// #eevblog — 2020-10-12
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00:01:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Ah, that time I tried to shoot a single take 30min video with like 5 different segments and changing t-shirts between camera pans. It seemed like a good idea at the time... https://t.co/mhGwbUPGoW
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00:20:05 <rust_collector> heeeey-o
00:48:39 <steve30> hi
00:55:30 <rust_collector> hi mr steve.
00:55:46 <rust_collector> is anything happening over there?
00:56:59 <steve30> not much
00:57:28 <rust_collector> I don't like sundays. it is such a useless day.
00:58:42 <rust_collector> weather is nice today, so I might go outside or something
00:58:54 <steve30> I've already been out
00:58:54 <Ampera> rust_collector, you simply need to be adequately useless to enjoy it
00:59:08 <rust_collector> oh
00:59:45 <rust_collector> most of the week, I am seen as pretty useless, but I don't think I am good enough at it to enjoy a sunday
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02:14:03 <Ysjoelfir> hey misters steve, rust, current and no hair
02:14:23 <electrohead> morning/afternoon
02:15:12 <Ysjoelfir> here its afternoon, mr. no hair :)
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02:38:00 <coppice> steve30: voting for the Police, Fire, and Crime Commissioners is coming up
02:42:06 <steve30> hi Ysjoelfir
02:42:19 <steve30> coppice, it'll be interesting to see how that goes
02:45:06 <coppice> steve30: that persecute the innocent guy was for the South Yorkshire area, wasn't he?
02:45:26 <steve30> which one?
02:45:42 <coppice> the one you pointed to a few months ago
02:46:12 <steve30> oh, the one who gave an interview about policing hurt feelings?
02:46:18 <coppice> yeah
02:46:29 <steve30> That's Dr Alan Billings who is our PCC in south yorkshire
02:47:03 <coppice> "we can't investigate actual crimes. we don't even have enough resources to persecute the innocent"
02:47:51 <steve30> They had plenty of resources to arrest Piers Corbyn a month ago
02:48:22 <Ampera> You people take policing too lightly. Here we have proper polic
02:48:23 <Ampera> e
02:48:47 <Ampera> You don't even let your police execute minorities
02:49:11 <coppice> we let them persecute the majority instead
02:49:42 <Ampera> Persecution is a waste of time. We have a flawless legal system that avoids any of the nonsense required in courts.
02:49:56 <Ampera> Here, we shoot the presumed guilty. If they die, they were guilty, if they live, they are still guilty, but just hiding it,
02:50:31 <coppice> don't feel so good about it. out of 350M people, your police only eliminate a very small proportion
02:50:57 <Ampera> True, but if we can't execute, then we enslave.
02:51:28 <coppice> slavery is quite a big deal in the US. Its the last thriving area of manufacture
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03:53:01 * electrohead offers hot wings
04:16:26 * rust_collector digs a hole to put hot wings in
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04:30:58 * hsn enters the hole
04:31:05 <hsn> please burry me
04:31:09 <hsn> i dont want to live anymore
04:32:29 * rust_collector stuffs dirt back in the hole
04:34:48 * electrohead tops the dirt with blue cheese
04:35:52 * rust_collector soaks the area in bacon grease, and goes to make some coffee
04:49:47 <electrohead> lol
04:54:05 <electrohead> I asked for 'spiciest you can make the wings'
04:54:12 <electrohead> and on the receipt, it says exactly that, hahaha
04:55:54 <rust_collector> now, I am not a fan of chicken, but whyyy make it taste like spice mix? you could just order spice mix, and not have to deal with the chicken parts in there
04:56:17 <Ampera> hsn, stop that, I'm the only person permitted to be suicidally depressed in this channel.
04:56:58 <hsn> im not depressed Ampera
04:57:03 <rust_collector> yeah, hsn... go on some other channel if you want to enjoy your depression
04:57:20 <hsn> i can laugh while rusty burry me
04:57:20 <hsn> :D
04:57:21 <Ampera> hsn, oh well, there's still time.
04:57:32 <rust_collector> no, but you are in a depression, in the ground
04:57:43 <hsn> who says ..
04:57:46 <Ampera> that's a dirty joke, rust_collector
04:57:57 <rust_collector> much dirt
04:58:00 <hsn> u both are dirty
04:58:11 <hsn> and im gonna go eat my pasta .. cu
04:58:14 <hsn> :D
04:58:18 <rust_collector> well, we do not have an issue with that
04:58:22 <Ampera> Filthy, thy name is Frank
04:58:48 <Ampera> eevblog convert 400cuin to ml
04:58:48 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
04:58:59 <Ampera> another unit I forgot to add
04:59:10 <rust_collector> cuin is usually ciu, no?
04:59:15 <rust_collector> cui
04:59:35 <Ampera> no it's usually cu in, or even just cu when talking about engines
04:59:39 <rust_collector> but that should be around 66000ml
05:00:44 <Ampera> I am so tired to such a profound level, I feel like I can slip through walls
05:00:52 <rust_collector> try it!
05:01:22 <Ampera> woah it worked
05:01:28 <rust_collector> neat
05:01:34 <Ampera> I made a hole in the wall
05:01:43 <Ampera> I wonder if this works on people too
05:01:54 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315713347368648705/764907235201122324/20201011_134757.jpg
05:02:01 <rust_collector> depends on your speed, I would think
05:03:08 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315713347368648705/764910942458478642/20201011_140244.jpg
05:03:56 <rust_collector> I kike that one
05:04:10 <rust_collector> it looks very cat
05:05:09 <hsn> ah that nice air con
05:05:13 <Ampera> because he is very cat
05:05:21 <Ampera> what aircon
05:05:33 <Ampera> aircon is a myth invented by the egyptians
05:05:40 <hsn> wall aircon
05:05:44 <Ampera> fake news
05:05:47 <hsn> window type
05:05:56 <Ampera> china hoax
05:06:09 <Ampera> how is your pasta, hsn
05:06:09 <hsn> u china
05:06:17 <hsn> didnt start
05:06:25 <hsn> ur cat is supprised
05:06:36 <Ampera> I'm hungry but too tired to go cook food
05:06:42 <Ampera> guess I'll starve
05:06:44 <rust_collector> my pasta works fine... like anyone would care about that
05:06:50 <hsn> also that monopoly is behind ?
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05:07:14 <Ampera> it is
05:08:35 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mdqBCH7p7TV9umWv6
05:08:55 <Ampera> too much veg
05:09:43 <rust_collector> heh, 1x spicy
05:09:53 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rNjr9Kj8vKvrjeT1A
05:10:20 <rust_collector> what is koosa? it sounds file a finno-ugric word
05:11:01 <hsn> koosa is zuchini
05:11:18 <rust_collector> mmh
05:11:41 <hsn> mmh means yumm?
05:12:04 <hsn> brookli and spicy is nice
05:12:19 <hsn> others are meh whatever bring it
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05:13:04 <rust_collector> broccoli is great. mmh does not mean yumm
05:15:39 <hsn> yes broookli is love
05:15:49 <hsn> when u burry me
05:16:00 <rust_collector> I just did
05:16:04 <hsn> drop some
05:16:26 <rust_collector> you want acid on your grave?
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05:23:10 * Ampera whacks rust_collector over the head with a can of smoked herring
05:24:36 * rust_collector fires the S.B.I. semi automatic herring cannon at Ampera
05:29:04 <rust_collector> I wonder if jellyfish would hold up better to be shot out of a cannon if they are cooled down a bit, or do they need to be heated...
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05:43:04 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, why don't you say something to annoy hsn a bit? you know, for him, it is monday
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05:55:41 <hsn> is it monday
05:55:55 <rust_collector> see?
05:55:58 <hsn> yes its sunday at night so 4 days left
05:57:11 <rust_collector> how do you tolerate such things?
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06:11:09 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/jK3Tj5R.gifv
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06:27:22 <hsn> rust_collector, i get burried
06:27:33 <hsn> and i get awake after 4 days
06:27:34 <rust_collector> again?
06:27:50 <hsn> thats why i told u .. throw brookli at the hole
06:27:53 <hsn> so i live
06:27:58 <hsn> and come out at weekend
06:28:37 <rust_collector> hmm, broccoli and cheese
06:30:37 <hsn> yeah ?
06:30:50 <rust_collector> yes
06:30:53 <hsn> how is ur tv spark thingy btw
06:31:09 <rust_collector> it is doing great!
06:31:46 <rust_collector> I took the boards with the interesting looking parts out of it, and left the rest outside in the rain
06:32:08 <rust_collector> it should be marinated and nice my now
06:33:35 <rust_collector> it could be that I have to add some salt to it
06:35:02 <hsn> in the rain
06:35:09 <hsn> so they see other spark fellows?
06:35:32 <hsn> send some rain pl
06:35:33 <hsn> z
06:35:42 <hsn> u know what
06:35:49 <hsn> dont burry me i want some rain on me
06:35:49 <rust_collector> the dump was closed this week, so that is why it is still here
06:36:13 <hsn> ah .. in my case the dump is 10m away from the building
06:36:19 <rust_collector> i even filled the wifemobile with garbage last week. but nooo
06:36:30 <rust_collector> yea, it is not far away, but
06:36:30 <hsn> closest trash
06:37:25 <rust_collector> so, tomorrow, there is no point in going there, because all the people have saved up trash this week...
06:38:04 <rust_collector> tuesday, probably no point in going there, because people think all the people go on monday
06:38:18 <rust_collector> so they go on tuesday
06:41:23 <Ysjoelfir> mornings again mr. rust, mr. arab guy and mr. no hair :)
06:41:55 * rust_collector sploosh wax on mr heads head
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06:42:04 <hsn> i think there is no point going at all
06:42:26 <rust_collector> there is a point, because I want all the crap off my trailer
06:43:11 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
06:43:33 <Ysjoelfir> also, I wiggled on my right front wheel and it went "clackediclack". So I think I'm on to something there.
06:43:33 <hsn> am i alive ?
06:43:38 <hsn> my internet is not working
06:43:55 <hsn> chrome and firefox : DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_BAD_CONFIG
06:43:56 <rust_collector> yeah. make sure it is not just brake pads rattling around
06:44:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes you're alive mr. sand :)
06:44:25 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I'll take a look at it the next week
06:45:01 <rust_collector> well, you have disc brakes, so the wheel will not fall off, if the bearing fails completely
06:45:54 <Ysjoelfir> but it might weld itself to the axle :P
06:46:10 <rust_collector> probably not.
06:46:34 <Ysjoelfir> I heard that could happen. no idea if its probably though
06:46:42 <rust_collector> but if it does, the spindle does not really have to be all that perfect. gust grind it sort of smooth
06:47:50 <rust_collector> oh, it CAN happen, but most of the time, the balls fall out, and you just slide along on the grease until you can not make yourself drive it any more
06:48:27 <rust_collector> it might be nice and blue, and your brakes will be fucked, again.
06:48:38 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like lots of fun :D
06:49:49 <Ysjoelfir> also I thought... it could also be the... erm... connecting rod thing?
06:50:19 <rust_collector> uhm, the link to the stabilizer?
06:51:26 <rust_collector> could be any of the joints, top mount, lower arm bushings... but if it has slop in the bearing, it is probably the bearing
06:53:52 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds kind of logical.
06:54:16 <rust_collector> almost
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06:55:49 <rust_collector> i think I might buy a second trailer. one with the wheels under the bed, no on th eside like mine
06:57:26 <rust_collector> more or less just because I can use it as a bench
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06:59:49 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about getting a trailer for my bike. but otoh, building one would be more fun than buying one
07:00:42 <rust_collector> i tis pretty hard to beat the price of a bought one, but then you have a trailer that is just almost sort of like what you wanted
07:01:09 <Ysjoelfir> yep
07:01:16 <Ysjoelfir> also I can't afford a new one
07:02:21 <rust_collector> did you have a rule that said 100km/h for trailers?
07:03:36 <Ysjoelfir> yes. for 100 you need it to be self braking, having a suspension and having... that thing that it doesn't slide around when the street is uneven. that swivel joint after the connecting thingy
07:04:13 <rust_collector> hmm
07:05:47 <rust_collector> I was thinking that if you had an older bike, you probably had a cable or rod to the rear brake, which you could hook onto for the trailer brake. and as it is "active" you can even reverse with it, without that stupid overrunning crap car trailers do
07:07:45 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, that would be pretty usefull. :D that braking thing car trailers do is a reason why I - when I have to borrow a trailer - try to get one with only 80 km/h, as those usually aren't braking.
07:10:58 <rust_collector> that is why I have mine too, not because i do not need brakes, but they sit most of the time, so they never work as they should anyway
07:11:30 <Ysjoelfir> thats also an argument
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07:13:19 <rust_collector> I am just thinking about suspension things... small lightweight trailers do not handle best. and after a bike... at least I would not want something bouncing along
07:14:08 <Ysjoelfir> no, definitely not :X I have seen many single wheel ones, which were attached at the side somehow. but I don't think I would want to do something like that
07:14:19 <rust_collector> where would you attach a trailer to the bike? on the fork, like a bicycle, or on the frame?
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07:14:38 <rust_collector> swing arm, iguess
07:15:13 <Ysjoelfir> I would think that the swing would be the best position as its position relative to the street should be more or less constant while the frame would be "bouncing"
07:16:19 <rust_collector> my ural guy built a hitch for his bike, but that has a lot more stuff to attach stuff to than a regular 2 wheel bike. But because of stupid rules, the hitch was rated to 1500kg max load
07:17:31 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds plenty
07:17:44 <rust_collector> well, but the frame bouncing would on average be smoother than the wheel that is following all the bumps and holes...
07:18:01 <Ysjoelfir> thats also true.
07:18:39 <rust_collector> 1500kg is waaaay too much, but hey...
07:18:58 <rust_collector> it would actually pull 1500 kg, but.. you do not want to try to stop that
07:18:59 <Ysjoelfir> nah. just a tiny bit
07:19:03 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:21:32 <rust_collector> so, what size would you need? 70x80 or something? you can get a tent and toy lathe and stuff there
07:21:59 <rust_collector> ok, 65x90?
07:22:24 <rust_collector> 80x80, ok
07:22:44 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about enough space for 2 boxes of drinks and 2 big bags of groceries, as well as enough for maybe a tektronix scope and a tent :P
07:23:01 <rust_collector> be awkward and make air suspension for it
07:23:11 <Ysjoelfir> lol
07:24:09 <rust_collector> it is a safety feature, because you want really good shocks with air suspensions
07:25:04 <Ysjoelfir> when I had my fire truck I thought about adding air suspension to the drivers seat :P
07:25:25 <rust_collector> yes, you can use seat airbags for that little trailer
07:26:19 <rust_collector> seats have all the parts you need, except air
07:27:09 <Ysjoelfir> don't put stupid but cool ideas into my head :P
07:27:26 <rust_collector> air ride is hard to beat....
07:28:04 <Ysjoelfir> I know :P If I ever built that thing I probably do exactly that xD
07:28:16 <rust_collector> the trailer I had on my moped used volvo b20 valvesprings
07:28:24 <Ysjoelfir> lol
07:28:31 <rust_collector> it was fairly bouncy
07:28:40 <rust_collector> but the springs did ok
07:28:54 <rust_collector> no shocks at all, so that was not ideal
07:29:52 <Ysjoelfir> I immagine that to be very uncontrollable?
07:30:48 <rust_collector> it was not that bad, really, the springs are very short, so they did not launch it into the sky as much
07:31:39 <rust_collector> I think I woudl think about trailing arms, and mountainbike spring-shocks
07:32:53 <Ysjoelfir> I immagine a combination of sofa springs and maybe some gas lifter thingys from the trunk of a car could also work?
07:33:11 <rust_collector> eeh, it would probably work...
07:33:51 <rust_collector> the gas struts would wear out in no time. they are not made to work all the time
07:34:12 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... to bad. would be cheap
07:34:49 <rust_collector> hmm, what was that... uhm, I had a car with a small shock on the engine mount... but what car was that...
07:35:55 <rust_collector> I have an idea that it was a mitsubishi, but I never had one of those
07:36:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol
07:36:27 <rust_collector> it could be the -89 voyager, that had a mitsubishi engine
07:36:34 <rust_collector> don't remember
07:38:11 <hsn> gn guys
07:38:27 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 mr. sand :) enjoy your night
07:38:33 <rust_collector> night dusty guy
07:38:59 <hsn> u bboth either love my sand or
07:39:09 <hsn> love to mock me
07:39:13 <rust_collector> yes
07:39:21 <hsn> both?
07:39:23 <Ysjoelfir> both. and we also love you ^^
07:39:27 <rust_collector> aye
07:39:39 <hsn> <3 gn
07:39:45 <rust_collector> have enjoys
07:39:51 <hsn> hide the heart my wife kill me
07:40:09 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:40:14 <rust_collector> does she get sand in unmentionable parts?
07:40:24 <Ysjoelfir> bwahaha :D
07:40:29 <hsn> what the
07:40:36 <hsn> u wierd .. cya
07:40:54 <rust_collector> ok
07:41:48 <rust_collector> hsn,
07:42:36 <rust_collector> no, go to bed. you will finger it out
07:42:42 <Ysjoelfir> XD
07:45:14 <rust_collector> I can say stuff like that, because they did not want to give me a visa. bastards
07:45:37 <Ysjoelfir> who needs that?
07:45:44 <rust_collector> dunno?
07:47:59 <rust_collector> i wonder if I should use the laptop tomorrow, and blow the crap out of this desktop
07:48:09 <Ysjoelfir> hmm?
07:48:54 <rust_collector> the air intake is developing its own fur filter. i guess I should take a look indise
07:49:00 <rust_collector> or inside
07:49:28 <Ysjoelfir> I have to clean fur filters regularely :D
07:50:15 <rust_collector> it is not running very hot, so maybe I will let it run 100 more days
07:51:32 <rust_collector> uptime is 100 days and 14 hours and a bit. temp is 34°
07:51:50 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds fine for me
07:51:55 <rust_collector> yeah.
07:52:29 <rust_collector> I have seen these machines stuffed full of dust, and they tend to survive just fine
07:52:35 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of fur.. mr. cat is sitting on my lap, looking into my face and sniffing my chin. his breath smells like fish :X
07:52:43 <rust_collector> humm
07:58:02 <rust_collector> so, that crap clamp you used to have.. that thing is almost too good...
07:58:18 <rust_collector> 1mv is not a lot
07:58:26 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D so you make good use of it?
07:58:54 <rust_collector> well, It does work, yes, but it is hard to use for smaller things, you know
07:59:27 <Ysjoelfir> thats true. its only intended for high currents.
07:59:33 <rust_collector> I mean... the low range is up to 200A.
08:00:07 <Ysjoelfir> but you could wrap the wire you want to measure eg. 10 times around the clamp and get 10 times the voltage out of it
08:00:13 <rust_collector> sure
08:00:30 <rust_collector> but yes, it works fine if used for what it is supposed to be used for
08:01:08 <rust_collector> I am just messing with it on the bench here a bit, and it is hard to make much current here, lol
08:01:33 <Ysjoelfir> true^^
08:01:43 <rust_collector> it does fine on the starter cable and such
08:02:32 <rust_collector> which is what I wanted it for
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08:03:49 <Ysjoelfir> thats good :) nice to know that it helps you :D but I'm going to bed now. mrs. wife needs to be driven to work tomorrow because of public transport guys are striking.
08:04:05 <rust_collector> ooh
08:04:27 <rust_collector> say HA HA! to mrs. wife.
08:04:47 <rust_collector> well, good natta.
08:06:07 <rust_collector> OI! did you get married in secret just like that?
08:07:08 <rust_collector> mmh, I get it, I woudl probably have to marry her again, if I bought a lathe
08:07:10 <Ysjoelfir> nah. its still mrs spouse and not mrs. wife :P and she wants me to hit you for loughin ;P
08:07:19 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
08:07:21 <rust_collector> kinky
08:07:23 <Ysjoelfir> good night
08:08:04 <rust_collector> night mr sir
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08:40:42 <Halcyon> Morning all
08:40:57 <rust_collector> mornings
08:41:46 <rust_collector> heh. I think I will go shave... my face
08:46:23 <Halcyon> Why just your face?
08:50:12 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon's face
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08:56:30 <Halcyon> YAY!
08:56:32 <Halcyon> Face hugs
09:07:50 <rust_collector> because i am not used to shaving, so now I look like I am a halfway bald and wrinkly 14 year old, with blood everywhere, and I think I am ok with limiting that to my face
09:11:33 <rust_collector> something makes me want to slop some hand satanizer in my face, just for extra home alone points
09:15:44 <Halcyon> Hahah
09:16:02 <Halcyon> It would probably be easier to shave in the shower after your face gets all like and warm and wet.
09:16:12 <Halcyon> It's much less irritating on your skin
09:16:30 <rust_collector> meh, there is not much skin left... who cares
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09:17:32 <Halcyon> Heh
09:44:41 <coppice> rust_collector: I shaved properly for the first time when I was 36. Without years of scraping with a razor, and with my skin protected from the sun, my face looked like a teenager. The next morning it was bright red and sore. :)
09:45:18 <rust_collector> yes, I am looking forward to tomorrow, lol
09:46:04 <rust_collector> i do tend to shave 2 or 3 times per year. and it sucks every time
09:47:48 <coppice> I shaved a bit in my teens, as my beard first started to grow, but once it got into full growth I never shaved any more until I was 36
09:48:51 <rust_collector> I do trim it short most of the time, so I just look sort of scruffy. I just think it is one of the most boring things I can do.
09:51:16 <Halcyon> I shave every day
09:51:22 <Halcyon> I hate facial hair
09:53:01 <rust_collector> I do not have enough hate to make myself do that every damn day
09:54:28 <Halcyon> Heh
09:57:12 <coppice> oh, I always kept my beard tidy. That did mean I shaved my neck at weekly intervals, but not my face
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10:49:36 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:50:12 <Halcyon> YAY
10:50:22 <Ampera> how is cymru?
10:50:39 <Halcyon> It's not too bad, had a BBQ yesterday afternoon
10:50:51 <Ampera> nice
10:50:59 <Halcyon> How are you doing?
10:51:19 <Ampera> I have heartburn that wants to melt a hole in my trachea
10:51:19 <rust_collector> uh, are you in wales?
10:51:33 <Halcyon> Oh no
10:51:44 <Halcyon> I'm in Canberra, Ampera is just being silly
10:51:49 <rust_collector> aww
10:51:55 <Ampera> *Cambria
10:53:10 <rust_collector> My mum has a guitar that wants to cut my head off and feed squirrels with it. But I am not really worried about it, because it is a guitar, and it has no arms or legs
10:53:41 <Ampera> don't worry, rust_collector, you'll like being decapitated
10:53:49 <Ampera> it's fun, I've had it happen multiple times
10:53:59 <rust_collector> Yeah, I do not think I would mind much
11:09:58 <Halcyon> Almost got done by a sneaky mobile speed camera car on the way down
11:10:21 <Ampera> Halcyon, that would have been a fun one to explain
11:10:38 <Halcyon> I wouldn't have needed to explain it, I would have just had to pay the fine when it arrived
11:10:48 <Ampera> ah
11:10:49 <Halcyon> I think I shaved off enough speed before the detection zone
11:11:16 <Halcyon> I'll show you, it's on video
11:14:48 <Halcyon> Just uploading it...
11:25:07 <Halcyon> Gees Youtube takes ages to process
11:25:53 <rust_collector> that is how it is in canada, or wherever it was you are
11:26:18 <Halcyon> Australia
11:26:25 <Ampera> same thing
11:26:36 <Ampera> you're second rate to the UK like canada is second rate to us
11:26:51 <rust_collector> canderria? yes that was it
11:26:56 <Halcyon> Well I was about to say both Australia and Canada are like less retarded versions of the US
11:27:02 <Halcyon> But sure, we'll go with your thing :P
11:27:30 <Ampera> how can it be less retarded when you're not even allowed to have a swiss army knife
11:27:38 <Ampera> buh
11:27:54 <Halcyon> I like how that is your *only* litmus test, which has been discussed numerous times
11:28:12 <Ampera> discussed to my favor you should have added
11:28:25 <Ampera> I like my countries not authoritarian shitholes thank you
11:28:26 <rust_collector> why would people have army tools? EH!??!
11:28:30 <Halcyon> Well we did work out last time that your laws are confusing and are in some cases more restrictive than ours
11:28:38 <Ampera> no, not really
11:28:44 <Halcyon> You could literally drive from city to city and have different rules
11:28:50 <Halcyon> Yes, really.
11:28:56 <Ampera> it's NYC which is almost a national one-off
11:29:14 <Ampera> NYC might as well be a completely different state for how much it has in common with the upstate
11:29:17 <Halcyon> That was one example, I wasn't about to check every law you guys have out there
11:29:33 <Ampera> because it ain't even true, you can carry swiss army knives in NYC
11:29:35 <Ampera> I have
11:29:41 <Halcyon> FFS, this is a 26 second clip, why is it taking so long
11:29:43 <Ampera> even went into museums with one
11:29:55 <rust_collector> I wonder if you could get away with a super super ultra japan master sharpened pizza cutter...
11:29:57 <Ampera> though they had me put it into coat check for the 9/11 museum
11:30:12 <Ampera> rust_collector, yeah there really isn't much limitation on what you can have
11:30:23 <Ampera> it's largely stuff used by gangs and known criminals
11:30:37 <rust_collector> not there, down in that ca place halcyon is
11:30:42 <Ampera> not that I like those laws either, but I'd rather be able to have a swiss army knife than brass knuckles
11:30:54 <Ampera> you can't get away with a butter knife without a good reason
11:31:02 <Ampera> it's oppressive
11:31:03 <Halcyon> rust_collector: You could, as long as you don't hurt and threaten anyone with it
11:31:11 <Halcyon> Although I suspect that you would be laughed at if you tried
11:31:15 <Ampera> they can search you without warrant too
11:31:19 <Halcyon> Yep :)
11:31:26 <rust_collector> some people like that
11:31:34 <Ampera> I don't
11:31:40 <Halcyon> Which is why this is among the safest countries in the world, no riots or Karens wandering around the place.
11:31:48 <Halcyon> I quite enjoy my freedom :)
11:32:12 <Ampera> China is incredibly safe too
11:32:28 <Ampera> Whenever people tell me how great it is, that's usually the first thing they say
11:32:33 <Halcyon> As long as you're happy on them spying on their own citizens
11:32:41 <Ampera> well we do that here anyways
11:33:13 <Halcyon> Yes, but in China, they spy on everyone. In UK, AU, US, NZ they only spy on a very, VERY small number of people, and for damn good reason.
11:33:22 <Ampera> hahaha that's cute
11:33:40 <Halcyon> Well forgive me, but I do happen to have inside knowledge when it comes to this sort of thing :P
11:33:40 <rust_collector> I guess china has a much bigger budget for such things
11:33:51 <Halcyon> You can be as "anti government" as you like, you don't have the facts.
11:33:52 <Ampera> Halcyon, you didn't even know the NYPD didn't serve all of NY
11:34:02 <Halcyon> Since when? It's in the name
11:34:08 <Ampera> hahahahahaha
11:34:11 <Ampera> the NYPD servs NYC
11:34:22 <Ampera> police departments are city/town-based
11:34:25 <Halcyon> What I said was I think it's ridiculous that you have so many levels of law enforcement. It's a mess.
11:34:26 <Ampera> with county sherrifs, and then state troopers
11:34:50 <Ampera> the point being while you might have insight into Australian policing, you don't even know how police here are structured
11:34:53 <Ampera> or didn't until I told you
11:35:23 <Halcyon> Surveillance and spying activities are not handled by your police, so I don't know how you are drawing that nexus
11:35:59 <Ampera> fair enough, though snowden has also shown exactly how "not spying on you" the people who do can get
11:36:02 <rust_collector> oh, now he is doing that cop thing...arrrgh
11:36:21 <Ampera> rust_collector, he is annoying right?
11:36:26 <Halcyon> Yeh I would take what snowden released/said with a grain of salt
11:36:31 <Ampera> makes me nervous about visiting Australia
11:36:44 <Halcyon> He has access to only very high-level stuff and a lot of it was outdated by the time we saw it
11:36:58 <Ampera> outdated means it still happens
11:37:10 <Halcyon> There really weren't that many surprises in there
11:37:23 <Ampera> wiretapping without warrant was
11:37:28 <Halcyon> And, the government isn't interested or taking notice of the weird porn that you watch
11:37:31 <Ampera> despite the government's insistence that they didn't break constitutional law
11:37:40 <Halcyon> Well that's a failure in your government
11:37:43 <Ampera> the government is interested in their own financial gain
11:37:44 <Ampera> ...
11:37:51 <Ampera> what do you think we're even talking about?
11:37:56 <Halcyon> Again, I enjoy my freedom here
11:37:58 <Ampera> I'm trying to say our government has failings
11:38:04 <Halcyon> Yes it does. Big ones
11:38:06 <Ampera> I enjoy my greater freedom here
11:38:19 <Ampera> because I know I can't be arrested or fined for having a 2 inch knife I use for opening things
11:38:21 <Halcyon> That's debatable. But you live in your bubble, that's quite alright by me.
11:38:36 <Halcyon> You can't here either, as I have said, many, many times.
11:38:39 <Ampera> it's the facts, we can do more with our knives than you can
11:38:46 <Halcyon> So I am ending this discussion here.
11:38:51 <Ampera> Halcyon, you've shown me the law that says exactly that
11:39:02 <Ampera> for which you can be arrested for carrying a knife without a premeditated reason
11:39:03 <Halcyon> "Without reasonable excuse"
11:39:18 <Ampera> where does a generic, I use it to open things, fall in
11:39:26 <Ampera> that's an extention of just because
11:39:34 <Halcyon> No it's not
11:39:42 <Halcyon> But anyway, fuck this Youtube shit
11:40:05 <Ampera> Halcyon, I know you think I'm fucking around, but I am literally afraid of going to Australia because of this shit
11:40:17 <Ampera> if you have stupid laws like that I don't know what I might risk breaking
11:40:23 <Ampera> and the precedent that they exist is what scares me
11:41:24 <Halcyon> You are essentially afraid of something you don't seem to fully understand and something that will have no impact on you.
11:41:28 <Ampera> That's literally why I am getting so stupid about this, because not only am I afraid, I don't even know what's true
11:41:40 <Halcyon> Our laws are actually quite common sense and uniform across the board
11:41:43 <Ampera> I carry a swiss army knife with me every day, and would be of first instinct to bring it to Australia
11:41:45 <rust_collector> meh, they would let you know if you are getting arrested, it will be fine
11:41:57 <Ampera> and then to carry it around every day, because I enjoy having that knife as it's useful
11:42:02 <Ampera> from what you've showed me that is a criminal offense
11:42:17 <Halcyon> And our police (generally) aren't trigger happy assholes like what you guys are used to. We don't do vehicle stops with guns drawn.
11:42:33 <Ampera> It doesn't matter if it's still illegal
11:42:51 <rust_collector> well, have fun... I am going to bed
11:42:55 <rust_collector> good night
11:42:55 <Halcyon> Night rust_collector
11:43:28 <rust_collector> it is finally monday, so I can be me again
11:43:37 <Halcyon> You aren't you on the weekends?
11:43:41 <Ampera> rust_collector, are you really ever you?
11:44:53 <Ampera> Halcyon, do you guys have laws making hate speech illegal
11:45:01 <Halcyon> No idea
11:45:06 <Halcyon> Define hate speech
11:45:13 <Ampera> hateful speech, spoken or written
11:45:17 <Ampera> of any sort
11:45:20 <Halcyon> Yes but what is "hateful"
11:45:25 <Ampera> I'm asking you
11:45:41 <Halcyon> Like calling someone a fuckwit?
11:45:49 <Ampera> Saying I hate gay people, black people make me sick, I think women shouldn't be allowed to work
11:45:51 <Ampera> that kinda stuff
11:47:08 <Halcyon> " It is unlawful for a person to do any act involving a distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of any human right or fundamental freedom in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life."
11:47:41 <Ampera> Is it lawful for that to be applied to speech?
11:47:51 <Halcyon> It largely covers things like equal access to services, housing, goods etc...
11:48:15 <Ampera> We have a near identical set of laws enshrined in the civil rights acts of the 1960's
11:48:19 <Halcyon> (1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:
11:48:20 <Halcyon> (a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and
11:48:20 <Halcyon> (b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.
11:48:25 <Ampera> but it, under no circumstances, can affect speech or opinion
11:48:57 <Ampera> So it is illegal
11:49:16 <Halcyon> If the act is "reasonably likely" (which is determined by a court) to do those things.
11:49:25 <Halcyon> Simply saying "I hate blacks" is not enough
11:49:51 <Halcyon> If you were to riot and carry pitchforks, looking for black people, I would say that would be entirely different
11:50:14 <Ampera> Publishing a book stating that Germans are fucking trash would presumably then be illegal
11:50:18 <Halcyon> I think the key issue here is 99% of Australians don't give a fuck.
11:50:32 <Ampera> So it's unenforced?
11:50:46 <Halcyon> Not that it's unenforced, it just doesn't happen
11:50:48 <Ampera> and 99% don't have to, 1% is enough
11:50:58 <Ampera> nobody ever insults anyone based off who they are?
11:51:13 <Halcyon> Well that 1% of people would probably get locked up for blocking traffic more than anything
11:51:27 <Halcyon> Of course they do, but it's not enough for one or a few people to be offended
11:51:28 <Ampera> that's not what I said
11:51:58 <Ampera> The point being no law should be capable of making illegal the act of offending someone for any reason
11:52:00 <Ampera> even on a grand scale
11:52:07 <Halcyon> OK
11:52:13 <Halcyon> *shurg*
11:52:24 <Halcyon> Again, something that doesn't impact people generally
11:52:26 <Ampera> That's not that serious, though, as I imagine the enforcement would not affect me
11:52:42 <Ampera> Well there are nations such as Thailand where insulting the wrong person can land you years in prison
11:53:01 <Halcyon> Our Racial Discrimination laws are more about protecting the equal rights of everyone.
11:53:10 <Halcyon> For example, you can't be denied employment because of race
11:53:23 <Ampera> that's fine, but also often hard to enforce
11:53:25 <Ampera> we have the same laws
11:53:30 <Halcyon> Yes, it can be
11:53:32 <Ampera> it's just that ours do not cover speech
11:53:58 <Halcyon> Well the law doesn't say "speech" it says an "act".
11:54:11 <Ampera> define act
11:54:21 <Halcyon> How that is interpreted will come down to the courts and the particular thing(s) that happen
11:54:36 <Ampera> Not that vague law doesn't exist here, but that's dumb
11:54:38 <Halcyon> An act can be non-verbal or verbal or a combination. It just depends.
11:55:14 <Halcyon> I don't think it's dumb at all. It allows the court to make a determination based on the circumstances.
11:55:24 <Halcyon> Laws should be the least restrictive.
11:55:33 <Ampera> Do you have a right to trial by jury?
11:55:50 <Ampera> Vague laws are more restrictive than specific laws
11:56:03 <Ampera> it turns a, definitely illegal for these few things, into a maybe illegal for lots of things
11:56:05 <Halcyon> I'm not entirely sure how it works but Jury is the default. You can elect for a judge-only trial, but I don't know what the restrictions are.
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11:56:15 <Ampera> By the wording, saying I hate faggots, publicly in Australia, would be a crime
11:56:40 <Ampera> That's good, some nations, even modern ones, sometimes have no right to trial by jury
11:56:51 <Halcyon> Yes but would a REASONABLE PERSON be offended by that? I think you'd find a court wouldn't agree.
11:57:00 <Halcyon> Most people (including faggots) wouldn't care.
11:57:09 <Ampera> People are rarely reasonable, and often offended
11:57:36 <Halcyon> Correct, which is why the court decides what is reasonable, and they are often very relaxed when it comes to that kind of thing.
11:58:10 <Halcyon> Although a court did determine that saying "fuck" in a public place is not offensive
11:58:15 <Ampera> It's still, in writing, and in my belief, violating human rights
11:58:37 <Halcyon> That's your opinion.
11:58:40 <Ampera> Actually no
11:58:41 <Halcyon> I don't feel that way.
11:59:00 <Ampera> It's in violation of human rights, iirc, as established in the universal declaration of human rights
11:59:07 <Halcyon> I am quite happy with my human rights and how they are handled here. Never been close to even having a problem with human rights here.
11:59:50 <Ampera> I'm not worried about you having a problem
12:00:01 <Ampera> I am worried that the law could be used, some day, for political benefit
12:00:10 <Halcyon> OK
12:00:12 <Ampera> The UK is a shining example of exactly this
12:00:15 <Halcyon> I have bigger things to worry about
12:00:38 <Halcyon> I tend not to worry about distant "what if's" that might never happen
12:00:51 <Ampera> I do, everyone likes loopholes
12:01:16 <Halcyon> I would like to thing that the courts would make a fair judgement. In my experience, it's usually a little too lax
12:01:32 <Ampera> So you think more people should be locked up for their beliefs?
12:02:00 <Halcyon> No, I think more criminals should be locked up, rather than giving them 5th or 10th chances.
12:03:05 <Ampera> Halcyon, how lenient is your enforcement of religious or cultural exceptions to laws?
12:03:08 <Halcyon> Anyway, this is what too so fucking long to process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMByCy-U6gA&feature=youtu.be
12:03:24 <Halcyon> Religion really has no place in law
12:03:56 <Halcyon> There are *some* minor exceptions to some Summary Offences.
12:04:09 <Ampera> Halcyon, my point is you have religious exceptions to your prohibition of carrying blades
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12:04:18 <Halcyon> That is one example
12:04:25 <Ampera> I wonder if those might also apply to cultural, in that I could argue it is my culture to carry a knife
12:04:46 <Halcyon> You could try, but you'd be much better off saying "I use it to open boxes and packaging"
12:04:55 <Halcyon> Because that is the truth
12:05:13 <Ampera> You told me that is only acceptable in the context of having a profession doing so
12:05:21 <Halcyon> Not *only*
12:05:27 <Halcyon> I said that is one example
12:05:38 <Halcyon> I am not a chef, yet I still open boxes and cut food
12:05:38 <Ampera> So is it legal for me, you knowing why I do so, to carry a swiss army knife in Australia, in public
12:05:44 <Halcyon> Corret
12:05:47 <Halcyon> Correct
12:05:53 <Halcyon> Like I said last time
12:05:54 <Ampera> That is the first time you've ever said that
12:05:57 <Ampera> thank you
12:06:00 <Ampera> my concerns are relieved
12:06:11 <Halcyon> No, I said that last time as well. You seem to just cherry pick little bits and focus on those.
12:06:27 <Ampera> You never told me it was legal for me, in my circumstances, to do it.
12:06:39 <Ampera> I even asked you directly multiple times and you never gave me that answer
12:06:45 <Halcyon> I did say that, not in those exact words but I explained why that law wouldn't impact you.
12:06:50 <Halcyon> But you ignored me
12:06:57 <Ampera> By doing so you explained, by the wording, exactly how it would
12:07:04 <Ampera> explicitly saying "because I want to" is not a reason
12:07:04 <Halcyon> *sigh*
12:07:16 <Halcyon> Anyway... need to think about lunch
12:07:30 <Ampera> I have some frozen mussels in my freezer, I am tempted to get up and go have them
12:07:52 <Halcyon> I'm still pissed that I nearly got a speeding ticket
12:07:56 <Halcyon> Sneaky fucks
12:08:05 <Ampera> if you don't want a ticket don't speed
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12:08:24 <Halcyon> Or just pay more attention
12:08:26 <Halcyon> :P
12:08:42 <Ampera> Or move to Germany where you can have unlimited speed sections of the highway system
12:09:07 <Halcyon> The problem is, people generally have better cars in European countries
12:09:19 <Ampera> Who is Jake Booker
12:09:21 <Halcyon> Here, it's a mixture of all kinds
12:09:29 <Halcyon> It's one of my assumed identities online
12:09:43 <Ampera> Halcyon, not really, my grandmother had a tiny little shopping car, not particularly great
12:09:51 <Ampera> and ended up going over 170kph down the highway
12:10:08 <Ampera> which is honestly quite impressive
12:10:16 <Halcyon> Yehhhhhh I wouldn't trust half the cars on the road doing those kinds of speeds. When things go wrong at high speed, they go REALLY wrong.
12:10:28 <Ampera> I wonder what my car's top speed is
12:10:32 <Halcyon> No amount of air bags will save you
12:11:16 <Ampera> I have a 231cu V6 in my car
12:11:29 <Halcyon> Means nothing to me
12:11:33 <Ampera> but my car also weighs enough to turn people into a pancake
12:11:42 <Ampera> I believe it's capable of around 176bhp
12:12:03 <Ampera> yeah 170 hp at the crank
12:12:04 <Halcyon> My 4 cyl. 2.0L engine pumps out more power than most 6 cyl. Aussie cars
12:12:13 <Halcyon> What is that in kw?
12:12:22 <Ampera> 127kw
12:13:10 <Halcyon> Mines about 200 kW
12:14:27 <Ampera> yours wasn't made in 1992
12:14:54 <Halcyon> No
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12:15:09 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm off for lunch, later.
12:15:14 <Ampera> bye bye
12:55:39 <Halcyon> It is so gorgeous outside
12:56:09 * Ampera stabs Halcyon in the sternum with love
12:56:44 <Halcyon> Aw :)
12:56:59 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315713347368648705/764910942458478642/20201011_140244.jpg Halcyon
12:57:46 <Halcyon> I just sent you a picture too
12:57:51 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
12:58:12 <coppice> There are 4 cylinder 2l cars pushing out over 400HP these days. When a maker offers the same basic engine in versions from, say, 150HP to 400HP with various amounts of turbocharging and supercharging, I wonder what the relative lifetimes and reliabilities are like?
12:58:40 <Halcyon> Well, so far, those little 4-cyl pocket rockets have been quite reliable
12:58:54 <Halcyon> The tolerances on things like pistons are greater than they used to be
12:59:01 <Halcyon> At the expense of a bit more blow-by
12:59:20 <Halcyon> Looks dark at your place Ampera :P
12:59:34 <Ampera> you're just not looking hard enough
12:59:51 <Halcyon> I'm blinded by the white poodle sitting next to me
13:01:34 <Halcyon> coppice: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/447698094528659457/765030316376195102/20201012_125608.jpg
13:01:37 <Halcyon> This is what I sent to Ampera
13:02:10 <Ampera> if only you people were authoritarian enough to ban alcohol
13:02:11 <Ampera> :/
13:02:46 <Halcyon> On the contrary, we can drink from 18... even younger with parental supervision
13:03:13 <Ampera> no I mean I wish you guys made it illegal
13:03:19 <Ampera> and so did everyone else
13:03:30 <Ampera> furthermore, NY has no age of consumption laws for alcohol
13:04:24 <coppice> I don't think most places have an age of consumption law. its usually an age limit for purchasing
13:04:27 <Halcyon> Why would you want it to be illegal?
13:04:36 <Ampera> because alcohol destroys people
13:04:37 <Halcyon> coppice, I think you're right
13:04:43 <coppice> he longs to be the next Al Capone
13:04:45 <Ampera> it's a terrible substance that ruins families, and turns good people into horrible monsters
13:04:47 <Halcyon> Consumption isn't illegal, supplying it
13:04:48 <Halcyon> *is
13:05:02 <Halcyon> Ampera: Yes, if you are irresponsible with alcohol
13:05:13 <Halcyon> Same as everything else, like cars. Doesn't mean we have to ban them.
13:05:32 <Ampera> You could say the same thing about machine guns
13:05:43 <coppice> banning stuff people like usually turns into a violent disaster. controls work better
13:05:50 <Halcyon> You talk about human rights, yet you talk about banning drinking?
13:06:10 <Ampera> I'm sad poisoning alcohol supplies in the 20's didn't work as well
13:06:14 <Ampera> they should have killed more people than they did
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13:12:14 <Ampera> Halcyon, I am hungry make me food
13:12:32 <Halcyon> I did, it's ready, come and get it
13:12:50 <Ampera> what would you think if I actually managed to show up to do so
13:18:36 <Halcyon> I would love it if you did
13:18:48 <Halcyon> Oww, my laptop is actually too hot to type on, probably shouldn't have it in the sun
13:19:49 <Halcyon> My GPU is sitting at 55C, but the "slow down temperature" is 93C which is a little frightening
13:24:27 <Ampera> Best I know, modern silicon can endure well near or even in excess of 100C
13:24:38 <Ampera> so it doesn't surprise me
13:24:40 <Halcyon> It's crazy
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13:24:47 <Ampera> you're crazy
13:24:59 <Halcyon> I must be, I still like you
13:25:18 <Ampera> I took my bunny out of her cage and brought her on an adventure
13:25:23 <Ampera> I think she might have liked it
13:25:28 <Halcyon> Where did you go?
13:25:36 <Ampera> just across the room, but I had her hop back to her cage
13:25:48 <Halcyon> Aww
13:25:49 <Ampera> her cage doesn't have doors, so she's free to explore wherever she wants, but she never leaves her cage much
13:26:05 <Halcyon> It's her safe area
13:26:29 <Ampera> She did try to go into the bathroom and hide behind the toilet, but I took her out of there
13:29:38 <Halcyon> Don't want her covered in pee
13:29:51 <Halcyon> Hey, do you guys have chicken salt in the US?
13:30:09 <Ampera> yeah why wouldn't we
13:30:25 <Halcyon> *shrug* Just wondering, some people apparently have never heard of it
13:30:36 <Ampera> it's sort of like granulated broth mixed with salt
13:30:49 <Halcyon> Yeh basically
13:30:58 <Ampera> we have a popular cracker called chickin in a biskit that's flavored with it
13:31:07 <Halcyon> Oh I love those
13:31:42 <Halcyon> We have a similar product called "Chicken Crimpy" https://www.arnotts.com/products/shapes/original/chicken-crimpy-original
13:31:51 <Halcyon> I could eat a whole box (then regret it)
13:32:06 <Ampera> oh I'm hungry but I have so much food I would regret eating
13:32:19 <Ampera> I have pizzas, chicken tenders, mac and cheese
13:33:30 <Halcyon> Mmmmm junk food
13:33:33 <Ampera> some sausage and mac sounds really nice but I'd have to go cook it
13:33:46 <Halcyon> I am actually concerned for you coming here
13:33:51 <Ampera> I also have truffle flavored mac & cheese which is absolutely delicious, but a right pain in the ass to make
13:33:57 <Halcyon> It's going to be challenging to cook for you I think
13:34:16 <Ampera> if you want I can cook for you so long as your ERs can handle it
13:34:30 <Halcyon> The hospital is 15 minutes away
13:34:52 <Ampera> I'm actually half way to funding the trip over there
13:35:00 <Ampera> er, almost half way
13:35:01 <Halcyon> \o/
13:35:19 <Ampera> currently have 1600 saved up, another 200 on Thursday
13:35:38 <Halcyon> When you actually do have funding/when the borders open properly again, I need some notice so I can organise leave
13:35:51 <Ampera> well ideally I book the plane tickets in advance anyways
13:35:57 <Ampera> and I need to organize PTO as well
13:36:16 <Halcyon> Yep, anything more than a week off, I probably need a few months notice, just depends on the time of year and workload at the time
13:36:43 <Halcyon> But, I do want to spend a decent amount of time with you and take you places, like Cambria
13:37:14 <Ampera> I'm expecting at least 3 weeks to make the trip worth it
13:37:37 <Ampera> I'm shooting for june-july next year, but it all depends on when the border opens up
13:37:44 <T3sl4> nut in nut (nsfw) https://i.redd.it/747v332l3is51.jpg (not actually nsfw)
13:37:52 <Halcyon> Indeed. I will also save up for a trip somewhere like Tasmania or where ever
13:38:12 <Halcyon> Is it an Assaulted nut T3sl4 ?
13:38:13 <Halcyon> :P
13:38:14 <Ampera> In theory I have the money to do it right here right now, I just don't have the PTO (I will next year) or the freedom of passage
13:38:26 * T3sl4 nuts Halcyon in the eye
13:38:39 <Halcyon> Oww, pressure
13:38:41 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera on the <3
13:39:06 * Ampera kisses T3sl4
13:39:12 <T3sl4> <3
13:39:20 * Halcyon is jealous
13:39:32 * Ampera punches Halcyon in the face, then hugs hum
13:39:35 <Ampera> er, him
13:40:52 <Halcyon> Yeh but T3sl4 got tongue
13:41:02 * Ampera blows Halcyon happily
13:41:09 <Ampera> that better?
13:41:14 <Halcyon> Hehe tickles
13:41:19 * T3sl4 cuts Halcyon into tiny strips, deep frys them
13:41:28 <T3sl4> Halcyon likes being frenched
13:41:35 <Halcyon> With chilli and soy?
13:42:47 <Halcyon> Big Clive has said the word "spudger" about 15 times in this video already
13:42:56 <Halcyon> And only 5 minutes in
13:43:51 <Ampera> Something bad might be about to happen here
13:43:53 <Ampera> something really really bad
13:44:09 <Halcyon> Did the cat get out?
13:44:18 <Ampera> no
13:44:29 <Ampera> I might be about to go upstairs and cook some food
13:44:39 <Halcyon> OK... and that is bad because... ?
13:44:48 <Ampera> many reasons
13:44:49 <Ampera> many many reasons
13:45:00 <Halcyon> Apart from the "nutritional" content...
13:45:06 <Ampera> nutt
13:45:14 <Ampera> also dirty dishes
13:45:27 <Halcyon> This is what a dishwasher is for
13:46:13 <Ampera> my mom doesn't live here anymore
13:46:22 <Halcyon> Sexist
13:46:32 <Halcyon> Well, you'll have to step up and be the woman of the house then
13:46:43 <Ampera> fuck that
13:47:06 <Halcyon> I mean, I wouldn't want to be cleaning up after your brother either by the sounds of it
13:47:24 <Ampera> that's incest though
13:47:34 <Halcyon> What the?!
13:47:47 <Halcyon> What the hell were you thinking?
13:47:54 <Ampera> what I'm always thinking
13:47:55 <Ampera> penis
13:48:02 <Halcyon> Riiiight
13:48:16 <Halcyon> I meant talking about his bathroom habits
13:48:21 <Halcyon> He sounds like a messy fuck
13:48:34 <Ampera> that's still incest
13:48:36 <Ampera> and also hot
13:48:43 <Halcyon> I am so confused
13:48:54 <Ampera> we germans love our scat
13:48:59 * Halcyon cuddles up to T3sl4
13:49:03 <Halcyon> Yeh, so I've heard
13:49:12 <Ampera> but sadly not our incest
13:49:15 <T3sl4> cuddles? sure, if you incest
13:49:20 <Halcyon> Hahah
13:49:30 <Halcyon> I've watched South Park, I know what goes on
13:49:34 <T3sl4> Ampera, wincest
13:49:49 <Ampera> T3sl4, lincest.
13:50:04 <Halcyon> You two are fucking weird
13:50:17 <T3sl4> Halcyon is maccest
13:50:19 <Ampera> Halcyon, I would be fucking weird, but you won't let me.
13:50:33 <Halcyon> You calling me weird Ampera?
13:50:35 <Ampera> Yes.
13:50:44 <Halcyon> And when did I say no?
13:50:57 <Ampera> good point
13:51:20 <Ampera> well you are gay, not sure you'd be too attracted to me
13:51:26 <Ampera> at least not in a bit of time
13:51:49 <Halcyon> Well I like penis. More to the point is, you don't. So I don't draw attention to it.
13:52:25 <Ampera> since when did I ever say I don't like penis?
13:52:32 <Ampera> I just don't like it permanently attached to my body
13:52:35 <Ampera> inside of me is fine
13:52:36 <Halcyon> I might push the boundaries in chat, but I still have a heart.
13:52:45 <Ampera> you do?
13:52:47 <Halcyon> That's what I mean Ampera, I am talking about YOURS
13:52:48 <T3sl4> you don't like /your/ penis, admittedly a sample size of 1 is not statistically significant
13:53:11 <Halcyon> So why would I talk about things that cause you so much pain. So I refrain.
13:53:11 <Ampera> T3sl4, a physical size of 1 isn't significant either
13:53:15 <T3sl4> fortunately, a sample size of 1 isn't significant, or else i would be statistically gay
13:53:17 <Ampera> wha?
13:53:20 <Ampera> what causes me pain?
13:53:25 <Halcyon> You having one
13:53:34 <Ampera> yeah but I'm not going to melt if you mention it
13:53:42 <Halcyon> *shrug*
13:53:55 <Ampera> there's very little you could say to properly offend or hurt me
13:54:03 <Ampera> unless it's something I told you in confidence
13:54:14 <Halcyon> Well, I'd rather not take a chance either way.
13:54:16 <Ampera> I operate on the principle of, if I didn't tell you it's a secret, it's not a secret.
13:54:35 <Ampera> not that me having a penis was ever presumed to be a secret
13:54:38 <Ampera> but you get what I mean
13:54:41 <Ampera> I think
13:54:48 <Halcyon> I operate on the principle that, I just treat everything a secret, so I don't have to remember what's a secret.
13:55:07 <Ampera> anal?
13:55:16 <Halcyon> Sure :) Thank you
13:55:20 <Ampera> nice
13:55:31 <Halcyon> T3sl4 can hold the camera
13:55:45 <Ampera> no
13:55:49 * Halcyon suddenly realises why everyone else in this channel think we're weird.
13:55:51 <Ampera> he must partake
13:55:56 <Ampera> they do?
13:56:03 <Halcyon> Uhh... yes
13:56:09 <T3sl4> the only thing anal about Ampera is retentive
13:56:10 <Ampera> everyone has skeletons in their closet, we just flaunt them
13:56:21 <Halcyon> I have no skellingtons
13:56:29 <Ampera> everyone contains a skeleton, gordon
13:56:38 <Halcyon> I mean in my closet
13:56:46 <Ampera> well yeah because you've come out of the closet
13:56:53 <T3sl4> look Ampera, ropes! we can use these to hang ourselves over pits!
13:57:00 <T3sl4> wait, i might've misquoted that
13:57:02 <Ampera> HELP ME T3sl4!
13:57:36 <Ampera> fuck that was a good series
13:57:41 <Halcyon> What was?
13:57:44 <Ampera> I'm so excited for them to do more
13:57:47 <Ampera> HLVRAI
13:57:53 <Ampera> Half-Life, In VR, if the AI was self aware
13:57:53 <Halcyon> Excuse me?
13:57:57 <Halcyon> Oh
13:58:04 <Halcyon> This is a game? or... ?
13:58:10 <T3sl4> yes but actually no
13:58:13 <Ampera> It was a live action skit broadcast on Twitch (and currently on YouTube)
13:58:21 <Halcyon> Right
13:58:31 <Ampera> and it had some of the funniest improv comedy I've ever seen in a load of friends dicking around
13:58:39 <Halcyon> Literally?
13:58:43 <Ampera> Literally.
13:58:47 <Halcyon> Hmmm
13:58:47 <Ampera> It was absolutely incredible
13:59:05 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDUYLDtC5Qw&list=PLglTodSj6fQGbLTtPF_YXVJ6TKSaC3O02
13:59:13 <T3sl4> so, the troupe does improv, i don't know how many they've done in games but this was the first big hit, using some VR hacks for i think Half Life: Source
13:59:20 <Halcyon> After I finish watching Travel Man
13:59:28 <Ampera> T3sl4, it's gmod
13:59:32 <Ampera> and this is the first one they've done
13:59:34 <T3sl4> yeah that
14:00:04 <T3sl4> the illusion breaks from time to time as they're obviously using cheats, there's no consequences, and it has an improv dynamic that lacks coherency from scene to scene
14:01:33 <Ampera> It's really not meant to be much of an illusion, it's just funny
14:01:41 <T3sl4> the youtube cut does an amazing job of removing most of the behind the scenes bullshit, which their behind the scenes vids how
14:01:47 <T3sl4> show*
14:02:35 <T3sl4> like constantly spawning and culling father whatshisname just out of view, and stifling the laughter from the support team
14:02:53 <Ampera> Ah, I've only seen the youtube cut
14:02:55 <Ampera> so it's a lot more polished
14:03:16 <T3sl4> so, it really turned out well
14:03:40 <T3sl4> i suppose the way those things go is they succeed in spite of themselves to varying degrees, and this was particularly spiteful? :)
14:28:19 * T3sl4 munches some banana bread soaked in rum
14:28:54 <Halcyon> Wouldn't it go all mushy?
14:29:59 <T3sl4> i'm dipping it actually, while i sip the rest
14:31:51 <Halcyon> How is it?
14:33:31 <T3sl4> good :)
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14:51:20 <steve30> hi
14:51:27 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
14:52:51 <steve30> Halcyon, I got interviewed by Sergeant eBay on Saturday next to a police van. He was in civilian clothes though so I don't think I was under arrest :)
14:53:13 <Halcyon> ?
14:55:41 * T3sl4 pats steve30
14:57:38 <steve30> Halcyon, the youtube weirdo
14:57:42 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4
14:58:58 <Halcyon> Oh
14:59:02 <Halcyon> What did he have to say?
15:03:23 <steve30> He was at the coronavirus protest getting people's opinions
15:04:00 <Halcyon> Isn't the point of social distancing is that you don't hang out in large groups?
15:05:11 <steve30> nope :p
15:05:40 <Halcyon> Gee, I'm starting to worry about you lot in the UK... you're giving the Karen's in the US a run for their money :P
15:10:22 <T3sl4> boris is like trump but smarter and bearing a russian name
15:11:43 <Halcyon> In soviet English, Corona protests you
15:12:04 * T3sl4 nods
15:12:23 <Ampera> if we protest hard enough, maybe we can impeach covid
15:12:53 <Ampera> if not, at least we can piss off some day commuters and public servants
15:14:52 <Halcyon> :P
15:21:05 * steve30 sprinkles some coronaviruses on Halcyon
15:24:53 <Halcyon> YAY! 2 weeks off :D
15:26:40 <steve30> my asterisk crashed again
15:26:47 <Halcyon> Oh no
15:26:47 <Halcyon> :(
15:27:02 <Halcyon> What do the logs say?
15:27:33 <Ampera> *
15:27:37 <steve30> dunno, the whole machine crashed, I'll have to reboot
15:28:56 * Halcyon plays with Ampera's asterisk
15:29:51 * Ampera makes a exchange with Halcyon's modular connector
15:30:10 <Halcyon> \o/
15:30:21 <steve30> I want to go to the shops today but its forecast rain
15:30:29 <Ampera> bring an umbrella
15:30:33 <Ampera> or a poncho
15:30:35 <Halcyon> Indeed
15:30:40 <Ampera> or get wet
15:30:48 <Halcyon> All of the options
15:31:01 <Ampera> one of my favorite things to do is to talk walks in the rain, and just get wet and whatever
15:31:15 <Halcyon> :P
15:31:15 <Ampera> something pleasing about just ending up rained on
15:31:25 <Halcyon> I am going to shutup now :P
15:31:33 <Ampera> why
15:31:36 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
15:31:39 <Ampera> please keep talking
15:31:40 <Halcyon> :D
15:31:49 * Halcyon makes jokes about golden showers and such
15:31:57 <Ampera> hot
15:32:03 <Ampera> I'm not picky
15:32:05 <Halcyon> :P
15:34:32 * T3sl4 green-showers Ampera
15:34:42 <Ampera> I have just learned the single most profound thing I have ever known in my entire life
15:34:49 <Ampera> the neighborhood watch guy has a name
15:34:52 <Ampera> it's boris the burglar
15:35:10 <T3sl4> keel moose und squirrel
15:38:27 <Ampera> T3sl4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7POavqLF-fc this guy is cool, no clue if I've ever showed him to you
15:38:54 <Ampera> he's so fucking good on a steel guitar
15:39:12 <T3sl4> nice
15:41:19 <T3sl4> not sure what the cartoon lithiums are doing on the not-fretboard
15:42:01 <T3sl4> which, ever since i learned about atomic structure, i've been a bit amused by that symbol
15:42:41 <T3sl4> it has three ellipses around the nucleus, so if they represent individual electrons, it's lithium; but in lithium, the two "orbit" close in, while the third orbits wherever.
15:43:19 <T3sl4> Could also be carbon with six paired electrons (two still need to orbit in close, and two are in differently shaped p-orbitals) but i think the nucleus usually isn't drawn that way
15:43:51 <steve30> I'm guessing its just decorative :)
15:44:04 <Ampera> Yeah I don't think they thought that hard about it
15:44:15 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J1CqjgdJWA
15:44:23 <Ampera> He's got so many fucking steel guitars it's not even funny
15:44:43 <T3sl4> yeah, not specific to him obviously :P
15:44:52 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcmd6ZJTrQo and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTWpCgs524 too
15:46:19 <Ampera> There's so many instruments I wish I could just play around with for a few hours, not just steel guitars, but harpejjis and the chapman stick
15:46:41 <Ampera> I'd love to play a Wurlitzer EP, or even a Rhodes one
15:58:25 <steve30> is T3sl4 making contact cleaner now?
15:58:26 <steve30> https://www.radiokoelsch.de/media/image/product/3052/lg/teslanol-t6-kontakt-und-tuner-spray-200ml-zur-reinigung-und-pflege~2.jpg
16:10:56 <T3sl4> i'm quite happy with alcohol, myself
16:11:30 * T3sl4 djents Ampera
16:22:19 * Halcyon yeets Ampera
16:23:54 Join: jackbrown ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
16:24:15 <jackbrown> Hello
16:24:28 <steve30> hi
16:25:29 <jackbrown> steve30: hi can you help me ?
16:26:09 <Halcyon> Sounds ominous
16:26:55 <jackbrown> ?
16:27:36 <Halcyon> Nevermind
16:27:40 <Halcyon> What can we help with?
16:27:40 <T3sl4> if it involves not catching covid, i'm not sure he's the one to go to
16:27:41 <jackbrown> If I have to replace a ceramic damaged smt capacitor from a board, how can I know which uF was ?
16:28:27 <Halcyon> Well without markings, I would assume you need a circuit diagram?
16:28:36 <T3sl4> at best, an educated guess
16:29:02 <T3sl4> get a replacement board, remove the respective component and test it :P
16:30:10 <jackbrown> Halcyon: thanks
16:30:13 <jackbrown> T3sl4: lol
16:30:23 <Halcyon> Or if there are other caps around that one that are part of the same circuit and they are all the same, you could take a stab in the dark and replace it with the same type
16:30:32 <Halcyon> But as T3sl4 said, it would be a guess at best
16:30:53 <jackbrown> Ok got it
16:31:13 <T3sl4> or if there are extra, it might not even be needed. tons of extra caps are used, it's a little silly
16:31:27 <T3sl4> but if it matters, yeah, good luck
16:31:44 <jackbrown> Question n° 2: Is it true that is better to set the Iron to an high temperature to melt rapidly the solder and to do a quck job ?
16:32:05 <T3sl4> set it only high enough to do the job
16:32:20 <T3sl4> how high that is, depends on what's being soldered, and experience
16:32:36 <T3sl4> 300-400C is a good starting point
16:34:00 <jackbrown> ok got it
16:34:39 <jackbrown> T3sl4: about capacitors how do I test them? Do I need to remove from circuit board to do that ? Are there other ways without removing ?
16:35:03 <T3sl4> there's probably other stuff in parallel, so you need to remove it for a DMM's C range to work
16:35:05 <Halcyon> Do what Big Clive does and use the "finger test". If they bite, they probably work :P
16:35:13 * T3sl4 sparks Halcyon
16:35:21 * Halcyon growls
16:36:13 <jackbrown> The small ceramic ones they don't spark usually (I never seen)
16:36:31 <Halcyon> I know, I was joking :P
16:36:45 <Halcyon> I'm in a silly mood. Don't mind me.
16:36:52 * Halcyon goes and sits in the corner quietly
16:37:01 <jackbrown> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDABYKoVO4Q
16:37:09 <steve30> you might be able to test in circuit with an ESR meter
16:37:47 <Halcyon> I want to buy one of those Atlas ERS meters but they aren't particularly cheap
16:37:56 <Halcyon> Especially since I'd only use it in a blue moon
16:38:02 <Halcyon> *ESR
16:38:56 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
16:39:17 <Halcyon> I'm watching videos on cow brushes again :P
16:39:31 <jackbrown> Halcyon: before removing do you think that is a good idea to test capacitor resistance to start to check the capacitor health ? (beside eye inspection of course )
16:39:54 <Halcyon> I'm a beginner when it comes to EE, I don't want to give you the wrong answer
16:40:21 <jackbrown> Halcyon: thanks anyway
16:40:52 <Halcyon> For stuff like this, the beginners section of the forum is a great place to post. Others can learn from your questions.
16:40:52 <steve30> you can test the resistance on the board if you like, but if there is other stuff in parallel with it, the reading will be wrong.
16:40:54 <jackbrown> steve30: do you have an answer for me please?
16:40:59 <Halcyon> There are a lot of people who are happy to assist.
16:41:10 <steve30> I'd recommend taking it off to be sure
16:41:11 <jackbrown> steve30: ok thanks, removing is always the best choice then
16:41:50 <Halcyon> Steve: https://youtu.be/9OFJgsEzEZs?t=584
16:42:56 <steve30> moo
16:43:03 <Halcyon> So cute
16:45:41 * steve30 climbs onto Halcyon
16:45:47 <Halcyon> Oooer
16:45:47 <Halcyon> :P
17:00:30 * steve30 meows at the coffee cup
17:00:40 <jackbrown> which is the channel where I can ask about tool?
17:01:05 <steve30> I suggest just asking here
17:01:42 <jackbrown> steve30: thanks it's not electronics tool
17:01:54 <rust_collector> then what kind of tool?
17:02:06 <jackbrown> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000340936574.html
17:02:09 <steve30> I don't know of any tool-specific IRC channels
17:02:43 <rust_collector> machine taps, for...ok...
17:02:48 <jackbrown> Does anyone knows what about the different coating and which should be the best ?
17:03:47 <rust_collector> well, that depends on what material you work with, and how fast you want to tap a hole, and all kinds of things
17:04:39 <jackbrown> rust_collector: mostly i need these for metals, and I always make holes in the metals with a really slow rpm
17:05:24 <rust_collector> metals can be much more different than you think, I think.
17:05:53 <rust_collector> tapping steel and bronze is very different
17:07:03 <rust_collector> so, I am taking a wild guess, that you will most of the time tap steel, and aluminium?
17:08:09 <jackbrown> rust_collector: yep
17:09:24 <T3sl4> i just use bacon grease or similar
17:09:46 <T3sl4> for aluminum, even WD40 or other light petroleum solvent will do
17:09:53 <rust_collector> well, on aluminium, wd40 works great.
17:10:28 <rust_collector> yeah, I would not really worry about coatings on taps, until you get into production stuff
17:11:27 <jackbrown> rust_collector: so basically you think it's just "aestetical" ?
17:12:42 <rust_collector> if you are a hobby guy at home, tapping a few holes now and then, pretty much yes. if you want to tap 150 holes/minute in some factory, it is different
17:13:51 <jackbrown> rust_collector: yes sure, so basically you are saying whatever I take it will do fine for hobby use
17:14:18 <rust_collector> if the taps are good, then yes,
17:15:02 <rust_collector> you know... if the tap is badly made, you can coat it with anything, and it is still not good
17:15:54 <rust_collector> what size do you use most of the time?
17:16:47 <jackbrown> rust_collector: I'm just planning to add those tap to my battery drill that isn't very powerful, I use M3 M4
17:17:03 <rust_collector> ok, be careful.
17:17:20 <rust_collector> and good luck
17:18:19 <rust_collector> I think you would probably have more luck on a machinists forum, than on irc.
17:19:34 <jackbrown> ok tnx
17:19:47 <rust_collector> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341277527_Threading_Performance_of_Different_Coatings_for_High_Speed_Steel_Tapping
17:19:59 <rust_collector> eeh, I guess it is something
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17:59:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I love universal health care. Family member is staying in hospital, had an ambulance ride, CAT scan, MRI, swag of other tests + evaluation by specialists. Costs nothing. No insurance needed. I'm sad for you Yanks, the horror stories I hear about it bankrupting people :-(
18:07:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For reference, my ACL replacement in Oz I had done privately by one the world's best surgeons I hand picked cost about $5k and I got about $2.5k back. Could have cost almost nothing if I waited for a public hospital. Same ACL replacement in the US costs about AUD$18k Crazy.
18:17:03 <K> hello
18:17:12 <rust_collector> HEY!
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18:47:56 <rust_collector> blah blah blah
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19:04:07 <NeroTHz> I wish RS or Farnell sold proper small keyboards
19:04:18 <NeroTHz> they only seem to stock small keyboards with butchered layouts
19:05:12 <NeroTHz> (In short I want my pok3r)
19:05:14 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
19:05:24 * Ysjoelfir gets out the poker cards
19:05:30 <Ysjoelfir> strip poker or regular?
19:05:48 <rust_collector> what do you mean or?
19:06:04 <Ysjoelfir> true
19:08:33 <Ysjoelfir> I hate it when trucks stay somewhere, waiting to be (un)loaded, while being in reverse and beeping like an idiot -.-
19:09:27 <rust_collector> it is what you get, when they have to have those stupid automated manual boxes.
19:10:02 <rust_collector> hmm, the scania does actually get bored, and goes to neutral after a while
19:10:37 <Ysjoelfir> lol. that sounds usefull :D
19:11:25 <NeroTHz> https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/wasd-vp3-61-key-doubleshot-pbt-black-slate-mechanical-keyboard.html
19:11:32 <NeroTHz> this but all black keys
19:11:34 <Ysjoelfir> god damn it, now my windows defender thingy is like "no, I won't let you copy that folder, there is a suspicious file in it!" - well, I know that this file is ok, let me copy it god damn!
19:11:39 <NeroTHz> stock it already RS
19:11:57 <Ysjoelfir> a workmate of mine has that. its..... small
19:12:43 <NeroTHz> I have one at home
19:12:46 <NeroTHz> I love it
19:12:51 <rust_collector> why do you need rs to sell them?
19:13:01 <NeroTHz> because then I can order it through work easily :p
19:13:05 <NeroTHz> otherwise I have to pay
19:13:09 <rust_collector> awww
19:13:23 <NeroTHz> and considering they are like 170 bucks
19:15:01 <rust_collector> call them and say you want one, and you will give them something more sane, like 60, just to see what happens I mean, it is just some plastic and half a bag of switches
19:16:00 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D that will totally work^^
19:16:35 <rust_collector> yes, you will go straight to their phone blacklist
19:21:56 <rust_collector> hmm, they are exploding things wrong here today.
19:22:09 <Ysjoelfir> hm?
19:22:29 <rust_collector> it is not raining rocks here yet, but that did not sound like it went as planned
19:27:23 <rust_collector> you know, when they are blasting, it should sound more like BRRRRRRMMMMMMMM Not BRRRRRR BAM BRRRRR
19:29:34 <Ysjoelfir> strange
19:33:45 <rust_collector> they are not going very deep, so it does not take much to make it punch up thru the "roof" I guess.
19:34:18 <rust_collector> but they have been pretty aggressive lately.
19:34:21 <rust_collector> oh well
19:38:38 <Ysjoelfir> what are they digging for anyway?
19:38:55 <rust_collector> railway line and new station
19:38:58 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, you arent in hsnistan where there is loads of precious sand to find!
19:39:24 <Ysjoelfir> oh. public transportation. Don't bother, it failed here.
19:39:29 <rust_collector> yeah
19:39:32 <rust_collector> well
19:40:08 <rust_collector> they are trying to make it fail here as well
19:42:02 <rust_collector> the line to the south is ran by some english company, most of the rest is the swedish railways. I think the bit that is left of the old norwegian company is the line to bergen
19:44:22 <rust_collector> not that I would take the train anywhere. it is just too expensive
19:46:45 <rust_collector> and we do have sand here... it is just really huge, you can see it as a diy make sand kit
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19:56:52 <rust_collector> i just made my second breakfast. chinken noodles. it does taste like chicken powder
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20:36:19 <Ysjoelfir> No famili skinke in the chinken noodles? :P
20:36:37 * Ysjoelfir is sorting loads of Reels of components
20:36:39 <rust_collector> just chinken powder
20:37:11 <rust_collector> I think you have to dispose of some of those reels. they look too ... something negative
20:41:21 <rust_collector> I think I will put a power-on led on the soldering thing. that should be enough "electronics" for today
20:42:36 <Ysjoelfir> ewm electronics
20:42:46 * T3sl4 dusts rust_collector with 0402-sized "sand"
20:42:53 <rust_collector> eeew!
20:43:09 <Ysjoelfir> is that also one of those sand DIY kits? can you assemble it to make it a TO-3?
20:43:12 <rust_collector> I guess that is close to sand
20:43:29 <T3sl4> i don't think you undersand
20:43:43 <rust_collector> you put many many many of them together, and get a small rock
20:43:45 <Ysjoelfir> I think I do :P
20:43:59 * Ysjoelfir continues sorting stuff
20:44:24 <rust_collector> Ysjoelpine is getting high on tiny mosfets
20:44:29 <T3sl4> snorting snuff?
20:44:51 <T3sl4> mmm yes, he has a fettish doesn't he
20:45:03 <rust_collector> oh, he has several
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20:47:44 * T3sl4 hands Ysjoelfir a nondescript shiny-mylar envelope containing several SOT-23s
20:48:26 <rust_collector> mylar baggies are neat
20:50:19 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Q2RPWgtC4
20:51:06 <rust_collector> maybe I should use a bright blue led for my power on indicator
20:51:21 <rust_collector> I think I have one laying around...in th ewifes tv
20:59:52 <Watcher> That led in the tv is that the power mode led?
21:00:36 <T3sl4> but how will you get blinded by the tv again?
21:01:15 <rust_collector> well, I could... uhm, good question
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21:02:15 <rust_collector> I have thought about redrilling the hole it sits in, so I can aim it over to the wifes side of the bed
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21:11:49 * steve30 should make coffee
21:12:50 * T3sl4 meows at steve30's coffee cup
21:17:10 * steve30 slides a coffee T3sl4wards
21:17:39 <steve30> In other news, my sausages set my electric grill on fire
21:18:00 <rust_collector> eeh, uhm ok
21:19:06 <K> are the sausages ok?
21:19:22 <steve30> yup, very tasty
21:21:36 * T3sl4 sips the coffee
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21:40:28 * Ysjoelfir finds a bag of nondescript SOT-23s
21:40:36 * Ysjoelfir continues sorting
21:40:53 <steve30> mmm, that coffee was nice
21:59:06 <Ysjoelfir> that breadroll with skinke polse was nice, too
22:00:51 <rust_collector> I think today is a good coffee day
22:05:22 <Ysjoelfir> oh god. I just decided to try that little chubby can of energy drink I got from the asian store
22:05:50 <rust_collector> the soy sauce flavour one?
22:06:35 <Ysjoelfir> no. the.... liquid gummy bear flavoured one. the moment that stuff entered my mouth I felt a combination of disgust and feeling awake as fuck. also my teeth are hurting because its like 120% sugar and 5000% taurin
22:07:01 <rust_collector> niiiice!
22:07:43 <Ysjoelfir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carabao_Energy_Drink
22:24:44 <Ysjoelfir> interesting. https://www.aramex.com/de/en/track/shipment-details?q=c2hpcG1lbnRJZD03MzQxMDY0MDEmcHJvZHVjdEdyb3VwPUVYUCY%3d-b8b892%2f6Qf8%3d
22:24:50 <Ysjoelfir> this is the package mr. hsn is sending to me.
22:25:51 <Ysjoelfir> so it was supposedly delivered (to?) BOZBEK. I am not BOZBEK. also I or mrs. spouse was home all the times they "attempted delivery - no one home".
22:27:47 <hsn> wtf
22:28:04 <hsn> did it arrive ? no ?
22:28:24 <Ysjoelfir> nope. It was supposedly delivered to "BOZBEK". I am not BOZBEK.
22:28:35 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: As if military transport wasn't expensive enough already... https://t.co/QqFeXtFp9L
22:29:05 <hsn> lol
22:29:15 <hsn> r u sure
22:29:23 <hsn> can u be bozbek for a day
22:29:57 <Ysjoelfir> last time I checked I wasn't :D I researched the neighbors, there is noone in a 5 house radius with that name.
22:30:32 <rust_collector> there is a football player...
22:30:37 <K> they have been trying to deliver for a week
22:30:48 <K> wern't you at home or anything?
22:31:06 <Ysjoelfir> also I researched if there is a phone number. found a number of their forwarder? and.. well... "Due to corona we decided to stop telefone support for the time being"
22:31:22 <K> ah that is fucked
22:31:28 <Ysjoelfir> I was at home wednesday to today, and SWMBO was today the two weeks prior to that
22:31:34 <hsn> fcking shits
22:31:36 <Ysjoelfir> so every time they tried there was someone home
22:31:50 <hsn> i paid blood for that shipment xD
22:32:19 <Ysjoelfir> which is the reason why that is making me very angry. you are so generous to send that and they fuck up big time
22:32:44 <hsn> but bozbok is nice guy
22:32:45 <hsn> hahahh
22:32:52 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, u checked 5 neightbours
22:33:03 <hsn> but u didnt check the drivers names :D
22:33:20 <Ysjoelfir> no, i checked the surrounding houses in a five house radius. roughly 4 to 6 families per house :X
22:33:29 <Ysjoelfir> well, that could be the case. he delivered to himself :D
22:33:48 <hsn> i hope he grow a palm in his anus
22:33:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For those playing along at home, turns out it costs $23,000/hr (ownership cost) for a Globemaster https://t.co/yuEZvOT6W2
22:34:14 <hsn> if that is the case
22:34:15 <hsn> :D
22:34:22 <Ysjoelfir> lol
22:35:48 <hsn> they will reply next 2 weeks ::: https://snipboard.io/xEz4kS.jpg
22:37:12 <Ysjoelfir> Lets see :D I also filed a complaint, noticing that their forwarder in germany is not reachable
22:39:12 <hsn> this is not good !
22:39:26 <hsn> aramex here is really good company idk how fcked up its there !
22:40:12 <rust_collector> well, who do they use in germany?
22:40:31 <hsn> idk i think they have their own office
22:40:44 <Ysjoelfir> they use a forwarding company called sovereign
22:40:56 <rust_collector> uhm ,ok
22:40:58 <Ysjoelfir> https://sovereignspeed.com/
22:42:00 <rust_collector> is captain america working for them?
22:42:05 <hsn> aha
22:42:06 <Ysjoelfir> lol
22:42:19 <rust_collector> wth is that?
22:43:00 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/GMUa7c.jpg
22:43:10 <hsn> ^ the happy guy looks like he just had dates :D
22:43:28 <hsn> mybe he is happy because he stole ur cookies
22:43:30 <hsn> lol
22:43:35 <rust_collector> nah, he is just reading your comments
22:44:09 <hsn> im no happy
22:44:16 <hsn> actually why im here
22:44:19 <hsn> burry me back
22:44:30 <hsn> morning cooffee time
22:44:35 <rust_collector> why did you get out of the hole anyway?
22:45:00 <Ampera> good morning friendos
22:45:04 <Ampera> and other people
22:45:11 <Ysjoelfir> Mornings ampi
22:45:12 <rust_collector> oh. hi Ampera
22:45:22 <Ysjoelfir> did you steal my cookies?
22:45:45 <rust_collector> he does not accept 3rd party cookies
22:46:20 <Ampera> I only accept second party cookies
22:46:33 * Ampera steals your cookies
22:47:13 <Ampera> I've decided not to work today
22:47:17 <steve30> mmm, cookies
22:47:27 * Ampera throws a jaffa cake (not a cookie) at steve30
22:48:29 <rust_collector> right, that is not a cookie at all, lol
22:51:11 <hsn> ampera do u know bozbok ?
22:51:21 <Ampera> no
22:51:34 <hsn> ok
22:51:38 <Ampera> sorry
22:51:42 <hsn> bozbok stole Ysjoelfir's cookies
22:51:44 <hsn> :D
22:51:58 <Ampera> and didn't even give me any
22:52:01 <Ampera> what an asshole
22:52:19 <rust_collector> bozbok is a football player, watch him get fat and slow
22:52:58 <hsn> mybe the ai understand .. but no https://snipboard.io/qzvZmd.jpg
22:53:44 <Ampera> oh did hsn send Ysjoelfir cookies?
22:53:52 <Ampera> so it's Ysjoelfir who stole the cookies, but from hsn
22:54:04 <Ampera> /ban Ysjoelfir cookie thief
22:54:18 <hsn> no
22:54:25 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, was the destination
22:54:28 <K> /pan
22:54:34 <hsn> i sent him palm tree
22:54:38 <hsn> :(
22:54:49 <hsn> palm tree spurms
22:55:02 <Ampera> you wha
22:55:23 <Ampera> I didn't even know trees had sperm
22:55:40 <Ampera> that's kinda hot actually, imagine getting jizzed on by a tree
22:56:15 <Ampera> sometimes even I can't comprehend how fucked up I am
22:59:13 <K> you need help
22:59:28 <Ampera> K, from who
22:59:48 <K> from specialists
23:00:23 <Ampera> that specialize in?
23:00:32 <Ampera> if you say the special I will hit you
23:01:11 <hsn> <Ampera> sometimes even I can't comprehend how fucked up I am
23:01:15 <hsn> <Ampera> that specialize in?
23:01:20 <hsn> In fuck
23:01:28 <Ampera> oh a fucking specialist?
23:01:31 <hsn> yes
23:01:32 <Ampera> I like the sound of that
23:02:37 <hsn> it sounds "aah"
23:03:06 <coppice> Ampera: you mean a stud?
23:03:24 <Ampera> coppice, you nailed that one
23:08:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The Australian Computer Museum Society have found a new home and are running a fundraiser if you can help out: https://t.co/iEe36iqyYM
23:10:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: This was them being booted out from their previous place: https://t.co/pzCtmBEkz7
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23:30:17 <hsn> haha .. i understand NOTHING from this https://courses.edx.org/courses/course-v1:MITx+3.15x+3T2020/course/
23:32:30 <rust_collector> You must be enrolled in the course to see course content.
23:32:30 <rust_collector> Sign in or register and then enroll in this course.
23:32:41 <rust_collector> that is not too difficult to understand?
23:34:11 <hsn> yes but after u enroll .. u get into week 1
23:34:16 <hsn> first lesson
23:34:30 <hsn> then i discover i know nothing
23:34:51 <rust_collector> that is why you are there?
23:36:02 <hsn> yeah but i think im not qualified
23:36:04 <hsn> to enter
23:36:08 <hsn> xD
23:36:29 <hsn> the lady speak fast like facts and i dont get her ..
23:36:56 <K> ask her to slow down
23:37:27 <hsn> geee
23:38:00 <hsn> i just saw its 3rd one : https://www.edx.org/xseries/mitx-xminor-in-materials-for-electronic-optical-and-magnetic-devices
23:38:07 <hsn> so i better start with 1 & 2
23:38:30 <rust_collector> that is often not a bad idea
23:42:03 <coppice> The material that powers our modern world would be coal
23:52:34 <DHess_US> https://images.apina.biz/full/177734.jpg
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