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04:48 <Steven> hello
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11:47 <Steven> wish i had made my fort save vs this cold
12:24 <Sn0uu> >_<
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26:55 <Avatar> shit what was the name of that item we were talking about that gets you out of grapple?
27:07 <Brunius> the one with lightning or whatever?
27:09 <Avatar> yeah
27:18 <Sn0uu> a trident?
27:26 <Avatar> what
27:27 <Brunius> Shoes of Lightning Leaping?
27:34 <Avatar> !item shoes of lightning leaping
27:42 <diebot> Avatar, SHOES OF LIGHTNING LEAPING [moderate transmutation] CL:6 feet 10500gp, 1lb
27:43 <diebot> These short black shoes fit tightly around the wearer's feet and bear designs of leaping arcs of lightning and wild winds. Once per day on command, a creature wearing these boots can transform into lightning and move up to 50 feet in a straight line, re-materializing at the far end of the lightning bolt. Creatures in the path of the lightning take
27:43 <diebot> 6d6 points of electricity damage and objects take damage as per the lightning bolt spell. If the lightning strikes an object or barrier and fails to burst through it, the creature wearing the boots appears next to the impacted object and is staggered for 1 round. Movement while in lightning form does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
27:56 <Avatar> cheers
28:09 <Brunius> Ctrl+F: Lightning
28:58 <Sn0uu> interesting
29:01 <Sn0uu> how much is that item?
29:09 <Brunius> 10500
29:14 <Brunius> pp
29:15 <Avatar> the price is listed there
30:03 <Sn0uu> oh, look @ that, it is :)
35:20 <Avatar> not sure if I should take that or the decoy ring
36:23 <Avatar> that is a little cheaper and does some damage as well as gives me a way out of grapple, but it's once per day
40:30 <Brunius> arem
40:44 <Brunius> aren't 1/day triggers in PFS 1/scenario?
40:59 <Brunius> or is that just for longer than that?
41:12 <Avatar> no that's 1/week or month
52:04 <Avatar> pretty incredible that the decoy ring is unlimited use
52:24 <Avatar> there's really no reason you can't use it whenever you like
21:25 <Ballig> that is quite crazy
21:33 <Ballig> I want one of those for every one of my characters
21:43 <Ballig> "Oh shit I'm in trouble! I will withdraw and become invisible at the same time!"
21:52 <Ballig> basically gives you super withdraw
25:42 <Avatar> yeah
26:03 <Avatar> but you don't even really need it just for withdrawing because you make that happen whenever you like
26:21 <Ballig> yeah, if you ever need a short invisibility just withdraw
27:11 <Avatar> a tough GM might make you "fake" it by having a party member attack you
27:16 <Avatar> but really that is overkill
27:39 <Ballig> I don't think the description calls for that
27:59 <Ballig> it could be an interesting item for a rogue to use to get into flanking position easily at the start of combat
28:00 <Avatar> can you withdraw out of nothing
28:11 <Ballig> why not
28:26 <Ballig> usually it's just a double move where you aren't threatened in your first square
28:30 <Avatar> it's just movement isn't it
28:52 <Ballig> basically it's "moving while paying a lot of attention to how you withdraw from your location"
29:39 <Sn0uu> i'll withdraw
30:35 <Ballig> if you know you're going to be making a double move, and you have a decoy ring, no reason not to have it make you invisible at the same time
35:24 <Avatar> yeah excellent point
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40:54 <Sutekh> Morning
41:05 <Sn0uu> yo
41:16 <Ballig> sup
42:04 <Sutekh> Just found out about this place.. im guessing its been around for a long time
42:19 <Brunius> I arrived here three years ago
42:44 <Avatar> I arrived here 12 years ago
42:49 <Avatar> give or take
47:41 <Sutekh> about the time 3e started
50:56 <Avatar> around 3e / 3.5e
51:04 <Avatar> have you played any PFS
52:31 <Sn0uu> Person First Shooters?
53:12 <Avatar> pathfinder society
53:29 <Avatar> how do you not know this yet man, you've played it twice before
53:50 <Avatar> I thought you downloaded the pathfinder society guide to organised play
54:44 <Sutekh> Were you talking to me? If so.. yeah ive played some Pathfinder. Going to run it for the first time in December
54:45 <Sutekh> hopefully
54:57 <Avatar> I was asking you if you'd played any pfs, yeah
55:08 <Sutekh> Im currently in the accrual stage: waiting for my beginner box to arrive and my maps
55:10 <Avatar> society ? or just pathfinder
56:08 <Sutekh> Society
56:19 <Avatar> v.nice
56:21 <Sutekh> Ive played roughly 10 games I think so far
56:51 <Sutekh> 5 characters, but only 2 of those have seen time. Im going to reserve one of them as the give gm credits to but will likely never be used :)
59:58 <Sutekh> i find the system in general less clunky than Living Greyhawk, but It stilll .. I dont know.. lacks the interest of some of the Living ARcanis I played
00:12 <Sn0uu> what
00:21 <Sn0uu> lost me on that last one
00:59 <Sutekh> Sorry, that was a poor explanation. I find the mission system from Living Arcanis... which was based on the 3.X Arcanis setting was .. better than the one Pathfinder Society uses
01:17 <Sutekh> Where essentially the leaders of each faction know what you are going to find before you find it.
01:53 <Sutekh> or rather they know a lot more about where you are going than you do, cept its unlikely if its a secluded dungeon they would of never been there
02:01 <Sutekh> THats my biggest.. and its only a small gripe really
02:41 <Sutekh> Also I wish that missions conflicted more. Im to expect that there are what... 7 factions now and their goals never put them at odds with one another?
02:50 <Sutekh> Thats a little.. hard to suspend disbelief over
03:56 <Sutekh> I dont expect it every mission, but for example.. Qadira and Taldor and big rivals and there are characters working for both sides. They should be trying to prevent the other side from succeding or it invalidates partially the use of the secret mission system
04:52 <Sutekh> Failing solving that, I wouldnt mind seeing the actual mission handouts being a lot less.. accurate.. or less direct in what they are telling the player. Should be up to the player to nut out what their boss is trying to tell them to do.
05:00 <Sutekh> All just imo that is :)
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11:13 <Brunius> I had to keep everyone alive for a recent faction mission
11:18 <Brunius> That was weird
11:43 <Sutekh> Whats also interesting would be to find out how many people actually buy stuff on their chronicle sheet  and how does that track against what they can buy via their fame. I dont know if its just who I play with but Im finding very few people buying from their chronicle sheet
12:08 <Brunius> Generally because you've got the fame for it
12:17 <Sutekh> which of course defeats the purpose of actually putting treasure you can buy on a chronicle sheet
12:25 <Brunius> Not really
12:37 <Brunius> If you've been really unlucky, you might only have 9 fame at level 3
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12:49 <Brunius> and then you're screwed if you can't buy upgraded weapons
12:58 <Brunius> Which is why they whack it on the sheet
13:02 <Brunius> hmm, 9 at level 4 I mean
13:11 <Sutekh> Yeah, thats the reason why Chronicle items exist
13:15 <Sutekh> I know what you are saying though
13:29 <Brunius> It's like insurance. You don't want to use it, but it's good to have it
13:48 <Sutekh> Still, you are only catering to a smaller audience though as most people actively attempt to finish their faction missions
13:56 <Mekkis> I've bought a few things off chronicle sheets: mainly partially charged wands
14:07 <Sutekh> Same
15:10 <Sutekh> of course there are those that pick just the wrong faction for their character and get the sleight of hand missions when they are playing a low dex fighter or paladin
15:15 <Sutekh> thats always amusing to see
15:40 <Brunius> Until you realise it's locking them out of getting anything decent
15:59 <Sutekh> which is when they turn to Chronicle sheets
16:15 <Brunius> Chronicle sheets don't always have what you want
16:24 <Sutekh> Indeed
16:54 <Sutekh> Its a conundrum isnt it?
16:55 <Sutekh> :)
18:02 <Sutekh> and lets be honest, First Steps is great.. but it really dosnt tell you a huge deal about each faction. You meet them. sometimes once only then thats it. You dont learn the motives of Qadira from meeting the Pasha, I just got the impression of used car salesperson
18:17 <Sutekh> Which apparently is what First Steps is designed to do
18:43 <Mekkis> are you saying he isn't
18:43 <Mekkis> ?
18:55 <Sutekh> Hell the only reason I liked the Scarzni guy (yeah spelling bad) is because I got shown his picture and he had a cool mustache
20:13 <Sutekh> Mekkis: Im going to say in a previous career before he bought himself a Pasha title, he sold used donkeys
20:26 <Sutekh> I love the concept of Vanities
20:37 <Sutekh> thats big tick for PFS from me
20:41 <Mekkis> two of my characters have them
21:19 <Sutekh> I still dont think they are well known and people want to his the raise dead threshold first , but I think they just add something to the game
23:42 <Mekkis> so you play an Osirion, for cheap raises
25:45 <Sn0uu> i want a raise
26:34 <Mekkis> wait until Kernigahn reaches 10th, then you'll get raises for free
26:37 <Sn0uu> wait
26:40 <Sn0uu> used donkeys?
26:42 <Sn0uu> o_O
27:09 <Mekkis> did you actually make a Sczarni character?!
35:09 <Sutekh> me?
35:10 <Sutekh> no
35:25 <Sutekh> I havnt thought of a concept yet to use them
35:57 <Mekkis> I don't understand the appeal of the "Join us and get money" factions
36:17 <Sutekh> I try to pair my character concept to a faction. Lets see, Ive got an Andoran from Galt who is effectively a South American revolutionary :), a Osirion Fire Elementalist, a Cleric of Mephistopheles who loves learning about other peoples secrets
36:41 <Sutekh> and a Dwarf Monk who studied in Hwakkankot? (spelling again bad)
37:10 <Sutekh> He went there to learn to control himself better, but was asked to leave after letting his racial vices go wild
37:21 <Sutekh> hes Lantern Lodge
38:13 <Sutekh> My Cleric is Cheliax
38:37 <Sutekh> Hes probably going to be the one or my monk that gets the gm credits
39:05 <Sutekh> My Andoran Musket Master  is coming along well. 
40:58 <Sutekh> What I like about Golarion is there is just so much to draw from to make a character. My FirE Elementalist is from Rahadoum and is a staunch Athiest. 
41:13 <Mekkis> it is an advantage, yes
42:52 <Sutekh> It reminds me in a way a lot of the Forgotten Realms setting which I guess is what they were aiming for
43:44 <Mekkis> well yeah, they do want High Fantasy
47:40 <Tashes_>   
48:11 <Ballig> 
48:28 <Mekkis>  
48:49 <Mekkis> :
48:51 <Mekkis> : 
49:19 <Sutekh> Well not quite though
49:27 <Sutekh> in FR the gods are well around a lot
49:33 <Sutekh> in Golarion not so much
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07:45 <Avatar> a fellow gunslinger
07:46 <Avatar> love it
10:07 <Sn0uu> i like using snipers
10:18 <Sn0uu> but my DM said they don't exisit
10:58 <Sn0uu> do any of you allow for sniper rifles?
12:37 <Avatar> a musket is essentially your sniper rifle
13:17 <Sn0uu> :(
14:10 <Brunius> Even muskets are pushing it in a fantasy setting
16:11 <Ballig> longbow seems more like a sniper
16:54 <Sutekh> Well Pathfinder is an early firearm setting
17:01 <Sutekh> you basicaly dont get better than a musket
17:04 <Sutekh> thats it 
18:40 <Ballig> also prostitutes
19:23 <Mekkis> Sutekh, get a spyglass and attach it to your gun
21:31 <Ballig> Sn0uu wants the sniper rifle
27:44 <Sn0uu> true story
40:53 <Mekkis> you do. It's called a magic missile
44:02 <Ballig> what kind of action is speaking a command word to activate the special ability of magic armour
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51:40 <Brunius> >speaking
51:45 <Brunius> Free, isn't it?
53:16 <Ballig> maybe, but "Activate a magic item other than a potion or oil" is a standard action
54:26 <Ballig> ah it's standard action
54:44 <Ballig> If armor or a shield has a special ability that the user 
54:44 <Ballig> needs to activate, then the user usually needs to utter the 
54:45 <Ballig> command word (a standard action).
55:10 <Ballig> I'm thinking Bobbob needs to get Hosteling on his armour, so he can store his mount in it
09:16 <Avatar> someone in my game just mentioned that
13:11 <Ballig> but I want the ebony fly statuette first
13:25 <Ballig> Hosteling would be nice, but a flying mount would be dope
14:39 <Avatar> fucking maptool errors
14:51 <Ballig> a bit shit that it errors on the latest version of java
15:22 <Avatar> he couldn't get it set up in roll20
15:38 <Ballig> sounds like he has some pretty specific requirements
21:23 <Avatar> not due to lack of trying
23:11 <Ballig> it's too bad Gogg died, he could have gotten a breastplate of vanishing
23:23 <Ballig> on command the wearer vanishes inside the armour, leaving the breastplate behind while he stays safely hidden in an extradimensional space
25:07 <Avatar> how much is that beotch
25:25 <Ballig> 15,200 gp
25:27 <Ballig> it's a +1 mithral breastplate
25:38 <Ballig> which is worth about 5,000 gp base
25:40 <Sn0uu> :(
25:45 <Ballig> so the ability to disappear on command is about 10,000 gp
27:42 <Sn0uu> Avatar... why don't you try using roll20 instead ?
27:58 <Sn0uu> oh, u already mentioned it lol
28:42 <Avatar> I tried setting it up myself but I can't work out how to resize the grid
28:52 <Avatar> if someone can show me that I'll give it a go but nobody has been able to
28:59 <Avatar> and I haven't been able to play in a game where someone has run something
30:55 <Sn0uu> resize the grid?
30:58 <Sn0uu> I've done that
31:02 <Sn0uu> hold on
32:59 <Sn0uu> if FF would open >_,
33:10 <Ballig> use IE
33:57 <Sn0uu> and now i need to open my e-mail to get my password ><_<
34:48 <Sn0uu> @ Balls: you mean "The entirely new browser. The better touch browser for Hotmail. Get it with Windows 8"??
35:17 <Ballig> sure, use that one
43:41 <Sn0uu> u find it yet?
43:53 <Sn0uu> now, how do you mean resize?
44:23 <Ballig> didn't you say you've done it
44:26 <Sn0uu> because is the "Page Size"" / "Scale" not working out for you under the Page settings?
45:31 <Sn0uu> (to get to Page options, open the blue tab on the top right of the screen)
45:46 <Sn0uu> then click the settings button to the top left of the page you are working on
46:03 <Sn0uu> does that work Avatar?
46:11 <Ballig> he's playing a game
46:15 <Ballig> he's not screwing with roll20 right now
48:12 <Sn0uu> booo
48:16 <Sn0uu> thanks for info
48:23 <Sn0uu> were you able to Ballz?
48:32 <Ballig> I've never looked at roll20
56:44 <Sn0uu> oh
56:44 <Sn0uu> shame
58:01 <Mekkis> why is that shameful?
00:52 <Sn0uu> i didn't say FOR shame
00:54 <Sn0uu> I meant it is a shame
00:57 <Sn0uu> since its so cool
01:15 <Mekkis> roll20?
01:18 <Mekkis> how so?
01:36 <Sn0uu> have you seen it?
01:38 <Sn0uu> its cool
03:32 <Ballig> compelling
03:59 <Brunius> Have you seen what we use
04:03 <Brunius> It, too, is 'cool'
04:14 <Brunius> I'm fairly sure Ballig put some special code in there to lower the temperature.
06:14 <Sn0uu> i think i've seen what you use
06:21 <Sn0uu> skype and CA?
06:24 <Sn0uu> they're ok
06:49 <Sn0uu> granted, R20 is not really complete yet
07:09 <Sn0uu> is it CA that you're talking about?
07:13 <Sn0uu> and did Ballz make it?
13:08 <Mekkis> about 96%
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36:23 <Sn0uu> if you're saying what i think you are
36:27 <Sn0uu> that is super cool
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39:52 <Steven> hey guys
40:07 <Mekkis> 'ey
41:33 <Steven> i think my cold is finally breaking up
45:58 <Brunius> I will build whatever I like, Steven.
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50:21 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
50:21 Mekkis sets mode -i Mekkis
50:21 Mekkis sets mode -r Mekkis
50:21 Mekkis sets mode -w Mekkis
50:21 Mekkis sets mode -x Mekkis
55:17 Mekkis sets mode +w Mekkis
55:17 Mekkis sets mode +i Mekkis
55:17 Mekkis sets mode +R Mekkis
55:17 waia.wa.au.austnet.org sets mode +x Mekkis
55:18 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 25th 11am (tier 1-2 module,Caleth) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au 
55:18 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Fri Nov 23 20:06:18 2012
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10:20 <Avatar> levelled up
10:27 <Avatar> oh wait, fuck I didn't
10:40 <Avatar> well that's disappointing
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15:11 <Ballig> I levelled up
17:04 <Avatar> one more
23:34 <nosratheno> Hey guys. Can I get a final check on my char. Everything look ok ? http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=550
24:11 <Avatar> sec
24:31 <Avatar> how many hp do you have
24:47 <Ballig> 10
24:53 <nosratheno> 13
24:55 <nosratheno> with toughness
25:06 <Ballig> oh you just updated that
25:08 <Ballig> I'm thinking what it says 10
25:15 <nosratheno> yeah
25:17 <nosratheno> :P
25:28 <Avatar> the text sheet says 13/10, that's what confused me
25:34 <nosratheno> ahh
25:42 <nosratheno> i wasnt sure how to add that
25:59 <nosratheno> fixed
26:13 <Ballig> add it to your total hp too
26:25 <nosratheno> done
26:54 <Avatar> looks like your favoured class point went to skills
27:09 <nosratheno> yeah
27:13 <nosratheno> i just put it there
27:17 <Avatar> that sacred touch trait sucks a bit
27:18 <nosratheno> mainly for rp
27:24 <Avatar> you're a cleric, you do that anyway
27:29 <nosratheno> yeah i guess it does
27:47 <nosratheno> mainly rp 
27:55 <nosratheno> but you are right
28:19 <Avatar> just add in AC check penalties to your skills and you'll be right
28:23 <nosratheno> ill change it
28:28 <nosratheno> ok thanks
29:10 <Ballig> just add the words -4 ACP to the bonuses box for each class that has an armour check
29:31 <nosratheno> will do
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46:05 <nosratheno> Yeah i dont know what to put as the second trait in place of Sacred Touch..Birthmark is +2 saves v charm and compulsion spells...or just get Indomitable Faith +1 to Will saves..
47:22 <Ballig> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/faith-traits/exalted-of-the-society-cleric-pathfinder-society
47:53 <nosratheno> well thats nice
48:30 <nosratheno> hmm guess I'll take that :)
48:32 <nosratheno> ty
48:57 <Ballig> the "of the Society" traits are pretty solid if you meet the class requirement (cleric in this case) and can't think of anything else to take
55:17 <nosratheno> Just to get it out there- This will be my first game of any system in forever, so I will be a bit nervous and not particularly knowledgable. Hopefully it wont bog things down too much. Other thing is Im trying this out as a way to get out of my comfort zone and confront a social anxiety that my brain seems to think it has. GL me. 
56:21 <nosratheno> I am also excited about playing. Ive owned the Core book since it came out but have never played.
58:46 <Ballig> we get a lot of newbies here
58:55 <nosratheno> ok
00:22 <Ballig> Avatar is still a newbie
03:43 <nosratheno> This session tomorrow, is that like the equivalent of 1 xp ?
04:13 <Ballig> the one tomorrow is a bit different, it's a module instead of a scenario
04:22 <Ballig> it's like several scenarios together so you won't finish it in one session
04:30 <Ballig> when you finish it you will get 3xp from it though, so you will level up
04:39 <nosratheno> ahh ok
05:23 <nosratheno> Well I guess im going to get to know my 1st lvl build then
05:26 <nosratheno> lol
07:19 <Ballig> assuming Avatar doesn't get you killed
07:22 <Ballig> he got a guy killed twice today!
07:37 <nosratheno> Noooo
08:49 <nosratheno> ./DarthVader
09:00 <nosratheno> I figure ill bless everyone, enlarge person, shield of faith then wade in
09:17 <nosratheno> time permitting
10:13 <nosratheno> hopefully no one needs healing
10:16 <nosratheno> :D
10:41 <Ballig> that's when you channel right in their faces
10:49 <nosratheno> lol
15:34 <Avatar> nosratheno: nothing to be nervous about man
15:37 <Avatar> you will be fine
15:41 <nosratheno> thanks
17:37 <Avatar> the fact you managed to create your character without much (any?) help from us puts you ahead of most people who play
18:08 <nosratheno> its actually an irrational response. The Fight / Flight part of my system is a bit screwy. Something i need to work on. 
18:16 <nosratheno> And thank you for the encouragement
18:38 <nosratheno> I have had a lot of time lookign the book over :P
19:14 <Avatar> yeah dont' worry, ballig is pretty irrational and he gets by okay
19:55 <Ballig> you can't trust anything Avatar says
20:01 <nosratheno> :P
20:44 <Avatar> in fact I don't really know how ballig gets by but somehow he does it
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