// #d&d — 2012-04-06
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00:00:02 <Steven> no i get a steady supply
00:00:06 <Spaceshot> Steven: you should get that checked
00:00:08 <Spaceshot> :P
00:00:20 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: I generally hate people
00:00:35 <Mekkis> that could be the underlying problem
00:00:37 <Steven> but im of the opinion if im not having sex like once every 4 hours im not getting it enough
00:00:46 <Spaceshot> it's up there
00:01:11 <Spaceshot> the missus is also up there in things that may require a change
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00:01:43 <Steven> ever try a mistress?
00:01:48 <Steven> i hear they work wonders
00:02:15 <Steven> I hope it doesnt snow again today, its like an hour and some change and then i gotta go help my dad, driving him down to lewiston today.... /snore
00:02:31 <Mekkis> I need to decide what books to take tomorrow
00:03:02 <Spaceshot> TAKE ALL THE BOOKS
00:03:13 <Spaceshot> *looks at books*
00:03:23 <Spaceshot> take... all the books? *whimper*
00:03:23 <Spaceshot> :P
00:03:40 <Spaceshot> Steven: this may confuse you, but I usually don't really care for sex and whatnot
00:04:16 <Steven> .....
00:04:32 <Steven> HAVE YOU TRIED A MISTRESS?!?!
00:05:00 <Spaceshot> you clearly need to hear my WTFLONG story
00:05:20 <Mekkis> should I bring my magic wand?
00:05:39 <Steven> i dont think theres anything in this world that would get me to swear off pussy
00:05:41 <Spaceshot> haha
00:05:53 <Steven> i dont care if god came down from heaven and said, Steve next time you get laid
00:05:54 <Spaceshot> bluewaffle?
00:05:56 <Steven> BOOM you dyin
00:06:21 <Steven> ide look at sam and be like honey im gonna die next time we have sex, how bout you make the next five minutes memorable
00:06:28 <Steven> lol
00:06:46 <Spaceshot> :P
00:07:03 <Spaceshot> it's not that I don't like it, I just don't want it every 5mins
00:07:23 <Steven> heres a great story
00:07:39 <Steven> so my friends, Sams friends, sam and myself
00:07:42 <Steven> all out to dinner
00:07:54 <Steven> her friends are talking about some emo shit
00:08:01 <Steven> my friends talking about video games
00:08:11 <Steven> one of her friends says something about viagra
00:08:15 <Ballig_> and you said "get your waffle pants on! we're going to play mini golf!"
00:08:33 <Steven> one my friends replies with how its amazing
00:08:36 <Spaceshot> Ballig_: you were clearly the other friend right?
00:08:43 <Steven> and you basically get to have sex for hours at a time
00:08:45 <Ballig_> it's true, I can't deny it
00:09:18 <Ballig_> putting that new motherboard/CPU/RAM in took way longer than I expected
00:09:20 <Steven> sams friend turns to sam and says that sounds crazy fun to me, how about you sam
00:09:27 <Steven> sam says we already do that
00:09:37 <Steven> the table goes silent
00:09:50 <Steven> my buddy rob pats me on the back and says atta boy steve atta boy
00:10:13 <Steven> only time in the last 4 years ive blushed
00:10:26 <Spaceshot> haha
00:10:38 <Spaceshot> yea, my stories are a fuckload more emo and depressive than yours
00:10:50 <Ballig_> I get hit on at work by women in their 60s, Idon't think it's possible for me to blush anymore
00:10:50 <Steven> ouch...
00:10:53 <Steven> i just got punched again
00:11:05 <Ballig_> yeah, you kind of deserved it though :p
00:11:09 <Spaceshot> haha, that's what you get for working in the government :P
00:11:12 <Steven> it was worth it
00:11:22 <Ballig_> I doubt your girlfriend appreciates sharing all your sexual escapades online
00:11:24 <Spaceshot> hey sam, punch him for the time he told us about the car blow
00:11:47 <Spaceshot> XD
00:12:13 <Steven> what the fuck dude
00:12:24 <Spaceshot> what, I can't bluff?
00:12:27 <Steven> you tryin to screw up my issue?
00:12:44 <Spaceshot> I could of said the dutch oven the other day, but that would just be nasty
00:12:45 <Ballig_> hey sam, Steve told us what you like to be called in bed
00:12:48 <Ballig_> yeah, that's right. THAT
00:13:04 <Steven> yeah shes not gonna believe that
00:13:08 <Steven> we dont have nicknames
00:13:16 <Steven> infact in bed i just call her by her full name
00:13:21 <Steven> Samantha
00:13:25 <Ballig_> middle name included?
00:13:49 <Steven> its cause the first time i called her sam while we were intimate
00:14:03 <Steven> i was like i cant do it, it feels wierd like im fuckin a dude when i call you sam
00:15:00 <Spaceshot> yea I really hate the nickname's my missus gives me
00:15:13 <Steven> Stretch Nuts?
00:15:38 <Spaceshot> it's like really cutesy names
00:15:41 <Ballig_> monkey love coconut?
00:15:51 <Mekkis> so glad I wrapped my alcohol so tightly
00:15:56 <Spaceshot> not gonna tell you, and I really doubt you'd ever get it
00:15:56 <Ballig_> mr snugglebottom?
00:16:02 <Mekkis> it seems like it leaked on the flight
00:16:20 <Ballig_> dr wigglepants?
00:16:35 <Steven> Captain Snickers of the HMS Disappointment?
00:16:43 <Ballig_> Alex?
00:16:45 <Mekkis> Steven, that's Avatar :)
00:17:08 <Mekkis> Brunius, you won't be at conquest tomorrow?
00:17:19 <Steven> space, you tell me yours and ill tell you sams for me
00:17:28 <Spaceshot> haha
00:17:48 <Ballig_> you'll just make it up, like "Admiral Amazing"
00:17:57 <Mekkis> "microsoft"
00:18:33 <Steven> no, mine doesnt have as much downtime as microsoft
00:18:49 <Mekkis> but is still micro and soft?
00:18:52 <Spaceshot> does it have random completion time though?
00:19:09 <Steven> no comment mekkis
00:20:51 <Steven> nobody could ever guess my nickname
00:20:54 <Steven> that sam calls me
00:21:16 <Spaceshot> same with mine, mine doesn't even make any sense, and I fucking hate it
00:21:23 <Spaceshot> but her calling me alex makes no sense anymore
00:21:25 <Steven> lets hear it!
00:21:25 <Ballig_> what is it
00:21:35 <Ballig_> did you change your name to raven
00:21:39 <Ballig_> or paine
00:21:50 <Spaceshot> nope
00:23:11 <Spaceshot> but yea, the missus is somewhat of one of my issues (been with her for over 5 years, it can happen)
00:23:14 <Steven> Gina McGinastien?
00:23:32 <Spaceshot> yes I know I'm 20, and yes I know I've missed a lot of shit I could of done XD
00:24:37 <Ballig_> probably not
00:24:41 <Steven> not really
00:24:47 <Steven> unless you count STDs
00:24:52 <Spaceshot> Ballig_: I'm from SA
00:25:09 <Spaceshot> there are many things I could have done, sure 90% of them involve drugs of one form of another
00:25:17 <Ballig_> or waking up in a bathtub full of ice with your left kidney missing
00:25:18 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, so my keyboard IS older that you!
00:25:36 <Ballig_> you're the only one who actually likes that keyboard
00:25:51 <Spaceshot> XD
00:26:02 <Mekkis> I'm the only one who types on it
00:26:19 <Ballig_> yes, but telling us how old it is doesn't make us like it any better
00:26:54 <Steven> seriously whats the nickname
00:27:23 <Ballig_> general snugglebuns
00:27:36 <Tashes_> i think its 'oi fucknuts'
00:27:40 <Ballig_> ha
00:27:44 <Ballig_> they are from adelaide after all
00:29:41 <Spaceshot> Tashes_: you're probably closest XD
00:30:06 <Tashes_> Oh good, i'm not right.
00:30:15 <Tashes_> i'd be a little sad if you had the same pet name as Hydra
00:30:27 <Ballig_> ha
00:30:43 <Ballig_> giving a great impression of Australian girls, eh Tashes :p
00:31:03 <Tashes_> Yus
00:31:18 <Spaceshot> XD
00:31:20 <Steven> who doesnt love australian girls
00:31:34 <Tashes_> ..other australian girls?
00:31:45 <Ballig_> some of them do
00:31:54 <Steven> are you implying there are no lesbians in australia?
00:32:12 <Ballig_> Australia is lesbian-free since '93
00:32:39 <Spaceshot> I knew a few
00:32:39 <Spaceshot> :P
00:32:47 <Spaceshot> in high school, and I even know where she works in adelaide
00:32:50 <Tashes_> nope. 'm implying that if you put two australian girls in a room together and shut the door for three weeks, when you come back there'll only be one.
00:32:52 <Spaceshot> in midwest XD
00:32:55 <Ballig_> they just told you that, Sppaceshot
00:33:08 <Ballig_> but really they loved guys
00:33:27 <Spaceshot> no... no
00:33:29 <Spaceshot> believe me
00:33:29 <Spaceshot> :P
00:33:33 <Spaceshot> dyking it up :P
00:33:40 <Ballig_> all for your benefit
00:33:56 <Spaceshot> probably, but you don't get know any of that story
00:34:14 <Ballig_> oh, I already know the story
00:34:16 <Ballig_> Ialready know it
00:34:20 <Spaceshot> I bet
00:34:38 <Spaceshot> btw steven, you getting any of my messages?
00:34:43 <Tashes_> Space knows all about it, because he was actually one of hte girls involved?
00:35:29 <Spaceshot> HOW DID YOU KNOW
00:35:41 <Steven> i never notice that thing
00:35:41 * Spaceshot removes manbeard and pretend package
00:36:01 * Tashes_ removes manbeard and pretend package
00:36:04 <Tashes_> BECAUSE I WAS HER!
00:36:10 <Spaceshot> OH DEAR GOD
00:36:13 <Spaceshot> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
00:36:36 <Ballig_> Ah, but...
00:36:41 * Ballig_ removes manbeard and pretend package
00:36:43 <Ballig_> Iwas also her!
00:36:56 <Ballig_> and I STILL AM!
00:37:31 <Steven> shit... just... got... real...
00:37:49 <Spaceshot> OH DEAR GOD
00:38:02 * Spaceshot is getting mindfucked
00:38:12 <Steven> wouldnt be the first time right?
00:38:34 <Ballig_> How will Spaceshot talk his way out of this one? Will Steven ever get his figure back? Is Tashes' manbeard really pretend? Find out next week on... Days of our D&D
00:40:02 * Steven Breaks in to the Fade Out
00:40:14 <Steven> FIGURE BACK! BITCH IM TOP SHELF!
00:42:10 <Ballig_> the top shelf is where they put all the crappy brands
00:42:16 <Ballig_> it's eyeline that you want to be
00:45:47 <Tashes_> I JUST GOT MY FIRST TAFE ASSESSMENT BACK
00:45:50 <Tashes_> FUCKIGN DISTICNTIONS YO
00:45:53 <Tashes_> I'M AMAZED
00:46:05 <Tashes_> and all caps and stuff.
00:46:07 <Ballig_> ha
00:46:41 <Tashes_> Its for a subject called 'promote team effectiveness' and i wrote it on the bus. About League of Legends.
00:46:43 <Ballig_> but can it run Crysis?
00:47:06 <Spaceshot> Tafe?
00:47:09 <Spaceshot> what you learnding?
00:47:15 <Tashes_> Business management
00:47:21 <Spaceshot> ahh
00:47:30 <Ballig_> she's going to manage all up in your face
00:47:31 <Spaceshot> to help forward your interprative acting career?
00:47:54 <Tashes_> No. To help forward my international employability
00:48:11 <Spaceshot> ahh
01:23:47 <Tashes_> " providing an opportunity for university graduates to give back to the institution and the community. "
01:23:53 <Tashes_> what's a better word to use for 'give back to'?
01:24:47 <Avatar> provide for
01:24:52 <Ballig_> reciprocate
01:25:55 <Avatar> I just found a character I don't remember creating
01:26:38 <Tashes_> See, i thought of those two. i didtn like eithe rof them.
01:26:43 <Tashes_> theres another word i just can't think of
01:26:56 <Avatar> what's wrong with give back to
01:27:20 <Tashes_> too many single syllable words in a row
01:27:36 <Tashes_> it doesnt sound right.
01:27:40 Tashes_ is now known as tashes
01:27:53 <Spaceshot> return?
01:31:01 <tashes> TO ADD TO!
01:31:11 <tashes> so simple.
01:31:14 <tashes> i need caffiene
01:31:16 <tashes> or alcoohl
01:31:24 <Avatar> isn't that a single syllable word
01:31:50 <tashes> yeah but its removing a single syllable word, too
01:47:35 <Avatar> got my character sheet down to 4 pages on paper
01:47:39 <Avatar> I think that's about as good as it's going to get
01:52:34 <Mort-> Wow
01:52:44 <Mort-> I'm trolling boards
01:52:58 <Avatar> wow
01:53:18 <Ballig_> wow
01:53:52 <Mort-> Oh god.
01:54:04 <Mort-> Balaar can see in the dark
01:54:42 <Ballig_> oh no
01:55:50 <Mort-> Why not
01:55:55 <Mort-> So will socks
01:56:13 <Ballig_> oh no! not socks!
01:57:17 <Mort-> Why?
01:58:13 <Spaceshot> wasn't your witch only 3 pages?
01:58:19 <Spaceshot> even though it was really really small font
01:58:22 <Spaceshot> but it was level 11
02:03:37 <Avatar> buck has a lot of misc bonuses
02:03:49 <Avatar> snickers' misc bonuses are one liners (hexes)
02:05:07 <Avatar> misc bonuses and boons
02:05:18 <Avatar> pregen snickers had no boons
02:06:24 <Ballig_> was pregen snickers a boy
02:06:39 <Avatar> no
02:06:53 <Ballig_> weird
02:07:28 <Spaceshot> Avatar: did you take signature spells from RPT?
02:07:28 <Ballig_> have to say I hate having to set up windows again after reinstalling
02:07:40 <Avatar> one signature spell
02:07:43 <Avatar> glitterdust
02:07:46 <Spaceshot> yea that
02:07:57 <Avatar> it's pretty hardcore, makes it DC 20
02:08:01 <Spaceshot> you do realise it doesn't improve DC
02:08:05 <Avatar> what
02:08:12 <Spaceshot> read it properly
02:08:31 <Spaceshot> it only improves CL for duration and level-based varables
02:08:37 <Avatar> is DC not a level based variable
02:08:41 <Spaceshot> nope
02:08:41 <Ballig_> no
02:08:54 <Ballig_> DC is based on the level of the spell (not the caster) and the caster's primary stat
02:09:05 <Avatar> shit
02:09:06 <Spaceshot> you might want change the signature spell :P
02:09:15 <Ballig_> if you never increase your primary stat, the DC will never go up
02:09:17 <Spaceshot> most damaging spells get a nice kick out of it
02:09:26 <Avatar> I don't have any damage spells
02:09:33 <Spaceshot> any buff spells?
02:09:39 <Spaceshot> that get bonuses per x levels?
02:09:55 <Avatar> nope
02:09:58 <Avatar> guess I could buy one
02:10:05 <Spaceshot> I might change to divine favour over create water (that was just for shits and giggles)
02:10:43 <Ballig_> it's for things like fireball
02:11:03 <Spaceshot> or divine favour
02:11:04 <Ballig_> where you do 1d6 per level, so at level 3 you do 3d6 damage. but with an ability that increases caste level, you might do 5d6 damage at level 3
02:11:10 <Spaceshot> or cure wounds
02:11:12 <Ballig_> I've never liked divine favour
02:11:18 <Ballig_> yeah, I'm just giving him an example man
02:11:22 <Spaceshot> yea
02:11:22 <Ballig_> don't need to list every spell it could benefit:p
02:11:29 <Spaceshot> basically, damage spells and buffs
02:11:36 <Spaceshot> debuffs don't really get any benefits
02:11:42 <Spaceshot> besides duration
02:11:57 <Avatar> there's not many spells I can apply it to
02:12:02 <Avatar> burning hands maybe
02:12:13 <Spaceshot> burning hands already has a low hardcap
02:13:02 <Spaceshot> cure mod?
02:13:27 <Spaceshot> or inflict mod if you ever party with my new oracle
02:13:40 <Avatar> or maybe mage armor for duration
02:13:56 <Spaceshot> enlarge/reduce is better for duration
02:14:31 <Avatar> I'll never need enlarge/reduce for more than 1 min/level
02:15:01 <Spaceshot> false life?
02:15:45 <Avatar> weak
02:17:01 <Avatar> even haste isn't worth it
02:17:03 <Spaceshot> daze monster?
02:17:11 <Spaceshot> Avatar: that's because you aren't a team player
02:17:27 <Avatar> it's 1 round/level
02:17:30 <Avatar> 5 rounds is plenty enough
02:18:14 <Spaceshot> you say that now
02:19:31 <Spaceshot> it just seems like a damage improver
02:20:51 <Avatar> glitterdust is probably as good a choice as any
02:21:29 <Avatar> short of maybe a cure spell
02:21:37 <Spaceshot> cure mod would be good
02:21:45 <Spaceshot> it becomes useless at CL9
02:21:49 <Spaceshot> but that's ages away
02:22:07 <Spaceshot> but think of a magus with that
02:22:11 <Spaceshot> shoving it on shocking grasp XD
02:27:37 <Mort-> They swear by it all of them
02:27:50 <Mort-> Supposedly. Ah well i don't think i will
02:27:52 <Avatar> maybe ear piercing scream
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02:30:54 <Avatar> that'll do
02:31:46 <Spaceshot> wow ragecasters are strong
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02:33:06 <Avatar> might get a rod of reach too
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02:33:15 <Avatar> I don't want to have to land to heal someone
02:33:24 <Spaceshot> they are good
02:33:54 <Avatar> I was trying to save money
02:33:56 <Avatar> but
02:34:06 <Avatar> maybe not worth it
02:37:48 <Avatar> <Ballig> What the hell are you meant to do in an RP situation when someone has newbie protection, so you can't actually attack them <Ballig> and they're a kobold, you're a paladin, and they're doing shit like emoting "charges you with their horns" <Ballig> it's like wtf? <Ballig> Right, I can either emote stupid shit back or walk away?
02:38:46 <Spaceshot> ???
02:38:52 <Spaceshot> wtf is that from?
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02:39:00 <Avatar> don't know, it's in my list of quotes
02:39:04 <Avatar> would've been from years ago
02:39:06 <Avatar> I don't even know what game
02:39:12 <Avatar> you can't play a kobold in UO
02:39:43 <Ballig_> it was some D&D 2e MUD I used to play
02:40:18 <Avatar> I remember trying to have conversations with people in the same room on muds when they'd walk in
02:40:25 <Avatar> and they'd listen and then walk away instead of replying
02:40:34 <Avatar> and they'd hover in and out of the room
02:40:40 <Ballig_> I wish I had walked away instead of replying, too
02:40:43 <Ballig_> oh, I wish
02:44:40 <Spaceshot> I am tempting to go beyond all want and make a gnome
02:44:48 <Avatar> make a halfling instead
02:44:59 <Spaceshot> halflings don't get pyromaniac
02:45:33 <Avatar> do gnomes
02:45:41 <Spaceshot> which increases the CL or effective level for any fire spell, or any spell-like ability from a shit ton of fire groups (fire domain, fire elemental bloodline, flame mystery)
02:45:46 <Spaceshot> which is the only reason I'd do it
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02:46:09 <Avatar> I don't know if that's worth it to play a race you don't like
02:46:22 <Spaceshot> I don't like them because they are bullshitly OP
02:46:30 <Spaceshot> I loved them when they were just fancy illusionists
02:46:33 <Avatar> then it's even worse
02:46:40 <Ballig> what makes them OP
02:47:02 <Avatar> he wants to play gnome because of pyromaniac [02:45] <Spaceshot> which increases the CL or effective level for any fire spell, or any spell-like ability from a shit ton of fire groups (fire domain, fire elemental bloodline, flame mystery)
02:47:02 <Avatar> [02:45] <Spaceshot> which is the only reason I'd do it
02:47:22 <Ballig> he hates them because they're OP but he wants to play them because they're OP?
02:47:23 <Avatar> but doesn't want to play a gnome because it's OP
02:47:47 <Spaceshot> no
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02:48:21 <Spaceshot> I want to play a gnome because they're the only race I've seen that has any form of pyromania/flamebuffing/OMGFIRE alternate racial
02:48:39 <Ballig> okay and why are they OP
02:49:38 <Spaceshot> Ballig: they're a small class that gives con (which everyone wants) and Cha(which half or so of the classes that don't mind being small want) and removes str(which practically anyone who wants to be small doesn't care about str)
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02:49:50 <Avatar> so play a halfling
02:50:01 <Spaceshot> ...
02:50:07 <Spaceshot> I don't think this guy reads :P
02:50:09 <Ballig> isn't half the reason that small is powerful is because you can use a mount more easily?
02:50:14 <Ballig> people who want to use a mount care about strength
02:50:17 <Spaceshot> that too
02:50:38 <Spaceshot> and no, I don't really care about the whole mounting thing
02:50:40 <Spaceshot> :P
02:50:52 <Spaceshot> but yes it's up there in why it's OP
02:50:54 <Ballig> then why else is small-size so powerful?
02:50:59 <Ballig> you can't have it both ways
02:51:10 <Ballig> "they don't care about strength, but they can be mounted! which helps with melee combat!"
02:51:19 <Spaceshot> you were the one pointing that part out
02:51:23 <Spaceshot> not me
02:51:39 <Ballig> then you need to give me alternate reasons why small is considered powerful
02:51:52 <Spaceshot> bonus to AC?
02:52:00 <Spaceshot> bonus to hit (which includes ranged)
02:52:03 <Ballig> penalty to CMD?
02:52:15 <Ballig> also CMB
02:52:19 <Spaceshot> if a small guy is in close, it's his fault for being in close
02:52:40 <Ballig> that's specious reasoning
02:52:45 <Spaceshot> races, like classes, aren't balanced equally
02:53:01 <Steven> bach
02:53:06 <Steven> i had to move some couches
02:53:10 <Spaceshot> ballig, in that same logic, I say dwarves make lousy sorcs
02:53:10 <Steven> soooooooooo stupid
02:53:19 <Spaceshot> 'but they can be sorcs'
02:53:25 <Spaceshot> blah blah blah I'm done
02:53:34 <Ballig> your arguments are weak
02:53:46 <Ballig> I think that humans are far more powerful than gnomes
02:53:56 <Ballig> they get to choose exactly where to add their stat bonuses, and they get a free feat
02:54:00 <Ballig> almost everyone wants extra feats
02:54:19 <Spaceshot> most people want feats yes
02:54:29 <Ballig> and then there's the extra skills
02:54:33 <Spaceshot> but many feats are spent to add improvements that gnomes can get for free
02:54:37 <Ballig> and gnome get, what? speak with animals 1/day?
02:54:38 <Spaceshot> meh, skill points are overrated
02:54:53 <Spaceshot> have you seen the gnome alternate racials?
02:55:01 <Ballig> I've never spent a feat to make improvements that gnomes get for free
02:55:02 <Ballig> ever, ever
02:55:05 <Ballig> ever
02:55:23 <Spaceshot> so you've never spent a feat to improve the DC of illusion spels?
02:55:26 <Spaceshot> spells*
02:55:28 <Ballig> nope
02:55:38 <Spaceshot> or to improve the CL of fire spells?
02:55:41 <Ballig> nope
02:55:42 <Steven> +2 perception?
02:55:48 <Ballig> never taken that as a feat either
02:55:54 <Spaceshot> or to improve the DC of language dependant spells?
02:55:57 <Ballig> nope
02:56:05 <Spaceshot> well that's just you
02:56:08 <Ballig> the closest you're going to get is "give you +1 to attack", but that's only if you ignore the type of modifier
02:56:16 <Ballig> pretty sure you need to change "many" to "some"
02:56:53 <Spaceshot> just because you aren't part of it, doesn't mean it needs to be changed
02:56:55 <Spaceshot> many doesn't mean all
02:57:01 <Spaceshot> also, I'm done
02:57:02 <Ballig> many is far too generous
02:57:04 <Spaceshot> you win
02:57:04 <Spaceshot> I lose
02:57:06 <Spaceshot> GGz
02:57:08 <Ballig> yes, you do lose
02:57:10 <Ballig> sucks to be you
02:57:12 <Spaceshot> good arguements/discusion
02:57:15 <Ballig> next time come up with better arguments
02:57:17 <Spaceshot> yes, it does suck to be me
02:57:18 <Spaceshot> you done?
02:57:21 <Ballig> nope
02:57:21 <Spaceshot> because I am
02:57:24 <Steven> im so confused
02:57:26 <Steven> whats goin on?
02:57:32 <Spaceshot> Steven: I've given up giving a fuck
02:57:33 <Ballig> he's trying to prove that gnomes are overpowered
02:57:36 <Ballig> because they are small
02:57:40 <Spaceshot> no I've stopped
02:57:47 <Spaceshot> believe me I don't give a fuck anymore
02:57:55 <Ballig> but he's focusing on the fact that they get +1 to attack/defence, but ignoring that they lose strength
02:58:02 <Ballig> saying that anyone who goes gnome doesn't care about strength
02:59:00 <Steven> gnomes? overpowered? sometimes?
02:59:17 <Ballig> gnomes can be fit for purpose, but that doesn't make them any more powerful than humans
02:59:33 <Ballig> I find the extra feat on humans and the flexibility to put increased stats where I want them makes me want to choose them far more often than gnome
03:00:05 <Steven> so...
03:00:20 <Steven> if you were playing a bard
03:00:39 <Ballig> as I said, they can be fit for purpose
03:00:43 <Ballig> but that doesn't make them overpowered
03:01:48 <Ballig> by the same token, half-orc barbarians are fit for purpose, elven wizards are fit for purpose, etc
03:02:02 <Steven> all the same to me
03:02:25 <Steven> the races all the same to me
03:02:51 <Steven> im going to go make a gnome barbarian
03:02:51 <Ballig> I have a gnome, an elf, and two humans
03:02:53 <Ballig> I actually regret the gnome
03:06:27 <Steven> yeah, making Folnors brother
03:06:38 <Steven> a gnome barbarian
03:07:43 <Steven> Folnor is about Knowledge and books
03:07:57 <Steven> Ronal will be about smashing things in the face!
03:08:14 <Ballig> I kind of want to make a bard or barbarian
03:09:42 <Avatar> hey there's a free weekend for SW:TOR this weekend
03:09:54 <Avatar> conquest is cancelled !!
03:09:56 <Steven> 14, 16, 14, 10, 10, 10
03:09:57 <Spaceshot> XD
03:10:02 <Spaceshot> that involves downloading it
03:10:08 <Spaceshot> which would take me the whole weekend :P
03:10:12 <Spaceshot> anywho, so going to bed now
03:10:14 <Avatar> I played in the beta, so not for me
03:10:25 <Spaceshot> should have been in bed 2hrs ago, at least that's what the missus wanted
03:10:32 <Avatar> sure she did
03:10:38 <Avatar> she probably said stay up as long as you like
03:10:46 <Steven> decent gnome barb
03:10:53 <Avatar> less you, more bedspace
03:11:18 <Spaceshot> we sleep in seperate beds (unilodge doesn't explain shit well)
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03:11:39 <Steven> or
03:11:53 <Steven> 18, 14, 12, 10, 10, 7
03:12:07 <Spaceshot> you need high con to be a barb
03:12:16 <Spaceshot> otherwise shit will hit the fan with your lack of rages
03:12:19 <Steven> im liking the 14/16/14 better
03:12:26 <Spaceshot> with 16dex?
03:12:34 <Steven> yeah buddy!
03:12:38 <Spaceshot> I'd prefer 14/14/16
03:12:41 <Spaceshot> you want the con for a barb
03:12:56 <kuniva> wat the fuck is this faggot channel
03:13:10 <kuniva> is this a channel for faggots or something?
03:13:11 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
03:13:15 <Spaceshot> XD
03:13:18 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@f0d29b27.iinet.net.au
03:13:19 Avatar has kicked kuniva from #d&d (come back, one year!)
03:13:23 <Spaceshot> didn't see that coming
03:13:28 <Ballig> ha
03:13:39 <Steven> should of let him stay
03:13:47 <Steven> i was about to say, it is now that your here
03:13:58 <Spaceshot> wow he's on some retarded channels
03:14:00 <Ballig> no use feeding trolls
03:14:08 <Avatar> yeah, they regenerate
03:14:12 <Avatar> ho ho ho ho
03:14:32 <Steven> but i like playing with trolls
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03:15:40 <Avatar> go chase him in #sdfdsfdslkj
03:15:49 <Steven> nah im good
03:15:56 <OsterGuard> Isn't it like 4am where you are?
03:15:58 <Steven> i only like playing with them when they come to me
03:16:23 <Steven> thinking of going 14/14/16/12/12/9
03:16:43 <DasBot> that's not the elite array
03:17:07 <Steven> because i dont want to min max all over the place, i prefer even builds
03:17:30 <Spaceshot> anywho, going to bed now
03:17:32 <Spaceshot> GTFO TIEM
03:17:42 <Steven> see ya man
03:17:44 <OsterGuard> night
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03:27:21 <OsterGuard> every time I get an email: "OOH! Maybe it's the Pandaria beta!"
03:27:38 <OsterGuard> Then it's wordpress or some shit.
03:27:41 <OsterGuard> :(
03:27:53 <OsterGuard> And that makes me a saaaaaaad panda.
03:27:53 <Steven> awwwwwww
03:28:00 <Steven> poor baby
03:28:15 <OsterGuard> I didn't make the connection when I was typing that
03:28:16 <OsterGuard> lol
03:28:23 <OsterGuard> I need a hug
03:28:26 <OsterGuard> :(
03:30:26 <Steven> oh yeah.... makin that barb
03:33:15 <Steven> Titan mauler!
03:33:55 <OsterGuard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeUGqeYsQg
03:34:02 <OsterGuard> relevant
03:38:31 <Avatar> I have more money than I thought
03:39:36 <Steven> always a good thing
03:39:40 <Steven> save it for diablo 3
03:40:02 <Avatar> on Snickers
03:40:05 <Steven> titan mauler seems.... complicated
03:40:10 <Avatar> if only I had more money in reality
03:40:41 <Steven> think imma just go with regular gnome barb
03:41:13 <Avatar> forget gnome
03:41:45 <Steven> nope, going gnome
03:41:50 <Steven> wont be able to talk me out of it
03:42:02 <Avatar> why
03:42:30 <DasBot> because gnomes rock
03:42:45 <Avatar> why do they rock
03:43:12 <OsterGuard> Diablo 3 will be awesome :D
03:43:21 <OsterGuard> CE all the way
03:43:39 <Steven> a month and 10 days
03:44:06 <DasBot> small and magical
03:44:32 <Avatar> on a barbarian
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04:04:30 <OsterGuard> Hey dicebot
04:04:39 <OsterGuard> how's it going?
04:05:02 <OsterGuard> !roll 1d20 dicebot response
04:05:02 <dicebot> OsterGuard, dicebot response: [1d20=14 dicebot response] 14
04:05:08 <OsterGuard> ayyyyyy
04:06:47 <Steven> im thinking scythe!
04:06:50 <Steven> for my weapon
04:07:33 <Avatar> I'm becoming a bit of a grand master of converting text character sheets into compressed page printables
04:07:42 <Avatar> work those columns
04:07:46 <Steven> cool
04:08:02 <Steven> im a bit of a grand master of Awesome
04:08:16 <Steven> and by bit i mean complete fuckin boss
04:08:20 <Avatar> are you mocking me
04:08:31 <Steven> i'm not sure... should i be?
04:09:30 <Steven> heavy pick?
04:10:25 <Steven> nah...
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04:10:43 <Steven> im kinda feeling a duel wielding bard for some wtf momments
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04:22:58 <Avatar> if I get stuck in a game with matt goodall, I might play Cairo
04:24:09 <Steven> what you talkin bout willis?
04:29:51 <Avatar> matt goodall is nicknamed killer matt
04:30:01 <Avatar> he finds ways to kill optimised players
04:30:27 <Avatar> and Cairo is a cleric that I don't particularly like
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04:35:23 <Steven> where are you playing with this guy at?
04:36:52 <Steven> and why would you kill somebody who likes killing characters?
04:38:15 <Avatar> conquest
04:38:20 <Avatar> my understand is he's a fair GM
04:38:25 <Avatar> understanding*
04:39:03 <Avatar> to say he likes killing character isn't accurate, so much as he likes making sure everyone is challenged
04:39:16 <Avatar> and challenged heavily if you're optimised
04:39:32 <Avatar> I don't know how, I haven't played with him
04:39:47 <DasBot> "this random encounter table indicates an avalanche.. save vs death or die instantly... those who make their saves take 3d20 damage"
04:39:48 <Avatar> I almost did one time and I got an opportunity to go to another room and quickly took it
04:40:01 <Avatar> brunius, tristen and mekkis have played with him
04:40:23 <Avatar> the thing is you can't do that kind of thing in PFS
04:40:26 <Avatar> so I'm not sure what he does
04:41:20 <Avatar> he wrote a scenario
04:41:28 <Avatar> and cult of the ebon destroyers, I think
04:48:42 <Steven> yeah he wrong ebon destroyers
04:49:02 <Steven> wrote even
04:50:25 <Steven> and i find that in PFS if you challenge an optimized player you usually end up killing one thats not optimized
05:09:52 <Steven> so um....
05:10:32 <Steven> With heirloom weapon
05:11:09 <Steven> if i were to later get that weapon changed into a Masterwork Weapon through the cleric spell
05:11:28 <Steven> do i still get the cool bonus?
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05:59:52 <Steven_> sup
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06:05:09 <Steven_> went and got xchat
06:06:54 <Steven_> BOOOOOOOOOOOOBS
06:07:05 <Steven_> yeah this is cool, i get to see myself talk
06:07:18 <Steven_> now i can have Ausk and Folnor in the same channel lol
06:07:32 Steven is now known as Ausk
06:10:38 <Steven_> bored...
06:10:43 <Steven_> why no body talkin?
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07:38:21 <Mekkis> Steven_, because it's early?
07:38:35 <Steven_> excuses excusese
07:39:48 <Mekkis> my laptop fan's stopped
07:39:49 <Mekkis> :S
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07:45:23 <Mekkis> Steven_, re: Heirloom Weapon. Currently, Probably Not
07:52:10 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 1pm (Ballig, new game) | PFS: Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | ED: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
07:52:10 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Sun Apr 1 19:01:50 2012
07:55:39 <Steven_> damn it my movie ended
07:55:43 <Steven_> now i gotta find something else to watch
07:55:48 <Mekkis> that's what they do
07:56:57 <Steven_> yeah, its like they are tv series
07:56:59 <Steven_> only shorter
07:57:04 <Steven_> and with better plot
07:58:52 <Steven_> I'm thinkin its time for some food
08:08:35 <Steven_> and now its time for some Samurai 7
08:16:07 <diebot> Added or updated sheets: 289 376 349
08:31:52 <Avatar> yeah I knew being awake at 4 was giong to be hazardous to my health
08:48:57 <Steven_> tinkering with my edh decks
08:51:01 <Steven_> fun fun fun
08:51:07 <Avatar> fun fun fun fun fun fun
08:51:38 <Steven_> sure is!
08:51:52 <Steven_> trying to make my blue white competative
08:56:07 <Steven_> 4 card slots to fill
08:59:43 <Avatar> I am running so late
09:01:11 <Steven_> need to find a way to tap and untap a creature
09:01:22 <Steven_> well mostly to untap a creature
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09:07:37 <Steven_> decided i need to pick up some prison term and things like it
09:08:38 <Steven_> no, ghostly prisim
09:22:14 <Hydrazine> Yo.
09:28:39 <Steven_> yo
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10:06:50 <Jumpy142> Morning all
10:07:04 <Avatar-> yo
10:07:26 <Avatar-> the 3 of us playing you only die twice, first up
10:07:42 <Avatar-> me with snickers
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10:16:38 <Avatar-> here comes trouble
10:18:44 <Ballig> trouble is mort's middle initial
10:18:54 <Ballig> that's right, she's so much trouble that that's just the /initial/
10:19:25 <Jumpy142> Trouble is just a single letter for Mort
10:21:34 <Ballig> you're a quick study, Jumpy142
10:21:41 <Ballig> takes most people a while to figure that out!
10:21:51 <Jumpy142> And I've only been here for a day!
10:22:52 <Ballig> have you played pathfinder before?
10:23:47 <Jumpy142> Nope, almost finished rolling up my first character. It's harder work than I thought
10:23:51 <Ballig> ha
10:28:38 <Jumpy142> So what's really the main difference between a familiar and a bound item?
10:28:54 <Jumpy142> What do bound items do?
10:29:04 <Hydrazine> Bound items? For wizards?
10:29:12 <Hydrazine> Howdy, Jumpy. Been reading up rules?
10:29:46 <Ballig> Jumpy142: familiars can give you some bonuses, and they can do some limited things in combat
10:29:48 <Jumpy142> A little
10:30:00 <Ballig> a bound item provides you a minor restriction (you have to wear or wield the bound item to cast spells, otherwise you make concentration checks)
10:30:05 <Jumpy142> I was thinking a toad, for the bonus hp
10:30:09 <Ballig> but once a day they let you cast a spell that you haven't prepared, as long as it's in your spellbook
10:30:39 <Jumpy142> Oh that's cool
10:30:41 <Avatar-> got a boon
10:30:47 <Ballig> what is it?
10:30:52 <Jumpy142> So it's just like preparing and extra spell?
10:31:05 <Avatar-> me and tristen, single use of a teamwork feat
10:31:06 <Ballig> Jumpy142: yeah,but you don't have to decide ahead of time what it will be
10:31:16 <Avatar-> good for us, but probably useless
10:31:19 <Ballig> so you can pull some super effective spell out of your ass that you would never have prepared
10:31:33 <Avatar-> doing you only die twice now
10:31:45 <Ballig> have you died yet
10:31:52 <Avatar-> low tier :(
10:31:56 <Avatar-> 5-9
10:31:57 <Jumpy142> Sweet. I might think about that. It can be like a ring or something can't it?
10:32:20 <Avatar-> haven't started, darkwhite is running around with boons
10:32:21 <Ballig> Jumpy142: yeah, or an amulet or whatever
10:32:50 <Jumpy142> Ballig: is that all it does though? No other bonuses or downsides?
10:32:59 <Ballig> as far as I'm aware
10:34:07 <Mort-> Only if someone is a dick
10:34:18 <Mort-> And sunders it
10:34:29 <Jumpy142> That would be a dick move
10:34:37 <Mort-> The problem is you have to figure which item it is first
10:34:51 <Mort-> Most do it on amulet/ring
10:34:54 <Jumpy142> I'll have a ring
10:35:04 <Jumpy142> A toe ring
10:35:28 <Mort-> Only fingers allowed for sing
10:35:39 <Mort-> Ring
10:35:40 <Mort-> One finger per hand
10:35:59 <Jumpy142> Sing?
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10:36:32 <Ballig> if a bonded item is damaged it is restored to full hit points the next time you prepare your spells
10:36:34 <Jumpy142> Oh right
10:36:39 <Ballig> if it's destroyed you can replace it for 200gp per wizard level
10:36:47 <Jumpy142> Yeah I know about that
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10:37:07 <Mort-> Yeah you'll have some problems casting
10:37:13 <Mort-> If your item is gone
10:37:20 <Jumpy142> So you're saying I can't have a toe ring? :(
10:37:22 <Mort-> Should it be stolen or whatever
10:37:38 <Mort-> You wear it on your hand and it takes a ring slot
10:37:54 <Mort-> No toe rings
10:38:11 <Jumpy142> Ehh, I think I'll just keep my Toadie
10:38:18 <Mort-> I recommend not weapon because you sometimes may have to swop weapons
10:38:22 <Jumpy142> I'm creative at naming
10:38:41 <Mort-> So far no one has gotten their stuff disarmed or sundered
10:39:03 <Jumpy142> How long have you been playing?
10:39:51 <Hydrazine> So I won't be around tomorrow.
10:40:10 <Mort-> Ah i see
10:40:10 <Hydrazine> I am visiting my uncle. For the first time in uh. About 13 years.
10:40:51 <Jumpy142> How come so long?
10:41:04 <Mort-> Wow
10:41:06 <Hydrazine> they moved away, I joined the military.
10:41:17 <Mort-> Have a nice time hydra!
10:41:17 <Mort-> Does he have kids?
10:41:19 <Hydrazine> Me and my father are going. We're just starting to really talk again, me and dad.
10:41:34 <Mort-> Oh
10:41:34 <Hydrazine> Um. I think so. But I'm not entirely sure which of my cousins are his kids.
10:41:48 <Mort-> You can play with the kids!
10:41:55 <Hydrazine> lolkids.
10:42:01 <Hydrazine> They should be more like my age.
10:42:04 <Jumpy142> I love playing with kids!
10:42:23 <Hydrazine> I know I'm the eldest by a couple years, but they're next I think.
10:42:25 <Mort-> Whip out the dnd set
10:42:28 <Mort-> Lol
10:42:35 <Mort-> Hm
10:42:49 <Mort-> What should i give to my mother in law in Italy?
10:42:59 <Mort-> We are shopping today
10:43:01 <Mort-> And tomorrow
10:43:04 <Jumpy142> A bobcat
10:43:09 <Jumpy142> (live)
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10:44:09 <Steven_> what up
10:44:55 <Brunius> Mekkis/Avatar: Could you check if the stalls (they do have trader stalls, right?) sell Dark Ascension boosters?
10:45:00 <Mort-> No
10:45:14 <Mort-> Souvenirs
10:46:22 <Steven_> wait what up?
10:46:36 <Steven_> why you looking for dark ascension brunius?
10:46:37 <Hydrazine> Yo face.
10:47:07 <Brunius> In a draft on the 12th, the guy is buying all the boosters on the saturday, but I can't talk to one of the guys until sunday
10:47:30 <Brunius> So if that guy (sunday guy) is up for it, I'll have to buy some boosters on the sunday
10:47:46 <Steven_> no other shops in the area?
10:48:06 <Brunius> Not that I can get to on the Sunday
10:48:18 <Brunius> I'm not sure if my newsagent sells MTG stuff
10:48:22 <Brunius> They do sell yugioh
10:50:48 <Brunius> To the internets!
10:51:00 <Steven_> the interwebs?
11:00:26 <Jumpy142> Trollandtoad.com Best site for buying cards
11:25:03 <Brunius> http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/internet-memes-rude.jpg
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11:27:11 <Hydrazine> howdy Oster.
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11:28:31 <Brunius> I've been connected to IRC for 3002 hours...
11:28:52 <Jumpy142> Brunius: goddamn that would hurt
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11:29:22 <Mort-> Leaving the house in 1h
11:29:22 <Brunius> onoz
11:29:45 <Jumpy142> 125 days...
11:30:09 <Jumpy142> Do you never turn your computer off?
11:30:18 <Brunius> Oh, that's total
11:30:26 <Brunius> Current is 7 hours
11:30:34 <Brunius> I nearly never turn my computer off
11:30:49 <Brunius> I'm checking how long it'll take this HDD to fail
11:31:02 <Brunius> It might be an enterprise drive :S
11:31:10 <OsterGuard> :O
11:31:15 <OsterGuard> Fallout 1 is free
11:31:23 <Brunius> I might try it then
11:31:29 <Jumpy142> I found the disc for it once
11:31:39 <Jumpy142> Wouldn't run on my comp because it was too old
11:31:52 <OsterGuard> You want a link?
11:31:57 <Brunius> Sure
11:32:30 <OsterGuard> http://www.gog.com/gamecard/fallout
11:32:36 <OsterGuard> Just need an account
11:32:56 <Brunius> Cheers
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11:35:24 <OsterGuard> That was quick
11:35:38 <OsterGuard> Decided you didn't feel like a tail, after all?
11:35:39 <Mort-> Wuh!
11:35:58 <Mort-> My current nick is registered
11:36:19 <Mort-> It means i can whisper evil stuff in your ear without anyone knowing
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11:36:53 <Mort-> Get it,
11:36:55 <Mort-> ?
11:37:05 <Mort-> And no one will be any wires
11:37:08 <Mort-> Wiser
11:37:34 <OsterGuard> haha
11:37:43 <OsterGuard> I can't reply
11:38:06 <OsterGuard> How do I register my nickname?
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11:38:38 <Hydrazine> So..
11:38:50 <Ballig> OsterGuard: /nickop register <password> <email>
11:38:56 <Hydrazine> If I cast deeper darkness on rock A. And Daylight on rock B.
11:38:57 <Mort-> Ah
11:39:00 <OsterGuard> thanks
11:39:09 <Hydrazine> And I put these rocks 20ft apart.. whats the light level?
11:39:17 <Mort-> Normal light conditions prevail
11:39:25 <OsterGuard> I do this in this chat?
11:39:25 <Ballig> it'll be the same as it was before within the areas that they overlap
11:39:28 <Mort-> The problem is that rock b is not a rock
11:39:48 <Ballig> OsterGuard: probably do it from the status window
11:39:52 <Mort-> But a nasty monster in disguise who has deeper darkness at will
11:40:02 <Mort-> Sorry make it rock a
11:40:03 <OsterGuard> where's the status window?
11:40:15 <Mort-> So he tosses out another. Now where were we again
11:40:29 <Ballig> what program do you use
11:41:33 <Mort-> Seeing nothing in front of you
11:41:36 <Hydrazine> it doesn't matter, mort, unless he does it on the item daylight is on.
11:41:37 <Steven_> alright im back
11:41:41 <Steven_> with awesome news
11:41:44 <Steven_> about a spider
11:41:56 <Steven_> called the Brazillian Wandering Spider
11:42:08 <Hydrazine> him casting it again doesn't stack, Mort.
11:42:11 <Steven_> its venom causes pain, sterility, and a boner
11:42:26 <Ballig> Steven_: the banana spider?
11:42:38 <Mort-> It doesn't?
11:42:38 <Mort-> Excellent
11:42:46 <Mort-> So i hide behind you as your living torch
11:43:38 <Steven_> yes, the banana spider
11:43:38 <Ballig> don't think they need to touch you
11:43:47 <Ballig> Steven_: the fact that they hide in bananas scares me more than the eternal boner
11:44:22 <Spaceshot> :P
11:44:30 <Steven_> there are two types of 'banana' spider
11:44:36 <Steven_> one of them is actually harmless
11:44:44 <Spaceshot> anyone dibs-ed GMing today?
11:44:52 <Ballig> I've heard some horror stories about the brazillian wandering spiders
11:44:58 <Ballig> bursting out of a bunch of bananas
11:44:59 <Steven_> yeah, me too
11:45:04 <Ballig> Spaceshot: nope
11:45:20 <Steven_> which is why i make sure i only buy one or two bananas at a time
11:45:41 <Ballig> ha
11:45:50 <Spaceshot> well I'm thinking FS1 soon
11:46:22 <OsterGuard> Oh, sorry. I use Colloquy
11:46:22 <Steven_> or i buy bananas that arent from south america
11:46:39 <Steven_> FS1?
11:46:44 <Spaceshot> ....
11:46:46 <Spaceshot> first steps 1
11:46:49 <Ballig> my workmate is from south america, his stories scare me
11:47:25 <Mort-> Not playing today
11:47:30 <Mort-> Out in 45 min
11:49:18 <Spaceshot> well it'd be good for OsterGuard and Jumpy142
11:49:26 <Spaceshot> since I think both of them have finished PFS characters
11:49:29 <Spaceshot> or close enough to being finished
11:49:44 <Jumpy142> Not quite, still have equipment
11:50:01 <Jumpy142> And, what are they called, legacies?
11:50:07 <Spaceshot> traits
11:50:09 <Mort-> Cookies!
11:50:14 <Mort-> Don't forget the cookies!
11:50:16 <Steven_> cookies are good
11:50:16 <Jumpy142> Yeah that's the one
11:50:22 <Steven_> i bought some for sam today
11:50:28 <Steven_> aparantly she is having a rough day at work
11:50:30 <Mort-> Always carry chocolate chip cookies with you
11:50:31 <Spaceshot> and a wizard doesn't need much equipment
11:50:32 <Steven_> her boss yelled at her
11:50:36 <Spaceshot> spell component pouch, range weapon
11:50:36 <Spaceshot> XD
11:50:55 <Spaceshot> actually, you don't really need a range weapon anymore, because cantrips are castable all the time now
11:51:02 <Jumpy142> I'll get round to finishing soon, not really in a position to move
11:51:29 <Steven_> Jumpy, did you look at your granted abilities from Evocation school?
11:51:34 <Spaceshot> would you be able to play in about an hr?
11:51:43 <Jumpy142> Probably yes
11:51:50 <Jumpy142> Steven_: no, what are they?
11:52:09 <Steven_> well... i suggest going and looking them up
11:52:28 <Steven_> its your character, you gotta research it mang!
11:52:37 <Jumpy142> Yeah, I know
11:53:19 <Jumpy142> Steven_: I would go check now, but I've sorta got a dog asleep on my chest
11:53:43 <Steven_> thats not my problem?
11:53:51 <Steven_> if you can type, you can read d20 right?
11:54:05 <Jumpy142> I'm on my phone
11:54:16 <Jumpy142> It's in my laptop, which is upstairs
11:54:29 <Steven_> FAILBOAT!
11:55:21 <Steven_> there are just some random abilities youg et
11:55:36 <Steven_> like making your evocation spells hit for more damage
11:55:51 <Jumpy142> Ok, I'm checking now
11:56:09 <Mort-> Evokers ><
11:56:16 * Mort- turns nose up :p
11:56:47 <Steven_> hey mort
11:56:48 <Brunius> Your an evoker
11:56:49 <Steven_> check this out
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11:57:14 Steven is now known as Ausk
11:57:29 <Ausk> Hey little one!
11:57:41 <Jumpy142> Brb
11:57:43 <Steven_> i finally went and got a client
11:57:45 <Mort-> I'm not little
11:57:56 <Ausk> bwahahahaha
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11:58:02 <Spaceshot> wow... it's going to take me an hr to download FS1 from my pc
11:58:05 <Mort-> I'm 6 ft tall
11:58:06 <Spaceshot> my phone is probably faster
11:58:12 <Mort-> I'm taller then you!
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11:58:44 <Ausk> !throw 1d20+38 Intimidation: What did you say?!?
11:58:44 <[1]Jumpy142> back
11:58:44 <diebot> Ausk, Intimidation: What did you say?!?: [1d20=20] 58
11:59:11 <Mort-> Uh ok your a big one!
11:59:22 <Spaceshot> that [1] in front of your name makes tab completion a bitch :P
11:59:32 <Mort-> You know you don't look very nice
11:59:33 <Brunius> So don't tab complete
11:59:36 <Mort-> Ill be off now!
11:59:42 <[1]Jumpy142> bye
11:59:53 <Steven_> Dont you know Ausk is sensative about his Height?
12:00:12 <Spaceshot> why so small? :P
12:00:17 <Mort-> You should have no reason to be
12:00:18 <Ausk> Yeah! Wait... what? I am not!
12:00:32 <Mort-> Because you could have been taller
12:00:46 <Ausk> anyways logging off
12:00:48 <Mort-> Like khaz is pretty skinny for a guy with 18 str
12:00:50 <Mort-> Lol
12:00:58 <Mort-> Its a funny jokf
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12:01:10 <Steven_> no ausk is supposed to be short
12:01:15 <Steven_> he is like 5'6"
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12:01:45 <Steven_> and he got picked on for it in the orc camp?
12:02:01 <Jumpy142> there, no more number. happy?
12:02:05 <Steven_> i dont know if orc compounds would be called compounds, camps, bunds, villages
12:02:11 <Steven_> or what
12:02:23 <Steven_> but yeah, Ausk got picked on, so he left
12:02:29 <Hydrazine> Aww.
12:02:32 <Hydrazine> Poor Ausk.
12:02:37 <Steven_> after killing the chief
12:02:40 <Spaceshot> I think arenas :P
12:02:42 <Steven_> for callin him short stack
12:03:09 <Jumpy142> lol nice
12:03:34 <Jumpy142> ah ok, so I get to add 1/2 my level to damage done by evocation spells. nice.
12:03:51 <Hydrazine> Sauceror?
12:03:54 <Steven_> there are other abilities you could pick, you coudl pick a subschool of evocation
12:04:16 <Jumpy142> and also get 3+int attacks that hit automatically for 1d4 per day
12:04:22 <Jumpy142> are there?
12:04:30 <Mort-> Half point of damage
12:04:32 <Jumpy142> where do I find this?
12:04:32 <Mort-> Per level
12:05:07 <Jumpy142> any suggestions for traits?
12:05:10 <Spaceshot> Steven_: don't confuse the lad
12:05:20 <Steven_> no confusion is best!
12:05:23 <Brunius> Reactionary
12:05:24 <Mort-> More cookies!
12:05:25 <Brunius> +2 to init
12:05:39 <Steven_> anyways imma go check to see if ive dont first steps
12:05:41 <Jumpy142> ok
12:05:43 <Spaceshot> have you chosen a faction?
12:05:56 <Spaceshot> Steven_: you can always do first steps
12:05:57 <Jumpy142> The Lantern one
12:06:02 <Spaceshot> 1-3, as many times as you want, all for credit
12:06:13 <Spaceshot> just only once per character, and must be level 1 to do it :P
12:06:26 <Spaceshot> well Jumpy142, check their traits in the guide
12:06:30 <Spaceshot> they might have something you want
12:06:44 <Jumpy142> ok
12:07:01 <Jumpy142> which guide, the one from Paizo?
12:07:14 <Spaceshot> yea
12:07:15 <Jumpy142> or http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits
12:07:19 <Spaceshot> the guide to organised play
12:07:49 <Spaceshot> well, that page also has the traits, but the guide to organised play will be easier to look through for faction traits
12:07:49 <Steven_> alright, so time to upload a new char then i guess
12:08:13 <Spaceshot> your oracle?
12:08:14 <Jumpy142> oh right this one
12:08:26 <Steven_> nope, my gnome barbarian
12:08:30 <Spaceshot> haha
12:08:36 <Spaceshot> get cracking
12:08:48 <Steven_> Its Folnor's older brother!
12:09:39 <Jumpy142> I'll get Storyteller trait
12:09:43 <Steven_> where Folnor is about books and learning, Ronal is all about breaking things first
12:10:08 <Jumpy142> I get a bonus 3+int to a knowledge check, once per scenario
12:10:10 <Steven_> Traits, Excitable and Devotee of the green, because he is a bit of a wild child
12:10:35 <Spaceshot> you gnomes
12:10:50 <Steven_> yeah..... we have fun
12:10:59 <Steven_> 16 hp at first level
12:11:14 <Steven_> w/o the favored cause i picked still point
12:11:41 <Jumpy142> so to get hp, I roll a d6 and add con?
12:11:53 <Steven_> first level you get max
12:11:59 <Mort-> You get max hp
12:12:00 <Jumpy142> ah ok
12:12:02 <Mort-> On first level
12:12:07 <Jumpy142> so 8?
12:12:09 <Mort-> Add your con to it
12:12:10 <Steven_> so 6+con
12:12:18 <Steven_> plus favored
12:12:22 <Mort-> And favored class hp
12:12:24 <Steven_> unless you want skill point
12:12:26 <Mort-> If you so choose
12:12:27 <Jumpy142> whats favoured?
12:12:31 <Steven_> which is not a good idea at first level
12:12:34 <Steven_> for a wizard
12:12:40 <Brunius> You get a favored class
12:12:44 <Brunius> Which you're better at
12:12:57 <Jumpy142> aren't I a wizard?
12:13:00 <Brunius> And every time you take a level in that class, you get a bonus of some type
12:13:11 <Steven_> yeah, so you pick favored class as your favored class
12:13:21 <Steven_> sorry wizzard as your favorite class
12:13:30 <Jumpy142> oh so the class I start off as is my favoured class
12:13:40 <Steven_> not always, you pick a favored class
12:13:43 <Jumpy142> but then when I level up I can get different classes?
12:14:02 <Steven_> I have a fighter thats picked ninja as his favored class
12:14:16 <Steven_> because later levels he is going to become a ninja
12:14:31 <Jumpy142> where can I find info on favoured classes?
12:14:58 <Steven_> you just pick one, the only benefits are +1 HP, +1skill point, or Racial favored
12:15:03 <Steven_> keep it simple
12:15:07 <Steven_> pick hp
12:15:15 <Steven_> nearly everyone
12:15:19 <Jumpy142> ok then
12:15:21 <Steven_> makes a character
12:15:24 <Spaceshot> yea wizards need more HP
12:15:28 <Steven_> plays one or two scenarios
12:15:32 <Steven_> and then builds a new character
12:15:37 <Spaceshot> you don't want to go from full HP to unconcious from just a simple arrow
12:15:39 <Steven_> now that they have some play time under their belts
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12:16:05 <Jumpy142> so what if I want a different class to be favoured?
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12:16:17 <Spaceshot> you can only have 1 favoured class
12:16:18 <Steven_> then you specify that class as your favored
12:16:27 <Spaceshot> unless you're a half-elf (they get 2 :P)
12:16:42 <Jumpy142> kk
12:16:44 <Steven_> and you only gain benefits when you take a level in that class
12:16:49 <Spaceshot> yup
12:16:57 <Steven_> or humans who take the ecclectic feat
12:16:58 <Spaceshot> you don't lose anything for not leveling in that class though
12:17:00 <Jumpy142> I'm going to have barbarian as favoured class
12:17:22 <Spaceshot> Steven_: yea, but I wouldn't count that as worth it, unless you could choose a PrC out of it (then it'd be a worthy feat)
12:17:54 <Steven_> well, as a fighter you might do a dip early on and knowing you have a ton of feats to play with
12:17:59 <Spaceshot> Jumpy142: by level 12 (which is the general max level for PFS, you can go higher now, but it's quite long and hard to do so) do you expect to have more barbarian levels than wizard levels?
12:18:01 <Steven_> might pick it up
12:18:19 <Jumpy142> Spaceshot: probably
12:18:49 <Mort-> Bb
12:18:50 <Mort-> Time to go
12:18:59 <Steven_> i find it rather disturbing that a barb would also be a wizard considering they dont know how to write
12:18:59 <Spaceshot> well then go nuts Jumpy142
12:19:20 <Brunius> Yeah
12:19:35 <Jumpy142> I have his whole backstory/story playing in my mind
12:19:37 <Jumpy142> wanna hear it?
12:19:43 <Steven_> not particularly
12:19:57 <Jumpy142> kk thne
12:19:57 <Steven_> that would take the fun out of learning it slowly through games
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12:20:01 <Jumpy142> then
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12:20:15 <Jumpy142> fair enough
12:20:41 <Jumpy142> how do I figure my speed with armor?
12:20:54 <Jumpy142> oh first I should do equipment, right?
12:21:23 <Steven_> down at the shop i play at there is a running gag about how ugly Ausks first wife is
12:21:38 <Spaceshot> also Jumpy142, don't stress over gear too much
12:21:50 <Spaceshot> haha
12:22:41 <Steven_> ran into a Gorgon, and i was like MY GOD SHE LOOKS LIKE MY FIRST WIFE *turns to the wizard who just turned to stone" Yeah had that effect on me too the first time I saw her. *turns back to the Gorgon* Daisy?
12:23:44 <Steven_> everyone was laughing pretty hard
12:23:50 <Spaceshot> that reminds me, hope I've got a character or 2
12:23:55 <Spaceshot> for IRL at conquest
12:25:26 <Steven_> im seriously considering going two weapon barb with this gnome
12:26:13 <Jumpy142> do I roll for money?
12:26:20 <Steven_> no
12:26:25 <Steven_> flat 150g for all classes
12:26:52 <Jumpy142> ok then
12:26:58 <Spaceshot> which makes tanks very sad
12:27:10 <Spaceshot> can't get fullplate till after 2 or more scenarios
12:27:44 <Jumpy142> so I shouldn't get a melee weapon right?
12:28:20 <Steven_> Always get a melee weapon
12:28:25 <Jumpy142> ranged weapon?
12:28:27 <Spaceshot> if you think you'll require it sure
12:28:28 <Steven_> i dont care if its just a dagger
12:28:39 <Spaceshot> getting a quarter staff is always good if it's not too heavy
12:28:42 <Spaceshot> they're free :P
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12:29:14 <Jumpy142> how about a club? they're free too
12:29:23 <Spaceshot> heh :P
12:29:23 <Steven_> my god
12:29:30 <Steven_> my brother has made a song about motorboting
12:29:37 <Steven_> motorboating even
12:29:46 <Spaceshot> I'd say don't fret about getting a weapon for your barbarian side yet
12:29:49 <Spaceshot> wait till you hit barb
12:29:56 <Spaceshot> or if you really want, get an orc battleaxe
12:30:02 <Spaceshot> since you're half-orc
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12:31:14 <Spaceshot> ok... some of First Steps 1 doesn't add up
12:32:12 <Spaceshot> wow... was mort cheating or what? :P
12:34:03 <Spaceshot> anywho, got anyone else wanting to play First Steps 1 in about 30mins?
12:34:10 <Jumpy142> What's TAB in my character sheet?
12:34:17 <Spaceshot> total attack bonus
12:34:26 <Spaceshot> your Base Attack Bonus + strength bonus
12:34:29 <Jumpy142> ah, how do I work it out?
12:34:38 <Jumpy142> whats my base attack bonus?
12:34:58 <Spaceshot> your class should have Base Attack Bonus, or BAB in it's table
12:35:08 <Spaceshot> same with fort, reflex and will saves
12:35:11 <Steven_> my brother and my friend tyler are such dorks
12:35:25 <Jumpy142> there's a table for this stuff?
12:35:26 <Steven_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huYUJFb2H2M&feature=share
12:35:33 <Steven_> for their music video
12:35:50 <Steven_> about.... motoboatn
12:35:52 <Jumpy142> hey look there *is* a table for this stuff...
12:36:03 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard
12:36:04 <Steven_> you can even see me in the video
12:36:11 <Spaceshot> I have no idea what you've been looking at :P
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12:36:33 <Jumpy142> no, It's been in the book the whole time, I just forgot about it :P
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12:37:18 <Jumpy142> so my BAB is 0, and my str is -1, so I have -1 as TAB?
12:37:21 <Steven_> im in the video at 3m10s
12:37:37 <Spaceshot> yup
12:37:43 <Spaceshot> :P
12:37:50 <Spaceshot> well, I'm somewhat prepared
12:37:57 <Spaceshot> just need to make sure I have CA working properly
12:38:12 <Spaceshot> should I download the latest?
12:38:38 <Jumpy142> what's CA?
12:38:50 <Spaceshot> the tool we use for combat
12:39:30 <Jumpy142> link?
12:40:17 <Spaceshot> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/files.php5
12:40:23 <Spaceshot> the latest unstable
12:40:52 <Jumpy142> do I add strength modifier to crossbow damage/tab as well?
12:41:38 <Jumpy142> oh yeah and why does it have like +10/+5 in the tab for demonstrative weapons?
12:42:07 <Spaceshot> not to crossbow
12:42:20 <Spaceshot> but you do add negative str to damage to longbows I think
12:42:23 <Jumpy142> you can tell how slow my internet is atm: it'll take 7 mins to download the 3.1Mb CA
12:42:29 <Spaceshot> haha
12:42:37 <Spaceshot> took me about 10
12:42:39 <Spaceshot> or more :P
12:42:58 <Jumpy142> I hate the reception in this house :S
12:42:58 <Spaceshot> anywho, just disregard what is in that templated sheet
12:43:04 <Spaceshot> it's just examples for layout
12:43:07 <Jumpy142> kk
12:43:13 <Spaceshot> not for what you specifically should have in ther
12:43:50 <Jumpy142> so I've got a club and light crossbow with 30 bolts
12:43:57 <Jumpy142> should I just get robes for armor?
12:44:11 <Spaceshot> unless you want to cheese it out, yes
12:44:21 <Spaceshot> there really aren't any armour for wizards
12:44:35 <Jumpy142> cheese it out?
12:44:44 <Spaceshot> can someone test my CA, latest build with IP 49.3.7.156
12:46:32 <Steven_> connecting
12:46:45 <Steven_> still connecting....
12:46:48 <Spaceshot> can you see a bunch of shit?
12:46:53 <Spaceshot> ok... I might have to open the port then :P
12:47:03 <Steven_> connection not successful
12:47:27 <Hydrazine> same.
12:47:58 <Spaceshot> try again
12:47:59 <Jumpy142> what do you mean by cheesing it out?
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12:48:46 <Spaceshot> well... technically there is armour you can wear as a wizard that won't give you arcane spell failure that is in Ultimate Combat
12:50:50 <Steven_> connection timed out
12:51:07 <Steven_> which port did you open?
12:51:39 <Spaceshot> 4000
12:52:53 <Steven_> timed out again
12:55:01 <Spaceshot> is it just me or are these maps retardedly unalligned
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12:55:51 <Jumpy142> what's the CA address.?
12:56:02 <Spaceshot> try 3999 Steven
12:56:17 <Spaceshot> 49.3.7.156
12:56:18 <Spaceshot> that's the IP
12:56:47 <Steven_> timed out, do you have an firewall or internet security program?
12:57:12 <Spaceshot> I've allowed it through windows and forwarded the port via the router
12:57:37 <Steven_> wierd
13:00:22 <Spaceshot> try again on port 4000
13:00:31 <Spaceshot> I just did some stuff that shouldn't of been required
13:00:34 <Spaceshot> but might have
13:02:17 <Jumpy142> hey guys, gotta go, I'll be back on later
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13:03:05 <Spaceshot> well, guessing this is a no show then :(
13:03:57 <Spaceshot> Ballig: is the cell size in pixels?
13:04:26 <Ballig> yes
13:04:41 <Ballig> best to do it by eye
13:04:48 <Spaceshot> trying
13:04:53 <Ballig> click the icon that has the pictureframe with the move icon in front of it
13:04:59 <Spaceshot> does it always fuck up halfway through the map though
13:05:01 <Ballig> you can adjust the size using a slider and see it immediately on the map
13:05:12 <Ballig> you need to be more specific
13:05:16 <Spaceshot> like if you do it by eye on the right left hand side by the time it hits the right it's screwed?
13:05:24 <Spaceshot> left hand side*
13:05:29 <Ballig> that just means you haven't got the right size
13:05:32 <Ballig> probably off by a pixel or two
13:05:46 <Ballig> it /looks/ correct on the left side, but the fact that it doesn't line up all the way across means it isn't
13:07:45 <Steven_> wtf!
13:07:53 <Steven_> seriously sam walks in the door, i get up hug her
13:07:55 <Steven_> kiss her
13:08:00 <Steven_> she plays with my hair a little
13:08:05 <Steven_> and then yanks out a gray hair
13:08:16 <Steven_> and then wonders why im irratated
13:08:18 <Spaceshot> hahaha
13:08:19 <Ballig> you're getting old
13:08:39 <Steven_> like shes done me a favor by pulling out my hair
13:08:44 <Steven_> i know ballig
13:08:48 <Spaceshot> Ballig: 36 fits almost good just under, and 37 fits almost good just under
13:08:54 <Spaceshot> just over*
13:08:58 <Spaceshot> for 37
13:09:02 <Spaceshot> WTB 36.5 pixels :P
13:09:16 <Ballig> show me how you get half a pixel
13:09:28 <Spaceshot> didn't say it was possible
13:09:35 <Spaceshot> I'm just saying that it would magically work if I could
13:09:38 <Ballig> you're doing FS1?
13:09:46 <Spaceshot> yup
13:09:50 <Spaceshot> first map
13:09:58 <Spaceshot> well... trying to do FS1
13:10:06 <Spaceshot> Steven can't connect to me
13:10:35 <Spaceshot> and I've opened up the Port/s (3999 and 4000 to test both) in my router and windows firewall
13:10:41 <Spaceshot> and allowed DevCA in windows firewall
13:10:47 <Steven_> maybe its on my end, let me check
13:10:58 <Spaceshot> ballig can you connect
13:11:08 <Spaceshot> 49.3.7.156
13:11:11 <Spaceshot> port 4000
13:12:06 <Steven_> well my connection seems to be working correctly
13:12:24 <Ballig> are you sure that's your IP
13:12:29 <Spaceshot> yes
13:12:34 <Steven_> how sure?
13:12:39 <Spaceshot> both my router and whatismyisp.com says the same number
13:12:40 <Spaceshot> being that
13:12:43 <Steven_> willing to bet a testical?
13:13:02 <Ballig> did you just "open the port" or did you forward it?
13:13:15 <Ballig> your router needs to know which computer to send the request to
13:13:23 <Spaceshot> fowarding
13:13:33 <Spaceshot> to forward on this router I require to put in a host IP
13:13:34 <Steven_> ill be back in a while
13:13:34 <Ballig> and you gave it your correct network IP?
13:13:37 <Spaceshot> which I've done
13:13:39 <Spaceshot> yup
13:13:43 <Ballig> what IP did you put in?
13:13:45 <Steven_> sam wants to cuddle, cause her boss yelled at her
13:13:46 <Spaceshot> for some reason, 192.168.1.100
13:13:56 <Spaceshot> that's what cmd:ipconfig told me
13:14:13 <Ballig> sure that's the address and not the default gateway?
13:14:39 <Spaceshot> default is .1
13:14:46 <Spaceshot> I know my simplistic networking XD
13:14:47 <Ballig> does your router have DMZ settings?
13:14:52 <Steven_> so ill be back after i tell her how her boss is a douche
13:14:54 <Spaceshot> I think so
13:14:56 <Spaceshot> lemme check
13:15:01 <Steven_> and listen to her complain for around an hour
13:15:02 <Ballig> set 192.168.1.100 in the DMZ
13:15:14 <Spaceshot> where would DMZ be under?
13:15:18 <Ballig> what router?
13:15:23 <Hydrazine> router configs.
13:15:47 <Spaceshot> Vividwireless HomeGateway
13:16:00 <Ballig> I'm assuming that's your ISP, not your router
13:16:02 <Spaceshot> I'm looking at DHCP Server
13:16:05 <Spaceshot> no that's the router
13:16:14 <Spaceshot> it's a VividWireless HomeGateway (i'm on 4g remember)
13:16:21 <Ballig> ah
13:16:31 <Ballig> what's the actual model number of t he dongle
13:16:40 <Spaceshot> ah firewall
13:16:43 <Spaceshot> found DMZ
13:16:52 <Ballig> add your network IP to it
13:16:54 <Ballig> and it should work
13:17:24 <Spaceshot> try again, only ballig (because I don't want to give spoilers to steven)
13:17:33 <Spaceshot> actually I think Hydrazine's played FS1 right?
13:17:34 <Ballig> I'm sure steven has played it
13:17:40 <Spaceshot> he said he wasn't sure
13:17:54 <Ballig> it's not going to connect, if you're actually in the DMZ that means it's windows firewall and not your router
13:17:56 <Spaceshot> anywho I know hydra played it, jerus was a bobble head
13:18:06 <Spaceshot> I've done it on windows firewall
13:18:10 <Ballig> disable it
13:18:19 <Spaceshot> sure?
13:18:27 <Spaceshot> just totally remove windowsFirewall?
13:18:30 <Ballig> no
13:18:34 <Ballig> you can turn protection off
13:18:42 <Ballig> it's the easiest way to see if it's the firewall
13:19:16 <Spaceshot> how do you just turn off protection, but not the whole firewall?
13:19:27 <Ballig> you are turning off the whole firewall, but you can turn it back on after
13:19:31 <Spaceshot> ahh
13:19:40 <Spaceshot> try connecting
13:19:54 <Ballig> not working, you're missing something
13:19:55 <Avatar-> spaceshot: yes
13:20:00 <Avatar-> I can't pm you
13:20:11 <Avatar-> do mode -R
13:20:26 <Spaceshot> oh capital R
13:21:12 <Spaceshot> how do I do it in icechat (still somewhat used to mIRC)
13:21:25 <Spaceshot> so that IP on port 4000 isn't working?
13:21:45 <Ballig> /mode Spaceshot -R
13:21:50 <Spaceshot> oh name
13:21:51 <Spaceshot> gotcha
13:21:56 <Hydrazine> ?
13:21:59 <Ballig> right, that IP on port 4000 isn't working
13:22:07 <Hydrazine> yes, I have.
13:22:31 <Spaceshot> I think mort was cheating a bit when she was bashing on hydra
13:22:33 <Spaceshot> like, a lot
13:23:16 <Ballig> she was ignoring the tactics a little
13:23:34 <Spaceshot> no, she was even cheating with the basic attacks
13:23:34 <Ballig> it's a good example of why you follow the tactics when possible, because if you don't encounters can be far harder (or easier) than they are designed to be
13:23:43 <Ballig> define cheating
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13:23:49 <Spaceshot> everyone who has access check the last fight
13:23:52 <Spaceshot> the guy with the rapier
13:23:58 <Ballig> what about him
13:24:10 <Spaceshot> he only does 1 attack
13:24:26 <Spaceshot> he doesn't TWF
13:24:51 <Ballig> he does TWF
13:25:11 <Spaceshot> no, no he doesn't
13:25:19 <Spaceshot> because if he did, he'd be at -2 and -2 to hit
13:25:28 <Ballig> anyone can TWF man
13:25:32 <Spaceshot> or -2 and -4
13:25:37 <Ballig> the stats usually don't show those modifiers
13:25:42 <Ballig> if she wasn't applying the right modifiers, then she was mistaken
13:25:52 <Spaceshot> that part
13:25:52 <Ballig> that hardly rises to the level of cheating
13:25:56 <Spaceshot> it's not hard to read a stat block :P
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13:26:16 <Spaceshot> I read the stat block, looked at str, looked for weapon finese and/or TWF feat
13:26:20 <Ballig> it's a bit obnoxious to say someone was cheating because they misread a stat block or didn't apply the right penalties
13:26:22 <Spaceshot> and did the maths
13:26:32 <Spaceshot> well maybe not cheating, but you know what I mean
13:26:43 <Spaceshot> mort was just being usual mort DM XD
13:26:46 <Ballig> and I disagree with your choice of phrase because it's unnecessary
13:26:57 <Spaceshot> whatever
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13:27:06 <Spaceshot> so I'm not a master linguist
13:27:50 <Spaceshot> anywho about the DevCA thing
13:27:59 <Spaceshot> do I need to put a Firewall Filter in on the router?
13:28:21 <Ballig> you need to disable things until you figure out what's preventing the connection
13:28:24 <Ballig> are you actually listening?
13:28:34 <Ballig> on the bottom left of CA does it say "Listening on port X"?
13:28:50 <Spaceshot> yup
13:28:54 <Spaceshot> has been for quite some time
13:28:55 <Ballig> which port?
13:28:58 <Spaceshot> 4000
13:29:02 <Ballig> close it down and re-listen
13:29:08 <Ballig> probably wont' make a difference but worth trying
13:29:48 <Spaceshot> done
13:29:55 <Ballig> also uh
13:29:59 <Ballig> this might help
13:30:03 <Spaceshot> hmm...
13:30:06 <Ballig> http://www.canyouseeme.org/
13:30:07 <Spaceshot> check the .ini
13:30:32 <Ballig> what's in the .ini that bothers you
13:30:34 <Spaceshot> so whats the connect0=IP in ca.ini?
13:30:42 <Ballig> it's just the connect history
13:30:47 <Spaceshot> ahh mmk
13:30:51 <Ballig> go to that website
13:30:58 <Spaceshot> it's there
13:31:11 <Spaceshot> says couldn't see
13:31:13 <Ballig> when you put in port 4000 and hit check, does it say it's open?
13:31:16 <Spaceshot> because connection timed out
13:31:19 <Spaceshot> but this is my laptop
13:31:19 <Spaceshot> XD
13:31:22 <Ballig> yeah, when you get that to work, CA will work
13:31:25 <Spaceshot> gimme a sec to do it on my PC
13:31:29 <Spaceshot> which is the CA host :P
13:32:09 <Spaceshot> still can't
13:32:14 <Spaceshot> connection timed out on my PC too
13:32:17 <Ballig> yeah
13:32:25 <Ballig> you need to check the router, make certain your computer's IP is the one in the DMZ
13:32:33 <Ballig> otherwise disable the router firewall, and your windows firewall
13:32:34 <Spaceshot> how do you check all ports which are opened
13:32:37 <Hydrazine> It was Mort's first run DMing.
13:32:48 <Spaceshot> Hydrazine: heh true
13:32:52 <Ballig> you can get programs that check all your ports, but it's not worth it for this
13:33:07 <Spaceshot> no I mean doesn't canyouseeme have the whole port list it can go through
13:33:16 <Ballig> not as far as I can see
13:33:18 <Ballig> why would you want it to
13:33:23 <Spaceshot> maybe it was a different one
13:34:06 <Spaceshot> maybe I need to restart router to get DMZ to work?
13:34:37 <Ballig> maybe
13:34:37 <Spaceshot> would NAT ALG be an issue?
13:34:47 <Ballig> might be
13:35:10 <Spaceshot> ALG is on for FTP, H.323 and PPTP
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13:35:54 <Ballig> I don't imagine it would affect it if it is only on for those
13:36:24 <Spaceshot> here goes restart
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13:39:36 <Spaceshot15> restarted
13:39:44 <Spaceshot15> same IP
13:39:46 <Spaceshot15> same port
13:39:46 <Ballig> http://www.canyouseeme.org/
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13:39:47 <Spaceshot15> try again
13:39:49 <Ballig> use that
13:39:54 <Ballig> it'll be quicker
13:39:58 <Spaceshot15> but wa
13:39:59 <Spaceshot15> :P
13:40:08 <Spaceshot15> nope
13:40:10 <Spaceshot15> still shit
13:40:14 <Spaceshot15> maybe I'll have to
13:40:17 <Ballig> does your router have a firewall?
13:40:17 <Spaceshot15> *gulp*
13:40:21 <Spaceshot15> google it
13:40:26 <Spaceshot15> supposedly
13:40:32 <Ballig> disable it
13:40:33 <Spaceshot15> it's got a firewall tab
13:40:46 <Spaceshot15> not sure I can
13:41:04 <Spaceshot15> like there's a firewall tab, but there isn't a disable button/check box in that tab
13:41:32 <Ballig> do you kn ow the model number of your dongle
13:41:38 <Spaceshot15> that tab just has CPE access control (3 checkboxes for WAN), DMZ(DMZ host) and firewall filter
13:41:44 <Spaceshot15> not a dongle, an actual router
13:41:47 <Spaceshot15> gimme a sec
13:41:52 <Spaceshot15> this might fuck up my connection
13:41:53 <Brunius_> Move to DMZ
13:41:56 <Ballig> he did
13:42:04 <Ballig> unless he's using the wrong network IP for it
13:42:13 <Spaceshot15> not that I know of ballig
13:42:19 <Spaceshot15> DX-230
13:43:17 <Ballig> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/vividwireless/DX-230/default.htm
13:43:19 <Ballig> did you follow those steps
13:44:15 <Brunius_> Is Ballig's troubleshooting method to google it
13:44:21 <Ballig> of course
13:44:30 <Brunius_> You know we can google too
13:44:39 <Ballig> doesn't mean he is, or that he googles the right things
13:45:00 <Spaceshot15> knowing how to google gets you the right jobs brunius
13:45:13 <Spaceshot15> like seriously, I know a guy who is level2 help desk, just from knowing how to google
13:45:16 <Spaceshot15> like no training
13:45:17 <Brunius_> http://xkcd.com/903/
13:46:08 <Spaceshot15> wow Ballig, I've done that already
13:46:12 <Spaceshot15> first thing I did
13:46:17 <Spaceshot15> when forwarding
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13:46:38 <Spaceshot> ...
13:46:39 <Spaceshot> FUCK
13:46:41 <Spaceshot> FUCK FUCK FUCK
13:46:42 <Spaceshot> I'm retarded
13:46:59 <Ballig> that was the assumption I was working from
13:47:01 <Spaceshot> ok try again
13:47:09 <Spaceshot> no it wasn't what you posted
13:47:14 <Spaceshot> but it should in theory work now
13:47:16 <Spaceshot> so should EYE
13:47:37 <Ballig> it's connected
13:47:40 <Spaceshot> don't ask
13:47:45 <Ballig> and even if it wasn't what I posted, that was still the assumption I was working from
13:47:46 <Ballig> :p
13:47:46 <Spaceshot> because I won't tell
13:48:04 <Brunius_> What did you do, Spaceshot
13:48:06 <Spaceshot> *cough* 192.168.1.100 NOT 192.168.0.100 *cough*
13:48:13 <Spaceshot> yea I had it as 0 not 1
13:48:13 <Spaceshot> XD
13:48:37 <Brunius_> Nice 1
13:48:37 <Spaceshot> well since you're connected
13:48:45 <Spaceshot> try to fix my map
13:49:10 <Ballig> I did mention like 6 times make sure it was the right IP
13:49:25 <Spaceshot> no...
13:49:26 <Spaceshot> XD
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13:49:37 <Spaceshot> ANYWHO
13:49:45 <Spaceshot> thats the best I can make of it ballig
13:49:51 <Ballig> I'm not connected
13:49:54 <Ballig> but I'm sure I understand your issues
13:49:55 <Spaceshot> thought you were
13:49:57 <Ballig> just turn the grid lines off
13:50:16 <Spaceshot> but it won't snap to the makeshift grid on the map :P
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13:50:36 <Brunius_> Tweak it
13:50:45 <Spaceshot> you on brun?
13:51:02 <Brunius_> nope
13:51:17 <Spaceshot> anywho, want to play some EYE?
13:51:23 <Brunius_> Can't
13:51:26 <Brunius_> This compy won't
13:51:30 <Spaceshot> ??
13:51:31 <Spaceshot> bah
13:52:03 <Spaceshot> mmm
13:52:17 <Spaceshot> anywho, guess I won't be running FS1 anytime soon
13:52:24 <Spaceshot> Jumpy142 isn't here
13:52:26 <Ballig> because you can't get the grid to line up?
13:52:35 <Spaceshot> no the grid lines are as good as they'll ever get
13:52:48 <Jumpy142> I'm sorta here
13:52:55 <Spaceshot> are you busy though?
13:53:17 <Jumpy142> Yeah, a bit
13:53:28 <Spaceshot> Ballig: can I expand a background image in CA?
13:53:52 <Ballig> define expand
13:54:25 <Spaceshot> enlarge, zoom in, make the picture bigger than default size
13:54:29 <Ballig> no
13:54:32 <Ballig> it doesn't alter the image
13:54:33 <Spaceshot> mmk
13:55:35 <Spaceshot> now that last FS1 map is trying to fuck with me
13:55:45 <Spaceshot> they're goddamn rectangles
13:56:10 <Brunius_> haha
13:56:37 <Spaceshot> well, they aren't meant to be rectangles, sometard just squished the picture
13:57:41 <Brunius_> Probably you
13:58:27 <Avatar-> haha
13:59:00 <Brunius_> Avatar-: Do you know if the traders there sell DKA boosters?
13:59:13 <Spaceshot> DKA?
13:59:32 <Brunius_> Spaceshot, mode -R
13:59:50 <Avatar-> I don't know what that is
14:00:06 <Brunius_> Can you ask Mekkis?
14:00:26 <Brunius_> Or is he in a different room
14:01:11 <Spaceshot> ffs forgot
14:01:20 <Spaceshot> done
14:02:41 <Spaceshot> Avatar: brunius has gotten worse, he's gone past his plastic crack to cardboard crack now
14:02:59 <Brunius_> It's card crack
14:03:03 <Brunius_> Not cardboard
14:03:07 <Spaceshot> close enough
14:03:14 <Brunius_> Cardboard has corrugations
14:03:19 <Brunius_> Card is just thicker paper
14:03:19 <Spaceshot> heh
14:03:24 <Spaceshot> you should feel a L5R card
14:03:40 <Brunius_> I don't know what that is
14:03:41 <Spaceshot> the recent ones are so silky/slippery feeling
14:03:46 <Spaceshot> Legend of the 5 rings
14:03:53 <Brunius_> booooooo
14:03:57 <Brunius_> :P
14:04:04 <Spaceshot> basically medieval fantasy japan
14:04:22 <Spaceshot> Brunius_: how to samurai and tatooed monks who shoot fireballs boooooo?
14:04:48 <Spaceshot> well samurai don't shoot fireballs, but shugenja do?
14:04:56 <Spaceshot> I think
14:05:09 <Brunius_> It doesn't interest me
14:05:17 <Brunius_> Apparently if it doesn't interest me, it sucks
14:05:23 <Spaceshot> love me my tatooed monks though (am still trying to make a working tatooed monk who flings flaming spells at peoples faces in pathfinder)
14:05:24 <Brunius_> (According to society)
14:05:31 <Spaceshot> Brunius_: are you from the internets?
14:07:25 <Brunius_> Evidently
14:07:56 <Avatar-> mekkis and tristen went to his place
14:08:32 <Brunius_> hawt
14:09:53 <Brunius_> Honestly though, Warhammer and MTG fulfil different roles for me
14:10:02 <Brunius_> I can't finish a game of Warhammer in an hour
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14:10:59 <Spaceshot> Brunius: you aren't tabling fast enough
14:11:07 <Spaceshot> but true, your first turns movement takes about 30mins :P
14:11:11 <Spaceshot> supid IG spam
14:11:16 <Spaceshot> stupid*
14:18:53 <Spaceshot> thought you were doing the whole OMG WTF MORE PATHFINDER? overdose avatar
14:25:41 <Hydrazine> orks orks orks orks..
14:27:30 <Avatar-> what
14:28:06 <Hydrazine> Da red wuns go fasta.
14:28:26 <Avatar-> brunius: mekkis doesn't know and says you should have told him yesterday
14:28:30 <Spaceshot> WARGHH
14:28:59 <Avatar-> and he could have brought one
14:29:22 <Spaceshot> I don't want to make a gnome.... maybe a halfling
14:29:30 <Spaceshot> but that pyromania does sound good...
14:32:04 <Spaceshot> wow....
14:32:15 <Spaceshot> heart of the field is so broken for a barbarian
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14:32:40 <Spaceshot> like humans need to be even better for barbs :P
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14:36:39 <Hydrazine> too bad its illegal
14:36:58 <Spaceshot> really?
14:37:01 <Spaceshot> makes sense I gues
14:39:15 <Spaceshot> I'm thinking of going a pure pyro caster
14:40:31 <Spaceshot> going flame oracle over sorc for shits and giggles :P
14:40:37 <Spaceshot> mainly I get to wear armour
14:41:08 <Spaceshot> I'm thinking duel curse
14:41:25 <Spaceshot> lame and tongues or black blood
14:42:00 <Spaceshot> dual*
14:42:26 <Hydrazine> more oracles?
14:42:28 <Hydrazine> moracles?
14:43:03 <Spaceshot> exactly
14:43:09 <Spaceshot> but this oracle is going pyro caster
14:43:11 <Hydrazine> but i was planning to make an oracle..
14:43:18 <Spaceshot> Hydrazine: so? make one
14:43:28 <Spaceshot> I bet you'd make a battle oracle mastering combat manuevers
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14:50:46 <Hydrazine> Why?
14:53:53 <Brunius> Avatar-: I don't necessarily want one, depends on what this guy says on Sunday
14:53:58 <Spaceshot> because you like to manuever dudes
14:54:24 <Brunius> In more ways that one ;-P
14:57:32 <Hydrazine> What makes you say that? I only have one character that uses alot of combat maneuvers.
14:57:49 <Spaceshot> you like to get in the fray
14:58:11 <Hydrazine> Don't confuse Jerus' style with me as a whole.
14:58:45 <Hydrazine> Yeah, Jerus plays pretty ballsy sometimes. Hes often the highest HP person in the group.
14:58:59 <Brunius> What level is he?
14:58:59 <Spaceshot> :P
14:59:03 <Spaceshot> I think 4
14:59:12 <Brunius> How many HPs does he have?
14:59:20 <Brunius> !findchar Jerus
14:59:23 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Jerus, number: 352( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=352 )
14:59:24 <Brunius> !findchar Bairaq
14:59:24 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Bairaq, number: 333( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=333 )
14:59:25 <Hydrazine> 4 and 39
14:59:52 <Brunius> Huh, looks like I haven't updated Bairaq's sheet
14:59:58 <Spaceshot> only 39?
15:00:08 <Spaceshot> :P
15:00:15 <Hydrazine> Yeah, only 39.
15:00:25 <Hydrazine> Hes more offense than defense.
15:00:29 <Spaceshot> yea I bet
15:00:31 <Brunius> Bairaq has 36 at that level
15:01:38 <Hydrazine> We do what we must, because we can.
15:01:51 <Brunius> For the good of all of us
15:02:05 <Hydrazine> Jerus doesn't use CMBs much.
15:02:19 <Hydrazine> Hoku just uses one.. all the time.
15:03:30 <Spaceshot> heh
15:03:34 <Spaceshot> the hogtie?
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15:04:36 <Hydrazine> yep.
15:04:48 <Hydrazine> wrecks casers.
15:06:38 <Spaceshot> you'll one day face a still master and you'll be screwed
15:07:37 <Hydrazine> Doesn't matter.
15:08:14 <Hydrazine> concentration checks for casting while grappling aren't related to still spell.
15:08:36 <Spaceshot> I thought it was based on somatic component
15:09:00 <Hydrazine> it applies to spell-like abilities too.
15:09:03 <Hydrazine> Which don't have somatics.
15:09:05 <Spaceshot> :P
15:09:09 <Spaceshot> news to me
15:09:19 <Spaceshot> <<not used to being grappled and caring about casting at the same time
15:10:00 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
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15:13:37 <Hydrazine> you can try a still spell or spell lika ability, with concentration check.
15:13:47 <Hydrazine> you can't try a spell with somatics at all while pinned.
15:15:03 <Hydrazine> But if someone's really trying.. its a pretty tough concentration check.
15:15:50 <Spaceshot> oh pinned
15:15:55 <Spaceshot> I thought you meant grappled
15:16:55 <Hydrazine> the concentration check is what I'm relying on to do the wrecking.
15:17:19 <Hydrazine> which happens either way.
15:17:30 <Hydrazine> Pinned or grappled
15:20:53 <Spaceshot> grappled you have an arm free though :P
15:20:55 <Spaceshot> I thought
15:21:23 <Hydrazine> And?
15:23:18 <Spaceshot> easier to cast
15:24:17 <Hydrazine> You paying attention?
15:24:29 <Hydrazine> If it requires somatics, you can't do it pinned. period.
15:25:26 <Spaceshot> GRAPPLED ISN'T PINNED
15:25:38 <Hydrazine> Exactly.
15:25:44 <Hydrazine> Pinned, you can still cast with somatics.
15:25:48 <Spaceshot> I'm talking about grappled
15:25:48 <Hydrazine> But with a concentration check.
15:26:02 <Hydrazine> err.
15:26:03 <Hydrazine> grappled.
15:26:13 <Hydrazine> grappled, you can cast with concentation checks.
15:26:21 <Spaceshot> but how does still worked with grappled?
15:26:54 <Hydrazine> Doesn't affect it.
15:27:43 <Spaceshot> sure?
15:28:17 <Hydrazine> Unless you can show me otherwise.
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15:31:20 <Avatar-> I lost whatever you said to me brunius
15:32:12 <Brunius> Is Mekkis still around?
15:32:24 <Avatar-> yeah
15:32:30 <Avatar-> we are playing
15:32:39 <Brunius> Only an hour left !
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15:36:34 <Jumpy142> aftrenoon
15:36:37 <Brunius> Man I'm tempted to throw all my other plans to the wind and just come down tomorrow
15:36:40 <Jumpy142> :/
15:36:47 <Jumpy142> AFTERnoon
15:36:49 <Brunius> Sup Jumpy142
15:37:02 <Jumpy142> nm, almost finished my char
15:37:16 <Jumpy142> how do I figure out my AC?
15:37:30 <Brunius> 10+dex+armour+size
15:37:35 <Brunius> What's your dex?
15:37:46 <Jumpy142> medium is 0 right?
15:37:49 <Brunius> Yep
15:37:56 <Jumpy142> 14, +2
15:38:00 <Jumpy142> so I'd be at 12 AC?
15:38:10 <Jumpy142> ok then
15:38:24 <Brunius> Assuming you're not wearing any armour
15:39:36 <Brunius> Did you grab Mage Armour as a spell?
15:40:58 <Jumpy142> yeah
15:41:08 <Jumpy142> that'll add 4 when I cast, right?
15:41:12 <Brunius> yep
15:41:13 <Jumpy142> whats the duration?
15:42:46 <Brunius> 1 hour/level
15:43:13 <Jumpy142> ah ok
15:46:52 <Jumpy142> whats cmb/cmd?
15:48:14 <Hydrazine> you know, the base sheet on the site has all the formula for these.
15:48:19 <Hydrazine> all you got to do is plug numbers in
15:48:35 <Jumpy142> no, I mean what do they stand for
15:48:44 <Hydrazine> combat maneuver bonus and defense.
15:49:16 <Hydrazine> its how good/resistant you are to tricky shit, like disarms and trips.
15:49:21 <Jumpy142> when do they come into play? like attacks of opportunity?
15:49:45 <Jumpy142> ah
15:50:21 <Hydrazine> disarms, trips, sunders, grapples..
15:50:28 <Hydrazine> all that stuff is CMB/CMD.
15:51:01 <Jumpy142> grapples... I heard they're fun :D
15:51:19 <Hydrazine> So much that I made a specialist grappler!
15:51:34 <Spaceshot> ahh
15:51:44 <Spaceshot> you NEED silent spell to be able to cast whilst pinned
15:51:46 <Spaceshot> gotcha
15:52:00 <Hydrazine> you mean still?
15:52:05 <Spaceshot> still yea
15:52:08 <Hydrazine> yeah.
15:52:09 <Spaceshot> you NEED it to cast
15:52:28 <Spaceshot> ok, I knew still spell was awesome against grapple, or at least useful
15:52:46 <Spaceshot> though that concentration check is stupidly huge
15:53:15 <Spaceshot> 10+ CMB+spell elvel
15:53:17 <Spaceshot> level*
15:55:43 <Hydrazine> yeah.
15:59:16 <Hydrazine> whats the modifiers to a concentration?
15:59:33 <Hydrazine> base casting stat+what?
15:59:51 <Jumpy142> do I start with any items, like essentials-type stuff?
16:00:04 <Hydrazine> clothes.
16:00:16 <Spaceshot> that's it
16:00:16 <Hydrazine> and 150gp to spend.
16:00:51 <Jumpy142> ok
16:01:26 <Jumpy142> because on this template is shows me having like flint & steel, rope, torch, waterskin, grappling hook
16:01:39 <Jumpy142> just get rid of them? or just spend that much to get them?
16:01:47 <Hydrazine> template lists some examples.
16:01:54 <Hydrazine> lists examples on weapons too.
16:02:11 <Hydrazine> Uh. I think I spent that much and took them, cause most of it seemed like pretty reasonable things. but its your call.
16:02:32 <Jumpy142> may as well, it's like 2gp
16:02:55 <Jumpy142> sorry, 4gp and 1cp
16:04:44 <Jumpy142> ok, I've got just over 100 gold left, what else do I need?
16:05:22 <Hydrazine> armor? a ranged and melee weapon?
16:06:04 <Jumpy142> no armor because it'd make casting badder. I've got a club and light crossbow
16:07:08 <Hydrazine> hm.
16:07:14 <Hydrazine> I don't know what casters pack.
16:07:55 <Jumpy142> did I hear something about a pouch thing?
16:12:06 <Spaceshot> spell component pouch
16:12:12 <Spaceshot> and a spellbook
16:14:15 <Hydrazine> i think you get a spellbook free for class?
16:14:31 <Spaceshot> you'd have to read the organised play guide
16:14:36 <Spaceshot> haven't made a PFS wiz yet
16:15:02 <Jumpy142> yeah, I get free spellbook
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16:27:27 <Jumpy142> if I get a horse, can I give it a riding saddle and packs?
16:27:59 <Jumpy142> oh no, I'd just give it a riding saddle and saddlebags
16:30:44 <Jumpy142> where is info on how much mounts can hold?
16:31:17 <N2H4> carry limits.
16:32:06 <Jumpy142> where?
16:32:49 <N2H4> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/alignment-description/carrying-capacity
16:33:11 <Jumpy142> thanks :)
16:33:26 <N2H4> remember that quadrupeds get bonuses.
16:33:58 <Jumpy142> how do I know what my horse
16:34:04 <Jumpy142> 's strength is?
16:34:51 <N2H4> 16.
16:35:03 <Jumpy142> ah ok
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16:39:15 <Jumpy142> and it's large, right?
16:40:51 <Spaceshot> yup
16:40:57 <Spaceshot> get a camel :P
16:41:31 <Brunius> You know what happens to horses on Absalom?
16:41:34 <Brunius> They get eaten.
16:41:39 <Brunius> Er
16:41:41 <Brunius> In Absalom
16:41:52 <Jumpy142> can I?
16:42:29 <Jumpy142> how much are camels?
16:43:08 <Spaceshot> :P
16:43:18 <Spaceshot> that's why I suggested camel, they're got a worse after taste
16:43:26 <Brunius> $500
16:43:45 <Brunius> (In Egypt)
16:43:49 <Spaceshot> :P
16:44:03 <Spaceshot> I think they're about 1.5x a horse
16:44:24 <Jumpy142> mehh... I'm just getting a light horse
16:44:36 <Jumpy142> where does it show strength values of mounts?
16:44:44 <Brunius> In the Bestiary
16:46:06 <Spaceshot> I think a horse is 16
16:46:34 <Jumpy142> yeah, light horse is
16:46:39 <Jumpy142> heavy horse is 20
16:47:51 <Spaceshot> and warhorse?
16:47:55 <Spaceshot> or is warhorse a heavy?
16:48:01 <Spaceshot> that's just combat trained?
16:48:03 <Jumpy142> heavy
16:48:10 <Jumpy142> yeah, pretty much
16:48:59 <Jumpy142> ok, I think I'm good to go
16:48:59 <Spaceshot> you will need to make concentration checks to cast whilst mounted :P
16:49:10 <Jumpy142> oh right, gotta get a name for him
16:50:35 <Jumpy142> hmmm
16:50:42 <Spaceshot> hmm...
16:51:33 <Spaceshot> if I use elemental affinity(or whatever the feat is called that changes elemental spell damage to a selected type), does that mean it counts as fire damage for feats/abilities
16:51:39 <Spaceshot> if I chose fire
16:54:16 <Spaceshot> that reminds me
17:06:33 <Jumpy142> ok, so my character is registered. What now?
17:07:19 <Brunius> On the paizo site?
17:07:32 <MekkisScreen> .
17:07:43 <Spaceshot> have either ballig or avatar here give you an account and a spot to put your character into
17:07:50 <MekkisScreen> ./quit
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17:07:54 <Brunius> MekkisScreen: I'm not sure if I want the boosters yet
17:07:57 <Brunius> Argh
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17:08:19 <Jumpy142> Bruinus: yeah
17:08:24 <vpsirc> Ballig...
17:08:27 <Jumpy142> Bruinius: yeah
17:08:34 <Ballig> vpsirc
17:08:36 <Brunius> Third time lucky :P
17:08:51 <Jumpy142> Brunius: yeah
17:08:55 <Jumpy142> there
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17:09:24 <Mekkis|Screen> Ballig, could I get a chronicle sheet for CoTE?
17:09:33 <Jumpy142> So Ballig, what do I do now?
17:10:27 <Ballig> Jumpy142: with what
17:10:47 <Spaceshot> he needs his character on the site
17:10:50 <Spaceshot> and an account
17:10:57 <Jumpy142> it is on the site
17:11:04 <Jumpy142> done that too
17:11:07 <Spaceshot> no, pfrpg.com.au
17:11:20 <Jumpy142> ah
17:12:47 <Jumpy142> http://paizo.com/people/Bjoyrk/profile
17:14:17 <Jumpy142> so how do I log in?
17:23:43 <Avatar-> ballig has to set up an account for you
17:23:49 <Avatar-> harass him
17:24:45 <Spaceshot> ffs
17:24:51 <Spaceshot> I don't get burning hands till level 2
17:25:09 <Spaceshot> can't take any traits that must select a spell when you take the trait
17:26:36 <Mekkis|Screen> .
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17:32:10 <Brunius> Ha
17:32:26 <Spaceshot> field guide is general knowledge right?
17:32:28 <Spaceshot> for PFS
17:32:30 <Brunius> Yes
17:32:34 <Spaceshot> sweet
17:32:51 <Spaceshot> all I have to do is decide on a faction and I'm practically done
17:33:34 <Spaceshot> so wish I got scorching ray or flame sphere over resist energy
17:33:41 <Spaceshot> but I guess I can't have everything
17:33:54 <Spaceshot> I do get burning hands at 2nd and fireball at 6th
17:34:54 <Mekkis|Screen> ballig?
17:37:38 <Spaceshot> I don't think I've got a pyro gnome model lying around
17:37:51 <Brunius> I don't have a gunslinger model lying around.
17:37:55 <Brunius> Point?\
17:38:26 <Spaceshot> was just thinking about what to use for sunday
17:42:03 <Brunius> Anyone able to get discounts on servo motors?
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17:49:29 <Spaceshot> is the 'GM must be present to purchase items' rule that strict?
17:49:50 <Brunius> Absolutely.
17:49:53 <Brunius> (not)
17:53:57 <Jumpy142> ok, I'm registered now. what do I do now? How are the games played?
17:54:59 <Spaceshot> well, we usually play PFS in this channe.
17:55:02 <Spaceshot> channel*
17:55:35 <Spaceshot> usually on the weekends, but if there are enough people wanting to play, someone wanting to DM and enough time, people can start whenever (such as weekday nights)
17:56:22 <Jumpy142> when?
17:56:45 <Spaceshot> do you see the times in the channels topic?
17:56:50 <Jumpy142> ohk
17:56:56 <Spaceshot> that is australian eastern standard time
17:57:06 <Spaceshot> that is when games are usually played
17:57:19 <Jumpy142> ok then
17:57:28 <Jumpy142> so a game is going on tomorrow at 1?
17:57:35 <Spaceshot> yes
17:57:41 <Jumpy142> cool
17:57:47 <Jumpy142> pity I won't be able to join any this weekend :S
17:57:50 <Spaceshot> and there should be enough room, and it's a tier 1-5
17:57:53 <Spaceshot> :P
17:59:17 <Jumpy142> I can't, I'm working at the markets tomorrow, and probably not Sunday because don't know what dad's got in store for me
17:59:27 <Jumpy142> might be able to make it for sunday
18:00:10 <Brunius> Markets?
18:00:48 <Jumpy142> yeah, trash & treasure
18:00:49 <Jumpy142> in Sydney
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18:47:34 <Spaceshot> soo....
18:50:42 <Brunius> Care to expand on that?
18:50:57 <Spaceshot> I do and I don't
18:51:09 <Spaceshot> it's like when you want to tell someone something, but you don't want them to hear it
18:51:12 <Spaceshot> XS
18:51:39 <Brunius> I see.
18:59:07 <Spaceshot> yes quite like that
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19:33:23 <Brunius> Anyone able to print a couple of chronicles for me?
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19:33:30 <Brunius> My printer has decided to give up
19:34:02 <Mort-> Your not out?
19:34:15 <Mort-> Aren't you guys at convention?
19:35:05 <Spaceshot> no, me and brunius are only going sunday
19:38:27 <Mort-> Ah k
19:38:49 <Spaceshot> wooo thunderstorm
19:44:19 <Spaceshot> brun you getting much of the storm?
19:49:09 <Mort-> I'm waiting for my spell book
19:49:22 <Mort-> Need to see if he is running away from me
19:49:29 <Mort-> If he is ill need to chase
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19:50:11 <mortswishytail> Oh dear
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19:51:14 <Mort-> Oh
19:51:20 <Mort-> Yes. My spell book
19:59:48 <Ballig> how about you just get spells like everyone else
19:59:51 <Ballig> and stop freaking out about cheap ones
20:01:06 <Mort-> I want my spells cheap!
20:01:15 <Spaceshot> so?
20:01:17 <Ballig> if it happens it happens, if it doesn't get over it
20:01:27 <Mort-> "Because she is a cheapskate mur"
20:01:29 <Spaceshot> think of all the oracles, bards, sorcs
20:01:34 <Spaceshot> they don't get no extra spells
20:01:49 <Mort-> I also would like to see another high level wizard in action
20:01:54 <Mort-> Might learn new things
20:02:28 <Ballig> or you can learn new things by actually listening to people who give you advice
20:02:33 <Spaceshot> mytaizair is more a sorc than a wiz (since he practically blasts all the time)
20:02:36 <Ballig> and not, you know, using scrolls that require a save
20:02:43 <Ballig> because you "just want to see what happens"
20:03:14 <Mort-> You seen him in action?
20:03:22 <Mort-> Ill be different i think
20:03:23 <Mort-> Quite
20:03:37 <Mort-> Dude. I only did that like once?
20:03:42 <Mort-> Was testing out something
20:04:26 <Ballig> you were testing out what we had already told you
20:04:41 <Ballig> if you absolutely must make the mistakes yourself, seeing someone else "in action" isn't going to help you
20:04:59 <Spaceshot> PFS isn't where you want to test something ut
20:05:01 <Spaceshot> out*
20:05:02 <Mort-> I was more interested in seeing the deny dex part of grease
20:05:19 <Ballig> no one was even in melee with them
20:05:23 <Mort-> Not so about really getting them prone
20:05:36 <Ballig> the only reason that would come into play is if they are provoking AOOs by moving through the grease
20:05:47 <Mort-> K
20:05:54 <Mort-> That piece of info may be useful to know some day
20:06:07 <Mort-> That was what i was trying to learn out of it
20:06:11 <Ballig> yes but you see that by reading the spell description
20:06:14 <Ballig> not by doing it in-game
20:06:29 <Mort-> So?
20:06:32 <Ballig> I don't need to actually cast fireball in a game to know that it will hurt allies in a tight space
20:06:47 <Mort-> Generally i do more or less the right thing
20:07:16 <Mort-> At least i do have a rational explaination for what i do
20:07:51 <Ballig> you have an explanation, I wouldn't call it rational
20:07:52 <Mort-> And to be honest ill rather talk to hydra about it after game
20:08:07 <Mort-> I have other reasons.
20:08:09 <Mort-> Not you
20:08:14 <Mort-> And anyway ill be off
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20:18:38 <OsterGuard> AND IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
20:18:52 <OsterGuard> WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
20:19:03 <OsterGuard> I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
20:20:45 <Spaceshot> I just don't give a damn
20:22:22 <Mekkis|Screen> Ballig, could I get a chronicle sheet for CoTE?
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20:25:02 <Spaceshot> so tomorrow is 1pm?
20:28:09 <Brunius> Thunderstorm just hit now, Spaceshot
20:28:28 <Spaceshot> ahh
20:28:40 <Spaceshot> yea it left about 20-30mins ago
20:28:59 <Brunius> I'm like 1.5hrs from city, so that would seem about right
20:30:27 <DasBot> <@Avatar> matt goodall is nicknamed killer matt << I wish I had a cool DM nickname :(
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20:43:47 <Jumpy142> what does "Saving throw: Reflex half" mean?
20:44:03 <Brunius> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J0OVzERbX4&feature=share
20:44:16 <Brunius> It means they get to make a saving throw
20:44:23 <Brunius> Which is their reflex
20:44:27 <Spaceshot> adding their reflex bonus
20:44:31 <Brunius> If they make that saving throw, they take half
20:44:37 <Spaceshot> vs your spell DC
20:44:38 <Brunius> half damage, usually
20:44:50 <Spaceshot> DC = spell level + caster's casting atribute bonus + feats/effects
20:45:56 <Jumpy142> so my DC would be, for a lvl1 spell, 5?
20:46:17 <Jumpy142> (+4 int)
20:46:25 <Spaceshot> oh, sorry
20:46:27 <Spaceshot> +10 :P
20:46:37 <Spaceshot> so it'd be 15
20:46:38 <Jumpy142> do I roll and add that?
20:46:46 <Spaceshot> no, your DC is a static value
20:46:54 <Spaceshot> they roll reflex against it
20:47:07 <Spaceshot> (it's basically the opposite from saves in 4e)
20:48:10 <Jumpy142> so they make the roll, and add reflex?
20:48:52 <Brunius> yep
20:49:07 <Spaceshot> yes, which for reflex is their base reflex save from their class/es + their dex bonus + any additional effects
20:49:18 <Spaceshot> such as feats, class abilities
20:49:20 <Spaceshot> and whatnot
20:49:37 <Jumpy142> oh no wait, itd be 17 they have to beat, I got those feats to raise Evocation DC by +2
20:49:44 <Spaceshot> you've got spell focus correct?
20:49:59 <Spaceshot> spell focus and greater spell focus?
20:50:10 <Jumpy142> cool
20:50:35 <Spaceshot> this is burning hand's I'm guessing
20:50:42 <Spaceshot> hands*
20:52:24 <Jumpy142> yep
20:52:38 <Jumpy142> exactly right
20:53:36 <Jumpy142> is it not underpowered that Wizards only get like 2 spells per day?
20:53:52 <Spaceshot> wizards are never underpowered
20:54:13 <Spaceshot> you get unlimited uses out of your 0-level spells
20:54:35 <Jumpy142> but they only do like 1d3 damage
20:56:02 <Spaceshot> so? it's 1d3 that has to go against touch
20:56:30 <Brunius> Gunslingers get higher damage that goes against touch :P
20:56:33 <Spaceshot> also, wizards who have a specialisation gain an additional spell slot each spell level that must be filled by that specialisation
20:57:31 <Jumpy142> whats a specialisation
20:58:13 <Spaceshot> tomorrow is going to be funny, an evocator and a pyromaniac oracle
20:58:24 <Spaceshot> (can't cast burning hands till level 2 though)
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21:05:11 <Brunius> Looks like a spammer
21:06:04 <PaulHarris> looooolllll
21:06:04 <PaulHarris> ?
21:07:22 <Jumpy142> What does it mean by "You must succeed on a ranged touch attack with the
21:07:35 <Jumpy142> ray to deal damage to a target.
21:08:47 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Touch-Attacks
21:08:51 <Spaceshot> read that
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21:09:36 <Mort-> Wee
21:09:41 <Spaceshot> just that paragraph about touch attacks :P
21:10:00 <Mort-> What's a shining wayfinder?
21:10:07 <Spaceshot> a 2k gold wayfinder
21:10:09 <Spaceshot> why do you ask?
21:10:27 <Spaceshot> it allows evil detection and stuff
21:10:29 <Mort-> What does it give
21:10:41 <Mort-> The exact stats
21:11:16 <Brunius> Buy the book Mort-
21:11:19 <Jumpy142> thanks
21:11:21 <Mort-> Interesting
21:11:21 <Brunius> It is great
21:11:24 <Brunius> You won't regret it
21:11:25 <Spaceshot> that
21:11:28 <Mort-> When mek or hydra get in
21:11:35 <Mort-> Tell them to find me
21:11:42 <Mort-> Advanced player guide?
21:11:46 <Mort-> Or core book
21:11:48 <Brunius> PFS field guide
21:11:51 <Spaceshot> Mort-: neither
21:11:51 <Spaceshot> that
21:11:55 <Spaceshot> good good item
21:11:57 <Brunius> Mek likely won't be in until about 11
21:12:00 <Spaceshot> why do you want to know what it is?
21:12:09 <Spaceshot> saw it on a forum post about it being awesome?
21:12:27 <Mort-> No problem
21:12:41 * Mort- mews like a cat
21:12:47 <Mort-> Tell tristen too
21:13:03 <Spaceshot> we aren't going to do your dirty work
21:13:05 <Mort-> Why don't you tell me what it does
21:13:13 <Mort-> Ah here we go again.
21:13:16 <Spaceshot> why don't you tell me why you want to know
21:13:45 <Mort-> I want to know how ioun stones work in pathfinder
21:13:52 <Mort-> And resonance effects
21:14:11 <Spaceshot> why does a shining wayfinder matter then?
21:14:12 <Mort-> Why you need or not to slot your ioun stone in a way finder
21:14:30 <Mort-> They said something about ioun stones and way finderp
21:14:31 <Spaceshot> I don't know, I HAVEN'T LOOKED IT UP
21:14:56 <Mort-> Ok
21:15:06 <Spaceshot> a wayfinder is a compass that always shows true north and you can cast light from it
21:15:08 <Mort-> That's why I'm looking for all those 3
21:15:11 <Spaceshot> that's all I'm going to tell you about them
21:15:26 <Spaceshot> Mort-: buy the PDF
21:15:27 <Mort-> It also has a slot for an ioun stone
21:15:34 <Spaceshot> it's like $4-$10
21:15:34 <Mort-> Lol no way :d
21:15:59 <Spaceshot> if you aren't going to care to buy them, we aren't going to care to tell you things that you should have the book for
21:16:51 <Spaceshot> can you find it on the d20pfsrd?
21:17:41 <Spaceshot> if this shuts you up
21:17:43 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/wayfinder-standard
21:17:52 <Spaceshot> there, do your own dirty work from now on
21:18:36 <Jumpy142> ok so I think I get it now, magic generally hits against their will/reflex/fort which they make a roll for, but touch attacks/melee attacks/some magic attacks hit and I roll for them?
21:18:51 <Spaceshot> yup
21:19:08 <Spaceshot> or a buff spell just happens without much of a save needed (like mage armour, shield)
21:19:11 <Spaceshot> same with healing
21:19:22 <Spaceshot> unless you want to damage undead with the healing
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21:19:48 <Jumpy142> with magic touch attacks, do I still add str mod to hit? or is it int instead?
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21:20:29 <Spaceshot> it should be either str or dex
21:20:31 <Jumpy142> also: do I add my int modifier to magic attacks?
21:20:39 <Spaceshot> it's under the touch attack part I linked you
21:20:43 <Spaceshot> nope
21:20:44 <Mort-> Yeah the dc on the spell
21:20:56 <Spaceshot> you don't add anything to the effect of a spell
21:20:56 <Jumpy142> oh right, ranged touch attack. that means I just add 2, right?
21:21:05 <Mort-> Space.Read it already
21:21:06 <Spaceshot> your dex is 14?
21:21:14 <Mort-> Ranged you use your dex mod
21:21:19 <Spaceshot> I said effect
21:21:23 <Spaceshot> DC isn't the effect
21:21:27 <Spaceshot> DC is the DC XD
21:21:50 <Jumpy142> yeah, dex is 14
21:22:09 <Mort-> Missed half of it anyway
21:22:22 <Mort-> Hrhm
21:22:27 <Spaceshot> heh
21:23:29 <Jumpy142> so, int only affects the DC of spells?
21:23:47 <Jumpy142> DC of spell is 10 + Spell lvl + (int) + feats/skills?
21:23:51 <Spaceshot> gives you bonus spells per day
21:23:55 <Spaceshot> yes that is DC
21:24:12 <Jumpy142> I've got the feeling that I chose one of the hardest classes to start off as
21:24:29 <Mort-> They are powerful
21:24:31 <Mort-> Actually
21:24:35 <Spaceshot> they are very good
21:24:38 <Jumpy142> bonus spells per day? I thought it was only bonus spells, doesn't affect spells per day
21:24:40 <Spaceshot> you get a lot of choice in what to do
21:24:45 <Mort-> And if you want difficult try rogue
21:24:51 <Mort-> I haven't tried it yet
21:25:00 <Jumpy142> i have 5 lvl1 spells, but can't I only prepare 2 of them per day?
21:25:07 <Mort-> Even if khaz is a psudeo rogue
21:25:26 <Jumpy142> Challenge accepted: my next character is going to be a rogue
21:25:32 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/ability-scores#TOC-Abilities-and-Spellcasters
21:25:50 <Mort-> Lol
21:25:55 <Spaceshot> Mort-: every class is easy
21:26:03 <Mort-> I don't think i would be caught playing a pure rogue
21:26:08 <Mort-> I suppose
21:26:10 <Spaceshot> if you want to do more than one thing then it gets harder
21:26:16 <Mort-> Just not my taste
21:26:25 <Mort-> I hate being without magic
21:26:43 <Mort-> Don't know how hydra can stand it
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21:27:25 <Spaceshot> Mort-: rogues can get magic
21:27:25 <Jumpy142> are we able to play as NPC classes?
21:27:29 <Spaceshot> Jumpy142: nope
21:28:03 <Mort-> Bit warped and space if you like rogues so much
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21:28:09 <Mort-> Go play one
21:28:25 <Spaceshot> Mort-: you don't have to act like mekkis
21:29:30 <Mort-> You don't have to be actively space either
21:29:30 <Mort-> ^^
21:29:45 <Spaceshot> ...
21:29:47 <Mort-> But oh well whizards
21:30:04 <Spaceshot> without you acting like mekkis, you're actually worth talking to and nicely entertaining
21:30:06 <Spaceshot> XD
21:30:28 <Jumpy142> hey, I get 7 lvl1 spells
21:30:31 <Mort-> I read the wayfinder bit already
21:30:33 <Mort-> As in before i even asked you
21:30:35 <Mort-> You don't
21:30:38 <Jumpy142> I had thought for some reason I only got 5
21:31:15 <Jumpy142> any suggestions for the other 2 spells?
21:31:18 <Mort-> As in you can't prepare them all
21:31:19 <Mort-> I can't remember how many spells i started with
21:31:27 <Mort-> What spells do you have
21:32:01 <Jumpy142> I can't prepare them all, but I can choose from them
21:32:17 <Mort-> Yes 7 is right
21:32:21 <Mort-> Correct so what do you have already
21:32:55 <Jumpy142> I have Mage armor, Magic Missile, Burning Hands, Floating disc and Charm Person
21:33:16 <Mort-> Colour spray/sleep
21:33:22 <Mort-> And maybe shield
21:33:28 <Spaceshot> Mort-: let him choose his spells
21:33:32 <Mort-> I'm sort of defensive by nature
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21:33:34 <Mort-> He asked
21:33:35 <Spaceshot> it's better for him to decide on his own
21:33:40 <Mort-> For suggestions
21:33:44 <Spaceshot> :P
21:33:49 <Jumpy142> Opposite: Illusion and Necromancy
21:33:50 <Spaceshot> yes, but 2 is enough
21:33:51 <Mort-> I'm just doing as he told me to do ^^
21:33:53 <Spaceshot> haha see
21:33:58 <Spaceshot> no spray/sleep
21:34:27 <Mort-> Sleep is not
21:34:32 <Jumpy142> sleep is enchantment
21:34:32 <Mort-> Either
21:34:35 <Mort-> Yes
21:34:39 <Spaceshot> oh yea
21:34:46 <Mort-> But the one round casting time me no like
21:34:47 <Jumpy142> I'm thinking Summon Monster I
21:34:49 <Mort-> But again.
21:35:00 <Mort-> Ok I'm not supposed to say anything
21:35:30 <Spaceshot> summon can be fun
21:35:31 <Mort-> Even if its to your advantage because space told me not to intefere :p
21:35:44 <Spaceshot> Mort-: you would suggest him not taking SM1
21:36:17 <Mort-> I didn't say anything!
21:36:37 <Jumpy142> how do I edit my character sheet on the website?
21:36:45 <Spaceshot> which website?
21:36:47 <Mort-> Just re upload it
21:36:52 <Mort-> When you are done
21:37:24 <Jumpy142> pfrpg.com.au
21:37:47 <Spaceshot> ah yea
21:38:12 <Jumpy142> ah ok
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21:41:17 <Jumpy142> do you think ward would be a good 7th spell?
21:41:31 <Jumpy142> or endure elements?
21:41:41 <Spaceshot> maybe
21:42:04 <Brunius> Endure Elements is better as a scroll
21:42:18 <Spaceshot> doesn't it only last 10mins/level?
21:42:39 <Jumpy142> 24 hours
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21:44:05 <Jumpy142> by ward: I mean alarm
21:44:35 <Spaceshot> alarm isn't usually needed in PFS, like it might be
21:44:38 <Spaceshot> but dunno
21:45:13 <Jumpy142> or should I get another damaging spell?
21:45:24 <Jumpy142> feather fall
21:45:42 <Spaceshot> maybe
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21:47:50 <Jumpy142> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=391
21:48:14 <Mort-> K
21:48:15 <Mort-> Think ill go for now
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21:51:38 <Jumpy142> hey, how much would a dolphin weigh>
21:51:52 <Spaceshot> hahaha
21:51:59 <Spaceshot> dolphin bomb?
21:51:59 <Jumpy142> 300kg?
21:52:03 <Spaceshot> maybe
21:53:04 <Spaceshot> I need to finish my gnome
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21:55:09 <Jumpy142> because you know, you can cast Summon monster 25ft. + 5ft./2 lvls away, why not as high above an enemy that it'll just have time to hit them before desummoning
21:55:14 <Jumpy142> that would hurt
21:55:30 <Spaceshot> yup
21:55:47 <Spaceshot> problem is, summon monster has a casting time of 1 round
21:56:01 <Spaceshot> spells that have a casting time of 1 round finish being cast at the start of your next turn
21:56:30 <Jumpy142> if you know they're not going to move anytime soon
21:56:46 <Spaceshot> true
21:56:49 <Spaceshot> :P
21:56:56 <Spaceshot> or maybe it's just to make them move :P
21:57:27 <Brunius> "Don't move into the pit, please"
21:57:33 <Brunius> "It would really ruin my day"
21:57:38 <Brunius> "Oh look, a dolphin..."
21:59:22 <Spaceshot> hm... should I go 8/10/14/14/7/20 or 8/14/14/14/8/18 for my pyro oracle?
22:00:23 <Brunius> Go 10/10/10/16/10/18
22:00:24 <Jumpy142> yes
22:00:32 <Jumpy142> I know what I'm talking about
22:00:36 <Jumpy142> you should do the things
22:00:57 <Spaceshot> you do realise I'm a gnome right?
22:01:21 <Jumpy142> I like my idea better
22:02:47 <Jumpy142> I'm off to bed now, night all
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22:03:27 <Steven_> hey
22:03:43 <Spaceshot> sup
22:04:40 <Steven_> totally just woke up from a sex coma
22:04:56 <Steven_> sam was like i had a bad day, come snuggle with me
22:04:58 <Ballig> you can just say coma
22:04:58 <Ballig> :p
22:05:01 <Spaceshot> :P
22:05:05 <Steven_> no
22:05:07 <Spaceshot> so saddening
22:05:07 <Steven_> i cant
22:05:18 <Steven_> it wasnt a coma, it was a sex coma
22:05:22 <Ballig> we don't need intimate details of your sex life
22:05:40 <Steven_> a regular coma wouldnt have me cracing a sandwich
22:05:48 <Steven_> craving even
22:05:54 <Ballig> pretty sure if you were in a coma you'd wake up hungry
22:06:06 <Steven_> yeah, but not specifically for a sandwich
22:06:26 <Steven_> so you guys do anything fun?
22:06:35 <Spaceshot> not really
22:06:37 <Brunius> Not really
22:06:39 <Spaceshot> the game never got off the ground
22:06:41 <Steven_> im sorry to hear that
22:06:46 <Spaceshot> but Jumpy is ready for tomorrow
22:06:52 <Steven_> cool
22:07:08 <Brunius> Jumpy can't make tomorrow
22:07:11 <Brunius> At the market...
22:07:12 <Ballig> are you playing with us tomorrow steven
22:07:13 <Spaceshot> which is why I need to finish my pyro gnome
22:07:18 <Spaceshot> oh yea, sunday then
22:07:22 <Spaceshot> whatev, he's good to go from now on :P
22:07:53 <Steven_> i thought on sunday was perils of the pirate pact
22:08:18 <Spaceshot> no that's sat IIRC
22:08:20 <Ballig> tomorrow is perils
22:08:24 <Ballig> day after is frozen fingers of midnight
22:08:24 <Spaceshot> yea
22:08:38 <Spaceshot> which will be either Ava or the new gnmoe
22:08:40 <Spaceshot> gnome*
22:08:48 <Spaceshot> depending on what tier is wanted
22:08:59 <Steven_> okay
22:09:19 <Steven_> everybody rockin a gnome?
22:09:31 <Steven_> let have an all gnome game
22:10:05 <Steven_> my room mates fried chicken pretty good
22:10:08 <Ballig> you should use the scheduler if you know you will or won't be at a game Steven
22:10:29 <Spaceshot> room mate? thought you lived with sam
22:10:42 <Steven_> yes, and sam and i live with another couple
22:10:51 <Steven_> Jerry and Amy
22:10:52 <Spaceshot> ahh
22:10:56 <Steven_> pretty cool peoples
22:12:09 <Spaceshot> only ever lived with a roommate once, and it was aweful (but the I believe it was the person being the issue)
22:12:51 <Steven_> sam said i can play in Perils of the pirate pact
22:12:56 <Spaceshot> lucky you
22:12:59 <Spaceshot> :P
22:13:10 <Steven_> she wants to hang with her friends tonight
22:13:23 <Steven_> really, i didnt have to ask
22:13:23 <Spaceshot> Steven_:
22:13:27 <Steven_> i went to the schedule
22:13:29 <Spaceshot> hm... should I go 8/10/14/14/7/20 or 8/14/14/14/8/18 for my pyro oracle?
22:13:36 <Spaceshot> gnome (including bonuses)
22:14:06 <Steven_> she saw and she was like, oh fine you can play since ill behanging with my friends for most of the time
22:14:27 <Spaceshot> isn't it early in the morning for you?
22:14:33 <Spaceshot> like 6-9am?
22:14:37 <Steven_> no
22:14:49 <Spaceshot> wow I'm way off then
22:14:50 <Steven_> like 7 or 8
22:14:53 <Steven_> pm
22:15:08 <Spaceshot> thursday or friday?
22:15:15 <Steven_> friday
22:15:22 <Spaceshot> ???? THE FUCK ARE YOU?
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22:16:10 <Steven_> im in idaho
22:16:15 <Spaceshot> ??
22:16:19 <Brunius> -17 from us, Spaceshot
22:16:25 <Brunius> Or is it -16?
22:16:38 <Spaceshot> yea that's what I was betting
22:16:46 <Steven_> im at -8
22:16:56 <Spaceshot> -18
22:16:57 <Spaceshot> :P
22:17:05 <Brunius> -18, means 7pm, I think
22:17:22 <Spaceshot> no it means 4 hrs later in time, 1 day behind
22:17:24 <Spaceshot> so 2am
22:17:29 <Spaceshot> currently
22:17:38 <Brunius> Screw it, what time is it now?
22:17:51 <Spaceshot> wait... 6hrs ahead and minus 1 day
22:17:56 <Spaceshot> which'd be 4am
22:17:56 <Spaceshot> :P
22:18:22 <Spaceshot> in theory
22:19:29 <Spaceshot> but yea, what time is it now?
22:19:32 <Spaceshot> Steven_:
22:20:13 <Steven_> sup
22:20:31 <Spaceshot> what time is it where you are?
22:20:37 <Steven_> 520am
22:20:43 <Spaceshot> yea I was close
22:20:45 <Spaceshot> :P
22:23:27 <Brunius> Are you kiddies on daylight savings?
22:29:33 <Brunius> Why do I call everyone kiddies
22:29:50 <Brunius> Hell, I think I'm the youngest here, assuming Phly is gone
22:46:38 <OsterGuard> 15, right?
22:46:54 <Brunius> Jaja
22:46:58 <OsterGuard> Haha
22:47:02 <OsterGuard> I'm still older
22:47:19 <OsterGuard> Your birthday is after june?
22:47:49 <Brunius> Novemeber
22:47:56 <OsterGuard> I win :D
22:47:58 <OsterGuard> :P
22:48:07 <OsterGuard> How old is this Phly?
22:48:34 <Steven_> I feel old right now
22:48:45 <OsterGuard> you should
22:48:58 <OsterGuard> Ooh!
22:49:00 <Steven_> but then again
22:49:04 <OsterGuard> I can help if you want
22:49:11 <Steven_> i can buy alcohol
22:49:12 <OsterGuard> 2002 was 10 years ago
22:49:30 <Steven_> so i suppose there are benefits
22:49:34 <Brunius> How old are you steven?
22:49:36 <OsterGuard> And the kids born in 2000 are 12 now
22:49:42 <Steven_> 29
22:50:04 <Brunius> You know Terminator 2 came out 20 years ago?
22:50:09 <Steven_> gonna be 30 in just a few months
22:50:19 <Brunius> Jurassic Park 18 years ago?
22:50:37 <Spaceshot> :P
22:50:42 <Spaceshot> as old as avatar :P
22:50:45 <Spaceshot> or close enough
22:51:03 <Steven_> i was alive for the first terminator movie
22:51:24 <Spaceshot> heh
22:51:32 <Spaceshot> I'm only a youngin
22:51:35 <Spaceshot> <20
22:51:40 <Spaceshot> I mean, I'm 20 XD
22:52:00 <Ballig> I too was alive for the first terminator movie
22:52:08 <Spaceshot> old farts
22:52:08 <Spaceshot> XD
22:52:29 <Spaceshot> guess the age of my missus Steven_
22:52:37 <Steven_> so whats everyon doin today?
22:52:38 <Ballig> 34
22:52:40 <Steven_> or tonight
22:52:48 <Spaceshot> playing me some hon
22:52:55 <Spaceshot> and dreading actually going to sleep
22:52:57 <Steven_> 18?
22:52:59 <Spaceshot> but that's just the norm XD
22:53:03 <Spaceshot> Steven_: nope
22:53:24 <Spaceshot> I'll give you a hit, I live with her, in melb, away from her family in adelaide
22:53:28 <Steven_> i made my guess
22:53:36 <Steven_> im not makin a game out of it
22:53:40 <Spaceshot> aww
22:53:41 <Spaceshot> BALLS
22:53:43 <Spaceshot> 24
22:53:50 <Ballig> why would that be a hint
22:54:01 <Ballig> in fact, that hints at her being 16
22:54:06 <Spaceshot> it's easily more than 18 :P
22:54:11 <Spaceshot> wha?
22:54:14 <Spaceshot> doubtful
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22:54:27 <Ballig> "away from her family" suggests that she would have some reason to live with her family
22:55:20 <Spaceshot> nah she misses them a lot
22:55:38 <Spaceshot> but she also realises adelaide doesn't have all the opportunities in the world
22:55:57 <Mort-> Mek?
22:56:02 <Mort-> Trist?
22:56:05 <Mort-> Hydra?
22:56:10 <Spaceshot> nope
22:56:11 <Spaceshot> XD
22:56:12 <Ballig> Mort-?
22:56:24 <Steven_> herro
22:56:43 <Spaceshot> Ballig: mort wants someone to tell her what a shining wayfinder is/does, and to tell her what ioun stones in a wayfinder does
22:57:01 <Ballig> an ioun stone in a wayfinder is exactly like an ioun stone outside of a wayfinder
22:57:05 <Steven_> thats easy
22:57:06 <Ballig> except people can't grab it out of the air around you
22:57:33 <Mort-> Oh
22:57:36 <Spaceshot> and what resonance does
22:57:38 <Steven_> or sunder it
22:57:45 <Mort-> Can you have more then one circling you?
22:57:48 <Ballig> shining wayfinder is detect evil
22:57:50 <Ballig> yeah, you can
22:57:54 <Mort-> Cool
22:58:10 <Ballig> looks like the shining wayfinder also casts protection from evil once a day
22:58:12 <Mort-> So you can have all the +2 stones
22:58:21 <Steven_> resonance is sound that is deep and reverberating?
22:58:23 <Ballig> yeah, but it's expensive
22:58:24 <Mort-> Circling you
22:58:26 <Mort-> ?
22:58:28 <Ballig> because they don't take up a slot
22:58:31 <Mort-> To give you bonus?
22:58:39 <Ballig> yeah
22:58:46 <Ballig> but the bonuses are unlikely to stack with things like headbands/belts
22:58:56 <Ballig> because they're enhancement
22:59:24 <Mort-> One wis stone
22:59:32 <Mort-> One int hat?
22:59:45 <Mort-> What is resonance
23:00:08 <Mort-> Each way finder can house one stone
23:00:10 <Ballig> basically it's some extra ability the wayfinder can give you if a certain type of ioun stone is inside it
23:00:34 <Ballig> so for example, if an amber spindle is inside a wayfinder there is a 5% chance per reflex saving throw of granting the wearer evasion against that effect
23:00:59 <Steven_> So how bout them dodgers?
23:01:25 <Ballig> Mort-: some wayfinders hold more than one
23:01:26 <Ballig> but they cost a bit
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23:01:52 <Steven_> if memory serves theres one that can hold 3
23:02:02 <Mort-> If you keep 10 way finders
23:02:03 <Mort-> With 10 stones adding to different stuff
23:02:10 <Mort-> You can get bonus from all 10?
23:02:26 <Avatar> didn't quite finish that second game
23:02:33 <Mort-> How was it
23:02:49 <Ballig> not sure, Mort-. would have to look up whether you need to be holding the wayfinder
23:03:03 <Mort-> Where would the information be
23:03:29 <Spaceshot> field guide
23:03:32 <Steven_> i dont think anyone has ever tried to load up on wayfinders before
23:03:42 <Spaceshot> or in the srd under ioun stones
23:03:43 <Steven_> because any of the good ones are super expensive
23:04:22 <Mort-> Well i don't want my precious stones smashed
23:04:30 <Steven_> the basic wayfinder is 500g and its effects dont stack
23:04:59 <Mort-> So you can't have 10 wayfinders and 10 stones?
23:05:26 <Mort-> What's the better wayfinder
23:05:43 * Mort- twitches
23:06:15 <Steven_> theres quite a few of em
23:06:24 <Mort-> Tell tell!
23:06:29 <Steven_> at least 4
23:06:38 <Mort-> Can you have 10 ioun stones dangling over your head?
23:06:51 <Spaceshot> yes mort
23:06:55 <Mort-> I mean. I rather not. Someone will steal them :(
23:07:01 <Spaceshot> that's where the other thing comes in
23:07:01 <Steven_> or sunder then
23:07:03 <Steven_> them
23:07:06 <Mort-> Yeah
23:07:13 <Spaceshot> if you have 2 stones that give you +2 con, you get +4con
23:07:20 <Mort-> So. We need a way finder.
23:07:33 <Spaceshot> they are cheap
23:07:46 <Spaceshot> 250g for a pathfinder
23:07:50 <Mort-> But if you are carrying the wayfinder. You get the stones bonus?
23:07:53 <Mort-> Sure?
23:07:55 <Spaceshot> it's under always available magic items in the organised play rules
23:07:58 <Mort-> Sure!
23:08:02 <Mort-> Time to buy one!
23:08:38 <Steven_> the stones only stack if they dont grant the same type of bonus
23:08:41 <Mort-> But having 2 wayfinders with different stones doesn't stack right
23:08:44 <Mort-> Sure
23:08:51 <Mort-> Ill take that!
23:08:52 <Steven_> if you have two stones granting enhancement to con they dont stack
23:09:16 <Mort-> I have one to dex. One to reflex saves
23:09:30 <Ballig> the resonance stacks though
23:09:31 <Mort-> I have 2 way finders
23:09:32 <Mort-> Good to go?
23:09:50 <Mort-> Explain resonance because i have no bwains
23:09:53 <Spaceshot> have you read the information yourself? or are you just going by what we've told you?
23:10:04 <Mort-> I can't read that information
23:10:06 <Spaceshot> READ THE MATERIAL YOURSELF RATHER THAN ASKING US 100000 QUESTIONS
23:10:10 <Mort-> I read everything
23:10:19 <Mort-> I could find on d20
23:10:25 <Ballig> she doesn't have any books
23:10:27 <Spaceshot> get the pdf then
23:10:29 <Mort-> On that topic
23:10:37 <Spaceshot> gimme a sec mort
23:10:58 <Mort-> I'm also on cell
23:11:18 <Mort-> Afking bath
23:15:24 <Spaceshot> so...
23:15:34 <Spaceshot> do you usually stay up late Steven_?
23:15:54 * Steven_ shrugs
23:28:50 <Spaceshot> also, lrn2pm XD
23:32:23 <Steven_> totaly over rated
23:32:26 <Avatar> had to use that shirt reroll
23:32:37 <Spaceshot> haha
23:32:37 <Avatar> twice I think
23:33:13 <Spaceshot> heh
23:33:52 <Spaceshot> Steven_: I mean learn to check PMs :P
23:34:19 <Spaceshot> Avatar: did you play any with buck?
23:34:27 <Avatar> no, both with Snickers
23:34:28 <Mort-> Back
23:34:34 <Avatar> none of these jokers had high level characters
23:34:38 <Avatar> bunch of people with 5s
23:34:39 <Spaceshot> :P
23:34:45 <Mort-> Rough?
23:34:46 <Avatar> and nobody really wanted to uptier
23:34:47 <Mort-> Or easy
23:34:50 <Spaceshot> softies
23:34:57 <Avatar> challenging
23:35:01 <Mort-> Wow
23:35:02 <Steven_> bunch of wusses?
23:35:06 <Mort-> Sleep cdg :p
23:35:30 <Mort-> Favourite snickers jerus combo
23:35:46 <Mort-> Don't laugh. Its quite sick
23:36:11 <Avatar> yeah the regular tactics went out the window
23:36:36 <Spaceshot> were the poeple's characters built well?
23:36:42 <Avatar> yeah
23:36:46 <Avatar> no flaws anywhere
23:36:58 <Mort-> Wow
23:37:43 <Avatar> uptiering was hinging on mekkis playing grolschmir and/or me playing cairo
23:37:53 <Avatar> both of which weren't terrific options
23:38:31 <Spaceshot> heh
23:38:35 <Mort-> Killer scenario!
23:38:35 <Mort-> And everyone has flaws
23:38:35 <Mort-> Its just where
23:38:35 <Mort-> I see
23:38:35 <Mort-> Mek played myz then?
23:38:35 <Mort-> Which scenario
23:38:39 <OsterGuard> I should be playing tomorrow
23:38:47 <Mort-> I will be out tomorrow
23:38:49 <Avatar> OsterGuard: accept the invite
23:38:50 <Mort-> Sadly though
23:38:54 <OsterGuard> ahh
23:38:55 <OsterGuard> yeah
23:38:55 <Avatar> Mort-: decline the invite
23:38:59 <Mort-> Did
23:39:01 <Mort-> Already
23:39:06 <Mort-> Accepted on Sunday
23:39:08 <Mort-> Good luck
23:39:16 <OsterGuard> how do I accept?
23:39:20 Mort- has quit (EOF from client)
23:39:20 <Avatar> log in
23:39:23 <Avatar> click schedule
23:39:23 Mort- ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
23:39:27 <Avatar> click on the game/date
23:39:29 <Mort-> Sigh
23:39:31 <Avatar> click decline
23:39:33 <OsterGuard> And I should be able to play sunday too
23:39:39 <Avatar> you should see a big bad red bar when you log in
23:39:40 <Mort-> I did click decline
23:39:46 <Avatar> saying click accept or decline
23:40:40 <Mort-> My oh my
23:46:55 <Mort-> Osterguard.
23:47:00 <Mort-> Good luck!
23:47:01 <Avatar> I made a rather large fuckup with Snickers
23:47:07 <OsterGuard> what?
23:47:07 <Avatar> I've got a trait that requires me to take a hex I don't want
23:47:12 <OsterGuard> D:
23:47:19 <Avatar> if I don't take the hex, the trait is useless
23:47:32 <Mort-> And see you on Sunday!
23:47:46 <Spaceshot> what trait?
23:48:14 <OsterGuard> :D
23:48:16 <Avatar> aid another gives +3 instead of +2
23:48:22 <Avatar> I guess that can be useful for skills
23:48:35 <Spaceshot> aiding diplomacy
23:48:36 <Spaceshot> :P
23:48:45 <Mekkis> with a whip, aiding in combat
23:48:52 <Avatar> it was made worse by the fact jaggedsoul found a different trait that gives +4 instead of +2 on aid another
23:48:52 <Mekkis> but you're not that kind of person
23:48:58 <Mort-> Mekkis!
23:48:59 <Avatar> really
23:49:03 <Avatar> because I'm talking about taking a hex
23:49:07 <Mort-> Yay you are back!
23:49:11 <Avatar> can I use a whip without proficiency
23:49:11 <Mekkis> yeah
23:49:19 <Mekkis> and I'm going to sleep very soon
23:49:28 <Mekkis> do you know if Brunius will be at conquest tomorrow
23:49:37 <Spaceshot> good chance not
23:50:09 <Avatar> he said he was tempted
23:50:19 <Spaceshot> oh?
23:52:02 <Mekkis> I have about 800 magic cards here for him
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