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00:18 <Ysjoelfir> last warning. stop that.
00:25 <Donald> They tested my DNA and found only USA.
00:44 Quit: Donald ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
01:06 <Ampera> hahahaha
01:28 <electrohead> Ok, that's pretty good, lol
01:29 <Ampera> come on, at least he's being creative with his shitposts
01:39 <coppice> I'm glad to hear Mr Duck is feeling better
02:05 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: you going to ban the host?
02:16 <Ysjoelfir> well... when he did that for some other people besides mr. carrotman it was just annoying. now its annoying and funny.
02:22 <Ampera> nah don't ban anything, he's not annoying enough for that
02:22 <Ysjoelfir> should I?
02:33 <electrohead> ok ok
02:59 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I would just have kicked him. that could make up for some cute kick-join games
03:05 <electrohead> actually, that sounds good for now, cause part of me is curious what else he/she has to say, heh
03:19 <Ampera> I wonder if it is the same guy
03:27 <Ampera> maybe it's even one of us on a sock
03:28 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder that, too
03:31 <Ysjoelfir> lol
03:31 <Ampera> if it is, I accuse hsn
03:34 <Ysjoelfir> you think so?
03:38 <Ampera> of course
04:15 <Ampera> that being said, if he comes in here again and makes a load of random typos, then it's probably coppice
04:19 <Ysjoelfir> nah. I doubt it could be hsn. hsn's english is not THAT good, also I don't think he would annoy us like that on purpose :D
04:23 <Ysjoelfir> lol
04:32 <Ampera> yeah hsn only accidentally annoys us
04:39 <Ysjoelfir> exactly XD
04:56 <electrohead> that IP block is registered to Telstra Internet
05:20 <Ysjoelfir> what is that?
05:34 <hsn> wait what happened
05:35 <Ampera> woah
05:42 <Ampera> wouldn't it be crazy if that's actually EEVBlog dave doing that
05:47 <hsn> someone has bad internet?
05:47 <Ysjoelfir> nothing hsn^^
06:04 <electrohead> for all we know, it could be xD
06:04 * Ampera hugs and kisses hsn, puts him to bed
06:20 <Ysjoelfir> you think his SWMBO would approve?
06:43 <Ampera> even I'm starting to get annoyed by that initialism :P
06:52 <hsn> ampera its me kick him
06:53 <Ysjoelfir> lol
06:55 <hsn> :p
07:00 <Ampera> /kick hsn
07:07 Kick: hsn was kicked by Ysjoelfir ()
07:12 <Ampera> :/
07:17 <Ampera> great going asshole :P
07:20 <Ysjoelfir> xD
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07:29 <Ampera> that was Ysjoelfir
07:36 <Ysjoelfir> no it was Ampera :D
07:37 <Ampera> send the hitman after him please
07:44 <hsn> not me .. the other me u suckers
07:48 <Ysjoelfir> oh
07:54 <hsn> xD
07:56 <Ampera> ohhhh
07:58 <Ampera> I gotcha
07:59 <Ysjoelfir> damn
08:11 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ampera
08:14 <hsn> ok .. so mr boss requesting me
08:18 Kick: EEVBlog was kicked by Ampera (Ampera)
08:20 <Ampera> there we go
08:20 <hsn> new pc
08:24 <Ysjoelfir> XD
08:25 <Ampera> the other hsn is gone
08:28 <electrohead> lol
08:33 <hsn> good
08:38 <hsn> eevblog help
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08:50 Quit: EEVBlog ([email protected]) Changing hosts
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08:57 <hsn> eevblog gaycount
09:00 <EEVBlog> hsn sleep with both eyes open tonight
10:03 <hsn> sure i do that healthy stuff daily ask rusty
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11:24 <hsn> this was my pc requirment what u think https://photos.app.goo.gl/3TgQK91cEMPbvH2a9
11:31 <hsn> idk this stuff :)
11:49 <Ampera> requirement for what you're getting?
12:04 <hsn> for having fun at work
12:18 <Ampera> decent enough, but you should get an AMD CPU instead
12:36 <hsn> why so
12:39 <hsn> cheaper ?
12:41 <Ampera> wait for the new Zen 3 CPUs to come out this year, they completely trounce Intel
12:47 <Ampera> cheaper, faster, better, cooler, nicer
12:56 * electrohead throws RISC-V processors at everyone
12:57 <Ampera> the boards tend to be cheaper, and you get things like PCIe 4 support
13:07 * Ampera StrongARM's electrohead into a locker
13:21 <hsn> does .. windows and its softwares support amd very well?
13:30 <Ampera> just as well as it does Intel
13:37 <Ysjoelfir> get an AMD.
13:37 <coppice> Ampera: you mean that something which isn't here yet is going to be better than what is available now? amazing
13:46 <Ampera> coppice, incredible
13:56 <Ysjoelfir> either Zen3 or Zen2 is also nice :)
14:08 <Ampera> no my advice is if someone new and amazing is about to release really soon, waiting a bit longer to get it is a good idea
14:12 <hsn> and amd talks good with which graphic card?
14:13 <coppice> get get an AMD any time you need a GPU
14:20 <Ysjoelfir> I agree with Ampera
14:22 <Ampera> hsn, any graphics card
14:35 <Ampera> AMD GPUs are meh
14:47 <hsn> for gaming amd also recommended?
14:49 <Ampera> if you can get one cheap, it'll be a GPU, and if you're a Linux person, you get slightly nicer drivers
14:55 <Ampera> but nvidia cards tend to be better\
15:03 <Ampera> AMD is perfectly fine for gaming
15:06 <Ysjoelfir> its not as complicated as it was "back then". I remember times where even two identical RAMs didn't work together. nowadays there is very less incompatibility
15:20 <Ysjoelfir> I play games with a first generation ZEN regularely. so... yep, works
15:22 <Ampera> Intel currently holds the lead in one or two CPUs with single threaded performance, but it's looking like Zen 3 will destroy that lead
15:27 <coppice> I wish AMD would take GPGPU seriously. they have a lot of the right elements in place
15:47 <Ampera> coppice, for how much datacenter and server stuff they've done for ages, it's weird that they don't
15:48 <electrohead> I haven't used AMD in some time, probably should get on that
16:25 <Ampera> and in terms of mobile CPUs, if this is a laptop, AMD is far and beyond destructive of Intel's offerings
16:37 <Ampera> for really the first time in recorded history
16:38 <hsn> so what would be good amd cpu ~3ghz ddr4+ support with 5+GB gpu?
16:49 <Ampera> ddr4+ support?
16:56 <Ampera> and why are you measuring the power of a GPU by its memory size
17:01 <Ampera> and your CPU by its clock speed
17:11 <Ampera> those numbers are worthless in isolation
17:15 <hsn> ddr5 is not up yet?
17:20 <Ampera> DDR5 is not a thing yet
17:31 <hsn> ah ok
18:14 <Ampera> well, it is, but not implemented anywhere
18:20 <hsn> no but i tgought if u get 5gb it will come with the other good features that im not aware of?
18:34 <Ampera> No, that's not how it works.
18:38 <hsn> lol
18:45 <hsn> ok wait then
18:51 <Ampera> Memory size is just the size of the memory, you can put 5GB of graphics RAM on almost anything
19:03 <Ampera> yeah, higher end cards are likely to have more, but that doesn't definitively /mean/ anything
19:23 <Ysjoelfir> I'll be on my way home. hsn, get an AMD and you will be happy :)
20:00 <hsn> cpu 3GHz+ .. cache 4MB+ .. 4cores with hyperthreading to 8? closer Ampera
20:02 <hsn> ??
20:10 <Ampera> those numbers are still useless
20:22 <Ampera> what's important is how it actually performs, for which benchmarks are useful.
20:27 <hsn> then what u should look for
20:35 <Ampera> While it's not a /great/ benchmark, I often use passmark to get ballpark figures
20:51 <Ampera> Ultimately, I'd say wait for Zen 3 to come out, and get the best Zen 3 CPU you can afford
21:10 <Ampera> as Zen 3 really is what's significant about those CPUs, having the newest, most efficient, and best performing technology available per core
21:45 <hsn> this is .. they want to give me a pc today available locally in the dessert
21:51 <hsn> to make me work again
22:12 <hsn> zen 3 if i can afford will be good for me at home
22:39 <hsn> idk what it is .. i just trust u
23:30 <Ampera> If it's out of your control, someone is buying whatever you say, yeah then whatever forks
23:33 <Ampera> er, works
23:51 <Ampera> but AMD has been doing better and better over Intel recently, as their fab tech is far and away beyond Intel's
24:31 <Ampera> so they can make smaller, less power hungry circuits, that perform better than what Intel has. Intel's only main advantage is they have quite a bit of architectural proficiency, just not enough to save them
24:56 <K> but amd does not have it's own fab
25:03 <Ampera> I never said it did.
25:09 <K> ok
25:29 <Ampera> However, they use TSMC's fab tech, which is currently actually working right, unlike Intel's shrapnel of 10nm production
26:09 <coppice> The one thing Intel has been able to rely on for decades to pull them through management cockups has been their processes. Now they are screwing up on those, I wonder if they might be really screwed this time
26:23 <hsn> Ampera: sucker where u knw all this stuff? xD
26:50 <Ampera> hsn, bits and pieces from everywhere. Reading news, knowing what's coming out, just keeping track of what goes on.
26:58 <hsn> the ampera magazine?
27:17 <coppice> TSMC grew rapidly though integrity, rather than technology. its interesting to see them finally become a technology leader
27:20 <Ampera> I actually get much of this off the Google News feed
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23:48 <spark_gap> me/ waves
24:46 <Ampera> /me waves back at spark_gap
24:55 <spark_gap> :D
26:10 <spark_gap> I am confused, can you explain me something about AC and DC coupling ?
27:07 <NeroTHz> the difference is if you do or don´t have dc
27:27 <spark_gap> exactly
27:57 <spark_gap> but if i want I can make something to not have dc
28:15 <NeroTHz> what do you mean
31:03 <spark_gap> so for example, if you want to amplify some sort of HF signal, and this signal is for example manchester encoding, or on off keying
33:03 <spark_gap> so if I understand correctly when this binary signal ("0" is 1V and "1" is 4 volts) transmitts a lot of zeroes or ones you get a DC component in your signal?
33:34 <spark_gap> in this situation I need DC coupled amplifier?
34:10 <spark_gap> in other words this is so called non return to zero signal
35:37 <spark_gap> but if i modify my signal so that it never transmits long rows of zeroes and ones, then to amplify this signal i can make simpler AC coupled amplifier?
42:54 <NeroTHz> what you describe there (binary signal 0 being 1 volt and 1 being 4 volt) is not manchester
44:04 <NeroTHz> manchester has only AC, and a 1->-1 transition is a binary 1, and a -1->1 transition is a binary 0
44:39 <spark_gap> so yes , i made mistake
44:56 <NeroTHz> and indeed, if you ensure that you have no DC content in your signal (be it by using linecodes or wahtever) you can use ac-coupled amplifiers
45:28 <NeroTHz> it´s what we do all the time - usually you avoid that DC anyways for clock-recovery (if you have long series of 1´s or 0´s your clock can drift and lose lock)
45:38 <coppice> I'm sure if I drove over to Manchester right now I could find some DC being produced by batteries
46:11 <rust_collector> coppice, how long does it take to go there?
46:22 <spark_gap> so from practical prespective, it is better to avoid DC coupled HF amplifiers?
46:35 <coppice> about an hour and a half.
46:51 <rust_collector> hmm, ok
47:04 <spark_gap> it is better to use modulation such that tere are no DC and long 1111111111 or 00000000
47:08 <spark_gap> ?
48:44 <spark_gap> as I understand HF, high gain amplifiers with DC coupling is not very good idea
56:51 <coppice> high gain and DC are always a bad match, regardless of the frequency band
00:40 <NeroTHz> hehehe
00:52 <NeroTHz> the reason you often don´t see high-gain amps with DC coupling is because your DC is also your bias
01:36 <NeroTHz> or just amps with DC. you need something like a differential pair with feedback to allow full DC flexibility too
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05:46 <coppice> DC is very standoffish. It goes off the rails when you try to integrate it, even a little bit
06:00 <NeroTHz> you´re on fire today coppice
06:53 Quit: Dantali0n ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
07:03 <coppice> is integration really important? what difference does it make?
07:27 <NeroTHz> the difference between knowing where you are or how fast you´r going
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13:06 <coppice> NeroTHz: "Do you know how fast you were going?", "Can you tell me where I am, officer", "you are just north of Smallville", "sorry officer. I now have no idea how fast I was going"
22:19 <K> (gets shot)
22:19 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/ozhhiAF.jpeg
39:56 Quit: spark_gap ([email protected]) Connection closed
10:55 <T3sl4> buh
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29:35 <hsn> i just saw stupid gamer streamer who purchased a land on a moon .. for 110$ maybe
30:01 <hsn> and i gave him some cents by fcking watching that stupid fcked up video ... fck me and fck him
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41:32 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/CLhYYNc.jpg
43:49 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.imgur.com/H4dc5OT.jpg
04:48 <Ampera> FOTD: https://amperaa.net/f/index.php?topic=725.0
07:59 <K> noice
47:10 <coppice> Ampera: if you keep posting that picture you are going to get a ribbing
47:51 <Ampera> coppice, don't get cagey with me.
48:12 <coppice> OK, I'll bar getting cagey
50:56 <electrohead> o/
14:38 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
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38:26 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
39:18 <electrohead> hey Ysjoelfir
39:30 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr. head
40:55 <Ysjoelfir> so, while I eat this gorgeous, delicious Burger: how is it?
48:06 <electrohead> how is what, the burger? you tell me :P
06:12 <Ysjoelfir> no, your mood and stuff :D
06:34 <Ysjoelfir> the gorgeous, delicious burger was... well.. gorgeous and delicious.
14:50 <electrohead> lol
15:04 <electrohead> surprisingly it's a slow night tonight at work
15:21 <electrohead> wait
15:26 <electrohead> 'knock on wood'
15:44 <Ampera> did someone say wood?
15:50 <electrohead> because then my luck, a shit load of people would come in
15:52 * Ampera is excited
15:58 <electrohead> Ampera :P
16:12 * Ampera hugs electrohead's wood
17:12 <electrohead> lmfao
17:17 <electrohead> goof :p
17:36 <electrohead> is it always political in the other eevblog channel (on afternet)?
17:50 <Ampera> No, but it can be.
18:11 <electrohead> it's been going for a good minute, now
18:13 <electrohead> heh
18:40 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
20:13 <Ysjoelfir> it always depends who is online. :D
20:27 <Ysjoelfir> best thing is:
20:42 <Ysjoelfir> they all love everyone, even after nearly killing each other.
20:55 <electrohead> isn't that IRC in general? haha
20:55 <Ampera> haha
21:12 <Ysjoelfir> well, besides coppice. noone doesn't like coppice :P
21:14 <Ysjoelfir> right? :D
21:18 <Ysjoelfir> erm
21:21 <Ysjoelfir> *noone likes coppice
21:22 <Ysjoelfir> so
21:43 <electrohead> coppice seems cool :P
21:56 <Ampera> wha?
21:59 <Ampera> coppice is the best guy around
22:03 <Ampera> I should ban you just for saying that
22:06 <Ysjoelfir> xD
22:25 <Ysjoelfir> We all love coppice for his comments to exactly the right time
24:38 <coppice> I fully support the opinion of Ampera
24:43 <Ampera> <3
24:50 <Ysjoelfir> Noone supports me :(
24:53 * Ysjoelfir tipps over
25:04 * Ampera gives Ysjoelfir suspenders
25:10 <Ysjoelfir> ey
25:13 <Ysjoelfir> I'm a german.
25:16 <Ysjoelfir> Those are standard for me
25:54 <Ampera> I'm a german too, and I've never worn a pair in my life
26:11 <Ysjoelfir> you should. you will be amazed by the comfort
26:15 <Ysjoelfir> also, it can look so cool
26:50 <Ampera> Right on, if I ever decide to dress like I'm living in the 70's
27:06 <coppice> nobody wore suspenders in the 70s
27:58 <Ampera> coppice, well I don't even have that as an excuse then
28:00 <Ampera> nevermind
28:56 <coppice> I remember as a kid, most trousers had the buttons inside the waistband for suspenders, yet nobody wore them
30:04 <Ampera> "In response to this, the BBC defended the programme by stating that the cow had not been harmed or injured by Clarkson and that it had died several days previously before the scene was filmed."
32:45 <steve30> hi
33:36 * Ampera pets the steve30 and hands him a coffee
35:58 <electrohead> coppice: I said you're a cool person, do you support my opinion as well? :P haha
35:59 <steve30> :)
36:18 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gallery/c76a6Cw
36:49 <electrohead> just had an older lady, I think in her 80's, come in to purchase wine coolers, and as she left, she said "have a good night, and stay sober"
36:52 <electrohead> hahahaha
37:29 <coppice> electrohead: well, I am cool. I was thinking of turning the heating on
37:56 * electrohead hacks your thermostat
38:20 <coppice> nah, its still 18 in here. I think I'm ok
38:51 <Ampera> eevblog convert 18c to f
38:52 <EEVBlog> The result is: 64.4 f
38:55 <Ampera> that's fine then
39:30 <electrohead> my computers would love that temperature right now
39:48 <electrohead> normally I open up the window in the back room in the mornings, just to get a nice breeze inside the lab area
40:00 <electrohead> then everything purrs nicely
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17:23 <electrohead> Here we go
17:26 Quit: Donald ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
17:33 <electrohead> lol
20:44 <electrohead> jumping from one proxy to another, it seems
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55:43 <rust_collector> mornings
56:08 <electrohead> howdy
56:55 <rust_collector> hola senor cabeza
57:26 <electrohead> guten tag
57:33 <electrohead> :P
58:28 <rust_collector> well, it is pretty late abend here... you should do something interesting for the rest of the day, because almost nothing happened over here in the real world
58:49 <electrohead> lol, well, it's been partially dead here at work
59:07 <electrohead> not as many people have been coming in tonight for their booze
59:23 <rust_collector> same here. well, no one
59:54 <rust_collector> which makes sense, as I don't sell booze
00:12 <electrohead> :p
00:19 <rust_collector> I have to buy some one of the days, before saturday
00:42 <rust_collector> I guess I can do that at work on friday, that should work ok
01:04 <electrohead> what kind of alcohol do you drink?
01:09 <rust_collector> I hope I won't remember the rest of the weekend. then I have 2 weeks off
01:30 <rust_collector> well, mostly just vodka or baileys. some times rum.
01:57 <rust_collector> depends on if the wife is drinking at the time
02:09 <electrohead> if I ever end up in your neck of the woods, we should have a drink together
02:38 <rust_collector> yeah, we could arrange something then I guess
03:12 <rust_collector> I am not sure if I would be allowed in to visit you, so... you better come here
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10:49 * electrohead teleports to your place
10:58 <rust_collector> oh, hi!
11:18 <electrohead> that would be so nice
11:20 <rust_collector> please, have a squat over there--->
13:14 <rust_collector> well, you have the risk of being re assembled wrong. I am not sure I would trust teleporting for a while
14:08 <rust_collector> so, how do you think you would like it here, with all the communists?
15:09 <rust_collector> mom is always told she is a communist, when she is in the us. which is pretty fun
16:40 <electrohead> no idea
17:01 <electrohead> but, would be nice to say I visited a different country again
19:42 <rust_collector> I hear you can get very very cheap land in mauretania these days. you could build a fort there
20:28 <electrohead> lol
44:12 <electrohead> just caught myself falling asleep here at the store
44:19 <electrohead> 15 more minutes and I can close
45:07 <rust_collector> oh, then you have time for a little nap before you go
46:16 <electrohead> not really :p
46:25 <electrohead> than I have a 15-20 minute drive back home
46:44 <rust_collector> but then you have to go all the way back tomorrow?
47:02 <rust_collector> you are in a store, you have all you need. just buy a mattress
32:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: First DC fast charge! Was only doing 14kW for some reason though. Peaked briefly at 25kW. 50kW capable CCS station. https://t.co/Iw3g7GOdDZ
46:33 <electrohead> no food there, only bottles of water for us employees and such
46:45 <electrohead> no room for a mattress, either
47:35 <rust_collector> your store sucks! BOOOO!!! BOOOO!
48:07 <rust_collector> so. how can you have a store with no room to lie down?
49:23 <electrohead> :P
59:04 <rust_collector> you know... you should come here, and we can climb up on the water tank and grill some cheap sausages, after getting drunk, because I am not going up there sober
59:53 <electrohead> lmao, sounds like a good time, hahaha
00:02 <electrohead> I'm just about to get ready for bed, though
00:19 <rust_collector> whaaat? it is still day where you are?
00:21 <electrohead> need to be up on the early side, tomorrow
00:25 <rust_collector> oof
00:27 <electrohead> it's 2100 here
00:32 <rust_collector> right
00:32 <electrohead> * currently
00:37 <rust_collector> it is 3 here
00:51 <electrohead> 0300, or 1500?
00:57 <rust_collector> 0300
01:08 <electrohead> what are you doing up so late?
01:34 <rust_collector> I just got home from work, and made food, ate, then made more food, the ate that
01:46 <rust_collector> nothing too exciting
02:17 <rust_collector> I had to eat twice, because this was yesterdays breakfast
03:26 <electrohead> lol
03:38 <electrohead> well, I would chat more, but I do need to get to bed, mate
03:46 <electrohead> so, be talking to you on the flip side
03:51 <electrohead> g'night o/
03:52 <rust_collector> blah blah, well ok. good night
04:13 <electrohead> the work life can be a drag, gah
04:27 <rust_collector> yeees
04:47 <rust_collector> I have thought about quitting work, but I probably won't, until the kids move out
05:44 <electrohead> lmao
06:01 <rust_collector> what?
06:18 <electrohead> "until the kids move out"
06:21 <rust_collector> yeah
06:30 <electrohead> just sounded funny
06:36 <rust_collector> well...
06:59 <rust_collector> I sort of have to pay for stuff while they live here
07:15 <electrohead> fair enough :p
07:17 <rust_collector> when they move out, they will probably be better off than they are now
07:38 <electrohead> let's hope so haha
07:47 <rust_collector> maybe not the first one, as he is into computer games
07:59 <rust_collector> but the other 2 will probably do ok
08:56 <rust_collector> ok, go to bed or something
13:42 <electrohead> I use the weechat relay on my phone, so decided to jump on for a few extra minutes
14:21 <rust_collector> well, you should not do that.... now you won't get proper sleep....
14:56 <rust_collector> but yes, now you did it, so... too bad. I guess we have some hours to waste before you have to "get up"?
16:17 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
18:48 <electrohead> well, I do believe I feel a bit manic, so it's possible if I don't fall asleep within the half hour or so, I'll go back out to the TV room and chat for a while
19:06 <rust_collector> yeah, see?
19:28 Quit: Lord_of_nothing ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
20:05 <rust_collector> tv room... I took apart sparky tv yesterday. it is boardless now.
20:43 <electrohead> would be nice to fall asleep early one or two nights this week, though :P
21:24 <rust_collector> well, when you fall asleep at work, but figure you have to wake up and go home...
22:09 <electrohead> are you planning on repairing the board, or buying a replacement?
22:36 <rust_collector> no, I plan on grabbing the stuff I want, or like the look of, and bin the rest
23:20 <electrohead> and lol, yeah, funny how the mind is, now is like "stay awake"
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23:39 <electrohead> fair enough, that's a good plan
24:02 <rust_collector> this was a sort of old-ish tv. it had a good amount of neat things inside, but I guess most of the work was done by a few big ic things
24:57 <rust_collector> it did look very modular. I bet you could get similar models with a different feature (pcb) plugged in, and a different back cover
26:14 <rust_collector> my brain does that at around 22-22.30 or so. I can be useless and almost falling asleep all day, but after 22, I am "awake"
27:25 <electrohead> I have so many bins full of boards and parts
28:40 <rust_collector> I... uhm, yes
29:14 <rust_collector> not so many right now, but plenty of stuff, yes. and I still never find that thing I really am looking for
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31:18 <rust_collector> I would probably have to make some of switchmode thingie, if I wanted to use most of the parts I have.
31:40 <rust_collector> it seems like all my junk is too new to have much interesting in them
33:27 <rust_collector> talking about that... I wonder if I should look into a variable frequency thing for controlling motors.
25:24 <rust_collector> electrohead, !!! are you sleeping yet?
38:22 <T3sl4> evenin
38:40 <rust_collector> morning
39:43 <rust_collector> heh, you like switchmode sort of things, right?
40:06 * T3sl4 injects harmonics into rust_collector's veins
40:44 <rust_collector> eeeee! stop that!
41:04 <rust_collector> aargh, you could unclog something
47:27 <rust_collector> i have to go take a nap. I hope I don't get my veins full of blood and goo
47:31 <rust_collector> good night
54:16 <T3sl4> may your corpses remain dry and lifeless
58:56 <rust_collector> thanks. I give them life some times.
59:14 <rust_collector> just to take it away again
00:20 <rust_collector> I wonder if I can change the frequency of a little 12 to 220v inverter... I guess I could at least use the output side of one to make a variable frequency drive sort of device
00:45 <rust_collector> meh, have enjoys, I am going to bed
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57:38 <steve30> :)
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38:36 <K> hello
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01:26 <Halcyon> Oops: https://9to5mac.com/2020/10/06/t2-security-chip-on-macs-can-be-hacked-to-plant-malware-cannot-be-patched/
03:36 <K> cool
03:53 <K> one more reason to stay with my 2014 mbp
03:55 <gremlinz> death to macs
04:31 <K> why death though?
05:08 <Halcyon> K because they are pretty garbage
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05:20 <Halcyon> And I mean that literally: Polished terds
05:46 <K> ah ok
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12:27 <Halcyon> YAY!
12:30 <Halcyon> *cuddles*
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53:15 <steve30> hi Halcyon
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43:35 <NeroTHz> man transistors are too complicated
43:41 <NeroTHz> I already miss my passive copper structures
43:56 <electrohead> o/
43:57 <NeroTHz> didn´t have no gain or non-linear current/voltage relationships
46:23 <NeroTHz> ah well
46:29 <NeroTHz> comparing 40nm to 28nm to 16nm
46:33 <NeroTHz> wish me luck
46:47 <NeroTHz> (I just want my sweet sweet 55 BiCMOS)
48:58 * electrohead wishes you luck
49:03 <electrohead> good morning, btw
49:09 <NeroTHz> monin indeed
49:49 <electrohead> gremlinz: and IOS, too
50:40 <electrohead> but, I say that because the UI is a pain to work with
50:51 <electrohead> NeroTHz: what exactly are you doing?
51:01 <NeroTHz> designing chips
51:13 <NeroTHz> 100 gbit/s transmitter/receiver at 150 GHz
05:00 <electrohead> sounds fun :D
06:52 <gremlinz> indeed
07:43 <NeroTHz> eh, it´s a mess. It´s been 5-6 years since I´ve worked with transistors, and I´ve never really done a full design (I usually work with the filters and PCBs)
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