35 <Ysjoelfir> and I give up
06:40 <Ysjoelfir> those adapters are gone oO
06:42 <Ysjoelfir> damn
07:06 <rust_collector> oh look, where did I get these adapters from? hmmmm
07:26 <rust_collector> nah, I only have one of them
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24:39 <Lemon> the dude accepts paypal !
24:57 <rust_collector> grrrrreat
25:07 <Ysjoelfir> bought new ones now - i expect myself to find the old ones tomorrow.
25:08 <Lemon> ;D
25:15 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) have fun with that
25:30 <Lemon> and tommorow I go to the dentist, she accepted to take me quickly between two people
25:30 <rust_collector> paypal is always fun
25:48 <rust_collector> hammer and chisel time for you
30:02 <Lemon> I think she will just give me something for the pain, as first I need to pass some radios
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41:20 <rust_collector> hmm, I found a pair of pliers. I can not remember these
41:59 <rust_collector> york, made in czechoslovakia...
42:18 <rust_collector> I guess they are not exactly new
42:26 <Lemon> speaking of pliers, I really need a pair of good sidecutters
42:32 <Lemon> like superknips or something
44:52 <Lemon> that and various banana 4mm cables, some crocodile too, of good quality
44:54 <Lemon> I might make my own
47:14 <rust_collector> you probably should.
52:29 <Lemon> some gold plated connectors, and quality cable
54:59 <Lemon> I wonder something
55:12 <Lemon> you know on audio amps, theres 4mm banana too
55:24 <Lemon> can I buy some of those kind ? https://www.amazon.fr/FosPower-Bananes-Speaker-Connectors-Haut-Parleur/dp/B06Y9129X1/ref=pd_sbs_201_t_1/258-4253929-9339311?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B06Y9129X1&pd_rd_r=9f9a53d0-a6a1-448f-96e0-48dd866fc986&pd_rd_w=WpBkw&pd_rd_wg=hDXyp&pf_rd_p=9b28d941-c13a-4c2b-b935-36854aa20020&pf_rd_r=885PTERY395294VE49Q7&psc=1&refRID=
55:24 <Lemon> 885PTERY395294VE49Q7
55:29 <Lemon> they look pretty decent
58:25 <rust_collector> they are probably fine. I dunno about those ones exactly, but... a 4mm plug is a 4mm plug, audio or not. They look like they have the "springy slot" sort of pin. but without the rotating piece that keeps junk in there.
58:48 <Lemon> ho yeah I took those as an example
58:56 <Lemon> for the wire, 18 awg is fine ?
59:18 <rust_collector> well, probably. at least for most things
00:07 <Lemon> https://fr.farnell.com/alpha-wire/6715-bk005/fil-eco-18awg-noir-30-5m/dp/1764953
01:05 <Lemon> or this instead https://fr.farnell.com/alpha-wire/3055-bk005/fil-noir-18awg-16-30awg-30-5m/dp/2290834
01:12 <Lemon> pvc should be better, more flexible
01:39 <rust_collector> pvc is not very very flexible. drain pipe is pvc.
01:54 <Lemon> even on cables ?
02:03 <Lemon> I thought it was the most flexible insulator on cables
02:13 <rust_collector> silicone, I guess
02:47 <rust_collector> pvc is like the usual cheap whatever thing cable
03:11 <Lemon> ho ok I might have mixed it up then
03:36 <coppice_> PVC is rather inflexible unless its quite warm. most flexy cables are silicone insulated
04:51 <coppice_> rust_collector: there are literally hundreds of types of PVC. They use especially stiff ones for pipes, and especially flexible ones for cables. They still aren't great when its cold, though
05:09 <Lemon> I'll go for silicone then, thanks :>
06:28 <Lemon> https://fr.farnell.com/tenma/76-1210/clip-crocodile-embase-4mm-fem/dp/2821790?st=crocodile I like those kind of crocodile pliers
06:44 <Lemon> better than the cheap ones with only a piece of heatshrink or sillicone like
06:47 <Lemon> that slips
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21:04 <MrMobodies> So far this PfSense 2.5 has been stable no crashes as of yet apart from one where I turned off the WAN1 by mistake.
21:19 <MrMobodies> I find I cannot change gateway like I could with 2.1.5
21:43 <MrMobodies> but I can make another one and disable the gateway that is created automatically,
22:26 <MrMobodies> and no problems with the irq sharing with the hex port cards apart from a bit more cpu time being used between sharing
23:35 <MrMobodies> I was recommended Pfsense from a place that seems to no longer exists. It was called Gamersvault.net and I think they could no longer afford to run it.
23:55 <MrMobodies> that was back in 2009
26:28 <MrMobodies> memory usage 10% of 4044mb and I think that is a little more
27:24 <rust_collector> I think newer versions of any software will use more of allthethings. Well, pretty much always
33:03 <MrMobodies> I did have a problem with a release above 2.1.5 so I went back and I was thinking it will slow it down or lack support but in this case I am surprised this time
34:15 <MrMobodies> I think there was issue with one release where when I team the wans up it eventually stop working but it didn't work on the one before
47:42 <MrMobodies> Here some pictures https://imgur.com/a/wGwKous
21:36 <rust_collector> that is a lot of stuff
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39:19 <MrMobodies> well there's more where they came from
39:20 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/vi1FqRn
39:53 <MrMobodies> the benefits of stock piling the good stuff I find are like a form of security, when they break they're spares already there.
40:40 <rust_collector> hmm, interesting.
40:54 <rust_collector> in my case, if I have a spare, they just never ever break
42:04 <rust_collector> like, my car has a bad wheel bearing. it is not horrible, but it makes a little noise. but I have a new bearing, so it never gets any worse. It has been rumbling for a year or so now
42:41 <MrMobodies> the good things about spares too... when I want to experiment I just get them off the shelf
42:50 <rust_collector> yep
43:03 <MrMobodies> I may have customers too that that might come in handy attimes
44:13 <MrMobodies> Oh the yes picture, that KVM switch and laptop all prepared until I finish the firewall stuff.
46:25 <MrMobodies> by the time I am finished with the Pfsense firewall, they'd be a switch, I plug in a router to test and it gets a public IP address using NAT 1:1 of course from either the ones allocated from both lines, no port forwarding or messing about.
47:41 <MrMobodies> looking all exciting and with the 8 additional ports to play with.
00:51 <rust_collector> well, have fun with that. I am going to bed.
02:53 <MrMobodies> Thanks it also keeps me sane too.
03:09 <rust_collector> ehm... well...
03:24 <MrMobodies> when you're lonely and they're there just there
04:46 <MrMobodies> going to bed? is it late in your place?
04:55 <MrMobodies> It is about 10pm
05:05 <MrMobodies> in England
05:20 <rust_collector> yeah, it is just 1 hour difference here
05:26 <rust_collector> so 11
06:54 <rust_collector> but I am getting up around 6, so I guess it is time for a nap. I have my "late" shift tomorrow, 7.30 to 7 or so
08:15 <MrMobodies> so you work overnight
08:17 <MrMobodies> sometimes
08:51 <rust_collector> not in the last year or so. my early shift starts at 3.30
09:22 <MrMobodies> until I find work, I am up in the night and sleep in the day
09:50 <MrMobodies> I spend my time learning off Youtube
11:14 <rust_collector> yeah, and when you do find a job, you will be up too much in the night, and spend your sleeping time at work, so when you get home, you are completely useless, then you try to stay awake so you can go sleep, but end up on youtube of reading all of wikipedia, and then you have to go to work again
12:12 <MrMobodies> oh yes that happened to me many years
12:25 <MrMobodies> it was like an habit
13:19 <MrMobodies> but it was the excitement of getting things up and working and bring them in that kept me awake and with the help with coffee.
13:47 <MrMobodies> also when it makes people at work happy
27:34 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Made in Germany isn't go to stop the leakage. Sing it... You can't stop the leakage, nobody can stop the leakage. https://t.co/m74nmKznAZ
28:35 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I've got competition in the dumpster, someone's been having a play... They can have that one, I left it alone a week ago https://t.co/PRF05AlNQQ
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45:34 <steve30> hi
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58:18 <steve30> *purr*
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16:48 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/Catswhoyell/comments/evajzm/reverb_cat_has_spoken/
16:55 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/71TLTFS.jpg
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30:01 <DHess_US> Just had the electric element in my oven short out. The conversation went "Why don't you fix that tomorrow?" "I'm hungry now."
30:23 <steve30> :(
30:54 <DHess_US> The electric element turned into an arc welder so it was pretty spectacular until I shut the power off.
32:33 <DHess_US> Took the bottom element from the bottom oven to fix it but the overload broke the oven mode switch.
32:46 <T3sl4> yummy
33:25 <DHess_US> So now BAKE doesn't work. But TIMED BAKE works so I set the timer so it is on and it will stay on because the clock is broken anyway.
34:29 <DHess_US> Hmm, fish sticks flavored with arc welding fumes ...
34:37 <T3sl4> set it to 4:20, should do
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05:18 <steve30> I feel a bit better for having food :)
05:32 <T3sl4> food is nice. i had burger king earlier
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13:11 <steve30> Time for more coffee I think
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16:19 <DHess_US> Lol, watching Ford V Ferrari and they must have had someone specifically record the door opening sound on an old Mustang. It is right on.
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19:26 <DHess_US> Someone in the production must be a motorhead.
23:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Hand sanitisers completely sold out. #NoPanic #coronoavirus https://t.co/beV5K56ybA
23:21 <coppice_> a motorhead making a show about race cars? ya think?
24:13 <DHess_US> It takes someone who loves cars to include something like that.
24:19 <DHess_US> I mean, I recognized it.
24:52 <DHess_US> That is unusual attention to detail for a movie.
27:40 <coppice_> car makers put a lot of money into get actual car door sounds right. it seems its a big selling point for cars, especially luxury ones
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28:45 <DHess_US> I don't think they did that with the original Mustang doors. They sort of rattle.
28:58 <DHess_US> Which is what caught my eye when I heard it in the movie.
29:03 <DHess_US> err, caught my ear
29:25 <DHess_US> My father has a 64.5 with the Tripower HP 289
29:31 <steve30> WHy do people get obsessed with those hand sanitizer things? What's wrong with soap and water?
29:32 <coppice_> ah, but did they rattle more or less than similar cars of the same era?
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29:51 <DHess_US> coppice_, they rattled uniquely.
29:56 <DHess_US> Which is why I recognized it.
30:05 <coppice_> steve30: soap doesn't sanitise effectly, and isn't as easy to use on the move
30:19 <DHess_US> What? Soap is a great sanitizer.
30:52 <DHess_US> Reducing surface tension and emulsifying is a great way to destroy pathogens.
30:54 <steve30> I have never used a hand sanitiser, and it has never resulted in me being ill.
31:30 <coppice_> if you want to sanitise your hands for any medical purpose you need to used proper medical sanitising soap and several minutes of scrubing
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31:40 <DHess_US> Hand sanitizer is more useful for where you don't have room for soap and water.
31:59 <DHess_US> Yet if you did the same thing with just "soap", it would be 90% as effective.
32:12 <coppice_> steve30: have you never had an infection?
32:50 <steve30> Yes, I've had infections, but its impossible to say whether they were directly the cause of not using hand sanitiser.
33:29 <coppice_> so, how can you say the non use of hand sanitiser has not resulted one or more of your infections?
33:42 <steve30> educated guess
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34:44 <DHess_US> Because the people who advertise and sell hand sanitizer have their own agenda.
34:59 <steve30> I do wash my hands with soap though
35:10 <coppice_> SARS and avian flu did wonders for hand sanitiser sales in HK
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36:15 <DHess_US> I bet. Like I said, hand sanitizer has its place where you don't have access to soap and water.
37:52 <coppice_> I expect HK is back to the old regime this week. Plastic sheets taped over elevator button panels, replaced daily; lots of places like washrooms wiped with steriliser hourly; etc
39:56 <DHess_US> Not a bad idea but mostly, um, epidemic theater?
40:03 <coppice_> SARS created some fantastic buying opertunities for property in HK :)
41:03 <steve30> Hospitals here have loads of hand sanitizer. When I've been in a hospital I just wash my hands in the sink after I've been to the toilet
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41:42 <DHess_US> In HK? If the property is worth something, the Chinese government will steal it.
42:20 <DHess_US> The rules are simple. Wash your hands at every opportunity. Don't touch your face.
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44:42 <coppice_> interestingly SARS made property prices crash for a while, but 6 months of riots has had only a minor effect on property prices
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15:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, this is nuts. Dettol and Isocol hand sanitisers completely sold out in supermarkets and chemists retail and online. And bulk 5L isopropyl is selling 8 per hour on ebay. #coronoavirus https://t.co/KCOc1t79nV
23:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I'm set. 70% is the most effective, luckily I have water too. #coronoavirus https://t.co/HFOkuR1ldh
24:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, this is nuts. Dettol and Isocol hand sanitisers almost completely sold out in supermarkets and chemists retail & online. And bulk 5L isopropyl is selling 8 per hour on ebay. #coronavirusaustralia https://t.co/Q4Xz40MEge
34:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The preppers choice :-> #coronavirus https://t.co/AyXQ9aNVmt
35:19 <MrMobodies> I brought 5L of alcohol but not because of the Corona Virus.
35:25 <MrMobodies> It was to fill up my 1L bottles
36:01 <steve30> I have a 250ml bottle.
36:08 <dkudriavtsev> i'm wondering how that ebay seller managed to find pure 100% isopropyl alcohol
36:09 <MrMobodies> handy stuff
36:15 <MrMobodies> I got some too
36:21 <MrMobodies> no Acetone
36:39 <steve30> I bought one 10 years ago and just finished it the other day, so I'll need to open the new bottle next time i need some
36:41 <MrMobodies> I had a few accident when it spilled and moulded the plastic
36:57 <MrMobodies> I just spent some hours packging things up
37:01 <MrMobodies> I have just noticed Onebill in the letter expecting me to pay for returns
37:19 <MrMobodies> So I packaged the routers up one that has been here since last October
37:44 <MrMobodies> and sent an email requesting a repaid form and that it isn't fair to expect me to pay
38:04 <MrMobodies> I did ask them on the phone, no returns pack and they said not to bother sending them back
38:27 <MrMobodies> I got that letter last week date on 20/12/19 but the other router arrived before that
39:18 <MrMobodies> BT has taken soo long to sign off the job the system cancels the order and when they restore it another router gets sent out
39:58 <steve30> have you been sent surplus routers?
40:04 <MrMobodies> Yes
40:13 <MrMobodies> and I kept on asking if they wanted them back
40:28 <MrMobodies> they said to keep it and ignore emails
40:34 <MrMobodies> as not returns pack came
40:46 <MrMobodies> but he last one dated 20/12/19 came last week
41:16 <steve30> what routers are they? Could they be worth keeping as spares?
42:04 <MrMobodies> Thomson Technicolor DWA0120
42:28 <MrMobodies> to avoid having to find packaging and send them back, I asked how much they wanted for them
42:47 <MrMobodies> I was told they would have to charge RRP is which the £79.99
44:29 <MrMobodies> No SYSLOG, couldn't find a way to decrypt the config file, for the NTP, SYSLOG settings and turn off the port 80 which is a bit stupid?
45:20 <MrMobodies> you can reach router's webserver from any ip from port 80 and this was an issue with an older ADSL technicolor I came across 10 years ago.
45:33 <MrMobodies> time for some tea
46:27 <dkudriavtsev> here in the US you have telcos that have an option to use a customer supplied router, but then at the end of the service period forget that this was selected and demand that the customer send back their nonexistent router
46:43 <dkudriavtsev> or put in a collections charge
49:34 <MrMobodies> oh that's a bit bad
49:39 <dkudriavtsev> yes
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15:12 <MrMobodies> I have a joke but I don't know if it is a good one.
16:26 <MrMobodies> A manager walks into a firm, and tells everyone, "I'm sorry but we're going to be needing new firmware in this office so therefore you are all FIRED!"
24:18 <steve30> hehe
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41:48 <MrMobodies> When someone is in debt or insolvent, poltergeists are sent out to possess their home, and they send out the practitioners.
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55:59 <hsn93> hey
58:13 <hsn93> number 8: https://snipboard.io/ZFfPEu.jpg :D
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43:54 <Guest|91833> hi
45:34 <Guest|91833> Is there anyone ?
46:10 <Ysjoelfir> jep, sort of
47:31 <Guest|91833> I wanted to some intensity variation for my grow lights. Should i do it with PWM using 555 ?
48:54 <Ysjoelfir> depends. is your weed sensitive to flicker?
49:44 <Guest|91833> strawberries ?
50:01 <Ysjoelfir> I'm not sure?
50:02 <Ysjoelfir> however
50:48 <hsn93> strawberry weed seems legit
51:03 <Ysjoelfir> to be serious: that depends very much on your grow light. how does it work, does it allow rapid switching, or does it even has a in built dimming possibility?
51:15 <Guest|91833> weed, ha ha
51:51 <Guest|91833> It doesn't have builtin dimming. We are designing on our own
52:22 <Ysjoelfir> you are designing the whole light, or just repurpose an existing desihn?
52:48 <Guest|91833> We are designing the whole PCB for the need
53:17 <Guest|91833> as per the number of LEDs required and umol stuff
57:19 <Ysjoelfir> so which topology do you intend to use?
57:29 <Ysjoelfir> 230V to xV for the LEDs?
57:38 <Ysjoelfir> switching regulator, linear supply,...?
58:41 <Guest|91833> thinking of 230V to xV, because the total voltage would vary than the standard supplies
59:16 <Ysjoelfir> and do you use a switcher or a linear supply to achieve that?
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07:19 <Ysjoelfir> whatever that was
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07:50 <Ysjoelfir> Moin boobor
07:54 <Ysjoelfir> *noobor sry
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11:45 <Ysjoelfir> so, Guest|91833?
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29:45 <Ysjoelfir> well, can't be that critical
36:43 <hsn993> :)
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33:25 <Halcyon> Evening all
39:23 <hsn993> evening Halcyon
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41:30 <Lemon> waddup !
43:44 <Ysjoelfir> work work work
43:50 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Halcyon
50:50 <Ysjoelfir> https://i.imgflip.com/3nj4ol.jpg
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56:11 <Ysjoelfir> so, that's my mood today if anyone wanted to know..
57:05 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon
57:07 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
57:33 <Halcyon> Hey hsn993
57:43 * Halcyon spanks T3sl4 
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59:28 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, I'm annoyed :(
59:34 <Halcyon> Oh?
00:10 <Ysjoelfir> yeah. take a look at the pic I just posted. Me being the guy in brown, the head of development being the guy in the shirt
00:51 <Halcyon> I saw
00:52 <Halcyon> Heheh
02:37 <Ysjoelfir> that means a complete respin
02:38 <Ysjoelfir> of the PCB
02:41 <Ysjoelfir> the case
02:44 <Ysjoelfir> the documentation
02:46 <Ysjoelfir> the graphics
02:51 <Ysjoelfir> the parts lists
02:52 <Ysjoelfir> everything
03:14 <Ysjoelfir> and big boss is sitting in my neck with the whip asking me why it takes so long x.x
14:55 <Ysjoelfir> there are two guys with a crane in front of the factory. I am waiting for something like this to happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYYF096cJRA
15:05 <Ysjoelfir> judged by their skill in maneuvering that thing it will happen soon
24:40 <Halcyon> I'm sorry to hear :(
24:45 <Halcyon> Other than work, how are you?
27:51 <Ysjoelfir> oh, i'm fine, thanks :) and you?
28:09 <Halcyon> Yeh not bad, just making dinner
28:14 <Halcyon> Doing chicken kievs :)
28:37 <Ysjoelfir> Nice :)
29:06 <Ysjoelfir> My brain is always like... "wtf... dinner at 11:30?" or "he's drinking wine in the morning?".... until i realize that you are sitting on the other side of the globe
29:24 <Ysjoelfir> oh, speaking of wine... I found something in a local Aldi! let me upload it quickly
31:19 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BuuzIrDU9DyBUyGpSbTTzVYlQA9mMyb5/view?usp=sharing
31:26 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure it can't be good at that price
34:23 <Halcyon> eevblog time
34:23 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 21:34 Sydney time.
34:25 <Halcyon> Yup
34:45 <Halcyon> You would be surprised at Aldi wine. Some of it is quite decent
35:03 <Halcyon> Wolf Blass is what I would consider "entry to lower-mid tier"
35:25 <Halcyon> But still very drinkable, usually much better than crappy house or table wine
35:31 <Antarez> some aldi wine is surprisingly good
35:45 <Antarez> I recommend the Primitivo from german aldi
36:46 <Halcyon> However, don't compare Aussie wines to Wolf Blass. There is *much* better out there
37:05 <Halcyon> My recommendation is to chill it in the fridge for 30-60 minutes before consuming, then let it breath a bit
37:26 <Ysjoelfir> ok? maybe I will try it as soon as the wage comes in. even though it is advertised as a dry wine and I usually don't like dry wines at all. I will give it a show :)
37:40 <Halcyon> Do you normally drink red or white?
37:48 <Lemon> hey guys, I bought the power supply ! The guy will send it this afternoon :>
37:55 <Halcyon> Nice Lemon
38:03 <Halcyon> What did you end up getting?
38:05 <Ysjoelfir> when I drink wine I usually prefer red.
38:19 <Lemon> ho and red wine, please open it and leave it a few hours in a 14-16 degrees area !
38:24 <Lemon> before drinking :>
38:38 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Shiraz/Syrah is quite dry and bold. If that isn't your style, maybe go for a blend or something like a Pinot Noir which is much lighter
38:55 * hsn993 drinks white coffee
38:56 <Halcyon> Aussie reds in general are on the dryer end
39:25 <Lemon> haa shiet the dude just removed the page, its the topward tds 4000, in perfect shape, 2x 30v/2a outputs + a fixed 5v3 amps !
39:30 <Ysjoelfir> in my nongenderspecificcave I have a fridge that is about 12C (for aging my cheese :)). that should work for tempering, shouldn't it?
39:33 <Lemon> 83 euros with shipping
39:36 <Halcyon> However I do find chilling it helps. People look at me weird when I order wine with ice cubes, however don't forget, our "room temperature" is 24+ degrees C
39:42 <Halcyon> It's WAY too warm for red wine
39:48 <Lemon> yeah 12 is alright, no less id say
40:45 <Halcyon> Yeh any less than 10-12 reds start to loose some of their character. Still nice, especially if you don't like big, bold wines, chilling them might be a good way to start
42:11 <Lemon> yeah thats what we do for not so great wines, to make them drinkable :>
42:17 <Lemon> also heres the supply I bought https://www.valuetronics.com/product/tps4000-topward-dc-power-supply-used
42:22 <Lemon> I cant find a better picture
45:26 <Lemon> Im really happy, because if I wanted a new one with those kind of specs, the price would have been horrible
45:35 <Lemon> like 350-400+
47:48 <Halcyon> Very nice
47:54 <Halcyon> Looks well made
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48:42 <Lemon> Input: 110V, 120V, 220V, 240VAC +/- 10%
48:42 <Lemon> Loading Effect: CV: 0.02% + 5mV; CC: 0.02% + 5mA
48:42 <Lemon> Source Effect: CV: 0.02% + 2mA; CC: 0.02% + 0.25mA
48:42 <Lemon> Ripple & Noise: CV: 0.5nV(rms), 4mV(p-p); CC: 0.5nA(rms), 4mA(p-p)
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48:51 <Lemon> specs are really neat
49:04 <Halcyon> Doesn't mean a lot to me
49:14 <Lemon> lots of 0
49:16 <Lemon> thats what matters
49:24 <Lemon> :>
49:37 <Ysjoelfir> If you want I can build you a PSU that outputs lots of zero volt :)
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49:53 <Halcyon> You could market that!
50:01 <Halcyon> High power, 0 volt PSU
50:01 <Halcyon> :P
50:18 <Halcyon> 100,000 Chinese Watts!
50:20 <Ysjoelfir> that would be rather hard :D high current, zero volt would be.... easier-ish
50:22 <Ysjoelfir> ah
50:23 <Ysjoelfir> those watts
50:28 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, that would be cool
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52:19 <Ysjoelfir> boobor seems to be rather quick in changing his oppinion of staying or leaving
52:27 <Halcyon> Seems that way
52:31 <Halcyon> Maybe he is looking for someone?
52:49 <Halcyon> That kiev turned out REALLY nice
52:56 <Halcyon> Perhaps used a bit too much garlic, but whatever
06:25 <Ysjoelfir> Did you ever try german Erbsensuppe (pea soup)?
09:00 <Halcyon> I love pea soup
09:13 <Halcyon> My parents make it with left over Christmas ham every year
10:32 <Ysjoelfir> I like it, too. it's a small tradition for me to eat some, everytime I go to a flea market. there is usually at least one person selling it
11:46 <Ysjoelfir> And I like - even though I'm usually not a fan of convenience food (and even though again, this is not meant to be convenience food) - Erbswurst. Translates to pea sausage and is basically dried and pressed pea soup tablets.
11:57 <Ysjoelfir> just boil that and you get a nice, rich, creamy pea soup
45:53 <K> hello
45:53 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
46:07 <K> woo!
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53:41 <steve30> I finally went to the gym
54:39 <Ysjoelfir> Hi K
54:43 <Ysjoelfir> Hi steve30
58:02 <steve30> my hip is really sore today.
58:11 <steve30> hopefully it'll be better tomorrow since i've just been to the gym
06:51 <Ysjoelfir> It should get better over time :)
08:17 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_WxHkgtOw I should remember that
34:35 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Stock Image FAILS: Best to fuse protect your ohms range, you can never be too sure. https://t.co/qCTRKzgsW2
36:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Stock Image FAILS: Technically, one of the sides of that tantalum cap IS a ground point... https://t.co/50WEZOzSeL
51:56 <steve30> well, its been problematic for a couple of years now. There's a oddly shaped bit of bone so its not going to get better as such, but it does seem to have its good and bad periods.
52:41 <Ysjoelfir> sounds strangely familiar, just with your hip instead of my back
53:07 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/photos/left_hip.png
53:25 <Ysjoelfir> that looks strange
53:55 <steve30> Its lumpy :)
54:08 <Ysjoelfir> my.... backbone (? that thing that connects everything back there) is s-shaped. so I always have some muscles contracted and some relaxed, even while sitting straigth
54:38 <steve30> I imagine that would ache
56:58 <Ysjoelfir> it does. and sadly it's there more or less always
57:09 <Ysjoelfir> like a.... wait, I have to look that word up
57:32 <Ysjoelfir> "spinal disc prolapse"
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