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00:11 <MrMobodies> tired/drunk looking people who are all over
00:38 <MrMobodies> being dazzled by super bright LEDS, on the road at night.
00:50 <Ysjoelfir> I paid fucking 1600€ and had to repeat the practical exam once because that dickhead driving instructor was like "ooooh, there was a pedestrian crossing way. didn't you see the elderly couple in 200m? what if they would have started to run now? you didn't pass the test."
01:16 <rust_collector> my grandpa had to borrow his brothers truck, to get to the local police station, go inside, explain that he wanted one of those new license things, police guy asked if he could drive.... oh, yes I see your truck there, sign, stamp here you go
01:31 <MrMobodies> 1600 euros... sounds a lot.
01:41 <MrMobodies> elderly people running...
01:47 <Ysjoelfir> thats cheap if you compare nowadays fees
02:02 <Ysjoelfir> my girlfriend is doing it right now. she paid 450€ only for the paperwork
02:21 <MrMobodies> can you drive... yes, please sign that you can drive... simple
02:54 <Ysjoelfir> then 35€ for every theoretical leseon (there are 12), 65€ for every driving lesson (at least 10) and 120 for every "special" driving lesson (like in the night, highways,... there are 6 of those)
02:56 <rust_collector> that was in 194x. you did not need to have a license, but you could
02:56 <MrMobodies> and it was the police..nice
03:30 * Ysjoelfir feels the urge to move to the toilet rather quickly
03:31 <Ysjoelfir> brb
04:05 <rust_collector> I don't even know what >I paid in the end, with the hgv stuff and all that
04:06 <MrMobodies> going to make some Lapsumg tea, the smokey stuff from China.
04:22 <rust_collector> smokey tea
11:12 <Ysjoelfir> re
11:21 <rust_collector> pq
11:45 <rust_collector> is the toilet ok?
12:45 <Ysjoelfir> I guess. But my rectum isn't.
13:02 <T3sl4> oh my
13:02 <rust_collector> mmm, must be a thing these days
13:18 <K> smokey the rectum?
13:44 <Ysjoelfir> xD that was predictable. as soon as someone talks about feces or ass they all come out of their holes
13:54 <Ysjoelfir> do you have a notification for such words or what? :P
14:16 <rust_collector> ssssh! the bot will hear you
14:25 <Ysjoelfir> ah damn! :X
16:37 <K> that is a trade secret, Ysjoelfir.
17:03 <rust_collector> export restrictions and stuff
19:33 <Ysjoelfir> ah, I understand.
20:21 <rust_collector> steam bicycle. that sounds... like a small train
21:17 <rust_collector> ok, I was wrong, it sounds like a damn lawn mower
21:57 <Ysjoelfir> at least it doesn't sound like one of those stupid leaf blowers
22:21 <rust_collector> hmm, you mean a jet powered bicycle?
22:23 <rust_collector> hmmm
22:29 <rust_collector> hm hm hmmmmmmm
22:50 <K> like that colin furze stuff?
23:06 <rust_collector> no, not a pulse jet
23:15 <Ysjoelfir> more like a blow jet?
24:02 <rust_collector> I think I saw mr furz getting a turbo, but I am not sure if I saw him use it for anything
24:03 <K> hm, aren't those pulse jets he makes/uses?
24:13 <rust_collector> yes, it is
24:26 <K> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXWspo5hrc
24:36 <rust_collector> the trombome looking things
26:40 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvS8wtnNQz4
38:47 <MrMobodies> I like the one with the stairs
39:43 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya1iDTix8Js
40:05 <MrMobodies> I found that comedy when he ran up for the biscuits
47:34 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, did you talk some more with the guy from yesterday who was very... like... searching for answers to all possible questions?
48:11 <rust_collector> the guy I made ampera ban?
48:21 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know?
48:27 <rust_collector> joepubic
48:27 <T3sl4> haven't heard another word ;)
48:45 <Ysjoelfir> no, joepublic wasnt the one. don't remember the name^^
48:50 <rust_collector> ok
49:05 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok. so we were passive enough to his 12476219745619286451927631 questions that he didn't bother anymore?
49:44 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, I like to help people... But that was.. a bit much.
50:15 <rust_collector> dockster
51:14 <Ysjoelfir> possible
51:49 <rust_collector> so? what about sportsweatherreligion then?
52:06 <rust_collector> I think
52:07 <rust_collector> maybe
53:10 <Ysjoelfir> The good old Sportweatherreligion. Thats my favourite topic! close to politics.
53:29 <rust_collector> polytics is ok too
53:55 * Ysjoelfir stuffs some foam into his ears...
53:58 <Ysjoelfir> The cleaning ladies arrived... with their vacuums... yay
54:22 <rust_collector> oh, a... not flood warning, but a high water level warning
54:27 <rust_collector> uhm, ok
55:26 <Ysjoelfir> I already have a wonderful headache from working with an 5kVA AC source the whole morning... that thing is teribly loud. had to hide in the workshop to not geting shot by the co workers when tutning that thing on.
00:06 <rust_collector> so, what are you doing with that?
00:47 <Ysjoelfir> I wanted to see if it has a negative output impedance
01:06 <rust_collector> designing a faster hand dryer for public restrooms, I get it
01:55 <rust_collector> well, did it?
02:29 <Ysjoelfir> I'm designing a reference impedance for flicker measurements that uses an AC source as... well, as the AC source. and regarding to the standards you have to take into account the impedance of the source, too.
02:30 <Ysjoelfir> calibrating the reference impedance is easier if the AC source can only have positive output impedances. and yes, it had. I couldn't get the source to behave like a negative impedance. which is good for me.
02:48 <Ysjoelfir> But the hand dryer thing would be applicable, too. at least if loudnes is the limiting factor.
04:30 <rust_collector> flicker, as in light?
05:11 <Ysjoelfir> that is what it comes down to. but in the standard it is described in the term of voltage fluctuations.
05:52 <rust_collector> mmkay
06:27 <Ysjoelfir> basically, if you design a device acording to that standard you want to make sure that the lights don't flicker if your device does what it does
06:42 <Ysjoelfir> like when a fridge starts the compressor, you don't want the bulb in the kitchen to go dim
07:06 <rust_collector> ok
10:46 <hsn93> i thought i saw that in one of dave's videos .. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/ucurrent-gold-trace-to-shunt-resistors-has-no-soldermask/
14:31 Quit: Stiff ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
14:31 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) EOF from client
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15:59 * Ysjoelfir throws a 5kVA AC source at Halcyon
16:37 * T3sl4 clips a VFD to Ysjoelfir and spins it up
16:46 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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18:38 <rust_collector> nyan cat 3000 hours autoplay no off button
20:06 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer trololo song
20:09 <Ysjoelfir> or loituma
33:00 <T3sl4> cheers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCO62VNm67k
43:57 <rust_collector> Ok, I have to fix my brain thing now
44:04 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX8CqfpGwzw
57:19 <T3sl4> nice, soothing melody :)
57:37 <rust_collector> it is, if you play it loud enough
59:38 <T3sl4> it's an interesting strategy, to bury the melody in so much noise that you actually have to turn it up to hear it
00:17 <T3sl4> suspect my speakers don't have quite enough frequency range (just some bookshelf ones)
00:18 <rust_collector> yep. it just does not work until you crank it up
00:52 <Ysjoelfir> meeeeh.... the cleaning people are back, this time with that... floor polishing thing. you know, those that go like WOBWOBWOBWOB
01:10 <Ysjoelfir> I guess I'm leaving now before I go cpmpletely nuts because of the headache x.x
01:21 <rust_collector> techno!
01:30 <rust_collector> wobwobwobwob
01:32 <Ysjoelfir> i love techno, but not that one
01:57 <Ysjoelfir> anyways, I'm off for now.
02:03 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Farvel og har en hyggelige tid :)
03:26 <T3sl4> also suspect the noise level doesn't compress well; YT's audio is generally alright but this is probably pushing it
05:28 <rust_collector> I can not really listen to music now, as I have half of a nokia handsfree set
05:54 <rust_collector> they...it works much better than I thought it would, lol
06:00 <hsn93> ultra librarian seems to give a lot of wrong 3d models ?
06:35 <hsn93> or footprint .. im not sure which one now
06:53 <hsn93> but there pcb footprint doesnt fit their 3d models ?
07:44 <rust_collector> Did I write that ultra librarian thing?
08:02 <rust_collector> it sort of sounds like I did
10:24 <hsn93> totally my mistake this time :D
10:30 <hsn93> i imported wrong one
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05:30 <rust_collector> well hello mr I am at home
15:42 <Ysjoelfir> You mean mr. Im at home but the girlfriend wants to go shopping so being away again x.x
16:04 <rust_collector> aah, yes, I am very sorry
16:24 <Ysjoelfir> I would appreciate that
16:33 <Ysjoelfir> I am suffering big time
16:47 <Ysjoelfir> just got a parking spot right in front of the flat :_:
16:58 <rust_collector> going out for indian food... what a horrible time
17:14 <rust_collector> ok, so you are walking?
17:34 <Ysjoelfir> your ass is on fire after your mouth was on fire before?
17:37 <rust_collector> you can not give up that spot
17:39 <Ysjoelfir> i would like to, yes
17:50 <Ysjoelfir> but she wouldnÄt be to happy i guess :D
18:52 <rust_collector> äæäæäæäæ tell her it is the green thing
19:04 <Ysjoelfir> that could work. let me try
19:45 <Ysjoelfir> nope, didn't work
20:18 <rust_collector> do you have a cargo bike?
22:04 <Ysjoelfir> I have built a trailer for my bike, when I'm shopping alone I tend to use that. but she doesn't like cycling. So I guess I have to move now xD
22:53 <rust_collector> ok. well, you don't have to go shopping that often now
24:03 <K> put her in the trailer
24:09 <K> and bike
24:26 <rust_collector> wife has a cheap electric bike. she says it works well. I am not going to try it.
25:14 <hsn93> http://80.229.80.165/tech_info/
25:14 <rust_collector> but I could use something like an electric bike with some kind of load....area
26:18 <K> what is that, hsn93 ?
26:42 <hsn93> i've no idea just found good stuff in this server..
26:54 <rust_collector> it is a trap, the robots wants you to follow the map
26:56 <hsn93> there is no website in that server
27:10 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
27:19 <hsn93> KSB Server
27:19 <hsn93> Company number 4040107
27:20 <hsn93> VAT reg. no. 754 3305 42
27:20 <hsn93> Combination Lock Number 9101 - then press button
27:20 <hsn93> Tel. 024 7666 1996
28:12 <hsn93> guides, standards, i didnt go through everything
28:52 <rust_collector> hurco, eh?
29:23 <rust_collector> scottish power cables, lol
34:59 <rust_collector> I am not sure how I ended up here: http://www.mss.vatlib.it/guii/scan/link1.jsp?fond=Vat.lat.
36:48 <rust_collector> I made food
36:54 <rust_collector> I have supperpowers
39:35 <hsn93> yum
41:08 <hsn93> i've 99+ tabs opened
41:21 <hsn93> chrome in phone shows (:D) after u reach 100
41:45 <rust_collector> I am testing waterfox now, and it is sloooow
42:35 <hsn93> its not fire
42:50 <rust_collector> right
44:09 <hsn93> i've to leave
44:12 <hsn93> see u
44:32 <rust_collector> have enjoys mr sir
44:41 <hsn93> u2
03:49 <T3sl4> rust_collector: supperpowers, eh? if you won't eat a certain food, does that make it your kelptonite?
05:02 <rust_collector> very close.
05:27 <rust_collector> I do think I could try to eat kelp. at least if it was dried
11:09 <rust_collector> maybe mixed in with a lot of chocolate, for the best effect
17:46 <Ampera> rust_collector, multiple bot timezone is on the planning list, but timezones are a right pain in the ass.
18:12 <Ampera> I could be lazy and just have people configure a +UTC offset, but that makes it a pain in the ass on people using it instead.
18:21 <rust_collector> yeah, I agree, we should just agree on one timezone
18:25 <Ampera> As for Ed who was joinspamming, he's banned for 48 hours
18:38 <Ampera> Well we did, Sydney's time
19:20 <rust_collector> Ok, I have to adjust the clock at work slightly
19:52 <rust_collector> so, are you back home?
21:14 <Ampera> rust_collector, no I will be in about 32 hours or so.
21:21 <Ampera> tomorrow at around 8-9
21:23 <rust_collector> oh
21:24 <Ampera> EST
21:52 <rust_collector> hmm. which is..... what in new standard time?
22:26 <rust_collector> I thought we agreed on dave time
22:37 <Ampera> eevblog time
22:38 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 04:22 Sydney time.
22:54 <Ampera> my time is 12:22, and Syndey is +14 from me
23:11 <rust_collector> yeah, we should just use one time
23:25 <Ampera> so 21 + 14 = 15
23:30 <Ampera> er, no
23:39 <Ampera> 11.
23:48 <rust_collector> this is like being back in school, and I had a tendency to go do something else
24:08 <Ampera> and I disagree, while I understand the use of a unified time, my mind and schedule is oriented around local time's numbers.
24:20 <Ampera> I'm used to it, I'm used to time zones, just deal with it
24:42 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
24:48 * Ampera chugs T3sl4
24:49 <rust_collector> I want change, just for the change
25:10 * T3sl4 differentiates rust_collector
25:10 <Ampera> rust_collector, that's the kinda progressive attitude that resulted in Nazi Germany and the global scourge of communism.
25:32 <rust_collector> It will probably be really expensive, and annoy a lot of people for some time, which is good
26:00 <Ampera> kinda like communism
26:03 <Ampera> and facism for that matter
27:12 <rust_collector> that is ok, I can be your hitler. just fix the time
28:05 <rust_collector> just set it to your time, My internal clock is borked anyway, so I don't care
38:44 Quit: hsn93 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
40:32 <rust_collector> I want to live somewhere with an abandoned railway line, so I can build my own little train, and trundle along the line
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52:09 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, would you come on a short 3-4 day vacation, to where hsn93 is?
53:07 <rust_collector> just for food and to look around
56:08 <Ampera> I don't know what Bahrain is like, actually.
56:28 <Ampera> I know it's a bit of a generalization, but so long as the laws are decent enough, I wouldn't mind going
56:37 <Ampera> That holds true for most places.
57:34 <rust_collector> I don't know too much about that place either.
58:00 <T3sl4> knowing the local language a bit would help
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58:27 <T3sl4> guessing they don't speak much english there (tho if they do, that's certainly helpful)
59:16 <rust_collector> I think they do, at least a bit, but I don't know
02:54 <Ampera> T3sl4, apparently English is a recognized language, but the main language is Arabic.
12:36 <T3sl4> not bad
14:26 <DHess_US> I think I'm giving up on the various NAS distributions. I am going to install Gentoo on this box and setup a NAS manually, or create Skynet and destroy human civilization, whichever is easier.
26:01 <rust_collector> why gentoo?
26:40 <DHess_US> I like the idea of being able to compile from source, and the system is a Pentium4.
27:06 <rust_collector> hmm, ok then
27:07 <Ampera> FreeBSD is a venerable option for NAS usage.
27:08 <DHess_US> Too many other distributions have dropped x86.
27:22 <DHess_US> Yea, I might still go with FreeBSD.
27:24 <Ampera> and gives you easy to compile everything from source with good makefiles
27:32 <Ampera> plus, ZFS
27:44 <DHess_US> ZFS works on Gentoo also.
27:46 <Ampera> though that might be a bit much for that poor Pentium 4
27:53 <DHess_US> No, should work fine.
27:55 <Ampera> It does, but you have to use a custom kernel.
28:19 <DHess_US> Pentium4 with 2G of ECC RAM. It's my old workstation.
28:26 <DHess_US> And CSA networking
29:01 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Communication_Streaming_Architecture
29:06 <DHess_US> So not your average Pentium4.
31:15 <rust_collector> well, good night
31:23 * T3sl4 pops corn on Ampera's kernel
31:26 <Ampera> 2GB is not much, is my point
31:40 <Ampera> ZFS likes to be memory hungry.
36:03 <DHess_US> Only if you use deduplication. ZFS has a reputation for needing memory because of memory cache growth.
36:35 <DHess_US> But you can limit it to values much lower than 2G in which case it runs like every other file system with lower amounts of read cache.
37:42 <DHess_US> And no matter what the performance hit is, it can't be slower than fucking Windows 10 Storage Pools on modern hardware.
38:28 <Ampera> I suppose so.
38:55 <DHess_US> Even Linus in a recent video was amazed at how slow Windows 10 is.
39:37 <DHess_US> The developers over at Microsoft are smoking crack if they think they are competitive.
44:04 <DHess_US> I need to test the hard drives so got it running DBAN in verify mode.
44:53 <DHess_US> which is more effective than wiping with zeros or doing a surface scan
52:33 <Ampera> DHess_US, it dismays me how impossible Windows 10 is to use on a hard drive
52:41 <Ampera> and honestly I have no clue why, it doesn't do anything special.
52:59 <Ampera> I can't even get a Linux box to junk that slow.
53:50 <DHess_US> It isn't even that but Microsoft does not know what features are supported.
54:14 <DHess_US> Reading through the customer support for Storage Pools shows that it is just broken.
54:50 <DHess_US> I suspect they outsourced too much development to India and such.
55:41 <DHess_US> Cause management is saying "yes, completely supported", customer support is saying, "that should work", and the developers are saying, "we never implemented that."
57:18 <Ampera> DHess_US, reminds me of Verizon, whose FiOS PR and support are hot garbage.
58:40 <DHess_US> AT&T U-Verse isn't any better.
02:40 <Ampera> DHess_US, I've heard it's worse.
03:04 <Ampera> and do absolutely retarded things like lock router/modems to their own supplied units
04:31 <DHess_US> I had IPv6 working great on U-Verse for many years. Then AT&T blocked third party tunnels so I switched to the multicast tunnel. Then AT&T blocked that so I switched to the manual tunnel. Then AT&T blocked that and said if I wanted IPv6, I had to pay extra.
04:33 <DHess_US> Fuck AT&T.
05:20 <Ampera> lolwhat
05:37 <Ampera> okay, in terms of IPv6, I suppose you can be worse than Verizon
05:55 <DHess_US> They gave multiple reasons for blocking IPv6. We had to for law enforcement (I believe this one). We blocked it because otherwise customers could get a static IP without paying. IPv6 tunnels are obsolete.
06:37 <Ampera> lol, to get a static IP without paying
06:38 <DHess_US> I suspect they blocked it to meet CALEA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
06:56 <Ampera> nonstatic prefixes exist.
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11:56 <Ampera> anyways, I'm happy with my /48, the speed is good, and I have IPv6 now.
21:17 <Ysjoelfir> re.. and finally more or less done cooking :X
37:00 <Halcyon> Morning Ampera
37:14 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
37:16 <Ampera> how do
37:26 <Halcyon> Tired, you?
37:37 <Ampera> Getting ready to go tomorrow
37:55 <Halcyon> YAY
39:09 <Halcyon> Ampera, someone came up with a suggestion earlier about the eevblog time box
39:10 <Halcyon> bot
39:16 <Ampera> yes I saw and replied to it
39:33 <Ampera> It's in the plans, but timezones are a right pain in the ass to program for
40:08 <Halcyon> I'd imagine initially it would just need to be a small "database" of the common users
40:30 <Halcyon> You, me (same as Dave), Steve, T3sl4 etc...
41:22 <Ampera> Well the thing is I could program it so that people could enter in their own timezones in +UTC offsets
41:25 <Ampera> but that's not user friendly
41:45 <Ampera> I suppose I could simply do the common zoneinfos that Linux/BSD operate on.
41:46 <Ysjoelfir> we don't care about user friendliness here
41:57 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, explain all the hugging then.
42:11 <Halcyon> Yes and Ampera constantly trying to come onto me
42:17 <Ysjoelfir> XD
42:20 <Halcyon> And T3sl4 being a prick tease
42:29 * T3sl4 slaps Halcyon with his cock
42:31 <Ampera> Halcyon, I believe oyu mean "into" not "onto"
42:33 <Halcyon> See
42:45 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/pkVB9Ly.jpg
43:30 <Halcyon> Oooh no added MSG :)
43:31 <Halcyon> Nice
44:06 <Ysjoelfir> But MSG tasts sooo nice. Ask the asians!
44:26 <Halcyon> I'm sure it does, but it makes my nose itchy
44:33 <Halcyon> (In larger amounts)
44:35 <Ampera> bullshit
44:57 <Halcyon> No bullshit, if I eat a moderate dose of MSG, my nose pisses me off
45:05 <Halcyon> Small amounts don't have an effect
46:00 <Halcyon> Anyway I need to poop and go to work. Later guys.
46:05 * Halcyon licks Ysjoelfir on the way out
46:20 <Ysjoelfir> have fun :)
46:28 * Ysjoelfir rubs himself dry
46:34 <T3sl4> mmm, dry rub
46:56 <Ysjoelfir> yeah. I especially love "Butt glitter rub"
46:56 * T3sl4 gives Ampera's meat a dry rub
47:26 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/b0CwuS1.mp4
47:49 <coppice_> east asia kinda separates into places where they put huge amounts of MSG in everything, where every noodle bowl is left with the soup still in it, and places which use MSG sparingly, where noodle bowls are left empty
50:52 <T3sl4> you'd think they'd want to save costs by using less
51:13 <T3sl4> i wonder how the cost of MSG compares to the cost of the noodles themselves
51:26 <coppice_> well, the MSG that permeates the noodles does make them more tasty
51:27 <T3sl4> is it cheaper to feed people with MSG than actual food?
51:57 <Ampera> MSG is not expensive, it's similar to salt iirc.
52:48 <coppice_> Since Ajinomoto cracked making MSG at a very low cost its everywhere
52:52 <T3sl4> certainly less nutritious, though if they used glutamic acid rather than the sodium salt, it might not be quite as toxic
53:54 <Ampera> MSG isn't really toxic to begin with.
54:02 <T3sl4> i mean the sodium is
54:12 <Ampera> well we salt out foods too
54:18 <Ampera> *our
54:25 <T3sl4> NaCl is toxic to the tune of about >100g being a fatal dose
54:35 <Ampera> that's a lot of salt though
54:49 <coppice_> if you put the amount of sodium on your food that MSG adds, you'd consider it brine and refuse to eat iy
54:58 <T3sl4> if you can imagine choking down a half pound of salt at once, or a pound of MSG at once, you'll be in about the same place
55:20 <Ampera> again, that's way more than anyone would ever use, so I wouldn't be worrying about the toxicity.
55:24 <coppice_> the whole point of MSG is to make massive amounts of salt palatable
55:34 <coppice_> amounts of sodium
55:40 <T3sl4> hm, i wonder how much nutrition you can obtain from a given amino acid, i.e. since you still need to eat other required things including carbs (actually, maybe not carbs, huh?), fats and other amino acids
57:22 <Ampera> well glutamic acid is produced in the body
57:34 <Ampera> it's a non-essential amino acid, iirc
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09:55 <rust_collector> time for some noodles
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21:27 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Chris Dunn: .@YouTube continues their downhill spiral - punishing creators who work hard to provide REAL value while simultaneously being complacent with people pushing outright scams. https://t.co/m6S4UaBhUN
22:09 <steve30> dave is twittering a bit today
44:46 <Ampera> indeed
44:56 <Ampera> well in about 24 hours I'll be home
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24:22 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: OMFG LLB chocolate! https://t.co/l1UwwCBV7k
54:22 <DHess_US> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/lost-iran-protests-rage-day-200113142114027.html
58:36 <T3sl4> if we can get our administration changed quickly, and they theirs, the world will be just a slight bit nicer
04:38 <T3sl4> also, this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/eo891n/iran_anchor_resigns_after_lying_for_regime_for_13/fea2zi0/
28:18 * Ampera overthrows T3sl4
28:34 * T3sl4 enslaves Ampera
28:37 <Ampera> I think our regime is fine, I'm one of the few people who thinks that really.
28:56 <Ampera> I don't think it's great, I don't think it's bad, I think the US government works best when it's a little bit on fire,
29:12 <Ampera> that means they're too busy worrying about their own petty squabbled to do any real damage.
33:20 <T3sl4> you must not know very much about it to realize the fire is spreading
34:18 <Ampera> People have been shouting fire fire, it'll destroy the nation, for the past uh
34:21 <Ampera> late 1700's
35:17 <T3sl4> and sometimes it did
35:20 <T3sl4> 1812 for example
35:24 <Ampera> I only get worried when the government starts doing a lot of shit unopposed. Kinda like a skyscraper where the mass dampener disappears
35:29 <Ampera> lol
45:56 <T3sl4> Halcyon, https://imgur.com/WQkAgiR
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49:37 <Ysjoelfir> Heihei
51:36 <Ampera> Hi Ysjoelfir
51:39 <Ampera> how are you doing
52:14 <Ysjoelfir> Better than gestern. Headache is gone. But the boss already told me that my measurements were shit and I have to do them again using that insanely loud AC source...
52:52 <Ampera> rip
55:02 <Ysjoelfir> thanks. I will after work is done. :P
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21:14 <hsn93> Ysjoelfir u do (emc measurments)?
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23:38 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Farvel og har en hyggelige tid :)
31:39 <Halcyon> Hey hsn93
31:58 <hsn93> hey halycon
32:05 <hsn93> whatsup
33:00 <Halcyon> Not too much, just cooking dinner, yourself?
33:24 <hsn93> great..
33:49 <hsn93> cooking and swatting at ampera u mean
33:53 <hsn93> :D
33:58 <Halcyon> Hehe yes but he isn't responding
34:08 <Halcyon> Also listening to Rick Astley
34:54 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHMjD0Lp5DY
35:52 <hsn93> my boss discussing with colleege he is load i cant even listen my voice talking to my self
36:00 <hsn93> :D
36:14 <Halcyon> Heh
37:42 <Halcyon> I have a good voice, I just hate listening to it recorded
40:01 <hsn93> everytime i chat here they think im writing some software.. i can see they are happy with every keyboard hit i do .. :D
40:10 <Halcyon> Hahah
40:20 <Halcyon> Yes typing must mean you are working :P
40:28 <Halcyon> Just change the colours and make it look like a terminal
40:34 <hsn93> hahaha
40:46 <hsn93> wait i have to hide the laugh from my face
40:49 <hsn93> and look serious
41:08 * hsn93 scratches head like solving hard algorithm
41:57 <Halcyon> Doesn't help when someone does this though...
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42:19 <Halcyon> : : : : : : :, : : : : : :/
42:21 <Halcyon> "-„_::::_„-*__„„~"
42:25 <Halcyon> Dammit, it didn't fit :P
42:27 <Halcyon> It was supposed to be cock and balls
44:45 <Halcyon> I LOVE the POST screen on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n0kWWqQ0D8
44:50 <Halcyon> (At 12:19)
46:45 <ThunderSqueak> o.o
46:52 <Halcyon> Oh hai ThunderSqueak
46:57 <ThunderSqueak> uhm hi
47:11 <Halcyon> How you doing? Recovering OK?
47:15 <ThunderSqueak> 8=m==D
47:20 <Halcyon> Hahaha
47:22 <ThunderSqueak> 8==m=D
47:29 <ThunderSqueak> 8===mD
47:30 <Halcyon> Except I'm not circumcised
47:34 <ThunderSqueak> shh
47:41 <ThunderSqueak> 8==m=D
47:46 <ThunderSqueak> 8=m==D
48:03 <ThunderSqueak> 8m===D~
48:06 <ThunderSqueak> there ya go
48:07 <ThunderSqueak> <.<
48:10 <Halcyon> :D
48:18 <Halcyon> But yeh, how are you doing?
48:49 <ThunderSqueak> I am doing ok, reading a book in german as It has been decades since I have actually used the language seriously
49:03 <Halcyon> That's different
49:38 <ThunderSqueak> I picked up a few easy reads... Momo, The Never Ending Story, etc
49:55 <ThunderSqueak> currently reading a book of short stories
50:01 <Halcyon> Nice
50:24 <hsn93> that retro pc vid sounds cool
50:34 <Halcyon> Yeh
50:41 <Halcyon> I miss NT4.0
50:57 <ThunderSqueak> oh, I have also been shopping for an engagement ring for my GF
51:02 <Halcyon> Oh wow
51:07 <Halcyon> Look at you
51:10 <ThunderSqueak> <.<
51:15 <hsn93> lol first time i see the m as hand
51:30 <ThunderSqueak> XD
51:31 <Halcyon> hsn93, were you born in 1993?
51:37 <hsn93> yes Halycyon
51:41 <Halcyon> I'm surprised
51:45 <hsn93> why
51:49 <ThunderSqueak> 93 is so young
51:54 <ThunderSqueak> or, I am old
51:56 <ThunderSqueak> <.<
52:06 <Halcyon> Pretty much every guy in their 20's and 30's think about sex/masturbation
52:07 <hsn93> im 26 now .. not so young anymore ?
52:13 <ThunderSqueak> but yeah, I am going to marry this one before she gets away ^^
52:22 <Halcyon> Why would she get away?
52:26 <ThunderSqueak> hsn93, you are a kid :P
52:32 <hsn93> im married :D
52:44 <ThunderSqueak> Halcyon, she probably wont, considering she wants to marry me XD
52:49 <Halcyon> \o/
53:05 <ThunderSqueak> she told me already I am family, and part of her clan
53:10 <ThunderSqueak> she is native
53:15 <Halcyon> Native what?
53:18 <ThunderSqueak> her mom likes me
53:21 <ThunderSqueak> native alaskan
53:29 <Halcyon> Different
53:34 <hsn93> i know the big flexible flobby disk .. am i still kid :( ?
53:45 <ThunderSqueak> hsn93, 26 is still a kid
53:52 <Halcyon> hsn93: I have a box of 8" floppy disks at work
53:59 <ThunderSqueak> still lots of learning and growing to do...
54:00 <Halcyon> Hah ThunderSqueak; I'm not that much older :P
54:11 <hsn93> yup
54:13 <ThunderSqueak> I am 42 in a couple weeks XD
54:40 <Halcyon> Old fart :P
54:49 <ThunderSqueak> heh
54:55 <hsn93> thundersqueak u r a chick ? :D
55:01 <hsn93> https://snipboard.io/1izf8a.jpg
55:01 <ThunderSqueak> yes, so?
55:35 <ThunderSqueak> and yeah, that is me
55:35 <hsn93> wait thats real u ?
55:39 <hsn93> lol ok
55:39 <Halcyon> hsn93: There are quite a few gay/bi/trans people in this industry
55:54 <Halcyon> No idea why
55:59 <ThunderSqueak> I know why
56:03 <hsn93> why
56:04 <Halcyon> I think the gays are slowly taking over the world :P
56:12 <hsn93> Age: 29 and holding
56:35 <ThunderSqueak> because when you are young, and the world rejects you... you often hide in your room when you are a kid, or spend those hours reading books... you learn
57:18 <ThunderSqueak> Halcyon, honestly, if all the LGBT people left the USA, I think it would go back into the dark ages.... we invent, control, and maintain almost all the underlying tech in the USA
57:35 <Halcyon> The Chinese think they are going to win... they have a rude shock coming :P
57:51 <ThunderSqueak> reminds me of something....
58:07 <Halcyon> hsn93: We like the straighies anyway :P
58:16 <Halcyon> You guys have an important job
58:21 <hsn93> :D
58:24 <Halcyon> *straighties
58:50 <hsn93> straighties who r intrested in anything ?
59:01 <Halcyon> I'll be back soon, got to cook chicken
59:03 <Halcyon> clear
59:19 <hsn93> ok
59:43 <ThunderSqueak> remember when the argument was "If you don't like what's out there, go and make your own?" and we did... and now they are like "what's all this gay shit?!?!"
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01:57 <ThunderSqueak> hi there hsn :>
02:05 <hsn> hi, got alot of disconnects
02:18 <ThunderSqueak> ah :<
02:19 <hsn> wifi crap usb
02:40 <ThunderSqueak> my gerbils are chasing each other
02:55 <hsn> i've to translate (gerbils)
03:02 <ThunderSqueak> what is your first language?
03:08 <hsn> arabic
03:14 <ThunderSqueak> oh, ok
03:23 <hsn> oh small mice
03:32 <ThunderSqueak> large mice
03:37 <ThunderSqueak> about 2-3 times bigger
03:46 <ThunderSqueak> half a rat
03:49 <ThunderSqueak> XD
04:34 <hsn> i ment (small rat) :D excuse my language
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06:14 <hsn> + we dont have lot of gay exposure here, so u r girl but intrested in girls right?
07:47 <ThunderSqueak> yes
08:11 <ThunderSqueak> one of those things you can't really help ^^
08:43 <hsn> which things?
08:52 <ThunderSqueak> your sexual preference
09:41 <K> hello
09:45 <hsn> hi K
09:55 <ThunderSqueak> Hello there
09:55 <EEVBlog> Hello there, ThunderSqueak!
10:04 <hsn> hi dave
10:14 <hsn> fake dave :}
10:17 * ThunderSqueak pokes the bot.
11:04 <ThunderSqueak> meh, The real Dave knows who I am anyway XD not that it matters ^^
11:22 <K> don't poke lest it turns into drop bear on us
11:38 <ThunderSqueak> it might, with complete canyoning gear
12:22 <hsn> Hello there
12:37 <hsn> /Hello there
12:37 <EEVBlog> Hello there, hsn!
13:09 <hsn> /commands
13:12 <hsn> /help
13:28 <hsn> /ls -la
13:34 <hsn> it doesnt work
13:51 <ThunderSqueak> rawr
13:57 <ThunderSqueak> why not just talk in here :>
14:42 <hsn> hello there
15:02 <hsn> it has to be H ?
15:21 <ThunderSqueak> what has to be H ?
15:29 <hsn> Hello there
15:39 <ThunderSqueak> oh, you are playing with the bot
15:44 <hsn> yeah
15:55 <hsn> i have no idea what r it commands
16:03 <hsn> man eevblog
16:17 <hsn> man ampera
16:26 <hsn> :D
17:38 <hsn> i used to join (Evilzone) irc chat they had cool bot
18:12 <ThunderSqueak> ah
19:30 <ThunderSqueak> I have been lurking on IRC networks for way to long to admit too <.<;;
19:50 <hsn> https://github.com/EvilzoneLabs/BeastBot
20:53 <hsn> i dont understand how its still live :D
22:43 <ThunderSqueak> irc networks never die
23:15 <ThunderSqueak> going to bed as soon as I can put stuff in the dryer o.o
23:21 <ThunderSqueak> *waits for laundry*
23:41 <hsn> enjoy
23:50 <hsn> i've to go
23:54 <hsn> for now
23:56 <hsn> its a brake
24:00 <hsn> break
24:03 <ThunderSqueak> ah
24:06 <ThunderSqueak> have fun
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30:16 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - no, I don't do emc measurements, but I build the tools to do them :)
30:44 <hsn> like lisns ?
32:09 <Ysjoelfir> we buy those from extern. but we build a high precision power analyzer that can measure emc
33:27 <hsn> nice
33:40 <hsn> u r the yokogawa enemy
33:41 <hsn> ?
33:42 <hsn> :D
34:15 <Ysjoelfir> the company I work for is (as far as yokogawa says) the biggest competitor, yes ^^
35:10 <hsn> Tinkertubes Lab
35:10 <hsn> is u ?
35:35 <Ysjoelfir> yes. but that is not the company I work for, that is just my hobby^^
47:37 <hsn> do u ever use gears that u salvage ?
48:30 <Ysjoelfir> I collect many of those, but have rarely used some. which is why I gave a whole lot of those away to a workmate recently
49:21 <hsn> yeah, i thought these gears are always (being collected) but never used
52:09 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I just cracked the Top 10 list of the biggest channels on @LBRYio W00t! https://t.co/4J3Uc5o3kj
52:35 <Ysjoelfir> what is @LBRYio?
53:12 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: It's an alternative to Youtube
53:15 <Halcyon> Dave posts his videos there
53:43 <Ysjoelfir> ah
53:54 <Ysjoelfir> Did you make your tea eggs?
54:00 <Halcyon> Not yet
54:19 * Ysjoelfir slobbers on his eggs
54:28 <Halcyon> :P
54:32 * ThunderSqueak hands Halcyon a stick.
54:41 <Halcyon> What's the stick for?
54:55 * ThunderSqueak sits back and observes the confusion.
54:56 * Ysjoelfir ducks
55:06 <K> stick if for the drop bear.
55:10 <Ysjoelfir> XD
55:14 <Halcyon> Heh
55:30 <K> stay safe!
55:39 * ThunderSqueak should try sleeping again
55:43 <ThunderSqueak> I hate insomnia
55:48 <Halcyon> I should go to bed
56:04 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to sleep right now, but it isn't even lunchtime
56:11 <ThunderSqueak> its 2am
56:19 <Ysjoelfir> its 11:56
56:19 <Halcyon> It's 2200 here
56:34 <K> its 12:56, you insensitive clods!
56:48 <ThunderSqueak> nah
56:52 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, what time is it at your place? :D
57:13 <hsn> 13:57
57:17 <hsn> 2pm
57:26 <ThunderSqueak> so 12 hours difference exactly o.o
57:36 <Ysjoelfir> ok, we need some more people to get a full circle :)
58:02 <hsn> full circle ?
58:25 <hsn> T3sl4 time now ?
58:26 <Ysjoelfir> someone for every hour of the day
58:44 <hsn> because usually he comes after 2 hours :D
59:02 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera should definitely implement the timezone database for the bot.
59:15 <ThunderSqueak> ... I just learned of a product that is on the market... by watching masterchef
59:24 <Halcyon> Mmmm ?
59:41 <Ysjoelfir> It can't be as good as chef excellence
59:47 <ThunderSqueak> https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/547a0d81e4b07ee9b5be1a8c/1532967469805-4DNF4LNSJH2P9F4AWF4F/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kDLQdTssnjLuDUZANbYIHkF7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z4YTzHvnKhyp6Da-NYroOW3ZGjoBKy3azqku80C789l0q-2qSIFamD7xsZmrBIbUDxMcjKt2kbKAtmfSC3owXNASjxhK1Ef3Ux1yglAH72BbQ/parmela-creamery-mozerella-cheese-shredded.png
00:03 <Ysjoelfir> Oo
00:17 <Halcyon> Haha you a fan of Ashens too Ysjoelfir ?
00:20 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like fraud to me
00:22 <ThunderSqueak> aged nutcheese
00:24 <Ysjoelfir> sure i am :D
00:28 <Ysjoelfir> @hal
00:39 <Halcyon> ThunderSqueak, funny you should say that, I'm watching this right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW3_qgYe8Xc
01:13 <ThunderSqueak> Halcyon, I can't eat that, would kill me
01:26 <ThunderSqueak> but yeah, the name just made me snort
01:28 <ThunderSqueak> <.<
03:52 <hsn> im tired
08:23 <ThunderSqueak> night
08:36 Quit: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
08:44 <hsn> see ya
11:34 <Ysjoelfir> I hope Squeaky finds sleep now
11:51 <Ysjoelfir> while I'm waiting - again - for pulsonix to render a 3D model
12:21 <hsn> ;')
13:22 <hsn> can i ask about somthing simple
13:35 <Ysjoelfir> I investigated its... "slowness" a bit more. that stoopid software uses only one of the 16 cores my machine has. and it renders every fucking via despite me activating that it doesn't need to export vias...
13:54 <Ysjoelfir> if i delete every via - boom, fast(er)
14:14 <Ysjoelfir> depends on what you want to ask? :)
14:34 <hsn> just protection stuff
14:45 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/D0189a.jpg << i want to replace the zener diode with clamping diode to 5v rail ..
14:49 <Ysjoelfir> you should always use a condon
14:54 <Ysjoelfir> *condom
14:54 <hsn> :D :D :D
15:03 <hsn> im fine with having kid
15:43 <hsn> then i've to put protection tvs on the 5v rail right?
16:28 <hsn> then i've to go to all components connected to that 5v power rail and check if they accept the voltage that TVS will have at some clamping current ?
16:58 <Ysjoelfir> you mean you want to clamp the input to a 5V rail and protect that instead of the input itself?
17:49 <hsn> yes becasue protecting the input = leakage current
18:03 <hsn> so redirect with diode ..
20:45 <hsn> like this : https://snipboard.io/3nTLCR.jpg
20:51 <Ysjoelfir> if the input level doesn't exceed your diode voltage and if the diode is fast enough I would assume that it should be possible and simmilarly effective. But I personally prefer to protect the inputs independently, so I haven't tried that yet. T3sl4 could give a definite answer I guess?
21:16 <Ysjoelfir> oh wait
21:18 <hsn> but this will direct surges to 5v rail ..
21:19 <Ysjoelfir> I did try it
21:59 <Ysjoelfir> I nearly forgot about that project because it didn't work, but that protection part worked.
22:31 <Ysjoelfir> So, I would assume: that should work, if you don't have super sensitive parts to be protected.
22:50 <hsn> and if i've ?
22:56 <hsn> what would be the soloution
23:28 <Ysjoelfir> well, a lm358 isn't what I would call sensitive ;)
23:29 <hsn> lets say i've part that has max abs (6.5v) on the 5v rail
24:21 <hsn> no, im talking about all the components that are connected to the 5v ..
25:38 <hsn> for example i've TPS2113PWR
26:00 <Ysjoelfir> that would be dependant on the layout. if you route (eg.) the protection diode straight to a VCC pin of a sensitive part while your TVS is half a mile away on the opposite side of the board I could immagine situations where a surge could kill that part
26:41 <hsn> hmm, but diffenetly i've to have tvs on 5v right?
27:06 <hsn> bcz this diode isnt clamping anything its just redirecting to 5v
27:46 <Ysjoelfir> you could use other protection methods as well, but if you intend to redirect a surge to a supply rail I personally would feel bad not protecting the supply rail itself.
27:56 <Ysjoelfir> but also, that is highly dependant on the surge you suspect
28:25 <hsn> other method = leakages ?
28:45 <hsn> other methods = inaccurate of the signal i mean right?
29:24 <hsn> btw, i've no problem in the current design even with zener leakage i've good results but im curious what if this was senstive high impedance signal..
29:47 <Ysjoelfir> if you are talking about thousands of volts I wouldn't go without any surge protection. but if instead we are talking about... maybe a 12V surge because some dickhead connected the input to a car battery, that could be ok-ish, depending on the rest of the circuit
30:24 <Ysjoelfir> (lunchtime :) brb)
30:36 <hsn> enjoy ur launch
32:50 <rust_collector> lunch, haha
33:20 <rust_collector> I am done working, and back home. and I feel that is ok
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40:13 <rust_collector> why would I connect the input of that to a car battery?
41:09 <K> for shits and giggles!
50:20 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, can you explain why you say lunch (lunsj) to breakfast? I never understood.
50:37 <rust_collector> I don't
50:54 <Ysjoelfir> You don't say that or you can't explain?
51:24 <rust_collector> I can not explain, because I do not say lunsj when I am talking about frokost
52:25 <Ysjoelfir> seems legit
52:32 <rust_collector> so, we have had a bit of weather here
53:25 <rust_collector> there is a truck that has... somehow fallen over on its side, on the ferry. Or "lost balance" as the newspaper person wrote
53:40 <Ysjoelfir> how does that happen oO
55:22 <rust_collector> well, you use an unstable ferry, and an unstable truck, then you load it all wrong, and put all that stuff out there in the waves
56:24 <Ysjoelfir> that... sounds somehow logicaly
00:48 <rust_collector> they have places to chain down the trucks, but I do not think they have ever used those on this boat
00:55 <steve30> I went to the gym this morning. I feel better for it. I've been a bit stuck at home for the last few weeks.
01:20 <rust_collector> gym
01:26 <rust_collector> oh yes
01:31 <rust_collector> I remember that
02:52 <rust_collector> If i get a job where I do even less than now, I think I have to give up, and go to the gym
05:01 <rust_collector> how long does it take to get to the gym, from your home?
05:58 <steve30> by bike about 45 minutes. By Bus, 30 minutes, plus 10 minutes walk to the bus stop.
06:40 <rust_collector> hmm, ok. that is like a second workout
06:49 <steve30> yup
07:28 <rust_collector> So I guess you hate yourself on the leg days when you did ride your bike?
09:38 <steve30> nah
09:59 <rust_collector> no? well... uhm
10:12 <rust_collector> something is not right
12:38 <MrMobodies> Hello. yes.. something is not right. I have got a bad cold.
13:02 <rust_collector> great! congratulations
13:09 <MrMobodies> I can't lie down. Too much pressure in head.
13:32 <MrMobodies> Go out in the cold. pressure drops but I feel uncomfortable
14:02 <MrMobodies> No gym around here so I am going to get some weights.
14:48 <rust_collector> people give away old pianos, they have a lot of weight
15:14 <MrMobodies> That's an idea... I have got space.
15:39 <MrMobodies> I have been lifting up lead acid batteries and using a bike that needs a lot of service
15:41 <rust_collector> actual weights are expensive
16:28 <MrMobodies> I wouldn't pay full price for them
16:37 <rust_collector> no ok
16:59 <steve30> When I started doing some weight lifting years ago to help my dodgy shoulder, I used a camera lens, then progressed to a small lead acid battery
17:01 <MrMobodies> I have seen them down bootsales but they're a long a way away where I moved.
17:38 <rust_collector> ooof, shoulders are the worst things
17:38 <MrMobodies> I have a few 12v 7a
19:12 <steve30> My dodgy hip seems to cause more problems than my shoulder does these days.
19:19 <steve30> In fact my shoulder has been fine recently
19:50 <MrMobodies> I did some years ago trip up on a pothole
19:54 <rust_collector> well, that is good, I am just saying a shoulder joint is a weird design.
20:19 <MrMobodies> after wearing the boot,I had 6 months of cramps, muscel spasms because of the single boot.
20:42 <MrMobodies> I could only stand up not lie down
20:56 <rust_collector> oh, so the same as now
21:04 <MrMobodies> went into physiotherapy and some could stand but then as least they could sleep
22:38 <Ysjoelfir> I had problems with my back giving me pain every now and then after sitting for to long. changed to barefoot shoes, now I don't have that problem anymore (well, at least it reduced from daily pain to once a week..)
22:52 <MrMobodies> My second phone line has cut out again. I just hope when the engineer gets here the fault will still show.
23:25 <rust_collector> barefoot shoes...
24:34 <MrMobodies> it was a single shoe. I wanted another one as it was an inch big and asked if that would cause me problem when I broke my foot in the pothole. They insisted it will be fine.
24:51 <MrMobodies> instead of plaister of paris
28:21 <rust_collector> when I broke my foot, They decided my regular shoes with an alloy sole in it would be enough. that was interesting
28:29 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, barefoot shoes :) sounds strange, but that is actually a thing.
29:13 <rust_collector> that is like a hoverboard. it does not hover, and it is not a board either
29:42 <Ysjoelfir> well, a barefoot shoe is at least a shoe.
29:48 <Ysjoelfir> but you are not barefoot, yes.
30:06 <MrMobodies> did they give you two or one shoe for your broken foot?
30:37 <rust_collector> just one, it was just a 2-3mm thick piece of aluminum
30:54 <rust_collector> and I had shoes already
31:20 <MrMobodies> The one I had was like an inch tall
31:36 <K> aluminium shoes?
31:37 <MrMobodies> when I stopped wearing it my should looked like it was
31:38 <K> wat
31:38 <rust_collector> yeah, well, I used my regular shoes, so...
31:41 <MrMobodies> unbalanced
31:54 <MrMobodies> when it put back on it was level
32:12 <MrMobodies> that was when I had a the muscle cramps a day after I stopped using it
32:27 <MrMobodies> I could stand with little pain
32:31 <MrMobodies> sit down with some pain
32:41 <MrMobodies> lie down and the pain gets worse
32:48 <MrMobodies> I had to sleep in a car seat for a week
32:50 <rust_collector> K, no, an aluminium sole, to put inside a shoe
32:56 <MrMobodies> oh
33:13 <rust_collector> rust my regular shoes
33:18 <rust_collector> or just
33:27 <rust_collector> maybe with rust
33:35 <steve30> Ysjoelfir, I pondered getting some barefoot shoes. Never did though.
33:43 <Ysjoelfir> NOOOOOOOO! The great god of Pulsonix is done generating the 3D Preview... but I missed the checkbox "export .STEP while generating" :'( Now i have to do it again.... narf.
34:04 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, try them, you either love the feeling or hate it :)
34:07 <rust_collector> It is done, except I forgot to start it
34:33 <Ysjoelfir> basically. now it just shows me the rendered model in its preview window without any way to save a step file
34:43 <steve30> It usually feels pleasant walking with no shoes. Until I find the surface is too hot or too cold or too rough
34:45 <steve30> etc
35:17 <rust_collector> I did watch a show about the load on your knees, iIrc, when running in shoes, and without. it was pretty interesting, and it did make a huge difference
35:38 <MrMobodies> Barefoot shoes, is that what runners use? I once had a shoe like that and it hurt me in the back of my foot
36:04 <MrMobodies> I could feel the metal digging in the top
36:33 <MrMobodies> It was metal and they had spikes to grip the grass.
37:22 <Ysjoelfir> then it could be something for you, steve30. that was what I noticed, too. I love walking barefoot, but out on the streets with al the dirt and debris.. not so much.
37:30 <Ysjoelfir> MrMobodies no, it's a different thing
37:40 <rust_collector> spikes does not sound like anything barefoot-ish
38:40 <MrMobodies> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=barefoot+shoes&t=h_&ia=images&iax=images
38:54 <Ysjoelfir> it's basically a shoe with a very soft, thin sole that doesn't constrict any movement of the foot. you feel the ground without touching it and your foot can move freely.
39:17 <MrMobodies> so it is firm
39:21 <Ysjoelfir> but you must (or should) learn how to walk in those. regular shoes have made us walk on the rear end of the shoes, which is not what evolution wanted^^
39:26 <rust_collector> so it is a bag
39:52 <MrMobodies> I'll see if I can get hold of one
39:53 <rust_collector> a foot bag, that is nice
40:25 <rust_collector> https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-CdPbICLO63A%2FT4z6To91WrI%2FAAAAAAAAFOI%2FuGG3S30R83Q%2Fs1600%2Fcrazy-shoes3.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
40:28 <Ysjoelfir> right now I wear those. don't mind the german text, but the pictures show the amount of "softness" of those. http://gruenwiegras.blogspot.com/2016/06/immer-barfu-unterwegs-mit-barfuschuhen.html
40:55 <MrMobodies> That could surprise a few walkers
41:10 <Ysjoelfir> xD nice one rust
41:57 <rust_collector> we had a plumber, who was always barefoot. he was also crazy, and a pretty hardcore alcoholic
42:18 <rust_collector> but yeah, he was barefoot in snow and mud and shit
42:40 <rust_collector> I guess you get used to it
43:00 <Ysjoelfir> I also have those, but it isn't cold enough to wear them everyday. https://www.zaqq.de/expeq-bash-waterproof/
43:13 <rust_collector> wth? vegan shoes?
43:27 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, i thought so, too. but I don't care.
43:44 <MrMobodies> The problem with me...I am too lazy to tie shoe laces. So I have the velcro straps.
44:01 <Ysjoelfir> it's a good shoe, no matter if its made from real or artificial leather. though I would have prefered real leather
44:33 <Ysjoelfir> MrMobodies, the ones I wear right now are so soft that I don't untie them... I'm lazy, too. that's why I don't wear the winter boots right now
44:59 <rust_collector> I have not tied a shoe in... decades
45:11 <rust_collector> well, when I got to sunerals and such
45:12 <MrMobodies> I find I spend more time tying them up when they become loose
45:15 <rust_collector> funerals
45:20 <MrMobodies> than the trip itself
45:32 <rust_collector> well, tie them properly
45:47 <MrMobodies> I also had someone do it for me, then it comes apart
45:58 <MrMobodies> no others complain so it is me
47:04 <Ysjoelfir> I have a double knot on those... works for me
47:15 <rust_collector> tie them nice, and just a little drop of superglue
47:48 <MrMobodies> oh those. I have tried double knot and it becomes a nightmare to undo. I just can't tie shoe laces.
48:23 <Ysjoelfir> well, I don't need to undo those. I just slip in and out
48:24 <MrMobodies> I do a knot but they seem to unloosen as I am walking.
48:25 <rust_collector> then just don't undo them
48:42 <MrMobodies> I think I took them out as I was tripping on them
48:46 <rust_collector> well, I guess we use different shoes
48:49 <MrMobodies> and I chanfed to velcro
49:09 <rust_collector> I can not find shoes with velcro
49:49 <MrMobodies> https://www.chums.co.uk/Products/MJ367/mens-cushion-walk-touch-fasten-shoe?
49:52 <MrMobodies> it is a bit like that
49:57 <MrMobodies> the strap is velcro
50:18 <MrMobodies> It stretches too which means I don't have to loosen/unloosen it.
51:26 <rust_collector> do they have them in grownup sizes too?
51:35 <MrMobodies> oh yes
51:48 <MrMobodies> wide foot for my feet at Clarks shoes.
52:04 <K> a widefoot
52:18 <MrMobodies> my feet are wide
52:40 <MrMobodies> so a bigger size will fit but too much of space
52:46 <rust_collector> Mine are not very wide, but they are... high?
52:49 <MrMobodies> so they call it is a wide fit size
53:00 <rust_collector> right.
53:02 <MrMobodies> the shoe isn't long just extra wide
53:55 <rust_collector> I have problems, because most shoes that look normal stop at eu size 46, whatever that is in uk/us
54:38 <Ysjoelfir> Welcome to my world. which size do you need?
54:50 <rust_collector> 48
55:00 <Ysjoelfir> same here. sometimes 47 fits
55:15 <MrMobodies> I f25.5 by 10cm
55:18 <rust_collector> yeah, I think I need a 47.5, but that is not a thing
55:43 <MrMobodies> for many years until I found those it was a burden on me
55:56 <Ysjoelfir> a friend of mine had 56.... in school year 10. so that would be... 16 years old
56:16 <rust_collector> yeah, some people are deformed
56:29 <MrMobodies> 56 is big?
56:55 <Ysjoelfir> 56 is very big.
56:56 <rust_collector> 56 is probably similar to uk size 18 or 20 or something
57:27 <Ysjoelfir> he had to go to a shoemaker for every shoe he needed as you can't buy that size normals
58:41 <MrMobodies> Clarks Flexright uk 8.5 us 9.5 eu 42.5 cn 260(3.0) Made in Vietnam
58:55 <MrMobodies> oops Clarks Flexlight
59:33 <rust_collector> you could probably sit in a size 56, and float around on a lake
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