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00:00:27 <steve30> I used it this morning for video editing in Adobe Premiere 6. Worked nicely, although the resultant file behaves oddly on my Linux PC.s
00:05:32 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) I'm not a big apple fan, but I always liked this Tuppermac case, and the one from the... G5 I think? That rounded rectangular thing with a gazillion holes
00:05:41 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/ja2nx7/program_in_c/
00:06:23 <Ysjoelfir> lol, nice :D
00:07:15 <K> delinquent
00:07:26 <steve30> The metal one with the holes is the G5. The plastic one like mine is the G4 and G3
00:08:50 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure there is a way do differenciate the G3 and G4, but I don't know how to do that. I once bought this for 5 bucks from ebay and NEVER looked into it since then. thats like... 5 years ago?
00:10:05 <steve30> The G4 is a dark greeny grey colour. The G3 is bright blue and has "G3" in big letters on the side
00:12:50 <Ysjoelfir> SWMBO says this one is blue. but it has silver sides with just the apple and no G3 :D
00:13:38 <K> it's a cross-breed!
00:15:49 <steve30> Does it look like this?
00:15:50 <steve30> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Apple_Power_Macintosh_G5_Late_2005_02.jpg
00:16:20 <Ysjoelfir> no
00:16:23 <Ysjoelfir> wait
00:17:49 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a2M_BSgH1SYM29YKcOP3lWwc7MIH2ewl/view?usp=sharing
00:18:04 <steve30> ah, that is a PowerMac G4, like mine.
00:22:07 <Ysjoelfir> I probably forget that until the next time I think about it xD
00:34:41 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/hicfxufk8rs51.jpg He does not scream, for he is not uncertain about his circumstances: the house IS flesh.
00:36:36 <coppice> The matryoshka variety of pumpkin
01:41:26 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gallery/xU4jXol
01:42:07 <K> what
01:45:09 <rust_collector> at least it is not elvis or jesus this time
01:51:58 <coppice> that doesn't deserve a laugh. it barely deserves a snicker
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01:54:19 <Ampera> mmm power macs
01:54:24 <Ampera> I have a Power Mac G5 right next to me
01:54:26 <Ampera> dual CPU
02:56:33 * Ysjoelfir finished adding the 49th reel of passives with datasheets and stuff to his database.... (197-49) to go
02:56:40 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi rusty
02:56:58 <Ysjoelfir> hsn is awaiting his 666 palets of nordic semicon stuff
02:57:25 <Ysjoelfir> also, your order for Bahrainian Train Toilet Co. Ltd. helped, the shares went up a few percents
03:03:49 <rust_collector> neat
03:04:37 <rust_collector> I got the wrong headlights, but the handbrake cable I ordered wrong was right
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03:18:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol. so that makes... two wrong which resulted in one right. sounds legit?
03:18:51 <rust_collector> aaaai
03:19:23 <rust_collector> yez
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03:39:12 <rust_collector> time for dinner
03:41:25 <Ysjoelfir> bring some over, will you?
03:41:51 <rust_collector> no, I will eat it
03:42:06 <rust_collector> sorry, but it is not wallpaper glue this time
03:42:26 <Ysjoelfir> aww
03:42:29 <Ysjoelfir> what is it then?
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03:42:39 <rust_collector> you have the book, it has to be in there
03:42:56 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sure, but I don't know the name :P
03:43:25 <rust_collector> elgkaker og gratinerte poteter
03:43:52 <rust_collector> with broccoli and cream sauce with bacon
03:44:05 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds delicious!
03:44:17 <rust_collector> very food-ish
03:54:38 <rust_collector> https://www.tine.no/oppskrifter/middag-og-hovedretter/gronnsaker-og-poteter/fl%C3%B8tegratinerte-poteter
03:55:16 <Polesch> Smaker det noe godt da?
03:55:23 <rust_collector> that might be my favourite sort of food. even if I can not really eat it
03:55:32 <rust_collector> HEY! it has cheese in it
03:55:45 <Polesch> More cheese more better.
03:55:48 <rust_collector> yesss
03:56:35 <Polesch> I made that last weekend
03:58:04 <Polesch> With steak and steamed broccoli
04:01:29 <rust_collector> it does work with most things
04:38:03 <rust_collector> we used to put the broccoli in the potato stuff, that was nice too
04:51:20 <Ysjoelfir> We have something thats called "KArtoffelgratin". Very simmilar. And also very tasty
04:51:36 <rust_collector> yeah, same stuff
04:51:36 <Ysjoelfir> I think I'll do that on some of the coming days, you created an appetite now xD
04:52:23 <rust_collector> Some people put apple in there too. but... I dunno
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04:59:25 <lordmess> hi there greetings from Greece
04:59:36 <rust_collector> hi greece
05:00:19 <Lord_of_nothing> @lordmess thets where my oil, cheese, olives come from
05:01:27 <lordmess> @Lord_of_nothing yes we produce many goods here
05:01:52 <Lord_of_nothing> lol... but when it come to paying tax...
05:02:49 <lordmess> I was looking at Dave videos about tools for electronics lab and he mention ck tools for tweezers. Isn't there any other good brands? CK were too expensive
05:03:49 <rust_collector> go to your dentist, and rummage thru his drawers?
05:05:01 <lordmess> @Lord_of_nothing we are not good at paying tax thats true
05:07:36 <rust_collector> Someone mentioned hakko had some good tweezers that were not too expensive...
05:09:42 <Lord_of_nothing> Haha you are so true... What is your personal favorite food?
05:09:55 <Lord_of_nothing> I was 2x in Greece once per Train and one per Plane.
05:10:27 <rust_collector> hmm, how long does it take on a train?
05:12:02 <lordmess> @Lord_of_nothing pizza or spaggeti
05:13:31 <lordmess> I saw some Hakko ones on amazon I'll try them. They are almost 25% the cost of a Ck.
05:14:55 <rust_collector> https://www.knipex.com/nc/en/products/?page=groups&groupID=1370
05:22:55 <lordmess> well i guess the good ones cost. Maybe I'll have to stop paying my taxes and buy a good one.
05:23:27 <rust_collector> but just how awesome do you need them to be?
05:24:22 * Ysjoelfir uses the cheap 10(?)€ china tweezers for serious work
05:24:45 <lordmess> I want them to be antistatic and antimagnetic
05:26:35 <lordmess> knippex seem good
05:26:56 <lordmess> thanks for the info guys. bye
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05:27:08 <rust_collector> have fun
05:27:32 <rust_collector> I wonder why people always say knippex
05:28:08 <rust_collector> i should buy knippex.com, and sell pictures of knipex tools
05:44:44 <Ysjoelfir> XD do that
05:45:03 <Ysjoelfir> also, my china tweezers are antistatic and not magnetic...
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05:45:37 <Nothing\> welp, i finally got my on sale copy of new super mario bros wii u deluxe
05:45:53 <rust_collector> is it antistatic?
05:46:05 <Nothing\> one can only hope
05:46:11 <rust_collector> ok
05:46:17 <Nothing\> but yeah, the game wasn't $30
05:46:20 <rust_collector> uhm. is it magnetic?
05:46:22 <Nothing\> it was $30 OFF
05:46:41 <Nothing\> rust_collector, the vape pen i use for smoking shatter is magnetic
05:47:16 <Nothing\> everything clips together with magnets
05:47:33 <Nothing\> and fairly well, too
05:48:07 <rust_collector> heh
05:48:12 <rust_collector> magnets can be fun
05:48:18 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
05:48:19 <Nothing\> but yeah, when i read that the game was on sale, i assumed that on the eshop. so initially i went out and got a $50 card for that cuz they don't sell $30 cards
05:48:40 * Nothing\ gives Ampera and extra big hug for today
05:49:16 <Nothing\> but no, the game was still $80 online, which is more than i wanna pay for a 2d mario game
05:49:21 <Ampera> <3 <3 <3
05:49:23 <Ampera> I bought a new monitor
05:49:32 <Ampera> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CS4KF7J
05:49:41 <Nothing\> so after much digging in the news, it turns out the sale is only at walmart and a few other stores
05:49:52 <Nothing\> so i went to walmart and picked it up this morning
05:50:10 <Nothing\> oooh Ampera
05:50:16 <Nothing\> seeeexy
05:50:30 <Ampera> yee
05:50:36 <Ampera> got it cheap(er) on prime day
05:51:13 <Nothing\> what are the dimensions?
05:51:29 <Nothing\> cuz i don't think diagonal size fora curved screen is the same as it is for a flat screen
05:52:01 <Nothing\> so i'd imagine they'd give the X x Y dimensions
05:52:21 <Nothing\> i'd be interested to know how wide it is
05:52:58 <Ampera> one sec
05:53:25 <Ampera> eevblog convert 1195.8mm to inches
05:53:25 <EEVBlog> The result is: 47.079 inches
05:53:30 <Ampera> that wide
05:53:32 <Ampera> and
05:53:38 <Ampera> eevblog convert 336.3mm to inches
05:53:38 <EEVBlog> The result is: 13.24 inches
05:53:40 <Ampera> that tall
05:54:08 <Nothing\> man, it's weird
05:54:15 <Nothing\> i got the sims 4 yesterday right
05:54:36 <Nothing\> went to play it, tells me i'm missing some DLL for microsoft visual c++ redistributable
05:55:01 <Nothing\> so i check, and i have the version of MSVCPPR it's looking for
05:56:08 <Nothing\> but for shits and giggles i look up the actual dll from a video with a fix for the game and download it and when i went to put it in the folder, it's not the same size as the one i already have
05:56:15 <Nothing\> really weird
05:56:49 <Nothing\> but i hate having to screw around with stuff like that when you get a game
05:57:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's impressive
05:57:51 <Ampera> It's got a lot of things I like about it, if I could nitpick one thing, I wish it had 10bpc color
05:58:11 <Ampera> but the dual edge sword of that is just because a monitor says it can do 10bpc color doesn't mean it can display it better than a nicer monitor that can only do 8bpc color
05:58:42 <Nothing\> is onkyo a good brand for stereo equipment
05:59:04 <Nothing\> i got about 3 or 4 onkyo brand receivers from my uncle's stuff. some of them look nice
05:59:20 <Ampera> No clue, I tend to stick to headphones myself
05:59:28 <Ampera> my headphones are absolutely delicious actually
05:59:29 <Ampera> I really love them
05:59:44 <Nothing\> Ampera, my tv has 4 elements to its pixels for some reason
05:59:55 <Nothing\> the standard red, green and blue
05:59:58 <Nothing\> plus white
06:00:11 <Ampera> it's possible you're just seeing backlight leak
06:00:15 <Ampera> does it actually change intensity?
06:00:19 <Nothing\> nope
06:00:22 <Ampera> is it OLED?
06:00:26 <Nothing\> nope
06:00:34 <Nothing\> i'll take a pic through a microscope
06:00:39 <Nothing\> or try to
06:00:39 <Ampera> oh wait, it doesn't change intensity
06:00:42 <Ampera> then it's backlight bleed
06:00:52 <Nothing\> no i meant it's not OLED
06:00:58 <Ampera> it's weird it'd look like another element, but all LCDs have some backlight bleed
06:01:03 <Nothing\> in does change intensity
06:01:04 <Ampera> so does it change intensity based off the luma?
06:01:07 <Ampera> ah
06:01:09 <Ampera> then that's strange
06:01:25 <Nothing\> lemme see if i can take a pic througha microscope
06:01:37 <Nothing\> if i can find my microscope
06:01:43 <rust_collector> hmm onkyo... was that the test brand for sony? or was that aiwa?
06:01:53 <Nothing\> fucking brother completel rearranged my living room for no good reason on thanksgiving
06:02:22 <Nothing\> i've decided i'm going to take to his shrink about what he's been doing and the extent of his presciption abuse
06:02:34 <Nothing\> and how stressful it is for my mother and i
06:03:05 <Nothing\> if it didn't have anything to do with my mom i wouldn't care. but it's stressing her out bad and it's not fair to her
06:03:43 <Nothing\> i felt bad about going behind my brother's back like that. i was afraid he'd get cut off cold turkey. but i see the same doctor and know he wouldn't do that
06:04:49 <Nothing\> i figure he'll gradually taper him off and then hopefully he won't need to take it anymore. cuz it's clearly doing more harm than good if he's not taking it properly.
06:05:04 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i couldn't tell you
06:05:43 <Nothing\> hrm i can't find my microscope
06:07:19 <Nothing\> but yeah Ampera i figured it had something to do with chroma of the picture
06:07:31 <Ampera> why would it have anything to do with chroma
06:07:32 <Nothing\> maybe to enhance chroma or something, i dunno
06:07:33 <Ampera> it's monochromatic
06:07:45 <Nothing\> then brightness
06:07:50 <Ampera> luminance
06:07:56 <Ampera> think, luma, light
06:07:57 <Nothing\> that one
06:07:58 <Nothing\> lol
06:18:02 <Nothing\> oh cool, astra-256 got 27 new op-codes
06:21:14 <hsn> [18:56] Ysjoelfir: hsn is awaiting his 666 palets of nordic semicon stuff
06:21:14 <hsn> [18:57] Ysjoelfir: also, your order for Bahrainian Train Toilet Co. Ltd. helped, the shares went up a few percents
06:21:29 <hsn> i swear i ve no idea what u talking about hahaha
06:22:28 <rust_collector> it looks like your company bought parts to automate 900 train toilets, from the company Ysjoelfir owns 34% of
06:22:43 <Nothing\> lol i just got an automated call saying "your social insurance (canadian social security) number is about to be suspended due to fraudulent activity blah blah blah please press 1 to speak to an agent to resolve this"
06:23:03 <rust_collector> so now you can sit at home and connect to the toilet over bluetooth, or whatever they use
06:23:31 <Nothing\> so i pressed 1, the guy answered "revenue canada" which is canada's IRS so i dunno what they would have to do with social insurance numbers but i'll play along
06:23:57 <Nothing\> so i asked the guy "you're revenue canada? is there any way you can prove this to me"
06:24:03 <Nothing\> and the guy just hung up on me lol
06:24:50 <rust_collector> hmm, who DOES have something to do with those numbers then?
06:25:36 <Nothing\> well, service ontario deals with social security i believe
06:25:56 <Nothing\> i think it's a provincial deal, where the tax people are obviously federal
06:26:03 <rust_collector> so it is a local thing.
06:26:06 <rust_collector> ok
06:26:33 <Nothing\> nope my bad
06:26:40 <Nothing\> socials are federal
06:27:27 <Nothing\> all it says on the site for them though is "government of canada.... government du canada"
06:27:40 <Nothing\> oh snap
06:27:45 <Nothing\> that's what i should do
06:27:51 <Nothing\> next time somebody like that calls me
06:28:00 <Nothing\> i should request services in french
06:28:10 <Nothing\> cuz they're always indian people, right
06:28:21 <Nothing\> but it's the law here that you have access to such services in french
06:28:27 <rust_collector> hah!
06:28:51 <Nothing\> i could put on a phoney french accent and say i don't speak english very well and request services in french
06:29:15 <rust_collector> so now you have to learn some weird french accent... that should be fun
06:29:28 <Nothing\> oh i already know it
06:29:45 <Nothing\> andenough french that i can talk french to them a bit if need be
06:30:18 <Nothing\> i'll tell him where the library is but fucking good
06:31:22 <Nothing\> sooo tired
06:31:25 <Nothing\> i keep nodding
06:33:01 <Nothing\> oh yeah, got another heat sink from my brother's FC Twin that was buggered
06:33:26 <rust_collector> fc twin?
06:33:42 <Nothing\> it was for 2 7805s and they were just screwed on so i could get it off easy
06:33:53 <Nothing\> rust_collector, NES and SNES in one
06:33:58 <rust_collector> oh
06:34:39 <Nothing\> it had a pin that somehow got inside it and wound up shorting out a set of traces and then welding itself in place. so they system was dead
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06:37:07 <Nothing\> wound up settling right next to this chip that acts as the SNES's PPU
06:37:51 <Nothing\> and the SNES board is the board that all of the inputs, like th controllers goes through, no matter what systemyou're using
06:38:25 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i should take the boards off and have a butcher's at the other side
06:39:33 <Nothing\> that's right, my living room's been rearranged so i have no clue where it or anything else is
06:39:46 <Nothing\> lol but i did find the recorder i bought from the dollar store
06:39:58 <Nothing\> you like, like the flute
06:40:39 <Nothing\> i felt like learning a new instrument without having to put my lips on a cat's butthole
06:41:22 <Nothing\> play him like a set of bagpipes lololz
06:42:00 <rust_collector> I think you need a hug or something right now
06:42:41 <rust_collector> butt, when I think about it, if you blow hard enough into a cat, it will probably sounds pretty much the same as a recorder
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06:45:09 <Nothing\> there actually was an instrument conceived in germany that was made from living cats
06:45:39 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, a cat piano or something?
06:45:42 <Nothing\> called a katzenklavier
06:45:46 <Nothing\> yup
06:46:42 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_organ
06:50:02 <rust_collector> that is what people did before the internet
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06:58:40 <Some_Person> that sounds awful for the cats
06:59:55 <Nothing\> you guys think magic jacks still work?
07:00:36 <Nothing\> lol i looked inside and there's this one SMD chip on just labeled "magic chip"
07:03:31 <Nothing\> Some_Person, well thankfully one was never actually created
07:04:05 <Nothing\> i saw a video of some sort of non-english speaking teenagers lighting a cat on fire
07:04:10 <Nothing\> it was so sad
07:04:42 <Nothing\> it not only tore my heart in half, but it does so every time i remember it, tioo
07:05:19 <Nothing\> i don't mind videos of people getting hurt, but i can't tolerate animals getting hurt
07:05:31 <Nothing\> espcially cats
07:06:08 <Nothing\> i grew up with cats through all my childhood, teenage and young adult years
07:06:32 <Nothing\> they'll always have a speac part in my heart no matter what
07:08:20 <Nothing\> i dunno why i used to watch fuked up videos like that that i knew would be upsetting
07:08:33 <Nothing\> attempt at desensitization i guess
07:09:11 <rust_collector> I like watching people climbing on tall things, but I do not like watching it. but I like it
07:26:38 <Nothing\> heh i watched a guy climb a radio mast to change the bulb in it once on youtube and my palms were actually sweating pretty bad from it
07:26:59 <rust_collector> yeah
07:27:47 <rust_collector> but something still makes me keep watching
07:28:55 <Nothing\> heh that's like me and gore back in the day
07:29:02 <Nothing\> though i don't watch gore anymore
07:29:34 <Nothing\> unless it's only gorey incidentally and is for medical education
07:30:29 <rust_collector> I have to admit that I did sort of like the "indian fidget spinner" video, which I think was from south america somewhere
07:32:51 <electrohead> o/
07:33:08 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
07:33:11 <Nothing\> how's it going?
07:33:14 <electrohead> hey man
07:33:16 <Nothing\> watcha up to?
07:33:20 <electrohead> it's going, just logging in from work
07:33:25 <Nothing\> right on
07:33:28 <electrohead> it died down finally
07:33:39 <Nothing\> i was just watching the latest technology connections video about furnaces
07:33:58 <electrohead> well err, at the business end of things; the fucking warehouse forgot to put our stock on the truck >:|
07:34:09 <Nothing\> oh lovely
07:34:14 <Nothing\> that's a paddlin'
07:34:45 <electrohead> yeah, and now it's coming tomorrow, the day where our big order comes in. then to make it worse, out of all fucking days, the third order needs to be picked up tomorrow
07:34:52 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i still need to call the industrial supply company and order earplugs
07:34:53 <electrohead> so, going to be busy as fuck tomorrow, guh
07:35:10 <electrohead> mm, lastly - fuck comcast!
07:35:20 <electrohead> monopolized assholes, they are
07:35:25 <Nothing\> i sleep with earplugs cuz they're a better sleep aid than any drug i ever took, but the ones in the stores are so expensive
07:35:39 * electrohead sends you headphones :P
07:35:43 <Nothing\> it's something like $12 for a pack of 10 pairs
07:36:12 <electrohead> ever get those reusable/moldable ear plugs?
07:36:18 <Nothing\> so i order those yellow foam ones that 3M makes from an industrial supply company for $25 for 200 pairs lol
07:36:20 <electrohead> I remember a guy in the military had them, and lived by them
07:36:28 <electrohead> oh damn, ok, that's a better price haha
07:36:37 <Nothing\> yeah dirt cheap
07:36:46 <Nothing\> and they work so good
07:37:22 <Nothing\> they have a frequency vs attenuation chart on them bet i wen,t go through all of that
07:37:25 <rust_collector> well, hot glue is pretty cheap, and works well also
07:37:33 <electrohead> lol
07:37:52 <Nothing\> rust_collector, originally they used to use cotton impregnated with wax
07:38:40 <rust_collector> well, before that, they used turnips.
07:39:24 * Ampera hugs electrohead and Nothing\
07:39:26 <Nothing\> i've never actually had turnip
07:39:34 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3 <3 <3
07:40:14 * Ampera gives rust collector some FeO-Al thermite
07:40:28 <Ampera> er, rust_collector
07:40:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, i got a vape pen for weed... well for shatter but same thing
07:40:36 <Nothing\> shatter's just an extract
07:40:39 <Ampera> idk what happened to the underscore
07:40:42 <rust_collector> ok, is that different to regular thermite cans?
07:40:53 <Ampera> to wha?
07:41:01 <Nothing\> it was free, but the catch is they don't make coils for them anymore so one the coil dies that's it
07:41:34 * Ampera kills T3sl4's co1l
07:41:48 <Nothing\> but so far this thing is way more efficient than just smoking it and it doesn't destroy my lungs
07:42:08 <Nothing\> so i've decided to buy a good one when money permits it
07:42:14 <Ampera> I did a shave and went sideways on accident :/
07:42:23 <Ampera> bit annoying
07:42:24 <Nothing\> oopsy
07:42:29 <Nothing\> how bad was the cut?
07:42:35 <Ampera> not my face thankfully
07:42:37 <Ampera> eh
07:42:41 <Nothing\> i don't actually cut myself too often shaving
07:42:47 <Ampera> as far as lacerations go not too too bad
07:43:00 <Nothing\> sometimes i'll cut my nosehow
07:43:03 <Ampera> It's on the underside of my leg
07:43:14 <Nothing\> but face cuts heal fas
07:43:47 * Ampera bites Nothing\ on the face happily then
07:43:48 <rust_collector> as long as it was not between your toes. that is really annoying
07:43:59 <Nothing\> Ampera, finally got my mario game on sale
07:44:06 <Ampera> nice
07:44:15 <Nothing\> i don't remember if i told you about the sale they had for thanksgiving up here for the switch
07:44:28 <Nothing\> which i assumed was for the eshop, so i went out and bought a $50 card
07:44:39 <Nothing\> went on the store, prices were still normal
07:44:55 <Ampera> huh
07:45:01 <Nothing\> so i look at the article again and it turns out it's for walmart and toys r us and a few other stores
07:45:03 <Ampera> I forgot that was yesterday
07:45:14 <Ampera> you silly canucks
07:45:16 <Nothing\> so i went to walmart and got it this morning
07:45:25 <Nothing\> yeah toys r us still exists here
07:45:27 <Nothing\> lol
07:45:34 <Ampera> it does here too
07:45:46 <Nothing\> oh really? i thought it died completely
07:46:37 <Ampera> nope
07:47:15 <Nothing\> but yeah, it was for new super mario bros wii u ultimate
07:47:33 <Nothing\> which was fucking $80 normally, so i couldn't justify spending that much on a 2d mario game
07:48:44 <Nothing\> didn't have the money, so i borrowed yet more money from my mom on top of what i owed her for the eshop card
07:49:28 <Nothing\> but that's the great thing about her, if she has it, she'll lend you whatever money you need
07:49:47 <Nothing\> or me anyway, my brother never paid her back so she said fuck it
07:56:00 <Nothing\> phew i just forgot what time it was
07:56:09 <Nothing\> i nodded off for a second and thought it was early morning
07:56:22 <Nothing\> cuz taht's usually when i'm nodding like this
07:59:52 <Nothing\> here Ampera
07:59:54 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/0C3566m
08:00:02 <Nothing\> i got a pic of both of my kitties at once
08:00:19 <Nothing\> lol they always sleep on their back like that for some reason
08:01:41 <Nothing\> i think it's funny cuz luci's got a white bikini
08:01:50 <Ampera> aww
08:01:51 <Ampera> the cutes
08:08:19 * electrohead hugs back
08:10:27 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
08:12:23 <electrohead> good, just told Nothing\ before about my love day here at work so far, our one order was "forgotten about" and never came
08:12:28 <electrohead> still pissed about that, lol
08:12:52 <rust_collector> but now you have something to look forward to tomorrow!
08:12:54 <Nothing\> heh
08:13:33 <Nothing\> !w brantford, ontario
08:13:46 <Nothing\> no weather on the bot?
08:14:05 <Nothing\> you mean i have to look it up on a website like some sort of caveman
08:15:23 <rust_collector> 17
08:15:23 <rust_collector> °C
08:15:23 <rust_collector> Feels like16
08:15:23 <rust_collector> Wind17
08:15:23 <rust_collector> Wkm/h
08:15:23 <rust_collector> Humidity42
08:15:25 <rust_collector> %
08:15:27 <rust_collector> Visibility24
08:15:29 <rust_collector> km
08:15:31 <rust_collector> Sunrise7:33
08:15:33 <rust_collector> AM
08:15:35 <rust_collector> Wind gust26
08:15:37 <rust_collector> km/h
08:15:39 <rust_collector> Pressure101.5
08:15:41 <rust_collector> kPa
08:15:43 <rust_collector> Ceiling10000
08:15:47 <rust_collector> m
08:15:49 <rust_collector> Sunset6:40
08:15:51 <rust_collector> PM
08:16:16 * Ampera smacks the fuck out of rust_collector
08:16:28 * Ampera picks up rust_collector's fuck and smacks him some more with it
08:17:01 <rust_collector> kinky
08:17:53 <rust_collector> you have 12c more than me... feels like 2
08:19:19 <Nothing\> ah
08:19:27 <Nothing\> the best part about nodding off for a good long time
08:19:47 <Nothing\> is that first puff or few puffs of the ecig to get my nicotine levels back up
08:19:54 <rust_collector> be careful, next time you wake up, it will be christmas
08:19:57 <Nothing\> feeels so good
08:20:17 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol back in the day i used to pass out for 2 or 3 days at a time
08:20:27 <Nothing\> well, black out
08:20:55 <Nothing\> so i'd have no memory of entire couple of days
08:22:01 <rust_collector> yeah. I am still trying to figure out what I did from the 26th of december 2001 to the 4th of january 2002, and why was I halfway across the country? Oh well.
08:22:20 <Ampera> Well that was just before I was born so
08:22:26 <Ampera> perhaps that's related
08:22:41 <rust_collector> I had to sneak on the train, and hide in the toilet to get back, lol
08:22:54 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, I guess it was probably you
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08:28:28 <Halcyon> Morning all
08:29:00 <rust_collector> Morning you
08:29:22 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Joseph Chiu: @eevblog @retrotink2 @nezbrun @MicrochipTech One of my bucket list items is to shave enough off the BOM on a single component to pay for my annual income.
08:31:18 <electrohead> g'morning \o/
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10:20:09 * Ampera kisses Halcyon
10:26:55 <Halcyon> :D
10:36:57 <Nothing\> gonna try this weed delivery service. see if it's all it's cracked up to be
10:39:39 <Nothing\> well that was easy
10:40:01 <Halcyon> o.O
10:41:05 <Nothing\> i found another black market dispensary the other day. they had an entire damn wall just full of shelves of jars filled with weed
10:41:14 <Ampera> nice
10:41:30 <Nothing\> and that's a shame, delivery guy just called back to tell me he deosn't have the shatter i was looking for
10:41:30 <Ampera> Halcyon, what's that for
10:41:43 <Halcyon> Drugs are bad :P
10:41:47 <Nothing\> but oh well, hopefully what he gives me instead will be just as ood
10:41:47 <Ampera> why
10:41:51 <Ampera> weed's fine
10:41:56 <Nothing\> Halcyon, weed isn't a drug, it's natural
10:42:00 <Ampera> ...
10:42:03 <Ampera> so is heroin
10:42:05 <Halcyon> Makes you stupid
10:42:07 <Ampera> and tobacco
10:42:10 <Nothing\> Ampera, actually tbh, weed has screwed me up pretty bad psychologically
10:42:13 <Ampera> Halcyon, ah so you speak from experience then
10:42:14 <Ampera> gotcha
10:42:23 <Nothing\> and it's a lot more addictive than people make it out to be
10:42:30 <Ampera> so is alcohol
10:42:30 <Halcyon> Ampera: Yep, seen friends and people in my line of work fuck themselves up
10:42:35 <Halcyon> All kinds of mental issues etc...
10:42:44 <Ampera> you can say the exact same things about alcohol
10:42:50 <Halcyon> Yes, you can
10:42:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah but people figure weed isn't physically addictive so there's no problem
10:42:53 <Ampera> I've seen people fuck themselves up with that too
10:42:55 <Nothing\> but you still crave it
10:43:01 <Nothing\> you still do desperate shit for it
10:43:02 <Halcyon> But there is no "beneficial" amount of drugs
10:43:16 <Halcyon> A small to moderate alcohol consumption actually has some health benefits
10:43:17 <Ampera> there is no beneficial amount of alchol
10:43:31 <Ampera> sounds like liver damage to me
10:43:34 <Nothing\> like picking tiny crumbs of weed out of your carpet and smoking the mix of weed, carpet, fuzz and dust
10:43:51 <Halcyon> In large amounts, yes. A healthy liver isn't damaged by moderate alcohol consumption
10:44:38 <Nothing\> Ampera, i dunno if it's the alcohol or other compounds, or if the alcohol works together with other compounds but i do know that red wine has an antioxidant effect. in low doses of course. like half a glass a day
10:45:30 <Ampera> doesn't grape juice have similar effects?
10:45:30 <Halcyon> Antioxidants aside, it can reduce your risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes
10:45:49 <Ampera> weed has a variety of claimed medical benefits too
10:46:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'm not sure but i'm assuming grapes have... oh what's that stuff called
10:46:13 <Halcyon> Weed can be useful for some people
10:46:22 <Halcyon> But not in a healthy person
10:46:49 <Nothing\> the reddish/bluish/purplish antioxidant. it's in plums and pomegranates
10:46:52 <Ampera> I think both are a sin and both should be illegal
10:46:53 <Nothing\> anthocyanins
10:47:04 <Ampera> we should have never stopped the war on drugs and should have extended it to alcohol
10:47:14 <Nothing\> i was gonna say, i would assume dark grapes are packed with anthocyanins
10:47:23 <Halcyon> Why though? Don't you want a less restrictive society?
10:47:46 <Ampera> No I want a more restrictive society where nobody gets rights
10:47:53 <Ampera> people shouldn't have rights to their bodies, to their minds, or to their opinions
10:47:59 <Halcyon> So you want to be able to do the things YOU want to do, but fuck everyone else?
10:48:00 <Ampera> the government should approve and overreach all
10:48:03 <Ampera> no
10:48:09 <Halcyon> Sounds like it
10:48:11 <Ampera> I want to be shot in the head
10:48:13 <Nothing\> one way to check is to take some red grape juice and add an alkaline like baking soda mixed with water. anthocyanins turn green when they're in a basic environment
10:48:17 <Ampera> like all the other fucking sinners
10:48:24 <Nothing\> i even made a youtube video demonstrating it
10:48:42 <Nothing\> and then it all goes wrong
10:48:44 <Ampera> I eat a lot of calcium carbonate for heartburn
10:48:48 <Ampera> guess that makes me a basic bitch
10:48:51 <Nothing\> me too
10:48:54 <Nothing\> it works great
10:49:06 <Nothing\> the second it hits your stomach, BAM you'recured
10:49:15 <Ampera> sort of like cyanide
10:49:29 <Nothing\> i use sodium bicarbonate too, but i worry about the sodium content
10:49:49 <Ampera> cyanide is actually great at curing one of the most prevalent terminal STDs on the planet
10:49:55 <Nothing\> plus it's gross to eat a half a spoonfull of baking soda
10:50:19 <Nothing\> Ampera, cyanide's supposed to taste/smell strongly of almonds
10:50:46 <Nothing\> there are a couple of cody's lab videos where he drinks a solution of cyanide
10:50:46 <Halcyon> I did a job once with a guy who killed himself after he stole 500 grams of cyanide salts
10:50:58 <Halcyon> He didn't need that much
10:51:14 <Ampera> lucky :/
10:51:24 <Nothing\> not much, just a bit. the point was to show it's the dose that makes the poison. not the substance.
10:51:40 <Ampera> botulinum
10:51:56 <Nothing\> if i ever committed suicide
10:52:26 <Ampera> if I ever commited suicide, it'd be throwing myself into a skip, and waitning to be crushed to death in a trash compactor
10:52:35 <Ampera> because I'm a worthless peice of shit that deserves no better
10:53:02 * Halcyon licks Ampera
10:53:06 <Nothing\> i'd go to the top of a high building, tie high strength fishing line around my neck. tie the other end to something sturdy.then superglue my hands to my head and jump.
10:53:10 <Ampera> I'm impressed at how many spelling mistakes I made in that one sentence
10:53:19 <Ampera> Nothing\, get off bash you muppet
10:53:21 <Nothing\> to anyone who finds me, it would appear i ripped my own head off
10:53:27 <Nothing\> bash?
10:53:31 <Ampera> ...
10:53:34 <Ampera> standby
10:53:47 <Nothing\> you lost me
10:53:54 <Nothing\> anyways, seriously though
10:54:04 <Ampera> http://bash.org/?488793
10:54:06 <Nothing\> i'd probably asphyxiate myself with helium
10:54:21 <Nothing\> or lacking that, nitrous oxide
10:54:58 <Ampera> what's seriously genius about my sense of humor is I always tell only slight exadderations of the truth
10:55:12 <damian> sup
10:55:13 <Ampera> just slight enough to not be serious, but truthful enough to where it's funny
10:55:16 <Nothing\> things like helium, nitrous or pure nitrogen are good that way because your body doesn't detect your suffocating and hence you don't panic the way you do with simple asphyxiation
10:55:21 <Ampera> good evening damian
10:55:55 <Nothing\> it's the rise in co2 that makes asphyxiation painful
10:56:09 <Nothing\> the extra co2 in your blood makes it acidic
10:56:47 <Ampera> suicide is supposed to be painful
10:56:53 <Ampera> to remind you that you're a complete and total failure
10:57:07 <Ampera> and that you don't deserve a painless death because your death won't be painless for others
10:57:18 <Nothing\> there's actually a legit book that's a manual for committing suicide for people who can't get euthanized
10:57:26 <Nothing\> i forget what it's called though
10:58:00 <Nothing\> but it's all about ike, why you would do it, things to consider, then methods that are least painful and so on
10:58:20 <Nothing\> not at all like alt.suicide.holidays if you ever read that manual
10:58:29 <Nothing\> that manual was just dumb
10:58:35 <Ampera> alt.suicide.holidays?
10:58:43 <Ampera> that's a usenet group if I've ever heard one before
10:58:52 <Nothing\> yup
10:58:59 <Ampera> if I still had my supernews subscription I'd see if it were real
10:59:08 <Nothing\> one method that i still remember
10:59:27 <Nothing\> was taking propane and pouring it into a bucket, since it's a liquid
10:59:33 <Nothing\> and immersing your hand in it
10:59:37 <Ampera> stuffing yourself into your own oven, and turning on the cleaning cycle remotely so it locks the door
10:59:40 <Nothing\> somehow this would kill you
11:00:16 <Nothing\> i dunno if the propane was supposed to absorb into your body, in which case it's no worse than huffing propane
11:00:50 <Ampera> the issue is propane is only a liquid under pressure
11:00:52 <Nothing\> which is no worse than huffing butane or gasoline. i mean it's not good for you by any means. but it's not going to kill your instantly like they say it will.
11:00:56 <Ampera> so it'd boil almost instantly
11:01:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol that too
11:01:29 <Ampera> if you managed to crack open a propane tank you'd likely get a particularly rapid and violent boil and expansion
11:01:33 <Nothing\> you'd need a heavier alkane like butan or heptane
11:01:37 <Ampera> along with some really neat supercooling
11:01:48 <Nothing\> Ampera, and probably and explosion
11:02:02 <Nothing\> since i doubt they took any ignitionsources into account
11:02:03 <Ampera> eh, it'd have to catch a spark
11:02:23 <Ampera> all these suicide methods are boring though
11:02:34 <Nothing\> you're reading it?
11:02:37 <Ampera> where's the suffering, the life regret, the ability to reflect upon your own imperfections
11:02:38 <Ampera> no
11:02:41 <Nothing\> oh
11:02:42 <Ampera> just the ones we're talking about
11:02:45 <Ampera> they're dumb
11:02:48 <Ampera> pussy shit
11:04:18 <Nothing\> years ago when i was actually suicidal i always said i'd take a buncha sleeping and/or pain pils. put in earplugs and just lie on some railroad tracks with decent traffic with my head or neck on the track
11:04:40 <Nothing\> at night in black, so they couldn't see me
11:04:46 <Ampera> boring
11:05:05 <Ampera> I'd rather be impaled, ass to mouth, and end up bleeding to death right then and there
11:05:09 <Nothing\> i wanted to die. not entertain.
11:05:10 <Ampera> it would be really cool if it took hours
11:05:43 <Nothing\> you wouldn't be saying that if you know how much pain the human body can create
11:06:15 <Ampera> I may be a masochist
11:06:16 <Nothing\> it's a lot more than most can understand. including myself.
11:07:12 <Nothing\> lol i also just remembered a news group about how to fuck dolphins
11:07:26 <Nothing\> like, totally serious
11:07:54 <Nothing\> at least i'm assuming that was the end game, i never made it past the liebenspiel
11:08:22 <Nothing\> but liebenspiel with a dolphin is weird enough
11:08:38 <Nothing\> (love play)
11:09:57 <Ampera> Nothing\, I often wonder which one of us is the more fucked up
11:10:04 <Ampera> I swear this channel is turning into a mental ward
11:10:14 <Ampera> I sometimes feel bad about it, but nobody seems to mind that much
11:10:21 <Nothing\> that just means it's more interesting
11:10:37 <Nothing\> yeah i mean as long as nobody cares, it's cool
11:11:20 <Nothing\> but truth be told, i know what you mean. i feel like i'm constantly talking about drugs and it makes me feel bad
11:11:36 <Ampera> which just makes me more inclined to talk about things that depress me
11:11:46 <Ampera> which isn't hard to do to be honest
11:13:05 <Nothing\> i got this cool cheat sheet in this calculus textbook i snagged from my cousin
11:13:52 <Nothing\> it's weird, some of it is just simple grade school geometry, like the circumference and volume of a circle
11:14:06 <Nothing\> or sphere
11:23:35 <Halcyon> LOL https://twitter.com/HostFission/status/1315913491350339584
11:24:23 <Ampera> Halcyon, password auth ssh?
11:26:37 <Halcyon> Knowing gnif, I doubt it very much
11:27:25 <Halcyon> His IDS sent an email to Cyclone Servers about attacks coming from their IP, they responded by blocking him ;P
11:28:01 Quit: DogWomble ([email protected]) EOF from client
11:28:18 <Ampera> if he did his sshd config right there's nothing to worry about
11:28:30 <Ampera> I got those all the time when I ran a not as secure as it should have been pi on 22 open to the world
11:28:32 <Ampera> I've since learned my lesson
11:28:43 <Ampera> thankfully not from having to deal with a security breach
11:29:27 <Nothing\> huuuuuuuuuuuungry
11:29:30 <Nothing\> braaaaaaaaaaaaains
11:29:35 <Halcyon> Regardless of the port number
11:29:52 <Halcyon> It looks bad for a server hosting company to be sending out attacks like that
11:30:49 <Ampera> Halcyon, I agree they handled it like shit
11:31:02 <Ampera> but it could be any server of theirs and twitter isn't exactly an offical abuse channel
11:31:16 <Ampera> though he did seem to try proper channels first
11:31:21 <Ampera> so this is not an inapt response
11:31:25 <Halcyon> He reported the abuse directly to the company
11:31:39 <Halcyon> It was Cyclone Servers who responded on Twitter
11:34:55 <Nothing\> mmmmmm mint chocolate chip ice cream
11:35:56 <Halcyon> Mmm
11:45:06 <DHess_US> https://youtu.be/8P9T-gpLzyg?t=1256
11:46:02 <Halcyon> steve30: https://www.bumsforthebush.com/
11:57:54 <damian> bum bum buuummmmmm
11:58:09 <Halcyon> :P
11:58:49 <Halcyon> YAY! My solder sucker has arrived at home
11:59:01 <damian> new sexy toy, nice
11:59:06 <damian> that's always exciting
11:59:12 <Halcyon> :P
12:05:12 * Ampera sucks Halcyon's "soldier"
12:13:19 <electrohead> :O
12:13:22 <electrohead> lmfao
12:13:30 <electrohead> I entered the chat at the wrong time, it seems
12:13:33 <electrohead> hahaha
12:13:35 <electrohead> just got home o/
12:17:05 * T3sl4 gives electrohead a pice of Halcyon's "sauwlduh"
12:18:52 <electrohead> I had to say that slowly at first
12:19:07 * electrohead pokes Halcyon and Ampera
12:19:21 * T3sl4 peeks Ampera and Halcyon
12:19:54 * electrohead creates a fork bomb for the peeks and pokes
12:21:52 <T3sl4> forthegloryofsatanofcourse.png
12:22:18 <MrMobodies> Hello
12:22:18 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
12:22:29 <MrMobodies> Anybody noticed the play button missing on youtube?
12:23:11 <MrMobodies> it is nothing i hid as I looked the blockers off and tried a different browser and profile
12:26:31 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/AjLKzWq.jpg
12:27:33 <damian> you broke it
12:32:06 <electrohead> eww, windows
12:32:09 * electrohead burns it
12:33:49 <T3sl4> https://gfycat.com/colossalcomposedgoshawk
12:34:23 <MrMobodies> actually three browsers open, it only seems Chrome doing it, and that is a profile I haven't used for some time
12:34:24 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/xAlA3tZ.jpg
12:34:56 <MrMobodies> the buttons is visible on Firefox, Palemoon but not chrome even with all the extensions switched off
12:35:01 <MrMobodies> a bit strange
12:36:22 <MrMobodies> now that snake looked to me like a fake rubber one at first
12:36:41 <arch> T3sl4, thats KAWAIII DESU
12:36:44 <MrMobodies> then it started to move an put its tongue out
12:37:16 * T3sl4 bonks arch with a weeb bat
12:37:35 <arch> UwU
12:38:14 <electrohead> MrMobodies: you're a palemoon user?
12:38:16 <MrMobodies> it looks at peace with the world whilst lying over that rose
12:38:17 <electrohead> fuck yes \m/
12:38:20 <arch> https://i.redd.it/cqpuzj8avzh11.png
12:38:34 <MrMobodies> yes, I use all sorts of browsers and I like see the differences
12:38:53 <T3sl4> tree fiddy
12:38:54 <arch> firefox sold themselves out
12:39:10 <arch> they just act like they're goody two shoes out to save the internet
12:39:28 <Halcyon> They do?
12:39:35 <MrMobodies> I noticed... it's full of ui decorations I had to spend time trying to get rid off.
12:39:41 <arch> yeah, to cloudflare, and google
12:39:51 <arch> and they put snippets and other bullshit
12:39:59 <electrohead> I like using palemoon a lot, and stuck with it over time
12:40:01 <arch> and recommend addons
12:40:14 <electrohead> still using pentadactyl, though
12:40:19 <MrMobodies> the url bar lights up blue, they removed the option afte rcomplaints and left with Userchrome.CSS
12:40:20 <electrohead> still need to switch up to tridactyl
13:25:16 <arch> what's the simplest, discrete way, to provide a power good signal? ex: logic low output when 12V rail is ready? i was thinking of just an opamp in inverting config
13:25:29 <arch> and compare the voltage with a resistor divider
13:31:46 <electrohead> I was thinking a voltage divider and inverter, but never tried anything as such, so you would have to either play around, or wait for a better answer from someone else
13:31:50 <electrohead> :p
13:32:16 <Halcyon> How's work going electrohead? You nearly done for the day?
13:32:30 <electrohead> I've been done for a little bit now :p
13:32:40 <electrohead> it's 2232 here right now
13:32:45 <Halcyon> I took poodle for a walk before
13:32:47 <electrohead> I got home around 2100
13:32:52 <electrohead> poodle?
13:33:03 <Halcyon> My mates' dog who I am staying with
13:33:07 <Halcyon> It's 1330 here
13:33:30 <electrohead> 2230 here currently
13:37:09 <arch> i suppose a voltage divider + inverter (and by that im assuming you meant just an NPN transistor with a pullup)
13:37:20 <arch> it wouldnt have a sharp turn on, but it would work
13:39:16 <electrohead> what do you mean a sharp turn on?
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14:32:25 <rust_collector> pprfffffttt. ok, time for coffee
14:35:11 <T3sl4> mmm, coffee
14:37:42 <rust_collector> pprfffffttt. ok, not really enough coffee...
14:45:43 <T3sl4> FRESH POTS!
14:45:54 <T3sl4> hmm, i need new coffmemes, that was /years/ ago
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15:26:49 <hsn> T3sl4: https://images.app.goo.gl/rFtiCYMGP96m85hk9
15:27:40 <T3sl4> aye
15:30:43 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/rGcgVYQ.png
15:30:57 <T3sl4> (based on xkcd 1146)
15:33:10 <steve30> hi
15:49:42 <Halcyon> Steeeeve :)
15:52:24 * steve30 sits on Halcyon's lap
15:52:30 <Halcyon> :)
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15:58:20 <jackbrown> hello
15:58:31 <steve30> hi
16:02:48 <jackbrown> steve30: can you help? I was trying to control 2 fan that are rated 12V and 3.0A (each) and at the beginning I was trying to built a speed regulator or a dimmer then I found this product on Aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32873844140.html
16:02:54 <jackbrown> steve30: what do you think?
16:06:51 * T3sl4 slides jackbrown a coffee
16:07:17 <jackbrown> T3sl4: thanks I already had a full breakfast
16:07:28 <T3sl4> what about second breakfast?
16:07:32 <Halcyon> I'm going to the pub soon for dinner
16:07:52 <jackbrown> Here it's 7 am morning
16:08:20 <Halcyon> https://theduxton.com.au/
16:08:23 <T3sl4> Halcyon: nice, sixth breakfast
16:08:58 <T3sl4> Halcyon: link is broke (or worse?)
16:09:10 <Halcyon> Works for me?
16:10:59 <T3sl4> hmm, works in a--fuck you popup go away
16:11:01 <T3sl4> in a proxy
16:12:35 <Halcyon> Mmmm southern fried chicken burger
16:14:28 <steve30> jackbrown, I'm guessing that will just be a pwm thing, so will probably be fine for a fan. Can't say for sure though. As its cheap it might be worth getting one to try out.
16:14:47 <jackbrown> steve30: what means "pwn thing" ?
16:14:57 <steve30> PWM = pulse width modulation
16:15:41 <T3sl4> hrm, so first of all the website has an expired cert or something, if i click through that it seems it's 403 then instantly redirects to a cisco "blocked due to phishing threat" page
16:15:44 <jackbrown> ok, steve30 I'm trying to build a fume extractor I'd like to use those two fan that I removed from an old server
16:17:24 <T3sl4> 12V 3A, those things must scream
16:19:39 <jackbrown> T3sl4: lol that's why I want a dimmer to regulate them, I don't think I even need all the air that they can both move since they are rated 190 CFM each!
16:19:49 <T3sl4> :D
16:20:21 <jackbrown> T3sl4: I recovered a 12V 5A transformer so they will at max suck 2.5A each, but I think that I will just push them to half to have a great suction
16:20:28 <jackbrown> T3sl4: what do you think ?
16:21:16 <T3sl4> well, the transformer delivers only what the load needs, if you put both on there full throttle they'll either draw more than the rating, or the transformer keels over :)
16:21:28 <T3sl4> but yeah that should be fine at less than full throttle
16:23:48 <jackbrown> T3sl4: I'm not planning to set them full throttle never I think, but please explain, if they are rated 3.0 each and I set them with a 5A, won't them just limited by the transformer and that's all?
16:24:17 <T3sl4> also, is it a transformer transformer, or a switching supply?
16:24:30 <jackbrown> T3sl4: because currently I'm running one of those fan with a 1.15A 12V transformer and seems to work fine
16:24:50 <T3sl4> did you measure the voltage while it's running?
16:24:57 <jackbrown> T3sl4: it's a transformer from 220V to 12V, besides I dunno what is a switching supply
16:25:20 <T3sl4> well a transformer outputs AC, there aren't many 12V AC fans
16:25:37 <T3sl4> nothing prohibits them from existing, but i've never seen one...
16:25:42 <jackbrown> T3sl4: no it's a 220V AC to 12V DC
16:25:52 <T3sl4> so it's at the very least a rectifier
16:26:06 <T3sl4> does it feel light weight? got a bunch of logos on the label?
16:26:09 <jackbrown> T3sl4: similar at those one used for laptop
16:26:30 <jackbrown> T3sl4: can you wait a sec I'll share pics of the PSU and the fan ?
16:27:30 <T3sl4> sure
16:30:28 <jackbrown> T3sl4: this is the PSU I'm currently using on just 1 of the fan https://ibb.co/dD0tqZF
16:30:31 <jackbrown> datech
16:31:14 <T3sl4> yeah that's probably a switching supply
16:31:27 <jackbrown> l
16:31:36 <T3sl4> also how thick is it, like 2cm ish?
16:31:39 <jackbrown> T3sl4: this is he FAN https://it.aliexpress.com/item/4000118205430.html
16:32:11 <jackbrown> T3sl4: anyway I have a bigger one rated 5A that I'm planning to use on both the fan when I will have the dimmer of the link
16:32:30 <jackbrown> T3sl4: thick you mean the case of the switching supply ?
16:32:50 <T3sl4> yeah
16:33:12 <T3sl4> i wonder if it wasn't running at full speed because it was drawing too much current
16:33:44 <jackbrown> T3sl4: it's 3cm
16:34:04 <T3sl4> could also be that the fan itself doesn't draw full current unless loaded (back pressure), or it just doesn't draw that much current in the first place (the 3A figure might be startup or worst case or fusing current?)
16:34:11 <jackbrown> T3sl4: so the fan since it's rated 3A will stress the switching supply and can burn it ?
16:34:13 <T3sl4> no datasheet sadly :(
16:34:38 <jackbrown> T3sl4: yeah didn't find datasheet too
16:34:46 <T3sl4> depends how it handles the stress, but it's not a great idea in general
16:34:57 <T3sl4> so the 5A supply is a better choice
16:35:04 <jackbrown> T3sl4: I could try to attach the fan to my lab PSU setting 3.0A and 12V and see how many amps it draws
16:35:15 <hsn> how many handle stress mode is there?
16:35:26 <jackbrown> T3sl4: handle stress mode?
16:35:34 <jackbrown> hsn: sorry T3sl4
16:35:36 <hsn> its hsn
16:35:58 <T3sl4> nice, lab psu will tell you real current draw yeah
16:35:59 <hsn> ah no .. i was commenting on "depends on how it handles the stress"
16:36:09 * T3sl4 sticks a broom handle up hsn's backside
16:36:15 <jackbrown> T3sl4: ok give me 1 min I will check
16:36:22 <hsn> let me google broom
16:38:31 <hsn> hey T3sl4 .. i ve rechargable nimh battery (written 8.4v) on it .. im charging it with lab psu .. vc 10.1v cc 40mA ... the battery will have power in (volatage at psu lcd - battery voltage * 40ma) ?
16:39:07 <hsn> or this ::: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Dwys1DKrHxNWndTx5
16:40:05 <T3sl4> power in is VDC * IDC...
16:40:06 <hsn> i mean the lab psu is showing ~0.4W but i thought .. its (10.053- vbat) * 0.04 ?
16:40:25 <T3sl4> what are you supposing vbat is? :)
16:40:54 <hsn> what ever it is when i remove the lead xD
16:43:32 <T3sl4> well vbat goes up to 10.053V give or take, so, P ~= 0
16:43:41 <hsn> yes
16:43:42 <T3sl4> which is to say, your leads aren't dissipating much power
16:43:58 <hsn> oh yeah im niglicting that ..
16:44:17 <hsn> just stupid me treating bat as resistor voltage drop
16:45:44 <T3sl4> now, there probably is some internal resistance or chemistry thing, that dissipates a voltage drop
16:45:48 <T3sl4> but it's not so easy to measure directly
16:46:05 <T3sl4> (that's usually demonstrated with cyclic voltammetry or something like that)
16:49:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Bugger trying to find a suitable off-the-shelf solution for my storage tubs, I'll just custom design a flat pack solution! https://t.co/MjL7zAoxOw
16:59:32 <jackbrown> T3sl4: how important is wiring for Amperage
16:59:32 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
16:59:34 <jackbrown> T3sl4: ?
17:00:19 <hsn> morning Ysjoelfir
17:00:30 <hsn> 9.9 importance
17:00:44 <jackbrown> T3sl4: I have two different readings, I tried to connect the fan that I installed into a fume extractor replacing the 220V one , and it sucked just around 1,2A, then I removed the fan from the fume extractor and I attached it to the LAB PSU and it sucked around 1.6A
17:00:50 <hsn> without wiring u got no ampers
17:00:59 <jackbrown> hsn: that's sure
17:01:40 <steve30> hi Ysjoelfir
17:01:46 <hsn> hi steve30
17:01:53 <steve30> hello
17:02:02 <hsn> when u become steve31?
17:03:54 <T3sl4> Ampera needs lots of wiring
17:04:12 <T3sl4> jackbrown: 22-24 AWG will be fine here
17:04:49 <jackbrown> T3sl4: another question, if the fan it's rated 3.0A why it sucks just 1.6A (PSU LAB Set to 3.5A) ?
17:05:53 <T3sl4> who knows
17:06:07 <jackbrown> T3sl4: lol
17:06:14 <Ysjoelfir> wth is 22 to 24 AWG in a reasonable unit? :P I'm sure Ampera needs to implement that conversion into the bot
17:06:15 <steve30> I'm steve31 when I log in from my ThinkPad A31
17:06:30 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi hsn, steve30 and T3sl4 :)
17:07:58 <jackbrown> T3sl4: on the case of the fume extractor where I replace the fan (old was 220V 0.14A) I left the original on/off switch rated 250V, maybe this causes the different Amperage ?
17:08:09 <hsn> Ampera convert 24 awg to mm
17:08:55 <hsn> jackbrown, if u really want it to draw 3.0A .. u have to try to stop it with ur finger
17:09:05 * T3sl4 slides Ysjoelfir a coffee
17:09:17 <hsn> and me ? no coffee?
17:09:22 <jackbrown> hsn: ok I got, that is the maximum amperage it can suck when the motor is under stres
17:09:28 <hsn> i got beefy pomogrenade
17:09:32 * Ysjoelfir uses witchcraft to turn that into black tea
17:09:39 <hsn> jackbrown, i think so ..
17:09:54 * Ysjoelfir steals hsns Pomgrenade
17:10:02 <jackbrown> hsn: for example if I will put this fan beneath some filter to make my fume extractor it will have more stress since they air won't flow so easily and it will draw more
17:10:08 <T3sl4> pomegranate tea is nice
17:10:10 * Ysjoelfir places a regular handgrenade instead so that he doesn't notice
17:10:21 <hsn> jackbrown, i think yes
17:10:54 <T3sl4> jackbrown: y'know how when you put your hand over the end of the vacuum cleaner, the pitch rises?
17:11:15 <hsn> he doesnt put his hand
17:11:15 <Ysjoelfir> hah. the vacuum paradoxon ;)
17:11:19 <hsn> he put other parts
17:11:20 <hsn> :P
17:11:20 <T3sl4> it's actually under less load with less airflow, at least this is the case for most fans
17:11:31 * T3sl4 paradoxoffs Ysjoelfir
17:11:37 <Ysjoelfir> :X
17:12:01 <jackbrown> T3sl4: I'm missed
17:12:05 * hsn puts vacuum cleaner on Ysjoelfir's cheeks
17:12:26 <Ysjoelfir> sluuuuuuuuuurp
17:12:40 <hsn> rnt u suppose to be near the window
17:12:41 <hsn> :P
17:12:48 <Ysjoelfir> I am
17:12:51 <hsn> haha
17:13:50 <T3sl4> hsn: parts in vacuums you say? https://youtu.be/Yh6kbQnOAg4?t=37
17:14:06 * T3sl4 hugs jackbrown
17:14:12 <jackbrown> ?
17:14:55 <jackbrown> T3sl4: hsn would you use the fan I got to create a fume extractor ?
17:15:26 <jackbrown> T3sl4: hsn I'd like to buy something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffaiKZMU0Lw
17:15:36 <jackbrown> T3sl4: hsn I'd like to build something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffaiKZMU0Lw
17:16:13 <hsn> jackbrown, wait a min .. r u telling me or T3sl4 ?
17:16:25 <jackbrown> hsn: both :)
17:16:28 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer my DIY version
17:16:35 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: can I see it ?
17:16:39 <hsn> i prefer to die with fumes
17:16:41 <hsn> :P
17:16:54 <hsn> i dont want to do anything in life :P
17:17:00 Quit: Polesch ([email protected]) Connection closed
17:17:14 <T3sl4> yeah that would be nice
17:18:18 <hsn> i like that hepa thingy
17:19:30 <Ysjoelfir> jackbrown if you promise to not comment on the video, sure?
17:19:55 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: I promise OK ? :)
17:20:48 <jackbrown> T3sl4: yeah that thing is rated 180 m3/h, it seems that my fan is capable of more, of course i have to check if it is capable of moving all that air when is mounted after the filters
17:22:26 <jackbrown> T3sl4: another thing is that these fu**ing arms are really expensive https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005001540492702.html
17:22:54 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: where is your DIY version ?
17:23:01 <T3sl4> meh i've seen fucking tools more expensive than that
17:23:16 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZMO56DhRG0
17:27:09 <hsn> what strange text on ur hat
17:27:16 <hsn> 0:45
17:27:24 <jackbrown> T3sl4: sure but it's just a hose!
17:28:19 <hsn> but u can eat lots of ants with it jackbrown
17:28:28 <hsn> in one swallow
17:28:40 <Ysjoelfir> not that form of string. there is some... fabric piece on my hat that wasn't supposed to be there
17:28:41 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: I have a question about that extensible hose, is it hard and fix when as the one of fume extractos ? It seems a bit woobly to me
17:29:55 <Ysjoelfir> watch the video and judge yourself.
17:30:20 <Ysjoelfir> I uploaded it in march 2018 and still use it like that
17:30:45 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: it's not fixed as the one from the expensive fume extractor IMHO
17:34:12 <Ysjoelfir> you are comparing a commercial extractor hose which costs roughly 50€ or more with a cheap alternative which might need a little something you can place it on for 10€.
17:37:00 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: Honestly that hose is really overpriced maybe there are other cheaper and more convenient alternatives, IMHO the fume extractor hose don't have to lean on the workbench but it has to stay mid air so you can work on the full bench
17:37:39 <Ysjoelfir> if you find one you should tell the thousands of DIY guys out there searching for an alternative.
17:37:52 <Ysjoelfir> who are searching for that for like.... years
17:40:59 <hsn> hah
17:41:24 <hsn> digikey shipped some cut tube with missing parts
17:41:30 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: do you think this is the same ? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33049623416.html?
17:41:54 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: anyway I read a comment of a guy that said that that professional hose pieces can be 3D printed and then assembled
17:42:12 <Ysjoelfir> probably yes. also it comes in smaller diameters which is handy
17:42:32 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/jj8T1LQgs9ZsEQuk7 from digikey
17:42:50 <hsn> bozbok took leds
17:42:52 <hsn> lol
17:43:36 <jackbrown> Ysjoelfir: maybe a good idea could be use one of those arms for the lamps and attach the terminal part to so it can hold it mid air
17:44:13 <steve30> I uploaded a video of last December's LAG meeting
17:44:13 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDpDt7pupnU
17:45:01 <Ysjoelfir> huh, how does that happen hsn? Oo
17:45:36 <Ysjoelfir> steve, your car is loud :D
17:45:46 <steve30> Not mine
17:45:52 <steve30> I don't have a car
17:46:00 <Ysjoelfir> right. you are a biker :D
17:46:15 <Ysjoelfir> well, then your friends car :D
17:46:57 <Ysjoelfir> woah, that carpet is so cool! I wish we could have carpets :(
17:47:34 <Ysjoelfir> uh, ATI Rage128. I had like a thousand of those in my collection back than
17:47:45 <Ysjoelfir> Lemmings!
17:48:27 <Ysjoelfir> I played that on dads amiga back than :D or was it on the atari? I can't remember, he had both. and an 286 as well
17:48:52 <steve30> I think lemmings runs on pretty much everything
17:54:08 * Ysjoelfir continues to write down components
17:54:13 <Ysjoelfir> "yay"
17:54:31 <Ysjoelfir> I'm so "excited"
17:54:35 <Ysjoelfir> and I just can't hide it
17:54:47 <hsn> Would you like a replacement or a credit?
17:54:48 <hsn> Hasan Jaafar 09:51, Oct 14
17:54:48 <hsn> i actually just wanted to inform
17:54:48 <hsn> Hasan Jaafar 09:52, Oct 14
17:54:48 <hsn> i hope this increase the output quality .. doesnt happen again to me or others
17:54:49 <hsn> Tracey ext 13895 09:52, Oct 14
17:54:50 <hsn> I do apologize for this.
17:54:52 <hsn> Tracey ext 13895 09:52, Oct 14
17:54:55 <hsn> We can issue you a credit if you don't require a replacement.
17:54:59 <hsn> Hasan Jaafar 09:52, Oct 14
17:55:00 <jackbrown> Could anyone help to find the datasheet for this fan Datech DS12038-12HBTA 12V 3.0A ? Can't find anywhere!
17:55:01 <hsn> no worries no problem at all .. actually i gave wrong part number its red led 350-2047-1-ND
17:55:03 <hsn> Hasan Jaafar 09:53, Oct 14
17:55:05 <hsn> no not required i really not asking for anything .. thank you
17:55:07 <hsn> Tracey ext 13895 09:53, Oct 14
17:55:09 <hsn> I will forward this to the supervisor so they are aware.
17:55:11 <hsn> Tracey ext 13895 09:53, Oct 14
17:55:13 <hsn> Again, I do apologize!
17:55:15 <hsn> Hasan Jaafar 09:53, Oct 14
17:55:17 <hsn> thank you thats really good .. thanks for your support
17:55:19 <hsn> Hasan Jaafar 09:54, Oct 14
17:55:21 <hsn> no worries tracy .. thank you again and have a nice day
17:55:23 <hsn> Tracey ext 13895 09:54, Oct 14
17:55:25 <hsn> You as well!
17:55:28 <hsn> Tracey ext 13895 09:54, Oct 14
17:55:30 <hsn> Stay safe
17:55:37 <Ysjoelfir> you are so nice hsn :D
17:55:45 <hsn> lol
17:55:58 <Ysjoelfir> I recently got a delivery from digikey
17:56:04 <Ysjoelfir> a backorder part
17:56:16 <hsn> oh yeah ? does it delay the whole order?
17:56:25 <hsn> or they send it seperatly
17:56:35 <hsn> also digikey shipping in ur country cost ?
17:56:39 <Ysjoelfir> they seriously send a stupid 0201 resistor (like, ONE!) with ups express ._.
17:57:15 <Ysjoelfir> they send it seperatly. shipping is free over 50€, under that... something like 18€
17:58:33 <hsn> woah
17:58:34 <hsn> nice
17:58:46 <hsn> i've to pay 75$ everytime i order anything
18:00:05 <hsn> this was the order :: i paid 75$ for it ::: http://www.digikey.com/short/zn875j
18:01:25 <hsn> its shared between me and 2 other friends
18:03:41 <hsn> going dowen to lab cya
18:03:45 Quit: MRiddickW ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
18:06:00 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy :) I just picked some random bag of ramen out of the kitchen cabinet. lets see how that tastes
18:06:37 <NeroTHz> bah
18:06:44 <NeroTHz> architect needs to learn how to guestimate renovation costs
18:06:50 Join: MRiddickW ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
18:06:55 <NeroTHz> his original estimate was in the range of 90k
18:07:03 <NeroTHz> (which I used to get a loan)
18:07:07 <NeroTHz> his updated is more 120-130
18:07:12 <NeroTHz> so I´m missing 30-40k
18:07:39 <T3sl4> poo
18:07:55 <Ysjoelfir> huh? don't you have that "if the cost is more than 5% off from the quote you don't have to pay it" thing?
18:08:01 <Ysjoelfir> at least we have that
18:08:09 <NeroTHz> this isn´t a quote
18:08:38 <NeroTHz> what happens is that, for a bank to give a loan for renovations, they need to see an estimate by an architect or contractor for the total estimated costs
18:08:41 <Ysjoelfir> oh. so it was a "lets look at it and tell me how much you want so that I can compare with the competition"?
18:09:00 <Ysjoelfir> oh, great.
18:09:13 <T3sl4> so, go back to the bank and say you need it extended by x?
18:09:21 <T3sl4> something of a bother, but..
18:09:35 <NeroTHz> yeah I will investigate that possibility
18:09:46 <NeroTHz> but I still need to be able to actually pay for the renovation
18:09:49 <NeroTHz> I mean for the loan
18:10:09 <NeroTHz> sure I can go and ask for 40k more, but I don´t know if that will be reasonable for my amount I have to pay back every month
18:11:13 <Ysjoelfir> damn, whatever that ramen is supposed to taste like... its.... interesting
18:11:27 * T3sl4 touches Ysjoelfir with a noodly appendage
18:11:52 <NeroTHz> anyho, it´ll be fine, and I just need to see where I want to save. Itll likely also end up a bit cheaper because now he used over-estimating guestimates for some things like electricity, heating, etc
18:12:17 <T3sl4> so it will actually go to budget, rather than the standard 20% over? ;)
18:12:21 <NeroTHz> and in his defense, I did add renovating the garage into a home-office, but that single thing does no at all add 40k to the renovation
18:13:25 <Ysjoelfir> why would you trade in a garage for an office? :O I mean, noone uses those for cars, but... why not a wood workshop, or an electronics lab?
18:13:56 <NeroTHz> Ysjoelfir, well, when I say office, I kinda mean lab+office+workshop
18:14:01 <Ysjoelfir> ah
18:14:07 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds more reasonable :P
18:14:21 <NeroTHz> but it´s a maybe still
18:15:12 <T3sl4> not enough to slap a "365" sticker on your computer? :P
18:15:31 <T3sl4> or whatever microsoft is calling office these days
18:16:52 <NeroTHz> like, on the one hand I really like the idea of separating my home office for work from the house in a sense (I need to walk across 5 meters of patio to go from garage to house)
18:17:01 <NeroTHz> but ont he other I also use my computer for non-work
18:17:59 <NeroTHz> ah well
18:18:14 <NeroTHz> will see, also need to sit down with the carpenter to see what he thinks of the budgets and so on
18:19:05 <NeroTHz> (for all I know the carpenter looks at the budget the architect planned for the kitchen and goes ¨15k? man thats way more than I need, 10k is way more reasonable!¨. But it might go the other way too
18:19:13 <K> hello
18:19:29 <T3sl4> hi
18:32:57 <Ysjoelfir> hi K
18:33:34 <Ysjoelfir> fuck, those ramen are.... pretty disgusting
18:34:26 <Ysjoelfir> and this cat is pretty annoying -.-
18:34:48 * Ysjoelfir grabs the water sprayer thingy
18:35:00 <K> maybe it was cat's ramen
18:35:15 <Ysjoelfir> you mean it was mice flavoured?
18:35:27 <K> or sometging yea
18:35:43 <K> prolly dont wanna know what cats find delicious and exquisite
18:35:51 <Ysjoelfir> true
18:35:59 <Ysjoelfir> this one loves wasps for some reason
18:36:18 <Ysjoelfir> every summer we are at the vet at least once because that idiot once again bit onto a wasp -.-
18:36:53 <K> pff
18:37:21 <Ysjoelfir> learning by pain doesn't seem to work always
18:38:07 <K> have you considered masochism ?
18:38:21 <Ysjoelfir> not until now
18:38:31 <K> or maybe he just wants attention! undivided!
18:38:40 <Ysjoelfir> he indeed does
18:46:43 <steve30> kitties like attention :)
18:46:46 * steve30 meows
18:46:57 * Ysjoelfir pets the steve30
18:47:34 <steve30> aww :)
19:06:01 <steve30> I'm feeling in a cuddly mood today
19:09:19 * Ysjoelfir wants cuddles, too, but has to stay up while waiting for a package from hsn to arrive, so can't lay on the sofa and cuddle with the cats
19:12:12 <hsn> the fck this package made lots of trouble :D
19:12:20 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D
19:12:50 <hsn> i wanted to zap my wife by rubbing sofa many times .. remove hand fast .. touch her
19:12:53 <hsn> nothing worked
19:13:03 <Ysjoelfir> lol
19:13:06 <hsn> i need zap generator
19:13:24 <Ysjoelfir> take a big cap, charge it at the mains through a rectifier, and go like "wife! catch!"
19:13:40 <hsn> is there a device that does that to pure body?
19:13:44 <T3sl4> stick it in your rectumfryer
19:14:22 <hsn> like i want to zap with bare hand .. no problem if device was in my pocket or hidden somewhere to charrge my body :P
19:15:40 <hsn> google captcha is getting good at giving hard images
19:15:55 <T3sl4> it helps to be a T3sl4co1l
19:16:09 <Ysjoelfir> get one of those 400kV from 1.5V generators from aliexpress ;P
19:16:20 <Ysjoelfir> also, captchas are shit, I absolutely hate those
19:16:21 <hsn> 400kV is danger
19:20:31 <hsn> https://youtu.be/tN9vZcAN0co
19:20:34 <hsn> Birds make a power transformer "explode" in Houston (the fuse really)
19:21:06 <Ysjoelfir> uh, fried birb!
19:22:41 <hsn> https://youtu.be/2NKOlLDNknc?t=22 << what stopped it ?
19:23:03 <hsn> air allready broke .. did somone restarted it ?
19:24:07 <Ysjoelfir> the wind did :)
19:24:33 <Ysjoelfir> the arc is getting longer until it completely extinguishes
19:24:52 <hsn> ah wind
19:24:58 <Ysjoelfir> oh
19:25:03 <Ysjoelfir> I forgot, you don't have that :P
19:25:11 <hsn> what if there is no wind .. they didnt put enough space
19:25:22 <hsn> to break the ionized air
19:25:30 <Ysjoelfir> convection will do it then
19:25:39 <hsn> ah heat
19:25:47 <hsn> convection work slower here
19:25:48 <hsn> :P
19:26:34 <hsn> i did study electronics with shit university .. but now i see electrical videos i tend to like this fun stuff
19:26:35 <hsn> :P
19:26:43 <Ysjoelfir> hehe^^
19:26:54 <Ysjoelfir> I see hsn aleady sitting in a corner, winding a T3sl4 coil
19:27:40 <hsn> im thinking to do one pcb T3sl4 coil for fun
19:27:42 <T3sl4> yeah, those disconnects aren't supposed to open under load, probably it's not full load but reactive current from transmission lines and reactors
19:28:00 <hsn> https://youtu.be/mqEaIdvxXYQ << u either run or do somthing .. this guy isnt doing both
19:29:47 <T3sl4> who needs either when you've got vodka?
19:30:51 <hsn> no vodka
19:31:53 <T3sl4> cyrillic on those panels
19:32:30 <hsn> the question
19:32:38 <hsn> where does Photonicinduction get his stuff
19:33:00 <T3sl4> ebay?
19:33:27 <hsn> who sells this stuff on ebay xD
19:33:35 <hsn> i thought its forbidden to sell and buy
19:38:47 <hsn> https://youtu.be/zpkh7_Eyctw?t=214
19:38:52 <hsn> "in the name of science"
19:38:53 <hsn> lol
19:39:02 <hsn> this guy is meth user
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19:52:38 <Ysjoelfir> recently I've been thinking about getting stuff for woodworking. I feel like I'm betraying my lab
19:55:19 <T3sl4> i've made wood from time to time
19:56:01 <T3sl4> the desk i use, i made from some 2x4s and a sheet of plywood i found laying around
19:59:09 <Ysjoelfir> I made my workstation desk myself, too. but I thought about some more... elaborate things. like building a cabinet or.... I duno, maybe a chair for the balcony?
19:59:56 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to do more with my hands. like using planes, chisels, a mallet.. stuff like that
20:01:54 <T3sl4> i'd get back into foundry if i had a backyard to work in
20:03:32 <steve30> I should head out
20:03:34 <steve30> back later
20:03:39 <T3sl4> o/
20:03:55 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
20:03:57 <Ysjoelfir> you don't have one? didn't you live at some.... ultra nice place?
20:04:26 <T3sl4> just apt
20:04:50 <Ysjoelfir> oh. well, thats not good then
20:04:51 <T3sl4> should go shopping, probably some cheap houses these days
20:04:55 <Ysjoelfir> xD
20:05:05 <Ysjoelfir> buy one for me too, when you see one
20:05:21 <T3sl4> you and what rent money :^)
20:05:35 <Ysjoelfir> *buy
20:05:39 <Ysjoelfir> and.... none
20:05:54 <T3sl4> bi*
20:11:25 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxL72JjhDlU how cool is that :D
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20:24:47 <Ysjoelfir> hsn!!!
20:24:51 <Ysjoelfir> it arrived!
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20:33:58 <T3sl4> *clickspringing detensifies*
20:34:24 <K> PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
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20:47:04 <Ysjoelfir> K https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aZd3R6llf1ryu_XMAN46SADpjmfA3q9s/view?usp=sharing
20:48:11 <K> hrm ok
20:48:22 <K> no bozbek bite marks?
20:48:44 <Ysjoelfir> nope. bozbek was tame.
20:49:18 <K> was it the same delivery-person you jumped in front of yesterday?
20:50:11 <Ysjoelfir> yes
20:52:00 <K> intimidation works!
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21:31:47 <Ysjoelfir> indeed!
21:31:48 <Ysjoelfir> also
21:31:49 <Ysjoelfir> hsn
21:31:50 <Ysjoelfir> hsn
21:31:51 <Ysjoelfir> hsn
21:31:52 <Ysjoelfir> hsn
21:31:53 <Ysjoelfir> hsn
21:31:55 <hsn> yes
21:31:56 * Ysjoelfir vibrates hsn
21:32:00 <Ysjoelfir> did you see? :D
21:32:02 <hsn> recieved?
21:32:03 <Ysjoelfir> it arrived!
21:32:17 <hsn> niiice
21:33:00 <Ysjoelfir> no wonder they were like "nobody home". the forwarding guys, those "soverein" idiots, made my adress for DPD to "Kai Chmieleffski Kai Chmieleffski Kai Chmieleffski Kai ChmieleffskiBottenhorner Weg Frankfurt"
21:33:10 <Ysjoelfir> four times my name, no post code, no house number
21:33:32 <hsn> lol
21:33:37 <hsn> how many ctrl v
21:33:38 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know why, since you (or the aramex guys) wrote it totally correct onto their sticker
21:33:40 <hsn> he did
21:34:13 <Ysjoelfir> I wait to open it until mrs spouse is home :)
21:34:16 <hsn> so did u open?
21:34:38 <hsn> i think its a struggle to open xD
21:35:00 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I unwrapped it from the aramex bag and saw your sticky tape :P how did you say is that palm water to be used?
21:40:30 <hsn> well two situations
21:40:48 <hsn> in drinking water ... 3-4 drops per 350ml
21:41:16 <hsn> or 2-3 drops per small red tea cup ..
21:41:40 <Ysjoelfir> GREAT; i#LL TRY THAT THIS EVENING .d
21:41:45 <Ysjoelfir> erm... sry for caps :D
21:42:18 <hsn> nice if u dnt like it .. share that as well dont think .. its not nice to say it taste crap for example :p
21:42:21 <K> he is so excited!
21:43:11 <hsn> yes K he even started putting html escape chars
21:43:16 <hsn> xD
21:43:50 <hsn> or ... idk why i related his text to html escape .. its not .. wtf i neeed coffee
21:44:33 <K> &#127814;
21:45:28 <Ysjoelfir> :P
21:45:33 <hsn> so whats news mr k
21:45:57 <hsn> any fun project u working on?
21:47:29 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/KMuZfjJ98kzLk8vWA
21:47:50 <Ysjoelfir> lol
21:48:33 <K> working on work
21:49:51 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/oVU9bF3Na9PnwJMD9 Ysjoelfir
21:50:17 <Ysjoelfir> yep, I can read that :P
21:50:26 <Ysjoelfir> and its actually a cool effect
21:52:56 <hsn> what written
21:54:00 <Ysjoelfir> it explains an effect, that cold air from a forest can flow into nearby cities, because the cities are warmer, warm air raises upwards, "leaving" a lower pressure, which gets filled by the surrounding colder air. this way a nearby forest can cool a city
22:00:39 <K> cool!
22:02:33 <hsn> kool!
22:04:25 <rust_collector> meh, is ok
22:04:31 <hsn> now i speak to the poster like i understood it
22:05:21 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/yVtsVtebBYP9NQoU6
22:05:45 <hsn> rust where is my pallet
22:06:10 <hsn> satan number pallet
22:07:07 <hsn> i wanted to say (lucifer) i wrote (yousfir) .. sorrry Ysjoelfir xD
22:07:32 <Ysjoelfir> lol
22:10:56 <rust_collector> you have to ask the Ysjoelfirs company if they are done soldering up that batch of stuff yet
22:11:28 <rust_collector> there are only so many underage asians up here
22:11:41 <Ysjoelfir> lol
22:11:50 <Ysjoelfir> if 26 shares would make it mine...
22:11:52 <Ysjoelfir> that would be cool
22:12:10 <rust_collector> they only have 50 shares, so you own most of it
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22:12:55 <Ysjoelfir> pff :P
22:13:41 <hsn> i got a controller with bulky harness .. i need to program it on my desk .. the harness is annoying .. what do u suggest .. make a dummy harness just for programming ?
22:14:21 <rust_collector> put a connector on it?
22:14:23 <hsn> what others do .. if they got controller inside somthing big?
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22:15:44 <hsn> the connector = bulky harness
22:15:54 <rust_collector> or just tape it to your bench
22:16:08 <hsn> filling desk .. adding weight and falling time to time
22:16:17 <rust_collector> duct tape
22:16:36 <hsn> oh yeah i should do this on my table
22:17:04 <rust_collector> when it falls down, leave it on the floor, and program it there=
22:17:11 <Ysjoelfir> so... it looks like they have roughly 2000 million shares if I understood correctly how to roughly calculate it. I think my 26 are not realy anything :P
22:17:53 <rust_collector> well, it is something
22:18:16 <rust_collector> are they doing anything interesting these days?
22:18:43 <Ysjoelfir> nordic semi?
22:18:49 <rust_collector> yez?
22:19:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes. I like their NRFxxxx ARM micros with bluetooth. makes it pretty easy to implement that
22:19:19 <Ysjoelfir> also, their datasheets are pretty nice
22:19:58 <rust_collector> okeh. making good datasheets is probably a good sales trick
22:20:21 <rust_collector> isn't it time they made a different colour tooth?
22:20:36 <K> no-tooth
22:20:41 <Ysjoelfir> at least for me it is. I am willing to pay more for good documentation.
22:20:48 <rust_collector> it is time for rgbtooth
22:20:55 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I would be absolutely supporting yello-tooth now
22:21:01 <rust_collector> browntooth
22:21:18 <hsn> fallentooth
22:21:19 <rust_collector> but rgb woudl probably sell well
22:21:49 <hsn> falantooth protocol
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22:31:52 <rust_collector> oooh, I got a china package
22:32:05 <Ysjoelfir> nice :P
22:32:16 <rust_collector> uhm...
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22:32:41 <rust_collector> IC BASE BOARD pingpong ling ding 204904
22:33:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol
22:34:41 <rust_collector> ok, it is 20 tip120 things. I do not remember ordering that, but.. ok
22:36:01 <rust_collector> that can be handy, I guess
22:36:30 <rust_collector> it is probably something I ordered to empty my paypal account or something
22:41:15 <rust_collector> or maybe it was a drunk ebay raid while being drunk... which would be cool, because then I would probably have more stuff on the way
22:41:45 <K> bh
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22:46:10 <Ysjoelfir> lol :P
22:46:23 <Ysjoelfir> when I'm done adding stuff to my shop, could you drunk raid that too some day?
22:47:04 <rust_collector> no, because you just have crap or better, so I can not afford that
22:47:46 <Ysjoelfir> I intend to stock up on crappy crap, too
22:47:57 <rust_collector> aah, well, maybe
22:48:03 <Ysjoelfir> like those ultra thin aligator clip leads you look at with the wrong eye and they rip in half
22:48:16 <rust_collector> I hope you get some usb soldering irons
22:48:16 <Ysjoelfir> or when you send 100mA through them they vaporise
22:48:31 <Ysjoelfir> I actually have one. its not as crappy as I thought
22:48:37 <Ysjoelfir> so I might stock some of those
22:49:10 <rust_collector> is it completely dumb? or is there something in there?
22:49:36 <rust_collector> I mean... could you run it off a 12v or 14.4v or other tool battery?
22:49:57 <Ysjoelfir> there is actually a temperature control in there, and some electronics that notices if you touch that little touch activated power button
22:54:00 <K> we are not talking about ts100, right?
22:54:21 <rust_collector> right
22:54:50 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.pollin.de/p/usb-loetkolben-8-w-840183?gclid=CjwKCAjww5r8BRB6EiwArcckC3meJ67FUe8xLEaBR82HJBBPoyvoKSj5vsii03srcvaoZMQwVQwFMBoC-ZkQAvD_BwE
22:55:07 <K> haha
22:55:20 <K> 450C
22:55:41 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, thats stupid and not right^^ but seriously, that thing is realy not THAT bad
22:56:03 <K> well, beats melting solder with matches and candle, i guess
22:56:44 <Ysjoelfir> even more. it works for small stuff. works even better as cheap gas irons, which is why I have that thing in my tool bag with a 12V - 5V converter
22:56:57 <rust_collector> if you are soldering leds and 1/8watt resistors on a small pcb, I bet that thing does it as well as anything else
22:57:00 <K> how small is the stuff?
22:57:05 <K> ok
22:57:30 <K> i would imagine that at 450C any flux evaporates instantly though
22:57:54 <Ysjoelfir> it fits in my normal male hands, but its just slightly to small. the connector rests on the.... part of the hand where the thumb joins.
22:58:01 <Ysjoelfir> also, no, its not operating at 450c
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23:32:01 <hsn> lesson of the day .. dont over tight steel to aluminum threads https://photos.app.goo.gl/NTzW4PcoqdDjgDGs6
23:36:56 * electrohead waves and stuff
23:38:08 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
23:38:45 <electrohead> hey mate
23:38:58 * rust_collector stuffs and stuff
23:40:42 * Ampera kisses electrohead
23:40:46 <Ampera> >:D
23:42:52 <electrohead> :O
23:42:56 * electrohead burns it with fire
23:43:04 <electrohead> lol, hey :P
23:43:20 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
23:43:25 <rust_collector> the fire that does not burn
23:43:37 <electrohead> I'm alright, just waking up
23:43:41 <electrohead> yourself?
23:43:45 <electrohead> hey rust_collector
23:43:53 <Ampera> trying to keep myself from taking my vacation time now
23:43:55 <Ampera> :P
23:44:02 <rust_collector> whyyyy?
23:44:13 <Ampera> I have about a week left (was hired later in the year, didn't have much to begin with, as my internship didn't count)
23:44:21 <Ampera> so I basically had 2 weeks of vacation this year
23:44:32 <electrohead> rust_collector: why what?
23:44:36 * Ampera sets an opel kadet on fire and drives it into rust_collector
23:44:52 <rust_collector> yeees, and why are you trying to not take the last week now?
23:44:58 <electrohead> oh cool, we got two weeks of leave a year in the military
23:45:07 <Ampera> because there's still a few months left in the year for me to do that
23:45:20 <Ampera> I believe I'm supposed to usually get 3
23:45:35 <Ampera> and honestly I don't even know if I have 2, because I was probably only supposed to have 1.5
23:45:42 <rust_collector> well... I guess, if you think you will get it later
23:45:44 <Ampera> because I was officially hired around middle of the year
23:45:49 <Ampera> rust_collector, why wouldn't I
23:45:58 <Ampera> I have all rest of the year
23:46:18 <rust_collector> well, maybe you could "just do this little thing" oh we need this just now...
23:47:05 <rust_collector> I always end up with a lot of vacation left over, and no time to take it
23:47:38 <Ampera> I'm also concerned that if I happen to need to take a day off later in the year I won't be able to
23:47:52 <rust_collector> right. that is a thing
23:47:53 <Ampera> I can't foresee an exact reason why that might be necessary, but it could and has been
23:48:32 <rust_collector> ok, so that is that. you are not having your vacation now
23:49:21 * Ampera sets a lada on fire, runs rust_collector over with it
23:54:53 <rust_collector> cooool
23:55:47 <rust_collector> vaz 2104
23:55:54 <Ampera> how are you doing rust_collector
23:56:00 <Ampera> how's the rust collection progressing
23:56:29 <rust_collector> oh, I am trying to make this guy send the correct parts, fun times
23:56:59 <Ampera> that's fun
23:58:18 <rust_collector> always