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00:02:48 <coppice_> was this new neighbour a replacement for one which wore out?
00:03:29 <rust_collector> uuh, yes
00:05:21 <rust_collector> the old neighbor was a member so some weird religious cult. Their thing is to have as many kids as possible, so they just grew out of the house
00:07:08 <coppice_> oh, so it was the neighbour's wife who wore out
00:08:04 <rust_collector> she did look pretty robust, but he was not looking great after a while
00:10:16 <coppice_> if you are in one of those cults, like the quiverfulls, you really need to marry for robustness, rather than aesthetic appeal
00:28:34 <rust_collector> okæj, knekkebrø å ost
00:31:41 <Ysjoelfir> jeg elsker ost! Man ikke brunost.
00:32:03 <rust_collector> ooost!
00:32:44 <rust_collector> the best reason to not be a vegan
00:34:05 <rust_collector> and, there are several versions of brunost
00:34:10 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely. You better be a vegetarianerianer. Btw, I recently discovered that our local store now has Snøfrisk.
00:34:29 <rust_collector> uuh, ok...
00:34:36 <Ysjoelfir> I thought so. But the one I tried wasn't realy my taste. or... taste-wise it was nice, but the texture was a but strange.
00:34:45 <Ysjoelfir> like.... grainy
00:34:50 <rust_collector> snørrfrisk
00:35:31 <rust_collector> why the hell would anyone import that... out of all the things they could
00:35:49 <Ysjoelfir> because..... no idea. but it's actually pretty nice
00:36:00 <Ysjoelfir> even though I would have voted for kvik lunsj.
00:36:08 <Ysjoelfir> If I would have to chose one thing to import
00:36:24 <rust_collector> mmkay
00:36:34 <Ysjoelfir> or.... Sjokade. Yes, I like that stuff.
00:37:04 <rust_collector> my cousin used to sit behind the couch and eat sjokade out of the box
00:37:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol
00:37:27 <rust_collector> I was a nugatti person.
00:38:03 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't noticed that one. I should try when I'm the next time there.
00:38:22 <rust_collector> Hmm, and I remember we got banos for special days. i tried it a few years ago, and it tastes crap
00:38:44 <Ysjoelfir> Isn't that the way most childhood memories evolve?
00:38:51 <rust_collector> I guess
00:39:27 <Ysjoelfir> we have a thing here, called "Dreh & Trink". basically a small plastic bottle which you twist (drehen) the top off and drink (trink) what's in it
00:39:32 <Ysjoelfir> I used to love those...
00:39:43 <Ysjoelfir> got one recently... and nearly puked.
00:40:29 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.drehundtrink.com/resources/images/2016/1/18/1/slide-1.png
00:41:13 <rust_collector> what is zimt?
00:41:53 <Ysjoelfir> kanel
00:42:05 <Ysjoelfir> or cinnamon for the english speaking people
00:42:13 <rust_collector> I have never wanted to drink that
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00:43:02 <Ysjoelfir> whoops
00:43:10 <rust_collector> yeah ok, no need to get that upset
00:43:13 <Ysjoelfir> xD
00:43:44 <Ysjoelfir> wanted to close a tab in the browser, hit control - w... but was still in IRC
00:44:31 <rust_collector> hmm, I remember we got cola-beer down there... they said it was common and normal and stuff
00:45:19 <rust_collector> it was a bit different, but it was also really hot that year, so we got it down. we did get used to it, so then we got a lot of it down
00:49:39 <Ysjoelfir> lol :)
00:49:49 <Ysjoelfir> is it like just beer with cola?
00:49:49 <rust_collector> That was the same trip as I discovered that my alcoholic "helper" had a thing for dashboard in the sun hot jäger
00:49:54 <rust_collector> yeah
00:50:04 <rust_collector> maybe cola with beer
00:50:15 <rust_collector> it was....different
00:50:38 <rust_collector> not bad, just weird
00:51:03 <Ysjoelfir> In some regions in germany they mix that themselves. It's usually called Diesel. Where I come from it is rather popular. but you have to drink it fast, otherwise the stuff starts seperating and some nasty floating schmock appears
00:51:24 <Ysjoelfir> brb
00:54:03 <Ysjoelfir> re.
00:54:43 <Ysjoelfir> We also have a thing called "Radler" (like... "cyclist") and "Alsterwasser"
00:55:17 <Ysjoelfir> which is beer with Sprite/7-Up for the Alster and with Fanta for the Radler
00:55:43 <Ysjoelfir> Well, the last depends again on the region, in Frankfurt they somehow got that mixed... A radler in Frankfurt is beer with Sprite
00:56:28 <rust_collector> I dont thing the fanta version is for me.
00:56:48 <rust_collector> but...
00:57:00 <rust_collector> otoh, I don't really drink much beer.
00:57:29 <Ysjoelfir> I don't, too. Only at barbecues or on some rare occasions
00:58:44 <rust_collector> well, you probably know what beer here is
00:58:55 <Ysjoelfir> yes - fucking expensive.
00:59:30 <Ysjoelfir> and rather mild. but I actually enjoyed it after going bankrupt right after buying it
00:59:53 <rust_collector> it is 80% expensive, 10% beer, and 7% water
01:00:10 <Ysjoelfir> what are the remaining 3%?
01:00:47 <DHess_US> Tar. The remaining part is always tar.
01:00:49 <rust_collector> well, if you go to "polet" and buy "pure" ethanol.... you get 60%
01:01:11 <Ysjoelfir> oh, ok. :)
01:02:05 <rust_collector> going by the area you was in, I guess you tried the homemade stuff?
01:02:27 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtiPaSKlHsI
01:03:10 <Ysjoelfir> do they sell that in the stores?
01:03:22 <Ysjoelfir> lol
01:06:22 <rust_collector> In some stores
01:06:39 <Ysjoelfir> then it could be
01:06:54 <rust_collector> it is one of the "under the counter" products
01:07:20 <rust_collector> depends on if the guy with the store runs a still or not
01:07:37 <Ysjoelfir> then potentially not. But I would love to have tried that
01:08:01 <rust_collector> meh, it is just ethanol.
01:08:12 <rust_collector> but at least it is nice and clean
01:08:31 <rust_collector> if it is done properly, anyway
01:09:25 <rust_collector> it was very common 15-20 years ago, then some idiot tried to sell methanol, and then that sort of died out
01:09:54 <Ysjoelfir> yikes
01:09:56 <rust_collector> so now you pretty much have to know someone
01:23:42 <Ysjoelfir> yikes. I should stop probing temperatures of stuff with my fingers.
01:24:02 <rust_collector> why? it tends to work ok
01:24:14 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but its rather unpleasant
01:24:28 <Ysjoelfir> just measured the resistor. it has 119°C
01:24:43 <rust_collector> if it smells like bacon, it is sort of hot. if it smells steak, it is very hot,
01:25:18 <Ysjoelfir> true
01:29:15 <rust_collector> I did work for 2 weeks, at a factory producing wall siding, made out of pebbles and fiberglass. It would slowly go past my chair, and I had to look for defects. if something was wrong, just shove it off the belt. But those things cam out of an oven, and was around 110c, and that resin stuff was gassing out a lot. I don't know how people could do that for years
02:14:08 <rust_collector> yay! an msata ssd. I should use that one in some machine
02:14:24 <Ysjoelfir> yikes oO that sounds horrible!
02:14:36 <Ysjoelfir> I like SSDs :) use it
02:15:00 <rust_collector> yeah, i prefer the seagate laptop platter drives too.
02:15:30 <rust_collector> I don't think I have a machine with a platter drive atm.
02:16:03 <rust_collector> I should put one in this machine, just to store random things
02:17:23 <rust_collector> ok, I am going to see what kind of brakes new neighbor has. They list 3 different versions for that car
02:19:48 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, nice...
02:24:46 <rust_collector> at least it is not too far to go to look at them
02:39:53 <Ysjoelfir> I'm going home. cu later guys
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03:33:25 <rust_collector> about time you got home what have you been doing all this time after work eh? are you going to xxx place to eat junkfood on your way home so you dont have to eat my food?
03:35:05 * Ysjoelfir is lying on the floor, loughing XD
03:35:23 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sorry, honey :(
03:35:23 <rust_collector> sorry
03:35:40 <Ysjoelfir> Next time I won't fix the fallen off license plate from the Volvo
03:35:49 <Ampera> good fucking lord, can you people not RP for one god damned minute
03:35:49 <rust_collector> mjew miooa mo mo
03:36:05 <Ampera> this is the gayest shit...
03:36:21 <rust_collector> what? brown cheese?
03:36:32 <Ysjoelfir> brunost!
03:36:45 <Ysjoelfir> or gammelost?
03:36:53 <rust_collector> uhm no
03:38:52 <rust_collector> gammelost looks like slightly compressed mold
03:39:01 <rust_collector> which it might be
03:41:37 <rust_collector> HEY Ampera
03:42:05 <rust_collector> oh, wait, ice cream
03:43:10 <rust_collector> no ok
03:45:53 <rust_collector> hmm, the prehistoric thinkpad does not have a slot for msata... oh well
03:47:09 <Ysjoelfir> I'm püretty sure gammelost might indeed be compressed mold oO
03:47:38 <Ysjoelfir> but.. is that that bad? some moldy cheeses are pretty tasty
03:48:19 <rust_collector> yeah, they do taste a lot. but I am not sure that makes them taste good
03:48:58 <rust_collector> I tried to eat it a little while ago, but it just did not work
03:49:19 <rust_collector> I had to give it to my dad. he loves that stuff
03:55:29 <Ysjoelfir> it depends strongly on the cheese i guess
03:55:43 <Ysjoelfir> I once tried.... stilton? it was great, but only a little piece
03:55:54 <Ysjoelfir> on the other hand, bavaria blue is absolutely great
03:57:08 <coppice_> do you mean bavarian blue brie? yep, that's good
03:57:37 <rust_collector> i think the most popular moldy cheese here is the danish... blue ... castello?
03:57:44 <rust_collector> something liek that
03:59:56 <Ysjoelfir> coppice_: no, it's really called "Bavaria Blu". it's a regional cheese in germany. But IIRC I also tried the variet you mean and it's equally delicious
04:00:21 <rust_collector> regular not very moldy brie is nice
04:00:42 <Ysjoelfir> rusty: yeah, castello should be correct. I can get that here, its... ok. a bit strong for my taste, like the stilton.
04:01:36 <rust_collector> I once managed to say that i thought camembert and brie are similar. and after that, I think france hates me.
04:01:49 <rust_collector> which is ok, I guess
04:02:29 <coppice_> camembert is like a matured brie, with a stronger taste, so they are similar
04:02:54 <rust_collector> ah, ok
04:03:10 <rust_collector> take that, you france
04:03:52 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
04:03:53 <rust_collector> well, I like those
04:03:56 <Ysjoelfir> I always thought the same
04:04:05 <coppice_> fanboys can be really picky about small differences
04:04:32 <rust_collector> yeah.
04:06:08 <rust_collector> I almost got the same feeling of hate, just 2 times. One was when I called dell support, asking about a laptop something something. he was furious, and started yelling "IT IS NOT A LAPTOP!!! IT IS A MOBILE WORKSTATION!!!!"
04:06:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol? :D
04:06:44 <rust_collector> the other was the time when ireland issued a fatwah, because i said something bad about potatoes
04:07:27 <Ysjoelfir> XD
04:07:45 <coppice_> confusing Maris Piper with a Kind Edwards can really piss off the potatoe people
04:08:23 <Ysjoelfir> who?
04:08:39 <rust_collector> probably some politicians, or actors
04:09:06 <Ysjoelfir> well, I don't know politicians nor actors, so that could very well be
04:10:05 <rust_collector> no wait, "the potatoe people" that is a belorussian
04:12:21 <Ysjoelfir> thats correct
04:12:40 <Ysjoelfir> or slavs in general
04:13:05 <rust_collector> I think they are special
04:13:20 <rust_collector> extra potatoe
04:13:30 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
04:13:39 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog time
04:13:39 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 04:13 Sydney time.
04:13:45 <Ysjoelfir> oh.
04:13:54 <Ysjoelfir> and I was wondering why Halcyon isn't up yet
04:14:00 <rust_collector> time to wake up down there
04:14:08 <coppice_> Its new year in Sydney
04:14:11 <rust_collector> he is not going to work
04:14:18 <rust_collector> and in china, I think?
04:15:05 <rust_collector> not that there is any real difference between sydney and china
04:15:29 <coppice_> yep. i was wishing napppy new year to relatives an hour ago
04:15:33 <coppice_> happy
04:16:06 <Ysjoelfir> a nappy year would be nice, too
04:16:17 <coppice_> no shit
04:16:45 <rust_collector> well, now that they are shutting down cities, I guess they can have many naps
04:17:39 <coppice_> shutting down cities at any time is chaotic, but shutting them down right now is going to be a serious mess
04:18:09 <Ysjoelfir> WHAT!? https://snipboard.io/pePnXx.jpg (translation: click on all fireplugs)
04:19:07 <rust_collector> heh
04:19:27 <rust_collector> the hydrant is right next to the store sign
04:19:53 <Ysjoelfir> next one - click the motorcycles
04:19:57 <Ysjoelfir> you just see asphalt
04:20:21 <rust_collector> yeah, ok, but... wth are you doing?
04:20:34 <Ysjoelfir> trying to download a file
04:20:47 <Ysjoelfir> or
04:20:57 <Ysjoelfir> better: prooving to that fucking website that I am not a robot
04:21:25 <rust_collector> maybe hit enter, because the robots are trying to click all the frames?
04:22:59 <Ysjoelfir> that would be to easy
04:23:33 <rust_collector> well, that is the point
04:24:31 <Ysjoelfir> you could be right
04:24:32 <Ysjoelfir> but no
04:24:34 <Ysjoelfir> you are not
04:24:52 <rust_collector> ok, so where is the bike?
04:25:34 <Ysjoelfir> don't ask me?
04:25:56 <rust_collector> ok, so... get the file?
04:26:09 <Ysjoelfir> i did
04:26:24 <Ysjoelfir> after "solving" like a bazillion "click this and that" pictures
04:26:36 <rust_collector> maybe I should send you a file
04:26:46 <rust_collector> I will make it very easy
04:27:27 <rust_collector> do you see that thing?
04:27:45 <Ysjoelfir> sure!
04:27:59 <rust_collector> well, click it then?
04:28:16 <Ysjoelfir> i did
04:28:42 <rust_collector> heh, it says nothing at all
04:28:53 <rust_collector> "waiting"
04:29:34 <Ysjoelfir> hm
04:29:39 <Ysjoelfir> your thing must be broken
04:29:47 <rust_collector> yeah, makes sense
04:29:56 <rust_collector> damn crappy hexchat
04:30:20 <Ysjoelfir> I used that before I switched to Adiirc. Less problems since then
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04:31:17 <rust_collector> I used to use irssi, but for some reason, it started to disconnect and reconnect, and I think hexchat has not done that much?
04:32:13 <Ysjoelfir> nah. it worked, but I didn't like it somehow. felt... quirky
04:33:17 <rust_collector> I do not really like hexchat, but it was installed, so...
04:45:33 <rust_collector> oh I c
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04:46:42 <Ysjoelfir> it's waiting :D
04:46:52 <rust_collector> says failed here
04:47:04 <rust_collector> DCC SEND connect attempt to Ysjoelfir failed (Invalid argument)
04:47:15 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:47:17 <rust_collector> Not that I know what argument it had
04:51:11 <rust_collector> nah, maybe I should look at power supply circuits again. that is something to do
05:00:20 <Ysjoelfir> We love power supplys :) still looking for something to do with your big transformer?
05:00:49 <rust_collector> no, but I have the smaller stereo amp transformer
05:01:10 <rust_collector> the big one is... not suitable for a bench power sort of thing
05:01:27 <rust_collector> and the big big one is very not
05:08:02 <Ysjoelfir> I meant the amp tranny ;) didn't know you have some larger ones
05:08:26 <rust_collector> I think I remember the amp said it had an output of 350w, so I guess it should be ok for bench use
05:09:31 <rust_collector> i do have a pretty beefy transformer, that will do 600A at 24-ish volts, for some unknown time
05:09:51 <rust_collector> well, the tag says so anyway
05:10:17 <rust_collector> it was a start booster
05:14:31 <rust_collector> anyway, I guess I should see what voltages this thing has on all the wires
05:16:19 <rust_collector> I do not need much voltage or current really. but... i dunno?
05:18:41 <rust_collector> maybe I should start with a smaller unit?
05:21:39 <Ysjoelfir> yikes, 600A is pretty beefy :D you should start with the amp tranny imho. :)
05:23:27 <rust_collector> I also have uhm, one small-ish 24v toroidal, and one similar sized form a stereo, with the million wires. I think that one had a 12-0-12 winding, and a 32v, and some others
05:23:48 <rust_collector> i have to measure those again
05:24:01 <rust_collector> the 24v one is from a garage door opener, lol
05:24:33 <rust_collector> I think the little stereo one is a bit smaller than the garage door one
05:26:08 <rust_collector> mmmh, not to mention a bunch of battery chargers, and random other things
05:26:52 <rust_collector> but yes, the start booster was used to start cranky old clatterpillars and stuff in winter.
05:27:14 <rust_collector> I wonder if it is just a modified welder
05:34:08 <Ysjoelfir> That could well be :)
05:35:32 * Ysjoelfir is thinking about an old project from some time ago.
05:36:15 <rust_collector> I wonder if this one would be a good start: https://imgur.com/a/bsqjgbd
05:36:33 <rust_collector> Just to try something
05:37:29 <rust_collector> even has the 3.8v winding to run some leds
05:43:51 <Ysjoelfir> sure, why not :) looks pretty useable.
05:44:00 <Ysjoelfir> espoecially since it is a torroid
05:44:08 <Ysjoelfir> I like thos more
05:45:06 <rust_collector> They say they are very neat and things. But... how much does it matter in a little beginner bench supply thing?
05:45:27 <Ysjoelfir> nothing I would suppose
05:45:47 <Ysjoelfir> *assume
06:37:56 <DHess_US> In a power supply, 3.8 VAC would be handy to drive the emitter/source follower output transistor into saturation.
06:39:13 <rust_collector> DHess_US, remember I am a complete noob, and uneducated also
06:40:38 <rust_collector> do you have something like an example circuit, that you could point to the emitter/source follower output transistor? Is it "the output transistor"?
06:41:39 <rust_collector> Eh, is it the transistor that controls the main output transistor?
06:41:45 <DHess_US> Yes, Astron linear power supplies use that configuration.
06:42:18 <DHess_US> They have a separate low current winding with a slightly higher voltage than the main output.
06:43:07 <DHess_US> So essentially it allows using an NPN output transistor on a positive regulator but with low dropout.
06:43:36 <DHess_US> Usually the minimum voltage drop would be 3 or more volts.
06:44:54 <DHess_US> http://www.repeater-builder.com/astron/astron-index.html
06:45:02 <DHess_US> http://www.repeater-builder.com/astron/pix/rs3a-rs4a-1989-12-18.gif
06:46:22 <DHess_US> In that example the higher voltage lower current output is feeding drive transistor Q1 and the 723 regulator while the slightly lower voltage but high current output feeds only the output transistor.
07:04:01 <rust_collector> ah, I think I almost got it. I will keep staring at it for a bit
07:08:38 <DHess_US> Check a 723 datasheet so you can see what is inside the IS.
07:08:39 <DHess_US> IC.
07:08:58 <DHess_US> Hmm, LT had some ICs like that.
07:11:38 <DHess_US> A PNP output transistor would not require the higher voltage but in the past, PNP power transistors were more expensive than NPN ones.
07:12:26 <DHess_US> A clever designer might use the NPN transistor on the negative side to make a low dropout regulator. Tektronix commonly did that.
07:12:27 <rust_collector> hmm. I have some tip 36 or 35, I have both. They should be ok for a little bench supply, I think?
07:13:25 <rust_collector> oh, I have somehting else too, but I have to go outside to see what they are...
07:13:41 <DHess_US> Yea, they would be good choices.
07:14:27 <rust_collector> great. but now I have to go outside, to see what those other things are, lol
07:18:18 <rust_collector> mmh, no, those were igbts
07:18:25 <DogWomble> What's this "outside" of which you speak?
07:18:46 <rust_collector> it is the cold part of my home
07:19:14 <rust_collector> in this case, the garage
07:21:02 <DHess_US> DogWomble, some kind of religious thing. Some people believe the set of space minus that bounded by walls is not a null set.
07:21:30 <DHess_US> Supposedly inhabited by a giant orange ball. Whatever.
07:21:38 <DogWomble> you mean it isn't painted on by god?
07:21:46 <rust_collector> hmm, no orange ball here
07:21:49 <DogWomble> and you don't all live in my computer?
07:21:51 <DHess_US> Hey, I didn't say I believed it myself.
07:21:56 <DogWomble> :P
07:23:48 <rust_collector> I go thru the cave, into the colder and darker place. that is what I call outside. Some times there is some things falling down, which melt on my body, and makes it feel weird. I prefer being in my cave
07:29:55 <rust_collector> looking at the 723 "internals" it looks very similar to many of the circuits using regular opamps and a 431 and some stuff...
07:30:59 <DHess_US> rust_collector, that is largely the case although there are some differences. The operational amplifier shown is actually an operational transconductance amplifier with a current instead of voltage output.
07:31:25 <DHess_US> That is pretty common with integrated regulator controllers.
07:32:10 <DHess_US> So it is like the first two stages of a three stage operational amplifier. The second stage is where the frequency compensation would be applied.
07:32:35 <DHess_US> Switching regulator controllers are designed the same way.
07:34:23 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog time
07:34:23 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 07:34 Sydney time.
07:34:26 <Ysjoelfir> hm.
07:34:38 <Ysjoelfir> time for Halcyon to stand up.
07:36:47 <rust_collector> yeah, getting up at 7:30 on a saturday
07:36:58 <rust_collector> He is not that old, is he?
07:38:40 <Ysjoelfir> don't know?
07:38:56 <Ysjoelfir> but I know his recipes are great.
07:39:12 <rust_collector> recipe for disaster
07:40:56 <Ysjoelfir> well, in this case a recipe for a nice dish
07:41:27 <rust_collector> ....
07:41:31 <rust_collector> ?
07:42:27 <rust_collector> cheese?
07:42:40 <rust_collector> no, he just likes "spice"
07:48:28 <Ysjoelfir> its a pie dish :)
07:48:43 <Ysjoelfir> one of the savory kind of pies
07:48:54 <Ysjoelfir> with chicken and shrooms,...
07:49:00 <Ysjoelfir> very tasty
07:49:54 <rust_collector> anything will be tasty, with the correct kind of "shrooms"
07:50:27 <rust_collector> chicken pie...
08:07:05 <Ysjoelfir> damn that was delicious
08:10:00 <rust_collector> sounds complicated. pie, chicken AND mushrooms?
08:18:30 <rust_collector> I really am thinking about starting to smoke again. I am constantly eating something, and nothing tastes anything... Oh well, one more month, than we will see
08:25:20 <Ysjoelfir> don't. it's better for you
08:25:54 <rust_collector> yeah, but it being better worth not tasting my food?
08:25:56 <rust_collector> arrrgh
08:27:34 <Ysjoelfir> my father stopped smoking once, he told me that the sense for taste came back after some months.
08:33:05 <rust_collector> I am getting all these strange ideas. Like starting to do a bit of workout again, but just do one part. say just legs, or something
08:38:15 <Ysjoelfir> why not? don't they say that you shouldnt skip leg day?^^
08:38:56 <rust_collector> no, it is one of the more efficient workouts, just because there is a lot of leg, and they are tough
08:39:06 <Ysjoelfir> you know, like that. https://scoobysworkshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/skipped-leg-day.jpg
08:41:25 <rust_collector> ok, so how much beer goes into your diesel stuff?
08:42:02 <rust_collector> half? more?
08:42:48 <Ysjoelfir> a bit more than half
08:42:59 <rust_collector> going by color, around 70% beer
08:43:07 <rust_collector> ok
08:43:18 <Ysjoelfir> I would say, around 60%
08:43:27 <rust_collector> ok then
08:44:08 <rust_collector> yeah, ok mmhmmm aaaye...
08:44:39 <rust_collector> too bad it is 1c and the sun will be up in 3 months
08:45:26 <rust_collector> I think this would go well with pig bits on a stick
08:46:26 <Ysjoelfir> wow, it's colder here than up at your place?
08:46:46 <rust_collector> temps are all over
08:47:07 <rust_collector> BOUNCE! BOUNCE! BOUNCE! says temp
08:51:11 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D
08:51:39 <rust_collector> this morning, it was 3c here, -6 at work, around 0 for a bit down the road, go thru tunnel, and get snow and 5c, next tunnel, no snow, no degrees, go to the other side of the valley, and you get -8, well, it was a pretty nice drive today, but I heard on the radio, that about 20 minutes west of where I turned around, the road was closed for anything under 7.5t, and trucks were driving in convoys after the plow
08:52:46 <Ysjoelfir> wow. Oo
08:59:59 <rust_collector> https://www.power.com/sites/default/files/product-docs/lnk302_304-306.pdf
09:00:40 <rust_collector> that was an interesting little chip, imo. I have no idea why I would use one, but, I think I could, lol
09:05:28 <Ysjoelfir> sweet little thing. is it really as "cost effective" as they say?
09:06:08 <rust_collector> How would I know? but it looks pretty simple, and it does not take very namy other parts?
09:06:16 <rust_collector> many
09:06:46 <Ysjoelfir> I thought you would have found it including a price^^
09:07:15 <rust_collector> can be reasonably expected to result in significant or death to the user.
09:07:21 <rust_collector> ok
09:07:38 <rust_collector> I did find one, and looked up the data on it, lol
09:07:57 <rust_collector> it was free, so I guess this one is very cost efficient
09:08:47 <Ysjoelfir> sort of
09:09:57 <rust_collector> I am not sure what I would use one for. the sheet mentions a night light, but I don't use that either
09:11:32 <Ysjoelfir> I think it is pretty usefull for small lighting applications
09:12:21 <Ysjoelfir> also for things like nixie or scopeclocks
09:12:29 <rust_collector> eh?
09:12:33 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
09:13:03 <rust_collector> oh, I guess they do higher voltage little current
09:13:15 <rust_collector> what is the scopeclock?
09:13:54 <Ysjoelfir> a scopeclock is a clock displayed on the display tube of a scope
09:14:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.die-wuestens.de/rb/3JP12_4.jpg like that
09:14:42 <rust_collector> a bare tube?
09:14:53 <Ysjoelfir> yes
09:14:55 <rust_collector> but ok.
09:15:02 <Ysjoelfir> well, and a bit circuitry
09:15:08 <rust_collector> yeah
09:15:15 <Ysjoelfir> http://up.picr.de/24644625gx.jpg
09:15:18 <Ysjoelfir> like that
09:18:12 <rust_collector> pretty nerdy
09:21:37 <coppice_> That looks very much like a tube I used as a teenager to develop my own scope
09:36:06 <steve30> I was looking at CRT clocks some years back. They look awesome.
09:44:31 <DHess_US> Sorry, I'm not impressed unless analog character generation is used.
09:45:04 <DHess_US> Which oddly enough would be pretty easy to do but the techniques have been largely lost.
09:48:05 <Ysjoelfir> many techniques are getting lost, sadly...
09:48:44 <Ysjoelfir> I notice that pretty often in many fields
09:52:42 <coppice_> The amusing thing is when some young engineer tells you something you built long ago was IMPOSSIBLE at that time :)
09:58:21 <rust_collector> i Like this gUy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9CI6KSV560
10:24:37 <Ysjoelfir> fascinating o.o
10:25:01 <rust_collector> he has many videos about cool things
10:36:50 <steve30> I might do some food
10:37:23 <rust_collector> food is...ok
10:39:44 <DogWomble> food is necessary
10:41:21 <Halcyon> Morning all
10:41:29 <rust_collector> hey-o
10:41:34 <steve30> a halcyon!
10:41:50 <rust_collector> one is enough of some
10:41:57 <rust_collector> things
10:42:21 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
10:43:50 <Ysjoelfir> Hey Halcyon :)
10:44:18 <Ysjoelfir> We had a splendid meal this evening
10:44:19 <rust_collector> that is chef Halcyon
10:44:31 <rust_collector> famous chef guy
10:44:40 <Halcyon> You liked it Ysjoelfir ?
10:44:58 <Halcyon> You can basically chuck any veg you like in it. Those are the ones I chose.
10:45:45 <rust_collector> veg? you didn't mention any veg. well, the muxhrooms, but
10:45:48 <Ysjoelfir> Yes, we enjoyed it very mich :)
10:45:50 <Halcyon> And corn
10:45:52 <Halcyon> And leek
10:46:09 <Ysjoelfir> yes. there were some of those green things in it ;-P
10:46:15 <Halcyon> :P
10:46:19 <Halcyon> It's healthy
10:46:20 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir just said it was made out of chicken mushrooms and pies
10:46:23 * steve30 pounces onto Halcyon
10:46:38 <Halcyon> I can email you the recipe if you want rust_collector
10:46:53 <rust_collector> oh, please do. all sorts of food things
10:47:09 <Halcyon> Send me your email
10:48:13 <rust_collector> social engineering hacker guy
10:48:27 <rust_collector> I sent it on the phone thingie
10:48:28 <Halcyon> Done
10:48:34 <rust_collector> YAAY!
10:50:05 <rust_collector> ok, that does sound like something good
10:50:57 <rust_collector> thanks, I think I might annoy the wife with that one of the days
10:51:46 <Halcyon> It's much better for you because it doesn't use cream and the pastry is super thin
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10:53:16 <Ysjoelfir> well, my pastry wasn't, but just because I got the wrong stuff. But it was tasty indeed :)
10:54:29 <steve30> I've put a fishcake in
10:54:46 <Halcyon> You really are a cat aren't you Steve?
10:54:55 <steve30> Meow :p
10:55:08 <DogWomble> um ... woof?
10:55:31 * steve30 hisses at DogWomble
10:55:34 <rust_collector> moo?
10:55:57 * DogWomble whimperss at steve30
10:56:00 <steve30> Halcyon, so far I'm getting on OK with the Mikrotik router
10:56:25 <Halcyon> Nice :)
10:57:35 <steve30> It worked OK until I established the L2TP connection, at which point the speed went ridiculously slow. The culprit turned out to be a "fast track" firewall rule, which is supposed to speed things up.
11:02:59 <Halcyon> \o/
11:07:38 <steve30> How's jerry?
11:11:36 <Halcyon> He's good
11:11:38 <Halcyon> You can't eat him
11:16:19 <steve30> How's Mark?
11:18:32 <Halcyon> Yeh good
11:19:21 <rust_collector> like tasty, or? you people make me confused
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11:20:05 <steve30> Is Mark food?
11:21:10 <rust_collector> I don't know anything any more
11:25:52 <wwelti> Hey there EEVBlog! Thanks for your cool vids. Just watched #1178 on YT and found it really helpful! I want to point out one thing: Regarding the MMIC amplifier chip used in that cheap chinese LNA circuit, you wrote in the vid "This one is max 7V supply though, so not it". However this is a biased transistor circuit, so Vd will be considerably lower
11:25:52 <wwelti> than Vcc. I think it's very likely that indeed the INA-02184 is used a lot in these cheap LNA's.
11:26:41 * Ysjoelfir goes to bed.
11:26:43 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 all
11:26:50 <wwelti> gn8
11:36:36 <steve30> I feel a bit better now I've had some food. I'll probably sleep better now :)
11:37:53 <steve30> Halcyon, what David2 doing now he's left?
11:38:53 <Halcyon> I'm not sure
11:39:43 <steve30> I wondered if you might have kept him for yourself :p
11:41:33 <Halcyon> Hah I wish
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11:53:26 <steve30> I think I'll go to bed
11:53:32 <Halcyon> I need to go mow the lawns
11:53:35 <Halcyon> *moan*
11:53:49 <steve30> snuggle up with me instead :)
11:54:18 <Halcyon> But that doesn't get the grass mowed :P
12:31:22 <DogWomble> just buy yourself a few sheep :P
12:31:32 <DogWomble> maybe a goat or two
12:31:42 <DogWomble> they'll take care of your lawns
12:54:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And there goes my lab aircon mysteriously switching on again in the middle of the night. https://t.co/bFIKW4rhxz
12:56:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: BTW, you can follow my lab environmental data live here: https://t.co/zMmY6FtLMf
13:07:55 <DHess_US> obligatory, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CpcxaSFPEKg/UpfX5SAi1BI/AAAAAAAAAIg/WYNvSVUlT5k/s1600/WidlarSheep3_readingjimwilliams.jpg
13:16:28 <coppice_> a historic sheep, from the days when Nat Semi had a World Headquarters
13:18:15 <DHess_US> Just to be clear, National Semiconductor was not a nice company.
13:18:34 <DHess_US> There is a reason so many left National to form Linear Technology
13:23:29 <Halcyon> Heheh Gort
13:23:54 <coppice_> people seemed happy there in the 70s, but it got really messed up in recent years before TI took over
13:24:28 <coppice_> in the 70s is was a full spectrum semi company, but bad moves stopped it growing, and forced it out of many product areas
13:26:16 <Ampera> Halcyon, how do
13:26:49 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera, not too bad, yourself?
13:27:03 <Ampera> I got a letter in the mail from my school.
13:27:31 <Halcyon> Letter? Mail?
13:27:40 <Halcyon> What century do you live in?
13:27:45 <Halcyon> :P
13:28:26 <coppice_> I live in the 25th century
13:28:31 <Ampera> It was a nice, large, certificate stating I was on the President's list for having a GPA >3.7/4
13:28:34 <Halcyon> I don't even have a mailbox at home
13:28:49 <Halcyon> Kew
13:28:54 <Halcyon> That's good (I guess?)
13:28:57 <Ampera> I also got a package with 100 Verbatim CD's
13:29:06 <coppice_> Halcyon: where does all your junk mail go?
13:29:46 <Halcyon> I don't get junk mail
13:29:50 <Halcyon> It just never gets delivered to me
13:30:24 <coppice_> it doesn't just get scattered on the front lawn, or something?
13:30:33 <Halcyon> Nope
13:43:58 <Ampera> these CDs smell like maraschino cherries
13:44:12 <Ampera> with a slight hint of carcinogen
13:44:27 <coppice_> those porn CDs always were pretty fruity
13:44:28 <Halcyon> Heheh I know exactly what you mean
13:44:37 <DogWomble> i have a mailbox at home, for the maybe twice a year i get delivered something :P
13:44:48 <Halcyon> I have a PO Box for deliveries
13:44:49 <Ampera> mail comes every day and we usually get mail every day
13:44:58 <Ampera> I should start writing people letters, I think that might be a fun hobby.
13:45:01 <Halcyon> Also, anyone want to buy a router? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/133314814934?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
13:45:09 <Halcyon> I'll knock some cash off it for EEVblog fans
13:45:23 <Ampera> good lord
13:45:46 <Halcyon> I can't find the power supply though
13:46:08 <DHess_US> coppice_, I'm sure they were happy to have a job. But look through for instance National's application notes and notice that author names are not included.
13:46:28 <DHess_US> That was deliberate to remove attribution to authors.
13:46:31 <Ampera> I think I might cook some rice in my rice cooker
13:46:36 <Ampera> which cooks rice
13:46:41 <Halcyon> I need to buy a rice cooker that cooks rice
13:46:51 <Ampera> I was given one for my birthday
13:46:59 <DHess_US> Then look at Linear Technology application notes where the author names are included in every one.
13:47:05 <coppice_> DHess_US: that's common, and definitely better than places that put "wrong" names on papers
13:47:08 <Halcyon> Did you see the technology connections video about rice cookers?
13:47:28 <coppice_> I have actual rice cookers
13:47:37 <DHess_US> coppice_, I don't care if it was common. It is why National Semiconductor was a crummy place to work and why so many left.
13:47:52 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSTNhvDGbYI
13:48:02 <Halcyon> I actually had no idea how they worked. But they are so simple.
13:48:15 <Halcyon> I just assumed it was some strange timer/weight based thing
13:48:43 <coppice_> the olde worlde rice cookers are quite simple. the fuzzy logic ones give better results, though
13:48:47 <DHess_US> Look for little things like that to gauge how companies treat their employees.
13:49:12 <Halcyon> coppice_: I actually find the opposite is true. I've never had a bad batch of rice from a "traditional" rice cooker
13:49:56 <coppice_> do you get bad results from fuzzy logic cookers?
13:50:15 <Halcyon> I can't say I've really used may fuzzy logic cookers
13:50:19 <Halcyon> *many
13:50:26 <DHess_US> Fuzzy logic rice cookers?
13:50:38 <Halcyon> I prefer the scientific approach of physics and such
13:50:47 <Halcyon> DHess_US: Watch that video I linked in, it explains it
13:50:56 <coppice_> most rice cookers in asia are now microprocessor controlled, yet lots of the olde worlde ones seem to be available in europe
13:51:07 <DHess_US> https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/digital-ics/article/21757343/whats-all-this-fuzzy-logic-stuff-anyhow
13:51:11 <DHess_US> Start there.
13:51:55 <Halcyon> Most of ours are this type: https://www.bigw.com.au/product/kambrook-8-cup-rice-express-rice-cooker-krc80cho/p/473118/
13:52:36 <coppice_> in asia those are now for the desperately poor
13:52:56 <Halcyon> I like them because they are so simple and produce good results
13:53:04 <Ampera> Halcyon, I have the exact same rice cooker he has in the video
13:53:08 <Ampera> with the exact same mechanism
13:53:11 <Ampera> and it works fine
13:53:11 <Halcyon> No crappy buttons to wear out
13:53:21 <Ampera> I've put a cup of rice in, two chicken stock cubes, and a lob of butter
13:53:34 <coppice_> they are good for getting the cooked point about right, but they tend to product rice without much flavour
13:53:53 <Halcyon> I generally don't flavour my rice. Just 1 part rice to 1.5 parts water.
13:54:08 <Ampera> different rices have different irrigation requirements
13:54:10 <Ampera> this rice is 2:1
13:54:20 <Halcyon> coppice_: Oh agreed, but I would only literally use it to make plain white rice. The flavour comes from the rest of the disah
13:54:21 <Halcyon> dish
13:54:46 <Halcyon> *nod* Brown and black rice tends to require more water
13:55:00 <Halcyon> Mind you, black rice isn't actually rice, it's a grass
13:55:01 <coppice_> the rice cooker we use heats by induction, and pressure cooks the rice. you'd think pressure cooking would be faster, but this one is actually slower than the non-pressure cooking version
13:56:00 <Ampera> I've added onion powder and pepper just to spite Halcyon
13:56:29 <DHess_US> Pressure cooking is always faster. Maybe it takes longer to heat up.
13:56:30 <Halcyon> I'm not adverse to adding spices and flavour at the cooking stage
13:56:36 <Halcyon> It's just not something I commonly do
13:56:49 <coppice_> nope. it heats up quite quickly
13:56:55 <Halcyon> If you are after a plain type of rice dish, then yeh I can see the merit
13:56:56 <DHess_US> Not quickly enough apparently.
13:57:22 <coppice_> it keeps the rice under pressure for about 35 minutes
13:57:25 <DHess_US> Pressure cooking happens at a higher temperature which is why it takes longer to hard boil an egg at altitude.
13:58:20 <Ampera> I miss having a chinese takeout place within walking distance
13:58:29 <coppice_> the pressure cooking rice cookers all say they are not for speed, they are for improved texture and flavour, and they do give better results
13:58:33 <Ampera> when I was staying in connecticut there was a stellar one just a mile away
13:58:37 <Halcyon> 35 minutes is a long time to cook rice
13:58:38 <DHess_US> I miss having Chinese food at all. Missouri just has Panda Express or whatever it is.
13:58:52 <Ampera> I have a normal pressure cooker, it's just that the thing is huge
13:59:03 <Ampera> so unless I intend to make a few pounds of rice at once, it's not all that useful
13:59:12 <DHess_US> Yea, I've never seen a small pressure cooker. It doesn't scale down well.
13:59:46 <DHess_US> Nothing prevents putting a little rice inside with more water if you have a basket or something.
14:00:09 <Ampera> my boring standard rice cooker does just fine
14:00:11 <coppice_> the people who make most of the electronic pressure cookers, like Instant Pot and most others, do make small ones, but you don't see many in the shops
14:00:17 <Ampera> the only reason I really want one is so that I don't have to use the stove.
14:00:24 <coppice_> probably about 3 litres
14:00:25 <Ampera> and that it's automatic so I don't have to care about time
14:00:36 <Halcyon> The only cooking appliance I have apart from my stove and oven is a slow cooker
14:00:42 <DHess_US> I'm wondering if they operate at such a small increase in pressure that it is just for markettign purposes.
14:00:43 <Halcyon> I don't have any other hot gadget
14:00:44 <Ampera> coppice_, my mom has a smaller instant pot since she lives in a small apartment.
14:00:58 <DHess_US> The pressure cookers I have used were more like steam boilers with a little engine on top.
14:01:04 <Ampera> we had an air fryer, which I actually kind of want, but the heating element shit itself (literally) after the second use.
14:01:34 <Halcyon> What I don't get, how is an air fryer any different to an oven?
14:01:39 <Ampera> I presume the instant pot, which is what I have, is effectively how coppice_ described his rice cooker, an induction element that heats things up, thus pressurizing stuff
14:01:53 <Ampera> Halcyon, not that much different to a /convection oven/
14:02:01 <coppice_> Instant Pots don't use induction heating
14:02:11 <Ampera> coppice_, do they not? then I have no clue how they work
14:02:33 <Halcyon> Most ovens built anytime in the last 20 years are convection ovens?
14:03:01 <Ampera> we've never used the convection in our oven, but what makes small appliances like that handy are the convenience factor
14:03:07 <Halcyon> I mean we had a "traditional" gas oven about 30+ years ago when I was growing up
14:03:11 <coppice_> they use a resistive heater, and as it gets things hot it deforms a bimetal plate that deforms, and pushing the pot up until it squeeze the seal
14:03:13 <Ampera> you don't have to heat up the whole oven and get a large sheet pan out just to make some fries
14:04:03 <Ampera> we have a few other hot appliances, we have a fry vat, which is absolutely useless, a sandwich press, which is quite nice
14:04:06 <Halcyon> Yes well that's true
14:04:08 <Ampera> air popper
14:04:16 <Halcyon> But electricity is reasonably cheap
14:04:20 <Halcyon> So *shrug*
14:04:28 <DHess_US> <Halcyon> What I don't get, how is an air fryer any different to an oven?
14:04:44 <coppice_> The cooker we have a slight variant of https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-Induction-Pressure-Stainless-NP-NVC10/dp/B009QYC5K4?th=1
14:04:56 <Halcyon> My sandwich press is simply a cast iron fry pan on a gas hob
14:04:58 <DHess_US> I suspect the difference is that unlike a convection oven, it applies the heat more directly and has provisions to handle the fat dripping off.
14:05:26 <Ampera> that is not a cheap appliance
14:05:30 <Halcyon> DHess_US: Fat dripping off can be achieved by placing food on a rack inside the oven tray.
14:05:31 <DHess_US> So like an air popper that can handle grease.
14:05:34 <coppice_> those air fryers are like a fan oven with a very rapid flow of air
14:05:37 <DogWomble> `
14:05:44 <Ampera> hi DogWomble
14:05:50 <DHess_US> Halcyon, but then the convection is not as direct.
14:05:52 <Halcyon> And if you want direct heat, you can use the top and/or bottom elements
14:06:09 <DHess_US> Then it isn't a convection oven.
14:06:26 <Ampera> we have a gas oven
14:06:26 <Halcyon> My oven has top, bottom and rear elements
14:06:32 <Ampera> electric ovens can go die
14:06:37 <Halcyon> Almost all of the ones I've seen are the same
14:06:44 <DHess_US> Some ovens have convection and radiation modes.
14:07:02 <Ampera> I wish our stove was pilot light, though, the piezo sparkers are total shit
14:07:24 <Halcyon> Ampera, whilst I love gas cooking, electric ovens are far superior to gas
14:07:32 <Ampera> Halcyon, in what manner
14:07:42 <Halcyon> They heat much more evenly and you get tighter controls on where the heat is directed
14:07:56 <coppice_> Ampera: gas hobs are good, but gas ovens are a PITA. They achieve a much less stabe and consistent temperature than electric ovens
14:07:59 <Ampera> we have two gas burners in our oven, top and bottom, with a convection fan.
14:08:04 <Halcyon> For example, I can have my bottom element hotter than the top element for things like bakes or pies
14:08:08 <Ampera> The temperatures we get are perfectly fine
14:08:16 <Ampera> I can do the exact same thing
14:08:26 <Halcyon> Sure, but it's fully automated
14:08:30 <Halcyon> I don't have to adjust a thing
14:08:37 <Ampera> mine is electric and computerized
14:08:40 <Ampera> which I hate
14:08:42 <Ampera> but it is "automated"\
14:08:54 <Ampera> (as in the control is electric)
14:09:04 <Halcyon> Mine also has a temperature probe on the inside for things like meats
14:09:13 <Halcyon> So I can set an internal meat temperature and it takes care of the rest
14:09:28 <Ampera> mmm, it smells of chickeny butter
14:09:52 <Halcyon> Oh Ampera
14:09:58 <Halcyon> I have more ramen for you to try
14:10:03 <Halcyon> (Not stupidly hot this time)
14:10:09 <Ampera> send it along :P
14:10:12 <Halcyon> I shall
14:10:17 <Ampera> I need to think of shit to send to you
14:10:24 <Ampera> starting with decent jerky
14:10:25 <Halcyon> You don't need to send me anything
14:10:32 <Ampera> since apparently australians don't know how to make it >:D
14:10:39 <Halcyon> Oh harsh, I like our jerky
14:10:49 <Halcyon> I get that Kangaroo isn't for everyone
14:10:49 <Ampera> dry as a bone and tough as leather
14:10:53 <Halcyon> Yes
14:10:54 <Halcyon> Jerky
14:10:55 <Halcyon> :P
14:10:55 <Ampera> no the kangaroo was actually nice
14:11:01 <Halcyon> I know it's nice
14:11:08 <Ampera> nobody else liked it, but I ate the whole bag
14:11:12 <Ampera> the spicy stuff we good too
14:11:15 <Ampera> it was the beef that was awful
14:12:02 <Ampera> (like the plain jerky)
14:12:14 <Ampera> anyways, we have stellar jerky here, I'll get some and send it along at some point
14:12:22 <Ampera> but I need to think of other stuff to pack up and ship
14:12:59 <Ampera> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPCLr20WoAEgC7o?format=jpg&name=small Halcyon
14:13:34 <Halcyon> ROFL, Be African
14:13:59 <Ampera> I have a friend from Egypt actually, and he's pretty nice.
14:14:14 <Halcyon> Also Ampera, I have not once been bitten or stung by anything apart from a paper wasp.
14:14:58 <Ampera> where I live is the land of the fucking mosquito
14:15:09 <Halcyon> Mosquitos can get fucked
14:15:13 <Ampera> if you're ANYWHERE in the woods, you will get 20 bites a day
14:15:19 <Halcyon> They don't seem to like my blood though, perhaps too much alcohol? :P
14:15:39 <Ampera> Something strange about mosquito bites, I find the more I'm bitten, the faster all of them go away
14:15:43 <DHess_US> http://lib.ru/ZELQZNY/Collector_sFever.txt
14:17:00 <Ampera> BOOO, DHess_US BOOO
14:17:12 <Ampera> I'm in 4 sentences and nobody's gotten raped yet
14:17:14 <Ampera> BOOOO
14:17:22 * Halcyon rapes Ampera
14:17:35 <DHess_US> Shut up or I will send you a rock.
14:18:19 <Ampera> DHess_US, I have a rock, it's called my cock, it's a bit of a shock, but it'll smack you unconscious with a thok, it grows and shrinks to a clock, I have a massive cock.
14:18:40 <DHess_US> Can your rock deeble? If not then shut up.
14:19:59 <Ampera> my rice is almost done
14:20:00 <Ampera> I like rice
14:20:22 <Halcyon> I think Ampera is turning Japanese ;-)
14:20:48 <Ampera> yes, because the Japanese are the only people who ever eat rice
14:21:40 <Halcyon> It was a reference to the song
14:21:43 <Halcyon> But whatever
14:21:52 <DHess_US> I got it Halcyon.
14:21:56 <Halcyon> :)
14:22:09 <DHess_US> Have you seen the modern video?
14:22:14 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWWwM2wwMww
14:22:21 <Halcyon> Nope?
14:22:47 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0X3CLJVMJU
14:23:10 <Halcyon> I feel like I'm going to hate this...
14:23:44 <Halcyon> Mmm the guitar riff is pretty good
14:23:56 <DHess_US> Naw, it's pretty good considering who is in it. They finally found something she does well.
14:24:04 <Halcyon> Argh, the compression on the audio track sounds like shit though
14:24:11 <DHess_US> It does but I can't help that.
14:24:30 <Halcyon> The moron that uploaded that and thinks that it's HD is sadly mistaken
14:24:35 <DHess_US> Lossy compression is not kind to clipping.
14:24:48 <DHess_US> There might be a better version somewhere. /shrug
14:26:11 <Halcyon> Time for some Computer Chronicles I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD2LhjtcSWI
14:34:04 * Halcyon noms on pretzels
14:35:10 <Halcyon> DogWomble, T3sl4, Ampera: Golf?
14:35:44 <Ampera> I AM EATING RICE YOU COCK
14:36:04 * Halcyon thumps Ampera with his cock
14:36:14 <Halcyon> Fuck ya then
14:36:22 <Ampera> felt like a fly just landed on me
14:36:46 <Halcyon> Hah, I think you're version of "large" in America is "average" here
14:37:01 <Halcyon> I'm basically a subject matter expert soooo yeh
14:37:02 <Halcyon> :P
14:37:16 <DogWomble> so you're an SME in tiny bits?
14:37:40 <Halcyon> Well, I'm gay, and have slept with my fair share of guys :P
14:43:24 <Ampera> Halcyon, American large is subway footlong
14:43:39 <Halcyon> Yeh but even Subway footlong isn't "foot long"
14:43:48 <Ampera> but the girth, son
14:43:50 <Ampera> the girth
14:43:57 <Halcyon> Eh
14:44:14 <Ampera> my penis is horse cock status
14:44:18 <Halcyon> Pfft
14:44:32 <Halcyon> My Little Pony perhaps
14:51:06 <Ampera> I might get my VR headset out and play some No Man's Sky
14:51:17 <Halcyon> What is that?
14:51:46 <Ampera> man Halcyon you really do live under a rock
14:52:00 <Halcyon> No, I live on an island
14:52:12 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5BJVO3PDeQ Halcyon
14:52:21 <Ampera> This documentary should explain everything
14:54:06 <Ampera> I should really clean shit up first, though
14:54:13 <Ampera> I might grab some music and do more cleaning
14:54:22 <Halcyon> Yeh me too
14:54:25 <Halcyon> The kitchen is a mess
14:54:29 <Ampera> my life is a mess
14:54:38 * Halcyon cleans up Ampera
14:57:41 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://i.imgur.com/YHqVAgx.jpg
14:57:57 <Halcyon> Bahahaha
14:58:52 <Ampera> My mac pro's optical drive doesn't seem to be working
14:59:01 <Ampera> so I need to figure out a way to replace it or repair it
14:59:03 <Halcyon> What kind of drive is it? I may have a spare
15:00:32 <Ampera> somewhat special form factor apple CD/DVD drive
15:00:43 <Ampera> I have optical drives, I just don't know if they'll fit.
15:01:00 <Halcyon> Hm I wasn't aware Apple used proprietary form factor drives?
15:01:10 <Halcyon> All the ones I've pulled out have been standard size
15:01:49 <Ampera> the tray is a special form factor because it has a special front cover
15:03:11 <Ampera> It might even just be the IDE cable, idk.
15:03:18 <Halcyon> Is this how you cook Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdBrt0Jqa3o
15:03:19 <Halcyon> Heh
15:04:14 <Ampera> no because I'm not an absolute and complete mong
15:04:49 <Halcyon> :P
15:08:07 <T3sl4> Ampera: Hmong, you lacist plick.
15:08:18 <T3sl4> oh, wait~~
15:08:33 <Halcyon> Oh herrow T3sl4
15:08:46 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVz96aT9-Hs
15:09:02 <T3sl4> ha
15:12:48 <DogWomble> Halcyon, if you want to know how I cook - this would be it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFnN7Ym_xZ4
15:13:10 <Halcyon> Hah
15:14:03 <DogWomble> "40% donkey shit pipe...."
15:17:55 <T3sl4> i made myself fish and chips today, with cole slaw side
15:18:06 * T3sl4 waggles a fry at DogWomble
15:18:16 <DogWomble> yum! food :D
15:27:36 <Halcyon> Such a good remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocH-aauM_wU
15:29:13 <Ampera> Halcyon, discord for a few minute?
15:29:14 <Ampera> s
15:29:19 <Halcyon> Sure
15:29:35 <Halcyon> Standby, need to login
15:31:25 <Ampera> standby
15:35:37 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/T8BEQWA.png
15:37:37 <Halcyon> I don't get it?
15:40:25 <Halcyon> Ampera, I have lost your audio and video
15:40:57 <Ampera> standby
15:41:09 <Halcyon> Video is back but looks like garbage and keeps cutting out
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16:30:02 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://twitter.com/41Strange/status/1220816677870305280
16:31:38 <Halcyon> Fatty
16:35:53 <Halcyon> Cheese and pretzels go together really well
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16:40:49 <Halcyon> It's sad those American's were killed fighting fires here :(
16:41:05 <Halcyon> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/bodies-of-hero-american-firefighters-recovered-from-rural-crash-site/news-story/84612111571464f7ffacdfa4fc48a58f
16:41:12 <Halcyon> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/bodies-of-hero-american-firefighters-recovered-from-rural-crash-site/news-story/84612111571464f7ffacdfa4fc48a58f
16:41:14 <Halcyon> Even
16:46:41 <Ampera> Halcyon, I've got NetBSD running on the iBook G4
17:06:52 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/TOcK4Ka.jpg
17:08:15 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Pink flowering gum https://t.co/TFsb6GKTgy
17:40:47 <Halcyon> YAY
17:41:18 <T3sl4> ohgod
17:41:24 <Halcyon> ROFL T3sl4
17:41:25 <T3sl4> this guy just pronounced "JSON"
17:41:30 <T3sl4> not you
17:41:33 * T3sl4 slaps Halcyon
17:41:40 <Halcyon> Jason?
17:41:42 <Ampera> Now I'm trying OpenBSD
17:41:44 <Halcyon> Who is Jason?
17:41:44 <T3sl4> you'd think but no
17:41:47 <T3sl4> "jizzon"
17:41:49 <Ampera> since NetBSD decided to not install a functioning bootloader
17:41:52 <Halcyon> NO
17:42:17 <Halcyon> I mean, yes, but now
17:42:19 <Halcyon> *no
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17:43:16 * T3sl4 loads a boot into Ampera's butt https://i.imgur.com/QwUdeJW.jpg
17:43:55 * Ampera doots Halcyon
17:43:58 <Ampera> er T3sl4
17:44:02 <Ampera> whatever, you both get dooted
17:45:10 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/K16k6rI.jpg
17:45:28 <Halcyon> I don't get it?
17:45:47 <Ampera> D00T
17:48:31 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzPpWInAiOg
17:48:50 <Ampera> OpenBSD boots!
17:48:53 <Ampera> \o/
18:38:14 * Halcyon boots Ampera
18:38:33 <Halcyon> I still don't get it T3sl4 ?
18:38:49 <T3sl4> what
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18:45:37 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542853460157136896/670534691291529246/screenFetch-2020-01-25_02-43-21.png
18:45:51 <Halcyon> It's alive!
18:46:15 <Ampera> That's the iBook G4
18:46:27 <Ampera> only minor issue is I only have one mouse button >:(
18:46:38 <Halcyon> Blame Crapple for that shit
18:47:13 <Ampera> fuck you, I love apple, they paid me to say that
18:47:16 <Ampera> that's how much they love me
18:51:56 <Halcyon> :P
18:52:16 <Halcyon> I love how easy it is to defeat their passwords on their IOS devices
18:52:27 <Halcyon> It makes my jobs so much quicker :)
19:03:34 * T3sl4 pays Ampera for a hug
20:36:57 * DogWomble_ sets up Hugeroo ... it's just like Delvieroo, but for hugs
20:56:27 * T3sl4 hugs DogWomble_
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