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58:59 <Avatar> :o)
02:23 <Avatar> I use dropbox
02:39 <Avatar> tetsu gave me a chronicle via dropbox
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42:47 <Sn0uu> So...
42:54 <Sn0uu> I looked online for how to get a dice bot
42:56 <Sn0uu> it doesn't work
18:38 <N2H4> http://rolz.org/?p=group
21:15 <N2H4> Huh. I think it'll even do dice for deadlands or exalted.
24:19 <Sn0uu> 10, 5, 19, 12, 19, 15, 20! :d
24:36 <N2H4> 7 numbers?
24:59 <Sn0uu> yeah why not
25:25 <N2H4> I figured you were doing something reasonable like rolling base stats.
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20:29 <Sn0uu> How do I join another server?
20:34 <Sn0uu> I'm using mIRC
23:09 <Sn0uu> -_-
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42:59 <Avatar> nosratheno
43:13 <nosratheno> yo
43:45 <N2H4> Aussie Aussie Aussie!
44:05 <Avatar> cmon
44:13 <nosratheno> lol
44:27 <nosratheno> i dont enjoy being compelled :P
45:06 <Avatar> props for trying though
47:18 <nosratheno> its a bit like voting...
48:03 <Ballig> you don't like being compelled to vote?
48:14 <nosratheno> correct
48:23 <Avatar> neither do I
48:26 <Avatar> I forgot to vote last time I had to
49:57 <Ballig> yeah I don't like voting either
50:01 <Ballig> I just choose random people to vote for
50:13 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p663?Shoes-of-Lightning-Leaping-Must-move-50ft-or
50:22 <Avatar> everybody thinks up to 50 feet, not only 50 feet
50:34 <Avatar> to the point of mockery
51:04 <Ballig> I don't agree with them
51:39 <Avatar> seems you're the only one
51:41 <Ballig> it makes the entire second-last sentence worthless if you can choose to move 5 feet with them
51:47 <Ballig> I'm the only one out of like 4 people? :p
52:01 <Avatar> 6 people, 8 if you include me and mekkis
52:21 <Ballig> it's 6 if you include you and Mekkis
52:42 <Avatar> two people favourited the one that said "is this post serious? it couldn't be clearer"
53:05 <Ballig> er
53:09 <Ballig> quite possibly the other people in the thread, man
53:22 <Avatar> click on it, they didn't post
53:33 <Avatar> you can see who it was
53:55 <Ballig> and regardless of how many people think that, I still don't agree with them
54:04 <Ballig> at best what you've got is the likelihood that you probably wont' have to argue with many GMs about it
54:13 <Ballig> but you'll have to argue with at least one
56:15 <Avatar> post your thoughts if you're that adamant
56:35 <Ballig> I don't care enough to convince strangers
56:40 <Ballig> they have their opnion I have mine
56:53 <nosratheno> Do i need skype for sunday ?
57:24 <Avatar> bit shit if 8 people won't convince you your interpretation is likely wrong and you won't even argue it
57:25 <nosratheno> sundays game that is
57:38 <Avatar> you will need skype
57:44 <nosratheno> ok
57:48 <Ballig> there are plenty of things that 8 people wouldnt' convince you otherwise of
57:59 <Ballig> 8 people in the street could stop me and tell me my religious beliefs are wrong too, but why do I care what they think?
58:00 <nosratheno> and pardon the ignorance
58:06 <Ballig> I have my opinion, they have theirs
01:20 <nosratheno> Having never played PF (and only a little 3.5 a long time ago) should I play a Fighter or Cleric. I guess fighter is easier..but I use to enjoy playing healers in WoW 
01:39 <Ballig> clerics are fairly easy to play
01:46 <nosratheno> ok
03:11 <nosratheno> not looking to minmax, and i guess its not 100% complete but this is what i have: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=550
03:40 <Avatar> the thing to know about healers in pfs is that there are lots of classes who are healers, and there are a couple of classes that are super healers
03:49 <Avatar> and sometimes a healer is enough
04:23 <nosratheno> fair enough
04:52 <Avatar> occasionally it's not, though
05:14 <Ballig> would've loved a cleric or someone who could channel in our last game
05:39 <nosratheno> ;)
07:57 <nosratheno> as long as it looks like im headed in the right direction..for a general healer
07:59 <N2H4> Pssh. Clerics shmerics.
08:12 <nosratheno> :P
08:14 <N2H4> Life oracles, thats where the money is.
08:27 <nosratheno> I've only got the core rulebook
08:27 <nosratheno> one
08:57 <Ballig> don't listen to N2H4, he's a minmaxer
09:00 <nosratheno> lol
09:34 <N2H4> And Rabble isn't just as bad?
10:41 <Ballig> he's a dumpstat, I wouldn't necessarily say minmax
10:42 <Ballig> he has too many flaws to be minmax
10:49 <N2H4> And which of mine don't?
10:59 <Ballig> all of them !
11:15 <N2H4> Thats the thing about min/maxing. Deciding which flaws are acceptable in order to be really strong at something.
11:49 <N2H4> Pssh. Hoku's useless about half the time. Nearis is useless most of the time.
12:23 <N2H4> Lyta barely does anything, and anybody with color spray beats Fork and Spork both.
13:05 <N2H4> I think Jerus was really my best attempt at true min/maxing, and he died anyway.
14:17 <Ballig> colour spray beats everybody
14:19 <Ballig> until about level 3
14:55 <N2H4> Then that says more about color spray than classes doesn't it?
18:01 <Ballig> yes
18:07 <Ballig> colour spray is absolutely overpowered at low levels
22:58 <Ballig> ha nice, this agency has a policy that you can't leave the workplace to smoke except on scheduled meal breaks
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58:32 <Ballig> Sn0uu: /server -m <serveraddress>
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10:10 <Steven> this day is battin a 1000
38:29 <Avatar> Mekkis: almost forgot to schedule your game
38:33 <Avatar> emails sent now
45:21 <Mekkis> Sn0uu, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/diebot-bones-release20110704.tar.bz2
48:48 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 24th 10am (tier 3-7,Mekkis) / Sun 25th 11am (tier 1-2 module,Caleth) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au 
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50:45 <Avatar> even without glibness I can get people to believe almost anything
51:00 <Mekkis> !spell glibness
51:01 <diebot> Mekkis, GLIBNESS transmutation ([]) bard 3 1 standard action Range: personal Duration: 10 min./level Save:  SR:
51:01 <diebot> Your speech becomes fluent and more believable, causing those who hear you to believe every word you say. You gain a +20 bonus on Bluff checks made to convince another of the truth of your words. This bonus doesn't apply to other uses of the Bluff skill, such as feinting in combat, creating a diversion to hide, or communicating a hidden message via
51:01 <diebot> innuendo.  If a magical effect is used against you that would detect your lies or force you to speak the truth, the user of the effect must succeed on a caster level check (1d20 + caster level) against a DC of 15 + your caster level to succeed. Failure means the effect does not detect your lies or force you to speak only the truth.
51:09 <Mekkis> only +20
51:15 <Mekkis> wasn't it +30 in 3.5
51:19 <Avatar> yeah
51:26 <Avatar> I guess they thought +30 was too powerful
51:35 <Mekkis> you forced my PC to restart!
51:43 <Avatar> really? how
51:48 <Mekkis> no idea
51:56 <Avatar> I don't think that was me
52:17 <Mekkis> [06:46:09] she learnt about how you are an unreliable party member
52:23 <Mekkis> that caused it!
52:29 <Mekkis> you h4x0r!
52:39 <Avatar> she learnt about how you are an unreliable party member
53:15 <Mekkis> it's called "leading by example"
53:33 <Mekkis> "Holy shit, run away!" followed by running away
53:53 <Avatar> it's called "leaving your glass cannons to die"
54:06 <Mekkis> you could have run away too
54:12 <Avatar> I wasn't ready
54:50 <Mekkis> how so? you had actions that would have been better used by running away
55:08 <Avatar> if you'd waited a round I might have been able to get 2 prestige
55:17 <Avatar> instead of almost dying
56:23 <Avatar> 36 bluff really is overkill isn't it, I'm not misreading anything
56:34 <Avatar> an impossible lie is only -20 to the modifier
56:43 <Mekkis> it was your choice between 1 prestige and -16 prestige
57:10 <Avatar> yeah, after you screwed me
57:33 <Mekkis> don't do a hitomi
59:17 <Brunius> Avatar: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/schedule.php5?id=85
59:22 <Brunius> Spot the problem.
59:25 <Avatar> what is a hitomi
59:59 <Mekkis> you've declined!
00:04 <Mekkis> putting your faction before the Society
00:07 <Ballig> wrong GM
00:36 <Avatar> the society would've been fine either way
00:59 <Mekkis> true
01:08 <Mekkis> they don't particularly care if you die
01:45 <Avatar> yeah +36 to bluff is too much
02:17 <Avatar> I put in the right GM
02:22 <Avatar> and it's not letting me change it now
03:44 <Mekkis> time to paint a mini
06:02 <Steven> super bored....
06:07 <Steven> and my car has a flat tire
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07:50 <Avatar> !item broom of flying
07:51 <diebot> Avatar, BROOM OF FLYING [moderate transmutation] CL:9 none 17000gp, 3lb
07:51 <diebot> This broom is able to fly through the air as if affected by an overland flight spell (+4 on Fly skill checks) for up to 9 hours per day (split up as its owner desires). The broom can carry 200 pounds and fly at a speed of 40 feet, or up to 400 pounds at a speed at 30 feet. In addition, the broom can travel alone to any destination named by the
07:51 <diebot> owner as long as she has a good idea of the location and layout of that destination. It flies to its owner from as far away as 900 feet when she speaks the command word. The broom of flying has a speed of 40 feet when it has no rider.
07:58 <Avatar> !item winged boots
07:58 <diebot> Avatar, WINGED BOOTS [moderate transmutation] CL:8 feet 16000gp, 1lb
07:58 <diebot> These boots appear to be ordinary footgear. On command, they sprout wings at the heel and let the wearer fly, without having to maintain concentration, as if affected by a fly spell (including a +4 bonus on Fly skill checks). The wearer can fly three times per day for up to 5 minutes per flight.
08:59 <Avatar> broom is better just because it's slotless? 
09:30 <Avatar> it even flies slower, 40ft instead of 60ft
09:33 <Steven> i like the carpets of flying
09:51 <Avatar> why get a carpet when you can get either of these
10:24 <Mekkis> Avatar, two things: class
10:31 <Mekkis> and the fact that it's permanent
13:28 <Steven> yeah carpet can be loaded with more than one person so long as they dont exceed 400lbs
14:37 <Mekkis> I still prefer flying mouuunts
14:43 <Mekkis> mounts even
15:02 <Mekkis> does a carpet cost actions?
15:45 <Avatar> doesn't seem to
15:55 <Steven> a command word to activate
16:07 <Steven> and then i would assume a free action to direct
16:25 <Avatar> why would you ever deactivate it
16:27 <Steven> since walter and kyle were talking about how cool it was to move and full round
16:46 <Steven> high winds
17:03 <Avatar> I've always been really miffed that I needed a standard action to use the flight hex and then only had a move action remaining
17:53 <Steven> imma go play some video gaqmes
17:56 <Mekkis> !item carpet of flying
18:13 <Mekkis> !item carpet, flying
18:21 <Mekkis> !item flying%carpet
19:17 <Mekkis> !item %carpet%
19:18 <diebot> Mekkis, CARPET OF FLYING 5-FT.-BY-5-FT. [moderate transmutation] CL:10 none 20000gp, 8lb
19:18 <diebot> This rug is able to fly through the air as if affected by an overland flight spell of unlimited duration. The size, carrying capacity, and speed of the different carpets of flying are shown on the table below. Beautifully and intricately made, each carpet has its own command word to activate it-if the device is within voice range, the command word
19:18 <diebot> activates it, whether the speaker is on the rug or not. The carpet is then controlled by spoken directions.  SIZE CAPACITY SPEED WeightPrice 5-ft.-by-5-ft. 200 lbs. 40 ft. 8 lbs. 20,000 gp  5-ft.-by-10-ft. 400 lbs. 40 ft. 10 lbs. 35,000 gp  10-ft.-by-10-ft. 800 lbs. 40 ft. 15 lbs. 60,000 gp  A carpet of flying can carry up to double its capacity,
19:18 <diebot> but doing so reduces its speed to 30 feet. A carpet of flying can hover without making a Fly skill check and gives a +5 bonus to other Fly checks.
19:55 <Mekkis> ugh
20:21 <Mekkis> "The carpet is then controlled by spoken directions"
20:33 <Mekkis> does that mean it uses move actions?
20:38 <Mekkis> or free?
20:58 <Avatar> I imagine it's like a horse
20:59 <Steven> too bad the carpet cant be effected by ant haul
21:47 <Avatar> so 40ft speed with the carpet and then you can full round
21:57 <Steven> yup
22:15 <Mekkis> I'd like to imagine that, but it's not clear
22:27 <Avatar> how else would you read it
23:07 <Steven> well the VC and VL of Washington were talking about how thats how they interpreted it
23:27 <Mekkis> that it effectively gives you a fly speed
23:29 <Steven> standard to activate carpet, free action to direct it
23:50 <Steven> yeah, save that you can be knocked off of it
24:09 <Mekkis> the fact that it "gives a +5 bonus to other Fly checks" could be interpreted as that
38:04 <N2H4> I disagree with the movement via mount/broom/carpet and then full round attack.
38:33 <N2H4> The problem is that even if you aren't moving under your own power, if you spend half the round too far to attack, you can't do a full round attack.
42:37 <Avatar> we're assuming you can get into range of attack obviously
43:03 <Avatar> oh I see what you mean
43:10 <Avatar> you're usually allowed to do that on a horse though
44:14 <Steven> yeah, and you should totes be able to do some crazy shit for 20k bill
44:38 <N2H4> Wrong, Avatar.
45:09 <Avatar> got a rule?
45:37 <N2H4> Combat while Mounted
45:37 <N2H4> With a DC 5 Ride check, you can guide your mount with your knees so as to use both hands to attack or defend yourself. This is a free action.
45:37 <N2H4> When you attack a creature smaller than your mount that is on foot, you get the +1 bonus on melee attacks for being on higher ground. If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only make a single melee attack. Essentially, you have to wait until the mount gets to your enemy before attacking, so you can't make a full attack. Even at your mount's full speed, you don't take any penalty on melee attacks while mounted.
48:00 <N2H4> Since the explaination is that you have to wait for the mount to get there first, even though its not explicitly stated I would say taking your horse in a tight circle around the enemy, never going more than attack distance away, would be a valid situation for a full attack.
48:40 <Avatar> that does seem explicitly stated
48:50 <Avatar> you can only make a single melee attack
49:33 <N2H4> It doesn't make any exception for the possibily of circling the enemy.
50:13 <N2H4> But you can argue that it explicitly states your mount can't move more than 5' and still allow you to full attack. Fair enough, even if I don't like it.
50:43 <N2H4> I think allowing circling is reasonable and not against RAI, but thats me.
53:16 <Avatar> yeah makes sense, but it's very much a house rlue
53:18 <Avatar> rule*
00:09 <Steven> jesus.... being single sucks... my room mates are sleeping and im bored as hell
01:11 <Mekkis> there's a feat that allows you to make a full attack after your mount moves
01:20 <Mekkis> a ranger with the mounted path can get it at level 10
01:25 <Steven> pounce?
02:33 <N2H4> Is it actually effective before 4 attacks a round?
02:55 <Steven> i dont think it is as good as spirited charge+lance
03:16 <N2H4> Itn't 4 attacks from BAB the  cutoff?
03:38 <Avatar> gloves of shaping are pretty sexy, permanent stone shaping
03:40 <N2H4> at 3 and less, you can get equal damage from a spirited charge+lance, correct?
04:02 <Mekkis> yeah. IF they all hit
04:07 <N2H4> at attacks a round, you're ahead on a full attack
04:35 <N2H4> Which is in favor of the mounted charge rather than whatever you're talking about.
04:59 <Mekkis> !feat Mounted Skirmisher
05:00 <diebot> Mekkis, MOUNTED SKIRMISHER [Combat]Prereq:  Ride rank 14, Mounted Combat, Trick Riding.  You are adept at attacking from upon a swift moving steed.
05:00 <diebot> Benefit:  If your mount moves its speed or less, you can still take a full-attack action.
05:00 <diebot> Normal:  If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only take an attack action. Source: APG
06:52 <Mekkis> Mounted Combat rangers can get it at 10th
08:04 <Steven> yeah without meeting prereqs
08:26 <Mekkis> which is good, because Trick Riding's pretty lame
09:19 <Mekkis> (although Grolschmir might take it at 11th
09:20 <Mekkis> )
11:24 <Steven> i keep wanting to make a natural weapons ranger
11:52 <Steven> of the shapeshifter archtype
11:53 <Avatar> there are a lot of items that benefit monks and natural weapons
12:51 <Mekkis> all of them benefit natural weapons much more than monks :)
13:15 <N2H4> Its because monks are OP.
14:00 <Mekkis> N2H4, if I didn't know better, I'd think you were trolling
14:08 <N2H4> I am.
14:24 <Steven> monks are so OP!
14:35 <Mekkis> the only monk that's OP is NAT
14:40 <Mekkis> NAT's broken
14:53 <N2H4> See? Trolling.
15:03 <Mekkis> (you seen NAT?)
15:05 <Steven> its like Synthesists, gunslingers, monks, than everything else power level wise
15:50 <Mekkis> I still don't believe synthesists are that broken
16:22 <Steven> they arent so long as you wake them up for a battle.
17:56 <Avatar> there's an item which lets you use atonement once per week
18:07 <Avatar> could be useful if you travel with a paladin and need them to do some nasty shit occasionally
19:07 <Mekkis> have they changed Atonement?
19:12 <Mekkis> !spell atonement
19:13 <diebot> Mekkis, ATONEMENT abjuration ([]) cleric 5, druid 5, inquisitor 5 1 hour Range: touch Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yes
19:13 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/atonement.html
20:13 <Mekkis> wow
20:14 <Mekkis> they did
20:52 <Mekkis> you can now deliberately break your code and get atonement
21:13 <Steven> yups
22:51 <Avatar> it does say they must be truly repentant
23:04 <Avatar> judging that in game terms is pretty difficult
23:27 <Mekkis> I just don't break my code :P
23:46 <Steven> yeah, my friend andrew had to get an atonement before
24:04 <Avatar> my paladin is sczarni
24:17 <Steven> he went and attempted to kill his herald and his wife Jenny when he found them sleeping together
24:19 <Steven> they escaped
24:28 <Steven> with the intervention of folnor
26:30 <Steven> and now he begins every session with Thorfin w/ the announcement he will happily lose his paladin powers if means he can kill his exherald or a teammate that gets in the way of him killing his exherald
26:45 <Steven> and so we always manage to work into the story somewhere that he has spotted them
28:41 <Steven> had to restart
29:17 <Mekkis> I like Commune 1/scenario
29:31 <Steven> last time thorfin and folnor partied together, folnor(while invisible) pulled out a drawing of Jenny and Mr. Giggles(herald) 
29:42 <Steven> together on a beach
31:14 <Steven> and andrew spent the rest of the scenario on constant vigil for them
31:24 <Steven> and willingly took a -5 to his initiative
31:29 <Steven> it was halarious
35:55 <Mekkis> !item Scholar''s ring
35:56 <diebot> Mekkis, SCHOLAR'S RING [moderate conjuration] CL:5 ring 8700gp, 0lb
35:56 <diebot> A scholar's ring grants complete understanding of any written text or spoken language, even one that the wearer has never encountered before (as the comprehend languages spell), as well as a +5 competence bonus on Knowledge (history) checks.   In addition, once every 5 days the wearer can invoke a legend lore spell related to a subject that she has
35:56 <diebot> been studying in the previous week, if she has attempted a Knowledge (history) check aided by the ring.
36:13 <Mekkis> wow
36:29 <Mekkis> Deceased should get that
27:58 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 24th 10am (tier 3-7,Mekkis) / Sun 25th 11am (tier 1-2 module,Caleth) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au 
27:58 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Nov 19 06:49:08 2012
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11:29 <Sn0uu> hey
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33:04 <Sn0uu> Hey
33:08 <Sn0uu> Game Dev guy
34:01 <Sn0uu> is he here?
34:19 <Sn0uu> or Avatar or Hydra?
36:15 <Sn0uu> hello?
36:53 <Sn0uu> Anyone here have dropbox?
40:32 <Sn0uu> I
40:42 <Sn0uu> I'm looking for someone to send me a referal link...
41:01 <Sn0uu> get an extra 0.5 - 1 GB space depending on if you pay for it or not lol
43:07 <Sn0uu> So...
43:13 <Sn0uu> I looked online for how to get a dice bot
43:16 <Sn0uu> it doesn't work
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16:32 <mib_70cyi2> Hello
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18:58 <N2H4> http://rolz.org/?p=group
21:35 <N2H4> Huh. I think it'll even do dice for deadlands or exalted.
24:39 <Sn0uu> 10, 5, 19, 12, 19, 15, 20! :d
24:56 <N2H4> 7 numbers?
25:19 <Sn0uu> yeah why not
25:44 <N2H4> I figured you were doing something reasonable like rolling base stats.
48:39 <Mekkis> who uses dropbox, really
48:58 <N2H4> I do sometimes.
49:09 <N2H4> I've found its a faster way to send big files to Tashes.
50:49 <Sn0uu> its eating all my bandwidth :(
20:49 <Sn0uu> How do I join another server?
20:54 <Sn0uu> I'm using mIRC
23:29 <Sn0uu> -_-
37:15 <Mekkis> use bittorrent
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58:52 <Ballig> Sn0uu: /server -m <serveraddress>
10:30 <Steven> this day is battin a 1000
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38:49 <Avatar> Mekkis: almost forgot to schedule your game
38:53 <Avatar> emails sent now
45:41 <Mekkis> Sn0uu, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/diebot-bones-release20110704.tar.bz2
58:39 <Avatar> :o)
59:37 <Brunius> Avatar: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/schedule.php5?id=85
59:42 <Brunius> Spot the problem.
00:19 <Mekkis> you've declined!
00:27 <Ballig> wrong GM
02:03 <Avatar> I use dropbox
02:19 <Avatar> tetsu gave me a chronicle via dropbox
02:37 <Avatar> I put in the right GM
02:42 <Avatar> and it's not letting me change it now
02:01 <MekkisScreen> what's the module about, and how many sessions do you anticipate?
25:14 <fued> IM IN
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11:49 <Sn0uu> hey
33:24 <Sn0uu> Hey
33:28 <Sn0uu> Game Dev guy
34:21 <Sn0uu> is he here?
34:39 <Sn0uu> or Avatar or Hydra?
36:35 <Sn0uu> hello?
37:13 <Sn0uu> Anyone here have dropbox?
40:52 <Sn0uu> I
41:02 <Sn0uu> I'm looking for someone to send me a referal link...
41:21 <Sn0uu> get an extra 0.5 - 1 GB space depending on if you pay for it or not lol
16:52 <mib_70cyi2> Hello
49:00 <Mekkis> who uses dropbox, really
49:18 <N2H4> I do sometimes.
49:29 <N2H4> I've found its a faster way to send big files to Tashes.
51:09 <Sn0uu> its eating all my bandwidth :(
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09:58 <Mekkis> wow
12:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you want me to FAQ that?
13:53 <Mekkis> an old, fat, paracountess-aiding cleric.
13:58 <Mekkis> I like it, nosratheno 
14:24 <nosratheno> ahh thanks
15:31 <Mekkis> colour spray at high levels isn't exactly BAD
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30:58 <Mekkis> nosratheno, I'd strongly suggest you plan on what your cleric will be doing in combat
31:26 <nosratheno> Yeah. I though I'd maybe wade in and have a few swings if i could
31:27 <nosratheno> :D
31:33 <nosratheno> maybe not the best choice
31:42 <nosratheno> gang up on something
32:40 <Mekkis> what I mean, is that your character looks like it will probably feel useless in some combats, until allies start getting hurt
33:08 <nosratheno> true
33:29 <Mekkis> it's one of the problems with playing clerics in general
33:45 <nosratheno> maybe have a cup of tea
33:45 <nosratheno> :P
34:28 <nosratheno> but i did think about joining in the combat where i was least likely to get one shotted
34:46 <Mekkis> replace your mace with a longspear. That will help.
34:48 <nosratheno> is that not recommended ?
34:51 <nosratheno> ah
34:59 <nosratheno> good idea
35:17 <nosratheno> but for rp purposes the morningstar will have to stick...for now at least
35:21 <Mekkis> I would also look carefully at whether it's possible to increase your str to 13
35:42 <Mekkis> what's a half-orc doing wielding a pansy morningstar?
35:49 <nosratheno> :P
36:22 <nosratheno> its in deference and compromise with his deity, goddess of the stars
36:37 <nosratheno> but i was wondring about whether i wanted to be more battle oriented
37:19 <nosratheno> i guess i thought it would be safer to engage in a more limited capacity
37:35 <Mekkis> use bittorrent
37:37 <Mekkis> if you want to be fighting at all, you should try to have 13 str
38:21 <nosratheno> I will ponder the choices
39:01 <Mekkis> what I mean is, if you can take power attack, you WILL be able to do a meaningful amount of damage in combat
39:16 <nosratheno> ahh ok
40:26 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Kernigahn.pdf
40:28 <Mekkis> my cleric
40:38 <nosratheno> I do admit that i wasnt building for offense...and really I only thought that i might literally take a few swings and see if any stick; primary role being that of a healer.
40:42 <nosratheno> thanks ill have a look
40:54 <Mekkis> he's a healer
42:52 <Mekkis> one thing that is often expected of a cleric is to cast spells such as Bless on the party
42:56 <Mekkis> !spell bless
42:59 <diebot> Mekkis, BLESS enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) cleric 1, paladin 1, inquisitor 1 1 standard action Range: 50 ft. Duration: 1 min./level Save: none SR:yes (harmless)
42:59 <diebot> Bless fills your allies with courage. Each ally gains a +1 morale bonus on attack rolls and on saving throws against fear effects. Bless counters and dispels bane.
44:13 <nosratheno> is that a lvl 1
44:26 <nosratheno> as i have only one shiny lvl 1 slot
44:50 <nosratheno> it is
44:52 <nosratheno> lol
44:59 <nosratheno> well i guess that will be it
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47:26 <Mekkis> you have two actually
47:42 <Mekkis> three actually
47:45 <nosratheno> bonus ?
48:41 <nosratheno> i thought i only got one bonus slot for high wis
48:42 <Mekkis> one from domain
48:45 <Mekkis> one for high wis
48:52 <nosratheno> yes and one for domain
48:54 <nosratheno> ok
49:03 <nosratheno> but domain is for doamin only right ?
49:41 <Mekkis> yes
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