// #d&d — 2012-11-22
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06:06:16 <Avatar> my summoner will not be a gnome
06:06:29 <Sn0uu> awwww why not?
06:06:34 <Sn0uu> u'd be so cute
06:06:42 <Avatar> gnomes aren't cute, they are annoying
06:06:53 <Sn0uu> just like you ^_^
06:06:56 <Avatar> the only reason I am considering half-elf is because of the +1/4 evolution point for favoured class which no other race has
06:07:05 <Avatar> you're annoying
06:07:48 <Avatar> I am going with halfling though
06:07:58 <Avatar> I already had a set ability stat block I wanted to use
06:08:07 <Avatar> half elf would be difficult to adapt to
06:10:07 <Sn0uu> yeah, i know Avatar...
06:10:15 <Sn0uu> of us, I totally win that battle :(
06:11:49 <Ballig> it's okay, Sn0uu. it's okay *puts a pillow over Sn0uu's face*
06:12:08 <Sn0uu> 0_o
06:12:20 * Sn0uu thinks Ballig would make a bad father :p
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08:27:50 <Mekkis> Avatar, gnomes are only annoying because you think they are
08:29:15 <Steven> my friend joe just sent this to me
08:29:21 <Steven> I NEED HELP TO PLAY A MELEE CHARACTER AND STILL BE COMPETENT in 3.5, i know that's a tall order HELP!
08:30:18 <Steven> i told him to play a druid
08:32:54 <Mekkis> cleric works too
08:33:28 <Mekkis> if you're not going past level 6, fighter even works
08:33:39 <Steven> yeah, i dont know why his friends want to play 3.5 when they could play pfs
08:33:47 <Mekkis> or fighter/ranger/barbarian/horizon walker
08:34:24 <Mekkis> maybe they want a more story-like campaign with access to a larger resource pool?
08:34:45 <Steven> iunno
08:35:00 <Mekkis> PFS isn't for everyone...
08:35:17 <Mekkis> and you generally shouldn't play more than two sessions a month, on average
09:04:39 <Steven> at the local shop we play 8 times a month
09:05:06 <Sn0uu> ah
09:05:26 <Steven> but thats because we have a pretty healthy group with new people comming every year
09:10:02 <Steven> hey brunius... happy birthday
09:10:48 <Sn0uu> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
09:10:59 <Sn0uu> even tho u was mean 2 me :(
09:11:13 <Steven> you probably deserved it
09:12:55 <Sn0uu> jerk
09:13:05 <Sn0uu> you're all so mean! :'(
09:13:31 <Steven> its how i roll
09:16:59 <Sn0uu> anyone wanna play some D&D 2.5 with me? :)
09:22:51 * Steven pushes snouu out of a plane with no parachute.
09:25:43 * Sn0uu splats
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11:27:04 <Sn0uu> http://db.tt/xqCNoz2W
11:48:31 <Sn0uu> for thoes of you who don't have DB
12:36:34 <MekkisScreen> I have several databases
13:34:34 <Sn0uu> grats
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13:53:26 <Steven> hey
13:54:43 <Sn0uu> RAWR
13:54:49 <Sn0uu> don't ever get balance protector lol
13:54:52 <Sn0uu> goodnight
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15:55:35 <Brunius> 2.5?
15:55:40 <Brunius> I've never heard of 2.5
15:55:46 <Brunius> When was I mean to him?
16:04:41 <Steven> iunno
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16:15:50 <Brunius_> fucking games for windows live
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16:46:58 <N2H4> What do you get when a dragon sneezes?
16:49:34 <Brunius> less hobbit?
16:52:23 <N2H4> Out of the way.
16:54:40 <MekkisScreen> so.
16:54:59 <MekkisScreen> It has come to this.
16:55:06 <MekkisScreen> !feat Additional Traits
16:55:12 <diebot> MekkisScreen, ADDITIONAL TRAITS [] You have more traits than normal.
16:55:12 <diebot> Benefit: You gain two character traits of your choice (see Chapter 8). These traits must be chosen from different lists, and cannot be chosen from lists from which you have already selected a character trait. You must meet any additional qualifications for the character traits you choose. Source: APG
16:55:32 <MekkisScreen> so
16:55:54 <MekkisScreen> The Extra Trait boon: Does it let you take a second Magic Trait
17:00:46 <Steven> cannot be chosen from lists from which you have already selected a character trait
17:01:07 <MekkisScreen> is that what the Extra Trait boon says?
17:01:36 <Steven> i think the rules still apply
17:03:15 <MekkisScreen> can your familiar make your dayjob roll for you?
17:03:24 <MekkisScreen> or aid another on it?
17:06:04 <Ballig> it says that /you/ can't aid another, I think that might extend to your familiar too
17:06:14 <Steven> i dont believe anything is able to make it for you or assist you
17:11:46 <MekkisScreen> how can I increase my caster level?
17:12:44 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: want me to get you a copy of K&R for you for christmas?
17:13:32 <Brunius> K&R
17:13:34 <Brunius> ?
17:13:45 <MekkisScreen> google it
17:13:56 <Steven> Spell specialization
17:14:14 <MekkisScreen> !feat Spell Speciali%
17:14:14 <diebot> MekkisScreen, SPELL SPECIALIZATION []Prereq: Int 13, Spell Focus. Select one spell. You cast that spell with greater than normal power.
17:14:15 <diebot> Benefit: Select one spell of a school for which you have taken the Spell Focus feat. Treat your caster level as being two higher for all level-variable effects of the spell. Every time you gain an even level in the spellcasting class you chose your spell from, you can choose a new spell to replace the spell selected with this feat, and that
17:14:15 <diebot> spell becomes your specialized spell.
17:14:15 <diebot> Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a different spell. Source: UM
17:14:39 <MekkisScreen> that's cool
17:14:47 <Steven> yup, easy to get
17:14:59 <MekkisScreen> so I can cast a CL7 scorching ray at 3rd level :)
17:15:09 <Ballig> Samsuhn has that
17:15:21 <MekkisScreen> !find Samsuhn
17:15:21 <dicebot> MekkisScreen, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=281
17:16:34 <Steven> im freakin tired as hell.... this sucks
17:16:40 <MekkisScreen> ah
17:16:42 <Ballig> go to bed
17:16:44 <Steven> being sick during thanksgiving is so not cool
17:16:56 <MekkisScreen> Samsuhn's got less blank pages: only 39
17:20:09 <MekkisScreen> "When there's smoke there is fire, and where there is fire there are blacks, and where there are blacks there is water."
17:20:30 <MekkisScreen> -- Exploring in the 'seventies and the construction of the Overland Telegraph Line, p. 43
17:28:30 <Brunius> KR Multicase?
17:29:06 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: is that the first result you get when you search?
17:29:08 <MekkisScreen> for K&R
17:29:27 <MekkisScreen> search for K&R C then
17:30:40 <Brunius> The first result is a wikipedia disambiguation page.
17:30:53 <MekkisScreen> yeah
17:30:55 <MekkisScreen> and?
17:31:11 <MekkisScreen> I'm referring to the one that I could get you a copy of for christmas
17:42:49 <Brunius> I'd feel obliged to buy you stuff for christmas, if you're buying me stuff.
17:43:00 <Brunius> Or obtaining, at least.
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18:40:05 <Avatar> yooooooooo
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19:02:55 <Avatar> I have no idea what to do with my eidolon
19:03:50 <Ballig> don't use it
19:04:26 <Avatar> you have to?
19:04:35 <Avatar> is there a summoner that doesn't summon
19:04:39 <Avatar> except the one that's banned lolz
19:04:48 <Ballig> a summoner that uses summon monster instead
19:05:05 <Avatar> no the only appeal was making an eidolon
19:05:28 <Avatar> I could just use the same one as snake had
19:05:50 <Ballig> what eidolon was that
19:07:15 <Avatar> the serpent one that grabbed and constricted
19:07:44 <Ballig> yeah I know I was kidding
19:07:48 <Ballig> "what eidolon did Snake use?" "a snake"
19:08:01 <Avatar> ha ha
19:08:40 <Avatar> the problem is the quadruped and the biped don't really allow for much decent combat
19:08:46 <Avatar> and the aquatic one is just a swimmer
19:09:45 <Ballig> get an aquatic one
19:09:48 <Ballig> and carry an aquarium
19:10:18 <Avatar> it can still walk around, it just has a swim speed and only a 20ft speed
19:10:40 <Avatar> it's much like the serpentine one actually, except it's free evolutions are all water based
19:13:11 <Ballig> oh so it's amphibious
19:13:45 <Avatar> yeah
19:14:14 <Avatar> +4 AC is its big attraction
19:14:19 <Avatar> vs the other forms' +2
19:15:16 <Ballig> get Create Water, floor all dungeons before you enter
19:16:36 <Avatar> I don't think that will work
19:17:48 <Avatar> how much space does 2 gallons/level take up
19:18:42 <Avatar> 1 gallon is 0.13 cubic feet
19:19:10 <Avatar> so filling up a single square will take up quite a long time
19:20:00 <Avatar> 37.5 gallons required for one square
19:22:39 <Ballig> so you could fill up one square in two minutes
19:24:26 <Avatar> yeah about that
19:24:43 <Avatar> but water doesn't just sit in a square either, it would run across the ground
19:24:52 <Avatar> how many squares are in your typical completely-closed room
19:25:07 <Ballig> would take about 12 minutes to fill a "column" from the ground to a typical dungeon roof
19:27:46 <Ballig> about 315 squares in FS2
19:28:00 <Ballig> would take a bit under 3 days
19:36:32 <Avatar> does that include sleeping
19:36:59 <Ballig> it's like 2.6 days, so if you include sleep I bet you could do it in 3
19:37:31 <Avatar> you could just make do with the fatigued condition
19:37:40 <Avatar> what is it, fatigued then exhausted
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21:16:17 <Steven> i managed to sleep for a whole 3 hours
21:37:33 <Avatar> nice
21:46:26 <Mekkis> Avatar, are you sure that quadruped doesn't allow for decent combat?
21:46:36 <Mekkis> Perfection would like to take a lot of pieces out of you for that
21:49:28 <Avatar> what level is itzamna
21:49:33 <Mekkis> 8
21:49:41 <Avatar> righto, my summoner is level 1
21:49:52 <Mekkis> you GMed him through Quest for Perfection
21:49:58 <Mekkis> not level 2?
21:50:06 <Avatar> he's a rebuild from my ninja
21:50:46 <Mekkis> I thought you had heaps of First Steps credit
21:51:16 <Mekkis> Just get an aquatic eidolon with a Decanter of Endless Water
21:51:50 <Avatar> yeah he has first steps 1 and 3 on him
21:52:02 <Avatar> how fast does a decanter empty
21:52:39 <Mekkis> !item %Endless water
21:52:58 <Mekkis> !item %water
21:53:00 <diebot> Mekkis, DECANTER OF ENDLESS WATER [moderate transmutation] CL:9 none 9000gp, 2lb
21:53:01 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/decanter_of_endless_water.html
21:53:02 <diebot> Mekkis, SASH OF FLOWING WATER [moderate abjuration] CL:10 belt 25000gp, 1lb
21:53:02 <diebot> If this belt's wearer has at least one hand free (holding nothing), he can attempt to deflect a successful melee attack with an immediate action. To do so, he rolls an unarmed strike against the opponent, including any applicable modifiers such as a favored enemy bonus or the penalty for Power Attack. If his attack roll is greater than the
21:53:02 <diebot> opponent's attack roll, the attack is negated without effect. The unarmed strike itself causes no damage and does not count as a successful attack against the opponent. The opponent does not need to be within the wearer's reach to use this ability. Whether the attack succeeds or not, the wearer takes a -4 penalty on attack rolls until the end of
21:53:02 <diebot> his next turn.
21:53:26 <Mekkis> 30 gallons per round
21:53:58 <Avatar> 20ft long, 1ft wide
21:54:25 <Avatar> that would be bad even if I could afford the 9000gp for it
21:54:38 <Avatar> and could reliably make the strenth checks to hold a geyser
22:01:23 <Mekkis> but aquatic base form is probably the most flexible
22:06:30 <Avatar> you reckon
22:06:56 <Mekkis> yeah. It has high str, high natural armour, and already has Improved Nat armour
22:07:13 <Mekkis> leaving you more evolutions to take it in the direction you want
22:07:28 <Avatar> is improved nat armor figured into its AC stat
22:07:33 <Mekkis> no
22:08:25 <Mekkis> either way, you'll probably be taking Improved armour regardless
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22:09:56 <Avatar> serpentine gets +5 without improved and aquatic gets +6 with it
22:10:20 <Avatar> you're trading extra attacks and climb speed for gills and swim speed
22:11:05 <Mekkis> but what are the extra attacks?
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22:11:58 <Avatar> bite, tail slap
22:13:58 <Mekkis> doesn't the aquatic have bite
22:14:03 <Mekkis> also: higher str
22:17:39 <Steven> time to make my fetchling
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