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00:13 <Mekkis> it's in Ultimate Combat, so you can do it!
10:38 <Mekkis> hmm
10:52 <Mekkis> what annoys me about the sorcerer is it feels a lot better at higher levels
11:13 <Ballig> mnemonic vestment makes it slightly better at mid levels
11:30 <Mekkis> oh
11:31 <Mekkis> that item
11:45 <Ballig> it's pretty crazy
11:48 <Mekkis> I will agree with that
12:39 <Mekkis> but 9 scenarios before you hit the ability to cast second level spells is painful
12:56 <Ballig> yeah
12:59 <Mekkis> Brunius, when you get second level spells, there are heaps of good ones to choose from
13:12 <Mekkis> I think I'll just go arcane bloodline
13:27 <Mekkis> !spell Litany of Righteousness
13:27 <diebot> Mekkis, LITANY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS evocation ([good, language-dependent]) inquisitor 3, paladin 2 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: 1 round Save: no SR:yes
13:28 <diebot> Calling down a litany of anathema, you make an evil more susceptible to the attacks of good creatures. If the target is evil, it takes double damage from attacks made by creatures with a good aura (from a class feature or as a creature with the good subtype). If the target also has the evil subtype; when it is hit with attacks made by creatures
13:28 <diebot> with a good aura, it is also dazzled for 1d4 rounds. If this spell targets a nonevil creature (or one that lacks the evil subtype), it has no effect, and the spell is wasted.  While subject to this spell, the target cannot be the target of another spell that has the word "litany" in the title.
14:01 <Brunius> Like I need more 'screw evil' effects
14:13 <Mekkis> !spell Saddle Surge
14:15 <diebot> Mekkis, SADDLE SURGE transmutation ([]) paladin 2 1 standard action Range: personal Duration: 1 round/level (D); see text Save:  SR:
14:15 <diebot> You and your mount form a perfect synergy that endows both of you with advantages based upon how far you travel each round. For every 5 feet your mount moves in a given round, you gain a +1 competence bonus on Ride checks and both you and your mount gain a +1 morale bonus on damage rolls made with weapons or natural attacks for 1 round. For
14:15 <diebot> instance, if your mount traveled 40 feet in a round, you would gain a +8 bonus on Ride checks and you and your mount would both gain a +8 bonus on damage rolls for 1 round, to a maximum bonus equal to your caster level. You must be mounted to enjoy the benefits of this spell. If you dismount, get knocked off, or take any other action that separates
14:15 <diebot> you from your mount, the spell immediately ends.
14:27 <Mekkis> I mean, sorcerer at 14th level would be great
14:57 <Brunius> That would be nice, if I get a chance to ride around
15:41 <Mekkis> better when you're using a bow
16:08 <Mekkis> all your arrows get a large damage bonus
32:21 <Steven> what spell are you waiting all the way till 14th to get?
33:18 <Ballig> greater shadow conjuration
36:08 <Steven> i remember playing a game where the boss spammed shadow conjuration
36:17 <Steven> fireballs and all sorts of other things
36:24 <Steven> and folnor made every save
36:47 <Steven> it was most annoying for the GM
39:59 <Mekkis> Steven, no spell in particular
40:24 <Mekkis> just that sorcerers feel like one-trick ponies until then
40:48 <Steven> right...
40:53 <Ballig> what's the trick
41:11 <Mekkis> epends on the sorcerer
49:05 <Avatar> yo
49:23 <Brunius> yo
49:27 <Brunius> check yo pms
51:13 <Mekkis> meh. Fire always works
51:21 <Mekkis> yo
52:04 <Avatar> why do GMs only get credit for GMing a scenario once
52:54 <Brunius> To keep people buying scenarios
52:55 <Mekkis> I'm not sure. I personally think it's a bad thing
53:15 <Mekkis> I think we should be encouraging GMs to run scenarios multiple tiems
53:23 <Avatar> if I run out of scenarios to GM and they don't have any new ones to run, I will stop running them
53:34 <Mekkis> really?!
53:37 <Avatar> yep
53:50 <Avatar> I don't want to rerun scenarios for no credit
54:08 <Mekkis> I've GMed a bunch of scenarios for no credit. I actually prefer GMing scenarios I've GMed before
54:14 <Brunius> You're aware credit isn't the only thing to come out of PFS, Avatar?
54:28 <Avatar> yes brunius I am aware that credit is not the only thing to come out of pfs
54:39 <Mekkis> put me down for running Sanos Abduction, starting at 9am AEST, next Saturday pleasem Avatar 
55:20 <Mekkis> unless you're planning on running something
56:26 <Avatar> I'm playing next saturday
56:36 <Mekkis> what and where?
56:38 <Avatar> what tier is sanos abduction
56:43 <Avatar> portal of the sacred rune
56:43 <Mekkis> 3-7
57:21 <Mekkis> and who :P
57:33 <Avatar> tetsu's running it
58:56 <Steven> devils disagree
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38:45 <Steven> i always view them as a money sink if you are swimming in it
39:16 <Steven> after Ausk finishes The Ruby Pheonix Tourny he will have something like 53k
39:56 <Steven> so unless something else catches my eye i will probably buy one of those for him
40:35 <Avatar> I would sooner upgrade my belt of dex
40:46 <Avatar> cheaper I think
40:56 <Brunius> RPT has about a bajillion items on the chronicle
40:59 <Avatar> yeah, 12000gp
41:10 <Steven> oh yeah dex is good
41:25 <Avatar> I feel dirty upgrading my already high attack/damage
41:31 <Steven> almost as good as an extra attack lol
41:41 <Avatar> yeah I had no plans to upgrade it further
42:26 <Avatar> sniper goggles would be cool for a gunslinger, if they did more than just help sneak attack
44:32 <Avatar> 4000gp for low light vision isn't terrible
48:07 <Avatar> !item shoes of lightning leaping
48:08 <diebot> Avatar, SHOES OF LIGHTNING LEAPING [moderate transmutation] CL:6 feet 10500gp, 1lb
48:08 <diebot> These short black shoes fit tightly around the wearer's feet and bear designs of leaping arcs of lightning and wild winds. Once per day on command, a creature wearing these boots can transform into lightning and move up to 50 feet in a straight line, re-materializing at the far end of the lightning bolt. Creatures in the path of the lightning take
48:08 <diebot> 6d6 points of electricity damage and objects take damage as per the lightning bolt spell. If the lightning strikes an object or barrier and fails to burst through it, the creature wearing the boots appears next to the impacted object and is staggered for 1 round. Movement while in lightning form does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
48:15 <Avatar> tell me THAT'S not cool
48:33 <Mekkis> that is cool
48:47 <Ballig> cool but potentially overpriced
48:56 <Avatar> you reckon?
48:57 <Mekkis> not really
49:07 <Avatar> how is it overpriced
49:16 <Mekkis> you need one form of "escape from grapple" 
49:30 <Mekkis> sure, it's a little more expensive than Cape of the Monteback
49:34 <Avatar> I saw another one that lets you teleport 30ft away from a grapple
49:36 <Ballig> other than it just being a lightning bolt, the movement aspect will end up being hard to use
49:36 <Mekkis> but not that much
49:48 <Ballig> how often do you get 50 feet of movement in a straight line that won't make you hit a wall or some other object
49:50 <Ballig> and stagger you for a round
50:11 <Mekkis> up to 50'
50:28 <Avatar> yeah the idea is that 50' is enough to get away though
50:31 <Avatar> solid point
50:34 <Ballig> yeah because if you hit a barrier before 50 feet you don't move 50 feet
50:37 <Ballig> you can't be like "I will only make my lightning bolt 10 feet"
50:50 <Mekkis> really?
50:52 <Avatar> it says up to 50 feet
51:00 <Ballig> yes, because if you hit a barrier you don't go the full 50
51:06 <Ballig> it doesn't say you can choose how long to make it
51:22 <Mekkis> no. it says if you hit a barrier but don't break through it
51:28 <Avatar> that's not how I read it
51:41 <Avatar> open to interpretation either way though
51:49 <Ballig> so you think you can move only 10 feet with it, if you choose?
51:53 <Mekkis> I do
52:02 <Avatar> yeah I'd say you could
52:02 <Ballig> I disagree with you
52:30 <Avatar> I'm going to forum that one
52:35 <Mekkis> thanks, Avatar 
52:44 <Mekkis> Mytiazair might want to buy one
52:59 <Mekkis> he doesn't have a "get out of grapple" method yet
53:02 <Avatar> wish I'd taken note of what the other item I was looking at was that does 30ft
53:07 <Avatar> and gnomes can do 400ft with it 
53:21 <Mekkis> (other than 'Cast dimension door' and hope to make the concentration)
53:31 <Mekkis> I'll search
54:09 <Mekkis> !item boots of escape
54:10 <diebot> Mekkis, BOOTS OF ESCAPE [moderate conjuration] CL:5 feet 8000gp, 1lb
54:10 <diebot> These sturdy leather-soled cloth boots have straps at the ankles and calves to ensure a snug fit. Once per day, when the wearer of the boots is grappled, pinned, or entangled, she may transfer herself to any spot within 30 feet as if using a dimension door spell. A gnome wearing these boots may instead transfer herself up to 400 feet away.
54:17 <Avatar> that's it
54:24 <Avatar> both feet slots
54:34 <Mekkis> I should add a search function
55:03 <Avatar> that description sounds much the same as the shoes
55:18 <Avatar> except there's no mention of consequences for teleporting less than 30ft
57:18 <Mekkis> !item escape ladder
57:24 <diebot> Mekkis, ESCAPE LADDER [moderate transmutation] CL:7 none 4000gp, 1lb
57:24 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/escape_ladder.html
57:31 <Ballig> the boots of escape are pretty clear - you choose a spot within 30 feet
58:49 <Avatar> any spot within 30 feet, yeah
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01:41 <Mekkis> I'd probably go with the shoes of leaping rather than the boots of escape or the monteback cape
04:38 <Mekkis> I think a "get out of a grapple" item is required after about level 7.
04:54 <Mekkis> not actually sure what the level where its required is though
05:03 <Avatar> yeah that's buck's achilles heel and I don't like it
05:20 <Avatar> in fact I think it got him semi close to death once or twice
05:30 <Avatar> you'd think I'd learn
05:42 <Mekkis> Snickers almost died to it in the Market
05:49 <Mekkis> Itzamna was there
05:57 <Avatar> yeah I won't forget that
05:58 <Mekkis> Perfection bravely saved her
06:14 <Avatar> itzamna almost killed her
06:30 <Mekkis> hey
06:36 <Avatar> hey nothing !
06:49 <Mekkis> Itzamna TOLD you to do plan A when encountering that sort of enemy
06:55 <Mekkis> aka "run the fuck away"
07:08 <Avatar> you can't go ahead with plan A before the party agrees
07:18 <Mekkis> sure you can
07:26 <Avatar> then you're responsible
07:29 <Avatar> it's on you
07:31 <Mekkis> yes
07:46 <Avatar> why are you considering the shoes over the cape
07:54 <Avatar> the cape looks better
08:00 <Mekkis> because I'm wearing a cloak already
08:05 <Mekkis> I think
08:07 <Avatar> resistance
08:09 <Avatar> ?
08:12 <Mekkis> I think
08:18 <Mekkis> !find Mytiazair
08:19 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=148
08:19 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=284
08:38 <Mekkis> !findchar Mytiazair
08:40 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Mytiazair, number: 148( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=148 )
08:47 <Avatar> upload that beotch
09:12 <Mekkis> ok...
09:19 <Mekkis> hmmm
10:38 <Mekkis> Ballig, could you perhaps make !find discount any characters for inactive campaigns, or perhaps give diebot readonly access to some of tables?
12:05 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p663?Shoes-of-Lightning-Leaping-Must-move-50ft-or#3
14:28 <Mekkis> uploaded, Avatar 
15:09 <Avatar> sif not get improved iron will
16:16 <Mekkis> isn't it obvious that I only got iron will to meet the prereqs?
17:00 <Avatar> prereqs for what
17:10 <Mekkis> Master Spy, I think
17:26 <Avatar> if you're getting iron will you may as well get improved
17:35 <Avatar> the only reason you don't get improved is because it requires you to pick up iron will
17:35 <Mekkis> !feat improved iron will
17:36 <diebot> Mekkis, IMPROVED IRON WILL []Prereq:  Iron Will.  Your clarity of thought allows you to resist mental attacks.
17:36 <diebot> Benefit:  Once per day, you may reroll a Will save. You must decide to use this ability before the results are revealed. You must take the second roll, even if it is worse. Source: Core
17:48 <Avatar> that's a shirt reroll right there
17:56 <Mekkis> I'll just use my shirt reroll then
18:25 <Avatar> it's like having 2 shirt rerolls
18:34 <Avatar> cmon do I need to explain rerolls to you
18:37 <Steven> imma go shooting
18:37 <Avatar> you are like the king of rerolls
18:54 <Mekkis> like having the Diviner preroll, the gnomish reroll, the reroll boon and the shirt reroll?
20:28 <Brunius> At 6pm?
20:36 <Steven> its noon here
20:54 <Avatar> yes
21:08 <Brunius> So you're in -7
21:08 <Mekkis> I've never had a character with all four of them
21:24 <Steven> no
21:25 <Mekkis> closest is Grolschmir, with three
21:44 <Brunius> -8?
21:47 <Brunius> Dammit, I don't know.
22:13 <Steven> yup
24:48 <Avatar> there's a lot of pretty good cloaks
25:05 <Mekkis> yeah
25:26 <Avatar> one that gives low light vision, darkness on command and then lowlight vision and darkvision during that darkness, 10000gp
25:28 <Mekkis> I hate cloaks of resistance
25:39 <Mekkis> what's it called?
25:41 <Avatar> that's mass blindness once per day
25:46 <Avatar> cloak of the duskwalker
25:55 <Mekkis> !item cloak of the duskwalker
25:56 <diebot> Mekkis, CLOAK OF THE DUSKWALKER [faint illusion] CL:3 shoulders 10000gp, 1lb
25:56 <diebot> This dark, velvety cloak billows with a dramatic flourish in its wearer's wake. The cloak grants its wearer low-light vision. Once per day, on command, the wearer can surround herself with darkness, as the darkness spell. While this darkness is active, the cloak also grants the wearer darkvision 60 feet as well as low-light vision.
26:02 <Mekkis> better because of no save, right?
26:19 <Steven> my character ausk has a cloak of resistance +2
26:25 <Mekkis> unfortunately Darkness has a bunch of mechanical issues
26:37 <Mekkis> Steven, so does Mytiazair. I still don't like them
27:31 <Steven> always a decent cloak to have when your other cloaks aren't giving a desired effect
27:48 <Avatar> it's too much of a default go-to
27:54 <Avatar> just to increase the numbers
28:03 <Avatar> you need something that has an effect
28:07 <Mekkis> I feel it gets in the way of getting a "cool" item
28:14 <Avatar> of all the choices that are there, cmon
28:48 <Mekkis> I was really happy when they moved all the enhancement to ability items into the headband and the belt slots
29:10 <Mekkis> that's one big improvement of Pathfinder over 3.5
29:19 <Avatar> what were they in 3.5
29:41 <Sn0uu> rable
30:05 <N2H4> all kinds of stuff.
30:12 <Mekkis> Headband of intellect, cloak of charisma, peripet of wisdom, gloves of dex, gloves of +2 str, belt of +4 and +6 str, peripet of con iirc
30:44 <N2H4> I remember the cloak of charisma, and I thought dex was boots, but I could be wrong.
30:54 <Mekkis> dex was gloves
30:57 <N2H4> and yeah, belt was traditionally str.
31:04 <Steven> gloves
31:06 <Mekkis> only for +4 and +6
31:11 <Mekkis> gloves for +2
31:28 <Steven> str was gauntlets
31:36 <Mekkis> for +2
31:41 <Steven> yup
31:48 <Mekkis> but a belt for +4 and +6
31:52 <Mekkis> so no upgrading :)
32:32 <Steven> when they put them all into two different slots, it made it so people couldn't just stat boost like mad
32:54 <Mekkis> it also opened the other slots up for Cool Stuff
33:01 <Steven> yup
33:11 <Mekkis> the other solution is what happened with the Magic Item Compendium on p234
34:11 <Mekkis> "Here's a table of generic boring stuff you can shove onto your items"
34:21 <Avatar> that's right
34:33 <Steven> i think imma go to the store
34:39 <Steven> buy some biscuits and gravy making
34:45 <Mekkis> but some people like Avatar and Ballig didn't like it
36:15 <N2H4> We used to use the table for ordering custom made magic items in 3.5 sometimes.
36:37 <N2H4> Turns out power scaling goes nuts when your players pretty much design their own items.
36:52 <Steven> go figure
36:58 <Mekkis> well, it's better than the one in the DMG
37:06 <N2H4> especially since bonuses to skill checks are pretty damn cheap.
37:31 <Steven> i know i am going to make a custom item in walters homebrew
37:43 <N2H4> If you got a character design that can make a few skill checks do all kinds of things, you're halfway into broken-ville.
37:57 <Mekkis> skills aren't on the table
38:18 <N2H4> Skill bonuses?
38:52 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/MICp234.pdf
39:05 <Steven> that will let me cast fickle winds on myself
39:19 <N2H4> There was a table like this in 3.5 somewhere.
39:21 <N2H4> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#Table-Estimating-Magic-Item-Gold-Piece-Values
39:27 <Mekkis> yes
39:29 <Mekkis> in the DMG
39:35 <Mekkis> not the word ESTIMATING
39:45 <Mekkis> note*
40:12 <N2H4> Yep. And if you let players use it to order up stuff, shit gets crazy.
40:26 <Mekkis> sure
42:17 <Avatar> there are bracers which let you use glibness once per day
42:21 <Mekkis> reminds me of http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#mantleofEpicSpellResistance
42:23 <Avatar> 7900gp
43:00 <Avatar> I think snickers has just under 20000gp too
44:45 <Mekkis> snickers has the Cape, right?
45:02 <Avatar> no she has a catching cape which she's never ended up using
45:21 <Avatar> pretty good buy, once-off 20% miss chance for an encounter, 250gp or something
45:37 <Mekkis> I thought she learnt from that time in the market
46:09 <Avatar> she learnt about how you are an unreliable party member
46:09 <Mekkis> she learnt about how you are an unreliable party member
47:31 <Avatar> +20 to bluff once per day without needing UMD is pretty sexy when you already have a lot of ranks in bluff
47:38 <Avatar> usually you don't need to make it more than once per day anyway
49:30 <Avatar> snickers already has 16 on bluff, glibness would boost that to +36
49:37 <Avatar> what kind of lies can you tell with 1d20+36
45:26 <Avatar> zzz
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58:16 <Brunius> Avatar
58:19 <Brunius> When is the game
21:52 <Avatar> what, at blackburn?
22:03 <Avatar> it's quest for perfection 1
22:04 <Brunius> no in the channel
22:05 <Avatar> do you want to play
22:17 <Brunius> I died in QfP1 :(
22:37 <Avatar> sux :(
22:46 <Avatar> at least you saw the end of the scenario
23:10 <Avatar> better to die at the end than the first or second encounter
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40:33 <Sn0uu> true
40:40 <Ballig> false!
41:20 <Sn0uu> right!
56:16 <Brunius> Solid copy!
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32:07 <fued> yo
32:19 <Sn0uu> u should have said left
32:28 <Sn0uu> Anyone wanna support me while I try ADC?
32:29 <fued> left
32:36 <fued> which adc
32:46 <Sn0uu> Ashe :)
32:48 <fued> nope lol
32:55 <fued> i think ashe is terrible haha
33:17 <fued> only reason to pick her, is if your team has absolutely no initiation
43:09 <Ballig> what's adc
43:26 <Brunius> analogue-digital convertor.
43:35 <Ballig> it all makes sense now
43:35 <Brunius> (conversion?)
44:14 <Brunius> Attack Damage Carry
44:17 <Sn0uu> we just did easy bots in 10 mins mid
45:06 <N2H4> yo.
45:48 <N2H4> ashe? Yeah, shes okay, but not fantastic. There are much stronger picks.
45:48 <Sn0uu> sup
45:53 <Sn0uu> like
45:57 <Sn0uu> wait...
46:11 <Sn0uu> what would be the next best ADC thats snowy or icy?
46:15 <Sn0uu> by default :p
46:27 <N2H4> None of them.
46:32 <Sn0uu> Ashe it is
46:35 <Mekkis> most of them work
46:54 <N2H4> Ashe, Sej, and Anivia have the cold market cornered.
47:15 <Sn0uu> but I need a cold ADC
47:26 <Mekkis> most ADCs don't care about the cold
47:33 <Mekkis> just don't get them too wet
47:50 <Sn0uu> o_O
47:51 <N2H4> But I can't expect much out of you if you're gonna play for aesthetics. Hell, even my sister got past that.
48:02 <Sn0uu> :p
48:04 <Sn0uu> but its FUN!
48:07 <Sn0uu> -whine-
48:22 <N2H4> When she first started playing, she'd only play the pretty girls. Then she started experimenting with other stuff.
48:24 <Brunius> Wouldn't cold make them work better?
48:29 <N2H4> Turns out the best pick for her is Garen.
48:50 <Mekkis> depends how cold, Brunius 
49:24 <Brunius> -273 ?
50:57 <Sn0uu> bahahaha
50:58 <Sn0uu> thats awesome
50:59 <Mekkis> even -150 is enough to do some damage, depending on what support circuitry you're using
01:52 <Sn0uu> oh
12:43 <Ballig> Mekkis: do you think that the summoner's ability to summon monsters as a standard action is equal in power to the summoner's eidolon?
13:31 <Mekkis> I've never thought on comparing them on power. At 1st and 2nd level, no.
14:08 <Mekkis> Higher than that, potentially. Assuming you'd be splashing out on Augment summoning / sacred summons etc
14:53 <Ballig> I'm disappointed that master summoner is no longer legal
14:59 <Mekkis> whether or not it's "equal in power", I'd still attest that it's powerful enough to play.
23:48 <fued> garens a best pick for someone? isnt he the worst champ in the game? lol
27:54 <Sn0uu> aha! so Ashe is better
28:08 <Sn0uu> It makes me sad that I can
28:20 <Sn0uu> 't remember ever playing a D&D char past lvl 2
31:13 <Mekkis> it is
33:04 <Sn0uu> I'm not even sure it's actually happened
33:20 <fued> u never played baldurs gate/nwn?
33:21 <fued> lol
33:37 <Sn0uu> I love BG
34:36 <Mekkis> it's not really D&D though
34:38 <Mekkis> it's close
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35:59 <Mekkis> Hammer the gap
36:54 <fued> hoping to release the kickstarter for my game in a day or two
37:36 <fued> was supposed to be tonight, be had an artist/designer flake out and quit
38:16 <Ballig> hammer the gap doesn't seem that great to me
39:01 <Ballig> it seems like the poor man's weapon specialization
39:01 <Mekkis> I agree, Ballig 
39:17 <Mekkis> at least you don't need to be a fighter
39:30 <Ballig> yeah it's easier to get
39:47 <Ballig> I think there are usually better options though
40:16 <Mekkis> I would be surprised if there is any time when there isn't
40:23 <Mekkis> hmm
40:28 <Mekkis> full-attacking a wall
40:50 <Ballig> how often are you strapped for time when attacking a wall
41:09 <Mekkis> it's happened. Twice I think
41:36 <Mekkis> trapped in a room filling with water
42:36 <Steven> i could see hammer the gap being decent if you had a monk that could hit frequently
44:16 <Ballig> it's not necessarily restricted to melee either
44:45 <Ballig> should be able to combine it with rapid shot
46:02 <Mekkis> hmm
46:22 <Sn0uu> What HAPPEN?@?@?!?!?!!?
47:03 <Sn0uu> be had? :s
47:15 <Ballig> are you high
47:36 <Sn0uu> oh, we*
47:37 <Mekkis> Somebody set us up the bomb !!
48:51 <Sn0uu> YES
49:08 <Sn0uu> send out the zigz!
49:36 <Steven> yeah i think hammer the gap could be really awesome with say a gunslinger
49:36 <Mekkis> you missed the "we get signal" bit
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39:21 <BoomerET> Hello everyone
39:36 <Ballig> sup boomz
40:46 <BoomerET> Living the good life here in Paradise.
40:50 <BoomerET> You?
40:57 <Ballig> where's Paradise
42:03 <BoomerET> Northern California
42:38 <Ballig> why is that Paradise
43:03 <BoomerET> Because it's where I live silly.
43:20 <BoomerET> Everyplace I am is Paradise.
43:32 <BoomerET> When I was in Brisbane, that was Paradise :)
44:05 <Ballig> no it wasn't because Mekkis was also there
44:06 <Ballig> ha ha ha
44:37 <Brunius> Didn't you live there once
44:55 <Ballig> once
46:36 <BoomerET> I only spent about a month there, but it was probably one of the best times of my life.
47:13 <BoomerET> An IRC guy I've known since '96 (from .au) committed suicide recently, no idea why.
47:26 <Ballig> was he in Brisbane
47:32 <Ballig> was it Mekkis
47:33 <Ballig> is Mekkis a ghost
47:36 <BoomerET> We were co-founders of an N64 release group. Never met in person.
48:55 <BoomerET> seems like I haven't played PFS in months
48:57 <Ballig> what does an N64 release group do
49:42 <Brunius> Release N64s
49:49 <BoomerET> um, it's a kind word for pirates
50:03 <Ballig> are you a pirate
50:14 <Brunius> Can I have a cannon
50:19 <BoomerET> not anymore
50:19 <N2H4> Do you have a parrot? A peg leg? A hook?
50:21 <Ballig> do you have a parrot
50:33 <BoomerET> Argh
53:22 <Ballig> don't you mean Arr
53:23 <BoomerET> But I do go on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride every time we go to Disneyland (a few times a year)
55:51 <Steven> do you know the song?
01:17 <BoomerET> We have the CD in my wife's van.
04:47 <Steven> last time i went to disney land
04:58 <Steven> we rode on pirates of the cari
05:16 <Steven> and my brother and i sung the song at the top of our lungs the whole way through
07:01 <fued> bloody pirates!
07:07 <Steven> indeed!
08:10 <BoomerET> Hahahahaha
08:41 <fued> meh my games are f2p anyway, pirates dont usually bother with those
09:03 <Steven> why would we want something not worth money?
09:55 <fued> for the benefits it provides
11:23 <Steven> but with money we can just steal whatever benefits we want and keep our money too
11:48 <Steven> cause pirates are thieves
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17:02 <fued> they are also free advertisment
17:24 <fued> not the most effective source, but still there
57:49 <N2H4> Theres probably a couple cases where pirating has lead to more success than other forms of advertising.
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00:45 <Mekkis> when did they first call it piracy?
01:23 <N2H4> What is 2003, Alexs?
01:51 <N2H4> Internet Trivia for 400.
17:48 <Mekkis> anyone looked at the mythic adventures playtest?
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46:26 <Mekkis> put me down for running Sanos Abduction, starting at 9am, next Saturday
46:29 <Mekkis> 3-7
46:36 <Mekkis> please, Avatar or Ballig 
47:30 <Brunius> !recentsheets
47:33 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:07 413 James
47:33 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:07 394 Rabble
47:33 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:06 333 Bairaq
47:33 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:06 285 Deceased
47:33 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 11 00:06 269 Bobbob
47:38 <Brunius> Avatar is probably still at Blackburn
47:48 <Mekkis> !history 333
47:50 <diebot> Mekkis, r41 | vpsirc | 2012-11-17 00:07:52 -0500 (Sat, 17 Nov 2012) | 1 line
47:51 <diebot> Mekkis, r36 | vpsirc | 2012-10-20 00:09:08 -0400 (Sat, 20 Oct 2012) | 1 line
47:51 <diebot> Mekkis, r4 | vpsirc | 2012-07-21 02:54:28 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
47:51 <diebot> Mekkis, r3 | initial load | 2012-07-21 00:05:09 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
47:57 <Mekkis> !diff 333 r36
47:59 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/333r36.txt
55:41 <Mekkis> Brunius, consider
55:52 <Mekkis> !spell Litany of Sloth
55:53 <diebot> Mekkis, LITANY OF SLOTH enchantment (compulsion[language-dependent, mind-affecting]) antipaladin 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: 1 round Save: no SR:yes
55:53 <diebot> With a litany against the wages of sloth, you slow the target's defenses. The target cannot make attacks of opportunity or cast spells defensively.  While subject to this spell, the target cannot be the target of another spell that has the word "litany" in the title.
55:55 <Mekkis> for Bairaq
57:11 <Brunius> It's a swift action, so I can do it anytime?
58:20 <N2H4> any time you don't do other swift actions.
59:39 <Mekkis> you can do one a turn
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59:53 <Mekkis> it's in Ultimate Combat, so you can do it!
12:39 <Mekkis> Brunius, when you get second level spells, there are heaps of good ones to choose from
13:07 <Mekkis> !spell Litany of Righteousness
13:08 <diebot> Mekkis, LITANY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS evocation ([good, language-dependent]) inquisitor 3, paladin 2 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: 1 round Save: no SR:yes
13:08 <diebot> Calling down a litany of anathema, you make an evil more susceptible to the attacks of good creatures. If the target is evil, it takes double damage from attacks made by creatures with a good aura (from a class feature or as a creature with the good subtype). If the target also has the evil subtype; when it is hit with attacks made by creatures
13:08 <diebot> with a good aura, it is also dazzled for 1d4 rounds. If this spell targets a nonevil creature (or one that lacks the evil subtype), it has no effect, and the spell is wasted.  While subject to this spell, the target cannot be the target of another spell that has the word "litany" in the title.
13:41 <Brunius> Like I need more 'screw evil' effects
13:53 <Mekkis> !spell Saddle Surge
13:55 <diebot> Mekkis, SADDLE SURGE transmutation ([]) paladin 2 1 standard action Range: personal Duration: 1 round/level (D); see text Save:  SR:
13:56 <diebot> You and your mount form a perfect synergy that endows both of you with advantages based upon how far you travel each round. For every 5 feet your mount moves in a given round, you gain a +1 competence bonus on Ride checks and both you and your mount gain a +1 morale bonus on damage rolls made with weapons or natural attacks for 1 round. For
13:56 <diebot> instance, if your mount traveled 40 feet in a round, you would gain a +8 bonus on Ride checks and you and your mount would both gain a +8 bonus on damage rolls for 1 round, to a maximum bonus equal to your caster level. You must be mounted to enjoy the benefits of this spell. If you dismount, get knocked off, or take any other action that separates
13:56 <diebot> you from your mount, the spell immediately ends.
14:37 <Brunius> That would be nice, if I get a chance to ride around
15:21 <Mekkis> better when you're using a bow
15:48 <Mekkis> all your arrows get a large damage bonus
48:45 <Avatar> yo
49:03 <Brunius> yo
49:08 <Brunius> check yo pms
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51:00 <Mekkis> yo
51:45 <Avatar> why do GMs only get credit for GMing a scenario once
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52:34 <Brunius> To keep people buying scenarios
52:35 <Mekkis> I'm not sure. I personally think it's a bad thing
52:55 <Mekkis> I think we should be encouraging GMs to run scenarios multiple tiems
53:04 <Avatar> if I run out of scenarios to GM and they don't have any new ones to run, I will stop running them
53:13 <Mekkis> really?!
53:18 <Avatar> yep
53:31 <Avatar> I don't want to rerun scenarios for no credit
53:48 <Mekkis> I've GMed a bunch of scenarios for no credit. I actually prefer GMing scenarios I've GMed before
53:54 <Brunius> You're aware credit isn't the only thing to come out of PFS, Avatar?
54:08 <Avatar> yes brunius I am aware that credit is not the only thing to come out of pfs
54:19 <Mekkis> put me down for running Sanos Abduction, starting at 9am AEST, next Saturday pleasem Avatar 
55:00 <Mekkis> unless you're planning on running something
56:07 <Avatar> I'm playing next saturday
56:16 <Mekkis> what and where?
56:18 <Avatar> what tier is sanos abduction
56:23 <Mekkis> 3-7
56:23 <Avatar> portal of the sacred rune
57:01 <Mekkis> and who :P
57:08 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 24th 10am (tier 3-7,Mekkis) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au 
57:13 <Avatar> tetsu's running it
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31:49 <Mekkis> I meant which character are you taking?
35:37 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 24th 10am (tier 3-7,Mekkis) || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au 
35:37 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Nov 18 15:57:27 2012
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54:37 <Mekkis> I meant to ask who you were taking to play it
55:49 <Avatar> snickers
55:54 <Avatar> she has the boon from wonders in the weave
32:48 <fued> left
32:56 <fued> which adc
33:05 <Sn0uu> Ashe :)
33:08 <fued> nope lol
33:14 <fued> i think ashe is terrible haha
33:37 <fued> only reason to pick her, is if your team has absolutely no initiation
43:29 <Ballig> what's adc
43:46 <Brunius> analogue-digital convertor.
43:54 <Ballig> it all makes sense now
43:55 <Brunius> (conversion?)
44:33 <Brunius> Attack Damage Carry
44:37 <Sn0uu> we just did easy bots in 10 mins mid
45:26 <N2H4> yo.
46:07 <N2H4> ashe? Yeah, shes okay, but not fantastic. There are much stronger picks.
46:08 <Sn0uu> sup
46:13 <Sn0uu> like
46:17 <Sn0uu> wait...
46:30 <Sn0uu> what would be the next best ADC thats snowy or icy?
46:34 <Sn0uu> by default :p
46:47 <N2H4> None of them.
46:52 <Sn0uu> Ashe it is
46:55 <Mekkis> most of them work
47:14 <N2H4> Ashe, Sej, and Anivia have the cold market cornered.
47:34 <Sn0uu> but I need a cold ADC
47:46 <Mekkis> most ADCs don't care about the cold
47:53 <Mekkis> just don't get them too wet
48:10 <Sn0uu> o_O
48:11 <N2H4> But I can't expect much out of you if you're gonna play for aesthetics. Hell, even my sister got past that.
48:22 <Sn0uu> :p
48:24 <Sn0uu> but its FUN!
48:27 <Sn0uu> -whine-
48:42 <N2H4> When she first started playing, she'd only play the pretty girls. Then she started experimenting with other stuff.
48:43 <Brunius> Wouldn't cold make them work better?
48:48 <N2H4> Turns out the best pick for her is Garen.
49:10 <Mekkis> depends how cold, Brunius 
49:44 <Brunius> -273 ?
51:16 <Sn0uu> bahahaha
51:18 <Sn0uu> thats awesome
51:19 <Mekkis> even -150 is enough to do some damage, depending on what support circuitry you're using
58:35 <Avatar> buck has a little over 20000gp
58:45 <Avatar> maybe I should get a ring of invisibility
59:14 <Brunius> Do it
59:18 <Brunius> Do you really need it
59:24 <Avatar> most certainly don't
59:27 <Avatar> what do you do with 20000gp
59:39 <Avatar> I could buy a portable hole
59:42 <Brunius> Scrolls?
59:50 <Avatar> or hey! a flying carpet
00:24 <Avatar> why would you get a flying carpet for 20000gp when a broom of flying is 17000gp
01:07 <Avatar> controlled by spoken commands
01:09 <Brunius> Because it's a carpet
01:11 <Brunius> and not a broom
01:14 <Avatar> does that mean it saves actions
01:47 <Brunius> Dunno
02:11 <Sn0uu> oh
03:34 <Avatar> ring of evasion is only 25000gp
03:40 <Avatar> maybe I should wait for that, that's one more scenario
07:14 <Avatar> um
07:22 <Avatar> +10000gp to armor to give it the delving special ability
07:31 <Avatar> which lets you burrow through rock
07:40 <Avatar> oh wait, soil
08:04 <Avatar> that is probably not that good if it can't be used indoors
13:03 <Ballig> Mekkis: do you think that the summoner's ability to summon monsters as a standard action is equal in power to the summoner's eidolon?
13:51 <Mekkis> I've never thought on comparing them on power. At 1st and 2nd level, no.
14:28 <Mekkis> Higher than that, potentially. Assuming you'd be splashing out on Augment summoning / sacred summons etc
15:12 <Ballig> I'm disappointed that master summoner is no longer legal
15:19 <Mekkis> whether or not it's "equal in power", I'd still attest that it's powerful enough to play.
16:13 <Avatar> !find armor of insults
16:13 <dicebot> Avatar, no results found. Give me a few minutes to update my database.
16:36 <Avatar> !item armor of insults
16:39 <diebot> Avatar, ARMOR OF INSULTS [moderate enchantment] CL:7 armor 16175gp, 20lb
16:40 <diebot> Each metal bit of this suit of +1 studded leather looks more like a tiny sneering face than a simple stud. Once per day the wearer of the armor may command the mouths to unleash a torrent of verbal abuse directed against every hostile creature within 60 feet who can see and hear the wearer. Each such creature must make a DC 16 Will saving throw to
16:40 <diebot> avoid suffering an overwhelming compulsion to attack the wearer for the next 7 rounds. If the creature is unable to attack the wearer on its next turn, or attacking the wearer would put the creature at risk (moving through a threatened square, charging into a pit, and so on) it can act normally that turn. This is a mind-affecting sonic effect, and
16:40 <diebot> has no effect on creatures that do not use a spoken language.
17:22 <Brunius> 16 is pretty easy to get at your level
18:52 <Avatar> celestial armor isn't bad
18:57 <Avatar> fly once per day and it's +3 chain mail
19:04 <Avatar> -2 AC penalty
19:12 <Avatar> 22400gp
19:33 <Avatar> +3 chainmail is +9 to AC
19:50 <Avatar> I'm using a +1 elven chain at the moment, which is +7 to AC
19:58 <Avatar> I could sell that and have enough I think
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20:16 <Avatar> steven you are missing all the action
20:27 <Avatar> armor of insults was a joke
20:40 <Avatar> fitting for buck, if it didn't make everything go to attack him
21:13 <Steven> say what?
21:30 <Avatar> I have 20000gp to spend with my gunslinger
23:56 <Steven> cool cool
24:08 <fued> garens a best pick for someone? isnt he the worst champ in the game? lol
25:01 <Avatar> is celestial armor worth it for an additional +2 to AC and fly once per day
25:08 <Avatar> for 22400gp
25:13 <Steven> not really
25:45 <Steven> doesnt that just block out your dodge bonus from gunslinger ability
26:30 <Avatar> what, how
26:46 <Steven> isnt celestial armor heavy armor?
26:51 <Avatar> no, light armor
27:01 <Avatar> !item celestial armor
27:02 <diebot> Avatar, CELESTIAL ARMOR [faint transmutation [good]] CL:5 armor 22400gp, 20lb
27:02 <diebot> This +3 chainmail is so fine and light that it can be worn under normal clothing without betraying its presence. It has a maximum Dexterity bonus of +8, an armor check penalty of -2, and an arcane spell failure chance of 15%. It is considered light armor and allows the wearer to use fly on command (as the spell) once per day.
27:06 <Brunius> Isn't the whole point of it that it's light?
27:25 <Avatar> well if it wasn't light that would be a dealbreaker, but that's not why it looks nice
27:30 <Steven> ah cool
27:45 <Steven> but no, i dont think its worth dropping 20k on
28:00 <Avatar> a ring of protection +2 is 8000gp and a potion of fly is 750gp
28:14 <Sn0uu> aha! so Ashe is better
28:23 <Avatar> yeah probably never worth it
28:28 <Sn0uu> It makes me sad that I can
28:40 <Sn0uu> 't remember ever playing a D&D char past lvl 2
29:03 <Steven> boots of haste?
29:11 <Steven> they are like 12k
29:21 <Steven> for 10 rounds a day you act as though you had haste?
29:24 <Avatar> of speed?
29:41 <Steven> yeah thats there name i think
30:06 <Avatar> I don't want anything that gives me more attacks
30:11 <Avatar> that is too much overpower for a gunslinger
30:25 <Steven> thats basically all a gunslinger is
30:35 <Steven> tons of attacks
30:36 <Avatar> what
30:48 <Avatar> that doesn't mean you optimise the shit out of it to give it more attacks when you can give it something else
30:52 <Steven> usually all of which hit due to vs touch
31:13 <Avatar> my AC is actually already 24
31:16 <Avatar> that is pretty good
31:29 <Steven> what race?
31:32 <Brunius> what level?
31:33 <Mekkis> it is
31:56 <Steven> you have that thing that lets you fire underwater?
32:20 <Avatar> human, level 8
32:35 <Avatar> I have dry load catridges
32:38 <Steven> goggles of night? give yourself darkvision 60ft
33:24 <Sn0uu> I'm not even sure it's actually happened
33:39 <Avatar> winged boots are 16000gp for flight 3x a day
33:40 <fued> u never played baldurs gate/nwn?
33:41 <fued> lol
33:56 <Sn0uu> I love BG
34:10 <Avatar> what is the difference between flying and "walking on air"
34:17 <Avatar> !item slippers of cloudwalking
34:19 <diebot> Avatar, SLIPPERS OF CLOUDWALKING [moderate transmutation] CL:11 feet 4400gp, 1lb
34:20 <diebot> The wearer of these slippers may walk on air (as the spell air walk) for up to 10 minutes per day, which may be used in 1-minute increments and requires no action to activate. However, she may only walk on air within or on top of natural or magical mist or fog, including fog-like gases such as those created by acid fog, cloudkill, incendiary cloud,
34:20 <diebot> or stinking cloud. Walking on top of such clouds carries no danger for the wearer, but walking through the cloud has its normal effect.
34:42 <Avatar> on top of fog
34:46 <Avatar> that's really dumb
34:54 <Steven> yup
34:56 <Mekkis> it's not really D&D though
34:58 <Mekkis> it's close
35:25 <Steven> if i get a vote, goggles of night OR wait till you get 27k and get a manual 
35:40 <Avatar> yeah you get a vote
35:49 <Avatar> do the manuals give you permanent ability boosts
36:19 <Mekkis> Hammer the gap
37:13 <fued> hoping to release the kickstarter for my game in a day or two
37:23 <Steven> they give an inherent bonus
37:46 <Avatar> I don't think I would save for a manual for a +1 bonus
37:48 <Avatar> despite having a 19 dex
37:56 <fued> was supposed to be tonight, be had an artist/designer flake out and quit
38:22 <Avatar> goggles of night... I feel like I should just carry a scroll of darkvision with me and hand it to my friendly neighbourhood caster
38:25 <Steven> i always view them as a money sink if you are swimming in it
38:35 <Ballig> hammer the gap doesn't seem that great to me
38:56 <Steven> after Ausk finishes The Ruby Pheonix Tourny he will have something like 53k
39:20 <Ballig> it seems like the poor man's weapon specialization
39:21 <Mekkis> I agree, Ballig 
39:36 <Steven> so unless something else catches my eye i will probably buy one of those for him
39:38 <Mekkis> at least you don't need to be a fighter
39:49 <Ballig> yeah it's easier to get
40:06 <Ballig> I think there are usually better options though
40:15 <Avatar> I would sooner upgrade my belt of dex
40:26 <Avatar> cheaper I think
40:36 <Mekkis> I would be surprised if there is any time when there isn't
40:36 <Brunius> RPT has about a bajillion items on the chronicle
40:39 <Avatar> yeah, 12000gp
40:44 <Mekkis> hmm
40:48 <Mekkis> full-attacking a wall
40:50 <Steven> oh yeah dex is good
41:05 <Avatar> I feel dirty upgrading my already high attack/damage
41:10 <Ballig> how often are you strapped for time when attacking a wall
41:11 <Steven> almost as good as an extra attack lol
41:21 <Avatar> yeah I had no plans to upgrade it further
41:29 <Mekkis> it's happened. Twice I think
41:56 <Mekkis> trapped in a room filling with water
42:06 <Avatar> sniper goggles would be cool for a gunslinger, if they did more than just help sneak attack
42:56 <Steven> i could see hammer the gap being decent if you had a monk that could hit frequently
44:12 <Avatar> 4000gp for low light vision isn't terrible
44:36 <Ballig> it's not necessarily restricted to melee either
45:05 <Ballig> should be able to combine it with rapid shot
46:22 <Mekkis> hmm
46:42 <Sn0uu> What HAPPEN?@?@?!?!?!!?
47:23 <Sn0uu> be had? :s
47:35 <Ballig> are you high
47:48 <Avatar> !item shoes of lightning leaping
47:48 <diebot> Avatar, SHOES OF LIGHTNING LEAPING [moderate transmutation] CL:6 feet 10500gp, 1lb
47:49 <diebot> These short black shoes fit tightly around the wearer's feet and bear designs of leaping arcs of lightning and wild winds. Once per day on command, a creature wearing these boots can transform into lightning and move up to 50 feet in a straight line, re-materializing at the far end of the lightning bolt. Creatures in the path of the lightning take
47:49 <diebot> 6d6 points of electricity damage and objects take damage as per the lightning bolt spell. If the lightning strikes an object or barrier and fails to burst through it, the creature wearing the boots appears next to the impacted object and is staggered for 1 round. Movement while in lightning form does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
47:56 <Sn0uu> oh, we*
47:56 <Avatar> tell me THAT'S not cool
47:57 <Mekkis> Somebody set us up the bomb !!
48:13 <Mekkis> that is cool
48:27 <Ballig> cool but potentially overpriced
48:36 <Avatar> you reckon?
48:37 <Mekkis> not really
48:47 <Avatar> how is it overpriced
48:56 <Mekkis> you need one form of "escape from grapple" 
49:10 <Mekkis> sure, it's a little more expensive than Cape of the Monteback
49:11 <Sn0uu> YES
49:14 <Avatar> I saw another one that lets you teleport 30ft away from a grapple
49:15 <Mekkis> but not that much
49:16 <Ballig> other than it just being a lightning bolt, the movement aspect will end up being hard to use
49:27 <Sn0uu> send out the zigz!
49:28 <Ballig> how often do you get 50 feet of movement in a straight line that won't make you hit a wall or some other object
49:30 <Ballig> and stagger you for a round
49:50 <Mekkis> up to 50'
49:55 <Steven> yeah i think hammer the gap could be really awesome with say a gunslinger
49:56 <Mekkis> you missed the "we get signal" bit
50:08 <Avatar> yeah the idea is that 50' is enough to get away though
50:11 <Avatar> solid point
50:14 <Ballig> yeah because if you hit a barrier before 50 feet you don't move 50 feet
50:18 <Ballig> you can't be like "I will only make my lightning bolt 10 feet"
50:29 <Mekkis> really?
50:32 <Avatar> it says up to 50 feet
50:41 <Ballig> yes, because if you hit a barrier you don't go the full 50
50:46 <Ballig> it doesn't say you can choose how long to make it
51:02 <Mekkis> no. it says if you hit a barrier but don't break through it
51:08 <Avatar> that's not how I read it
51:21 <Avatar> open to interpretation either way though
51:29 <Ballig> so you think you can move only 10 feet with it, if you choose?
51:33 <Mekkis> I do
51:43 <Avatar> yeah I'd say you could
51:43 <Ballig> I disagree with you
52:10 <Avatar> I'm going to forum that one
52:15 <Mekkis> thanks, Avatar 
52:24 <Mekkis> Mytiazair might want to buy one
52:39 <Mekkis> he doesn't have a "get out of grapple" method yet
52:42 <Avatar> wish I'd taken note of what the other item I was looking at was that does 30ft
52:47 <Avatar> and gnomes can do 400ft with it 
53:01 <Mekkis> (other than 'Cast dimension door' and hope to make the concentration)
53:11 <Mekkis> I'll search
53:49 <Mekkis> !item boots of escape
53:50 <diebot> Mekkis, BOOTS OF ESCAPE [moderate conjuration] CL:5 feet 8000gp, 1lb
53:51 <diebot> These sturdy leather-soled cloth boots have straps at the ankles and calves to ensure a snug fit. Once per day, when the wearer of the boots is grappled, pinned, or entangled, she may transfer herself to any spot within 30 feet as if using a dimension door spell. A gnome wearing these boots may instead transfer herself up to 400 feet away.
53:57 <Avatar> that's it
54:05 <Avatar> both feet slots
54:14 <Mekkis> I should add a search function
54:43 <Avatar> that description sounds much the same as the shoes
54:58 <Avatar> except there's no mention of consequences for teleporting less than 30ft
56:58 <Mekkis> !item escape ladder
57:04 <diebot> Mekkis, ESCAPE LADDER [moderate transmutation] CL:7 none 4000gp, 1lb
57:04 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/escape_ladder.html
57:12 <Ballig> the boots of escape are pretty clear - you choose a spot within 30 feet
58:29 <Avatar> any spot within 30 feet, yeah
01:21 <Mekkis> I'd probably go with the shoes of leaping rather than the boots of escape or the monteback cape
04:17 <Mekkis> I think a "get out of a grapple" item is required after about level 7.
04:34 <Mekkis> not actually sure what the level where its required is though
04:43 <Avatar> yeah that's buck's achilles heel and I don't like it
05:00 <Avatar> in fact I think it got him semi close to death once or twice
05:10 <Avatar> you'd think I'd learn
05:22 <Mekkis> Snickers almost died to it in the Market
05:29 <Mekkis> Itzamna was there
05:37 <Avatar> yeah I won't forget that
05:38 <Mekkis> Perfection bravely saved her
05:55 <Avatar> itzamna almost killed her
06:10 <Mekkis> hey
06:16 <Avatar> hey nothing !
06:29 <Mekkis> Itzamna TOLD you to do plan A when encountering that sort of enemy
06:35 <Mekkis> aka "run the fuck away"
06:48 <Avatar> you can't go ahead with plan A before the party agrees
06:57 <Mekkis> sure you can
07:07 <Avatar> then you're responsible
07:09 <Avatar> it's on you
07:11 <Mekkis> yes
07:26 <Avatar> why are you considering the shoes over the cape
07:34 <Avatar> the cape looks better
07:40 <Mekkis> because I'm wearing a cloak already
07:45 <Mekkis> I think
07:48 <Avatar> resistance
07:49 <Avatar> ?
07:52 <Mekkis> I think
07:57 <Mekkis> !find Mytiazair
07:59 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=148
07:59 <dicebot> Mekkis, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=284
08:18 <Mekkis> !findchar Mytiazair
08:20 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Mytiazair, number: 148( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=148 )
08:27 <Avatar> upload that beotch
08:52 <Mekkis> ok...
08:59 <Mekkis> hmmm
10:18 <Mekkis> Ballig, could you perhaps make !find discount any characters for inactive campaigns, or perhaps give diebot readonly access to some of tables?
11:45 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p663?Shoes-of-Lightning-Leaping-Must-move-50ft-or#3
14:08 <Mekkis> uploaded, Avatar 
14:50 <Avatar> sif not get improved iron will
15:56 <Mekkis> isn't it obvious that I only got iron will to meet the prereqs?
16:40 <Avatar> prereqs for what
16:50 <Mekkis> Master Spy, I think
17:06 <Avatar> if you're getting iron will you may as well get improved
17:15 <Mekkis> !feat improved iron will
17:15 <Avatar> the only reason you don't get improved is because it requires you to pick up iron will
17:16 <diebot> Mekkis, IMPROVED IRON WILL []Prereq:  Iron Will.  Your clarity of thought allows you to resist mental attacks.
17:17 <diebot> Benefit:  Once per day, you may reroll a Will save. You must decide to use this ability before the results are revealed. You must take the second roll, even if it is worse. Source: Core
17:28 <Avatar> that's a shirt reroll right there
17:36 <Mekkis> I'll just use my shirt reroll then
18:06 <Avatar> it's like having 2 shirt rerolls
18:14 <Avatar> cmon do I need to explain rerolls to you
18:17 <Avatar> you are like the king of rerolls
18:33 <Mekkis> like having the Diviner preroll, the gnomish reroll, the reroll boon and the shirt reroll?
20:34 <Avatar> yes
20:48 <Mekkis> I've never had a character with all four of them
21:05 <Mekkis> closest is Grolschmir, with three
24:28 <Avatar> there's a lot of pretty good cloaks
24:45 <Mekkis> yeah
25:06 <Avatar> one that gives low light vision, darkness on command and then lowlight vision and darkvision during that darkness, 10000gp
25:07 <Mekkis> I hate cloaks of resistance
25:18 <Mekkis> what's it called?
25:21 <Avatar> that's mass blindness once per day
25:26 <Avatar> cloak of the duskwalker
25:35 <Mekkis> !item cloak of the duskwalker
25:36 <diebot> Mekkis, CLOAK OF THE DUSKWALKER [faint illusion] CL:3 shoulders 10000gp, 1lb
25:37 <diebot> This dark, velvety cloak billows with a dramatic flourish in its wearer's wake. The cloak grants its wearer low-light vision. Once per day, on command, the wearer can surround herself with darkness, as the darkness spell. While this darkness is active, the cloak also grants the wearer darkvision 60 feet as well as low-light vision.
25:41 <Mekkis> better because of no save, right?
25:59 <Steven> my character ausk has a cloak of resistance +2
26:04 <Mekkis> unfortunately Darkness has a bunch of mechanical issues
26:17 <Mekkis> Steven, so does Mytiazair. I still don't like them
27:11 <Steven> always a decent cloak to have when your other cloaks aren't giving a desired effect
27:28 <Avatar> it's too much of a default go-to
27:34 <Avatar> just to increase the numbers
27:43 <Avatar> you need something that has an effect
27:46 <Mekkis> I feel it gets in the way of getting a "cool" item
27:55 <Avatar> of all the choices that are there, cmon
28:28 <Mekkis> I was really happy when they moved all the enhancement to ability items into the headband and the belt slots
28:50 <Mekkis> that's one big improvement of Pathfinder over 3.5
28:59 <Avatar> what were they in 3.5
29:46 <N2H4> all kinds of stuff.
29:52 <Mekkis> Headband of intellect, cloak of charisma, peripet of wisdom, gloves of dex, gloves of +2 str, belt of +4 and +6 str, peripet of con iirc
30:25 <N2H4> I remember the cloak of charisma, and I thought dex was boots, but I could be wrong.
30:34 <Mekkis> dex was gloves
30:37 <N2H4> and yeah, belt was traditionally str.
30:44 <Steven> gloves
30:46 <Mekkis> only for +4 and +6
30:51 <Mekkis> gloves for +2
31:09 <Steven> str was gauntlets
31:16 <Mekkis> for +2
31:21 <Steven> yup
31:28 <Mekkis> but a belt for +4 and +6
31:32 <Mekkis> so no upgrading :)
32:12 <Steven> when they put them all into two different slots, it made it so people couldn't just stat boost like mad
32:34 <Mekkis> it also opened the other slots up for Cool Stuff
32:42 <Steven> yup
32:51 <Mekkis> the other solution is what happened with the Magic Item Compendium on p234
33:51 <Mekkis> "Here's a table of generic boring stuff you can shove onto your items"
34:01 <Avatar> that's right
34:13 <Steven> i think imma go to the store
34:19 <Steven> buy some biscuits and gravy making
34:25 <Mekkis> but some people like Avatar and Ballig didn't like it
35:55 <N2H4> We used to use the table for ordering custom made magic items in 3.5 sometimes.
36:17 <N2H4> Turns out power scaling goes nuts when your players pretty much design their own items.
36:32 <Steven> go figure
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36:38 <Mekkis> well, it's better than the one in the DMG
36:46 <N2H4> especially since bonuses to skill checks are pretty damn cheap.
37:11 <Steven> i know i am going to make a custom item in walters homebrew
37:24 <N2H4> If you got a character design that can make a few skill checks do all kinds of things, you're halfway into broken-ville.
37:37 <Mekkis> skills aren't on the table
37:58 <N2H4> Skill bonuses?
38:32 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/MICp234.pdf
38:45 <Steven> that will let me cast fickle winds on myself
38:59 <N2H4> There was a table like this in 3.5 somewhere.
39:01 <N2H4> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#Table-Estimating-Magic-Item-Gold-Piece-Values
39:07 <Mekkis> yes
39:09 <Mekkis> in the DMG
39:14 <Mekkis> not the word ESTIMATING
39:25 <Mekkis> note*
39:41 <BoomerET> Hello everyone
39:52 <N2H4> Yep. And if you let players use it to order up stuff, shit gets crazy.
39:56 <Ballig> sup boomz
40:06 <Mekkis> sure
41:06 <BoomerET> Living the good life here in Paradise.
41:10 <BoomerET> You?
41:17 <Ballig> where's Paradise
41:57 <Avatar> there are bracers which let you use glibness once per day
42:01 <Mekkis> reminds me of http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#mantleofEpicSpellResistance
42:04 <Avatar> 7900gp
42:23 <BoomerET> Northern California
42:40 <Avatar> I think snickers has just under 20000gp too
42:57 <Ballig> why is that Paradise
43:23 <BoomerET> Because it's where I live silly.
43:40 <BoomerET> Everyplace I am is Paradise.
43:51 <BoomerET> When I was in Brisbane, that was Paradise :)
44:24 <Mekkis> snickers has the Cape, right?
44:25 <Ballig> no it wasn't because Mekkis was also there
44:25 <Ballig> ha ha ha
44:42 <Avatar> no she has a catching cape which she's never ended up using
44:57 <Brunius> Didn't you live there once
45:01 <Avatar> pretty good buy, once-off 20% miss chance for an encounter, 250gp or something
45:15 <Ballig> once
45:16 <Mekkis> I thought she learnt from that time in the market
45:49 <Avatar> she learnt about how you are an unreliable party member
46:56 <BoomerET> I only spent about a month there, but it was probably one of the best times of my life.
47:33 <BoomerET> An IRC guy I've known since '96 (from .au) committed suicide recently, no idea why.
47:46 <Ballig> was he in Brisbane
47:51 <Ballig> was it Mekkis
47:53 <Ballig> is Mekkis a ghost
47:55 <BoomerET> We were co-founders of an N64 release group. Never met in person.
49:15 <BoomerET> seems like I haven't played PFS in months
49:16 <Ballig> what does an N64 release group do
49:24 <***> Buffer Playback...
49:24 <***> Playback Complete.
49:24 <Avatar> once per day
50:02 <Brunius> Release N64s
50:09 <BoomerET> um, it's a kind word for pirates
50:16 <Avatar> why aren't I using bluff more often?
50:21 <Mekkis> ok
50:23 <Ballig> are you a pirate
50:24 <Mekkis> wtf Avatar 
50:25 <Avatar> even without glibness I can get people to believe almost anything
50:34 <Brunius> Can I have a cannon
50:39 <BoomerET> not anymore
50:39 <N2H4> Do you have a parrot? A peg leg? A hook?
50:40 <Ballig> do you have a parrot
50:40 <Mekkis> !spell glibness
50:41 <diebot> Mekkis, GLIBNESS transmutation ([]) bard 3 1 standard action Range: personal Duration: 10 min./level Save:  SR:
50:42 <diebot> Your speech becomes fluent and more believable, causing those who hear you to believe every word you say. You gain a +20 bonus on Bluff checks made to convince another of the truth of your words. This bonus doesn't apply to other uses of the Bluff skill, such as feinting in combat, creating a diversion to hide, or communicating a hidden message via
50:42 <diebot> innuendo.  If a magical effect is used against you that would detect your lies or force you to speak the truth, the user of the effect must succeed on a caster level check (1d20 + caster level) against a DC of 15 + your caster level to succeed. Failure means the effect does not detect your lies or force you to speak only the truth.
50:49 <Mekkis> only +20
50:53 <BoomerET> Argh
50:54 <Mekkis> wasn't it +30 in 3.5
50:59 <Avatar> yeah
51:07 <Avatar> I guess they thought +30 was too powerful
51:15 <Mekkis> you forced my PC to restart!
51:24 <Avatar> really? how
51:28 <Mekkis> no idea
51:37 <Avatar> I don't think that was me
52:02 <Mekkis> that caused it!
52:08 <Mekkis> you h4x0r!
52:19 <Avatar> she learnt about how you are an unreliable party member
52:55 <Mekkis> it's called "leading by example"
53:13 <Mekkis> "Holy shit, run away!" followed by running away
53:33 <Avatar> it's called "leaving your glass cannons to die"
53:41 <Ballig> don't you mean Arr
53:42 <BoomerET> But I do go on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride every time we go to Disneyland (a few times a year)
53:46 <Mekkis> you could have run away too
53:52 <Avatar> I wasn't ready
54:30 <Mekkis> how so? you had actions that would have been better used by running away
54:48 <Avatar> if you'd waited a round I might have been able to get 2 prestige
54:57 <Avatar> instead of almost dying
56:03 <Avatar> 36 bluff really is overkill isn't it, I'm not misreading anything
56:11 <Steven> do you know the song?
56:14 <Avatar> an impossible lie is only -20 to the modifier
56:18 <Mekkis> it was your choice between 1 prestige and -16 prestige
56:50 <Avatar> yeah, after you screwed me
57:13 <Mekkis> don't do a hitomi
59:05 <Avatar> what is a hitomi
59:44 <Mekkis> putting your faction before the Society
00:16 <Avatar> the society would've been fine either way
00:39 <Mekkis> true
00:48 <Mekkis> they don't particularly care if you die
01:25 <Avatar> yeah +36 to bluff is too much
01:37 <BoomerET> We have the CD in my wife's van.
03:24 <Mekkis> time to paint a mini
05:06 <Steven> last time i went to disney land
05:18 <Steven> we rode on pirates of the cari
05:36 <Steven> and my brother and i sung the song at the top of our lungs the whole way through
05:42 <Steven> super bored....
05:47 <Steven> and my car has a flat tire
07:20 <fued> bloody pirates!
07:26 <Steven> indeed!
07:31 <Avatar> !item broom of flying
07:31 <diebot> Avatar, BROOM OF FLYING [moderate transmutation] CL:9 none 17000gp, 3lb
07:32 <diebot> This broom is able to fly through the air as if affected by an overland flight spell (+4 on Fly skill checks) for up to 9 hours per day (split up as its owner desires). The broom can carry 200 pounds and fly at a speed of 40 feet, or up to 400 pounds at a speed at 30 feet. In addition, the broom can travel alone to any destination named by the
07:32 <diebot> owner as long as she has a good idea of the location and layout of that destination. It flies to its owner from as far away as 900 feet when she speaks the command word. The broom of flying has a speed of 40 feet when it has no rider.
07:38 <Avatar> !item winged boots
07:39 <diebot> Avatar, WINGED BOOTS [moderate transmutation] CL:8 feet 16000gp, 1lb
07:39 <diebot> These boots appear to be ordinary footgear. On command, they sprout wings at the heel and let the wearer fly, without having to maintain concentration, as if affected by a fly spell (including a +4 bonus on Fly skill checks). The wearer can fly three times per day for up to 5 minutes per flight.
08:30 <BoomerET> Hahahahaha
08:39 <Avatar> broom is better just because it's slotless? 
09:01 <fued> meh my games are f2p anyway, pirates dont usually bother with those
09:10 <Avatar> it even flies slower, 40ft instead of 60ft
09:13 <Steven> i like the carpets of flying
09:23 <Steven> why would we want something not worth money?
09:31 <Avatar> why get a carpet when you can get either of these
10:04 <Mekkis> Avatar, two things: class
10:11 <Mekkis> and the fact that it's permanent
10:15 <fued> for the benefits it provides
11:43 <Steven> but with money we can just steal whatever benefits we want and keep our money too
12:08 <Steven> cause pirates are thieves
13:08 <Steven> yeah carpet can be loaded with more than one person so long as they dont exceed 400lbs
14:16 <Mekkis> I still prefer flying mouuunts
14:23 <Mekkis> mounts even
14:41 <Mekkis> does a carpet cost actions?
15:26 <Avatar> doesn't seem to
15:35 <Steven> a command word to activate
15:47 <Steven> and then i would assume a free action to direct
16:05 <Avatar> why would you ever deactivate it
16:07 <Steven> since walter and kyle were talking about how cool it was to move and full round
16:26 <Steven> high winds
16:43 <Avatar> I've always been really miffed that I needed a standard action to use the flight hex and then only had a move action remaining
17:22 <fued> they are also free advertisment
17:34 <Steven> imma go play some video gaqmes
17:36 <Mekkis> !item carpet of flying
17:44 <fued> not the most effective source, but still there
17:53 <Mekkis> !item carpet, flying
18:01 <Mekkis> !item flying%carpet
18:57 <Mekkis> !item %carpet%
18:59 <diebot> Mekkis, CARPET OF FLYING 5-FT.-BY-5-FT. [moderate transmutation] CL:10 none 20000gp, 8lb
18:59 <diebot> This rug is able to fly through the air as if affected by an overland flight spell of unlimited duration. The size, carrying capacity, and speed of the different carpets of flying are shown on the table below. Beautifully and intricately made, each carpet has its own command word to activate it-if the device is within voice range, the command word
18:59 <diebot> activates it, whether the speaker is on the rug or not. The carpet is then controlled by spoken directions.  SIZE CAPACITY SPEED WeightPrice 5-ft.-by-5-ft. 200 lbs. 40 ft. 8 lbs. 20,000 gp  5-ft.-by-10-ft. 400 lbs. 40 ft. 10 lbs. 35,000 gp  10-ft.-by-10-ft. 800 lbs. 40 ft. 15 lbs. 60,000 gp  A carpet of flying can carry up to double its capacity,
18:59 <diebot> but doing so reduces its speed to 30 feet. A carpet of flying can hover without making a Fly skill check and gives a +5 bonus to other Fly checks.
19:35 <Mekkis> ugh
20:01 <Mekkis> "The carpet is then controlled by spoken directions"
20:13 <Mekkis> does that mean it uses move actions?
20:18 <Mekkis> or free?
20:38 <Avatar> I imagine it's like a horse
20:39 <Steven> too bad the carpet cant be effected by ant haul
21:28 <Avatar> so 40ft speed with the carpet and then you can full round
21:38 <Steven> yup
21:55 <Mekkis> I'd like to imagine that, but it's not clear
22:07 <Avatar> how else would you read it
22:48 <Steven> well the VC and VL of Washington were talking about how thats how they interpreted it
23:07 <Mekkis> that it effectively gives you a fly speed
23:09 <Steven> standard to activate carpet, free action to direct it
23:30 <Steven> yeah, save that you can be knocked off of it
23:49 <Mekkis> the fact that it "gives a +5 bonus to other Fly checks" could be interpreted as that
37:45 <N2H4> I disagree with the movement via mount/broom/carpet and then full round attack.
38:13 <N2H4> The problem is that even if you aren't moving under your own power, if you spend half the round too far to attack, you can't do a full round attack.
42:17 <Avatar> we're assuming you can get into range of attack obviously
42:43 <Avatar> oh I see what you mean
42:50 <Avatar> you're usually allowed to do that on a horse though
43:54 <Steven> yeah, and you should totes be able to do some crazy shit for 20k bill
44:18 <N2H4> Wrong, Avatar.
44:49 <Avatar> got a rule?
45:17 <N2H4> Combat while Mounted
45:18 <N2H4> With a DC 5 Ride check, you can guide your mount with your knees so as to use both hands to attack or defend yourself. This is a free action.
45:18 <N2H4> When you attack a creature smaller than your mount that is on foot, you get the +1 bonus on melee attacks for being on higher ground. If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only make a single melee attack. Essentially, you have to wait until the mount gets to your enemy before attacking, so you can't make a full attack. Even at your mount's full speed, you don't take any penalty on melee attacks while mounted.
47:40 <N2H4> Since the explaination is that you have to wait for the mount to get there first, even though its not explicitly stated I would say taking your horse in a tight circle around the enemy, never going more than attack distance away, would be a valid situation for a full attack.
48:21 <Avatar> that does seem explicitly stated
48:30 <Avatar> you can only make a single melee attack
49:13 <N2H4> It doesn't make any exception for the possibily of circling the enemy.
49:53 <N2H4> But you can argue that it explicitly states your mount can't move more than 5' and still allow you to full attack. Fair enough, even if I don't like it.
50:24 <N2H4> I think allowing circling is reasonable and not against RAI, but thats me.
52:56 <Avatar> yeah makes sense, but it's very much a house rlue
52:58 <Avatar> rule*
58:09 <N2H4> Theres probably a couple cases where pirating has lead to more success than other forms of advertising.
59:49 <Steven> jesus.... being single sucks... my room mates are sleeping and im bored as hell
00:50 <Mekkis> there's a feat that allows you to make a full attack after your mount moves
01:00 <Mekkis> a ranger with the mounted path can get it at level 10
01:05 <Mekkis> when did they first call it piracy?
01:05 <Steven> pounce?
01:43 <N2H4> What is 2003, Alexs?
02:10 <N2H4> Internet Trivia for 400.
02:13 <N2H4> Is it actually effective before 4 attacks a round?
02:35 <Steven> i dont think it is as good as spirited charge+lance
02:56 <N2H4> Itn't 4 attacks from BAB the  cutoff?
03:18 <Avatar> gloves of shaping are pretty sexy, permanent stone shaping
03:20 <N2H4> at 3 and less, you can get equal damage from a spirited charge+lance, correct?
03:42 <Mekkis> yeah. IF they all hit
03:47 <N2H4> at attacks a round, you're ahead on a full attack
04:15 <N2H4> Which is in favor of the mounted charge rather than whatever you're talking about.
04:39 <Mekkis> !feat Mounted Skirmisher
04:40 <diebot> Mekkis, MOUNTED SKIRMISHER [Combat]Prereq:  Ride rank 14, Mounted Combat, Trick Riding.  You are adept at attacking from upon a swift moving steed.
04:40 <diebot> Benefit:  If your mount moves its speed or less, you can still take a full-attack action.
04:40 <diebot> Normal:  If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only take an attack action. Source: APG
06:32 <Mekkis> Mounted Combat rangers can get it at 10th
07:44 <Steven> yeah without meeting prereqs
08:06 <Mekkis> which is good, because Trick Riding's pretty lame
08:59 <Mekkis> (although Grolschmir might take it at 11th
09:00 <Mekkis> )
11:04 <Steven> i keep wanting to make a natural weapons ranger
11:32 <Steven> of the shapeshifter archtype
11:34 <Avatar> there are a lot of items that benefit monks and natural weapons
12:31 <Mekkis> all of them benefit natural weapons much more than monks :)
12:55 <N2H4> Its because monks are OP.
13:39 <Mekkis> N2H4, if I didn't know better, I'd think you were trolling
13:48 <N2H4> I am.
14:04 <Steven> monks are so OP!
14:14 <Mekkis> the only monk that's OP is NAT
14:20 <Mekkis> NAT's broken
14:34 <N2H4> See? Trolling.
14:43 <Mekkis> (you seen NAT?)
14:45 <Steven> its like Synthesists, gunslingers, monks, than everything else power level wise
15:30 <Mekkis> I still don't believe synthesists are that broken
16:02 <Steven> they arent so long as you wake them up for a battle.
17:36 <Avatar> there's an item which lets you use atonement once per week
17:47 <Avatar> could be useful if you travel with a paladin and need them to do some nasty shit occasionally
18:08 <Mekkis> anyone looked at the mythic adventures playtest?
18:47 <Mekkis> have they changed Atonement?
18:52 <Mekkis> !spell atonement
18:54 <diebot> Mekkis, ATONEMENT abjuration ([]) cleric 5, druid 5, inquisitor 5 1 hour Range: touch Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yes
18:54 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/atonement.html
19:53 <Mekkis> wow
19:54 <Mekkis> they did
20:32 <Mekkis> you can now deliberately break your code and get atonement
20:53 <Steven> yups
22:31 <Avatar> it does say they must be truly repentant
22:44 <Avatar> judging that in game terms is pretty difficult
23:07 <Mekkis> I just don't break my code :P
23:26 <Steven> yeah, my friend andrew had to get an atonement before
23:44 <Avatar> my paladin is sczarni
23:57 <Steven> he went and attempted to kill his herald and his wife Jenny when he found them sleeping together
23:59 <Steven> they escaped
24:08 <Steven> with the intervention of folnor
26:10 <Steven> and now he begins every session with Thorfin w/ the announcement he will happily lose his paladin powers if means he can kill his exherald or a teammate that gets in the way of him killing his exherald
26:25 <Steven> and so we always manage to work into the story somewhere that he has spotted them
27:43 Steven has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
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28:21 <Steven> had to restart
28:57 <Mekkis> I like Commune 1/scenario
29:11 <Steven> last time thorfin and folnor partied together, folnor(while invisible) pulled out a drawing of Jenny and Mr. Giggles(herald) 
29:22 <Steven> together on a beach
30:54 <Steven> and andrew spent the rest of the scenario on constant vigil for them
31:04 <Steven> and willingly took a -5 to his initiative
31:09 <Steven> it was halarious
35:35 <Mekkis> !item Scholar''s ring
35:36 <diebot> Mekkis, SCHOLAR'S RING [moderate conjuration] CL:5 ring 8700gp, 0lb
35:36 <diebot> A scholar's ring grants complete understanding of any written text or spoken language, even one that the wearer has never encountered before (as the comprehend languages spell), as well as a +5 competence bonus on Knowledge (history) checks.   In addition, once every 5 days the wearer can invoke a legend lore spell related to a subject that she has
35:36 <diebot> been studying in the previous week, if she has attempted a Knowledge (history) check aided by the ring.
35:53 <Mekkis> wow
36:08 <Mekkis> Deceased should get that
46:46 <Mekkis> put me down for running Sanos Abduction, starting at 9am, next Saturday
46:49 <Mekkis> 3-7
46:56 <Mekkis> please, Avatar or Ballig 
47:50 <Brunius> !recentsheets
47:52 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:07 413 James
47:52 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:07 394 Rabble
47:52 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:06 333 Bairaq
47:52 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 17 00:06 285 Deceased
47:52 <diebot> Brunius, Nov 11 00:06 269 Bobbob
47:57 <Brunius> Avatar is probably still at Blackburn
48:08 <Mekkis> !history 333
48:10 <diebot> Mekkis, r41 | vpsirc | 2012-11-17 00:07:52 -0500 (Sat, 17 Nov 2012) | 1 line
48:10 <diebot> Mekkis, r36 | vpsirc | 2012-10-20 00:09:08 -0400 (Sat, 20 Oct 2012) | 1 line
48:10 <diebot> Mekkis, r4 | vpsirc | 2012-07-21 02:54:28 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
48:10 <diebot> Mekkis, r3 | initial load | 2012-07-21 00:05:09 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
48:17 <Mekkis> !diff 333 r36
48:18 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/333r36.txt
56:01 <Mekkis> Brunius, consider
56:12 <Mekkis> !spell Litany of Sloth
56:13 <diebot> Mekkis, LITANY OF SLOTH enchantment (compulsion[language-dependent, mind-affecting]) antipaladin 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Duration: 1 round Save: no SR:yes
56:13 <diebot> With a litany against the wages of sloth, you slow the target's defenses. The target cannot make attacks of opportunity or cast spells defensively.  While subject to this spell, the target cannot be the target of another spell that has the word "litany" in the title.
56:16 <Mekkis> for Bairaq
57:30 <Brunius> It's a swift action, so I can do it anytime?
58:39 <N2H4> any time you don't do other swift actions.
59:59 <Mekkis> you can do one a turn
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