// #d&d — 2012-11-06
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00:00:21 <fued> yeah everyone laughs at me for that price lol
00:00:36 <fued> gotta hurry up and finish my kickstarter so i can offer $5k
00:03:31 <Mekkis> hmmm
00:03:42 <Mekkis> why kickstarter? Why not just sell equity?
00:04:23 <fued> the amount i want is too low
00:04:33 <fued> very hard to find an investory
00:05:06 <Mekkis> low risk low gain?
00:05:57 <fued> yeah pretty much
00:06:06 <fued> potentially high gain, but odds arent great
00:07:06 <Mekkis> you've picked the right demographic, I'll give you that
00:07:32 <Mekkis> RPG players seem to be very good at throwing money at kickstarter
00:07:45 <fued> Yeah i noticed that lol
00:08:05 <fued> Plus i love rpgs and tactical battles, beats making farmville clones
00:08:06 <Mekkis> evidently most of them haven't experienced an IT project
00:09:09 <Mort-> I don't like cloud kill
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07:15:25 <Avatar> :o)
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08:02:32 <Steven> what up what up
08:03:04 <Steven> i have a question about the website... who runs that bad boy?
08:05:23 <Brunius> Ballig
08:05:42 <Brunius> I believe Avatar (and Mekkis?) have access to it though
08:19:10 <Steven> yeah i think its ballig, but hes very rarely around... he is a busy guy
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10:47:35 <Avatar> I'm the only one who has admin access besides ballig
10:54:26 <MekkisScreen> Snypt?
10:54:34 <Avatar> oh yeah and snypt
10:54:50 <MekkisScreen> We should start an Empire game
10:55:04 <Avatar> what is empire
10:55:15 <Brunius> yeah what is empire
10:55:26 <MekkisScreen> it's a 40 year old computer game
10:56:03 <MekkisScreen> http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/e/empire.html
10:56:09 <MekkisScreen> http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/e/empire.html
10:56:17 <MekkisScreen> http://wolfpackempire.com/default.htm
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10:58:16 <Brunius> Sounds good
11:01:23 <Avatar> I played a game like that years ago
11:01:26 <Avatar> earth 2024 I think it was called
11:02:12 <MekkisScreen> not that many years ago
11:03:00 <Brunius> Man, I remember trying to get that game working on my fancy new graphics card that could handle 3D graphics
11:03:51 <Avatar> it was around 2003
11:03:59 <Brunius> Mekkis: So it's a super complicated RTS that spans several months?
11:10:24 <MekkisScreen> yeah
11:27:32 <MekkisScreen> I've got a spare server lying around
11:31:37 <MekkisScreen> http://article.olduse.net/1865%40sri-unix.UUCP
11:31:41 <Brunius> Y'know, just spare.
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11:53:14 <MekkisScreen> yeah
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12:14:11 <fued> hey
12:17:37 <N2H4> hey
12:20:44 <fued> got a deadline on my kickstarter campaign for my pathfinder pc game today
12:21:03 <fued> needs to be ready by the end of the month or neis will get angry lol
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13:19:02 <Steven> sup sup
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14:10:50 <Steven> so what up peeps?
14:11:43 <fued> just got set a deadline for my kickstarter
14:11:57 <Steven> cool
14:11:57 <fued> and someone wants a website built
14:12:01 <fued> so working on them atm
14:12:18 <Steven> i am burshing up on my html so i can build one myself
14:12:39 <Brunius> what's the value of x in sin(25) = 15/x
14:12:42 <fued> ye aint hard, anyone who can use wordpad should be able to make one lol
14:13:08 <Steven> yeah, im just gonna cannibalize part of balligs site, but i need to ask permission
14:13:17 <Steven> cause i dont just steal
14:13:22 <fued> 35.493023?
14:13:45 <Brunius> Dammit, that means I've done something wrong
14:13:59 <Brunius> Hmm, actually, is that taking 25 as radians
14:14:03 <fued> nope
14:14:29 <fued> if it was it would be in the minuses lol
14:14:35 <fued> -100ish?
14:15:00 <fued> dunno im just guessing from what i learned years ago
14:15:15 <fued> i dont actually calculate maths, just gotta know which commands to use haha
14:18:20 <fued> what are you using to make your site? just html and notepad? or an actual webbuilding language
14:19:16 <Steven> just html...
14:19:22 <Steven> i dont have a web building program
14:19:36 <Steven> used to do this all the time in highschool
14:19:48 <fued> ahok
14:19:52 <fued> i used mono for mine lol
14:19:59 <Steven> i remember it being a lot easier
14:20:18 <Brunius> Grab notepad++
14:20:41 <Brunius> Highlights syntax and stuff
14:20:51 <fued> hardest part of webdesign is lining crap up
14:21:09 <Steven> yeah, but i tend to go for real utilitarian designed programs
14:21:40 <fued> i can send u the code for my site if u want, its mainly html with some css
14:22:08 <Steven> ide love to get the coding for balligs site's database and emailing list... its very well done.
14:22:10 <fued> you would have to use mono tho, but i find it far easier than notepad lol
14:22:28 <fued> whats balligs site?
14:22:48 <Steven> at least for the purpose im using it for, which is a way to set up a game signup at our local shop
14:22:53 <Steven> yesterday 4 tables...
14:23:15 <Steven> took ~25 minutes to figure out who went where
14:23:32 <fued> lol damn
14:23:55 <fued> brb
14:26:06 <Steven> yeah and it would be a lot easier if we could just walk in and be like, okay Table 1 will be in the back room
14:45:47 <Brunius> Oh, now I find the formula sheet on the back
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15:20:36 <fued> damn its hot today, 30 degrees in my house
15:21:08 <Brunius> It's raining where I am
15:21:26 <Brunius> And there's a thunderstorm hitting somewhere around belgrave, I believe
15:22:33 <fued> dont think it will make it here lol
15:34:51 <MekkisScreen> did you lose any money today, Brunius?
15:35:33 <Steven> +
15:49:18 <Avatar> fued: what kickstarter
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16:00:50 <fued> wierd, lost connection
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16:10:25 <Brunius> MekkisScreen, nope
16:10:51 <Brunius> I've never paid much attention to sports other than being annoyed at them
16:40:48 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: I thought about this after I went to bed last night, but you should check out Gungahlin re: moving to Canberra
16:40:52 <Ballig> it seems to be the most popular suburb right now
16:41:29 <fued> hope i move to canberra next yeah, i hear its colder than sydney
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16:50:39 <Avatar> melbourne is where you want to be
16:50:46 <Avatar> you get sweet holidays like melbourne cup day
17:16:41 <N2H4> Whats Melbourne Cup Day?
17:18:26 <Brunius> Public holiday because of horse races
17:18:47 <MekkisScreen> Public holiday in Melbourne for a big horse race
17:18:51 * MekkisScreen lost $5
17:20:26 <MekkisScreen> thanks Ballig
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17:23:24 <MekkisScreen> Total 8.8 MB/s | 135 MB 00:15
17:43:34 <MekkisScreen> empire server is built
17:43:35 <MekkisScreen> might be up
17:44:41 <Brunius> Guess I should sign up/join
17:45:36 <fued> whats happenen?
17:45:55 <Brunius> Which client would you recommend, Mekkis?
17:51:27 <Brunius> ...that isn't telnet
18:13:32 <Mekkis> Brunius, no idea
18:13:42 <Mekkis> us.ti4200.info
18:14:44 <Brunius> port?
18:28:28 <Mekkis> hmmm
18:29:34 <Mekkis> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6665 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 15857/emp_server
18:29:36 <Mekkis> 6665
18:30:24 <Avatar> putty
18:30:38 <Brunius> That's telnet Avatar
18:30:53 <Mekkis> not sure if telnet even works
18:31:55 <Brunius> 2 Empire server ready
18:32:42 <Mekkis> ah
18:32:47 <Mekkis> I need to add a country for you
18:38:32 <Avatar> putty supports telnet
18:38:42 <Avatar> oh, you want not-telnet
18:38:52 <Avatar> it supports whatever else you're using as well
18:40:31 <Mekkis> you need a Real Empire Client
18:40:36 <Mekkis> Telnet won't cut it
18:40:48 <Mekkis> (ssh will, as in, you can ssh into a server running a Real Empire Client)
18:44:08 <Avatar> Mekkis: did you decide what you're running saturday
18:44:44 <Mekkis> yeah
18:44:55 <Mekkis> Wrath's Shadow, unless you want me to run Diamond Gate
18:45:18 <Avatar> I'll put down wrath's shadow, because I can't guarantee anything
18:52:16 <Mekkis> on second thoughts, put down Sanos Abduction
18:52:18 <Mekkis> 4-02
18:53:11 * Mort- bites mekkis and minds her own business
18:53:18 <Mekkis> hey
18:53:34 <Mekkis> if you wanted me to work around your timetable, Mort-, you'd announce it
18:54:11 <Mort-> Any time but this sat?
19:01:56 <Avatar> man are you serious
19:02:13 <Mort-> Forget it
19:02:14 <Avatar> why would you tell me you'd decided and then after I've put up the notice and sent out the emails, change the scenario
19:02:22 <Mort-> I declined.
19:03:06 <Avatar> are you sure
19:03:14 <Mort-> I can't make it
19:03:16 <Avatar> Mekkis
19:03:18 <Mort-> For good reason
19:03:21 <Mort-> Np
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19:05:38 <Graky> hey guys
19:05:46 <Graky> havent been around for awhile sorry :<
19:05:50 <Avatar> grak
19:05:52 <Graky> got exams prob wont be able to play till dec
19:06:34 <Mort-> All the best graky
19:06:37 <Mort-> For your exams
19:06:47 * Mort- casts bless on graky
19:07:21 <Brunius> I should probably study for my exams...
19:07:31 <Brunius> Nah, they're not important
19:08:01 <Graky> haha cheers Mort
19:08:05 <Graky> sorry i havent been around :(
19:09:33 <Avatar> GM a game brunius
19:09:45 <Brunius> How about...no
19:09:54 <Avatar> why not
19:10:18 <Mort-> Its ok
19:10:20 <Mort-> Im fine.
19:10:23 <Brunius> You should GM #50
19:10:26 <Brunius> Fortune's Blight
19:10:31 <fued> yes
19:10:44 <Avatar> not just for you mort
19:10:58 <Mort-> I played it already
19:11:05 <Mort-> Anyway and yes i have the scenario
19:11:22 <Avatar> maybe you should GM it mort
19:11:42 <Mort-> Ill let bru gm
19:11:51 <fued> does pfs have to be a module? or can ppl run thier own
19:11:52 <Mort-> Its one of the scenarios he has
19:11:55 <Mort-> I can't play it though
19:12:03 <Brunius> I haven't played #50
19:12:05 <Brunius> But I own it
19:13:35 <Avatar> what does that mean fued
19:13:47 <fued> e.g. can someone write thier own module
19:13:58 <Brunius> Not really
19:14:28 <Avatar> no
19:14:40 <Avatar> you can write one and submit it to paizo to be made official if you're good enough at it
19:15:24 <Ballig> it has to be a sanctioned module/scenario for it to be PFS legal
19:15:46 <fued> fair enough
19:16:03 <Ballig> write it and get it published!
19:16:09 <Ballig> name an NPC after Mekkis!
19:16:33 <fued> writing it is easy, drawing up the pics is hard haha
19:16:58 <Ballig> I'm not sure if you need to do the graphics
19:17:07 <Ballig> I think they might have their own graphic artists
19:17:22 <Ballig> I mean obviously they do, but I think those artists do the art
19:17:25 <Ballig> to keep it consistent
19:17:31 <Brunius> Yeah I think that's right
19:17:42 <Brunius> Also the faction missions are apparently done seperately
19:17:50 <Ballig> oh are they
19:18:22 <Brunius> Yeah there was a thread on the paizo forums bitching about them and one of the scenario authors said they were done seperately
19:18:52 <fued> ah ok
19:36:19 <Avatar> that might have been just for that one scenario
19:37:20 <Brunius> Perhaps
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20:18:12 <Mekkis> Brunius, do you want me to run Fortune's Blight?
20:18:25 <Brunius> I'd rather play it before I run it
20:18:43 <Avatar> why fortune's blight specifically
20:18:51 <Mekkis> indeed
20:18:52 <Mekkis> why?
20:18:55 <Brunius> because that's what I've got
20:18:58 <Mekkis> Rebel's Ransom is better
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20:46:30 <fued>
20:46:39 <Ballig>
20:46:51 <fued> 旕ઋꀗĄ玩畕
20:47:11 <fued> downloads take too long
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22:10:30 <Mekkis> is it metagaming to assume that a caster level check of 10 is insufficient to overcome SR?
22:11:02 <fued> at level 1?
22:11:12 <Mekkis> at any level
22:15:41 <Mekkis> is it metagaming to ask a question beginning with "Is it metagaming" while /communing/ with Asmodeus?
22:19:23 <fued> is it metagaming ot be playing a game about metagaming
22:28:18 <Mekkis> Asmodeus knows all anyway!
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22:31:03 <fued> Suedomsa!
22:31:17 <Mekkis> pseudomsa
22:31:45 <Mekkis> did you do a write-in vote for Donald Duck?
22:31:50 <Mekkis> Steven?
22:33:04 <fued> <Steven> yes, yes i did
22:33:11 * fued does shifty eyes
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22:37:57 <Mekkis> !feat Deadly Aim
22:38:00 <diebot> Mekkis, DEADLY AIM [Combat]Prereq: Dex 13, base attack bonus +1. You can make exceptionally deadly ranged attacks by pinpointing a foe's weak spot, at the expense of making the attack less likely to succeed.
22:38:00 <diebot> Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all ranged attack rolls to gain a +2 bonus on all ranged damage rolls. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every +4 thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an attack roll and its effects last until
22:38:00 <diebot> your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage. Source: Core
23:06:07 <Mekkis> http://www.collegehumor.com/picture/6646265/dragon-coffee-art
23:06:09 <Mekkis> wow
23:08:37 <fued> not bad, its not incredably complex either
23:08:43 <fued> someone probably did that in like 30 seconds lol
23:08:56 <Mekkis> yeah. I wish I could do any form of latte art
23:09:09 <fued> id prefer a useful sort of art lol
23:09:23 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
23:09:41 <Mekkis> I'm not implying that art and use are mutually exclusive
23:09:58 <Mekkis> but I think usability should have a higher priority than art
23:10:09 <fued> a type of art that would benefit me in the creation of my games would be nice :P
23:10:21 <Mekkis> let's look at Windows 8 for an example :)
23:10:21 <fued> coffee art just isnt quite part of that
23:10:30 <Mekkis> are games "useful"?
23:10:54 <fued> yes
23:10:59 <Mekkis> how so?
23:11:03 <fued> entertainment
23:11:08 <fued> education
23:11:18 <fued> social these days too
23:11:51 <fued> i aced geography all that way though school thanks to civilisation and railroad tycoon haha
23:13:43 <Mekkis> fued, you should join the Empire game!
23:14:03 <Mekkis> http://www.wolfpackempire.com/players.html
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23:22:21 <fued> browser based game?
23:23:25 <fued> in a telnet client lol
23:23:27 <fued> odd
23:23:30 <Mekkis> neither
23:23:36 <Mekkis> in an Empire client
23:24:02 <Mekkis> http://www.wolfpackempire.com/clients.html
23:24:26 <Mekkis> fyi: people were talking about it on what passed for the internet in 1982.
23:24:52 <Mekkis> there's a server at us.ti4200.info port 6665
23:24:59 <Mekkis> if you want a Country there
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23:27:41 <fued> looks alright
23:27:51 <fued> i might check it out tommorow
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