// #d&d — 2012-04-08
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00:03:42 <Avatar> melb central to south yarra
00:03:59 <Avatar> get on the frankston or pakenham line
00:04:13 <Avatar> platform 3 I think you want
00:04:55 <Spaceshot> it's not hard to find which one, it's more of which station to go to
00:05:24 <Mekkis> Avatar, could you print out my chronicle sheet for QFP3 please, for tomorrow?
00:05:29 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, South Yarra
00:05:40 <Spaceshot> I know where to get off at
00:05:58 <Spaceshot> brun is ben right?
00:06:04 <Spaceshot> just trying to remember IRL names :P
00:06:36 <Osterguard> I'm Jack
00:07:44 <Mort-> Your going to convention tomorrow no right
00:07:54 <Avatar> mekkis: yeah send it to me
00:07:58 <Avatar> oh, do you have it
00:08:04 <Mekkis> I'll check
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00:08:19 <Spaceshot> I am
00:08:57 <Spaceshot> I really doubt it, but I might have a gnome
00:09:03 <Spaceshot> well I do, but it's a male :P
00:09:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, can't seem to find it
00:09:47 <Mort-> Not another?
00:09:55 <Mort-> Gnome? :(
00:10:02 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, don't give gnomes a bad name!
00:10:26 <Mekkis> "we are the .99%!"
00:11:25 <Spaceshot> you don't want to know
00:11:27 <Spaceshot> :P
00:11:34 <Spaceshot> Pyra the pyromaniac gnome
00:12:52 <Spaceshot> I really need to get some medium armoured females with shields
00:14:24 <Spaceshot> I have plenty of dwarfs, goblins and orgres
00:16:23 <Mekkis> there are crazy gnomes
00:16:29 <Mekkis> and there are stupid gnomes
00:16:33 <Mekkis> the former are good
00:16:36 <Mekkis> the latter are bad.
00:16:39 <Ballig> Pyra is a crazy stupid gnome
00:16:47 <Avatar> Mekkis: what details didn't you give me for it
00:17:04 <Mekkis> 10339-6
00:17:09 <Spaceshot> not exactly ballg
00:17:11 <Mekkis> full prestige
00:17:12 <Spaceshot> Ballig*
00:17:17 <Mekkis> full gold
00:17:24 <Spaceshot> just likes to burn things, check the flammability of things, and OMGslow
00:17:25 <Mekkis> no dayjob
00:17:50 <Spaceshot> I really need to start making some models
00:18:12 <Spaceshot> or buying some
00:18:38 <Avatar> how much exp did he have before that game
00:18:47 <Mekkis> 14
00:18:47 <Avatar> I think that was what wasn't on your sheet
00:18:49 <Mekkis> increased to 15
00:18:51 <Avatar> and prestige
00:18:55 <Mekkis> ummm
00:18:55 <Mekkis> sorry
00:19:02 <Mekkis> 11 increased to 12
00:19:11 <Mekkis> prestige was...
00:19:17 <Mekkis> 22 increased to 24
00:19:25 <Mekkis> he's had a perfect record!
00:20:08 <Avatar> pretty easy when you're upping them with GM credit
00:20:22 <Mekkis> true
00:20:30 <Avatar> pm me your faction
00:20:34 <Avatar> or notice me
00:20:37 <Ballig> or just say it
00:20:39 <Ballig> because seriously who cares
00:20:49 <Avatar> yeah :P
00:20:51 <Spaceshot> yea
00:20:59 <Mekkis> I'm old fashioned
00:21:05 <Spaceshot> I know that ronal is Osarion (didn't keep that a secret)
00:21:13 <Ballig> you just like having secrets because you think secrets is synonymous with roleplay
00:21:34 <Spaceshot> you can't PvP and I doubt you can even go against someones faction mission
00:21:35 <Mekkis> today was the second time I needed to ask a non-faction member for assistance with a mission
00:21:59 <Mekkis> both times, the assistant was unaware
00:22:15 <Ballig> you think they're unaware
00:22:16 <Ballig> they're not
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00:22:41 <Mekkis> Ballig, after they did it, it was like, "Did I just do your faction mission? Shit"
00:22:53 <Jumpy142> Hey
00:22:56 <Ballig> then they're idiots
00:23:03 <Ballig> if it takes them that long to figure it out
00:23:19 <Spaceshot> how is helping a party member a bad thing?
00:23:22 <Spaceshot> fuck
00:23:27 <Mekkis> if you roleplay it properly, then they're not
00:23:33 <Spaceshot> why are people only out for themselves
00:23:33 <Jumpy142> When I level up, if I choose a level in barb, do I roll the hit die or just get max like as in lvl1?
00:23:46 <Avatar> you can choose or choose not to help out a party member and still know, as a player, what their faction is
00:23:54 <Ballig> yeah
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00:24:10 <Ballig> and anyone with half a brain can figure out that when the person wants help doing something unrelated to the mission that it's for a faction
00:24:20 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: even if you roleplay out something awesomely, if you're asking for help on something that isn't because you or someone else is dying, nor has to do with the main mission
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00:24:23 <Spaceshot> it's a faction mission
00:24:36 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, not always
00:24:39 <Mekkis> it can be a curveball
00:24:48 <Ballig> very infrequently
00:24:48 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: you're playing with retards then
00:24:52 <Mekkis> you can make it seem like your faction mission's part of the main mission
00:24:52 <Mort-> You roll hit die
00:24:59 <Ballig> you get the amount specified in the pathfinder society guide to organised play
00:25:02 <Ballig> Mort-: no you don't
00:25:07 <Jumpy142> Hey, my thingy number isn't in the format xxxxx-y, it's just xxxxx. What's wrong with me?
00:25:09 <Spaceshot> many are within the main mission
00:25:15 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, I throw curveballs frequently
00:25:15 <Mort-> Yeah 7 points
00:25:19 <Spaceshot> your first character will be -1
00:25:20 <Mort-> For barb
00:25:27 <Jumpy142> Oh right ok
00:25:27 <Ballig> you think you do, you really don't
00:25:27 <Ballig> it ends up being half maximum + 1
00:25:30 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: you also make me not care frequently
00:25:30 <Ballig> which is 7 for a barbarian
00:25:36 <Mekkis> I know
00:25:40 <Mekkis> you're a careless sort of guy
00:25:42 <Jumpy142> Ah ok
00:25:43 <Spaceshot> just because you think it's within all good reason to be a tool, doesn't mean it is
00:26:01 <Jumpy142> How do I register again?
00:26:08 <Jumpy142> Doesn't seem to be working
00:26:23 <Spaceshot> like I also know a bunch of characters factions just by what the mission envolved
00:26:30 <Spaceshot> 2 of those was because it was also my mission :P
00:26:47 <Jumpy142> Oh there we go
00:26:50 <Avatar> the problem is
00:27:00 <Avatar> now that we all know you don't want to divulge your faction as player knowledge
00:27:07 <Avatar> we're really inclined to be asses to you in solving yours
00:27:12 <Avatar> by default
00:27:13 <Ballig> ha
00:27:15 <Avatar> even if we don't really want to
00:27:22 <Spaceshot> yup
00:27:22 <Avatar> because you could screw us over at any time and we won't know
00:27:23 <Jumpy142> So do you guys ever play not on weekends?
00:27:45 <Spaceshot> secrets don't help roleplaying
00:28:00 <Avatar> so even though we'd want to help you, our options are you screw us over, we screw you over, both, or we get lucky
00:28:13 <Mort-> If you can find enough people
00:28:18 <Mekkis> if you want to get my help on a faction mission, come up with a reason why I should help you, and I'll help you
00:28:19 <Mort-> Get avatar to run
00:28:22 <Avatar> as opposed to just not metagaming
00:28:29 <Jumpy142> Does avatar ever talk?
00:28:34 <Avatar> people do that anyway though
00:28:38 <Mort-> But we mostly are honest citizens on week days
00:28:42 <Ballig> he's at a convention this weekend
00:28:45 <Jumpy142> Booring
00:28:49 <Ballig> thing is, you are a bit too critical on what a legitimate reason to help someone is
00:28:52 <Mekkis> but if the reason's "My Faction Leader wants me to", I probably won't help you
00:28:52 <Jumpy142> What convention?
00:28:52 <Mort-> So we don't d&d
00:28:53 <Ballig> you think it has to be some elaborate reasoning
00:28:58 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: why is it such a hastle and chore to help a party member out?
00:28:59 <Mort-> We have bosses to answer to
00:29:01 <Avatar> if you don't want to help, that's fine, but to not even want to divulge your faction so that you can screw us over if you want to
00:29:07 <Avatar> I mean cmon
00:29:09 <Ballig> when really, if you were adventuring with a group and one of them said "hey, can you check out this corpse? how long ago did he die?"
00:29:14 <Ballig> they're probably not going to question your motives for half an hour
00:29:16 <Mort-> And why yes. Avatar can speak in complete sentences.
00:29:18 <Ballig> and then refuse to help you
00:29:26 <Mekkis> and in that case, I wouldn't
00:29:27 <Mort-> He probably has better grammar then i do
00:29:41 <Mort-> Punctuation and spelling as well
00:29:59 <Mekkis> but if it's something like "Can you slip this note into that guard's pocket - you're better at that sort of thing than me", then I would question your motives
00:30:10 <Jumpy142> Wow, he must be sophisticated
00:30:13 <Spaceshot> when did PFS become "how can I finish my faction mission/s and make sure the other party members can't"?
00:30:32 <Mekkis> oh
00:30:35 <Spaceshot> so, who cares if it's a faction mission or not
00:30:38 <Mekkis> it was like that in the beginning
00:30:41 <Spaceshot> it's not going to damage your character
00:30:43 <Avatar> Spaceshot: some people like to play on a "I'll do this for you if you'll do that for me"
00:30:54 <Mekkis> there's been a gradual shift away from that sort of thing
00:30:58 <Ballig> I think some people like to think that PFS is Paranoia
00:30:58 <Spaceshot> Avatar: that's fair and understandable
00:30:59 <Avatar> this is about player knowledge vs character knowledge
00:31:02 <Ballig> and everyone is working against each other in secret
00:31:11 <Mort-> Lol
00:31:19 <Mort-> I'm trying to be a dandy :p
00:31:22 <Mekkis> in Season 1, they were
00:31:31 <Spaceshot> Ballig: that's right, we're all mutants, who are part of a secret society with an agenda
00:31:34 <Mort-> Being crap again
00:31:50 <Ballig> Jumpy142: there's a Pathfinder Society convention in Melbourne this weekend
00:31:55 <Jumpy142> Oh cool
00:31:57 <Ballig> Mekkis: the factions were overall, but not necessarily the pawns
00:31:57 <Mort-> Lol
00:31:58 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: so, that was then (and I have no idea why) and this is now
00:32:09 <Mort-> So he is down there yes
00:32:15 <Jumpy142> What are they like?
00:32:22 <Ballig> just because you're loyal to Australia and someone from the Australian government asks you to check out some documents while you're in Russia doesn't mean that you are actively working against the guy who is loyal to Britain
00:32:43 <Ballig> even if Australia and Britain are working against each other at the higher levels
00:32:54 <Spaceshot> that
00:32:58 <Mekkis> Season 1 was all about five factions, Andoran, Cheliax, Taldor, Qadira and Osirion, fighting for control over the inner sea
00:33:12 <Mort-> They probably are humanoids
00:33:17 <Mort-> Have arms and legs
00:33:26 <Jumpy142> The conventions...
00:33:27 <Avatar> Mekkis: you know how darkwhite got me to choose a region last night
00:33:29 <Mekkis> season 2 added the Shadow Lodge into it, and to an extent the factional conflicts got shunted to the wayside
00:33:30 <Mort-> Have hair. Or maybe some without
00:33:31 <Avatar> for snickers
00:33:32 <Jumpy142> >.<
00:33:33 <Mekkis> ja?
00:33:41 <Avatar> john made me choose one for buck tonight
00:33:51 <Spaceshot> you need to choose regions now?
00:33:52 <Mekkis> where's Buck from?
00:33:55 <Mekkis> the gun region?
00:33:58 <Avatar> he's uh
00:34:03 <Mekkis> Akuahafdlkfa?
00:34:05 <Avatar> what do you call it
00:34:07 <Avatar> ulef
00:34:10 <Mort-> Filled with people who live on 3 hs of sleep. 2 meals per day. And hopefully one bath
00:34:12 <Mort-> Per day
00:34:16 <Mort-> ^^
00:34:22 <Avatar> or something
00:34:30 <Avatar> except he just doesn't look like a typical one
00:34:55 <Avatar> ulfen
00:34:55 <Mort-> We hope they remembered to take a bath.
00:35:10 <Spaceshot> that sounds like you'd look russian
00:35:16 <Spaceshot> like those russian bear tamers
00:35:20 <Avatar> it was just funny that I'd been meaning to pick ethnicities for months
00:35:26 <Mort-> There is something about you have to wear a faction t shirt in order to be qualified for the re roll
00:35:38 <Avatar> and now I had to pick two regions in two days
00:35:39 <Mort-> Wearing the same shirt for 3 days in a row?
00:35:41 <Mort-> Fantastic
00:35:48 <Jumpy142> Nice
00:35:56 <Steven_> sup
00:35:56 <Avatar> I didn't really like ulfen
00:36:17 <Avatar> but it seemed to match better than any of the others
00:36:20 <Mort-> The smell ^^
00:36:27 <Mekkis> Alkenstar, Grand Duchy of
00:36:42 <Mekkis> that's where Buck should be from
00:37:12 <Ballig> you should c hange your region every game
00:37:17 <Ballig> see how long it takes for a GM to pick up on it
00:37:22 <Spaceshot> yea, cause buck should be from somewhere the player didn't choose and instead someone else did
00:37:23 <Spaceshot> good choice
00:37:39 <Mekkis> http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Alkenstar
00:37:51 <Avatar> you can't, you get free languages out of it
00:38:07 <Spaceshot> buck is human?
00:38:13 <Avatar> yeah
00:38:22 <Spaceshot> and snickers is too?
00:38:32 <Avatar> snickers is varisian
00:38:33 <Mekkis> it would also explain Buck having Heal
00:38:39 <Spaceshot> :P
00:38:53 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: how about he makes his character and you make yours?
00:39:06 <Avatar> what the fuck
00:39:08 <Avatar> where is that
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00:39:38 <Steven_> so
00:39:46 <Steven_> what happened last night after i left
00:39:55 <Steven_> and had a glorious nights sleep i might add
00:40:05 <Avatar> what ethnicities are there
00:40:53 <Avatar> keleshite or garundi
00:41:01 <Spaceshot> tien
00:41:10 <Avatar> man, I'll get that fixed up tomorrow
00:41:12 <Avatar> that's far more appropriate
00:41:14 <Spaceshot> just look at inner sea guide :P
00:41:21 <Spaceshot> Steven_: not much
00:41:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, I think it's between Nex and Geb
00:41:28 <Avatar> he'll be keleshite
00:41:29 <Spaceshot> anywho, I'm going to bed
00:41:33 <Steven_> there pretty much an ethnicity for every country on the map
00:41:38 <Avatar> I don't see nex and geb in the list
00:41:39 <Spaceshot> gotta get there around 9 :P
00:41:46 <Steven_> have fun space!
00:41:52 <Mekkis> they're countries, not ethnicities S:
00:42:08 <Spaceshot> I'll try to burn more things, or be a healbot (depends on which oracle I end up playing)
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00:42:50 <Mekkis> Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting p60
00:42:59 <Steven_> im thinking of making me some hash and eggs
00:43:01 <Mekkis> anyway. Sleep
00:43:03 <SpaceshotNote> Woo, uptiered gold is awesome
00:43:05 <Mort-> !roll 1d20+15
00:43:05 <dicebot> Mort-, 1d20+15: [1d20=10] 25
00:43:33 <SpaceshotNote> Over doubled my current gold
00:43:44 <Avatar> I think snickers levelled again today
00:44:19 <Mort-> Wow
00:44:22 <Mort-> Grats
00:44:37 <SpaceshotNote> Haha she's 5 or 6 now?
00:44:41 <Avatar> she's 7 now
00:44:49 <Mort-> Are you going to be around
00:44:53 <Steven_> yeah.... hash and eggs, its the plan, ill brb, i gotta go make me some.
00:44:56 <Avatar> I have to double check it though
00:44:57 <Mort-> For sniper in the deep
00:45:00 <Avatar> she may may need one more scenario
00:45:07 <Avatar> what do you mean
00:45:07 <Mort-> On 14th?
00:45:12 <Avatar> yeah
00:45:15 <Mort-> Ok
00:45:22 <Avatar> SpaceshotNote: how much did you have before
00:45:32 <Avatar> if you only had 500gp, doubling is pretty easy
00:45:39 <Mort-> Can anyone who doesn't have an appropqiate
00:45:41 <Mort-> Level
00:45:51 <Ballig> no
00:45:53 <Mort-> Use a pregen?
00:45:56 <Mort-> Can't?
00:45:57 <Ballig> uh, yeah
00:45:59 <Ballig> a pregen yes
00:46:01 <Mort-> Ok
00:46:03 <Avatar> what level is sniper
00:46:05 <Avatar> what tier*
00:46:09 <Ballig> 5-9
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00:46:10 <SpaceshotNote> Heh
00:46:10 <SpaceshotNote> Avatar, fuck I hate devils
00:46:10 <SpaceshotNote> I had 2.5I
00:46:10 <SpaceshotNote> Got 3.3k
00:46:15 <Mort-> Then apply the credit when they get there?
00:46:18 <Avatar> darkwhite wanted to run that today
00:46:18 <Mort-> Wow
00:46:25 <Avatar> we had to tell him no no no that's ours
00:46:31 <Ballig> ha
00:46:39 <Avatar> like he almost put me, thelen, mekkis and tristen on it
00:47:00 <Mort-> What's mek doing
00:47:09 <Mort-> Oster and hydra
00:47:18 <Mort-> Don't have characters that tier
00:47:30 <Mort-> Suggest they take pregens
00:47:46 <Mort-> Ballig. Your in too?
00:48:17 <Mort-> So either we run something low level or just get them to pop pregens
00:48:20 <Ballig> my in too? what is that
00:48:33 <Mort-> Sniper in the deep
00:48:38 <Ballig> my in too sniper in the deep?
00:48:38 <Mort-> Bru running on the 14
00:48:39 <Ballig> that makes no sense
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00:59:14 <Avatar> oh
00:59:22 <Avatar> I finally used grit tonight
00:59:24 <Avatar> a lot
00:59:30 <Avatar> my entire pool of it, actually
00:59:40 <Ballig> nice
00:59:46 <Ballig> finally making use of that extra grit feat
00:59:46 <Avatar> so my grit feat that I chose at 1st level finally became worthwhile
01:00:02 <Avatar> I need to choose another feat now
01:00:11 <Avatar> mobility I guess
01:00:20 <Ballig> weren't you working toward snap shot
01:00:26 <Avatar> no, I was avoiding it
01:00:32 <Ballig> you wanted it, you were avoiding weapon focus
01:00:35 <Mort-> Lol
01:00:36 <Mort-> Keep 1 point
01:00:40 <Avatar> and snap shot
01:00:44 <Ballig> you wanted snap shot
01:00:47 <Ballig> that was actually your plan
01:00:50 <Avatar> I wanted improved snap shot
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01:01:05 <Ballig> and now your plan is "mobility I guess"
01:01:11 <Avatar> well I took dodge
01:01:15 <Avatar> so mobility is next
01:01:18 <Ballig> so now you're just choosing random feats
01:01:21 <Ballig> without any real goal
01:01:24 <Avatar> yeah
01:01:27 <Ballig> okay
01:01:33 <Avatar> I don't know, what should I pick
01:02:02 <Ballig> just close your eyes and choose randomly
01:02:39 <Avatar> mobility is better than a random feat
01:02:47 <Ballig> just barely
01:02:56 <Ballig> in that it's better than improved unarmed strike
01:03:02 <Avatar> well you're the one who's always saying +1 matters
01:03:28 <Ballig> you're not a melee focused character, you shouldn't be moving around when you are going to provoke
01:03:36 <Ballig> thinking that +4 AC will keep you safe will just get you killed
01:03:39 <Avatar> yeah but it's a pre-req
01:04:12 <Ballig> for parting shot?
01:04:26 <Ballig> shot on the run -> parting shot
01:04:36 <Ballig> that's a lont feat tree this late in your character's career
01:04:39 <Ballig> lont/long
01:04:53 <Avatar> yeah but I am getting a feat pretty much every level here
01:05:11 <Ballig> you're what? level 8 now?
01:05:13 <Avatar> I got one last level, I'm getting one now, I get another next level, I get another at 11th
01:05:21 <Avatar> yeah I will be 8 tomorrow if I play Buck
01:05:25 <Avatar> mid-tomorrow
01:05:29 <Ballig> so you will get parting shot at level 11
01:05:32 <Ballig> a level before your retirement
01:05:40 <Ballig> for the ability to shoot while withdrawing, once per encounter
01:05:41 <Avatar> well maybe
01:05:54 <Avatar> that feat is basically invincibility
01:06:06 <Ballig> it's a "oh shit" feat, usable once per encounter
01:06:08 <Avatar> it's the equivalent of a 20th level ability
01:06:14 <Ballig> it's really not
01:06:21 <Avatar> well ok what other feats
01:06:31 <Avatar> don't give me any of that choose a random feat crap
01:06:35 <Ballig> the level 20 ability I just read most recently was: Any attacks made with that weapon automatically conf irm
01:06:35 <Ballig> all critical threats and have their damage multiplier
01:06:35 <Ballig> increased by 1 (×2 becomes ×3, for example). In addition, he
01:06:35 <Ballig> cannot be disarmed while wielding a weapon of this type.
01:06:44 <Ballig> "ability to shoot while withdrawing, once per encounter" isn't even close to that
01:07:26 <Avatar> I wish you could look up feats based on pre-reqs
01:07:41 <Ballig> the actual rulebooks let you
01:07:59 <Avatar> what
01:08:01 <Avatar> no they don't
01:08:13 <Ballig> they're listed that way in the feats table
01:08:28 <Avatar> for one book
01:08:32 <Ballig> for all of them
01:08:39 <Avatar> no I mean
01:08:40 <Avatar> for THAT book
01:08:43 <Ballig> right
01:09:01 <Avatar> if I want to know what feats I can get with dodge under my belt in other books apart from core, I can't do it
01:09:43 <Avatar> I might take improved critical
01:09:52 <Avatar> I have been salivating over that for a while
01:09:54 <Ballig> it didn't stack with something else you got
01:10:14 <Avatar> it just means I can't use torso targetting anymore
01:10:20 <Avatar> but that has its disadvantages anyway
01:10:21 <Ballig> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/feat-tree
01:10:29 <Ballig> that's a feat tree for all books
01:11:21 <Avatar> thats what I'm after, thanks
01:11:33 <Ballig> I actually think Wind Stance might be better than parting shot
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01:11:43 <Ballig> but only if you moving on your mount is considered to trigger it
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01:12:40 <Avatar> it's only vs ranged attacks
01:12:51 <Avatar> I generally find 20% miss chance hits anyway
01:12:56 <Ballig> check lightning stance
01:12:58 <Avatar> 1 in 5 is pretty tough to catch
01:13:03 <Ballig> which is as deep as parting shot anyway
01:15:06 <Avatar> yeah lightning stance is good
01:15:16 <Ballig> 50%, and it's versus all attacks
01:15:27 <Avatar> yeah, if you double move or withdra
01:15:28 <Avatar> w
01:15:35 <Avatar> I'm juts thinking I hardly ever do that
01:15:43 <Ballig> then why are you going after parting shot
01:15:57 <Avatar> because I can kite with it
01:16:02 <Ballig> it's once per encounter
01:16:15 <Avatar> whatever
01:16:16 <Ballig> it's not a "ha ha, I'm going to do this all day and kill this thing" ability
01:16:22 <Avatar> I think I am going to take improved critical
01:16:24 <Ballig> it's a "oh shit, I'm in melee and I really don't want to be" ability
01:16:29 <Ballig> but so is lightning stance, but it's better
01:16:32 <Ballig> because you use it every time
01:16:38 <Avatar> that ability I've got
01:16:43 <Avatar> it only lets me use it on a standard action
01:16:46 <Ballig> you need to check up on what it is you get that doesn't stack with improved critical man
01:16:48 <Ballig> we already discussed that one
01:16:57 <Avatar> I know it doesn't stack
01:17:00 <Avatar> but it's still good
01:17:03 <Ballig> what ability was it?
01:17:10 <Avatar> targeting (torso)
01:17:21 <Avatar> I can only do one attack with that
01:17:27 <Ballig> one attack per what?
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01:17:33 <Avatar> with targetting
01:17:39 <Ballig> you mean it's a standard action?
01:17:43 <Avatar> yeah
01:17:53 <Avatar> improved critical would be on 3 attacks
01:17:56 <Avatar> or 4 if I'm hasted
01:18:02 <Avatar> hugely significant
01:18:03 <Ballig> or you could pay for it
01:18:11 <Avatar> I can't pay for it, it's holy now
01:18:15 <Ballig> I really don't see that making a critical 19-20 from 20 is worth a feat
01:18:17 <Ballig> when you could buy it with gold
01:18:19 <Osterguard> just quickly
01:18:22 <Ballig> you can still pay for it
01:18:23 <Avatar> the critical is x4
01:18:25 <Ballig> you can have more than one ability
01:18:29 <Osterguard> Nobody here is homophobic, right?
01:18:34 <Avatar> no
01:18:35 <Ballig> Avatar is
01:18:38 <Avatar> ballig is
01:18:40 <Osterguard> haha
01:18:41 <Ballig> don't believe him, he's homophobic
01:18:50 <Osterguard> >.>
01:18:55 <Osterguard> Not cool, avatar
01:18:56 <Ballig> we'd finished having sex once, right, and I tried to kiss him
01:18:59 <Avatar> Ballig: I can't afford a +5 bonus man
01:19:00 <Ballig> and he's like "what the fuck dude, I'm not a fag"
01:19:06 <Osterguard> haha
01:19:17 <Avatar> I'm broke today after buying holy
01:19:32 <Osterguard> Just making sure though
01:19:39 <Avatar> that 10-11 subtier got me just under 8000gp
01:19:41 <Ballig> keen is only +1
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01:19:54 <Ballig> in fact you could have gotten keen instead of holy
01:19:56 <Avatar> yeah how much is a +4 weapon
01:20:06 <Avatar> I need extra damage man
01:20:10 <Ballig> you cou ld have gotten keen and something else
01:20:20 <Ballig> you seriously undervalue feats
01:20:30 <Avatar> what feat should I get
01:20:36 <Avatar> lightning stance?
01:20:40 <Ballig> I'm not even going to give you more suggestions
01:20:46 <Ballig> because you are all like "nah, I am going to get parting shot"
01:20:51 <Ballig> or "nah, I am going to get improved critical"
01:20:54 <Avatar> I haven't even said that once
01:20:58 <Steven_> alright back
01:20:59 <Ballig> and then in three weeks you will bitch at me about taking a shit feat
01:21:01 <Ballig> like extra grit
01:21:03 <Steven_> i have hash and eggs
01:21:10 <Avatar> extra grit worked wonders tonight
01:21:11 <Steven_> i am happy
01:21:15 <Ballig> but it's been useless for 7 levels
01:21:24 <Avatar> until tonight !
01:21:32 <Ballig> that's 7 levels of a useless feat
01:21:35 <Avatar> funny story actually
01:21:40 <Avatar> I misfired today
01:21:45 <Avatar> and I had to quick clear my gun, a move action
01:21:49 <Ballig> you've bitched about it often enough for my argument to be valid
01:21:56 <Avatar> and I only had a standard action left, so I used my brand new torso targeting ability
01:22:03 <Avatar> announced "that means I crit on a 19-20"
01:22:07 <Avatar> rolled the dice, got a 19
01:22:21 <Ballig> now imagine if you made your weapon keen and did that all the time
01:22:23 <Avatar> I was thank god I misfired, or I wouldn't have done that
01:22:38 <Avatar> or I had improved crit on a holy weapon
01:23:33 <Steven_> oh hey ballig. chronical sheet
01:23:40 <Ballig> emailed it to you like 7 hours ago
01:23:51 <Steven_> kick ass
01:24:12 <Ballig> I'm not sure who to apply credit to for me
01:24:19 <Osterguard> I can't beleive that you didn't ask why I asked my question
01:24:20 <Ballig> Bobbob would get the biggest gold benefit, but I really don't like playing him anymore
01:24:27 <Ballig> because he does no damage compared to other characters of his level
01:24:40 <Ballig> Osterguard: we have enough life experience to know why you asked
01:24:45 <Osterguard> cool
01:24:49 <Osterguard> not gay
01:24:51 <Osterguard> bi
01:24:56 <Osterguard> Just so you know
01:24:56 <Avatar> how much damage does he do
01:25:07 <Avatar> 3d6+39 or something
01:25:09 <Avatar> ?
01:25:09 <Ballig> 3d6+33 if he gets to charge
01:25:15 <Ballig> which happens once an encounter maximum
01:25:35 <Avatar> you have rideby don't you
01:25:38 <Ballig> yes
01:25:45 <Ballig> you never ever get enough room to use it
01:25:47 <Avatar> do cavaliers rely on charge and not much else
01:25:49 <Ballig> in an area that isn't difficult terrain
01:25:52 <Ballig> right
01:26:01 <Avatar> that sucks a bit
01:26:10 <Avatar> who's your next preference in your characters
01:26:16 <Ballig> dunno
01:27:10 <Ballig> maybe samsuhn, though all his decent spells up to this level have required full rounds to cast
01:27:12 <Ballig> which are ridiculous
01:27:15 <Steven_> ahhhhhhhh yeah
01:27:35 <Steven_> 468gp
01:28:16 <Steven_> actual armor here i come!
01:29:58 <Steven_> although... i might just wait and get me some mithil armor so i can have bad ass armor
01:31:02 <Steven_> amazing!
01:31:06 <Steven_> sam just got up
01:31:14 <Steven_> and its only been like 6hr since she went to sleep
01:31:19 <Steven_> one momment, i have to tease her
01:33:26 <Steven_> i got punched
01:33:28 <Steven_> i deserved it though
01:33:46 <Ballig> hope it was in the face
01:33:55 <Steven_> no, she punched me in the chest
01:34:23 <Steven_> which isnt good for me, cause i have bad athsma, well it wouldnt be good for me if she didnt hit like a girl
01:34:39 <Steven_> punched again
01:34:40 <Steven_> arm this time
01:35:37 <Steven_> shes fun. When she came out of the bedroom i was like, god cant you clean yourself up before you come out? I thought the zombie apoc was upon us.
01:36:55 <Ballig> I've heard more witty banter from a a sheep carcass
01:36:56 <Ballig> :p
01:37:04 <Osterguard> really?
01:37:04 <Steven_> im sure
01:37:09 <Osterguard> What did it say?
01:37:27 <Steven_> sheep are whitty when you're 'helping' them through the fence
01:38:18 <Ballig> you would have to give a carcass a lot of help to get it through a fence
01:39:09 <Ballig> Osterguard: it said "bzzzzz bzz bzzzzz bzzz bzzz"
01:39:15 <Osterguard> Oh, okay
01:41:26 <Steven_> so...
01:41:31 <Steven_> anyways
01:44:12 <Steven_> im thinkin today. I'm going to relax to the max.
01:44:58 <Steven_> darn it
01:45:08 <Steven_> soon as i said it. sams like hey wanna go to my moms house
01:45:24 <Ballig> tell her to shut her mouth and get back to the kitchen
01:45:37 * Steven_ looks at sam.
01:45:43 <Steven_> No, i like my testicles.
01:45:46 <Ballig> do it
01:45:47 <Ballig> do it now
01:46:34 <Steven_> sorry ballig, im brave not stupid.
02:31:40 <Osterguard> So is the game same time tommorow?
02:33:13 <Osterguard> ballig?
02:33:36 <Osterguard> !roll 1d20+1 attack ballig.
02:33:43 <Osterguard> "Wake up!"
02:34:00 <Osterguard> !throw 1d20+1 attack
02:34:01 <diebot> Osterguard, attack: [1d20=12] 13
02:34:26 <Osterguard> OsterGuard slaps Ballig upside the head
02:34:43 <Osterguard> !throw 1d4+1 damage
02:34:43 <diebot> Osterguard, damage: [1d4=3] 4
02:35:17 <Osterguard> Osterguard's slap cracks tears Ballig's cheeck open
02:37:08 <Osterguard> Oops
02:37:18 <Osterguard> was going to say cracks skull
02:37:21 <Osterguard> but I changed it
02:38:43 <Osterguard> Ballig Avatar
02:43:42 <Osterguard> :(
03:33:11 <Steven_> oster you need somethinga/
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05:27:18 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuup
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07:18:42 <Mekkis> Avatar, can you please print my out my chronicle sheet for QTF3?
07:20:24 <Brunius_AFK> Mekkis: Yeah, I'll be there today
07:23:12 <Brunius_AFK> Leaving now
07:23:16 <Brunius_AFK> See you guys there
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07:52:02 <Avatar> Mekkis: on it
07:54:36 <Mekkis> thanks
20:37:18 <Jumpy14__> And I add a barbarians HD/get skills?
20:37:23 <Mort-> but you either choose wizard or barb
20:37:27 <Jumpy14__> I chose barb
20:37:32 <Mort-> unless youer halfelf, then you can choose both
20:37:35 <Ballig> right
20:37:36 <Mort-> which I dont think you are..
20:37:37 <Mort-> okay
20:37:46 <Mort-> so your level 1 you dont gain your level 1 skill/hp bonus
20:38:06 <Mort-> I have a halfelf on the table in the making for bru's campaign so..yeah I have 2 favoured classes
20:38:20 <Ballig> Jumpy14__: what's the ultimate plan for the character? what do you expect to be at level 5?
20:38:39 <Jumpy14__> Probably 2wiz/3barb
20:38:49 <Mort-> what do you intend to do with ..
20:38:51 <Mort-> that set up
20:38:53 <Ballig> keep in mind that if you wear armour as a wizard you have arcane spell failure
20:39:13 <Mort-> there is mithril chainshirt or something.
20:39:21 <Mort-> yadda, 10% spell failure only..
20:39:35 <Mort-> include mithril shieldurm.. not sure if barbarians use shields..
20:39:36 <Jumpy14__> Barbs wear only light armor, don't they?
20:39:39 <Mort-> no
20:39:41 <Mort-> they can wear medium
20:40:37 <Jumpy14__> He's going to start off more wizard and get more in barb later
20:40:51 <Mort-> Weapon and Armor Proficiency: A barbarian is proficient with all simple and martial weapons, light armor, medium armor, and shields (except tower shields).
20:40:56 <Mort-> how do you intend ot fight
20:40:57 <Jumpy14__> Actually, by lvl5, he'll probably have 3wiz/2barb
20:41:01 <Mort-> wear armor charge right in?
20:41:02 <Mort-> or?
20:41:16 <Ballig> if you're going to go more wizard than barbarian, you're probably better off taking wizard as your favoured class
20:41:30 <Mort-> point is what is he intending to do
20:41:31 <Mort-> exactly
20:41:33 <Mort-> thats the point.
20:41:41 <Jumpy14__> More wizard at start, develop into full barb at later lvls
20:41:49 <Mort-> why did you want to start wizard
20:41:50 <Mort-> anyway
20:41:52 <Mort-> reasons?
20:41:56 * Mort- ponders
20:42:00 <Jumpy14__> Backstory
20:42:20 <Mort-> k
20:42:24 <Mort-> feel free..
20:42:28 <Mort-> but your going barb with 9 str?
20:42:33 <Jumpy14__> I'd explain, but it'd take most of the enigma out of it
20:42:35 <Mort-> how do you intend to exactly hit someone
20:42:40 <Mort-> or are you using ranged weapons
20:42:45 <Jumpy14__> I get to increase some abilities later, right?
20:42:49 <Mort-> yes you do
20:42:56 <Jumpy14__> What lvls?
20:42:57 <Mort-> but even at 10 str its still a +0 to hit..
20:43:00 <Mort-> 4,8
20:43:05 <Mort-> forget 12, since by the time you get there
20:43:05 <Jumpy14__> Using ranged at start
20:43:07 <Mort-> game ends :P
20:43:07 <Mort-> k
20:43:18 <Jumpy14__> I might change my abilities around a bit
20:43:21 <Mort-> k
20:43:34 <Mort-> if you do want to melee its going to be interesting on 9/10 str
20:44:46 <Jumpy14__> Thing is, I want him to start small/weak, and develop into strong/big
20:45:02 <Jumpy14__> I might change it round a bit
20:45:05 <Mort-> okay
20:45:11 <Mort-> meleeing will be a pain in the arse though
20:45:16 * Mort- shruggies and wags her tail
20:47:15 * Jumpy142 wonders why Mort has a tail
20:47:21 <Mort-> becuase I am a lemur
20:47:25 * Mort- wags her tail more
20:47:52 <Jumpy142> ...?
20:47:58 <Mort-> I am a mouse lemur.
20:48:00 <Mort-> they have TAILS!
20:48:03 * Mort- wags hers happily
20:48:09 <Jumpy142> I'll take your word for it
20:48:12 <Mort-> k
20:48:25 <Jumpy142> Ballig: is Mort always like this?
20:48:33 <Ballig> yes
20:48:42 <Mort-> :(
20:48:44 <Mort-> whats wrong wif me..
20:48:49 <Jumpy142> sounds like fun :D
20:48:50 * Mort- pads around with her PAWS!
20:48:54 * Jumpy142 shakes his head
20:49:05 <Ballig> sup Joo
20:49:06 * Mort- steals all of Jumpy142's cookies
20:49:10 <Mort-> Yes. I am like this.
20:49:20 <Mort-> !roll 1d20+3 sleight of hand
20:49:20 <dicebot> Mort-, sleight of hand: [1d20=4] 7
20:49:23 <Mort-> ooops
20:49:29 <Mort-> probably..you noticed me frisking you
20:50:26 <Jumpy142> !roll 1d20+2 perception
20:50:26 <dicebot> Jumpy142, perception: [1d20=10] 12
20:50:31 <Jumpy142> think so
20:50:53 <Mort-> okay
20:51:01 <Mort-> so what are you doing to the mur who has been frisking you :P
20:51:10 <Ballig> taking her to the vet to be put down
20:51:14 <Mort-> NOoooo...
20:51:15 * Jumpy142 ties Mort up
20:51:18 <Mort-> dont do it!!!
20:51:20 <Jumpy142> with chains
20:51:25 <Ballig> sorry, you are a menace and probably have rabies
20:51:26 <Ballig> you are being put down
20:51:27 <Jumpy142> lots of chains
20:51:29 <Mort-> !roll 1d20+6 escape artist..
20:51:30 <dicebot> Mort-, escape artist..: [1d20=15] 21
20:51:35 <Jumpy142> damn
20:51:36 <Mort-> 20 + CMB of tyer..
20:51:38 <Mort-> probably wont work
20:51:42 <Mort-> lol
20:51:47 <Mort-> oh wait
20:51:49 <Mort-> CMDof tier
20:51:50 <Mort-> oay
20:51:54 <Jumpy142> ?
20:51:55 <Mort-> u bring me to the vet
20:52:01 <Mort-> I cant str check out of it
20:52:01 <Ballig> and you get put down
20:52:01 <Ballig> game over
20:52:03 <Mort-> lol :D
20:52:09 <Mort-> no more cookies..
20:52:09 <Mort-> :(
20:52:15 * Mort- forms herself into a ghost mur.
20:52:18 <Jumpy142> this game sounds like it's going to be fun :)
20:52:19 <Mort-> damn
20:52:23 <Mort-> NO COOKIES.
20:52:38 * Jumpy142 gives ghost mur ghost-cookies
20:52:43 * Mort- nibbles them
20:52:44 <Mort-> Coolio
20:53:18 <Jumpy142> they taste very bland because they're dead
20:53:21 <Mort-> its okay
20:53:27 <Mort-> I dont have sense of taste anyway..
20:53:30 <Mort-> :D
20:53:34 <Mort-> its the thought that counts..
20:53:35 <Mort-> :D
20:53:59 <Mort-> I miss hydra..sigh
20:54:23 <Jumpy142> ok, changed it a bit: now I'm at 16, 13, 14, 18, 7, 7
20:54:30 <Mort-> k
20:54:35 <Mort-> almost identical stats to khaz
20:54:41 <Mort-> except str and int swithced :P
20:54:42 <Jumpy142> lol
20:54:46 <Mort-> cons and dex switched
20:54:49 <Jumpy142> is that better for changing into barb later game?
20:54:55 <Mort-> probabably
20:55:06 <Mort-> if you want to be more barb you might even twant ot switch str and int
20:55:09 * Mort- shrugs
20:55:18 <Mort-> Im living with 18, 14, 13, 16, 7, 7
20:55:21 <Jumpy142> *sigh* now I gotta change all skill bonuses
20:55:58 <Mort-> Ive a feeling if I did it all over again I might have dropped str to 16, and not have negative on cha..but thats a different idea alltogether
20:56:01 <Mort-> different concept..
20:56:07 <Mort-> or not
20:56:08 <Mort-> maybe
20:56:09 <Mort-> well we'll see
20:56:20 <Mort-> many paths there are
20:56:31 <Jumpy142> Base attack is just str, right?
20:56:33 <Mort-> yes
20:57:08 <Jumpy142> what's CMD?
20:57:38 <Mort-> combat maneuver defence
20:57:44 <Mort-> str + dex + misc modifiers + base of 10
20:57:57 <Jumpy142> ok, so 14 is right for it?
20:58:02 <Jumpy142> with +3str and +1dex
20:58:04 <Mort-> used when people try to trip/grapple/disarm/sunder/whatever you
20:58:04 <Mort-> yes
20:58:15 <Mort-> happens pretty often especially on the front lines
20:58:19 <Mort-> or not.
20:58:24 <Mort-> acutally how many monsters grapple..
20:58:26 <Mort-> well some.
20:58:29 <Mort-> havent had one that tripped yet..
20:58:38 <Mort-> only have specialized trippers (PCs) around
20:58:42 <Jumpy142> how do crits work?
20:58:47 <Mort-> your oll your crit range
20:58:56 <Mort-> say you use a scimitar, your crit range is 18-20
20:59:01 <Mort-> !roll 1d20+6
20:59:02 <dicebot> Mort-, 1d20+6: [1d20=2] 8
20:59:10 <Mort-> the 1d20 = part
20:59:14 <Jumpy142> yeah
20:59:16 <Mort-> if its 18-20, you may crit
20:59:20 <Jumpy142> but what's the second roll for?
20:59:25 <Mort-> then you roll again, to see if you beat the creatures ac
20:59:28 <Mort-> if you dont, its a standard hit
20:59:30 <Mort-> if you do its a crit
20:59:32 <Ballig> !throw 15#1d20+lol
20:59:38 <Ballig> !roll 15#1d20+lol
20:59:38 <dicebot> Ballig, 1d20+lol: [1d20=5+lol] 5, [1d20=15+lol] 15, [1d20=15+lol] 15, [1d20=2+lol] 2, [1d20=2+lol] 2, [1d20=14+lol] 14, [1d20=18+lol] 18, [1d20=20+lol] 20, [1d20=14+lol] 14, [1d20=10+lol] 10, [1d20=8+lol] 8, [1d20=6+lol] 6, [1d20=3+lol] 3, [1d20=19+lol] 19, [1d20=10+lol] 10
20:59:40 <Mort-> do 2x-4x of normal damage
20:59:41 <Jumpy142> In 4e, if you roll a 20, you just do max damage
20:59:56 <Ballig> !roll 150#1d20
20:59:56 <dicebot> Ballig, 1d20: [1d20=4] 4, [1d20=2] 2, [1d20=19] 19, [1d20=18] 18, [1d20=1] 1, [1d20=2] 2, [1d20=2] 2, [1d20=5] 5, [1d20=11] 11, [1d20=4] 4, [1d20=6] 6, [1d20=11] 11, [1d20=2] 2, [1d20=13] 13, [1d20=13] 13, [1d20=16] 16, [1d20=14] 14, [1d20=9] 9, [1d20=9] 9, [1d20=4] 4, [1d20=10] 10, [1d20=6] 6, [1d20=9] 9, [1d20=15] 15, [1d20=7] 7, [1d20=15] 15, [1d20=4] 4, [1d20=15] 15, [1d20=3] 3, [1d20=19] 19, [1d20=7] 7, [1d20=4] 4, [1d20=20] 20, [1d20=2] 2, [1
20:59:59 <Mort-> depending on your weapon modifier..
21:00:12 <Mort-> some are 2x, some are 3x, some are 4x
21:00:21 <Ballig> !roll 1500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000#1d20
21:00:27 <Ballig> (that's going to make him die horribly)
21:00:28 <Jumpy142> and you just roll for damage?
21:00:35 <Jumpy142> oh dear, dicebot is dead
21:00:38 <Mort-> gah
21:00:49 <Mort-> you roll again
21:00:51 <Ballig> Mort-: some are 5x
21:00:56 <Mort-> bit hard
21:00:59 <Mort-> maybe if you are a weaponmaster
21:01:02 <Mort-> but only then..
21:01:05 <Jumpy142> oh, so you just roll for damage multiple times?
21:01:06 <Ballig> ha
21:01:11 <Ballig> yeah
21:01:19 <Jumpy142> kk
21:01:22 <Mort-> I know some of it
21:01:27 <Mort-> ballig I played a weaponmaster in nwn2
21:01:49 <Jumpy142> how do you do those things like @SneakDagger?
21:01:53 <Jumpy142> how do you program them?
21:02:03 <Jumpy142> and the @ini
21:02:29 <Mort-> hrm
21:02:39 <Mort-> weapon master doesnt move crit damage?
21:02:43 <Mort-> in nwn2 it did
21:02:45 <Ballig> it does
21:02:56 <Ballig> read to the end
21:03:02 <Mort-> At 13th level, when a weapon master confirms a critical hit with his chosen weapon, he can increase the weapon’s damage multiplier by +1 as an immediate action.
21:03:03 <Mort-> I see
21:03:14 <Ballig> what's that from
21:03:27 <Mort-> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/weapon-master
21:03:30 <Ballig> i assumed you meant weapon mastery from 20th level fighter
21:03:37 <Ballig> Weapon Mastery (Ex ) : At 20th level, a f ighter chooses
21:03:37 <Ballig> one weapon, such as the longsword, greataxe, or longbow.
21:03:37 <Ballig> Any attacks made with that weapon automatically conf irm
21:03:37 <Ballig> all critical threats and have their damage multiplier
21:03:37 <Ballig> increased by 1 (×2 becomes ×3, for example). In addition, he
21:03:37 <Ballig> cannot be disarmed while wielding a weapon of this type.
21:03:47 <Mort-> oh hahah
21:03:51 <Mort-> I was thiking of weaponmaster archtype
21:03:52 <Mort-> lol
21:04:21 <Mort-> you meanie
21:04:24 <Mort-> you chased dicebot away
21:04:58 <Mort-> meanie
21:05:02 <Mort-> dicebot, dont listen to ballig!
21:05:12 <Mort-> jumpy142.
21:05:15 <Mort-> u need to save the commands
21:05:23 <Jumpy142> how do?
21:05:37 <Mort-> use magic words
21:05:40 <Mort-> like this!
21:05:43 <Ballig> !save init 1d20+5 initiative
21:05:47 <Jumpy142> ah ok
21:05:47 <Ballig> er, one sec
21:06:03 <Ballig> !save init 1d20+5 initiative
21:06:03 <dicebot> Saving @init as: 1d20+5 initiative
21:06:05 <Ballig> @init
21:06:06 <dicebot> Ballig, initiative: [1d20=8] 13
21:06:11 <Jumpy142> cool
21:06:15 <Ballig> !clearall
21:06:16 <dicebot> Cleared all @commands
21:06:22 <Mort-> !save grapplinggnomes 1d20+5 to molest a gnome!
21:06:22 <dicebot> Saving @grapplinggnomes as: 1d20+5 to molest a gnome!
21:06:31 <Mort-> !@grapplinggnomes
21:06:35 <Mort-> @grapplinggnomes
21:06:35 <dicebot> Mort-, to molest a gnome!: [1d20=11] 16
21:06:37 * Mort- purrs
21:06:38 <Ballig> !clear grapplinggnomes
21:06:40 <Mort-> yeah thats how you do it
21:06:41 <Mort-> HEY
21:06:44 <Ballig> :)
21:06:46 <Mort-> all gnomes should be grappled!
21:07:01 <Mort-> its a pity I havent had any gnomes to grapple lately
21:07:05 <Mort-> oh shit. steven is here
21:07:09 <Mort-> hes going to kick my arse so hard...
21:07:09 <Mort-> hahah
21:07:22 <Mort-> ah heck. I fear not the consequences for saying I dont like gnomes.
21:07:30 <Mort-> (Everyone knows as a player I dont like gnomes)
21:07:32 <Jumpy142> it's the only part he can reach, right?
21:07:40 <Mort-> (I wouldnt say so)
21:07:46 <Mort-> I would be dead wihtout him
21:07:48 <Mort-> this scenario
21:07:50 <Mort-> truth
21:08:23 <Mort-> but its okay
21:08:27 <Mort-> player doesnt like gnome
21:08:28 <Mort-> s
21:08:31 <Mort-> I think the channel will laugh
21:08:33 <Mort-> if I ever roll a gnome
21:08:44 <Mort-> but I think if I were to feel like a small race, Id go halfling
21:09:16 <Mort-> not sure if I feel like a small race anytime soon though
21:09:55 <Mort-> why would anyone be a gnome..
21:09:59 <Mort-> though actually, once you get right down to it
21:10:03 <Mort-> I think I resemble a gnome.
21:10:05 <Mort-> quite some.
21:14:16 <Jumpy142> check out my character sheet? see if anything's wrong with it?
21:14:17 <Jumpy142> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=391
21:14:28 <Mort-> sigh
21:14:31 <Mort-> but Ill be at work tomororw
21:14:40 * Mort- mopes a little
21:15:23 <Mort-> you really want 7 wis
21:15:26 <Mort-> you wont change your mind?
21:15:31 <Mort-> it makes your will saves..bit quirky
21:15:48 <Mort-> well. Im living with it
21:30:01 <SpaceshotNote> Woo, almost died. Lvl 3 Ava in a 6-7 game is exciting to say the least
21:30:16 <Ballig> every one of the guys who played today were dying at some point
21:32:37 <Mort-> lol
21:32:56 <Mort-> at least youre rich
21:32:57 <Mort-> probably
21:34:14 <Mort-> dinner. popping off
21:49:14 <Mort-> Afk dinnering
22:08:29 <Jumpy142> !roll 1d20
22:08:30 <dicebot> Jumpy142, 1d20: [1d20=4] 4
22:08:40 <Mort-> K back
22:09:44 <Jumpy142> !roll 1d20+10 Insight
22:09:44 <dicebot> Jumpy142, Insight: [1d20=2] 12
22:11:07 <Ballig> one fish two fish
22:11:25 <Jumpy142> really? Fish? that's pretty horriblew
22:11:29 <Jumpy142> hi, anyway
22:12:08 <Jumpy142> Hey guys, this is Fish, he's my friend & wants to do it too
22:12:12 <Jumpy142> go easy on him
22:12:18 * Jumpy142 winks slyly
22:12:36 <Mort-> What?
22:12:48 * Mort- takes fishing rod out
22:12:54 <Mort-> :d
22:13:01 <Mort-> More bad jokes
22:13:08 * Fish fishplodes
22:13:11 <Jumpy142> Fish, do you have registered nick?
22:13:17 <Fish> yer
22:15:06 * Mort- twitches
22:15:13 <Mort-> Probably time for some fs
22:15:35 <Mort-> Ah well
22:15:36 <Jumpy142> Fish: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/newbie_guide.htm
22:15:49 * Mort- really misses hydra
22:18:37 <Jumpy142> Mort-: who is hydra?
22:19:04 <Mort-> Hydrazine :d
22:19:35 <Jumpy142> oh right
22:19:54 <Mort-> Yep!
22:20:07 * Mort- goes to become a bookmort
22:20:17 <Jumpy142> how do I register on this again?
22:20:26 <Jumpy142> I thought I had, but apparently I haven't...
22:21:32 <Mort-> Uh
22:21:41 <Mort-> Ballig?
22:21:44 <Mort-> Help?
22:21:55 <Ballig> what?
22:22:08 <Mort-> What was command to register Nick
22:22:11 <Ballig> you have registered
22:22:15 <Mort-> Jumpy needs
22:22:18 <Ballig> you need to /nickop identify PASSWORD
22:22:18 <Mort-> Not me!
22:22:21 <Ballig> where PASSWORD is your password
22:22:24 <Ballig> Mort-: I'm not talking about you
22:22:24 <Mort-> Dude
22:22:29 <Mort-> Oh
22:22:29 <Ballig> not talking about you
22:22:34 <Ballig> world doesn't revolve around mort :p
22:22:36 <Mort-> He said he wasn't registered!
22:22:40 <Ballig> but he is
22:22:41 <Jumpy142> apparently I haven't
22:22:44 * Mort- sulks
22:22:45 <Ballig> you have
22:22:47 <Mort-> You see?
22:22:58 <Mort-> He said that and i believed him!
22:23:08 <Mort-> I believe what people say!
22:23:10 <Fish> Jumpy, what client you using?
22:23:13 <Ballig> but you have to identify every time you sign in
22:23:19 <Jumpy142> hydraIRC
22:23:26 <Jumpy142> oh right, how do I do that>
22:23:58 <Ballig> by typing /nickop identify PASSWORD
22:24:19 <Mort-> /nickop identify yourpassword
22:24:44 <Jumpy142> I did that, so it should be registered now?
22:24:54 <Mort-> Try to pm me
22:25:20 <Mort-> Checked
22:25:24 <Mort-> Works
22:28:17 <Jumpy142> thannnks Ballig :D
22:28:27 <Jumpy142> how come I had no trouble PMing you?
22:28:57 <Ballig> because I turn mode -R off
22:29:04 <Ballig> I have a script that does it every time I sign on
22:29:16 <Ballig> /mode Jumpy142 -R
22:29:19 <Jumpy142> how do I do scripts?
22:29:21 <Ballig> would let people who aren't identified/registered message you
22:29:28 <Ballig> I've never used hydrairc, so I don't know
22:29:32 <Jumpy142> what do you use?
22:29:35 <Ballig> mIRC
22:29:53 <Jumpy142> I'll check it out
22:30:41 <Mort-> Andchat!
22:30:46 * Mort- raises paw
22:41:26 * Mort- fluffs
22:56:16 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 1pm (Ballig, new game) | PFS: Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | ED: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
22:56:16 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Sun Apr 1 19:01:50 2012
22:56:16 <***> Buffer Playback...
22:56:17 <***> Playback Complete.
22:56:18 <Mort-> Are you playing?
22:56:18 <Avatar> mekkis hsa been using itzamna or grolschmir
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22:56:25 <Avatar> he has a 9 but he's saving it for something I can't remember
22:56:33 <Avatar> he's actually using both characters like normal characters
22:56:41 <Mort-> What normal
22:56:45 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
22:56:47 <Avatar> instead of munchkinned ones
22:56:48 <Mort-> They are always normal
22:56:56 <Avatar> well i'm thinking more grolschmir
22:57:05 <Mort-> Most enemies can fly
22:57:18 <Avatar> but itzamna is a summoner so he sort of qualifies in my very loose definition that I'm using here
22:57:33 <Ballig> most enemies can fly? since when?
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22:57:47 <Mort-> Or whatever
22:57:48 <Avatar> I am seeing a fair amount of 3D combat
22:58:03 <Mekkis> really?
22:58:06 <Avatar> I wouldn't say "most"
22:58:31 <War_Wrecker> Just curious
22:58:36 <War_Wrecker> Are artificers silly?
22:58:49 <Mort-> They aren't allowed due to op reasons
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22:59:02 <War_Wrecker> Yeah that's what I thought
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22:59:23 <Mort-> Too over powered
22:59:55 <Mekkis> I only played Grolschmir once
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23:01:21 <Jumpy142> !roll 1d20+5 happiness to see dicebot
23:01:21 <dicebot> Jumpy142, happiness to see dicebot: [1d20=16] 21
23:01:26 <Avatar> yeah that was an incredibly scary game
23:01:28 <Jumpy142> YAY!!!
23:02:02 <Ballig> that's diebot, not dicebot
23:02:03 <diebot> accept no imitations
23:02:05 <Mort-> Ballig
23:02:09 <Mort-> What you ran today
23:02:17 <Mort-> I am bad with names
23:02:22 <Ballig> the frozen fingers of midnight
23:02:32 <Mort-> Ok
23:02:37 <Jumpy142> Ballig: oh well
23:02:50 <Jumpy142> Ballig: you killed him earlier anyway
23:02:52 <Mort-> Thx
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23:06:07 Jumpy142_ is now known as Jumpy142
23:06:19 <Avatar> arg I didn't level
23:06:21 <Avatar> one more scenario
23:06:42 <Avatar> so this morning/last night's panicky pre-level of Buck won't happen either
23:06:53 <Ballig> probably a good thing
23:06:56 <Ballig> you don't do well under pressure
23:06:58 <Avatar> yeah probably
23:07:06 <Avatar> I was going to go with improved critical
23:07:31 <Mort-> !roll 1d20+3
23:07:31 <dicebot> Mort-, 1d20+3: [1d20=17] 20
23:09:49 <Ballig> Mort-: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/evolved-familiar
23:10:06 <Mort-> Can't take
23:10:17 <Mort-> Don't have 13 cha
23:10:38 <Mort-> Knew about it ages ago
23:10:40 <Ballig> really
23:10:43 <Mort-> Yes
23:10:51 <Mort-> Both my characters don't
23:10:59 <Ballig> do you dump charisma all the time
23:11:03 <Mort-> I have some odd quirks
23:11:10 <Mort-> mort didn't dump everything
23:11:22 <Mort-> Actually mort didn't dump anything
23:11:37 <Mort-> And about cha. Magus is very mad
23:11:47 <Mekkis> it was fun pulling rank on all the andorans
23:11:48 <Mekkis> :)
23:11:49 <Mort-> To get something functional i sort of had to dump stats
23:12:05 <Mort-> Though if i did it over again i would probably do 16 str
23:12:18 <Mort-> And change something some where
23:12:19 <Avatar> yeah that was pretty unreal
23:12:27 <Avatar> except you need to know when to stop talking :P
23:12:29 <Mort-> Might be wis though
23:12:42 <Mekkis> perhaps
23:12:54 <Mort-> Or maybe i might go a different angle altogether
23:13:01 <Mort-> Maybe.
23:13:12 <Mort-> Won't make a difference.
23:13:26 <Mort-> Kendra didn't dump cha.
23:13:32 <Mort-> Duh sorc.
23:13:44 <Mort-> Grull didn't dump stat anything
23:14:30 <Mort-> How do ranks work
23:14:39 <Mort-> I can get a rank too?
23:15:00 <Mekkis> do you have 20 fame?
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23:15:35 <Mort-> 21
23:15:38 <Mort-> Actually
23:15:46 * Mort- fluffs her fur out
23:15:47 <Ballig> get the same rank as grolschmir
23:15:50 <Ballig> and then pull rank on him
23:16:12 <Mort-> Morts not a pretensious sort
23:16:25 <Mekkis> Mort-, do you really want to become a lance-corporal?
23:16:27 <Mort-> And doesn't mind being told what to do
23:16:40 <Mort-> What does it involve!
23:16:57 <Mort-> People giving me lots of chocolate chip cookies ?
23:17:01 <Mekkis> doing what Captain Grolschmir tells you to do :)
23:17:01 <Ballig> become a corporal instead
23:17:12 <Mort-> If I'm not.
23:17:21 <Mort-> Must i do it too?
23:17:31 <Mort-> But mort likes being told what to do.
23:17:36 <Ballig> he dumped EVERYTHING
23:17:43 <Mekkis> note to self: make arour glamoured
23:18:03 <Mort-> No?
23:18:04 <Mekkis> armour
23:18:17 <Mort-> Seriously doesn't make sense
23:18:21 <Mort-> Nothing below 10 except for int maybe
23:18:22 <Ballig> I bet Grull has 7 str, 7 dex, 7 con, 7 int, 7 wis, 7 cha
23:18:27 <Mort-> No
23:18:44 <Mekkis> they always try to attack the most heavily armoured people
23:19:00 <Mort-> 18 str 15 dex 13 cons 14 wis 9 int
23:19:05 <Mort-> 10 cha
23:19:05 <Mort-> Goody
23:19:06 <Mort-> I think
23:19:15 <Mekkis> or the least armoured people
23:19:17 <Mort-> Isn't it great i wear a chain shirt?
23:19:26 <Mort-> Least or most
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23:19:32 <Mort-> Make up your mind
23:19:33 <Ballig> can glamour make your full plate look like chain mail
23:19:41 <Mekkis> I think so
23:19:41 <Mort-> Its illusion
23:19:50 <Mort-> Unless they have true seeing
23:20:07 <Mort-> Do they hit the least armored
23:20:10 <Mort-> Or the most
23:20:11 <Ballig> it says normal set of clothing
23:20:14 <Ballig> so it doesn't seem to be possible
23:20:25 <Mekkis> no
23:20:46 <Ballig> Mort-: depends on the attacker, and what they're using
23:20:56 <Mort-> Great.
23:20:59 <Ballig> some of them are confident in their ability to hit and go for the most heavily armoured first, assuming that that person will also be the most dangerous in melee
23:21:15 <Ballig> or a spellcaster might cast on the most heavily armoured first
23:21:21 <Ballig> because it's more likely to affect them
23:21:28 <Ballig> ranged attackers will usually go after the least heavily armoured
23:21:33 <Mort-> If you are the middle?
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23:21:42 <Mort-> And they hit the monk
23:21:54 <Mort-> Or tried to. Since the monk had deflect arrows
23:21:55 <Mort-> Lol
23:21:59 <Mort-> That's a joke
23:22:24 <Mort-> Ranged archer tries to shoot monk and misses
23:22:25 <Mort-> Lol
23:22:33 <Mort-> You said least armor!
23:22:41 <Ballig> yeah it happens
23:23:02 <Spaceshot> heh
23:23:05 <Spaceshot> I hate devils
23:23:06 <Spaceshot> a lot
23:23:20 <Spaceshot> might have had something to do with me being level 3 in a teir 6-7
23:23:21 <Spaceshot> but still
23:23:30 <Mekkis> Mort managed!
23:23:35 <Mort-> Caster tries to dominate the inqusitor wearing plate because he took up heavy armor profeciency
23:23:40 <Mort-> I wasn't too useful
23:23:43 <Mort-> To be honest
23:23:45 <Mort-> Hid a lot
23:24:00 <Mort-> That's funny.
23:24:03 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: is your roc intelligent?
23:24:10 <Mort-> I bet he is
23:24:13 <Mekkis> not really. why?
23:24:29 <Spaceshot> is it intelligent enough to be dominated?
23:24:29 <Mort-> Socks is about as smart as ronal is
23:24:31 <Mort-> I think
23:24:38 <Mort-> Id say why not?
23:24:39 <Mekkis> sure....
23:25:02 <Spaceshot> then why didn't he dominate your roc, fly as far up as he could, then roll
23:25:04 <Spaceshot> to let you fall?
23:25:14 <Spaceshot> :P
23:25:18 <Mekkis> because, he didn't dominate anyone
23:25:19 <Mort-> He could have
23:25:32 <Mekkis> and regardless, don't spoil the scenario
23:25:40 <Mort-> And depends on type of domination used
23:25:40 <Spaceshot> just because he didn't succed on you AFTER you realised you had luck :P
23:25:55 <Mort-> Some stuff is human only
23:25:56 <Spaceshot> I don't even remember the scenario name (if I ever knew in the first place)
23:25:59 <Mekkis> he didn't dominate anyone
23:26:20 <Mekkis> he didn't try to dominate anyone
23:26:39 <Spaceshot> that's not what I heard from you coming in and saying "grolshmir is dominated"
23:26:53 <Spaceshot> :P
23:26:59 <Spaceshot> still no idea about context
23:27:07 <Mekkis> perhaps you've missed something :)
23:27:16 <Spaceshot> YOU WERE THE ONE WHO SAID IT
23:27:18 <Spaceshot> fuck
23:27:26 <Mekkis> I said "Grolschmir is dominated"
23:27:41 <Mekkis> not sure where you got the other stuff from
23:27:52 <Spaceshot> no I'm just saying what I would have done
23:27:59 <Mort-> I shouldn't hear anything
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23:28:10 <Spaceshot> haha
23:28:20 <Spaceshot> I don't even know what scenario, or when
23:28:21 <Spaceshot> :P
23:28:25 <Mekkis> that's because you're uninformed
23:28:33 <Spaceshot> it doesn't matter
23:28:37 <Spaceshot> you were dominated
23:28:52 <Spaceshot> I'm just saying what I would have done in that instance if I were able to dominate grolschmir
23:29:28 <Mekkis> Dominate Person is a 5th level spell, and Dominate Monster is a 9th level spell....
23:29:37 <Spaceshot> really?
23:29:43 <Spaceshot> bah
23:30:00 <Spaceshot> are you able to inflict self harm whilst you are dominated?
23:30:05 <Mekkis> no
23:30:22 <Spaceshot> how about doing something rediculously stupid that has a good chance of self harm?
23:30:37 <Mekkis> ridiculously?
23:31:06 <Mekkis> probably not.
23:31:09 <Spaceshot> fly up as high as you can (ordering your roc of course) and then dive bomb something practically directly bellow you whilst spinning
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23:32:38 <Spaceshot> but yes, domination in general is just funny
23:32:49 <Mekkis> only a dick would think that
23:33:06 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: that's funny coming from you
23:33:08 <Spaceshot> very
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23:36:36 <Mekkis> I take offence at that
23:37:22 <Avatar> cmon guys
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23:37:39 <Forevernade> hihi
23:37:45 <Mekkis> moin
23:37:45 <Avatar> well done
23:37:48 <Avatar> are you in australia?
23:37:50 <Mekkis> optus user :)
23:37:55 <Avatar> yes you are
23:38:04 <Forevernade> heh
23:38:11 <Forevernade> melbourne
23:38:15 <Mekkis> hey, you could be using an optus proxu
23:38:16 <Forevernade> clayton
23:38:22 <Forevernade> anyone near me?
23:38:27 <Avatar> st kilda
23:38:27 <Mekkis> Forevernade, come to Conquest tomorrow!
23:38:32 <Mekkis> Melbourne High School!
23:38:38 <Avatar> yeah we are in the middle of a long weekend con
23:38:40 <Forevernade> I should but I am working tomorrow
23:38:50 <Forevernade> and i didnt register
23:38:54 <Forevernade> so there wouldnt even be anything good
23:38:55 <Avatar> that sucks a bit
23:38:57 <Forevernade> for me to join
23:39:05 <Avatar> have you been working the entire long weekend
23:39:09 <Forevernade> nope
23:39:12 <Forevernade> family stuff today
23:39:14 <Avatar> should've joined a few days ago !
23:39:16 <Forevernade> party all yesterday
23:39:21 <Avatar> forget that stuff
23:39:22 <Forevernade> i should have gone yesterday actually
23:39:23 <Brunius_AFK> Mentlegen
23:39:25 <Avatar> you can be a pathfinder now
23:39:26 <Forevernade> i had time then
23:40:03 <Brunius_AFK> That was a pretty good day
23:40:15 <Brunius_AFK> If you'll excuse me, I have to virus scan this stupid thing
23:40:16 <Brunius_AFK> Later
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23:40:31 <Avatar> Forevernade: tkae a look at www.pfrpg.com.au, and click getting started
23:40:33 <Avatar> have a gander over that
23:40:39 <Mekkis> Itzamna has his rod of awesome!
23:41:26 <Forevernade> i am actually trying to make my own 'class creator' for pathfinder, or at least my simplified houserule version of pathfinder my friends play
23:41:35 <Forevernade> if anyone wants to have a looksee at it
23:41:38 <Forevernade> and give me some feedback
23:41:45 <Forevernade> it would be much appreciated
23:42:50 <Forevernade> there isnt much to read
23:43:29 <Avatar> I'd normally look, but not now after 14 odd hours of conning with an early start tomorrow for more conning
23:44:05 <Forevernade> ahk
23:44:07 <Forevernade> learn to sleep less
23:44:08 <Forevernade> haha
23:44:33 <Forevernade> i dont sleep much because i break my sleep up over several sleeps per day
23:44:51 <Forevernade> its a skill, i tell you
23:45:10 <Avatar> I usually do too
23:45:24 <Avatar> but not while I have to get to a con at 9am and finish up at 11
23:52:00 <Forevernade> is anyone in melbourne wanting to join a norse game setting that is starting in a week or two?
23:52:42 <Forevernade> if anyone is interested it will be run in the fashion of West Marches, which you can google
23:56:44 <Spaceshot> possibly
23:56:47 <Spaceshot> very possibly
23:56:49 <Avatar> are you running it online
23:56:55 <Spaceshot> I do love me a good viking campaign :P
23:57:57 <Spaceshot> owait... houserulling pathfinder for pathfinder noobs... this could get messy fast
23:58:52 <Forevernade> houserules dont change
23:58:55 <Forevernade> mostly deleting
23:58:58 <Forevernade> as i said im simplifying things
23:59:05 <Forevernade> and im running all changes by the players
23:59:14 <Spaceshot> why simplify?
23:59:18 <Forevernade> to make sure everyones happy
23:59:32 <Forevernade> because i like a fast running game
23:59:33 <Spaceshot> yea, that doesn't end up working so well (seriously, I've tried)
23:59:34 <Forevernade> its not online
23:59:36 <Mekkis> Forevernade, why not beginner box?
23:59:40 <Spaceshot> ...
23:59:46 <Forevernade> its at people's houses and universities
23:59:49 <Forevernade> organised on facebook
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