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00:26:22 <Ysjoelfir> hi rusty
00:26:52 <rust_collector> brrr what an awful day.
00:27:18 <Ysjoelfir> sounds great!
00:27:30 <rust_collector> I am pretty sure I will die slightly. wife took the kids to the beach, so that is ok.
00:28:56 <rust_collector> I will cook some noodles, because I can not find anything more interesting right now
00:29:26 <Ysjoelfir> make some for me, too, please
00:31:14 <rust_collector> sure. in just 16 days, you can come to denmark and eat them there
00:36:10 <rust_collector> well, that is the plan so far, I think
00:37:04 <Ysjoelfir> great! see you then!
00:40:01 <rust_collector> at least the paper says denmark is opening to no, is, de, and I think that was it. on the 15th
00:42:20 <Ysjoelfir> has there even been anything in IS?
00:42:32 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, like more than 8 people
00:42:52 <rust_collector> no, bu thtat is like 36% of their population
00:44:08 <Ysjoelfir> I like playing Crusader Kings 2. Usually I start as either Harald Hardråde or... erm... the swedish guy. First thing to do: conquer denmark.
00:44:51 <rust_collector> well, they say: you can go to denmark, but you have to follow danish rules....ok.... you have to have at least 6 nights booked, but not in copenhagen, you can go to copenhagen, but not sleep there
00:45:26 <rust_collector> well, is the south of sweden danish at that time?
00:47:53 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
00:48:40 <rust_collector> good good. I would go the other way, and make the rest of sweden and finland danish
00:50:01 <Ysjoelfir> I tried that once and failed. that swedish guy... Radnwald of Swithjod (?) was just to strong :D
00:51:14 <rust_collector> well, kill him then. dead people are usually weakened a lot
00:52:35 <Ysjoelfir> right! I should try that the next time
00:52:53 <rust_collector> yes. actually, kill all the swedes
00:55:55 * Ampera has leftover kfc
00:56:10 * Ysjoelfir wants KFC
00:56:21 * Ysjoelfir kills all the swedes next time he has the chance to do so
00:56:22 <rust_collector> kids in sweden could eat that....
00:56:24 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, if you come over I'll let you have some
00:56:35 <Ysjoelfir> Ok, I start walking
00:57:11 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, can you swim?
00:57:22 <rust_collector> he might float....
00:57:33 <Ampera> a floater, eh?
00:58:02 <rust_collector> I will not comment more on that
00:58:11 <Ampera> you just did
01:02:47 <Ysjoelfir> xD
01:10:51 <rust_collector> that is ok, but I got to say I would not, and you got what I thought... it works ok
01:17:20 <Ampera> you did it again
01:17:42 <rust_collector> well, it got very quiet here
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01:56:21 <rust_collector> I think I will sort some stuff in the kitchen, and put a lot of stuff away. we have too much kitchen stuff
02:36:06 <Ysjoelfir> same goes for me. but SWMBO likes her gadgets
02:36:32 <rust_collector> yes, but now, wife is at the beach...
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02:47:50 <Ysjoelfir> Riiiight, I see what you did there ;)
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03:57:10 <Lemon> for fun I took a band of 20 resistors, 47K 1% chinese nonames
03:57:13 <Lemon> and measured them
03:57:37 <Lemon> theres three that are really great, 0.08, 0.03 and 0.008%
03:57:50 <Lemon> well, great in value thats it
03:57:55 <Lemon> tempco is still probably shit
03:58:20 * Ampera sqeezes Lemon
03:58:54 <Lemon> :o
03:59:44 <Ampera> how are you doing Lemon
04:00:17 <Lemon> ho im doing ok, I was talking about how humans can be horrible
04:00:19 <Lemon> and you ?
04:01:03 <Ampera> Lemon, the entirety of the US is talking about that right now.
04:01:19 <Lemon> why that ?
04:01:24 <Lemon> I mean, what in particular
04:01:36 <Ampera> Have you not seen the news?
04:01:43 <Ampera> The entirety of the US is in total chaos
04:01:57 <Lemon> no ? well I mean last days but today no
04:02:01 <Lemon> what happened ?
04:02:13 <Ampera> Well over a dozen cities have enacted curfews, as rioters have been breaking into stores, settings fires, assaulting and killing people
04:02:28 <Ampera> Multiple state militias have been called out
04:02:30 <Lemon> really ? damn lemme read
04:04:17 <Lemon> so they protest because of the confinement ?
04:04:21 <Lemon> the lock down I mean
04:04:28 <Ampera> No, not really
04:04:35 <Ampera> and to be clear, there are protesters and there are rioters
04:04:54 <Lemon> yeah usually rioters break stuff just 'because'
04:05:00 <Lemon> theres no good reasons to do that
04:05:02 <Ampera> the protesters are out because maybe a week ago, a police officer kneeled on a black guy's neck until he died
04:05:03 <Lemon> thats not sane
04:05:04 <Ampera> for like 10 minutes
04:05:11 <Lemon> ha yeah I heard about that
04:05:19 <Ampera> people have been protesting police brutality for longer than I've been alive
04:05:23 <Lemon> yes
04:05:24 <Ampera> LA Riots being a prime example
04:05:29 <Lemon> thats what I was writing
04:05:47 <Lemon> puting trump or alike as a president aint helping
04:05:48 <Ampera> The rioters are here for a whole number of reasons
04:05:51 <Lemon> im not saying he promotes that
04:06:01 <Ampera> Lemon, it's complicated
04:06:18 <Ampera> People like to blame Trump because he's the president, when in reality there's nothing he can really do about any of it
04:06:21 <Ampera> for good or for worse
04:06:25 <Lemon> yes yes totally
04:06:28 <Lemon> but seriously
04:06:42 <Lemon> just looking at him, and knowing a good 50 + petcent voted for him
04:06:43 <Ampera> We're going to have four more years of him though, it's almost a foregone conclusion
04:06:47 <Ampera> nope
04:06:49 <Ampera> nope nope nope
04:06:49 <Lemon> thats really, really fucked up
04:06:55 <Ampera> that's not how the vote works here Lemon
04:07:01 <Lemon> yes true not 50 percent
04:07:17 <Lemon> I dont know how to say it but I see roughly how it works
04:07:27 <Ampera> To start out with, voter turnout in 2016 was 55%
04:07:27 <Lemon> but anyway
04:07:35 <Ampera> so 55% of people eligible to vote showed up
04:07:43 <Ampera> among those people, less than 50% voted for trump
04:07:48 <Ampera> Hillary won by over 3 million votes
04:08:18 <Lemon> ha dude capable of saying 'I see that virus get killed when we wash our hands with alchooholic solution, maybe we could inject it to treat corona'
04:08:21 <Ampera> However we have a system called electoral voting, whereby states have direct control over a small set of votes that actually determine the president
04:08:38 <Lemon> or 'a state that dont want to remove lock down isnt a true american'
04:08:53 <Ampera> Lemon, it's claimed he said bleach, and I didn't even see it
04:09:00 <Ampera> as for that second bit I've never heard that and don't think he said that
04:09:12 <Lemon> yeah bleach whatever, I dont remember his exact word but I saw it live
04:09:22 <Lemon> he did said that yes
04:09:29 <Ampera> The biggest problem with Trump is that people pay attention to him
04:09:32 <Lemon> he called out governors
04:09:33 <Ampera> and that includes you and me
04:09:34 <Ampera> moving on
04:09:38 <Lemon> yeah true
04:10:22 <Lemon> but each day I get to listen to him, Im more and more amazed
04:10:23 <Ampera> There are complete and total idiots for and against him, and I'm losing my ability to deal with it
04:10:27 <Lemon> maybe amused idk
04:10:32 <Ampera> I hate everyone who hates him, and I hate everyone who likes him
04:10:37 <Ampera> and everyone is just pissing me off to no end
04:10:40 <Lemon> yes thats true
04:10:46 <Lemon> I dont hate him at all, I dont care enough
04:10:50 <Ampera> because he doesn't fucking matter, and nobody who is actually complaining is doing a damn thing constructive about it
04:10:55 <Lemon> I just find it quite satyrical
04:12:08 <Ampera> The world has gone absolutely fucking apeshit in this past week, not even counting COVID
04:12:18 <Ampera> people have just completely lost their ability to act rational, what little they've had
04:12:28 <Ampera> even Tesla blocked me because I was disagreeing with him
04:12:55 <Lemon> the world being the world but on another level
04:13:00 <Lemon> its growing, every year
04:13:05 <Lemon> until it explodes
04:13:11 <Ampera> it just has, Lemon
04:13:12 <Ampera> it just has
04:13:21 <Lemon> hmmm Id say it errupted
04:13:25 <Lemon> but it will be worse
04:13:28 <Lemon> much, much worse
04:14:01 <Lemon> people will eventually get over it in a few, and the next time it will be bigger
04:14:02 <Ampera> I'm gonna go to bed
04:14:05 <Lemon> and bigger, and bigger
04:14:10 <Ampera> sick of dealing with this shit right now
04:14:14 <Lemon> and nothing we can really do about it sadly
04:14:21 <Lemon> just dont overthink about it even if its really hard
04:14:22 <Ampera> except just stop talking about it :P
04:14:26 <Lemon> watch something funny
04:14:32 <Ampera> or just go to bed
04:14:34 <Ampera> ciao
04:14:38 <Lemon> sure :>
04:14:42 <Lemon> take care
04:40:18 <rust_collector> hey Lemon
04:40:27 <Lemon> hey hey
04:40:29 <Lemon> waddup
04:40:50 <rust_collector> I just got home from mum, I had to move some closets around again
04:41:16 <rust_collector> she must have a closet fetish or something. she is always buying and selling them
04:41:36 <Lemon> ha mine is infected too
04:41:41 <Lemon> its a disease I think
04:42:11 <rust_collector> it is a mental condition of some kind
04:42:59 <rust_collector> oh well, I would prefer if she was into smaller things, but it could be worse, I guess
04:43:01 <Lemon> yea probablt
04:43:10 <Lemon> it could be horses
04:43:14 <Lemon> my mother want horses
04:43:18 <Lemon> and sheeps too
04:43:51 <Lemon> hey I measured a band of 20 resistors
04:43:53 <rust_collector> yeah. the people who used to live 2 houses from here, used to have 2 horses in the garage. that was a bit special
04:43:57 <Lemon> 47k 1% chinese ones
04:45:17 <Lemon> I found a 0.08, 0.03 and 0.008%
04:45:57 <rust_collector> so, 3 special ones, from 20?
04:46:05 <rust_collector> how bad were they on average?
04:46:14 <Lemon> they were pretty ok actually
04:46:18 <Lemon> always better than 1%
04:46:36 <Lemon> but they are chinese nonames, so probably horrible tempco/longterm stability
04:46:51 <rust_collector> who knows?
04:47:05 <Lemon> just a guess ! I need that oven to test
04:47:25 <Lemon> also I need something like a shielded box or whatever
04:47:30 <Lemon> its hard to measure low ohms value
04:47:52 <rust_collector> well, if you want to use them, measure them at "operating temp", I guess, and use whatever ones are correct there?
04:48:26 <rust_collector> In a circuit, I mean, not your special reference things
04:48:54 <Lemon> ho I'll keep those for when it doesnt matter at all
04:49:07 <Lemon> I have a kit of better ones on the way, along with precise ones
04:49:15 <Lemon> 1% 25ppm ones
04:49:19 <Lemon> 25ppm/C
04:50:08 <rust_collector> sure, I just mean, if you are going to use some in a device where it matters, as long as it is already at the full temp, it would just work, I guess?
04:50:28 <Lemon> yeah in that case its more the load life that matters
04:50:37 <rust_collector> it could be way off before it heats up, but... as long as you give it time to "start"
04:50:40 <Lemon> how much will they change after 1000 hours of being powered up or whatever
04:51:35 <Lemon> lemme grab another 20
04:52:02 <Lemon> 24k ones this time
04:53:14 <Lemon> what I do is I use a tolerance calculator, and see what values they need to be to hit at least 0.1%
04:53:28 <Lemon> between 23976 and 24024 ohms
04:53:29 <Lemon> lets see
04:58:00 <Lemon> so theres a lot that are really close to 0.1, like 0.15% or whatever
04:58:03 <Lemon> and 4 that are better
04:58:05 <Lemon> lets see now
04:58:38 <rust_collector> so, 20% is good.
05:02:13 <Lemon> Im letting them stabilize a bit
05:02:20 <Lemon> the hp seems to be way more stable than the fluke
05:02:27 <Lemon> even if it shows one digit less for some reasons
05:09:03 <Lemon> 0.052%, 0.028%, 0.027% and 0.015%
05:16:08 <Lemon> thats a funny game
05:16:10 <Lemon> lets try again
05:16:31 <Lemon> 75k ! lets see
05:23:59 <Lemon> the problem is that leads are so thin, that its impossible to not bend them with kelvin clips
05:24:57 <Lemon> wow I think we have a winner
05:28:47 <Lemon> damn its so good that its down the noise
05:28:51 <Lemon> im letting it sit a bit
05:32:39 <Lemon> it exceeds the precision of my meter
05:46:18 <Lemon> so its hard to tell as my meter cant measure that precisely, but if I simply accepts that its 100% accurate, it would be better than 0.001% lol
05:46:30 <Lemon> it stopped at 75999.0K
05:46:34 <Lemon> but it was going up
05:46:47 <Lemon> nice specimen
05:47:21 <rust_collector> well, make a nice walnut block, that it can sit on, and order a small sign with "best resistor 2020" on it
05:47:59 <Lemon> yeshhh
05:48:07 <Lemon> itchh zhee bestchh
05:48:20 <Lemon> there was two that were great too lets measure them
05:48:31 <Lemon> but the rest of the pack was bleh, 1% or more
05:49:57 <Lemon> I remember that conrad hoffman was making a metrology lab cheaply, and he said that to make a kelvin varley divider, you could buy a bunch of 1% resistors and select the best ones, match them by tempco etc and you can actually hit a nice level of accuracy
05:50:43 <DHess_US> Don't even need 1% resistors. 0.1% resistors are not much more expensive.
05:50:53 <rust_collector> well, sure, if you dig thru enough of them, you have to find a few good ones
05:51:31 <Lemon> hmmm not much more idk, not really expensive ok but for example, 1% 25ppm ones cost what, 2 euros per 100 ? when 0.1% are usually 2 euros per 10
05:51:35 <DHess_US> The draw of 1% resistors is the standard values. But if you only need decade values, then 0.1% or better resistors are not that expensive.
05:51:41 <Lemon> maybe less if you have access to digikey etc
05:51:46 <Lemon> but sadly, france sucks for that
05:51:57 <Lemon> but yeah I bought 0.1% ones for my decade box
05:52:08 <Lemon> found some dale/yageo/vishay ones for a decent price
05:52:26 <Lemon> but DHess ! I have a nice one ! 0.001% or close ! thats funny
05:52:33 <Lemon> when you know its supposed to be 1%
05:52:46 <Lemon> ho wait we have another great contender
05:52:48 <DHess_US> But what is the TCR and stability?
05:52:54 <Lemon> shhhhhh
05:52:57 <Lemon> dont talk about that
05:53:03 <Lemon> its our secret !
05:53:08 <DHess_US> Or even VCR (voltage coefficient of resistance)
05:53:16 <Lemon> haha probably pretty bad, its some random chinese noname
05:53:29 <Lemon> im measuring them with kelvin clips, in a box to avoid too much temperature fluctuations
05:53:34 <Lemon> and even then it moves quite a bit
05:53:44 <Lemon> ho maybe you know
05:53:52 <Lemon> my 3456a got only 6 digits in resistance mode
05:53:57 <Lemon> it should show 7, right ?
05:54:00 <Lemon> like voltage
05:54:18 <Lemon> but even if I set it to 6, like on voltage mode (6.5 digit mode) its still 5.5 digits
05:55:24 <Lemon> and also im pretty sure my hp 3456a is within specs, but even if it is, I can measure stuff like that that accurately
05:55:38 <Lemon> specs for that range are 0.003% I think
05:55:58 <Lemon> damn another one is reading 74.9999
06:01:57 <Lemon> 74.9988 now
06:02:03 <Lemon> seems stable
06:05:31 <Lemon> and the third one is alright, but not as good
06:05:37 <Lemon> still close to 0.01% tho
06:06:29 <rust_collector> I think I should look for a soldering gun. just something big and nasty for big-ish wires and stuff
06:06:44 <Lemon> build one !
06:06:47 <Lemon> thats quite easy
06:06:55 <rust_collector> hmm, yeah, maybe
06:07:03 <Lemon> a big nail or whatever, throw current in it
06:08:03 <rust_collector> I have several that no longer work, I just have not opened them up, because they have the triangle weird screws way down a hole.
06:09:37 <Lemon> you really should get one of those ifixit kits
06:09:47 <Lemon> I think it serves me everyday
06:10:08 <Lemon> I never came across something where it didnt got the right bit
06:10:16 <Lemon> even those triangle shit, octogonal myass etc
06:10:34 <rust_collector> any 7 point torx?
06:10:59 <Lemon> 7 ? it exists ?
06:11:04 <Lemon> if it exists yes its there
06:11:15 <Lemon> theres the big kit with 48 bits, and smaller ones with 64
06:11:16 <rust_collector> I have only seen them in late 80's renaults
06:11:21 <Lemon> its really nice quality honestly
06:11:28 <Lemon> 30 euros per box
06:19:04 <Lemon> tommorow I will look more into logging data with the 3456a
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06:33:35 <Lemon> https://xdevs.com/article/tcr_test/#tcbox
06:33:40 <Lemon> it seems they used peltier modules
06:34:37 <hsn> https://imgur.com/a/wTV3J0V
06:34:45 <hsn> wt is dis
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07:07:39 <rust_collector> a bus bar for the earth connection?
07:08:30 <hsn> yeah but why the cyrrent
07:08:44 <rust_collector> it has to go somewhere, right?
07:09:16 <rust_collector> in your case, I bet it has something to do with the router, lol
07:12:58 <rust_collector> so, what is connected to ground, somewhere outside your building, or maybe in it also?
07:19:07 <rust_collector> eeh, well, I am not an electrician. but I guess it could be that the neutral wire has an issue somewhere.
07:19:26 <T3sl4> nowhere near a fault judging by those conductors, but probably not a good sign
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08:09:04 <rust_collector> hmm, midnight. I think it is time for lunch
08:58:48 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, what are you doing up at this time?
09:08:05 <Ysjoelfir> Playing games, what yout you?
09:08:21 <rust_collector> just finished eating lunch
09:08:41 <Ysjoelfir> nice :)
09:09:30 <rust_collector> reading old threads on the forum, about things I do not need to know. but there is a post here and there with something useful in there
09:09:46 <Ysjoelfir> like for example?
09:11:20 <rust_collector> like, all the what scope should I buy threads... I do not need to read those. but then someone mentioned printf statements, and I had a new thing to look into
09:11:41 <rust_collector> I mean, I already have 2 half scopes
09:11:56 <Ysjoelfir> thats as good as one complete one, right?
09:12:04 <rust_collector> almost
09:13:44 <rust_collector> now, I still do not know... would I put the printf in between the capacitor and transistor, or between the transistor and the resistor?
09:14:25 <Ysjoelfir> thats a very good question, maybe you should ask Ampera about that :D
09:14:55 <rust_collector> eeh, I don't have time for that just now. maybe on some extra slow day
09:21:27 <rust_collector> is tomorrow a day off in germanistan?
09:28:02 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The new series Space Force on Netflix looks hilarious! https://t.co/EYuPybBKIC
09:37:04 <Ysjoelfir> YES; ITS pFINGSTEN
09:37:13 <Ysjoelfir> erm... lets see that in reverse caps thing
09:37:34 <rust_collector> yes. i just did not know if you cared
09:38:07 <rust_collector> I have tried to be quiet today. I might not even try tomorrow. we will see
09:39:56 <Ysjoelfir> I dpm
09:39:58 <Ysjoelfir> ---
09:40:02 <Ysjoelfir> I don't really care
09:40:09 <Ysjoelfir> I just enjoy not having to work tomorrow :D
09:40:33 <rust_collector> yeah, i sort of wanted to do some work, but not is fine also
09:40:39 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, epstein didn't kill himself? :P
09:41:57 <rust_collector> nope, he drives a taxi in paris
09:42:09 <rust_collector> he is called jaques now
09:42:48 <Ysjoelfir> XD
09:42:54 <T3sl4> did he change his surname to "offe" as well?
09:44:22 <rust_collector> I dunno? I have my own car
09:44:46 <T3sl4> fair enough
09:45:03 <rust_collector> not that I would get anywhere near paris in that thing
09:52:11 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: If you want space infographics, this is the mother lode. https://t.co/M5q6yFeATy
09:53:12 <rust_collector> what if I do not want to know anything about space things at all? I have plenty of trouble right here.
09:54:09 <T3sl4> put some space into the space between your ears!
09:54:37 <rust_collector>
09:57:25 * T3sl4 notes this in his notebook
10:00:59 <rust_collector> I remember there was a series of books, named "wise words by *name of politician*" it was a nice book, around 150 pages, all blank
10:02:16 <T3sl4> brain transplant -- source, politician; never used
10:02:37 <rust_collector> are you on ebay again?
10:02:51 <rust_collector> be careful
10:03:35 <T3sl4> would hate to get a counterfeit
10:04:35 <rust_collector> yeah, I would not like to get a small chinese knockoff
10:05:42 <T3sl4> it'd probably be stolen
10:06:28 <rust_collector> in this case, I do not think that matters
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10:33:14 <rust_collector> eh?
10:46:27 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
10:46:31 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 :)
10:46:35 <rust_collector> night
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10:47:05 <Ampera> he just left as I was about to ask him what he wanted to ask me
10:47:15 <Ampera> literally as I was typing it
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12:41:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Strange Parts: Think you're fast at soldering? Check out this guy drag soldering on a Chinese factory assembly line. You know what they say - practice makes perfect. Go watch the full video: https://t.co/eFgMbcuV3i https://t.co/vI3HhYSv5i
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16:17:00 <hsn93> hoi
16:17:20 <hsn93> t3sl4 whats going on in US
16:17:28 <hsn93> lots of protest?
16:18:07 <hsn93> related to the black guy death and curropted police ?
16:20:16 <hsn93> death/murder *
17:02:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: When an old video gets more views than your new videos in the last month, you know The Algorithm™ is behind it. https://t.co/OpHKtGGVx2
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17:37:39 <Lemon> hi bois
17:55:58 <Lemon> hah Edwin answered me, thats neat of him it was a good month ago if not more
18:39:24 <hsn93> hi there lemon hope u well .. enjoy ur day
18:39:55 <Lemon> hi hsn :> thanks, how are you ?
18:40:09 <hsn93> im ok ,, can be better :)
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20:02:20 <K> hello
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21:01:26 <rust_collector> hey!
21:30:18 <hsn93> huh this guy is driving them to arrest him xD : https://hsn93.com/www/WhatsApp%20Video%202020-06-01%20at%202.21.37%20PM.mp4
21:31:57 <rust_collector> well....
21:43:09 <hsn93> we11....
21:43:23 <rust_collector> exactly
21:43:32 <hsn93> yeah
21:43:38 <rust_collector> so, how are things over there?
21:44:02 <Ampera> The national capitol has gone under a communications blackout, and last seen was on fire
21:44:16 <Ampera> and not a few small cars set ablaze, on fire
21:45:13 <rust_collector> burning cars is one of the main hobbies people have, when these things happen
21:46:43 <DHess_US> Never park your car in the bad part of town.
21:47:11 <Ampera> DHess_US, when DC is concerned all parts are the bad part, especially right now
21:47:27 <DHess_US> That is a given.
21:47:42 <rust_collector> so, don't park there, lol
21:49:03 <DHess_US> Applies to horses also, https://blog.chron.com/hoofbeats/files/2012/06/2012-06-18_11-36-36_580.jpg
21:49:48 <Ampera> lol gdi
21:49:52 <rust_collector> I get a 451 there, did they burn a parked horse?
21:50:25 <Ampera> rust_collector, probably because you're a filthy European
21:51:21 <rust_collector> yes, it is tricky. I am, but only some times. It depends on what you are talking about at the time. arrggh
21:51:46 <Ampera> This is what happens when you have people really zealous about banning things like opinions and ideas
21:52:54 <rust_collector> ok
21:54:33 <rust_collector> I wonder, now that they are laying a cable, from here, to the other side of ireland, to be connected to the cable across the atlantic... Will we still be seen as europeans, on the internet...
22:14:18 <K> 2nd class
22:14:56 <rust_collector> so, nothing will change then
22:15:39 <K> as is tradition
22:39:28 <rust_collector> I sort of want to make something that can live inside the case from an old smoke detector... But... no, I can not come up with a good idea. maybe I should put the dog-annoying circuit in there, to make nokia charger sounds, when the dogs are barking
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22:42:06 <rust_collector> ho boi!
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22:44:42 <rust_collector> oh, it is you
22:45:14 <K> it's him.
22:47:11 <rust_collector> well... I am not so sure...
22:47:57 <rust_collector> if it was, he would have put a dimmer switch on his toaster by now
23:06:42 <Ampera> I just found out my phone can shoot 4K video
23:06:46 <Ampera> and can do 120FPS slow motion
23:07:01 <Ampera> It's 6 years old so I just assumed it couldn't and didn't
23:12:43 <rust_collector> I wonder if phone cameras a while ago was in a race to be better, now they try to be better at "quick" pics, like selfies and instagram things? I don't know.
23:13:50 <Ampera> rust_collector, phone cameras have gotten insane in what they can do
23:13:59 <Ampera> The S20 Ultra can do 8k 24FPS video
23:14:03 <Ampera> in a phone
23:16:30 <T3sl4> hsn93: yes
23:16:35 * Ampera hugs T3sl4
23:16:50 <T3sl4> *Amperic hugs*
23:17:37 <rust_collector> I should look at my camera a bit. I never bothered. but it is sort of crap. I bet there are some settings in there somewhere
23:18:32 <Ampera> Excellent camera is top priority for my next phone.
23:24:10 <hsn93> T3sl4 so trump went underground yesterday ? xD
23:24:24 <hsn93> 2020 full of shit ...
23:24:33 <T3sl4> i think he's holed up, anyway
23:24:44 <T3sl4> not like they don't have escape tunnels or whatever
23:25:58 <hsn93> would love to see squirrel game hammer trump version
23:26:59 <T3sl4> haha https://i.imgur.com/6ppxtmI.jpg
23:29:16 <Ampera> if I was a cop there I'd laugh my ass off
23:32:37 <K> haha
23:52:00 <T3sl4> hsn93: i guess there's a dc blackout thing on twitter, and likely russian propaganda?
23:52:30 <hsn93> no idea .. is it ?
23:53:08 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtondc/comments/guka5u/there_is_no_blackout_in_dc_stop_making_threads/
23:55:03 <hsn93> trump is bluffing
23:55:14 <hsn93> he is doing it from the basement
23:55:28 <K> trump jelly everyone talking baout the riots and not him
23:58:09 <hsn93> the more important question is why the lcd is showing all pixels black :)
23:59:20 <hsn93> https://photos.app.goo.gl/yU65A7CzoiFnth5g8
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