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00:20:13 <Nevoness> Makes sense.
00:20:23 <Nevoness> Heard that comcast sucks multiple times now
00:20:32 <Ampera> Nevoness, they're not as bad as AT&T
00:20:40 <Nevoness> Well then
00:20:48 <Ampera> AT&T has FttP, VDSL, and ADSL in places
00:20:48 <Nevoness> Going from bad to worse
00:20:48 <Nevoness> lol
00:20:53 <Ampera> but they ban you from using your own router
00:20:54 <Ampera> full stop
00:20:59 <Nevoness> wtf
00:21:02 <Ampera> you must use theirs
00:21:15 <Nevoness> throw it in bridge mode and use your own after theirs
00:21:15 <Nevoness> XD
00:21:16 <Ampera> as theirs is configured with special certificates that allows it and no other onto your ONT
00:21:18 <Ampera> nope
00:21:26 <Ampera> there is no real bridge mode
00:21:30 <Nevoness> Ah fun
00:21:42 <Ampera> the only hack is to crack the certs off the router and stuff it into pfsense
00:21:54 <Ampera> but as far as I know that hack is slowly being obsoleted as AT&T is upping their security
00:22:17 <Ampera> Verizon, which is what I have, is a decent ISP
00:22:41 <Ampera> They're not known to throttle traffic, they have no data caps, if you use your own router the equipment is included, and they offer FttP
00:23:34 <Ysjoelfir> huh, seems like I have some kind of backlog going on here? oO I can't immagine that you guys can type so damn fast.
00:23:57 <Nevoness> I still know the one password you can use to access all Telekom routers here in austria and some in germany
00:23:57 * Ampera clacks furiously at Ysjoelfir
00:24:13 <Ampera> Nevoness, doesn't surprise me
00:24:20 <Ampera> a lot of ISP routers probably don't even have passwords
00:24:25 <electrohead> some of us drink coffee religiously, which helps with the fingers :p
00:24:30 <Nevoness> well but you cant change this one
00:24:36 <Ampera> I do not drink coffee, it makes me nauseous
00:24:48 <electrohead> it's not strong enough then lol
00:24:56 <Nevoness> username is Telek0m ; PW is Austria&Eur0
00:24:57 <Nevoness> öpö
00:24:58 <Ampera> the caffeine is fine
00:24:59 <Nevoness> lol*
00:25:04 <Ampera> it's the actual coffee that makes me nauseous
00:25:26 * Ampera smacks Nevoness with a QWERTY keyboard
00:25:33 <Nevoness> Found the pw out when i wanted to change some settings in my dads Speedtouch modem
00:25:33 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but 0 seconds for eg "but as far as I know that hack is slowly being obsoleted as AT&T is upping their security" is very fast, even for Ampera :P
00:25:55 * Nevoness smacks Ampera with a mechanical QWERTZ keyboard.
00:25:56 <Ampera> My peak typing speed is 160 measured ages ago, it could be even faster now
00:26:01 <Ampera> Nevoness, what mechanical
00:26:04 <Ampera> I have a Model M
00:26:10 <Nevoness> Ooh i want one
00:26:16 <Nevoness> Just a keyboard i modified.
00:26:18 <Ampera> before I had MX Greens
00:26:30 <Nevoness> Used to have cheap shit switches, now i threw in some Gateron Greens
00:26:38 <Ampera> gateron?
00:26:42 <Ampera> they any good?
00:26:43 <Nevoness> Yep
00:26:44 * Ysjoelfir uses... some mechanical tactile thingies right now and is happy.
00:26:46 <Ampera> and are they analogous to MX greens?
00:26:51 * Ysjoelfir would love to have a M, but SWMBO would kill me
00:27:09 <Ampera> I have to mute myself during meetings while typing it's great
00:27:18 * Ysjoelfir enjoys one of hsn 's date cookies with cardamom
00:27:27 <Ampera> mmm, dates
00:27:29 <Ampera> cardamom
00:27:30 <Ampera> cookies
00:27:47 <Ampera> actually I've never had dates
00:27:54 <Ampera> I've only ever had prunes, which I confused them with for a moment
00:28:28 <Ysjoelfir> tasts like.... very mild but also very sweet mush :D not sugar-sweet, but... more like a bakery type of sweet, like a sweet dough
00:28:52 <Ampera> so our supermarket bread :P
00:29:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P speaking of supermarkets, I just wanted to prepare an order for food. put everything into the shopping cart and noticed... the next free delivery slot for REWE delivery is.. never.
00:29:38 <Ysjoelfir> you can look 3 weeks into the future - no free slot
00:29:50 <Ampera> rip
00:29:58 <Ampera> if I lived nearby I'd shop food for you
00:30:56 <Ysjoelfir> aww :) that would be so nice! I just can't endure this shit anymore... I recently started to get panic attacks when I had to stand in line in a crowded shop with a mask on breathing in warm, moist air :X
00:40:52 <Ampera> time for my horoscope meeting :/
00:41:22 <Ampera> my company forces all new hires to take a personality test and now I get to sit in a 2 hour meeting discussing which "style" I fall under
00:41:28 <Ampera> which is roughly analogous to what sign I was born under :/
00:41:37 <Ysjoelfir> lol?
00:42:02 <Ampera> the results printout for the test was just insulting
00:43:47 <Ampera> My favourite thing they are TELLING me is and I quite, "You also tend to be a bit uncomfortable around people who show a lot of emotion, since intense feelings often carry a level of unpredictability that can be unsettling for you"
00:43:59 <Ampera> This from an /automated/ printout
00:44:08 <Ampera> meaning someone's writing this shit and blindly attributing it to people
00:44:15 <Ampera> *quite -> quote
00:44:21 <Ysjoelfir> oh god
00:44:51 <Ampera> "On the rare occasions that coworkers see your emotions, you may feel a sense of vulnerability"
00:45:12 <Ampera> Yes I'm a brick who will shit my pants if someone sees me have an emotion
00:45:32 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like me
00:45:46 <Ampera> "Because you value reasoning and analysis, you're unlikely to accept new ideas or plans at face value"
00:45:53 <Ampera> makes me sound like an asshole
00:46:30 <Ampera> "Despite your mostly mild appearance, you may get frustrated when you think logic and facts are being ignored"
00:46:41 <Ampera> I think that's the most accurate statement they made.
00:47:06 <Ysjoelfir> I don't realy see the benefit of those... "tests" yet.
00:48:13 <Ampera> I asked my manager what that is.
00:48:18 <Ampera> In essence, there is none
00:48:35 <Ampera> and in my own words, I'd say someone pawned it off to corporate and they got suckered in to buying this shit
00:48:46 <K> mostly mild appearance?
00:48:54 <Ampera> I have no idea what the hell that means
00:48:55 <K> are they saying you look like a wuss?
00:49:00 <Ampera> as opposed to looking like John fucking Brown?
00:49:12 <K> grow a beard or somth
00:49:49 <Ampera> this is already off to a shit start
00:50:46 <Ampera> Apparently they're splitting us up into separate meetings
00:51:47 <Ampera> oh boy, the president of the division is joining
00:54:48 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a lot of fun
00:55:12 <Ampera> today QA stands for quite annoyed
00:59:12 <Nevoness> @Ampera: Yeah the Gateron greens are kindof like MX Greens, similar force required and similar click/tactility.
00:59:20 <Nevoness> But they are much smoother than Cherry switches
00:59:29 <Nevoness> And sound nicer imho
01:01:59 <Nevoness> Those tests sounds incredibly useless and inaccurate
01:05:04 <Ysjoelfir> its a pain speaking and writing english on a regular basis.... I'm still shopping for groceries (found a new shot that MIGHT deliver, yay!) and found a can of "Brathering". I'm sure Nevoness knows exactly what happened to me xD
01:07:34 <Nevoness> I literally tried to pronounce "Brathering" in english the first time i read over it lol.
01:08:06 <Ysjoelfir> exactly xD
01:08:14 <Nevoness> Makes it sound kinda funny
01:08:18 <Ysjoelfir> yep
01:08:49 <Nevoness> Well i usually tend to write much more in english than in german...
01:08:54 <Ysjoelfir> I scrolled through the list, finding cans of beans, tomatoes, and brathering. my mind was like "Brathering? dafak is that? have to google that one. *starts typing* ....oh."
01:09:10 <Nevoness> Kinda unhandy when talking, since i seem to have a larger vocabulary in english than in german
01:09:35 <Ysjoelfir> my spouse is american, so... :P
01:09:52 <Nevoness> Also, i often dont know the german equivalent of words (especially when talking about tech, etc) which doesnt help.
01:10:01 <Nevoness> Same, actually.
01:10:10 <Ysjoelfir> heh^^
01:10:43 <Nevoness> I actually never had brathering
01:11:05 <Nevoness> I guess its more common in germany than in austria :P
01:11:15 <Ysjoelfir> I had it several times, as my family originates from Hamburg, so fish in all kinds of dishes is pretty common :D
01:11:26 <Nevoness> Nice
01:12:15 <Ysjoelfir> its pretty interesting, my grandmy was born in hamburg, moved down to velbert (near düsseldorf), where most of my family lives now, and I am now in frankfurt. But the plan is to go "back up" a bit.. xD
01:13:28 * Nevoness rambles about VPN's and certificates.. Laptops that cant be rolled out without the user (Would miss their VPN certificates if they dont log in while the laptop is still connected to our LAN, etc)
01:13:55 <Ysjoelfir> I'm happy that I am out of the IT business.
01:14:02 <Ysjoelfir> especially nowadays
01:14:06 <Nevoness> Tbh my dream job was IT
01:14:20 <Nevoness> Been working with PC's ever since i turned -3-
01:14:40 <Nevoness> For whatever reason my dad thought it was a good idea to start -early-
01:15:19 <Nevoness> I guess it paid off in the end. lol. - Tho working for the govt really isnt all that fun sometimes.
01:15:21 <Ysjoelfir> mine was... at first waste pickup truck driver guy, then I wanted to be a judge. then I wanted to do Electronics, but ended up with a strange mix of IT and electronics instead. now I'm an electronics engineer and will probably go to something different again because corona
01:15:49 <Nevoness> Corona treats me well tbh
01:16:07 <Nevoness> most of the time we have much more work than usual. No cut pay.
01:16:16 <Nevoness> We got a 900€ bonus from work instead
01:16:17 <Nevoness> lol
01:16:32 <Nevoness> (The bonus wasnt even taxed!)
01:16:57 <Nevoness> Now if only the pay wouldnt suck ass.
01:17:04 <Ysjoelfir> nice :D I got kicked out in march but remain working until 30th of november
01:17:12 <Nevoness> Wot
01:18:08 <Ysjoelfir> jep
01:18:13 <Nevoness> Only thing that really bothers me is that i wont really learn anything new here.
01:18:14 <Nevoness> At all
01:18:22 <Nevoness> Since im not even allowed to touch the servers.
01:18:34 <Ysjoelfir> I applied for a job at german government, but I don't think I realy want to learn there...
01:18:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol?
01:18:40 <Ysjoelfir> erm
01:18:42 <Ysjoelfir> want to work i mean
01:18:51 <Ysjoelfir> reading and writing at the same time, you know.. :D
01:18:58 <Nevoness> I had my apprenticeship here
01:19:01 <Nevoness> sooo
01:19:31 <Nevoness> Stop mixing my words into yours xD
01:19:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^ I do my very best
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01:21:05 <Nevoness> its kind of annoying that we only get to roll out desktops&laptops, basic software/hardware troubleshooting, printer maintenance and a tiny bit of network maintenance.
01:21:31 <Nevoness> During my entire 4 years of being an apprentice here, i learned next to nothing at all.
01:22:12 <Ysjoelfir> sounds not very interesting
01:22:17 <Nevoness> It isnt.
01:22:35 <Nevoness> Its the same stuff over and over again
01:23:04 <Nevoness> Tho im able to work on private project during work hours, so i guess that is a +
01:23:12 <Ysjoelfir> well. but: pretty stable work environment I assume
01:23:13 <Nevoness> projects*
01:23:19 <Nevoness> Yeah.
01:23:26 <Nevoness> And also one awesome coworker
01:23:34 <Ysjoelfir> at least one :P
01:23:37 <Nevoness> since were only 2 in IT
01:23:41 <Ysjoelfir> well, ok
01:23:52 <Nevoness> and have our own offices and all, seperate from everyone else
01:24:39 <Ysjoelfir> GRA! I just finished putting stuff in my shopping card at the amazon prinemow thing. click on delivery - there are no open delivery slots available! Thanks for telling me before I waste 45 minutes in clicking through your horrible interface, putting stuff in the basket!
01:24:49 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds indeed pretty nice
01:25:10 <Ysjoelfir> at my soon to be ex employer we have one big room with 25 engineers in it. annoying as hell
01:25:20 <Nevoness> wait, amazon doesnt deliver to you?
01:25:27 <Nevoness> or at least not currently
01:25:46 <Ysjoelfir> prime now is something different I discovered an hour ago
01:25:59 <Ysjoelfir> basically amazon pantry, just... different
01:26:01 <Nevoness> Ew, sounds like A1 Telekom here. One huge office with 80+ people in it
01:26:08 <Nevoness> also no fixed desk/workstation
01:26:23 <Ysjoelfir> we have at least fixed desks
01:28:06 <Nevoness> I have my private laptop sitting ontop of the work pc here
01:28:23 <Nevoness> In a dock, connected to a KVM
01:28:36 <Nevoness> since we often have a LOT of idle time.
01:29:04 <Nevoness> https://i.postimg.cc/c47vJ6P9/IMG-20201029-152701.jpg
01:29:16 <Nevoness> My little, currently quite full office
01:29:17 <Nevoness> :P
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01:35:51 <Ysjoelfir> thats nice :D I would love to have that
01:36:03 <Nevoness> Yeah.
01:36:12 <Nevoness> And the door to the left connects my office to my coworkers
01:36:31 <Nevoness> Hes thankfully just as crazy and stupid as i am ;P
01:36:59 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D even better
01:55:05 <T3sl4> hi
01:55:13 <Nevoness> Hey
01:57:42 <T3sl4> a new chatter has arrived!
01:58:23 <Ysjoelfir> yes! I already prepared the handcuffs, T3sl4, he won't flee!
01:58:36 <Nevoness> o.o
01:58:52 <T3sl4> exquisite
01:59:30 <Ysjoelfir> yes, Nevoness. You are ours now.
01:59:37 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4
01:59:41 <Nevoness> Dammit
02:00:10 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
02:04:24 <K> lets hope this one does not run away like the others
02:04:38 <Nevoness> Im not really planning to :P
02:04:55 <Nevoness> I just sometimes end up lurking a lot when i dont know what to talk about
02:05:36 <K> i told you - do the chainlink and heater block thing, but no - noone listens :|
02:05:58 <Ysjoelfir> thats ok. I'm most of the time just idling as well, or better, my bouncer is.
02:06:03 <Nevoness> Chainlink and heater block?
02:06:19 <Nevoness> Hrm... i should setup my own bouncer on my vps
02:06:25 <Ysjoelfir> K you mean with that lemon guy? meh, yeah, you were right. even throwing expensive power analyzers onto him to knock him out didn't work
02:06:56 <K> yeah :/
02:10:45 <electrohead> Nevoness: znc is amazing, you've used that, yes?
02:11:20 <electrohead> and I like your office area :P
02:11:28 <Nevoness> Yup ive set it up quite a while ago on a different server.
02:11:44 <Nevoness> Well thanks.
02:12:00 <Nevoness> Its a bit of a mess right now, as were rolling out the homeoffice laptops a third time.
02:12:05 <Nevoness> At least they are new machines.
02:12:16 <Nevoness> Lenovo ThinkPad X390 Yoga's
02:12:43 <Nevoness> My office is also partly a storage room
02:14:23 <electrohead> I still use my Thinkpad T60 :D
02:14:24 * Ysjoelfir is happy to be able to ssh + RDP to his PC at work
02:14:40 <Ysjoelfir> I still use my I never have owned a work notebook
02:14:46 <Nevoness> I have a T43 at home in my "ThinkStack"
02:15:06 <Nevoness> which is a nice name for a tower of thinkpads i kindof collect at this point
02:15:10 <electrohead> lol
02:15:20 <electrohead> I have a decent collection of computers as well >.<
02:15:31 <Nevoness> I just dont really have space for them
02:15:35 <Nevoness> So they are in my closet
02:15:37 <Nevoness> lol.
02:16:03 <Nevoness> Sometimes i do just build computers out of stuff i have laying around for the fun of it
02:16:05 <Ysjoelfir> I have a lab room in our apartment I don't realy want to call lab at the moment, but more like... storage mess room
02:17:09 <Nevoness> I guess you could call my entire apartment a "lab room" then
02:17:15 <electrohead> ^
02:17:17 <electrohead> same, heh
02:19:39 * electrohead throws esp8266's and esp32's at Nevoness
02:19:46 <Nevoness> Ack!
02:19:56 <Nevoness> I already have 6 ESP's sitting in a drawer
02:20:01 <Nevoness> (32's that is)
02:20:09 <electrohead> :D
02:20:13 <Nevoness> I just dont have time to do something with them
02:20:18 <electrohead> yeah, definitely you fit in around here in this channel
02:20:21 <Nevoness> or the knowledge in proper programming
02:20:41 <Nevoness> Currently working on making tools to take apart bmw e39 tachometers.
02:20:58 <Nevoness> They need some special pliers to take the needles off of the motors.
02:20:58 <electrohead> ooo, car hacking
02:21:34 <electrohead> once my engine is repaired and I get everything else fixed up, I'm going to start turning my car into a mobile ham/hacking rig
02:21:50 <Nevoness> Well, for a while i used the motherboard of an older Acer Aspire (Some later gen intel pentium machine, those z8350's) as my headunit
02:21:58 <Nevoness> With control of the car's IBUS
02:22:11 <Nevoness> currently i have a proper android headunit that i use to control the IBUS
02:22:27 <Nevoness> Before the laptop i used a raspberry pi as my headunit, running kodi
02:22:59 <electrohead> cobb access port runs on my car's ECU, so once I get far enough, I'm going to use a raspberry pi 4 as the central computer, per say, to control everything
02:23:17 <Nevoness> Well the IBUS does pretty much everything i want.
02:23:22 <electrohead> stereo/head unit will be some sort of rooted/hacked android jobbie, then the rasp.pi to interface
02:23:31 <Nevoness> Communication with almost all control units in the car, and control of them, etc
02:23:32 <electrohead> is IBUS similar to CAN bus?
02:23:40 <Nevoness> Well its a side bus of CAN bus
02:23:53 <Nevoness> Its specific to BMW's from 1996-2006
02:24:14 <Nevoness> Works best in BMW E38,E39,E46 and E56's
02:24:55 <Nevoness> I can control every single light bulb with the IBUS
02:24:56 <Nevoness> :P
02:25:25 <electrohead> oh neat
02:25:28 <electrohead> :D
02:25:42 <electrohead> I still need to assemble the one CAN tool I have
02:25:44 <Nevoness> or control the AC, the stock radio(if i still had it), my electric seats, mirrors, dashboard, etc.
02:25:47 <electrohead> err, populate the PCB
02:25:49 * electrohead looks
02:26:21 <Nevoness> Tbh i kinda want to get back to hacking the IBUS a bit more. It can do crazy things in my car
02:26:47 <Ysjoelfir> I have delayed my project involving ESPs which mr. head wanted to help me with
02:26:48 <Nevoness> The app that i currently use (called IBUS-App) has most features, but i kindof want more
02:27:15 <electrohead> http://goodfet.sourceforge.net/hardware/goodthopter12/
02:27:17 <electrohead> that's it
02:27:25 <electrohead> I have all the parts, just need to finish it now, heh
02:27:36 <Nevoness> I used an ESP32 to control a generator/solar system at a friends garden
02:27:38 <electrohead> like the rest of us in here, "so many projects, not enough time"
02:27:44 <Nevoness> also his waterpumps etc
02:28:06 <electrohead> do you put your ESP's on a segregated wireless network?
02:28:32 <electrohead> oh shit, it's 1130, I need to head out, my dad needs me
02:28:36 <electrohead> be back then ~
02:29:27 <Nevoness> I dont have one running atm, except for 2 ESP8266's that are in my SonOFF(flashed with Tasmota ofc) switches for my lights at home (And they are just connected to my main 2.4GHz wifi.)
02:29:30 <Nevoness> See ya
02:31:03 <Nevoness> Hrm, i still have a genuine FTDI FT232RL at home.. Used the other one to replace a janky chinese knockoff in my OBD K/DCAN cable
02:31:42 <Nevoness> well, ill drive home now. Ill hop back online a little later.
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02:52:11 <Ampera> haha, I just got Brathering
02:52:31 <Ampera> I had to look at it for a couple moments until I did
02:53:37 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
02:55:44 <K> wot
02:56:42 <rust_collector> mornings
02:56:59 <Ysjoelfir> Brat(en) = to fry. HEring = some kind of fish. If you write a lot of english the th part of the word seems like a.. well, english th to you, as thats a very uncommon letter combination in german. so you read it with an english pronounciation, which is.... very weird :P
02:57:04 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr rust
02:57:37 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I understand both German and English to some degree, so I was able to figure it out myself
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03:02:44 <electrohead> back for a bit
03:02:52 <T3sl4> does that mean when we grill bratwurst, we're doing it wrong? :P
03:03:36 * Ampera smacks T3sl4 with a can of herrings
03:03:53 * T3sl4 paints it red
03:04:02 * Ampera paints T3sl4 pink
03:06:00 * electrohead paints everything black
03:10:53 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, that was an explaination for K :)
03:11:18 <Ampera> oh
03:11:32 * Ampera sneezes at K
03:11:37 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 - more or less :P its actually made to be fried, though most people also grill it. but there IS a dedicated "Grillwurst", which is... basically just a Bratwurst :)
03:12:12 <T3sl4> heh
03:13:00 <K> ah.
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03:15:55 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, I got a letter from sweden, claiming toll for our vacation in norway, written in perfect german :D
03:16:13 <rust_collector> nice
03:16:25 <rust_collector> that means trouble
03:17:12 <K> should Ysjoelfir move?
03:17:21 <Ysjoelfir> nah. just 13.xx€
03:17:26 <rust_collector> Now, you did stay in the less toll-infested area.... how bad was it?
03:17:35 <rust_collector> ok
03:17:54 <Ysjoelfir> which was.... basically just for getting out of kristiansand and going from langesund to your place and back^^
03:18:14 <Ysjoelfir> I don't want to immagine driving on the big roads from kristiansand to the nordkap :P that must cost a fortune
03:18:52 <rust_collector> I do not think it is all that bad, as long as you avoid shit town. that is probably as much as the rest of the way
03:19:13 <Ysjoelfir> I think I know what you mean with shittown^^
03:19:40 <rust_collector> yes, that place they should have built a wall around
03:20:20 <rust_collector> and filled with diesel, and lit it up
03:21:05 <Ysjoelfir> I would prefer petroleum, that burns more clean
03:22:10 <rust_collector> meh, it will be full of crap anyway
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03:41:41 <rust_collector> and I finally ordered the hopefully correct headlights, lol
03:46:48 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj4AOA6bWT0
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03:52:44 <Ysjoelfir> did you have wrong ones?^^
03:53:18 <Ysjoelfir> I thought norsk light regulations are more like.... "it needs to produce light. any kind of light. a bit more than a candle, if possible"?
03:53:21 <rust_collector> I ordered a set, and got them...for a car one generation newer than mine
03:53:53 <rust_collector> they have to be able to point the candle in the right direction
03:54:24 <Ysjoelfir> oh. ok. thats bad then
03:55:01 <rust_collector> right now, I just unclipped the height adjusting motors, and dropped them down a lot. the adjusters inside the light is... not working
03:55:19 <Ysjoelfir> that would be a very bad no-no in germanistan :P
03:55:34 <Ysjoelfir> as is.. basically everything that is not leaving the car as it came from the factors
03:55:36 <Ysjoelfir> *factory
03:55:51 <rust_collector> sure, but it beats blinding everyone on my way to work
03:56:30 <Ysjoelfir> that otoh is something basically everyone with those stupid xenon lights does
03:56:35 <rust_collector> just the detail about it being due for a test...2 months ago...
03:57:16 <rust_collector> well, I think they could aim those down half a degree, and it would probably be sort of ok
03:57:21 * Ampera sneezes
03:57:30 <rust_collector> AMPERA!!!!
03:57:43 <Ysjoelfir> I agree
03:57:49 * Ampera gives rust_collector a gift basket with some cookies, muffins, and a dose of infectious COVID
03:58:17 <rust_collector> thanks! it is the nicest thing anyone have given me is at least a couple weeks
03:58:37 <Ampera> my employer gave me a delicious headache
03:58:58 <Ampera> I swear I'm gonna be pissed all day because of this
03:59:04 <rust_collector> that is their job
03:59:31 <Ysjoelfir> are you done with your horrorscope?
03:59:40 <Ampera> haha, horrorscope
03:59:43 <Ampera> feels like horror
03:59:45 <Ampera> yeah I am
04:00:00 <Ysjoelfir> thats why I wrote it like that ;)
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04:01:05 <rust_collector> are you aligning the stars and stuff?
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04:02:21 <Ampera> I'm aligning a gun to my head
04:02:56 <Ampera> I'm comforting myself with some delicious egg noodle stroganov
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04:02:59 <rust_collector> ok, do you need a scope for that? It seems doable with the regular sights?
04:03:13 <rust_collector> or without
04:03:17 <Ampera> it blows my mind people who try to commit suicide with a gun and /miss/
04:03:26 <Ampera> unfortunately for them, it didn't blow theirs
04:03:38 <Ampera> especially the poor fucks who end up blowing their faces off trying
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04:05:32 <Nevoness> welp time to clean my desk and setup znc
04:06:10 <rust_collector> ok, I am going to work. have fun
04:07:02 <Ampera> Nevoness, good choice
04:07:49 <Nevoness> I'm slowly trying to keep cleaning off my desk when I'm done working. or at least when I want to start something new
04:07:57 <Nevoness> before it just accumulated
04:09:13 <Ampera> Nevoness yeah I don't do that
04:09:30 <Ampera> when I get aforementioned house I intend to keep better tidy of it, but right now there's so little space I just lost the ability to give a fuck
04:13:12 <Nevoness> https://i.postimg.cc/vTP4v0BD/IMG-20201029-181241.jpg
04:13:35 <Nevoness> considering that this is my only desk in the apartment... it clutters quickly
04:13:44 <Nevoness> tho it's quite nice when clean
04:13:49 <Ampera> that's a pretty puny monitor setup there
04:14:05 <Nevoness> :(
04:14:35 <Ampera> Nevoness, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446784883633684491/767735317209284618/20201019_085457.jpg
04:14:52 <Nevoness> nice
04:15:02 <Nevoness> but all of them are different
04:15:06 <Nevoness> that would drive me half crazy
04:15:08 <Nevoness> lol
04:15:33 <Ampera> All of them have different manufacturers, panel tech, resolutions, and the center one is 144hz the rest are 60
04:15:48 <Ampera> desktop resolution is 8480x1080
04:16:05 <Nevoness> mine are all the same. 24", 1080p, 77hz
04:16:12 <Ampera> 77hz?
04:16:13 <Nevoness> 5760x1080
04:16:15 <Nevoness> yeah
04:16:16 <Ampera> that's an odd rate
04:16:28 <Nevoness> maximum overclock that samsung allows lol.
04:16:32 <Nevoness> normally it would be 60
04:17:39 <Ampera> I have, left to right, Samsung TN+FL 1440x900 TV, DELL TN+FL 1280x1024, Samsung 49" Curved 3840x1080 144hz VA+LED, ASUS 1920x1080 IPS+LED
04:17:53 <Ampera> Two are HDMI, one is DVI, one is DP
04:18:04 <Nevoness> but do you have one of these
04:18:05 <Nevoness> https://postimg.cc/gallery/8frHV29
04:18:26 <Ampera> SDR?
04:18:28 <Nevoness> 1080p @49" sounds kinda painful
04:18:42 <Ampera> good, because it's not 1080p
04:18:44 <Ampera> it's 2x1080p
04:19:03 <Nevoness> nah. it's a Logitech G933 receiver/sender.
04:19:07 <Ampera> ew
04:19:09 <Nevoness> modified it to have better range.
04:19:12 <Ampera> no and I'm glad because I don't
04:19:20 <Ampera> fuck logitech, I hate them with a murderous passion
04:19:34 <Ampera> I am a victim of the G930
04:19:36 <Nevoness> it's neat to have sometimes. Got it for really cheap a couple years ago.
04:19:50 <Nevoness> I had the G32 lol wired version of the 930
04:19:56 <Ampera> I had two G930's, they are absolutely fucking trash
04:20:07 <Ampera> they sound great, but they BEEP and TURN OFF THEN BACK ON EVERY FIVE MINUTES
04:20:26 <Ampera> and I swear to fuck are made out of bakelite because both of mine crumbled to bits within very little time
04:20:27 <Nevoness> the G32/930s were trash yeah (to me even sound wise), but the 933 improved a lot
04:20:52 <Ampera> For the longest time it was the only means I had to listen to computer audio and I am not kidding when I say it actually made me want to kill myself
04:20:57 <Nevoness> besides a broken hinge that was fixed with some glue and no leather left my nearly 10 year d G32's still hold up
04:21:11 <Nevoness> old*
04:21:18 <Ampera> I've been a firm Sennheiser fan ever since
04:21:34 <Nevoness> I've got some Sony MDR-XB700's
04:21:40 <Nevoness> and a couple other headphones.
04:21:44 <Ampera> I had one of their cheap hundred dollar gaming headsets, and despite not sucking, the ability to actually plug it into something that doesn't have USB is awesome
04:21:58 <Nevoness> lol.
04:22:04 <Ampera> I'm never buying a USB based pair of headphones ever, idc
04:22:16 <Nevoness> I wouldn't either, after the G32
04:22:19 <Ampera> afterwards I had the second version of the momentum bluetooth headphones which are really nice, but had a few quirks I didn't like
04:22:46 <Ampera> namely Linux having a god awful implementation of bluetooth audio, and them being a bit uncomfortable
04:23:03 <Ampera> namely because the pads didn't lock position on the headband, so they'd just keep sliding down and I'd have to re-tighten
04:23:14 <Nevoness> that sounds annoying
04:23:33 <Ampera> Yeah, but they're still nice bluetooth headphones, and are currently on my DAW as they can also operate as passives
04:23:37 <Ampera> so I still use them whenever I play guitar
04:23:45 <Ampera> My current headphones are these https://en-us.sennheiser.com/wireless-headphones-home-audio-rs-175 and I absolutely love them
04:23:48 <Ampera> seriously, wireless done right
04:24:15 <Nevoness> those look quite nice.
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04:26:29 <Nevoness_> on my desktop now, while i work on znc
04:27:57 <Nevoness_> sadly besides the shitty range my 933's had another annoying issue
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04:28:13 <Nevoness_> The powerswitch that made only one side of the headphones work
04:28:49 <Nevoness_> https://www.reddit.com/r/LogitechG/comments/7t0m3g/g933_sound_unbalanced_power_button_fixes/
04:34:59 <Nevoness_> Damn it.. https://i.postimg.cc/LX8gwJWJ/image.png
04:35:16 <Nevoness_> ./boot is full apparently
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04:41:06 <Ampera> Nevoness_, sorry for the late response, but yeah they are really nice
04:41:15 <Ampera> they do everything right pretty much
04:41:30 <Ampera> Rechargable AAA's that take no screws to swap, and charge on the dock inside the headphones
04:41:44 <Ampera> Excellent sound quality, accepts TOSLINK so it's digital all the way to the headphones
04:41:55 <Nevoness_> I usually dont use wireless headphones in general, soo...
04:42:01 <Ampera> and they sound the best of any headphones I've ever used, which is the important bit
04:42:18 <Ampera> really flat response high and low, but with maybe just a big of perfect bias towards the lows
04:42:23 <Ampera> or so I hear
04:42:24 <Nevoness_> Thats awesome
04:42:31 <Ampera> I don't have the numbers so maybe I'm full of shit
04:42:57 <Ampera> oh and the connection is solid and reliable. The range isn't stellar, that's what was nice about the G930, the range was impressive
04:43:10 <Nevoness_> Impressive?
04:43:11 <Nevoness_> o.o
04:43:14 <Ampera> but I use it exclusively at my desk 2 feet from the base station
04:43:28 <Ampera> oh yeah, I have a 3 story home and I could get a solid connection almost to the third floor with the station on the first
04:43:28 <Nevoness_> I had the opposite experience with mine
04:43:42 <Ampera> and we have a house that is REALLY adverse to RF, hardwood walls and floors proper
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04:43:53 <Nevoness_> I cant even go further than one room away. Tho that might be because my walls are wireless killers.
04:43:59 <Ampera> are they stone?
04:44:09 <Nevoness_> Steel&Concrete
04:44:13 <Ampera> yeah that'll do it
04:44:22 <Ampera> mine are just wood
04:44:28 <Nevoness_> My wifi doesnt manage decent signal through a single wall lol
04:44:44 <Ampera> only annoying thing is I get shit cell signal, so tmo gave me a nanocell
04:45:00 <Nevoness_> I have surprisingly good signal
04:45:10 <Nevoness_> Tho the furter you go away from the window the worse it gets
04:45:26 <Ampera> let me show you a speedtest I took from my bathroom before the nanocell
04:45:43 <Nevoness_> hrm. im still running ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS on my server lol
04:45:47 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/747282249770074122/Screenshot_20200823-223239_Speedtest.jpg
04:45:49 <Ampera> ew, ubuntu
04:45:50 <Nevoness_> I feel like i should upgrade it at some point
04:45:53 <Ampera> ucuntu
04:46:06 <Nevoness_> I liked the old ubuntu server releases.
04:46:13 <Nevoness_> I hate it as a desktop OS
04:46:17 <Ampera> I used ubuntu server a couple times and it was annoying as all heck
04:46:22 <Nevoness_> I run arch on my systems
04:46:25 <Ampera> I don't really like linux for servers much
04:46:29 <Ampera> NO YOU WOKE HIM UP
04:46:30 <Nevoness_> o.o
04:46:33 <Ampera> YOU DISTURBED THE GIANT!
04:46:36 <Nevoness_> lol
04:46:36 <Ampera> HE'LL KILL US ALL
04:46:46 <Ampera> but yeah I run archlinux on my desktops
04:46:53 <Ampera> but I use FreeBSD on my servers
04:47:03 <Nevoness_> BSD is something i never got the hang of
04:47:17 <Nevoness_> or wanted to use even
04:47:18 <Ampera> It can vary just like Linux can, NetBSD and FreeBSD are very different systems
04:47:30 <Ampera> FreeBSD is quite similar to archlinux in a lot of ways
04:48:00 <Ampera> I actually really really like its release policy
04:48:16 <Ampera> base system with consistent stable releases, but with rolling packages
04:48:27 <Ampera> I think it combines the best of archlinux with the best of debian
04:48:48 <arch> i run Nevoness on my systems
04:48:59 <Ampera> oh no
04:49:03 <Ampera> he's here....
04:49:04 <Nevoness_> Darnit
04:49:11 <Nevoness_> you forgot the _
04:49:13 <Nevoness_> xD
04:50:20 <Nevoness_> I still remember when i tried to use debian stable on my system. but couldnt because it didnt have a new enough package of the nvidia driver for my back then 6 month old GTX960
04:50:21 <Nevoness_> lol
04:50:51 * electrohead installs pfsense on all of Nevoness_'s computers
04:51:40 <Nevoness_> Ack
04:52:02 <Ampera> pfsense is ass
04:52:04 <Ampera> I use it, but it's ass
04:52:05 * Nevoness_ throws in another ssd with Win/Arch on it
04:52:30 <Ampera> the only reason why pfsense is on my router is because I'm too stupid for OpenBSD
04:53:17 <Nevoness_> I updated my VPS and now dns stopped working.
04:53:18 <Nevoness_> Great
05:00:20 <Nevoness_> ugh. i hate messing with netplan
05:00:40 <Ampera> Nevoness_, netplan?
05:00:55 <Nevoness_> Debian's networkmanager
05:01:14 <Ampera> oh
05:01:31 <Ampera> NetworkManager in general is annoying
05:01:47 <Nevoness_> it uses yaml to configure it, and if you have a single damn space wrong or a tab anywhere it just doesnt work
05:01:55 <Ampera> I like netctl if I need profiles for something, other than that the sort of null config setup archlinux has is nice
05:02:02 <Ampera> ah, YAML
05:02:08 <Ampera> ya maw ain't a lesbian
05:02:18 <Nevoness_> lol
05:03:34 <Nevoness_> Havent heard that one before
05:03:41 <Ampera> because I made it up on the spot
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05:03:49 <Ampera> speaking of which
05:03:56 <Ampera> Hi ThunderSqueak, how are you doing?
05:05:45 <Ampera> Nevoness_, anyways, I hate anything that doesn't take a C approach to whitespace
05:05:49 <ThunderSqueak> Hello there, doing ok... just at work
05:05:51 <Ampera> python in particular
05:05:57 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, how's that going?
05:06:06 <Nevoness_> I actually quite like python
05:06:06 <Nevoness_> lol
05:06:13 <ThunderSqueak> finally got them to let me work from home for a stupid phone helpdesk based job that I should have never been required to go to the office for in the first place
05:06:15 <Ampera> I just had a 2 hour meeting/training session on DiSC, a corporate personality test
05:06:26 <Ampera> felt like someone was telling me about my horoscope
05:06:35 <Ampera> That's good
05:06:48 <Nevoness_> Nice.
05:06:49 <ThunderSqueak> so they read you a whole bunch of vague random things that everyone likes to apply to themselves ?
05:06:59 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, pretty much
05:07:01 <Ampera> based off a 50
05:07:01 <ThunderSqueak> lol
05:07:11 <Ampera> er, 50-odd strongly/disagree/agree test
05:07:13 <ThunderSqueak> people are so weird
05:07:15 <Nevoness_> Im just waiting until the lock down our court building again and we go from 200+ employees in the building to under 10
05:07:23 <Nevoness_> they*
05:07:29 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, what's obnoxious about it is that they don't suggest they TELL you your failings
05:07:35 <Ampera> and how YOU are flawed as an individual
05:07:39 <Ampera> and what you can do to be better
05:07:43 <ThunderSqueak> Anchorage put out a health advisory yesterday because we had a HUGE spike, and our mayor resigned
05:07:49 <ThunderSqueak> so yeah, that is a thing here
05:07:54 <Ampera> why did he resign?
05:08:17 <ThunderSqueak> because he texted a dick pic to someone 10 years ago and someone else found out ?
05:08:22 <Ampera> ah
05:08:24 <Ampera> so not COVID related
05:08:26 <Nevoness_> lol...
05:08:36 <ThunderSqueak> nope, and then he left the local gov high and dry
05:08:52 <ThunderSqueak> it is ok, he was ignoring covid anyway
05:09:16 <ThunderSqueak> kept trying to tell people to go out and be "normal" because of the "economy"
05:09:38 <Ampera> Besides Cuomo making some nice room in the old folks' homes, I think NY did COVID pretty well
05:09:43 <Ampera> we had a good balance between restriction and freedom
05:09:48 <Ampera> no rules too harshly applied
05:10:02 <ThunderSqueak> Anchorage is a lot worse off than is being reported
05:10:19 <Ampera> I find that weird, as you people aren't exactly a hub for much besides shipping, are you?
05:10:20 <ThunderSqueak> especially with our extremely high homeless population....
05:10:40 <ThunderSqueak> the IHS reports that we have as many natives sick in just this city as the entire state of north dakota
05:10:48 <Lord_of_nothing_> hey ladys
05:11:04 <Ampera> well North Dakota is literally the middle of nowhere, so
05:11:16 <ThunderSqueak> ND has one of the highest infections in the country
05:11:19 <ThunderSqueak> so does SD
05:11:28 <ThunderSqueak> SD is 40% or so positive right now
05:11:34 <Ampera> That is really strange
05:11:47 <Ampera> as their populations are largely rural as far as I knew
05:11:50 <Lord_of_nothing_> its just staged
05:12:02 <ThunderSqueak> no it isnt, they are a red anti mask state whose governer endorsed sturgis and the state fair and tried to keep tourism going
05:12:14 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
05:12:23 <ThunderSqueak> <- has a lot of very very sick family there now
05:12:28 <Lord_of_nothing_> its just a plot
05:12:38 <Lord_of_nothing_> the grow it in fort detric
05:12:42 <ThunderSqueak> I dont expect 2 of them to survive tbh
05:12:51 <Ampera> That sucks.
05:13:13 <Nevoness_> Damn.. Thats really worrysome
05:13:18 <Lord_of_nothing_> and the distributed turing the military games in china
05:13:29 <Ampera> My grandfather is recently immunocompromised, so he's right in the thick of it
05:13:47 <Lord_of_nothing_> 11/9 show that the us gov not care about collateral damage
05:13:49 <ThunderSqueak> one needs a lung transplant, the other, my father has a leaking heart and congestive heart failure and the Dr says he cannot survive another open heart surgery
05:14:03 <ThunderSqueak> my wife lost her cousin a month ago to covid
05:14:08 <ThunderSqueak> he was only 27
05:14:22 <ThunderSqueak> healthy... then dead
05:14:23 <Lord_of_nothing_> when he got his last checkup?
05:14:23 <ThunderSqueak> :/
05:14:33 <ThunderSqueak> he picked it up at ANMC :(
05:14:36 <Ampera> I'm thankful to have not lost anyone personally to COVID yet.
05:14:37 <T3sl4> ThunderSqueak! *huggles*
05:14:43 <ThunderSqueak> he went in for a routine checkup and cought it
05:14:59 <Ampera> likely because it's somewhat respectably well contained in the northeast
05:15:05 <Lord_of_nothing_> well how did you know that he not die from the "medicine" ?
05:15:07 <Nevoness_> Ampera: Same thankfully. Besides you here i actually dont know anyone who did loose someone to covid :/
05:15:09 <ThunderSqueak> ANMC = Anchorage Native Medical Center
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05:15:41 <ThunderSqueak> oh just go fuck off Lord_of_nothing_
05:15:49 <Lord_of_nothing_> no thanks
05:16:01 <Lord_of_nothing_> many us doctor killed patient on purpose!
05:16:12 <Ampera> It's good we're finally starting to get medicines to deal with some of it. Hopefully the vaccines prove effective.
05:16:16 <ThunderSqueak> I know, I am trans and native
05:16:51 <ThunderSqueak> but, yeah, he died of accute respretory failure...
05:16:57 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing_, just to say, while I won't kick/ban you, there's not a whole lot I can do to keep ThunderSqueak from doing the same, so you may want to ease off the ass
05:17:21 <Lord_of_nothing_> for what telling the truth?
05:17:29 Mode: (by ThunderSqueak) +b *!*@317f3fc4.fonira.net
05:17:29 Kick: Lord_of_nothing_ was kicked by ThunderSqueak (ThunderSqueak)
05:17:32 <ThunderSqueak> meh
05:17:50 <ThunderSqueak> I will remove it in a few
05:18:00 <Ampera> Thanks, saves me from doing so.
05:18:26 <Nevoness_> I kinda feel surrounded by conspiracy theorists at times x.x
05:18:32 Mode: (by ThunderSqueak) -b *!*@317f3fc4.fonira.net
05:18:36 <Ampera> I just laugh and move on
05:18:41 <ThunderSqueak> ok removed the ban for now
05:18:42 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, I didn't say you had to do it right away :P
05:18:42 <T3sl4> some ppl
05:18:51 <ThunderSqueak> no, it was a warning only
05:18:51 <Ampera> if he keeps going on I'll pass him a timed one
05:18:59 <Nevoness_> There are so many "Anti 5G", "Corona is a lie" etc people in the court. It really isnt funny.
05:19:07 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
05:19:08 <Nevoness_> Sadly my dad is also one of them
05:19:18 <ThunderSqueak> and when it comes to someone talking about my dead relatives, I have little tolerance
05:19:19 <Ampera> Conspiracy nuts are only worth as much attention as you're willing to give them
05:19:28 <Nevoness_> Considering that my mom works at a pharmacy... I take it quite serious
05:19:36 <Ampera> Rule is as always in here don't be a dick
05:19:41 <Nevoness_> Yeah
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05:20:17 <ThunderSqueak> hmm think I had too much caffiene
05:20:20 <T3sl4> exactly, you can't debunk a conspiracy theorist, you can only give them your platform
05:20:28 <T3sl4> so deplatform them
05:20:31 <Ampera> no
05:20:35 <Ampera> deplatforming is wrong
05:20:48 <Ampera> Everyone, even the crazy, should have the right and ability to voice their bullshit
05:20:52 * T3sl4 pulls the rug out from under Ampera
05:21:06 * Ampera stands steadfast
05:22:01 * Nevoness_ watches Ampera float
05:22:02 <Ampera> People get so pissed about QAnon, even though I am almost sure they're a 4chan meme, but then wonder why they get so popular when they're plastered all over the news as the next hip thing not to be
05:22:20 <Ampera> which is honestly why I'm convinced it's a 4chan meme because that's literally their gig
05:23:21 <Nevoness_> What/Who is QAnon?
05:23:44 <T3sl4> but you also want the world to burn, or more particularly yourself, so your opinion also isn't meaningful Ampera
05:23:52 <Ampera> T3sl4, shut up or put up
05:23:55 <Ampera> :P
05:24:02 * T3sl4 poops on Ampera's head
05:24:09 <Ampera> I want the world to be free, and nobody to have the ability to silence others for opinions they don't like
05:24:19 <Ampera> because there exists not a person among us who is free of bias enough to do that
05:24:32 <Ampera> I genuinely feel sorry for people who can't handle someone being wrong and having a platform
05:24:33 <T3sl4> opinions aren't worth nearly as much as you think
05:25:11 <T3sl4> i always found the "marketplace of ideas" concept to be rather laughable; ideas are worth $0.00, it's not a marketplace it's a sewer
05:25:32 <T3sl4> everything's for free and it's almost all shit, you're welcome to sift through it but you'll only end up smelly
05:25:46 <Ampera> That's fine, don't shut it down
05:25:54 <Ampera> because you do not get to dictate who is allowed to speak and who isn't
05:25:56 <Ampera> and nobody should
05:26:22 <Ampera> It is the single most important human right to believe, and express that belief, in a group or alone, publicly or private.
05:26:30 <T3sl4> you seem to advocate that we should allow people to spread sewage in the open, on streets, because it's the natural order of things, it's "free"
05:26:31 <Ampera> Without it we can have no rights we can call our own.
05:26:43 <T3sl4> nevermind that toxic ideas have real consequences, just as toxic sewage does
05:26:43 <Ampera> T3sl4, you seem to have some really stinky analogies
05:27:08 <T3sl4> excuse me if the analogy is too apt
05:27:09 <Ampera> The problem is I believe in a society chosen by its people, and if those people wish for a toxic society, then a toxic society they will have.
05:27:24 <Ampera> Silencing people for wanting a different society you don't like is authoritarian bullshit
05:28:34 <Ampera> The right to object is the right to not live in tyranny.
05:28:49 <Ampera> and ultimately the price of freedom is everyone get to have some
05:28:53 <T3sl4> if only you could see the irony that your rhetoric is precisely what actual authoritarians use to justify their attacks
05:28:54 <Ampera> not just those you want
05:29:14 <Ampera> Famous authoritarians like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were quite adamant about shutting down conversations they didn't like.
05:29:21 <Ampera> That's what made them so terrifying.
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05:29:44 <Ampera> That's what makes places like China so terrible, because they /will/ abuse people and /will/ shut those down who want to speak out
05:29:55 <Ampera> so the rest too far from the carnage can never know and assemble
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05:32:28 <T3sl4> ah yes, call me a stalinist, thanks for trying bye
05:32:42 <Ampera> nice leap
05:33:02 <Ampera> admin, I'm presuming that's you Nevoness_ / Nevoness
05:33:17 <Nevoness_> oops
05:33:19 <Ampera> if not, please change your nick.
05:33:23 <Ampera> well, change your nick anyways
05:33:26 <Nevoness_> My ZNC is doing things i didnt want it to
05:33:30 <Nevoness_> Am about to
05:33:32 <Nevoness_> sec
05:33:43 <Ampera> np
05:34:56 <T3sl4> Ampera, when you allow all types of speech unimpeded, you get chaos
05:34:59 <T3sl4> you get death threats
05:35:10 <T3sl4> you get authoritarians and in turn genocides
05:35:13 <Ampera> Never said all types of speech, again, nice leap
05:35:23 <Ampera> Threats are already illegal and should remain so
05:35:42 <T3sl4> except you did
05:36:05 <Ampera> I said who is allowed to speak about what
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05:36:16 <Ampera> I did not say threats should be allowed
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05:36:35 <Ampera> You are trying to find pointless exception in things I didn't say nor intend to justify your point.
05:36:46 <Ampera> Including feigning my calling you a stalinist, which I did not do.
05:37:14 Quit: Nevoness ([email protected]) Quit: -a- IRC for Android 2.1.59
05:37:14 <Ampera> Stop being such a child and deal with people disagreeing with you instead of throwing a tantrum.
05:38:42 <T3sl4> you refuse to reason about anything at all
05:39:08 <T3sl4> this conversation is meaningless, i feel no obligation to present my arguments in good faith
05:39:16 <Ampera> T3sl4, if you projected any harder they wouldn't need a booth operator at the movie theaters, you could be the entire booth.
05:39:29 <T3sl4> right
05:39:32 <T3sl4> fuck this again
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05:40:11 <Ampera> Number of people who will miss him: 0
05:40:18 <Ampera> whiny little shit
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05:42:27 <Nevoness> Well that was something
05:42:36 <Ampera> might want to change your user too
05:42:45 <Nevoness> Ye, need to reconnect the ZNC
05:42:50 <Nevoness> Just configuring things atm
05:42:54 <Ampera> np
05:46:42 <Ampera> all I can say is it's gonna be fun with Halcyon eventually tries to drag him back in
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05:48:25 <Nevoness> That looks better
05:48:30 <Ampera> Nice.
05:48:51 <Nevoness> Finally some use for that server besides running 2 minecraft servers noone plays on
05:48:51 <Nevoness> lol
05:49:03 <Nevoness> totally need 10 cores and 50GB of ram to run ZNC
05:51:38 <electrohead> lol
05:51:43 <electrohead> officially back, too
05:51:48 <electrohead> so, car is all clean
05:52:42 <Nevoness> Wb
05:52:56 <electrohead> now, I patiently wait until monday
05:53:00 <electrohead> thanks ~
05:55:26 * Ysjoelfir is preparing cabbage rolls <3
05:56:02 <electrohead> filled with what?
05:56:28 <Ysjoelfir> erm
05:56:40 <Ysjoelfir> minced meat? :D is there anything else one would put in there?
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06:00:39 <ThunderSqueak> *sigh* one of the things about helpdesk I hate is that people call you for help and then don't follow your directions
06:01:19 <Ysjoelfir> did you try turning the customer off and on again?
06:01:27 <electrohead> ThunderSqueak: lol, you need to virtually slap them
06:01:43 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: anything else other than meat, like seasonings, etc?
06:01:48 <electrohead> still though, sounds good :D
06:04:09 <Ysjoelfir> fuck, I wanted to add that nasty chorizo >_> but I forgot. meh. But yeah, seasonings, a lot of them actually. and minced onion, one egg, and shredded shrooms
06:04:30 * electrohead devours your food
06:04:53 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and don't forget the good amount of tomato paste
06:06:53 <Nevoness> Stahp making me hungry
06:07:01 <Nevoness> I dont really have food at home besides chips
06:08:39 * Ysjoelfir offers a bag of chips for one of these https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c4DdHG1-9yztnuxMl6RB2Ijx6ogqKjLm?usp=sharing
06:10:35 <Nevoness> Yumk
06:10:39 <Nevoness> Those look good
06:10:41 <Nevoness> Gib
06:11:25 <Watcher> Nevoness: if you give it to Ysjoelfir you get more chips i have the idea that that isnot a good deal
06:11:45 <electrohead> I would make those disappear so quick, lol
06:11:53 <electrohead> how many are you making?
06:13:18 <Nevoness> Watcher: Uhh wait, youre right
06:13:19 <Nevoness> lol
06:13:51 * electrohead offers beer to everyone
06:14:26 <Watcher> electrohead: what beer makes the offer
06:14:37 <electrohead> Guiness Draught Stout
06:14:39 <electrohead> :D
06:15:05 <Ysjoelfir> I basically make one whole... "Wirsing" cabbage, and I'm to lazy to look up how thats called in english. though I use only the dark leaves for the rolls and use the light ones for a side dish. So I would say... that are roughly 12 rolls.
06:15:51 <Ysjoelfir> also Watcher: pssst, don't point them to my spelling mistake :P
06:15:57 * Ysjoelfir still hopes for some chips to enjoy later
06:16:37 <Nevoness> Whats wirsing
06:16:43 <Nevoness> Never heard that word before lol
06:16:51 <Watcher> That food of the pics
06:17:08 <Watcher> thats becuase it is de german name
06:17:19 <Ysjoelfir> he should know the german word :D
06:17:34 <Ysjoelfir> english seems to be "savoy"
06:17:44 <electrohead> lol
06:18:17 <Nevoness> I know that its german, but havent head that word before.
06:18:23 <Ysjoelfir> Nevoness, in your part of the world it seems you guys just call it Kohl (cabbage for the english speaking ones :P )
06:18:24 <Nevoness> And im Austrian, so i should know it
06:18:33 <Nevoness> Ah, that makes more sense
06:18:34 <Nevoness> :P
06:18:52 <Ysjoelfir> looks like that https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirsing#/media/Datei:Wirsingkohl.jpg
06:20:35 <Nevoness> Ye, thats just kohl here
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06:29:20 <ThunderSqueak> *dances around the room*
06:29:46 * Nevoness joins the dancing
06:29:51 <ThunderSqueak> hi
06:29:54 <Nevoness> Hi ^^
06:30:11 <ThunderSqueak> hows you and have we met?
06:30:11 <Nevoness> Fits well to the music im listening to atm :P
06:30:21 <Nevoness> Nope, we havent met yet. Joined today
06:30:24 <ThunderSqueak> ah, I am just listing to the sounds of nature :D
06:30:31 <Nevoness> Doing fine so far, just enjoying my evening
06:30:31 <ThunderSqueak> we have a lot of nature here <.<;;
06:30:35 <Nevoness> Nice
06:30:38 <ThunderSqueak> Alaska
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06:31:10 <Nevoness> Mmh sounds nice there
06:31:17 <ThunderSqueak> can be
06:31:26 <electrohead> ThunderSqueak: you can keep the coldness up there, thanks lol
06:31:41 <electrohead> (Pennsylvania, here)
06:31:43 <ThunderSqueak> its colder in ND
06:31:52 <ThunderSqueak> I am near the ocean
06:32:17 <electrohead> a friend of mine was stationed out there, and he said "this place sucks"
06:32:34 <ThunderSqueak> nah, this place is paradise tbh
06:32:46 <ThunderSqueak> your friend must have had their eyes closed
06:33:01 <ThunderSqueak> the only sucky thing here are the politics
06:33:33 <Ampera> those suck everywhere
06:33:43 <ThunderSqueak> pretty much
06:34:06 <Nevoness> im nowhere close to the ocean
06:34:12 <Nevoness> Just in the middle of Europe
06:35:00 <electrohead> it would take a few hours of driving to get to the nearest beach for me
06:37:47 <Ysjoelfir> seems like we have a beach in the middle of frankfurt soon
06:37:50 <coppice> I can drive to a beach in an hour. Getting to a warm sunny beach takes a little longer
06:38:12 <Ysjoelfir> at least if you trust the concept pictures of frankfurts public bath... thingi
06:39:15 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.fr.de/bilder/2020/10/23/90078266/24187784-resbtock-2iA5J6NSHja7.jpg see at the bottom left. No idea where we have a beach in frankfurt
06:40:20 <Watcher> looks indeed as a beach
06:40:47 <Nevoness> lol.
06:41:46 <electrohead> step 1 - add water
06:41:49 <electrohead> step 2 - add sand
06:41:53 <electrohead> voila, "beach"
06:42:16 <Watcher> step 0 - remove the sand out the hole
06:43:15 <electrohead> that's what most politicians need to do
06:43:18 * electrohead runs
06:44:56 <Ysjoelfir> yes, sure :D I mean, its a public swimming pool thing. and IIRC the biggest one in europe for quite some time? it has (now) 3500m² pool area and 7000m² land area, the new one will have 1800m² pool and 18.000m² land. no idea why you would do that. also, where that beach is on the concept art is in reality a highway. oh, and rebuilding that thing will cost 90.000.000€
06:46:34 <Watcher> i think that the beach is not coming soon
06:46:56 <Watcher> only because you need to move a highway
06:48:42 <Ysjoelfir> I agree
06:49:31 <Ysjoelfir> I also wonder why that POOL will have 10 times less pool area than land area. I mean... its.... a pool. not a walking field.
06:49:50 <Watcher> good qeustion
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06:51:01 <Ysjoelfir> I also wonder why it will have LESS pool area than the old one, which gets used by roughly a third of all swimmers in frankfurt. there are roughly 1.8 million pool visitors for 12 public pools we have here. 600.000 of them visit this one each year
06:51:04 <ThunderSqueak> I am sitting about 10 min drive to the ocean
06:53:36 <Ysjoelfir> so. enough ranting :D what interestings are happening?
06:54:32 <ThunderSqueak> I built an ultim809 computer
06:55:17 <ThunderSqueak> pretty neat little machine, 6809 cpu, lots of memory (512k paged), same graphics processor as a sega megadrive, and a yamaha sound synth
06:55:40 <electrohead> oooo
06:55:40 <ThunderSqueak> I am waiting for the card reader socket to get in so I can add mass storage
06:55:44 * electrohead borrows it
06:56:11 <ThunderSqueak> you can build your own, https://github.com/74hc595/Ultim809
06:56:12 <ThunderSqueak> :D
06:57:17 <Ysjoelfir> very nice :)
06:57:17 <electrohead> *saves*
06:57:19 <electrohead> danke :)
06:57:25 <electrohead> actually, I should say..
06:57:30 * electrohead saves to the massive collection
06:57:56 <Watcher> what linux distros can it run
07:00:09 <electrohead> lol
07:01:22 <Nevoness> Sounds like it will run Ubuntu 20.10 just fiiiine
07:02:43 <Watcher> Nevoness: (i now that it is a foke) You can't run Ubuntu 20.10 on 32 bit systems
07:02:55 <Watcher> 5
07:02:56 <Nevoness> Shhhh
07:03:25 <Nevoness> Not like i would run ubuntu anyways.
07:03:49 <ThunderSqueak> tbh I do have a commodore posix lookalike environment with a K&R C compiler bundled in :P
07:03:51 <Nevoness> I neither like ubuntu or gnome :P
07:04:07 <ThunderSqueak> wonder if I could get something like that running on this as the OS, which I have to write still :P
07:04:20 <ThunderSqueak> then port sdcc or something to it
07:05:00 <ThunderSqueak> first thing however, I need to get a monitor running
07:05:17 <ThunderSqueak> something similar to the woz monitor
07:05:39 <Ampera> I wish I was intelligent enough to put together my own computer
07:05:47 <Ampera> I've thought about trying to make a simple as possible one out of a 68k
07:06:17 <ThunderSqueak> oh that is easy, there are lots of very basic designs out there you can expand on, and with a CF card you can easily just wire in parallel mass storage
07:06:38 <ThunderSqueak> I am taking the more difficult route by using an SD card
07:06:46 <Ampera> well I have EPROMs
07:06:49 <Ampera> which would be even easier
07:06:59 <ThunderSqueak> yeah but not as fun
07:07:09 <Ampera> I have a dream computer I wish I could make one day
07:07:17 <ThunderSqueak> plan it :D
07:07:25 <Ampera> I have, but I'm just nowhere near good enough to make it
07:07:26 <ThunderSqueak> get a protoversion wired up
07:07:38 <Ampera> don't have the resources, and it's just one of many many hobbies
07:07:41 <ThunderSqueak> the best way to learn and get good enough is just to try doing it
07:07:54 <Ampera> I also don't really have the space
07:07:57 <Ampera> you know, typical excuses
07:08:09 <ThunderSqueak> if you do not try, you will never accomplish anything... it is just like learning to program, you learn by changing stuff and seeing what happens
07:08:24 <Ampera> I know, but I don't just enjoy electronics
07:08:30 <Ampera> I have a /lot/ of hobbies that take up my time
07:08:35 <Ampera> and those are far more practical at the moment
07:08:40 <ThunderSqueak> you dont have a space for a small pc that takes up as much room as a pi ?
07:08:48 <ThunderSqueak> XD
07:08:54 <Ampera> No I don't have space for the bench and equipment to put it together
07:09:07 <Ampera> or even to work on it, as I have so much shit it makes clearing a table almost impossible
07:09:29 <Ampera> I also have another electronics project to finish first, which I haven't started much on besides getting parts together for a prototype
07:09:31 <electrohead> Ampera: just buy a few r.pi 4's and install arch on them, then start automating things with them
07:09:34 <electrohead> :P
07:09:44 <Ampera> automating what
07:09:49 <electrohead> so that way "linux runs everything"
07:09:54 <electrohead> whatever you want to, lol
07:09:58 <Ampera> Linux as a server is annoying
07:10:12 <Ampera> and I plan to do home automation, when I move into my own house
07:10:23 <Nevoness> I actually really quite dislike my RPi 4
07:10:28 <ThunderSqueak> oh I do too, infact I am sitting here between helpdesk calls playing a quena and just rocking out :P
07:11:01 <Ampera> Nevoness, here here
07:11:23 <ThunderSqueak> my pi4 I hooked up to the tv with retropi on it so my wife can try out old retro games :P
07:11:27 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, oh that's neat, I actually bought a 6 string bass recently
07:11:37 <ThunderSqueak> even got the thing running playstation 1 games really well
07:11:40 <Nevoness> I have the 3 as well and like it quite a lot more
07:11:56 <Ampera> The Pi annoys me because the graphics drivers suck ass
07:12:06 <Nevoness> especially since i bought the 4 at launch and NOTHING worked right
07:12:08 <Nevoness> Not even Kodi
07:12:11 <Ampera> I basically have no 2D acceleration whatsoever, as apparently the Mali GPUs are GL only
07:12:24 <Nevoness> the DSI display in combination with Kodi still blackscreens
07:12:25 <ThunderSqueak> Ampera, quena is a bit different than my usual flute, I got it as a replacement for the one I had smashed by customs when I came to alaska
07:12:30 <Ampera> so KMS is emulated and slow as hell, and 2D acceleration can be emulated, but then you can't have 3D
07:12:46 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, I'm looking at wikipedia pictures, it looks nice
07:13:02 <ThunderSqueak> the assholes litterally took it out of the hard case, then smashed it, then put it back into the case. The case was in prefect condition
07:13:13 <Ampera> rip
07:14:19 <Watcher> bye every one
07:14:23 <Ampera> ciao
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07:14:58 <electrohead> auf wiedersehn
07:15:07 <electrohead> gah, he left before I said that
07:15:13 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446784883633684491/767047283668942909/20201017_104919.jpg ThunderSqueak
07:15:15 <Ampera> my new guitar
07:15:25 <Ampera> (not my amp, this was at the store I bought it from)
07:15:51 <electrohead> Ampera: could you do a demo video of it, by chance? curious how the pick-ups sound!
07:16:03 <Ampera> electrohead, I play like shit
07:16:07 <Ampera> and look like shit to boot
07:16:08 <electrohead> and also, are they active pick-ups?
07:16:22 <Ampera> there's a preamp, I don't know if that qualifies as active
07:16:34 <Ampera> I don't use it anyways because it sounds a bit meh
07:16:36 <electrohead> oh shh, just pick something you know how to play, and don't worry about your looks :P
07:16:50 <electrohead> ok, does the bass itself require a battery?
07:16:54 <Ampera> electrohead, you see that's the problem I don't know how to play shit
07:16:59 <Ampera> electrohead, require? no.
07:17:14 <Ampera> however the optional preamp requires one
07:17:29 <Ampera> without the battery the bass works just fine though
07:19:30 <electrohead> ahh ok, I see I see
07:20:25 <electrohead> and.. just shred it out xD
07:20:46 <Ampera> I also need to get some sort of tripod mount for my phone
07:22:46 <electrohead> just prop it up on something :P
07:22:58 <Ampera> don't have anywhere to prop it up on
07:23:04 <electrohead> fair enough, lol
07:23:30 <Ampera> electrohead, it's amplified by a DAC/ADC anyways, I can just make a recording and give it to you
07:23:59 <Ampera> if you want I can go do that now
07:24:08 <electrohead> at your own pace
07:24:11 <electrohead> :)
07:24:20 <electrohead> can be whenever, and if you are up to it \m/
07:25:05 <ThunderSqueak> my old flute was a more traditional north american Native flute... I really miss it
07:25:19 <Ampera> I'll try now, but I'll probably suck
07:25:20 <Ampera> brb
07:26:53 <Ysjoelfir> it
07:26:54 <Ysjoelfir> is
07:26:57 <Ysjoelfir> dooooone <3
07:27:03 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cHwuJcZ77IIFvWG79Fn1rJRfxYiYVGKc/view?usp=sharing
07:27:23 * electrohead steals it
07:28:14 <ThunderSqueak> oh wow, nice bass Ampera :) looks like an ibanez gsr206
07:28:27 <ThunderSqueak> I have an ibanez bass, different model, 5 string
07:29:36 * Ysjoelfir is generous and hands electrohead a plate with two and a big spoon full of veggies
07:29:59 <ThunderSqueak> I have discovered, my gerbils love music
07:30:07 <ThunderSqueak> that is so crazy
07:30:09 <ThunderSqueak> :D
07:30:26 <ThunderSqueak> they actually get upset at me when I turned it off
07:31:13 * Ysjoelfir googles what a gerbil is
07:31:28 <Ysjoelfir> oh, mice! cute!
07:32:52 <electrohead> lol
07:33:03 * electrohead fires up the half stack and blares slayer \m/
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07:43:59 <ThunderSqueak> more like a small rat
07:44:05 <ThunderSqueak> they are a LOT smarter than mice
07:44:26 <ThunderSqueak> as in, they like to be tickled like rats, can solve puzzles and even improvise tools
07:45:00 <ThunderSqueak> I like putting apple slices in odd places in their habitat and watching them use sticks and stuff to get them
07:45:10 <ThunderSqueak> they really seem to enjoy the puzzles :D
07:45:33 <ThunderSqueak> turns out, they like music too
07:46:15 <ThunderSqueak> they tap their feet as a warning or mating call, and other behaviors also are all auditory based, so I guess it makes sense that they enjoy music
07:46:16 <Ysjoelfir> how cool :D
07:47:03 <ThunderSqueak> there is a youtube channel called "music for gerbils" LOL
07:47:18 <ThunderSqueak> omg they love it O.O
07:47:36 <ThunderSqueak> that is the most excited I have ever seen them, they are dancing XD
07:50:05 <Ysjoelfir> lol
07:50:07 <Ysjoelfir> ^^
07:51:05 <ThunderSqueak> tap those feet :X
07:51:18 <ThunderSqueak> they are tapping to the beat
07:52:02 <ThunderSqueak> just playing this https://youtu.be/WFas2qfY3FU
07:57:05 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, it's an Ibanez SR506E iirc
07:57:17 <Ampera> electrohead, ended up recording something, nothing great, but it's something I guess
07:57:32 <Ampera> might be loud, I used distortion so it brings the levels to peak off my DSP amp
07:59:29 <Ampera> electrohead, https://amperaa.net/cdn/projects/6stringbassdemoreduced.flac
07:59:38 <Ampera> direct download, watch out
07:59:48 <electrohead> all good, I'll just wget it :P
08:00:26 <Ampera> I just want to curl up in a ball and die
08:01:31 <electrohead> why?
08:01:39 <Ampera> curl
08:01:49 <Nevoness> but why
08:01:53 <Ampera> curl
08:02:06 <electrohead> oh oh
08:02:08 <Nevoness> but the die part
08:02:09 <electrohead> lol
08:02:19 * electrohead wget's all day until curl is needed :P
08:02:37 <Ampera> Nevoness, depression is fun
08:02:43 <electrohead> dude, you need to bring the bass out
08:02:46 <Nevoness> I know it all too well
08:02:49 <Ampera> I get to it
08:03:00 <ThunderSqueak> Ampera, my fav guitar is my telecaster
08:03:03 <electrohead> I love the low end of the bass the most
08:03:17 <Ampera> but the thing is I'm not a normal bass player, my reasons for owning a bass is that I like the deeper sound, but still having some higher range
08:03:27 <Ampera> so I play it like I'd play a normal guitar
08:03:33 <ThunderSqueak> I have a fender deluxe telecaster in butterscotch blonde :> beautiful instrument. I can make it sing lor growl:>
08:03:37 <Ampera> that's why I got the 6 string because it's just a scaled up guitar
08:03:38 <ThunderSqueak> sing or growl
08:03:42 * electrohead hands ThunderSqueak his Ibanez RG2228GK
08:04:08 <Ampera> I debated a fender but they didn't have any 6 strings which I really wanted
08:04:38 <Ampera> not to mention their prices concern me as they range from a hundred bucks to if I had to ask I couldn't afford it
08:05:09 <Ampera> I eventually plan to get a normal electric, and will likely go for a real tele or strat, but I'm having fun on the bass for now
08:11:31 <Ampera> electrohead, thoughts?
08:12:11 <electrohead> I like the sound, but definitely bring your lows out a bit if you can
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08:12:21 <electrohead> as, you know, it's called a bass guitar for a reason :P
08:12:26 <Ampera> fuck that
08:12:29 <Ampera> I'll play it how I want >:(
08:12:34 <electrohead> lol
08:12:47 <electrohead> I'm not talking about how you play right now,
08:12:51 <Ampera> I play the high strings because they're easiest and I don't do a lot of string hopping
08:12:53 <electrohead> just the sound, itself
08:13:07 <Ampera> lol, that's bass boosted
08:13:07 <electrohead> you were using a pick, yes?
08:13:09 <Ampera> yeah
08:13:24 <electrohead> lol
08:13:31 <electrohead> ok yeah, thought so
08:13:37 <electrohead> overall, sounds pretty good :)
08:13:50 <electrohead> me personally, I'd tune your EQ lows up a bit
08:13:50 <Ampera> It does have a 3 band EQ, it's possible I had the bass down for whatever reason
08:13:56 <Ampera> let me check
08:14:32 <Ampera> EQ was max all levels
08:14:43 <Ampera> so I could put more bias towards bass if I wanted to
08:14:50 <Ampera> but flat was fine for me at that moment
08:15:05 <Ampera> how was my playing in general
08:15:12 <Ampera> I'm tired and on the spot so my timing sucks
08:15:22 <Ampera> when I'm awake and more relaxed it ends up being better
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08:17:17 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
08:17:24 <Nothing\> oh lordy lordy
08:17:30 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
08:17:35 <electrohead> EQ was maxed for everything? that's why I didn't hear a lot of actual bass :P
08:17:37 * Ampera falls asleep in Nothing\'s arms
08:17:39 <Nothing\> lost my vape pen for shatter last night
08:17:45 <Ampera> electrohead, this was the 3 band EQ on the guitar
08:17:46 <electrohead> turn the bass side of the EQ down a bit
08:17:49 <Ampera> not a DSP EQ
08:17:55 <Ampera> down?
08:18:01 <electrohead> yes, down
08:18:02 <Ampera> wouldn't that get /rid/ of the bass?
08:18:05 <Nothing\> my mom found it in the blankets we stuff under the couch so the cats don't get under it
08:18:09 <Nothing\> and i've been busy all day
08:18:18 <electrohead> think of that as a filter, on the guitar
08:18:22 <Nothing\> so i only JUST had my first real hit of shatter of the day
08:18:31 <Ampera> I'm aware of how an EQ works
08:18:37 <Nothing\> so nice, except the tightness of my lungs
08:18:43 <Ampera> but turning the bass down removes the bass
08:18:54 <Nothing\> EQ is just settable band pass filters
08:19:00 <Ampera> yes I know what an EQ is
08:19:02 <Nothing\> or something
08:19:04 * Ampera smashes head into desk
08:19:10 <Nothing\> no you don't
08:19:12 <Nothing\> lol
08:19:13 <Ampera> ?????
08:19:16 <Nothing\> you see Ampera
08:19:21 <electrohead> as far as your playing? I have no complaints :P
08:19:28 <Nothing\> when two objects strike one another
08:19:42 <Ampera> I'll strike my fist against your skull if you don't pipe down :P
08:20:01 <Nothing\> they produce these vibrations, or alternating high and low pressure waves in the air
08:20:06 <electrohead> lol
08:20:10 <electrohead> hey Nothing\ o/
08:20:17 <Ampera> if I were to kick you right now would it funny enough to be excusable
08:20:20 <Nothing\> hey electrohead how's it going buddy?
08:20:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, of course lol
08:20:34 <Nothing\> don't worry about offending me man
08:20:36 <Ampera> damn you that's like saying kill me to an ircop
08:20:46 <Ampera> whatever
08:20:52 <Nothing\> lol i've been klined dude
08:20:56 <Nothing\> i've had it all done to me
08:21:02 <Ampera> electrohead, I haven't been playing that long, and never know how good I actually am
08:21:06 <Nothing\> hell i AM klined from at least 2 servers
08:21:09 <Ampera> as I more have fun doing it rather than care about listening to it
08:21:18 <Nothing\> one being the sister server of this one
08:21:27 <Ampera> sister server?
08:21:30 <Nothing\> cuz jspiros doesn't like people chatting too much in the chat room
08:21:33 <Ampera> wha
08:21:42 <Nothing\> the other eevblog irc
08:21:47 <Ampera> Nothing\, drunk &/| high
08:21:48 <electrohead> it's nothing but BS on the other server's channel
08:21:59 <Ampera> yeah but it's fun bs
08:22:05 <electrohead> ehh
08:22:09 <Nothing\> Ampera, sedated, i dunot' like alcohol
08:22:16 <Ampera> that explains it
08:22:28 * electrohead throws a mad elf at Nothing\
08:22:31 <Nothing\> the hangover makes it so to me imo, as good as you feel, you feel just as shitty the day after
08:22:48 <Nothing\> i used to love drinking as much as smoking a joint
08:22:58 <electrohead> https://troegs.com/beer/mad-elf/
08:23:07 <electrohead> expensive, but tasty as fuck
08:23:17 <Ampera> "are you at least 21 years of age"
08:23:20 <Ampera> >no
08:23:23 <Ampera> >sent back to google
08:23:26 <electrohead> lol
08:23:32 <Nothing\> but for some reason my brain lost its taste for it and even just half a drink will be enough to cause my heart to pound out of my chest and for me to feel shitty and like i've been poisoned or something
08:23:41 <electrohead> turn off javascript and you won't have to deal with that :P
08:24:06 <Ampera> I would go insane if I had to deal with noscript's bullshit
08:24:25 <Ampera> those people who do custom filters and manually turn things on/off for each website
08:24:35 <Ampera> I'm getting annoyed just thinking about it
08:24:35 <electrohead> >.>
08:24:42 <Nothing\> the last time i remember being really hungover, i was looking at the stars and they were all moving aronud the sky and i had this sense of impending doom that was consuming my very soul
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08:25:05 <Nothing\> if the point of drinking is to have fun, it's lost on me now
08:25:39 <Nothing\> there was a point where i loved drinking but for some reason as i got older it just got less fun and more poison-like in how it felt
08:26:36 <Nothing\> the only way i can tolerate the effects really, are if i combine it with sedatives
08:26:46 <Nothing\> which, let's face it is just asking for trouble
08:27:01 Quit: Ea ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
08:27:44 <Nothing\> though tbh i've combined booze with amounts of sleeping pills you would swear should kill a man and i didn't die. so apparently people are a lot more resilient to it than we're led to believe
08:28:14 <Nothing\> i wound up in the ER because i was out of control, but had no physical health problems
08:28:57 <electrohead> please don't kill yourself doing stuff like that
08:29:02 <electrohead> that's all (we) ask
08:29:06 <electrohead> you're a cool dude
08:29:07 <Nothing\> so glad i don't do that shit anymore
08:29:17 <Nothing\> nah man, i don't do stuff like that anymore
08:29:41 <Nothing\> that was after my wife left me and i lost my daughter so i was in a bad way and didn't care if i died
08:30:18 <electrohead> well glad to hear you don't do that anymore :)
08:30:57 <Nothing\> thankfully something bigger than me or you or any physical being was looking out for me. can't say what it is. won't even force the idea that it exists on anybody. but i just know with all of the stupid shit i've done i should either be dead or in prison for a very long time or homeless
08:31:12 <Nothing\> or a combination of the above
08:32:38 <Nothing\> electrohead, yeah i came to the conclusion that i have enough stuff to deal with as it is. doing stuff like self harm and self destructive behavior only adds more problems to deal with and makes things more difficult than they were to begin with
08:33:08 <Nothing\> i used to self mutilate/burn a lot too. like 5-10+ years ago
08:34:45 <Nothing\> i don't regret it cuz it was all a good lesson for me
08:34:54 <Nothing\> life lesson
08:35:03 * electrohead takes your weed away :P
08:35:11 <Nothing\> lol
08:36:21 <electrohead> one big thing for me now, though.. I can smell it from a mile away
08:36:38 <electrohead> half the time I go outside to my car, I can smell it coming from like, 5 different houses
08:36:40 <electrohead> lmfao
08:39:17 <Nothing\> bah, i moved my taskbar to the bottom of the screen and it's proving a pain to get used to
08:40:03 <Nothing\> i used to keep it at the left cuz back in the days of XP, icons were a lot thinner, vertically -
08:40:17 <Nothing\> so you could fit more of them doing it vertically
08:41:01 <electrohead> I have two bars, one at the top, and one at the bottom
08:41:04 <Nothing\> but all taht changed after vista
08:41:10 <electrohead> have you ever seen my setup on my laptop?
08:41:18 <Nothing\> i haven't
08:42:29 <Nothing\> mine's just a standard setup but i hide my taskbar by default
08:42:30 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/HujRYiI.png
08:43:17 <Nothing\> nice
08:43:46 <electrohead> (that's Awesome WM)
09:06:39 <Nothing\> welp, i should be able to chew on my new crowns now
09:07:03 <Nothing\> but i think i'll give it another 12-24 hours and/or not start with something hard and crunchy
09:08:08 <Nothing\> he warned me against chewy stuf like starbursts or those stupid caramels that come in the generic orange halloween wrapper
09:08:49 <Nothing\> i've lost several fillings to those and that was when my teeth were sill relatively healthy
09:32:10 <ThunderSqueak> this is neat https://hackaday.com/2020/10/28/this-z80-computer-bootstraps-itself/
09:32:18 <Nothing\> ugh i've been playing mario kart 8 lately
09:32:32 <Nothing\> finally got first place in all of the cups on 100cc mode
09:32:44 <Nothing\> but now i'm getting my ass kicked in 150cc mode
09:33:50 <Nothing\> i always wondered in the higher cc moves made the computer run faster but not you, or if they affepct you it which case, you wouldn't think it wou/h me a
09:33:59 <Nothing\> as difficult as it is
09:34:26 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, that is pretty cool
09:34:47 <ThunderSqueak> *nod*
09:34:53 <Nothing\> i dislike hackaday, though
09:35:00 <ThunderSqueak> sorry been afk, at work :>
09:35:19 <ThunderSqueak> ah, they are ok people mostly, I have gotten along with Mike and Brian
09:36:27 <ThunderSqueak> even get along with Chris Gammell
09:36:30 <Nothing\> they poach articles from other sites and yeah they give you the articles to the original content the hackaday ones tend to be subpar in terms of descriptive quality and... welll quality in eneral
09:36:43 <Nothing\> but i will admit it's nice to get a quick summary of what the story's about
09:37:17 <ThunderSqueak> well, they dont pay their authors very well, Mike offered me a job last time we were sitting at a table having a burger, Brian was there and said to mike "nah, she is too busy for this type of work" :P
09:37:58 <ThunderSqueak> gosh that was a few years ago now.... how time flies
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10:08:45 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9xwxxVbsf0&feature=youtu.be
10:33:40 <Nothing\> whew, just fell asleeu aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
10:33:40 <Nothing\> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
10:33:41 <Nothing\> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
10:33:46 <Nothing\> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
10:33:51 <Nothing\> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
10:33:58 <Nothing\> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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10:34:42 <Nothing\> shit sorry
10:35:11 <Nothing\> i fell asleep on my keyboard, i hope all of that didn't make it onto the server
10:37:12 <Nothing\> and in the off case that somebody wanted a wall of a's on their screen... voila
10:38:16 <ThunderSqueak> I read that as you just standing there screaming XD
10:38:59 <Nothing\> actually, it is pretty trippy to open up notepad and type in a wall of nothing but !'s
10:39:11 <Nothing\> lol ThunderSqueak quite the opposite
10:39:23 <Nothing\> but yeah, it's like i had an autistic fit or something
10:40:11 <ThunderSqueak> happens, I used to get seizures and am on the spectrum :/
10:40:24 <ThunderSqueak> both my wife and I both are
10:40:37 <ThunderSqueak> guess it is one of the reasons we probably "get" each other
10:40:58 <Nothing\> it's cuz i didn't go to bed until 10am and had to be up by 1am for an appointment so i didnt' get much sleep. plus i'm already chronically sleep deprived.
10:41:04 <ThunderSqueak> ah
10:41:17 <ThunderSqueak> we both have ADHD
10:41:45 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, aww that sucks man, what kind of seizures? well, i've got ADD so i can relate to the problems that causes
10:42:39 <Nothing\> like doing anything requiring multiple steps being almost physically painful and being incredibly aversive to such things
10:43:38 <Nothing\> or having to sit through anything i'm not interested in causes me a great deal of distress
10:44:26 <Nothing\> actually, even reading things that i'm interested in is almost impossible
10:48:12 <ThunderSqueak> hahah so just got a helpdesk call, where they were supposed to do some stuff on a kiosk but apparently someone went around and stole all the kiosk computers O.O
10:48:58 <Nothing\> wow what were they thin clients or something=
10:49:51 <Nothing\> do they even still make/use thin clients these days?
10:51:03 <Nothing\> seems like the same solution could be carried out more cheap and easier using a SOC instead
10:51:38 <ThunderSqueak> i7 :P
10:51:40 <ThunderSqueak> like lol
10:51:58 <ThunderSqueak> i7 with 16gb ram and SSD
10:55:02 <Nothing\> lol
10:55:33 <Nothing\> i read that as an imaginary number, 7i
10:57:52 <ThunderSqueak> they are actually quite powerful little machines, just funny ....
10:58:03 <ThunderSqueak> guess someone didnt strap them down :P
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11:18:11 <Halcyon> Morning all
11:20:07 <Nothing\> morning Halcyon (still 8:21pm here)
11:25:26 <Nothing\> i think i'm gonna get pikmin 3
11:25:37 <Nothing\> i played the demo and liked what i saw
11:25:55 <Nothing\> but i swear there were a few other days i tried that i wanted as well
11:28:21 <Nothing\> oh well, i'll worry about it later. i suppose there's no rush.
11:28:44 <Nothing\> especially if i already have games to play
11:28:55 <Nothing\> oh yeah, i wanted to get animals crossing as well
11:30:12 <Nothing\> but that one's expensive too and i can't justify the cost
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11:38:55 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n8fn7k9NiE
11:39:01 <rust_phone> heh thick layer of ice on my window. good times
11:41:39 <Nothing\> that's right, it wasn't a game i wanted... it was something on amazon
11:41:42 <Nothing\> but what...
11:42:02 <Nothing\> rust_phone, i'm still waiting for our first snowfall. could be friday night
11:42:07 <arch> ya think 0.22uF is too high of a capacitance for snubbing a large inductive load, like my oven?
11:42:20 <arch> 0.22uf with 260ohm resistance
11:42:28 <Nothing\> they're calling for close to negative (centigrade) temperatures
11:43:13 <rust_phone> that os good snow and warm weather is no fun
11:44:01 <Nothing\> arch, ideally you'd work out what the reactance of the inductive load and try to match it with a capacitor with a similar reactance
11:45:18 <Nothing\> since caps have negative reactance, the capacitor's reactance would completely cancel out the inductor's if you get the numbers just right. there are calculators online that can help you figure out the reactance of various caps or inductors
11:45:31 <arch> ooh
11:45:42 <Nothing\> you match em perfectly and to the circuit, it's like they aren't even there if you match them exactly
11:46:41 <Nothing\> now if your inductance of said load is costantly changing, it wouldn't be that cut and dry
11:47:10 <Nothing\> but probably wouldn't make a huge difference if you used the median
11:47:36 <Nothing\> but yeah, it's a pretty nifty trick
11:48:22 <Nothing\> i never even realized until maybe a few months ago that capacitive reactances are always negative
11:49:04 <Nothing\> cuz if you think about it, they cause lag in the opposite direction of inductors
11:49:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Out of all the stuff in the clean out, no one took this GW multimeter. It deserves to live, I'll do a 2nd channel teardown, test, and shipping giveaway. https://t.co/kJn8xY1aFd
11:51:40 <Nothing\> if you want to play around with it, try this nifty javascript based circuit simulator. that's how i found out about it:
11:51:43 <Nothing\> https://lushprojects.com/circuitjs/circuitjs.html
11:51:57 <arch> im just gonna copy a snubber off the net. will fine tune values later
11:52:10 <arch> starting off with 0.22u, 270Ohm
11:52:51 <Nothing\> make an RLC circuit, important to have some resistance in it cuz it doesn't consider other passives to have resistance so freaks out if you connect a cap or inductor directly to a voltage source. but anyways
11:54:11 <Nothing\> set up your RLC circuit in series, and play around with the inductance and capitance values. if you right click a circuit element it'll let you add a slider to change different valuues like capacitance and inductance.
11:54:44 <Nothing\> and see if you can balance them out so there's no lag
11:55:10 <Nothing\> arch, heh that works
11:55:47 <Nothing\> just careful you don't copy it from somebody asking a question about their snubber that won't work on a quora post
11:56:06 <arch> i copied off a chinesium RC snubber selling for $2.70 :D
11:56:15 <arch> also has a MOV too lol
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12:11:37 <Nothing\> ah there ya go
12:14:21 <Nothing\> what do you guys think of... i think it was the king of random who made this "scariac"
12:14:40 <Halcyon> The King of Random is largely click-bait
12:14:51 <Halcyon> The woman barely adds anything other than stupid comments
12:15:44 <Nothing\> it's basically like a variac, but instead of using a variable transformer, you use a variable resistance in the form of putting 2 electrodes in water and changing the voltage by moving them close to/further away from one another
12:15:57 <Nothing\> but no isolation what so ever
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12:19:07 * Halcyon licks T3sl4
12:19:16 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
12:19:19 <Halcyon> :D
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12:24:47 <Halcyon> I might remove all the spinning disks from my hypervisor and just use an SSD to boot and my NAS to host all the images
12:24:57 <Halcyon> Trying to reduce noise and heat a little in that room.
12:26:56 <Nothing\> a lot of these shortwaves receivers on amazon don't even list what bands/frequencies they can pick up :/
12:27:26 <Nothing\> apparently advertising that it ses a PLL is more imortanta]
12:29:15 * Ampera bites Halcyon
12:29:21 <Halcyon> Oww, nippy
12:29:28 <Ampera> tastes like bitch
12:29:34 <Ampera> and old
12:29:34 <Nothing\> and a lot of them come with am/fm radios too, which just feels cheap and gimmicky
12:29:56 <Nothing\> or maybe it's just easy enough imprement them, they do it anyways
12:29:56 * Ampera gives Nothing an am/pm radio
12:30:16 <Nothing\> there is actually a PM
12:30:22 <Nothing\> pulse modulation
12:30:30 <Nothing\> like morse code
12:30:32 <Ampera> digital radio?
12:30:36 <Ampera> ah
12:30:53 <Nothing\> digital radios use stuff like frequency shift keying
12:30:54 <Ampera> though wouldn't
12:30:56 <Ampera> er
12:31:05 <Ampera> wouldn't that technically be just AM
12:31:08 <Nothing\> or amplitude shift keying
12:31:27 <Ampera> since a pulse is one amplitude and nothing is another
12:31:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, indeed i guess it could be as well
12:32:22 <Ampera> I wonder if there is such thing as phase modulation
12:32:41 <Nothing\> i'm pretty sure there is
12:32:51 <Nothing\> if there's a metric, it can be modulated
12:33:05 <Ampera> presumably two signals and the phase is adjusted between the two
12:33:33 <Ampera> sorta like a very weird form of FM
12:34:12 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_modulation#:~:text=Phase%20modulation%20(PM)%20is%20a,modulation%2C%20together%20with%20frequency%20modulation.
12:34:19 <Nothing\> yup
12:34:23 <Nothing\> it exists
12:36:47 * Ampera gives Nothing\ an m&m radio
12:38:45 <Nothing\> lol
12:43:27 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
12:43:43 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
12:44:24 <Nothing\> you're a good friend and i'm not just glad, but privileged to have you as a friend, Ampera
12:44:34 <Halcyon> Aww
12:45:08 <Nothing\> your presence is an asset to our organization <3
12:45:34 <T3sl4> oh my, that's slick as shit
12:45:54 <T3sl4> this updated version of map editor has a "visplane explorer" view
12:49:42 <rust_collector> nice, it is weekend
12:49:49 <T3sl4> hmm, seems it's not quite accurate in one area, but the other area is definitely over the limit
12:49:59 <rust_collector> and 0c
12:50:03 <T3sl4> good thing i'm not really targetting vanilla (or chocolate) doom ;)
12:50:20 * T3sl4 sprinkles water particles on rust_collector
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15:18:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: People say use Davinci Resolve for editing. Sorry, it's a fail. A few minutes of playing with the (inflexible) ripple editing is enough to make it a no-show for my workflow compared to Vegas.
15:46:06 <Halcyon> I just nommed jerky
16:10:38 <rust_collector> I found a tin in the fridge, which said "morbido paté" which sounds great
16:12:58 <Halcyon> Sounds... deathly
16:13:55 <rust_collector> I should print a scull sticker and put on it
16:16:45 <Halcyon> What actually is it?
16:17:11 <rust_collector> uhm, wait
16:20:38 <rust_collector> it is... complete feed for dogs - for the bitch from the end of gestation and during lactation... Composition meat and animal derivatives, derivatives if vegetable oils, cereals, milk, oils, fat and yeasts
16:21:21 <rust_collector> It has a banner around it, saying "size health nutrition"
16:21:24 <rust_collector> I dunno?
16:25:54 <DogWomble> was it beef jerky Halcyon
16:26:16 <Halcyon> It was beef but with a smoky/chargrilled taste
16:26:19 <Halcyon> Was quite nummy
16:26:35 <Halcyon> rust_collector: Good thing you didn't have it on a cracker then :P
16:26:38 <Halcyon> .... or did you?
16:26:39 <Halcyon> :P
16:26:52 <DogWomble> if you've char grilled your beef jerky, you might need to lube up first
16:27:34 <rust_collector> no. I could not find any crackers
16:27:45 <Halcyon> Did you try it by itself?
16:28:33 <rust_collector> nope. I guess i will let it sit there for a few more weeks, before I throw it out
16:29:38 <rust_collector> I bet it is ok food.
16:33:15 <rust_collector> I used to buy dog biscuits and shared them with my cousin, they were not super tasty, but not bad
16:47:35 <Halcyon> I assume you have a dog?
16:47:55 <rust_collector> nope, the wife has a few
16:50:17 <Halcyon> Well, her dogs are your dogs?
16:50:27 <rust_collector> nope
16:50:28 <Halcyon> I assume you all live under the same roof?
16:50:46 <rust_collector> we do have a roof, yes
16:50:49 <Halcyon> :P
16:51:34 <rust_collector> the dogs are cool, but... 1 or 2 would be much more than enough
16:51:51 <rust_collector> I think we have 5 now
16:52:04 <Halcyon> You think? Hahah
17:30:04 <steve30> hi
17:30:16 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
17:32:01 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
17:33:08 <rust_collector> oh, a steve. that reminds me that I should go and snuggle in a duvet or something.
17:33:36 <rust_collector> good time
17:34:17 <steve30> yay duvets
17:34:25 <steve30> I just got up actually
17:52:45 <Nevoness> Good morning
17:57:37 * hsn give armpera water
18:00:17 <Halcyon> I should start preparing dinner
18:09:44 <Nevoness> Hrm, breakfast would sound good to me
18:09:54 * Nevoness sips coffee
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18:17:11 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:17:15 <Ysjoelfir> erm i mean
18:17:17 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
18:17:26 <Ysjoelfir> like... saying hello to everyone
18:17:32 <Ysjoelfir> hello Nevoness!
18:17:45 <Ysjoelfir> hello Halcyon!
18:17:51 <Ysjoelfir> hello steve30!
18:17:57 <Ysjoelfir> fuck you eevbot ._.
18:18:27 * Ysjoelfir rubs EEVBlog with a tortoise
18:19:07 <steve30> hello Ysjoelfir
18:19:10 <hsn> gutten day
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18:19:10 <hsn> gutten tag
18:19:10 <hsn> yes
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> *guten
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> :)
18:19:10 <hsn> u dont like tit ?
18:19:10 <hsn> gutttten
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> I love tits!
18:19:10 <hsn> gutten tits
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> boobies ftw!
18:19:10 <hsn> means good tits?
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> Breasts are Brüste in german^^
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> and usually you don't go around and telling woman that they have nice tits, they might feel offended :P
18:19:10 <hsn> pronounce: "brooste" ?
18:19:10 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: I think that's universal :P
18:19:10 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, but for ass ?
18:19:10 <hsn> in here .. u dont tell woman nothing .. :D
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> hmm.. I don't think that there is an english equivalent for the pronounciation of Ü in english. let me think
18:19:10 <hsn> keep away
18:19:10 <hsn> u have "B" that is "SS" right ?
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> You mean ß?
18:19:10 <hsn> i discovered my wife knows little germany Ysjoelfir ..
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> yep, thats a thing, sadly :D
18:19:10 <hsn> yes that B i dnt have in keyboard
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> oh cool :D
18:19:10 <hsn> she saw me playing lindeo
18:19:10 <hsn> lingdeo
18:19:10 <hsn> deolingo ?
18:19:10 <hsn> what ever .. that app u suggested
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> I think germany is the only nation that uses that stupid ß thing
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D Duolingo
18:19:10 <hsn> and .. its good "gamification app" .. really well done they did
18:19:10 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamification
18:19:10 <Ysjoelfir> indeed. I enjoy using it :)
18:19:10 <hsn> she saw the app she wants it for spanish now
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18:20:03 <steve30> maybe EEVBlog doesn't like us any more
18:20:12 <Ysjoelfir> or it crashed
18:20:17 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog you cunt
18:20:17 <EEVBlog> If you keep saying that, I'm gonna hold you upside down and shake you until all the electrons fall out, Ysjoelfir!
18:20:21 <Ysjoelfir> nopt, it didn't
18:21:26 * Ysjoelfir cuddles up in his plushy blanket
18:21:38 <Ysjoelfir> what a shitty night
18:26:03 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
18:32:06 <Nevoness> lol the bot
18:32:12 <Nevoness> Didnt know it would do that
18:34:59 <Halcyon> It does many things Nevoness
18:35:04 <Halcyon> For example...
18:35:06 <Halcyon> eevblog time
18:35:06 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 18:35 Sydney time.
18:35:28 <Ysjoelfir> it.... posts twitter things, does conversions ( eevblog convert 2937864928741652918765327986491864329786miles to mm ), greets you, says you the sydney time, and maybe, if ampera wants to some day, even converts your time to the time of some key users :)
18:35:29 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
18:35:36 <Ysjoelfir> meh
18:35:37 <Ysjoelfir> :D
18:35:52 <Halcyon> convert 1 km to miles
18:35:52 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog convert 2937864928741652918765327986491864329786miles to mm
18:35:53 <EEVBlog> The result is: 4,727,024,670,345,320,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 mm
18:36:00 <Ysjoelfir> ok, to much text around it
18:39:45 <gremlinz> EEVBlog convert 12 inches to cm
18:39:45 <EEVBlog> The result is: 30.48 cm
18:39:54 <gremlinz> yup aboot rite
18:39:56 <gremlinz> :D
18:40:02 <Halcyon> :P
18:40:15 <Halcyon> Over estimating a bit there gremlinz :P
18:40:53 <gremlinz> give or take 5-6mm
18:40:58 <Halcyon> Heh
18:42:23 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog convert 15.6 cm to inch
18:42:24 <EEVBlog> The result is: 6.142 inch
18:42:30 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds small :(
18:42:35 <Halcyon> Hahaha
18:42:48 <Halcyon> I don't think dick measure was it's intended purpose
18:42:57 <Ysjoelfir> no?
18:43:04 <Halcyon> *shrug*
18:43:09 <Ysjoelfir> I just wanted to ask for a conversation of the diameter
18:43:18 <Halcyon> Haha
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18:58:34 <hsn> https://youtu.be/XB3MsBkCGLQ
18:58:37 <hsn> Substation Walkthrough 345kV to 34.5kV
19:02:17 <Halcyon> Neat
19:13:30 <hsn> just like u Halcyon
19:14:11 <Halcyon> Naww :)
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19:34:36 <K> hello
19:34:51 * Ampera gives K a weasel
19:35:10 <K> is it greased?
19:35:52 <Ysjoelfir> I am very irritated...
19:36:49 <Ysjoelfir> Awesome! A little town near where I live now managed to exit the "Entschuldungsprogramm" ("debt canceling programm") as the first town ever in germanistan! They had 700.000€ in debt which is now gone using this program which basically makes the tax payer pay half of the debt incompetent financial managers in city capitals created, hooray! This was such great news that even our financial minister went there to gratulate the mayor
19:36:49 <Ysjoelfir> that this exact city CREATED 12 MILLION Euros in new debt while repaying the 350.000€ of the old debt ._.
19:37:02 <Ampera> K, it's popped
19:37:35 <Watcher> Why?
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19:38:51 <Ysjoelfir> You know what Ritalin is?
19:39:08 <Ysjoelfir> the medicine for ADHD?
19:39:45 <Watcher> i know what for medecin thta is
19:40:22 <Ysjoelfir> good. do you know how its supposed to work and what happenes if you use it when you don't suffer from ADHD?
19:41:33 <Watcher> i now that here the students at the final exames buy it from the ADHD kids because thy think that it will help for studing the exams
19:43:43 <Ysjoelfir> exactly. To be precise: if you have ADHD it helps you to calm down, focus on stuff, not getting distracted as easy and so on. basically it helps you be "normal". If you abuse it as a non ADHD person you SHOULd get... kind of hyperactive, overwork, get a tunnel vision, don't notice anythign around you anymore and so on. basically the exact opposite, like if you are on speed.
19:44:33 <Watcher> and you have used it now?
19:47:09 <Ysjoelfir> My spouse has ADHD (was never diagnosed in her childhood, so she has to work on that now as an adult) and used ritalin once, but she didn't like it as she felt it changed her personality. which it did. I was cleaning up some time ago, got that old stuff into my fingers and always wondered if it realy is like that, I never tried any kind of drug in my life, got frightened, so I put it aside again, but didn't throt it into the trash
19:47:10 <Ysjoelfir> found it again and sinde I am in a bad mood anyways I decided to fuck it and just try that. And... I notice the effects an ADHD person should feel, not the ones a normal person should have. Which... irritates me massively, as it kind of proofs that my thoughts, something might be a bit wrong with my mental health, despite the depressions I (pretty much successfully) fought the last years.
19:48:34 <K> hello
19:48:44 <Ysjoelfir> -that
19:48:45 <Ysjoelfir> hi K
19:49:48 <Ysjoelfir> I always wondered if I might have a mild form of asperger or.. that other mental issue which I forgot the name of.
19:50:09 <Watcher_2> so your very rexaled now but that makes you angry?
19:50:41 <Watcher_2> btw iám Watcher and Watcher_2
19:50:49 <Ysjoelfir> no, not angry. It scares me.
19:50:53 <Ysjoelfir> I figured :P
19:50:58 <Watcher_2> I'am experimenting with a desktop client
19:51:50 <Watcher_2> So you think that you have a mild form of ADHD because it works as it will do fo ADHD persons?
19:51:50 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if I should make an appointment with a specialist, tell him that and get a diagnosis now
19:51:56 <Ysjoelfir> yes
19:52:45 <Watcher_2> you can do it. i think that it is not a bad idea to talk woith a profissional about it
19:55:12 <Ysjoelfir> also it would explain many things in my live, like me being very bad ad school despite being not dumb (I actually went to a psychiatrist back then that diagnosed me with hyperintelligence >_>), I was just distracted and bored and whatnot. In university I had the same problem, I WANTED to learn the stuff, I WANTED to attend class, but I got distracted by so many things all the time that I just couldn't focus. Also, looking at it no
19:55:12 <Ysjoelfir> notice many things my ADHD spouse does that I do as well. Like seriously not being able to... "remember" to bring my dirty dishes into the dishwasher when I'm done eating, instead I bring it to the counter ABOVE the dishwasher, get distracted by mr. cat who is sitting on the window.. thing, and then leave whithout even noticing that I stopped what I was doing
19:59:36 <K> scatterbrain
19:59:44 <K> i do that too sometimes
20:00:05 <K> fwiw i think everyone does that in some shape or form
20:01:26 <Watcher_2> K but whith ADHD you do that every day multiple times
20:01:40 <K> ok
20:02:28 <K> im not disputing that
20:04:24 <Ysjoelfir> thats what I thought, too. its normal in some way, everyone gets distracted... but I noticed it in many occasions for myself, especially with... things that shouldn't be normal
20:04:26 <K> its just that analysing/tinking about your issues while under the influence of some medicine might be somewhat even more nuanced and complicated
20:05:17 <K> at best you get frustrated, at worst - it might put an obsessive thought in your head
20:08:08 <Ysjoelfir> Like, yesterday I took a shower and left the towel and my dirty clothes on the floor. because reasons. :D 2 hours ago I went past that pile, as I did several times before without even realy noticing it - but this time I picked it up as it came into my mind as something that is not supposed to be there. before I... its hard to describe, I noticed it, but just... ignored it as it didn't seem relevant to me. And yes, of course its an
20:08:08 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely bad idea to think about it now that I am influenced by that medication, I totally agree with you there. though its... kind of... enlightening (?) for me how I feel right now. I notice more stuff that usually don't even come to my mind. its a fascinating experience
20:09:10 <Ysjoelfir> I realy should investigate that further when I am back to normal, reading about the differences how this stuff works on people with or without issues, and probably call a psychiatrist to talk about that and get it checked
20:10:25 <Watcher_2> is it not a good idea if you now can think clearer that you do now you research?
20:11:43 <Ysjoelfir> I am not sure. K has a point there, it could lead to some kind of... spiraling into a pit
20:12:43 <Watcher_2> 5
20:14:40 <Ysjoelfir> 7!
20:16:46 <Watcher_2> The 5 is because i use macrokeys and it if i change at the wrong moment to the chat i will conitue the keystrokes to the chat
20:17:07 <Watcher_2> if have changed i now that it only works on the right software
20:17:11 <Watcher_2> i hope
20:18:14 <K> we'll see.
20:18:31 <Watcher_2> now the macro dont worj
20:19:29 <Ysjoelfir> Great progress! \o/ XD
20:22:29 <Watcher_2> now my pc lags for the past 2 minutes
20:23:55 <K> it's the macros
20:24:25 <Watcher_2> yes i think that i have pressed the macro to much
20:24:28 <Ysjoelfir> Probably :P you created an endless loop!
20:25:07 <Watcher_2> not endless i have pressed it 20-40 times because i will not work
20:26:06 <Ysjoelfir> well, then you have to wait until it decides that its done :P
20:27:14 <Watcher_2> i have closed the program
20:29:11 <Ysjoelfir> doesn't neccessarily mean that it didn't start something that still persists, does it?
20:29:26 <Ysjoelfir> brb, robovac is stuck under the clothes dryer...
20:30:01 <Watcher_2> my pc do not lag anymore so i have stopt the exectuion.
20:31:01 <Ysjoelfir> ah. then its fine :D
20:31:09 <Watcher_2> but it is not working and i can't see why. i think that i now you out for a walk and look to it later. and i will to go to other system/program very soon
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20:36:18 <hsn> Ampera, do u need new fire extingusher?
20:37:44 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, the incompentent financial managers here are top class ..
20:37:54 <hsn> they are fcking the country so hard
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20:40:00 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... I found a tel number for a... whats that called now... a person you can call and ask questions regarding the ADHD stuff. I think I'll call that person later this day, when the medication stops working
20:45:17 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
20:46:40 <Ampera> hsn, just updating to FreeBSD 12.2
20:47:33 <hsn> Ampera, off topic as always ..
20:47:54 <hsn> "how bootable cd works on both i386 and arm" ?
20:47:55 <Ampera> hsn, no that's why I was in and out
20:48:00 <hsn> both have different arch
20:48:13 <Ampera> yeah but each can have compatible booting methods
20:48:13 <hsn> Ampera, i ment this ^
20:48:43 <hsn> which is .. their .. instruction jump location ?
20:48:48 <Ampera> EFI, for example, can have different executables (or maybe even dual-arch executables)
20:48:49 <hsn> first few bytes?
20:49:08 <Ampera> no it's information stored on the disc instructing the firmware what to load
20:49:41 <Ampera> which is usually standard on CDs, el torito
20:49:49 <Ampera> which is part of the ISO 9660 CD-ROM specification
20:50:13 <Ampera> or they can use a different loader tech entirely on supported systems
20:50:25 <hsn> soso Ampera ur answer is same as this guy : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38055792/is-it-possible-to-detect-the-cpu-architecture-from-machine-code/38056588 ?
20:50:29 <Ampera> some CD images also dual purpose as dd-able block storage images
20:50:45 <hsn> polyglot trampoline ^
20:50:57 <Ampera> well that has nothing to do with CD loading
20:51:23 <Ampera> but I suppose if you must have only one executable (I'm not 100% up on how ARM machines boot CDs) then that's something that could be used
20:51:31 <hsn> i mean .. how "the first code" knows which one to execute ..
20:51:40 <Ampera> the first code is your firmware
20:51:47 <Ampera> which will always be written for the target system
20:51:54 <Ampera> and without which the machine has no clue what to do with a CD
20:52:26 <hsn> i understand that part .. but bootable cd can work on various arch
20:52:39 <Ampera> that will usually adhere to some sort of boot standard, on a dual-arch CD image, likely one that either have multiple endpoints for different architectures, or two boot methods for each arch that is only looked for by the appropriate system
20:52:42 <hsn> how the machine knows .. where is the correct executable for the current arch
20:52:50 <Ampera> so for example, x86 using el torito, ARM using something else entirely
20:53:00 <hsn> el torito
20:53:02 <Ampera> As said, variety of possibilities
20:53:10 <Ampera> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Torito_(CD-ROM_standard)
20:53:14 <hsn> El Torito is a Mexican restaurant chain, consisting of 69 restaurants which are located primarily in California.
20:53:18 <Ampera> :/
20:53:22 <Ampera> not that
20:53:49 <Ampera> El Torito is the standard by which CDs are bootable. There's probably some sort of UEFI standard for CDs, I'm just not directly aware of it
20:53:54 <hsn> According to legend, the El Torito CD/DVD extension to ISO 9660 gained its name because its design originated in an El Torito restaurant in Irvine, California (33.684722°N 117.852547°W).[2] This is supported by a claim by Jack Allweiss, founder of Future Domain Inc. who states that Future Domain helped establish the standard.
20:54:17 <Ampera> Yes, hsn, I am looking at the exact same wikipedia page I just linked you
20:54:27 <hsn> reading
20:55:11 <Ampera> As far as I know, El Torito-style booting is really x86 only, but maybe someone made an extension for ARM, the problem is ARM doesn't have a unified boot standard in general
20:55:23 <Ampera> so what that dual arch CD is targeting is completely unknown
20:55:23 <hsn> so the bios is the responsible bitch
20:55:42 <Ampera> no, because only some PC-compatibles have BIOS firmwares
20:55:51 <Ampera> No ARM machine has a BIOS
20:56:10 <hsn> did u see this : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38055792/is-it-possible-to-detect-the-cpu-architecture-from-machine-code/38056588 ?
20:56:21 <Ampera> Yes, you just linked it.
20:56:28 <Ampera> It is not applicable here
20:57:01 <Ampera> Not unless there is some standard for ARM booting that just so happens to work exactly like that
20:59:47 <hsn> i see
20:59:51 <hsn> thanks for the information
21:00:37 <hsn> if i was in ur area i would give u el torintto dinner ...
21:01:07 <Ampera> There isn't an El Torito for a couple thousand miles or so
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21:21:46 <Ysjoelfir> ugh... I think I overdid the amount a bit. I'm starting to get a realy bad headache
21:23:27 <K> huh
21:30:06 <Ysjoelfir> my spouse had to take 120mg of that stuff back then. since I am simmilar in weight but much bigger I thought "playing safe" and using just 60mg will be a good bet. But I feel the effect overwhelming me, I feel... irritated by suddenly noticing so much things I just "didn't notice" normally. its very intersting on one hand, but also very... frustrating in some way.
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21:49:25 <K> can you go take a nap?
21:50:24 <Ysjoelfir> sure, if I want?
22:06:00 <Nevoness> Ysjoelfir: What kind of stuff?
22:06:07 <Ysjoelfir> huh?
22:06:25 <Nevoness> I didnt see the message before, my bouncer didnt forward it :P
22:06:34 <Ysjoelfir> oh
22:06:39 <Nevoness> Sounded like meds
22:06:54 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't get what you meant at first :D yes, meds. Medikinet
22:07:01 <Ysjoelfir> better known as Ritalin
22:07:07 <Nevoness> Oooh
22:09:13 <Ysjoelfir> tldr: mrs spouse got that some time for her ADHD, doesn't take it any londer because she doesn#t like it, but when we wanted to throw it our we decided to keep it a bit longer. now I got it in my hands again and was curious what it would do on a "normal" person, as many students seem to use that for better learning effects and whatnot. turned out, that I don't have many of the "normal persons" effects, but instead many of the "ADH
22:09:13 <Ysjoelfir> effects, which irritates me quite a bit :D
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22:09:51 <Nevoness> Hum..
22:09:57 * hsn bzzzzzzzz
22:10:35 <Nevoness> I have ADD, tho never got meds for it :P
22:11:00 <Nevoness> (And im not sad about it either, the kids that were on meds back in school ended up acting kinda weird tbh x.x)
22:11:06 <Keanu> Whoa.
22:12:29 <Ysjoelfir> I think it is a whole different story when you take it as an adult, but yes, it indeed changes your personality quite a bit. though the question is... in which direction? better or worse? and is there even a way to judge if its better or worse?
22:12:43 <Nevoness> True that, yeah
22:13:18 <Ysjoelfir> but... yeah. I'm having a very... interesting day today :D
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22:21:54 <Nevoness> Neat ^^
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22:22:39 <Ysjoelfir> kind of. though also highly irritating as I wonder if some of the things I noticed on myself several times might be an indication for another mental illness xD
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22:30:17 <hsn> ok
22:30:22 <hsn> i see why i was annoying now
22:30:25 <hsn> pre - znc thingy
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22:33:33 <hsn> hey Keanu
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22:34:39 <Ysjoelfir> Friends, I need an oppinion
22:34:49 <Nevoness> Hrm?
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22:37:36 <Ysjoelfir> I am cleaning our my lab for quite some time and it gets harder and harder to find stuff to get rid of. I think partially, because I inherited many of the things I have from my dad who died very spontaneously like.... 9 (?) years ago. Many of those things are sitting in a shelve since then, and I am pretty certain that I won't use them shortly, if ever. Though I feel bad throwing it out - eg. I have the PCB etching equipment in a
22:37:36 <Ysjoelfir> needs a hige amount of space. I haven't made my own PCBs in like.... 11 years, as professionaly made PCBs are just insanely cheap nowadays. What would you do in my position?
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22:39:07 <steve30> keep in case you need a PCB and can't wait for China
22:39:47 <Ysjoelfir> that was my argument for the last 7 years
22:39:58 <Nevoness> Tbh if you dont use it, see if there are any Maker/Hackerspaces around you, they often seek for gear and you might be able to sell it to them ^^
22:40:56 <Ysjoelfir> there is exactly one - I went there, with a whole trunk full of nice stuff, and they startet nitpicking, taking all the high valueables and send me home with all the small things - didn't even thank me...
22:41:09 <Nevoness> Well that sucks :c
22:41:22 <Ysjoelfir> yep
22:41:34 <Nevoness> Im a member of one and we always appreciate gear
22:41:47 <Nevoness> Might be because were not a very old hackerspace
22:42:18 <Ysjoelfir> like, they took the 3 tek scopes I had in there, some signal generators and a 3D printer. basically everything under 100€ they didn't even bother to look at
22:42:28 <Nevoness> Damn
22:42:34 <Nevoness> I want a scopep
22:42:38 <Nevoness> scope*
22:43:16 <Ysjoelfir> are you willing to invest some work fixing some scratching encoders?
22:43:26 <Nevoness> Lol i wouldnt care about that at all
22:43:35 <steve30> on the subject of PCBs, I've been breathing in SRBP dust this morning
22:43:44 <Nevoness> I usually fix car control units and such. A little encoder cleaning isnt a big thing
22:43:44 <Ysjoelfir> you would, as you couldn't move the trace at all ;)
22:44:00 <Ysjoelfir> SRBP?
22:44:31 <steve30> synthetic resin bonded paper
22:44:35 <Ysjoelfir> oh
22:44:46 <Ysjoelfir> We have a much nicer name for that over here. Pertinax.
22:49:57 <Ysjoelfir> Nevoness, when I go up to the roof the next time I might ask for your adress. there should still be one of those tek scopes... the good ones, with digtal readout and stuff..
22:50:08 <Nevoness> Ooh
22:50:13 <Nevoness> That would be awesome
22:50:48 <Nevoness> Im currently using a Hantek 6022BE, but quickly ran into some issues with it
22:50:53 <Nevoness> especially the software for it
22:51:50 <Ysjoelfir> keep that. its good to have a analog and a digital scope
22:52:33 <Ysjoelfir> even if the digital is not the greatest of all. some things you just can't see good on an analog one
22:52:35 <Nevoness> Yeah
22:53:05 <Nevoness> I still need to learn some more on how to use it properly. Tho buggy software doesnt help x.x
22:53:13 <Nevoness> (Its a PC osci)
22:53:30 <Ysjoelfir> I know :D (had to look it up thoug)
22:53:59 <Nevoness> I tried to use it to perfectly set the gain on my car audio amps :P
22:54:03 <Nevoness> lol.
22:54:20 <Ysjoelfir> I assume that could be hard^^
22:54:23 <Nevoness> Was a bit iffy to get that to work right
22:54:41 <Nevoness> Well i didnt want things to clip, tho ill have to repeat that again
22:54:46 <Nevoness> since my sub is sadly clipping.
22:54:53 <Nevoness> Still not sure if its the headunit or the amp
22:56:20 <Ysjoelfir> in my case its probably the speakers of my indestructible swedish tank. its distorting very noticable in the highs
22:56:40 <Nevoness> Well my car doesnt have a single stock speaker left
22:56:45 <Nevoness> out of 12
22:57:23 <Ysjoelfir> I doubt that its the radio though, as thats... this one: https://www.amazon.de/Continental-CDD7418UB-MP3-Autoradio-Bluetooth-AUX-Schwarz-Oranges-Display/dp/B00PLZ3WX6
22:58:13 <Nevoness> Uhh that radio has a quite sad amplifier IC
22:58:28 <Nevoness> Especially for that insane price
22:59:50 <Ysjoelfir> Does it? I didn't look into it. I didn't buy it for that price though, I paid... I think 150. Wanted this one because of the retro look, a modern one just doesn't fit into a 1998s car imho. I want to replace the speakers in the tank some time, but right now I have to stay focused on some other issues, like.... the thermostat being open constantly and something is rattling in the front right wheel area
23:02:59 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about the Blaupunkt Bremen SQR 46 DAB, but.... thats just a bit to expensive :P https://www.amazon.de/Blaupunkt-Bremen-Autoradio-Bluetooth-Freisprecheinrichtung-Schwarz/dp/B07XVMBKW4
23:03:34 <Nevoness> You might be able to just upgrade the audio amp IC
23:03:49 <Nevoness> they are usually some box standard TDA chips
23:04:04 <Ysjoelfir> how do you even know whats in there? :D I didn't even find any reviews when I bought it
23:04:24 <Nevoness> Most radios do
23:04:32 <Nevoness> And i modded/repaired quite a lot of headunits.
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23:04:37 <Nevoness> Its just the most common
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23:05:13 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok. I might rip that thing out of there some day and take a look.
23:08:57 <Ysjoelfir> I still wonder which speakers I might add some day... in my old Kia Picanto I had a set from Rainbow, wasn't to expensive, I think roughly 200€, 2 middle-low speakers and 2 tweeters. Sound was realy great and I enjoyed it very much.
23:09:23 <Ampera> you know you're tired when you put on some music, and then 5 minutes later think to yourself, hmm, maybe I should put on some music
23:09:28 <Ampera> while already listening to that music you just put on
23:09:35 <Ysjoelfir> but the volvo has 2 speaker positions in the dashboard which point right at the windshield. don't know if thats so ideal for tweeters
23:09:45 <Ysjoelfir> lol Ampera
23:09:49 <Ampera> it took an actually palpable amount of time to realize that's exactly what I was doing
23:13:29 * electrohead waves
23:16:41 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
23:18:36 <electrohead> Hey Mr. Fir
23:18:38 <electrohead> :p
23:18:56 <ibiza> hai
23:19:13 * electrohead starts the coffee
23:19:22 * ibiza mixes poo and wee together
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23:20:21 <electrohead> o.O
23:20:51 <electrohead> that's my cue to go put laundry away
23:22:34 <Nevoness> Hrm.
23:22:57 <Watcher_2> i will now put a test text for my macro
23:23:59 <Nevoness> Im playing with the thought to buy a Behringer UMC204HD audio interface and a decent xlr mic
23:24:08 <Nevoness> i hate shinies
23:24:09 <Nevoness> :P
23:27:20 <Nevoness> I currently just use a samson meteor; Which is already almost overkill for what i use it for
23:27:22 <Nevoness> :P
23:27:22 <hsn> ola
23:27:42 <Nevoness> Heya
23:28:23 <Watcher_2> eti e n dcer dtd
23:28:32 <Watcher_2> dat is wat de macro put out
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23:29:12 <Watcher_2> i think that i open a bug ticket
23:30:11 <rust_collector> morning?
23:30:30 <hsn> morgen
23:30:58 <rust_collector> I take that as a yes
23:31:16 <hsn> tag
23:31:22 <hsn> abden
23:31:28 <rust_collector> abend?
23:31:32 <hsn> abend
23:31:33 <hsn> yes
23:31:46 <hsn> forgive mew in germanew
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23:32:12 <hsn> ab means morning ?
23:32:14 <Lord_of_nothing_> Grüss Gott heisst das bei uns!
23:32:48 <JoePublic> ㅤ
23:33:12 <JoePublic> ㅤ
23:33:20 <Nevoness> For whatever reason Hexchat does not like those characters
23:33:21 <Nevoness> :P
23:33:36 <hsn> hello god that means with us
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23:33:51 <Watcher_2> and ICEchat also
23:33:56 <JoePublic> ㅤ
23:34:07 <Ysjoelfir> Hallo hsn, schön das du da bist. Wie geht es dir?
23:34:16 <JoePublic> ㅤ
23:34:17 <Ampera> That appears to be a control character for korean writing
23:34:23 <Ysjoelfir> Also hello to rusty and nothing and stuff
23:34:28 <Ampera> the issue is all he's doing is sending the control character
23:34:40 <K> yeah! what he said!
23:34:43 <JoePublic> ㅤㅤ
23:34:52 <rust_collector> wth?
23:35:02 <K> you heard it!
23:35:06 <JoePublic> ㅤ
23:35:19 <rust_collector> no, and that could be the issue
23:35:34 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/jwaNS2.jpg
23:35:38 <Ampera> ␇
23:35:47 <JoePublic> ㅤ
23:35:54 <Ysjoelfir> Hallo K!
23:36:00 <Ampera> JoePublic, please stop.
23:36:15 Quit: JoePublic (JoePublicX`[email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
23:38:17 <steve30> hi
23:39:07 <Ysjoelfir> Hallo steve30!
23:39:16 <steve30> hello Ysjoelfir
23:39:21 <K> stove30
23:39:28 <Ysjoelfir> löl
23:40:35 <rust_collector> I wonder if steve3K has thought about inserting a wooden shoe into his ac unit, so the ac guy can come visit again
23:42:02 <Watcher_2> the bug of my macro is a known bug: https://github.com/rivafarabi/deckboard/issues/59
23:42:21 <Ysjoelfir> maybe?
23:42:28 <Watcher_2> so i cant help it.
23:42:36 <Ysjoelfir> where would he get a wooden shoe from though? he's not from the netherlands
23:42:51 <hsn> steve3k is 100 times bigger maybe that shoes wont fit
23:43:01 <rust_collector> hsn, Grüss Gott heisst das bei uns
23:43:10 <rust_collector> I dunno? it does not look like yours
23:43:21 <hsn> halo , me no speak german rusty ..
23:43:26 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/ImRFuKh.png
23:43:41 <rust_collector> many halos to you, lol
23:44:26 <hsn> :D oh yeah i got that also when i copy pasted instead of writing manually and fix everyword before i got to final sentence
23:44:46 <hsn> as i thought .. ss would be the "wierd shaped B"
23:44:56 <hsn> so i started fixing the words
23:44:58 <rust_collector> right
23:45:54 <rust_collector> I remember they tried to stop using the ß, some time ago? but it seems like they didn't
23:46:09 <hsn> nicht i've soccer match
23:46:17 <hsn> finally this belly gonna move ..
23:46:32 <rust_collector> oh crap
23:46:57 <hsn> yup .. crap it is
23:47:23 <Ysjoelfir> we did in many words, as well as getting rid of "ph" instead of "f"
23:47:28 <rust_collector> just wait, you will feel worse than crap
23:47:33 <Ysjoelfir> but some words remain using tat stupid ß
23:47:46 <hsn> whats difference between "va" and "fa"
23:48:19 <rust_collector> the first letter?
23:48:27 <hsn> correct
23:48:34 <rust_collector> YAAY!
23:48:37 <hsn> the last letter .. as i read rtl
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23:48:50 <hsn> but i accepted ur answer bcz i like u alot
23:48:52 <Ysjoelfir> you would need to add w as well :P w = soft and... "vibrating", v = soft and hissing, f = harsh and hissing
23:49:21 <hsn> u have no harsh Ysjoelfir .. u should listen to our letters :P
23:49:47 <Ysjoelfir> your whole language sounds like you are about to kill each other while you are actually telling your spouse that she has nice boobs
23:50:03 <rust_collector> I remember having trouble getting to venlo, because there is some place called fenlo
23:50:33 Quit: Watcher_2 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
23:50:37 <Ysjoelfir> I think in dutch (hsn, Venlo is a durch city near the german border) v and f are even more simmilar
23:51:14 <rust_collector> I think it was a gay french guy who told me about that
23:51:43 <hsn> ah
23:52:08 <hsn> persian ppl .. try to read quran .. which is in arabic .. and they pronounce some different letters .. same
23:52:11 <hsn> as they cant
23:52:25 <hsn> and it change the whole sentence to opposite somtimes
23:52:32 <Ysjoelfir> lol
23:52:34 <hsn> like from "make it fast" to "make it slow"
23:52:45 <hsn> :D
23:53:02 <Ysjoelfir> hi hsn :)
23:53:15 <hsn> hi Ysjoelfir
23:53:19 <electrohead> ellellellell
23:53:23 <rust_collector> and you wonder why we bomb them...
23:53:28 <electrohead> (lol)
23:53:41 <Ysjoelfir> :P
23:53:44 <Lord_of_nothing_> what did i mis?
23:53:46 <Lord_of_nothing_> miss
23:53:49 <hsn> https://youtu.be/UqtwSZd1YyU?t=29
23:53:51 <hsn> check this
23:53:59 <hsn> he speaks about a letter
23:54:08 <Lord_of_nothing_> germans...
23:54:17 <Ysjoelfir> ew, where!?
23:54:23 <hsn> some serious bends are there
23:54:32 <Ysjoelfir> I don't understand that guy, hsn :D
23:54:43 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/9XJvIR.jpg
23:54:46 <hsn> no .. just look at right top corner
23:54:59 <hsn> thats where the letter sound come from
23:55:14 <K> huh
23:55:18 <Ysjoelfir> yikes.
23:55:28 <Ysjoelfir> but could be ok I think
23:55:33 <Ysjoelfir> as its only bent once
23:55:38 <K> how much for that bendy cable/pcb?
23:56:01 <hsn> its 0.1mm ffc
23:56:10 <K> is that a ring, or some toilet appliance?
23:56:13 <hsn> i hope
23:56:13 <hsn> :D
23:56:16 <hsn> ring
23:56:24 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/DVgnrp.jpg
23:56:28 <hsn> bulky ring xD
23:56:36 <hsn> that letter ... is :: https://youtu.be/m4riV27Gzhw?t=91
23:56:38 <Ysjoelfir> ah, I have to watch it later than, as today is the "non home office" day this week and I think my workmates would look at me with a funny face watching some guy on a youtube video^^
23:56:39 <hsn> i dont think its gonna be comfortable
23:56:40 <hsn> at all
23:56:51 <K> well, finger is not the only apendage
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23:56:57 <Ysjoelfir> lol
23:57:06 <rust_collector> just crank the volume up
23:57:09 <Ysjoelfir> But it will do its purpose I assume
23:57:18 <K> would be surprised if noone has tried to invent That kind of ring
23:57:37 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/iug8o1.jpg
23:57:39 <Ysjoelfir> but probably not so that it vibrates and lights up when its time to pray xD
23:57:46 <electrohead> lmfao
23:57:50 <hsn> K actually
23:58:00 <hsn> there is one that NBA wants to implement
23:58:05 <Ysjoelfir> hah, mr. workmade to my side just went to the toilet so I could watch :P
23:58:05 <hsn> to basket ball players
23:58:08 <K> iKnobRing
23:58:12 <Ysjoelfir> Do i even have that flap in my throat?
23:58:12 <hsn> smaller than this
23:58:15 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, its easy . just tell them guys have a break ... we have work excercise .. and challange them to pronounce it
23:58:20 <hsn> https://ouraring.com/
23:58:25 <Ysjoelfir> lol
23:58:34 <hsn> wait
23:58:38 <hsn> there is better
23:58:40 <hsn> https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Oura+Ring+2+Teardown/135207
23:58:44 <hsn> this teardown
23:59:07 <electrohead> K: then it gets hacked and hackers remotely get you off
23:59:09 <electrohead> lol
23:59:48 <K> haha
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