// #eevblog — 2020-10-16
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00:00:06 <rust_collector> well, no, I guess I was late
00:00:36 <Ysjoelfir> the german speaking one, or the russian one?
00:01:03 <rust_collector> no, the one from iceland
00:01:40 <rust_collector> on the other side of our house
00:30:25 <Ysjoelfir> ah :D
00:33:24 <rust_collector> so, I have to look up where people are from now. house 1 is N 2 is poland, 3 and 4 is N 5 is swiss, 6 russia, 7 belgium-norwegian, 8 is N 9 does not exist, 10 is iceland, 11 does not exist, 12 is swiss/norwegian
00:34:05 <Ysjoelfir> what happened to 9 and 11? :D
00:34:19 <rust_collector> No comment. I was young
00:34:25 <Ysjoelfir> rofl
00:34:55 <K> what is "N"?
00:34:58 <K> Nope?
00:35:01 <K> Nein!
00:35:01 <Ysjoelfir> norge
00:35:10 <rust_collector> norg-sk
00:35:13 <electrohead> lol
00:47:41 <rust_collector> ok, time to go dump stuff. or at least get the trailer out from behind all the stuff
00:48:15 <Ysjoelfir> come by at my place and grab all the to be dumped stuff as well, ok?
01:10:55 * Ampera hugs rust_collector and gives Ysjoelfir liverwurst spread on bread
01:11:38 <Ysjoelfir> fun fact - I am actually right now eating white bread with Leberwurst
01:12:03 <Ampera> so am I
01:12:04 <Ampera> nice
01:34:49 * T3sl4 licks Ampera's liver
01:48:50 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds wrong on so many levels
01:51:02 <T3sl4> oh come on, it's not the wurst thing you've ever heard
01:51:39 <Ysjoelfir> true
01:55:05 <hsn> I was looking at .. ceramic chip antenna from johnson has zero clearance .. in fact its gnd should be under it. ... What is that antenna type?
01:58:38 <hsn> https://www.johansontechnology.com/metal-mounted-zero-clearance-antenna
02:00:01 <hsn> "qualified customer" .. what a customerism .
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02:11:50 * steve30 has a beer
02:15:32 * Ysjoelfir has a cream soda. without palm sperm.
02:16:43 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, you sure do have a thing for coconut flowers
02:17:29 <coppice> coconut is a key reason I love Thai cuisine
02:18:19 <Ysjoelfir> cream soda isn't realy coconut, is it?
02:19:17 <Ysjoelfir> and... fun fact... I have a very mixed relationship towards coconut. I HATE those small coconut flakes, which are usually on eg. Rafaelo or on bakery stuff. but I love chunks of coconut, fresh coconut and coconut water
02:19:33 <coppice> cream soda means different things in different places
02:20:43 <Ysjoelfir> this one is more like... fake vanilla flavoured
02:21:08 <Ysjoelfir> since we don't have ready made cream soda in germany I use a syrup from the asian store, made by... erm..
02:21:11 <Ysjoelfir> hales?
02:21:28 <Ysjoelfir> ah yes. that one https://my-thaimassage.shop/blue-boy-sirup-green-cream-soda-hales-thailand
02:21:35 <coppice> In the UK cream soda is a slightly milky looking drink. in much of asia its green and clear
02:22:26 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of milk and asia.. I absolutely enjoy asian sweet milk tea. sadly its not available in sugar free and cheap, otherwise I would probably drink it every day.
02:23:09 <coppice> do you mean the Indian style, or something like Taiwanese bubble tea?
02:24:18 <hsn> Sweet milk tea?
02:24:41 <Ysjoelfir> I never tried both of those in "original", but I assume its more like the bubble tea variety. though real bubble tea, at least the way its served here in germanistan, is SO DAMN SWEET, you can't realy drink that. which is why I do it myself from time to time with way less syrup and sugar
02:24:48 <Ysjoelfir> I was refering to that https://www.amazon.de/Foco-Thai-Drink-11-8oz-Pack/dp/B00U9W85WO
02:24:51 <hsn> Like karak tea?
02:25:52 <Ysjoelfir> I never tried karak tea, but from what I read it is simmilar to the indian style chai, which I enjoy in the autumn and winter time from time to time (selfmade of course, as I said, we don't have "real" indian stuff available).
02:27:58 <coppice> Indians make a lot of their tea by boiling water milk and tea leaves together. The milk gets reduced and slightly caramelised in the process. In HK, and some other places in East Asia, they make tea like most Europeans, and add milk when serving it, but they use condensed milk. That gives it a similar quality to the Indian tea
02:29:51 <hsn> Coppice knows lots about cultures
02:40:15 <rust_collector> coppice is just very hungry when he is traveling
02:40:40 <rust_collector> well, not really, because he eats all the things
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02:41:55 <K> tea with milk is a crime.
02:41:59 <K> there, i said it.
02:42:23 <rust_collector> what? are you vegan?
02:42:26 * Ysjoelfir feels like a criminal now
02:43:02 * rust_collector has always been criminal. at least since number 9 and 11 disappeared
02:43:06 <K> not vegan
02:43:13 <coppice> K: depends on the type of tea. People who put milk in Earl Grey should be flogged
02:43:17 <K> some things are just wrong.
02:44:33 <rust_collector> like cheesecake.
02:46:22 <K> yes.
03:03:47 * Ysjoelfir hides his earl grey with much sweetener and cream
03:17:28 <NeroTHz> Anyone have experience with hdmi-altmode/USBc-HDMI dongles
03:17:37 <NeroTHz> does any modern laptop with USBC3.1 port support it?
03:29:59 <Some_Person> NeroTHz: Many modern laptops support it, although figuring out if a given laptop does without trying it might be difficult
03:30:52 <NeroTHz> That is the conclusion I´ve come too at this point
03:34:01 <Some_Person> USB ports have become a complete clusterfuck if you ask me. There's no obvious way to tell what a given port is capable of
03:34:09 <NeroTHz> yeah
03:34:40 <NeroTHz> it´s generally because the high-end brands, who can afford to put the full suite of features in their connectors, enjoy the ´only one connector´ idea
03:35:27 <Some_Person> I feel like there should be some system where the capabilities can be indicated with a symbol
03:36:37 <NeroTHz> There is but it is not mandatory apparently
03:37:41 <NeroTHz> argh fucking USB-C mess
03:38:11 <Some_Person> I feel like the things that are important are USB version, TB version, DP/DP++ alt mode support, and PD wattage
03:38:11 <NeroTHz> seems like the only possible way to know anything is to just get the top-of-the-line products only which support everything
03:38:32 <Some_Person> It would be VERY useful to be able to look at a port and know all those pieces of info
03:41:04 <Some_Person> I'm not sure how you'd make a not-unweidy symbol out of it though
03:43:07 <NeroTHz> ffs
03:43:28 <NeroTHz> now she ordered a hama USB plug that advertises ´USB2.0´ and ¨system requirements: Windows 10/8/7¨ as only requirements
03:43:37 <NeroTHz> that apparently does also require DP alt-mode to work in the first place
03:49:28 <NeroTHz> argh
03:49:34 <NeroTHz> this is such a furstrating experience
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04:01:39 <rust_collector> ooh, I just got my first ever set of shitty helping hands
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04:21:49 <Ysjoelfir> I have three sets of shitty helping hands!
04:24:17 <rust_collector> I think I might actually have a set somewhere, but I have not seen it in decades. but this thing just followed me home
04:28:29 <rust_collector> otoh, we have dinner. or hotdogs
04:32:04 <hsn> yum hot
04:32:13 <hsn> enjoy rusty
04:34:08 <hsn> http://hsn93.com/www/haha.mp4
04:34:09 <hsn> lol
04:34:49 <rust_collector> lukewarm doggos
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05:23:40 * Ysjoelfir enjoys a date cookie
05:24:15 <rust_collector> what? didn't you get a little bag?
05:24:28 <rust_collector> or was it just a huge shipping label?
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05:25:27 <Ysjoelfir> I got a little bag, yes. :P waiting for money to arrive to forward part of it to you
05:26:14 <rust_collector> meh, don't worry about that. enjoy your cookies. If you got a 25kg bag, then ok, we could discuss that
05:26:44 <Ysjoelfir> I got a 1.4 kilo bag. that makes 700 grams cookies for you!
05:27:00 <rust_collector> yes, that is my point, that is almost nothing
05:27:17 <rust_collector> i would be thru that in an hour
05:28:57 <rust_collector> heh, which reminds me of that time I got a quote on some cashew nuts (I think it was) and I got a great deal on them, from iran.
05:29:15 <rust_collector> but they wanted to send one full 20' container
05:29:45 <rust_collector> I was hoping for maybe a 5 or 10 kg bag
05:29:49 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a reasonable amount?
05:30:17 <rust_collector> I could make many of those cake things... I guess it would make sense
05:30:22 <Watcher> was the 20' container full of 10 kilo bags?
05:31:13 <rust_collector> not sure? for all I know, they just stood the box up and dumped the nuts in and closed the doors
05:31:44 <Watcher> i have never bought the container?
05:32:23 <rust_collector> they will pick it up the next time they are in the area. unless it disappears
05:33:01 <Watcher> i mean the nuts (not the container it self)
05:33:58 <rust_collector> now I forgot what cake thing it was that used those nuts. but I want them
05:38:43 <Ysjoelfir> mr. rust. if I want to know which belt I need for my DIY air compressor thing. how do I measure the wheels wo know how... "thick" the V-belt has to be?
05:40:37 <rust_collector> they have to get wedged between the sides, so anything that has the same angle, and does not bottom out in the groove will work. So, you measure the width at the top of the groove, so you can adjust it as it wears out, and slides further into the groove
05:41:58 <Ysjoelfir> great, thanks :)
05:42:40 <rust_collector> or look up w50 fan belt, and go from there
05:42:41 <rust_collector> ?
05:44:34 <rust_collector> what is Aschaffenburg known for? I know that name from somewhere
05:46:24 <Ysjoelfir> good question? they have many churches and stuff, and its the second largest city in the rhine main region. but besides that I don't think theres somethign special there.
05:46:42 <rust_collector> heh
05:53:53 <rust_collector> it like like their churches are mostly not easily burnt, so I don't think I will bother
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06:01:16 <Ysjoelfir> xD
06:09:01 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/car/used/ad.html?finnkode=194439654
06:11:45 <Ysjoelfir> nice :D
06:11:59 <Ysjoelfir> I wouldn't have chosen a cx as a base for that, but... it looks nice
06:13:10 <rust_collector> they made a lot of that kind of thing in sweden. the saab 9000 was more usual
06:13:44 <rust_collector> and the large later citroen also.
06:13:51 <rust_collector> xm?
06:17:53 <Ysjoelfir> a saab is still on my "want to have that some day" list
06:18:05 <rust_collector> uhmmf
06:18:45 <rust_collector> at least make it one from before gm
06:20:11 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: which Saab?
06:20:34 <rust_collector> 93, or 94?
06:20:37 <coppice> The mid-80s 99 Turbos were quite nice
06:20:42 <rust_collector> the 96 was fun
06:33:09 <rust_collector> I did sort of like the 9000, even if they were a weird mix of things
06:34:56 <coppice> The 9000 was just a restyled FIAT :)
06:35:16 <rust_collector> well, not just, but I know what you mean
06:35:31 <rust_collector> could also be a lancia, btw
06:36:14 <rust_collector> a fiat with a misconfigured drivetrain, that did work pretty ok
06:36:21 <coppice> The 9000 was a failure, too
06:36:38 <coppice> The 99 and the 900 were the two nice cars they made
06:37:01 <rust_collector> well. I dunno about that. they did sell well in swedistan, but they did not last very long
06:37:19 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know. didn't investigate which models were good, coppice. I liked the looks of the 900 though.
06:37:27 <Ysjoelfir> would also be a nice company to my volvo 940 xD
06:37:51 <rust_collector> they were nice for towing horse trailers. same as the volvos
06:38:14 <coppice> The 9000 didn't sell well in the UK. If a Swedish car wasn't popular in the UK it was definitely a failure
06:38:37 <rust_collector> maybe you did learn after the 900 crap
06:39:07 <coppice> what was so bad about the 900?
06:41:18 <rust_collector> the regular 900 was about as exciting as a low spec toyota. Nothing too horrible about them. The turbo models were more fun, but they were also... harder to keep alive, if you used the turbo a lot
06:42:27 <coppice> the 900 was a very pleasant car to be a passenger in. I've never driven one. The 99 turbo was quite good to drive, although these days it would feel very lame
06:42:52 <rust_collector> the later 900s were opels. or maybe that was when they were renamed to 9-3? I think there was a year or two of opel-900...
06:43:26 <rust_collector> yeah, the 99 was probably something when it was new.
06:43:39 <coppice> GMs don't count
06:43:52 <rust_collector> But I have a thing for the 96, with the ford v4
06:44:07 <coppice> the early 99s and the last of the 99 turbos were sooo different
06:45:04 <coppice> The best Saab was the Viggen
06:45:16 <rust_collector> that is probably true
06:45:40 <rust_collector> the 340 was not bad either, but not very much fun
06:45:44 <coppice> no ford crap in that. It had a Volvo engine
06:45:56 <coppice> The 340 was horrible
06:46:05 <rust_collector> the saab 340?
06:46:23 <rust_collector> it seems to be reliable enough, flying around in all kinds of weather
06:46:27 <coppice> oh, sorry, Saab had a 340? I was thinking of the Volvo
06:46:35 <rust_collector> nah
06:46:45 <rust_collector> the saab 340 was a plane
06:47:10 <rust_collector> like the viggen also was. they just made a viggen edition car for a bit too
06:47:34 <coppice> oh, yeah. now I've googled a picture I recognise the Saab 340
06:48:21 <rust_collector> we used one of those to haul mail from oslo to svalbard. they said it was not always a very pleasant trip
06:50:00 <coppice> The Gripen seems OK, but it doesn't have that ear splitting take off noise of the Viggen
06:50:31 <rust_collector> ok. I do not think I have heard any of them "live"
06:51:50 <coppice> All fighters are extremely noisy, but the Viggen is notoriously the noisiest. At an air show it is clearly the noisiest thing to fly. Dunno if that is due to the plane's design or the Volvo fan it uses
06:55:47 <rust_collector> or both
06:56:30 <rust_collector> we pretty much only used the f16 here Not the volvo one.
06:57:34 <rust_collector> we got the f35 now. I am not sure if they are actually using them yet, but... I have not seen one anyway
06:58:33 <coppice> I suspect people will look back on the F35 with all the love of the F104
06:59:30 <rust_collector> were they also a decade too late, and 10 times the price, and needs special stuff to keep working?
07:00:35 <coppice> They were pretty much on time, and on budget, but a little under spec. Enough that killed a lot of pilots. Still, replacing crashed planes keeps the economy moving
07:01:18 <rust_collector> from the pics, the 35 is pretty big, especially if compared to the f16, which looks like a gocart next to it
07:01:38 <coppice> surely you've heard tales of the F104 Starfighter, and the corruption that got it into places like the Luftwaffe
07:02:22 <rust_collector> nah, I am not that into planes. but that sounds like business as usual
07:02:49 <coppice> The F16 is quite small. Most fighters are bigger
07:04:26 <rust_collector> hmm, now I can not remember the other planes we used... we had crj, and... uhm...
07:05:30 <rust_collector> atp. they were well abused, and they ripped out everything, to save weight. they even removed the autopilot stuff, but they had to put that back, as nothing worked without it, lol
07:06:15 <rust_collector> we had to have sacks of sand, in case one needed to fly without a load, because it was so out of balance
07:06:56 <rust_collector> iIrc, there used to be a small kitchen area in the back,
07:07:55 <rust_collector> and the doors usually froze shut, which was annoying
07:12:04 <rust_collector> Ok, I have to look at some kind of program to draw a circuit. or, a pcb
07:12:22 <rust_collector> la la laa... hello internet
07:16:09 * Ysjoelfir points rust_collector to altium
07:16:40 * rust_collector looks for his glasses
07:16:53 <rust_collector> sorry, I can not see that far
07:18:04 <rust_collector> i might just do it on paper. I guess I am not as hipster as you
07:19:13 <Ysjoelfir> xD
07:19:25 <Ysjoelfir> so you use a Version of DaveCAD?
07:19:32 <Ysjoelfir> in this case, RustCAD?
07:19:44 <Ampera> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
07:19:51 <rust_collector> I forked AvEcad
07:20:10 <rust_collector> b?
07:20:14 <Ysjoelfir> c
07:20:21 <Ampera> this is highly illegal
07:20:25 <rust_collector> a b v
07:20:34 <rust_collector> well, then stop it?
07:20:38 <Ampera> why
07:20:43 <rust_collector> i dunno?
07:21:06 <rust_collector> as you for some reason seem to care?
07:21:40 <rust_collector> I am a career criminal, but I do not mention that the stuff I do is illegal
07:22:08 <Ysjoelfir> i always knew that the post is doing illegal stuff
07:22:19 <rust_collector> sure
07:22:40 <rust_collector> and that is why I like having the boring fleet trucks. they all look the same
07:23:24 <Ysjoelfir> :P
07:28:51 Quit: NeroTHz ([email protected]) EOF from client
07:42:51 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 all
07:43:23 <rust_collector> night cookiemonster
08:37:48 <Halcyon> Morning all
08:38:37 <rust_collector> hellu
08:39:46 <Halcyon> Bahhaa stupid cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNvYcgICPCs
08:39:51 <Halcyon> How's it going rust_collector ?
08:40:24 <rust_collector> awesome!? just... yeah
08:40:40 <Halcyon> Fair enough
08:41:49 <rust_collector> I just fired up the stinkpad, I have to think about this desktop stuff a bit
08:42:17 <Halcyon> Hehe
08:42:57 <rust_collector> so, I just installed kicad, and I have to figure out what I am supposed to do in there
08:47:31 <rust_collector> and now my stinkpad does not want to internet...
08:48:54 <Halcyon> Sounds like you're having fun there
08:49:19 <rust_collector> oh yes
08:49:41 <rust_collector> this thing is full of kde stuff. I don't know what anything is
08:55:55 * electrohead chugs guiness as he walks into the chat room
08:56:28 <rust_collector> hoi mr head
09:07:38 <electrohead> hey mate
09:07:40 <electrohead> how goes it?
09:08:26 <rust_collector> well. I got wifi working somehow... so super perfect awesome
09:10:44 <electrohead> were you running into issues with your wifi?
09:11:07 <rust_collector> yep
09:12:00 <rust_collector> I fired up the old stinkpad, and somehow it could see my network, said it was configuring... then nothing
09:12:25 <rust_collector> I am using kde today, and I have no idea how it does anything
09:15:42 <rust_collector> sure, it looks nice, but... eeh.
09:25:27 <electrohead> ahh, so under linux, you were trying to connect?
09:25:43 <electrohead> what network manager/program were you using to connect?
09:26:01 <rust_collector> I dunno? whatever kde uses
09:26:33 <electrohead> gah
09:26:35 * electrohead looks
09:27:09 <electrohead> network manager?
09:27:14 <electrohead> I want to say yes
09:27:23 <rust_collector> ok
09:27:51 <rust_collector> i dunno? but it works now.
09:28:13 <electrohead> what did you do?
09:28:22 <rust_collector> I have no idea
09:31:39 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/OtjbA50
09:34:52 <rust_collector> or https://imgur.com/a/OtJbA50
09:35:33 <rust_collector> I don't know why it almost shows the menu there...
09:36:02 <rust_collector> it is pretty weird to use. we will see how long it will be installed
09:36:15 <electrohead> what distribution is this?
09:36:39 <rust_collector> mx
09:38:02 <electrohead> https://mxlinux.org/
09:38:03 <electrohead> this?
09:38:08 <rust_collector> yes
09:38:39 <electrohead> try out XFCE
09:38:44 <rust_collector> uuh, no
09:38:45 <electrohead> I think you'll like that more than KDE
09:38:49 <electrohead> no?
09:39:05 <rust_collector> I have that on the desktop
09:39:32 <rust_collector> and I have been using that since we started testing mx, in 2013 or 14
09:39:56 <rust_collector> this time, I want to try kde, just because it is no longer kde4
09:40:30 <rust_collector> the previous install on this thing, was mx with fluxbox. that was nice
09:41:24 <electrohead> I'm confused; "and I have been using that since we started testing mx"
09:41:31 <rust_collector> yes
09:41:33 <electrohead> are you a developer of MX?
09:42:09 <rust_collector> no, but I did a bit of testing, when that project was started. I sort of fell into that, from antix
09:42:39 <electrohead> ahh, ok
09:42:57 * electrohead installs arch behind your back
09:43:00 <rust_collector> I did some translations and stuff. I am not sure if any of that is left now
09:43:00 <electrohead> :P
09:43:15 <rust_collector> yeah, arch...
09:43:32 <electrohead> I've stuck with arch for a long time, now
09:43:44 <rust_collector> that does tend to last almost as long as windows installs here
09:44:10 <rust_collector> it is usually great for a week or two, then it starts to annoy me, for some unknown reason
09:44:22 <electrohead> what are you after, then?
09:44:26 <electrohead> UI? ease of use?
09:44:43 <rust_collector> I just want to watch youtube
09:45:22 <electrohead> install youtube-dl and mpv
09:45:32 <rust_collector> pffffff
09:45:38 <electrohead> and then just "mpv [youtubelink]" from a terminal
09:45:41 <electrohead> no ads
09:45:45 <rust_collector> uuh, yes
09:45:48 <rust_collector> and...
09:46:00 <electrohead> :P
09:46:24 <rust_collector> it is not like I get ads when I watch youtube in a browser either.
09:47:51 <rust_collector> We will see. the next time, maybe I will go back to my favourite little non-tiling wm. maybe not
09:48:45 <rust_collector> maybe it will be on some random distro, maybe not.
09:49:18 <rust_collector> I just happen to be used to debian, so I tend to use that
09:52:44 <rust_collector> butt! have fun. I am going to bed. maybe I can get some sleep tonight
09:54:16 <electrohead> hopefully you can
09:54:28 <electrohead> I was just outside with my cat for a few minutes
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10:45:11 <Halcyon> Mew
11:10:14 <damian> dont start!
11:12:07 <Halcyon> :P
11:23:16 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:23:16 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
11:24:00 <damian> hello
11:24:18 <MrMobodies> I have that Hex core server but I don't know what operating system to go for
11:24:55 <MrMobodies> I can install Windows 2008r2 to run some simple virtual machines but then support will disappear within a year or so.
11:25:11 <MrMobodies> and there is the newer version and I read they have so many restrictions
11:25:49 <MrMobodies> like requiring a cal access license but I read that was the case before
11:26:16 <MrMobodies> but I wonder whether it is enforced in some way to prevent more than 50 connections being made
11:26:41 * electrohead throws arch linux at MrMobodies
11:26:44 <MrMobodies> I got HP 420 controller and some cache with capacitor and the fans have gone down
11:26:54 <MrMobodies> Arch linux... I'll give that a go
11:27:19 <electrohead> :P
11:28:15 <MrMobodies> If I get that working in the way I want, I won't have to worry about being spied on by Microsoft and mess with the firewall.
11:28:44 <MrMobodies> that's why I am reluctant for that server 2016+
11:28:54 <electrohead> if you are looking to mess with windows in anyway, and this is my opinion, I'd settle with linux as a base install, then just virtualize windows
11:29:15 <electrohead> can then disable networking all together at the bottom level, if need be
11:31:08 <electrohead> err, bottom/top level, so that there is no networking interface for windows to see
11:32:59 <rust_collector> nerds
11:33:27 <rust_collector> why not use bsd like a sane-ish person?
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11:37:02 * T3sl4 noogies Halcyon
11:37:23 <MrMobodies> I have got many ssd's lying about, I'd give each one a go.
11:38:12 * Halcyon nibbles T3sl4
11:39:01 * T3sl4 bytes Ampera
11:39:27 <rust_collector> then there is the boring standard debian stale. which could be helpful if you need to look something up online
11:54:45 <MrMobodies> https://meterpreter.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/archlinux.png
11:54:58 <MrMobodies> That's looking like the business I am after
11:55:40 <MrMobodies> with customizing Conquer a bit it'll be looking good for me needs
11:56:44 <rust_collector> oh good... when is that pic from?
11:57:46 <MrMobodies> I'd thought I'd take a look on google images
11:57:52 <MrMobodies> and I see what i like
11:59:10 <rust_collector> sure. it does look like a pretty standard xxxbox with some bar, and waay too much conky
12:00:00 <rust_collector> I am just wondering, as a 3.2 kernel is a bit old
12:07:09 * rust_collector is wondering why "personal lubricant" and " heat lotion" comes in very similar packaging
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13:42:16 <MrMobodies> Oh by the way I found this selling:
13:42:17 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Areca-ARC-1882IX-16-v3-16-port-SATA-SAS-6GBPS-PCIE-3-0-RAID-CONTROLLER/174478169142
13:42:29 <MrMobodies> I saw them selling for hundreds of pounds more
13:42:51 <MrMobodies> so I thought I'd put in £25 for a laugh
13:42:59 <MrMobodies> and apparently the seller agreed
13:43:15 <MrMobodies> I always wanted one of those controllers
13:44:25 <MrMobodies> 4 sas connectors and that means I don't have to have two sas controllers or so in the server
13:49:07 <MrMobodies> if it takes too much power to run I'll just use the P420 until later
13:49:11 <MrMobodies> when I get work
13:50:57 <MrMobodies> I got a problem
13:51:20 <MrMobodies> I got another HDD cage box arrive, 2.5"
13:51:37 <MrMobodies> but the power supply only comed with a non standard 10 pin cable
13:51:57 <MrMobodies> the cage does come with a 10 pin molex connector
13:52:23 <MrMobodies> I would like to make an splitter to fit both of them
13:55:10 <rust_collector> sounds like a plan
13:57:08 <MrMobodies> I am not going to overload it.
13:57:38 <MrMobodies> just to conveniently house some ssd's that i'd have loose in the case
13:57:48 <MrMobodies> its a 460w power supply
14:00:38 <rust_collector> how much power does a drive take anyway?
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14:10:27 <hsn> 3600 J/h
14:11:09 <rust_collector> you are thinking about wall air conditioners, hsn
14:11:38 <hsn> Nah. Im no thinking at all
14:12:25 <hsn> I just woke up .. put some number here
14:12:34 <rust_collector> 4558
14:12:41 <hsn> Maybe i go sleep again
14:12:49 <rust_collector> 0512
14:13:03 <hsn> Yup thats my credit card pin
14:13:11 <rust_collector> I know
14:13:14 <MrMobodies> 2.3-2.7 about 2.4 watts in 240v wattage
14:13:36 <MrMobodies> ooops 0.4w
14:13:37 <hsn> So 3600*2.4
14:14:18 <hsn> 1440J/h
14:14:32 <MrMobodies> not much
14:14:38 <MrMobodies> 1.6a at 5vdc
14:14:41 <MrMobodies> on the label
14:14:58 <rust_collector> hmm. ok
14:15:02 <MrMobodies> 8w max I suppose
14:15:27 <hsn> Gn
14:15:29 <rust_collector> and that is the "laptop drives"? 2.5"?
14:15:36 <MrMobodies> A sandisk x300
14:15:37 <rust_collector> morning hsn!
14:15:44 <MrMobodies> oh morning
14:15:47 <hsn> Wht ever its just weekend and 6:15am
14:15:51 <hsn> Gm
14:16:11 <rust_collector> it is not weekend
14:16:23 <rust_collector> what are you doing at home anyway?
14:16:25 <hsn> Weekstart
14:16:54 <hsn> Im sleeping i guess .. having some bad dreams
14:17:02 <rust_collector> perfect
14:17:18 <hsn> I need to go back and start hitting a guy
14:17:31 <hsn> In that dream
14:21:47 <rust_collector> ok, go find sgt. blazkowicz and punch him in the eyeball
14:38:31 <rust_collector> hsn,
14:39:11 <rust_collector> say hi to Halfcyon when he gets here. I am going to bed
15:07:40 <Halcyon> I'm back
15:07:43 <Halcyon> Goodnight rust_collector
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16:59:16 <MrMobodies> I have just found something
16:59:27 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-ML350e-Gen8-Redundancy-Redundant-Enabler-Kit-HP-664046-B21/184331587433
17:00:00 <MrMobodies> I think that will solve my problem and I will pull the power supply out of the G6. I know they seem to be selling cheap on Ebay too compared to this other ATX style one.
17:01:11 <MrMobodies> I think I'll need that anyway with a secondary power supply to populate cpu two and use other types of ram
17:01:23 <MrMobodies> for that price £30 that seems good
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17:16:06 <hsn> Halcyon, https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=995871310879638
17:16:55 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
17:17:04 <MrMobodies> morning
17:17:49 <MrMobodies> Do you think 460w is enough?
17:18:09 <MrMobodies> 1 hex core cpu, possibly 6 ssd's low power and planned for 2 4tb drives
17:18:22 <MrMobodies> raid controller and some quad port network cards 14w each
17:19:22 <MrMobodies> If I need a 750w I can use those 460w ones for spares in the G6
17:19:53 <MrMobodies> I found 2 for £6 each so I brought them to fit the conversion kit.
17:20:31 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Proliant-DL360-G6-PSU-Power-Supply-460W-HOT-PLUG-511777-001-499250-101/181920541049
17:22:10 <MrMobodies> Wwell I got to go to sleep no night.
17:22:54 * Ysjoelfir uses a 350W PSU for his server with 12 conventional HDDs and an octacore CPU
17:24:44 <hsn> mORNING Ysjoelfir MrMobodies and others .. cya
17:24:53 <Ysjoelfir> hibye hsn :)
17:25:00 <MrMobodies> Wweell I have been up all night
17:25:08 <MrMobodies> looking at stuff to buy
17:25:26 <MrMobodies> thanks so 460w is enough, no graphics card going in there.
17:25:41 <MrMobodies> see you all later go to sleep.
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17:30:59 <Halcyon> Catchy song hsn :P
17:31:18 <Halcyon> Anyway back later. Going out for dinner.
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18:37:58 <T3sl4> cheriooooooooooo https://i.redd.it/wokcoc3ry4t51.jpg
18:37:58 <electrohead> Captain deform-o
18:37:58 <electrohead> :D
18:37:58 <electrohead> lol, hey T3sl4 o/
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19:37:11 <Ysjoelfir> hi nerofast
19:38:30 <T3sl4> hi YsjoelHz
19:38:53 <Ysjoelfir> Yswatt?
19:39:04 <Ysjoelfir> Also, hi sparky
19:39:28 * T3sl4 crackles maniacally
19:52:20 * Ysjoelfir gets T3sl4 back down to earth
19:57:15 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir knows what's on the line
20:13:56 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
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23:02:55 <T3sl4> ew, people
23:09:58 <electrohead> lol, hey T3sl4, Ysjoelfir
23:10:14 * electrohead gives T3sl4 vanilla caramel coffee creamer
23:10:17 <Ysjoelfir> ew, people with heads
23:10:51 <electrohead> :P
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23:31:40 <Guest|39031> hi
23:33:48 <Guest|39031> i have a snap on scope and cant find a listing on an ic that is geting hot
23:36:11 <Ysjoelfir> cool!
23:36:14 <Guest|39031> the chip is so-8 the only printing on it is MVRA AND under that is LENB
23:36:23 <Ysjoelfir> Also, Hi :)
23:38:02 <Guest|39031> 72 years old and still trying to learn please help me find a replacement
23:38:23 <Guest|39031> thanks for your time FRANK
23:39:37 <Ysjoelfir> Well, for helping we would need more information. where is that IC in the circuit, what does it do? Why do you think that it getting hot is a problem? Who is FRANK?
23:40:09 <Guest|39031> from us
23:40:53 <Guest|39031> it get very hot
23:41:58 <Guest|39031> i dont know what it does nothing else gets hot on the board
23:42:10 <T3sl4> heh, this isn't like writing a letter to someone, but i appreciate the politeness i guess :)
23:42:49 <T3sl4> so, you need to know what the board is and what all is on it, first of all
23:42:58 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that.
23:43:17 <Ysjoelfir> ideally you could trace out the part of the circuit surrounding that hot IC
23:43:57 <T3sl4> also, maybe it's supposed to run hot? electronics can get pretty hot to the touch, but still be fine
23:44:13 <Ysjoelfir> I was searching for the markings you provided, but can't find any SO-8 that matches, only a very vague reference to a LM3488 from an aliexpress seller, but according to the datasheet they are marked with S1Bwhatever.
23:44:14 <T3sl4> if it's snap-on though, can't you just call in the warranty?
23:45:24 <Guest|39031> thanks i dont know where to begin
23:45:24 <Guest|39031> i dont know where to begin its from around 2010 old scope
23:47:25 <Ysjoelfir> grab a pencil and just draw a box with 4 pins on each side and start drawing whats connected to what. no need to be fancy here. also, don't draw the whole circuit, just like... four components around the thing should be roughly enough to get a guess what it is.
23:47:32 <Ysjoelfir> also, pictures always help
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23:49:26 <Ysjoelfir> erm
23:49:36 <Ysjoelfir> was that to much to ask?
23:50:41 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/gkcdwUW.png
23:51:23 * Ampera calciums T3sl4
23:51:36 <T3sl4> calci-yum
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