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00:10 * Ysjoelfir is a totally new kind of device
00:28 <hsn> Ysjoelfir is a kind device
00:49 <Ysjoelfir> maybe that as well
01:12 <Ampera> so you're saying you're at tool?
01:14 <Ampera> nice
01:23 <Ysjoelfir> yes. please use me.
01:27 * T3sl4 DUTs Ysjoelfir
01:28 <hsn> i didnt forgot my name .. that video deserves a dislike for the lie title
01:39 * Ampera abuses Ysjoelfir's tool
01:44 * hsn turns the table
01:44 <Ysjoelfir> what are you testing me with, T3sl4?
02:02 <T3sl4> about 3.50A
02:17 <Ysjoelfir> thats fine
03:46 <Ysjoelfir> thats under my absolute maximum rating
19:36 * T3sl4 reads Ysjoelfir's datasheet
20:18 <T3sl4> sheesh, did you know this thing is only good up to 38C? what a waste
24:41 <T3sl4> wtf, application section is empty, whoever manufactured this? they deserve a sternly worded email
32:38 <Ysjoelfir> send it to *mums mail adress* please, we will take care of it ASAP!
38:12 <hsn> https://www.crossco.com/resources/articles/determining-safety-integrity-levels-for-your-process-application/
39:07 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, did u ever use this stuff: http://rohmfs.rohm.com/en/products/databook/operation/passive/resistor/common/r_failure_rate.pdf ?
40:24 <Ysjoelfir> yes
40:26 <Ysjoelfir> erm
40:27 <Ysjoelfir> wait
40:32 <Ysjoelfir> I saw "see", not use
40:40 <Ysjoelfir> let me wind back and answer again: no
41:46 <hsn> hmm .. do u know where this stuff is being , how being used ?
42:23 <Ysjoelfir> in military, aviation, space, government, automotive,... stuff I assume. but for consumer grade stuff I doubt many do that
42:25 <hsn> MIL STD // reliability calculation i guess .. but like on resistor ? to define the total board?
44:37 <T3sl4> hmm, i need a coffee
45:31 * hsn sends T3sl4 a cooffee
46:22 * T3sl4 sends hsn a coughie
46:49 * Ysjoelfir coughs
47:23 <hsn> :D
47:49 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, after enjoying two more coughies erm... cookies yesterday, I noticed that the cardamom ones are the best for me I think. I guess I am ready to send them over to mr. rust now
48:49 <hsn> ah i see .. so .. tell me .. the water palm thingy vs the cookies ..
49:19 * T3sl4 snaps Ysjoelfir, ginger-ly
49:33 * Ysjoelfir brakes in half
49:49 <T3sl4> those sound like a good compliment to coffee
49:57 <Ysjoelfir> whats with the palm sperm vs cookies, hsn?
50:24 <hsn> because .. palm = water === expensive shipping .. and i wanted to know is it worth shipping
51:36 <hsn> Halcyo-n wanted some .. so after i recover from my last few months expensis .. i will send again after few months :D
51:58 <Ysjoelfir> aaah, I see. I personally like it, though its an unusual taste for the european mouth. Kelly doesn't, probably mostly because the smell is a bit unpleasant and she usually just refuses to consume things that don't smell nice xD
52:43 <hsn> got some good medical expensis last month
53:04 <Ysjoelfir> oha, I hope everything is good?
53:19 <hsn> yeah .. wife made a surgery
57:22 <electrohead> is rust_collector back yet?
57:31 <Ysjoelfir> back from what?
57:38 <electrohead> his ban
57:47 <Ysjoelfir> huh, what did he do?
58:04 <Ysjoelfir> must have missed that
58:08 <electrohead> spammed the channel with ascii art, and a lot of it
58:12 <electrohead> it was last night
58:14 <Ysjoelfir> lol
58:26 <Ysjoelfir> ascii art is great, I love it
58:37 <T3sl4> oh no, i missed something great
58:41 <electrohead> it is, but it kept going and going, and got annoying pretty quick, lol
59:22 <Ysjoelfir> like a ctrl + a, ctrl + v + return error? or on purpose? :D
59:38 <hsn> lol
59:42 <electrohead> picture courtesy of MRiddickW - https://imgur.com/t7AHqgE
00:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol
00:36 <Ysjoelfir> if its flood protection I assume it is time limited?
00:39 <hsn> hahaha
00:56 <T3sl4> ah, https://imgur.com/t7AHqgE
01:04 <hsn> that should be .. promote .. not ban
01:05 <T3sl4> oh, yes that ^^
01:44 <hsn> i kept seeing that dicckbutt as a lovely duck ..
01:49 <electrohead> lol
01:52 <hsn> until T3sl4 destroyed it in my mind
02:02 <hsn> 2 days ago i think on his pcb logo
12:52 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/dhgWtzO.mp4
13:16 <hsn> dcat/dt
13:57 Join: Nothing\ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
14:02 <Nothing\> that was weird
14:16 <Ysjoelfir> ok
15:05 <Nothing\> i just got an error from hexchat saying some operation at an incredibly low memory address, 0x0000000000000016 or something like that couldn't be read and the program had to be shut down
15:52 <Nothing\> i dunno if they still use pages to refer to parts of memory, but you'd think the first page would be the most important one
15:52 <K> pointer went wrong
15:53 <hsn> ah
16:04 <hsn> my bufferoverflow exploitation didnt go well
16:05 <Nothing\> K, ah that might be it
16:13 <Nothing\> lol
16:16 <hsn> :P
16:38 <Nothing\> overflows are great for glitching out video games
17:40 <hsn> or a hexchat
18:21 <Nothing\> heh i'm gonna do an experiment today where i use an audio FFT program to do an FFT of my jingling some keys. then remove a key and repeat and see if i can notice a discernible difference and use it to figure out which keys are on the keychain
18:26 * Ysjoelfir ad öowad föbna oö351 0x213 madksl ö
18:28 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
18:34 <Nothing\> cuz each key should have its own set of harmonics
18:40 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
18:46 <Ampera> how do Nothing\
18:47 <Nothing\> hey how's it going?
19:02 <Nothing\> i do pretty well
19:07 <Nothing\> just got up
19:25 <Nothing\> actually i realized i haven't even had my methadone yet, so this is like the most sober i've been in some time
19:25 <Ampera> I'm good, I managed to wake up at 02:00 today, which I hope to continue doing
19:35 <T3sl4> Nothing\: usually pointers are in the middle, like 0x08000xxxx or something these days, so it's likely dereferencing some bullshit number accidentally
19:40 <Nothing\> just had an incredibibly cathartic poop that i really need
20:04 <T3sl4> as mark twain said, defecation is perhaps the most underrated pleasure
20:09 <Ampera> I'm also enjoying my ultrawide, which is really great for work
20:25 <Ampera> I have it setup for picture-by-picture, so left half is one input and right half is the other
20:25 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeah no shit, people are always baffled that i watch lectures for fun
20:40 <Ampera> and I have my work laptop hooked up, with one input going to the right half of the monitor, and the other going to a capture card
20:49 <Ampera> so I can switch the left side of the monitor with just an alt+tab
20:55 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
21:11 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i almost jizzed myself when i saw my cousin's collection of textbooks from her biochem PhD. My aunt thought I was nuts when I excitedly asked if I could have them.
21:23 <T3sl4> heh
21:30 <Ampera> Nothing\, well you /are/ nuts
21:33 <Nothing\> i still need to email my cousin and ask if she wants anything in return
21:53 <Nothing\> cuz i mean, that's a LOT of money worth of books
22:00 <T3sl4> doubtful, they have a resale value of about $4
22:01 <Nothing\> but at the same time, they're probably useless to her
22:07 <Nothing\> yeah exactly
22:21 <Nothing\> it's a shame
22:24 <Nothing\> like a wedding dress
22:28 <T3sl4> not like it isn't polite to ask, ofc :)
22:37 <Nothing\> you pay hundreds of dollars for it, use it once and then never think about it again
22:42 <hsn> T3sl4, related to pointers .. isnt OS allready gives fake addresses .. and does its own mapping anyway ? or u talking about "within the program it self" ?
23:10 <T3sl4> hsn: it does, and 64b pointers happen to be centered around something or other, for whatever reason
23:25 <T3sl4> at least, that i've seen from what hacking vids i've watched :P
23:30 <Nothing\> our generation's glass slipper, as what's his face said of wedding dresses through marla singer
23:38 <Nothing\> damn i can't remember his name
23:40 <K> stack is randomized yea, dunno about program code, it is tricky
23:44 <Nothing\> you know who i mean
23:52 <Nothing\> that guy, he always wore a shirt
24:10 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PaxLSxQblM
24:12 <Nothing\> chuck palahniuk
24:19 <Nothing\> that's it
24:55 <Nothing\> for some reason thinking of him makes me wanna read slaughterhouse five
25:19 <Nothing\> that book was so amazing but i only ever read it properly once
25:45 <Ampera> It was alright, but I wasn't blown away by it
25:56 <Nothing\> the first time i read it, i listened to the audiobook and my mp3 player played the chapters all out of order. but i had no idea because of how the book is.
26:12 <Nothing\> Ampera, you ever read any philip k dick?
26:21 <Nothing\> he's hands down my favorite sci-fi author
26:49 <Ampera> no I haven't sucked any philip k dick
26:51 <Ampera> er, read
26:55 <Nothing\> VALIS is a really great book by him, but it's a super heavy read.
26:55 <Ampera> my bad
27:05 <Nothing\> UBIK is better if you're looking for something lighter
27:15 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635631712113786890/768463293944823829/20201021_091818.jpg
27:17 <Nothing\> there's actually an audiobook of UBIK on YouTube i've been going through
27:37 <Nothing\> Ampera, aww almost looks like my kitty
27:47 <Ampera> I know, you've told me
27:47 <Nothing\> except mine has a white bikini and white on her chin
27:48 <Ampera> multiple times
28:12 <Nothing\> the vet literally wrote her pattern down as "white bikini"
28:43 <Nothing\> lemme ask you something
28:50 <Nothing\> do your cats often sleep on their backs?
28:53 <hsn> Ampera, over pixelated
28:54 <hsn> :D
29:08 <Ampera> Nothing\, not really
29:12 <Nothing\> cuz mine almost always sleep on their backs
29:13 <Ampera> but they can sleep in a variety of ways
29:20 <Nothing\> and smokey almost always has to use a pillow
29:33 <Nothing\> like he'll rest his head on something cushy and soft when he sleeps
29:44 <Nothing\> or cuddle a shirt or something
30:18 <Nothing\> he's a weird cat, though
31:31 <Nothing\> i watched some michael jackson videos the other day, beat it, and him doing the moon walk for the first time to billie jean
31:41 <Nothing\> it's a shame he went all crazy, he was pretty talented
32:14 <Nothing\> i was never a huge fan, but just seeing that i can see he was a hell of a musician back in the days when he was black
33:04 <Nothing\> apparently he owned the rights to a bunch of beatles songs, too
33:14 Join: arch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
33:39 <Nothing\> lol paul mccartney wanted to play them for something or another, so he asked michael if he could do it without having to pay for the rights to play his own song
33:47 <Nothing\> michael told him to go to hell and pay him
33:50 <Nothing\> lol
34:47 <Nothing\> oh yeha Ampera i'm getting 2-3 crowns done today
35:05 <Nothing\> i need 4 total, for a total cost of $4,000
35:32 <Ampera> nice
35:36 <Nothing\> but he said i should get 2 pairs of implants put in and a bridge, which would set me back about $40-50k
35:40 <coppice> pricey little things, ain't they?
35:45 <Nothing\> which there's no fucking way i can afford that
35:51 <Ampera> I was just about to ask if your insurance was going to cover it, but is dental universal?
35:53 <Ampera> sounds like it isn't
36:03 <Nothing\> coppice, yeah i'm grateful for the coverage i HAVE got but it's not very good coverage
36:25 <Nothing\> i lost my molars cuz they don't cover root canals on molars, since they have 3 to 4 roots per tooth instead of just 1
36:49 <Nothing\> and i didn't have the money for it at the time so i just told em to pull them
37:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, i get it through disability so this doesn't cover as much
37:32 <Nothing\> the insurance you get through welfare is even worse, basically nothing is covered except emergencies
37:54 <coppice> Once you've seen the price Nobel charges for implants, you realise why they stopped making explosives :)
37:57 <Nothing\> and even then it's just the bare minimum, like an extraction in lieu of a root canal on any tooth
38:17 <Nothing\> coppice, they just had the nobel prize recently
38:37 <Nothing\> the guys who made crispr got chemistry
38:52 <Nothing\> and roger penrose and his team got physics
39:27 <coppice> the crispr one is interesting. people usually wait decades between their key work and their nobel prize
39:40 <Nothing\> yeah i thought that was awfully fast
39:55 <Nothing\> but that time is usually for the technology to prove itself as being groundbreaking
40:03 <Ampera> Nothing\, so dental isn't universal?
40:08 <Nothing\> i think it's safe to say crispr's already proved itself
40:13 <Nothing\> Ampera, not by a long shot
40:18 <Ampera> rip
40:21 <coppice> and some of the most world changing ones only get 1/2 a prize
40:39 <Nothing\> Ampera, by universal do you mean everybody has full coverage, or that all coverage is full?
40:47 <Nothing\> in any case, neither case is the case
41:26 <Nothing\> coppice, it's interesting that it's mostly old men who win the nobel prize
41:47 <Nothing\> still a real bias towards women in science, it seems
41:53 <coppice> who do you expect to win?
42:04 <Nothing\> er
42:11 <Nothing\> madam curie?
42:14 <Nothing\> lol
42:37 <coppice> most of the prizes are still going to work done 40 years ago. There aren't many remarkable things from that time which are associated with women
43:05 <Ampera> Nothing\, everyone has full coverage
43:09 <Nothing\> coppice, that and i'd imagine it probably takes a few decades of work to do something worthy of a nobel prize
43:18 <Ampera> as was I presumed was the case for Canadian citizens and residents for normal healthcare
43:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, ah no, we only have coverage for medical, no prescription or dental
43:37 <Ampera> No prescription either
43:43 <Ampera> that's a big pisser
43:45 <Nothing\> and even medical, you can get better coverage
43:49 <Ampera> so presumably people still have insurance
44:23 <Nothing\> so like, under standard coverage under OHIP which is the health insurance program in ontario, you end up in a public ward with several other people
44:36 <Nothing\> wheras with private insurance you can get your own room with a tv
44:40 <Nothing\> that sorta stuff
45:11 <Ampera> hahaha
45:41 <Nothing\> so yeah, even though everybody has health insurance by default here, you can still buy your own, better health insurance
45:50 <Nothing\> which, i think it's great you have that option
46:12 <Nothing\> very libertarian of them, yet socialist at the same time somehow
46:56 <Nothing\> it is stupid though imo that they don't cover drugs or dental
47:46 <Nothing\> cuz without proper medication or dental care, you can have physical health problems that will cost OHIP a lot more money in the long run than if they'd have just nipped it in the bud in and given you the initial treatment you need instead of letting it get out of hand
52:48 <Nothing\> ugh that sucs
53:07 <Nothing\> my appointment isn't for another 5 hours, i thought it was at 3pm
53:24 <Ampera> well 3PM is 4 hours
53:28 <Ampera> so it's 4PM?
53:34 <Nothing\> yeah
53:40 <Ampera> right
53:55 <Nothing\> i've been putting off taking my methadone until i take my other meds for the appointment
54:10 <Nothing\> so it all peaks at roughly the same time, though it never does
54:47 <Nothing\> but i didn't wanna take the meds until 3-4 hours before the appointment cuz i don't want them to start wearing off halfway through or something
55:09 <Nothing\> or maybe i'm just being neurotic
00:29 <Nothing\> lol the cats are loving watching the leaves blowing around and the animals gathering stuff for the winter
00:43 <Nothing\> i can't wait for them to see their first snowfall. it's gonna drive them nuts
06:33 <Nothing\> oh shit
06:43 <Nothing\> i think i have a pill stuck in my sinuses roflmao
07:13 <Nothing\> i was taking them and gagged and the juice came out my nose, along with a pill that got stuck on the journey out
08:06 <Nothing\> k i snorted it back and almost yacked trying to swallow it again lol
12:47 Join: Dude ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
13:30 <Nothing\> Dude, all you need is another guy in here called Man
14:03 <Nothing\> you know, cuz that sam whatshisface guy's character wound up being called The Man, or just Man, i forget
14:13 <Ampera> That's not just any Dude, I think that's /The/Dude
14:40 <Nothing\> holy shit
14:50 <Nothing\> i didn't know tara reid was bunny lebowski
14:59 <Nothing\> never recognized her that young
15:00 <Ampera> Dude, how's the curfew and lockdown business going?
15:44 <Nothing\> SAM ELLIOT!
15:48 <Nothing\> that's the guy's name
15:52 <Nothing\> who played the man
16:23 <Nothing\> i almost wanna watch that movie again, even though i just watched it a few weeks ago
16:43 <Nothing\> oooh actually, i should watch dr strangelove
16:47 <Nothing\> and so should you Ampera
17:07 <Nothing\> b&w films aren't all taht bad, honestly you don't even notice it after 5 minutes or so
17:20 <Nothing\> it's like letterbox, though i doubt you had to deal with that growing up
17:58 <Nothing\> back in the day before widescreen TVs, if you got a widescreen movie you'd get black bars cutting off the top and bottom of the screen so the aspect ratio's right
18:25 <Nothing\> though now that i think of it, i've seen that plenty on other videos on the computer, not just movies from olden times
22:46 Nick: Dude is now known as TheDude
22:50 <TheDude> heya
22:58 <TheDude> apologies for the delay
23:18 <TheDude> this thing logs in when I wake my pc, so it makes it seem as if I actively came into the channel
23:32 <TheDude> when in reality, I likely paid no attention to IRC
23:48 <TheDude> Ampera, not great, not terrible
23:59 <TheDude> nothing special to talk about, really
24:45 <Ampera> The governor declared a warning, asking people not to go to or from Connecticut or New Jersey into NY unless it's essential travel
25:03 <Ampera> It's not a quarantine ban, but it's one of the most serious things he's said to do
25:11 <Ampera> unless he's already said so in the past, and I've forgotten
25:21 <Ampera> but CT and NJ are incredibly close to NY in terms of population and commerce
25:21 <Nothing\> TheDude, oh yeah i've had that happen
25:29 <Nothing\> i wake my PC and hexchat logs me back in here
25:38 <Ampera> It's why I maintain a ZNC, so I'm on 24/7
25:46 <TheDude> yeah, I use hexchat as well
26:04 <TheDude> I use the afternet-provided ZNC on there
26:11 Join: Polesch ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
26:19 <TheDude> does autistnet have something similar?
26:23 <MRiddickW> Lol, same here. Add to that that my computer randomly wakes up throughout the night or the connection resets and logs me out and back in.
26:46 <TheDude> speaking of lockdowns and whatnot
27:03 <TheDude> because apparently some people didn't put on masks in crowded outdoor places
27:18 <TheDude> they now imposed a law that requires people to wear masks outside at all times
27:42 <TheDude> even if you're alone in street, with no people anywhere in sight
27:45 <TheDude> fucking retarded
28:09 <Nothing\> TheDude, what i think is stupid is how the ended the lockdown here way too early, plus sending the kids back to school
28:30 <Nothing\> now surprise surprise, we have a "second wave" and record breaking numbers of people being infected
28:39 <Nothing\> and they're looking at reinstating a lockdown
28:46 <Nothing\> and taking the kids out of school again
29:17 <coppice> Nothing\: are you getting many deaths or ICU cases? it seems the second wave in most places is a lot less lethal, as the weak have already been culled
29:19 <Nothing\> like NO SHIT YA FUCKTARDS I COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT 3 MONTHS AGO AND I DON'T HAVE A FANCY DEGREE
29:24 <Nothing\> fucking idiots
29:38 <Nothing\> coppice, not really actually
29:48 <Nothing\> lemme see what the current figures are
30:29 <Nothing\> the numbers have been pretty modest, though they only ever seem to report the number of cases in ontario and not canada as a whole for some reason
30:49 <TheDude> we're currently in the process of pushing for new highs
30:55 <Nothing\> 9,800 deaths in canada total
31:07 <TheDude> 1503 new cases on tuesday
31:19 <Nothing\> 204k cases total
31:31 <TheDude> or 0.075% of the slovenian population
31:32 <TheDude> in a day
31:41 <Nothing\> wow
31:47 <Nothing\> 40.9 million cases worldwide
31:54 <Nothing\> not active, total
32:05 <TheDude> aye
32:24 <Nothing\> i remember when this started, i figured it was just gonna be another SARS or bird flu and only a few hundred people will get it
32:29 <coppice> if you can believe the stats. the more I learn about how various countries measure these things, the more bogus they look
32:43 <Nothing\> and as i was telling somebody this he was like "dude there are already like 80,000 cases"
32:54 <Nothing\> i didn't believe him so i had to go home and look it up
33:24 <Nothing\> coppice, the stats only reflect the number of cases confirmed through testing though
33:33 <Nothing\> no testing, or flawed testing means skewed figures
33:42 <Nothing\> like what poland tried to do
34:00 <Nothing\> they initially tried not testing people so they wouldn't have any confirmed cases
34:19 <coppice> Nothing\: SARS was as horrible as SARS2, but a lot less easy to spread. all the horrible effects you see for SARS2 were exactly the same with SARS. It has taken western countries a lot tiem to wake up to the reality that SARS2 was likely to be just like SARS. In Asian countries they assumed it from day one
34:24 <Nothing\> or so i heard, you never know with shit like this
35:34 <Nothing\> all i know is according to trump, covid 19 came from a guy screwing a bat
35:41 <Nothing\> like aids did with monkeys
36:56 <TheDude> Trump knows biomedicine
37:11 <TheDude> he studied it, he knows it almost better than anyone
38:01 <coppice> However bad Trump is, he has been more on the ball about this than most of our brain dead leaders
39:14 <Ampera> I think Trump is more of an RNG than a president. His successes and failures seem to be just because he happened to, not because he planned a single thing he's ever done.
40:01 <TheDude> well, it's not like he gets to call any shots, really
40:24 <Ampera> That being said, as far as presidents have gone, I don't think he's the worst. He's done some good things, some dumb things, in general is expired produce, but it's fine.
40:26 <TheDude> the people that are lining his pockets are the one making the decisions
40:31 <TheDude> ones*
40:41 <Ampera> The president doesn't make decisions.
40:56 <Ampera> He just wants to really hard and takes credit for when good things happens
41:05 <Ampera> and then shoves the blame when bad things happen
41:31 <coppice> while erratic, I think Trump has been a net positive. Perhaps by luck. Perhaps by judgement. The previous few presidents were all net negatives
42:30 <Ampera> I wasn't into politics for most of his term, but Obama's legacy seems to have been a poorly thought through healthcare bill, and continuing on where Bush Jr. left off
42:40 <coppice> People wanted to break that cycle that "It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government gets in", and to some extent he has broken that
43:06 <Ampera> Aye, I think that's why people voted for him, he was about as not-establishment as you can possibly get
43:15 <Ampera> and the endless hilarity of establishment people losing their minds over that
43:20 <coppice> WAR! What is it good for? Big donations from the military industrial complex!
43:48 <Ampera> War is big business, it's not about killing a lot of people, it's about killing a few people really really expensively.
45:21 <coppice> "I don't want to see all these people die, but the tax payers won't give me all their money if I don't kill them"
45:23 <Nothing\> yeah but without war we wouldn't have developed things like nukes, antibiotics, modern medicine, computers etc at least not as fast as we did
45:34 <TheDude> also about obliterating another nations sovereignty and putting people in place that you can manipulate
45:40 <TheDude> nation's
45:42 <TheDude> ***
45:50 <Nothing\> i know a lot of those have their roots before WWII but WWII really spurred on the development of them
45:50 * TheDude is illiterate today, apparently
45:51 <Ampera> TheDude, the US never needed to fight a war for that.
45:54 <Nothing\> not to mention rockets
45:56 <Ampera> Look at South America.
46:10 <Nothing\> we'd have never even gone to the moon if not for the nazis
46:24 <Nothing\> since von braun designed the saturn v
46:41 <TheDude> yeah, but you need to wait for a country to slowly fuck itself over to death
47:00 <Nothing\> like north korea?
47:01 <TheDude> sending a bunch of UAVs is quicker
47:12 <coppice> Nothing\: how did antibiotics get in your list? Penicillin was discovered in peace time
47:18 <Ampera> Between the several dozen million people who died from WW1 to the Vietnam War, or the moon landing and some computer tech, I'd take those millions of people
47:21 <MRiddickW> I don't think you need to start NASA to invent Tang and Velcro.
47:22 <TheDude> I was talking about venezuela specifically, but okay
47:30 <Ampera> but what do I know, I'm not a philosopher.
47:42 <coppice> Velcro was nothing to do with NASA
47:45 <Nothing\> coppice, was it? i always thought it was developed to treat syphillis infections and such in soldiers
47:52 <Nothing\> maybe i'm confusing myself here
48:59 <Nothing\> actually i believe hearing that air conditioning was originally developed to keep important parts of ships from overheating
49:07 <Nothing\> had nothing to do with comfort
49:09 <coppice> Nothing\: It wasn't developed. it was discovered, by a guy called Ambrose Fleming, who was a sloppy lab guy who didn't clean his petrie dishes properly, but was observant enough to notice when a mould was wiping out the uncleaned dishes
49:25 <Nothing\> yup i know the story
50:12 <coppice> people don't give enough credit to how much WW2 drove the plastic industry
50:27 <Nothing\> it's funny how many discoveries were made by sloppy scientists
50:50 <coppice> discovery is a matter of being observant, not tidy
50:56 <Nothing\> like, i forget what sweetener it was but i remember hearing how the guy discovered it cuz after working with it, he licked his fingers and noticed they were sweet
51:16 <Nothing\> or albert hoffman absorbing LSD into his skin while he was working with it and accidentally tripping on it
51:48 <Nothing\> coppice, one part observation, one part serendipity. i say.
52:16 <Nothing\> plus the skills to make sense of your observations
52:17 <coppice> well, it is contingent on something interesting passing by
52:53 <Nothing\> apparently a lot of antibiotics are discovered in mud and really dirty places
53:20 <coppice> lots of people are pretty good at working through stuff to make sense of an observation. its much rarer to find someone seriously observant that something interesting is there
53:36 <Nothing\> cuz the microbes living there produce them to protect themselves from the various bacteria, usually anaerobic that live in such environments
55:46 <coppice> most people are real arseholes to the observant
56:13 <Nothing\> it's because the observant often observe things that people are in denial about
56:28 <Nothing\> or don't want to/aren't ready to hear
56:46 <coppice> that's one issue. another is they know they'll never develop that quality themselves, and it pisses them off
57:12 <Nothing\> and i dunno about you, but i find being observant makes me miserable personally cuz feel like i notice more shitty stuff than regular people do
57:32 <Nothing\> either that or i'm bothered more by said shitty stuff than regular people and they still notice it
58:10 <Nothing\> coppice, i believe anyone can be "smart" in that i've taughte a 5 year quantum mechanics before
58:44 <Ampera> I notice things, but live in a state of careless nihilism that renders me almost completely indifferent
58:52 <Ampera> a notion I only escape from whenever I'm bored
59:12 <Nothing\> but for some reason, presumably school, people are taught to believe that stuff like that is beyond their comprehension so they seem to develop a complex revolving around a lack of self confidence in their intelligence and their ability to learn
00:30 <Nothing\> “Muad'Dib learned rapidly because his first training was in how to learn. And the first lesson of all was the basic trust that he could learn. It's shocking to find how many people do not believe they can learn, and how many more believe learning to be difficult. Muad'Dib knew that every experience carries its lesson.”
01:13 <Nothing\> -Frank Herbert (obviously)
01:31 <Nothing\> that was always one of my favourite quotes because it's so true
02:04 <Nothing\> if we started off by teaching children how to learn and that they're fully capable of learning on their own, they would fare so much better
03:12 <Nothing\> in fact that reminds me of a Montessori my friend's kids were going to. i was reading about them and the basic jist of it is they let the kids choose what they learn about and let the kids learn about it in their own way at their own pace, giving them guidance along the way as needed.
03:21 <Nothing\> which is exactly how i think public schools should do it
04:27 <Nothing\> but let's face it, that's unrealistic for a class of 30. plus with the variation in how each child learns and how much 1 on 1 time it would take for a teacher to properly get to know a child and their learning style i just don't think it's realistic to expect that from public schools
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33:02 <Nothing\> gah
33:11 <Nothing\> tara reid has NOT aged gracefully
33:13 <Nothing\> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Tara_Reid_July_14%2C_2014_%28cropped%29.jpg
33:22 <Nothing\> especially considering she isn't even that old
34:49 <coppice> that hair looks soooo fake
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40:11 <Nothing\> everything about her looks fake
40:26 <Nothing\> but the fake tan can at least be explained by her being from jersey
40:54 <Nothing\> le sigh
41:10 <Nothing\> i wanna play a video game but nothing's catching my fancy for some reason
41:38 <Nothing\> hell, back when i was a kid, i woulda given my left nut for even 1% of the games i have today
41:57 <Nothing\> yet i can't find one to hold my attention more than a few minutes now
58:43 <Ampera> Nothing\, I recently started replaying Doom 2016
03:15 <hsn> This is funny .. my phone send me notification everytime it blocks sms msg .. but u did notify which is same thing as if u didnt block ?!
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21:06 <Nothing\> Ampera, right on. i played that briefly
21:21 <Nothing\> wasn't my thing. i kept getting lost
21:55 <Nothing\> like those moments of "where the hell am i supposed to go and where am i?" like a newb
22:07 <Nothing\> i'm not a big fan of modern 3d games
22:20 <Nothing\> but from what i did play it was alright i guess
23:02 <Nothing\> reminds me. I'm trying to clear up HD space and I could probably get rid of that game since I don't play it, really.
23:36 <Nothing\> i've been looking for a game to play lately, but to no avail
24:15 <Nothing\> i bought new super mario bros wii u for my switch. but it's just your standard 2d mario game so while it's fun for short bursts of gaming. it's nothing special.
25:06 <Nothing\> wound up being on sale at walmart and i couldn't justify paying the full $80 price for a game like that. so I figured $50 after the sale price was a bit more reasonable.
25:49 <Nothing\> but i've come across at least half a dozen A titles for $80 each I'd like to get that are either out now, or coming out soon.
26:02 <Nothing\> a few which i HAVE to get. like a sequel to hyrule warriors.
26:40 <Nothing\> which i haven't even come close to finishing. the original game has so much content in it. it'd take hundreds of hours just to put a dent in it
27:05 <Nothing\> maybe i should play that
28:15 <Nothing\> next to LoZ Breath of the Wild. I don't think i put as much time into a game as I did into hyrule warriors
28:47 <Nothing\> especially considering i already put a couple hundred hours into the 3DS port before buying it on the switch.
29:41 <Nothing\> that's one thing i hate. i have so many double copies of the same game cuz i'd buy one copy on one console and another copy on a superior console, or a console where they're adding more content to the game.
30:09 <Nothing\> i have 2 copies of terraria for the PC, one for the switch and one for my PS3, for example
30:32 <Nothing\> all legit copies
32:59 <Nothing\> or diablo 3 i have copies for the ps3 and the switch cuz they stopped adding content to the PS3 version
34:11 <Nothing\> this coming from a man who didn't buy a legit game from 1998 through to 2018
02:53 <hsn> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/20/deep-fake-nudes/
25:46 <Ysjoelfir> what, rusticles is still not debanned? :D
29:52 <hsn> lets post dicks Ysjoelfir as sort of .. support rusty
30:04 <hsn> "Free RUSTY" dicks
30:52 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
30:54 <Ysjoelfir> ok, I begin
30:58 <Ysjoelfir> .|.
32:30 <Ysjoelfir> but to be serious: how can we unban rusticles? slipping into the flood control is not realy something you should be permanently banned for, right? :D
34:03 <hsn> 8===D
34:47 <hsn> let me tell u .. in kuwait .. 2 days ago .. some journalist get banned from the country
34:58 <hsn> im not sure what she did .. but probably some sex video hahaa
35:45 <hsn> yes .. !! idk how it even happened
36:08 <hsn> robert on altium youtube https://youtu.be/zUMeNzgPoVw
37:21 <Nothing\> ah it's almost time
37:27 <Nothing\> to get my dental crowns
37:45 <Nothing\> feeling more drugged to the gills than nervous
38:03 <Nothing\> well, maybe not to my gills, but enough to cut through any anxiety
39:25 <Nothing\> god bless whomever invented benzos and/or barbiturates
40:21 <Nothing\> though they still had bromed salts like sodium bromide that they used as sedatives before barbiturates. but i get the sense they weren't terribly effective
40:40 <Nothing\> not to mention, they're fairly toxic and are eliminated from the body very slowly
45:39 <Ysjoelfir> Found this knive. I have to say I love that cute thing. https://www.amazon.de/Taschenmesser-Klappmesser-Damaststahl-Damastmesser-Ledertasche/dp/B0774JZ67M I guess I'll buy that
46:12 <Nothing\> aw it is like a wee baby knife
46:28 <Nothing\> unfortunately i'm prohibited from owning weapons until feb of 2022
46:59 <Nothing\> frankly i'd like to get osething for self defense in the house
47:15 <Nothing\> a sword, machette, something like that
47:57 <Nothing\> you break into somebody's home and they're wielding a machete while screaming like a maniac, you won't want any part of that
48:09 <coppice> use a nuke
48:37 <Nothing\> lol like the little boy on fallout
49:05 <coppice> it gets the job done, and doesn't require high skill levels to use
49:09 <Nothing\> a little nuke launched by a hand wielded launcher. but 90% of the time it'd end up killing you in the blast
49:55 <Nothing\> actulaly apparently the plane that dropped the tsar bomba barely escaped
50:42 <Nothing\> if the bomb was the full 100MT yield intsead of 50 it woulda blowon the plane out of the sky
50:53 <coppice> I've wielded a machete in a forest. its too much hard work. i want some nuclear, or at the very minimum chemical, assistance
51:33 <Nothing\> yeah i used to clear shrubs from the back of my dad's lot when he had a furniture store using a machite
51:53 <Nothing\> he also used to pay me 5c a head for flies
52:19 <Nothing\> with a fly swatter, not machete lol
52:31 <Nothing\> imagine decapitating a fly with a machete
52:59 <coppice> we have a UV fly killer. I like to have assistance in my work
53:41 <Nothing\> yeah i have a UV flashlight with severnal dozen LEDs in it and when they get in, they're attracted to it so strongly
53:51 <Nothing\> makes it easy to get them to come to you
54:18 <Nothing\> how's a UV fly killer work? does it fry it with UVC or something?
54:23 <coppice> I like to hear the sound of them frying on the electrodes
54:44 <Nothing\> or just one of those ones that attracts them with UV and then electrocutes them
54:58 <coppice> this one is a small shop model. it uses UV to attract them, and high voltage electrodes to fry them
55:23 <coppice> you can't use UVC in a room. it needs to be completely screened from people
56:43 <Nothing\> yeah i noticed at the pizza place i go to, they have a UVC lamp in perfect view of everyone in the shop. Made me wonder how much danger it put them in
56:53 <Nothing\> even for something like cataracts
57:29 <coppice> I doubt its UVC. fly killers use UVA for attraction
57:35 <Nothing\> there've actually been a few places where the UVC lamp is perfectly visible to people in the room
57:52 <Nothing\> no these are air purifiers, not for bugs
59:01 <Nothing\> right on, my mom said she'd lend me money to buy a new gamepad till i get paid
59:22 <Nothing\> cuz they've got logitech F310s on sale on amazon for $25 atm
59:32 <Ampera> took a break to play on the bass a bit
59:37 <Nothing\> heh i remember when i paid $40 for mine
59:39 <Ampera> and I figured out how to play a bit of a new song
59:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, nice
00:12 <Nothing\> how good are you at ho/po's?
00:34 <Ampera> ho/po's?
00:42 <Nothing\> hammer on/pull offs
00:48 <hsn> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lilyzhangpcbhero_cpu-electronictechnology-ugcPost-6722036549334265856-VKNc
00:52 <Ampera> I don't know what those are
01:02 <Ampera> does that tell you anything?
01:03 <hsn> Linkedin fine Ampera ?
01:12 <Ampera> I hate all social media, hsn
01:20 <hsn> :$
01:32 <hsn> Irc is what ?
01:35 <Ampera> chat protocol
02:01 <Nothing\> hammer on is where when you play a note by slamming your finger hard enough against the fretboard to make a sound without plucking the string
02:02 <hsn> I share https then
02:30 <Nothing\> and a pull off is where you sorta of pluck the string as you're pulling your finger off so it makes noise without having to pluck it
03:13 <Nothing\> they're more for guitars, but i believe they're used with bass from time to time
04:02 <Ampera> Hammer on I've done, but don't tend to use while playing as it's messy
04:16 <Nothing\> or another technique to look into, Ampera. Again, not sure if it's purely for guitaro or not but tremolo picking is a good skill to learn
04:17 <Ampera> I don't tend to consciously pull off, I really do things however I feel like it
04:33 <Ampera> that's why I like playing guitar, I don't have to learn all sorts of terminology, techniques, notes, whatever
04:33 <coppice> Nothing\: its impressive to see someone play long passages entirely with their left hand, while their right hand is waving to the crowd
04:36 <Ampera> I just get to play
05:27 <Nothing\> here Ampera
05:29 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI&ab_channel=Muse
05:42 <Nothing\> the intro to this song shows what tremolo sounds like pretty good
05:58 <Nothing\> once the song actually starts
06:06 <Ampera> yeah I've heard the song before
06:33 <Ampera> Nothing\, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKpsuGMeqHI
06:35 <Ampera> like this?
07:27 <Nothing\> yes, perfect example
07:31 <Nothing\> i didn't even think of that
07:45 <Ampera> I do that on occasion, and can even play Misirlou a bit
08:09 <Nothing\> the trick is to hold your pick at an angle to the trongs
08:10 <Ampera> I actually recently got .38mm Dunlop nylon picks that are extra floppy, and make it slightly easier
08:22 <Nothing\> nice
08:33 <Ampera> trongs?
08:47 <Nothing\> strings
08:48 <Nothing\> lol
08:51 <Nothing\> my bad
09:00 <Ampera> well I always hold the pick at an angle
09:15 <Nothing\> hold them at a 45 degree angle or so so there's less contact area
09:21 <Ampera> My two methods are to go back and forth, but it's hard to not hit the other string
09:32 <Ampera> if I only go in one direction and return, I can do it far more consistently, but it's harder to do physically
24:57 <Nothing\> alrighty, time to get my crowns
25:02 <Nothing\> wish me luck
25:03 <Ampera> have fun
25:07 <Nothing\> and take care, buddy
25:11 <Nothing\> much love <3
25:22 <Nothing\> oh i will have fun
25:40 <Nothing\> anywho
25:42 <Nothing\> ta ta
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28:04 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.amazon.de/United-Cutlery-Cyclone-Fahrtenmesser-Klingenlänge/dp/B06XPJBPJC/ref=sr_1_25?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=messer+geschwungen&qid=1603308327&sr=8-25
28:08 <Ysjoelfir> wth is that supposed to be
28:14 <Ysjoelfir> what would you even use that for..=
36:32 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, you ever have someone send you an earworm that haunts you for days?
36:43 <Ampera> That's for removing the notion of that song from their head and drinking it with a draw
36:49 <Ampera> *straw
37:03 <Ysjoelfir> yes
37:08 <Ysjoelfir> ah, I see
37:11 <Ysjoelfir> :D
43:09 * electrohead waves and stuff
48:18 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
48:19 <Ampera> <3
48:27 * electrohead hugs back
48:32 <Ampera> how are you do
48:40 <electrohead> I are do good, lol :P
48:50 <electrohead> I'm doing alright, supposedly so
48:51 <Ampera> ko
51:25 <Ysjoelfir> &me is slöightly drunk
51:44 * electrohead invites Ysjoelfir to the beer store
52:32 <Ysjoelfir> sorry, no public aclohl allowed in FFFM at this time
58:41 <electrohead> FFFM?
58:47 <Ysjoelfir> *ffm
58:53 <Ysjoelfir> Frankfurt on Main
59:54 <electrohead> ok
13:21 * Ysjoelfir decides to play rimworld
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04:01 <Halcyon> Morning all
08:49 * T3sl4 bowls Halcyon over with stir-fry
11:35 <steve30> hi
12:09 <Halcyon> Mmmm stirfry... with chilli?
12:11 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
12:19 <steve30> I'm about to make stirfry
15:19 <Halcyon> Mmm I'll nibble on some of that too Steve
15:22 <Halcyon> What kind of stir fry?
16:38 <T3sl4> red bell pepper yes
16:45 <T3sl4> don't have hot peppers rn
18:07 <Ysjoelfir> I have hot peppers in mine. though I'm making Gulasch, not stir fry
24:49 <T3sl4> nice
26:15 <Ysjoelfir> it'll stay in the pot over night (its 23:25 here right now) and will be done tomorrow morning to take to work :)
27:07 <Halcyon> BRB, rebooting
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53:28 <Halcyon> Fucking display drivers
53:30 <Halcyon> Grrr
54:32 <damian> i blame your mom
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31:41 <Halcyon> Neat
32:00 <Halcyon> I'm still trying to work out why the fuck the latest NVIDIA drivers are so shit
34:16 <damian> it's because you touch yourself at night
36:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Randi Foundation: We are very sad to say that James Randi passed away yesterday, due to age-related causes. He had an amazing life. We will miss him. Please respect Deyvi Peña’s privacy during this difficult time.
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37:44 <Nothing\> welp, i'm back from the dentist
37:55 <Nothing\> never got my crowns done :(
38:20 <Nothing\> but he prepped the teeth and i'm due back next week for the crowns. they've gotta be made in a lab
39:48 <Nothing\> he must have been using electrocautery to burn away my gums again cuz my mouth smells and tastes like burning gum tissue
40:11 <Halcyon> Nice
40:14 <damian> errgghhh getting crowns is the worst thing i can imagine in a mouth
40:19 <damian> carving down teeth like that makes me ill
40:51 <Nothing\> damian, weird, i have dental phobia and that doesn't bother me
41:07 <Nothing\> it's the root conol that bothers me
41:08 <damian> so weird it doesnt bother you!
41:27 <damian> root canal bothers me for pain, but seeing teeth before a crown and knowing what's been done ughhh
41:32 <damian> it's like nails on a chalkboard for me
41:42 <Nothing\> you know they basically use a continuity meter for root canals
42:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RIP James Randi https://t.co/W4Gv3ZQgsV
44:15 <Nothing\> they have a box that detects impedance that they hook up to a probe file and other end of the circuit is on your lip. they use the probe file to poke around and when they find soft tissue, ie the apex of the tooth, they'll keep the probe in place and x-ray it to make a note of the localtion
45:52 <Nothing\> so if the probe's just touching the inside of the canal there's no continuity, but when there isthe tooth's apex which has soft tissue, they get lower impedance
46:41 <Nothing\> it's funny cuz when i was talking to my dentist about thet i had put a video on their tv on youtube from applied science about impedance at the time.
48:18 <steve30> Halcyon, onion, red pepper, carrot, brocoli, peas, tofu and noodles
48:32 <Halcyon> Yum
48:34 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.reddit.com/r/TIHI/comments/jfbqig/thanks_i_hate_this_combination_of_images/
48:59 <Halcyon> Weird
50:02 <steve30> My Mum returned home. She was ill at work earlier. Fortunately though she works in a hospital so there was a convenient A&E department nearby.
54:11 <Nothing\> steve30, i hope she's alright
54:53 <Nothing\> for what it's weird, good vibes and prayers sent your way
55:03 <Nothing\> or her way, rather
55:14 <Nothing\> all ofr ways
56:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: NASA: TAG! We're it! Just released: new @OSIRISREx views from yesterday as our spacecraft touched the surface of asteroid Bennu for about six seconds, and used its robotic arm to attempt to collect a sample of rocks & dust: https://t.co/s4WUCt26bX #ToBennuAndBack https://t.co/dPL00ZvlxY
58:11 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: NASA: "Particles are flying all over the place. We really did kind of make a mess on the surface of this asteroid, but it's a good mess, it's the kind of mess we were hoping for." - @OSIRISREx principal investigator Dante Lauretta on the new sample collection images. #ToBennuAndBack https://t.co/ebkdkzkh0o
00:15 <T3sl4> EEVBlog: https://i.imgur.com/UROKUcj.jpg
04:28 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/Catswhoyell/comments/jffcxs/momma_cat_teaching_her_kittens_how_to_yell_for/
04:34 <steve30> Apparently she has/had a headache, an umbilical hernia, and anal bleeding.
04:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: And of course I have a most excellent related video: https://t.co/iPbvrCxwkp :Which was quoting: World of Engineering: Today is the birthday of Alfred Bernhard Nobel (21 October 1833 – 10 December 1896) who was a Swedish chemist, engineer, inventor, businessman, and philanthropist. He held 355 different patents, dynamite being the most famous. He founded the Nobel Prize. https://t.co/mJYVdYJzFT
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05:32 <steve30> kittens :D
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06:27 <T3sl4> steve30: well, that'll make an uncomfortable day
07:25 * steve30 ought to go out on the bike later
09:41 <Halcyon> Aw that's not good Steve
09:43 <Halcyon> *hugs*
13:03 <Nothing\> oh hey, who was it that was saying crowns are gross cuz they shave the tooth down to nothing?
14:08 <damian> <
15:06 <Nothing\> damian, you should see how they left my teeth
16:00 <damian> nooooooooo
19:39 * electrohead shakes it and runs
20:28 <Nothing\> damian, no no, it's just the results of the work they did on my teeth today
24:04 <Nothing\> here we go, FINALLY got a damn upload link off of my phonee
24:10 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/XkNXQB3
24:27 <Nothing\> they're gonna leave it like that until i get my crowns next wek
24:37 <T3sl4> they're that dark under the surface?
24:47 <T3sl4> i guess they really need the work huh...
24:56 <Nothing\> yup
24:56 <T3sl4> also, the gums floating there, ghostly...
25:10 <Nothing\> that's cuz they were cauterized off
26:12 <Nothing\> musta been the 3rd or 4th time they've had to do that to me. i get work thath needs done below the gumline so that's the solution if it's not too deep
27:23 <Nothing\> it's okay, there are some real nasty destistry videos on youtube
28:00 <T3sl4> the implant animation often shows up on image boards
28:16 <Nothing\> one sticks out where this guy get a cleaning where it was like they were scraping layers of stone off of his teeth instead of tartar
28:47 <Nothing\> but ironically, being encased in tater all that time preserved the teeth
29:00 <Nothing\> tartar
29:30 <Nothing\> it musta been the good kinda tartar, what's it called
29:31 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/r/interestingasfuck/mUD2Rd1
29:36 <Nothing\> differential tartar
29:39 <Nothing\> :P
30:26 <Nothing\> yeah my dentist wants me to get 4 implants
30:37 <Nothing\> but i just can't afford that
30:52 <Nothing\> plus a bridge or two
31:22 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/1uU2isM
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33:01 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Don't say I don't bring you eclectic videos. 1hr and 20min of discussion on ESD from the inventor of the pink poly ESD bag, Dan Anderson, circa 1976: https://t.co/cacKbEKixY
33:48 <Nothing\> T3sl4, neat
38:12 <Nothing\> i like little animations like that
38:27 <Nothing\> which are self explnatory
41:47 <Nothing\> actually steve-o has a way worse picture than mine
43:28 <Nothing\> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x9KrTqgv8Nc/hqdefault.jpg
43:41 <Nothing\> pretty much all of his teeth are posts like that
45:57 <T3sl4> he's done so much dumb shit it's no surprise
48:56 <electrohead> steve-o is clean nowadays, heh
49:02 <electrohead> and still does dumb shit, lol
07:21 <T3sl4> yeah, he's done an amazing turnaround
09:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! ESD Explained & Demonstrated + History of the Pink Polyethylene ESD Bag https://t.co/dVtV4u8ZaD
27:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It's a JK FLIP FLOP! https://t.co/v3k94ptq4B
30:38 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Penn Jillette: Randi was such fun to be around. Some of my greatest most love filled times. https://t.co/iLq7SMTP0G
12:53 <steve30> eCats: https://twitter.com/crt_bot/status/1302495942478688256/photo/1
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25:54 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: The Amp Hour Podcast: Inside Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin https://t.co/B02sXXhXB5
27:14 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Captain Disillusion: I'd only ever seen Randi on TV when he called me up and said he liked my (completely obscure at the time) videos. He was supernaturally charismatic, hilarious and had a way of smacking delusions right out of your head with just a few eloquent words. I'll miss him. https://t.co/0emmt1x1fh
28:34 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: ray perigo: @eevblog They pulled a 4027. Sounds better than 7473
33:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Big moon announcement. I have the leaked photo: https://t.co/2rmULNPlc5 https://t.co/wCod5Sm6HN
37:15 <damian> blergh
54:22 <Halcyon> What's up damian ?
38:21 Join: urbite ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
41:20 <urbite> I have an EEVBlog 121GW multimeter that I got with a kickstarter pledge. I'm in the USA and would like to know how I can make the temperature range stay in fahrenheit mode. When I turn it one or wake it up, it's in celcius mode. TIA.
01:07 <steve30> hi Halcyon. I've just been out on the bike
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44:39 <damian> notto mochho
44:43 <damian> just one of those days
52:31 Quit: JohnWeak ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
33:05 <Halcyon> How was it steve30 ?
36:44 <steve30> good
36:53 <steve30> I've not been out for a few days so i feel better for it
41:26 <steve30> Halcyon, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgI6m7bU0AEoOFW?format=jpg&name=large
47:30 Quit: spark_gap ([email protected]) EOF from client
54:48 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
00:12 Join: spark_gap ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
01:03 <steve30> *awesome cat
12:32 * Ampera licks Halcyon
13:01 <Halcyon> \o/
14:21 <Halcyon> I had a nap
15:12 <Ampera> Halcyon, I had a bit of a nap too
21:18 <steve30> I just put clean sheets on
26:02 <Halcyon> I love clean sheets, I need to change mine
30:19 <steve30> I just need a cosy boyfriend/catfriend to share them with now :)
30:46 <Halcyon> :P
36:15 * steve30 cuddles up to Halcyon 
36:22 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Changing hosts
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36:32 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
36:37 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
36:43 <steve30> o/
37:19 * Ysjoelfir hands steve30 half a breadroll with stinky danish cheese and a big steaming cup of black tea with milk
37:33 Quit: Polesch ([email protected]) Connection closed
38:30 <steve30> :S
38:38 <Ysjoelfir> ?
40:16 Quit: spark_gap ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
45:35 * Ampera sneezes at Ysjoelfir 
45:52 * Ysjoelfir coughs some stinky cheese residues onto Ampera
46:00 <Ampera> danke
46:06 <Ysjoelfir> Sehr gerne
46:17 * Halcyon adds more cheese flavour all over Ampera
46:39 <Ysjoelfir> dick cheese?
46:52 <Ampera> the cheese would just fall off, as it's upside down aussie cheese
46:53 <Halcyon> ;-)
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50:06 * Ampera smacks Halcyon with an iPhone 11
51:05 * Halcyon hisses
51:30 <Ysjoelfir> ew
51:35 <Halcyon> Oh gawd. I emailed Dell to get replacement keys for a server rack. This was their reply...
51:37 <Halcyon> My name is Rozaimi and thank you for contacting Dell Email Support for Australia and New Zealand.
51:37 <Halcyon> 
51:37 <Halcyon> As per checking your system details, we get to know that it is more than 5 years. Kindly be informed that Dell no longer keep parts in our warehouse for more than 5 years.
51:39 <Halcyon> 
51:40 * Ysjoelfir hands Halcyon a Huawei instead
51:41 <Halcyon> We would like to suggest you to refer to any local computer shop for replacement.
52:09 <Ysjoelfir> lol?
52:35 <Ysjoelfir> where has the time gone where you could just go to any manufacturer and ask for parts for a 20 year old thing
52:40 <Halcyon> Yes, a local computer shop it TOTALLY going to be able to help me
52:57 <Halcyon> All I'm asking for are keys.
53:07 <Ysjoelfir> yep
53:11 <Ampera> what sort of keys are they
53:13 <Halcyon> Surely they can't be that unique
53:16 <Halcyon> Dell rack keys
53:17 * steve30 suggests lock picks
53:31 <Ysjoelfir> go to a shoemaker and bring the locks, at least here in germanistan they can make a key for you
53:54 <Halcyon> I tried to get it cut, twice, and the blanks that Dell use are some real backwards kind
54:14 <Halcyon> I have one key, but it's a strange type
54:19 Quit: spark_gap ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
54:45 <Ysjoelfir> then you should take good care of that one
55:16 <Ampera> well are they a barrel lock?
55:24 <Halcyon> They are
56:25 <Halcyon> It's not a complex lock, it's just the keys don't use a standard blank
56:31 <Ysjoelfir> I hate it when they use some special unique key. like I have at my motorcycle keys. Yamaha uses a standard key blank for that one, but with a insanely long shaft. the actual key part is pretty normal, but if you use a standard key blank you can't unlock the gas tank anymore, as the key doesn't go in deep enough....
56:58 <Halcyon> Heh shaft
57:18 <T3sl4> Halcyon: shut yo' mouth
57:30 <steve30> I'm going for a shower
57:43 <Ysjoelfir> take Halcyon with you steve30
57:55 <T3sl4> it's raining over here
58:16 <Ysjoelfir> its a beautiful sunrise here
58:58 <Ampera> T3sl4, go to bed, you're up too late.
59:11 <T3sl4> i just did ._.
59:29 <Ampera> right then
00:08 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4 is in general always awake. no matter what time it is
00:37 <Ampera> that's opposite to me, I'm always asleep
01:49 <Halcyon> T3sl4 is a bat
02:06 <T3sl4> i'm a manbat
02:07 <Ampera> so /that's/ where COVID came from...
02:12 * T3sl4 licks Ampera
02:13 * Ysjoelfir sells T3sl4 to the chinese
02:18 * Ampera expires
02:47 <Halcyon> https://i.imgur.com/mJ9Q6m5.mp4
03:36 <Ampera> Halcyon, almost as annoying as my dad's political memes he gets off facebook
04:18 <Ampera> It's always annoying when people make jokes because they're mad, not because they want to laugh.
07:06 <T3sl4> there's a sub dedicated to that
07:11 <T3sl4> several, i suppose
07:20 <Ampera> sounds like pure cancer
14:45 * Halcyon licks Ampera
14:58 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera gets licked very much today oO
15:06 <Halcyon> He loves it
15:12 <Halcyon> So do I
19:20 <Ysjoelfir> erm
19:38 * Ysjoelfir uses a wet napkin and wipes that on Halcyon
19:44 <Ampera> This is the gayest shit I ever
20:13 <Ampera> in other news, chicken and mushroom stroganov leftovers are microwaving
22:40 <Halcyon> Mmmm I love Stroganoff
22:48 * hsn coffees
22:57 <Halcyon> Morning hsn
23:11 <hsn> morning Halcyon hope u best night ever
23:24 <Halcyon> We'll see :)
23:35 <Halcyon> I am experimenting with some salmon I have in the fridge
23:46 <Halcyon> I am combining it with smoked BBQ flavours to see what happens
24:06 <hsn> never forget a chilli
24:15 <Halcyon> Absolutely not. Chilli is amazing
24:52 <hsn> so u enjoy
25:21 <hsn> Halcyon, was it you that said few months ago .. about learning IDA pro or somthing ?
26:35 <steve30> Shower was nice. Now I can snuggle up in nice clean pyjamas
26:37 <Halcyon> Yup
27:12 <hsn> ok .. now i beleive Ampera .. it wasnt him :D
27:30 <Ampera> hsn freaked the fuck out when I said I never even heard of IDA pro
27:54 <Ysjoelfir> XD
27:55 <hsn> Ampera, i allready know about having memory sags
28:02 <hsn> but that was new level
28:06 <Ampera> I played some Telstar while waiting for my food to nuke
28:10 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, how can we unban rusticles?^^
28:36 <Ampera> oh great, the austnet filter got him?
28:41 <Ampera> what a load of shit
29:02 <Ysjoelfir> I think he got trapped in a flood control ban
29:07 <Ysjoelfir> not the stupid filter list
29:11 <Ampera> gg
29:21 <Ampera> so even dummer
29:33 <Ysjoelfir> yep
29:49 <Halcyon> I banned him manually but then unbanned him a few minutes later
29:56 <Halcyon> His client was doing some weird flooding thing
29:58 <Ampera> what
30:02 <Ampera> oh
30:13 <Ysjoelfir> aah, I see :D so it was manual flood control
30:38 <Ysjoelfir> should I drop him a message to try to join again when he's home?
30:43 <Ampera> oh.
30:50 <Ampera> no that was intentional of him
31:11 <Halcyon> Oh right, yeh I don't think it was having the impact he think it did, it just flooded the channel with nonsense
31:16 <Halcyon> But he should be able to join
31:21 <Ampera> no he wanted to flood it
31:26 <Ampera> he mentioned wanting to do so earlier
31:27 <Ampera> literally
31:29 <Halcyon> Oh :P
31:35 <Halcyon> Then the system works :P
31:47 <Ampera> I don't feel so bad about that one anymore
35:14 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i0cEO2UeBg
35:27 <hsn> <Halcyon> Oh right, yeh I don't think it was having the impact he think it did, it just flooded the channel with nonsense
35:32 <hsn> what u mean with non sense
35:37 <hsn> it was just a dickbut
35:37 <hsn> :D
35:48 <Halcyon> Yes but it didn't display that way on everyone's machine
35:58 <Halcyon> For example on my end, it just looks like crap
36:11 <hsn> but now u know .. it make sense
36:19 <Halcyon> Sure :)
36:37 <K> hello
36:37 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
36:37 <Halcyon> I love rusticles, ASCII art it welcome, but people complained, so I prevented it on this occasion
36:38 <hsn> :D
36:43 <Halcyon> Dammit K, every time
36:51 <Ampera> it is?
36:53 <Halcyon> Ampera, your bot is rigged, it favours K every time
37:00 Nick: hsn is now known as H
37:02 <H> hello
37:04 <Ampera> don't say that everyone's gonna start putting cowtalks in here
37:20 <Ampera> as for K, I can neither confirm nor deny
37:21 <H> lazybot, do i get more chance if my name is shorter ?
37:29 <steve30> hello K
37:34 <Halcyon> I knew it, conspiracy :P
37:42 Nick: H is now known as hsn
37:51 <hsn> wait Ampera
38:37 <hsn> Ampera say :: hsn_cowsay hello world
38:37 <EEVBlog> Hello there, hsn!
38:59 <hsn> plz
39:19 <T3sl4> hello EEVBlog
39:30 <T3sl4> hello
39:32 <hsn> no
39:34 <T3sl4> :(
39:38 <steve30> hello T3sl4
39:39 <EEVBlog> Hello there, steve30!
39:40 <hsn> say: hsn_cowsay hello <<
39:42 <steve30> yay
39:56 <steve30> hsn_cowsay hello
39:56 <hsn> .________
39:56 <hsn> < hello >
39:56 <hsn> --------
39:56 <hsn> . \ ^__^
39:56 <hsn> . \ (oo)\______
39:56 <hsn> . (__)\ )\/\
39:56 <hsn> . ||------w |
39:56 <hsn> . || ||
40:06 <hsn> i dont see
40:13 <Ysjoelfir> aww :D
40:15 <Ampera> neither do I
40:33 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/IbECTP.jpg
40:39 <hsn> i mean i dont see it
40:51 <Ampera> if that's supposed to be a cowsay I can't see it either
40:57 <hsn> lol
40:59 <hsn> pics
41:00 <hsn> ?
41:04 <K> https://imgur.com/a/lJQXfAA
41:44 <hsn> <*hsn_cowsay> I'm being unloaded!
41:49 <Halcyon> BRB
41:53 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
41:58 <hsn> Ampera, ^^ its not that bad
42:56 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/768741136851533824/2020-10-22-034121_8480x1080_scrot.png
43:01 <Ampera> sorry, had to pull scrot out of my ass
43:16 <steve30> works here
45:19 Join: Halcyon ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
46:51 * Ampera smacks Halcyon with a hardcard
47:50 <Halcyon> I have one
47:52 <Halcyon> :)
48:15 <T3sl4> Ampera, they have a surgery to fix that
48:19 <Ampera> does it work?
48:38 <Halcyon> Also Ampera, would you recommend updating to kernel 5.9.1 just yet?
48:40 <Halcyon> Or hold off?
48:41 <Ampera> the hardcard, not the surgery
49:07 <Ampera> I have no clue how manjaro does its kernel releases, if they're purely modular like arch or if they're versioned like Debian
49:19 <Halcyon> How can I tell?
49:19 <Ampera> I'm on 5.9.1, it works fine, I was also on 5.8.something and it also worked fine
49:23 <Ampera> LTS 5.4 also works fine
49:58 <Halcyon> Well I have a bunch of options, 5.8.16-2 is currently installed, but I have the option of 5.9 Real-time or 5.9.1-1 regular
50:37 <Ampera> realtime kernels are mostly useless outside if very specific need cases you'd know if you had
50:45 <Halcyon> Yeh which I don't
50:55 <Ampera> presuming that manjaro just has packaged kernels like arch, you can update to whatever you want
51:23 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_Kilometre_Array
51:34 <Ampera> 5.8 is probably going to lose support in about a month
51:55 <Halcyon> I see
52:15 <Halcyon> The main thing is the Bluetooth vulnerability which I want patched, since I do use Bluetooth
53:25 <Ampera> yeah then apparently 5.9 has the patch
53:31 <Halcyon> *nod*
54:18 <hsn> keep ur system unupdated .. and have a rest .. says hsn
54:21 <hsn> a windows user
54:22 <hsn> :D
54:25 <Ampera> it's also likely been backported to all maintained LTS versions
54:52 <Halcyon> I'm not running LTS though
55:07 <Ampera> didn't say you are, just saying you could
55:29 <Ampera> I keep both the novel kernel and the latest LTS kernel at the same time and can switch between with a reboot
55:35 <Halcyon> I'm going to have a fiddle (with this machine) and sort out this graphics thing. I'll be back later. I'll quit for now to save all the disconnect/reconnect messages
55:42 <Ampera> in the event that one kernel breaks or has an issue (happened once before, KVM would crash all Windows VMs)
55:49 <Ampera> have fun
56:05 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Connection closed
58:12 <hsn> is this correct ? https://d2r55xnwy6nx47.cloudfront.net/uploads/2020/07/Cosmic-Magnetism-graphic-1-v2.jpg
59:56 <hsn> i thought .. electron moves in sine one dimension [E-field] ... not (electron spiral) movement
01:23 <hsn> https://d2r55xnwy6nx47.cloudfront.net/uploads/2020/07/Cosmic-Magnetism-graphic-2-v3.jpg
01:27 <hsn> nero must like this
01:35 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea. thats more of a T3sl4 thing to answer :P
02:22 <T3sl4> e field accelerates, b field rotates
18:31 <hsn> T3sl4, but here .. they make it like electron rotates ?
22:08 <T3sl4> because it's b field
26:27 <hsn> so is it true ? ... inside a wire .. the electrons move like that ... ? spiral rotation ? and thats skin effect ?
29:11 <T3sl4> no
29:14 <T3sl4> they move like this https://i.imgur.com/9mFhuTv.gif
30:17 <Ysjoelfir> oh gawd, I have image preview in my IRC client and that gif is right in my peripheral field of view now until it leaves the screen after.... roughly 50 lines of chat >_>
30:28 <Ysjoelfir> thats 46 left now
30:49 <T3sl4> >:D
30:55 <Ysjoelfir> 44
32:49 <Ampera> nice, new package update broke discord on arch
33:11 <Ampera> which let me learn that there's a community package for Discord that fixes spellcheck
33:14 <Ampera> and also isn't broken
33:18 <Ampera> so I'll have that then
35:38 <Ysjoelfir> 39! \o/
35:48 <hsn> Ampera, im broken .. can u fix me ?
36:39 <K> no user replacable parts inside, send to manufacturere
36:53 <Ysjoelfir> XD
37:16 <Ampera> hsn, I cannot fix what is beyond repair
37:52 <hsn> at least stop breaking me more
37:53 <hsn> :)
37:57 <hsn> :')
38:01 * Ysjoelfir pets hsn
52:08 <T3sl4> 30 ;)
52:18 <Ysjoelfir> :P
52:29 <Ysjoelfir> I opened that in a detached screen over it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ1nr3wk_nE&list=PLA89F5B0498E6A48A
52:35 <Ysjoelfir> so its "gone" now.
52:42 <Ysjoelfir> at least as long as the playlist lasts xD
18:25 Quit: clarkos ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
06:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Tried to stump 5yo Huxley with another Indy question. "Who is working on the Ark at the end of Raiders?" He answered "the janitor" Took me a minute to realise he was actually right & my question was poorly worded and should have included the words "supposed to be"! https://t.co/Nsk3U3Saaz
20:59 <hsn> whhaaaa
21:06 <hsn> i miss rusty
21:38 <Ysjoelfir> I already wrote him. I assume he's either driving or sleeping right now as he hasn't responded yet
29:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I do not have room for this. I do not have room for this. I do not have room for this. https://t.co/zHcnrWoX8R
16:30 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Damn it. https://t.co/1gMmGvrEBN
21:08 <Ysjoelfir> still... ~5 lines to go!
24:10 <hsn> 1
24:10 <hsn> 2
24:11 <hsn> 3
24:12 <hsn> 4
24:12 <hsn> 5
24:19 <Ysjoelfir> 1.5 more!
24:22 <hsn> 0
24:25 <Ysjoelfir> yay!
24:27 <Ysjoelfir> gone
25:15 <hsn> software is lame
25:37 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
25:42 <Ysjoelfir> I much prefer doing hardware
25:52 <hsn> yeah
29:50 <Ysjoelfir> I very much enjoy watching people working with wood at the moment. right now I'm watching Uri Tuchman. take a look at this video, its very enjoyable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wS0mSzfYY
29:54 <K> hsn can't software, what a wuss.
30:06 <Ysjoelfir> we just outsource to mr. K :)
30:21 <hsn> K, weather i can or cant .. im a wuss :P
33:26 <K> heh
34:08 <K> speaking of software, here is something i did a little while ago - https://spectrumcompact.com/emulator/
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35:23 <Ysjoelfir> thats pretty cool :)
36:42 <Ysjoelfir> hah, rusty answered my message. :P
36:47 <hsn> what does it emulate
37:02 <hsn> can it emulate rusty ?
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37:11 <Ysjoelfir> well THAT was fast
37:36 <rust_collector> very efficient.
37:44 <rust_collector> mornings peoples
37:48 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, it emulates the tool they sell^^
38:01 <Ysjoelfir> good 1337 time rusty :)
38:02 <K> yeah
39:13 <rust_collector> uh, 1 d0 n07 f33l v3ry l337 70d4y
39:40 <Ysjoelfir> w|-|y n07?
40:00 <rust_collector> because I just got out of bed, and I am too old to get up this late
40:26 <Ysjoelfir> nah. you're just a bit over 12.
40:33 <rust_collector> yes, a good bit
41:00 <rust_collector> oh well. what is happening down on the continent today?
41:05 <hsn> hello rusty ::: https://snipboard.io/EkgfTS.jpg
41:05 <EEVBlog> Hello there, hsn!
41:12 <rust_collector> hey hsn
41:28 <rust_collector> hah
41:41 <hsn> its a dickbutt.js
42:02 <rust_collector> Oh no, did I break you?
42:04 <hsn> http://shaneriley.com/dickbuttjs/
42:19 <hsn> no im broken all the tiem
42:26 <rust_collector> ah, good
42:33 <hsn> good stuff K
42:34 <Ysjoelfir> all the tiem?
42:43 <hsn> thats a proof Ysjoelfir
42:55 <rust_collector> so, today, I have to cut my keyboard to pieces...
43:04 <rust_collector> to get the switches out
43:05 <Ysjoelfir> because you need a smaller one?
43:15 <K> to show dominance and assert status
43:21 <rust_collector> right
43:27 <hsn> because appearantly a big one can cause him a ban!
44:00 <hsn> the channel cant afford how fast rusty type
44:05 <hsn> :(
44:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
44:16 <rust_collector> too much internet used, I guess
44:48 <rust_collector> but no, I just want the switches. they are nice, the keyboard is junk.
45:01 <hsn> i dont like the blink period frequency in FreeRTOS .. its not accurate :)
46:06 <rust_collector> I spent yesterday looking at synth things. Now I wonder what a 1v/octave keyboard is. because I can find all the oscillators for that, but nothing about the keyboard itself
49:50 * Ysjoelfir like good old analog synths
49:56 <rust_collector> mmhmmm
50:56 <rust_collector> I really have no interest in digital things. That is ok if you want a tool, but it is not something I want to tinker with much
52:38 <rust_collector> we will see. I was working on a little toy "electric piano" sort of thing for mum, but maybe a more proper-ish synth would be better, and much more interesting
53:57 <Ysjoelfir> build a fake minikorg 700 :D
57:28 <rust_collector> One problem I have, is that I do not do music, when I look at synth parts (say on youtube) then ok, I can almost see that the "suboscillating filter capacitive line knob" makes funny effects, but I still have no idea about how to play music with one
57:53 <rust_collector> so there is that
58:04 * T3sl4 suboscillates rust_collector's knob
58:22 <Ysjoelfir> ^ pfffffffff :D
58:36 * T3sl4 sends Ysjoelfir some harmonics too
58:46 * Ysjoelfir feels harmonised
58:52 * Ampera throws some https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N3M14VJ/ at Ysjoelfir and T3sl4 
59:20 <rust_collector> that is pretty nice
59:22 <T3sl4> mmm
59:27 <Ysjoelfir> But yes, I understand your... "problem". I always think about making music or something with it, but then I stand there thinking... you have no idea about music!
59:31 * T3sl4 paints one red, slaps Ampera with it
59:54 <Ampera> T3sl4, https://www.amazon.com/MW-polar-Herring-Tomato-Sauce/dp/B07N3MTMR4
00:06 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: no time like the present to start ;)
00:08 <T3sl4> Ampera: nice
00:16 <rust_collector> Ampera, have you tried herring in sherry sauce?
00:33 <Ampera> rust_collector, no because I am not a filthy criminal
00:44 <Ampera> unless pies are involved
00:46 <Ampera> then maybe a bit
01:13 <rust_collector> there is no time like the present to start, as someone said
01:23 <Ysjoelfir> herring pies?
01:29 <Ampera> no, apple pies
01:33 <Ampera> with sherry in them
01:54 <rust_collector> sherry herring is nice.
01:58 <Ampera> never had it
02:00 <T3sl4> sherry you must be kidding
02:05 <Ampera> canned herring isn't particularly popular here
02:09 <T3sl4> eh, doesn't work without "shirley"
02:31 <Ampera> T3sl4, it works if you walk like a man.
03:21 <T3sl4> but how would i do that?
03:36 Quit: Icedream ([email protected]) Quit: A lol made me boom.
04:27 <Ampera> T3sl4, just don't think twice.
04:39 * T3sl4 thinks once
04:46 * T3sl4 thinks once more
04:53 <T3sl4> hrm, isn't working
04:56 <rust_collector> we tend to get quite a few herring in xxxx sauce variants around christmas
05:04 <Ampera> T3sl4, Tell it to the rain.
05:16 * T3sl4 ponders herring in eggnog
05:27 * T3sl4 sets fire to Ampera's rain
05:33 <rust_collector> T3sl4, will it blend?
05:40 <T3sl4> definitely
05:44 <Ampera> T3sl4, well the sun ain't gonna shine for sure.
05:45 <T3sl4> don't breathe it tho
05:58 <rust_collector> herring smoothie... yum yum
06:09 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaqcfTZgno
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06:20 <Ampera> T3sl4, wrong group
06:22 <Ampera> try again
06:41 <T3sl4> close enough ;)
06:51 <Ampera> not really
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07:33 <Ampera> C'mon T3sl4nne
08:33 <rust_collector> I still see T3sl4s name as a honda motor name.
09:24 Quit: spark_gap ([email protected]) Connection closed
09:36 <rust_collector> which does not really look anything like that, but... that is how my thinker works
10:08 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Dumpster Printer Madness https://t.co/NNKGzF9gxY
11:14 <T3sl4> luanne?
11:23 <Ampera> :/
11:33 <Ampera> at some point it'll Dawn on you.
12:25 <T3sl4> not really my brand sorry https://i.imgur.com/5dKs5kO.gif
12:54 <Ampera> I'm running out of song names for puns :/
13:53 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMcWldfg28s
14:17 <K> Dont't touch my tralalala!
15:50 * T3sl4 trolololos K
16:36 <K> rude
16:50 * Ampera touches K
16:55 * Ysjoelfir touches K's Dingdingdong
17:07 <K> >:|
17:12 <Ysjoelfir> with a pointy stick of course
17:29 <Ampera> so Ysjoelfir is touching K with his pointy stick
17:30 <Ampera> got it
17:43 * Ysjoelfir slaps Ampera with a small asteroid, rich in iron
17:44 <Ampera> hold up while I call the stupid police
18:16 * Ysjoelfir runs Ampera trough Autoconf version 2.13
18:56 <Ampera> The list of things wrong with you, Ysjoelfir, grows.
19:05 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
19:11 * Ysjoelfir rubs Ampera with a tortoise
20:01 <Ampera> I'm gonna need a bigger drive to store the list...
20:13 * Ysjoelfir rubs harder
23:14 <K> oh deary me
23:34 * Ampera throws K at Ysjoelfir and then runs away
23:46 <hsn> https://youtu.be/bU2Ef-2ZIK4 ----- How To Improve Your PCB Layout - Power Planes
23:49 <K> can you lift and throw 90 kg?
23:54 <K> impressive!
24:47 <Lord_of_nothing> hey guys
24:54 <Lord_of_nothing> i feel sssooo sleepy
25:04 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, go to bed
25:05 <Ampera> now.
25:21 <Lord_of_nothing> i am in the bed
25:26 <Ampera> go to sleep
25:29 <Ampera> right this instant
25:37 <Lord_of_nothing> yesterday i was in the hospital
25:37 <rust_collector> I did not know K was so lightweight
25:38 <Ampera> or I will be very, VERY cross
25:50 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, was it for someone else or was it for you?
26:04 * Ysjoelfir reads to Lord_of_nothing the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy, revised edition
26:09 <Ampera> rust_collector, I weigh 70kg-ish
26:11 <Lord_of_nothing> my stomach was hurting
26:14 <Ampera> EEVBlog, convert 180lbs to kg
26:19 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 180lbs to kg
26:19 <EEVBlog> The result is: 81.647 kg
26:26 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 170lbs to kg
26:26 <EEVBlog> The result is: 77.111 kg
26:30 <Ampera> between those two values
26:37 <rust_collector> heh
26:55 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog convert 117kg to lbs
26:55 <EEVBlog> The result is: 257.941 lbs
27:06 <Ysjoelfir> you are very light everyone
27:18 <rust_collector> I am at my regular 235 or so
27:30 <Ampera> eevblog convert 235kg to lbs
27:30 <EEVBlog> The result is: 518.086 lbs
27:32 <Ampera> gotcha
27:39 <Ysjoelfir> I expected that :P
28:10 <Ysjoelfir> eevblog convert 1psi to kgcm2
28:10 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
28:17 <Ysjoelfir> pff
28:22 <Ysjoelfir> no pressure conversion?
28:47 <rust_collector> kgcm² maybe?
28:50 <Ampera> at some point when I am /really/ bored with work I'll add some more conversions
29:43 <Ysjoelfir> don't forget all those very VERY important units like Torr and mmHG!
35:03 <hsn> eevblog convert 1 bar to psi
35:03 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
35:14 <hsn> eevblog convert 20awg to mm
35:14 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
35:23 <hsn> eevblog version and debug
35:26 <hsn> eevblog version
35:31 <hsn> eevblog about
35:31 <EEVBlog> EEVBot, programmed by Ampera. Version 2.2
35:39 <Ysjoelfir> bar... pff. such modern SI basic units!
35:47 <Ysjoelfir> well.. kind of
35:56 <hsn> which one u like
35:59 <hsn> i like bar
36:03 <T3sl4> EEVBlog convert 10 liters per 100km to square acres
36:04 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
36:17 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, Kilopond, off course!
37:05 <hsn> eevblog convert 8==D to 4inch
37:05 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
38:07 <hsn> of course .. u need to be a dick to be able to :)
38:14 <Ysjoelfir> lol
38:15 <T3sl4> EEVBlog convert hsn to christianity
38:26 * Ysjoelfir watches EEVBlog explode
38:44 <hsn> does christianity like bombs ?
38:45 <hsn> :D
38:54 <Ysjoelfir> xD
39:01 <T3sl4> ah....erm, yes, yes it does.
39:08 <Ysjoelfir> For Odin!
39:18 * Ysjoelfir gets out his double sided axe
39:27 <coppice> hsn: religions generally like to convert or eliminate the opposition
39:35 <T3sl4> Ysjoeldrasil?
39:48 <hsn> coppice, do they .. yeah probably
39:59 <Ysjoelfir> yes. I actually thought about shaping my name a bit more in that direction, T3sl4
40:01 <hsn> religions or religous ppl ? coppice ?
40:16 <rust_collector> yes hsn
40:20 <T3sl4> you don't have to go very far in most religions' theology to realize that, according to at least two of them, all souls are going to hell
40:51 <coppice> hsn: religions mostly. they try to promote a veneer of peace which the average follower buys into
41:26 <hsn> veneer of peace = ?
41:34 <T3sl4> veneer = thin layer
41:58 <hsn> im muslim and im peaceful with u from deep inside me :D
42:23 <hsn> well just to proof u wrong because i hate u :)
42:32 <hsn> bcz im muslim
42:34 * T3sl4 hugs hsn
42:34 <coppice> many followers of every religion are, but the clerics just have a thin veneer of peace
42:42 <hsn> :D :D hugs back
42:47 <T3sl4> ha, now you have the covid
42:55 <T3sl4> fool, hugging a murican
42:56 <Ampera> I leave for 15 fucking minutes and you people start a fucking holy war
42:57 <Ampera> good lord
43:01 <hsn> no .. i had it before hugging
43:10 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtYOI8U3Cc
43:52 <hsn> T3sl4, u like to keep 10 x lambda distance
51:36 <T3sl4> interesting application https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/jfvuyp/heres_something_you_dont_see_everyday_mezerg_and/
51:41 <T3sl4> and, speaking of synth
54:14 <electrohead> o/
55:08 * T3sl4 hugs head
55:30 <electrohead> only my head? lol
55:33 * electrohead hugs back
57:01 <rust_collector> hi mr head
59:45 <hsn> https://youtu.be/NS3AqJB5SfU ---- Diabolical Ironclad Beetle: Unlocking the secrets of its super-tough design
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