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52:43 <Ballig> it's not necessarily for PFS
53:04 <Steven> it works the same as it does in home brews
53:25 <Mekkis> so the GM can say no?
53:42 <Steven> but you have to spend 500-2500 in gp in summoning costs plus whatever you bribe the creature with
53:51 <Mekkis> until you come up with a GM who will give you her truename, in which case it works in the future :)
54:24 <Steven> yeah, if you say summon your celestial pegasus, it shows up and is like yo thats cool that you summoned me but no i wont carry you around... peace
54:37 <Steven> you are flat out 500-2500gp
54:43 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 18th 9am (tier 5-9,Avatar) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au 
54:43 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Nov 15 19:15:47 2012
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54:56 <Mekkis> "Greetings, I ask you to aid me as my mount for the duration of one Week."
54:56 <Steven> and also, the spell does not carry over to the next scenario, so you have to do it every time
55:42 <Mekkis> Steven, the choice is obvious: Mounted
55:46 <Ballig> wouldn't that cost you minimum 4000 gold in payment
55:54 <Ballig> and then not last beyond one scenario
56:00 <Ballig> assuming it's PFS
56:07 <Ballig> if it's not PFS, then still costs 4000+ gold
56:10 <Mekkis> also: there is a paladin archetype that gets it 1/week free
57:10 <Steven> there is a paladin type that gains access to planar ally?
57:18 <Mekkis> yep
57:22 <Mekkis> and it's PFS legal
57:24 <Mekkis> Asmel was one
57:51 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo---paladin-archetypes/sacred-servant
58:10 <Mekkis> Call Celestial Ally (Sp)
58:11 <Mekkis> At 8th level, a sacred servant can call upon her deity for aid, in the form of a powerful servant. This allows the sacred servant to cast lesser planar ally once per week as a spell-like ability without having to pay the material component cost or the servant (for reasonable tasks). At 12th level, this improves to planar ally and at 16th level, this improves to greater planar ally. The sacred servant’s caster level for this effect is equal to her pala
58:11 <Mekkis> din level.
58:37 <Ballig> for reasonable tasks
59:36 <Steven> yeah table variance will net you some not gonna happen
00:21 <Mekkis>  would you allow it, Steven? Ballig? 
00:35 <Avatar> are you rolling a character with another flying mount at 1st level
00:49 <Ballig> no
00:50 <Mekkis> no, and anyway, they get it at 8th level
00:53 <Steven> i would probably throw you random creatures for it, since it clealy states its of the dieties choice
01:19 <Mekkis> if the character knew the truename?
01:45 <Steven> how are you going to get the truename?
01:50 <Ballig> how does a lawful good paladin summon a chaotic good creature anyway
02:06 <Mekkis> ask nicely
02:11 <Ballig> the spell says even if you know their name you might not get them
02:42 <Ballig> how does a lawful good paladin get a chaotic good celestial creature? that isn't "your philosophical alignment"
03:06 <Avatar> are you rolling up a chaotic good paladin
03:30 <Mekkis> no. I'm making a tattooed sorcerer
03:52 <Ballig> does a tattooed sorcerer get Call Celestial Ally?
03:56 <Mekkis> no
04:07 <Ballig> where did that come in then
04:48 <Steven> i very seriously doubt any celestial creature would willingly give up its truename to a person who calls it, it would take a reasonably long time to gain the trust of the creature enough for that to be even a remote possibility
05:17 <Ballig> Steven: he's relying on having a GM basically throw him a bone early on and give it to him
05:30 <Ballig> future GMs will then be expected to honour it
05:43 <Mekkis> Ballig, I'm not planning on playing a sacred servant in PFS
05:47 <Mekkis> since Asmel died
06:03 <Ballig> I saw him die, it was spectacular
06:18 <Mekkis> yeah
06:26 <Mekkis> my fault for making a paladin with 10 con
06:33 <Ballig> are you going the advanced celestial pegasus from lesser planar ally in PFS, or is it a regular game
06:39 <Steven> i would not honor it, he could do planar ally, and i would put it on the list of things that could respond, and then random it.
06:52 <Mekkis> Ballig, I've done it in a regular game
07:14 <Ballig> cool
08:23 <Steven> put it on a list, with 2-3 other things and just roll a dice.  maybe the celestial pegasus had a daughters play to go to...
08:51 <Mekkis> remember Shravana, Ballig?
09:44 <Ballig> was that the thing with arms
10:10 <Mekkis> yeah...
10:19 <Mekkis> She was Ghandi's planar cohort
10:50 <Mekkis> hmmm
11:19 <Mekkis> why do they keep making scenarios require 12 plastic slips to put them in
11:52 <Avatar> what do you mean
12:01 <Avatar> 12 pages?
12:18 <Mekkis> I keep my scenario printouts in the Bindermate display books, like Darkwhite does
12:36 <Mekkis> it's annoying how they Just don't fit in a 10 pocket book
13:05 <Mekkis> I'm cleaning my desk, and I found about 50% of season 1 waiting to be foldered
13:12 <Avatar> darkwhite's are in one plastic slip
13:25 <Mekkis> per page, right?
16:13 <Avatar> oh woops
16:15 <Avatar> I dunno
18:09 <Mekkis> they were also printed out incorrectly
18:38 <Mekkis> omg
19:02 <Avatar> just get a haversack
19:05 <Mekkis> CR12 - 32 creatures
21:44 <Mekkis> ooh
21:51 <Mekkis> a printout of Darkest Vengeance!
21:57 <Mekkis> I should run it!
22:11 <Avatar> zaleary = zack
22:27 <Ballig> I will run it
22:42 <Mekkis> when?
23:07 <Avatar> mekkis I will never run anything for you that you will use spoilers for
23:10 <Avatar> after shades of ice 2
23:23 <Ballig> haha
24:48 Steven has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
27:54 <Mekkis> Avatar, going to reschedule Jester's Fraud?
28:52 <MekkisScreen> get your wolf a hat of disguise, so he looks like a frog!
29:38 <Ballig> ha
29:46 <Ballig> calculating weight, I'm not far over his encumberance
29:50 <Ballig> it'll be fairly easy to drop a few things
29:57 <MekkisScreen> 18 acid flasks>
30:05 <Ballig> yeah :p
30:07 <Ballig> stupid swarms
30:25 <Ballig> I should keep most of them at the society!
30:38 <MekkisScreen> you should
30:47 <MekkisScreen> have I levelled up Deceased on the site yet?
31:07 <Mekkis> I'm considering eating Devil We Know III and IV
31:23 <MekkisScreen> no
31:32 <MekkisScreen> he's level 6 on the site
31:42 <MekkisScreen> better upload him now
39:48 <Steven> woot woot, cleaning up my room
40:12 <Steven> found a playset of oran rief the vastwood
42:46 <Steven> from when i used to play an avenger of zendikar deck
55:29 <DaIdiot> ddddddddddd n ddddddddddddddddddddddd
55:58 <DaIdiot> dynamitte\
56:04 <DaIdiot> dddddd n dddddddddddddddddd
56:07 <DaIdiot> dddddd n dddddddddddddddddd
01:56 <Brunius> man
08:53 <Mekkis> it's nice how he's so honest
16:19 <Brunius> Ha
16:30 <Brunius> I just found a keylogger on another computer
17:47 <Brunius> So now I have to scan this computer
17:51 <Brunius> Bloody hell
17:57 <Brunius> Why the hell would he install a keylogger
29:15 <Ballig> in his defence, very few people intend to install a keylogger
29:32 <Brunius> He deliberately did so
29:37 <Brunius> (And admitted it)
29:46 <Mekkis> "he"?
29:52 <Ballig> his little brother
29:53 <Brunius> My brother
29:57 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should install Service Pack L
30:01 <Ballig> how old is your brother now
30:05 <Brunius> 13
30:13 <Ballig> why does your brother never get older but you do
30:14 <Brunius> Service Pack L?
30:19 <Mekkis> why does he have administrator access?
30:19 <Ballig> he means linux
31:00 <Brunius> Because if I took it away there would be much trouble
31:09 <Brunius> Although at this point I don't know if anyone could blame me
35:42 <Mekkis> maybe you should stop using OSes that he could install a keylogger on
35:58 <Ballig> a keylogger can be installed on all OSes
36:10 <Brunius> Not easily on some
36:13 <Mekkis> I doubt Brunius' brother could install a keylogger on linux
36:26 <Brunius> On his own? Maybe not.
36:37 <Brunius> But the internet has many guides on this very subject, I'm sure.
36:42 <Mekkis> especially without root access
37:03 * Mekkis googles installing keylogger on linux
38:33 <Mekkis> well.. It's easy if you have root access
38:43 <Mekkis> so don't give him root (or sudo) access
38:51 <Brunius> Mmmm
39:33 <Ballig> or he can not give him administrator access on windows
40:14 <Mekkis> you sure that'll work?
40:32 <Brunius> I've just set him to standard user
40:36 <Brunius> We'll see how it goes
41:11 <Ballig> assuming the security policies are set properly, yes
41:43 <Mekkis> the problem is that it's really hard to see what other breaches he's shoved on your system, inadvertently or otherwise
42:30 <Ballig> there are programs that scan for that kind of thing
42:46 <Mekkis> none of them work 100%
43:52 <nosratheno> whats your favourite distro Mekkis ?
44:42 <Mekkis> opensuse tends to work for me
46:48 <Steven> i think im going to make a ranger
48:10 <Ballig> I'm not sure if I want to make a druid or a summoner
48:17 <Avatar> I have never liked rangers
48:54 <Avatar> I want to build a summoner but don't know what to make for the eidolon
49:54 <Ballig> I don't want an eidolon
50:13 <Ballig> sup nosratheno
50:19 <nosratheno> heya
50:30 <Avatar> you look familiar
50:39 <Ballig> no he doesn't
50:50 <Avatar> I'll decide that
50:51 <nosratheno> yeah i decline the recent invite for tier 5-9 :P
50:58 <nosratheno> because im new
50:59 <Avatar> ahh that's why
51:29 <Ballig> is it because you hate us
51:36 <nosratheno> I have a level 1
51:40 <nosratheno> and thats it
51:47 <Ballig> also you hate us right
51:52 <nosratheno> no
51:57 <Ballig> do you just hate Avatar
51:59 <Ballig> that's understandable
52:03 <Avatar> no it's not
52:07 <Ballig> well I understand it
52:11 <Avatar> well I hate you
52:17 <Ballig> what, why
52:19 <Ballig> what did I do to you
52:20 <Avatar> don't know
52:22 <Avatar> nothing really
52:42 <Avatar> I'm going to make a whale eidolon
53:00 <Ballig> can you make an aquatic eidolon
53:13 <Avatar> yeah, UM
53:29 <nosratheno> so..whats to do for a level 1 with minimal experience of dnd 3ed circa 2000 ?
53:44 <Avatar> have you got a PFS character
53:48 <nosratheno> yes
53:59 <nosratheno> above mentioned lvl 1
53:59 <Avatar> have you figured out how PFS works
54:03 <nosratheno> kind of
54:17 <Avatar> you just find a game you can play in and sign up for that session
54:19 <nosratheno> i have 1st ed pathfinder rulebook
54:23 <nosratheno> yeah ok
54:24 <Avatar> you can play in the 5-9 if you want
54:33 <Avatar> just use a 7th level pregen and apply the credit to your 1st level man
54:38 <nosratheno> maybe too much too soon ?
54:45 <Avatar> up to you
54:52 <Avatar> there are other 1-5 games floating around
55:13 <Avatar> while you're level 1, if you see a first steps game going on, jump on that
55:24 <nosratheno> fair enough
55:29 <Brunius> Avatar is just obsessed with first steps
55:31 <nosratheno> where do i find said games ?
55:35 <Brunius> Do whatever you want
56:06 <Ballig> Brunius: it's fair advice to suggest a new player plays First Steps
56:25 <Avatar> in here we'll send invites 
56:33 <nosratheno> ok
56:40 <Avatar> this place is pretty good too: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/pathfinder-society-online-collective
56:46 <nosratheno> ty
01:21 <Steven> so.... the infiltrator is pretty cool
01:39 <Mekkis> yours?
01:44 <Avatar> what's that!
02:20 <Steven> ranger archtype
02:36 <Steven> replaces favored terrain
03:05 <Steven> you pick one of the favored enemies you have selected
03:54 <Steven> and you gain one thing from a list of different abilities for 10minutes /ranger level
04:59 <Steven> it seems pretty solid, cause i never really liked favored terrain
05:15 <Avatar> like what things can you select from
05:31 <Steven> Aberration: amphibious, darkvision 60 ft., Iron Will, natural armor +2..
07:39 <nosratheno> I ran Arch for a year and debian after that...prefer Arch but Im lazy and not a poweruser, though I definitely appreciated the control that Arch provides.
07:53 <Avatar> what's the catch
07:57 <Avatar> that seems incredibly overpowered
08:11 <Steven> you lose favored terrain
08:12 <Avatar> not pfs legal maybe
08:18 <Avatar> favoured terrain is garbage
09:34 <Steven> its legal for play
09:45 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo---ranger-archetypes/infiltrator
10:23 <Steven> i guess you lose access to Hide in plain sight and camouflage
10:30 <Steven> when you arent using the adaption
11:59 <Steven> yeah an ifirit Infiltrator Ranger
12:04 <Avatar> 10 minutes per day
12:10 <Ballig> per level
12:13 <Steven> yeah
12:21 <Avatar> per level
12:26 <Ballig> 10 minutes per level per day
12:30 <Steven> 10 minutes per day per ranger level
12:34 <Ballig> so a 4th level ranger can use it for 40 minutes
12:40 <Ballig> has to be used in 10 minute increments
12:48 <nosratheno> But if you want comparative ease then Mint is also nice 
12:50 <Ballig> basically you could use it every time you start combat, and by 4th level you'd be using it in every encounter
12:59 <Steven> thats a decently long amount of time once you get 5+ levels
13:24 <Mekkis> I'm still yet to find a better administration tool than Yast
13:31 <nosratheno> :P
14:09 <nosratheno> I used suse around 2004 or so...
14:28 <nosratheno> the distro-hopping days
14:39 <Avatar> that is a top notch archetype
14:44 <Steven> for sure
14:49 <Avatar> I am making an infiltrator now
14:53 <Ballig> yeah, favoured terrain is shit
14:54 <Ballig> and an easy swap
14:56 <Steven> several of the archtypes have nat armor +2
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15:13 <Steven> tank ranger totaly possible
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15:25 <nosratheno> I like the mascot
16:22 <Avatar> how
17:09 <Steven> not tellin you my build son!
17:16 <Ballig> the shaman druids are decent
17:29 <Mekkis> there aren't many illusion(shadow) spells in Pathfinder
17:33 <Avatar> tell me and I will copy it
17:35 <Mekkis> !spell Shadow Weapon
17:41 <Steven> yeah no way
17:49 <Avatar> I am not even making an infiltrator
17:53 <diebot> Mekkis, SHADOW WEAPON illusion (shadow[shadow]) sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: 0 ft. Duration: 1 minute/level Save: Will disbelief (if interacted with) SR:yes
17:53 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/shadow_weapon.html
18:11 <Steven> !throw 1d20+11 Sense Motive
18:12 <diebot> Steven, Sense Motive: [1d20=6] 17
18:24 <Steven> hmmmm..... you may be telling the truth...
19:09 <Steven> im gonna make a jack of all trades Infiltrator ranger
19:15 <Mekkis> !spell Shadow Evocation
19:18 <diebot> Mekkis, SHADOW EVOCATION illusion (shadow[shadow]) bard 5, sorcerer/wizard 5 1 standard action Range: see text Duration: see text Save: Will disbelief (if interacted with) SR:yes
19:18 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/shadow_evocation.html
19:21 <Ballig> me too
20:00 <Mekkis> !spell Shadow Anchor
20:01 <diebot> Mekkis, SHADOW ANCHOR illusion (shadow[shadow]) bard 2, sorcerer/ wizard 2, witch 2 1 standard action Range: touch Duration: 1 round/level (D); see text Save:  SR:Save Will negates;  yes
20:01 <diebot> The target's shadow becomes a flexible tether to its current square. The creature can move up to 5 feet from that square without penalty. Moving farther than 5 feet from the tether point requires the target to make a bull rush combat maneuver check against a CMB of 10 + 1/2 your caster level + your Intelligence modifier (if a witch or wizard) or
20:01 <diebot> Charisma modifier (if a bard or sorcerer). The target takes a -1 penalty for every 5 feet of distance between it and its tethered square. Failing this check means the target's move is wasted and it cannot move farther away. If it fails this check by 10 or more, it is pulled 5 feet toward the tether square and is knocked prone. If it beats the check
20:01 <diebot> by 10 or more, the spell ends. This spell does not work on creatures that do not cast shadows or reflections. If the target uses a teleportation effect or leaves the current plane, the spell ends.
20:21 <Steven> i wish i had some cola... i could totaly go for a rum and coke
21:59 <nosratheno> Is the default desktop KDE ?
22:09 <Mekkis> no. There's no default desktop
22:19 <Mekkis> they make you choose on install
22:24 <nosratheno> aah
22:37 <Mekkis> (gnome, KDE, other (including LXDE, etc)
22:41 <Mekkis> I use kde 3.5
26:30 <Steven> i wonder if i can talk walter into letting me play a dhampir for his homebrew
26:31 <Brunius> First desktop I used was KDE
29:04 <Ballig> my first desktop was GEOS 8-bit
32:42 <Avatar> talk walter into coming in here
33:25 <Steven> i already told him about this chat
33:34 <Steven> if he wanted to come in, he would be here already
36:06 <Avatar> ask him what his problem is
36:16 <Avatar> say hey walter what is your problem ?
36:40 <Steven> today... probably was an overload of birthday wellwishers and drinks
37:04 <Avatar> is today his birthday
37:20 <Steven> well yesterday was
37:28 <Steven> but he is probably just finishing up at the bar
37:42 <Steven> and i declined to go, because im dumb and didnt feel like going to bar
37:44 <Steven> but now i want a rum and coke
42:42 <Avatar> if you didn't feel like going to the bar, it seems that not going to the bar is the opposite of dumb
43:56 <Steven> that would be accurate save for additional information i didnt tell you, and will decline to burden you with
50:22 <Avatar> game tomorrow cancelled
50:32 <Ballig> is it because you hate us
50:40 <Avatar> yes
50:46 <Ballig> :(
50:49 <Brunius> :(
51:02 <Avatar> darkwhite's roped me into GMing at blackburn, he's sick
51:27 <Ballig> did we have enough to play if you weren't GMing at Blackburn
51:37 <Avatar> no, only you and mekkis
51:42 <Avatar> otherwise this table takes priority
51:52 <Brunius> What if I sign up to it
51:53 <Brunius> Right now
52:06 <Avatar> too late, it's cancelled now
52:12 <Avatar> where were you an hour ago
52:22 <Brunius> Trying to get my ArmA to work
52:34 <Avatar> pfs > arma !!
52:49 <Brunius> stuff I have already committed to > stuff I have yet to commit to
53:02 <Ballig> how do you commit to arma
53:15 <Ballig> do you say "oh, arma, I want to play you so much. I want to be inside you"
53:15 <Brunius> There's an organised thing going down 7am tomorrow
54:25 <Brunius> I love how my brother bought this game without even looking at the requirements
54:25 <Avatar> Ballig: I didn't realise cancelling a game spams everyone who hadn't accepted
54:40 <Ballig> obv
54:41 <Brunius> We're so far below the requirements that it's comical that it runs
55:10 <Ballig> what game is it
55:35 <Brunius> Dishonoured
00:32 <Avatar> is it any good
00:55 <Ballig> from memory, one of the abilities in Dishonoured is that you can slow down time
01:02 <Ballig> of course, Brunius probably can't tell the difference between that and regular gameplay
01:03 <Ballig> ha ha ha
01:41 <Brunius> "Um..well...you're not supposed to kill many people, cos it gives you a worse ending, and it's hard to go through it without killing people, but if you kill people it's really easy. And it's fun."
01:47 <Brunius> (Exact quote)
02:31 <Ballig> is that a quote from your brother
02:34 <Avatar> god, that 5 year old is at tomorrow's table
02:36 <Brunius> Yes.
02:39 <Brunius> Ha
02:49 <Ballig> is he really 5 years old
02:57 <Avatar> I think so
03:00 <Ballig> he could probably play Rabble better than I do
03:00 <Avatar> maybe 4
03:05 <Avatar> yeah
03:23 <Ballig> we should make entire tables of people under the age of 6
03:30 <Brunius> ...
03:31 <Ballig> they won't know what's happening, but we get credit for playing
03:31 <Avatar> one of the other guys has this really strong french accent
03:42 <Avatar> and I couldn't tell at times whether he was trying to do things in character or not
18:39 <Brunius> How do multiple babs work
18:42 <Brunius> like +6/+1
19:11 <Ballig> if you do a full attack action, you get two attacks
19:16 <Ballig> one using BAB +6 the other using BAB +1
19:59 <Ballig> the other attacks are called "iterative attacks", in case you see that phrase used in some parts of the rules
20:29 <Brunius> So I apply my str etc. to each attack?
20:35 <Ballig> yeah
20:43 <Brunius> Power attack too?
20:45 <Ballig> pretend your BAB is +1 and re-calculate it like you would your +6
20:55 <Ballig> let me double check power attack
21:01 <Brunius> Alright
21:12 <Hydrazine> A level 6 fighter is so much more badass than a level 2 fighter, that he can get TWO swings in the same period of time.
21:16 <Ballig> yeah it's on all attack rolls
21:17 <Hydrazine> Yes, power attack too.
21:23 <Ballig> so if you power attack you are power attacking with all attacks that round
21:32 <Brunius> CMB/CMD?
21:38 <Hydrazine> Yep.
21:48 <Ballig> if your CMB is based on an attack action, yeah
21:51 <Hydrazine> Assuming you're using CMBs that replace attacks and don't take a standard action.
21:57 <Brunius> Highest?
22:01 <Hydrazine> No.
22:02 <Ballig> depends on your action
22:06 <Ballig> if it's a standard action you use your highest BAB
22:13 <Brunius> CMD?
22:16 <Ballig> if it's a CMB that is part of an attack action, you use whatever BAB you are using for that attack
22:20 <Hydrazine> Lets say a level 6 fighter attacks, then trips. Because he can do that.
22:22 <Ballig> CMD is defensive, you use highest
22:29 <Hydrazine> You get +6 to the attack and +1 to the trip.
23:13 <Brunius> ok
23:27 <Brunius> Ranged weapons? Do I need say rapid reload?
23:36 <Ballig> if it's a crossbow yes
23:39 <Ballig> it has to be a free action
23:49 <Brunius> Alright
23:51 <Ballig> if it's a long or shortbow, you get the iterative attacks just like melee attacks
24:26 <Hydrazine> Thrown weapons (except shuriken) you need quick draw for.
24:59 <Ballig> brb
25:06 <Hydrazine> This is most of why long/short bows are SO much better than crossbows.
25:56 <Brunius> Well that was a simple enough level up
27:28 <Steven> no the reason bows are so much better than crossbows are because you can get a composite bows that can add your str score that will up your damage without dropping a ton of cash
28:56 <Hydrazine> And you can get full attacks per round without spending extra feats.
31:38 <Steven> you can get around feats quite easily, like with a repeating crossbow, allows 5 bolts to be shot
31:59 <Steven> and then have an unseen servant reload for you
32:59 <Ballig> at that point you're using an exotic weapon
33:17 <Brunius> Which is a feat to use....
33:41 <Steven> unless you are an inquisitor
33:44 <Ballig> someone relying on a crossbow for ranged attacks won't get a BAB of +6 or higher for quite a while anyway
35:03 <Hydrazine> But they could use rapid shot as early as level 2 with a shortbow.
35:54 <Ballig> only reason I can see to go shortbow is if you're small or you want to want to be mounted and can't afford a composite longbow
36:24 <Steven> then you just use a composite shortbow
37:22 <Ballig> why would you go composite shortbow
37:42 <Steven> who knows
37:46 <Steven> some people are crazy
38:56 <Hydrazine> Even so Ballig, the movement economy of a bow can be important pretty early, even if theres no actual damage per round difference.
39:23 <Ballig> yeah what are the benefits to shortbow though
39:33 <Brunius> It's shorter
51:06 <Avatar> it's cheaper
53:47 <Ballig> I mean assuming that cost isn't a factor
53:53 <Ballig> I was wondering if the shortbow affected movement economy
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39:43 <Brunius> Sup Eryda
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02:46 <Eryda> Oh hi there, Brunius.
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26:16 <Steven> stupid people waking me up at 130pm
26:24 <Steven> damn it i was sleeping so good
55:33 <Steven> sup sup sup sup sup sup sup
55:49 <Steven> i may have went to the store and bought some cola and drank like 4 rum and cokes
56:13 <Steven> also... i may now be boarderline drunk
56:59 <Steven> 15 days and its winterfest
14:09 <Ballig> Mekkis: how does wild shape work
14:39 <Ballig> and by extension, the beast shape spells
16:58 <Steven> methinks its time for breakfast
23:58 <Steven> it works by you turn into an animal
30:37 <Ballig> what exactly do you get and what don't you get?
31:57 <Eryda> Good morning peeps. =)
32:05 <Avatar> Eryda
32:09 <Avatar> have you played pfs
32:18 <Eryda> Yeap.
32:37 <Avatar> sweeet
32:40 <Avatar> what level is your man
32:48 <Avatar> level/s
33:14 <Eryda> Hm. Bard'll be 3 tomorrow, after another session.
33:38 <Eryda> I'm looking to start a freshie online. Any clues on what I should do?
33:58 <Avatar> have you registered on www.pfrpg.com.au
34:36 <Eryda> I just did. =)
34:45 <Avatar> sweet
34:49 <Avatar> you'll get invites to games now
36:55 <Eryda> Awesome. Any chance of any tier 1 games out there?
38:49 <Avatar> sec
39:06 <Avatar> I'm playing in a 1-5 today that might have free spots
39:25 <Avatar> do you have maptool
43:34 <Avatar> looks like it's a 3-7
46:38 <Ballig> !find jax
46:38 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=29
46:39 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=338
47:53 <Ballig> !find rabble
47:53 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=96
47:54 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=394
48:17 <Eryda> Sorry, was editing character sheet. ~.~ what's maptool?
48:32 <Avatar> it is a garbage mapping program that too many people like using
48:49 <Avatar> 99% of games that run in here use CA
49:09 <Avatar> which is in the downloads section of the site
49:14 <Eryda> I downloaded CA
49:55 <Eryda> Oh wait. Yours is 5-7. I declined that invitation. =)
50:18 <Avatar> yeah 5-9
50:37 <Avatar> I assume you know the rules about playing a pregen in those tiers
51:55 <Eryda> Hm. I haven't really done pre-gens though.
52:09 <Eryda> But regardless, I don't have the time to make that game.
52:22 <Eryda> I'm actually headed off to bed now. Working later in the evening.
52:25 <Avatar> yeah fair enough
52:31 <Avatar> accept when you can play
52:50 <Eryda> Tyvm for the invite, though. I look forward to making a table when I can! Cheers~
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02:09 <Avatar> rebooting
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02:49 <Steven> i cant really decide on what combat style to make my ranger
04:18 <Steven> kinda wanna pick up a reach weapon, and go with two weapon fighting
04:45 <Steven> pick up pushing assault, push people up to 15 feet away from my character so they cant just 5 foot step in
39:27 <Mekkis> it's getting really dark
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46:26 <Avro> hola
46:30 <Avro> anyone on
46:35 <Avro> and breathing
47:01 <N2H4> I'm breathing, so I guess I'm still alive.
47:05 <N2H4> Even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
47:10 <Avro> lol
47:22 <Avro> looking for a few to fill in on a Pathfinder game
47:26 <Avro> interseted
47:53 <N2H4> how long would it be going until?
48:16 <Avro> bah gm just called it
48:20 <Avro> sorry
48:25 <Avro> running an hour late now
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51:46 <Mekkis> eloh
56:02 <Mekkis> Steven, the choice is obvious: Mounted
06:36 <Avatar> is anyone up to play storming the diamond gate right now
06:47 <Avatar> need one more person
06:50 <Avatar> to play up
09:58 <Ballig> we're not playing up
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10:12 <Avro> hmm fell out of chat
10:31 <Avro> sooo anything fun happening
12:46 <Avatar> storming the diamond gate
12:48 <Avatar> oh yeah sing it to me
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17:04 <kapow> Ooga booga!
17:20 <Mekkis> moin
17:31 <Mekkis> got a PC set up?
18:06 <kapow> Nope avatar was just bugging me to get in here on Skype.
19:32 <Avatar> yeah get your act together
19:34 <Avatar> god
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21:39 <Ballig> ha
22:31 <Avro> already did storming the diamond gate... 8(
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29:40 <kapow> Stupid storm... Anyway I gotta scoot off for house inspections.
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14:55 <***> Buffer Playback...
14:55 <***> Playback Complete.
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08:29 <Mekkis> !item Scabbard of Vigor
08:40 <diebot> Mekkis, SCABBARD OF VIGOR [faint transmutation] CL:5 none 1800gp, 3lb
08:40 <diebot> Once per day, as part of the action of drawing forth the weapon held by a scabbard of vigor, the wearer can order it to endow the weapon with an enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls. The duration of the effect depends on the desired enhancement bonus for the weapon.  BONUS DURATION  +4 1 round  +3 3 rounds  +2 5 rounds  +1 10 rounds
09:29 * Mekkis buys five
11:02 <Avatar> yeah top notch item
36:30 <Mekkis> charge with +4 lance
40:02 <Brunius> Sup Eryda
46:09 <Avatar> it's not a +4 to a weapon of your choice
46:21 <Avatar> oh wait it is
46:34 <Avatar> what book is that in
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51:23 <Mekkis> UE
51:26 <Steven> what up yo
51:35 <Steven> ultimate equipment is awesome
54:36 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> !item Scabbard of Vigor
02:07 <Mekkis> So, I plan on making a character using Inner Sea Magic
02:13 <Avatar> !item mnemonic vestment
02:14 <diebot> Avatar, MNEMONIC VESTMENT [strong transmutation] CL:17 body 5000gp, 1lb
02:14 <diebot> The surface of this delicate-looking blue silk robe is adorned with tiny embossed runes across its entire surface. If the wearer is a spontaneous caster, once per day she may use a spell slot to cast a spell from a written source (such as a scroll or spellbook) as if she knew that spell. The spell must be on her spell list, the same spell level or
02:14 <diebot> lower than the expended spell slot, and the same type of spell (arcane or divine) as the spell slot expended. The caster must also understand the written source (such as using Decipher Script or read magic) and be carrying it. Activating the robe is not an action, but casting the spell otherwise works as normal, including casting time, providing
02:14 <diebot> components or foci, and so on. Using a mnemonic vestment's properties does not consume the written source.
02:51 <Mekkis> wow
03:06 <Eryda> Oh hi there, Brunius.
06:35 <Mekkis> !item Page of Spell Knowledge
11:31 <Avatar> what is the point of that vestment if "the spell must be on her spell list"
13:15 <Mekkis> it allows a sorcerer to carry around a spellbook
13:19 <Mekkis> and use spells in it
13:22 <Mekkis> that aren't known
13:32 <Avatar> but if the spell must be on her spell list, that defeats the purpose?
13:40 <Avatar> doesn't that say they must be known
13:49 <Mekkis> sorcerers have a limited number of spells known
14:06 <Mekkis> ie. a first level sorcerer knows three first level spells
14:08 <Avatar> oh spell list just means 'sorcerer spells' 
14:12 <Avatar> not sorcerer spells known
14:13 <Mekkis> yeah
15:25 <Mekkis> so it is quite useful
17:01 <Avatar> first time my gun misfired on me today :(
17:18 <Mekkis> noone's tried sundering your gun yet?
17:32 <Avatar> no that is a waste of time
17:36 <Avatar> I dont' take it out that much anyway
18:52 <Mekkis> really?
18:57 <Mekkis> I thought you slung guns
19:11 <Avatar> james uses his gun like you use a crossbow
19:34 <Avatar> he's more mysterious stranger than gunslinger
19:38 <Mekkis> James?
19:48 <Avatar> archaeologist
19:52 <Mekkis> I don't use a crossbow
20:13 <Avatar> you know what I mean
20:34 <Mekkis> were you at DOM or GG?
21:24 <Avatar> maptool
21:41 <Mekkis> ah
22:02 <Steven> avatar... what did you want me to run a while back?
22:11 <Avatar> portal of the sacred rune
22:17 <Avatar> tetsu's running it next weekend now
24:58 <Steven> alright, i wont buy it then
26:21 <Avatar> I think I'm cancelling tomorrow's game
26:28 <Avatar> can't get a third
26:32 <Avatar> let alone 4
26:36 <Steven> stupid people waking me up at 130pm
26:44 <Steven> damn it i was sleeping so good
27:00 <Avatar> bit late notice on my part
28:46 <Steven> happens sometimes
28:57 <Steven> 9 days till we celebrate thanksgiving
29:16 <Mekkis> who are you thanking?
29:27 <Steven> the day in american culture thats most closely related to our raping and theft of the indian land and civilization
30:00 <Mekkis> I thought that'd be Columbus Day
30:00 <Steven> im going to hang with my mom
30:22 <Steven> nah.... columbus 'found' the land... the pilgrims stole that shit
30:48 <Mekkis> you get two days to celebrate rape and theft?!
30:52 <Mekkis> we only get one :(
31:11 <Steven> well... we americans love celebrating how we fucked over the native americans
31:24 <Steven> although... technically im a native american
31:30 <Steven> since i was born here in america
33:17 <Ballig> the native part talks about your ancestry
33:23 <Ballig> not you individually
34:02 <Ballig> "kangaroos are native to Australia" means that they come from here, not that that specific kangaroo was born in Australia as opposed to a zoo overseas
34:46 <Steven> scientifically speaking far enough back we are all native africans
36:04 <Ballig> this isn't a scientific discussion
36:17 <Steven> everything is scientific!
36:23 <Ballig> false
39:20 <Steven> oh wow i dont have to report this thing
39:22 <Steven> kick ass
43:01 <Mekkis> help me choose a domain
43:10 <Avatar> knowledge
43:11 <Mekkis> for a mounted archer
43:13 <Ballig> healing
43:27 <Avatar> knowledge is power
43:42 <Ballig> trickery !
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44:28 <Mekkis> Avatar, I will take your suggestion of Knowledge, add the Memory Subdomain, and see where it takes me.
44:50 <Avatar> no not memory
44:51 <Avatar> knowledge
44:58 <Avatar> memory is overrated
45:06 <Avatar> knowledge is power
45:07 <Mekkis> memory suits my character better
45:28 <Steven> whatcha riding?
45:31 <Mekkis> knowledge is power, power is work / time, time is money
45:41 <Mekkis> Advanced Celestial pegasus
45:43 <Ballig> but power is also money
47:07 <Steven> whats it gained from?
47:50 <Mekkis> casting Lesser Planar Ally and asking nicely
49:36 <Ballig> I'd be pissed if someone summoned me and was like "So... can I ride you?"
49:51 <Steven> yeah.... pretty pissed
49:54 <Mekkis> even if they offered you lots of $$$s
50:20 <Steven> yup
50:32 <Mekkis> luckily you're not my pegasus
50:36 <Ballig> what does a pegasus need with $$$
50:57 <Steven> imagine asking a red dragon... yo bitch heres 10k let me ride you around and shoot... *MUNCH MUNCH MUNCH*
51:09 <Mekkis> hmmm
51:21 <Mekkis> I wonder if there's such thing as a celestial dragon
51:56 <Steven> also a lot of GMs are not aware of how summon planar ally works
52:04 <Steven> in pfs
52:19 <Mekkis> how does it work in PFS?
52:23 <Ballig> it's not necessarily for PFS
52:44 <Steven> it works the same as it does in home brews
53:05 <Mekkis> so the GM can say no?
53:22 <Steven> but you have to spend 500-2500 in gp in summoning costs plus whatever you bribe the creature with
53:31 <Mekkis> until you come up with a GM who will give you her truename, in which case it works in the future :)
54:04 <Steven> yeah, if you say summon your celestial pegasus, it shows up and is like yo thats cool that you summoned me but no i wont carry you around... peace
54:17 <Steven> you are flat out 500-2500gp
54:36 <Mekkis> "Greetings, I ask you to aid me as my mount for the duration of one Week."
54:36 <Steven> and also, the spell does not carry over to the next scenario, so you have to do it every time
55:26 <Ballig> wouldn't that cost you minimum 4000 gold in payment
55:35 <Ballig> and then not last beyond one scenario
55:40 <Ballig> assuming it's PFS
55:47 <Ballig> if it's not PFS, then still costs 4000+ gold
55:50 <Mekkis> also: there is a paladin archetype that gets it 1/week free
56:50 <Steven> there is a paladin type that gains access to planar ally?
56:58 <Mekkis> yep
57:02 <Mekkis> and it's PFS legal
57:04 <Mekkis> Asmel was one
57:31 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo---paladin-archetypes/sacred-servant
57:50 <Mekkis> Call Celestial Ally (Sp)
57:50 <Mekkis> At 8th level, a sacred servant can call upon her deity for aid, in the form of a powerful servant. This allows the sacred servant to cast lesser planar ally once per week as a spell-like ability without having to pay the material component cost or the servant (for reasonable tasks). At 12th level, this improves to planar ally and at 16th level, this improves to greater planar ally. The sacred servant’s caster level for this effect is equal to her pala
57:50 <Mekkis> din level.
58:17 <Ballig> for reasonable tasks
59:16 <Steven> yeah table variance will net you some not gonna happen
00:01 <Mekkis>  would you allow it, Steven? Ballig? 
00:15 <Avatar> are you rolling a character with another flying mount at 1st level
00:30 <Ballig> no
00:30 <Mekkis> no, and anyway, they get it at 8th level
00:33 <Steven> i would probably throw you random creatures for it, since it clealy states its of the dieties choice
00:59 <Mekkis> if the character knew the truename?
01:25 <Steven> how are you going to get the truename?
01:30 <Ballig> how does a lawful good paladin summon a chaotic good creature anyway
01:46 <Mekkis> ask nicely
01:51 <Ballig> the spell says even if you know their name you might not get them
02:22 <Ballig> how does a lawful good paladin get a chaotic good celestial creature? that isn't "your philosophical alignment"
02:46 <Avatar> are you rolling up a chaotic good paladin
03:10 <Mekkis> no. I'm making a tattooed sorcerer
03:32 <Ballig> does a tattooed sorcerer get Call Celestial Ally?
03:36 <Mekkis> no
03:47 <Ballig> where did that come in then
04:29 <Steven> i very seriously doubt any celestial creature would willingly give up its truename to a person who calls it, it would take a reasonably long time to gain the trust of the creature enough for that to be even a remote possibility
04:57 <Ballig> Steven: he's relying on having a GM basically throw him a bone early on and give it to him
05:10 <Ballig> future GMs will then be expected to honour it
05:23 <Mekkis> Ballig, I'm not planning on playing a sacred servant in PFS
05:27 <Mekkis> since Asmel died
05:44 <Ballig> I saw him die, it was spectacular
05:58 <Mekkis> yeah
06:06 <Mekkis> my fault for making a paladin with 10 con
06:13 <Ballig> are you going the advanced celestial pegasus from lesser planar ally in PFS, or is it a regular game
06:20 <Steven> i would not honor it, he could do planar ally, and i would put it on the list of things that could respond, and then random it.
06:32 <Mekkis> Ballig, I've done it in a regular game
06:54 <Ballig> cool
08:03 <Steven> put it on a list, with 2-3 other things and just roll a dice.  maybe the celestial pegasus had a daughters play to go to...
08:31 <Mekkis> remember Shravana, Ballig?
09:24 <Ballig> was that the thing with arms
09:49 <Mekkis> yeah...
09:59 <Mekkis> She was Ghandi's planar cohort
10:30 <Mekkis> hmmm
10:59 <Mekkis> why do they keep making scenarios require 12 plastic slips to put them in
11:32 <Avatar> what do you mean
11:41 <Avatar> 12 pages?
11:58 <Mekkis> I keep my scenario printouts in the Bindermate display books, like Darkwhite does
12:16 <Mekkis> it's annoying how they Just don't fit in a 10 pocket book
12:45 <Mekkis> I'm cleaning my desk, and I found about 50% of season 1 waiting to be foldered
12:52 <Avatar> darkwhite's are in one plastic slip
13:05 <Mekkis> per page, right?
14:29 <Ballig> Mekkis: how does wild shape work
14:59 <Ballig> and by extension, the beast shape spells
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15:53 <Avatar> oh woops
15:55 <Avatar> I dunno
17:17 <Steven> methinks its time for breakfast
17:49 <Mekkis> they were also printed out incorrectly
18:18 <Mekkis> omg
18:45 <Mekkis> CR12 - 32 creatures
21:24 <Mekkis> ooh
21:31 <Mekkis> a printout of Darkest Vengeance!
21:37 <Mekkis> I should run it!
22:07 <Ballig> I will run it
22:22 <Mekkis> when?
22:47 <Avatar> mekkis I will never run anything for you that you will use spoilers for
22:50 <Avatar> after shades of ice 2
23:03 <Ballig> haha
24:18 <Steven> it works by you turn into an animal
27:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, going to reschedule Jester's Fraud?
30:47 <Mekkis> I'm considering eating Devil We Know III and IV
30:56 <Ballig> what exactly do you get and what don't you get?
32:16 <Eryda> Good morning peeps. =)
32:25 <Avatar> Eryda
32:28 <Avatar> have you played pfs
32:37 <Eryda> Yeap.
32:56 <Avatar> sweeet
33:00 <Avatar> what level is your man
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33:08 <Avatar> level/s
33:33 <Eryda> Hm. Bard'll be 3 tomorrow, after another session.
33:58 <Eryda> I'm looking to start a freshie online. Any clues on what I should do?
34:17 <Avatar> have you registered on www.pfrpg.com.au
34:55 <Eryda> I just did. =)
35:05 <Avatar> sweet
35:09 <Avatar> you'll get invites to games now
37:15 <Eryda> Awesome. Any chance of any tier 1 games out there?
39:08 <Avatar> sec
39:25 <Avatar> I'm playing in a 1-5 today that might have free spots
39:45 <Avatar> do you have maptool
43:53 <Avatar> looks like it's a 3-7
46:57 <Ballig> !find jax
46:58 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=29
46:58 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=338
48:12 <Ballig> !find rabble
48:13 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=96
48:13 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=394
48:37 <Eryda> Sorry, was editing character sheet. ~.~ what's maptool?
48:52 <Avatar> it is a garbage mapping program that too many people like using
49:09 <Avatar> 99% of games that run in here use CA
49:28 <Avatar> which is in the downloads section of the site
49:33 <Eryda> I downloaded CA
50:14 <Eryda> Oh wait. Yours is 5-7. I declined that invitation. =)
50:37 <Avatar> yeah 5-9
50:56 <Avatar> I assume you know the rules about playing a pregen in those tiers
52:14 <Eryda> Hm. I haven't really done pre-gens though.
52:28 <Eryda> But regardless, I don't have the time to make that game.
52:42 <Eryda> I'm actually headed off to bed now. Working later in the evening.
52:45 <Avatar> yeah fair enough
52:50 <Avatar> accept when you can play
53:10 <Eryda> Tyvm for the invite, though. I look forward to making a table when I can! Cheers~
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55:09 <DaIdiot> ddddddddddd n ddddddddddddddddddddddd
55:38 <DaIdiot> dynamitte\
55:44 <DaIdiot> dddddd n dddddddddddddddddd
55:47 <DaIdiot> dddddd n dddddddddddddddddd
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02:28 <Avatar> rebooting
08:33 <Mekkis> it's nice how he's so honest
16:00 <Brunius> Ha
16:11 <Brunius> I just found a keylogger on another computer
17:28 <Brunius> So now I have to scan this computer
17:31 <Brunius> Bloody hell
17:38 <Brunius> Why the hell would he install a keylogger
28:55 <Ballig> in his defence, very few people intend to install a keylogger
29:12 <Brunius> He deliberately did so
29:17 <Brunius> (And admitted it)
29:26 <Mekkis> "he"?
29:32 <Ballig> his little brother
29:33 <Brunius> My brother
29:37 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should install Service Pack L
29:41 <Ballig> how old is your brother now
29:45 <Brunius> 13
29:53 <Ballig> why does your brother never get older but you do
29:55 <Brunius> Service Pack L?
29:59 <Mekkis> why does he have administrator access?
30:00 <Ballig> he means linux
30:40 <Brunius> Because if I took it away there would be much trouble
30:49 <Brunius> Although at this point I don't know if anyone could blame me
35:22 <Mekkis> maybe you should stop using OSes that he could install a keylogger on
35:38 <Ballig> a keylogger can be installed on all OSes
35:51 <Brunius> Not easily on some
35:53 <Mekkis> I doubt Brunius' brother could install a keylogger on linux
36:06 <Brunius> On his own? Maybe not.
36:17 <Brunius> But the internet has many guides on this very subject, I'm sure.
36:22 <Mekkis> especially without root access
36:43 * Mekkis googles installing keylogger on linux
38:13 <Mekkis> well.. It's easy if you have root access
38:23 <Mekkis> so don't give him root (or sudo) access
38:31 <Brunius> Mmmm
39:13 <Ballig> or he can not give him administrator access on windows
39:54 <Mekkis> you sure that'll work?
40:13 <Brunius> I've just set him to standard user
40:16 <Brunius> We'll see how it goes
40:52 <Ballig> assuming the security policies are set properly, yes
41:23 <Mekkis> the problem is that it's really hard to see what other breaches he's shoved on your system, inadvertently or otherwise
42:10 <Ballig> there are programs that scan for that kind of thing
42:26 <Mekkis> none of them work 100%
43:32 <nosratheno> whats your favourite distro Mekkis ?
44:22 <Mekkis> opensuse tends to work for me
01:19 <Mekkis> yours?
07:19 <nosratheno> I ran Arch for a year and debian after that...prefer Arch but Im lazy and not a poweruser, though I definitely appreciated the control that Arch provides.
12:28 <nosratheno> But if you want comparative ease then Mint is also nice 
13:04 <Mekkis> I'm still yet to find a better administration tool than Yast
13:11 <nosratheno> :P
13:50 <nosratheno> I used suse around 2004 or so...
14:09 <nosratheno> the distro-hopping days
15:05 <nosratheno> I like the mascot
17:09 <Mekkis> there aren't many illusion(shadow) spells in Pathfinder
17:14 <Mekkis> !spell Shadow Weapon
17:33 <diebot> Mekkis, SHADOW WEAPON illusion (shadow[shadow]) sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: 0 ft. Duration: 1 minute/level Save: Will disbelief (if interacted with) SR:yes
17:34 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/shadow_weapon.html
18:55 <Mekkis> !spell Shadow Evocation
18:58 <diebot> Mekkis, SHADOW EVOCATION illusion (shadow[shadow]) bard 5, sorcerer/wizard 5 1 standard action Range: see text Duration: see text Save: Will disbelief (if interacted with) SR:yes
18:58 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/shadow_evocation.html
19:40 <Mekkis> !spell Shadow Anchor
19:41 <diebot> Mekkis, SHADOW ANCHOR illusion (shadow[shadow]) bard 2, sorcerer/ wizard 2, witch 2 1 standard action Range: touch Duration: 1 round/level (D); see text Save:  SR:Save Will negates;  yes
19:42 <diebot> The target's shadow becomes a flexible tether to its current square. The creature can move up to 5 feet from that square without penalty. Moving farther than 5 feet from the tether point requires the target to make a bull rush combat maneuver check against a CMB of 10 + 1/2 your caster level + your Intelligence modifier (if a witch or wizard) or
19:42 <diebot> Charisma modifier (if a bard or sorcerer). The target takes a -1 penalty for every 5 feet of distance between it and its tethered square. Failing this check means the target's move is wasted and it cannot move farther away. If it fails this check by 10 or more, it is pulled 5 feet toward the tether square and is knocked prone. If it beats the check
19:42 <diebot> by 10 or more, the spell ends. This spell does not work on creatures that do not cast shadows or reflections. If the target uses a teleportation effect or leaves the current plane, the spell ends.
21:39 <nosratheno> Is the default desktop KDE ?
21:49 <Mekkis> no. There's no default desktop
21:59 <Mekkis> they make you choose on install
22:04 <nosratheno> aah
22:17 <Mekkis> (gnome, KDE, other (including LXDE, etc)
22:21 <Mekkis> I use kde 3.5
26:12 <Brunius> First desktop I used was KDE
28:44 <Ballig> my first desktop was GEOS 8-bit
39:47 <Mekkis> it's getting really dark
46:45 <Avro> hola
46:49 <Avro> anyone on
46:55 <Avro> and breathing
47:20 <N2H4> I'm breathing, so I guess I'm still alive.
47:24 <N2H4> Even if signs seem to tell me otherwise.
47:29 <Avro> lol
47:42 <Avro> looking for a few to fill in on a Pathfinder game
47:45 <Avro> interseted
48:13 <N2H4> how long would it be going until?
48:35 <Avro> bah gm just called it
48:39 <Avro> sorry
48:44 <Avro> running an hour late now
50:03 <Avatar> game tomorrow cancelled
50:11 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
50:12 <Ballig> is it because you hate us
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50:20 <Avatar> yes
50:26 <Ballig> :(
50:29 <Brunius> :(
50:42 <Avatar> darkwhite's roped me into GMing at blackburn, he's sick
51:07 <Ballig> did we have enough to play if you weren't GMing at Blackburn
51:17 <Avatar> no, only you and mekkis
51:22 <Avatar> otherwise this table takes priority
51:32 <Brunius> What if I sign up to it
51:33 <Brunius> Right now
51:47 <Avatar> too late, it's cancelled now
51:52 <Avatar> where were you an hour ago
52:02 <Brunius> Trying to get my ArmA to work
52:06 <Mekkis> eloh
52:15 <Avatar> pfs > arma !!
52:30 <Brunius> stuff I have already committed to > stuff I have yet to commit to
52:43 <Ballig> how do you commit to arma
52:55 <Ballig> do you say "oh, arma, I want to play you so much. I want to be inside you"
52:56 <Brunius> There's an organised thing going down 7am tomorrow
54:05 <Brunius> I love how my brother bought this game without even looking at the requirements
54:06 <Avatar> Ballig: I didn't realise cancelling a game spams everyone who hadn't accepted
54:20 <Ballig> obv
54:22 <Brunius> We're so far below the requirements that it's comical that it runs
54:50 <Ballig> what game is it
55:15 <Brunius> Dishonoured
00:12 <Avatar> is it any good
00:35 <Ballig> from memory, one of the abilities in Dishonoured is that you can slow down time
00:42 <Ballig> of course, Brunius probably can't tell the difference between that and regular gameplay
00:43 <Ballig> ha ha ha
01:21 <Brunius> "Um..well...you're not supposed to kill many people, cos it gives you a worse ending, and it's hard to go through it without killing people, but if you kill people it's really easy. And it's fun."
01:27 <Brunius> (Exact quote)
02:11 <Ballig> is that a quote from your brother
02:15 <Avatar> god, that 5 year old is at tomorrow's table
02:16 <Brunius> Yes.
02:19 <Brunius> Ha
02:30 <Ballig> is he really 5 years old
02:38 <Avatar> I think so
02:40 <Ballig> he could probably play Rabble better than I do
02:41 <Avatar> maybe 4
02:46 <Avatar> yeah
03:04 <Ballig> we should make entire tables of people under the age of 6
03:10 <Brunius> ...
03:11 <Ballig> they won't know what's happening, but we get credit for playing
03:12 <Avatar> one of the other guys has this really strong french accent
03:22 <Avatar> and I couldn't tell at times whether he was trying to do things in character or not
06:56 <Avatar> is anyone up to play storming the diamond gate right now
07:07 <Avatar> need one more person
07:09 <Avatar> to play up
10:17 <Ballig> we're not playing up
10:31 <Avro> hmm fell out of chat
10:50 <Avro> sooo anything fun happening
13:06 <Avatar> storming the diamond gate
13:08 <Avatar> oh yeah sing it to me
17:23 <kapow> Ooga booga!
17:40 <Mekkis> moin
17:51 <Mekkis> got a PC set up?
18:26 <kapow> Nope avatar was just bugging me to get in here on Skype.
19:51 <Avatar> yeah get your act together
19:53 <Avatar> god
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21:58 <Ballig> ha
22:50 <Avro> already did storming the diamond gate... 8(
30:00 <kapow> Stupid storm... Anyway I gotta scoot off for house inspections.
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29:10 <Steven> so............................
29:13 <Steven> im bored
08:57 <Mekkis> Avatar, will you reschedule Jester's Fraud?
09:44 <Mekkis> Steven, so... Could you cast a Focused Silent Image?
10:26 <Ballig> what, you want to know if Steven can cast one personally?
10:38 <Mekkis> no
10:43 <Mekkis> as in, do the rules allow it
10:55 <Mekkis> !feat focused spell
10:59 <diebot> Mekkis, FOCUSED SPELL [Metamagic] When you cast a spell that affects more than one creature, one opponent finds it more difficult to resist. 
10:59 <diebot> Benefit:  When casting a spell that affects or targets more than one creature, you can choose one target or creature within the spell effect. That creature's saving throw DC to resist the spell is increased by +2. You must choose which target to focus the spell on before casting the spell. A focused spell uses up a spell slot one level higher
10:59 <diebot> than the spell's actual level. Spells that do not require a saving throw to resist or lessen the spell's effect do not benefit from this feat. Source: APG
10:59 <Ballig> if you're asking the question, I'm going to say "no"
11:49 <Ballig> does a silent image "affect more than one creature"
12:05 <Mekkis> I would say yes
12:11 <Ballig> I would say no
12:19 <Mekkis> what's your reasoning?
12:21 <Brunius> I would say maybe
12:33 <Ballig> the spell itself doesn't affect anyone - it creates a figment
12:51 <Ballig> interacting with the figment can "affect" someone, but that's not the spell directly affecting them
13:42 <Mekkis> how is it not affecting them?
14:38 <Ballig> there's no target or area of affect
14:38 <Mekkis> I think I'll just ask on the forums and see if I can rope a ruling out of an [O]fficial source
14:51 <Mekkis> no spell has an "area of affect"
15:01 <Mekkis> it says "affect", not "effect"
15:03 <Ballig> lots of spells have an area that they affect
15:27 <Mekkis> you could affect an area with a silent image
15:41 <Mekkis> just by, say, making the image of a cloud of fog
16:09 <Ballig> I disagree with you
16:16 <Ballig> the spell creates a figment
16:19 <Ballig> the figment affects the area
16:45 <Ballig> I feel the spell mechanics provide enough of a disconnection between those two things
21:48 <Steven> i would say you could designate a person if you created a figment that covers the area the person is in, otherwise no you couldnt use focused spell
22:19 <Ballig> so you think that if someone is affected by the spell (and has to make a save) as soon as the spell is cast the feat would kick in?
22:42 <Steven> the only way i could see the feat interacting with the spell
23:28 <Mekkis> you couldn't say "this spell is harder to resist from the enemy at A3, and easier from everyone else"?
35:45 <Mekkis> it's so hard to choose a sorcerer bloodline
42:11 <Mekkis> !spelldesc shatter
42:14 <diebot> Mekkis, SHATTER evocation ([sonic]) bard 2, cleric 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (object); Will negates (object) or Fortitude half; see text SR:yes
42:14 <diebot> Shatter creates a loud, ringing noise that breaks brittle, nonmagical objects; sunders a single solid, nonmagical object; or damages a crystalline creature. Used as an area attack, shatter destroys nonmagical objects of crystal, glass, ceramic, or porcelain. All such objects within a 5-foot radius of the point of origin are smashed into dozens of
42:14 <diebot> pieces by the spell. Objects weighing more than 1 pound per your level are not affected, but all other objects of the appropriate composition are shattered. Alternatively, you can target shatter against a single solid nonmagical object, regardless of composition, weighing up to 10 pounds per caster level. Targeted against a crystalline creature (of
42:14 <diebot> any weight), shatter deals 1d6 points of sonic damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), with a Fortitude save for half damage.
46:10 <Mekkis> are there any sorcerer bloodlines that are good for a sorcerer who cares about illusions?
53:21 <Ballig> shadow, kind of a little bit
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