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// #d&d — 2012-04-22

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00:09:22 <Mekkis> heh
00:09:35 <Mekkis> Weird things happen in Kaer Maga
00:09:43 <Mekkis> like the White Lady :)
00:14:47 <Avatar> did that game finally end
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00:15:32 <Avatar> do you know what game you plan on running
00:15:54 <Mekkis> yeah
00:15:58 <Mekkis> City of Strangers 2
00:16:58 <Ballig> didn't you sign up for the game that was meant to start just over 11 hours ago SaintCaleth
00:17:37 <Avatar> is that tier 1-2
00:17:39 <Avatar> er, 1-5
00:18:18 <SaintCaleth> The power was out for most of today
00:18:22 <Avatar> and is it going to be another 10 hour game or are you going to split it
00:18:27 <Mekkis> 1-7
00:18:45 <Mekkis> it won't be longer than 8 hours
00:18:51 <Prissa> hey....Zzzzzzz
00:19:10 <SaintCaleth> I'm in China and this sort of thing happens
00:19:12 Prissa is now known as matt
00:22:25 <Tashes> Haii!
00:22:38 <Mort-> its scawy
00:22:54 <Mort-> I wont be around cos I already played
00:23:03 <Mort-> finally came a full circle
00:23:14 <Mort-> begining and the end
00:23:45 <Mort-> you really NEVER have enough time..
00:23:52 <matt> damn goblins!
00:23:54 <Mort-> besides perosnally Im fine with the journey..
00:24:01 <Mort-> its the journey not the destination
00:24:07 <Mort-> anwyay too bad about the downmarket bit..
00:24:11 <Mort-> ah wellz
00:24:37 <Mort-> but in combat healing is pretty useful
00:24:46 <Mort-> just cant do it..
00:25:02 <Mort-> Hi tashes
00:25:06 * Mort- wags her tailie at tashes
00:25:12 <Mekkis> Mort-, are there any scenarios Mort needs to play?
00:25:18 <Mort-> what scenarios
00:25:21 <Mort-> nothing in particular
00:25:26 <Mort-> everything that hasnt been played goes
00:25:42 <Mort-> I need to follow jerus around soon..
00:25:46 <Mort-> so he can level up
00:25:51 <Mort-> I think hes 1 scenario from leveling
00:25:57 <Mort-> so is mort anwyay
00:26:20 <Mekkis> Mort-, what I mean is, before you level out of tier 1-7
00:26:38 <Mekkis> you've played Shadow's Last Stand 1, but not part 2?
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00:26:50 <Mort-> oh yeah
00:26:51 <Mort-> true
00:26:53 <Mort-> I forgot
00:26:56 <Mort-> yeah we can do that
00:26:57 <Mort-> I forget :D
00:26:58 <Mort-> sorry
00:27:10 <Mekkis> anything else?
00:27:23 <Mort-> Ill hceck
00:28:30 <Mort-> shades of ice I and III
00:28:34 <Mort-> but I dont think itll happen
00:30:00 <Mort-> morts leveling up
00:30:57 <Mort-> done declined it
00:31:21 <Avatar> haven't you played shades of ice 1?
00:31:28 <Mort-> shades of ice II?
00:31:30 <Mort-> not I
00:31:38 <Avatar> well 1 and 2
00:31:40 <Avatar> I ran them in here
00:31:43 <Mort-> uh oh
00:31:46 <Mort-> which means Im 7 already?
00:31:47 <Mort-> OH FK
00:31:51 <Mekkis> isn't Shades of Ice 1=5
00:31:56 <Avatar> yeah
00:32:08 <Mort-> sorry
00:32:36 <Mort-> I dont think
00:32:38 <Avatar> I've found auditing what scenarios you've played on your character sheet is a brilliant idea
00:32:40 <Mort-> I played shades of ice I?
00:32:41 <Mort-> Y did
00:32:43 <Mort-> I did
00:32:46 <Mort-> and am doing now
00:33:03 <Avatar> I was probably going to run shades of ice 3 next
00:33:23 <Mort-> I remember escorting goblins
00:33:26 <Mort-> wasnt it shade of Ice II?
00:33:34 <Avatar> that's frostfur captives
00:35:16 <Avatar> actually I think I ran shades of ice 2 twice
00:35:29 <Avatar> surely you've played it
00:35:40 <Mekkis> you did
00:35:50 <Mekkis> it was a disaster the second time you ran it :P
00:36:21 <Avatar> yeah
00:36:34 <Avatar> the first time you cheesed your way through it
00:36:40 <Mort-> first time?
00:36:43 <Mort-> why is it I dont remember
00:37:13 <Mekkis> the two gnomes slaughtered the dragon!
00:37:27 <Avatar> probably because you played with mekkis and the game was so fast because mekkis was cheesing everything with his roc and lance combo
00:37:30 <Mekkis> in the surprise round
00:37:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, Bob was there too!
00:38:45 <Mekkis> you can't just blame Grolschmir
00:38:58 <Mort-> no\
00:39:03 <Mort-> I dont remember any dragons
00:39:09 <Mort-> and I dont remember grosh
00:39:10 <Mekkis> actually, you shouldn't blame either!
00:39:17 <Mort-> so somewhere
00:39:26 <Mekkis> has Mort actually adventured with Grolschmir?
00:39:34 <Mort-> no
00:39:36 <Mekkis> hehe
00:39:43 <Mekkis> Grolschmir outranks Mort!
00:39:52 <Mort-> so I couldnt have played shadeso f Ice II?
00:39:57 <Mort-> why did I get an impression that I have
00:40:01 <Mort-> nevermind, digging up what I can find
00:40:03 <Mort-> its all over the place
00:40:49 <Avatar> you might have played the disaster
00:40:49 <Avatar> game
00:40:50 <Mort-> I remember being an an inn
00:40:54 <Avatar> but that was incredibly memorable
00:40:57 <Mort-> having stomach troubles
00:41:02 <Mort-> and trying to do my faction mission with tasiv
00:41:07 <Mort-> was that shades of ice?
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00:41:14 <Avatar> don't know
00:41:19 <Mort-> (as in trying to fake I had sotmach troubles)
00:41:22 <Mort-> can I read the faciotn mission out ot you?
00:41:29 <Mort-> in pm
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00:42:11 <Mekkis> I should run Shadow's Last Stand 2
00:42:25 <Matt> Now I can't sleep. Lol
00:43:00 * Mort- fluffs matt
00:43:31 <Mekkis> ah
00:43:32 <Matt> :)
00:44:03 <Mekkis> the PFS faction guide: for each 10 points of fame, you get +1 to diplomacy against members of that faction
00:44:19 <Mekkis> Grolschmir made great use of that in Shadow's Last Stand 2 :)
00:44:45 <Mort-> you mean you ordered everone around
00:44:49 <Mort-> mort doesnt mind being ordered around
00:44:59 <Mekkis> that too!
00:45:57 <Mekkis> when a diplomatic mission is set in Andoran, having a famous Andoran in the party helps :)
00:46:22 <Mort-> I doubt that mort would do such a thing
00:46:41 <Mekkis> and Grolschmir is famous
00:47:08 <Mekkis> just MENTION Grolschmir at a table in Brisbane, or in Melbourne, and people know who he is!
00:48:03 <Mort-> its u and the flying roc thing
00:48:07 <Mekkis> yeah
00:48:20 <Mort-> wheres the mirc saved documents
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00:54:00 <Steven_> herro
00:54:03 <Mekkis> moin
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01:05:24 <Mort-> k time to level up now
01:05:28 <Mort-> should i take my step towards the dark side?
01:05:39 <Steven_> yes
01:06:14 <vpsirc> what do you mean?
01:06:16 <Mort-> there is a price..
01:06:20 <Mort-> a familiar...
01:06:21 <Avatar> do any of you play SCRAMBLE WITH FRIENDS
01:06:22 <Mort-> my familiar..
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01:06:34 * Mort- wonders if she should walk down that side
01:06:49 <Steven_> nopes, i dont play scrable because im too amazing at it and my friend hate me
01:06:59 <Avatar> it's scramble
01:07:01 <Avatar> not scrabble
01:07:05 <Avatar> mr amazing spela
01:07:12 <MekkisScreen> nope, I have better things to do with my phone
01:07:19 <Mort-> Im 3 now..
01:07:25 <Avatar> like wish you had a new one
01:07:44 <Steven_> im not an amazing speller, i just have a great vocab so i know more words then average people
01:08:02 <MekkisScreen> Avatar, the phone I want has been made: it's just only available to developers
01:08:07 <MekkisScreen> the N950
01:08:32 <Mort-> dont tell me I never played shades of ice?
01:08:33 <Mort-> argggh
01:08:43 <Mort-> my chronicle sheets are literalyl all over the damn place
01:08:48 <Avatar> mekkis can check it for you, he would have reported that game
01:08:54 <Mort-> help..
01:08:58 <Mort-> ?
01:09:08 <MekkisScreen> I'm in bed
01:09:20 <Avatar> or you should be able to check it yourself
01:09:29 <MekkisScreen> IRCing on a server in the netherlands
01:09:31 <Avatar> https://secure.paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/myAccount
01:09:38 <Avatar> log in and go to the player tab
01:09:45 <MekkisScreen> on my phone
01:09:48 <MekkisScreen> :)
01:09:50 <Mort-> thanks Ill try
01:10:50 <Avatar> lord, tristen, thelen, jaggedsoul and brunius played in the disaster game of shades of ice 2
01:11:09 <Avatar> so you would've played in the cheesed mekkis game, which is why you can't remember it
01:12:03 <Steven_> 6hrs till i play year of the shadowlodge
01:12:13 <Mort-> no
01:12:14 <Mort-> I didnt
01:12:21 <Mort-> I mustve mixed up frostfur captives with shadeso f ice
01:12:22 <Mort-> fk
01:14:13 <Steven_> im hungry
01:14:24 <Mort-> let me see what I mixed up now
01:14:52 <Mort-> foudn it
01:14:57 <Mort-> I put shades of ice
01:15:01 <Mort-> instead of shadows last stand
01:15:03 <Mort-> k
01:15:05 <Mort-> now to sort khaz out
01:15:10 <Mort-> should I walk down the dark side?
01:15:14 <Mort-> I didnt use much of my dark side powers
01:15:39 <Mort-> put khaz and jerus together, I wont level mort for abit
01:16:25 <Avatar> shades of ice 1 only had ballig, tristen and thelen when I ran it
01:16:38 <Ballig> and mekkis
01:16:54 <Ballig> oh wait that was 2
01:17:01 <Ballig> yeah I played 1 on artimus
01:17:04 <Mort-> anwyay yes I never played the shades of ice series
01:17:08 <Mort-> Im leveling khaz up now..
01:17:23 <Avatar> looks like you weren't in shades of ice 2 either
01:17:27 <Mort-> should I walk downthe dark side
01:17:29 <Mort-> yeah I never played it
01:17:33 <Mort-> but scenario numbers still the same
01:17:35 <Avatar> neither of them?
01:17:37 <Mort-> because I put in shades of ice II
01:17:38 <Mort-> yeah
01:17:43 <Mort-> instead of shadows last stand
01:17:44 <Avatar> that's crazy talk mort
01:17:53 <Mort-> I never played shades of ice II
01:17:55 <Mort-> its on the pazio site
01:18:07 <Mort-> mustve mixed it up with frostfur captives
01:18:12 <Avatar> yeah most of the scenarios are on the paizo site
01:18:49 <Mort-> yes
01:18:53 <Mort-> so I never played shades of Ice
01:19:13 <Mort-> okay
01:19:14 <Steven_> mort...
01:19:15 <Steven_> lets fight
01:19:16 <Mort-> familiar or arcane strke
01:19:18 <Mort-> now
01:19:21 <Mort-> for what
01:19:26 <Mort-> Im trying to levle up you silly nub
01:19:26 <Mort-> :D
01:19:30 <Steven_> so
01:19:37 <Steven_> that doesnt concern me
01:19:49 * Steven_ beings violently throwing cookies at mort.
01:20:19 * Mort- kicks steven
01:20:31 * Steven_ pelts mort with more cookies
01:20:36 * Mort- eats all hte cookies up
01:20:48 <Mort-> So yes - now I choose either a bat familiar or I take arcane strike
01:21:06 * Steven_ steals chronical sheets off mort while shes distracted with cookies.
01:21:20 <Mort-> cool
01:22:56 <Steven_> i dunno bout that arcane strike thing...
01:23:07 <Mort-> I cant get PA..
01:23:12 <Mort-> I already cant hit the broadside of a barn
01:23:14 <Steven_> doesnt it take a swift action to do your arcane pool?
01:23:15 <Mort-> dont want to make matters worse
01:23:19 <Mort-> yes it does
01:23:24 <Mort-> but the point is once Ienchant aracne pool
01:23:26 <Mort-> Im happy for 10 rounds
01:23:35 <Mort-> the rest of te 10 rounds I can go and do other stuffs like use arcane strike
01:23:45 <Mort-> PA is better, but I really am NOt dealing with the -1 to hit..
01:23:48 <Mort-> already have some to hit issues
01:24:23 <Steven_> what -1 to hit?
01:24:37 <Mort-> PA
01:25:22 <Steven_> mort you change subjects far too often
01:25:34 <Mort-> probably
01:25:35 <Steven_> i wouldnt get arcane strike
01:25:38 <Mort-> I tend to get distracted
01:25:42 <Mort-> its + damage
01:25:53 <Mort-> first round - I enchant using arcane pool
01:26:00 <Mort-> the rest of the rounds my swift action is free for me to use
01:26:21 <Steven_> yeah, but its effectively +2 damage
01:26:53 <Steven_> sorry +3 damage
01:27:09 <Mort-> +1 from pool, +1 from arcane strike by that time
01:27:17 <Mort-> Im also eating a permanent -2 modifiers on my attacks already..
01:27:20 <Mort-> sort of
01:27:23 <Mort-> as a medium BAB class
01:27:35 <Steven_> but you're blowing a feat to get a swift action that adds +3 damage
01:27:52 <Steven_> that is the definition of crap
01:27:54 <Mort-> arcane strike improves wiht levels
01:28:02 <Mort-> will get +2 at 5..
01:28:08 <Mort-> PA does too..
01:28:20 <Steven_> power attack does not take an action to activate
01:28:24 <Mort-> I dont think sacrificing my to-hit is a good idea
01:28:31 <Mort-> and I cant hit hte broad side of the barn as it is
01:28:41 <Steven_> you cant hit right now
01:28:50 <Steven_> but later on characters end up hitting everything
01:28:53 <Mort-> i got to see myself at 11..
01:28:59 <Mort-> hitting was an issue :P
01:29:05 <Mort-> (again I probably fked up lots of wheres) :D
01:29:08 <Steven_> then you built yourself wrong
01:29:12 <Mort-> maybe..
01:29:20 <Steven_> theres no reason you should have any problems hitting
01:30:26 <Steven_> at level 10 you should have +10 to hit real easy
01:30:38 <Mort-> I was at +13 I think
01:30:44 <Mort-> kept missing those monsters still..
01:31:01 <Steven_> most mobs will have 20-30AC with a rare few up into the 30s
01:31:17 <Mort-> the monsters in question had about 26 ac..
01:31:20 <Mort-> anyway.
01:31:42 <Mort-> base was +8, then +5 for str, + 1 for magiced weapon
01:31:59 <Mort-> -2 for perma spell comat on
01:32:00 <Steven_> at level 11 you only had a +1 weapon? yeah you built wrong
01:32:01 <Mort-> combat on
01:32:03 <Mort-> probably
01:32:06 <Mort-> I was doing weird stuffs
01:32:15 <Mort-> (hey I was urm..trying to use a persistent hideous laughter rod on...)
01:32:20 <Mort-> (well they asked me to do it haha :P)
01:32:36 <Mort-> (I wouldnt really do it that way if I were really playing seriously :P)
01:33:04 <Mort-> PA?
01:33:05 <Mort-> argh
01:33:14 <Mort-> I can take both arcane strike an PA
01:33:14 <Steven_> what feats do you already have?
01:33:18 <Mort-> nothing
01:33:21 <Mort-> slate is pretty clean
01:33:36 <Steven_> unless your level 1 you have feats
01:33:41 <Mort-> combat casting, dodge
01:33:42 <Steven_> so what feats do you have right now
01:33:44 <Mort-> probably not the best of choices
01:33:50 <Mort-> but thats what I started with waay back
01:33:52 * Mort- shrugs
01:35:21 <Steven_> weapon focus is decent
01:35:29 <Mort-> +1 to hit?
01:35:42 <Mort-> yeah but probably when Im about to hit weapon spec - which is at 11..
01:35:44 <Mort-> loooong way to go
01:36:11 <Steven_> i can ask walter when i see him today
01:36:14 <Mort-> ah I really cant decide my feat
01:36:17 <Steven_> hes the guy that wrote the magus guide
01:36:21 <Mort-> I was thiking arcane strike
01:36:27 <Mort-> btw no I didnt take magical lineage
01:36:37 <Mort-> I tell you this is a long time back so some choices were suboptimal
01:36:40 <Mort-> did what I knew how..
01:37:10 <Mort-> and I think Ill skip enlarge person
01:37:16 <Mort-> nice in theory, in practical there is never enough time.
01:37:27 <Mort-> first thing I find myself charging right into the mess..
01:37:32 <Mort-> 2nd thing its either hes down or Im taking a dirtnap.
01:41:24 <Steven_> alright back
01:41:40 <Steven_> whats your arcane pool look like?
01:41:45 <Mort-> 4 points
01:41:49 <Mort-> I buff every bloody fight :P
01:41:54 <Mort-> no Im not a fan of arcane accuracy
01:41:59 <Mort-> I will use it to enchant my weapon. no more.
01:42:37 <Steven_> extra arcane pool would give you a 50% increase in your pool
01:42:49 <Mort-> why do I need so many pool points
01:43:20 <Mort-> until 4 I cant use spell recall
01:43:33 <Mort-> once at 5 with a +1 weapon I can perma "haste" myself every fight
01:43:47 <Steven_> you can do cool things w/ arcane pool points
01:43:53 <Steven_> thats the point of pool points
01:44:05 <Mort-> yes but i need the necessary feats for it too
01:44:15 <Mort-> I dont really intend to burn my pool points for arcane accuracy and taht kind of stuff
01:44:48 <Steven_> okay so why are you playing a magus then?
01:45:27 <Mort-> I did it that way because I wanted melee lessons
01:45:35 <Mort-> wihtout having to depend on silly casters who forgot their see invis spells
01:48:48 <Steven_> alright ill be back in a bit, gonna make breakfast for the sam
01:49:10 <Steven_> mort your homework till i get back is to try to get over the not using arcane points for effects okay
01:49:57 <Mort-> I use them primarily for effects
01:50:01 <Mort-> anyway. off to bed soon too
01:50:04 <Mort-> still considering
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01:54:06 <Mort-> night all
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04:36:04 <Hydrazine> yo.
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04:54:24 <matt> :D
04:55:48 <Steven> 2hrs
04:55:50 <N2H4> Long game is LONG.
04:56:02 <Steven> and its time for year of the shadow lodge
04:56:12 <N2H4> You're a shadow lodge.
04:56:13 <N2H4> OH!
04:56:31 <Steven> you're a shadow lodge
04:56:42 <N2H4> no u?
04:56:54 <Steven> no you!
05:00:39 <N2H4> Whats up man?
05:02:10 <Steven> taking a break from d3
05:02:17 <Steven> my friends not in the closed beta
05:02:23 <Steven> so he is playing non stop this weekend
05:02:40 <Steven> and he keeps bugging me to come try out all the different classes with him
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05:19:45 <Hydrazine> I see.
05:20:15 <Hydrazine> next time i have to that, i'm making save commands for Kyra.
05:20:56 <Hydrazine> i finished the open trial with my monk.
05:21:02 <Hydrazine> i think i like it more that witch doc.
05:21:17 <Hydrazine> run around and kick shit.
05:24:53 <War_Wrecker> Poke
05:27:31 <Hydrazine> poke
05:28:16 <War_Wrecker> Guess who LARPed friday night?
05:28:48 <Hydrazine> you?
05:29:59 <War_Wrecker> Obviously
05:30:19 <Hydrazine> Didn't know you were a LARPer.
05:30:33 <Hydrazine> I think that might be too far for me.
05:30:41 <Hydrazine> Hows it work?
05:30:42 <War_Wrecker> Eh just did it for the first time
05:30:44 <War_Wrecker> No big deal
05:30:50 <War_Wrecker> Well it really depends how you're larping
05:30:55 <Hydrazine> Well. Go on.
05:31:01 <War_Wrecker> What I did and what I think I'll keep doing went along the lines of this...
05:31:21 <War_Wrecker> Everyone hits eachother with foam swords and keeps track of hits taken and falls down when they've taken too many hits
05:31:38 <War_Wrecker> Although this is with teams
05:32:30 <Hydrazine> I've helped make some of those.
05:32:39 <Steven> we have some larpers here in moscow/pullman area
05:32:52 <Steven> except they actually have full sets of armor that they go and fight in
05:32:56 <War_Wrecker> For context, the first thing went over was the only 3 rules
05:33:04 <Hydrazine> My friend Joe made this sword about as tall as he is. It had red edges, and I think that meant something.
05:33:09 <War_Wrecker> Or hell the guidelines
05:33:19 <War_Wrecker> 1. Have fun.
05:33:21 <Steven> ive pointed out the historical inacuracies of people wearing full plate while not mounted
05:33:24 <Steven> but they dont listen
05:33:43 <War_Wrecker> 2. Be safe, don't hurt anyone.
05:33:47 <Hydrazine> Cause its hell to walk in?
05:33:51 <War_Wrecker> 3. Be fair.
05:33:56 <Steven> more like impossible to walk in
05:33:58 <War_Wrecker> Not because its hell to walk in
05:34:03 <Hydrazine> Pretty good base rules.
05:34:07 <War_Wrecker> Because walking is all you can do with it
05:34:20 <War_Wrecker> Its not hell to walk in, its just that you move too damn slow to be a threat to anything
05:34:25 <Steven> yeah, you're wearing like 200-250lbs in metal
05:34:39 <War_Wrecker> Full plate, 200lbs?
05:34:41 <Hydrazine> And tripping you is lols.
05:35:00 <Steven> yeah man, real full plate is some heavy shit
05:35:21 <Steven> because often times its on top of a suit of chainmail
05:35:36 <War_Wrecker> Yeah the chain mail would be 20-30% of the weight
05:35:37 <Hydrazine> get tripped and drown in the mud.
05:36:06 <War_Wrecker> Although I've been repetitively told that plate mail is actually quite light
05:36:12 <War_Wrecker> Compared to what people make it out to be
05:36:17 <War_Wrecker> What sources say that its 200lbs?
05:36:22 <Steven> oh platemail is light
05:36:32 <Steven> it maybe weighs like 60-70lbs
05:36:38 <Steven> but then youve got the chainmail
05:36:51 <Steven> and the padded armor
05:36:56 <War_Wrecker> 200lbs seems to be way above the upper limit
05:37:02 <Steven> all the belts and buckles
05:37:18 <Steven> then a shield
05:37:20 <War_Wrecker> You can't get on a horse with 250lbs of armor
05:37:21 <Steven> and your weapon
05:37:31 <Hydrazine> hmm.
05:37:32 <War_Wrecker> Swords weigh a few pounds
05:37:34 <Hydrazine> "It is a common misconception that the plate armour of European soldiers adversely affected mobility in a significant manner, but in fact soldiers equipped with plate armour were more mobile than those with chainmail armour."
05:37:35 <War_Wrecker> Believe it or not
05:37:38 <Steven> im saying a full seat combat ready is about 200-250lbs
05:38:31 <War_Wrecker> I'm calling bullshit
05:38:47 <War_Wrecker> But first I'm going to research
05:38:49 <Steven> if all they are wearing is the platemail thats true
05:39:15 <Steven> but when a knight went into battle they were wearing platemail, on top of a suit of chainmail
05:39:21 <Steven> that was on top of some padded armor
05:39:45 <War_Wrecker> Don't make me use wikipedia as my only reference
05:40:08 * Steven took European History of War
05:40:17 <Steven> im not saying im an expert
05:40:26 <Steven> but ive got a solid knowledge base
05:41:05 <Steven> when you add a full suit of armor together its heavy as hell
05:41:31 <War_Wrecker> Well according to wikipedia (and other things appear to be in agreement), jousting armor was far heavier than plate
05:41:34 <Steven> platemail+chainmail+padded armor+shield+weapon=needs horse to move around
05:41:55 <War_Wrecker> Because one didn't need mobility when jousting, so "the only limit was how much the horse could carry"
05:42:06 <Steven> its why Knights were considered so bad ass while fighting
05:42:17 <War_Wrecker> And that would be 100 pounds
05:42:31 <War_Wrecker> You're bad ass for fighting wearing 30 kilos of armor
05:42:33 <Hydrazine> because swords just slide right off.
05:43:57 <Steven> try to remember, that during the later periods of armored combat the weight of metal actually decreased due to advancements in forging meathods
05:44:00 <Hydrazine> Jerus could carry full plate and all that armor!
05:44:18 <Steven> metal armor i mean, not all metal in general
05:44:23 <War_Wrecker> As a general rule they never made armor heavier than people could fight in it
05:44:28 <Hydrazine> the weight of armor. the weight of metal doesn't change. Just good advancements to get more strength out of a thinner alloy.
05:44:31 <War_Wrecker> You can't fight in 120 pounds of armor
05:44:51 <War_Wrecker> 200 is a gross exaggeration
05:45:04 <Steven> actually wrecker american soldiers routinely fight in around 100lbs of gear
05:45:05 <War_Wrecker> Melee weapons rarely weigh more than 5kgs
05:45:19 <War_Wrecker> 120lbs of ARMOR
05:45:25 <War_Wrecker> Not counting gear
05:45:40 <War_Wrecker> and american soldiers CARRY gear and shoot guns
05:46:00 <War_Wrecker> Its a different story when that weight is wrapped around your body
05:46:04 <Hydrazine> Hooyah.
05:46:12 * Hydrazine gets all patriotic. and stuff.
05:46:16 <War_Wrecker> You don't swing guns around to shoot them, you just shoot them
05:48:08 <Hydrazine> 22 strength is superman..
05:50:34 <Steven> anyways plate is around 60lbs, chainmail is around what 50lbs, padded armor is around 15, shield is around 20lbs, swrod is like 5lbs, so thats 150lbs and thats considered to be advanced metal arms weight.
05:50:55 <Steven> so its not unlikely that earlier forms of armor were significantly heavier.
05:51:29 <Hydrazine> did they really wear full plate and full chain, or just some chain bits and not really a whole suit?
05:51:45 <Steven> depends on how wealthy they were
05:51:52 <Hydrazine> because that sounds alot more reasonable considering the weight.
05:52:14 <Steven> poor knights might have a gambison
05:52:42 <Steven> its basically the richer you were the more money you could invest in keeping yourself alive
05:53:40 <Steven> for the average knight, warwrecker's figure is spot on
05:53:41 <Hydrazine> i had fun yesterday, but i do want to game with jerus.
05:54:01 <Steven> they had a breastplate, and some light chain
05:54:09 <Steven> shield sword, padded armor
05:54:42 <Steven> alright i gotta go get ready for Year of the Shadow lodge
05:54:46 <Steven> you guys...
05:54:47 <Hydrazine> peace out homey.
05:54:48 <Steven> keep it sexy
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05:55:04 <War_Wrecker> ...
05:55:10 <War_Wrecker> Earlier armor wasn't heavier
05:55:12 <War_Wrecker> It was weaker
05:55:29 <War_Wrecker> >:(
05:56:17 <Hydrazine> i think I agree with Steven on that. It was either weaker or heavier. You had to use thicker material to get the same protection.
05:56:21 <War_Wrecker> Shields weighing 20lbs? Insanity. And only a 2 handed sword would weigh 5lbs. And nobody uses a 2 handed sword with a shield IN PLATE. You can't get any flexibility. And you don't wear full chainmail with platemail
05:56:29 <War_Wrecker> You COULD make thicker armor for more protection
05:56:31 <War_Wrecker> But then its too heavy
05:56:57 <Hydrazine> I'm talking more about metal working technology than really armor.
05:57:05 <War_Wrecker> Yeah that is spot on
05:57:17 <War_Wrecker> But the fact is soldier don't wear the heaviest they can wear
05:57:25 <War_Wrecker> they wear the heaviest they can wear that is still practical for fighting
05:58:30 <Hydrazine> Agree.
05:59:29 <War_Wrecker> Also; the numbers are lower than that
05:59:35 <War_Wrecker> And they're STILL exhausting to carry
05:59:36 <Hydrazine> I actually know a decent bit about metalworking and such. Had to learn it for school.
05:59:47 <War_Wrecker> A 3lb sword is still fucking heavy
05:59:59 <War_Wrecker> Due to the weight distribution and how much you're swinging it
06:00:10 <Hydrazine> Heh.
06:00:18 <War_Wrecker> 3 pounds is nothing
06:00:21 <Hydrazine> I've held a flamberge before.
06:00:25 <War_Wrecker> Unless its a 3 pound steel rod held in the hand
06:00:29 <Hydrazine> I could barely get it horizontal.
06:00:39 <War_Wrecker> Swords are balanced close to the hilt
06:00:43 <War_Wrecker> The blades are incredibly light
06:00:49 <Hydrazine> unless its 5 feet long.
06:00:52 <War_Wrecker> I've held replica non functional display swords
06:00:55 <War_Wrecker> THEY LACK BALANCE
06:00:57 <Hydrazine> then lever action works against you.
06:01:09 <War_Wrecker> Oh the center of balance is always as close as possible to the handle
06:01:15 <Hydrazine> I held a real flamberge. I could lift the thing, but that was about it.
06:01:16 <War_Wrecker> but thats STILL not enough
06:01:45 <Hydrazine> I don't think I could effectively swing it.
06:01:48 <War_Wrecker> Takes a hell of a lot out of the wrist
06:01:56 <War_Wrecker> And when you swing it your shoulder too
06:02:14 <Hydrazine> Just too much weight too far away. Leverage killed me.
06:02:47 <Hydrazine> It looked cool though.
06:03:29 <War_Wrecker> Hell, even foils are ungodly heavy
06:03:30 <Hydrazine> Huh. By the stats, Jerus' hammer weighs 12 pounds..
06:03:31 <Hydrazine> Jesus.
06:03:39 <War_Wrecker> Warhammer?
06:03:42 <War_Wrecker> Or maul?
06:03:52 <War_Wrecker> Because everyone calls mauls warhammers
06:04:00 <War_Wrecker> When the difference is that ones a gigantic sledge hammer
06:04:10 <Hydrazine> lucerne hammer.
06:04:13 <War_Wrecker> And the other is actually a small (but long) hammer
06:04:32 <War_Wrecker> Ah yeah
06:04:35 <War_Wrecker> Lucerna hammer
06:04:37 <War_Wrecker> no problem
06:04:37 <Hydrazine> well, the whole thing's 12 pounds. including the 6 feet or so of shaft.
06:04:39 <War_Wrecker> It's too handed
06:04:42 <War_Wrecker> two*
06:04:55 <Hydrazine> but still, lets see you swing that thing.
06:05:05 <War_Wrecker> You don't swing that really
06:05:12 <Hydrazine> I ballpark the flamberge I was messing with around 15 pounds or so, and I kicked my ass.
06:05:27 <Hydrazine> Yeah, more of a lift and drop, realistically, but lets see you get the lift part done.
06:05:37 <War_Wrecker> That's why it's 6 feet
06:05:49 <War_Wrecker> 7 foot!
06:05:52 <War_Wrecker> Wow
06:05:59 <Hydrazine> estimating that part.
06:06:05 <Hydrazine> Its reach, atleast.
06:06:09 <War_Wrecker> wiki says 7 foot pole
06:06:10 <Hydrazine> So I figure its about that long
06:06:27 <War_Wrecker> A 2 handed weapons reach is about as long as the weapon
06:06:39 <War_Wrecker> A 1 handed weapons reach is about as long as the weapon plus 1 metre
06:07:08 <War_Wrecker> Well technically less than a metre
06:07:20 <Hydrazine> I think I remember seeing somewhere that a well trained martial artist with a 7 section staff could occupy a 40 ft circle.
06:07:22 <War_Wrecker> But if you rotate your body and take a small step forward EASILY 1 metre
06:07:32 <Hydrazine> diameter.
06:08:06 <Hydrazine> Which boggled me a bit.
06:08:08 <War_Wrecker> That's scary
06:08:13 <Hydrazine> yeah.
06:08:25 <War_Wrecker> And yet I can't threaten with my whip
06:08:28 <War_Wrecker> What is this bullshit
06:08:49 <Hydrazine> I think its that a whip takes more preparation to use.
06:09:00 <War_Wrecker> Yeah i know
06:09:02 <Hydrazine> got to have it in the right place to make an effective attack.
06:09:10 <War_Wrecker> It's not a whip really
06:09:22 <Hydrazine> that and rules wise it would be pretty overpowering if you could.
06:09:25 <War_Wrecker> If you swing it its not a whip
06:09:29 <War_Wrecker> You lash a whip
06:09:33 <War_Wrecker> You swing a 7 section staff
06:09:41 <War_Wrecker> A whip strikes a point
06:09:52 <War_Wrecker> A staff sweeps through a point
06:09:55 <Hydrazine> True.
06:10:02 <War_Wrecker> Or it strikes if you stab with it
06:10:07 <War_Wrecker> In which case it pokes
06:10:23 <Hydrazine> but imagine enlarge person with a whip that did threaten.
06:10:40 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
06:10:43 <War_Wrecker> entire area is screwed
06:10:50 <War_Wrecker> Personally I'd rather just take a monk with a staff
06:10:57 <War_Wrecker> And enchant the staff with all manner of bullshit
06:10:57 <Hydrazine> Large Jerus occupies a 50ft circle.
06:11:09 <Hydrazine> so a whip would be more than that. 10 feet or so.
06:11:12 <Hydrazine> Damn.
06:11:35 <Hydrazine> 20ft reach on each side, plus 10ft of himself in the middle
06:12:50 <Hydrazine> So yeah, I get why a whip doesn't threaten
06:13:44 <Hydrazine> you playing with us sometime, War?
06:14:28 <War_Wrecker> When I have a free saturday or sunday
06:16:08 <Hydrazine> sweet.
06:16:15 <Hydrazine> yesterday's game was loooong.
06:22:04 <War_Wrecker> mmm
06:22:16 <War_Wrecker> Just looking at getting some Larp gear that won't set me back triple digits
06:22:33 <War_Wrecker> Already came up with an effective arsenal that should be cheap
06:23:18 <Hydrazine> yeah?
06:23:20 <Hydrazine> Whatcha using?
06:23:43 <War_Wrecker> Well I used a 2 handed sword entirely
06:24:00 <War_Wrecker> Friend got a bastard sword that's unfortunately too long to count as a 1 handed sword under the rules
06:24:02 <Hydrazine> made of?
06:24:07 <War_Wrecker> Latex
06:24:14 <Hydrazine> Which means what for you?
06:24:21 <War_Wrecker> Its all latex with fiber glass cores
06:24:22 <Hydrazine> 1h/2h rules?
06:24:32 <Hydrazine> huh.
06:24:33 <War_Wrecker> Problem is he bought that and a shield
06:24:43 <Hydrazine> like a latex foam or just straight latex?
06:24:47 <War_Wrecker> Latex foam
06:24:51 <Hydrazine> kay.
06:25:10 <Hydrazine> i was asking because i think straight rubber would still hurt like fuck.
06:25:11 <War_Wrecker> Anyhow it means I get to use either one since he can't use both
06:25:23 <Hydrazine> i see.
06:25:26 <War_Wrecker> But at the moment I might also need armor
06:25:35 <Hydrazine> whats the benefit of 2handers?
06:25:43 <War_Wrecker> 2 handers can be longer
06:26:01 <Hydrazine> thats what she said.
06:26:03 <War_Wrecker> You can get 1 handers that can be used with 2 hands
06:26:27 <War_Wrecker> But above a certain length you aren't allowed to use a sword with 1 hand because it gives too much reach and its a little unfair
06:26:50 <War_Wrecker> It favors large people with a greater reach advantage than they already have
06:27:11 <Hydrazine> I see.
06:27:22 <War_Wrecker> And the advantage of using 2 hands instead of one is leverage and control.
06:27:33 <War_Wrecker> The advantage of 1 is freedom.
06:27:38 <War_Wrecker> Also reach
06:27:40 <Hydrazine> freeeeeeeedom!
06:27:45 * Hydrazine braveheart.
06:27:54 <War_Wrecker> I might do that
06:27:57 <War_Wrecker> I have blue body paint
06:28:04 <Hydrazine> got a kilt?
06:28:08 <War_Wrecker> Nah
06:28:10 <War_Wrecker> Not yet
06:28:16 <War_Wrecker> Anyhow you get 3 health default
06:28:23 <War_Wrecker> Some people get less others more
06:28:27 <Hydrazine> why?
06:28:31 <War_Wrecker> Everything except magic deals 1 damage
06:28:43 <War_Wrecker> Certain character subsets get less health
06:28:50 <War_Wrecker> Most get more though
06:28:51 <Hydrazine> rogues and such?
06:29:18 <War_Wrecker> Yup. Rogues also get an instant kill from behind but I think that's not worth it because you have to tell them its an instant kill which makes it hard to chainstab
06:29:35 <War_Wrecker> Whereas if I get a dagger I can just repetitively stab everyone in the back all the time before anyone notices
06:29:49 <War_Wrecker> Also 1 more HP
06:29:51 <Hydrazine> get two and make it shank city.
06:30:07 <War_Wrecker> Tempting
06:30:23 <Hydrazine> be like a protoss zealot.
06:30:24 <War_Wrecker> What I did friday was mostly running around being intimidating and taking cheapshots
06:30:36 <War_Wrecker> And when people weren't looking I'd sneak around and hit people in the back
06:30:45 <War_Wrecker> I took potshots at peoples legs in clashing shield walls
06:30:53 <Hydrazine> nice.
06:31:01 <Hydrazine> Had fun?
06:31:03 <War_Wrecker> Since no headshots allowed and shields cover a lot and its really easy to parry
06:31:05 <War_Wrecker> Yup
06:31:13 <War_Wrecker> Its easy to parry a 2 handed sword away
06:31:17 <War_Wrecker> and then just hit my arms
06:31:27 <War_Wrecker> Especially if you have 2 swords
06:31:30 <War_Wrecker> Or a spear
06:31:32 <War_Wrecker> or a shield
06:31:43 <Hydrazine> Back in Hawaii for a while, we had an airsoft group.
06:31:45 <War_Wrecker> Whereas I just have this crappy 2 handed sword which I can use 1 handed
06:32:02 <War_Wrecker> Although intrinsically since its made of foam and weighs like 700 grams I can wield it with 2 fingers
06:32:02 <Hydrazine> funny how camo became more common after someone tried it and we figured out how effective it is.
06:32:06 <War_Wrecker> Anyhow do go on
06:32:30 <Hydrazine> we had a really sweet place to play. this dried up old riverbed with lots of woods on both sides.
06:32:48 <Hydrazine> so we set up two flags (PVC+bandanas)
06:32:58 <Hydrazine> on opposite sides of a stretch of riverbed.
06:33:04 <Hydrazine> and had us a real life CTF match.
06:33:40 <Hydrazine> And we learned that regular old splotchy camo is ridiculously effective with enough trees if you just sit still.
06:34:01 <Hydrazine> anbd part of the advantage of airsoft over paintball, is that you don't really see it in the air.
06:34:17 <Hydrazine> so for example, lone Hydra moves on the enemy flag. scouts it out for a minute, sees no hostiles..
06:34:28 <Hydrazine> moves out and gets shot to shit from like 3 different directions. still didn't see anyone.
06:35:46 <Hydrazine> we even had respawn timers!
06:35:58 <War_Wrecker> :D
06:36:08 <War_Wrecker> Yeah I've considered getting into paintball
06:36:15 <War_Wrecker> But in victoria its 18 and up
06:36:21 <War_Wrecker> And some of my friends are only just turning 18
06:36:34 <War_Wrecker> But I don't think I'd play enough to warrant buying anything
06:36:45 <Hydrazine> fair enough. it does get expensive.
06:37:12 <Hydrazine> and one of our guys got himself an airsoft sniper rifle.
06:37:39 <Hydrazine> we were all kind of curious about how well it would work, considering the general strategy is to get something full auto and bullet hose until you hit something.
06:38:06 <War_Wrecker> Hah
06:38:11 <Hydrazine> but he got more kills than the rest of us, and burned like 10 times less ammo.
06:38:13 <War_Wrecker> Got a borrowed nerf reflex sitting here
06:38:20 <War_Wrecker> Its a one shot muzzle loader
06:38:26 <War_Wrecker> Its essentially a stripped down long shot
06:38:32 <War_Wrecker> its all firing mechanism and barrel
06:38:37 <War_Wrecker> hell, no barrel
06:38:42 <War_Wrecker> The tip of the dart sticks out
06:38:57 <War_Wrecker> Consequently it gets the best range and near the best accuracy of all nerf guns
06:39:33 <War_Wrecker> And it get me 6 hits with 9 shots. So I'm happy with that.
06:39:41 <War_Wrecker> In a battle
06:40:54 <Hydrazine> huh.
06:40:54 <War_Wrecker> And yeah for the larping the majority of people are using these
06:40:56 <War_Wrecker> http://www.calimacil.com/technique.html
06:40:58 <Hydrazine> legal in game huh?
06:41:03 <War_Wrecker> Different game
06:41:05 <Hydrazine> ah.
06:41:28 <Hydrazine> on a whim back in hawaii, when i was floating in money..
06:41:53 <Hydrazine> me and my girlfriend bought a vulcan and set it up to open supressive fire on my roommate.
06:43:08 <War_Wrecker> :D
06:44:22 <War_Wrecker> Yeah anyhow
06:44:29 <War_Wrecker> I've been tempted to buy a nerf gun
06:44:37 <War_Wrecker> But any fun use of them results in losing ammo
06:45:06 <War_Wrecker> And they're just too inefficient
06:45:24 <War_Wrecker> As someone who is mechanically minded it just kills me looking at manual firing systems
06:45:45 <War_Wrecker> Nerf guns are completely unoptimized as projectile weapons
06:46:17 <War_Wrecker> They need to fire smaller darts so they can be fired faster and still have the same force at impact
06:48:41 <Hydrazine> theres a video where some nerds modded out the nerf vulcan.
06:48:46 <Hydrazine> to like quadruple the firing speed
06:48:58 <War_Wrecker> Still useless
06:49:12 <War_Wrecker> Firstly you have to load all the darts by hand
06:49:20 <War_Wrecker> Secondly that kills what little accuracy you had
06:49:39 <War_Wrecker> Although getting the firing mechanism working that fast is impressive
06:49:51 <War_Wrecker> Spray and pray is stupid and excessive with nerf guns
06:49:51 <Hydrazine> all they did was pump the voltage up.
06:49:59 <War_Wrecker> Eh
06:50:06 <War_Wrecker> I'd rather fire slowly but cycle quickly
06:50:25 <Hydrazine> how is the firing speed seperate from the cycle speed?
06:50:33 <War_Wrecker> Manual fire
06:50:41 <War_Wrecker> Or semiautomatic
06:50:51 <Hydrazine> Same thing then I'd say. You can fire it semi.
06:51:03 <War_Wrecker> Well thats dandy then
06:51:12 <War_Wrecker> Except that its still a nerf vulcan
06:51:14 <War_Wrecker> :P
06:51:26 <War_Wrecker> No effective nerf guns are allowed for any games
06:51:40 <War_Wrecker> The big rocket launcher isn't allowed because it fires with too much force
06:51:42 <War_Wrecker> Its "unsafe"
06:51:50 <Hydrazine> never seen that one in action
06:51:51 <War_Wrecker> See also banned for usefulness
06:52:09 <War_Wrecker> Nobody likes to sell it because its not as safe
06:52:12 <War_Wrecker> idk
06:52:55 <War_Wrecker> Also...
06:52:57 <War_Wrecker> one shot?
06:53:02 <Hydrazine> hm?
06:53:03 <War_Wrecker> Its a bigger shot, but still just one shot
06:53:07 <Hydrazine> ah.
06:53:08 <Hydrazine> yeah.
06:53:30 <War_Wrecker> All nerf guns beyond basic ones are just excessive and pandering to machoism
06:54:03 <War_Wrecker> The idea of a "nerf sniper" like the long shot is a joke
06:54:19 <War_Wrecker> Accuracy over distance is accomplished by making bullets fly faster
06:54:31 <War_Wrecker> Nerf guns fire darts and micro darts
06:54:43 <War_Wrecker> Micro darts are shorter
06:55:03 <War_Wrecker> A sniper fires with more accuracy by having more force
06:55:16 <War_Wrecker> Well not just accuracy but accuracy over distance
06:55:26 <War_Wrecker> See also nerfguns, accuracy, wut?
06:55:31 <War_Wrecker> nerfguns, distance wut?
06:55:42 <War_Wrecker> I mean I like nerfguns
06:55:50 <War_Wrecker> But the long shot is eye candy
06:56:11 <War_Wrecker> Maverick is the best nergun for a reason
06:56:32 <War_Wrecker> Or a fan favorite
06:56:48 <War_Wrecker> Better guns are all electronic because other firing mechanisms don't go very fast at all
06:57:31 <War_Wrecker> And since theres little recoil nerf guns don't need to be long and have a stock
06:57:48 <War_Wrecker> So anything that's not a hand gun is superfluous
06:58:05 <Hydrazine> you're a recoil!
06:58:42 <War_Wrecker> :P
06:59:34 <Hydrazine> in airsoft we had some rules for safety and comfort.
06:59:50 <War_Wrecker> Yeah that sounds about right
06:59:56 <Hydrazine> if your big rifle was over a certain firing velocity, you weren't allowed to use it closer than 20 feet.
07:00:23 <War_Wrecker> Yeah... airsoft is pretty dangerous
07:00:30 <Hydrazine> I borrowed a few rifles like that, and I'm a nice guy, so I pulled my pistol when two guys got within 10 feet of me and didn't know it.
07:01:14 <Hydrazine> Not really.
07:01:17 <War_Wrecker> Yeah reserve weapons are fun
07:01:23 <War_Wrecker> Well not dangerous
07:01:24 <Hydrazine> Not too dangerous. Long as everyone's wearing eye protection.
07:01:26 <War_Wrecker> POTENTIALLY dangerous
07:01:43 <Hydrazine> We only had blood drawn on the field like twice.
07:01:49 <War_Wrecker> I do crew work for all sorts of stuff
07:01:58 <Hydrazine> and once because they were crawling prone through thich bush.
07:02:05 <Hydrazine> and got like face to face before they saw eachother.
07:02:08 <War_Wrecker> And its like "yeah this is 'dangerous'... if you're an idiot"
07:02:23 <War_Wrecker> "Just use common sense and you'll be fine"
07:02:42 <Hydrazine> yeah. like don't shoot eachother point blank.
07:02:49 <War_Wrecker> Don't aim for the head/face
07:03:06 <War_Wrecker> Don't aim for flesh
07:03:23 <Hydrazine> yeah, we all learned pretty quick.
07:03:40 <War_Wrecker> Yeah there was an accident at the larp
07:03:47 <War_Wrecker> someone got cut with a sword
07:04:04 <War_Wrecker> I think they got hit with the hilt
07:04:05 <War_Wrecker> in the hid
07:04:07 <War_Wrecker> head*
07:04:09 <War_Wrecker> bleh
07:04:39 <War_Wrecker> Blood was drawn but I think it was mostly just the force of getting hit in the head
07:04:49 <War_Wrecker> we actually had to call out our medic
07:05:42 <War_Wrecker> Like this was a big gruff guy
07:05:47 <War_Wrecker> Floored
07:05:52 <War_Wrecker> he walked it off later
07:06:00 <War_Wrecker> But somehow that happened with a foam sword
07:06:39 <War_Wrecker> Yeah (swordcraft) is meant to be non contact
07:06:44 <War_Wrecker> But accidents happen
07:07:36 <Hydrazine> we learned to wear longsleeves and pants for airsort.
07:07:46 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
07:07:55 <War_Wrecker> We're recommended but not required to wear gloves
07:08:02 <Hydrazine> and most people took to a hat and a maybe a bandanna around the neck.
07:08:03 <War_Wrecker> I managed to get a nick on my finger
07:08:24 <War_Wrecker> Safety induction including someone telling everyone that getting hit in the nuts beats getting hit in the throat
07:08:28 <Hydrazine> because one guy got shot like right at 20 feet with one of the most powerful weapons on the field. right in the neck. he was down for a bit.
07:08:43 <Hydrazine> nothing really dangerous, just hurt like fuck.
07:08:53 <War_Wrecker> Yeah I've been hit in the throat with a foil with the helmets collar for protection
07:09:00 <War_Wrecker> Worst evar
07:09:48 <War_Wrecker> Also lunged forward and the parry riposte was about 20 cms too close
07:09:57 <War_Wrecker> the foil was banana shaped... against my stomach
07:10:14 <War_Wrecker> Still beats getting hit in the throat
07:10:24 <War_Wrecker> I can only imagine getting shot with no protection in the throat
07:15:45 <Hydrazine> i had a few that left some pretty lasting bruises.
07:18:39 <War_Wrecker> Yeah so far I'm sporting bruises from pratfalling
07:18:55 <War_Wrecker> sword craft is meant to be a performance and a game
07:18:58 <War_Wrecker> Not a competition
07:19:37 <War_Wrecker> There's meant to be some role playing in there somewhere
07:20:05 <War_Wrecker> I think I'll just settle for inexpensive and go with near nudity for clothes
07:20:41 <Hydrazine> i'm some someone will appreciate it
07:21:05 <War_Wrecker> :D
07:21:13 <War_Wrecker> Well I ran around a lot
07:21:32 <War_Wrecker> Apparently people would see this mop of hair flowing in the air
07:21:37 <War_Wrecker> changing directions and what not
07:23:11 <War_Wrecker> What I'm thinking is at least one sword
07:23:16 <War_Wrecker> at least one dagger
07:23:21 <War_Wrecker> possibly a shield
07:23:40 <War_Wrecker> Maybe get some greaves and bracers since I took a lot of hits on my limbs and few on my body
07:24:38 <War_Wrecker> In the name of cheapness and cunning brutality I'll use the 2 hander I have, a buckler, and a dagger in a wrist sheth
07:24:41 <War_Wrecker> sheath*
07:25:27 <War_Wrecker> Swords have a minimum striking distance
07:25:38 <War_Wrecker> And you have to swing them back, otherwise its "drum-rolling"
07:25:47 <War_Wrecker> Daggers are allowed to drum roll, so they really rack up hits
07:26:09 <War_Wrecker> I got a lot of hits from behind
07:26:52 <War_Wrecker> I mean I GAVE a lot of hits from behind
07:26:59 <War_Wrecker> took a few
07:27:41 <War_Wrecker> So tank and spank with minimum armor for maximum mobility
07:28:03 <War_Wrecker> And the moment i get an opportunity I flank and massacre with my dagger
07:28:53 <War_Wrecker> I actually managed to get behind enemy lines and take out an archer AND ESCAPE
07:29:29 <War_Wrecker> I could've got so many more if I could've dispatched them quicker
07:29:57 <War_Wrecker> A longsword and a targe provides EXCELLENT protection
07:30:25 <War_Wrecker> Armor provides armor points which are just additional hit points really
07:30:36 <War_Wrecker> Getting hit in the armor deals damage
07:31:03 <War_Wrecker> Getting hit on the sword or the shield does nothing
07:31:18 <Hydrazine> so parry your tits off?
07:31:30 <War_Wrecker> Although fireballs go through everything
07:31:57 <Hydrazine> so focus the squishies. as usual.
07:32:05 <War_Wrecker> Arrows and "bullets" go through parries but not shields
07:32:08 <Hydrazine> thats what Hokubi does!
07:32:19 <War_Wrecker> although arrows bullets and fireballs IGNORE armor points and go straight to wounds
07:33:07 <War_Wrecker> I had an arrow fired into my sword, I didn't even parry it
07:33:20 <War_Wrecker> Problem is you're not allowed to use a 2 handed sword in 1 hand as I said
07:33:35 <War_Wrecker> I keep inadvertently doing it on backswings and such
07:33:58 <War_Wrecker> The plan is to 2 hand it with a targe
07:34:13 <War_Wrecker> Hold it in the left hand and pull the dagger from the shield when i get close
07:34:28 <War_Wrecker> sheath it and swap it back when i need to defend myself
07:34:40 <War_Wrecker> Hell just screaming at people normally provides lots of defense
07:35:05 <War_Wrecker> I held off 3 people just HISSING at them
07:35:10 <Hydrazine> lol
07:35:15 <War_Wrecker> until a pikeman started getting advancing
07:35:32 <War_Wrecker> at which point i literally just legged it since last time i stuck around i got surrounded
07:35:53 <War_Wrecker> Noobs get 6 armor for free on their first time
07:35:59 <War_Wrecker> I had 6 armor 3 hp
07:36:06 <War_Wrecker> I need to get that armor back up for my next match
07:36:29 <War_Wrecker> My playstyle won't work without at least 6 hits
07:37:03 <War_Wrecker> I can put some character points into bonus wounds
07:37:18 <War_Wrecker> although apparently they're reworking some bits of character points soon
07:37:31 <War_Wrecker> Like you used to need them for weapons
07:39:16 <War_Wrecker> Tempting to also get a few swords daggers and just put them on cords
07:39:24 <War_Wrecker> so i can drop them when i need to change weapons
07:41:01 <War_Wrecker> That or find a way to quickly sheath a 2 hander
07:41:26 <War_Wrecker> Also for the costume I think I'll definitely be shirtless so no wristblades or anything up my sleaves
07:43:04 <Hydrazine> sounds like it might be fun.
07:43:09 <War_Wrecker> It was
07:43:14 <Hydrazine> I like whacking people with foam stuff.
07:43:21 <War_Wrecker> Problem is I don't wanna drop 100 on weapons and 100 on armor
07:43:26 <Hydrazine> And physical combat. I used to kickbox when i was younger.
07:43:33 <War_Wrecker> It's non contact
07:43:36 <War_Wrecker> you pull your hits
07:43:56 <War_Wrecker> Although being used to combat helps
07:44:07 <War_Wrecker> well I say non contact
07:44:09 <War_Wrecker> you still get hit
07:44:20 <War_Wrecker> but you swing fast but pull it at the last second so it hits softer
07:44:28 <War_Wrecker> if you swing slowly you'll never hit someone
07:44:48 <War_Wrecker> So you swing fast but don't follow through
07:44:54 <Hydrazine> i see.
07:45:02 <Hydrazine> Used to that.
07:45:11 <Hydrazine> Did really similar in practice matches.
07:45:21 <Hydrazine> Did more point sparring than knock people out fighting.
07:45:47 <Hydrazine> Refs just looking for good clean shots.
07:45:50 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
07:45:58 <War_Wrecker> But this is a massive brawl between 50+ people
07:46:11 <War_Wrecker> you're hitting people who aren't engaged with you
07:46:20 <Hydrazine> yeah, much different in that respect.
07:46:34 <Hydrazine> but i think some of the ideas, the mindset still applies.
07:46:41 <War_Wrecker> You can't trust people to take hits
07:47:03 <War_Wrecker> Its better to just to swiping stabs anyhow
07:47:13 <War_Wrecker> so you just end up whacking them with the tip
07:47:18 <War_Wrecker> well the edge of the tip
07:47:27 <Hydrazine> I'd think spears would be very effective.
07:47:33 <Hydrazine> Keep distance and just poke people.
07:47:38 <War_Wrecker> Except spears are easy to parry
07:47:52 <War_Wrecker> And spearmen are FOOD for 2v1
07:48:00 <War_Wrecker> swordsmen can hold their own in 2v1
07:48:16 <War_Wrecker> they can escape a 2v1 after parrying and threatening a bit
07:48:21 <War_Wrecker> a spearman in a 2v1 is fucked
07:48:45 <War_Wrecker> But yeah spears are good
07:48:46 <Hydrazine> make a phalanx!
07:48:52 <War_Wrecker> Yeah
07:48:57 <War_Wrecker> archers
07:49:03 <Hydrazine> shield wall and spearmen, some archers..
07:49:09 <War_Wrecker> Also spears are hard to make and use
07:49:14 <War_Wrecker> since the entire haft as to be padded
07:49:35 <War_Wrecker> also, although you can't hit people
07:49:37 <War_Wrecker> you can hit weapons
07:49:47 <War_Wrecker> you can hold someones weapon down and to the side when you parry it
07:49:53 <Hydrazine> nice.
07:49:57 <War_Wrecker> so you can pull someones weapon down with your shield
07:49:58 <Hydrazine> makes twf more worth it i'd think.
07:50:10 <War_Wrecker> and go to town while they retreat and bring it back up
07:50:18 <War_Wrecker> longer weapons are easier to knock down
07:50:57 <War_Wrecker> The advantage of reach is striking unsuspecting people without ever being close enough for you to hit them
07:51:13 <War_Wrecker> and by the time they react to do anything you've got your 2 feet of extra distance
07:51:21 <War_Wrecker> and the person distracting them is already back on their front
07:51:38 <War_Wrecker> Keep in mind 1 person can threaten 2 people
07:51:46 <Hydrazine> considered playing with a teammate then?
07:51:51 <War_Wrecker> there are teams
07:51:56 <War_Wrecker> its not a free for all
07:52:04 <Hydrazine> i mean YOU working with someone in particular.
07:52:04 <War_Wrecker> but theres a lot of people on each side
07:52:06 <War_Wrecker> nah
07:52:23 <War_Wrecker> We've got a rough structure but people move around too much
07:52:38 <War_Wrecker> Maybe later when tactics are more refined for the group
07:52:50 <War_Wrecker> Mostly I just stick with the flanking skirmishers
07:52:55 <War_Wrecker> And split off from them whenever I can
07:53:12 <War_Wrecker> They THREATEN the flank so a guard comes to defend against them
07:53:22 <War_Wrecker> then some of us go behind the guard so they defend against that
07:53:40 <War_Wrecker> meanwhile I go off to take potshots at anyone who currently thinks their backs are being protected
07:54:02 <War_Wrecker> Objective is to deal or cause wounds to be dealt while taking a few myself
07:54:22 <War_Wrecker> Very rarely do I stick around to duel someone down to 0
07:54:38 <War_Wrecker> Either I'm out matched or they are and they get reinforcements
07:54:54 <War_Wrecker> I'm often alone so I have to run back to reinforcements
07:54:59 <War_Wrecker> Of course this is all from one day
07:55:02 <War_Wrecker> But that was 4 hours
07:55:07 <War_Wrecker> 4 hours is a lot of fight time
07:56:22 <War_Wrecker> In 6 months of fencing I don't think I've done 4 hours of actual fight time
07:56:26 <Hydrazine> yeah, thats tons. got exhausted?
07:56:41 <War_Wrecker> At one point I suicided so I could catch my breath earlier on
07:56:43 <War_Wrecker> but nah I lasted
07:56:57 <Hydrazine> i remember when i first started kickboxing.
07:57:17 <Hydrazine> one 3 min round and i was DONE.
07:57:57 <War_Wrecker> Yeah martial arts are intense
07:58:03 <War_Wrecker> But since with this you're not putting force into it
07:58:08 <Hydrazine> fighting takes alot out of you. trying to stay defensive, movement..
07:58:09 <War_Wrecker> It's all about taking hits not dishing them out
07:58:13 <War_Wrecker> That and RUNNING
07:58:33 <Hydrazine> I was pulling my shots too.
07:58:46 <War_Wrecker> My sub division (war band) made a point to only go as fast as the slowest people
07:58:55 <Hydrazine> still got tired as shit.
07:58:56 <War_Wrecker> So I'd run outside the group but walk within it
07:59:10 <War_Wrecker> Yeah you pull your shots in sparring matches
07:59:30 <War_Wrecker> But you're still putting in force, you're just aiming a few inches in front of them as opposed to a few inches past
07:59:48 <War_Wrecker> As opposed to aiming to bop someone with a sword
08:00:14 <Hydrazine> heh, yeah.
08:00:25 <Hydrazine> after a while i got my endurance up and i could go for an hour solid and be fine.
08:00:42 <Hydrazine> but i can't forget how shocking it was the first time, just how drained I felt.
08:00:57 <Hydrazine> how long to real fights last? 20, 30 seconds?
08:02:52 <Avatar> my god I need more sleep
08:03:00 <Hydrazine> so sleep.
08:03:11 <War_Wrecker> Real fights last about a minute
08:03:18 <War_Wrecker> but thats counting the bits where nothing happens
08:03:50 <Avatar> I can't, I'm running a game soon
08:04:17 <Avatar> if said game was online, I'd be able to get 3 more hours of sleep !
08:16:32 <Hydrazine> whatcha running?
08:18:51 <Avatar> shades of ice 1
08:19:01 <Avatar> have you played it?
08:20:25 <Avatar> doesn't look like it
08:20:38 <Avatar> I was planning on running shades of ice 3 soon, but I didn't realise you and mort hadn't played 1 and 2
08:20:53 <Avatar> maybe I'll wait till someone else runs them for you guys
08:32:41 <Hydrazine> no, i haven't,
09:24:47 <Brunius> Dude
09:24:58 <Brunius> Why didn't anyone tell me Avatar was going to Blackburn?
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09:40:00 <Mort-> Hydra?
09:40:46 <Mort-> Hi matt if you aren't sleeping
09:40:57 <Hydrazine> yo
09:42:17 <Mort-> Have fun in city of strangers 2
09:42:26 <Mort-> Btw mort played it
09:42:42 <Mort-> With masked men leading them along :(
09:42:55 <Mort-> Oh. They even bagged socks :(
09:43:12 <Mort-> They didn't believe she was just a weasel. And a house pet :(
09:49:42 <Hydrazine> would you?
09:54:16 <Mort-> She is a weasel. With 4 white socks!
09:55:07 <Mort-> Also happens to be cleverer then some people :p
09:55:15 <Mort-> Probably rabble
09:57:13 <matt> I'm here...I only slept for 3 hours.
09:57:20 <matt> we should play now...lol
09:57:56 * matt isn't sleepy right now
09:59:20 <matt> maybe I'll put together a cleeric....though Prissa is kind of cool.
10:00:34 <Mort-> Lol
10:00:41 <Mort-> I havet leveled khaz
10:00:56 <Mort-> I don't know if i should step down the dark side :d
10:00:59 <matt> I need one more to level Prissa
10:01:03 <Mort-> He is calling you know :p
10:01:16 <matt> the evil one?
10:01:20 <Mort-> Don't know if anyone is around to gm today
10:01:21 <Mort-> Yes
10:01:23 * matt gasps
10:01:35 <Mort-> I already promised...
10:01:50 <matt> lol
10:01:54 <Mort-> But I didnt call upon him much last scenario
10:02:06 <Mort-> Blame not having a cleric around
10:02:16 <Mort-> About 4 times only
10:02:17 <matt> I did smell sulpher though....
10:02:35 <Mort-> Didn't technically have to. But did it for fun
10:02:42 <matt> I was woried that one hit killed you...
10:02:44 <Mort-> I only really called on him once
10:02:49 <Mort-> No
10:02:52 <matt> the +16 one
10:02:58 <Mort-> 17 hp.
10:03:02 <Mort-> 13 cons
10:03:12 <matt> nice, you're 2nd?
10:03:41 <Mort-> Of course :p
10:03:51 <Mort-> Or I'm a 3rd now
10:03:57 <Mort-> Hoku is a 2 too
10:04:00 <matt> one more for me and I'll be 2nd....I get dr1 then
10:04:34 <Mort-> I had to fend off 3 goblins at the start
10:04:55 <matt> saw that....very nice.
10:04:59 <Mort-> Did you think that i was a level 1 after they hit me and i was still standing?
10:05:24 <matt> I didn't know what you were, so I thought the knocked you like -9 or something
10:05:26 <Mort-> Can tell you they were an inch from getting colour sprayed
10:05:29 <Mort-> No
10:05:41 <Mort-> I was at 1/17
10:06:03 <matt> ahhh...I wasnt really keeping track of it...
10:06:05 <Mort-> But again i didn't really have a good spot to cast it from.
10:06:21 <Mort-> And realized they go down easily.
10:06:26 <Mort-> Why waste resources.
10:06:31 <Mort-> Just whack :p
10:06:31 <matt> ya, one hit basically
10:07:01 <matt> I didn't need to rage I guess, but it helps to git as well
10:07:02 <Mort-> That human rogue? Never saw him coming :(
10:07:18 <matt> ya, he backsabbed ya?
10:07:21 <Mort-> If i were level 1...
10:07:27 <Mort-> Probably would be dead
10:07:30 <Mort-> Instantly
10:07:49 <Mort-> Yup.
10:08:13 <Mort-> 20 damage total
10:08:15 <Mort-> Hm
10:08:23 <matt> I need to update my char....it so cold here....brrrr I dont want to go out
10:08:25 <Mort-> At 1 i had 10 hp
10:08:37 <Mort-> Pull blanket off the bed
10:08:48 <Mort-> So yes. Familiar? :d
10:09:28 <matt> haha, good idea. my bed is like right next to my computer. I think I fell asleep for as few mins last know while we were playing.
10:09:45 <Mort-> No but should i? :p
10:09:53 <Mort-> I'm eyeing an imp for 7
10:10:19 <Mort-> Blame my companions for getting me to what i am.
10:10:22 <matt> the can do touch attacks for you
10:10:28 <matt> that's very nice.
10:10:33 <Mort-> Don't be silly
10:10:39 <Mort-> I don't use touch attacks
10:10:54 <matt> actually I still dont know what your char is
10:10:56 <Mort-> Ill hit them with my scimitar to discharge stuff
10:10:59 <Mort-> Haha
10:11:08 <Mort-> I want him to do my diplomacy!
10:11:10 <Mort-> Lol
10:11:14 <matt> hahaha....
10:11:17 <Mort-> I suck at it
10:11:26 <matt> that6's be great
10:11:29 <Mort-> Imps on the other hand...
10:11:32 <Mort-> Are invisible.
10:11:38 <Mort-> Make good scouts.
10:11:42 <matt> true.
10:11:46 <Mort-> Pretty good at talking
10:12:00 <matt> ya, always flying around. I always picked a raven...
10:12:11 <Mort-> Blame my companions for what i am now
10:12:26 <Mort-> I wouldn't have made that pact if we had a healer back then.
10:12:29 <Mort-> :d
10:12:55 <matt> so, what happened? was it out of game, or during a game?
10:12:57 <Mort-> Things start looking really great when none of you can actually use the clw wand
10:13:04 <Mort-> That everyone buys
10:13:20 <matt> I have a4 :P
10:13:21 <Mort-> A slight exaggeration
10:13:31 <Mort-> I didn't have umd back then
10:13:33 <Mort-> Level 1
10:13:36 <matt> right
10:13:48 <matt> I had to use a trait
10:13:57 <Mort-> No ranks
10:14:10 <Mort-> I figured since i dumped cha
10:14:16 <Mort-> So dump umd as well
10:14:27 <matt> makes sense
10:14:41 <Mort-> So anyway. We went down a bridge. Me and another guy
10:14:45 <Mort-> Guess what?
10:14:59 <matt> hmmm,,,collapsed?
10:15:04 <Mort-> Trapped
10:15:14 <Mort-> I nearly died on that trap.
10:15:27 <Mort-> They had to use potions to bring me back
10:15:51 <Mort-> And that other guy was in trouble too...
10:15:58 <Mort-> Got no pot?
10:16:01 <Mort-> How?
10:16:13 <Mort-> Start selling your soul for heals :(
10:16:27 <matt> haha, really?
10:16:44 <Mort-> First time i used infernal healing ^^
10:17:19 <matt> so, that started yuo down the path
10:17:42 <Mort-> According to some on lookers down there..i was actually at -12 at one point of time...
10:17:46 <Mort-> Took 2 pots
10:17:52 * Mort- shudders
10:17:57 <matt> ouch
10:18:10 <Mort-> Khaz has an extremely interesting career.
10:18:27 <Mort-> It involves a lot of dirtnaps
10:18:38 <matt> lol
10:19:06 <matt> ya, everyone seemed to be picking on you
10:19:10 <Mort-> It usually has to do with running around without a healer
10:19:27 <Mort-> And being a tad reckless :p
10:19:30 <matt> ya, like I said, if I play often maybe I shoudl make a cleric
10:19:33 <Mort-> Devil may care attitude
10:19:35 <Mort-> Np
10:19:41 <Mort-> Now his hand is on me
10:19:50 <Mort-> I don't really mind that much
10:19:59 <Mort-> That's what the imp is for anyway
10:20:06 <Mort-> Umd wands :p
10:20:11 <matt> if can uUMD?
10:20:13 <matt> nice
10:20:21 <matt> we can give them all it it
10:20:26 <Mort-> Lol
10:20:29 <matt> err..to it
10:20:29 <Mort-> 7
10:20:38 <matt> still, beter then mine
10:20:41 <Mort-> His name is balaar btw :)
10:20:47 <Mort-> At level 7
10:20:52 <matt> fk, I really need to strart touchtyping
10:20:54 <Mort-> Then i can get the imp
10:21:01 <matt> this is annouying
10:21:35 <matt> I kind of am touch tying nowm iots just really slow
10:21:52 <Mort-> The scenario before this was bad
10:22:05 <Mort-> Called on him 5 times :(
10:22:22 <Mort-> No one actually brought a wand of clw
10:22:38 <Mort-> And actually if you don't mind it...he is really efficient
10:22:44 <Mort-> 10 hp. Guaranteed
10:22:47 <matt> lol, how does it work?
10:22:53 <Mort-> No more rolling dice
10:23:10 <Mort-> 1 hp regen per round for 10 rounds
10:23:19 <Mort-> Won't do you much good in combat
10:23:24 <Mort-> Its out of bombardment
10:23:27 <Mort-> Combat heal
10:23:43 <matt> still, you most likly wont die....
10:24:19 <Mort-> Me?
10:24:29 <matt> ya, if you are regenning
10:24:39 <Mort-> No time to cast in combat
10:24:39 <matt> you wont blead out
10:24:45 <Mort-> There is never enough time
10:24:53 <Mort-> Once your on the floor its cdg
10:25:05 <Mort-> Coup de grace
10:25:22 <matt> ya, but most baddies dont cdg
10:25:54 <matt> but depends on the modual and the gm
10:26:01 <Mort-> That doesn't stop them from mangling you while your down there
10:26:08 <Mort-> Mek tells nice stories
10:26:10 <Mort-> Really
10:26:14 <matt> ya
10:26:29 <matt> I thought he did a great job last night
10:26:33 <Mort-> Your lucky
10:26:38 <Mort-> Yeah he does
10:26:51 <matt> lucky?
10:26:57 <Mort-> Yes :d
10:27:01 <matt> how do you mean?
10:27:10 <Mort-> He tells the nicest stories!
10:27:34 <matt> ya, true. sucks you're not going to be in the one next weekend
10:27:39 <Mort-> I mean last time i thought that dnd was supposed to have a time slot
10:27:47 <Mort-> And finish on time etc.
10:28:11 <Mort-> Then one day a guy named darkwhite came in
10:28:48 <Mort-> He said. Why are you worrying about time schedules when your playing from home?
10:29:06 <Mort-> I had a relavation that day.
10:29:26 <Mort-> The fun is in the journey. Not the destination.
10:29:40 <matt> haha, true
10:30:42 <Mort-> So now i don't really care how long it takes
10:30:55 <Mort-> I can't be because it was my first scenario
10:31:01 <Mort-> That i ever played
10:31:11 <Mort-> I fked up royally
10:32:05 <matt> I don't mind the time either, but it's crazy late for me, but I'm not in a rush,
10:32:25 <matt> also it was nice because you did like 70% or more of the typing :P
10:32:30 <Mort-> Mek runs intelligent monsters though
10:32:47 <matt> they flank.....very nice
10:32:49 <Mort-> So don't do stupid things
10:33:05 <Mort-> There is a famous saying
10:33:18 <Mort-> If the enemy is in range. So are you.
10:33:29 <Ballig> ranges differ
10:33:30 <Mort-> Khaz likes bossing people around
10:33:32 <matt> ya, I try not too....I'm farily conservitive in batter, I know my job is to protech the squish players
10:33:36 <Mort-> Well yeah
10:33:56 <matt> err..battle
10:34:07 <Mort-> The player in question is a noisy fk too
10:34:14 <matt> haha, ya
10:34:16 <Mort-> So that's one thing :p
10:34:42 <Mort-> I can't keep my big trap shut!
10:35:27 <matt> it's fine.....you know I find in irc, it must be more difficult for the gm too, keeping track of who is doing wwhat
10:37:20 <Mort-> And no. He wouldn't share a room with a halfling
10:37:22 <Mort-> Really.
10:37:42 <Mort-> I have set up flanks before
10:37:48 <Mort-> Trying to learn how to better
10:38:07 <matt> it's mostly timing and working together alot.
10:38:35 <matt> if we play together often we can get very good at it
10:38:39 <Mort-> Not enough people and anyway no rogues
10:38:49 <Mort-> I think I'm fairly decent
10:38:55 <Mort-> So i didn't really bother
10:39:25 <matt> My other is a ninja, I might be busting that out at one point
10:39:51 <matt> but the +2 is kind of a big deal, more so at lower levels
10:42:05 <Mort-> I can set up flanks for you
10:42:11 <Mort-> 30 move speed
10:42:18 <matt> me too :D
10:42:19 <Mort-> But prepare to acro some
10:42:48 <matt> I'm kind of good, +7 with my armor atm....
10:43:07 <matt> I think I'll be getting MW chain shirt ...mats it +8
10:43:10 <matt> makes
10:44:18 <Mort-> Master work
10:44:24 <Mort-> Does not increase ac
10:44:31 <Mort-> Just reduces acp
10:44:52 <matt> ya, I mean, my check drops to -1
10:45:06 <matt> so gives me an effective +8 to acro
10:45:32 <matt> my skill is +9....armour is reducing it a bit atm
10:45:51 <matt> er...my acro skill check is +9
10:46:31 <Mort-> Yeah
10:46:50 <Mort-> I don't have any acro
10:46:51 <Mort-> Lol
10:47:05 <matt> hahah, leave that to mean then...lol
10:47:34 <matt> so do you think Prissa is effective? Or shoudl I use my 1/2orc ninja?
10:47:40 <Mort-> Cbfked. If we get a big dumb pally with a sword in full plate
10:47:49 <Mort-> Shes cool
10:47:54 <Mort-> Ill happily hide behind him
10:48:04 <Mort-> That's what pallies are for anyway
10:48:05 <matt> she seems to have an issue with golblins though...lol
10:48:11 <matt> ya, lol
10:48:20 <Mort-> Actually goblins they aren't that bad
10:48:26 <Mort-> I've been one
10:48:30 <Mort-> Was great
10:48:44 <matt> lol, ya, they are fun, and misunderstood. lol
10:51:57 <matt> I wish I ciould get this stupid irc client to work on my ipad, I can then chat from bed
10:52:03 <Mekkis> Mort-, what have gnomes done to you that makes you think they're evil?
10:54:17 <Mort-> They are evil!
10:54:34 <Mort-> Mnorpgs say so
10:54:43 <Mekkis> this is Pathfinder
10:54:47 <Mekkis> don't crossmetagame
11:03:18 <Mort-> Rowlings said so!
11:03:24 <Mort-> I'm cycling lol
11:03:44 <Mekkis> She doesn't know shit
11:03:54 <Mort-> Can't make a ride check while cycling and irc at same time :p
11:04:15 <Mekkis> don't worry: riding doesn't require checks, unless someone's shooting you
11:04:16 <matt> HAHA,,,chating and cycling?
11:06:04 <Mort-> I can't
11:06:16 <Mort-> Ill definitely fall off
11:06:23 <Mort-> Bike is one size too large for
11:06:27 <Mort-> 1
11:06:44 <Mort-> Secondly i just picked up the one handed cycling feat.
11:07:12 <Mort-> Unlike some of my friends i don't have no hands on bars cycling feat.
11:07:29 <matt> lol, you txting from your phone>?
11:07:38 <Mort-> I always am
11:07:40 <Mort-> :d
11:07:57 <Mort-> I'm walking to the shops now after parking bike
11:08:00 <matt> ahh...tell me your settings later, I cant get my irc to connect correctly.
11:08:06 <Mort-> I can talk freely while i do it :p
11:08:14 <Mort-> What phone
11:08:23 <Mort-> I have a droid here
11:08:42 <matt> I have an iphone,. I have an irc client but I cant connect to the site, what are you using for an addy?
11:08:55 <Mort-> Android andchat
11:09:05 <Mort-> I don't know any other system
11:09:07 <Mort-> I'm sorry
11:09:26 <matt> I mean ...what address are you connecting too.
11:10:06 <Mort-> au.austnet.org
11:10:10 <Mort-> Port 6667
11:10:32 <matt> let me try again
11:10:34 <matt> thanks
11:12:37 <Mort-> Np
11:13:44 <Mort-> Anyway gnomes keep messing with other peoples business
11:13:58 <Mort-> And get into trouble
11:15:05 <Mort-> Stoopid gnomes!
11:16:56 <Mort-> I wanted to start a gnome punting club here :(
11:17:14 <Mort-> But i kept being turned into kebabs :(
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11:24:48 <Mekkis> no gnomes are evil
11:25:04 <Mekkis> gnomes are intelligent, charismatic, and helpful
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11:33:26 <Mort-> Gnomes are stoopid :p
11:36:10 <Mort-> We found one about to be burnt alive in his own garden
11:36:24 <Mort-> For not minding his own business
11:36:59 <Mort-> And there was one trying to fly on a hang glider ><
11:37:35 <Mort-> Though if mort was there she would be asking to be taken for a ride as well :p
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11:45:02 <Mekkis> http://gnomecon.org/
11:48:00 <Mort-> Gnomes
11:48:36 <Mort-> They suck :d
11:54:07 * Mort- nose wrinkles as in having a bad smell
12:12:03 <Mekkis> Lance-Corporal Grolschmir dislikes discrimination
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12:16:39 <Hydrazine> Unless its against the blind?
12:16:47 <Mort-> He won't get it
12:16:48 <Hydrazine> Er. deaf?
12:17:04 <matt> so, we playing tonight :P
12:17:14 <Mort-> I told you my characters have no problems with gnomes
12:17:21 <Mort-> Lol no one around :p
12:17:24 <Mort-> As in no gm
12:17:40 <Mort-> Its the player that does.
12:17:41 <matt> ya, i know. not really serious...
12:17:58 <Mort-> Has anyone known me to be rude to a gnome?
12:18:19 <Mort-> Have any of my characters snubed off a gnome?
12:19:37 <Mort-> Lance corporal grolsh also has a big ego for a small fluffhead
12:20:33 <Hydrazine> Is there a game tonight?
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12:20:54 <matt> nope
12:20:56 <matt> :(\
12:21:12 <Mort-> They cancelled it because not enough people signed up
12:21:32 <Mort-> My brother finished d3 on 3 different characters
12:22:45 <Mort-> Ok now I'm like
12:22:49 <Mort-> Familiar now?
12:22:50 <Mort-> Hm
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12:22:58 <Mort-> Or wait
12:23:04 <Mort-> I leveled
12:23:26 <Mort-> Btw next time you bring jerus i can get khaz to tag along
12:23:32 <Mort-> He is big enough now
12:23:48 <Mort-> Though i don't think ill actually see much action.
12:23:55 <Mort-> I can't glitterdust :(
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12:36:24 <matt> Hey
12:36:51 <matt> Got my irc working on my iPad
12:38:15 <matt> Hey mort. U still shopping?
12:46:39 <Mort-> I'm home :d
12:46:43 <Mort-> But still on cell
12:46:46 <Mort-> Argh
12:47:02 <Mort-> Should i start taking my familiar now?
12:47:16 Mort- is now known as Khazaran
12:47:23 <Khazaran> @sc
12:47:24 <diebot> Khazaran, slash: [1d20=9] 13; damage: [1d6=4] 9; conc: [1d20=20] 31
12:47:36 <Khazaran> @sc2
12:47:37 <diebot> Khazaran, slash: [1d20=7] 12; damage: [1d6=6] 11; frost damage: [1d3=3] 3; conc: [1d20=20] 33; slash: [1d20=12] 17; damage: [1d6=1] 6; frost damage: [1d3=1] 1
12:47:58 <Khazaran> Can do that now
12:48:05 Khazaran is now known as mort-
12:50:01 <matt> Did u buy anything
12:50:59 <mort-> No
12:51:01 <mort-> :d
12:51:13 <mort-> Saving for my +1 weapon
12:51:14 <matt> How does that work?
12:51:20 <matt> Haha
12:51:29 <mort-> Close range magus arcana
12:51:52 <matt> I don't know what I should get next
12:51:54 <mort-> Say before the fight i am holding a charge
12:51:59 <mort-> Neither do i
12:52:09 <mort-> Well i have plans
12:52:23 <mort-> I want a familiar. But how much in a hurry do i want it
12:53:06 <matt> I was thinking maybe a mitheral brearst plate
12:53:32 <mort-> Works for you
12:53:39 <matt> Doesn't the failure help more at lower levels
12:54:04 <matt> Spell check. Grrrrr
12:54:05 <mort-> Failure what?
12:54:10 <matt> Familure
12:54:31 <mort-> I have no spell check failure as long as i wear my chain shirt
12:54:32 <mort-> Anyway
12:54:34 <mort-> :d
12:54:50 <mort-> Told you I'm half wizard half fighter
12:54:52 <mort-> Lol
12:55:16 <matt> iPhone does this dumb predictive spell thing. It's annoying
12:55:26 <mort-> Its whether i can make those defensive casting checks
12:55:41 <matt> Um. Actually you didn't but kind of guessed
12:56:04 <mort-> Most of the time i can
12:56:15 <mort-> +11 for conc.
12:56:18 <mort-> Dc is 15
12:56:25 <matt> So u add elemental damage
12:56:44 <mort-> Well now i leveled up for my spell ill get +13 conc
12:56:49 <mort-> To beat a 15 check
12:57:01 <mort-> Now its like can i hit straight or not :p
12:57:04 <matt> Nice
12:57:14 <mort-> Ill make my check
12:57:18 <mort-> Be sure of it.
12:57:24 <matt> I'll setup the flank for u
12:57:30 <mort-> Its whether i hit the broad side of the barn later
12:57:35 <mort-> :d
12:57:51 <mort-> I probably won't 2 hand swing my weapon any more
12:58:34 <matt> What's your attack +. And why not 2handed
12:59:03 <mort-> Usually?
12:59:08 <mort-> +7
12:59:28 <mort-> +5 if i try to fake twf in one round.
12:59:35 <mort-> Using elemental damage :p
13:00:19 <matt> I'm the same ish. +5
13:00:33 <mort-> Your level 2
13:00:37 <mort-> Yours will improve
13:00:46 <matt> True
13:00:49 <mort-> And yes i can consider pa as well.
13:00:56 <mort-> Mine wont. Not by that much
13:01:03 <mort-> I told you I'm half wizard.
13:01:13 <matt> What size are u? Med?
13:01:19 <mort-> Yes
13:01:41 <mort-> With wizzies horrible armor class as well in part. Nah i kid.
13:01:43 <matt> Human?
13:01:46 <mort-> Yeah
13:02:06 <mort-> Actually i can get my ac up to 21...
13:02:20 <mort-> Most of the time just don't bother
13:02:21 <matt> U do do a lot of damage when u hit
13:02:26 <mort-> There never is enough time
13:02:35 <mort-> Its 18 str ><
13:02:41 <matt> Mage armour?
13:02:43 <mort-> Lolz
13:02:46 <mort-> Shield
13:02:51 <mort-> Short term spell
13:02:57 <mort-> Need to refresh every fight
13:03:09 <mort-> Mage armour and chain shirts don't stack
13:03:15 <matt> Ah It always takes time to buff
13:03:21 <mort-> Not reacaw
13:03:23 <mort-> Really
13:03:35 <mort-> I can do it faster then most
13:04:01 <matt> Shield is firs
13:04:14 <mort-> First round of combat if he starts next to me
13:04:21 <matt> Hmm. Maybe I should get a want of shield
13:04:33 <matt> Wand
13:04:34 <mort-> Spell combat. Hit him. 5 ft step back
13:04:35 <mort-> Shield.
13:04:41 <mort-> It won't do you any good
13:04:49 <mort-> Your umd is too unreliable
13:05:05 <matt> True.
13:05:20 <mort-> I've tried to make umd checks with a +12 mod
13:05:23 <matt> Pots then
13:05:25 <mort-> And i can still fail
13:05:49 <matt> Pricey though
13:06:16 <mort-> Screw armor
13:06:19 <mort-> Charge!
13:06:25 <matt> Hahaha. Ya
13:06:28 <mort-> Now you know why i get into trouble?
13:06:39 <matt> Raging power attack
13:06:45 <mort-> Na
13:06:53 <mort-> But there is another way to play it
13:07:06 <mort-> Again well lets just say as a caster
13:07:28 <mort-> You're vulnerable to running out of resources
13:07:44 <matt> I do need someone to fight with.
13:07:59 <matt> By myself doesn't work wel
13:08:12 <mort-> You don't know how long your work day is
13:08:34 <mort-> I suppose i should have used more magic in that scenario
13:08:41 <mort-> But i didn't want to run out of it
13:08:54 <mort-> Didn't even touch my other side
13:08:55 <matt> Ya. Spell conservation is tough. I normally play a wizard
13:09:07 <mort-> I am a wizard.
13:09:17 <mort-> Glitterdust specialist
13:09:21 <mort-> Literally
13:09:45 <mort-> I specialize in catching as many monsters as possible with glitter dust
13:09:48 <matt> I'll try to keep out of the spell area. Lol
13:10:05 <mort-> Don't worry. I won't hit you. I have uncanny aim
13:10:10 <mort-> Ask avatar :p
13:10:39 <matt> Lol.
13:11:08 <mort-> As in really like i sort of see glitterdust squares
13:11:16 <mort-> I also can see colour spray squares
13:12:08 <matt> I'm always playing a transmuter. A buff monkey for the fighters
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13:12:27 <mort-> I am a buff monkey
13:12:44 <mort-> Ah my doppelanger has arrived
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13:12:53 <matt> Enlarge and bull star. Rinse and repeat. Lol
13:13:56 <Mort> No no no no..
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13:14:34 <matt> Ok zzzzzz. Time. Message me if u get bored.
13:15:14 * Mort- makes a giggly noise
13:15:22 <Mort-> k time to get to other stufs
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15:15:16 <Tashes> Mort and Maaaatt sitting in a treee...
15:16:26 * Mort- starts slapping tashes silly
15:16:35 <Mort-> Wow it rhymes!
15:17:08 * Mort- is proud of herself :)
15:17:25 * Tashes claps Mort
15:18:14 * Mort- feels sorry for slapping tashes
15:18:32 <Mort-> again i know the next phase of the rhyme so maybe not
15:19:46 <Tashes> lol
15:19:49 <Tashes> no bashing tashes!
15:20:19 <Mort-> :)
15:32:47 <Mort-> Tashes!
15:32:56 <Mort-> You need to find mekkis!
15:33:16 <Mort-> He is running city of strangers 1 somewhere in auzzie land!
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15:47:32 <Mekkis> yeah
15:47:37 <Mekkis> on Wednesday!
15:49:22 <Mort-> Hi mek arent you running stuff today?
15:49:40 <Mort-> In auzzie land?
15:50:06 <Hydrazine> yo
15:50:33 <Mort-> Hi hydra!
15:50:41 * Mort- bounces up and down!
15:51:04 <Hydrazine> bouncy mort is bouncy.
15:51:55 <Mort-> I made spha - get - ti!
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15:55:58 <Hydrazine> basketti.
15:56:09 <Mort-> whats that?
15:56:12 * Mort- is curious
15:56:18 * Mort- sniffs Hydrazine over
15:56:45 <Mort-> acutally hydra..
15:56:50 <Mort-> its the problematic levle up time for me
15:56:52 <Mort-> :D
15:59:19 <Tashes> But Mort!
15:59:24 <Tashes> i'm on the other side of the country to Mekkis!
15:59:27 <Mort-> So?
15:59:28 <Tashes> For like, a month!
15:59:32 <Mort-> Im on the other side of the ocean!
15:59:39 <Tashes> its probably cheaper for you to get there than it is for me!
15:59:40 <Mort-> okay I know little about distances tashes.
15:59:41 <Mort-> how far is it?
15:59:42 <Mort-> really?
15:59:52 <Mort-> maybe you could do a round auzzie tour
15:59:55 <Mort-> and say hi to mekkis
16:00:00 <Mort-> check him for horns, claws and tail.
16:00:34 <Tashes> hah.
16:00:46 <Tashes> its only $100 more round trip for singapore-bris than it is adel-bris
16:00:58 <Mort-> Oh.
16:01:02 <Mort-> sorry haha
16:01:09 <Mort-> my country is 42 km from one end to the other..
16:01:11 <Mort-> or so. :p
16:01:16 <Mort-> so distances dont make sense to me
16:01:27 <Tashes> australia is the same physical size as the USA
16:02:03 <Mort-> cant be?
16:02:05 <Mort-> USA is BIGGER
16:02:12 <Tashes> -bigger + fatter
16:02:25 <Tashes> its 1700km from me to mekkis!
16:03:08 <Hydrazine> lol.
16:03:10 <Hydrazine> hi tashes.
16:03:12 <Hydrazine> Where is you?
16:03:15 <Tashes> hi hydra!
16:03:20 <Mort-> Tashes has been teasing me
16:03:23 * Mort- growls
16:03:26 <Tashes> eating egg salad sammich!
16:03:30 <Mort-> she started the one about me and matt sitting in a tree..
16:03:34 <Mort-> I slapped her silly after that :P
16:03:38 <Mort-> I dont want the rest of the rhyme
16:03:45 <Tashes> But doesnt change the fact that matt was hitting on her
16:04:18 <Mort-> oh JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION
16:04:21 <Mort-> Matt has a wife in RL
16:04:28 <Mort-> and we were just talking SHOP
16:04:29 <Tashes> so?
16:04:30 <Tashes> :p
16:04:32 <Mort-> he also has 2 cats!
16:04:37 <Mort-> one is black and white, and the other is white!
16:04:40 * Mort- meows
16:04:46 <Tashes> :o
16:04:50 * Tashes barks
16:05:38 * Mort- runs up a tree
16:06:21 <Hydrazine> None of this has any relevance on you two flirting like a couple high school kids in a made for tv movie.
16:07:17 <Mort-> whoo>
16:07:19 <Mort-> Shes not my type!
16:07:29 * Mort- growls at tashes. She chased me up the tree!
16:07:30 <Tashes> Matt's not a girl!
16:08:01 * Mort- is now puzzled
16:08:25 <Hydrazine> HUGIFY!
16:09:07 * Mort- is more puzzled
16:10:08 <Tashes> "i'll hugify your horseman!"
16:10:25 <Mort-> Uhh..?
16:10:29 <Mort-> which movie that came from
16:10:38 <Hydrazine> It didn't.
16:10:57 <Tashes> haha we're playing LoL Mort
16:11:41 <Mort-> ohh
16:11:42 <Mort-> k
16:11:47 <Mort-> my bro is playing d3
16:11:51 <Mort-> Im trying to see how to level up
16:12:28 <Mort-> wizard looks fun..
16:12:35 <Mort-> but bro is hogging the only comp
16:16:34 <Hydrazine> i only tried monk and witch doc.
16:16:47 <Mort-> hes tried with demon hunter, monk, witch doc
16:16:52 <Mort-> he has a barb and a wizard next..
16:17:07 <Mort-> he had to kite the final boss as a demon hunter cos his tank died..
16:17:12 <Mort-> I tell you..tanks never live long..
16:17:18 <Mort-> Im playing a wizard in d3 thank you very much :P
16:17:29 * Mort- starts counting the times shes been taking dirt naps as a melee type
16:17:35 <Mort-> AND MY AC ISNT BAD..
16:17:40 <Mort-> at least not at this level..
16:19:14 <Hydrazine> how many?
16:19:18 <Hydrazine> yeah, its just hp.
16:19:49 * Mort- counts...1,2..3..
16:19:53 <Mort-> almost every scenario :P
16:20:15 <Hydrazine> think about the fact that damage output in melee doesn't really move much between 1-3.
16:20:34 <Hydrazine> while hp does.
16:20:43 <Mort-> 6..scnearios, 2 dm creds...
16:20:53 <Mort-> right. its 3/4 scenarios I do take a dirt nap..
16:21:07 <Mort-> ah well. better me then others I guess..
16:23:49 <Mort-> I may never get heavy armor..
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16:33:44 <Khazaran> IDENTIFY
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17:33:28 <Steven> ladies
17:33:31 <Steven> gentlemen
17:33:41 <Steven> I have completed Year of the Shadow Lodge
17:33:47 <Steven> or as i like to call it
17:34:02 <Steven> How to make a GM cry
17:34:08 <Mekkis> what tier?
17:34:13 <Mekkis> or were you running it?
17:34:31 <Steven> 10-11
17:34:39 <Mort-> Highest level probably
17:34:41 <Steven> and i was playing Ausk
17:34:41 <Mekkis> I can see that happening
17:34:50 <Mort-> You abused monsters
17:34:52 <Mekkis> how many tables?
17:34:57 <Steven> 5 tables
17:35:02 <Mekkis> nice
17:35:07 <Mekkis> most of this channel hasn't played it
17:35:11 <Steven> but the guy running it was the VC of Washington
17:35:23 <Mekkis> you mean the state?
17:35:23 <Steven> dont worry i wont give spoilers, not that it would help
17:35:28 <Mort-> I have no idea how to even do a special!
17:35:29 <Steven> yes of the state
17:35:33 <Mort-> I am nervous!
17:35:41 <Mort-> Specials make me nervous!
17:35:45 <Mekkis> I managed to bluff 4 DMs that my illusion was real :)
17:35:49 <Mekkis> when I played it!
17:35:52 <Mort-> Is ausk wearing medium or heavy armor
17:35:54 <Mort-> Lol
17:36:03 <Mort-> Bluff. Not my type
17:36:06 <Steven> Ausk is wearing Medium armor
17:36:19 <Steven> Mithril Chainmail of Comfort +3
17:36:26 <Mort-> Lol
17:36:29 <Mekkis> we had someone on the high table cast Antimagic field at the end
17:36:33 <Mekkis> THAT was annoying
17:36:41 <Mort-> I can imagine
17:36:57 <Mort-> I think a special on irc would be confusing
17:36:59 <Mekkis> "you 30 players, recalculate your characters with no magic!"
17:37:00 <Mort-> Now.
17:37:02 <Steven> yeah, the VC of the state came down to run it with 5 of his friends
17:37:05 <Mort-> Lol
17:37:46 <Steven> he got permission to change it a little
17:37:59 <Steven> so they gave him an inch and he took a mile, and i read the scenario afterwords
17:38:08 <Steven> and the way we ran it was much much much much much much funner
17:38:18 <Mort-> What the hell :p
17:38:35 <Steven> mekkis, im going to send you a private message w/ how it was changed
17:38:44 <Mekkis> sure...
17:42:09 <Tashes> Mekkis never responds to pms
17:42:18 <Mekkis> yes I do
17:47:09 <Steven> he just did tashes
17:47:16 <Tashes> d:
17:47:26 <Steven> must like me more then you!
17:47:51 <Mekkis> * an unspecified delay might be in order
17:48:51 * Mort- ruffles the mekkis
17:49:04 <Mekkis> oh no
17:49:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, are you running anything on Wednesday?
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17:49:21 <Mort-> Ok my brother has officially completed d3 on all classes except barb
17:49:27 <Mekkis> d3?
17:49:27 <Mort-> Hi oster
17:49:40 <Mort-> Diablo3
17:49:42 <Mort-> Beta
17:49:48 <Mort-> I'm going to play a wizard
17:49:57 <Mort-> Its a time honored tradition
17:50:02 <Mekkis> 3.36.3+36.3336.336+66396636336363336.02580.258.0250.25.25.
17:50:16 <Mekkis> I'm going to ignore it and instead play nethack
17:50:24 <Mort-> Gibberish
17:50:25 <Mekkis> in a time honoured tradition
17:50:31 <Mort-> Lol
17:50:32 <Mekkis> Mort-, you should play nethack!
17:50:44 <Mort-> No idea how to start
17:50:52 <Mekkis> you have putty, right?
17:50:56 * Mort- is a blurr
17:51:09 <Mekkis> use it to telnet to nethack.alt.org
17:51:11 <Mort-> Urm i think you gave it to me sometime back
17:51:14 <Mekkis> yeah
17:51:17 <Mort-> Do you adventure alone?
17:51:23 <Mekkis> sort of
17:51:24 <Mort-> Maybe in the futp
17:51:31 <Mort-> No one aroudd?
17:51:37 <Mort-> Then where is the fun :(
17:51:51 <Mort-> I'm supposed to prepare a speech for tomorrow
17:51:56 <Mekkis> you meet other unfortunate nethacker's corpses!
17:52:05 <Mort-> That's disgusting
17:52:12 <Mort-> I think ill skip the pleasure
17:52:21 <Mort-> Unless i get to rez
17:52:25 <Mekkis> you can watch other players
17:52:31 <Mekkis> hell, you can watch ME
17:52:33 <Mekkis> and send me mail!
17:52:40 <Mort-> I want to jump up and down on them!
17:52:48 <Mort-> I can't go into a dungeon alone.
17:52:57 <Mort-> Ill be scawed :(
17:54:10 * Mort- ruffles osterguard randomly
17:54:39 <Mort-> I'm actually feeling a little sleepy
17:54:49 <Mort-> Morning cycles do that to you
17:57:00 <Steven> alright, sam wants me to come pick her up
17:57:04 <Steven> ill see you guys in a bit.
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18:29:42 <Steven> Epico!
18:29:45 <Steven> so...
18:29:54 <Steven> whats the best part about going to pick up your girlfriend
18:29:59 <Steven> after shes had a great day at work
18:32:00 <Avatar> bringing her in here for some sweet PFS
18:36:42 <Mekkis> Avatar, are you running anything on Wednesday?
18:36:52 <Avatar> is it anzac day already
18:37:03 <Mekkis> ja
18:37:10 <Avatar> I didn't plan to
18:37:24 <Avatar> take it if you want it
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18:42:09 <Mort-> Oh?
18:42:13 <Mort-> I can't play!
18:42:19 * Mort- wails loudly
18:42:40 <Mort-> Why does auzzie land have so many holidays i don't :(
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18:51:14 <Avatar> Mekkis: do you want it
18:52:11 <Ballig> Steven: you haven't played Shades of Ice 1?
18:52:35 <Steven> sorry, she wanted a little attention.
18:52:49 <Avatar> man we don't want to know
18:53:14 <Steven> dude, she wanted to talk
18:53:17 <Steven> attention
18:53:21 <Avatar> haha
18:53:23 <Steven> not sex...
18:53:25 <Steven> get your mind out of gutter
18:53:26 <Avatar> sorry, you are the king of tmi
18:53:29 <Avatar> is it hard to tell the difference
18:53:30 <Ballig> you worded it like you wanted us to think it was sex
18:53:57 <Steven> no, if it was sex, i would have just been like, hey sorry, gotta go make her praise jesus
18:54:05 <Avatar> see what I mean
18:54:27 <Steven> and no ive never played shades of ice part 1
18:54:47 <Ballig> I'm running it next sunday
18:55:01 <Steven> hmmm
18:55:03 <Steven> dunno
18:55:12 <Steven> we'll see
18:55:54 <Steven> let me ask sam she wanted something
18:56:00 <Steven> on sat
18:56:11 * Mort- feels like appearing next Sunday :d
19:02:23 <Steven> she only has me reserved between the hours
19:02:34 <Steven> 1pm and 6pm
19:02:54 <Mort-> Your bringing ronal then?
19:03:00 <Steven> who knows
19:03:06 <Mort-> 1-5...
19:03:10 <Steven> I are has another level 1
19:03:26 <Mort-> Ah k
19:03:29 <Mort-> I have 2
19:03:41 <Mort-> But will probably use them for fs stuff
19:03:56 <Mort-> I want to bring khaz along
19:04:24 <Steven> but yeah probably ronal
19:04:44 <Mort-> Not that lout again :p
19:04:47 <Mort-> Lol
19:04:52 <Mort-> More crap
19:05:03 Steven is now known as Ronal
19:05:07 <Mort-> And no healer. Its ok. We have the stick
19:05:12 <Mort-> I guess
19:05:16 <Ronal> You got something to say bout me!
19:05:21 <Ronal> Say it to my face!
19:05:34 <Mort-> Quite a bit.
19:05:39 * Ronal farts on Mort-.
19:05:40 <Mort-> Lol
19:05:55 <Mort-> Uh you really should mind your manners
19:06:14 Ronal is now known as Steven
19:06:19 <Mort-> Farting in peoples faces is really rude
19:06:41 <Steven> you were messing with an uncouth barbarian
19:06:50 <Steven> and a gnome one at that
19:07:13 <Steven> what did you expect to happen
19:08:04 <Mort-> Most of my characters have good manners
19:08:07 <Mort-> One doesn't
19:08:36 <Mort-> Do i need to bring cold weather gear
19:08:44 <Mort-> Btw steven
19:08:46 <Steven> Also! Ausk is now Admiral Stormbrow!
19:08:55 <Mort-> Did anyone in city of strangers
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19:09:05 <Mort-> Actually fight with those guys who bag you?
19:09:08 <Mort-> Lol
19:09:16 <Mort-> I don't think that would work well
19:09:16 <Steven> nope
19:10:13 <Mort-> As in no one fought?
19:10:23 <Mort-> Do they have stats listed?
19:10:57 <Mort-> Or should people fight have to come up with stats?
19:11:24 <Steven> nobody was dumb enough to attack the guards of the person who runs the city of strangers
19:11:39 <Steven> expecially when we needed favors from them
19:11:57 <Mort-> Ahaha
19:12:28 <Mort-> I did wonder what would happen
19:12:54 <Mort-> But a fight with 6 guys with cudgels and a mage isn't going to end well probably
19:13:22 <Steven> we had a guy for his faction mission piss on the seperating screen
19:13:37 <Steven> and then he got beat within an inch of his life
19:14:24 <Mort-> What piss on the seperating screen
19:14:26 <Steven> and everyone in the group was like... yeah... he's an idiot, let us continue with the negotiations.
19:14:32 <Mort-> Lol
19:14:52 <Steven> it was a faction mission
19:15:04 <Mort-> There is no way you can fight 6 humans at one go i think
19:15:10 <Mort-> Not on a level 2 party
19:15:13 <Steven> ausk has done it
19:15:44 <Steven> fought 7 level 4 creatures when he was level 8
19:15:44 <Mort-> I'm not ausk
19:15:59 <Mort-> At level 2?
19:16:01 <Steven> Blistering invective soooooo good against mass creatures
19:16:33 <Mort-> Possibly. Have to get lucky with colour spray
19:16:41 <Mort-> And hope stuff is in range
19:17:12 <Mort-> If shades of ice is done in t 4-5 ill dump colour spray and load mass shocking grasp
19:17:19 <Steven> blistering invective is intimidate against everyone in 30ft, air catches on fire from the anger for 1d10 damage if you succeed on intimidate check
19:17:24 <Mort-> Then zap whatever i can get into range
19:17:25 <Mort-> Lol
19:17:37 <Steven> and if they fail their reflex
19:17:48 <Steven> for the fire damage, they catch on fire for an addition 1d6
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19:19:01 <Mort-> Inquisitor has a lot of funny stuff
19:19:02 <Mort-> Really
19:19:10 <Steven> yeah
19:19:34 <Mort-> The one about confessing your sins
19:19:38 <Mort-> Priceless
19:19:46 <Steven> inquisitors are the bastard child of everything kick ass
19:19:49 <Mort-> This one is a joke too
19:20:13 <Mort-> Really a joke
19:20:23 <Mort-> Actually i can quite imagine ausk doing it
19:20:28 <Mort-> Funny as heck
19:21:08 <Brunius> sup guyz
19:21:14 <Mort-> Hello
19:21:27 * Mort- slinks off into a corner
19:21:34 <Steven> sup
19:21:54 <Brunius> just got back from playing 3EX - The Cyphermage Dilemma
19:22:13 <Steven> the problem with ausk is the dc vs his offensive spells is so low
19:22:18 <Brunius> Pretty nice scenario
19:23:34 <Steven> he only has 2 wisdom
19:23:45 <Steven> 12+spell level
19:24:08 <Mort-> Cool :d
19:24:09 <Mort-> Lol
19:24:33 <Mort-> I think don't put khaz and bairaq in the same room
19:24:41 <Mort-> Weird things would happen :p
19:24:47 <Avatar> you say that about everyone
19:24:51 <Mort-> Nah
19:24:52 <Avatar> everyone and your characters
19:25:01 <Mort-> Most people are fine
19:25:04 <Avatar> Brunius: did you only just finish an hour ago
19:25:10 <Steven> so, he doesnt cast spells that target people
19:25:11 <Mort-> But pallies :p
19:25:21 <Mort-> Target the air
19:25:22 <Mort-> Lol
19:25:36 <Mort-> Or things that have no save
19:28:44 <Steven> yeah, ausk mainly carries buffing spells
19:28:49 <Steven> that buff his damage
19:29:06 <Brunius> Avatar: Finished about 6
19:29:13 <Brunius> Missed the next train out
19:29:19 <Brunius> Train was delayed
19:29:24 <Avatar> yuck
19:29:28 <Avatar> do you train it in
19:29:38 <Brunius> Had to switch at upper ferntree gully because the train was broken
19:29:40 <Brunius> yeah
19:29:52 <Avatar> something is going on in the city
19:29:55 <Avatar> roadworks everywhere
19:30:04 <Avatar> city is divided in half traffic wise
19:30:07 <Avatar> v.annoying
19:30:40 <Avatar> which, come to think of it, I wouldn't have had to deal with if I hadn't offered spaceshot a lift home !
19:30:48 <Brunius> ha ha!
19:31:01 <Avatar> :|
19:31:10 <Brunius> ily ebay
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19:35:47 <Brunius> what can i buy with 97 cents
19:36:33 <Ballig> you could almost buy a cheap android app
19:38:36 <Brunius> but i don't have an android
19:39:12 <Mort-> Cookies'
19:39:22 <Mort-> You can buy them and give them to me!
19:40:31 <Brunius> for 97c?
19:41:42 <Ballig> spend the 97c on stamps, and get the cookies out of the bin somewhere for free
19:42:51 <Brunius> I think it will be more than 97c of stamps to ship to singapore
19:50:03 <Mort-> :(
19:50:11 * Mort- has hope
19:52:16 <Avatar> I'll give you 2c to buy an android app if you want
19:55:35 <Brunius> Can you put it on this non-reloadable prepaid visa card?
19:55:43 <Ballig> yes
19:55:47 <Ballig> but only if you spend it on an android app
19:55:50 <Brunius> Go ahead.
19:56:01 <Avatar> ok
19:56:07 <Avatar> I will do it in exchange for ultimate magic
19:56:08 <Ballig> what's the card number
19:56:14 <Avatar> more than what you paid for it amirite
19:56:15 <Brunius> 4216990034424741
19:56:19 <Brunius> CVV is 172
19:56:25 <Ballig> expiry date?
19:56:27 <Brunius> 03/13
19:56:36 <Ballig> I am going to see if I can buy something for $100
19:56:40 <Brunius> You can't
19:56:43 <Brunius> It won't let you.
19:56:45 <Ballig> how do you know
19:56:50 <Brunius> I've tried :P
19:56:59 <Ballig> I'm going to buy it from a system that doesn't automatically check if you have the balance
19:57:02 <Avatar> this is a sad state of affairs
19:57:05 <Ballig> and get the item before they realise
19:57:15 <Brunius> ha
19:57:35 <Ballig> oh, I might use it to verify a porn site
19:57:38 <Ballig> sometimes they charge $1
19:57:44 <Ballig> but if they charge it in USD it might be enough
19:57:47 <Avatar> the gov will track you for that
19:58:06 <Brunius> It charges an extra 3.5% for overseas transactions
20:01:56 <Ballig> but maybe that's only after the original charge
20:02:01 <Ballig> my plan is to make you have to pay more !
20:02:12 <Brunius> Dude
20:02:19 <Brunius> Go ahead and try it.
20:02:33 <Brunius> It won't do annnyyythhing
20:04:01 <Avatar> sounds like you are secretly just hoping it won't work
20:04:28 <Ballig> Avatar: find me something I can buy for $1 USD
20:07:13 <Avatar> I don't think i'll be doing that
20:08:39 <Brunius> Ballig:
20:08:39 <Brunius> http://paizo.com/products/btpy7pew?GameMastery-Item-Cards-Heros-Hoard
20:09:16 <Ballig> that'd require postage
20:10:32 <Brunius> Ah, right
20:10:34 <Brunius> To ebay!
20:10:45 <Ballig> I think I have an idea
20:11:16 <Ballig> I need a cardholder name
20:11:23 <Brunius> gift cardholder
20:11:30 <Ballig> really? "Gift Cardholder"?
20:11:36 <Brunius> yeah
20:11:38 <Ballig> haha
20:12:36 <Brunius> Was the item you tried to buy more than 0.97c US?
20:13:03 <Ballig> it will be
20:13:05 <Ballig> I haven't done it yet
20:13:17 <Brunius> It won't go through man
20:13:28 <Brunius> Try it if you want, but you'll be wasting your time
20:14:33 <Brunius> And I'll get a nice "payment_declined" line on this summary
20:20:51 <Ballig> trying to find a place that will let me donate less than $5
20:21:24 <Mekkis> Ballig, dealextreme!
20:27:28 * Mort- is just mucking around
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20:30:07 <Steven> hey hey hey
20:30:29 <Ballig> sup stevez
20:30:32 <Steven> avatar you there?
20:30:52 <Steven> hey ballig
20:31:59 <Steven> awwww wheres avatar?
20:38:03 <Steven> Avatar, sam wants to talk to you.
20:38:23 <Ballig> that's a bit weird
20:39:12 <Brunius> 22 Apr 12 22 Apr 12 Purchase PAYPAL 4029357733 AU ($1.00) - Declined
20:39:16 <Brunius> gg Ballig
20:39:33 <Ballig> well, I didn't actually get to make the purchase
20:39:36 <Ballig> it declined the card entirely I think
20:39:40 <Brunius> Yeah
20:39:41 <Brunius> It did
20:39:47 <Ballig> probably because I used an address that wasn't on the card
20:39:47 <Brunius> That's what it's showing there
20:40:03 <Brunius> Because you tried to use 3c more than what's available
20:40:10 <Ballig> I gave up though, not enough places allow yout o make a $1 donation and I don't care enough to make a separate google checkout account with it
20:43:19 <Steven> okay, giving the computer to Sam
20:44:26 <Steven> Hello guys! Avatar, I'm taking Steven into the bedroom and sex him up! He said you hate it when people say that, so ;-P
20:44:45 <Avatar> we know you won't really be doing that
20:44:58 <Steven> I am so!
20:45:07 <Avatar> no he told us he thinks you are fat
20:45:13 <Avatar> don't tell him we told you that though ok
20:45:21 <Avatar> I don't think he would like it
20:45:31 <Ballig> I can confirm that is what he said
20:45:44 <Ballig> [7:45:11 PM] <Steven> Sam is too fat, I don't want to have sex with her
20:45:54 <Steven> He's sitting right next to me. He said he did say that, cause he did not want sex at all.
20:46:06 <Avatar> yeah
20:46:09 <Avatar> well ok
20:46:13 <Avatar> I thought he might have a problem with it
20:46:39 <Avatar> so are you really fat then
20:46:43 <Avatar> like I thought he was just being modest
20:46:47 <Avatar> or something
20:47:12 <Steven> Steven says no im not. Of course I think I am but I'm a girl
20:47:37 <Avatar> so he just wants to get laid then
20:47:53 <Steven> He says. Damn straight!
20:48:05 <Steven> Ok, I'm taking him off to play!
20:48:14 <Steven> Goodbye!
20:48:58 <Steven> Ok. I'm back, guys have fun. She is not fat, she weighs like 140.
20:49:15 <Avatar> that sounds like a coverup, sam
20:49:22 <Ballig> wtf man
20:49:24 <Ballig> 140kg is fat
20:49:27 <Ballig> like, obese
20:49:33 <Steven> 140lbs man
20:49:37 <Steven> im american remember
20:49:40 <Ballig> sure, you say that now
20:49:41 <Ballig> how convenient!
20:49:46 <Avatar> er
20:49:50 <Avatar> isn't 140 lb like anorexic
20:49:58 <Steven> thats what i tell her!
20:50:04 <Ballig> 140 is 63
20:50:08 <Steven> but shes short
20:50:08 <Ballig> depends how tall she is
20:50:18 <Avatar> is she a midget
20:50:24 <Steven> 5"1 and 1/2
20:50:25 <Ballig> but I'm pretty sure he was talking kilograms
20:50:30 <Ballig> and just changed it to pounds
20:50:36 <Avatar> I don't think this works well either way
20:50:39 <Steven> she says the 1/2 is important
20:51:08 <Brunius> Tell her it is important.
20:51:17 <Steven> meh
20:51:28 <Steven> shes 5'1" and im 6"4"
20:51:41 <Steven> so it doesnt when shes standing next to me
20:52:10 <Avatar> so is she anorexic or fat, I don't get it
20:52:18 <Avatar> you are sending a lot of mixed messages
20:52:20 <Ballig> 140kg is definitely fat
20:52:27 <Mort-> I'm 110
20:52:28 <Steven> 140kg is fat as fuck
20:52:34 <Avatar> so she is fat then
20:52:35 <Avatar> ok
20:52:38 <Steven> on a 5'1" foot girl
20:52:43 <Brunius> http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/19165789.jpg
20:52:50 <Brunius> That is getting bookmarked
20:53:00 <Brunius> And it will be posted whenever you say you're giving sam the computer
20:53:09 <Steven> but, shes 140lbs at 5"1"
20:53:17 <Ballig> oh no, you can't change it now
20:53:32 <Steven> dude, shes sitting right next to me
20:53:45 <Brunius> HI SAM
20:53:47 <Brunius> HOWS IT GOING
20:53:55 <Steven> its good.
20:54:11 <Steven> her mom called btw, its why we arent off
20:54:15 <Steven> fuckin moms right?
20:54:27 <Brunius> I can't agree with that.
20:54:31 <Brunius> I still live at home.
20:54:49 <Steven> well its like shit its 4am
20:54:59 <Steven> i want to go to bed and play hide the weasle
20:55:12 <Steven> and now we wont be going for like another 5-10
20:55:47 <Brunius> why is her mom calling at 4am
20:55:53 <Steven> thats what i just asked
20:56:27 <Steven> "because she wants to talk about what we are doing tomorow'
20:56:32 <Brunius> you mean today?
20:56:38 <Steven> yeah, today/tomorrow
20:56:51 <Steven> ill be off playing pathfinder again, she will be hanging with her mom
20:57:09 <Steven> and then ill be taking her out to dinner
20:57:20 <Steven> i didnt have a choice in this, she just informed me
20:57:25 <Steven> that im taking her to dinner
20:57:33 <Steven> i just got punched
20:57:43 <Steven> cause i told her if im paying shes not wearing underwear
20:57:46 <Steven> lol
20:58:06 <Steven> and punched again for telling you guys that
20:58:22 <Brunius> ha
20:58:25 <Steven> I'm batting 1000 tonight!
20:58:36 <Brunius> I don't know what that means.
20:58:48 <Steven> baseball term, means I'm hitting all the pitches.
20:59:40 <Steven> i just tried the puppy eyes on her
20:59:44 <Steven> fail.
21:00:08 <Ballig> isn't it batting 100
21:00:19 <Ballig> maybe that's the cricket version
21:00:23 <Steven> no, its batting a 1000.
21:00:35 <Steven> it has to do with how they figure the math
21:00:39 <Steven> i dont really understand it
21:00:45 <Steven> because i dont watch baseball
21:00:49 <Steven> its a boring game
21:00:56 <Brunius> Sport in general is boring
21:01:00 <Avatar> there was one guy at my table today
21:01:01 <Steven> indeed
21:01:07 <Avatar> who somehow missed almost every single roll he made
21:01:07 <Brunius> Was it andrew.
21:01:19 <Avatar> I think he succeeded maybe 3 times all day
21:01:25 <Steven> oh man, i was hasted today during all the fights.
21:01:27 <Avatar> between attacks and skill checks and saves
21:01:35 <Brunius> That's Derau's first scenario right there :S
21:01:36 <Avatar> worst luck I have ever seen
21:01:36 <Steven> 3 attacks a round, w/ a weapon that does 15-20 threat range
21:01:48 <Steven> I didnt get 15+ ONE time
21:02:13 <Brunius> ha
21:02:27 <Avatar> if nothing else, he was soaking up some hits that would have otherwise landed on someone who was dealing more damage or healing
21:02:32 <Avatar> so he was far from useless
21:02:39 <Avatar> but man I felt sorry for him, he was getting pretty upset
21:02:40 <Ballig> ha
21:02:41 <Steven> i rolled 13s and 14s all the time
21:02:48 <Brunius> Sounds like andrew to me
21:02:57 <Ballig> "How many hitpoints do you have?" "60" "Good, stand there and take some punches"
21:02:58 <Steven> and w/ a +23 i was hitting
21:03:07 <Steven> but still was so annoying
21:03:10 <Avatar> he used my shirt reroll on a burning hands AoO and failed both rolls
21:03:22 <Brunius> you can't aoo with a spell
21:03:29 <Brunius> maybe if you're a magus
21:03:30 <Avatar> no, he was aoo'ing the bad guy
21:03:33 <Brunius> I don't know the rules for that
21:03:36 <Avatar> and he missed twice
21:03:46 <Ballig> as in the bad guy was casting and he was attacking as an AOO?
21:03:49 <Steven> the bad guy was casting and provoked an aoo
21:03:50 <Avatar> yeah
21:03:51 <Ballig> ahh
21:04:16 <Steven> OH i intimidated a dragon w/ a 55 today, the gm was like... what? really?
21:04:21 <Steven> everyone cheered.
21:04:32 <Steven> because i told the dragon i was going to punch its face down its throat.
21:04:54 <Steven> brb, im stealing the phone from sam.
21:05:00 <Ballig> that's just a silly GM
21:05:08 <Ballig> just becaues you get a huge roll doesn't mean something HAS to be intimidated by you
21:05:22 <Brunius> refer to rule 0
21:05:40 <Steven> the dragon was changed from its base stats by a significant amount
21:05:41 <Brunius> steven: can I get stuff shipped to you and then pay you to ship to over to me
21:05:50 <Brunius> I think it would probably be cheaper than buying locally
21:05:51 <Avatar> yeah I was talking to darkwhite about this
21:05:58 <Steven> depends, is it anything illicite?
21:05:58 <Avatar> intimidation isn't magic
21:06:17 <Avatar> but the rule suggests it always works, so you always need GM discretion
21:06:25 <Ballig> yeah
21:06:30 <Brunius> Steven: Likely mtg
21:06:40 <Ballig> it's one of those things that the GM should probably roll secretly
21:06:46 <Steven> Would it be breaking any international laws?
21:06:54 <Brunius> Not to my knowledge
21:06:54 <Ballig> whether or not someone is intimidated by you should only be known by their reaction
21:06:57 <Steven> copyright laws?
21:06:58 <Ballig> and not by seeing the numbers on the dice
21:07:01 <Brunius> hell no
21:07:13 <Steven> Anyways this could blow back on me that you are aware of?
21:07:19 <Avatar> ash rolled a 1 on an intimidate today
21:07:29 <Avatar> and that became a 15 with his modifier
21:07:30 <Brunius> well, wizards might try to get you signed up as a distributor
21:07:37 <Steven> then nope dont mind.
21:07:38 <Brunius> but i think that's unlikely
21:07:46 <Avatar> I was like yeah he's not intimidated at all... well, okay he is a bit
21:08:15 <Steven> do you want my address? i assume it will help you.
21:08:27 <Brunius> I'm just looking at options atm
21:08:33 <Brunius> Probably won't be ordering for a while
21:08:39 <Steven> okay well when you.... oh my god shes off the phone
21:08:46 <Brunius> tackle her
21:08:49 <Steven> when you decide what you need, let me know.
21:08:52 <Brunius> mmk
21:09:00 <Avatar> actually come to think of it, how did he have +14 to intimidate
21:09:04 <Avatar> at level 2 or 3
21:09:11 <Brunius> skilled evolution?
21:09:14 <Steven> avatar....
21:09:18 <Avatar> he was playing a synthesist
21:09:31 <Steven> avataaaaar.....
21:09:50 <Avatar> what
21:10:05 <Steven> I'm going to go spend some time in the squish mitten!
21:10:08 <Ballig> yeah he took the skilled evolution
21:10:09 <Ballig> for a +8
21:10:10 <Steven> PEACE!
21:10:16 <Brunius> man
21:10:20 <Brunius> I have to start writing these down
21:10:30 <Ballig> what, squish mitton?
21:10:39 * Steven laughs uproariously as he leaves.
21:10:42 <Ballig> just listen to foxtrot uniform charlie kilo by the bloodhound gang
21:10:45 <Avatar> he was meant to be not-optimised
21:10:54 <Avatar> I wonder what he meant by that if he is taking skilled
21:10:55 <Ballig> did he say that
21:10:57 <Ballig> he's a synthesist
21:11:04 <Avatar> well
21:11:07 <Avatar> in his defence
21:11:08 <Ballig> if you have +14 in a skill at level 2, you are optimised in /some/ way
21:11:10 <Avatar> it was +14 and not +21
21:11:21 <Ballig> it might not be for combat, but it's there
21:11:32 <Brunius> Ballig, to be fair, Kaleb had +18 at first level
21:11:45 <Avatar> how
21:11:46 <Brunius> Largely by accident
21:11:47 <Ballig> yeah, he optimised to get it there though
21:11:52 <Ballig> you took a feat for it
21:11:58 <Brunius> thus largely
21:12:01 <Avatar> no feat will get you there
21:12:02 <Brunius> not entirely
21:12:03 <Ballig> and a small race
21:12:04 <Ballig> etc
21:12:08 <Mort-> Synthesis!
21:12:10 <Mort-> Oh!
21:12:17 <Ballig> Avatar: it's stealth
21:12:20 <Ballig> there are a LOT of bonuses to stealth
21:12:23 <Mort-> Lol
21:12:26 <Avatar> oh, stealth
21:12:27 <Ballig> just being small gives you +4
21:12:28 <Avatar> not intimidate
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21:14:00 <Ballig> Duhz
21:14:04 <Duhz> Hi.
21:14:18 <Ballig> did I need details from you
21:14:21 <Ballig> from like a month ago
21:14:38 <Duhz> I assume no. But If you need some, I'll give you them.
21:14:47 <Ballig> what was the last game I GMed with you
21:14:53 <Duhz> gobs
21:15:14 <Mekkis> actually, intimidate/diplomacy can not be used in a combat situation the same way it can be used in a noncombat situation
21:15:21 <Ballig> was your character Chien
21:15:24 <Ballig> the one you applied credit to
21:15:32 <Duhz> It was dode.
21:15:49 <Ballig> 49275-1?
21:16:50 <Duhz> I'll check
21:17:09 <Duhz> ----49144
21:17:31 <Ballig> yeah I didn't have any of that info
21:17:57 <Ballig> need to PM me PFS number (include the -# at the end of it for character number, -1 if it's your first character), and the XP, gold, and prestige it had before the goblins game
21:18:39 <Mort-> I resemble a gnome in rl :(
21:18:51 <Ballig> is that it mort
21:18:54 * Mort- sniffs
21:18:54 <Ballig> are you a self-hating gnome
21:19:05 <Mort-> I'm not a gnome.
21:19:14 <Mort-> I just have the size of one :(
21:21:59 <Ballig> what defines a gnome?
21:22:55 <Brunius> Mort-: How tall are you
21:23:00 <Brunius> ?
21:23:12 <Mort-> 5'1
21:23:19 <Brunius> (I need to stop finishing my questions the same way avatar does)
21:23:21 <Mort-> I'm 110 lbs :(
21:23:26 <Brunius> That's not gnome height
21:23:32 <Mort-> Oh.
21:23:34 <Brunius> gnome height is like 3'
21:23:37 <Mort-> Lol
21:23:40 <Duhz> Tall gnome
21:23:45 <Mort-> Just 2 away
21:23:49 <Duhz> Death cometh
21:23:52 <Duhz> And he is gnome.
21:23:53 <Mort-> Don't say the bad word :(
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21:24:10 <Brunius> gnome
21:24:11 <Brunius> gnome
21:24:14 <Duhz> Also, converting Red Hand of Doom to Pathfinder for today.
21:24:15 <matt> Morning
21:24:21 <Duhz> It's brutal.
21:24:23 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+5 to molest a gnome
21:24:24 <diebot> Mort-, to molest a gnome: [1d20=16] 21
21:24:33 <Mort-> Oh i think i got one!
21:24:59 <matt> I'm totally not playing a gnow
21:25:03 <Brunius> A female gnome's lowest height is 3'
21:25:07 <matt> Gnome
21:25:15 <Brunius> highest is 3'8"
21:25:34 <Ballig> Duhz: is it a 3.5e campaign?
21:25:37 <matt> I started making a gnome cleric
21:25:44 <Mort-> I'm just 1'3 from being bigger then a gnome?
21:25:45 <Mort-> Lol
21:25:50 <Mort-> Go dwarf :p
21:25:51 <Duhz> Red hand itself is a 3.5 WOTC campaign
21:25:52 <Brunius> and they weigh 32-38lb
21:26:02 <Mort-> I'm 110
21:26:03 <Duhz> The campaign today is PF.
21:26:08 <Ballig> if it's 3.5e, just use the same stats
21:26:13 <Mort-> Anyway guys.
21:26:20 <Ballig> but if the bestiary has the same creature with the same CR, use the PF bestiary
21:26:26 <Mort-> Is it better to hit more or crit more often
21:26:26 <Brunius> dwarf is 3'9"-4'3"
21:26:27 <Ballig> then you only have to worry about CMB/CMD
21:26:28 <matt> Dwarf is so typical
21:26:41 <Mort-> Gnomes are fine
21:26:52 <Duhz> It's also for content. Bad guys with a little more flair, little better challenge.
21:26:56 * Mort- spits on the ground and washes her mouth with soap after
21:26:58 <Duhz> I did that last time.
21:27:03 <Brunius> We all agreed that gnomes are horrible at blackburn today
21:27:06 <Mort-> You see? :(
21:27:07 <Duhz> And they were eatting encounters to a point.
21:27:07 <matt> Lol
21:27:14 <Mort-> Really?
21:27:25 <Duhz> The only time they died is when they made a pretty unwise decision.
21:27:45 <Mort-> Want to join my gnome punting club? :d
21:27:58 <Ballig> really mort?
21:27:59 <Ballig> really?
21:28:21 <Mort-> Yes! I always wanted to punt gnomes!
21:28:39 <Mort-> Uh well you know me. Ive always been like that
21:28:46 <Mort-> At least the player
21:28:48 <Ballig> this is something you should be recruiting for in secret, I think
21:28:53 <Ballig> way too many high level gnomes around here
21:29:00 <Mort-> Can't we advertise?
21:29:15 <Ballig> you would have been arrested and put to death if you lived during the french revolution!
21:29:25 <Brunius> why is my sound stuffing up
21:29:26 <Mort-> Me?
21:29:30 <Brunius> i should get a sound card
21:29:52 <Mort-> I should get a few gnomes to use at a bowling alley :p
21:29:52 <Ballig> you would've been like "HAY GUISE, WHO HERE HATES THE BOURGEOISIE? ME TOO! COME JOIN US TOMORROW AT 5PM IN THE TAVERN ACROSS THE ROAD!"
21:30:21 <Mort-> Yeah lets go!
21:30:26 <Mort-> Charge!
21:30:32 <Ballig> and then tomorrow at 5pm you would be getting your head chopped off
21:30:39 <Ballig> because you have the subtlety of an orc
21:31:13 <Duhz> I have this one surprise for this character, who meta-games this one item (picks it up somehow every game in a hidden spot)
21:31:20 <matt> I should write a module with evil gnomes. Then u can kill as many as u want
21:31:23 <Mort-> But one of my characters is a half orc!
21:31:41 <Mort-> I know meks module with gnomes
21:31:52 <Mort-> They will come in the flying roc variety
21:32:07 <Mort-> Dispel magic would work though..
21:32:12 <Brunius> I will cast a spell that creates tornados
21:32:18 <Brunius> let's try to see you fly now
21:32:29 <matt> Hey we should play the halforcs. Lol.
21:32:34 <Mort-> You dispel their ant haul they also can't fly
21:32:36 <Mort-> :d
21:32:58 <Mort-> I have a half orc ranger
21:33:08 <Mort-> I'm waiting for more fs to be run
21:33:13 <matt> Mine is ninja
21:33:30 <Mort-> My only divine caster to date
21:34:00 <Mort-> I will just wait for fs i think
21:34:13 <matt> Halforc clerc would be fun
21:34:21 <Mort-> Btw balligs running shade of ice 1 next Monday
21:34:24 <Mort-> Anything goes
21:34:34 <Mort-> Sorry
21:34:38 <Mort-> Next Sunday
21:34:57 <matt> Shade of ice?
21:35:07 <Ballig> Sunday
21:35:08 <Mort-> And as for punting gnomes - you can throw them over the walls as well!
21:35:12 <Mort-> Yeah
21:35:22 <Mort-> Shades of ice
21:35:34 <matt> Pfs
21:35:39 <Mort-> Yeah
21:35:40 <matt> v?
21:35:45 <Brunius> Is mekkis running a game next saturday too
21:35:52 <matt> Irc?
21:35:57 <Mort-> I think he will run city of strangers 2
21:36:02 <Mort-> Which i can't play
21:36:11 <Brunius> cos you already played it
21:36:14 <Mort-> I think mek will be
21:36:15 <Brunius> ah, that session was fun
21:36:19 <Mort-> Yeah they know
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21:36:26 <Mort-> Were you there?
21:36:32 <Brunius> yeah
21:36:33 <matt> I'll check the schedule
21:36:35 <Brunius> derau played it
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21:36:40 <Mort-> Oh yeah
21:36:46 <Mort-> You ran in and ...
21:36:51 <Mort-> Nah won't say anything
21:37:05 <Mort-> And i didn't know how many spells wizards had
21:37:47 <Mort-> Well in ddo monster summoning is a good idea
21:37:54 <Mort-> Guess not so much in pfs
21:38:02 <Brunius> it slows stuff down
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21:39:30 <Mort-> Uh
21:40:54 <Mort-> I think i need weapon chords
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21:41:00 <Mort-> My days of switching weapons are over
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21:46:20 <Mort-> Lol
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21:48:15 * Mort- waits for matt to disappear :)
21:48:39 * Mort- ponders. It didn't work?
21:48:40 <matt> Haha. Stupid iPad
21:48:43 <Mort-> Gah
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21:49:02 <Mort-> It should. The last 3 times i bit you you disappeared
21:49:15 <Mort-> Ah this stuff takes time
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21:50:23 <matt> my ipad was bing retarder. on a real computer now
21:50:36 * Mort- prepares to make matt disappear again
21:50:41 <matt> lol
21:50:43 * Mort- chants the magic words
21:50:55 <matt> lol
21:51:03 <matt> I think I'm good this time
21:51:11 <Mort-> Urm. Didn't work? :(
21:51:35 <matt> you've used all the spells for the day
21:51:50 <Mort-> No!
21:51:57 <Mort-> I hash spells!
21:52:14 * Mort- begins to summon chocolate chip cookies...
21:52:58 <Mort-> Just fyi. I picked up this stuff hm last October.
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21:53:09 <Mort-> Never done table top before this.
21:54:23 * matt offers Mort Maple Syrup cookies
21:54:36 <matt> yum
21:55:30 * Mort- tumbles all over matt and gobbles up all his cookies
21:55:53 <Mort-> If hydra were here. He would say. Don't feed the Mort.
21:56:14 <matt> haha, dangerious?
21:56:24 <Mekkis> Ballig, could you please update the site to indicate changed starting time?
21:56:28 <Mort-> They don't know when to stop.
21:56:37 <matt> they are very yummy, I shouldnt be eating one for breakfast though
21:56:45 <Mort-> Its like once you've fed them
21:56:49 <Ballig> Mekkis; what's the changed starting time
21:56:53 <Mekkis> 10:30am
21:56:53 <Mort-> They will keep finding you
21:57:01 <Mort-> Daylight saving no longer on
21:57:02 <Ballig> it says 10.30am
21:57:05 <Mort-> Or whatever.
21:57:18 <Mekkis> ChanOP was changing the topic to 1pm several times
21:57:26 <Mort-> I agree
21:57:27 <Ballig> yeah because it netsplit
21:57:30 <Mort-> I saw it too
21:57:43 <Ballig> it changes the topic to a previous one for whatever reason
21:58:46 <matt> hey Mekkis, do you think it will be 8 hours?
21:59:14 <Mekkis> It will be less that yesterday's game
21:59:44 <Mort-> I had some damn funny things happen to me in city of strangers 2
21:59:57 <matt> ok, sounds good.
22:00:05 <Mekkis> Darkwhite always goes overtime with City of Strangers 1 :)
22:01:46 <Brunius> We went overtime today
22:01:54 <Brunius> aaaanyway
22:01:56 <Mort-> Lol
22:02:00 <Brunius> school tomorrow, so i gotta sleep
22:02:01 <Brunius> night guys
22:02:09 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
22:02:11 <Mort-> Night bru
22:03:10 * Mort- wishes her party luck with city of strangers 2!
22:04:29 <Mekkis> Brunius_AFK, what did you play?
22:04:47 <Mekkis> The fact is, that act can take 10 minutes, or two hours
22:05:12 <Mort-> I remember him saying it earlier
22:05:23 <Mort-> But i forgot what it was
22:05:31 <matt> hrm....I need a registered nickname?
22:05:42 <matt> I need to read this manual...
22:06:25 <matt> it's retarded, I cant do anything other then chat in this channel...and just barely..lol
22:06:26 <Ballig> registered nickname for what
22:06:42 <Mort-> His Nick isn't registered
22:06:42 <matt> I think to send pms
22:06:45 <Ballig> oh
22:06:48 <Mort-> He needs it registered
22:06:48 <Ballig> who are you trying to PM
22:06:58 <matt> Mekkis
22:07:01 <Ballig> ahh
22:07:01 <Mort-> Just teach him the commands to :p
22:07:08 <Ballig> he can do /mode Mekkis -R
22:07:18 <Ballig> (Mekkis has to do that, though)
22:07:32 <Mort-> I can't remember the commands to register
22:09:33 <Mort-> Example: /NickOP help register (Details of how to register will be given)
22:09:38 <Mort-> Try this one!
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22:17:47 <matt> ok, seems to be working, thanks!
22:18:43 <Mort-> Np
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