// #eevblog — 2020-10-04
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00:00:22 <Viproz> hehe yeah, maybe I'll turn the wifi and bluetooth off before connecting the button !
00:01:35 <electrohead> I normally build a dedicated power supply for my ESP based projects, and grab power from the very beginning input (stage?); this is so I know that I have stable, and enough, power for the ESP chip
00:02:09 <electrohead> have a bin full of LM1117's in the back, for stuff like this
00:02:33 <electrohead> but, then again, that's just me, I can get crazy a bit at times :P
00:04:49 * Ysjoelfir has a box full of small meanwell on-board PSUs
00:05:02 * Ysjoelfir pulled that out of the companies trash once again
00:05:07 <Ysjoelfir> pretty usefull stuff
00:06:08 <Viproz> Yeah sometimes over engineering is simpler ! I'll try it like that and I'll see if everything works, from what I see my board should draw less than 200mA so should be okay if I switch most of the stuff off when the activation is done
00:06:14 <electrohead> ooo, yeah they're nice to have
00:06:46 <electrohead> Viproz: are you going the optocoupler or relay route?
00:07:38 <Viproz> let me dig into my electronics box and I'll be able to tell you :D
00:10:02 <electrohead> ok :D
00:10:17 * electrohead throws at least 50 optocouplers at Viproz
00:10:19 <electrohead> cheers, haha
00:10:57 * Ysjoelfir empties the box with ~5kg "unsorted optocouplers" in front of electrohead and Viproz
00:11:44 <Ysjoelfir> I should finally start to photograph and categorize my "stuff I pulled out of the companies trash that have to be sold" stuff and put that into my shop and switch that off from maintenance mode...
00:11:44 <electrohead> heh
00:13:15 <electrohead> I still need to go through a few bin fulls of boards, and desolder all components
00:13:22 <electrohead> just taking up space as of right now
00:15:21 <Ysjoelfir> I stopped doing that quite some years ago. just cherry picking valueables now, the rest goes in the bin
00:15:58 <Viproz> Looks like the winner is an optocoupler, a 4N35 I think it's going to be the easiest
00:20:38 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: yeah, that's why everything started to pile up, for me haha
00:20:59 * Ampera hugs electrohead
00:21:00 <electrohead> Viproz: let us know if anything blows up xD
00:21:04 * electrohead hugs Ampera
00:22:42 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
00:23:19 <electrohead> I'm doing, still trying to wake up
00:23:20 <electrohead> yourself?
00:23:31 <Ampera> About to go to the supermarket
00:23:39 * electrohead gives you money for food
00:23:57 <Ampera> Downloading music to my phone, though I think I'm gonna do it over USB instead of 802.11
00:23:59 <Ampera> as this is taking forever
00:26:30 <electrohead> lol
00:28:26 <Ampera> Only bother is it's a pain in the ass to mount MTP devices on Linux
00:29:38 <Ampera> there we go
00:29:39 <Ampera> much faster
00:31:07 <Watcher> why is the linux communty not fixing that problem?
00:31:18 <Watcher> the standard is now for years
00:31:31 <Ampera> Watcher, comes down to it's not that simple, it's not a normal block device, and they already have
00:32:00 <Ampera> The utility I've always used was a pain in the ass, I downloaded a new one and it seems to be decent
00:32:27 <Ampera> but this is because I mount everything manually, not caring about automatic mounting. If you had a nice shiny distro with auto mounting, or if I set that up, it'd not be an issue
00:32:44 <Ampera> and before, my MTP utility was a complete pig, I've just tried another one and it's fine.
00:32:56 <electrohead> Ampera: I use jmtpfs for mounting my android based phone, works a treat
00:33:03 <Ampera> Yeah I just started using that
00:33:13 <Ampera> I was using aft-mtp-mount before and it's a pig
00:33:31 <Ampera> it actually didn't even work on my phone, which is odd, so that's why I'm using something else now
00:33:32 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
00:33:38 <electrohead> heh
00:33:54 <electrohead> I've been using jmtpfs for some time now, and it has never let me down
00:34:10 <Ampera> I usually just did transfer over something wireless
00:34:22 <Ampera> but the implementations of SFTP on Android suck ass
00:34:37 <electrohead> wait, correction - randomly, my device will time out, then I need to unmount and remount
00:34:42 <Ampera> It's a good reason why I might want to root my device some day, then I can get FUSE and all will be well.
00:34:43 <electrohead> but, it doesn't happen that often
00:35:16 <Ampera> Well at least a perpetually blocking device doesn't completely crash explorer, like in Windows :P
00:35:25 <electrohead> :P
00:35:36 <Ampera> 25 years now and Microsoft can't figure out how to deal with devices that block
00:36:46 <electrohead> random video - https://youtu.be/KRzd7SknVrQ
00:36:50 <electrohead> this is pretty good, heh
00:37:40 <Ampera> It is kinda cool that no matter how much music I ever listen to I can never fill up my phone
00:38:00 <Ampera> or at least I'd have to try pretty damn hard
00:38:20 <electrohead> how much storage again do you have on it?
00:38:24 <Watcher> there for you need to download high qualtiy .wma files
00:38:45 <Watcher> mp3 is to compressed there for
00:39:20 <Ampera> electrohead, 512GB UFS 3.1, and presently 256GB Secure Digital, but up to 1TB is possible if I spend more money
00:39:37 <electrohead> that's nuts
00:39:45 <Ampera> Watcher, I have a few CD-based FLACs, which are close to as high quality as you can go
00:39:59 <Ampera> Really the most you can do is increase the sample size
00:40:20 <Ampera> You can increase the sample rate, but Nyquist theorem proves that's almost useless
00:43:08 <Watcher> but it will help you with get you storage full
00:43:39 <electrohead> lol
00:43:51 <electrohead> well, sounds like a challenge, then?
00:44:23 <Ampera> True, but all the music I store locally is music I've listened to and enjoyed at some point
00:44:31 <Ampera> and my rate of discovery for music is rather low
00:46:50 * electrohead hands you my metal collection
00:52:11 <electrohead> well, ok
00:52:33 <electrohead> I have a huge metal collection, then a decent sized rock collection, some classical, flamenco, and electronic music
00:52:40 <electrohead> total size, 273G
01:02:19 * rust_collector hangs led pentagram in the other window.
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01:27:37 <electrohead> how many is that now, rust_collector?
01:27:54 <electrohead> :P
01:44:28 * Ampera throws 2 for 1 St. Louis ribs at electrohead
01:44:36 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20201003_114127.jpg
01:44:43 <Ampera> cart of food
01:47:42 * T3sl4 carte blanches Ampera
01:48:01 Quit: Viproz ([email protected]) EOF from client
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03:16:11 <Ysjoelfir> it's time for Lørdagspizza!
03:18:43 <rust_collector> 663 so far, electrohead
03:19:00 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxqC-uKp9Og
03:19:07 <rust_collector> 662, I mean
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03:24:18 <rust_collector> damn leds, what was wrong with good old candles?
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03:26:31 <Viproz> Well sh*t, I got careless and by mistake the logical ground touched the chassis of the machine, I guess it wasn't supposed to be connected since it blew the main chip up :/
03:26:49 <rust_collector> oOpS
03:29:34 <Viproz> I guess I found a new way of decaping a chip ! https://photos.app.goo.gl/S7CuBVC5x4poXwqb8 (You can even see the ground plane that acted like a fuse at the bottom right)
03:30:56 <rust_collector> very innovative! But now it is pretty hard to read the part number...
03:33:41 <T3sl4> that method seems less common than the off center blowout, courtesy of bondwires
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03:42:05 <electrohead> Viproz: Ouch =\
03:44:28 <electrohead> at the same time.. that looks pretty brutal
03:44:31 <electrohead> lol
03:49:06 <Viproz> Yeah it was for sure, I really didn't expect this, it wasn't just at some floating potential it had quite a bit of current to do as much damage
03:49:25 <Viproz> Oh well, I wasted 40€ and an opportunity to use an ESP32
03:58:02 * Ysjoelfir just shoved two pizzas into the oven
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04:16:27 <electrohead> Viproz: so, can you get a replacement PCB?
04:16:44 <electrohead> I imagine the chip that blew is a micro, yes?
04:17:02 <electrohead> well, wait, I know the one picture earlier you posted had the numbers on it
04:17:05 * electrohead looks
04:17:34 * electrohead pokes Ampera
04:20:01 * Ysjoelfir hands electrohead a pointy stick
04:20:16 * electrohead accepts the pointy stick
04:22:24 <electrohead> https://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine?Keyword=D78F0513
04:29:11 <rust_collector> having the chip is one thing, but you probably need to have some kind of program for it too
04:31:30 <electrohead> well, definitely :p
04:31:39 <electrohead> I'm just posting references/information
04:31:54 <Ysjoelfir> who needs software anyways?
04:32:12 <Ysjoelfir> just recreate it in hardware!
04:32:20 <rust_collector> that is a much better question (like anyone asked a question)
04:33:37 <electrohead> lol
04:34:05 <Viproz> Haha yeah a friend of mine asked me why I didn't just control the washing machine with the ESP32 :D
04:34:17 <rust_collector> you could probably do that
04:35:26 <rust_collector> aaah, how I miss the old zanker "automatic" that you turned on and off, and you could use a timer switch on the wall plug.
04:35:43 <rust_collector> I do not miss the straight cut steel gears it had, lol
04:37:28 <rust_collector> it did sound like a herd of concrete mixers galloping across the savanna
04:38:08 <Ysjoelfir> I love our miele. it is so old that it doesn't have any PCBs in there. just a electromechanical switch-motor-array.
04:38:24 <rust_collector> right
04:38:40 <rust_collector> but it is too full of concrete for my taste
04:39:11 <Ysjoelfir> naaah. it weighs just 129 kg
04:46:11 <rust_collector> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMQ8K8UiU46HSMGPIEL0zdy52H605lFPqWwA9l1pLl6r6kidEMuUfhywaSCmpRdQQ/photo/AF1QipOgbuz5ihC5__pjQ0mKxZEpXG0cD99HQ6XcH-Be?key=LWZVaDg5bHkwQUlRMUNQM2xsaUpvNjZDc2U0Sk9R
04:46:18 <rust_collector> why does this happen?
04:47:40 <electrohead> did that just fall in your food?
04:48:22 <rust_collector> mm no
04:48:45 <rust_collector> I just thought it was interesting that they come on one by one like that
04:49:26 <rust_collector> note the continental weird plug thing on the right
04:50:03 <electrohead> oh oh, ok
04:50:06 <electrohead> lol
04:51:22 <rust_collector> same bulbs, same wires... sure the wires are longer, but.. not thaaat much?
04:54:21 <Ysjoelfir> those bulbs might use some circuit which could have some inrush curent limiting, and the tolerances could make out the delay?
04:55:33 <rust_collector> so, if he moves the bulbs around, they should change their "startup pattern"?
04:55:58 <Ysjoelfir> yes
04:56:59 <rust_collector> well, I will have him do that, and see what happens
04:59:50 <rust_collector> heh, he has it mounted under the hood thing, so he is "looking for a child that can film it"
05:05:41 * T3sl4 hugs Ysjoelfir
05:05:50 * Ysjoelfir hugs T3sl4 back
05:06:00 <T3sl4> what's up?
05:09:02 <Ysjoelfir> Lørdagspizza!
05:15:00 <T3sl4> \o/
05:24:30 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/vH82xHU.png
05:42:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol
05:50:03 <rust_collector> that is almost the picture in my head when Ysjoelfir mentions the no longer produced lørdagspizza. just with a big pizza in the sky
05:50:24 <rust_collector> ok, so it looks like it was just differences between the bulbs
06:01:21 <T3sl4> when the rust_collector hits your eye like a big lørdagspizza that's amore
06:02:20 <Ysjoelfir> its a sad thing that they discontinued that, right?
06:03:08 <rust_collector> uuh, no. but I see your point
06:03:19 <rust_collector> I like the original one more
06:04:47 <Ysjoelfir> I only tried the saturday pizza (yes, I'm to lazy to go and copy the o with the dash and yes I know that typing this takes even more time :P ), the original and the quadro ost thing.
06:07:49 <rust_collector> not that I remember exactly what it was, but iIrc, if you took a lp, and removed the... did it have meatballs? and the bag of sour cream stuff, it is pretty similar
06:09:35 <Ysjoelfir> yep^^
06:33:44 <rust_collector> it smells like we will have homemade cheesy discs. I can smell mushrooms, and onion...
06:35:07 <T3sl4> ooh
06:35:45 <T3sl4> i just made some mushrooms, and other things, that i'll be topping pasta with shortly
06:40:32 <rust_collector> I hope she is distracted by someone, and forgets to put the mushroom stuff in the pizza
06:41:14 * Ysjoelfir likes shrooms
06:42:15 <rust_collector> they taste ok, but I don't like chewing on them
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07:18:19 <jackbrown> hello could anyone help me to identify this ribbon connector that i need to replace? https://i.ibb.co/hZRCrDw/image.png
07:21:16 <T3sl4> can you take a more frontal picture
07:21:29 <T3sl4> also what's wrong with it? tab broke/pulled out?
07:24:23 <jackbrown> T3sl4: the clip retainer is gone, plus some pins are bended
07:24:54 <jackbrown> T3sl4: so I wont able to install anymore the ribbon cable on it, so I have to replace, what's their names what do I have to search to buy a new one ?
07:25:16 <T3sl4> ffc connector
07:25:46 <jackbrown> T3sl4: tnx
07:25:48 <T3sl4> you'll need the width and thickness of the flex that goes into it, which side makes contact, number of pins (10?) and pitch, and mounting
07:26:08 <T3sl4> some of those you may have to flip thru datasheets, the suppliers don't always have all that stuff listed up front
07:27:22 <jackbrown> T3sl4: oh my gosh is that complicated !
07:27:41 <T3sl4> you have about 10,000 parts to choose from, better get it right ;)
07:29:25 <jackbrown> T3sl4: lol, I just see number of pin and pitch on Aliexpress
07:29:38 <T3sl4> ew
07:30:13 <jackbrown> T3sl4: number of pins is 10 and the contact is down
07:30:30 <jackbrown> T3sl4: the whole connector is 9mm so i think pitch should be 0,5mm
07:30:36 <jackbrown> T3sl4: I'm I wrong?
07:31:39 <jackbrown> T3sl4: there are FPC and FFC connector
07:32:39 <T3sl4> mostly synonymous
07:33:17 <jackbrown> T3sl4: ok
07:33:48 <jackbrown> T3sl4: is there on aliexpress a kit that contain the main used ffc so I can buy many to have just in case ? what do you suggest ?
07:34:05 <T3sl4> is there any mfg mark or logo on the body, by any chance?
07:34:05 <jackbrown> T3sl4: I mean different size and pitch so to have it in my "lab"
07:34:28 <jackbrown> T3sl4: i don't think so
07:37:41 <jackbrown> T3sl4: where should be? I can check with the microscope ? on the top on the sides or maybe I have to remove it since it's on the bottom ( I don't think so)
07:38:07 <T3sl4> i'd tell you if i knew the manufacturer :P
07:40:46 <jackbrown> T3sl4: but you mean the ffc manufacturer or the device manufacturer ?
07:41:34 <T3sl4> the connector
07:41:54 <T3sl4> this may be easier https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/ffc-fpc-flat-flexible-connectors/399
07:41:56 <jackbrown> T3sl4: ah ok
07:42:25 <jackbrown> T3sl4: so there's no standard for FFC connectors?
07:42:31 <jackbrown> T3sl4: there are many kinds?
07:43:36 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, I have a real bargain for you
07:43:48 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 https://www.ebay.de/itm/SPEZIALKARTON-120KG-60000-IC-TTL-CMOS-RAM-Konvolut-Opto-AD-NAND-NOR-C-Op-Amp/392277089962
07:44:18 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 do you have a noise notification if someone mentiones you?
07:44:21 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, i bet you could build a computer with that
07:44:39 <T3sl4> maybe even two ;)
07:44:45 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: do you?
07:44:51 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 probably :P
07:45:01 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4: Hell no! XD
07:45:18 <T3sl4> i have the window flash on mention
07:46:11 <Ysjoelfir> same here
07:49:17 <electrohead> o/
07:49:36 * T3sl4 flashes electrohead
07:50:39 <rust_collector> уду!
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08:04:33 <electrohead> lol, hey
08:08:54 <rust_collector> T3sl4, be careful flashing mr head, he might reflect it all back to you
08:09:58 * T3sl4 RAIDs rust_collector
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08:20:02 * T3sl4 scritches the steve30
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09:13:25 <hsn> hi all .. gn all ..
09:14:05 <hsn> bye all o/
09:14:09 <rust_collector> about time, hsn
09:14:18 <hsn> about?
09:14:24 <rust_collector> you should be in bed
09:14:34 <rust_collector> before the wife is even more annoyed
09:14:44 <hsn> yes exactly .. wht im doing
09:15:02 <rust_collector> mmhmm, she is getting pretty angry...
09:15:16 <hsn> also we recieved email from HR .. no more late allowed
09:15:40 <rust_collector> so....
09:16:04 <hsn> [10/4, 1:08 AM] wifi ❤️: I'm going to sleep
09:16:04 <hsn> [10/4, 1:08 AM] wifi ❤️: Charge my phone please
09:16:42 <hsn> she slept
09:18:31 <rust_collector> maybe you should wake her up, an tell her you are there?
09:20:11 <hsn> no no good
09:20:56 <hsn> i gonna try to sleep bcz if i dnt nothing will wake me in mrning
09:21:07 <hsn> so enjoy ur night bye
09:21:12 <rust_collector> good... maybe not, but it would be fun..for the rest of us
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11:11:12 <arch> :D
11:11:54 * T3sl4 noogies arch
11:12:29 <arch> back in da nerd club :3
11:31:21 <rust_collector> ok, good night....nerds
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12:57:15 <electrohead> o/
13:03:41 * Ampera hugs electrohead
13:04:05 * electrohead hugs Ampera
13:04:11 <Ampera> how do friend
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13:17:14 <electrohead> it's doing for me, how do for you?
13:17:17 <electrohead> lol
13:20:45 <Ampera> electrohead, bought a shit ton of food today
13:21:04 <Ampera> the issue is I keep buying meat, but all the things I tend to do with meat I only really want to eat with mushrooms
13:21:14 <Ampera> but mushrooms just don't keep
13:21:22 <Ampera> so I can't really buy that many mushrooms
13:21:50 <electrohead> can't you freeze them?
13:22:23 <Ampera> I thought about that, but I'm concerned it'll affect the structure of them
13:22:31 <Ampera> I could always try it. Not now though as my freezer literally has zero space
13:22:38 <Ampera> which is impressive as that's a large freezer
13:22:52 <Ampera> the second issue is I keep going to the fucking store and buying shit :P
13:23:10 <Ampera> and what I usually buy I buy with the idea that I can freeze it/store it for later, as it's usually shelf stable stuff like pasta
13:23:19 <Ampera> so now I have 12 pounds of pasta, and a freezer full of almost nothing but meat
13:28:51 <Ampera> I did get buy one get one St. Louis ribs, pre rubbed
13:28:54 <Ampera> full racks
13:29:01 <Ampera> so those are going in my smoker
13:35:50 <electrohead> I need to get my ass to the store this week, getting low on food a tiny bit
13:44:23 * electrohead invites himself over for ribs
13:44:37 <electrohead> I'll bring some vegetables and such :p
13:54:06 <Ampera> I think I'll have some of my baguette now
14:08:14 <electrohead> I'm heading to bed, will be talking to you tomorrow
14:08:18 <electrohead> g'night
14:09:53 <T3sl4> i'll take your baguette Ampera
14:10:46 <T3sl4> also, mushrooms aren't /bad/ dried, but they're definitely better fresh /shruggy
14:14:20 <Ampera> T3sl4, yeah but what about frozen
14:14:31 <Ampera> which is what we were talking about
14:14:34 <T3sl4> probably fine
14:14:51 <T3sl4> don't think i've seen them frozen usually? and i can't really think why, tbh
14:14:55 <Ampera> yeah so that might make sense for me as I go through periods of using shit tons of mushrooms, and just then not being able to get to the ones I have
14:15:16 <Ampera> well mushrooms have a sort of odd structure, and the expansion of freezing I'm worried might fuck it up
14:30:55 <T3sl4> but dehydration is likely to do as much cellular damage
14:31:12 <T3sl4> oh, also, i can think of a use of frozen mushrooms, on frozen pizza. they're always super soggy
14:31:49 <T3sl4> i'd think that can be dealt with by frying the moisture away, or boiling where it can't matter anyway
14:33:07 <T3sl4> freezing is likely to preserve subtle flavors better, as long as you avoid freezer funk, but also assuming it's there to begin with, which the common mushrooms really aren't anything special so
14:51:09 <T3sl4> oh wierd, big ol big-daddy-longlegs creeping along my wall, seems to be missing two legs tho
14:53:37 <Ampera> T3sl4, I'd say dehydration is likely more aggressive, as it's contraction rather than expansion
14:53:45 <Ampera> and I don't think I've ever had mushrooms on a frozen pizza
14:53:59 <T3sl4> supreme is aptly named
14:54:08 <Ampera> too much veg for me
14:54:37 <T3sl4> pepper is a fruit, you fruit
14:56:10 * Ampera smacks T3sl4 silly with a sausage
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15:53:09 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/BFIT7LL.jpg
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16:50:32 <steve30> yay hugs :)
16:53:30 <T3sl4> yay chili
16:53:39 * T3sl4 munches some
16:54:13 * steve30 meows at the chilli
16:56:31 * T3sl4 gives steve30 a bowl
16:57:05 <steve30> *nibbles*
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18:02:28 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CF1yqRqFbGQ/?igshid=d6agu31if9tw
18:04:20 <hsn> hey this muther fkcer is deleting my toolchain
18:04:35 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/gGnjN4.jpg
18:04:47 <hsn> cant even exclude it
18:08:19 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Woah, I can get up to 1000M/400M with @Aussie_BB I think I'll move to the 250M/100M plan at $209/month though. $319 for 500M/200M FTTP for the win. https://t.co/iYy2UZSbBN
18:12:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: What internet plan should I move to? Yes I know you probably get the 1000M for $20/month in your country, go on, brag. FYI, I used to pay over $400/month for 20M/20M VDSL before the NBN
19:12:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Well, there you go! https://t.co/KbTfza9bAt
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20:00:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Desoldering MAGIC: Louis Rossmann, eat your heart out! https://t.co/eMpdtqK62R
20:08:55 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Desoldering MAGIC: Louis Rossmann, eat your heart out! https://t.co/Aw6ulLr53l
20:18:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Every single video on both channels I'm now getting several of these spam comments per video. Always Asian boobs. https://t.co/kHR2uwnc3R
20:20:02 <hsn> hey Halcyon
20:20:43 <hsn> what r these doing in my drawer :9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/KiVqRCaLS7BmvQZa6
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20:29:44 <Ysjoelfir> hello i wonder if i should get a 48v psu with 1284707777488 watts from aliexpress to power my 200€ poe router and also create a dc bus for my lab!!!!!!11111???????
20:29:53 * Ysjoelfir imitates random guest joining
20:38:49 <Ysjoelfir> you don't like me :( you ignore me! Now I'll leave without saying anything!
20:51:08 <hsn> no
20:51:27 <Ysjoelfir> no?
20:51:36 <hsn> 1284707777488 means probably no fuse
20:51:42 <Ysjoelfir> so i should not get that gazillion amperevoltswatts PSU?
20:51:42 <hsn> it will pop up ur mcb
20:51:45 <hsn> annoying
20:51:54 <Ysjoelfir> damn
20:52:04 <Ysjoelfir> so what you suggest?
20:52:36 <hsn> EEVBlog convert 128470777488 uwatts to watts
20:52:37 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
20:52:45 <hsn> didnt work
20:52:59 <hsn> EEVBlog convert 128470777488 uw to w
20:53:00 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
20:53:11 <hsn> EEVBlog convert help
20:53:18 <hsn> eevblog convert
20:53:23 <hsn> eevblog help
20:54:11 <hsn> thats the thing
20:54:22 <hsn> my pc starts beeping on everything now
20:57:12 <Ysjoelfir> y u at work? :D
20:57:25 <hsn> huh?
20:57:37 <hsn> sunday = first of week
20:58:38 <Ysjoelfir> aaah, I see. in the western world its monday and you have saturday and sunday off :D (usually)
20:59:03 <hsn> so i checked the lenovo s30 manual .. beeping i think it DRAM issue
20:59:07 <hsn> :)
21:00:28 <hsn> yes .. i should work til thursday .. take 2 days off .. travel saturday night to europe for "work" .. get 2 days off their as its weekend .. and then come back and work thursday ..
21:00:37 <hsn> repeat every week
21:01:12 <hsn> tuesday wednesday and thursday = work
21:01:17 <hsn> rest are weekends
21:04:01 <Ysjoelfir> lol :D
21:10:59 <hsn> so u want to share poe with the lab psu ?
21:24:16 <Ysjoelfir> I kind of thought about it. well, not realy with my lab psu, but I thought about building a 48V DC bus (since open frame PSUs are way cheaper than power bricks) which powers some of my devices like my soldering iron and a lap PSU, but has also a wire to the router and its POE power input
21:24:34 <Ysjoelfir> i expect it to be pretty sensitirve to problems though :P
21:25:21 <rust_collector> mornings
21:28:34 <Ysjoelfir> hi
21:29:08 <rust_collector> Some time ago, I thought about having a bare wire across the work area, that I could clip wires to, then send everything to some ground point. but I do not think it makes much sense, lol
21:30:17 <rust_collector> otoh, I am constantly out of outlets. and I only have the computers and scope and power supplies plugged in
21:31:36 <rust_collector> 11 outlets on the bench. 10 are used, and the last is not really usable, because of a weird shaped power brick
21:34:09 <rust_collector> that bare wire idea would be similar to the drive shaft in the roof system they had in old machining shops, and such. just put a belt on where you needed power.
21:38:43 <Ysjoelfir> I thought about such things, too
21:39:01 <Ysjoelfir> I actually like the idea, but that would only be "acceptible" with lower voltages imho :P
21:39:09 <rust_collector> sure
21:40:28 <rust_collector> I think 48v is a weird number, do you have many things running off that?
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21:54:02 <rust_collector> going to birthday "party" have fun.
21:54:10 <rust_collector> should not take very long
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22:09:30 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Unicorn Magic Meme - Doug Henning https://t.co/JOJjivHaHc
22:32:29 <Ysjoelfir> 48V is actually a pretty common voltage, rusty :) many things use that nowadays and its probably going to become more common over time
22:32:33 <Ysjoelfir> also, wtf: https://www.cyberport.de/markenshops/outlet/gebrauchtware-b-ware-/notebook-tablet/notebooks/pdp/gwhd-561/microsoft-surface-go-2-10-5-4425y-8gb-128gb-ssd-win10-s-stt-00003.html
22:49:25 <Watcher> €9.487 for a pentium computer that is redicules. a pc that you can trowaway after a year
22:50:25 <Watcher> and can it even handle your programs if the 8gb ram is full? i do not think so
22:52:55 <NeroTHz> that is clearly an error in the listing
22:53:21 <NeroTHz> (also, I know a lot of people with surface hardware and they all last a long time. I´m still using my pro4 as daily driver)
22:59:08 <Watcher> i don't say that the pc is dead after 1 year. my experice with pentium en celeron processors is that they are to slow to run basic software with windows 10 and windows 10 is not good optimased if you have X amount of you hdd full (and that point is in a few months), so after a year you will buy a new one because this thing is to slow for your need
23:05:53 <electrohead> I use a 48V supply for my bench setup in the back, that feeds into the voltage/current controller, so I have jacks that have adjustable power, then jacks that go straight to the 48V rail, for whatever I need that for
23:06:01 <electrohead> and, g'morning o/
23:21:15 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. head
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