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51:12 <electrohead> so I'm trying to upload a check to my bank account. since I don't have google services on my phone, I can't download the app for my bank, to upload the check
51:32 <electrohead> I go to upload it via my computer, and USAA tells me "your browser needs to support java"
52:07 <electrohead> and the latest versions of chromium/chrome and firefox (to include palemoon, which is my daily driver), don't support the NAPI plugins for java
52:37 <electrohead> so essentially, I need to install/use windows, to use internet explorer, just to get java working
52:40 <electrohead> they can suck it.
52:45 <electrohead> both my bank, and microsoft
53:26 <electrohead> worse yet, I have a win7 setup in virtualbox, but I need at least service pack 1 or 2 before I update the browser
53:34 <electrohead> this is so painful
57:32 <T3sl4> report them for vulnerabilities? web java died years ago
58:29 <electrohead> a lot of people whom have USAA and run linux already brought this issue up
58:41 <electrohead> keep running into forum posts and such on the internet
58:45 <electrohead> nothing has changed in years
58:50 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.redd.it/gdf4mvizwet51.jpg
59:32 <electrohead> so cute
21:19 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
21:30 * electrohead hugs Ampera
21:47 * Ampera hugs T3sl4 too
22:02 * T3sl4 hugs electrohead too
22:10 <T3sl4> and Ampera <3
22:35 <electrohead> so after looking, there are no ATMs in my local area that support uploading cash or check funds to my account with USAA
22:38 <electrohead> heh
22:40 <electrohead> how I love being FUCKED
23:09 <electrohead> guess I need to wait on my girlfriend to get home, so I can attempt to install the god damn app on her phone
23:35 <Ampera> electrohead, if their online banking system relies on java applets I'd take my money and fucking run
23:42 <Ampera> run fast, run far
27:00 <electrohead> the only java applet is for uploading a check
27:10 <electrohead> no java for anything else on their site
27:14 <electrohead> >:|
28:04 <electrohead> I'm already planning on going out this upcoming week to find a new bank, just so I can upload funds and try to get a debt consolidation loan
30:34 <rust_collector> I remember checks. You can in theory still use them here, but you probably have to find someone old, because younger people would not have any idea of what and how they work. The last time I used one was in 1999
33:03 <rust_collector> I got one to pay for my drivers license, paid by the army. So I was told to just give it to the "dmv-person" and have her fill in the number, lol
38:10 <steve30> aww
38:12 * steve30 hugs T3sl4 
38:52 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
40:34 <coppice> rust_collector: I deal with one cheque a year. We have a power cable under our garden, and the utility has to pay us about $10 a year for the privilege. They send a cheque.
41:02 * rust_collector tries stage diving, but steve30 and T3sl4 runs away
41:28 <T3sl4> i thought the dive was you, rust_collector
41:39 <rust_collector> you mean diva?
44:34 <T3sl4> sure, lets go with that
47:53 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/AETBA18.jpg
50:04 <hsn> https://www.toradex.com/computer-on-modules/colibri-arm-family/nvidia-tegra-2
50:27 <hsn> Yummy?
50:45 <Ysjoelfir> what have I missed, besides mr. heads porn pic?
51:24 <Ampera> electrohead, if you can, go credit union
51:31 <Ampera> they're just better if you can get a nice one that's done stuff right
51:56 <Ampera> mine is awesome, they have credit cards, all sorts of loans, no fees on almost anything, and they have all the tech integration you'd want
52:20 <Ampera> They're NY only, unfortunately, as otherwise I'd recommend them, as they also have absolutely stellar in-person banking
52:52 <rust_collector> hsn, I tried one of those funny ram sticks, and it did not work
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53:58 <K> tegras are nice, but linux-with-additives solution provideded by nvidia is not that great
54:16 <K> have rather extensive experience running jetson tx2s
58:18 <Ampera> K, I've considered buying one of their nicer SBCs/devkits for use as a desktop machine
58:37 <Ampera> but that's got me concerned as it seems they can't really run mainline, and I can't just run something like archlinux ARM on it
58:40 <Ampera> it has to be their distro
01:06 <K> ye
01:26 <K> well, you could muck around and cobble something together
01:50 <K> but the os install process is quite cumbersome
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29:54 * T3sl4 burns arch's hair with hydrogen persulfate
31:07 * arch regrows hair with rogaine
31:25 * arch puts rogaine on T3sl4's face and turns him into chewbacca
31:50 * T3sl4 burns arch's hair again with joe rogaine
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55:53 <arch> is there a way to mitigate the large inrush current of a capacitor multiplied voltage doubler on the transformer secondary?
00:02 <T3sl4> yes. don't use one
01:07 <coppice> its amazing the fuse survives the inrush on a lot of systems
02:20 <arch> =(
03:32 <Polesch> Inrush current limiter?
04:50 <coppice> you can use an NTC thermistor, but there will always be resistance there wasting energy. a resistor and a relay is sometimes used.
05:25 <Polesch> Wasting energy is my specialty
08:13 <rust_collector> does this thing need to be energy efficient?
09:14 <coppice> well, if its not you need a physically big device to dissipate the waste
11:41 <arch> nah im just messing with ltspice simulations right now
11:55 <arch> and i see a HUGE inrush current on startup if there's a capacitive doubler on the output
12:54 <coppice> the inrush on a lot of equipment is huge. You can see the mains cables twitch on some equipment
13:31 <Polesch> My variac needs an NTC
13:38 <T3sl4> 100A surges are small potatoes
14:03 <rust_collector> can you use an ntc or similar thing on the primary side of the transformer? would that be better?
14:19 <Polesch> I do
14:29 <arch> im talking about DC-DC smps
14:53 <rust_collector> ok, have fun with that, lol
16:08 <rust_collector> does the high current last for enough time to be a problem?
16:24 <arch> nah, it's only for a few dozen us
16:44 <rust_collector> can you get away with smaller caps? I dunno?
16:58 <arch> this is only a simulation, so sure
17:20 <T3sl4> arch, so am i
17:42 <T3sl4> a cap with 0.1 ohm ESR charged to 12V has a short circuit peak 144A
17:49 <T3sl4> er, 120
17:58 <arch> we are all simulations
18:08 <T3sl4> (with the peak power being 144 x 10^whatever)
32:35 <coppice> I'm not a simulation. I'm a brain in a jar, fed forever with nutrients. its the rest of you that are simulations
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50:03 <jackbrown> hello
50:25 * Ysjoelfir wants to have 45 kilometers Bratwurst
50:49 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: hello
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55:11 <spark_gap> guys i could you help understand this part? https://www.aldinc.com/pdf/ALD1107.pdf
55:13 <Ysjoelfir> jackbrown: hello
55:13 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
55:24 <Ysjoelfir> spark_gap: hello
55:51 <spark_gap> Hello first of all :)
55:51 <EEVBlog> Hello there, spark_gap!
55:58 <spark_gap> datasheet says this is P-channel enhance- ment mode matched MOSFET
56:23 <spark_gap> but symbol looks more like this is N-Channel mosfet
56:24 <spark_gap> ?
56:33 <spark_gap> or i am wrong?
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00:53 <arch> NPN = not pointing IN, for transistors; for mosfets, it's the opposite. so pointing IN = N channel mosfet
01:06 <arch> it's the way i remember it
01:41 <arch> so it seems the datasheet is wrongly displaying the symbol
01:56 <arch> you are correct spark_gap. it's the datasheet's mistake
02:40 <spark_gap> thank you arch
03:42 <spark_gap> so should I trust datasheet saying this is P channel or symbol saying this is N channel :D
03:51 <spark_gap> or none of them
05:11 <arch> you could call them on that number and annoy them
05:23 <arch> they were nice enough to put a telephone and fax number
06:14 <arch> or you could fax them a picture of this: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/002/758/areyoufucking.jpg
06:36 <spark_gap> :D
07:18 <arch> the datasheet gives voltage curves in negative voltages, so it is P channel
07:27 * spark_gap sparks from joy
08:04 <spark_gap> too bad digikey only shows this one part as pin to pin compatible replacement for soviet К547КП1, I am restoring soviet reel to reel tape recorder
08:55 <arch> i mean, worst comes to worst, you can just make a DIP adapter with discrete SOT23 mosfets lol
09:31 <arch> custom pcb*
10:08 <spark_gap> but anyway, how could company release datasheet with such mistake
10:47 <arch> they have interns working for chump change
11:07 <arch> i dont think many of those interns are even from a technical background
14:05 <coppice> sourcing datasheets is a drain on resources
14:41 <T3sl4> spark_gap: it's drawn wrong because they're idiots
15:22 <T3sl4> regrettably, it's become common to show a MOSFET like it's a NPN, with the emitter pointing out (for NPN/Nch)
15:32 <T3sl4> except the emitter is a diode junction, which is what the arrow is supposed to mean
15:34 <spark_gap> lol, with cookery, cosmetology, plumber background
15:45 <coppice> it was probably drawn by someone who thinks a p-channel is something you find in a public toilet
16:10 <T3sl4> coppice, i sure hope they don't "trap" any impurities in their gate oxides
18:12 <spark_gap> datasheet also says this is rev 2.0 lol
20:20 <spark_gap> so i will send them email with that funny face attached https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/002/758/areyoufucking.jpg
22:08 <arch> naww wait
22:12 <arch> that's too much, i was joking
22:18 <arch> use the mike wazowski face
22:45 <arch> https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1561371-mike-wazowski-sulley-face-swap
30:19 <spark_gap> or angry minion meme https://www.minionsallday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Mel_Minion_01.jpeg
33:50 <arch> or this: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/022/022/tarnation.jpg
38:28 <T3sl4> ah there we go, re-fixed my theremin
39:04 <T3sl4> seems the DAC wasn't writing reliably, extending the write strobe by another clock cycle did it
39:13 <T3sl4> also, had to adjust gains in and out of it, but that's just resistors
40:37 * arch makes spooky noises near T3sl4's ears
41:18 * T3sl4 makes spooky electrical signals inside arch's brain
41:36 <arch> hey, you made me pop a boner
42:25 <rust_collector> arch, have you been watching pain olympics again?
42:59 <arch> naw, there's a tentacle in my pants
43:34 <arch> stupid sexy Cthulhu...
43:58 <arch> feels like im wearing nothing at all....nothing at all...
53:58 <T3sl4> arch: https://i.imgur.com/gjvBTUd.jpg
55:45 <arch> T3sl4, https://i.imgur.com/KWUan2a.jpg
56:44 <arch> silly engineer weebs
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51:50 <Nothing\> hey ho fambly
52:33 <rust_collector> oiyoooo
52:36 <Nothing\> i'm just designing this 555 based "pulse train generator" i found a diagram for in one of my notebooks. looks like something W2AEW would do a video on
52:57 <Nothing\> looks like it just uses steering diodes to change the duty cycle beyond what the 555 can normally do
53:27 <rust_collector> so you can get 130% duty cycle now?
53:32 <Nothing\> which makes me wonder if you could make a perfect 50/50 duty cycle astable from a 555 using diode steering
53:41 <Nothing\> rust_collector, more like 230%
53:45 <rust_collector> wow
53:59 <Nothing\> but it only works if you live in a universe with 2 dimensions of time
54:53 <Nothing\> actually speaking of impossible electronics, i should make a lambda diode IRL like i've been planning for ages
55:16 <Nothing\> they produce negative linear resistance, so the idea of negative resistance got me thinking about impossible physics
55:52 <Nothing\> like a device with that other resistance (i forget what it's called) being negative so it's always spitting out power
57:37 <Nothing\> i dunno why it's taken me so long to make one, all it is is a p-channel jfet in series with an n-channel j-fet
58:05 <Nothing\> i have some soviet era tunnel diodes i managed to scoop up on amazon i wouldn't mind trying, too
59:36 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
59:36 <Nothing\> was only I think $20 for a pack of 10 which is a lot better than $20 for 1 which is the usual price
59:40 <Ampera> <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
59:43 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
59:49 <Nothing\> heya buddy, how's it going?
59:52 <Ampera> how are you doing
59:54 <Nothing\> watcha up to?
59:58 <Ampera> great, I'm planing on buying a new guitar
00:07 <Ampera> going to the music store tomorrow to check it out
00:08 <Nothing\> i'm doing pretty good actually. i've been unusually regular this week :D
00:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, nice i used to play guitar
00:31 <Nothing\> off and on for about 10 years, though i wasn't very godo at it
00:40 <Ampera> I've only been playing proper for about a year or so
00:42 <Ampera> maybe a bit more
00:43 <Nothing\> i prefer playing keyboard, it just makes more sense to me
00:44 <Ampera> but on and off
00:50 <Nothing\> you know how to read tabs?
00:52 <Ampera> I'm just starting to get into a grove where I think I can make something out of it
00:53 <Ampera> mostly
01:04 <Ampera> but I play bass mostly
01:04 <Nothing\> i used to like playing video game music on my guitar
01:06 <Ampera> https://www.parkwaymusic.com/shop/Ibanez-Bass/p/Ibanez-SR506E---Brown-Mahogany-x35913048.htm
01:10 <Nothing\> ah right on
01:12 <Ampera> this is what I'm planning on getting
01:15 <Ampera> 6 string bass
01:19 <Nothing\> i just had a walmart style strat knockoff
01:41 <Nothing\> oooh that's nice
01:55 <Nothing\> i'd like to get a les paul some day
02:01 <Nothing\> with a nice tobacco sunburst finish
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02:14 <Nothing\> slash style (guns and roses guy)
02:27 <Nothing\> cuz i think that's the sorta guitar he plays
02:43 <Nothing\> i know he plays a les paul, i'm just not sure if it's tobacco sunburst he has for the finish
03:10 <Ampera> I'm not a fan of the sunburst finishes myself, but this guitar has a really nice looking finish
03:19 <Ampera> beautiful pronounced grain deep stain wood
03:25 <Nothing\> either that, or just a plain black finish
03:30 <Nothing\> i like black things
03:38 <Nothing\> like clothes and what not
03:41 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/572519582867390484/IMG_20190429_162628.jpg
03:47 <Ampera> This is the bass I play right now
03:51 <Ampera> which you might like in which case
03:59 <Nothing\> ah that's a thing of beauty
04:05 <Nothing\> consider yourself lucky
04:08 <Nothing\> and learn tabs
04:16 <Nothing\> unless you know sheet music
04:22 <Nothing\> in which case, ditch the tabs for that
04:41 <Ampera> I play mostly by ear myself
04:44 <Ampera> that's what's fun for me
04:52 <Nothing\> but once i learned tabs, my skills went way up cuz i was suddenly able to play just about any song i wanted to
04:56 <Nothing\> or try to play it anyways
04:59 <Ampera> and that bass is nice, but the issue is A. It's not mine, it's my dad's, B. the middle two strings are quieter than the outer two
05:08 <Ampera> which is a real problem
05:20 <Nothing\> yeah playing by ear i think is probably better in terms of the cognitive exercise it gives you
05:31 <Ampera> my issue with tabs is I don't really have many that I like
05:34 <Nothing\> hrm that's odd
05:34 <Ampera> I should probably look into that
05:41 <Nothing\> have you set the truss bar recently?
05:52 <Ampera> No, but I'm sure that's not it
05:54 <Nothing\> with the humidity and heat over the summer, the neck probably warped a tad
05:56 <Ampera> there's no buzz otherwise it's normally fine
06:09 <Ampera> the issue really is the middle two strings are higher on the bridge than the outer two, by design
06:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, look into truss bars and setting intonation
06:15 <Nothing\> thot might help
06:19 <Ampera> yeah yeah yeah I know, that's not the problem
06:23 <Ampera> I'm fairly sure
06:31 <Ampera> it's just how the strings are
06:45 <Nothing\> ah
06:49 <Nothing\> buy new strings?
06:52 <Ampera> anyways, I want my own bass regardless, because I don't want to start messing around with a bass that's not mine too much
06:56 <Ampera> tried that, not the issue
06:58 <Ampera> also tried adjusting the pickups
07:02 <Nothing\> that's a shame
07:03 <Ampera> adjusting the height of the strings on the bridge
07:19 <Ampera> it's just beyond my abilities to deal with, so I'd rather just get a new one for myself
07:23 <Ampera> since I can afford it easily at the moment
07:25 <Nothing\> that's like one of those problems that isn't a huge problem, but it's super annoying none the less because of how subtle it is
07:33 <Ampera> it's not subtle
07:35 <Nothing\> it's like me and that brightness changing thing on the tv
07:39 <Ampera> it's quite pronounced
07:53 <Ampera> it makes doing anything but playing on one string a pain in the ass
08:01 <Nothing\> subtle was a poor descriptor, i think i meant menial or trivial more than subtle
08:14 <Ampera> I've gotten it to be a bit better with DSP EQ's but it's still not usable the way I want
08:31 <Nothing\> yeah you def need a new one then
08:35 <rust_collector> sounds like you got the custom made kerry king edition
08:39 <Nothing\> heh it's too bad i didn't still play guitar
08:44 <Nothing\> we coulda got a band together
08:53 <Ampera> A band of manic men.
08:57 <Ampera> sort of
09:07 <Ampera> we could be the new king crimson maaaan
09:13 <Nothing\> yeah dude
09:28 <Nothing\> in the court of the crimson dings
09:33 <Ampera> hah
09:43 <Ampera> I wanted a 6 string anyways over the 4 string I have
09:52 <Ampera> as I like playing lead parts on bass and having a bigger range I think will really help with that
09:52 <Nothing\> man, you ever see a pic of robert fripp?
09:55 <Ampera> also chords
09:56 <Nothing\> he's weird looking
09:57 <Ampera> I've seen him in person
10:03 <Nothing\> no shit? that's awesome
10:10 <Nothing\> i'd love to see them live
10:12 <Ampera> saw King Crimson live in concert a year or two ago
10:18 <Nothing\> or pink floyd
10:22 <Ampera> with my grandfather, fucked my hearing mad, but it was so good
10:26 <Nothing\> even though roger waters is probably gonna die soon
10:31 <Nothing\> he's so old by now
10:42 <arch> is the 555 timer's output at high impedance when it's not receiving Vcc?
10:46 <Nothing\> Ampera, totally worth it imo
10:59 <Nothing\> arch, that's a good question
11:02 <Nothing\> i don't believe it is
11:10 <Nothing\> because it can sink current as well as sourcing it
11:19 <arch> looking at the schematic, it appears it is at high impedance? here, lemme show you
11:19 <Nothing\> so any current going in will go in unimpeded
11:48 <Nothing\> arch, like if you hook an LED to it backwards, it will sink the current through the LED and still light it up
12:02 <Nothing\> so my educated guess would be that it's not very high impedance
12:02 <arch> huh wtf, two different schematics for two different 555 timer models from different manufacturers
12:14 <Nothing\> arch, one is a simplified diagram
12:18 <Nothing\> the other is more detailed
12:23 <Nothing\> usually, anyways
12:34 <Nothing\> hold on arch
12:39 <Nothing\> i have something that might help
13:07 <arch> https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm555.pdf
13:23 <Nothing\> hrm this isn't a very accurate representation either
13:28 <Nothing\> but it might help, who knows
13:30 <Nothing\> https://tinyurl.com/yxkausd3
13:37 <arch> im looking at the schematic diagram on TI 555 timer
13:48 <Nothing\> oh okay
14:00 <Nothing\> i believe that's got a totem pole output
14:18 <arch> Q24 is being pulled up to Vcc, so it's OFF, therefore output should be high impedance
14:27 <arch> woops
14:31 <Nothing\> yeah arch that first diagram is a more accurate representation of it
14:31 <arch> i forgot it doesnt have vcc
14:43 <Nothing\> but no, i don't believe it is high impedance
14:45 <arch> so it should be in LOW impedance state
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14:57 <Nothing\> arch, what makes you think that?
15:19 <arch> Q24 should see 0V when Vcc is not present, correct?
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15:23 <arch> Q24 is a PNP tran
15:49 <Nothing\> yeah the current from the output can go through Q24
15:54 <Nothing\> bypassing the totem pole output
15:56 <arch> so if i apply a positive voltage at pin 3, the 555 is in effect gonna pull it DOWN
16:05 <Nothing\> nah
16:23 <Nothing\> the effect will be the chip will sink the current coming from said pin
16:23 <arch> that's what the simulation in ltspice is showing
16:39 <Nothing\> so say if you have an LED connected to the output backwards, right
16:43 <arch> yeah thats what i mean
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16:54 <Nothing\> it'll still work cuz the chip will be taking in the current from the LED
17:00 <arch> yea, thats what i mean
17:01 <Nothing\> so, not very high impedance
17:07 <arch> so it would be low impedance on pin 3
17:22 <Nothing\> right
17:26 <Nothing\> now you're on the trolly
17:36 <arch> cool
17:51 <Nothing\> heh i was just talking about 555s myself a little bit ago
18:34 <arch> im making a PCB for an amazonbasics thermal laminator, to control a relay for the motor
18:36 <Nothing\> i'm designing this "pulse train generator" i found in one of my notebooks. seems to use steering diodes to get the duty cycle to an even 50/50 which the 555 can't do normally
18:43 <arch> so i can make copperclad PCBs using it
18:49 <arch> well, toner transfer
18:54 * electrohead solders all of Nothing\'s 555 timers together, and hides
19:02 <Nothing\> lol electrohead
19:27 <Nothing\> electrohead, i always thought a better "prank" would be to run a 9v battery along the pins of all of somebody's 7400 chips
19:50 <arch> ok, lemme see what the resistance is using my multimeter, between pin 3 and ground of the 555
19:51 <Nothing\> the 4000s can handle VCC up to like 28v, but the 7400s need almost exactly 5v for some reason. it's annoying
20:48 <Nothing\> arch, neat thing i found is if you check the resistance between, i think it was VCC and ground, you'll get around 15k. that is 5k + 5k + 5k
21:00 <Nothing\> although my 555s were closer to 18k
21:23 <arch> im seeing high resistance value of 6Meg
21:31 <arch> so i suppose my hypothesis was wrong
21:41 <Nothing\> but it wound up being good for diagnostic purposes cuz i had a couple of chips that crapped out and i checked the resistance from VCC to ground and was only getting like 500 ohms so i knew they were buggered
22:02 <Nothing\> arch, you have to keep in mind there are also protection diodes in the chip as well
22:11 <Nothing\> so you may well be reading one of those
22:25 <arch> yep i see 15.05k between gnd and vcc
22:29 <Nothing\> it's not as straight forward as one would think measuring the resistance of a chip
22:34 <Nothing\> arch, nice
22:49 <Nothing\> i'm pretty sure mine are fake chips, hence the 18k
23:00 <arch> you have the 666 timer, designed by satan himself
23:23 <Nothing\> but with chips most of the time, it's not so much about the absolute value of the resistance but rather the value relative to other resistors.
23:27 <arch> there's also a 999 timer, designed by a german scientist
23:28 <Nothing\> lol arch
23:55 <Nothing\> well, hans camenzind claims the 555 thing had nothing to do with the 3 5k resistors
24:05 <Nothing\> (the guy who designed the chip)
24:10 <Nothing\> but i think it's bullshit
24:16 <Nothing\> it's too much of a coincidence
24:42 <arch> probably is a good compromise between too slow or fast of turn ons for the transistors
24:47 <arch> power savings i guess
24:50 <Nothing\> arch: so how long you been into electronics for?
24:59 <Nothing\> i've been doing for about 3 years myself off and on
25:19 <Nothing\> but even when i'm not building stuff, i'm always reading about something
25:30 <arch> tbh, i've been a hobbyist since i was a kid, but seriously speaking, i would say 3 years. my first project was a TL494 based flyback smps that T3sl4 helped me with. it worked first try
25:55 <Nothing\> i didn't know you could make an SMPS from a TL494
26:06 <Nothing\> i've got about a million and a half of those things but never used em for anything
26:14 <arch> Tl494 is a very common chip, almost as much as UC3843 for smps
26:34 <Nothing\> most of my chips are 7400, 4000 and LM series
26:37 <arch> but these days you dont find TL494 too much. SG3525 is still going strong
26:58 <Nothing\> i'd share a list, but i haven't updated it in forever
27:10 <electrohead> Nothing\: a few capacitors and diodes, and you have a simple voltage multiplier; but, that's just a tiny bit more than a 'prank'
27:13 <electrohead> lol
27:30 <Nothing\> haha yeah, there's another thing i'd like to build actually
27:37 <Nothing\> not too complicated
28:04 <Nothing\> i've read anecdotes about students in labs charging caps to like 400v then tossing them to their lab partner
28:11 <Nothing\> like, literally tossing it to them
29:03 <arch> naw thats fucked up. use disposable cameras. more fun to unsuspecting victims
29:04 <Nothing\> that's the thing, i always wondered just how overblown the dangers of high voltage capacitors is
29:26 <Nothing\> arch, heh i used to use the piezo mechanism from old lighters
29:38 <Nothing\> those would give you a good jolt that'd go up your arm
29:56 <arch> just ask your buddy to open up a disposable camera with a metal screwdriver. if the shock doesn't startle them, the loud spark and BANG of a discharging cap is sure to make them jump
30:13 <Nothing\> lol
30:57 <Nothing\> i remember once i put 9v batteries in series one at a time and then touch them until i could feel the current
31:06 <Nothing\> i didnt feel anything until around 60v or so
31:37 <Nothing\> probably a bit more considering they were fresh batteries
32:20 <Nothing\> you guys ever see big clive's video with the tingle-tron
32:45 <electrohead> the tingle-tron?
32:46 <electrohead> hahaha
33:16 <Nothing\> it was basically just a bunch of resistors in series connected to a pot or something to control the voltage
33:23 <electrohead> and, the first time I ever got shocked was when I took apart a disposable camera, I was only like, 7 or 8 years old? if that
33:24 <Nothing\> then an electrode for each hand
33:30 <electrohead> put a hole in my thumb, heh
33:39 <electrohead> oh oh, actually yes, I do remember that
33:54 <electrohead> my favorite video of his was that doll thing with the firework in the ass
33:55 <electrohead> lmfao
34:07 <electrohead> and it set off his smoke detector
34:09 <Nothing\> electrohead, for me it was when i took the globe part off of one of those plasma globes. inside it's basically like a lightbulb socket and for some reason i stuck my finger in it while it was plugged in
34:17 <Nothing\> that gave me quite a jolt
34:30 <Nothing\> but other than that, i've never really been electrocuted accidentally
35:03 <Nothing\> lol i never saw the one with the doll
35:22 <Nothing\> man, i have such a white person problem
36:20 <Nothing\> i have these cases to hold my nintendo switch games, hold 4 a piece and i had 2 which was perfect cuz i had 9 games so i could keep 8 in the cases and 1 in the machine
36:34 <Nothing\> but then i went and bought another game the other day, so now i have nowhere to put that
36:45 <Nothing\> nowhere convenient anyways
37:24 <Nothing\> i used to just keep em all in the same game case before i got the 4 pack cases for them. maybe i'll go back to doing that.
38:18 <Nothing\> heh funny thing about nintendo switch cartridges. They're literally the worst tasting games ever made.
38:43 <electrohead> heh, I got close to 10K through my arm thanks to one of those. the flyback wasn't properly isolated, and it was pure chinesium
38:45 <Nothing\> cuz nintendo puts bitrex on them to keep kids from eating them or something so they taste terrible
39:34 <Nothing\> electrohead, that musta felt nice
39:55 <Nothing\> bah
40:01 <Nothing\> i'm such a pedant
40:08 <electrohead> my arm tried to pull towards the casing of the switch, but since I had one had behind my back, all I got was a jolt and a half
40:18 <Nothing\> it bothers me that this circuit simulator i use lists diodes under active parts, when they're passive
40:43 <Nothing\> yeah i've never had it where it affected my muscles like that
42:10 * Ampera hugs electrohead
42:16 <Ampera> <3
43:48 * electrohead hugs Ampera
44:01 <Ampera> how are you fren?
44:02 <electrohead> Nothing\: yeah that sucked, I clearly remember that incident, heh
44:20 <electrohead> I'm doing alright, hanging in there
44:21 <electrohead> how about you?
44:34 <Ampera> Nice, was looking into buying a new guitar
44:40 <Ampera> did I show you it?
44:50 <Nothing\> i think it's time to vape some shatter
44:59 <Nothing\> oh yeah i got a vape pen for shatter the other day
45:04 <Nothing\> such a great investment
45:10 <electrohead> smoke some for me :P
45:17 <electrohead> Ampera: no you haven't, what make and model?
45:23 <Ampera> one
45:24 <Ampera> sec
45:27 <Nothing\> before that i'd just smoke it on top of a pile of ash, but that was so much weaker and relaly hard on my lungs
45:29 <Ampera> on the toilet
45:57 <Nothing\> since i bought a proper pen, i haven't needed my inhaler anymore, i'm not hacking shit up, i don't have breathing problems anymore
46:08 <Nothing\> plus i'm using 50-100% less shatter
46:08 <electrohead> try to stop all together :P
46:42 <Ampera> electrohead, https://www.parkwaymusic.com/shop/Ibanez-Bass/p/Ibanez-SR506E---Brown-Mahogany-x35913048.htm
46:45 <Nothing\> and i don't have to buy weed to smoke my shatter with, which i don't have to do anymore
47:07 <Nothing\> so it was a good investment for $50 for the pen plus 5 coils
47:24 <Ampera> gonna head to the music store tomorrow to try it out
47:24 <electrohead> Ampera: ok, that's a sexy bass :D
47:29 <Ampera> haha
47:38 <Ampera> it looks really really nice
47:55 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol i just picture you doing the scene from wayne's world where garth plays the drums
48:02 <Ampera> never seen it
48:03 <Nothing\> in the music shop
48:07 <Nothing\> WHAT?!
48:11 <Nothing\> WATCH IT!
48:15 <Nothing\> NOW!
48:16 <Ampera> no
48:18 <Nothing\> it's a classic
48:37 <Nothing\> one of the few good movies Lorne Michaels made based on a saturday night live skit
48:38 <Ampera> not on netflix, don't care
48:43 <Nothing\> that and coneheads
49:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, dude this was mike meyers back when he was actually funny
49:24 <Ampera> who?
49:46 <Nothing\> the guy who always does a scottish voice for all of his cartoon characters
49:52 <Nothing\> like shrek
50:03 <Ampera> who?
50:09 <Nothing\> or the father in so i married an axe murderer
50:15 <Ampera> never seen it
50:16 <Nothing\> which is another good movie before he sold out
50:29 <Nothing\> these are movies from the mid-90's
50:33 <Nothing\> so a bit before your time
50:39 <Nothing\> damn kids and your music
50:53 <Ampera> most of my movies in my collection are older than that
51:04 <Ampera> it's a small collection though
51:05 <Nothing\> in that case
51:10 <Nothing\> check out dr strangelove
51:12 <Ampera> most of my stuff is 80's, 70's, and 60's
51:13 <Ampera> who
51:21 <Nothing\> it's black and white, but it's a brilliant movie
51:33 <Ampera> black is fine but I don't like white
52:24 <Nothing\> it's a movie from the 50's or maybe 60's about a military commander who loses his mind and orders the crew of a B-52 to drop a nuke on Russia
52:38 <Nothing\> and nobody can get through to them to cancel the order
52:56 <Nothing\> it's done in the style of a comedy
53:02 <Nothing\> stanley kubrick, too
53:06 <Nothing\> so you can't go wrong
53:16 <Nothing\> and peter sellers
53:40 <Nothing\> who pioneered the whole technique of playing multiple characters in the same movie
53:54 <Nothing\> and did it well in this
54:13 <Nothing\> trust me, you know how i feel about movies. if i say a movie's good, it's extraordinary.
54:34 <Ampera> you remind me of jspiros now
08:27 <rust_collector> the great dictator was a good film
37:11 <coppice> yeah, but he hasn't made any good stuff recently
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44:12 <Nothing\> man the battery in this cannabis vape pen is so tiny
44:23 <Nothing\> i only get enough charge for no more than 10 hits
44:38 <Nothing\> not surprising, the unit's just over 1cm wide
44:46 <rust_collector> weeeellll. maybe yu should do something abou tit?
45:32 <rust_collector> 18650 and tape. it will work
45:36 <Nothing\> you mean like rip the battery out and connect it to my bench top power supply instead?
45:45 <rust_collector> or that
45:52 <Nothing\> lol
46:14 <Nothing\> well it was only $35 so i guess that's where the cost went
46:25 <rust_collector> only
46:41 <Nothing\> cuz otherwise it's just like a tiny version of the $70 model, minus the magnets to keep everything together
46:55 <Nothing\> mine uses regular threading instead of magnets
47:21 <rust_collector> threads tend to work very well to keep things together, even if magnets are fun
47:40 <Nothing\> rust_collector, considering a desktop vaporizer like a volcano costs several hundred, it's a good deal.
48:10 <rust_collector> sure, and if you compare it to something else, it is very very cheap
48:13 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i tried the magnet one and they worked surprisingly well for something so gimmicky
48:45 <rust_collector> sure, I am just saying threads are ok also. even if they are not fun
48:52 <Nothing\> rust_collector, well even other pens, the next cheapest ones were easily twice as much
49:17 <rust_collector> well...
49:23 <Nothing\> and the only difference was a larger battery
49:43 <rust_collector> so, it uses a single cell?
49:51 <Nothing\> actually my model's nice cuz it has a voltage/temperature control on it, where the magnet one doesnt'
50:01 <Nothing\> yup, just one cell
50:10 <rust_collector> sounds very hackable to me
50:14 <Nothing\> it's not very large at all, the pen that is
50:28 <Nothing\> yeah but you can't get the battery out without destroying it
51:11 <rust_collector> you would sort of have to destroy the battery part anyway, because it does not have enough room for a proper battery
51:28 <Nothing\> no i mean you'd have to destroy the pen
51:32 <rust_collector> maybe this is why you need a 3d printer
51:40 <rust_collector> oh really?
51:42 <Nothing\> it's not meant to be taken apart easily
51:44 <Nothing\> yeha
51:44 * electrohead peeks in
51:50 <rust_collector> well, no, probably not
51:52 <Nothing\> heya electrohead
52:00 * Nothing\ hugs electrohead <<3
52:12 * electrohead hugs back
53:12 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i always half wondered how feasible it would be to dissolve a buncha shatter in some ejuice and vape it out of an ecig
53:24 <Nothing\> but the vape temps are probably diiferent
53:53 <rust_collector> mr head can probably show you how to use an old pentium 4 desktop and an arduino mega and a raspberry pi4, and a pair of those esp things, to drip your... substance... on the heater...I mean cooler, and have it blow clouds in your direction
54:40 <rust_collector> Yeah, I dunno? would it even dissolve?
06:50 <Nothing\> haha that's a clever idea
07:15 <Nothing\> i've seen videos of turning old CPUs into hand warmers, just use the same principle
07:41 <Nothing\> then do your dabs right off of the die
08:12 <Nothing\> as i know at least my old AMD Athlon and Thunderbird both had the die exposed
09:33 <Nothing\> yeah, i just read real quick that the temperature people use to do dabs of shatter is 550 to 750 degrees farenheit
10:27 <rust_collector> so, 320c or so
10:33 <Nothing\> or 285 to 400 centigrade
10:36 <Nothing\> yup
10:48 <rust_collector> but... what do they mix it with?
11:11 <Nothing\> nothing, it's just a cannabis extract
11:15 <rust_collector> oh
11:15 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:19 <rust_collector> hi
11:32 <Nothing\> usualy a distillate, like they'll distill the oils and thc and all that out of the plant itself
11:43 <rust_collector> so it is more or less oil squeezed out of
11:45 <rust_collector> ok
11:49 <Nothing\> or they'll do an extract with something like propane or butane
12:07 <MrMobodies> Just on the phone getting the confirmation ID for someone, forget to disable windows updates, in the middle of typing it out and it shut down to update.
12:09 <Nothing\> yeah the texture depends on the method of extraction
12:19 <Nothing\> read shatter is sorta like silly putty
12:29 <MrMobodies> butane gas
12:37 <Nothing\> it's real gummy, but not sticky and you can mould it and what not
12:52 <Nothing\> but if you pull of it quickly it'll shatter like silly putty does
12:54 <rust_collector> add funny colours to it?
12:57 <Nothing\> hence the name
12:58 <rust_collector> make figures
13:03 <MrMobodies> I like the smell butane
13:20 <Nothing\> nope, nothing like that. it's usually a honey color
13:33 <rust_collector> add food colouring
13:39 <Nothing\> heh
13:42 <rust_collector> should be fun
13:48 <Nothing\> blue shatter
13:57 <rust_collector> make it glow in the dark, so you can find it
14:16 <Nothing\> i was thinking about getting a fluorescent tattoo
14:37 <Nothing\> i got the idea when i was playing with fluorescent dye
14:47 <Nothing\> figured it shouldn't be too hard
14:48 <MrMobodies> what a great idea, people can see you in the dark.
15:27 <Nothing\> MrMobodies, only if they have a UV light
15:57 <Nothing\> lol i keep failing the autocomplete on your name MrMobodies cuz i try to spell it mrnobodies
17:02 <MrMobodies> oh uv light silly me
17:15 <MrMobodies> I like that though my nobodies
18:52 <MrMobodies> I heard on the news they going to lock down Essex
19:04 <rust_collector> I still think I should find one of those cheapo dmms, and glue it to my bench, so I have a bench meter
19:24 <MrMobodies> literally a bench meter
19:25 <rust_collector> well, that is great! they should have done that a long time ago
19:27 <rust_collector> yes
19:44 <MrMobodies> Anybody been to Essex in England?
19:51 <MrMobodies> and Romford
19:51 <rust_collector> I have a little shelf over my desk. I could glue it under that
20:11 <MrMobodies> putting shelves under desks seems useful
20:19 <MrMobodies> especially for wiring and plug sockets
20:25 <rust_collector> nope. I was in england once, but I never went outside the fence, so they said I was still in france
21:51 <rust_collector> I wonder when you people will ban battery powered chainsaws over there
22:16 <MrMobodies> At least with a petrol one you can hear it coming
22:43 <rust_collector> yes, and you have to start it, which takes a little bit of time. the battery ones just go
23:03 <MrMobodies> joke: and they'd have a go at you.
23:08 <MrMobodies> just like that
23:14 <rust_collector> right
24:16 <rust_collector> ok, they are nowhere near the power of a big saw, but.. people are soft anyway.
24:17 <MrMobodies> but I see can it can be used to slaughter people easily
25:26 <MrMobodies> talking of soft, I don't like soft things (not sort people)
25:39 <MrMobodies> like pillows when they're too soft they flip up on the sides
25:53 <MrMobodies> and I struggle to find the right firmness
26:03 <rust_collector> they do have a ton of torque. the protective clothing you use, has a label that says that it will not stop an electric saw
26:37 <rust_collector> I think we are not made to have pillows, because if we were, we would have fat bags on the back of our head
27:32 <MrMobodies> some fat overweight people might be a bit chewy to chop up with one of those saws
28:04 <rust_collector> fat is usually easily sliced
28:34 <MrMobodies> so it is not the same as when it is cooked
28:54 <MrMobodies> I normally peel of the fat on bacon
29:03 <MrMobodies> and ribs as it seems chewy
29:54 <rust_collector> yes, but it is cut easily, it just has a weird texture when you chew on it
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35:07 <coppice> MrMobodies: I've been to Romford. Not for a long time, but I've been there
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09:33 <Halcyon> Morning
13:08 <electrohead> hey :)
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49:35 <DHess_US> Installed first NVMe SSD. Now benchmarks are faster.
56:51 <rust_collector> mornings
56:54 <rust_collector> again
57:06 <rust_collector> nvme stuff looks interesting
04:20 <Ampera> My new monitor is here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/447698094528659457/766808099168190504/20201016_185215.jpg
04:25 <Ampera> that's it on my dinner table
04:29 <Ampera> it is absolutely monstrous
07:50 <rust_collector> and if it fails some day, you can use it as part of a small plane
21:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: This interesting looking dude just crawled on me. https://t.co/FInHKxAAKT
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12:55 * electrohead hugs T3sl4
56:32 <rust_collector> mmmhf mm
56:45 <rust_collector> not much with pancakes before 5
57:04 <rust_collector> well, not much wrong with that, except that
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37:11 <rust_collector> pancakes are not bad around 9 either
37:59 <electrohead> Halcyon: "together we can fight terrorism"
37:59 <electrohead> xD
37:59 <Halcyon> :P
37:59 <Halcyon> rust_collector: Did you mix them up?
37:59 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/HDoo8Vj.jpg
37:59 <electrohead> lmfao
37:59 <electrohead> I like that, hahaha
37:59 <electrohead> hey DHess_US o/
37:59 <Halcyon> Very clever DHess_US
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37:59 <steve30> hi
37:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Alan Garfield: I've photographed an extremely rare Australis Resisticus spider on my workbench! This is a male 6.2k 2% variety. He's about a 1206 package, but 8 pins. https://t.co/hqoyIZNQ1k
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12:14 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, say something funny, or something else
12:29 <steve30> hello
12:57 <rust_collector> hi mr steve
13:35 <rust_collector> is it a good day?
14:28 <steve30> so far
14:31 <steve30> I've not been up long
15:25 <rust_collector> i got up at 9.10, so an hour ago here. mominlaw is here, I made pancakes. I am working on installing coffee
16:51 <rust_collector> then I am putting the winter tires on mominlaws car, then fixing an exhaust leak, then I have to go to mom, we are going to buy screws. I do not know why I have to be there. We are replacing a window today
17:32 <steve30> That reminds me, I should get some new tyres for my bike
18:17 <rust_collector> it is difficult to have too good tyres. do you use winter tires, or?
18:51 <steve30> I use the same ones all year round
22:38 <rust_collector> I am not sure if we could even get snowtyres for bikes when I had a bike. I guess they appeared 15 years ago, or around that time. but they were expensive, so not many people bought them. But they are pretty common now. with or without studs
23:32 <steve30> I know you can get studded tyres for bike here. They won't be common though; we don't get much snow.
23:56 <rust_collector> well, studs are useless on snow, so...
25:12 <rust_collector> it looks wrong to me, when people are riding their bikes on ice, like it was summer. i never tried, so it just seems wrong
30:33 <steve30> Even in the cold it is possible to get quite warm while exercising
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00:36 * Ysjoelfir says something funny after getting up
01:21 <Ysjoelfir> Today I learned that opening the windows and the principle of "fresh air" seems to be only a thing in germany.
01:31 <Ysjoelfir> at least according to the guardian
02:34 <T3sl4> buh
02:51 <Ysjoelfir> read yourself :P
02:52 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/30/germans-embrace-fresh-air-to-ward-off-coronavirus
03:00 <Ysjoelfir> Impact ventilation, or Stosslüften, which needs explanation for most people unfamiliar with Germany except for experts in air hygiene, involves widely opening a window in the morning and evening for at least five minutes to allow the air to circulate. Even more efficient is Querlüften, or cross ventilation, whereby all the windows in a house or apartment are opened letting stale air flow out and fresh air come in.
03:00 <Ysjoelfir> In Germany, windows are designed with sophisticated hinge technology that allows them to be opened in various directions to enable varying degrees of Lüften.
03:29 <T3sl4> oh, those sophisticated germans
03:37 <Ysjoelfir> yeah. we are imba!
03:48 <Ysjoelfir> (do MMORPG people still say that word?)
04:46 <T3sl4> beats me
06:39 <Ysjoelfir> so, T3sl4, how often in the last 10 years did you open your windows to get fresh air inside? (opening it to receive letters, get food, talk to people outside or fleeing naked through the window because the husband of your affair entered the sleeping room doesn't count) a) once or less. b) 1 to 3 times. c) 3 to 10 times.
07:06 <T3sl4> they're open pretty much all the time in summer...
07:12 <Ysjoelfir> :O
07:17 <Ysjoelfir> you german bastard
09:05 <Ysjoelfir> seriously, I had a good laugh when I read that article this morning. They write that as if every nation worldwide seems to not know that a window can be opened and that fresh air is nice.
09:33 <Ysjoelfir> well, except we germans with our sophisticated window hinges
10:30 * T3sl4 wonders what strange double-jointed hinges the germans have developed
11:01 <Ysjoelfir> you want me to take a pic of our window?
17:38 <T3sl4> it wasn't that much of a wonder :P
20:28 <Ysjoelfir> Now I already made a very sophisticated video about our sophisticated german windows for you!
20:29 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bAzB0tWoOUQEg5LIU0F6VKnpLU2eyE7z/view?usp=sharing
23:25 <T3sl4> :D
23:46 <T3sl4> wow, that downloaded incredibly fast. i guess that'd be google's servers, and my 100M cable actually delivering what it says on the tin
23:55 <Ysjoelfir> xD
24:02 <steve30> Our kitchen window is like that
24:40 <T3sl4> usually we just have vertical sliding windows, or casement (swings on a vertical axis)
26:04 <Ysjoelfir> which is in its own way pretty usefull, as you can clamp stuff in between the (sliding) window and the frame. like an AC or just a few steel bars so that you can have your window open without people getting in. at least I immagine it that way :D
36:45 <rust_collector> window nerds
38:00 <rust_collector> our window is almost always a bit open.
38:39 <rust_collector> ok, time to go to mom, and watch her buy screws
41:03 <Ysjoelfir> have enjoys
45:34 Quit: Polesch ([email protected]) Connection closed
05:54 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
03:04 <T3sl4> neat, i just beat FTL by, among other things, burning the shit out of the 3rd round flagship, all rooms on fire
03:20 <T3sl4> (already got that achievement earlier, but that would be a neat time to get it)
06:21 <Ysjoelfir> I failed miserably in FTL
06:52 <Ysjoelfir> I somehow couldn't get into it, though I very much enjoyed the concept
13:24 <T3sl4> i'm not much for roguelikes, but it's good enough that i stuck with it
14:03 <T3sl4> i'm also not much for grinding precision platformers, but i'm rather good at celeste now :P
14:09 <Ysjoelfir> I'm... somehow into Rimworld "recently" (= for like... 420 hours of ingame time according to steam)
14:17 <T3sl4> hah
18:53 <Ysjoelfir> oh nice! amazon offers me to trade in my old Echo Plus devices which are in prestine condition and pay the insane amount of 4,90€ when I buy a new Echo for 98€!
19:59 <T3sl4> they aren't paying you? hrm, personal data is worth even less these days than i remember
20:14 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, its a shame
21:54 <Ysjoelfir> tbh, i don't care much if they sell my data, as I am not that kind of person that falls for personalized advertising*. I usually search exactly what I want when I want it and just don't care otherwise. I realy enjoy the benefits that add to my laziness those echo things offer me though.
27:29 <T3sl4> "you have nothing to fear if you've done nothing wrong" ;)
28:04 <Ysjoelfir> more or less, yes :P
30:05 <T3sl4> hmm, this rum + peach schnapps, isn't bad with a bit of pickled ginger juice in it
30:48 <T3sl4> (sushi style pickled ginger, it's more sweet than sour, so the "brine" is... not terrible to mix with, i think)
32:12 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds very nice indeed
34:20 <T3sl4> i pick up the peach-ginger green? tea from time to time, it's pretty good
34:38 <T3sl4> kinda same idea here, but alcoholed rather than teaed ;)
34:49 * Ysjoelfir is enjoying black tea wich sugar and milk right now :P
36:48 <T3sl4> :)
44:26 * Ysjoelfir is done.
44:28 * Ysjoelfir wants more
45:26 * T3sl4 points the coffee hose at Ysjoelfir
45:32 <Ysjoelfir> ew, cofffee
47:39 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/ldda5t3
48:47 <Ysjoelfir> lol
48:51 <Ysjoelfir> "one cheese"
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51:23 <T3sl4> the perfect accompaniment to tea
02:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Banana for scale 🍌📏: Wow https://t.co/2WOsxKSWWl
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41:30 <Ysjoelfir> ^So... now I have the sixth PSU with a different voltage on my PC Desk -.- This is getting annoying. I think I'll develop a multi voltage PSU for all those. 19V 1A for Monitor 3, 24V 1A for the Scanner, 48V ~0A for the microphone, 5V many amps for several things, 12V 2A for the USB hub and 6V 1A for the phone. great.
53:51 <electrohead> o/
53:59 <rust_collector> have you checked if the devices have a usable voltage range? maybe some of them are ok with 12v, even if they came with a 14.39v supply?
54:19 <rust_collector> ooiooo mr head
54:57 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't try, but before I built that I'll try it. at least the phone should be ok with 6V.
55:00 <Ysjoelfir> erm, 5V
55:04 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi mr head
55:36 <Ysjoelfir> and cu later all, have to go to get a HDMI to Display Port cable, since that stupid GPU only has 3 DP and 1 HDMI instead of the more regular 2/2 configuration ._.
56:11 <rust_collector> I had a little "pretend nuc" that did work fine, but after some time, it started to hang, and act weird. It turns out it had a 12v supply, but it wanted 19 something.
57:10 <rust_collector> ok, I am going to see if I can get a window into the hole in the wall
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