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36:25 <Sn0uu> yo
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08:16 <Steven> what up guys
09:08 <Sn0uu> training
09:49 <Steven> what are you training
11:10 <Sn0uu> myself
11:44 <Sn0uu> for an @Home job
12:34 <Steven> prostitution?
30:53 <Sn0uu> u wish
30:58 <Sn0uu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=0abPx_cEtMg&NR=1
31:03 <Sn0uu> begining is the best
32:14 <Ballig> that's not training
34:41 <Sn0uu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JW5Ij_Apm4
34:42 <Sn0uu> ur right
37:40 <Steven> i got in on the playtest of the Pathfinder Cardgame
37:48 <Sn0uu> sweet
37:51 <Sn0uu> is it any good?
38:02 <Steven> dunno, we gonna play this sunday i think
43:17 <Sn0uu> cool
49:38 <Avatar> steven have you played portal of the sacred rune
49:55 <Steven> yes
50:23 <Steven> if you are trying to schedule a game i can play, dont bother, im going to be wicked busy till after dec 1st
50:54 <Steven> well dec 2nd actually
05:08 <Steven> dad has hernia surgery on tuesday and so ill be busy all week
05:17 <Steven> also... according to sam thats totaly my fault.
05:33 <Steven> cause she chewed my ass aboout how im not going to be home
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06:57 <Mort-> Hi all
07:16 <Mort-> Just in case anyone was worried i disappeared
09:07 <Steven> !rand mean nice
09:07 <dicebot> Steven, random: mean
09:17 <Steven> we werent worried at all
12:15 <Sn0uu> whats a good site to compare cell phones?
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13:15 <Mort-> Tashes hi
13:39 <Mort-> Sort of here early so i can help you if need
14:01 <Mort-> Don't wait till the last Minute for everything
14:04 <Sn0uu> hey mort!
14:06 <Mort-> Same for you hxdra
14:09 * Sn0uu hugs the rug
14:09 <Mort-> Hydra
14:17 <Mort-> I'm not a rug now
14:26 <Sn0uu> oh....
14:26 <Mort-> Avatar turned me back
14:29 <Sn0uu> ok...
14:34 <Sn0uu> can we still hug?
14:41 <Mort-> You can hug me. I'm fine with it
14:45 <Sn0uu> hurray! 
14:51 * Sn0uu hugs the normal Mort
15:06 <Mort-> But i have some business at hand and may thus be distracted
15:16 <Sn0uu> mk
15:32 * Mort- fluffs sn0uu first
16:26 <Sn0uu> o_O
16:48 <Mort-> Back
16:59 <Mort-> I blame bad hand phone typing
17:46 <Steven> man oh man... im feeling tired
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16:29 * Tashes_ rahs mortswishytail 
16:48 <mortswishytail> Sorry tashes
16:54 <mortswishytail> A little technical issues
17:11 <Tashes_> i can rah you anyway!
26:00 <Sn0uu> rawr
26:01 <Sn0uu> ?
26:15 <mortswishytail> Tashes i need you on skype
26:30 * Sn0uu is on skype ;)
26:31 <Steven> dont do it tashes.... its a trap
27:02 <Steven> dont do it snouu
27:03 <Steven> its a trap
27:20 <Sn0uu> ok?
27:43 <Steven> dont agree with me snouu its a trap
29:01 <Sn0uu> NEVER!
45:40 <Tashes_> Never agree with steven!
45:50 <Hydrazine> Even if hes right.
45:55 <Hydrazine> Especially if hes right.
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46:20 <Sn0uu> ok
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32:28 <Sn0uu> rable
32:37 <Ballig> rabble
33:01 <Brunius> rabbble
33:24 <Ballig> only one of them is a real word!
35:29 <Sn0uu> bitch bitch rebel rebel party party
36:29 <Sn0uu> ima play a game while i work :D
56:16 <fued_> yes
57:41 <Sn0uu> no
58:47 <fued_> fine dont play a game
59:41 <Sn0uu> NOOOOoooooooooooOO00000000000o
59:58 <Ballig> did you finish your training Sn0uu
05:24 <Sn0uu> see above
05:35 <Sn0uu> its a 30 dayish training
05:39 <Sn0uu> this is day 5 lol
05:46 <Ballig> what's the job
05:49 <Ballig> is it stuffing envelopes
05:53 <Sn0uu> nope
06:03 <Sn0uu> answering the phone for an unnamed cell phone company
06:12 <Ballig> did you have to pay for the training material
06:15 <Sn0uu> Hello, this is Sn0uu, how may I help you today?
06:26 <Ballig> is that how you answer it
06:37 <Sn0uu> Your bill is that high because you haven't paid it in about 4 months
07:09 <Ballig> is the training paid
07:11 <Sn0uu> Well unfortunatley it seems like your babies daddy didn't make that payment he said he would...
07:26 <Sn0uu> would you like to speak with our financial care department todaY? mk thx
07:34 <Sn0uu> yeah
07:37 <Sn0uu> its paid training
08:03 <Sn0uu> its legit lol
08:11 <fued_> callcenter?
08:15 <Sn0uu> basically
08:18 <Sn0uu> but @Home
08:21 <Sn0uu> which is sweet
08:29 <Sn0uu> but it sux cuz its still call center work
08:44 <Sn0uu> but it's not inbound... so...
09:03 <Ballig> how can it not be inbound
09:17 <fued_> its outbound?
09:25 <Ballig> you're calling random people to tell them about their bill?
09:26 <Sn0uu> er
09:26 <fued_> haha get ready to be screamed at all day long
09:28 <Sn0uu> i meant outbound
09:51 <Sn0uu> im distracted by this training...
10:03 <Sn0uu> did you guys know that you can get e-mails on your cell phone now?!?!?! AMAZING!
10:24 <Ballig> "Hello ma'am, my name is Sn0uu and I'm calling from <phone company>. Do you have a phone with us? No? Oh... do you know anyone who does? I'm trying to find someone with an oustanding bill. Anyone will do."
10:37 <Sn0uu> -_- "you have an hour and a half to go through these two training assignments about e-mail and instant messengers"
11:09 <fued_> just think, the majority of people doing this can probably barely understand all that lol
12:03 <Sn0uu> Steve is a busy sales guy who workd for an IT company. He has to travel a lot and wants an email solution which would allow him quick and easy access to his emails and internet. Which BlackBerry soloution would you recommend for him? "
12:23 <fued_> none
12:25 <Sn0uu> I typo'd and such
12:28 <fued_> because blackberry is terrible these days
12:33 <Ballig> I'd recommend a samsung galaxy
12:47 <Brunius> I recommend a Nokia C2-01
12:53 <fued_> even an iphone is better than blackberry these days
13:03 <Sn0uu> but its BB internet service, BB pro software, or BB Enterprise Server...
13:13 <Ballig> the only thing that "blackberry" has going for it is its reputation as a business phone
13:18 <Ballig> oh, you have a blackberry? it must be for /business/
13:26 <Sn0uu> lol
13:34 <Sn0uu> there was another training thing
13:44 <Sn0uu> where the girl wanted something for music and internet or something
13:49 <fued_> actually
13:50 <Sn0uu> and one of the options was a BB
13:59 <fued_> blackberry has one of the nicest game development engines
14:00 <Ballig> is that the option you chose
14:05 <fued_> they only just released it
14:29 <Sn0uu> and I would have actually recomeded it, so I chose it, and the training said that it was a bad choice since the BB is geared more towards business customers
14:44 <Sn0uu> that sux
16:05 <Sn0uu> but ya
16:12 <Sn0uu> I still have 30 mins
16:21 <Sn0uu> before I have to go back to the meeting room
16:42 <fued_> i might be hiring in a month or two lol
17:10 <Sn0uu> for what?
17:39 <Avatar> blackberries are a disaster
17:41 <fued_> designing a pathfinder based system for a pc game
18:02 <Avatar> fued don't design for blackberries
18:07 <fued_> yeah i do!
18:13 <Avatar> you want android or apple
18:22 <fued_> oh wait, i dont even bother even tho it would take me 1 hour or less lol
18:29 <Avatar> or if you want to cater to only mekkis, nokia
18:42 <fued_> microsoft nokia
20:56 <Sn0uu> i'd help
21:50 <Sn0uu> I love it
22:11 <fued_> its only if my kickstarter earns over a certain amount
22:15 <Sn0uu> more than half of the "assesments" have the word "clos" as an option to close things
22:21 <Sn0uu> ok still
22:23 <Sn0uu> i'll help lol
22:36 <Sn0uu> ur in US?
22:49 <fued_> i have a guy in england, and me/an artist in AUS
22:51 <Sn0uu> Im pretty sure it only allows US citizens :(
22:59 <fued_> allows uk now too
23:03 <Sn0uu> o nice
23:10 <Sn0uu> I'm Canadian tho -_-
23:21 <Sn0uu> at least I don't have any burning projects in mind
23:26 <fued_> its ok ey
23:29 <fued_> we can translate ey
23:31 <Sn0uu> eh*
23:35 <Sn0uu> EH*
23:38 <fued_> EH
23:41 <fued_> i apoligise
23:44 <Sn0uu> thx
23:49 <fued_> see im speaking canadian already eh
23:50 <Sn0uu> ya hoser
24:20 <Sn0uu> Amerkins are lazy spellers
24:27 <Sn0uu> dropping u's etc
24:31 <Sn0uu> like in "color" 
24:33 <Sn0uu> wtf
24:37 <Ballig> careful, Sn0uu will give you summer teeth
24:42 <Sn0uu> and changing cheque to check...
24:47 <Sn0uu> no, they're different words :p
24:56 <fued_> Maybe they just hate the letter U
25:20 <Sn0uu> :)
27:03 <Sn0uu> oh no
27:16 <Sn0uu> i scored 60% on a test of 5 questions and I need 80%
27:28 <Sn0uu> I'll just hit try again and it will still count as 1 attempt :)
28:34 <Sn0uu> oh look, 100%
30:25 <Sn0uu> u guys dont talk enough
31:01 <fued_> im working lol
31:20 <fued_> just putting the finishing touches on another game so i can focus on my kickstarter video
32:23 <Sn0uu> so do u actually make games for a living?
33:01 <fued_> yeah, quit my job as a web dev to start my own company
33:16 <fued_> got one game ready to release and another very close
33:27 <Sn0uu> dam
33:29 <Sn0uu> thats awesome
33:43 <Sn0uu> are you doing 100% KS?
34:06 <fued_> what do you mean 100%?
34:10 <fued_> oh\
34:14 <fued_> no im living off savings
34:23 <fued_> i just want to make a bigger game than what i have currently
34:30 <fued_> one i can spend 6+ months on
36:29 <Sn0uu> I mean
36:34 <Sn0uu> KS = KickStarter
36:46 <Sn0uu> and 100% I mean are you going to be putting every game/project on there
36:54 <fued_> nope just this game
37:00 <Avatar> good on you fued
37:01 <Sn0uu> ic, why just this one?
37:02 <Avatar> android or apple
37:22 <fued_> because i dont want to overflood kickstarter, and as soon as one game gets successfull i can finance the others myself
37:41 <Avatar> how old are you again
37:44 <fued_> android/apple/psvita/xbox/PC/mac/linux whatever really
37:45 <fued_> 28
37:59 <Sn0uu> PC whoot
38:03 <Avatar> oh I thought you were talking about the blackberry thing
38:18 <fued_> oh
38:27 <fued_> the blackberry one is massively multiplatform too
38:29 <Ballig> are the graphics for your game awesome
38:54 <Sn0uu> :P
39:00 <Sn0uu> do you have a demo you can show us?
39:08 <fued_> the one im working on now? yeah they are pretty cool, the first one? not so much, the new one? my artist only just got hired
39:35 <fued_> yeah lemme find a link to some screenshots
39:39 <Ballig> if I played your game and then I played Starcraft 2, would I say that Starcraft 2 was a piece of shit that I wouldn't even want to flush because it doesn't deserve to die quickly?
39:57 <fued_> i wasnt a fan of sc2
40:00 <fued_> so yes
40:05 <Ballig> I just mean graphics wise
40:22 <fued_> no lol
40:53 <Ballig> how much are you paying your artist
41:10 <fued_> $200 a week i think
41:34 <fued_> +royalties
42:07 <Ballig> $5 an hour?
42:24 <fued_> less
42:27 <fued_> lots less lol
42:37 <fued_> she works like crazy
42:40 <Ballig> he works more than 40 hour weeks?
42:45 <fued_> yeh
42:52 <fued_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w90lr9gcazxx5sl/ss7.png
42:52 <Ballig> sounds illegal!
42:53 <fued_> that was my first game
43:12 <Ballig> is it like Pong crossed with Worms
43:25 <fued_> tetris with water
43:50 <Sn0uu> nah, totally legal
43:55 <Ballig> you should redo the game, and have little worms fighting each other on the landscape the tetris blocks make
43:56 <Sn0uu> its called contract work
43:58 <Ballig> blowing each other (and the landscape) up
43:59 <fued_> retro NES style rpg with more modern gameplay
44:00 <fued_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qqru0y3t0x47gg/walkimg.png
44:06 <Sn0uu> thats capitalizim 4 ya
44:25 <Ballig> I thought you said Americans were lazy spellers
44:41 <Sn0uu> lol
45:17 <Sn0uu> neat
45:42 <fued_> my next one, artist hasnt started on this yet tho, so its all my art
45:48 <fued_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cyj1ov7jcr3bs6a/celshade.png
46:44 <Sn0uu> thats PF eh
46:49 <Sn0uu> im excited for it
46:51 <fued_> yeh
47:13 <fued_> its not as big and actiony and graphical as pfonline, but its going to be more tactical and hopefully more customisable
47:29 <Sn0uu> PF online?
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48:25 <fued_> yeah some other company is making a legitimate PF online game
48:40 <fued_> its still years away tho, so i dont mind
49:03 <Sn0uu> oh
49:19 <Sn0uu> i hope they don't rip you
49:47 <fued_> ive already contacted pazio, they think its a great idea, i just cant use the word "pathfinder" in my game anywhere
50:07 <fued_> not until they have had a closer inspection
50:34 <Sn0uu> weird
50:40 <Sn0uu> sounds... sketchy?
50:50 <fued_> legal reasons
51:04 <fued_> they arent willing to put thier trademark on a product until they are sure it is good
51:05 <Sn0uu> i mean that they want a closer inspection :p
51:25 <Sn0uu> like, whats to keep them from just taking your game kinda thing
51:39 <fued_> game ideas are worthless
51:48 <fued_> its execution thats priceless
51:57 <fued_> people keep trying to "sell" me game ideas lol
52:15 <fued_> everyone has thier own idea for an awesome game these days it seems
52:21 <fued_> especially iphone games
52:46 <Sn0uu> you're a programer right
52:55 <fued_> Yeah
53:04 <Sn0uu> why don't you turn the table on them and offer to program their great idea at crazy rates
53:11 <Sn0uu> most may say no
53:20 <Sn0uu> but if you can handle the work, you both win :p
53:23 <fued_> all say no
53:37 <Sn0uu> it doesn't hurt to offer thought right 
53:41 <fued_> "we can split the profits man! 50/50! my design, your work!"
53:49 <Sn0uu> heh
54:02 <Sn0uu> gotta love that
54:09 <fued_> i usually tell them to make a 50 page document about thier idea and why it will be awesome then come back to me
54:11 <fued_> never had someone come back to me
54:37 <Sn0uu> if i had the motivation I wish I had...
54:41 <Sn0uu> I'd get you that report lol
54:50 <Sn0uu> and just for the lolz
55:08 <fued_> and i would file it aside next to the 13 i have written up for myself :P
56:43 <fued_> lemme see what have i got in here, submarine terraria adventure game, simcity type game where you run a school on facebook, space adventure like star control, space adventure more like FTL, dogracing for facebook, stretchy goo game for iphone, tilt drunkman walking for mobile, a basic moba using mechs
56:59 <fued_> the 3 i showed screenshots of
57:04 <fued_> hmm only 11
57:08 <fued_> thought i had 13
02:53 <Sn0uu> fail
04:21 <Sn0uu> :p
04:23 <Sn0uu> ok
04:27 <Sn0uu> done work till Tues
04:39 <Sn0uu> well... except my part-time driver job lol
04:43 <fued_> woo
04:59 <fued_> ive only got another 10 hours of work left today lol
05:09 <Sn0uu> what u doin?
05:33 <fued_> at the moment, making modifications to a scripting tool that i am using in the NES style game
05:53 <fued_> after that, I am rewriting/reading the script for my kickstarter video
06:08 <fued_> and finally i will be setting up the initiative system in the PF game
06:32 <fued_> oh theres also a movement bug in the NES style game i want to fix up sometime today
06:47 <Sn0uu> fun
06:56 <Sn0uu> y all today? personal deadline?
07:12 <fued_> because i spent most the day  yesterday playing LoL
07:16 <fued_> and im behind ahaha
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24:34 <Sn0uu> ic
28:54 <Sn0uu> SONA OP
40:50 <fued_> cho gath is my cho wrath
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45:39 <Hydrazine> League is too distracting sometimes.
45:43 <Hydrazine> You just gotta dunk that teemo.
46:05 <fued_> nomnom as cho
46:19 <Hydrazine> I was trololol singed yesterday.
46:46 <Hydrazine> the enemy team didn't even touch me in teamfights. you know how that ends up.
47:24 <fued_> yeh
47:45 <fued_> ruined king blade should stop that soon tho\
48:07 <Hydrazine> Is it converting to general item list and not just TT?
56:30 <fued_> yeh
56:33 <fued_> replacing madreds
56:48 <Hydrazine> Hmmm.
57:00 <Hydrazine> I think I agree; Madred's is kinda stupid right now.
57:13 <fued_> FoN is being removed too
57:21 <Hydrazine> I already heard about FoN. I'll miss it.
57:54 <Hydrazine> My usual amumu runs around with Mercs, FH, FoN..
58:13 <Hydrazine> Whatever I build next depends on the setup, but by that point its pretty solid.
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28:02 <fued_> might just get gold by the time seasons tick over
28:05 <fued_> didnt play much ranked so i need to rush it haha
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50:43 <tashphones> Puppypuppypuppy
50:53 <tashphones> Woke me up by chewing my hair...
51:00 <Hydrazine> How charming.
51:20 <tashphones> Yet somehow adorabus 
54:39 <Ballig> well it is 4pm
56:07 <Mekkis> need to buy a hdd
56:10 <Mekkis> or two
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16:23 <Brunius> Why
26:39 <Ballig> so he can throw them at his neighbours when they make too much noise at 1am
26:11 <Avatar> I reckon feats need some sort of feat value
26:30 <Avatar> so you could take more than one per two levels in some cases
26:33 <fued_> standardised "tiers" of feats?
26:33 <Avatar> some of them are so situational
26:40 <Avatar> yeah
27:03 <Avatar> so you'd get 5 feat points when you get to choose a feat
27:23 <Avatar> a great feat would cost you 5 feat points, but a super situational one would cost you 1 or 2 and you could choose one or two more feats
27:31 <Avatar> or 5 shitty situational ones
28:08 <fued_> or all the situational ones could be buffed
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29:03 <Hydrazine> I agree with Fued's plan, I rather have the feat itself be the standard of measurement, with them being more similar in power.
30:49 <Ballig> yeah there's already a fairly standard "that's as powerful as a feat" in place
30:54 <Ballig> but you look at some feats and know how shit they are
31:17 <Ballig> which is okay when they're used as pre-requisites for super feats that are better than regular feats
31:51 <Avatar> but some aren't
32:11 <Avatar> for some you need pre-req feats that are better than their later feats
32:17 <Mekkis> like Improved Trip for instance?
32:17 <Ballig> yeah, they should be better
32:22 <Avatar> I was looking at Unseat
32:57 <Mekkis> Unseat's a "super-feat" or a super situational one?
33:08 <Avatar> situational
33:17 <Avatar> only usable vs people riding mounts
33:19 <Ballig> I wish Bobbob's wolf could get improved trip
33:39 <Avatar> requires power attack, improved bull rush and other shit
33:45 <Hydrazine> and mounted combat.
34:15 <Avatar> and str 13, and ride, and bab +1
34:19 <Hydrazine> to be fair I think atleast two of those are standard issue for charging with a lance to begin with.
34:24 <Avatar> that feat would cost 1 feat point
34:56 <Ballig> I think all NPCs should have it
35:07 <Ballig> it should be a standard-issue NPC feat: Unseat
35:36 <Hydrazine> you need 13 str and +1 bab to get power attack anyway. superfluous requirements.
35:48 <Mekkis> what about Spirited Charge?
36:11 <Brunius> You mean like Improved Initiative
36:30 <Avatar> improved initiative would be maybe 4 
36:51 <Ballig> is 5 a "standard power" feat?
36:56 <Mekkis> how many points would Heirloom Weapon be worth?
37:08 <Hydrazine> trait, not a feat, Mekkis.
37:11 <Ballig> that's a trait
37:11 <Hydrazine> apples and oranges!
37:19 <Ballig> oranges and tomatoes!
37:29 <Mekkis> how much would Additional Traits be worth?
37:30 <Brunius> potatoes and potatoes!
37:42 <Ballig> that's meta
37:55 <Hydrazine> Depends on the traits.
37:57 <Avatar> additional traits would probably be 5
38:01 <Avatar> if in doubt, it's 5
38:10 <Avatar> power attack would be 5
38:16 <Avatar> point blank shot would be 5
38:20 <Mekkis> why wouldn't you just make traits feats with low costings?
38:26 <Brunius> Such a system could be interesting if you were 'bidding' for a limited number
38:27 <Mekkis> skill focus?
38:38 <Brunius> Sort of like in Amber RPG
38:46 <Avatar> because 2.5 points would get silly
38:58 <Mekkis> multiply everything by 2 then
39:03 <Ballig> why would it get silly
39:04 <Mekkis> 10 points for power attack
39:10 <Mekkis> 5 points for Armour Expert
39:21 <Mekkis> 10 points for Improved Initiative
39:23 <Avatar> easier to say 5 points for additional traits and to keep integers
39:29 <Mekkis> 5 points for Reactionary
39:39 <Ballig> 8 points for improved initiative
39:44 <Brunius> You think reactionary is that good?
39:45 <Mekkis> ah
39:48 <Mekkis> no
39:53 <Mekkis> but a lot of people do
39:57 <Avatar> I don't think that would work because you could get feats unintentionally that way, I think
40:10 <Ballig> how do you "get feats unintentionally"
40:24 <Hydrazine> could you save the extra fractions then?
41:07 <Hydrazine> Lets say you want a 8 point feat and don't want any 2s. could you get 2 6's in two levels?
41:21 <Avatar> I'm thinking of "strong traits" and "weak traits" and mixing it up with feats
41:25 <Avatar> I don't know, it might work
41:57 <Avatar> pre-reqs for traits are a little different though, they're not feats
42:40 <Ballig> why are you combining traits and feats
43:06 <Avatar> that's what we're talking about
43:12 <Avatar> mekkis brought up additional traits
44:14 <Hydrazine> and the thought that if traits are really just weak ass feats, and we're discussing a way to account for weak feats, why not combine them?
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44:42 <Ballig> I think he just said why not have points for traits too
44:42 <Ballig> not necessarily why not make traits purchasable with the points you use for feats
45:09 <Ballig> maybe that's what he did mean, if so I think that's complicating it too much
45:16 <Hydrazine> <Mekkis> why wouldn't you just make traits feats with low costings?
46:17 <Avatar> I'd actually say the traits are pretty well balanced
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54:01 <Mekkis> I think the bigger problem is that scenario writers tend to choose feats that work really well in the one combat that the NPC is going to be fighting in
54:59 <Avatar> that isn't a problem
55:10 <Hydrazine> And so the situational feats are notably more effective for NPCs than players?
55:20 <Mekkis> remind me to run more goodall scenarios for you, Avatar 
55:47 <Avatar> yeah I will put that on my todo list
56:12 <Brunius> Mekkis: Run more Goodall scenarios for us
56:21 <Mekkis> would you play in them?
56:25 <Avatar> Brunius: run more scenarios for us
56:35 <Brunius> Mekkis: Sure, why not.
56:46 <Brunius> It will be !!{FUN}!!
56:58 <Mekkis> I've got Cult of Ebon Destroyers prepped
57:02 <Brunius> After exams, Avatar
57:05 <Mekkis> if you've got a PC between 7 and 9
57:17 <Mekkis> and I could get Wrath of the Accursed ready too
57:18 <Brunius> Max level 6
57:20 <Brunius> (Kaleb, Bairaq)
57:30 <Mekkis> that's a 7-11
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08:01 <Mekkis> play a Vow of Silence monk
11:20 <Mekkis> can you flurry with a quarterstaff as a two-handed weapon?
15:42 <Hydrazine> I think the correct legal answer is no,.
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19:51 <Steven> im back.... prepare to be underwhelmed
20:36 <Steven> there is no correct legal answer because the law is variable across the globe
21:13 <Steven> what we talking about?
21:20 <Mekkis> either, Steven, you caught some of that, and are deliberately taking it out of context...
21:33 <Mekkis> or you're really good at coming up with something that somehow fits in
21:35 <Hydrazine> If its legal to kill you.
21:39 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> can you flurry with a quarterstaff as a two-handed weapon?
21:39 <Mekkis> <Hydrazine> I think the correct legal answer is no,.
22:00 <Steven> a quarterstaff is a double weapon
22:39 <Hydrazine> I think all the double weapons can be used as a two handed weapon.
23:24 <Steven> yes but i think while flurrying its only available mode is as a double weapon
23:58 <Hydrazine> So what you're saying is.
24:03 <Hydrazine> You agree with my answer.
24:52 <Steven> i agree with nothing
25:11 <Steven> but only because i want to be an obstruction to this conversation
25:38 <Steven> i believe it was covered in a forum thread a while ago though
25:59 <Mekkis> so. Mythic Adventures Playtest.
26:08 <Mekkis> I hope there's nothing PFS legal in there
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31:52 <Avatar> <?help
32:00 <Avatar> what's the command to look up a spell
33:59 <Avatar> !findspell magic missile
34:06 <Avatar> <?findspell magic missile
01:07 <Avatar> teamwork feats would never be worth 5 feat points
10:45 <N2H4> !spell magic missile
10:45 <diebot> N2H4, MAGIC MISSILE evocation ([force]) sorcerer/wizard 1, magus 1 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yes
10:45 <diebot> A missile of magical energy darts forth from your fingertip and strikes its target, dealing 1d4+1 points of force damage.  The missile strikes unerringly, even if the target is in melee combat, so long as it has less than total cover or total concealment.  Specific parts of a creature can't be singled out. Objects are not damaged by the spell.  For
10:45 <diebot> every two caster levels beyond 1st, you gain an additional missile-two at 3rd level, three at 5th, four at 7th, and the maximum of five missiles at 9th level or higher. If you shoot multiple missiles, you can have them strike a single creature or several creatures. A single missile can strike only one creature. You must designate targets before you
10:45 <diebot> check for spell resistance or roll damage.
13:21 <Avatar> :o)
37:54 <N2H4> today I learned that there are birds smart enough to use bread crumbs to bait fish.
48:36 <Avatar> I reckon birds are actually quite underrated
55:40 <Mekkis> noone underrates Ari
56:23 <Mekkis> !spell mending
56:24 <diebot> Mekkis, MENDING transmutation ([]) bard 0, cleric 0, druid 0, sorcerer/wizard 0, summoner 0, witch 0, summoner 0, witch 0 10 minutes Range: 10 ft. Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)
56:25 <diebot> This spell repairs damaged objects, restoring 1d4 hit points to the object. If the object has the broken condition, this condition is removed if the object is restored to at least half its original hit points. All of the pieces of an object must be present for this spell to function. Magic items can be repaired by this spell, but you must have a
56:25 <diebot> caster level equal to or higher than that of the object. Magic items that are destroyed (at 0 hit points or less) can be repaired with this spell, but this spell does not restore their magic abilities. This spell does not affect creatures (including constructs). This spell has no effect on objects that have been warped or otherwise transmuted, but
56:25 <diebot> it can still repair damage done to such items.
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37:19 <Avatar> where has kapow been lately
37:21 <Avatar> did he pull a sushi
39:18 <Mekkis> he was a Ace last night
39:34 <Mekkis> he plays at Spring Hill every Wednesday
39:43 <Mekkis> he actually ran something last fortnight
40:45 <Avatar> !recentsheets
40:47 <diebot> Avatar, Nov 4 00:06 289 Mort
40:47 <diebot> Avatar, Nov 3 00:06 269 Bobbob
40:48 <diebot> Avatar, Oct 21 00:08 443 Sargon
40:48 <diebot> Avatar, Oct 21 00:07 431 Gustav
40:48 <diebot> Avatar, Oct 21 00:07 379 Sparky
40:48 <Brunius> ie He's ditched you guys for real life
43:11 <Avatar> Brunius: we are real life
43:26 <Brunius> Wake up Avatar
43:29 <Brunius> Take the red pill
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45:00 <Brunius> Steven: Avatar is stuck in the matrix
55:39 <Mekkis> !history 269
55:42 <diebot> Mekkis, r38 | vpsirc | 2012-11-03 00:08:34 -0400 (Sat, 03 Nov 2012) | 1 line
55:42 <diebot> Mekkis, r3 | initial load | 2012-07-21 00:05:09 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
55:46 <Mekkis> :o
56:02 <Mekkis> !diff 269 r1
56:04 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/269r1.txt
56:12 <Mekkis> !diff 269 r3
56:14 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/269r3.txt
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57:49 <Mekkis> bobbob seems poor
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58:52 <Mekkis> ??35AC
59:20 <Mekkis> ??35AC
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31:01 <Avatar>  If your character later takes levels in another 
31:02 <Avatar> class, she gains the amount indicated in the Hit Dice 
31:02 <Avatar> column for all levels in that class, including 1st level.
31:05 <Avatar> can anyone explain to me what this means
31:30 <Avatar> it refers to table 2-2 with the hp listed for each class, from the PFS guide
33:32 <Mekkis> I'll have a look
33:54 <Mekkis> oh, and you should hassle Balls about muleback cords on mounts
34:10 <Avatar> what
35:19 <Mekkis> basically, Avatar, that paragraph means what you think it means
35:39 <Avatar> I don't understand what it means
36:03 <Avatar> hence my asking for an explanation
36:09 <Avatar> did you think I was testing you
36:09 <Mekkis> if you're multiclassing, for each level except your character's first level, you use the fourth column
36:47 <Avatar> but it says including 1st level
37:00 <Mekkis> I thought you thought you'd found a loophole that would allow my barbarian 1/fighter 1/cavalier 1/ranger 1/samarai 1 to have heaps of HP
37:18 <Mekkis> you don't get the "Hit points at 1st level" multiple times
37:42 <Avatar> so how does it work
37:43 <Mekkis> even if you're taking your first level of fighter after taking a level of barbarian
37:54 <Avatar> not the way you said it because that directly contradicts what it says
38:00 <Mekkis> ?
38:21 <Avatar> it says including 1st level, you say except 1st level
38:49 <Mekkis> character's first leven
38:50 <Mekkis> level
38:54 <Mekkis> not class first level
39:39 <Mekkis> so a barbarian 1 / fighter 1 would have 12+6(+con+favoured class)HP, not 12+10
39:56 <Avatar> what about a fighter 1 / barbarian 1
40:06 <Mekkis> 10+7
40:37 <Avatar> I can't see how that is reflected in that rule
41:36 <Mekkis> Pathfinder Society characters begin play with a set number of hit points and gain a specific number of hit points each time the character gains a level. Consult Table 2–2 to find the appropriate values for your character.
41:46 <Mekkis> so a Fighter 1 would start with 10 HP
42:10 <Mekkis> . If your character later takes levels in another class, she gains the amount indicated in the Hit Dice column for all levels in that class, including 1st level.
42:40 <Mekkis> so when the fighter takes a level in barbarian, rather than getting 12hp, she only gets 7.
43:10 <Avatar> wait I think I get it
43:16 <Avatar> it's a very confusing way to word the rule
43:27 <Avatar> if you take another class at a certain level, you get that level's hp 
43:41 <Avatar> including 1st level, which is never going to be 'another class'
43:52 <Mekkis> You get maximum HP for your first level.
44:06 <Avatar> yeah for that first class
44:14 <Mekkis> For your first Character level
44:25 <Avatar> that's the same thing
44:32 <Mekkis> For each subsequent level, you take average, rounded up.
44:58 <Mekkis> Yes, it is the same thing, but Character Level is the "correct" terminology
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