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02:39 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D
33:05 <hsn93> do i've to look for stuff like (guard ring of pn junction) if i want to have surge protection or im overlooking stuff? ..
51:34 <rust_collector> eloh?
52:02 <Ysjoelfir> ei
52:21 <rust_collector> tjo-bing!
53:00 <rust_collector> hmm, someone has tipped over my vodka bottle, while I was at work
53:22 <Ysjoelfir> :O kill him
54:35 <rust_collector> I did, now what?
54:51 <Ysjoelfir> don't know. are you hungry?
55:18 <rust_collector> yea, but I made grilles cheese things
55:25 <Ysjoelfir> hm
57:30 <Ysjoelfir> I had tomatoes
57:44 <rust_collector> you just never learn, do you?
58:08 <rust_collector> why do you keep rotten things?
58:28 <rust_collector> or eat them
59:40 <rust_collector> well, if that is your thing... i guess that is...your thing
07:38 <rust_collector> butt, do you see tomatoes as a kind of food, or as something you have in/on food? I do not mind tomatoes, but I never buy them to eat as they are
11:43 <Ysjoelfir> Those were fresh. at least the ones I had yet
11:55 <Ysjoelfir> and actually rather delicious
12:20 <rust_collector> hmmmm. that is weird
13:24 <rust_collector> ok, I guess you got lucky this time
13:58 <Ysjoelfir> maybe
14:19 <rust_collector> arrf, sorry, my brain is not awake. replace all the words and stuff until they make sense, ok?
14:52 <Ysjoelfir> It sounds pretty logical to me?
15:17 <rust_collector> uh, great
16:09 <hsn93> num num
16:30 <rust_collector> that sounds like a brand of noodles
17:31 <hsn93> last time noodles = was my first and last fake chineese food experience
18:07 <rust_collector> are you sure they were fake?
18:27 <rust_collector> dad was in china for work, and after that, he hates noodles
18:46 <hsn93> idk but there was no wooden sticks or what ever tool they eat with
19:01 <rust_collector> oh no!
19:44 <hsn93> but tbh i dont think it will differ from chineese, i know the smell i know this food is not for me
20:24 <rust_collector> the smell of noodles
20:26 <rust_collector> ok
23:52 <hsn93> i finally found someone from my area who cares about electronics https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?u=110312
25:47 <rust_collector> do you know how close he is? I guess it can be a long walk, if he is on the other side
28:30 <hsn93> yeah i dont think he is close but idk
29:03 <rust_collector> it is worth asking, I guess?
29:17 <hsn93> for now, its reliefing that he exist :D
30:02 <hsn93> he doesnt seem want to answer https://snipboard.io/C9A2yI.jpg
30:40 <rust_collector> oh well
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10:47 <hsn993> cya
28:59 <rust_collector> have fun
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25:23 <Ysjoelfir> hi
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59:09 <DHess_US> Brings a tear to my eye, https://imgur.com/gallery/PSjihxp
46:15 <Halcyon> Morning all
47:48 <steve30> hi Halcyon
48:42 <steve30> Halcyon, swimming was good earlier :) I did 1750M
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26:18 <Ysjoelfir> evening haclyon
26:25 <Ysjoelfir> evening steve
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49:53 <steve30> I see they have one of those backwards keyboards
15:10 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Spending a few hours going through all the @TheAmpHour listener survey responses, there is a lot!
33:37 <MrMobodies> Hello, check this out
33:38 <MrMobodies> https://inews.co.uk/news/technology/future-smart-roads-play-music-generate-electricity-charge-cars-1372032
34:28 <MrMobodies> I found it in a newspaper and I made a complaint, very disappointed as I believed it not to be a biased one.
35:54 <MrMobodies> The Royal Society of Journals call it a study.
36:17 <MrMobodies> And they talk about it "melting snow"
36:29 Nick: Ampera1 is now known as Ampera
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45:12 <MrMobodies> I have just got a letter than my ISP wants their routers back and one which has been here for about 3 months.
45:46 <Ampera> MrMobodies, who is your ISP
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49:20 <MrMobodies> It is XLN: Business or Onebill
50:31 <MrMobodies> They just use TalkTalk and Tiscali's residential network
50:58 <MrMobodies> I have recovered from this cold, I beat it with lemons and oranges.
51:47 <Ampera> ISPs always depress me.
52:17 <Ampera> Among the insane bullshit that major ISPs in the US pull, I have one of the better ones, Verizon, but they're by no mean good.
52:34 <Ampera> They give us 940/880 FttP, no data cap, and leave us alone.
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54:07 <Ampera> wb T3sl4
54:28 <MrMobodies> I am still stuck on vdsl 50 -60 mbps per line. The water got in the enclosure and caused problems with both lines
54:29 <T3sl4> twas reboot time
55:14 <Ampera> MrMobodies, a friend was just told by Comcast that she had exceeded her data allowance, and would be charged 10 USD/50GB until the end of the month.
55:15 <MrMobodies> it was the manhole cover that was installed after the post got knocked over.
55:20 <Ampera> On a landline connection.
55:30 <MrMobodies> yes
55:50 <MrMobodies> plain old telephone or patchwork Britain
55:57 <Ampera> It's insane what ISPs do to people over here.
56:12 <MrMobodies> bandwidth capping?
56:25 <Ampera> all ISPs do bandwidth capping.
57:15 <Ampera> data capping is what ISPs do here, DHess_US could tell you all about how they try to average it out to, iirc, 784kbps down
57:45 <MrMobodies> When I moved away from Virginmedia to NTL Business, no caps, when VM took it over, they started to throttle me on their "new" 54mbps package. I found on the contact that they wouldn't do that but there is a clause that was pointed out to say they can
57:49 <Ampera> My ISP is also dragging their ass on IPv6, which slightly annoys me.
58:20 <MrMobodies> No IPV6 yet either.
00:12 <Ampera> I have a tunnel broker, which has actually been excellent, so I'm alright for now.
00:25 <MrMobodies> broker?
00:49 <Ampera> https://tunnelbroker.net/
01:10 <DHess_US> AT&T blocked IPv6 tunnels.
01:33 <DHess_US> Could still do it over UDP of course but they blocked protocol 41.
01:33 <Ampera> lol, I recall hearing that
01:46 <MrMobodies> that's look good
01:54 <Ampera> iirc, it was because they were upset that people might be getting static ranges
01:55 <DHess_US> I haven't tried tunneling protocol 41 over my VPN. It might work and it might not.
02:03 <MrMobodies> so they block something that is already there.
02:36 <DHess_US> It happened in stages. First they blocked external tunnels. Then they blocked to multicast tunnel.
02:39 <Ampera> Verizon is too apathetic to block anything besides 25 outgoing
02:56 <Ampera> so I'd have to pay someone to proxy emails for me
03:38 <Ampera> I think the US needs more ISP competition.
03:42 <MrMobodies> I don't know what sort of restrictions my ISP have in place I'd have yet to find out
03:59 <Ampera> Verizon don't care, so long as you don't break shit, you can do whatever
04:02 <DHess_US> The problem with email is that you would need a routable IP. It is not enough to have a VPN.
04:16 <Ampera> that comes with the disadvantage of they probably don't care if shit breaks, but we haven't had a problem yet.
04:32 <Ampera> DHess_US, define routable IP
04:43 <Ampera> I have a working in/out SMTP server right now, I use Amazon SMS to proxy.
04:44 <DHess_US> You can't be behind NAT.
05:01 <Ampera> I'm not on CGNAT, I have a sticky dynamic IP
05:21 <DHess_US> Most VPN services now put you behind NAT and might forward a one or a couple of random ports to you.
05:31 <Ampera> Verizon doesn't give a shit about CGNAT, they'd sooner just not give out IPv4s than actually implement CGNAT routers.
05:33 <DHess_US> 10+ years ago they just gave you an IP.
06:21 <DHess_US> A lot of VM services are used now just to get an IP to act as a routable
06:23 <Ampera> right now their networks function, their fiber is cheap, and they aren't absolute cunts about it.
06:26 <DHess_US> routable VPN endpoint.
06:31 <MrMobodies> I heard them doing that with Hyperoptic
06:37 <MrMobodies> CGNAT
06:52 <Ampera> this, however, is why IPv6 ubiquity can't come soon enough.
07:00 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/C67ciEs.png lightly fried fish fillets, anyone?
07:07 <Ampera> no doubt ISPs will find a way to cuck people with that tech, but it'll make it easier to just communicate with someone else.
07:12 <DHess_US> Amazon SMS is probably one of the better ways.
07:25 <Ampera> Aye, they're cheap, and they can also operate as a backup MX
07:30 <DHess_US> Eh, I had fish sticks tonight.
07:40 <MrMobodies> I can eat normally again
07:45 <Ampera> I have a bowl of ramen I made a tad too big.
07:47 <T3sl4> are you a gay fish?
07:49 <Ampera> q.q
07:58 <T3sl4> Ampera: a tad pole?
08:05 <Ampera> T3sl4, what's that there at the top there?
08:09 <DHess_US> It took me long enough but I mastered how to cook frozen battered fish in the oven.
08:12 <Ampera> looks like smoked salmon
08:19 <T3sl4> pickled ginger :)
08:32 <MrMobodies> Smoked salmon with cheese is what I like
08:33 <Ampera> DHess_US, how do you fuck up frozen fishsticks in the oven
08:37 <MrMobodies> and the lemons
08:53 <Ampera> I could probably eat smoked salmon every single day and never get sick of it
09:02 <Ampera> it's awesome, but stupid expensive.
09:05 <DHess_US> Ampera, by using anything except an easy to clean cast iron frying pan.
09:54 <Ampera> so you're telling me you put frozen fish sticks on a sheet pan, put it in the oven, and through some astronomical abortion of the mind, you managed to fuck something up
10:17 <DHess_US> No, I don't use a sheet pan.
10:25 <DHess_US> That is how you screw it up.
10:31 <Ampera> no that's what I'm asking
10:36 <Ampera> how the fuck do you screw it up with a sheet pan
10:44 <Ampera> but not with a cast iron skillet
10:47 <DHess_US> By using a sheet pan.
11:10 <DHess_US> Cast iron skillets are trivial to clean. No mess.
12:33 <Ampera> speaking of which, I'm taking a page out of your book and am going to put an old computer into service as a server.
12:47 <DHess_US> Put cast iron in oven and preheat, add oil, wipe pan down, add fish.
12:53 <Ampera> I bought a Power Mac G5 (DP 1.8Ghz), and intend to use it to evaluate the practicality of operating a POWER based server
13:29 <DHess_US> My Pentium4 2.4C is working fine but I don't know what to do with it.
13:49 <Ampera> sounds like you were cooking fish sticks in it earlier
14:13 <DHess_US> It currently has ... 9 PATA ports and 6 SATA ports.
14:33 <Ampera> perfect for a CD/DVD ripping monster
14:43 <DHess_US> And 5 RAID controllers.
14:55 <Ampera> PATA RAID?
15:08 <MrMobodies> I have go tan old 3WARE eight 7000 series somewhere
15:09 <DHess_US> 4 PATA interfaces.
15:17 <DHess_US> Err, 4 PATA RAID interfaces.
15:38 <Ampera> so, 4x2 RAID PATA, 1 onboard PATA, and 6 onboard SATA?
15:46 <DHess_US> Yea, it has a 4 port 7000. I have another one and two more 2 port ones I could add as well.
16:02 <DHess_US> No
16:18 <Ampera> well then that math confuses me
16:26 <Ampera> 9 PATA ports, 4 RAID controllers, presumably an onboard controller
16:40 <DHess_US> 2 PATA 2 SATA MB, 1 PATA MB, 4 PATA RAID, 2 x (PATA + 2 SATA) RAID
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17:05 <DHess_US> Just whatever I had laying around which won't run on Windows 10.
17:18 <DHess_US> Linux and FreeBSD have no problem with them.
17:54 <Ampera> I've been thinking about trying out NetBSD, I'm curious if its Linux emu is better than FreeBSD's
18:30 <Ampera> afaik it can also run FreeBSD binaries, and one or two other random UNIX distro binaries.
19:53 <DHess_US> I have a bunch of big SCSI controllers I could install into it.
20:08 <Ampera> mmm, SCSI always makes me feel fuzzy inside.
20:24 <DHess_US> I have the SCSI drives also but hardly worth installing them.
21:02 <DHess_US> They are fast but not big enough to bother with now.
21:30 <Ampera> I have a couple Ultra320 300GB drives
21:35 <Ampera> both 15k
21:59 <DHess_US> It's been so long I don't remember what these are now.
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22:12 <Ampera> which are almost big enough to be worth using, but considering I can buy 4TB Hitachi refurb SATA drives for 60 bucks
22:13 <Ampera> eh
22:27 <DHess_US> still faster than those HItachis.
22:35 <DHess_US> Where do you buy them for that?
22:41 <Ampera> goHardDrive via Newegg
22:45 <DHess_US> I've been looking at some 3TB ones
22:51 <DHess_US> Ah
23:01 <Ampera> I have 3 2TB Hitachi refurbs, and they are pretty reliable, one's got
23:03 <Ampera> shit lemme check
23:40 <DHess_US> I have a bunch of 2T and 3B hitachis.
24:00 <Ampera> older one has 40,000 hours on it.
24:16 <Ampera> though I have a suspicion that the seller wipes SMART before selling.
24:27 <MrMobodies> I remember they're the good ones from a Datacenter
24:27 <Ampera> so it might have had much more than that.
24:43 <DHess_US> 40G and 18G
25:01 <MrMobodies> I mentioned someone did that to me on Ebay and they didn't get away with it when I showed them what was on MHDD.
25:03 <Ampera> DHess_US, while the Ultra320 drives might be faster, cheap SSDs still make those points rather moot
25:11 <Ampera> iirc I can get 500GB SSDs for about as much.
25:30 <Ampera> and if NVMe is an option, Intel almost gives away their QLC SSDs.
25:30 <MrMobodies> I remembered my old Raid system over 10 years ago
25:32 <DHess_US> Oh, sure SSDs will be much faster in all respects. But these are sitting on my shelf and free.
25:38 <Ampera> true
26:05 <Ampera> but the power, time, and effort to put together 1-2 TB of storage that's slightly faster than a hard drive, on a machine that may or may not be able to benefit from that anyways...
26:12 <MrMobodies> Megaraid Eneteprise 1600, 128mb battery backup ram, 8 scsi 32gb 15000rpm drive access time 4ms 80mb burst
26:26 <DHess_US> Oh, forget that. I'm not using SSDs for bulk storage.
26:28 <MrMobodies> now an SSD can do it in 0.1ms
27:02 <DHess_US> My existing ARECA controllers can saturate the MB interface with fast disk storage and I'm happy with that.
27:03 <Ampera> if I was made of money I'd put together an NVMe NAS.
27:22 <DHess_US> I'd rather spend the same money on even more storage.
27:54 <MrMobodies> I like storage, it gives me room to play with it.
27:56 <Ampera> well this would be presuming I'd have an environment that would benefit from a fast NAS
28:44 <DHess_US> My 10+ year old workstation has an ARECA 1210 with 4 x 750G WD Black and it is plenty fast. I just need to replace it because the disks are reaching EOL.
29:54 <Ampera> I'm looking to upgrade my primary desktop somewhat soon. looking at 3950X territory.
31:18 <Ampera> good news, I finished my bowl of ramen
31:58 <DHess_US> What I would like for my workstation is this but I can't find one. They are OEM only. https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/ryzen_5/pro_3400g
32:13 <Ampera> Why would you want one of them?
33:38 <DHess_US> Lower cost. Lower power. Built in GPU for an extra display.
34:54 <DHess_US> Oh, and supports ECC.
34:58 * T3sl4 puts pickled ginger in Ampera's bowl
35:04 <DHess_US> But that is true of the non-GPU ones.
35:11 * Ampera tickles T3sl4's ginger
35:46 <T3sl4> it's already pink tho
38:16 <T3sl4> hahaha
38:34 <T3sl4> ITT: the subject of this post appears in the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/esj66b/til_that_adam_west_and_frank_gorshin_were_once/
39:05 <T3sl4> quality beetlejuicing
39:32 <MrMobodies> I brought one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254240899236?
39:45 <MrMobodies> To give me some extra ports on the Pfsense router
40:29 <MrMobodies> There are marking for other controllers on the pcb but I couldn't find any with then populated
40:38 <DHess_US> That will do it.
41:36 <DHess_US> Talk about reusing old hardware, my Pfsense router is a 1.4GHz Pentium4.
42:11 <MrMobodies> I got a couple of those and some of them make good heaters
42:38 <MrMobodies> I got a 2.8 GHz dell non HT and it seems to run over 100w or so idle.
42:53 <MrMobodies> but the performance is good
43:11 <MrMobodies> does yours use rambus?
44:06 <DHess_US> I have a dual slot 1 RAMBUS box currently with 2 x P3 500MHz.
44:09 <DHess_US> Even supports ECC
44:23 <DHess_US> Secret Intel processors.
44:51 <DHess_US> And a custom Intel BIOS to make use of them.
46:05 <MrMobodies> not a production model
46:38 <DHess_US> No, Intel prototype system for their OR840 workstation motherboard.
46:46 <DHess_US> The ACPI is wacked on it.
47:24 <DHess_US> Wait, no. 600 MHz P3 Slot 1 with 512K cache I think.
47:54 <MrMobodies> I like the capacitors
48:34 <MrMobodies> I got Dell Dual P3, but the power supply needs sorting out, I think it is one of those non standard atx ones with the 12v and 5v rail
48:40 <DHess_US> So prototype for this, https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=27545
49:01 <MrMobodies> I took the fans out of them 10 years ago, it sounded like a vacuum cleaner, it is a Dell poweredge 2400
49:02 <DHess_US> Has an unlocked multiplier though which is why the BIOS is custom.
49:37 <MrMobodies> oooh I know
49:53 <MrMobodies> it is unique because I couldn't find any seller with 512k cache past 450 - 500mhz
50:01 <DHess_US> If I bought some ECC RAMBUS memory for it then it might be worth using again.
50:54 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_III_microprocessors#%22Katmai%22_(250_nm)
50:59 <DHess_US> So the first Pentium 3 processors but the fastest of the first ones.
51:01 <MrMobodies> I have a Pentoum 3 1000mhz but it is 100*10 multiplier
51:11 <MrMobodies> 100mhz bus speed
51:26 <MrMobodies> it did cost me a lot though
51:47 <DHess_US> Oh, yea. I have a 1.2GHz Pentium 3 as my backup XP workstation.
51:54 <DHess_US> It has my legacy stuff on it.
52:05 <DHess_US> 2G of ECC RAM even.
52:16 <DHess_US> Or maybe 1G. I forget.
52:28 <MrMobodies> yeah most of them had 256k cache yours have a 512k
52:43 <MrMobodies> I think 2gb would be good
53:42 <MrMobodies> I brought 2gb sdram for the Poweredge 2400 and it counted it quickly
53:45 <MrMobodies> when it last worked
53:56 <MrMobodies> I had my audio gear in there
55:30 <MrMobodies> E-mu 1820 for the mixer, sound blaster sound card for alternative playback, Aztech 2320 for the output, Yamaha 1000 xg for my midi keyboard.
56:22 <DHess_US> Bah, 1G
56:59 <DHess_US> Well, my dual P3 slot 2 900MHz has 2G. That one ran for 20 years continuously.
57:19 <DHess_US> And has 2M of cache for each processor
57:40 <MrMobodies> that's nice
57:42 <DHess_US> I wonder how much RAMBUS will go in that dual 600 though.
57:51 <DHess_US> I just have what was left over.
59:03 <DHess_US> Says up to 2GB so that's nice
59:15 <DHess_US> Would take 4 x 512MB RAMBUD DIMMs which might not be stable.
00:07 <DHess_US> But the RAMBUS DIMMs are dirt cheap on the used market or they were last time I checked.
00:33 <DHess_US> Assuming it works ... "Design may be validated for 2GB support when 512MB RIMMs become available."
01:23 <DHess_US> I used to use it as a media box.
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24:54 <Ysjoelfir> Hi all
32:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Antarctic Neutrino Detector! https://t.co/X739s6U27t
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07:51 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
08:02 <Ysjoelfir> Hey Halcyon. How are u?
08:10 <Halcyon> Not too bad now that I'm home, yourself?
08:51 <Ysjoelfir> quite good, but I noticed yesterday that we are completely out of money...
09:03 <Halcyon> As in like cash?
09:07 <Halcyon> Coins and such?
09:41 <Ysjoelfir> as in like looking at the bank account and noticing that we reached the limit
09:57 <Ysjoelfir> actually slightly crossed the limit already
10:16 <Halcyon> What do you mean limit?
11:11 <Ysjoelfir> it seems that it is called "agreed overdraft" in english
11:30 <Halcyon> So your account balance goes into negative?
11:38 <Ysjoelfir> yes
11:46 <Halcyon> Hmm that's not ideal.
11:49 <Halcyon> Got a plan to fix it?
11:52 <Ysjoelfir> nope
11:53 <Ysjoelfir> yes
13:42 <Ysjoelfir> but it involves a week without being able to buy anything
13:58 <Ysjoelfir> neither food nor gas
14:38 <Ysjoelfir> around wednesday we get paid, then it will be slightly better until the rent needs to get paid. then its negative again.
15:01 <Ysjoelfir> I'm waiting desperately for march where I finally get regular money again...
16:41 <Halcyon> :(
16:54 <Halcyon> It's a shit situation to be in
18:07 <Ysjoelfir> it is. especially since my girlfriend has a dyscalculia so I have to manage the money. which isn't easy
18:36 <Halcyon> I find budgeting fun
19:07 <Ysjoelfir> it is, indeed. But if you are always in the negatives you slowly loose the fun in that
19:13 <Ysjoelfir> and it gets more tedious
19:24 <Halcyon> *nod*
20:52 <Ysjoelfir> you know, the gf doesn't work full time because of her psychic disorders. "only" 30h/week.
20:54 <Ysjoelfir> and I get only 60% of my regular pay because I'm writing my bachelor thesis right now at work.
21:35 <Halcyon> *nod*
21:46 <Halcyon> Maybe think about having a kid? They are a money drain too
22:21 <Ysjoelfir> jeeep... we want to have one. well, she wants, and I want kind of. I want but I know it is expensive as fuck
24:26 <Halcyon> I honestly feel for you, I was irresponsible with money when I was young. I vowed never to let that happen again.
24:54 <Halcyon> My goal is now ensuring I have at least $40k in the bank
25:26 <Ysjoelfir> I would be happy if we would stay at least positive :D
25:36 <Ysjoelfir> but yes, that was my goal once, too
25:58 <Halcyon> You'll get there mister.
26:01 * Halcyon hugs Ysjoelfir 
26:08 <Halcyon> I just wish I could help
26:15 <Ysjoelfir> :) thanks
26:36 <Ysjoelfir> Nah, we have to get there ourselves. we managed to get down there, so we have to manage to get up again
27:07 <Halcyon> That's the thing with finances. It's all fixable, it just might take a lot of work initially.
28:35 <Ysjoelfir> thats true. I had my own account there already, but when our "family account" got down I decided to move my private money over there.
28:41 <Ysjoelfir> now both are negative :X
28:43 <Ysjoelfir> brb
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38:52 <Ysjoelfir> re
40:47 <Halcyon> Welcome bac
40:48 <Halcyon> k
41:00 * Halcyon hugs Ampera
45:57 <Ysjoelfir> thanks :)
46:34 * Halcyon offers Ysjoelfir a glass of red wine
47:13 <Ysjoelfir> oh, speaking of wine: you told me about australian wine. I looked in our local supermarkets and found exactly ONE brand/bottle from australia.
47:18 <Ysjoelfir> that was on new years
47:22 <Halcyon> Let me guess... Penfolds?
47:42 <Ysjoelfir> I was at my mothers house, wanted to try it.,.. and forget it in the fridge, where it sits until today.
47:50 <Ysjoelfir> erm... wait. I ask
48:59 * Ysjoelfir sips on the glass of wine while waiting for his mother to respond
50:12 <Ysjoelfir> actually I was sipping on my coffee with soy milk (because I can't afford my own milk I had to borrow some from a friend who drinks that nasty stuff)
50:51 <Halcyon> Yuck
50:55 <Halcyon> I hate soy
52:42 <Ysjoelfir> I hate it, too. :S
53:03 <Ysjoelfir> I thought it would be better than nothing. but it wasn't. nothing would have been better.
53:14 <Halcyon> :(
53:19 <Halcyon> Could have had it black
53:19 <Halcyon> ?
53:59 <Ysjoelfir> nah. not that stuff they call "coffee" here. its the extra cheap stuff from lidl for 1.99€/2kg
54:33 <Ysjoelfir> and my mother reported back - the wine is gone Oo she can't find it.
54:45 <Halcyon> Oh no
54:46 <Halcyon> :(
55:53 <Ysjoelfir> maybe I did indeed take it back home.
56:00 * Ysjoelfir writes memo: must look for wine
05:33 <Halcyon> Hahah I love Flat Earther videos
05:35 <Halcyon> So entertaining
06:03 <Ysjoelfir> I usually tend to get angry because of the amount of stupidity
06:12 <Halcyon> Oh I mean SciManDan
06:13 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58jbOddZHUI
06:25 * Ysjoelfir nibbles on a NOT rotten tomato.
06:39 <Ysjoelfir> oh, i don't know that person. Lets look
06:45 <Ysjoelfir> or better, listen while working
06:48 <Halcyon> Oh I think you'll like him
07:44 <Ysjoelfir> "From the looks of it... he has diagrams and everything" - shows a scribbled note. nice. yeah, i already like him :D
08:39 <Halcyon> This isn't one of his best videos, just the latest
08:43 <coppice_> There's something funnier than flat earthers. Its the ones who completely rewrote the section of the bible with the wacky flat earth based description of the world's hydrology, so it fits reality, and now say the bible agrees with nature
08:44 <Halcyon> He does so many better ones
11:12 * Ysjoelfir is disgusted by that soy stuff in his cup
11:21 <Halcyon> Stop fucking drinking it :P
12:26 <Ysjoelfir> I did. :X
12:33 <Halcyon> Did you see my PM?
13:33 <Ysjoelfir> yes. I responded, but I guess my login didn't work if you didn't receive it :X
13:53 <Halcyon> Nope
14:08 <Ysjoelfir> hrmpf.
14:14 <Halcyon> Check your status window
14:18 <Halcyon> Server messages go in there
14:35 <Halcyon> Actually nevermind
14:46 <Halcyon> I just disabled the registered user protection
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27:52 <Ysjoelfir> Jep, I like that guy. :) thanks for sharing^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUQaQA1TFqI
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33:43 <coppice_> suerly the flat earth's biggest weakness is visiting the coast, and looking at the curved horizon :)
34:16 <Halcyon> coppice_: Shhhhh!!
34:20 <Halcyon> They like to deny that :P
34:25 <Halcyon> The curve doesn't exist
34:44 <Cherti> Hi everyone :)
35:16 <Halcyon> Hey Cherti
36:32 <Ysjoelfir> I remember doing some photos where you clearly could see the curve. but that must have been just the barrel distortion, right?
37:28 <Halcyon> I guess the same applies to eyeballs?
39:34 <Cherti> eyeballs? you mean eye disks surely :D
41:38 <Halcyon> Hah
41:44 <Halcyon> Good call
42:14 <Cherti> Hang on, is it maybe just that they learned the wrong names for 3D objects? hahah :D
44:31 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to go get dinner started, I've had chicken marinading for a while :)
44:59 <Ysjoelfir> sounds great, have fun :)
45:08 <Cherti> ooh that sounds delicious :)
46:17 <Halcyon> www.taste.com.au/recipes/korean-style-bbq-chicken-recipe/zu1upxme
46:52 <Ysjoelfir> hey, I already did that :D it's great, you will enjoy it
47:17 <Halcyon> You did?
47:42 <Ysjoelfir> yes. quite some time ago and I got the recipe from another source, but it was basically the same
47:52 <Halcyon> Quite a basic flavour combo
48:01 <Halcyon> I just felt like something light this evening
48:10 <Halcyon> Anyway, my wine glass is empty, back soon
49:20 <hsn993> so im experimenting to validate my thermal knowledge. when i measure i measure the package from top of the case ..
49:42 <Ysjoelfir> it is, yes. fresh, quick to make.... I enjoyed it very much. but I used other noodles as I don't like those rice noodles that much
49:51 <Ysjoelfir> Hi hsn :)
49:56 <hsn993> noodles again :D
49:58 <hsn993> hi
50:12 <Ysjoelfir> you can also evaluate the thermal qualities of noodles!
50:16 <hsn993> i told my boss i have enough food no need to order ... and then turned out i dont have
50:49 <Ysjoelfir> lol. I still have 2 kiwis. But I guess until they arrive at your place they will be gone bad
50:55 <hsn993> https://snipboard.io/HDvaxd.jpg << can i know Tj by just knowing that temperature of top of the case?
51:00 <hsn993> and power dissipation ?
51:47 <coppice_> no
52:06 <hsn993> they will be https://moonshiners.club/homemade-kiwifruit-wine/
53:44 <hsn993> so i wasted my time: https://snipboard.io/9Nxef1.jpg ? :D
53:59 <coppice_> oh, in that instance you can. They actually specify the junction to case top thermal resistance, which you don't get for most devices
56:29 <hsn993> so in this case i've 1.4W dissipation of that regulator . it means that i've Tj = (43°+ Rtopcase*Pd) = 103°C
39:16 <Ysjoelfir> lunch break
39:20 <Ysjoelfir> time for a healthy snack
40:06 <hsn993> enojoy
43:37 <Ysjoelfir> Well. I kind of do. I love noodles, but this instant thing is... ok if anything. I should have gone with the erbswurst again.
00:48 <Halcyon> Back
00:51 <Halcyon> That was delicious
02:43 <Ysjoelfir> I thought so :)
03:13 <Halcyon> I cooked the chicken in a wok (on really high heat) to emulate a hot BBQ
03:21 <Halcyon> I have a BBQ but it's a bit shit, I need a new one
03:36 <Halcyon> I got that slightly charred edge
05:07 <Ysjoelfir> sounds great :D I actually have a great BBQ. Should use that a bit more often
08:53 * steve30 meows at Halcyon 
09:45 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
10:17 <Ysjoelfir> Aaah yes, don't we all love those russians? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NP-1ZhI6dI
11:25 <Halcyon> Ah yes I've seen this channel
11:27 <Halcyon> Absolutely nuts
12:04 <Ysjoelfir> yes. but somehow also genious
14:24 <Halcyon> These guys scare me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9-mON6RxDU
15:24 <Halcyon> Although the long hair guy is cute
19:45 <Ysjoelfir> why do they scare you?^^
20:19 <Halcyon> It's so.... soviet
20:31 <Ysjoelfir> yikes, soviets!
21:01 <Halcyon> Have you seen The IT Crowd Ysjoelfir ?
21:06 <Ysjoelfir> yes
21:10 <Halcyon> Heh :)
21:16 <Halcyon> Such a good series
21:57 <Ysjoelfir> it is. one of the few where I agree in regards of something TV related is good. most of the time I just don't watch TV at all.^^
22:17 <Halcyon> I'm guessing "condenser" is a capacitor?
24:03 <Ysjoelfir> yes, a pretty old word for it
24:06 <coppice_> yeah, yeah, its a capacitor. we are NOT making moonshine
24:14 <Halcyon> :P
24:29 <Ysjoelfir> :P
24:46 <Halcyon> Yeh that guy with the long hair is my type
24:51 <Halcyon> (Minus the long hair)
25:10 <Ysjoelfir> xD
25:44 <Halcyon> *smirk*
25:52 <Halcyon> Sorry, I'll be less homo
26:21 <steve30> Halcyon, there was a bit of a shortage of hotties at the pool yesterday :/
26:26 <Ysjoelfir> Ah, don't change yourself.
26:44 <Halcyon> Poor Steve
26:49 <Halcyon> You were the only hottie?
27:02 <steve30> yup
37:34 <Halcyon> Hmm, looks like the rain was short lived: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR713.loop.shtml#skip
38:26 <Ysjoelfir> meh
38:59 <Halcyon> http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/forecasts/sydney.shtml
39:07 <Halcyon> At least it's not going to be 40 degrees like it was today
39:43 <Ysjoelfir> I could try to send you some of the -3 over
39:54 <Halcyon> I have the air conditioning on as we speak
40:02 <Halcyon> It's a nice 22 degrees in here
40:14 <Halcyon> I'm wearing board shorts and a t-shirt
42:24 <Ysjoelfir> I'm wearing... well, a short sleeve shirt and rather airy jeans. I like the cold
42:38 <Halcyon> Me too, I'll turn the air down to 18 when I sleep
42:56 <Halcyon> Nice and chilled
44:20 <Halcyon> I used to sleep with it set to 15, but a 3-phase A/C unit costs a bit to run :P
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54:23 <hsn993> why regulators dont have sinking feature, isnt it pretty common that people want to shunt signals to the rail ?
54:47 * Halcyon shunts T3sl4 
54:52 <hsn993> :D
55:07 <Halcyon> He loves it when I'm rough with him
55:13 <hsn993> lol
55:27 <hsn993> dont make me laugh my boss is in front of me
55:55 <Halcyon> So?
56:05 <Halcyon> Tell him you're on IRC talking to a bunch of fucking nerds
56:30 <hsn993> he doesnt know what is IRC
56:36 <Halcyon> Educate him
56:43 <hsn993> hard for me
56:47 <Halcyon> Why?
57:02 <rust_collector> make him feel like he should know
57:15 <Halcyon> He is not a true nerd if he doesn't know
57:17 <hsn993> because he doesnt seems to be intrested
57:24 <Halcyon> Hence why he is probably a supervisor
57:31 <hsn993> :D
57:38 <Halcyon> You don't need a brain to be a manager
57:53 <hsn993> u need to know how to talk basically
57:58 <hsn993> and convince top management
58:12 <Halcyon> So you need to know how to bullshit?
58:14 <Halcyon> :P
58:16 <Halcyon> I know how it works
58:21 <rust_collector> you need to know powerpoint
58:28 <Halcyon> I work with Inspectors and Superintendents ;-)
58:30 <hsn993> yeaah.. unfortunately thats totally not me
58:51 <hsn993> rust_collector i know powerpoint better than alot of managers :D
59:02 <hsn993> but i dont present :D
59:07 <rust_collector> oh, hi mr manager
59:11 <Halcyon> :P
59:17 <hsn993> im mr slave
59:23 <Halcyon> Kinky
59:33 <rust_collector> good times
59:54 <hsn993> kinky : https://snipboard.io/kHSfV9.jpg
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