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00:03 <Brunius> Er
00:05 <Brunius> 19 int
00:06 <Steven> not in pfs
00:07 <Spaceshot> Brunius: that's 3.5
00:12 <Spaceshot> PFS is just a +2 to one stat
00:17 <Spaceshot> makes them more desireable
00:31 <Brunius> Huh, ok
00:36 <Spaceshot> skimmer
00:44 <Jumpy142> If I move a point from con to dex I'll have a point left over
01:25 <Mort-> Valid
01:32 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot: get to games laboratory, 365 Bourke St.
01:33 <Mort-> Half orc is like half elf
01:35 <Mort-> Add 
01:36 <MekkisScreen> now 
01:38 <MekkisScreen> :)
01:45 <Mort-> 2 to the stat of your choice
01:51 <Mort-> No negative stat
02:07 <Jumpy142> Wait what?
02:08 <Mort-> Stats are valid
02:21 <Jumpy142> I've only got the one point if I move con to dex
02:31 <Steven> okay so
02:42 <Steven> how about 9,14, 14, 19, 12, 7
03:04 <Jumpy142> Sounds like a plan
03:09 <Steven> str is a dead stat for wiz
03:23 <Mort-> Yeah probably
03:34 <Mort-> Just buy yourself a mount
03:34 <Mort-> Dump all the stuff on
03:37 <Steven> and you can end up using a bow
03:38 <Mort-> Matter settled
03:59 <Jumpy142> Fair enough
04:03 <Spaceshot> that's better
04:08 <Mort-> Damn it
04:16 <Jumpy142> Ok, so stats are good. Now, what languages to choose...
04:17 <Spaceshot> you need reasonable str to carry around all your rods/wands/staves/wanderous
04:21 <Mort-> I got side tracked from shopping
04:52 <Mort-> I stuck with the standard stud
04:52 <Mort-> Stuff
05:02 <Mort-> That's why later you get a bag of holding
05:39 <Steven> thats right
05:42 <Jumpy142> I didn't get abyssal, does anyone even use that?
05:42 <Steven> bag of holdings rock
05:49 <Steven> yeah abyssal pretty good
06:30 <Spaceshot> Steven: can you upgrade rods like +x magic items?
06:31 <Jumpy142> Ok... Now to choose skills...
06:32 <Steven> gnoll is of lesser use
06:36 <Mort-> I have angelic and demonic languages
06:36 <Mort-> On my wizard
06:36 <Mort-> I might take elemental languages as well
06:54 <Jumpy142> How do I skills?
07:43 <Steven> i would pick Abyssal, draconic, goblin, and giant
07:57 <Jumpy142> Yep, that's what I got
08:04 <Spaceshot> you get a number of skill points equal to your classes alotment (wizard is 2 I think) + your int bonus
08:10 <Spaceshot> you get that many each level
08:19 <Jumpy142> Oh ok
08:27 <Spaceshot> your maximum ranks in a skill is your total character level
08:37 <Steven> 2+4+favored if you take it
09:02 <Steven> which.... as wizard you should def take 1hp instead
09:19 <Spaceshot> or +1/2fire damage :P
09:26 <Steven> first level
09:28 <Steven> 1hp
09:28 <Spaceshot> if you're going a pyro :P
09:41 <Steven> will give him 9hp
09:43 <Jumpy142> What are these things you're saying?
09:44 <Mort-> I've never taken the skill point
09:44 <Mort-> Honestly
09:45 <Mort-> Whatever character i played
09:54 <Jumpy142> Favoured?
10:05 <Steven> i usually take a skill point after 2nd level
10:55 <Steven> because usually that 1hp is 10% of your life at first level, and then ~5% at second
11:09 <Steven> after that its usually like 2% so its not worth it
11:15 <Spaceshot> eh
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11:33 <Steven> so the 1skill point worth it
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11:46 <Steven> or the alternate favored
11:53 Avatar` is now known as Avatar
12:42 <Spaceshot> for a wiz probably the skill point isn't worth it
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12:45 <Spaceshot> but the alternate can be
12:51 <Steven> yeah
13:13 <Spaceshot> but in general that 1hp isn't always worth it
13:34 <Steven> over the course of your character you will get 12 hp
13:47 <Jumpy142> So I can only take a max of 1 lvl in a skill at lvl 1?
13:49 <Steven> and most classes will have 100hp
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14:02 <Steven> so 10% more hp
15:04 <Jumpy142> ?
15:52 <Spaceshot> Jumpy142: yes
15:57 <Jumpy142> I
16:00 <Jumpy142> K
16:27 <Jumpy142> What should I spend my 6 points in?
16:41 <Steven> spell craft
16:45 <Spaceshot> spellcraft and knowledge arcane are a must
16:50 <Spaceshot> anything else is up to you
17:19 <Jumpy142> Fly, linguistics, spellcraft, knowledge arcane, knowledge geography, knowledge history
17:23 <Jumpy142> Ok?
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17:35 <Steven> kick the geography and history
17:40 <Spaceshot> Jumpy142: I'm not sure, but I don't think you can technically take fly
17:51 <Jumpy142> Book says I can
17:51 <Steven> put a point in proffession
17:54 <Spaceshot> Steven: are you actually allowed to take fly?
18:00 <Spaceshot> profession or craft
18:03 <Steven> yes
18:22 <Steven> as wizard you can put ranks in fly and its totaly worth is
18:22 <Spaceshot> really? fly says you require an ability to fly before you can take skill ranks in it
18:26 <Mort-> Fly is a class skill for wizards
18:40 <Steven> you cant put points into it unless its a class skill
18:47 <Steven> unless you have a fly speed
19:05 <Spaceshot> really?
19:06 <Spaceshot> you sure?
19:07 <Steven> yeah
19:16 <Mort-> And I'm going to fly
19:22 <Steven> you are ALWAYS allowed to put ranks into a class skill
19:23 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/fly
19:25 <Spaceshot> nope
19:40 <Jumpy142> I'm doing it anyway
19:42 <Jumpy142> So there ha
19:45 <Spaceshot> fly specifically says you cannot put ranks into this skill unless you have a natural means of flying or gliding
19:59 <Steven> Creatures can also take ranks in Fly if they possess a reliable means of flying every day (either through a spell or other magical manner, such as a druid’s wild shape ability).
20:02 <Jumpy142> So feat now?
20:07 <Mort-> You won't need it so fast
20:09 <Spaceshot> where does it say that?
20:16 <Mort-> Not till at least 5
20:27 <Spaceshot> ah
20:31 <Steven> the very next sentence. 
20:31 <Spaceshot> but he doesn't have the spell yet
20:32 <Mort-> Or at least you can't fly normalky before
20:33 <Spaceshot> so technically he can't
20:36 <Jumpy142> What should I do with schools, should I choose one?
20:40 <Spaceshot> can you save ranks anymore?
20:44 <Steven> technically he could get a spell
20:48 <Steven> nope
20:55 <Spaceshot> Jumpy142: if you want to, it depends what type of wizard you want to be
20:56 <Steven> cant save spells
21:09 <Spaceshot> you mean skills right?
21:12 <Steven> jumpy you have to choose a school or become a generalist
21:23 <Steven> unless your archtype allows to you forgo picking
21:27 <Jumpy142> Just the one school?
21:37 <Jumpy142> Or can I pick a couple?
21:50 <Steven> if memory serves theres one that allows two schools
22:03 <Spaceshot> I thought that was sorc
22:21 <Spaceshot> sorc has an archetype that allows 2 bloodlines
22:21 <Steven> could also become an elementalist
22:25 <Jumpy142> Ah well. He's an evoker now
22:52 <Spaceshot> elementist's have a very limited spell list, unless they combine lists
23:08 <Steven> be careful with that evoker
23:29 <Jumpy142> Where do I put the school, on the character sheet?
23:30 <Mort-> I don't believe in evocation
23:36 <Mort-> But that's me for you
23:38 <Steven> you really should go and look at spell lists
23:42 <Steven> before you pick a school
23:57 <Jumpy142> Steven: nope!
24:14 <Spaceshot> so burning hands then
24:16 <Spaceshot> ?
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24:23 <Jumpy142> Steven: I've got a picture in my mind, and that's what I've got planned for him
24:26 <Spaceshot> because magic missile is Conjuration(force)
24:28 <Steven> okay, I'm going to give you a piece of advice you should really pay attention to though
25:26 <Jumpy142> Ok go
25:38 <Steven> If you dont take your time and really research your character while making it, you will be under powered compared to people who did.  You will lag behind in power levels and end up having less fun because your character will be less useful then theirs.  
26:12 <Spaceshot> case in point, Cairo(avatar) and Kaleb(Brunius)
26:30 <Steven> or my character Folnor
26:34 <Mort-> The problem is that on that argument
26:35 <Brunius> What
26:49 <Brunius> Yeah
26:54 <Brunius> Kaleb got really screwed
26:55 <Mort-> Your asking someone who hasn't played an instrument to direct an ochestra
27:13 <Mort-> Which is unfair because there are so many things you won't know
27:18 <Mort-> Until you actually do it
27:25 <Jumpy142> I think I'll just have enough fun roleplaying :D
27:30 <Mort-> I wouldn't be too concerned about min max
27:36 <Steven> Its not min maxing mort
27:41 <Mort-> Its not fair to expect everyone to do it
27:47 <Steven> its making sure you're not shooting yourself in the foot
27:57 <Mort-> Well stats wise looks ok
28:14 <Mort-> Everyone btw says that being an Universalist wizard sucks
28:33 <Mort-> They are probably right. But again I'm still alive at level 6
28:50 <Steven> Comparatively it does suck
29:05 <Mort-> They also say you should get a bonded item instead of a familiar. But i prefer a familiar thank you very much
29:11 <Steven> but you're a wizard so as long as you can prepare haste you've still got uses
29:15 <Mort-> Because i like having a furry buddy around
29:54 <Jumpy142> I gotta toad! Im'ma name him Toady!
30:09 <Steven> jumpy
30:26 <Steven> just make sure you dont choose Transmutation as your opposition school alright?
30:42 <Jumpy142> Ok
30:50 <Jumpy142> What's an opposition school?
31:01 <Mort-> Something you will rather not use
31:09 <Steven> when you pick a school, in your case evocation
31:14 <Mort-> Because it takes 2 spell slots to prepare instead of one
31:27 <Steven> you have to pick two schools that are harder for you to cast
31:38 <[1]Jumpy142> ok...
31:39 <Steven> and they take 2 spell slots instead of one
31:53 <Mort-> That doesn't apply to me though. Simply because i have no school
32:04 <[1]Jumpy142> (just joined with my laptop rather than iPhone)
32:04 <Steven> so dont pick transmutation, because 2 spell slots per haste is terrible
32:05 <Mort-> Probably lost something along the way
32:15 <Mort-> Not sure what though
32:15 <Steven> and will make people punch you in the baby maker
32:26 <Mort-> Just wand it :p
32:44 <Steven> cool abilities mostly mort
32:46 <Mort-> I don't prepare haste yet
33:05 <[1]Jumpy142> ok, so what now? I've chosen my school and familiar
33:11 <[1]Jumpy142> go for feats?
33:14 <Mort-> Personally think that buff spells should be scrolled/wanded
33:21 <Mort-> 1 feat for you
33:26 <Mort-> Choose whatever you like
33:44 <Mort-> A good suggestion would be toughness
33:54 <Mort-> Cairo imo isn't under powered though
33:59 <Steven> um....
34:07 <Steven> mort a wand of haste costs like 11k
34:11 <Mort-> Extra hp never hurt.
34:26 <Mort-> Do without it then.
34:26 <Mort-> I don't load haste
34:36 <Mort-> At least. Not yet.
34:50 <Steven> as long as theres another arcane caster around you dont need to
35:12 <Steven> but haste>any other spell of that level
35:12 <[1]Jumpy142> would Arcane Strike be a good idea>
35:19 <[1]Jumpy142> I cast arcane right?
35:24 <Mort-> You never
35:29 <Mort-> Want to engage in melee
35:36 <Steven> ever
35:37 <Mort-> Not with your ac
35:37 <[1]Jumpy142> oh right
35:47 <[1]Jumpy142> I thought it was adding to spell damage
35:54 <Steven> you rockin d6 buddy... you leave melee to the d10s
36:03 <[1]Jumpy142> yep
36:06 <[1]Jumpy142> d12s?
36:11 <Mort-> I tell you i tell people i play with you couldn't pay me enough to get into melee
36:14 <Mort-> Rare
36:24 <Steven> just barbs
36:29 <Mort-> You'll need to find barb /rdds
36:31 <Steven> and i call barbs Yo Yos
36:44 <Steven> because they're up and then down and then up and then down and then up and then down
37:20 <[1]Jumpy142> Whats critical Focus?
37:29 <Mort-> Melee stuff
37:36 <[1]Jumpy142> ok
37:55 <Steven> you should probably look into something that increases the DC of your spell
38:09 <Spaceshot> spell focus
38:12 <[1]Jumpy142> Dodge?
38:39 <Steven> dodge is mostly for agile melee classes
38:44 <Steven> and rangers
38:45 <[1]Jumpy142> whats a save DC?
38:46 <Mort-> Your ac is crap
38:55 <Mort-> You'll never want to even think about it
39:00 <[1]Jumpy142> kk
39:02 <Steven> I would suggest Spell Focus Evocation
39:05 <Mort-> You cast a colour spray at me
39:20 <Mort-> Urm ok make it burning hands
39:21 <Steven> it adds +1 to the save DC of your evocation spells
39:34 <Steven> so instead of me having to roll a 17 to save against the effect
39:36 <Mort-> Your dc is 16
39:38 <Steven> ive got to roll an 18
39:46 <[1]Jumpy142> ah ok
39:51 <[1]Jumpy142> Sure, I'll get that
40:12 <[1]Jumpy142> what are the defences?
40:12 <Steven> and then make sure you prepare some evocation spells
40:35 <Steven> 10+AC+DEX+size
40:43 <Steven> usually
41:16 <Steven> so whatever armor you're wearing, plus 10, plus 2(dex), plus 0 for medium size, 1 for small size
41:20 <Steven> i forget what you are
41:26 <Mekkis> man
41:29 <[1]Jumpy142> mmedium
41:30 <Mekkis> I need to pack a lot of books
41:34 <[1]Jumpy142> half-orc
41:45 <Steven> so your at 12 AC w/o armor
42:24 <Mort-> Suggest a scroll of mage armor
42:32 <Steven> yeah
42:34 <Steven> mage armor
42:36 <Mort-> Or cast the spell yourself
42:43 <Steven> till you can get yourself a wand of it
43:12 <[1]Jumpy142> whats it talking about me getting Spell Focus at 1st lvl instead of scribe scroll?
43:35 <Steven> you cannot craft any items in PFS 
43:41 <Brunius> (Which sucks)
43:45 <Steven> so you get spell focus at level 1 instead
43:49 <[1]Jumpy142> but what is scribe scroll?
43:54 <Brunius> It's a feat
44:02 <[1]Jumpy142> am I meant to get it automatically?
44:03 <Brunius> Allowing you to make magic scrolls yourself
44:11 <Brunius> As a Wizard, you get it automagically
44:17 <Brunius> (See what I did there?)
44:21 <Steven> yeah its automatically
44:26 <[1]Jumpy142> oh, so that means I get Spell Focus automatically
44:29 <Mekkis> damn race boons
44:30 <Brunius> Yep
44:36 <Mekkis> they want me to carry Bestiary 2 too
44:36 <[1]Jumpy142> So I still get to choose another feat
44:42 <Brunius> Yep
44:57 <[1]Jumpy142> damn, I thought all this decision-making was over :S
45:12 <Mort-> Greater spell focus if you want then
45:20 <Spaceshot> oh yea
45:21 <Spaceshot> get greater
45:24 <Spaceshot> +1CL is awesome
45:27 <[1]Jumpy142> Yeah, I was thinking that
45:30 <Spaceshot> especially for evocator
46:01 <Spaceshot> remember, evocation is a bit average till 2nd level spells
46:22 <[1]Jumpy142> ok, now faction?
46:24 <Mort-> Where does it say you get
46:28 <Mort-> You need a handy haversack
46:33 <Mort-> Or a bag of holding
46:33 <Mort-> Spell focus for choosing your school
46:40 <Brunius> in PFS
46:49 <Brunius> Instead getting scribe scroll
46:52 <Brunius> you get spell focus
46:55 <Mort-> Reading d20
47:11 <Steven> make sure you get ray of frost as a 0 level spell
47:23 <Mekkis> bag of holding: haversack's too small
47:29 <Mort-> Why not the acid splash :p
47:37 <Mort-> Acid flasks are cheaper
47:44 <Avatar> I keep finding that I get used to carrying light loads
47:46 <Spaceshot> yea
47:53 <Avatar> a masterwork backpack is usually enough
48:03 <Spaceshot> Mort-: did you get spell focus over scribe scroll for Mort?
48:05 <Mort-> What's the weight a handy haversack can hold
48:13 <Mort-> Clearly you are not a packrat
48:24 <Mort-> I didn't actually
48:24 <Steven> the reason you get ray of frost instead of acid splash
48:25 <Spaceshot> isn't acid splash conjuration?
48:34 <Mort-> Which have one more
48:42 <Steven> is because acid splash is conjuration and ray is evocation
48:46 <Mort-> Feat i never spent
48:49 <Spaceshot> haha
49:04 <Mort-> Is he forbidden from conjuration?
49:09 <Avatar> show me one of your packrat sheets
49:13 <Avatar> which character
49:13 <Mort-> Didn't look at schools
49:21 <Steven> he chooses two schools
49:48 <Avatar> you don't list weights next to anything
49:48 <[1]Jumpy142> So I'm going to be from The Lantern Lodge, is that ok?
49:51 <[1]Jumpy142> does faction have much to do with stufF?
49:59 <Mort-> Yes
50:01 <Steven> you get faction missions
50:13 <Avatar> oh wait there they are
50:24 <Mort-> Some faction missions might make you squeamish
50:28 <Steven> you do the faction missions you get mroe prestige
50:29 <[1]Jumpy142> :D
50:37 <Steven> yeah like sczarni i had to cut a dudes tongue out
50:53 <[1]Jumpy142> Does deity matter?
50:53 <Brunius> Kinda glad my Sczarni character died
50:56 <Spaceshot> just don't be sczarni or chelix and you're set
50:57 <Spaceshot> :P
50:59 <[1]Jumpy142> I want to be atheist
51:01 <Brunius> Not much as a Wizard
51:07 <Brunius> Yeah Atheist is fine
51:09 <Mort-> I do keep track of my weight
51:14 <Mort-> Check mort
51:14 <Brunius> As long as you're not a divine caster
51:16 <Mort-> Lol
51:19 <Brunius> Cleric, Paladin, etc.
51:28 <Mort-> Oh shit what a mess right?
51:37 <[1]Jumpy142> should I pick spells now?
51:42 <Mort-> Don't even know what half of the items are for right?
51:44 <Mort-> My
51:50 <Brunius> You have spells known, and spells prepared
51:50 <Mort-> Yes i purpose
51:52 <Mort-> Suppose
51:56 <Avatar> at a glance you look like you aren't at a medium load
52:04 <Brunius> So you'll need to pick your spells known now
52:06 <Mort-> 19 to hold person dc now
52:07 <Mort-> Nice
52:15 <Brunius> But spells prepared you can change later
52:16 <Mort-> Because i have muleback chords
52:19 <Mort-> Or i would be
52:22 <Spaceshot> Mort-: greater focus?
52:28 <Mort-> Really should get a bag of holding
52:29 <[1]Jumpy142> I'll get Dancing Lights, Light and Ray of Frost
52:32 <[1]Jumpy142> as lvl 0
52:40 <Mort-> And get cloak of resistance
52:48 <Brunius> Hmm, should I try to stay awake for the whole of the first LotR for the third night in a row?
52:59 <Steven> you dont need light
52:59 <Brunius> Got just past the mines of Moria last time...
53:07 <Mort-> I manage to get my characters at light loads through some innovation
53:07 <Steven> you have darkvision
53:10 <Avatar> yeah you are at a medium load
53:11 <[1]Jumpy142> ok then, I'll get flare
53:17 <Mort-> Really?
53:22 <Avatar> and that's only with what's in your backpack
53:27 <[1]Jumpy142> how come there is nothing saying what I need to roll to hit?
53:31 <Mort-> Mule back chords
53:33 <[1]Jumpy142> or is it always hit?
53:36 <Mort-> Put my strength at 18
53:39 <Mort-> What are your forbidden schools
53:40 <Avatar> oh I didn't see that
53:44 <Mort-> For caring stuff
53:46 <Brunius> For, say, Ray of Frost
53:53 <Mort-> So i have 116 pounds to play wits
53:55 <Brunius> It should say it's a "Ranged touch"
53:57 <Mort-> With
54:09 <Brunius> ranged means you add your dexterity and base attack bonus (bab)
54:17 <Brunius> and touch means it targets their touch AC
54:19 <Mort-> The last time i got exhausted
54:27 <Mort-> I dumped jerus all my stuff
54:33 <Avatar> you're fine with what you've got then
54:37 <Mort-> Yeah
54:40 <Avatar> why do you need a bag of holding or a haversack
54:44 <Mort-> More packrat fun!
54:56 <Mort-> I want to free up my shoulder plot
54:56 <Avatar> do you want to carry a ladder
54:57 <Mort-> Slot
54:57 <Spaceshot> touch AC is without dex (IIRC)
55:02 <Mort-> Most of the time touch ac is much lower then actual ac
55:04 <Mort-> For cloak of resistance
55:14 <Brunius> Most of the time
55:20 <Mort-> Touch ac includes dex space
55:21 <Mort-> Unless some fine day. I get dominated by a vampire
55:25 <Mort-> Or whatever
55:26 <Brunius> In the 3.5 campaign I'm in, one guy has a dex-draining rod
55:27 <Mort-> Its without armor
55:39 <Brunius> He kept insisting he wanted to go against touch AC, even when that's higher
55:43 <Mekkis> Avatar, not my sheet
55:47 <[1]Jumpy142> Necromancy and Illusion
55:51 <Mort-> Or a nasty necromancer attacks the back of the party
55:58 <Mekkis> my backpack I'm taking to your state
55:58 <Steven> touc is without ac, shiled or natural
56:01 <[1]Jumpy142> forbidden schools
56:09 <Brunius> Ah, flat footed AC, I mean
56:20 <Avatar> what?
56:23 <Mort-> And paralyzes me with a ghoul touch
56:45 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> I need to pack a lot of books
56:46 <Spaceshot> forbbiden doesn't mean you can't ever cast it, it's just harder
56:52 <Mort-> I'm glad i never had to worry about opposing schools
56:54 <Mort-> :d
57:20 <Avatar> I was talking to mort about what my characters do 
57:25 <Mekkis> ah
57:26 <Avatar> re haversacks and bags
57:43 <[1]Jumpy142> wait... here it says I start with all lvl 0 spells (except for forbidden) and three lvl 1 spells
58:08 <[1]Jumpy142> (+int mod lvl 1 spells)
58:20 <[1]Jumpy142> is that right? or are rules different?
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58:34 <Spaceshot> yes that is true
58:37 <Mekkis> ah
58:48 <[1]Jumpy142> oh ok
58:49 <Spaceshot> but look at your class' spells per day
58:58 <Mort-> Well what do you do with them
58:58 <Spaceshot> that's how many you can cast, and must also prepare per day
58:59 <Mekkis> Mort-, I like the "get a mount" option
59:07 <Mort-> I have a mount
59:09 <[1]Jumpy142> oh so I can only prepare 3 lvl 0's per day and one lvl 1
59:10 <Mort-> Actually
59:17 <Mort-> But i don't use him much
59:23 <Spaceshot> yes
59:26 <Mekkis> use him as a pack animal
59:29 <Mort-> I realised i could lug almost everything
59:31 <Spaceshot> you also get bonus spells per day equal to your intellect
59:39 <Mort-> So how do i retrieve stuff from him
59:40 <Mekkis> he's a "non-combat" animal :)
59:41 <Mort-> In combat
59:45 <Mekkis> you don't
59:47 <Mort-> Yes he would be
59:49 <Mort-> Well
59:51 <Spaceshot> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/ability-scores
59:59 <Mort-> I have to have all my stuff with me!
00:05 <[1]Jumpy142> ah, so I can prepare seven lvl0 and five lvl1 spells?
00:06 <Mort-> Or ill die!
00:06 <Mekkis> no, you don't
00:15 <Steven> no
00:21 <Brunius> You don't say, MekkisScreen
00:23 <Steven> thats how many spells you know
00:27 <Mort-> (Clearly a packrat)
00:29 <Brunius> Sit on your phone?
00:37 <Mort-> What would i do without my smelling salts
00:51 <Mekkis> you don't need your tent or your bedroll in combat
00:51 <[1]Jumpy142> ah
00:55 <Mort-> My smoked covered goggles
00:59 <Mort-> My tent!
01:04 <Mort-> My poles!
01:08 <Mort-> my water skin
01:19 <[1]Jumpy142> so I get 1 extra lvl1 spell per day, making 1?
01:20 <[1]Jumpy142> 2?
01:26 <Steven> yup
01:29 <Mekkis> you don't need that in combat!
01:29 <Steven> 2 level 1 spells
01:35 <Mort-> Point is if i go around i have to find a way to get my mount across
01:36 <[1]Jumpy142> and whatever lvl0 ones I want whenever?
01:42 <Mort-> Yes you do!
01:42 <[1]Jumpy142> or just the three?
01:56 <Mort-> Say up a cold mountain range
01:56 <Brunius> Just the three, I think
02:01 <[1]Jumpy142> because int doesn't affect number of lvl0 spells
02:04 <Brunius> I don't play wizards, myself
02:14 <Mort-> So you left your mount in a cold mountain range?
02:18 <Mekkis> http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2006/8/13/how-to-talk-to-your-kid-about-smoking.html
02:35 <Mort-> He somehow magically reappears at pathfinder lodge?
02:41 <Mort-> It doesn't make sense!
02:58 <Mekkis> you give him a command "fetch"
03:07 <Mekkis> and get him to fetch something from the lodge :)
04:05 <Mort-> I don't want him to freeze to death or something
04:24 <Mort-> And how would he get over the mountain range to you?
04:46 <Mort-> About my bed roll and tent
05:07 <Mort-> You go to the cold mountain range with difficult terrain
05:27 <Mort-> You leave your horse behind with that stuff since you couldn't carry it
05:32 <Mort-> How you sleeping tonight
05:34 <Mort-> :d
06:02 <Mekkis> you go on a heavy load
06:09 <Mekkis> and drop it on your first action
06:42 <Mort-> Actually id just endure elements
06:54 <Mort-> But yes i must have a bag of holding
07:07 <Mort-> Alternatively give everything to jerus
07:15 <Mort-> I'm a freaking btm
07:17 <Mort-> Bum
19:30 <Mort-> Night all
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53:49 <Steven> sup sup
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51:13 <Ballig> that's what she said
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03:47 <OsterGuard> Who's online?
03:53 <Hydrazine> Nobody.
04:22 <OsterGuard> I have to sit through an anzac thing :'(
04:58 <Jumpy142> Me
05:04 <Mort-> Jumpy
05:12 <Mort-> You haven't rolled a character yet!
05:29 <Jumpy142> O rly?
05:36 <OsterGuard> I haven't seen you before
05:42 <Mort-> Exactly!
05:43 <Jumpy142> New :)
06:01 <Mort-> So roll a pfs character
06:23 <Jumpy142> Pfs?
06:34 <Mort-> Yes
06:40 <Jumpy142> Whats that?
06:43 <Mort-> Pathfinder society
07:16 <Jumpy142> Keep elaborating...
07:28 <Mort-> www.pfrpg.com.au/newbie_guide.htm
07:33 <Jumpy142> As i said, im really new. Assume i dont know anything
07:45 <Mort-> We play dungeon and dragons on irc here
07:45 <OsterGuard> Nice to meet you :)
07:57 <Mort-> You should have seen my first run 
08:10 <Mort-> Did all kinds of shit
08:20 <Mort-> At least i aimed the colour spray correctly
09:11 <Mort-> Read that guide jumpy
09:35 <Hydrazine> Hi new guy!
09:41 <OsterGuard> So where are you from?
09:55 <Jumpy142> Reading now, ill get back to you guys in a sec
10:01 <Jumpy142> Sydney, Australia
10:02 <Hydrazine> Are you familiar with tabletop games at all? D&D or some such?
10:09 <Avatar> got me a goblin shirt
10:40 <Mort-> Fk
10:52 <Mort-> Mort has an out of date sheet
10:57 <Mort-> So does khaz
10:58 <Avatar> fk
11:07 <Mort-> No worries i can fix it
11:08 <Jumpy142> Yeah, i play 4e dnd with a small group of friends
11:22 <Jumpy142> Been playing for about 4 months now
11:24 <OsterGuard> Cool
11:54 <Hydrazine> 4E?
11:58 <Avatar> forget 4e
12:05 <OsterGuard> I have yet to play a game
12:13 <Avatar> yeah why is that OsterGuard
12:17 <Mort-> Lol
12:19 <Hydrazine> I think for the sake of politeness I'll keep my 4E opinions to myself.
12:20 <Mort-> I can run now
12:26 <Mort-> Woot!
12:29 <Avatar> I won't, 4e suxxx
12:31 <Hydrazine> Is Pallassa up to date, Oster?
12:31 <Mort-> No ca!
12:40 <OsterGuard> I think so
12:47 <Avatar> Jumpy142: have you played 3e or 3.5
12:49 <OsterGuard> You can have a look
12:56 <Mort-> Lets go avatar!
13:01 <Mort-> No ca ftw!
13:01 <Avatar> let's go what
13:07 <Jumpy142> Avatar: nope, 4e is where it started for me
13:07 <Mort-> Run now!
13:10 <Mort-> Anything!
13:15 <Avatar> get a grip
13:21 <Mort-> Aka fs
13:25 <OsterGuard> That reminds me. Avatar: can you reset my pass?
13:30 <Avatar> sec
13:40 <Avatar> Jumpy142: take a look at the pathfinder rulebook
13:46 <Avatar> it's effectively 3.75e 
13:53 <Avatar> for the huge amount of people who hated 4e
14:24 <Jumpy142> Avatar: how long is it? Im on iPhone, so cant really read long documents...
14:26 <Avatar> there's a Getting Started link on www.pfrpg.com.au
14:33 <Avatar> it's a rulebook
14:35 <Avatar> wait till you get home :P
15:21 <OsterGuard> Where are you?
15:25 <OsterGuard> Work?
15:34 <Jumpy142> Yeah, i will... At the Sydney Royal Easter Show now anyway... Talk to you guys later.
15:51 <Jumpy142> I'm 16
16:04 <Jumpy142> So no work for me uet
16:11 <Avatar> consider yourself lucky
16:49 <Hydrazine> Ah.
17:15 <Hydrazine> Yeah, Pallassa on the site is still missing a domain and a favored class bonus.
17:26 <OsterGuard> Ah
17:48 <OsterGuard> I updated domain, but I need to upload it
18:02 <OsterGuard> Favoured class bonus?
18:08 <Hydrazine> Mhm.
18:21 <Hydrazine> Generally its either 1 HP or 1 skill point.
18:26 <Hydrazine> your pick.
19:52 <Jumpy142> 4e seems easier to get into than 3 or 3.5 is that right? More simple?
21:16 <Mort-> Screw work
21:21 <Mort-> Just play without ca
21:31 <Mort-> fs combat is fair simple anyway
22:07 <Hydrazine> Uh, yeah, I think it is more simple, Jumpy, but I don't think its in a good way.
22:44 <OsterGuard> That's a matter of opinion
22:47 <Jumpy142> Ah ok
22:56 <Hydrazine> Yes, its opinion.
23:16 <Hydrazine> But he asked
23:34 <Mort-> Charge!
23:37 <Jumpy142> I'll have to try it sometime then. I mean, its not like we can just stop our 4e campaign
23:41 <OsterGuard> True
24:03 * OsterGuard jumps out of mort's way
24:19 <Mort-> Come on
24:26 <Mort-> I'm harmless
24:28 <Mort-> Seriously
24:41 <Mort-> My wizard has no evocation spells
24:44 <Mort-> Well minimal
25:03 <OsterGuard> Suure. Whatever you say.
25:24 <OsterGuard> I know just how dangerous you are.
25:27 <Mort-> Ask hydrazine
25:34 <Mort-> He can vouch for me!
25:46 <Mort-> Hydra. Mort is harmless right?
25:57 <OsterGuard> Hydrazine: Is what she says true?
27:50 <OsterGuard> Oh, well 
27:56 <OsterGuard> No response.
28:00 <Mort-> Give him a moment
28:12 <Mort-> He may be eating dinner
28:27 <OsterGuard> Hydrazine: Hurry up
28:48 <Mort-> Relax dude
29:03 <Mort-> What happens if he went to the potty?
29:22 <OsterGuard> D:
30:04 <Mort-> I don't mind playing now
30:09 <Mort-> He can run me in combat
31:07 <OsterGuard> Yay homophobia!
31:13 <Mort-> Anyway oster
31:22 <OsterGuard> Yes?
31:26 <Mort-> If we play you'll have to sit around for 5 h straight
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31:50 <OsterGuard> I know
32:13 <OsterGuard> I can do that
32:16 <Hydrazine> Oh. No, Mort's not at all harmless.
32:24 <OsterGuard> Ha!
32:24 <Avatar> not at all
32:26 <Hydrazine> She'll make you laugh yourself to DEATH.
32:29 <Mort-> Hydrazine
32:33 <Mort-> Traitor!
32:39 * Mort- wails loudly
32:40 <Avatar> or hold you in place while you get DESTROYED
32:55 * OsterGuard Sticks out tongue
33:04 * Mort- is really really really sad
33:17 <Avatar> I'd be really sad too if I was unstoppable
33:20 <Mort-> Considering all the nice things i did for you :(
33:28 <Mort-> I'm not unstoppable
33:40 <Avatar> well that's the wrong word
33:40 <Mort-> I know how many loopholes i have
33:41 <Avatar> but you get the idea
34:06 <Mort-> But yes avatar i can play now :p
34:12 <Mort-> Just no ca
34:32 <OsterGuard> I can't D:
34:37 <Mort-> Aw
34:41 <Mort-> Shoot :p
36:35 <Avatar> if you don't have CA, you can't play
36:48 <Avatar> that's like going to a game in person and when they bring out the map, you close your eyes
37:13 <OsterGuard> I'm starting to get really pissed when people dick around and joke about/ pretend to be gay
37:26 <OsterGuard> Off topic
37:28 <OsterGuard> I know
37:35 <OsterGuard> Just need to rant
38:03 <Mort-> Fyi
38:16 <Mort-> Dark white had a blind player at his table
38:20 <Mort-> What's the difference
38:29 <Mort-> He literally can't see lol
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39:49 <OsterGuard> Boll
39:52 <OsterGuard> Lol
40:24 <Avatar> the difference is you're not blind
40:25 <Mort-> I could use excel to mimic the grid squares
40:32 <Mort-> Draw the grid in my mind.
41:03 <Mort-> I even have pen and paper here lol
44:20 <Hydrazine> Why can't you CA, Mort?
44:29 <Hydrazine> And yeah, you know why Mort's dangerous?
44:36 <Hydrazine> Mort lets Jerus coup de grace things.
45:20 <Mort-> I'm at work
45:41 <Mort-> No admin rights to install ca
46:17 <Mort-> Id run it on my phone but it clearly doesn't work
48:29 <OsterGuard> There's a CA for phones?
48:41 <Mort-> It won't work
48:52 <Mort-> At least not if you are not using a nokia
48:55 <OsterGuard> Aw
49:02 <Avatar> mekkis made a dodgy nokia one
49:06 <Avatar> at some point ballig will get to an android one
49:13 <Avatar> forget apple
49:59 <Mort-> Really its just the ca problem?
50:07 <Mort-> Why not i just picture my own map
50:15 <Avatar> you do realise CA doesn't need to "install"
50:20 <Avatar> you just download the zip and extract it
50:27 <Mort-> Oh?
50:31 <Avatar> yeah
50:43 <OsterGuard>  Haha
50:54 <Mort-> This could get interesting
51:21 <Mort-> Really interesting
52:30 <Mort-> My oh my
52:38 <Mort-> Maybe i can ca after all!
52:46 <Avatar> who's up for fs2 today besides mort
52:53 <Avatar> with some reasonable notice
53:12 <Avatar> if we get 3 or 4 people we can do it
53:19 <Mort-> Ok ca up
53:22 <Mort-> ^^
54:36 <Mort-> Ill bring grull for fs 2
54:52 <Hydrazine> When is this?
56:27 <Avatar> today sometime
56:48 <Avatar> to start in the next 4-5 hours maybe
56:59 <Avatar> within 4-5 hours
57:09 <Avatar> if we have 3 or 4 now we can go now
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59:35 <Brunius> I may actually have to update to 7 now
59:45 <Avatar> have you not used 7 before
59:57 <Brunius> I've used it, at school
00:06 <Avatar> avoided it at home?
00:12 <Brunius> No reason to upgrade
00:16 <Hydrazine> Has Tashes run it?
00:59 <OsterGuard> Ugh, trying
01:19 <OsterGuard> To get the unix file running via terminal is hell
02:01 <Avatar> I think she played it when you two were running rogues?
02:09 <Avatar> with brunius
02:41 <Brunius> FS2?
03:13 <Hydrazine> oh, yes.
03:42 <Brunius> Who was running that grappling monk
05:14 <Hydrazine> Lord.
07:57 <Hydrazine> Where the hell did he go anyway?
11:51 <Avatar> I can't remember what he said
11:58 <Avatar> he had to do some stuff and said he would be back at some point
13:20 <Avatar> sweet I got an invitation to gencon with my shirt
13:23 <Avatar> in august
13:30 <Avatar> in indianapolis
13:35 <Brunius> Ha
14:03 <Brunius> Your shirt arrived today did it?
14:40 <Avatar> picked it up today
14:43 <Avatar> it arrived yesterday
14:47 <Avatar> at like 8am when I was sleeping
14:57 <Brunius> Ha
15:32 <Brunius> Last time I ordered a large package from America, it arrived at 10am, on a sunday, a week before it was due
16:43 <Mort-> Ah k grull is done
16:45 <Brunius> Hydrazine: Why do Americans that have served seem to think they're entitled to discounts?
17:43 <Hydrazine> I don't expect discounts, but its nice when they happen.
18:03 <Hydrazine> I once paid to get into a museum and then found out I could've just flashed my ID and got in free.
18:53 <Brunius> D'you know why they do these discounts?
20:05 <Brunius> I don't understand this mentality
21:12 <Mort-> But yes. Ready anytime now
21:22 <Mort-> Will be off for lunch in 40 min
22:10 <Hydrazine> Well. Its to show respect for doing a really dangerous job.
23:08 <Hydrazine> For serving the country. Its an all-volunteer force now.
23:21 <Hydrazine> Has been since I think Korea.
24:23 <Mort-> The navy?
24:26 <Mort-> Volunteer?
24:33 <Mort-> Aren't you paid?
24:53 <Hydrazine> Yes. But military service isn't compulsory.
25:04 <Hydrazine> Some countries have drafts and conscription.
25:25 <Mort-> Thank you. That's us :d
25:34 <Mort-> Well for national service
25:46 <Mort-> Frankly. I'm not a soldier typo
25:48 <Mort-> Type
26:05 <Hydrazine> How does it work for you guys?
26:13 * Mort- is a scaredmur who won't go any where near fighting
26:51 <Mort-> Every male above 18 who is a Singapore citizen has to go for 2.5 years of national service
27:04 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
27:08 <Mort-> Aka the army
27:13 <Hydrazine> Exactly. Ours is different. You have to sign up.
27:21 <Mort-> Which everyone moans about
28:02 <Mort-> I've gone camping before
28:05 <Brunius> Wasn't Singapore meant to be the untakeable fortress in WW2
28:17 <Mort-> Rest is generally fitful when you try to sleep on a road
28:27 <Mort-> And i hate mosquitoes
28:53 <Mort-> One of the rules of war: battle plans never survive first contact with the enemy
29:03 <Brunius> Yay for murphy's military laws
29:08 <Mort-> As a matter of fact i have sun tzus art of war
29:11 <Mort-> At home.
29:16 <Brunius> If it needs to be together to work, it can't be shipped together
29:37 <Mort-> And the best plan is to just avoid the fight lol
29:51 <Hydrazine> I have a beautiful copy of the Art of War.
29:56 <Mort-> That's a dig at all my fellow pathfinders out tidesd
29:57 <Hydrazine> I got it from a library for a dollar.
30:01 <Mort-> There
30:35 <Hydrazine> One cart of the enemy's supplies is worth three of your own.
30:50 <Mort-> Wasn't it 10?
30:56 <Hydrazine> I think 3. Maybe.
30:59 <Mort-> Or 20? 
31:08 <Mort-> I think 10 was more like  it
31:18 <Mort-> But truly the master is my brother. Not me
31:25 <Mort-> He is good at all this stuff
31:38 <Mort-> Puts new light to dominate person spell :d
34:14 <Mort-> Oh mine is a rather battered and dog eared copy
34:27 <Mort-> Too much pawing around 
36:58 <Hydrazine> Mine has gold foil on the edges.
37:40 <Brunius> Of course
39:35 <Mort-> Lol
39:42 <Mort-> When murs try to read
39:48 <Mort-> They paw around!
43:50 <MekkisScreen> "Programming to specification is like walking on water"
44:00 <MekkisScreen> "It's easier if it's frozen
44:04 <MekkisScreen> "
44:41 <Avatar> Mekkis: got my shirt
44:51 <Avatar> medium feels like a large
44:57 <MekkisScreen> I know
45:04 <MekkisScreen> what faction?
45:07 <Avatar> fits pretty perfectly
45:09 <Avatar> goblin d20
45:31 * Mort- cheers because she likes goblins
45:46 <Brunius> Avatar: They use different sizing over in the US
46:16 <Avatar> it would suck if it didn't fit
46:28 <Avatar> $20 for a decent shirt and a reroll every scenario, can't complain at all
49:11 <Mort-> Sigh
49:19 <Mort-> Playing in real life would be funny
49:27 <Mort-> Firstly fumble with the dice
49:35 <Mort-> Next i have no books
49:59 <Mort-> After. How to rp my characters :d
52:44 <MekkisScreen> I have two sword-bomber shirts
52:49 <MekkisScreen> one has the wrong font :S
53:02 <Brunius> Oh no!
53:23 <Brunius> When are you flying down to melby?
53:50 <MekkisScreen> in about five hours
53:52 <Mort-> Oh dear
54:07 <Mort-> Bon voyage!
54:13 <Mort-> Have fun at conquest!
54:13 <Brunius> And when are you flying back up?
54:59 <Avatar> crap
55:01 <Avatar> can someone call my phone
55:23 <Brunius> in a sec
56:07 <Brunius> calling
56:35 <Avatar> can't hear it
57:43 <Brunius> don't you have a landline?
59:02 <Avatar> it was in the car
59:04 <Avatar> you can stop ringing it
59:04 <Brunius> Third time it hasn't connected
59:09 <Brunius> Ok
59:15 <Avatar> sorry, once was enough
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01:56 <Brunius> Sup
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10:01 <Avatar> I was looking at some other classes to potentially multiclass Buck into
10:28 <Avatar> but then I looked back at what else the gunslinger gets, and at 11th level there are some pretty sexy deeds coming up
11:39 <Avatar> thought about pre-levelling instead of going to the con, levelling, and then rushing a level up in the few hours I have between each day
11:44 <Avatar> like at arcanacon
13:41 <Brunius> Yeah
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14:15 <Brunius> I was gonna look at giving my concept gunslinger a level in fighter to get sword and pistol a level early, but I don't think even that is worth it
14:40 <Avatar> yeah I didn't see much advantage with fighter
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19:29 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 1pm (Ballig, new game) | PFS: Sun 1pm (Ballig, new game) | ED: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
19:29 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Sun Apr  1 19:01:50 2012
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21:34 <Brunius> You know you can't take levels in Rogue AND Ninja
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30:31 <OsterGuard>  Are we still talking pfs?
32:43 <Brunius> Pathfinder, if not society in particular
33:13 <Avatar> yes I know
33:21 <Avatar> I'm talking rogue or ninja
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34:35 <Brunius> Maybe you should take more note of alternative classes
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34:45 <Brunius> Didn't you try to get me to take ninja on Kaleb
36:25 <Avatar> dunno
36:38 <Avatar> what do you mean take more note of alternative classes
36:40 <Hydrazine> I'm gonna make a ninja/samurai/rogue/cav!
39:25 <Hydrazine> So yeah. I think witch next.
39:28 <Hydrazine> Witch or oracle.
39:47 <Avatar> go witch
40:16 <Hydrazine> leaning towards it.
40:20 <Avatar> I sort of wish there was more hexes to choose from
40:23 <Hydrazine> Hedge witch.
40:29 <Hydrazine> slumber and misfortune.
40:46 <Hydrazine> i've seen misfortune to really good use.
40:52 <Avatar> keep in mind cackle works well with misfortune
41:04 <Hydrazine> indeed.
41:25 <Hydrazine> Snickers does that, yeah?
41:36 <Avatar> she's actually never had the opportunity
41:43 <Hydrazine> no?
41:44 <Hydrazine> huh.
41:45 <Avatar> the party always kills everything too quickly
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41:54 <Hydrazine> Too busy slumbering things for big cdg swings?
42:10 <Avatar> don't know, I don't think so
42:23 <Hydrazine> Did with Jerus once.
42:32 <Avatar> yeah, that was once :P
42:42 <Hydrazine> Hey, it worked.
43:03 <Hydrazine> Jerus has been staying upright for whole sessions lately.
44:11 <Avatar> yeah the party always kills everything too quickly
49:48 <Brunius> We should uptier more
50:33 <Avatar> yeah probably
52:36 <Brunius> Could you print a chronicle sheet for me before Sunday?
54:25 <Avatar> yeah
54:35 <Avatar> I'm not sure why we bother when they never look at them
55:02 <Brunius>   It's important that it's there, though
55:20 <Avatar> it's important if they want to look at them
55:29 <Brunius> Hmm, if I choose an ethnicity from the Dragon Empires Gazetteer, do I also get common?
55:50 <Avatar> when you choose an ethnicity you get common + the ethnic language don't you
56:29 <Brunius> These are Tian ethnicity
56:31 <Brunius> Tian-La
56:33 <Brunius> Tian-Dan
56:34 <Brunius> etc.
56:45 <Brunius> So I get Tien and a language
57:08 <Brunius> Like Tian-Las get Hon-La, Tien
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57:38 <Avatar> yeah so you'd get common + tian-la or whatever
58:04 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure common always refers to taldane there
58:20 <Brunius> In Tian-Xia, Tien is common
02:00 <Brunius> Gonna take another look at Windows, see you guys later
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05:18 <Avatar> yes but for the purpose of common + an ethnic language, common is always taldane, even if you're from tian xia
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22:09 <Mort-> Its raining and I'm sleepy
23:04 * Mort- takes a nap
23:35 <Mort-> Tian xia means under heaven
23:37 <Mort-> In Chinese
23:45 <Mort-> If anyone is interested
24:47 <Mort-> So translate me to golraion terms I'm probably a human bard in tien speaking regions
25:00 <Mort-> 110 lbs. 5'1
33:57 * Mort- tumbles osterguard over for a cookie
35:56 <Hydrazine> only 5'1 mort?
36:48 <Mort-> That's my real life height
37:07 <Mort-> They say good things come in small packages :d
37:25 <Mort-> Think napoleon and hitler ;)
44:29 <Hydrazine> Ghandi?
45:05 <Mort-> Not my type
45:20 <Hydrazine> Small lemur is small.
45:34 <Mort-> Not feeling diplomatic
45:47 <Mort-> You have no idea how trying it is to get cookies
46:05 <Mort-> They are always on the shelf higher then you can reach :(
46:30 <Hydrazine> Thats what guys are for
46:50 <Mort-> Nah. I jump further then most :p
47:12 <Mort-> Well my last standing broad jump record was 1.97 m
47:24 <Mort-> A little higher then most as well
47:29 <Hydrazine> you longjump?
47:30 <Hydrazine> huh.
47:35 <Hydrazine> or high jup?
47:43 <Mort-> I jump decentw
47:54 <Mort-> I did high jump in elementary school
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54:41 <Brunius> Stupid Windows
59:19 <Brunius> Back in a while, changing cases
59:22 <Mort-> Bleh
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59:30 <Mort-> How do people even drink coffee
05:59 <Avatar> you need the good stuff
06:27 <Mort-> This is supposed to be the good stuff
07:03 <Mort-> Required half a cup of milk and 3 sugar cubes to even be platable
09:27 <Avatar> sounds like you need better advice
09:34 <Avatar> don't listen to whoever told you that was the good stuff
09:36 <Avatar> reputation -1
10:24 <Mort-> Or maybe i just don't appreciate it
10:54 <Avatar> the appreciating part of it whether you like it or not
11:17 <Avatar> you don't want to appreciate bad coffee
12:12 <Mort-> Lol
43:43 <Mekkis> Mort-, who told you it was "the good stuff"
43:43 <Mekkis> ?
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55:35 <Mort-> Well technically the company secretary
55:43 <Mort-> Buys branded stuff
55:50 <Mort-> And also generally
55:55 <Mort-> I drink tea not coffee
56:49 <Mort-> Btw mekkis
57:08 <Mort-> How much do you know about forgotten realms lore
57:34 <Mekkis> a fair amount
57:46 <Mekkis> yuck.
57:49 <Mekkis> branded coffee
58:13 <Mort-> Ok. Story time.
58:26 * Mort- sits around and listens to stories
58:35 <Mort-> What is the spell plague
58:48 <Mort-> And what happened to neverwinter after
59:00 <Mort-> When did motb take place
59:08 <Mekkis> after NWN2
59:12 <Mekkis> before FR4e
59:55 <Mort-> The spell plague took place at the same time of motb?
00:01 <Mort-> What is fr4e
00:02 <Mekkis> Question: are Cold Iron, or Lightning Elementals on the Summon Monster II list?
03:49 <Mort-> See no reason why they shouldn't be
04:33 <Mort-> I think motb took place after spell plague?
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15:15 <Tristen> avatar: can you post a short goog maps url to the high school for the con?
15:26 <Tristen> is it melbourne high?
15:40 <Avatar> yeah
15:40 <Avatar> you know when you're on the sandringham line
15:48 <Avatar> and you go past south yarra and see that big castle like building
15:53 <Avatar> that's melbourne high
16:37 <Avatar> how do you get a google maps link
17:51 <Avatar> http://g.co/maps/8jh7u
19:05 <Mekkis> .
19:41 <Avatar> .
21:22 <Tristen> oh soz
22:13 <Tristen> ah yeah i know it
22:13 <Tristen> i ride my pushie along the river there all the time
22:15 <Avatar> is there anywhere to hire bikes narby
22:26 <Avatar> nearby*
22:31 <Tristen> i think the closest to there may be fed square
22:46 <Avatar> in st kilda
22:53 <Tristen> nooooo not in st kilda
22:58 <Tristen> the system has been widely criticised for that
22:59 <Avatar> I thought there used to be a place near the beach
23:03 <Tristen> as in 
23:16 <Tristen> oh i could be wrong one sec
23:45 <Tristen> http://www.melbournebikeshare.com.au/
23:45 <Tristen> that's the official site
23:49 <Tristen> http://www.melbournebikeshare.com.au/stationmap
23:52 <Tristen> there's the station map
24:19 <Tristen> oh right one at kerford road
24:25 <Tristen> (the arse of nowhere though)
24:35 <Tristen> so you'd have to get there first
24:38 <Tristen> dickheaded
24:51 <Mort-> Oh this is so exciting
26:18 <Tristen> dang i forgot the supermarket won't be open in the morning
26:32 <Mekkis> could you buy me some bananas?
27:07 <Jumpy142> Sure thing
27:25 <Mekkis> Jumpy142, you're an optus user?
27:35 <Jumpy142> Yep
27:42 <Mekkis> poor bastard
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27:49 <Jumpy142> Mekkis, how could you tell?
27:51 <Brunius> Remind me NEVER to apply for a tech support job
28:11 <Tristen> mekkis yeah i can get you some bananas!
28:24 <Tristen> (essential sustenance)
28:29 <Mekkis> Jumpy142, the 49.176.0.0/14 is assigned to Optus
29:00 <Jumpy142> Mekkis: oh cool, my iPhone doesn't show ip addresses
29:07 <Mekkis> yeah
29:13 <Mekkis> it's disgusting, right
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30:15 <Avatar> feat suggestions for gunslinger? considering not over-optimising?
30:16 <Brunius> Point Blank Shot
30:16 <Brunius> Snap Shot
30:16 <Avatar> I have point blank shot
30:16 <Brunius> Improved Snap Shot
30:16 <Brunius> Sword and Pistol
30:16 <Avatar> snap shot requires weapon focus
30:16 <Tristen> brunius man how are you?
30:16 <Brunius> Get Weapon Focus then
30:17 <Avatar> I don't use a sword
30:31 <Mekkis> Avatar, step up
30:51 <Brunius> Good, Tristen
30:52 <Brunius> You?
30:52 <Avatar> weapon focus is a wasted feat
30:52 <Brunius> It is great
30:52 <Tristen> good - i can't sit still :)
30:52 <Avatar> not when you're shooting vs touch
30:53 <Brunius> Oh?
30:54 <Tristen> you'll be there brun?
31:00 <Brunius> Only the Sunday
31:05 <Avatar> why would I take step up when I'm using a gun
31:05 <Brunius> I don't have enough cash
31:08 <Avatar> I try to 5ft step away from the bad guys
31:12 <Avatar> is there a step away feat
31:35 <Brunius> Yeah
31:37 <Brunius> You get it for free
31:38 <Avatar> I am seriously considering dodge
31:39 <Tristen> brunius: gah - make a pact with lucifer or something
31:43 <Brunius> It's called "Five foot step"
31:57 <Avatar> I need a feat by tonight
32:02 <Brunius> Get Weapon Focus man
32:04 <Mekkis> toughness
32:10 <Mekkis> Brunius, Avatar doesn't like +1s
32:13 <Avatar> I don't need weapon focus
32:21 <Avatar> Mekkis: I'm considering dodge
32:24 <Avatar> how much does that give you
32:30 <Mekkis> +1
32:37 <Brunius> What are your saves like?
32:38 <Avatar> cmon guys
32:40 <Tristen> yeah oskar's just taken weapon focus to get that snap shot thingie
32:42 <Mekkis> get a feat that actually sounds good
32:46 <Avatar> 7/8/5
32:47 <Tristen> avatar you know it makes sense
32:48 <Mekkis> rather than one that looks good
32:53 <Brunius> Get something for that 5
32:59 <Brunius> That's fort?
33:01 <Avatar> snap shot is the common choice
33:02 <Mekkis> Grolschmir took "Death From Above!"
33:11 <Avatar> I was going to go for that, but I really really really don't want weapon focus
33:25 <Tristen> and combat reflexes
33:30 <Tristen> and keep your eye on improved snap shot
33:38 <Tristen> fucking kill them. kill them all.
33:55 <Avatar> do you need snap shot for combat reflexes
34:01 <Avatar> argggggg
34:09 <Avatar> that's an excellent reason to take weapon focus
34:10 <Mekkis> Avatar, Vital Strike
34:21 <Tristen> no it's not a requirement, it's just you can let rip with aoos when threatened
34:38 <Avatar> yeah
34:48 <Brunius> I think I'll take combat reflexes after I've taked Sword and Pistol
34:49 <Brunius> So 9th level
35:31 <Mekkis> Racial Heritage 
35:42 <Brunius> What's that?
36:06 <Mekkis> Clustered Shots
37:54 <Mort-> Is 15 dc fort save hard to beat?
38:24 * Mort- doesn't really think so
38:29 <Mekkis> time to board
38:32 <Mekkis> see you in Melbourne
11:52 <Hydrazine> So.
11:56 <Hydrazine> We kicked ass.
13:28 <Mort-> Kicked what ass?
13:37 <Mort-> I'm asking for history lessons :d
19:15 <Hydrazine> Me and Tash been gaming pretty hard.
19:26 <Mort-> Which one
19:28 <Mort-> :p
19:35 <Mort-> I can't play at work of course
20:49 <Hydrazine> Rift today.
21:53 <Mort-> Lol
21:57 <Mort-> Can't play :(
22:05 <Mort-> Werk werk
45:51 <Avatar> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613260297/shadowrun-returns
45:59 <Avatar> went from $295K to $335K in 4 hours
55:41 <tristen> hello!
55:45 <Hydrazine> yo
55:50 <Avatar> what's going on tristen
55:51 <tristen> heyhey!
56:11 <tristen> just polishing my con hat
56:23 <Avatar> yeah I am riding to conquest tomorrow on my bike
56:31 <tristen> NO?
56:35 <Avatar> well not quite, but I bought a helmet today
56:38 <tristen> shit man what bike?
56:50 <Avatar> I dunno, a melbourne RACV bike
57:00 <Avatar> maybe, one day
57:08 <Avatar> man I can't afford a bike 
57:11 <Avatar> I can barely afford a helmet
57:20 <tristen> ebay man
57:25 <Avatar> ebay you reckon
57:31 <tristen> ja
57:37 <Avatar> may need you to point me to something that's good value later
57:39 <tristen> run anything past me
57:40 <tristen> yeah
57:48 <Avatar> I don't know what i'm looking at
57:55 <Avatar> I will end up getting a tricycle
58:03 <tristen> a tricycle with trainers!
58:15 <Avatar> hey is thelen coming?
58:21 <tristen> he is!
58:25 <Avatar> sweet
58:30 <tristen> afternoon sessions 
58:39 <Mort-> I missed you trist!
58:41 <tristen> he's not "getting wrecked"
58:44 <Mort-> Where have you been!
58:45 <tristen> heya mort
58:51 <Avatar> not as hardcore
58:55 <Avatar> that's okay, still part of the team
59:04 <tristen> oh i've been online just coding madly this week
59:05 <Mort-> I really missed you
59:12 <Avatar> there were tears
59:16 <tristen> what's a happening?
59:18 <Mort-> Your nicer then some people here!
59:27 <Avatar> couldn't hurt a fly
59:33 <Mort-> You always have cookies for me!
59:38 <tristen> who was hassling you mort?
59:44 <Mort-> Well
00:22 <Mort-> Wuh!
00:32 <tristen> one sec
00:58 <Jumpy142> Evening all
01:02 <Hydrazine> yo.
01:04 <Avatar> jumpy
01:11 <tristen> dang it
01:20 <tristen> i thought i registered my nicks
02:08 <Mort-> Identify?
02:16 <tristen> does that work?
02:18 <tristen> IDENTIFY
02:31 <Oskar> hello!
02:33 <Oskar> IDENTIFY
02:41 <Oskar> gah
02:45 <Avatar> lolllll
02:51 <Tristen> fail
02:56 <Hydrazine> Derp.
37:34 <Brunius> I need a new wallpaper for this compy.
37:36 <Brunius> Suggestions?
37:50 <Avatar> get onto google+
38:15 <Avatar> there are some amazing people who post good stuff you use as wallpaper
38:20 <Brunius> Dude
38:25 <Brunius> Why would I bother with Google+
38:30 <Brunius> It's just facebook
38:32 <Brunius> But not facebook
39:11 <Avatar> it's not though
39:23 <Avatar> facebook only ever has gossip in your feeds
39:28 <Avatar> google+ has content
39:43 <Avatar> which is what you're looking for right now
40:46 <Ballig> Brunius: http://i.imgur.com/CCe1d.jpg
40:49 <Ballig> that is your new wallpaper
41:09 <Brunius> Why
41:18 <Brunius> I could just print that out
41:23 <Brunius> And staple it to my forehead
41:25 <Brunius> For the same effect
41:35 <Ballig> you could say that about any wallpaper
41:45 <Brunius> No, that one in particular
41:53 <Brunius> It's not even a good quote
42:00 <Ballig> you're right
42:02 <Ballig> it's a great quote
42:12 <Brunius> It's a horrible quote
42:51 <Avatar> print it out and staple it to your forehead
42:55 <Avatar> before you come to conquest
42:57 <Avatar> I will bring my camera
43:01 <Brunius> Hahano
43:14 <Avatar> then I will post it to facebook
43:41 <Avatar> new profile pic
44:28 <Brunius> All I see on google+ is Avatar talking about resignation letters (which was on reddit), handmade dice (which I don't care about) and the shadowrun kickstarter (which I saw on games.on.net)
44:55 <Avatar> maybe you should add people other than me
45:09 <Avatar> like say, people who have wallpaper
45:53 <Brunius> Who would I add then?
48:05 <Avatar> check what I just shared with you
50:54 <Brunius> Chill tale brethren
51:00 <Brunius> Requires more draconic creatures
53:03 <Avatar> would be nice if focused shot worked with guns
53:08 <Avatar> bows and xbows only
53:10 <Avatar> cmon
53:24 <Avatar> the feat clearly has ranged weapons in mind
53:27 <Brunius> Yeah
53:38 <Brunius> What book is it from?
54:21 <Avatar> pathfinder chronicles campaign setting
54:40 <Brunius> Sah alt
54:48 <Brunius> Is there an updated version in ISWG
58:42 <Avatar> nope
58:46 <Avatar> not PFS legal
59:08 <Brunius> What isn't legal?
59:11 <Brunius> The updated version?
59:45 <Avatar> there is no updated version
00:03 <Brunius> What
00:11 <Brunius> So what isn't legal/
00:14 <Brunius> The feat at all?
00:24 <Avatar> yeah
00:56 <Brunius> So why are you talking about it?
01:14 <Avatar> I'm not, you are
02:34 <Brunius> [18:59:57] <Avatar> would be nice if focused shot worked with guns
02:34 <Brunius> [19:00:02] <Avatar> bows and xbows only
03:22 <Avatar> that was ages ago man
03:31 <Avatar> you have been questioning me nonstop since then
03:36 <Avatar> maybe I should stop answering your questions !
03:45 <Brunius> Do you think you should?
05:37 <Brunius> Haha
05:44 <Brunius> EA has been voted the worst company in america
07:20 <Brunius> Man it's wierd having an LCD
07:36 <Brunius> I keep trying to adjust it so it's more like my CRT
13:38 <Avatar> combat reflex/improved critical > seize the moment might be a good way to go
13:52 <Avatar> when an ally confirms a critical, you get an AoO
17:16 <Brunius> Is it a teamwork feat?
17:32 <Brunius> Gotta look out for those, they're usually something good until you see that it's a feat each
18:01 <Avatar> yeah
18:02 <Avatar> fk
18:18 <Brunius> Bloody annoying, they are
25:11 <Avatar> maybe I'll take deflect arrows
25:18 <Avatar> a gunslinger who can deflect bullets!
25:54 <Brunius> What are the prereqs like
26:02 <Brunius> Isn't it unarmed strike?
26:23 <Avatar> yeah
26:27 <Avatar> I get another feat next level
27:04 <Avatar> so three levels, three feats
27:19 <Avatar> with the first one happening before contime
32:57 <Brunius> Weapon Focus>Snap Shop>Sword and Pistol
32:58 <Brunius> Done
33:00 <Brunius> :P
33:11 <Brunius> This for Buck?
33:15 <Brunius> !findchar Buck
33:16 <dicebot> Brunius, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308
34:18 <Avatar> yeah
34:25 <Avatar> I don't want sword and pistol man, I don't use a sword
34:33 <Avatar> and I'd rather avoid snap shot
34:51 <Avatar> the problem with snap shot is you only provoke when they're moving within 5ft of your threatened space
34:56 <Avatar> which happens almost never
35:01 <Brunius> Yeah
35:04 <Avatar> it's a pre-req for improved snap shot, which is amazing
35:14 <Avatar> but that's a 2-useless-feat pre-req
35:24 <Brunius> Weapon Focus is great man
35:35 <Brunius> I bet you will miss by one at the con
35:42 <Brunius> and be like "Dang, wish I had weapon focus"
35:45 <Avatar> even if I do, it's rare
35:54 <Avatar> rare enough not to take a feat to resolve it
36:06 <Avatar> deft shootist might not be bad, requires dodge and mobility
36:08 <Spaceshot> weapon focus is overrated
36:14 <Avatar> don't provoke while reloading
36:16 <Avatar> or shooting
36:19 <Spaceshot> unless you require it for another feat
36:30 <Avatar> except 5ft steps usually take care of that anyway
36:31 <Brunius> Oh yeah, Spaceshot
36:48 <Spaceshot> yea wot?
36:55 <Brunius> You gave me and infantry squad AND a command squad AND a battleforce
37:03 <Spaceshot> wai wahat?
37:03 <Brunius> er
37:05 <Brunius> an*
37:05 <Spaceshot> what*
37:15 <Avatar> ah*
37:21 <Spaceshot> I gave you one of those boxes and and a battle box
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37:31 <Spaceshot> I don't remember both (didn't realise I had both, but maybe)
37:35 <Spaceshot> nice
37:36 <Brunius> Yeah, the battle box had the junk from two command squads in it
37:42 <Brunius> Not just one
37:43 <Spaceshot> oh, hahaha
37:43 <Spaceshot> I'd like to see a resurrection happen though :P
37:45 <Spaceshot> nice steal
37:50 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should see my EDH deck
37:54 <Spaceshot> <<sellers remorse
38:01 <Mekkis> it's designed to make judges go insane :)
38:05 * Spaceshot moans about how brunius ripped me off
38:14 <Steven> uploaded to tcg?
38:19 <Jumpy142> So I can choose any of the core races/classes?
38:21 <Mekkis> nope
38:26 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: no charazard at least
38:29 <Mekkis> nope
38:36 <Spaceshot> that's good
38:37 <Brunius> As long as they're not a prestige class, Jump
38:39 <Spaceshot> is it 5colour?
38:40 <Mekkis> but it does cause cards to cease to exist
38:43 <Mekkis> no
38:52 <Mekkis> the general is Sakashima the Imposter
38:52 <Spaceshot> mono blue?
38:56 <Mekkis> yeah
39:06 <Spaceshot> oh, I so hate mono blue EDH
39:13 <Spaceshot> anywho, got enough points now?
39:17 <Spaceshot> mainly because all the ones I've seen have 30+counters
39:17 <Mekkis> well... I didn't bring it
39:24 <Mort-> Read the pathfinder guide to organized play
39:27 <Mort-> Jumpy
39:28 <Mekkis> mine has three or four counters
39:40 <Mort-> It will tell you what you can or cannot do
39:40 <Steven> Sakashima is in my Arcanis Deck
39:57 <Jumpy142> I'm getting it now
39:58 <Spaceshot> I still need to update ava
40:06 <Mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/
40:09 <Mort-> this too
40:22 <Spaceshot> I did like playing EDH, but I don't have my deck anymore (and I'm not going to spend $200+ getting the good cards again)
40:26 <Mort-> Mostly this can be used but some things in there are not legal for play
40:44 <Mort-> Check on pazio the additional resources on source
40:50 <Steven> I think my Stonebrow deck is on tcg
40:52 <Steven> let me go find it
40:52 <Mekkis> Force of Will, Pact of Negation, Desertion and that XU counterspell with buyback
41:00 <Mort-> And make sure it fits the source of it
41:13 <Mort-> That says its legal for play
41:34 <Spaceshot> I did like buying 2 DTs for like 15bucks
41:35 <Spaceshot> in total
41:40 <Mekkis> as I said, with that deck, it can cause cards to cease to exist
42:07 <Spaceshot> lol
42:09 <Steven> http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=940636
42:15 <Spaceshot> do you have shit like foil
42:17 <Spaceshot> thwart
42:30 <Spaceshot> daze
42:34 <Mekkis> I probably should meet up with the L4s while I'm in Melbourne
42:55 <Mekkis> Steven, no Taiga?
42:56 <Brunius> L4s?
43:01 <Mekkis> Level 4 judge
43:02 <Spaceshot> I still have to choose my boon from RPT
43:10 <Brunius> Ah
43:13 <Avatar> the improved save feats aren't bad
43:16 <Mort-> I think its time to stash up my handi pack
43:17 <Steven> nope
43:22 <Mort-> For more packrat
43:25 <Avatar> I thought it would just be an additional +1 or something shit like that
43:32 <Spaceshot> haha
43:33 <Avatar> rerolling is good
43:36 <Spaceshot> +2, and then reroll :P
43:36 <Mekkis> my deck runs only two nonbasic lands
43:59 <Mekkis> Reliquary tower and Temple of False God
44:26 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: that reminds me, we need to play more of that online PtP mtg game/program
44:27 <Steven> yeah that deck i linked has a reliq tower
44:34 <Mekkis> Steven, you should run Panglacial Wurm
44:57 <Brunius> What online PtP mtg game/program is this?
45:01 <Jumpy142> So when rolling stats, do I roll 4d6 and take the lowest, or just 3d6?
45:02 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: no arcane labratory (or whatever it is that bounces wizards)
45:11 <Spaceshot> read the guide jumpy
45:16 <Brunius> Jumpy: Pathfinder Society uses point buy
45:18 <Brunius> It's in the guide
45:19 <Spaceshot> it says you do 20point buy
45:22 <Jumpy142> Oh ok
45:35 <Spaceshot> the rules to the point buy is guide as well
45:35 <Mekkis> there are three: Cockatrice, MWS and some shitty .net one
45:50 <Spaceshot> weren't we using the shitty .net one?
45:55 <Mekkis> yeah
45:59 <Mekkis> but we shouldn't
46:00 <Spaceshot> heh
46:01 <Mekkis> because it's shitty
46:03 <Brunius> I heard Cockatrice isn't that good
46:07 <Mekkis> why?
46:09 <Steven> http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck.asp?deck_id=961475
46:22 <Mekkis> last time I used cockatrice, it was still rather unstable
46:23 <Spaceshot> APPRENTICE + DRAFT
46:24 <Steven> thats an early version of my arcanis deck
46:33 <Spaceshot> whatever that draft program was called
46:44 <Brunius> Needz more cryptoplassm
46:44 <Mekkis> apprentice is really outdated
47:00 <Spaceshot> yea I know
47:11 <Spaceshot> also Steven, no soul ring?
47:16 <Mekkis> sol
47:29 <Steven> early version
47:41 <Spaceshot> still
47:46 <Spaceshot> need the soul ring
47:47 <Steven> when i posted it up i was like wheres my sol ring
47:48 <Mekkis> I don't like tutors in EDH
48:09 <Mekkis> (I run Shadow of Doubt and Mindlock Orb whenever possible)
48:15 <Spaceshot> and I'm guessing blah of the fittest (forgot the first word) is banned in EDH
48:32 <Mekkis> Survival?
48:37 <Mekkis> don't think so
48:46 <Spaceshot> haha
48:46 <Steven> junked the roil for the sol ring
48:54 <Brunius> Everyone seems to think I ripped them off
49:00 <Spaceshot> survival of the fitest + isochron with worldy tutor
49:01 <Mekkis> spreading seas? really?
49:02 <Spaceshot> I like those games
49:03 <Spaceshot> who me?
49:04 <Spaceshot> :P
49:25 <Steven> that was junked for....
49:28 <Spaceshot> it was in my 3 colour deck RGW or RGU (don't remember exactly)
49:29 <Steven> i dont remember
49:30 <Brunius> Yes, you're everyone
49:39 <Spaceshot> exactly
49:42 <Steven> it was something cool though
49:43 <Spaceshot> finnally you understand
49:55 <Spaceshot> I'm fine with it, ripped off or not
50:05 <Spaceshot> I still have to finish Ava for sunday :P
50:21 <Steven> oh yeah it was a darksteel
50:28 <Mekkis> Jin Gitaxis?
50:30 <Mekkis> yuck
51:00 <Steven> no jin gitax came in for the hatchery
51:09 <Brunius> I planning to finish my gunslinger by sunday
51:21 <Spaceshot> ok... how much gold should I have after completing 3 tier 1-2 scenarios?
51:22 <Brunius> He shall be a Tian-Min
51:25 <Spaceshot> roughly have that is
51:33 <Brunius> Approx 1500
51:41 <Brunius> Assuming you didn't uptier any
51:46 <Spaceshot> nup
51:58 <Spaceshot> so I guess I didn't add blackwater then
52:31 <Spaceshot> you don't have the all artifacts are indestructable card for your arcanis deck?
52:35 <Brunius> Blackwater
52:39 <Brunius> Isn't that a town in QLD
52:46 <Brunius> What
52:48 <Spaceshot> also, I've seen someones Karn deck, it was hilarious
52:55 <Brunius> All artifacts are indestructable card?
53:01 <Brunius> I must gain this card!
53:03 <Spaceshot> probably
53:09 <Spaceshot> but you know what I mean
53:11 <Spaceshot> troll
53:12 <Mekkis> my Sakashima deck has no win condition
53:13 <Brunius> (I play a mono-blue artifact deck)
53:14 <Spaceshot> yup, a darksteel artifact that costs like 8-12
53:20 <Mekkis> Darksteel Forge
53:22 <Spaceshot> decking?
53:26 <Spaceshot> Avatar: have you even used your aasimar yet?
53:27 <Spaceshot> that one
53:29 <Spaceshot> good card
53:36 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, no
53:44 <Spaceshot> funny in the karn deck
53:46 <Mekkis> it wins by copying opponent's creatures
53:50 <Mekkis> and attacking with them
53:51 <Brunius> You should give me your aasimar man
54:01 <Spaceshot> worldslayer + darksteel forge
54:02 <Spaceshot> heh
54:03 <Mekkis> secondary win conditions include using JTMS's uptimate
54:17 <Spaceshot> is there a legendary creature that can search the deck?
54:21 <Brunius> I will give you $2
54:26 <Mekkis> Nivyneral's Disk (sp) 
54:31 <Mekkis> + forge
54:40 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, are you trying to make a deck to piss me off?
54:41 <Spaceshot> haha
54:44 <Steven> yeah that came in for the font
54:57 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: no, because I'm going to make it
55:05 <Mekkis> it's a good way of causing all your opponents to concede
55:10 <Spaceshot> but I am theorising one XD
55:10 <Spaceshot> I'm more of looking for really shitty combos
55:20 <Spaceshot> like search deck, find that enchantment that switches decks :P
55:45 <Mekkis> I read an article about the most impressive combo
56:10 <Spaceshot> this for EDH?
56:28 <Mekkis> no
56:30 <Mekkis> http://draw3cards.com/questions/2851/is-magic-turing-complete
56:45 <Steven> yeah my most impressive combo was with stonebrow
56:51 <Steven> i killed 5 people in one turn
57:02 <Spaceshot> I'm really not sure what to spend my gold on
57:09 <Spaceshot> stonebrow the guy that buffs X spels?
57:11 <Spaceshot> spells*?
57:13 <Mekkis> nope
57:19 <Spaceshot> like you can trade a +1longspear for  +1scimitar and just pay the difference right?
57:25 <Brunius> Not quite
57:30 <Spaceshot> yea
57:34 <Brunius> You can trade a +1 scimitar for a +2 scimitar
57:38 <Brunius> and pay the difference
57:42 <Spaceshot> then I'm stumped on what gear to buy before level 7
57:45 <Brunius> But not changing weapons, to my understanding
58:11 <Mort-> I think its time for khaz and mort to go shopping
58:14 <Steven> no 4/4 trample, when something with trample attacks it gets 2/2 eot
58:50 <Mekkis> my Sakashima deck cares about: Phasing, Copy effects, interactions of continuous effects, Licids, replacement effects, really strange replacement effects
58:55 <Steven> i had beastmasters ascention out
00:02 <Avatar> you can't change weapons, only upgrade the bonus
00:07 <Spaceshot> yea didn't think so
00:19 <Spaceshot> guess I'll only be uping my buckler then :P
00:28 <Spaceshot> which I'll be negating half of the time anyway
01:36 <Avatar> I'm selling my buckler I think
01:48 <Spaceshot> so there's no point me getting a +1 longspear if at level 7 I'll be wanting to fight with a scimitar
01:59 <Spaceshot> same with a +1 chainshirt and wanting to use fullplate
02:05 <Avatar> right
02:38 <Spaceshot> then I guess I'll be buying a rod of reach soon then
02:46 <Spaceshot> you can upgrade magical items right?
02:52 <Brunius> I think so
02:54 <Spaceshot> like rods and +x items
03:01 <Brunius> +x items for sure
03:05 <Brunius> What do you mean with rods?
03:11 <Spaceshot> lesser, normal, greater
03:37 <Brunius> Don't think you can
03:37 <Spaceshot> 3 or lower is lesser, 6 or lower normal, and 9 or lower is greater
03:45 <Spaceshot> I'll have to look that up
03:59 <Spaceshot> because I'll want a normal once I get higher levl
04:01 <Spaceshot> level*
07:03 <Spaceshot> I should probably spend 2PP to get a CLW wand right?
07:35 <Brunius> Probably
07:44 <Brunius> Unless you're specifically saving up for a raise dead
07:54 <Spaceshot> heh
08:05 <Spaceshot> well I'm going to be buying me a bairak
08:13 <Spaceshot> or however you pronounce your pally
08:27 <Spaceshot> aka buying a shining wayfinder for 2PP (2PP for 2k is awesome)
09:24 <Brunius> Bairaq
09:36 <Spaceshot> obama
09:37 <Spaceshot> gotcha
09:54 <Brunius> ha, ha, ha.
09:57 <Brunius> So funny yo
10:06 <Spaceshot> tis
10:11 <Spaceshot> get back into office yo
10:24 <Spaceshot> you've got dem healthcare to reform, yo dig?
10:57 <Brunius> I should max out diplomacy
12:44 <cradel> hi
12:54 <Avatar> hi
12:55 <Brunius> Hey cradel
12:58 <Brunius> What's up?
13:06 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
13:11 <cradel> im the real kuniva
13:24 <Brunius> real what?
15:20 <Brunius> I think they speak that language over in #asd
15:24 <Brunius> cradel
16:16 <Avatar> cradel
16:17 <Avatar> are you there
16:25 <Brunius> :(
16:30 <Brunius> And I thought I had a new friend
16:32 <Avatar> come play some sweet d&d
29:45 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
30:01 <Ballig_> süp
30:13 <Steven> just woke up
30:22 <Steven> totaly skipped pfs tonight down at the shop
30:41 <Steven> sam was happy cause i spent the time with her
31:08 <Brunius> Why did you place an umlaut about your u, Ballig?
31:39 <Ballig_> because I was goingt to do multiple Us like Steven, but apparently this tablet keyboard gives you the option of a foreign U whhen you type it multiple times
32:00 <Brunius> Ah
32:10 <Steven> i can do that with mine
32:23 <Steven> but i just have it turned off
36:35 <Spaceshot> hmmm...
36:43 <Spaceshot> who would be up for a PFS session tomorrow?
36:55 <Spaceshot> I'm tempted running one of the first steps
36:57 <Jumpy142> Hey guys, it's me back from earlier. What is it I should look at?
36:59 <Spaceshot> preferably 1 or 3
37:51 <Steven> you should look at this
37:59 * Steven flashes his junk
38:07 <Steven> BATWING!
38:41 <Steven> and space, whatcha gonna run?
40:36 <Jumpy142_> Hi
41:00 <Steven> you got batwinged jumpy
41:18 <Jumpy142_> What's that mean?
41:28 <Steven> notta
41:34 <Steven> dont worry about it
41:43 <Jumpy142_> Kk :)
47:01 <Mort-> Won't be around tomorrow
47:14 <Mort-> Definitely
47:14 <Steven> why not?
47:16 <Steven> big date?
47:32 <Mort-> Long due shopping trip
47:50 <Steven> sam says not as cool as a big date
50:08 <Spaceshot> Steven: First steps
50:11 <Spaceshot> not sure which one
50:22 <Spaceshot> I've only played 1 and 3, so 2 would be a bit slower for me to run
50:46 <Spaceshot> unless someone already dibs-ed tomorrow's slot (easter friday during the day)
52:17 <Brunius> I'd play tomorrow, I guess
52:50 <Spaceshot> I so wish I hit level 4 when I finished RPT with Ava
52:57 <Spaceshot> then signature spell would be worth it
53:00 <Brunius> Is a batwing where you stretch the skin out?
53:09 <Brunius> so all the veins show?
53:15 <Brunius> That's twisted man
53:24 <Steven> sure is
54:19 <Spaceshot> is there any level 1 cleric spell that is worth getting +2caster levels for determining duration and level based variables?
54:55 <Mort-> Hm
58:00 <Spaceshot> screw it, time to maximise CLW
58:11 <MekkisScreen> greetings from MEL
58:21 <Brunius> I prefer LAX
58:29 <Brunius> But you can take your pic, I guess
58:33 <Steven> so 1d8+3?
58:38 <Spaceshot> LAX?
58:51 <Spaceshot> Steven: Ava is level 3, so 1d8+5
59:01 <Steven> sounds pretty....... crappy
59:03 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: as I said earlier, if I get roped nto running something, you can habve my tickets
59:06 <Spaceshot> wait...
59:11 <Spaceshot> I'm not sure if it'd stack
59:15 <Spaceshot> god damnit
59:30 <Spaceshot> the revelation says the maximum bonus is equal to oracle level, bah
59:37 <Brunius> Ha
59:46 <Spaceshot> back to the drawing board
59:47 <Brunius> I would rule it does stack
59:56 <Brunius> Cheers, Mekkis
00:04 <Steven> brb gonna go to the store for sam
05:59 <Mort-> Hi mek
07:37 <Spaceshot> hmm... how fast to objects fall in pathfinder?
08:09 <Brunius> Very very fast
08:13 <Brunius> Instantly
08:14 <Mort-> Resonance doesn't work in pfs does it?
08:42 <Spaceshot> I'm more of thinking, summon monster above target, watch target take damage and lol
08:57 <Brunius> ha
09:08 <***> Buffer Playback...
09:09 <***> Playback Complete.
09:12 <Brunius> I should make a caster designed to make GMs go insane
09:18 <Brunius> Bring up all the obscure rules
09:18 <Spaceshot> that's why I want to know how high up I can summon the monster
09:27 <Spaceshot> Brunius: most broken spell is create water
09:31 <Spaceshot> and I'm thinking of signaturing it :P
09:42 <Brunius> I've been casting it non-stop in 3.5
09:42 <Mekkis> witness the results of an unlocked n97 in a pocket
09:46 <Brunius> Just for ghits and shiggles
09:51 <Brunius> Called it
09:53 <Spaceshot> :P
09:55 <Spaceshot> yes
10:05 <Spaceshot> it's actually a really good combat spell in a dungeon
10:20 <Spaceshot> you are on the ball [1]Jumpy142
10:29 <Spaceshot> open door, find monsters, have tank at door ready to close it when you cast create water
10:30 <Spaceshot> :P
10:58 <[1]Jumpy142> so which one, as many lvl 0 as I want or just 3?
11:14 <Mekkis> [1]Jumpy142, your spellbook contains all of them
11:25 <Mekkis> each day, you can prepare three, to cast at-will that day
11:35 <[1]Jumpy142> ok then
11:41 <[1]Jumpy142> and I get 2 lvl1's
11:47 <[1]Jumpy142> out of the 5 that I know
11:51 <[1]Jumpy142> sweet
11:57 <[1]Jumpy142> now, what to choose...
12:12 <Jumpy142> Mort-: hi, it's jumpy142 from earlier today, what are those documents I need to read?
12:21 <Mort-> Uh
12:25 <Mort-> Avatar?
12:28 <[1]Jumpy142> I only get to cast lvl1 spells once a day?
12:30 <Steven> if you find a spell book you can copy spells from that spellbook into yours
12:35 <Mekkis> smart wizards don't fill all their slots :)
12:52 <Mort-> At least one acid splash/ray of frost
12:55 <Mort-> Yeah flexibility
12:57 <Mort-> www.pfrpg.com.au/newbie_guide.htm
12:58 <Mort-> Ok
12:58 <Mort-> I heard
13:01 <Jumpy142> Remember me, I'm new?
13:03 <Mort-> Maybe ill try it
13:06 <Mort-> Back to trolling boards
13:11 <Mort-> How long to study one level 1 sell
13:13 <Mort-> Spell
13:20 <[1]Jumpy142> I'm getting burning hands and floating disc at least
13:25 <Jumpy142> No...
13:39 <Jumpy142> I couldn't read the docos because I wasnt at home
14:02 <Mort-> Why do you want floating disk ^^
14:13 <[1]Jumpy142> 9 str
14:19 * Mort- gives a little snicker
14:21 <Mort-> ok
14:28 <Mort-> Its 1 h per level
14:35 <Mort-> So you can consider scrolling it
14:41 <[1]Jumpy142> what now?
14:44 <Mekkis> [1]Jumpy142, you will want Mage Armour
14:45 <Mekkis> :S
14:50 <[1]Jumpy142> what do you mean by these things?
14:51 <Mort-> Also burning hands. Is a close range combat spell
14:54 <Mort-> So.
15:05 <[1]Jumpy142> idk then
15:08 <Mort-> I'm on cell
15:12 <[1]Jumpy142> I've got no idea :/
15:20 <Mort-> Well i personally think buff spells should be scrolled
15:24 <Mort-> And I'm reading stuff :o
15:30 <[1]Jumpy142> so, Mage Armor, you say?
15:32 <Mekkis> I personally think you're REALLY INCORRECT!
15:34 <Mekkis> :)
15:37 <Mort-> Read the spell descriptions
15:40 <Mort-> Lol
15:41 <Mekkis> just as Mellon what happens when you don't cast Mage Armour
15:44 <Mort-> You have spells
15:46 <Mekkis> ask*
15:53 <Mort-> I have mage armor
16:01 <Mort-> I never go around without it mek
16:03 <Mort-> ^^
16:16 <[1]Jumpy142> so mage armor is a good idea?
16:17 <Mort-> I even had a pearl special for it
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16:41 <mortswishytail> And yes
16:47 <mortswishytail> I do have mage armor
17:06 <[1]Jumpy142> Magic Missile?
17:13 <mortswishytail> I even have plans on how to recast it when it wears out
17:25 <mortswishytail> One of my personal favourites yes
17:53 <mortswishytail> Oh mek.
17:54 <mortswishytail> How long to study one spell
18:02 <[1]Jumpy142> 8 hours rest
18:04 <[1]Jumpy142> 1 hour study
18:18 <Steven> OOOOOOOR
18:19 <mortswishytail> Actually its just probably 10 min
18:21 <Jumpy142> Oh yeah, that was the link
18:22 <mortswishytail> Its one spell
18:24 <Jumpy142> Thanks :)
18:28 <mortswishytail> Not my entire spell book
18:29 <Steven> you could get a cleric to hang around and cast Nap Stack
18:36 <mortswishytail> Unused spell plot
18:38 <mortswishytail> Plot
18:44 <Spaceshot> nap sack?
19:06 <Spaceshot> magic missile is ok, but I think it's eh
19:17 <[1]Jumpy142> what should I get?
19:23 <[1]Jumpy142> I really have no idea...
19:37 <Mort-> Yeah have a good read
19:44 <Mort-> Ask if you have questions
20:17 <Spaceshot> look at all the evocation spells
20:21 <Spaceshot> and take practically all of them
20:37 <[1]Jumpy142> also, are there any extended descriptions? Jump just says "Subject gets bonus on Acrobatics tests"
20:46 <Jumpy142> Yep... The character sheet looks really complicated...
20:47 <Spaceshot> are you using the SRD?
20:48 <[1]Jumpy142> how much bonus?
21:14 <Jumpy142> What is pathfinder?
21:18 <Spaceshot> if you are using the website, you should be able to click on the spell name
21:19 <[1]Jumpy142> Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Core Reference Guide
21:26 <mortswishytail> 15 minutes
21:39 <Spaceshot> and it will give a better description
21:41 <Steven> nap stack is basically 2hrs of rest instead of 8
22:59 <Spaceshot> Paizo's improved version of dnd 3.5
23:29 <Spaceshot> nice
23:33 <Spaceshot> what level?
23:41 <Jumpy142> And Paizo is...?
23:43 <Mort-> Its an adventure where you go around playing things by scenario
23:49 <Steven> 3rd
23:53 <Mort-> Creator of the world
23:54 <Spaceshot> ahh
24:04 <Spaceshot> do you know of dnd?
24:13 <Mort-> Have you played other stuff like neverwinter nights
24:23 <Mort-> Baldurs gate etc?
24:29 <Jumpy142> Yeah
24:38 <Jumpy142> Spaceshot: I play 4e
24:50 <Spaceshot> oh...
25:01 <mortswishytail> Ok mort is done
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25:06 <Spaceshot> meh, there are better level 3 spells, at least for an oracle :P
25:16 <Spaceshot> well, pathfinder is what we play here
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25:21 <Brunius> Paizo used to publish Dragon and Dungeon magazine
25:27 <Spaceshot> that
25:27 <Jumpy142> I know nothing about what goes before it
25:29 <Brunius> Before WotC revoke their rights
25:36 <Brunius> revoked*
25:37 <Spaceshot> Jumpy142: that's not an issue
26:01 <[1]Jumpy142> whats with the components: V, S, M (a drop of mercury)?
26:04 <Steven> yeah, there are better spells
26:05 <Spaceshot> it's the same style of game, but less focused around combat and there's more roleplay
26:15 <Steven> unless your rockin a party with two wizards
26:20 <Spaceshot> skills actually have a meaning in pathfinder
26:27 <Mort-> The setting is sort of medival. You create your character and start going on a series of stuffs
26:32 <Spaceshot> (I've played 4e, for about 2 years, so I know it)
26:35 <Jumpy142> Sounds cool
26:51 <Spaceshot> Mort-: he's played 4e, but it's good you're trying at least XD
27:06 <Mort-> Trying?
27:15 <Jumpy142> I'm attempting to roll up a character, am I allowed any race/class or are there restrictions?
27:15 <Mort-> Urm what did you mean
27:22 <Mort-> Argh
27:27 <Steven> then its great, cause the two wizzies can just spam those spells
27:40 <Spaceshot> usually anything that isn't 3rd party is allowed
27:45 <Mort-> Space go find him the pathfinders guide to organized play
27:51 <[1]Jumpy142> ?
28:01 <Spaceshot> isn't it on that newbies guide?
28:04 <Brunius> Your race is limited to the core rulebook
28:06 <Spaceshot> the link at least?
28:32 <Mort-> paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
28:34 <Brunius> Most Paizo-published base classes are allowed, if not all
28:44 <Mort-> Read more books
28:46 <Mort-> It is
28:48 <Spaceshot> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
28:54 <Spaceshot> get that Jumpy142
28:58 <Mort-> But i assumed if he didn't manage to spot it
28:59 <Brunius> Nice one, Spaceshot
29:02 <Spaceshot> it'll give you yet another helpful tool
29:05 <Mort-> We would get to show it to in
29:06 <Mort-> Him
29:20 <Brunius> Schteven
29:22 <Steven> Faction mission complete!
29:26 <[1]Jumpy142> ok: traits.
29:27 <Spaceshot> and a guide of what to both expect, and how to create your character in a good order
29:35 <[1]Jumpy142> what are they, how do I find them?
29:37 <Spaceshot> Steven: do you get good rewards?
29:45 <Steven> Brownie points
29:53 <Spaceshot> or is it just gold and an average scroll/pot that's able to be bought?
29:54 <Steven> they are like prestige only i can turn them in for sex too
30:28 <Steven> BOOBIES!
31:32 <Spaceshot> components are V for verbal, S for somatic (using hand/s) and M for material
31:58 <[1]Jumpy142> ah ok
32:14 <[1]Jumpy142> so can't cast if I'm mute or bound?
33:29 <Spaceshot> usually
33:35 <Spaceshot> being silenced you can't cast
33:40 <Spaceshot> being deaf you have a 20% chance of failure
33:56 <[1]Jumpy142> kk
34:01 <Steven> unless you have the silent metamagic or a rod of silent meta
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34:06 <Spaceshot> not sure about bounded part (you'd have to look it up)
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34:24 <[1]Jumpy142> anyway, I'm going to bed now, I'll talk to you guys about traits tomorrow
34:33 <Steven> bye
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34:54 <Steven> oh mans!  i just looked up for the first time in like 10 minutes
35:10 <Steven> and sam is watching softcore porn on tv
35:43 <Steven> i was like what the hell are you watching
35:51 <Steven> her response... i dunno it looked sexy though
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36:04 <Steven> im dating such a freak!
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36:57 <Steven> ouch.... she just punched me
37:03 <Steven> for telling you all that
38:14 <Spaceshot> hahaha
38:22 <Spaceshot> Steven: I so hate you right now
38:23 <Spaceshot> XD
38:27 <mortswishytail> My god
38:29 <mortswishytail> I didn't
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38:45 <Steven> why for you hate me?
38:48 <Spaceshot> so jelly
38:51 <Mort-> Wtf?
38:51 <Spaceshot> :P
39:05 <Steven> what is this jelly you speak of?
39:06 <Mort-> The Archer in party has disable device?
39:06 <Mort-> Lol
39:31 <Steven> his code name is Duchess 
39:45 <Steven> and im pretty sure Duchess has disable device skills
40:40 <Mort-> He is a archer fighter arch type
41:10 <Spaceshot> Steven: you know what I mean, you're so lucky
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41:42 <Spaceshot> americans get everything, cheap games, lots of good resturants, huge shops, lots of awesome conventions
41:55 <Spaceshot> shit jobs, shit economy, lolcare
41:56 <Spaceshot> XD
42:21 <Steven> yeah
43:15 <Steven> we got lots of kick ass stuff
43:18 <Steven> and lots of shit stuff
46:07 <Spaceshot> yup
46:20 <Spaceshot> I think you kinda lose to australia, mainly because of the economy thing
46:30 <Steven> i dunno
46:41 <Steven> we dont have 7 out of the worlds top 10 deadliest spiders
47:32 <Mekkis> Steven, yeah
47:45 <Mekkis> but 9.5 out of 10 people here are employed!
48:45 <Mekkis> (unfortunately, in this channel, it's closer to 2/7)
49:21 <Spaceshot> Mekkis: most of those are still doing study
49:39 <Mekkis> not mutually exclusive!
49:40 <Spaceshot> so it's more like avatar out of all of us is unemployed
50:06 <Steven> im not unemployed
50:09 <Steven> im disabled
50:31 <Spaceshot> that reminds me, hopefully next week I'll get checked
51:02 <Spaceshot> for all my shit
51:09 <Mekkis> next week I'll get chequed
51:24 <Steven> playing some hockey?
51:31 <Mekkis> no
51:41 <Mekkis> getting a pay cheque
55:41 <Spaceshot> but yea, I really hope I get to find out why I'm always ragy and depressed/emo
55:52 <Jumpy142> 17
55:54 <Brunius> 17+2 mort
55:55 <Mort-> Its a point buy system
55:55 <Steven> 87 damage through stalking vengeance for the win
56:00 <Jumpy142> +2 racial bonus
56:05 <Mort-> Ok so what are your stats like
56:11 <Mort-> Just to have a look?
56:20 <Mort-> Since you said you haven't done it before
56:22 <Jumpy142> 10, 12, 15, 19, 12, 7
56:30 <Brunius> With a 19, you get 4 bonus languages
56:31 <Steven> ouch...
56:37 <Steven> 3 odd numbers
56:46 <Steven> lack of sex?
57:04 <Jumpy142> Any suggestions? I'm playing a wizard
57:09 <Steven> okay...
57:11 <Steven> more dex
57:29 <Jumpy142> Remove from con?
57:50 <Steven> wouldnt be horrible idea
57:59 <Steven> because to stay out of combat
58:05 <Steven> you're going to cast fly on yourself
58:14 <Mort-> Elf or human
58:14 <Jumpy142> Ah ok
58:25 <Mort-> Clearly a wizard
58:31 <Jumpy142> Half-Orc ;)
58:33 <Steven> and you want a decent dex so you dont fly out of control and bang into shit
58:38 <Jumpy142> TWIST!
58:51 <Steven> alternate racial? +1 fire damage?
58:51 <Mort-> You will get 4 extra languages
59:09 <Jumpy142> So what should I do with 
59:16 <Jumpy142> My ability scores?
59:17 <Spaceshot> nope :P
59:30 <Spaceshot> :P
59:36 <Mort-> Its a 20 point buy
59:36 <Steven> well... i got me some just a few hours and im already feeling a lack of sex
59:37 <Spaceshot> alternate racial is only +1/2 fire
59:38 <Mekkis> not getting out enough/
59:39 <Spaceshot> but still is good
59:39 <Jumpy142> Take 1 from con to give 1 to Rex?
59:40 <Mekkis> ?
59:41 <Brunius> Uuum
59:43 <Jumpy142> Dex
59:51 <Brunius> If you're a half-orc, how did you get to 17 int
59:55 <Mort-> I'm checking if the stats you posted are possible first
59:57 <Brunius> Don't they get -2 to int?
59:59 <Jumpy142> Points
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