// #d&d — 2012-11-12
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00:23:28 <MekkisScreen> BotRK?
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01:04:18 <Avatar> RtkoP?
01:10:46 <Hydrazine> BotRK. Blade of the Ruined King.
01:40:46 <N2H4> That is hilarious, Mek.
01:40:58 <N2H4> If you shipped it in a steel box.. you'd never get it out of the box.
01:41:27 <N2H4> I'm pretty sure I'd manage to shatter the magnet, my hand, or both within an hour if I had one.
01:41:34 <Brunius> I kinda want to get one just to see how they deliver it
01:42:32 <N2H4> my father has a pair of cylinder ones about 2" long and 1" across.
01:42:41 <N2H4> He keeps them in a padded wooden box.
01:43:39 <N2H4> I messed with them once. But not for very long. I got the feeling I would either have them snap together and break or snap together and break my thumb.
01:52:53 <Mekkis> what's that?
01:54:02 <Hydrazine> new League item. I think it might be too strong.
01:54:40 <Ballig> the king is ruined though, surely his blade is worthless
01:54:58 <Mekkis> League?
01:55:13 <Brunius> of Legends
01:55:18 <Brunius> that dota rip off
01:55:47 <Hydrazine> Maybe hes ruined because some bastard took his blade.
01:56:44 <Ballig> was it you
01:56:50 <Hydrazine> Perhaps.
02:17:23 <Avatar> :o)
02:23:43 <Hydrazine> What can I say? Needed a blade.
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03:44:32 <Steven> well.... that was fun
03:45:05 <Steven> had to leave pfs at the shop because my father called me and hung up, then i couldnt get ahold of him when i called him back
03:45:36 <Steven> so i thought something was wrong, so i went over to check on him
03:46:01 <Steven> come home, argument with sam time! YAY!
03:47:12 <Steven> shes staying at her moms tonight, cause im an asshole.
03:48:32 <Steven> hows breaking up go, rocky, arguments over stupid shit, staying nights at parents/friends houses...
03:49:41 <Steven> and then a separation and finally the break up?
03:51:33 <Avatar> yo
03:51:40 <Ballig> did you GM
03:52:41 <Steven> gotta love relationship problems
03:52:53 <Avatar> nope
03:53:02 <Avatar> and I won't have to GM it for at least another 3 weeks
03:53:10 <Steven> i wonder if i am going to move out or if shes going to...
03:53:12 <Ballig> did you get your party killed again
03:53:14 <Ballig> while running away
03:53:22 <Avatar> also I might have recruited one of them
03:53:27 <Ballig> nice work
03:53:31 <Avatar> thx alot
03:53:45 <Steven> i mean this was my place before she moved in.
03:54:28 <Ballig> so that was a "yes" to getting your party killed again?
03:55:54 <Avatar> what, no
03:56:03 <Avatar> it was a cakewalk, we played optimised at tier 1-2
03:56:14 <Ballig> were you the only survivor
03:56:14 <Avatar> didn't have a choice RAW apparently
03:56:17 <Avatar> no shut up
04:05:13 <Avatar> failed my faction mission :(
04:05:28 <N2H4> Faction missions are stupid.
04:05:30 <Avatar> I'm finding keeping faction missions secret is really quite detrimental to the faction
04:06:12 <Avatar> unless it specifically tells you to, of course
04:06:51 <N2H4> Faction missions are classist!
04:07:19 <Avatar> I failed mine on a DC 20 roll and I'd already used my shirt reroll
04:07:37 <Avatar> I likely would have succeeded if I asked for party help, but I didn't because I thought well it's a faction mission and all sorts of other shit was going on
04:07:44 <Ballig> yeah, DC 20 skill is really hard to do at level 1-2
04:07:44 <Avatar> but that is retardotron thinking
04:07:52 <Ballig> unless it's a skill you have
04:07:53 <Avatar> I only needed a 13 or higher
04:08:06 <Avatar> I'm a bard
04:08:13 <N2H4> 13 or higher is Not even 50/50 odds. Would you bet on that?
04:08:25 <Avatar> it's still pretty decent
04:08:30 <Avatar> yeah I might bet on it
04:08:50 <Ballig> depends on what you cuold win
04:08:55 <Ballig> and what you have to bet
04:09:04 <Ballig> if it was "bet $10 and win $1000" I'd definitely bet on that
04:10:58 <N2H4> Still say faction missions are classist.
04:11:17 <Avatar> is that because they usually rely on skills and you usually have none
04:12:23 <N2H4> What percentage of faction missions involve skills on the fighter class list?
04:12:47 <Avatar> see that just adds to the reasoning that parties should work together to do faction missions
04:13:03 <Avatar> maybe that was the actual intention anyway
04:13:59 <N2H4> Then why make such a big noise about keeping them secret?
04:14:14 <N2H4> Hell, some faction missions require you to keep them secret, without telling you so in the first place.
04:19:26 <N2H4> But the thought that some classes in general are simply worse at completing faction missions than others, bothers me.
04:19:44 <Avatar> the initial idea was to always keep them secret? or so we understood it
04:19:56 <Avatar> that seems commonplace, but maybe it was a case of chinese whispers
04:20:24 <N2H4> you just said that maybe the intention was to work together.
04:25:23 <Avatar> yeah, but that's not what was understood
04:25:39 <Avatar> the idea that everyone was talking about was that they should be kept secret from other pathfinders
04:25:54 <Avatar> that's still the case now with every game I play in handing out missions
04:26:04 <Avatar> it's up to the player to tell what they want to tell
04:26:26 <Avatar> I'm speculating in saying maybe the intention was to work together
04:27:27 <Brunius> The older guides specifically mentioned that you were meant to keep them secret, didn't they
04:27:56 <Avatar> don't know
04:28:20 <Brunius> Also: In about two weeks, I'll be a learner driver. Anything I should really know?
04:28:35 <Avatar> don't hit other cars
04:28:43 <Brunius> Oh, thanks.
04:28:50 <Brunius> The vicroads guide didn't cover that
04:28:50 <N2H4> Or people.
04:28:52 <N2H4> Even old ladies.
04:28:57 <Brunius> The guide did cover people
04:28:57 <Avatar> keep a keen sense smell, look out for bacon
04:29:21 <Brunius> (I'm actually serious here. At no point did it mention that we were trying to avoid collisions with other cars)
04:29:44 <N2H4> But how far do you think instructions have to go?
04:29:52 <Avatar> the rules don't say it
04:29:53 <Brunius> RAW v RAI
04:29:55 <Avatar> you must be able to
04:30:00 <N2H4> Should a knife come with instructions too? "Avoid sticking this in your face"
04:30:12 <Avatar> natural selection
04:30:22 <Avatar> let's take the instructions off of everything I say
04:30:29 <Avatar> not the instructions, the warning labels
04:31:04 <Brunius> Aww that's natural selection, innit
04:31:29 <N2H4> Like that coffee is hot?
04:33:26 <Brunius> I should get a job.
04:33:37 <Brunius> N2H4: Write my resume.
04:33:47 <N2H4> No.
04:34:04 <Brunius> You're right, a job would probably require talking to people.
04:34:09 <Brunius> Screw talking to people.
04:34:18 <N2H4> Depends on the job.
04:34:37 <Brunius> I'm 16, how many jobs could I get that don't require talking to people
04:34:52 <Brunius> Well, 15 and 354 days
04:36:00 <Avatar> yeah get used to talking to people
04:36:40 <Avatar> then why would you move out
04:37:49 <Steven> cause logic doesnt take place in the mind of a woman
04:38:30 <Ballig> at least people you're forced to work with
04:39:01 <Avatar> for the rest of your life
04:40:09 <Avatar> then take the initiative
04:44:12 <Ballig> just because she says 'you have to move out' doesn't mean you have to move out
04:44:27 <Steven> yeah, dunno whats goin on
04:45:07 <Steven> think ill wait and talk to her tomorrow
05:08:16 <fued> put all her stuff outside, and change the locks
05:10:09 <Steven> yeah.... no, thats a bit immature imo
05:13:13 <Brunius> Yeah that will end badly
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05:36:01 <Steven> well depending on how tomorrows go i may get to go play in a home brew
05:50:42 <Mekkis> Brunius,
05:50:45 <Mekkis> http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=328
05:51:56 <Mekkis> Brunius, and I thought shelf-stacking at supermarkets didn't require much talking
05:54:23 <Ballig> you have to talk to your supervisor and coworkers
05:55:41 <Mekkis> true
05:55:59 <Mekkis> but it's better than needing to talk to any jerkface who can pick up a phone
06:01:46 <Steven> leveling up a character to level 3
06:01:54 <Steven> cave druid
06:05:40 <fued> i should hit up the local shops round here see if anyone runs pathfinder near me
06:07:19 <Steven> if they dont you could always start up some pathfinder
06:08:09 <Steven> build that local community
06:22:17 <Steven> feat for 3rd level druid....
06:30:23 <Steven> alright
06:30:26 <Steven> i cant decide
06:31:17 <Steven> Oread Cave Druid w/ Darkness(night) Domain or an animal companion of a giant scorpion
06:32:06 <Steven> w/ the darkness domain, at level 8 i can see in absolution darkness and magical darkness for rounds/level
06:39:47 <Steven> im just gonna stick w/ darkness domain
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06:48:10 <Steven> if i get to play tomorrow
06:48:19 <Steven> i think ill play my spellbreaker inquisitor
06:52:18 <Steven> i wonder....
06:53:26 <Steven> w/ spellbreaker inquisitors, their capstone ability states that they become immune to one school of arcane magic
06:53:40 <Steven> if they were to pick Abjuration and become immune to its effects
06:54:07 <Steven> if they were to walk into an antimagic field, could they cast spells in it
06:57:22 <Avatar> I still have a complaint letter I got while I was working at coles
06:57:24 <Avatar> from a customer
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07:34:12 <Sn0uu> dance to the beat, shuffle my feet
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07:44:44 <Avatar> that's the same thing
07:44:51 <Mekkis> For each subsequent level, you take average, rounded up.
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07:45:17 <Mekkis> Yes, it is the same thing, but Character Level is the "correct" terminology
09:02:33 <Mekkis> wow
09:02:41 <Mekkis> do large camels have 10' reach?
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14:31:40 <N2H4> No, Mekkis.
14:31:51 <N2H4> Theres large (long) and large (tall)
14:32:08 <N2H4> only (tall) has the 10' reach.
15:23:09 <MekkisScreen> BotRK?
15:28:23 <Avatar> I thought that wasn't the case in pathfinder
15:28:30 <Avatar> ie. no large long/tal
15:30:13 <N2H4> So your horse has a 10' reach too?
15:34:02 <Avatar> oh no, it does exist
15:34:08 <Avatar> table 8-4
15:34:30 <Avatar> did it exist in d&d
15:37:01 <N2H4> 3.5, yes.
15:37:06 <N2H4> No idea on older versions.
15:38:14 <N2H4> Whats funny though, is that I think Mekkis is right, and while the horse listing clearly states the melee range as 5', the camel has no specific note for this. And it just says large. So the obvious answer is 10' reach.
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15:57:41 <Avatar> I still have a complaint letter I got while I was working at coles
15:57:43 <Avatar> from a customer
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16:03:59 <Avatar> RtkoP?
16:05:06 <Sn0uu> nooooo they're getting rid of the blood razors?
16:10:27 <Hydrazine> BotRK. Blade of the Ruined King.
16:14:03 <Avatar> what's a blood razor
16:29:25 <N2H4> Yep.
16:29:34 <N2H4> Replacing it with BotRK.
16:29:41 <N2H4> Which is a good move. Madred's sucks.
16:30:05 <Sn0uu> -_-
16:30:09 <Sn0uu> I likew it
16:30:18 <N2H4> What, you disagree?
16:30:21 <N2H4> Its a trap, man.
16:31:38 <Avatar> ???
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16:34:31 <Sn0uu> dance to the beat, shuffle my feet
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16:52:34 <Mekkis> what's that?
16:53:43 <Hydrazine> new League item. I think it might be too strong.
16:53:53 <S711> Your thoughts on Skyfall?
16:54:21 <Ballig> the king is ruined though, surely his blade is worthless
16:54:39 <Mekkis> League?
16:54:54 <Brunius> of Legends
16:54:59 <Brunius> that dota rip off
16:55:28 <Hydrazine> Maybe hes ruined because some bastard took his blade.
16:56:25 <Ballig> was it you
16:56:31 <Hydrazine> Perhaps.
16:57:57 <Sn0uu> too expensive
16:58:04 <Avatar> hmmm
16:58:18 <Avatar> I didn't realise meteor hammer give a +1 shield bonus while you're not using it as a double weapon
16:58:20 <Avatar> that is kind of important
17:04:10 <S711> Sn0uu: Skyfall was created because the studios behind the franchise are in major financial crap.
17:04:27 <S711> And it shows, in my opinion. It was a way to pay debts.
17:04:58 <S711> It wasn't about moviemaking.
17:05:46 <S711> Like Craig said in interviews, the product placement and that stuff, it was embarrassing, but the money had to come from somewhere.
17:06:23 <S711> Worst Bond movie to date, except for that one with Dalton perhaps.
17:06:47 <S711> That said, Javier, the actor who played the bad guy, he was brilliant.
17:07:06 <S711> Adele did herself a real favor, also, nice song.
17:07:27 <S711> Favour.
17:13:43 <Avatar> rotten tomatoes gives skyfall 93%
17:17:04 <Avatar> :o)
17:23:24 <Hydrazine> What can I say? Needed a blade.
17:49:01 <S711> Yes, high rating on IMDb as well.
17:49:32 <S711> I questioned the validity of the reviews for a second, back when the first few hundred were posted.
17:49:49 <S711> People seem to like Skyfall, I don't know what to make of that.
17:50:14 <S711> Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace were so good and had a strong story going on.
17:56:03 <Ballig> lying in bed, totally snoozing. "Oh crap, what time is it?!"
17:56:07 <Ballig> good thing I've run WBG before
17:56:34 <Ballig> oh, looks like the third dropped out anyway
17:59:32 <Avatar> good one mamou
17:59:50 <Avatar> avro isn't here either, he messaged me on skype at 3am asking for a chronicle sheet
17:59:58 <Avatar> wasn't on when I woke up
18:01:29 <Ballig> brbrbrbrb
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18:44:13 <Steven> well.... that was fun
18:44:46 <Steven> had to leave pfs at the shop because my father called me and hung up, then i couldnt get ahold of him when i called him back
18:45:17 <Steven> so i thought something was wrong, so i went over to check on him
18:45:42 <Steven> come home, argument with sam time! YAY!
18:46:53 <Steven> shes staying at her moms tonight, cause im an asshole.
18:48:13 <Steven> hows breaking up go, rocky, arguments over stupid shit, staying nights at parents/friends houses...
18:49:23 <Steven> and then a separation and finally the break up?
18:52:22 <Steven> gotta love relationship problems
18:52:51 <Steven> i wonder if i am going to move out or if shes going to...
18:53:26 <Steven> i mean this was my place before she moved in.
19:23:38 <Sn0uu> i wanna kiss you
19:31:45 <Diazane> oh baby
19:32:23 <Sn0uu> but im afraid i might miss you
19:32:34 <Diazane> Its probably better that way.
19:32:54 <Sn0uu> -_-
19:32:56 <Sn0uu> who's u anyway?
19:33:24 <Hydrazine> Been reading up on the league changes. Some of the new items look sick.
19:33:31 <Hydrazine> I'm glad they're replacing bloodrazors.
19:34:13 <Sn0uu> ur a jerk
19:34:26 <Hydrazine> Why?
19:34:26 <Sn0uu> BR rox
19:34:32 <Hydrazine> No.
19:35:01 <Hydrazine> With the rare exception of fighting a Mundo who built 4 warmogs.
19:35:15 <Hydrazine> ...Which I've done. He wrecked us.
19:35:47 <Sn0uu> i like playing the tanks who do that
19:36:11 <Hydrazine> Its not cost effective for most of them.
19:36:21 <Avatar> then why would you move out
19:37:31 <Steven> cause logic doesnt take place in the mind of a woman
19:39:52 <Avatar> then take the initiative
19:43:53 <Ballig> just because she says 'you have to move out' doesn't mean you have to move out
19:44:08 <Steven> yeah, dunno whats goin on
19:44:48 <Steven> think ill wait and talk to her tomorrow
20:07:57 <fued> put all her stuff outside, and change the locks
20:09:50 <Steven> yeah.... no, thats a bit immature imo
20:12:54 <Brunius> Yeah that will end badly
20:35:42 <Steven> well depending on how tomorrows go i may get to go play in a home brew
20:42:39 <Mekkis> Ballig, just a FYI. There's been a ruling that mounts can't use Muleback Cords
20:43:07 <Ballig> the FAQ says that animal companions can generally only use barding and a neck slot
20:43:31 <Mekkis> indeed. Muleback cords are a shoulder slot item
20:43:43 <Mekkis> Avatar's been pestering me about it
20:44:55 <Ballig> ha
20:45:01 <Ballig> you'll just have to prepare ant haul
20:45:05 <Mekkis> I do
20:46:00 <Mekkis> and make sure I'm not carrying anything that weighs anything
21:02:47 <Steven> leveling up a character to level 3
21:02:47 <Steven> cave druid
21:06:01 <fued> i should hit up the local shops round here see if anyone runs pathfinder near me
21:07:40 <Steven> if they dont you could always start up some pathfinder
21:08:32 <Mekkis> The end user MUST USE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS when unpacking and using this magnet.
21:08:33 <Mekkis> Remove all metal objects within a 5 foot radius before unpacking.
21:09:36 <Mekkis> how the hell do you ship those things
21:10:45 <Brunius> Steel box?
21:11:22 <Mekkis> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Neodymium-Magnet-6-x-4-x-2-inch-Block-N48-HUGE-/120506978928?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c0ec69270
21:11:39 <Mekkis> you know you want one
21:15:11 <Hydrazine> Howdy.
21:18:10 <Sn0uu> sup
21:19:41 <Hydrazine> Tried out Yorick again. I might have to get him.
21:19:57 <Hydrazine> He takes 9 out of 10 other toplanes to school.
21:19:57 <Sn0uu> ok
21:20:02 <Sn0uu> did you give him bloodrazors?
21:22:29 <Hydrazine> I don't build bloodrazor on anyone.
21:22:47 <Hydrazine> Except for that 4 warmogs mundo game.
21:25:00 <Sn0uu> -sigh-
21:25:42 <Hydrazine> What, you wanna do the math on it?
21:26:38 <Sn0uu> its expensive?
21:29:14 <Hydrazine> On whether or not its actually effective.
21:33:23 <Brunius> I also know I don't have $1000 to drop on a magnet
21:33:40 <Mekkis> chances are you wouldn't get the $1000 off again!
21:33:57 <Ballig> really? what have you been spending all your magnet money on?
21:34:08 <Brunius> Conventions
21:36:47 <Mekkis> is there going to be PFS at cancon?
21:41:36 <Sn0uu> night
21:43:36 <Sn0uu> $1000?
21:44:40 <Hydrazine> I think they're gonna have to nerf BotRK.
21:44:49 <Hydrazine> That active is almost as bad as color spray.
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22:51:04 <Mekkis> anyone want me to run something next weekend?
23:01:54 <Steven> i want you to go out and run the train on like 4 bitches... go go]
23:09:08 <Mekkis> ?
23:09:57 <Steven> running the train = bang the fuck out of her with no respect for her as a person
23:10:56 <Mekkis> no thanks
23:11:10 <Mekkis> so.. Hard judge test. 92%
23:11:14 <Mekkis> I'm losing my touch
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