// #d&d — 2012-11-26
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00:00:06 <nosratheno> I live in Dubbo currently
00:00:26 <nosratheno> consequently the last chick i bang was from dubbo.....
00:00:26 <Ballig> yuck
00:00:56 <nosratheno> Origianlly from Penrith...but lived in Brisbane perth and armidale
00:01:05 <nosratheno> and can't spell for shit
00:01:56 <nosratheno> Ballig the Bastard; Where are you from ?
00:02:50 <Ballig> I lived in Dubbo for 5 years
00:03:02 <nosratheno> wow
00:03:19 <nosratheno> i knew never anyone from dubbo before i lived here
00:04:49 <nosratheno> I've only been here 2 years
00:05:01 <Ballig> you moved there just after I left, then
00:05:03 <nosratheno> what exciting years they've been
00:05:41 <nosratheno> where'd you move ?
00:05:56 <nosratheno> Say Orange and I'll visit
00:06:08 <nosratheno> with beer
00:06:30 <Ballig> haha
00:06:32 <Ballig> no, I moved to Canberra
00:07:31 <nosratheno> ok
00:07:58 <nosratheno> I've been meaning to move to Orange...its much like Armidale
00:08:01 <nosratheno> nice weather
00:08:11 <Ballig> Orange is better than Dubbo, imo
00:08:18 <Ballig> same population but more amenities
00:08:24 <nosratheno> And I've lived in Sydney and Brisabne long enough
00:08:29 <nosratheno> correct
00:08:44 <nosratheno> Orange; its better than Dubbo
00:08:51 <nosratheno> nuff said
00:09:13 <nosratheno> Mind you i lived Brisbane...
00:09:19 <nosratheno> ex gf lives there
00:09:20 <Ballig> I lived in Brisbane for a few years
00:09:22 <Ballig> I didn't mind it
00:09:31 <Ballig> are you following me
00:09:33 <nosratheno> liked not lived
00:09:35 <nosratheno> but same same
00:09:41 <nosratheno> not
00:09:48 <nosratheno> when did you move to brisbane
00:09:49 <nosratheno> ?
00:10:00 <Ballig> 2003
00:10:08 <nosratheno> I moved there 2001
00:10:09 <nosratheno> :P
00:10:18 <Ballig> pre-emptively following me!
00:10:20 <nosratheno> lol
00:10:26 <nosratheno> I left in 2007
00:10:31 <nosratheno> for uni in Armidale
00:11:47 <nosratheno> and now am going out to dinner
00:12:05 <nosratheno> zzzZzz
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00:56:37 <Avatar> wow
00:56:41 <Avatar> that is a good job for me
00:56:44 <Avatar> maybe I will apply
01:00:06 <MekkisScreen> hey
01:00:10 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine:
01:00:24 <Hydrazine> ?
01:02:02 <Hydrazine> MekkisScreen:
01:02:17 <MekkisScreen> hey
01:02:40 <Hydrazine> hey
01:10:21 <Avatar> Mekkis:
01:19:00 <Mekkis> Avatar,
01:19:24 <Mekkis> want to do Ambush at Absalom tonight?
01:21:10 <Avatar> what is that
01:22:16 <Avatar> a PFS quest eh
01:22:21 <Avatar> no exp or gold but a single use boon
01:22:56 <Avatar> might give it a miss for tonight, I only had 3 hours sleep and if I need to go to bed early, it'll be unhealthy not to
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02:57:30 <Brunius> Mekkis / MekkisScreen / Mekkis_x200 : I want to run an LED off a 3V power supply, but the datasheet only supplies the ohmage of series resistors at 5V, 9V, and 12V. Any idea how I would calculate what ohmage resistor I need?
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05:17:21 <Tashes> Brunius:
05:17:25 <Tashes> BRUNIUS!
05:17:37 <Brunius> Tashes?
05:17:40 <Tashes> Get on skype!
05:17:44 <Brunius> I am on skype
06:19:33 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 8th 12pm (tier 1-2 module,Caleth) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
06:22:10 <Steven> sup sup
06:22:15 <Steven> im awake
06:36:43 <Mekkis> oh no
06:36:47 <Mekkis> I am aak
06:39:17 <Steven> aak?
06:39:28 <Steven> im not familiar with that one
06:56:45 <Brunius> Huh, I guessed the problem with the Australian PS2 server
06:56:50 <Brunius> (Correctly)
06:58:13 <Steven> so... hows everyone doin
06:58:21 <Brunius> I woke up 4 hours ago.
06:58:24 <Brunius> It feels like noon
06:58:46 <Steven> i woke up bout half an hour ago
06:58:58 <Steven> its 4am here
07:01:33 <Brunius> 11pm
07:01:46 <Steven> yup i know
07:01:50 <Brunius> I should pull another allnighter
07:02:04 <Steven> i have a second clock on my computer set up to australian time
07:02:09 <Steven> also have london time put on it
07:02:25 <Brunius> Cool.
07:03:14 <Steven> way easier than figuring out times
07:10:38 <Mekkis> asleep at keyboard
07:10:49 <Mekkis> I just set my clock to UTC
07:11:25 <Brunius> I keep getting missed skype calls at 10am 1/1/1970
07:11:34 <Mekkis> hehe
07:11:57 <Steven> lol
07:14:47 <Steven> i am so glad i went and bought tissues
07:15:06 <Steven> i was using TP to blow my nose, oh man it was so chapped
07:26:16 <Mekkis> Brunius, do you use a magnifier when painting?
07:26:27 <Brunius> Nah, it messes with my depth perception too much
07:33:42 <Tashes> Steven: get better tp.
07:34:50 <Steven> it is good tp
07:35:00 <Steven> its not not soft after you have gone through a roll of it on your nose
07:35:17 <Tashes> i do that all the time..
07:35:29 <Tashes> maybe i just have shit tissues.
07:35:35 <Tashes> C WUT I DID THAR
07:35:44 <Steven> yup
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08:25:39 <Mekkis> Avatar, http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/23/article-0-162D99AD000005DC-364_634x321_popup.jpg
08:26:00 <Mekkis> that's a job for you!
08:26:50 <Brunius> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237516/Jobcentre-advertises-hitman-kill-undesirables-Government-staff-fail-notice-fake.html
09:56:57 <Avatar> wow
09:57:02 <Avatar> that is a good job for me
09:57:04 <Avatar> maybe I will apply
13:37:44 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 8th 12pm (tier 1-2 module,Caleth) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
13:37:44 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Nov 26 06:19:53 2012
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15:59:46 <MekkisScreen> hey
15:59:50 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine:
16:00:03 <Hydrazine> ?
16:01:41 <Hydrazine> MekkisScreen:
16:01:57 <MekkisScreen> hey
16:02:19 <Hydrazine> hey
16:10:00 <Avatar> Mekkis:
16:18:39 <Mekkis> Avatar,
16:19:03 <Mekkis> want to do Ambush at Absalom tonight?
16:20:50 <Avatar> what is that
16:21:55 <Avatar> a PFS quest eh
16:22:01 <Avatar> no exp or gold but a single use boon
16:22:35 <Avatar> might give it a miss for tonight, I only had 3 hours sleep and if I need to go to bed early, it'll be unhealthy not to
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19:24:58 <Munkir> I'm new to online Pathfinder anyone want to feed me information?
19:26:39 <Munkir> Anyone here? I wouldn't mind sitting in on a game to learn
20:56:48 <MekkisScreen> dieb
21:27:29 <nosratheno> but maybe that would just be for my benefit
21:27:34 <nosratheno> *shrug*
21:38:06 <nosratheno> Well i killed a goblin
21:38:07 <nosratheno> :D
21:38:15 <nosratheno> Zag is happy
21:39:16 <Avatar> yeah I'm joking
21:39:41 <Avatar> that introduction did feel a bit like we rushed into it because it went straight into a dungeon crawl
21:39:49 <Avatar> but I think it had more to do with us only playing for a short time
21:39:56 <nosratheno> yeah
21:40:05 <nosratheno> an intro to everyone would have been nice
21:40:05 <Avatar> we should've used our startup to work out who was going to be doing what
21:40:13 <Avatar> instead of whining about caleth being late
21:40:16 <nosratheno> just to get an idea of the relative strengthas
21:40:19 <nosratheno> -a
21:40:29 <nosratheno> yep
21:41:46 <nosratheno> I also need to work out movement..
21:42:04 <nosratheno> im 20 foot with armour...so running is
21:42:08 <nosratheno> 3x ?
21:43:00 <nosratheno> ok 4 for medium
21:43:05 <nosratheno> armour
21:43:34 <nosratheno> hustle is 2x
21:44:46 <Avatar> don't know about running
21:44:49 <Avatar> nobody ever really does it
21:44:54 <nosratheno> ok
21:45:09 <nosratheno> basically a double move is what i was thinking
21:45:13 <nosratheno> being way in the back
21:45:26 <Avatar> yeah that's just move-move
21:45:29 <Avatar> intsead of move-standard
21:45:45 <nosratheno> ok so move move 40 feet
21:45:45 <Avatar> the run feat still exists
21:45:54 <Avatar> run is 4x speed, with that feat it's 5x speed
21:46:22 <Avatar> oh it actually mentions all the rules for running in that feat
21:46:30 <Avatar> 3x your speed with heavy armor
21:46:39 <Avatar> or 4x with that feat
21:46:58 <nosratheno> hmm it also says that in movment in the combat section of the CRB
21:47:06 <nosratheno> but no mention of a feat
21:47:08 <Avatar> but yeah generally you will always just moving, double-moving/withdrawing
21:47:13 <nosratheno> ok
21:47:28 <nosratheno> yeah i need to know what the general moves are :)
21:47:28 <Avatar> it's kind of rare to use running unless you are doing some sort of long distance thing
21:47:45 <nosratheno> so just double my movement for a move move
21:47:48 <Avatar> yeah
21:47:50 <nosratheno> instead of move standard
21:47:52 <nosratheno> ok
21:47:53 <nosratheno> :)
21:48:00 <Avatar> double-move is essentially the same as withdraw
21:48:26 <Avatar> withdraw doesn't mean you have to move back, just that you're not threatened in your first square that you move out of
21:48:41 <nosratheno> right
21:49:23 <nosratheno> ok well i should be ok on basic movement...
21:49:30 <nosratheno> trouble was gobs above us
21:49:34 <nosratheno> and how to get to them
21:49:49 <Avatar> there was a stairway on map 3
21:49:56 <Avatar> do you still have it open
21:50:05 <nosratheno> no but i did see map 3
21:50:13 <nosratheno> they were left and right ?
21:50:21 <Avatar> yeah
21:50:23 <nosratheno> ok
21:50:26 <nosratheno> just checking
21:50:27 <Avatar> oh wait maybe not
21:50:33 <Avatar> hard to tell
21:50:36 <nosratheno> would have taken me a bit to get there
21:50:40 <nosratheno> oh ok
21:50:41 <nosratheno> lol
21:50:42 <Avatar> did you bring a ranged weapon
21:50:44 <nosratheno> no
21:50:44 <nosratheno> :P
21:50:46 <Avatar> man
21:50:47 <Avatar> big mistake
21:50:50 <nosratheno> that was my last build
21:50:51 <Avatar> always always bring a ranged weapon
21:51:00 <nosratheno> i leave that to those in the know
21:51:01 <nosratheno> :P
21:51:07 <Avatar> what class are you again
21:51:08 <nosratheno> but i could i guess
21:51:10 <nosratheno> cleric
21:51:20 <nosratheno> +1 dex
21:51:21 <Avatar> you could probably hang back and heal instead
21:51:24 <Avatar> at least you're still contributing that way
21:51:24 <nosratheno> yeah
21:51:29 <Avatar> but get a ranged weapon
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21:51:37 <Avatar> you can't now obv
21:51:42 <nosratheno> thats fine
21:51:54 <nosratheno> you guys seemd to have their measure
21:52:46 <Avatar> yeah I have their measure
21:52:49 <Avatar> I shoot at them
21:52:55 <Avatar> that's their measure
21:54:40 <nosratheno> lol
21:57:05 <nosratheno> I had some breakage on the U.S voices...I dont use skype so its all new to me..but this is normal yeah ?
21:57:52 <nosratheno> not *just* my connection
21:59:50 <Steven> back
21:59:52 <Steven> had to run over to my dads
22:01:15 <nosratheno> wb
22:08:40 <Mekkis> Brunius, what sort of LEDs?
22:08:43 <Mekkis> and what for?
22:08:58 <Mekkis> and what power supply
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22:10:36 <Brunius> what do you mean what sort of LEDs
22:10:41 <Brunius> for lighting stuff
22:10:46 <Brunius> probably AA batteries
22:18:26 <Mekkis> if you're trying christmas lighting off a PSU, then I'd recommend something else
22:18:39 <Mekkis> if you're using colour-changing LEDs, no resister is required
22:19:01 <Mekkis> what's the voltage drop and current of the LEDs you're looking at?
22:23:11 <Mekkis> so, what are you really after, Brunius?
22:23:25 <Mekkis> can you send me the datasheet?
22:33:08 <Steven> oh mans...
22:33:20 <Steven> im bored....
22:38:51 <Brunius> http://www.jaycar.com.au/products_uploaded/ZD0130%20-%20AL-314B1C-004.pdf
22:39:03 <Mekkis> what stuff are you lighting?
22:39:29 <Mekkis> you want blue? really?
22:39:42 <Brunius> Well, blue or UV
22:40:28 <Mekkis> and 3mm? 5mm is better for lumens per watt per dollar
22:40:39 <Brunius> size constraints.
22:40:43 <Mekkis> ah
22:40:52 <Mekkis> what type of AA batteries?
22:41:00 <Brunius> 2000mAH
22:41:07 <Mekkis> what chemistry?
22:41:42 <Mekkis> Nimh?
22:41:55 <Brunius> Yeah
22:42:00 <Mekkis> ok
22:42:06 <Mekkis> so low internal resistance
22:42:18 <Mekkis> how many?
22:42:25 <Mekkis> batteries, that is?
22:42:40 <Brunius> Two is the plan, but looking at the voltage I might need three to get past min voltage
22:42:46 <Mekkis> yep
22:42:54 <Mekkis> unless you use something like a joule thief
22:43:02 <Mekkis> or some other pump
22:43:11 <Brunius> Mmm
22:43:23 <Mekkis> considered using an 18650 or similar instead?
22:43:26 <Brunius> I keep meaning to investigate pumps for solenoids
22:43:34 <Brunius> trustfires?
22:43:49 <Mekkis> or whatever they're calling themselves this month
22:44:07 <Mekkis> ultrafire, surefire, trustfire, catchonfire, whatever
22:44:07 <Brunius> I hadn't, actually.
22:44:09 <Brunius> Might fit better.
22:44:10 <Brunius> Hmmm
22:44:21 <Brunius> catchonfire was my fear.
22:44:33 <Mekkis> none of mine have done they yet
22:44:45 <Mekkis> but you wanted resistance calculations
22:44:55 <Mekkis> ok, you know Ohm's law?
22:45:15 <Mekkis> E=IR
22:45:19 <Mekkis> or V=IR
22:45:22 <Mekkis> or V=AR
22:45:33 <Mekkis> depending on who taught you it, right?
22:45:49 <Brunius> V=IR was what I was taught
22:46:04 <Mekkis> you know Kirchoff's current law?
22:46:35 <Brunius> Sounds familiar, so I've probably got it written down in a notebook somewhere
22:46:42 <Brunius> But I don't remember it
22:47:01 <Mekkis> all currents going into a node equal zero
22:47:32 <Brunius> Right.
22:48:01 <Mekkis> since your circuit will be pretty much: battery --- resister --- led --- other terminal of battery
22:48:11 <Mekkis> all the currents in the circuit will be the same
22:48:48 <Mekkis> Kirchoff's Voltage Law states that all voltages in a loop add up to zero
22:49:19 <Mekkis> so, if your battery is 3.6V, and your LED's V_F is 3.3V
22:49:32 <Mekkis> what's the voltage across the resister?
22:49:52 <Brunius> 0.3V?
22:50:00 <Mekkis> correct
22:50:20 <Brunius> Woo, do I get extra marks for the test
22:50:36 <Mekkis> and if the I_F through the LED should be 20mA, what should the current through the resister be?
22:50:46 <Mekkis> resistor even
22:51:05 <Brunius> higher?
22:51:16 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> all currents going into a node equal zero
22:51:21 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> all the currents in the circuit will be the same
22:51:35 <Brunius> so 20mA
22:51:37 <Mekkis> yeah
22:51:47 <Mekkis> so shove them into Ohm's law
22:51:50 <Mekkis> what do you get?
22:52:01 <Mekkis> 0.3 = 0.02 R
22:52:02 <Brunius> 0.3/0.020 ?
22:52:13 <Mekkis> so R = 0.3 / 0.02
22:52:17 <Brunius> So 15 ohms?
22:52:20 <Mekkis> yep
22:53:12 <Mekkis> you might want to play it safe and use a little higher, maybe 18 ohm.
22:53:25 <Brunius> So 3.3 is from the forward voltage in that datasheet?
22:53:32 <Mekkis> Remember that a fully charged NimH has a slightly higher voltage
22:53:43 <Mekkis> page 2
22:53:57 <Mekkis> Forward voltage: min 3.0, Typ 3.3, max 3.5
22:54:10 <Brunius> Yeah, I see it
22:54:28 <Mekkis> where are you using it?
22:54:49 <Mekkis> (you're obviously not wiring up christmas lights, like I did back in highschool)
22:55:13 <Brunius> Nerf clip
22:55:18 <Mekkis> oh
22:55:29 <Mekkis> in that case
22:55:37 <Mekkis> use a battery from an old phone
22:56:41 <Mekkis> then you can run http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/50x-3mm-White-Flash-LED-Bulb-Free-Resistors-/190748834541?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item2c69843aed with no resister
22:58:32 <Mekkis> or http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-Blue-White-Fast-Flash-3mm-LEDs-Light-Free-Resistors-/190727824720?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item2c6843a550 if you're cheap
22:58:52 <Mekkis> (and I have bought from that seller: he/she's reliable)
23:00:10 <Brunius> you'd wonder, with a username like that
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23:04:45 <Brunius> Oh no.
23:05:06 <Mekkis> Der Sachiru hast Gefinden
23:05:42 <Mekkis> but a phone battery will probably do what you're after
23:06:12 <Brunius> If I can find any
23:06:25 <Mekkis> that's easy
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23:06:51 <Mekkis> go to an optus shop, and ask if you can take an old phone off their hands
23:07:22 <Brunius> Do optus shops even exist anymore?
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23:08:21 <Mekkis> yes
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23:10:20 <Brunius> How would you attach terminals to a phone battery, anyway?
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23:10:33 <Brunius> Hmm, that doesn't sound right.
23:10:42 <Mekkis> soldering iron?
23:10:46 <Mekkis> clip?
23:11:09 <Brunius> last time I tried soldering directly to a battery it blew up.
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23:11:57 <Brunius> Then again, I could try soldering using leaded solder this time.
23:12:17 <Mekkis> did you sand the terminals?
23:12:28 <Brunius> No
23:12:47 <Mekkis> did you flux them?
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23:13:39 <Brunius> I think so
23:23:42 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/CRW_1613_v1.JPG My first semi-decent at photographing and editing a photo of a poorly painted mini using a hacked camera.
23:24:22 <Mekkis> any assistance with photography, postwork or painting is appreciated
23:28:03 <nosratheno> well thats about 12 beers...i guess dinner is soon in order
23:28:43 <nosratheno> all mean for todays session :P
23:28:45 <nosratheno> t
23:35:06 <Avatar> was skype better after I rehosted the call
23:35:19 <Avatar> worked wonders on my end compared to the first calll
23:35:45 <nosratheno> umm yeah i thought it was too
23:36:37 <Avatar> caleth's connection has been known to be dodgy
23:36:47 <Avatar> something about china I think
23:41:42 <nosratheno> seems fair enough
23:41:44 <Steven> much better after the switch
23:41:55 <Steven> but, methinks im going to sleep now, im tired as balls
23:58:36 <nosratheno> Where are you from Avatar ?
23:58:58 <nosratheno> and no, dont say Australia :P
23:59:11 <Ballig> he's from Australia
23:59:17 <nosratheno> bastard
23:59:26 <Ballig> :)
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