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04:18 <T3sl4> the steve30 platform of kitties and hotpants for all is tempting, but his CRT-based economic plan seems dubious, not to mention the servitude :P
06:16 <Ampera> T3sl4, 1. not a nice way to talk about black people 2. you can't vote for obama he's already been twice
07:07 <T3sl4> the law says a person can't be in twice, but nothing about his BBC
07:29 <Ampera> BBC?
07:44 <steve30> I'm sure you'd love serving World President steve30 with coffee :)
08:27 <Ampera> steve30, if your public addresses are gonna be done on miniDV, I'm in.
08:51 <steve30> Sure.
09:07 <T3sl4> Ampera, Big Black Carbonrod
09:09 <steve30> HDV and SVHSC are also available.
09:33 <Ampera> HDV is a bit upmarket don't you think?
09:49 <Ampera> I mean it's supposed to be a government's ability to contact its populous, but it doesn't need to be /that/ fancy
10:22 <Ampera> anyways, only 3 hours of work left then I can go get fried chicken
11:06 <coppice> T3sl4: not every president wants to be called tricky Dicky and advertise that
11:45 <Ampera> coppice, worked for Nixon's head in a jar in the future
29:12 Join: MRiddickW ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
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51:33 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/kVH3lNV.jpg
54:20 <coppice> There's some dried shitake downstairs. maybe I should cook them later
16:10 <Ysjoelfir> lol
14:16 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
14:32 <arch> are songle relays any good?
14:40 <arch> or any of the crapioli ebay relays for that matter
40:30 <arch> quiet day huh
40:36 * arch hears crickets nearby
54:35 <T3sl4> they're no good if you can buy em for a song
54:38 <T3sl4> le
55:06 <arch> -_-
55:23 * arch puts T3sl4 inside a barrel and floats him down the Nile
56:20 <T3sl4> if i'm in a barrel, then... i'm NOT in de nile?
56:46 <arch> that way you don't get bitten by the crocs. i'm not completely heartless
57:02 <arch> you should be glad. what is this world coming to. such ungrateful millenials...smh
57:12 <T3sl4> smh my head
08:06 <K> yall better go and vote.
08:10 <K> or else.
08:40 <rust_collector> uhm
09:07 <K> yes, you too.
09:14 <K> no talkin back
09:30 <rust_collector> give me a box and something to put in it then
10:43 <MRiddickW> Any of y'all have an opinion on self-contained desoldering gun vs station?
11:39 <rust_collector> If I am going to vote, I want a big box to put votes in, and the votes have to be oversized "action figures" shaped as the person we are voting for, and I want that bounced around on a forklift for a bit, before people can start to manually count the dolls
44:02 <electrohead> MRiddickW: I've come across a soldering gun on ebay, chinese made, for around 100 USD, that seems to have decent reviews
44:35 <electrohead> would have to go look at the model number; it's a desoldering gun like you asked, and has the pump built into the gun unit
44:58 <rust_collector> is it a hakko clone?
47:42 <electrohead> not too sure
47:54 <electrohead> S-993A is one of the model numbers I just found
48:11 <electrohead> I know for a fact there was another one, was similar, and had a digital temperature control
51:31 <rust_collector> oh great, so you can hack it with an arduino...
55:38 <rust_collector> not that I have used any such things... but I would GuEsS that the all in one works well and quickly, but it has to be heavy and large... the station version probably has a larger pump, and you do not hold all the weight in your hand... but then you have "more wire" or hose... I dunno?
56:08 <rust_collector> internet says the s-993 is a hakko 808 clone, so there is that
58:04 <electrohead> fair enough
58:36 <rust_collector> if they cloned it well enough, it should be fairly good, I guess, lol
59:01 <electrohead> I still need a decent desoldering gun
01:40 <rust_collector> wth? I just found out that there is a shop dealing with all kinds of soldering things, and "lab stuff" across the road from where dad lives
02:47 <electrohead> send me some stuff, then
02:50 <electrohead> lol
02:52 <electrohead> :P
03:37 <MRiddickW> Yeah, a station having more suction and less weight is kind of what I was thinking.
03:56 <MRiddickW> Don't know that it would matter for my purposes.
04:54 <rust_collector> it would probably have more flow, but the "in handle" one would probably suck "quicker" as it does not have to build up un-pressure thru the hose?
05:22 <rust_collector> maybe the pump size makes up for it
05:54 <rust_collector> electrohead, https://www.emagenturer.no/avloddestasjoner/fr301/avloddebolt-110w-230v-fr301-hakko they are not super cheap. especially not up here
06:17 <T3sl4> MRiddickW: Yeah, a station having more suction and less weight <-- yeah, just like your mother
06:36 <MRiddickW> Rude
06:40 <electrohead> lmfao
07:14 * electrohead offers guiness
07:17 <electrohead> *beer
17:46 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
19:10 <rust_collector> moin Dr. S
24:22 <arch> lol
01:01 <rust_collector> ok, this was fun, I think I will go make dinner
02:14 <Ysjoelfir> my dinner is on the way to me
03:05 <rust_collector> mine too, or.. I sent kid #3 to get butter
03:50 <Ysjoelfir> "Go to the kiwi and get me some smør!"?
03:58 <rust_collector> right
04:35 <Ysjoelfir> I'm waiting for the Dönermann to come and bring me my Dönerteller and Mrs. Spouse her Döner without Teller
05:02 <rust_collector> we are having lion steak and fries today
05:13 <Ysjoelfir> I never tried lion before
05:35 <rust_collector> Do you have a favourite dønermann, or is it just that one who will deliver?
06:31 <Ysjoelfir> I actually have a favourite one, but that one doesn't deliver and its in the middle of the city so picking food up is not an option when I'm not near for some reason. So... this is basically favourite Dönermann #2. Nearly as good, but way more pricey
07:04 <rust_collector> I like tellers, but I think nonteller kebabs are better.
07:05 <rust_collector> ok
09:46 <Ysjoelfir> I agree. Problem with that one is: they only deliver if you buy over 19€. a Döner without Teller is 7. A Dönerteller is 12. So.... yeah.
10:49 <rust_collector> I usually buy with, as I am hungry.
11:56 <rust_collector> but I should buy one without, and look around a bit, and just buy a second one...
12:06 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D thats also a method
14:36 <rust_collector> I still have go get my iron, btw...
14:50 <rust_collector> this will be a loooong project
15:09 <Ysjoelfir> long projects are usually the most interesting ones
15:35 <Ysjoelfir> still working on a project I'll be going to shove into mr. chefs ass in... 2 years when it finishes in time
18:55 <rust_collector> not when the project is installing one led, and moving a switch
19:24 <rust_collector> mr chef...
19:45 <Ysjoelfir> I meant mr. boss
19:51 <rust_collector> BORK BORK BORKK BORK
20:17 <Ysjoelfir> no, it'll be a 2 channel low-cost-(ish) power analyzer
20:22 <Ysjoelfir> also, my Döner arrived!
20:41 <Ysjoelfir> (fun fact: the company is called "DeinDöner = Your Döner)
23:08 Quit: PsySc0rpi0n ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
23:50 <rust_collector> oh really... amazing
24:35 Join: Nothing\ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
24:38 <Nothing\> hey guys
24:47 <Nothing\> i just found one of the most useful things i've ever come across
25:08 <Nothing\> settings for VLC that evens out the volume for movies where the dialogue is quiet and the action is loud
25:10 * T3sl4 wonders if Nothing\ found a hug
25:20 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4 <3
25:22 <T3sl4> oh, compressor?
25:26 <Nothing\> heya buddy, how's it going?
25:29 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yup
25:41 <Nothing\> https://i2.wp.com/www.vlchelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/vlc-compressor-settings.png?w=682&ssl=1
25:46 <Nothing\> those are the settings i used
25:57 <Nothing\> i mean, it's not perfect. but it helps a lot
26:29 <Nothing\> man i'm so glad my mouth feels better
26:38 <Nothing\> the night after that dental work, i was in soooo much pain
26:53 <T3sl4> yeah i'll bet
27:05 <Nothing\> i dunno from what, cuz those teeth all had root canals. best i can figure is from where they cauterized my gums off
27:22 <Nothing\> but i've had my gums cauterized off before and it didn't hurt like that
27:37 <Nothing\> this felt like abscess type pain. i actually had to take a toradol
27:48 <Nothing\> which is the strongest NSAID that i'm aware of
27:59 <T3sl4> you get antibiotics?
28:15 <Nothing\> nah, cuz they've already had root canals so there shouldn't be any infection in them
29:55 <Nothing\> i'm just scared i'm gonna break one of the nubs off
29:59 <T3sl4> did they pull anything or was it just trimming
30:04 <Nothing\> cuz if i do, that's it for that tooth. gotta get an extraction
30:10 <Nothing\> just the trimming
30:18 <Nothing\> i've already had what? 12 extractions?
30:27 <Nothing\> assuming 32 is the right number of teeth an adult has
30:35 <Nothing\> and 12 root canals
30:46 <Nothing\> more fillings than i can count
30:49 <T3sl4> i'd call you a bucktooth, but buck teeth aren't pointy vampire teeth :>
30:58 <Nothing\> more fillings replaced than i can count
31:25 <Nothing\> my old dentist was taking advantage of me cuz he'd put in a filling, then a month later it'd pop out
31:36 <Nothing\> and i just kept going through this for a couple of years
31:43 <T3sl4> :/
32:12 <Nothing\> and thanks to that, i lost part of my teeth in the process from the shaping process for the fillings
32:26 <Nothing\> as opposed to if he'd have just done a root canal right then and there
33:00 <Nothing\> cuz if you get so many cavities/fillings that there's enough natural tooth missing, they'll do a root canal instead
33:31 <Nothing\> it need not necessarily be due to infection that they perform a root canal
33:57 <Nothing\> or sometimes if you get a cavity far enough below the gumline, it can infect the root of the tooth
34:48 <T3sl4> not much blood flow there, things can fester for months or years before it finally needs surgical attention
37:59 <Nothing\> oh i know
38:40 <Nothing\> i had one infected tooth where it was completely broken off above the gumline, a molar. I musta left it for 2 or 3 years without any real issues before i finally got it extracted.
39:05 <Nothing\> and even then, despite there being nothing left above the gums
39:15 <Nothing\> it was still a relatively easy extraction
39:23 <Nothing\> both for me and for him
39:59 <Nothing\> but at the same time, leaving dental infections like that too long can cause an infection that gets into your heart
40:17 <Nothing\> or, heaven forbid, it can get into your sinuses if it's on the top teeth
40:41 <Nothing\> or into your jaw bone if it's on the bottom, cause a loss of bone tissue and weakening of the bones
41:07 <Nothing\> i've been lucky so far
41:26 <Nothing\> the only complication i've had from an abscess was this one bottom premolar i got infected
42:04 <Nothing\> it was right where my mental foramen is, which is a hole in your jaw bone where your mental nerve comes out that innervates part of your lip and mouth
42:34 <Nothing\> the infection caused severe swelling, my face swelled up like i got hit with a baseball or something
42:52 <Nothing\> and the pressure on that nerve caused have of my mouth and lips to go numb and become paralyzed
43:21 <Nothing\> and even after treatment, it took months before i got the feeling back. i was beginning to think it was permanent
44:21 <Nothing\> https://www.peertechz.com/Oral-Craniofacial-Science/figures/IJOCS-2-120-g001.gif
44:53 <Nothing\> see? that little hole there is where the nerve comes out
45:13 <Nothing\> so it's right underneath the tooth that got infected, or pretty close to it
47:07 <Nothing\> was the only time i ever went to the hospital for a dental issue that didn't involve pain
48:26 <rust_collector> hey Nothing\ what are you going to do today?
53:45 <Nothing\> hey rust_collector
53:58 <arch> it's in his name. he's going to do nothing
54:03 <Nothing\> i'm just getting ready to smoke my vape pen for shatter
54:08 <Nothing\> then after that, who knows
54:12 <arch> i rest my case
54:18 <Nothing\> maybe play some new super mario bros wii u
54:27 <Nothing\> or look for a game to play
54:35 <arch> or pr0n
54:37 <Nothing\> either that or watch youtube or king of the hell
54:43 <Nothing\> arch, actually i don't watch porn
54:52 <arch> god bless you
55:02 <Nothing\> honest to god, i can't remember the last time i watched it
55:16 <arch> no tentacle hentai either?
55:34 <Nothing\> i masturbate maybe once a month and that's strictly for utilitarian purposes. you know, to clean out my pipes and what not
55:39 <Nothing\> keep my prostate healthy
55:47 <arch> you are a saint amongst men
55:53 <Nothing\> and to keep myself from having wet dreams
56:22 <Nothing\> arch, nah, i just have the testosterone levels of an 80 year old woman thanks to being an opioid addict/user for over 20 years
56:30 <Nothing\> well no, it's been about 20
56:40 <arch> damn
56:49 <arch> i hope you get over it soon
56:52 <Nothing\> but opioids will reduce your testerone levelswith chronic use
57:00 <Nothing\> i won't, but thanks just the ame
57:06 <Nothing\> tbh i prefer it this way
57:22 <Nothing\> unless you plan on having a baby, sex is useless imo
57:46 <arch> world's overpopulated as is
57:53 <Nothing\> and masturbatory fantasies are just a waste of mindpower that could be put to more useful means
58:04 <arch> amen to that lol
58:06 <Nothing\> well, i've already reproduced anywyas
58:17 <Nothing\> so i it's not like i even need my balls anymore
58:41 <rust_collector> you do know that there are some side benefits to having your hormones as they are supposed to, right?
58:54 <arch> pretty sure you do. im no biologist, but im pretty sure testosterone serves more purposes
59:04 <rust_collector> heh, yes
59:36 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yes i put myself at risk of old lady diseases like osteoporosis and low bone density
59:52 <Nothing\> plus an excess of fat, worsening of my diabetes
59:55 <rust_collector> and various other weirdnessess
00:03 <Nothing\> aye
00:43 <Nothing\> but its worth it to me in lieu of the distraction
00:56 <rust_collector> what?
01:42 <Nothing\> well, i'd just much rather use my mind for more productive pursuits than masturbation or sex which both serve little to now purpse imo
01:55 <rust_collector> well, what does that have to do with anything?
02:33 <Nothing\> well cuz with a normal testosterone level, i would be dealing with such distractions
02:38 <rust_collector> you can have normal hormone levels without going around raping every park bench or other thing you see
02:45 <Nothing\> that's how it was before all of this happened
02:50 <Nothing\> i was damn near obsessed
02:58 <Nothing\> would masturbate for hours on end
03:00 <rust_collector> but that has been a little while....
03:13 <Nothing\> that's true
03:22 <Nothing\> but tbh i'd rather not risk it
03:35 <Nothing\> what i've got going now is a good compromise
03:50 <rust_collector> no, it is probably better to fall apart, than having a wank now and then
03:53 <Nothing\> if need be, i'll adjust it. i'm always keeping an eye out for problems
04:13 <Nothing\> anywho i think i'm gonna play some mario kart
04:18 <Nothing\> on the switch
04:35 <Nothing\> thanks for the advice rust_collector, i appreciate the sentiment.
05:09 <rust_collector> have fun. Well, I am just saying you might want to think abou tit. sorry if it came across a bit weird
05:31 <Nothing\> don't worry, you didn't at all.
06:08 <rust_collector> ok, I will try harder next time, lol
06:14 <Nothing\> we're familiar with one another and have a close enough relationship that you can say such things to me without me taking offense because i know you know me well enough to make an educated call and you're not just doing it to feel superior.
06:40 <Nothing\> you're not just playing armchair shrink
06:59 <Nothing\> you're legitimately trying to help
08:38 <rust_collector> yes, that is the idea. well, have fun, and say hi to mario
11:36 <Nothing\> oh i will
11:50 <Nothing\> they apparentyl added a whole buncha new stuff without me being aware
12:00 <Nothing\> like you can play as metal mario (or peach)
12:07 <Nothing\> or as any of the koopa kids
12:22 <rust_collector> uhm.... great?
12:32 <Nothing\> ikr? lol
13:06 <Nothing\> my point is, it's just cool when you play a game after a long hiatus to find they added a whole buncha new stuff in an update
19:23 <rust_collector> hsn, https://pastebin.pl/view/1a145202
19:44 <rust_collector> I don't know. something is slow in shanghai
22:48 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
36:37 <coppice> That's happening a lot right now. It seems like the package is going by land, but many are actually going by air freight from somewhere deepinthehearta China
39:42 <rust_collector> right. Just because of things like this, I wonder if stuff goes thru this little airport I was offered a very cheap ticket to once. it was pretty literally in the middle of nowhere. there were no return flights... and looking at maps, there was just nothing for as long as you could see. I think it was just a sort of storage area for planes, and maybe for distributing stuff, and such?
40:01 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
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30:17 <hsn> ofc u hug nothing ..
30:29 <hsn> hello
32:05 <rust_collector> oiio hsm
32:22 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. sand
32:31 <Ysjoelfir> my lathe arrived! \o/
32:43 <rust_collector> that was well before christmas
33:06 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
33:20 <Ysjoelfir> my cousin decided that he has business to do in frankfurt and brought that thing with him
33:28 <Ysjoelfir> well.. i kind of forced him to
34:19 <rust_collector> that will do
35:25 <Ysjoelfir> but it needs much work. its pretty... stiff. moving the... thing that moves back and forth tends to unscrew the handle rather than moving the.... thing
35:38 <Ysjoelfir> also I already ordered new belts
42:56 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxZblVUkMU
46:03 <hsn> these are annoying birds DHess_US
46:26 <DHess_US> I'm just passing on the pain.
46:39 <DHess_US> Now I feel much better.
47:06 <hsn> whats with france and muslims buzz
47:15 <rust_collector> what?
47:27 <rust_collector> muslims buzz?
47:28 <hsn> idk .. lots of news here
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47:37 <rust_collector> ok.
47:39 <hsn> some teacher was killed
48:23 <hsn> Samuel Paty
49:03 <rust_collector> that happens
49:16 <rust_collector> usually not exactly him, but
49:19 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Samuel_Paty
50:08 <DHess_US> I guess there is grusome video online.
50:13 <Eddie9956> My brother just gave me a eevlog brymen bm235 multimeter and when I hold the hold button and turn the meter on it only displays a letter C witch the manual say it's the 1st firmware so is it possible to update this meter
50:56 <hsn> where
53:04 Quit: Eddie9956 (Eddie9956X`[email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
53:51 <hsn> piece of shit internet
54:38 <rust_collector> stop going online, if you do not like it
56:09 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For all you dumpster printer aficionados, it's found a home in the lab. https://t.co/G4bBgJ6u0O
59:03 <hsn> i got disconnected rust_collector ^
17:59 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
42:13 * Ampera hugs hsn 
49:52 <rust_collector> hsn, stop disconne
22:52 <rust_collector> pheww
23:24 <rust_collector> I broke down, and went outside to get an iron, so I can finish messing up my iron
32:05 <Ysjoelfir> woah!
37:21 <rust_collector> I should still find a dim old green led, or orange, maybe
38:37 <rust_collector> I quite like this mod. a power on led, and the power switch moved to the front panel
47:14 <Ysjoelfir> thats always usefull. I appreciate it
48:23 <rust_collector> ok, a piece of shrink tubing on the sides of the led made it just about right. That one did emit a lot of light out the sides....
48:48 <rust_collector> I wonder if this was one from the christmas lights
49:38 <rust_collector> anyway, the best part of this, is that I can stack more crap around it, as I do not have to get to the switch on the side
50:25 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :P one can not have enough space
50:59 <rust_collector> right
51:28 <rust_collector> I need to replace this bench with something...something
52:14 <rust_collector> the coolest thing would be to reconfigure the piano, and have a bench inside that, and it has room for the stuff too
52:23 <Ysjoelfir> indeed it wood. do that!
52:28 <Ysjoelfir> *would
52:35 <Ysjoelfir> but doing stuff with wood is also great
52:41 <rust_collector> yeah
54:08 <Ysjoelfir> hmm
54:18 <Ysjoelfir> this apple tastes slightly alcoholic
54:29 <rust_collector> maybe later this winter.... because I have waaay too much stuff to do now. Then I can throw out most of the stuff in the garage, and maybe sell the old plymouth, and have space for things again
54:31 <Ysjoelfir> which is tasty, but... I'm sure its not supposed to be like that
55:35 <rust_collector> well, if it has a bunch of small needle marks all over... maybe curl your eyebrows a bit, and stare at the miss-tres
55:50 <Ysjoelfir> lol
58:49 <rust_collector> maybe it has been sanitized?
59:15 <Ysjoelfir> I think its just because its pretty old
00:29 <rust_collector> I was hoping kid #1 would be moved out a bit longer than he was. I could use his room...
00:53 <rust_collector> it does sound like he might have found an apartment again... we will see
02:28 <rust_collector> heh, I found my old "toy drill press" it is powered with a 3.5mm audio jack... I guess it would be ok, for pcb holes and such
03:00 <Ysjoelfir> I was wondering, I thought you mentioned that kid #1 wanted to move out.
03:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol, sounds realy beefy :P
03:24 <Ysjoelfir> says me who bought an antique bit brace on the flea market recently
03:26 <rust_collector> he did move. for a couple months
03:56 <rust_collector> you should not make fun of those. if you have proper bits for them, they are very efficient
07:06 <Ysjoelfir> they are amazing I have to say. I enjoyed using it and started collecting the auger bits from flea markets :X
07:25 <rust_collector> try to find some with the "pre-scoring" wings on the edge. they make such nice holes
07:28 <Ysjoelfir> the drills are cheap as dirt, but the bits are hard ti find
07:37 <Ysjoelfir> yep, exactly those are the ones I got
08:16 <Ysjoelfir> right now I have 8, 14, 24, 25mm and for whatever reason a (probably) 3/8"
08:58 <rust_collector> it could be a very well used 10mm, lol
09:08 <rust_collector> nah, but 3/8 is a nice size
11:28 <Ysjoelfir> I just wonder why such a thing is even here^^ probably from the UKs from back then
13:23 <rust_collector> eeeh, well, why would they be up here?
14:21 <rust_collector> inch stuff was common for woodworking, at least until the early 80s here
14:39 <Ysjoelfir> is that so? I didn't know that
14:54 <rust_collector> I still prefer it for that, actually. Not that I used it back then
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15:56 <rust_collector> Some times, I mix them, in the same project, which drives people insane
16:15 <rust_collector> but that is what you get when you have a bilingual tape measure
16:39 <rust_collector> if it lines up with 1", why would I write 25.4mm?
17:05 <rust_collector> or wth it is again... damn you mr brain
21:14 <Ysjoelfir> I think you are right :D
26:35 <rust_collector> hmm. lithium pouch batteries... psssh. what to do...
26:53 <rust_collector> I should just take them outside, and poke a nail thru them
27:24 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
28:24 <rust_collector> these 2 could make a nice powerbank. it is 2/3 of a car booster box thing. they should be pretty punchy
28:48 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely :D
29:19 <rust_collector> But I do not use powerbanks... I have several, and I only charge them every year or so, and put them back
30:18 <rust_collector> hmm, lumpy flashlight?
30:24 <rust_collector> that could work
32:15 <Ysjoelfir> make a cool one though. with a big searchlight
39:43 <rust_collector> did you do some more planning about your entire bench power bus thing?
41:11 <Ysjoelfir> Yes. I don't know if you ever saw my bench in a clean state?
41:54 <rust_collector> mm, not that I can remember
42:30 <arch> any particular reason i would NOT want to use IGBT's for a constant current load?
42:36 <arch> as opposed to using mosfets
43:45 <Ysjoelfir> rusty https://snipboard.io/EVIhs4.jpg
44:15 <rust_collector> arch, the one I used as an indian spec variable voltage thing does work fine, but it gets insanely hot...
45:17 <arch> Ysjoelfir, that's some antique scope you got in the corner
45:49 <Ysjoelfir> the most things "under" that elevated shelve thing (with the mostly white front) are purely 230V, no need to change anything there. but I have things I want to built into the free slots from the elevated thing that would work perfectly on 48VDC. Also I have a corded drill that needs 48V, as well as my soldering irons and my phone. So I think I get a some hundred watts 48V PSU and stuff that into that.
46:02 <arch> rust_collector, i salvaged huge TO-3P IGBTs from a 4kW UPS module. those are the ones i aim to repurpose
46:06 <Ysjoelfir> arch, thats a tektronix 502A. one of the three of those I have^^
46:09 <rust_collector> it is not a scope, it is the backup handbrake for his volvo
47:01 <Ysjoelfir> haha :P
47:04 <Halcyon> Morning everyone
47:10 <arch> good night
47:14 <Ysjoelfir> good night Halcyon
47:39 <rust_collector> eeh, I don't know, good times Halcyon
47:45 <arch> maybe Halcyon lives on a planet with a binary starsystem, and therefore knows not the concept of night
48:09 <arch> tidally locked* binary starsystem to be precise
48:09 <rust_collector> that is not far from the truth
48:20 <rust_collector> they are different down there
48:30 <Halcyon> arch, we all live in a flat earth anyway
48:39 <Halcyon> No such things as seasons and such
49:12 <arch> ugh nvm, i mixed up my package. it's not TO-3P IGBTs (i don't think those even exist?), but rather TO-247
50:55 <rust_collector> meh, those are beefy enough, I would think. but yes. at least in my very limited experience, they will work, but you will need good cooling
51:19 <arch> my cooling...is a GTX580 heatsink and fan. it's literally my dead graphics card :D
51:29 <arch> and that one has a TDP of 244W
51:29 <rust_collector> how much power are you trying to burn?
51:41 <arch> 150W max
51:56 <T3sl4> arch: aside from not having a DC SOA?
52:06 <rust_collector> hmm... anyone?
52:09 <rust_collector> oh good
52:11 <arch> i mean, it does have a DC soa
52:32 <arch> http://irf.ru/pdf/irg4pc50ud.pdf
52:51 * T3sl4 points the beer hose at rust_collector
52:55 <Ysjoelfir> eh? I always thought TOP-3P is very simmilar to TO-.247?
52:58 <arch> - Turn-Off SOA ?
53:17 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, it usually fits, yeah
53:47 <T3sl4> wow, i haven't bought IRG4PC50UD in over a decade
54:12 <arch> yea it's from an old UPS
54:18 <T3sl4> believe that's what's in this picture from 2006 https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/Induction719.jpg
54:31 <arch> you just wanted to show off. we get it :D
54:59 <Halcyon> T3sl4 is always flashing photos of his hardware
55:08 <Halcyon> I quite like it
55:10 <arch> no flashing
55:15 <arch> this is a Christian channel
55:27 * T3sl4 updates arch's nonvolatile memory
55:30 * Ysjoelfir grabs his double bearded axe
55:37 <Ysjoelfir> FOR ODIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
55:42 <T3sl4> Ysjoelbeard?
55:56 <Ysjoelfir> Ysjoelbeardrasil
56:07 * rust_collector goes around to make sure all crosses are still turned
56:13 <Halcyon> arch: Since when?
56:53 <Halcyon> I would make a terrible Christian (or relgious person in general)... with all the fornicatrion and homosexual sex :P
57:42 <rust_collector> not really, it is just something the christians think. Butt... they will come out some day
58:04 <T3sl4> steve30: https://gfycat.com/similarneighboringcougar
58:26 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
59:00 <T3sl4> people are religioning so bad these days, even the pope has to say civil unions aren't a bad thing
59:33 <rust_collector> good, maybe they will stop one of these days, and go do something useful
59:35 <Halcyon> I'm non-religious. It's much easier that way.
00:06 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
00:12 * Ampera cries as Halcyon goes to hell for not believing
00:12 <Halcyon> YAY!
00:15 <Halcyon> Hello Ampera :)
00:23 <Ampera> Hello sinner
00:24 <Halcyon> That's OK, I know how to put out fires :P
00:32 <Ampera> you're a cop not a firefighter
00:35 <Ampera> this is fake news
00:50 <Halcyon> I used to be many years ago
00:53 <rust_collector> maybe he has had his thing "burn"
00:53 * Halcyon feels old
00:53 <T3sl4> there are worse things to be called
00:56 <T3sl4> hello Ampera.
01:05 <arch> Halcyon, it was a joke :D
01:15 <Ampera> T3sl4, hello T3sl4, how are you, T3sl4?
01:25 * T3sl4 belches
01:34 * Ampera yells penis
01:53 <rust_collector> better than smells
02:04 <Ampera> I smell it too
02:36 <Ampera> smells like fish, Halcyon do you happen to be around here?
03:07 <Halcyon> No and I just showered :P
04:10 <rust_collector> makes me think of this one: https://imgur.com/a/2h2xnDH
05:11 <Ampera> I'm excited for the polling stations to open
05:15 <Ampera> I can't wait to vote for trump
05:25 <rust_collector> ok.
05:35 <Ampera> I genuinely think he's one of the best presidents we've had in a couple decades or so
05:48 <rust_collector> You should have an ice cream on the way also
07:04 * rust_collector tries to remember older presidents
08:26 <T3sl4> Ampera: i mean, there are faster ways to burn everything to the ground and kill everyone, he's rather poor at it in absolute terms
09:31 <rust_collector> eeh. I want to wait for 20 years, and see what happened in his period, before I say anything
10:52 <Ampera> Seems like the polling stations open up tomorrow
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10:56 <Ampera> Perhaps I'll go
10:58 <Nothing\> koo koo ka choo?
11:02 <Ampera> Hi Nothing\, how are you my friend?
11:03 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
11:04 <Nothing\> <3
11:08 <Nothing\> i'm doing well
11:11 <Nothing\> you see my teeth?
11:20 <Ampera> No, this is an IRC conversation not a video call
11:33 <Nothing\> lol you should seriously take a look at em
11:45 <Nothing\> i just had em prepped for crowns yesterday, 3 of em
11:46 <rust_collector> did you get them in a box?
11:55 <Ampera> I should, but as I said, this is an IRC conversation
11:58 <Ampera> I cannot see them
12:21 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/tPkBGfx/16033222816428894401660557200009.jpg
12:25 <Nothing\> well now you can
12:35 <Nothing\> -P
12:42 <Nothing\> i'm a pirate
12:47 <Ampera> now wishing I couldn't
12:51 <Nothing\> lol
13:01 <Nothing\> they had to burn my gums off via electrocautery
13:11 <Nothing\> hence why they're floating like that, i think
13:35 <Nothing\> but i get the crowns put in next wednesday so i haven't got long to deal with this
13:51 <Ampera> I may go vote tomorrow
13:52 <Nothing\> just can't chew anything on that side in the mean time. gotta be real gentle with it
14:01 <Nothing\> oh yeah? who you voting for?
14:02 <Nothing\> biden?
14:05 <Ampera> Trump.
14:10 <Nothing\> bs
14:14 <Ampera> Hahahaha
14:27 <Nothing\> dude if you voted for trump
14:38 <Ampera> Maybe he'll put he wall to Canada too
14:40 <Ampera> that'd be something
14:54 <rust_collector> that would be neat
14:57 <Nothing\> i'd hire a PI to track you down and make it my life's work to hunt you down and smack you in the back of the head
14:58 <Nothing\> lol
15:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, actually they already started building a wall between the US and canada
15:23 <rust_collector> Nothing\, you know you can just ask where he lives, right?
15:36 <Ampera> I'm starting to realize why people vote trump, because when you do, you can piss off a lot of people /real/ easy
15:44 <Nothing\> there was one spot between i think BC and washington where people were getting into canada illegally too much
15:48 <Nothing\> so they built a wall
16:24 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah but i don't think he'd wanna tell me if he knows it's so i can smack him for his political beliefs
16:33 <Halcyon> Time to go shopping. I'm making lasagne tonight :-)
16:50 <Nothing\> i had a hypoglycemic attack
17:01 * Halcyon gives Nothing\ some candy
17:03 <Ampera> Nothing\, tell me, why should I vote for Biden
17:03 <Nothing\> so my dinner was 2 spoonfulls of sugar.... ummm
17:06 <Ampera> he brings absolutely nothing to the table
17:11 <rust_collector> we built a shitty chainline fence on the border with russia, that goes all the way from the checkpoint, and at least 200 meters to each side
17:12 <Nothing\> a hot crossed bun
17:17 <Nothing\> oh hell what else
17:29 <Nothing\> actulaly that reminds me, i should check my sugar again
17:36 <Ampera> he represents an institution that has historically upheld some of the most racist and discriminatory policies our nation has ever seen
17:37 <Halcyon> You should make fairy bread
17:43 <Nothing\> cuz it was spiking after just the sugar, nevermind the 3 or 4 other snacks i had
17:50 <Ampera> one that actively refuses to allow its members to vote freely in their own elections
17:58 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/k96erGp
18:38 <Ampera> Trump has plenty of flaws, all presidents do, but he's done not bad for foreign policy, and a lot of the hysteria around him is drummed up just to be divisive
19:14 <Nothing\> oh yeah that'st right
19:21 <Nothing\> i also ate almost 2 large boxes of jr mints
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19:36 <Halcyon> Nothing\: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_bread
19:44 <Halcyon> It's a staple at kids birthday parties
19:59 <Nothing\> and yet, my blood sugar's lower now after the hot crossed bun and jr mints than it was after just the 2 spoonfulls of sugar
20:14 <Ampera> T3sl4, I don't believe in any of that.
20:25 <Ampera> I think hating people for their political beliefs is one of the saddest and most depraved things a person can do
20:34 <T3sl4> i didn't ask if you did?
20:35 <Nothing\> Halcyon, lol i can't eat anything with tiny hard pieces in it like that
20:38 <Ampera> and I regularly wear a mask where required.
20:41 <Nothing\> that would be like death to me
20:50 <Nothing\> in terms of the pain it would cause
21:07 <Halcyon> :(
21:15 <Nothing\> little sprinkles like that, though tasty, are the bane of my existance
21:18 <Nothing\> i know man
21:24 <Nothing\> i can't even eat nuts
21:25 <Halcyon> You could swap the sprinkles for honey?
21:26 <Nothing\> or popcorn
21:30 <Ampera> I refuse to vote by the metrics of a politician's supporters, if I did, I couldn't vote for either candidate.
21:35 <Halcyon> Butter and honey sammiches
21:38 <rust_collector> white bread with butter and bananas. that is as close to sugar as you can get
21:49 <Nothing\> can't eat wel done bacon either
22:12 <Nothing\> well i can't eat bacon of any sort, unless it's on bread or toast to act as a buffer for the crunchiness
22:28 <Nothing\> cuz i have no molars left
22:31 <rust_collector> I think... I understand why most of the americans I talk to are not going to vote.
22:35 <T3sl4> ironically when i eat bacon on toast, it's the toast that cuts up my mouth so much worse :P
22:41 <Nothing\> just my 2 pairs of premolars
22:50 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeah it does
22:56 <Nothing\> i have it on ciabata bread
23:04 <Nothing\> it works nicely as a buffer
23:07 <Ampera> how does toast cut up someone's mouth
23:19 <Nothing\> cuz it scrapes
23:23 <Ampera> unless it's a proper hard roll you /really/ bake harder
23:26 <Nothing\> it's very abrassive
23:31 <Ampera> well you don't use it as sandpaper and rub your mouth up with it
23:35 <T3sl4> it's sharp and crispy
23:38 <Ampera> it's toast
23:39 <Nothing\> like cap'n crunch
23:43 <Nothing\> cap'n crunch lite
23:46 <Ampera> it's not razor blade
23:58 <Nothing\> it might as well me to my weak-ass gums
23:59 <T3sl4> Ampera, what do you take a bite and sit there for a minute as it hydrates with saliva, then chew?
24:04 <Nothing\> lol
24:05 <Ampera> no
24:10 <Ampera> I take a bite, chew, and eat it
24:28 <T3sl4> do you eat like a fly, regurgitating digestive enzymes onto your food before lapping up the residue?
24:29 <Nothing\> T3sl4, well the saliva WOULD break down the starches in the toast
24:46 <Nothing\> so it would already be partilly digested when it hits his stomach
24:51 <Ampera> it just confuses me how the hell toast injures you
24:53 <T3sl4> Nothing\: not as satisfying as chewing (when you're able to..) but perfectly true ;)
25:03 <Ampera> people have eaten toast for thousands of years, and it's not been a problem
25:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol just give it 10-20 years when your gums start going on you
25:49 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah i always wondered how the hell people ate hardtack before modern dentistry
25:53 <Nothing\> seriously
26:00 <Ampera> toast != hardtack
26:08 <Ampera> you'd soak it, smash it with something, break it up, etc.
26:14 <Nothing\> i know but hardtack was more prevelant
26:25 <Nothing\> being a war and naval ration
26:44 <Nothing\> but i'm just imagining how those guys didn't have the best dental care
26:57 <Ampera> there were plenty of spare teeth around
26:57 <Nothing\> and no real dentists or modern dentistry
27:18 <Nothing\> i couldn't imagine trying to eat hardtack wth an infected tooth
27:37 <Ampera> also, my grandfather is in his 60's, he eats toast all the time and doesn't have blood gushing out his mouth from doing it
27:38 <Nothing\> nevermind with how my teeth were a year or two ago before i started getting them fixed
27:49 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.imgur.com/RI2SQD4.jpg
28:24 <Nothing\> Ampera, he probably has a top plate her for his dentures which completely covers the roof of your mouth
28:34 <Nothing\> but i'm assuming he still has his teeth
28:50 <Ampera> alright in fairness he does, perhaps he's a bad example
29:02 <Ampera> point being, this is the first time I've ever heard in my life that toast manages to /cut/ you
29:06 <Ampera> or otherwise injure or hurt you
29:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, it's not so much that it cuts you. it doesn't really cut you.
29:23 <Nothing\> it just scrapes your gums to hell
29:27 <Nothing\> it's very abrassive
29:45 <Ampera> well that's what teeth are for, you don't rub it on your gums
29:50 <Nothing\> and hence painfulto chew, especially with each subsequent meal
29:51 <T3sl4> it's not something i'd want to eat for every meal, but it's nice once in a while
30:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, well, it rubs on your gums as you bite down
30:16 <T3sl4> also, i like multigrain bread, which gets nice and chunky when toasted
30:26 <Nothing\> especially when you take a bite with your front teeth
30:34 <Ampera> how have I never once had this problem
30:40 <Ampera> and again, never heard of anyone else having such a problem
30:46 <Ampera> Halcyon, is this something you've ever dealt with
30:50 <Nothing\> and it dpends how well done you like your toatst
31:09 <Ampera> people being abrased by toast
31:17 <Ampera> Nothing\, I have a picture actually, one sec
31:47 <Nothing\> a dark 3 to 5 setting is gonna be much more abrasive than something less well done
32:10 <T3sl4> you may well just have firmer gums than i do
32:19 <T3sl4> or have a habit of eating harder foods
32:25 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/532723859368181771/IMG_20190109_195340.jpg
32:26 <Nothing\> T3sl4, he's also what? 18? 19?
32:31 <Ampera> this is a picture of my ideal toast
32:38 <Ampera> it's actually very hard to make in a normal toaster so this one was done in a pan
32:42 <Nothing\> oh man
32:48 <T3sl4> i'm not exactly ancient, but i am noticeably older than Ampera
32:49 <Nothing\> that would shred my gums to a pulp
33:18 <Nothing\> T3sl4, let's just say he's old enough to date my daughter and not have it be weird
33:25 <Nothing\> at least, not about the age thing
33:27 <Ampera> I recall that slice of toast, and now I sort of want it again
34:59 <Nothing\> lol i just remembered when i was married, i used to press my one friend about whether or not he wanted to screw my wife
35:10 <Nothing\> just for the sake of making him uncomfortable
35:39 <T3sl4> inb4 accidental threeway
36:32 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/3gVPKuT.gif
37:41 <Nothing\> lol that's alright, once when i was much younger and not as sober as i am now. i asked my brother's wife to have sex with me...
37:47 <Nothing\> in front of him
38:05 <Nothing\> then when she said no, i whipped it out to "show her what she was missing"
38:16 <Nothing\> which frankly speaking, isn't that much
38:43 <rust_collector> toast!
38:46 <T3sl4> i'm sure that went over well
39:24 <rust_collector> They are best friends now, I heard the other day
40:03 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Connection closed
40:45 <Nothing\> i remember once, i think it was xkcd or something where it had a flowchart of what cereal to eat for breakfast
41:08 <Nothing\> and at one point it asks "do you care about cutting up the roof of your mouth?"
41:36 <Nothing\> answering no would have it suggest eating cap'n crunch
41:49 <Nothing\> yes would continue the line of questioning
41:51 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, I remember that
42:08 <Ampera> anyone who eats cereal without letting it soften in the milk first is a psychopath
42:21 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's what i do
42:31 <rust_collector> it is worst for the first few decades
42:32 <Ampera> ...
42:34 <Nothing\> i give it a good 10 minutes at least to soften
42:37 <Ampera> oh
42:39 <Ampera> oh good
42:51 <Nothing\> i also microwave my ice cream
42:51 <Ampera> I thought you meant you /did/ eat cereal without letting it soften
42:55 <Ampera> ...
42:59 <Ampera> alright now we can't be friends anymore
43:15 <Nothing\> just so it's warm enough to be melty
43:25 <rust_collector> that is sick
43:25 <Ampera> :/
43:30 <Ampera> I eat ice cream as hard as I can get it
43:34 <Ampera> I like to chew mine
43:42 <rust_collector> do you put ketchup on it?
43:59 <rust_collector> canadians...
47:22 <Nothing\> i also microwave my juice to room temp before drinking it
47:31 <Nothing\> i can't eat or drink anything cold
47:59 <Nothing\> 20 seconds per 250ml at 1500watts
48:55 <Nothing\> tangent
48:56 <rust_collector> what size containers does juice come in?
49:19 <Nothing\> this stuff is that fancy POM brand pomegranate juice
49:24 <Nothing\> so i'm not sure
49:29 <Nothing\> i think 1.2L
50:02 <rust_collector> ok. maybe you should just leave it out of the fridge? because 1.2l would not last long anyway?
50:25 <Nothing\> my bad, 1.4L
50:39 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: EFF: Youtube-dl is a legitimate tool with a world of a lawful uses. Demanding its removal from Github is a disappointing and counterproductive move by the RIAA. https://t.co/VUbTokd4cP
50:39 <Nothing\> rust_collector, well i only drink 250ml a day
51:02 <Nothing\> but that's usually what i do with fruit and stuff
51:17 <Nothing\> i just leave it out so i don't hurt my teeth on it
53:06 <steve30> hi
54:26 <rust_collector> did you get your camera cleaned?
54:40 <steve30> not yet
58:02 <DogWomble> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq8DgpgtSQQ
58:11 Quit: TheDude ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
58:17 <DogWomble> ok i think i need to play with these, that's a very shocked looking joe dirt towards the end
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15:51 <_mamalala> 'morning folks
16:11 <rust_collector> evenightning
16:17 <steve30> hi
16:33 <_mamalala> long time no see
19:20 <Ampera> morning
21:13 <electrohead> oh shit
21:15 <electrohead> https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/
21:17 <electrohead> das no good
21:25 <electrohead> and, hey o/
21:56 <Ampera> electrohead, it's excellent
22:09 <Ampera> one step towards eliminating the communist scourge of piracy from the world
23:09 <rust_collector> uhm. there will be hard to find a replacement for that, I bet....
23:19 <Ampera> it's not even gone
23:24 <Ampera> the repo was just taken down
23:38 <Ampera> the "DMCA" claim has no legal grounds afaik
23:51 <Some_Person> ^ this
24:11 <Some_Person> I can't imagine their claim would hold up in court
24:13 * Ampera hugs Some_Person 
24:35 <Some_Person> lol, thanks
25:50 <_mamalala> the whole "copyright" crap has gone far beyond sanity since a long while ago...
26:09 <Some_Person> If youtube-dl is illegal, then so is basically anything that parses a web page
26:56 <_mamalala> it's about time that the whole "social media!" stuff gets a goo do-over... especially google
27:15 <Some_Person> Despite their claim of a "rolling cipher technical protection measure", YouTube doesn't actually do anything to protect their videos, other than the ones they sell
28:35 <Some_Person> I suspect the term "rolling cipher technical protection measure" was made up by someone to sound impressive to people who don't know better
28:35 <Ampera> damn right _mamalala, burn social media to the ground
29:20 <_mamalala> i hope that 230 will get overhauled....
30:59 <_mamalala> i mean, really... if they want to have imunity, because they are just a platform, then they should not censor anything.... if they think they need to select what is allowed, then they are a publisher, and should habe no immunity
31:26 <Some_Person> The biggest problem with copyright IMO is that it lasts too long
32:15 <Some_Person> life + 70 years or 95 years for corporate works is a really long ass time
32:47 <_mamalala> it's insane
33:17 <_mamalala> it grants people that have done no creative work a lot of money...
33:38 <Some_Person> The other major problem is that there's not really a good way for small-time people to handle disputes. Big corporations basically get to push people around because they can't fight it in court
34:08 <electrohead> well, my latest compiled youtube-dl package for arch linux is 2020-09-20
34:14 <electrohead> if anyone needs it, let me know
34:16 <electrohead> :P
35:46 <Some_Person> If you ask me, copyright should last more like 20 years
35:50 <Ampera> Please do not distribute pirating tools in the channel, especially illegal ones.
36:30 <Some_Person> That would put it on similar footing to patents
36:37 <electrohead> Ampera: lol
36:39 <_mamalala> copyright should be the lifetime of the creator, and that's it... creator dies, copyright done...
36:52 <Ampera> Copyright should be eternal.
38:19 <electrohead> "For example, as shown on Exhibit A, the source code expressly suggests its use to copy and/or distribute the following copyrighted works owned by our member companies:"
38:32 <Some_Person> It seems crazy to me that if you develop an important invention that changes society, you only get 20 years for it from the filing date (the process of getting it accepted knocks off an extra ~2 years), but sing a song, and you get life + 70 years
38:39 <electrohead> whoever did this, needs to be slapped very hard
47:56 <Some_Person> Not to mention the extremely long list of things where nobody knows who the hell the copyright owner is
48:20 <Some_Person> or cases where the owner is known, but they don't give a shit about it, so nobody gets to see the work
54:22 <Halcyon> https://twitter.com/YRN_Australia/status/1319817704627269634
54:27 <Halcyon> That's my take on it
54:31 <T3sl4> i love how easy it is to find the right thing to do. ask the Ampera-eight-ball, and do the exact opposite what it says
54:38 <Halcyon> RIAA and DMCA can get fucked, especially since they don't apply here.
57:55 * steve30 hugs Halcyon 
04:58 * T3sl4 deemphasizes steve30
05:53 <Ampera> Halcyon, RIAA isn't a law, it's an organization
12:13 <Halcyon> I'm aware
12:18 <Halcyon> My comment still stands, they can get fucked
12:30 <Halcyon> Hence my comment on Twitter
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16:00 <coppice> Ampera: There is an RIAA law. Its the fikter characteristic vinyl record recording uses.
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27:13 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/vcrSpsmyiYk?t=578
27:18 <Halcyon> I'm guessing he is a pot smoker
27:26 <Ampera> oh right
27:27 <Ampera> we have pot here
27:29 <Ampera> loser
27:47 <Halcyon> I can type faster than he can speak
27:55 <Ampera> how fast can you type
28:09 <Halcyon> *shrug* I haven't done a test in like 13 years
30:25 * Halcyon licks Ampera
34:10 <Halcyon> For fucks sake, Adelaide now havs 10 Gigabit internet
34:18 <Halcyon> Who the hell lives in Adelaide?
34:25 <Ampera> people freer than you
34:32 <Halcyon> *grumbles*
34:43 <Halcyon> Stupid VDSL
35:19 <steve30> hehe, I like how this PDF was printed on 100% recycled paper
35:25 <Halcyon> :P
40:54 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvqf8Z13PU
41:00 <Halcyon> Hehe
42:37 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU2hy0L5lgg
42:52 <Halcyon> Fucking WOW
42:58 <Halcyon> Hahahaha
43:03 <electrohead> this is great.
43:04 <electrohead> :D
43:12 <electrohead> cute bird btw :P
43:24 <rust_collector> mr andy has some pretty good ones
43:39 <Halcyon> That's pretty amazing
44:15 <coppice> Halcyon: a few places seem determined to have a mass rollout of 10G domestic internet, but I can't see the point
44:33 <Halcyon> coppice: Point or not, I'd like the option of 1 Gbps +
44:56 <Halcyon> And there will come a time where 10 Gbps is normal in a residential install
44:58 <coppice> 1G has a huge point.
45:17 <Halcyon> There is no point in rolling out technology now that is almost already obsolete
46:02 <Ampera> coppice, 1G? What are you on about grAMPS?
46:16 <coppice> sure there will come a time with 10G is really useful. However, 1G to everyone makes for much happy campers than the likely 10G to the easy targets and something shitty for the rest
46:32 <Halcyon> Sure, but the issue we are having is the underlying technology
46:35 <Halcyon> Copper is dead
46:55 <Halcyon> It needs to be ripped up and replaced with fibre. Same with Coax, it's awful for those who really need/want higher speeds
47:26 <Halcyon> Especially on coax since it's a shared medium
48:00 <Ampera> coax is good enough
48:03 <Ampera> people don't deserve fiber
48:10 <Ampera> people don't deserve nice things
48:28 <coppice> without fibre the data gets constipated
52:29 <coppice> fibre into the home is a pain, as it requires so much digging. You can get from the kerb into the home at 1G on a copper pair these days
52:46 <coppice> new biuilds should definitely have fibre into the home
53:33 <coppice> actually, new builds should have a duct into the home, to allow for cheap future upgrades
55:10 <Halcyon> Most homes here have conduit from the kerb to the street
55:24 <Halcyon> Just pull the existing copper out and use it pull fibre through
55:30 <Halcyon> *kerb to the house
58:33 <coppice> even older homes?
04:15 <Halcyon> At least anything built from 1992-ish onwards
04:58 <Halcyon> Copper wasn't generally direct bury
08:07 <Halcyon> The newer standard is that homes that are built need to have conduit designed for fibre (e.g.: observing specific bend radius etc...)
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21:00 <electrohead> o/
21:50 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. head
21:59 <electrohead> hey
23:11 <Ysjoelfir> so, what have you done today?
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39:01 <electrohead> I woke up, did some dishes, and made coffee
39:03 <electrohead> you?
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03:26 <rust_collector> COFFEE!!!!
11:57 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir,
12:01 <rust_collector> just hello
12:14 <Watcher> whats the name for the connector to convert flex pcb like in membrane keyboards
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20:59 <T3sl4> buh
21:45 <Ysjoelfir> hello rusticles. mr. head, I just mounted my new lathe to a wobbly cabinet so that its.... more rigid than before but still wobbly.
22:30 <rust_collector> buying a lathe to stiffen up a wobbly cabinet is not a bad idea
22:39 <Ysjoelfir> right?
22:47 <rust_collector> riiiight
22:49 <Ysjoelfir> I thought that would be a good idea
23:11 <Ysjoelfir> interestingly, mr. lathe works pretty well, despite looking like crap and half of the slides not moving a bit for whatever reason
23:23 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, like... the motor spins. and the chuck does, too
23:28 <Ysjoelfir> and its pretty silent while doing so
23:37 <rust_collector> lathes are build like chewing gum, and they are still stiffer than cabinets
24:24 <rust_collector> so, you need to be sponsored by wd40
25:12 <Ysjoelfir> pretty much, yes. I'll disassemble it in the coming days and see what can be loosened up
25:30 <rust_collector> aaaaallllllll the things
25:48 <Ysjoelfir> then I can finally make that bushing to mount that flywheel to my motor for my compressor and then I can finally use the compressor to blow out the jets in the BMWs carbs!
25:51 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a plan
26:54 <rust_collector> be careful. you might end up with a project to do a project until you do not know what the first project was again.
28:59 <Ysjoelfir> I had that problem before, which is why I actually didn't want to start like 5000 projects at once again
29:22 <rust_collector> it is a bit late for that now... ok
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41:39 <Ysjoelfir> I decided that I'll be focusing on two projects at a time.
41:57 <rust_collector> one on the right, and one on the left. makes sense
42:20 <rust_collector> one eye, one havd
42:29 <rust_collector> spelled with a n
42:54 <Ysjoelfir> exactly. I started with a little home automation thing, but I don't have much fun with it at the moment. instead I will focus on a Project I started yesterday, because I want to kick my soon to be ex employer in the nuts. and project 2 is that project chain I just mentioned
44:51 <rust_collector> good good. that beats my non-plan, by a lot
48:21 <rust_collector> I tidied up my bench a bit this morning, before I went to couch. I have all the space now. it is weird, because I really only moved the little power supply thing a bit
48:41 <Ysjoelfir> What I mean with kicking my employer: Our sales department is saying that we need a small, portable, reasonably priced, two channel power analyzer to sell to customers, as they demand that. right now we have: 1Ch, non portable, expensive. 4Ch, non portable, very expensive. 4 Ch, non portable, reasonably priced, 7Ch, absolutely not portable, freakishly expensive
49:30 <rust_collector> selling things that people want can not be a business plan???
49:41 <Ysjoelfir> Mr. Boss is like: Great, we build that. Mr. Sales is like: Yes, lets do, the customers will love it! Mr. Production is like: Cool, we have the capability for a new product, lets get started. Mr. Head of Dev is like: No, thats not neccessary, nobody needs that.
49:59 <rust_collector> heh
50:31 <Ysjoelfir> so we can't develop it. and on one of the last talks I recently had with mr. boss he was like "maybe, if you develop something in the future, you can give me a call and we might build that in license
52:18 <rust_collector> do you think mr boss is a little bit annoyed my mr dev head, maybe?
52:47 <Ysjoelfir> yes. a little big bit
54:11 <rust_collector> I get the impression that mr boss is a pretty nice guy, as a person.
54:21 <Ysjoelfir> I once was ranting about mr. head of dev for like 15 minutes while talking to mr. boss. I suddenly noticed that, apologized and was like "I didn't mean to complain like that, he's a gread head of dev." - mr. boss was like... pulling his eyebrow up very far, looking at me and saying: "pf. he might be a great engineer, but he has absolutely no skills in management"
55:33 <Ysjoelfir> mr. boss is indeed a very nice guy. he also gave me a free loan when he noticed that I had money problems last year. called from time to time when I was in home office to hear how we are (not a single question about work there, just pure personal, and he called every employee)
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