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00:47:01 <Avatar> what does the magus have to do with anything
00:50:17 <War_Wrecker> d8 hit die
00:52:24 <Avatar> oh right
00:52:32 <Avatar> I don't think that was apparent :P
00:52:45 <Avatar> is there a spell that increases skill to swim
00:52:56 <Avatar> freedom of movement I guess
00:53:27 <Avatar> it might be worth investing a couple thousand in that to get out of emergency grapples/swim situations where you'd otherwise die
00:55:35 <Avatar> actually freedom of movement lets you swim freely doesn't it
00:55:39 <Avatar> the spell description clear
00:55:42 <Avatar> isn't clear*
00:57:12 <Avatar> it's actually only 700gp for a scroll
00:57:18 <Avatar> not as bad as I thought
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01:34:51 <Avatar> Doombunny
01:34:53 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
01:44:10 <War_Wrecker> Spire defenders can enhance their skill rolls
01:45:33 <Avatar> what's a spire defender
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02:09:21 <Doombunny> Anyone about that can help me sign up for the First Steps Part 2 game on Friday?
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02:09:31 <Duhz> You sign up for the website?
02:09:56 <Duhz> Cause usually you just grab an admin and they're pretty awesome about helping you out.
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02:11:02 <Doombunny> I guess I didn't see any place to signup?
02:13:28 <Duhz> You might just need an admin to do it
02:13:37 <Duhz> They're usually on pretty often
02:14:03 <Doombunny> Okay, cool. I'll just keep checking in from time to time.
02:14:16 <Doombunny> Thanks
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02:30:05 <Steven> BOOBIES!
03:02:45 <Avatar> Steven: not classy
03:02:53 <Avatar> Doombunny: have you played before?
03:03:05 <Doombunny> PFS? Many times
03:03:13 <Avatar> sweet
03:03:20 <Avatar> what format is your character sheet in
03:03:32 <Avatar> paper, text or pdf
03:03:39 <Doombunny> I have Herolab, so I can export it to pdf no problem.
03:03:45 <Avatar> export it to text
03:03:50 <Doombunny> Okay
03:03:52 <Avatar> I'll set you up with an account, sec
03:04:21 <Avatar> I'll need your character name(s)
03:04:53 <Doombunny> Hakan Nordulfr
03:05:46 <Avatar> is that one character
03:05:50 <Avatar> I only need a first name
03:05:56 <Avatar> or whatever people refer to him by
03:06:02 <Avatar> which could be a nickname or even just a surname
03:07:41 <Avatar> brb, I've got to reboot
03:07:47 <Avatar> my computer is shitting itself
03:07:52 <Avatar> I've added Hakan
03:07:53 <Doombunny> Ha okay
03:07:56 <Avatar> hopefully that's it?
03:08:06 <Doombunny> That's right, yeah
03:09:42 <Avatar> once you've logged in I'll send you some invites to games
03:09:44 <Avatar> brb
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03:25:51 <Doombunny> I'm logged in and have my sheet uploaded for Hakan
03:32:55 <Avatar> and you're being sent updates
03:33:12 <Avatar> what's your availability like
03:33:23 <Avatar> it's 3am here
03:33:28 <Avatar> re the times in the topic
03:33:41 <Avatar> the scheduler on the site will match your timezone
03:34:11 <Doombunny> I'm in the States on Eastern time, so it will just depend on what I have going on from week to week in school.
03:35:14 <Avatar> your character sheet doesn't show how much exp you have?
03:35:21 <Avatar> or prestige or fame
03:35:46 <Avatar> is it a new character
03:36:29 <Doombunny> Hmm, maybe it didn't grab that info.
03:36:45 <Doombunny> He's done First Steps 1 and 3
03:36:52 <Avatar> okay
03:36:55 <Doombunny> I'll try to fix that
03:36:57 <Avatar> have you played any other scenarios
03:37:03 <Doombunny> Not with Hakan
03:37:11 <Avatar> what other characters do you have
03:37:24 <Avatar> I'll add them all
03:37:40 <Doombunny> I have a level 7 Cleric, Reynaldi
03:38:12 <Doombunny> A level 2 Sea Singer, Gonk
03:38:41 <Avatar> cool
03:38:45 <Avatar> added both
03:38:50 <Doombunny> Awesome
03:38:51 <Avatar> never heard of sea singer
03:38:54 <Avatar> is that a bard archetype
03:38:59 <Doombunny> It's kind of a bard pirate
03:39:07 <Avatar> very nice
03:39:07 <Doombunny> Yeah
03:39:12 <Doombunny> He's really fun
03:39:20 <Doombunny> You get a parrot or monkey familiar
03:39:40 <Avatar> you'll want to consider grabbing the character sheet template from the downloads section of the site
03:39:47 <Avatar> copy/paste sections of the herolabs export to it
03:39:57 <Avatar> it's a lot clearer
03:40:06 <Doombunny> Okay
03:40:22 <Avatar> the skills section on the herolabs one is pretty woeful
03:40:52 <Avatar> special abilities can probably be copy pasted over to misc bonuses in its entirety
03:41:52 <Doombunny> Just save that as a text file?
03:42:49 <Avatar> copy paste it into the character sheet template text file
03:42:59 <Avatar> from the downloads section
03:43:04 <Doombunny> Got it
03:43:31 <Avatar> it takes some time, but it'll be worth it
03:46:55 <Steven> im back
03:47:02 <Steven> had to go to the store
03:47:10 <Steven> sam off all day...
03:47:16 <Steven> she decides to go hang with her mom
03:47:31 <Steven> so i did all the shopping that needed done
03:47:38 <Steven> and now im sitting at home bored
03:47:42 <Steven> fml
03:47:52 <Avatar> maybe you should GM a game
03:47:56 <Avatar> just sayin'
03:48:12 <Steven> all my friends are at school right now
03:52:08 <Doombunny> Thanks for getting me set up, Avatar
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04:11:26 <Avatar> we're your friends
04:11:33 <Avatar> of course we're all asleep right now
04:11:58 <Avatar> I think I have to find a job that does graveyard shifts
04:12:20 <Steven> i mean all my friends around here in pullman/moscow
04:12:48 <Avatar> I mean GM a game in here
04:13:06 <Steven> dont even know how to play with ca
04:13:20 <Steven> i know how to start it up and thats booot it
04:13:28 <Avatar> have you tried using it
04:15:26 <Steven> not really, havent played around with it too much
04:15:53 <Steven> awwww man
04:16:01 <Steven> looks like its the immortal conundrum tonight
04:16:03 <Avatar> maybe you should try that
04:16:17 <Avatar> one of us will be running immortal conundrum in here soon
04:16:25 <Avatar> great scenario
04:17:05 <Steven> yeah, ive already played it, means ill gm it tonight so long as bobby doesnt throw a bitch fit like he did last week
04:17:12 <Steven> which he will, cause he a lame ass
04:17:33 <Avatar> haha what's the deal with this bobby character
04:17:38 <Avatar> why do you play with him
04:17:47 <Avatar> he sounds like a nightmare
04:17:53 <Steven> i dont play with him anymore
04:17:58 <Steven> but he is always there
04:18:33 <Steven> and he gets away with a lot of shit simply because he's been there since forever
04:18:58 <Steven> and he works with walter, so if walter jumps his shit he also creates drama for his work situation
04:19:48 <Steven> its just one of those things ya know
04:20:05 <Steven> so i dont play with bobby anymore
04:20:16 <Steven> so far there are 4 of us on the 'will not play with bobby list'
04:20:47 <Avatar> man
04:21:04 <Avatar> that's completely fucked
04:21:08 <Steven> yup
04:21:21 <Avatar> so he joins in your games or else he creates drama in walter's work?
04:21:36 <Avatar> is that right
04:21:50 <Avatar> I mean other than that I can't see how you would even let him play
04:21:59 <Avatar> rather than telling him he's not playing
04:22:05 <Avatar> and asking him to leave the table
04:22:24 <Avatar> what's he going to do, pretend he's in the initiative order or try to roleplay with a GM who isn't playing with him
04:22:28 <Avatar> it just wouldn't work
04:22:36 <Avatar> you guys would have to let him play
04:22:46 <Steven> no he will likely bug people until someone lets him gm
04:23:23 <Avatar> how does he bug them
04:23:42 <Steven> there are 5 other people who are willing to GM, and he will just go around and repeatedly ask them to let him GM, the guy is seriously a douche.
04:25:31 <Steven> yeah, ill either end up gming tonight or ill just play EDH with the shop owner
04:27:03 <Avatar> what's EDH
04:27:18 <Steven> magic the gathering
04:27:27 <Steven> its a play style
04:31:57 <War_Wrecker> yeah I've just been making an EDH deck list myself
04:32:02 <War_Wrecker> using...
04:32:04 <Steven> general?
04:32:09 <Steven> if you say rafiq
04:32:12 <War_Wrecker> http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=121162
04:32:12 <Steven> im going to ignore you forever
04:32:14 <War_Wrecker> ZUR!
04:32:28 <Steven> so you want to be targeted and killed first then
04:32:40 <War_Wrecker> Hm?
04:32:48 <Steven> zur is an aggro magnet
04:32:58 <Steven> doesnt matter how well or bad your deck is doing, people will hit you first
04:33:31 <War_Wrecker> for good reason
04:33:48 <War_Wrecker> And that's why I'll put out the enchantments that make me and zur indestructible/untargetable
04:33:51 <Steven> its on the same level as rafiq
04:34:25 <Steven> would be nice to play your zur deck against my colfonor deck
04:34:40 <War_Wrecker> what multiplayer format is EDH normally played in anyhow?
04:34:42 <War_Wrecker> Pentagon?
04:35:03 <Steven> just whatever you want to do it as.
04:35:18 <Steven> we once played a 9 player emporor edh game
04:35:24 <War_Wrecker> Yeah well I always get mass focused in games with more than 3 players
04:35:27 <War_Wrecker> I play black decks
04:35:32 <War_Wrecker> They always do nasty things to people
04:35:42 <Steven> yeah, recursion decks are nasty
04:35:51 <War_Wrecker> I mean they're not the most dangerous
04:35:57 <War_Wrecker> but a white deck builds up without hurting anyone
04:36:02 <War_Wrecker> its easy to ignore a white deck
04:36:12 <War_Wrecker> whereas a black deck is going to be making things explode constantly
04:36:26 <Steven> i built my colfonor deck to counter graveyard, artifact, enchantment decks
04:36:53 <War_Wrecker> Well I just started making this list earlier today
04:37:02 <Steven> its got like 15 anti artifact/enchantment
04:37:07 <War_Wrecker> Going for a handful of enchantments
04:37:08 <Steven> and 7 pieces of graveyard hate
04:37:15 <War_Wrecker> Shit load of counter spells
04:37:26 <War_Wrecker> The rest is mana and mana acceleration really
04:37:39 <Steven> and people are like your deck does nothing but hate on my deck
04:37:44 <Steven> and then i kill them in one turn with poison
04:37:57 <War_Wrecker> How?
04:38:30 <Steven> cause it only takes 10 poison counters
04:39:20 <Steven> or my other favorite way is mind crank bloodchief ascension
04:39:36 <War_Wrecker> I have a protection from creatures enchantment in here somewhere
04:39:53 <War_Wrecker> THERE IS AN ENCHANTMENT FOR EVERYTHING
04:40:28 <War_Wrecker> I just need to assemble a proper list
04:40:30 <Steven> not really, theres no way to stop an bloodchief ascension mind crank from killing you.
04:40:31 <War_Wrecker> then do a price check
04:40:42 <War_Wrecker> then go cry because its $300
04:40:44 <Avatar> I think I just figured out a bit of a loophole in PFS
04:40:46 <War_Wrecker> and not buy a card again
04:40:51 <Avatar> you're not supposed to trade with other players right
04:40:57 <Avatar> but you can still share items within a scenario
04:41:10 <Steven> you're not allowed to trade with other players pas the end of a scenario
04:41:19 <Avatar> so really, if a wizard buys a big bad longsword for a fighter with their money
04:41:23 <Avatar> that's perfectly legit isn't it
04:41:27 <Steven> no
04:41:27 <Avatar> as long as they give it back
04:41:42 <Steven> only if they want to lend it every time
04:41:48 <Avatar> yeah assuming they lend it every time
04:41:49 <Steven> and what if the fighter gets put into a different table
04:41:55 <Avatar> well then he's screwed
04:41:57 <Steven> he no longer has that longbow
04:42:03 <Avatar> but it's still pretty decent
04:42:14 <Avatar> makes you rethink what you should buy
04:42:30 <Steven> its usually not a good thing to buy a weapon for another character
04:42:40 <Avatar> I'm just using the weapon as an example
04:42:52 <War_Wrecker> Steven, bloodchief ascension mind crank is only a problem if it deals damage
04:42:58 <Avatar> people should probably share equipment more often
04:43:09 <Steven> bloodchief ascension doesnt deal damage, its life loss
04:43:25 <War_Wrecker> Loss of life
04:43:30 <Steven> which would proc mind crank, which would proc bloodchief, and keeps going
04:43:40 <War_Wrecker> Still needs something initial to start it off
04:43:47 <War_Wrecker> and there's this thing called counter spells
04:43:49 <Steven> all players discard a card
04:44:15 <Steven> you casting the spell would proc bloodchief upon resolution which would start the cycle
04:44:17 <War_Wrecker> discarding a card doesn't trigger it
04:44:28 <War_Wrecker> You need to loose life to get the quest counters
04:44:30 <War_Wrecker> hows that happening
04:44:41 <Steven> that is rediculously easy to get to happen in edh
04:44:46 <Steven> there are usually 3 other players
04:44:54 <Steven> all willing to do damage to each other
04:45:00 <War_Wrecker> So you're getting those 2 cards within the first turn?
04:45:04 <War_Wrecker> first 3 turns?
04:45:10 <Steven> which will put the counters on it
04:45:19 <Steven> its a combo, its not going to go off every single game
04:45:24 <War_Wrecker> That's the think
04:45:32 <War_Wrecker> Zur does not care for the luck of the draw
04:45:33 <Steven> but it will happen fairly reliably since black has tutors
04:45:51 <War_Wrecker> Zur hits the field and Zur makes you draw your enchantments
04:46:03 <Steven> zur hits the field and gets killed nearly immediately every time
04:46:14 <Steven> and then takes 6 to put out, and gets killed immediately
04:46:35 <Steven> and then takes 8 to get out and catches yet another blast to the face
04:46:50 <Steven> point being zur is a terrible general unless you
04:46:54 <War_Wrecker> There's this thing called counter spells
04:47:28 <Steven> theres this thing called casting him, somebody shoots him, you counter, they counter
04:47:37 <War_Wrecker> Split second counter
04:48:10 <War_Wrecker> not to mention hard casted circles of protection
04:48:28 <Steven> there is exactly 1 split ssecond counter
04:48:45 <War_Wrecker> there's also a storm counter
04:48:52 <War_Wrecker> and counter spells which cost 1
04:49:05 <Steven> yeah, and everyone has the same options
04:49:31 <War_Wrecker> only if they run blue/white
04:50:06 <Steven> there are many ways to kill a creature like zur
04:50:19 <War_Wrecker> I know
04:50:27 <Steven> which take all your counters out of the picture completely
04:50:29 <War_Wrecker> and there's an enchantment that grants protection from all of them
04:50:42 <War_Wrecker> for all of them*
04:50:43 <War_Wrecker> not from
04:50:45 <War_Wrecker> anyhow i've gotta go
04:50:49 <Steven> see ya
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04:51:32 <Steven> i seriously bet he runs blue white and thinks its an unbeatable combo in every format he plays in
04:52:00 <Avatar> man the more I hear about mtg, the less I want to hear
04:52:27 <Avatar> this is a game I tried to learn and actually made some progress in, enough to get addicted to it for short periods
04:52:28 <Steven> i have the same feeling most of the time
04:52:54 <Steven> war wrecker is exactly like a guy named chris i know
04:53:44 <Steven> he comes up with an idea, and when you present a counter point to it pointing out a seriously flaw in it, his answer is counter spells and circle of protections
04:54:03 <Steven> and its like... dude... those dont work consistantly
04:54:29 <Steven> and then it just devolves into you trying to explain the 500 cards that slip past every one of them
04:54:59 <Steven> Also, i love mountain dew and snickers
04:55:25 <Avatar> I love snickers too
04:55:34 <Steven> have you tried the panut butter ones?
04:55:48 <Steven> peanut even
04:56:03 <Avatar> I've tried the magic ones
04:57:31 <Steven> magic ones?
04:57:40 <Steven> i am unfamiliar with those
04:58:52 <Avatar> well there's only one really
04:59:04 <Avatar> you don't know what i'm talking about do you
04:59:09 <Avatar> I have a witch character named Snickers
04:59:16 <Steven> not in the slightest
04:59:26 <Steven> ah, well im not going to eat your witch
04:59:39 <Avatar> I'd appreciate that
05:00:28 <Steven> my brain is not happy with me lately
05:06:05 <Steven> headaches every day
05:07:49 <Avatar> hopefully you're at least sleeping
05:08:15 <Steven> i got an obscene amout yesterday
05:08:29 <Steven> got 4 hr last night
05:13:43 <Steven> woke up with somebodies knee in my back
05:23:08 <Steven> brb, the dogs want t ogo outside
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07:15:03 <Duhz> Lol
07:15:14 <Duhz> My new char is a Tax Collector in Hell.
07:15:22 <Duhz> I'm excited.
07:19:49 <Ballig> which hell
07:24:24 <Duhz> My friends.
07:26:35 <Duhz> It's based off of Alice and Wonderland source material from another game.
07:26:49 <Duhz> But he adds his own fucked up shit.
07:26:57 <Duhz> Puts the fear in everyone.
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07:53:36 <Jumpy142> Morning :)
07:58:00 <Jumpy142> Ahh! Sun is bright!
08:06:38 <Hydrazine> Howdy.
08:06:54 <Duhz> It's like...late afternoon here :D
08:07:56 <Jumpy142> Just gone 8am
08:09:07 <Hydrazine> Late, late afternoon for me too.
08:09:18 <Hydrazine> Its cool having so many different people from different places here.
08:09:21 <Hydrazine> How you guys doin?
08:09:48 <Hydrazine> So they finally charged the douchebag for shooting that kid.
08:09:50 <Jumpy142> Not too bad
08:10:00 <Jumpy142> Who?
08:10:01 <Hydrazine> Zimmerman.
08:10:15 <Hydrazine> Not sure if you'd get news about it. Its really big here because its in my state.
08:10:56 <Hydrazine> Basically, a white neighborhood watch shot and killed a kid.
08:12:14 <Hydrazine> The boy was walking and Zimmerman called the police to say he had someone doing 'suspicious activity'. He claimed the kid attacked him and that he shot in self defense.
08:12:34 <Jumpy142> Yeah, I read it :P Gotta love google
08:13:03 <Hydrazine> But its been causing alot of uproar and protests because its been like 2 weeks and nothing's happened to the shooter until today.
08:13:13 <Jumpy142> The biggest news down under at the moment is that One Direction is over here >.<
08:13:31 <Jumpy142> Oh yeah and they found a body in my schools dam
08:13:48 <Hydrazine> So its causing alot of questions about how this would have been differently if it was a black guy that shot a white kid.
08:14:43 <Duhz> brutal
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09:14:33 <Mort-> Morning
09:14:41 * Hydrazine throws a cookie.
09:14:42 <Hydrazine> Fetch!
09:15:26 * Mort- walks over. Picks the cookie. Washes it under tap water and eats it.
09:15:33 <Mort-> "Thanks"
09:15:43 <Hydrazine> Soggy cookies.
09:15:44 <Hydrazine> Bleh.
09:15:48 <Hydrazine> Whats up, Mort?
09:16:02 <Mort-> Just a quick dip
09:16:05 <Mort-> I'm human
09:16:19 <Mort-> I'm pink. Have limbs. No fur.
09:16:31 <Hydrazine> I think we all assume we're all human. Unless theres specific reason not to.
09:16:50 <Hydrazine> Mostly because I can't think of any other sort of living thing that I know can type in coherent sentences.
09:17:48 <Mort-> Heh.
09:17:57 <Mort-> I can imagine a lemur typing
09:18:21 <Mort-> Heck. My friend had a cat that typed on comp!
09:18:24 <Hydrazine> I'm a human. But I'm brown. Lots of animals have limbs. Even trees have limbs.
09:18:33 <Hydrazine> In sentences?
09:19:08 <Hydrazine> did it type anything besides "On ur computer. Checking ur emailz. lolz"
09:19:12 <Mort-> Uh no. But the word is typed
09:19:37 <Mort-> I don't even think the words made sense
09:20:07 <Mort-> Then she hit the wrong target because her cat was playing with the mouse. Literally
09:20:24 <Hydrazine> If not for sits, why made of warm?
09:20:41 <Mort-> She has 4 cats
09:20:49 <Mort-> She named one after me.
09:20:52 <Hydrazine> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-cat-sits-on-your-keyboard.jpg
09:20:53 <Hydrazine> Mort?
09:20:57 <Mort-> The black and white one
09:21:43 <Mort-> Lol
09:21:44 <Mort-> Yeah
09:26:37 <Mort-> She said he is quirky
09:26:52 <Mort-> Can be really shy around strangers
09:27:01 <Mort-> Sometimes moody
09:30:54 <Mort-> But otherwise pretty sweet
09:31:07 <Hydrazine> Yeah.. I think I do wish pathfinder had more options for a tough guy sort of character to protect others.
09:31:39 <Hydrazine> I mean, antagonize does some stuff, I think theres a couple things in some paladin archetypes.
09:31:45 <Mort-> Block the doorway with your sorry bum :p
09:31:54 <Mort-> You shall not pass!
09:31:55 <Hydrazine> Only works if there IS a doorway.
09:32:10 <Hydrazine> Which makes that approach pretty circumstantial.
09:32:36 <Mort-> Later you can change terrain
09:32:46 <Hydrazine> unless you use a couple wizards to make a wall of fire hallway?
09:32:49 <Hydrazine> How so?
09:32:52 <Mort-> By using walls of whatever you call it
09:33:00 <Mort-> Wall of force. Ice
09:33:10 <Mort-> If i throw enough pits
09:33:20 <Hydrazine> But thats not the tough guy character doing this, see?
09:33:24 <Mort-> People have to be really careful as well
09:33:40 <Hydrazine> Thats my problem. That he either needs a great positional advantage, or someone else to make one.
09:33:42 <Mort-> The tough guy could be an eldritch knight
09:33:47 <Mort-> :d
09:34:00 <Hydrazine> Oh, so paladins and fighters and such should just suck it?
09:34:07 <Mort-> No
09:34:24 <Mort-> "Be a target they can't ignore"
09:34:57 <Hydrazine> how?
09:35:06 <Mort-> Positioning
09:35:12 <Hydrazine> There we go.
09:35:15 <Hydrazine> My point exactly.
09:35:18 <Mort-> If nothing else make them pay to get out of range
09:35:23 <Hydrazine> There aren't many options other than good positioning.
09:35:25 <Hydrazine> How?
09:35:39 <Mort-> Oops.I got tripped trying to move
09:36:32 <Mort-> Then urm. Wasn't i supposed to be next to the wizard? How did i land 10 ft back
09:36:32 <Mort-> (Aka possible reposition)
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09:36:41 <N2H4> Stupid internet.
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09:37:10 <Mort-> Ring of friends
09:37:23 <Mort-> I think its a bit like sharing your life
09:38:36 <N2H4> So if everyone else is close enough that he can't withdraw out.. he can just attack the other guys and ignore toughguy.
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09:40:14 <Mort-> Hm
09:50:02 <N2H4> See?
09:51:39 * Mort- sees and is sad
09:51:42 <N2H4> 4E actually has some pretty interesting stuff along this way.
09:52:10 <N2H4> Like, the ability to effectively reposition with an attack, position him where YOU want.
09:53:32 <Mort-> Pallies have some stuff
09:53:41 <Mort-> To compel people to hit them
09:54:34 <Mort-> Are there some combat feats to take in place of an ally?
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09:56:51 <Mort-> www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/k/knight-s-calling
10:02:31 <N2H4> Or to inflict attack penalties on someone to attack anyone besides you.
10:03:18 <N2H4> Hm.
10:03:21 <N2H4> Interesting.
10:03:25 <N2H4> But what about fighters?
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10:04:45 <Duhz> maaaan
10:04:52 <N2H4> duuuuuuude
10:04:55 <N2H4> Whats mine say?
10:04:58 N2H4 is now known as Hydrazin
10:05:00 <Duhz> duuuuude
10:05:00 Hydrazin is now known as Hydrazine
10:05:02 <Duhz> what's mine say?
10:05:19 <Mort-> Looking at combat feats
10:05:23 <Duhz> Also, I can't play lee sin to save my life.
10:05:31 <Duhz> but I so want to play him in pathfinder
10:05:43 <Duhz> YA-KOOOO-WA
10:05:43 <Hydrazine> rofl.
10:05:50 <Hydrazine> I can't play Lee either.
10:05:59 <Mort-> Alternatively use corrugon smash and throw shakens out
10:06:00 <Hydrazine> Hes like the one person tash says I'm banned from.
10:06:04 <Duhz> I used to do pretty awesome with him.
10:06:04 <Mort-> Left right centre
10:06:12 <Hydrazine> She'll trust me to feed less with champs I've never even played, than with lee sin.
10:06:21 <Hydrazine> How would you roll lee sin in PFS?
10:06:42 <Hydrazine> I'm thinking martial artist archetype, or a master of many styles, focused on either tiger or panther.
10:07:43 <Mort-> Jfk
10:07:44 <Mort-> Lol
10:07:50 <Duhz> Umm
10:07:51 <Duhz> well
10:07:52 <Hydrazine> Pin down seems really good, Mort, but it requires level 11.
10:07:55 <Duhz> That would be the lore
10:08:00 <Duhz> But convert the feel man
10:08:03 <Mort-> A cheap version
10:08:06 <Mort-> Is step up
10:08:41 <Hydrazine> step up doesn't really prevent them from moving. it just lets you follow if they 5ft.
10:09:07 <Hydrazine> so if he just 5fts towards all the squishies and you follow him.. so what?
10:09:16 <Mort-> Pin down you will aoo trip?
10:09:47 <Hydrazine> pin down pretty much includes stand still.
10:09:54 <Hydrazine> the aoo prevents movement.
10:11:35 <Hydrazine> But level 11 is a long time to get some useful enemy control.
10:11:51 <Avatar> too long
10:11:56 <Mort-> I'm reading
10:11:59 <Mort-> Agree
10:12:09 <Mort-> Its my life. I don't like monsters :(
10:12:10 <Hydrazine> Hey Avatar
10:12:19 <Mort-> Don't let them get me :(
10:12:22 <Hydrazine> Would you rule that step up would work with a reach weapon?
10:12:45 <Hydrazine> I ask because the wording includes the caveat that you end your immediate 5ft step adjacent to the guy your following.
10:13:22 <Hydrazine> And cite precedence of a scenario including tactics of a reach weapon user utilizing stand still, which also includes the adjacent term.
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10:15:39 <mortswishytail> Oh
10:15:46 <mortswishytail> I have tail
10:16:18 <Hydrazine> thats nice.
10:16:47 <Avatar> umm
10:17:06 <Avatar> have the forums said anything about it
10:17:14 <Hydrazine> Haven't really looked yet.
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10:20:56 <Mort-> I have no tail
10:21:07 <Mort-> How about friendly switch
10:21:28 <Avatar> I think I'd rule you have to be adjacent
10:21:34 <Avatar> actually adjacent
10:22:38 <Hydrazine> But not for stand still?
10:23:58 <Avatar> same with stand still
10:24:47 <Mort-> I'm trying to read feats .
10:25:11 <Hydrazine> But theres a scenario with an enemy that specifically uses reach+stand still as his tactics.
10:25:35 <Hydrazine> To cut you off 10ft away from him and just deliver murder while laughing his way to the bank.
10:30:13 <Hydrazine> I think it was Shadows Last Stand.
10:30:17 <Hydrazine> Do you remember, Mort?
10:30:48 <Avatar> I remember it, I'm not sure if it was run right
10:30:58 <Avatar> like i'm assuming it wasn't
10:31:16 <Hydrazine> I did ask about it after, and got told it seemed correct.
10:31:40 <Hydrazine> I don't have the scenario. Would you be willing to share with me the official text on his tactics?
10:31:56 <Avatar> I don't have it either
10:32:15 <Avatar> why would I :P
10:32:20 <Hydrazine> I would say that its pretty silly for him to have both feats if its not meant to work this way.
10:32:44 <Avatar> what's the other feat
10:32:53 <Hydrazine> er. stand still and reach weapon, rather.
10:33:13 <Hydrazine> If he can't use stand still at reach, and can't attack adjacent, then its not really doing anything. Agree?
10:33:13 <Mort-> Yes
10:33:33 <Mort-> He used his reach to push us back
10:33:42 <Avatar> yeah but that's the problem with using a reach weapon with that feat
10:33:46 <Hydrazine> no, he used it to keep us away.
10:34:05 <Avatar> which might have been a broken use of it
10:34:13 <Hydrazine> If these are problems with it, why is there a paizo scenario where it seems intended to work this way?
10:35:04 <Mort-> It should be threatened squares
10:35:23 <Mort-> If it was to be used that www
10:35:31 <Mort-> Way
10:38:36 <Mort-> paizo.com/forums/dmtz2ngv?Stand-still-with-a-reach-weapon#0
10:38:39 <Mort-> Bleh
10:38:45 <Mort-> No consensus
10:40:58 <Mort-> What
10:41:04 <Mort-> I'm here you nub!
10:41:09 <Avatar> wrong one
10:41:25 <Avatar> I think it's meant to be adjacent only
10:41:26 <Hydrazine> Theres one for step up too.
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10:41:50 <Hydrazine> Then its a very badly designed scenario encounter.
10:42:02 <Avatar> there might be more to it than we know
10:42:12 <Avatar> without being able to look at the encounter
10:42:23 <Hydrazine> For some context.
10:42:49 <Hydrazine> I think you were there for that.
10:42:57 <Hydrazine> Didn't snickers sleep the guy and thats how we won?
10:43:21 <Avatar> yeah
10:43:24 <Mort-> Yes or we would all be dead.
10:43:26 <Avatar> I was definitely there
10:43:29 <Mort-> Or maybe not me.
10:43:30 <Avatar> I remember it
10:43:37 <Hydrazine> But what I'm trying to get at, is that if he wasn't meant to use his reach weapon and stand still like he did, it would have been a stupidly easy encounter.
10:43:37 <Mort-> But i can't kill anyone
10:43:40 <Avatar> mort wouldnt' die
10:43:41 <Avatar> !
10:43:44 <Mort-> Can always run
10:43:57 * Mort- flys off
10:44:01 <Avatar> yeah well stupidly easy encounters aren't unheard of in PFS
10:45:10 <Hydrazine> I think I would feel that is was less satisfying of a game, if the encounter was following the rules as we are discussing them, and the fight was alot easier.
10:46:08 <Mort-> Wow. Wall of text. Simple language please?
10:47:15 <Hydrazine> I'd be disappointed if it was a stupid easy fight, and not one that almost wrecked us.
10:47:16 <Avatar> I agree with you, honestly
10:51:37 <Hydrazine> Thank you.
10:51:41 * Mort- feels midly guilty about abusing hold person
10:52:07 <Hydrazine> Pssh.
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10:52:49 <mortswishytail> Oh
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10:53:08 <Mort-> Back
10:53:39 <Mort-> I think they should give an official ruling on that
10:53:51 <Avatar> mark those threads as FAQ candidates
10:53:56 <Mort-> And i can't find anything that lets you take in place of your ally
10:54:13 <Mort-> Only divine spells.
10:54:23 <Mort-> Ring of friends
10:55:42 <Mort-> I've been researching
10:58:29 <Mort-> Anyway what else. Oh sometimes scenarios
10:58:44 <Mort-> Have weird caeveats
10:59:14 <Mort-> His stand still feat might have included threatened spaces because he is a monster
11:11:38 <Hydrazine> No
11:11:49 <Hydrazine> He had classes like a PC. He was a level 6 fighter.
11:13:19 <Mort-> Monsters sometimes function differently...
11:17:50 <Hydrazine> ...Why?
11:21:20 <Mort-> Because they are big scawy monsters
11:21:36 <Mort-> Can you grab a person and constrict him,g
11:21:40 <Mort-> No you can't.
11:21:56 <Mort-> Can you howl and make everyone run away from you?
11:22:00 <Mort-> No you can't.
11:22:02 <Hydrazine> hes not using constrict. Or grab.
11:22:05 <Hydrazine> Hes using stand still.
11:22:10 <Hydrazine> Just like a player fighter can.
11:22:24 <Hydrazine> I'm saying its not one of the special monster abilities. Just a feat.
11:22:27 <Mort-> On a more serious note. Sometimes under their specific feats.
11:22:34 <Mort-> They have added stuff to it
11:22:52 <Mort-> Artistic liscence
11:23:09 <Mort-> Like avatar was commenting about that magur
11:23:12 <Mort-> Magus
11:23:17 <Hydrazine> what about it?
11:23:27 <Mort-> I have a feeling the block might have been written like this
11:24:09 <Mort-> If she uses spell strike and shocking ray. On her first round. On successful hit she will crit.
11:24:18 <Mort-> Like that.
11:24:25 <Mort-> Or close.
11:24:54 <Hydrazine> hm.
11:24:56 <Hydrazine> Why?
11:24:56 <Mort-> I don't believe she was that lucky to naturally crit on buck right on the first round
11:25:14 <Hydrazine> Because that never happens?
11:25:23 <Mort-> Monster blocks are sometimes written like that to give more cinematics
11:25:32 <Mort-> Wouldn't put it past the writer
11:26:26 <Mort-> How exactly are you going to be so reliable as to one shot someone right on the first round?
11:26:31 <Mort-> I haven't done that yet.
11:26:37 <Mort-> Your the guilty one!
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11:27:03 <Hydrazine> of?
11:27:53 <Mort-> One shotting things on crits!
11:27:58 <Mort-> And how often do you do it
11:28:25 <Hydrazine> um.
11:28:27 <Hydrazine> when I crit?
11:28:39 <Mort-> How often do you crit
11:28:57 <Mort-> From what i get from avatar. She jumped aboard ship
11:29:09 <Mort-> And just crit the crap out of him
11:29:27 <Mort-> I say its artistic Liscence on the writers part
11:29:29 <Hydrazine> I don't crit that much.
11:29:33 <Hydrazine> usually once a game, maybe 2.
11:29:39 <Mort-> See?
11:29:45 <Mort-> A very lucky magus?
11:30:03 <Mort-> Most normal magi don't even hit the broad side of the barn
11:30:37 <Mort-> And here we hear that she jumped on board. Her blade flaming. And laid him down on the floor with a single mighty blow
11:30:47 <Mort-> Wow. It has a nice ring to it doesn't it.
11:30:51 <Hydrazine> eh.
11:30:54 <Hydrazine> Could be luck.
11:31:01 <Hydrazine> crits 18-20 probably too.
11:31:29 * Mort- doesn't believe in luck
11:31:45 <Mort-> I've had several crits. And failed to confirm
11:32:00 <Hydrazine> I've had both.
11:32:03 <Hydrazine> dice are dice.
11:33:05 <Mort-> Monsters are monsters.
11:33:45 <Mort-> Rule number 1: magi can't hit the broad side of the barn. So she should have missed more often then not ^^
11:34:04 <Avatar> I think I might go improved critial at 8th and critical focus from there on
11:34:17 <Hydrazine> Don't be silly, Mort. Just because you are unlucky doesn't mean everyone is.
11:34:21 <Avatar> I can't stop drooling all over the prospect of critting on 19s with my gun
11:34:23 * Mort- laughs at avatar
11:34:24 <Hydrazine> It could easily just be that they rolled a crit.
11:34:30 <Mort-> Ok
11:34:36 <Avatar> x4 is just too good
11:34:46 <Mort-> Did the gm roll in front of you for qfp2?
11:34:54 <Avatar> GMs never roll in front of you
11:35:06 <Mort-> Point is moot
11:35:09 <Mort-> Then
11:35:12 <Mort-> :d
11:35:17 <Avatar> I mean really players never roll in front of you unless you ask to see it or you go to see it
11:35:32 <Mort-> Geezus
11:35:58 <Hydrazine> Eh.
11:36:21 <Avatar> it's never really a case of I'm looking to see if they're cheating
11:36:44 <Hydrazine> When I was playing in person, the convention was to roll so atleast one other person has a view on it.
11:37:06 <Avatar> nobody cheats in our crew
11:37:18 <Avatar> like, nobody wants to cheat
11:37:31 <Avatar> we'd rather fail and have it be fair
11:37:34 * Mort- wonders if avatar believes in the good side of human nature too much
11:37:40 <Mort-> But i would roll in front of everyone
11:37:49 <Avatar> there are people there who make open rulings to fuck themselves over
11:37:58 * Mort- feels a lawful streak coming on
11:38:18 <Avatar> sometimes it seems like they really want to fail
11:38:30 <Avatar> like the GM has to convince them they succeed
11:38:53 <Avatar> playing fair is a really big thing
11:39:11 <Avatar> I don't mean just on rolls, but on rules
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11:41:36 <Mort-> Heh
11:41:59 <Hydrazine> could you give an example, avatar? I don't think I get it.
11:42:41 <Avatar> don't know if I can remember a specific example
11:44:46 <Mort-> From the way Steven has been putting it
11:45:28 <Mort-> Some people would be willing to cheat all right
11:45:49 <Hydrazine> DMs even.
11:46:12 <Hydrazine> It sounds like you're saying the DM is telling people they succeed even when the dice say failure.
11:46:25 <Avatar> no not with dice rolls
11:46:30 <Avatar> more with rules or rulings
11:46:38 <Mort-> Now if the writer specifically wrote in the book. Which i would believe. That it would happen.
11:46:40 <Hydrazine> Huh?
11:47:00 <Avatar> like if this is going to happen and this is the cirucmstance, should he really be able to do that?
11:47:13 <Avatar> and the player will go no because this is happening and that's happening and I've got this thing
11:47:18 <Avatar> so no I shouldn't be able to
11:47:31 <Avatar> and the GM will be saying but it seems like you should because blah blah blah
11:48:06 <Avatar> the bias is clearly removed, they're just triyng to make sense of it
11:50:04 <Mort-> Your talking about rulings i take it?
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11:50:22 <Mort-> And you believe in human nature enough that no one would fudge dice up?
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11:54:30 <Avatar> if it seems too good to be true, anyone can lean over and look
11:55:09 <Avatar> you can't do that with the GM, but I've never seen a GM make what seem to be unfair rolls
11:55:26 <Avatar> in person, at least, miss 6 20's in a single encounter
11:55:28 <Hydrazine> yeah, i think the general behavior was that even if you throw somewhere others can't see it, you keep your hands away until you move on, incase anyone wants to look.
11:55:47 <Avatar> you do have to roll it on the table
11:55:48 <Hydrazine> Steven keeps saying he sees a DM fudge rolls to kill people.
11:55:51 <Avatar> if it falls off, you roll it again
11:56:33 <Avatar> people are usuaully too busy working out a calcuation to roll again quickly
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11:58:52 <Avatar> man, this witch is so weird
11:58:59 <Avatar> I'm trying to look for a second 4th level spell
11:59:11 <Avatar> and it has what looks like a very decent spell shown as red (worst; don't take this)
11:59:21 <Hydrazine> huh.
11:59:22 <Hydrazine> like?
11:59:35 <Avatar> Cape of Wasps *
11:59:36 <Avatar> Has some defensive capabilities and utility uses. Make the enemies hesitant to engage you in melee or shoot you with a ranged weapon, also protects against sneak attacks. Slightly redundant with vomit swarm.
11:59:55 <MekkisScreen> isn't that from CEoD?
12:00:03 <Avatar> what is CEoD
12:00:11 <MekkisScreen> Cheliax: Empire of Devils
12:00:15 <Avatar> it's from UM
12:01:56 <Avatar> I can take enervation, but I really reckon it is too stupid for GMs to work out new stats for everything
12:04:37 <Avatar> I never noticed phantasmal killer could be turned on you
12:04:50 <Mort-> Oh it can
12:04:53 <Mort-> Think about it
12:05:00 <Avatar> yeah, harsh
12:05:05 <Mort-> I am not fond of that spell btw
12:05:23 <Mort-> Spoils the fun.
12:05:55 <Mort-> Either you don't do anything(will probably happen because fort is a high save)
12:06:22 <Mort-> Or you kill the monster and get the fighter complaining he wanted something to hit
12:07:52 <Avatar> I've got almost no spells that offer the victim reflex saves
12:07:59 <Avatar> it's really only fort and will saves
12:08:33 <Mort-> Fort is a high save
12:08:49 <Avatar> what
12:08:55 <Mort-> I also personally think so is reflex. But ill try a reflex spell
12:09:01 <Avatar> what do you mean fort is a high save
12:09:04 <Mort-> Just to see how it works out
12:09:14 <Mort-> Most monsters have high fort saves
12:09:16 <Avatar> fort isn't universally high
12:09:16 <Mort-> Low will.
12:09:28 <Avatar> don't think that's true
12:09:29 <Mort-> Mostly their highest save
12:09:32 <Mort-> Ok
12:09:36 <Avatar> I don't*
12:09:38 <Mort-> Go get me some monsters
12:09:54 <Avatar> look I'm not going to metagame scenarios to check it
12:09:55 <Mort-> And find me a couple with high will saves
12:10:13 <Mort-> Just read the beastary
12:10:18 <Avatar> I'm looking to cover my bases
12:10:37 <Avatar> wizards can flaming spheres and fireballs that force reflex saves, I get none of those
12:10:41 <Mort-> That's why till now I've been hitting their will saves
12:10:45 <Avatar> lightning bolt seems to be the only exception
12:10:54 <Mort-> I'm not throwing a flaming sphere
12:11:10 <Mort-> More like an aqueous orb
12:11:46 <Mort-> Generally the thing about monster bashing
12:11:58 <Avatar> I could always just take neutralize poison
12:12:04 <Avatar> poison sucks pretty hardcore
12:12:05 <Mort-> If it looks like a big brute with no brains. It probably is
12:12:14 <Mort-> Hit will save.
12:12:35 <Mort-> Sneaky sorts generally have not too good will
12:12:39 <Avatar> is dimension door + neutralise poison a bad combo to level up with when you have no other spells of that level
12:13:04 <Mort-> Hm
12:13:07 <Mort-> Maybe
12:13:39 <Mort-> If that guy is a divine caster. Fk his reflex saves
12:13:44 <Avatar> charm monster could probably end up some battles prematurely
12:13:50 <Mort-> Yeah
12:14:11 <Hydrazine> like your sleep?
12:14:27 <Mort-> Later some monsters are immune to sleep
12:14:31 <Avatar> well
12:14:36 <Avatar> you could cast it on a leader maybe
12:14:50 <Avatar> sleep is vulnerable to the bad guys waking up whoever's sleeping
12:16:04 <Mort-> Sleep is a matter of timing and delays
12:16:08 <Mort-> Sleep. Cdg
12:16:20 <Mort-> Bb monster!
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12:23:33 <Avatar> what is cdg
12:25:35 <Mort-> Coup de grace
12:26:25 <Avatar> you want to remember that coup de grace is a full round action
12:27:28 <Mort-> Take out a monster permanently?
12:27:30 <Mort-> Sure!
12:27:43 <Mort-> I'm sure if hydra goes witch
12:27:48 <Mort-> Both of us will find a way
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12:35:20 <Avatar> you would think a holy symbol could be a suitable masterwork tool for UMD checks made to emulate a cleric
12:36:35 <Mort-> Can you carry a holy symbol
12:36:50 <Mort-> Wear cleric vestments over your armor
12:36:57 <Mort-> And pretend to be a cleric?
12:37:03 <Avatar> and do what
12:37:14 <Mort-> So monsters will come and get you
12:37:20 <Mort-> Or wear wizard robes
12:37:24 <Avatar> probably
12:37:26 <Mort-> Over your chain shirt
12:37:28 <Avatar> you might need bluff checks
12:37:41 <Mort-> I fail very badly ^^
12:37:54 <Mort-> Rather umd disguise self
12:37:58 <Mort-> But was a fun thought
12:38:18 <Mort-> The fun part is when we dress jerus like a wizard
12:38:23 <Mort-> Haha!
12:38:40 <Avatar> I keep forgetting there is a disguise skill
12:42:58 <Hydrazine> but Jerus has a big hammer.
12:43:29 <Hydrazine> Did you see my picture for how I imagine the hammer?
12:44:11 <Avatar> what picture
12:44:19 <Hydrazine> http://imgur.com/GcyEM
12:45:28 <Hydrazine> I know its... inaccurate, because his has a spike on top and on back, and a pronged face, but thats what sticks in my head.
12:45:58 <Mort-> Lol so anime
12:46:11 <Mort-> And the scimitar is a give away
12:46:31 <Hydrazine> Its from an Exalted book, actually.
12:46:34 <Mort-> But easier to pass khaz as a wizard
12:46:35 <Hydrazine> Which is kind of anime.
12:46:39 <Mort-> I thought so
12:46:49 <Avatar> I appreciate creativity but I think that one MIGHT be going a bit far
12:46:53 <Mort-> Since he can even cast stuff like one. To a limited extent
12:47:11 <Avatar> that looks like it has a 30ft reach when you're medium
12:47:14 <Hydrazine> I'm not saying thats how it is, Avatar. Thats jist how I think of it.
12:47:29 <Hydrazine> I know its crazy.
12:48:40 <Hydrazine> Hm. I dont think it looks like its got a 30ft reach, but it does look like its got a 10d6 damage roll.
12:48:55 <Mort-> For the cool factor i say lets go!
12:55:38 <Hydrazine> And a minimum strength score.
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12:57:06 <Hydrazine> Howdy.
12:57:20 <Quince> Hi. Coonsan is new. He needs an acct and stuff
12:57:31 <Hydrazine> You guys bringing all your friends huh?
12:57:32 <Hydrazine> Cool.
12:57:33 <Coonsan> Hello
12:57:36 <Quince> yeah
12:57:38 <Quince> :)
12:57:42 <Hydrazine> what is it, www.pfsrpg.com.au I think?
12:58:18 <Hydrazine> no. www.pfrpg.com.au
12:58:46 <Quince> he needs someone to set up his accnt since theres no place to just sign up
12:59:43 <Hydrazine> I don't got the power.
13:00:02 <Quince> <3
13:00:10 <Hydrazine> Sorry.
13:00:16 <Hydrazine> Anyway, welcome aboard.
13:00:25 <Coonsan> Thanks. Been hearing good things.
13:00:27 <Quince> Hes a piece of shit. DOnt show him kindness though.
13:00:32 <Hydrazine> Take it your a friend of Quince and Duhz?
13:00:39 <Hydrazine> He can't be as bad as Space.
13:00:46 <Coonsan> Yea
13:01:08 <Hydrazine> You familiar with Pathfinder?
13:01:13 <Coonsan> Yup
13:01:42 <Coonsan> Been playing PF since....when Quince, 6 months? a year?
13:01:58 <Hydrazine> Ever play Society?
13:02:01 <Avatar> do you have a character Coonsan?
13:02:08 <Quince> he doesnt yet
13:02:31 <Avatar> create a character and we'll set you up with an account
13:02:42 <Avatar> I take it you know the drill
13:02:59 <Coonsan> yea, i have to see the restrictions and such
13:03:06 <Coonsan> So what, you make one persistent character?
13:03:38 <Mort-> Well your lucky
13:03:39 <Avatar> yeah
13:03:43 <Mort-> Today I'm human
13:03:45 <Avatar> you need the PFS guide
13:03:56 <Mort-> So you don't have to deal with my quirks
13:04:02 <Coonsan> Yea, I just downloaded that.
13:04:23 <Mort-> You get to keep all your cookies
13:04:28 <Avatar> have you got a name for your characte
13:04:29 <Avatar> r
13:04:32 <Mort-> Don't get tumbled over
13:04:49 <Coonsan> ummmm
13:04:59 <Coonsan> Not sure yet. If it's one persistent character, I might use Coonsan
13:05:26 <Mort-> Do not name your character after youred
13:05:27 <Mort-> Yourself
13:05:34 <Mort-> Bad things happen
13:05:39 <Avatar> what do you mean by persistent character
13:06:13 <Coonsan> So you have one character that plays in all the campaigns? Or..?
13:06:32 <Avatar> it's not really like that
13:06:37 <Mort-> You can roll as many characters as you like
13:06:41 <Avatar> games only run for one session
13:06:43 <Mort-> Each one is an adventure
13:06:57 <Avatar> you can change which character you use in each scenario you play
13:07:05 <Avatar> but ideally you will want to get one levelled up
13:07:28 <Avatar> almost everyone has more than one character
13:08:07 <Coonsan> ah, ok
13:08:54 <Mort-> And to name your character as yourself is a bad idea
13:08:59 <Mort-> Everyone tells me that
13:09:11 <Avatar> yes
13:09:25 <Avatar> your character isn't you
13:09:47 <Mort-> Well what's done is done
13:10:00 <Mort-> And i was way noob back then
13:10:01 <Coonsan> Gotcha. Alright, duhz just explained it poorly then
13:10:47 <Coonsan> Which is nothing new, I suppose
13:10:51 <Mort-> As i said. Find enough people and we can run fs during week days
13:10:53 <Hydrazine> Lol.
13:11:03 <Coonsan> But this character isn't the one i would use for the goblin campaign?
13:11:28 <Mort-> It will give me entertainment laughing at your antics while I'm at work
13:11:32 <Mort-> If nothing else
13:11:36 <Avatar> it's not a campaign, it's a "scenario"
13:11:42 <Avatar> the goblin scenario is an exception
13:11:50 <Mort-> And the scenario being what it is
13:11:57 <Mort-> You'll be a goblin.
13:12:01 <Avatar> you'll be given a character for that one
13:12:10 <Avatar> and it won't have any effect on your real character except to give you credit
13:12:26 <Mort-> Now that's one scenario that you are actually allowed to be a monster
13:12:31 <Mort-> So savour it
13:12:33 <Coonsan> Ah, ok, I see
13:12:36 <Mort-> Do silly things!
13:12:53 <Mort-> Pf scenarios are generally quite serious stuff
13:13:14 <Mort-> Most adventurers lack a sense of humor me thinks
13:13:15 <Avatar> no spoilers about the scenario mort
13:13:16 <Avatar> !
13:13:32 <Mort-> The title is self explainatory
13:13:38 <Mort-> We be goblins
13:13:51 <Avatar> that's easy to say when you've played it
13:14:16 <Mort-> Shades of ice - i started packing cold weather gear
13:14:20 <Mort-> ^^
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13:17:18 <Avatar> Coonsan: let me know that character name as soon as you have it
13:18:13 <Duhz> by the way
13:18:19 <Duhz> I explained it perfectly
13:18:24 <Duhz> uou just don't pay attention
13:18:38 <Duhz> -_-
13:18:39 <Coonsan> No, you're a piece of shit. Piece of shit.
13:18:43 <Duhz> Fuck you
13:19:01 <Duhz> I'll find you and...
13:19:05 <Coonsan> Gimme a moment to think of a name
13:19:29 <Duhz> what type of char are you making?
13:19:49 <Coonsan> Dunno
13:19:51 <Coonsan> What'd you make?
13:20:00 <Duhz> what do you think?
13:20:12 <Duhz> Dwarven Fighter
13:20:17 <Coonsan> oh, right.
13:20:44 <Coonsan> what'd Quince make
13:20:48 <Duhz> ranger
13:20:51 <Duhz> fights undead
13:21:06 <Duhz> hates people played by coons
13:21:40 <Duhz> I'd say do something with magic man
13:21:43 <Duhz> You never do that
13:21:54 <Coonsan> I was thinking Alchemist
13:22:01 <Thelen> guys i thought of a new game for PFS!
13:22:05 <Duhz> They are rather awesome
13:22:08 <Thelen> you know how you have chase
13:22:11 <Thelen> now you can have soccer!
13:22:11 <Coonsan> But i might wanna save that for one of our campaigns
13:22:21 <Duhz> Haha well maybe
13:23:09 <Coonsan> I could go one of the other pathfinder new classes
13:23:15 <Coonsan> like oracle or witch or something
13:23:31 <Coonsan> I know! I'll go cavalier!!...derp derp...!!
13:23:36 <Duhz> Hahah
13:23:47 <Duhz> cavaliers are cool as shit man
13:23:50 <Duhz> look em up
13:24:29 <Duhz> Also this channel is getting takin' over.
13:24:40 <Duhz> They're gonna kick us out on principle
13:24:53 <Mort-> Someone really ought to run a game
13:25:02 * Mort- has an amused look on her face
13:25:07 <Duhz> oh noes
13:25:36 <Mort-> I'm harmless. I really am.
13:25:47 <Duhz> uh huh
13:27:25 <Coonsan> Di'rel. I think that'll be my name
13:27:34 <Duhz> Also I'm out. We can throw together stuff tomorrow coons if you really want to get into it
13:28:08 <Mort-> Tomorrow there is a game on
13:28:12 <Duhz> Or maybe you're already done, hell i dunno
13:28:26 <Duhz> Yup
13:28:33 <Duhz> that's the point!
13:28:56 <Coonsan> Yea, I need to get an account made so I can sign up for the Goblin campaign
13:29:26 <Duhz> ballig I thought can help
13:29:38 <Duhz> But avatar is usually good about everything
13:29:51 <Duhz> and can give you some insta-help
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13:31:50 <Thelen> hmmmm
13:32:18 <Avatar> Di'rel is added on your account
13:32:30 <Avatar> upload your sheet while you create it and when you're done creating it
13:32:42 <Avatar> after you've logged into the account you'll get some invites sent to you
13:32:44 <Coonsan> Ok. What's the login information for the site then?
13:32:51 <Avatar> I've pm'd them to you
13:33:05 <Avatar> you'll want to get a proper IRC client
13:33:11 <Avatar> www.mirc.com/get.html
13:33:41 <Coonsan> Alright, thank you.
13:35:02 <Coonsan> So, big noob question, but how do I get this server info in an external irc program
13:36:12 <Hydrazine> Um. au.austnet.org
13:36:19 <Avatar> use irc.austnet.org as your server
13:36:20 <Hydrazine> I think is the server to connect to.
13:36:28 <Hydrazine> And /join #D&D
13:36:34 <Avatar> there's US, CA and SG servers aside from the AU one
13:36:48 <Avatar> you can either type /server irc.austnet.org
13:36:53 <Avatar> or go into the options of the client and set it up there
13:37:19 <Avatar> options > servers > add
13:41:08 <Coonsan> Hmm alright. Having some trouble with it, but I'm a bit sleepy and not thinking straight. May not get everything sorted to hop on the goblin campaign tomorrow, but I will hop on the next. No need to rush it. Thank you for your help.
13:42:42 <Avatar> ah
13:42:49 <Avatar> you need to available for about 6 hours for a game
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13:43:02 <Avatar> it's 1.42pm here, and tomorrow's game starts at 12pm
13:43:15 <Mort-> Sigh
13:43:29 <Avatar> make sure you can run the course of the game if you're playing
13:44:01 <Avatar> so a 10pm start your time I think, until 4am
13:44:27 <Avatar> we be goblins tends to run quicker than most, but if you need to be here for longer because the game isn't over, you need to be here
13:44:41 <Mort-> Quicker?
13:44:48 <Mort-> You sure? :p
13:44:52 <Avatar> yeah it's considered a short module
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13:45:08 <Mort-> Not if your rping your Ass off
13:45:12 <Avatar> that's why you get less prestige out of it
13:45:21 <Mort-> And doing every single silly thing in sight :d
13:47:41 <Hydrazine> So what sort of character you making, Coon?
13:51:57 <Thelen> ah whaa
13:52:04 <Thelen> so we really doing goblins? :(
13:52:24 * Mort- doesn't mind being a goblin again
13:52:29 <Mort-> Even if no credits
13:52:38 <Mort-> Ill show you how to be a good one!
13:52:39 <Thelen> i don't either but wanna do my 30AC :D
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13:56:17 <Avatar> you get credit for replaying we be goblins now
13:56:32 <Avatar> did you guys plan to play for no credit
13:56:32 <Thelen> meh
13:57:09 <Avatar> you just have to apply it to a level 1 character (or you can do it to a level 2 character if you haven't done so before)
13:57:25 <Thelen> yea
13:57:33 <Thelen> i think firon is close to lvl 3 now
13:57:44 <Thelen> did 1 or 2 at con
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13:57:53 <Hydrazine> handily enough i have a level 1 laying around
13:57:55 <Thelen> then 2 last
13:57:58 <Thelen> then 2 online i think
13:58:12 <Avatar> what's 2 last
13:58:17 <Thelen> arcananonon
13:58:35 <Avatar> arcanananaconon
13:59:47 <Mort-> I have 2 level 1s around
13:59:56 <Mort-> Lets rock goblin world!
14:00:13 <Mort-> I wish i could give to khaz
14:00:25 <Mort-> But i gave to mort when she was 2
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14:01:55 <Mort-> If i could level khaz to 3 :(
14:02:09 <Mort-> One scenario more!
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14:07:57 <Mort-> Thelen.
14:08:05 <Mort-> How do you feel playiwg a wizard
14:08:35 <Thelen> meh
14:08:40 <Thelen> i find them under powered and boring
14:08:49 <Mort-> Lol
14:09:03 <Mort-> You like to swing stuff?
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14:09:13 <Mort-> What kind of spell line up you have
14:09:16 <Thelen> well i like to do things
14:09:19 <Thelen> dunno, normal
14:09:21 <Thelen> magic missile etc
14:10:18 <Mort-> Magic missile never gets old
14:10:26 <Thelen> does no damage
14:10:28 <Mort-> But besides that?
14:10:44 <Mort-> 1d4+1
14:10:59 <Mort-> You get more missiles as you level
14:11:15 <Hydrazine> Hey, don't knock it.
14:11:25 <Hydrazine> We took out the big guy in a difficult encounter with magic missile
14:11:27 <Hydrazine> atleast once.
14:11:27 <Mort-> Knock what?
14:11:38 <Hydrazine> When all the melee were failing ALL their attack rolls.
14:11:56 <Mort-> When? :p
14:12:03 <Mort-> Ok there was the ghoul.
14:12:07 <Hydrazine> the cavalier.
14:12:31 <Mort-> Oh yes he had good ac
14:13:19 <Mort-> Actually if i were to do it again i might have sprayed him and his horse
14:13:20 <Mort-> Maybe
14:13:28 <Thelen> pfff
14:13:31 <Thelen> 1d4/6
14:13:48 <Mort-> He would save probably.his horse probably would not
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14:14:55 <Hydrazine> lol.
14:14:58 <Hydrazine> man, those blinded horses.
14:15:01 <Hydrazine> That was hilarious.
14:15:10 <mortswishytail> Yes
14:15:24 <mortswishytail> Can't get the riders?
14:15:32 <mortswishytail> Get their mounts
14:16:01 <Hydrazine> And one blind guy on a fine horse, and one seeing guy on a blind horse.
14:16:02 <Hydrazine> lol.
14:17:38 <mortswishytail> The dust can save every round though
14:17:47 <mortswishytail> So its just buying time
14:19:55 <Hydrazine> funny how I was all lined up to get charged and noone did it.
14:21:12 <mortswishytail> Can you force a blind horse to charge?
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14:21:21 <Hydrazine> How?
14:21:42 <Hydrazine> i don't think so.
14:21:51 <mortswishytail> The creature cannot see. It takes a –2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a –4 penalty on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks and on opposed Perception skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as reading and Perception checks based on sight) automatically fail. All opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) against the blinded character. Blind
14:22:03 <mortswishytail> Make acro check?
14:22:26 <mortswishytail> The horse :p
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14:25:45 <Hydrazine> Don't think so, half speed yeah?
14:25:59 <MekkisScreen> wow
14:26:31 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: yes
14:26:43 <MekkisScreen> DC25 handle animal to push the horse
14:26:49 <Mort-> Oh good luck
14:26:54 <MekkisScreen> horse makes acrobatics check to charge
14:27:09 <MekkisScreen> I'd allow the rider to make a ride check to aid the horse
14:27:13 <Mort-> I guess a desperate cavalier could
14:27:51 <MekkisScreen> what level is Mort?
14:29:49 <MekkisScreen> !define global internet ethics: See RFC 1087, at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1087.txt
14:29:50 <diebot> MekkisScreen, See RFC 1087, at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1087.txt defined as ??internet ethics
14:35:21 <Mort-> If you don't have line of sight to the opponent at the start of your turn, you can't charge that opponent.
14:35:34 <Mort-> So how does the horse charge?
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14:45:08 <Hydrazine> I don't think actual vision is required.
14:46:23 <Hydrazine> could a blind creature with tremorsense charge?
14:47:32 <Mort-> Tremor sense usually has a range
14:47:45 <Hydrazine> and if they're in it?
14:48:08 <Mort-> Id say why not
14:55:27 <Hydrazine> exactly.
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15:07:11 <Mort-> Urk
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15:44:47 <forevernade_> hihi
15:45:02 <Mort-> Hello
15:45:15 * Mort- holds out hand to shake
15:45:35 <Mort-> I'm trying to remember I'm human
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16:11:38 <Steven> back
16:11:39 <Steven> sup
16:12:49 <Mort-> Steven you doing we be goblins tomorrow?
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16:26:41 <Steven> tomorrow is thursday
16:26:43 <Steven> dont know
16:26:52 <Steven> sam has tomorrow off
16:27:05 <Steven> she went shopping with her mom today even though her mom was sick
16:27:35 <Steven> so im expecting her wanting me all day to be an arm ornament
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16:28:54 <Mort-> Ah k
16:28:57 <Mort-> Np then
16:29:07 <Avatar> today is thursday
16:29:20 <Steven> not for me avatar
16:29:30 <Avatar> we be goblins is definitely tomorrow chief
16:29:48 <Avatar> don't wait for the day after or you will miss out !
16:30:33 <Steven> dont try to confuse me!
16:30:40 <Steven> also i didnt have to play with bobby
16:30:47 <Steven> actually had fun tonight.
16:31:18 <Avatar> I'm trying to clarify your confused mind
16:31:24 <Avatar> don't try to resist it
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16:44:35 <Avatar> kind of like trying to ask for a will save when someone's trying to cast cure light wounds on you
16:47:19 <forevernade_> lol
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17:06:24 <Jumpy142> Hey, how do I know when I get more feats? Do I just get 1 per level?
17:07:56 <Avatar> you get one each odd level
17:08:00 <Avatar> 1st, 3rd, 5th etc
17:08:02 <Mort-> Every odd level you get one
17:08:10 <Avatar> what class are you
17:08:14 <Mort-> And some classes have bonus feats
17:08:26 <Mort-> He is a whizzie
17:08:37 <Mort-> He whizzes around
17:08:51 <Mort-> So he gets a bonus feat at 5 and 11
17:09:00 <Avatar> 5 and 10
17:09:08 <Avatar> every 5 levels
17:09:20 <Mort-> Oh
17:09:22 <Avatar> as well as every odd level
17:09:22 <Mort-> K
17:09:25 <Mort-> Forgot
17:09:52 <Mort-> But whizzie sounds nice
17:09:58 <Mort-> They whizz
17:10:12 <Jumpy142> Ah ok
17:10:33 <Jumpy142> When I multiclass into Barbarian, do I get another feat straight away?
17:10:39 <Jumpy142> Oh, every odd level? Cool
17:11:34 <MekkisScreen> I accidentally have been setting fonts to Tengwar Annatar rather than Tahoma
17:12:38 <Avatar> you don't get a regular feat when you multiclass
17:13:00 <Avatar> you get a bonus feat if you multiclass into 1st level fighter, like a 1st level fighter would
17:13:36 <Jumpy142> Oh ok
17:14:21 <Jumpy142> Fighters get a lot of feats...
17:15:22 <Avatar> yeah
17:15:30 <Avatar> combat feats though
17:16:26 <MekkisScreen> most classes take at least one combat feat
17:17:51 <Jumpy142> What does "damage reduction 5/-" mean?
17:18:11 <MekkisScreen> whenever you would take nonelemental damage, it's reduced by 5
17:18:18 <MekkisScreen> nonmagical, nonelemental
17:18:56 <Jumpy142> Ah I'm
17:18:57 <Jumpy142> Ok*
17:19:11 <Jumpy142> What's the /- part mean?
17:21:41 <Mort-> That can by pass
17:22:27 <Mort-> 5/ blugeoning
17:22:53 <Mort-> Means that any other melee form i damage you with the damage will be reduced by 5
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17:23:36 <Mort-> Except when i use a blugeoning weapon. Like a club
17:23:37 <Mort-> Gah
17:23:56 <Mort-> Explained all of that for nothing ><
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17:48:41 <Jumpy142> Is Pain Taster a legal prestige class in Pathfinder?
17:49:05 <Mort-> I don't think so
17:49:20 <Mort-> Never heard of that class before
17:55:13 <Avatar> to find out if something's legal, you want to check the Additional Resources page
17:55:22 <Avatar> which you can get to via the getting started page on the site
17:56:58 <Jumpy142> Can't really at the moment :/
17:57:12 <Avatar> can't really what
17:58:10 <Jumpy142> Check
17:58:15 <Jumpy142> Bad internet
17:58:49 <Jumpy142> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/n-r/pain-taster
17:59:16 <Jumpy142> Where can I tell what book it's from?
17:59:42 <Avatar> it says down the bottom
17:59:49 <Avatar> Pathfinder 15: The Armageddon Echo
17:59:55 <Avatar> Pathfinder Adventure Path
18:00:00 <Mort-> Yeah
18:00:05 <Jumpy142> Ah ok
18:00:06 <Mort-> Is it included?
18:00:23 <Avatar> looks like nothing in that book is legal
18:00:30 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/browse?path=pathfinderSociety%2Fresources
18:00:31 <Avatar> it's not listed
18:00:48 <Jumpy142> Damn :(
18:00:50 <Mort-> Anyway mind you its damage reduction vs non lethal damage
18:01:16 <Mort-> I have yet to see a monster use non lethal on us
18:01:36 <Jumpy142> Yeah, but there are other bonuses
18:01:44 <Mort-> We have definitiely used non lethal against them though
18:01:55 <Jumpy142> Also: it'd fit in with my character's story well
18:03:16 <Mort-> Anyway. Not allowed
18:03:21 <Mort-> Point is moot
18:04:10 <Mort-> You know if i saw that guy on the street?
18:04:22 <Mort-> My wizard would probably run away screaming
18:17:09 <Brunius> Mort-: There's a Wizard archetype which lets you use scrolls as weapons
18:17:12 <Brunius> :D
18:17:16 <Ballig> it's a bit shit
18:17:45 <Brunius> Shit, but totally cool
18:17:51 <Ballig> shittily cool
18:17:52 <Ballig> :p
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18:21:33 <Mort-> Why would you hit someone over the head with rolled up paper?
18:21:44 <Mort-> I admit i have done it in real life tin hi
18:21:46 <Mort-> Though
18:23:46 <Mort-> Damn expensive to fight that way
18:23:47 <Mort-> Ew
18:36:35 <forevernade_> Can anyone help review my homebrew for a viking campaign?
18:40:11 <Mort-> Sorry. I'm not qualified. I don't even know what system its in. And if i were to give suggestions they would be nasty ones
18:40:19 <Mort-> Because i belong to the dark side.
18:40:25 <Mort-> They have cookies you know
18:40:31 <Ballig> also she's schizophrenic
18:41:18 <Mort-> I have been taking my medicine ballig.
18:41:26 <Mort-> I'm human. For now.
18:41:37 <Ballig> are you actually medicated
18:41:45 <Ballig> or is this imaginary medicine
18:42:18 <Mort-> Good point. I'm not so sure. Since your asking me that. Yes its real medicine
18:45:23 <Avatar> real medicine for schizophrenia?
18:45:45 <Avatar> or are we talking cough syrup
18:46:00 <Mort-> Njh
18:46:04 <Mort-> I'm myself
18:46:09 <Mort-> Fully me
18:46:21 <Avatar> yeah but what's the medicine for
18:47:19 <Mort-> No. I'm not schizophrenic.
18:47:25 <Mort-> I don't need any medicine
18:47:28 <Mort-> I'm myself
18:48:00 <Avatar> what is the real medicine about
18:48:34 <Ballig> she's just bullshitting
18:48:43 <Mort-> I dunno wat ballig is talking about
18:48:50 <Mort-> But I'm human!
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18:48:54 <Ballig> I didn't mentiona nything about medication
18:48:55 <Ballig> that was you
18:49:41 <Mort-> Nah
18:49:52 <Mort-> Well I'm telling you now. I don't need any.
18:50:07 <Ballig> I never said you had medication
18:50:16 <Mort-> Cool
18:50:34 <Mort-> So id like to tell the world.
18:51:00 <Mort-> I'm not schizophrenic
18:51:54 <Ballig> the lady doth protest too much, methinks
18:53:03 * Mort- doesn't think so
18:53:46 * Mort- also has a good vocabulary and understands shakespherean English
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18:54:13 * Mort- could also probably speak it if it didn't require that much tongue twisting
18:57:05 <Mort-> Btw i thought romeo and juliet was totally soapy
18:57:12 * Mort- winces
18:57:37 <Mort-> They should have bought potions of invisibility. Hats of disguise
18:57:41 <Mort-> And went out of town
19:03:29 <Ballig> :p
19:03:39 <Ballig> stories like that seem cliche to us now, but they actually created the cliche
19:08:40 <Mort-> I liked the merchant of Venice
19:08:47 <Mort-> And the tempest
19:09:10 <Mort-> King lear and mcbeth made me feel sad
19:09:31 <Mort-> Couldn't understand midsummer nights dream
19:09:33 <Brunius> I only ever read a midsummer night's dream
19:09:36 <Brunius> because school made me
19:09:51 <Ballig> I think it's unfair to make high school kids read shakespeare
19:09:57 <Ballig> they should get to watch a play
19:10:07 <Brunius> Apparently it was designed to show the contrast between the order of the city and the disorder of the woods
19:10:09 <Ballig> it would be like reading the star wars script and trying to understand it
19:10:34 <Brunius> "So...han actually shot first?"
19:10:36 <Mort-> Sometimes i understand the movie book better then the movie
19:10:57 <Ballig> if it's a /book/ sure
19:11:02 <Mort-> Actually i find books easier to understand
19:11:04 <Ballig> but I'm talking about a movie script
19:11:28 <Avatar> I was totally into romeo and juliet
19:11:35 <Mort-> Movie scripts..
19:11:43 <Mort-> Romeo and Juliet.
19:11:48 <Ballig> Mort-: like imagine Star Wars, which wasn't a book first
19:11:54 <Ballig> and trying to read the script that the actors use
19:11:55 <Mort-> All i wanted to do was to dump them into the pool
19:12:00 <Ballig> and understand the movie
19:12:03 <Mort-> I read it actually
19:12:14 <Ballig> I'm sure you also watched the movie
19:12:16 <Mort-> I understood fine :o
19:12:39 <Mort-> That was before i watched that particular episode btw
19:12:53 <Ballig> bullshit it was
19:12:56 <Mort-> i thought the pictures on the front cover looked cool
19:13:08 <Ballig> what are the chances that you just happened to read the script of a movie before you saw the movie, and it just happened to be the movie I used as an example
19:13:17 <Mort-> I watched episode 1 2 and 3
19:13:19 <Ballig> there are no pictures on the front cover of a MOVIE SCRIPT
19:13:27 <Mort-> Yes there were
19:13:29 <Ballig> I'm not talking about a book
19:13:31 <Ballig> I'm talking about a script
19:13:38 <Mort-> Because it was the art to star wars?
19:13:48 <Mort-> They showed the entire design of the movie
19:13:52 <Mort-> With the script
19:14:17 <Mort-> And the philosophy behind it
19:14:20 <Ballig> you're bullshitting
19:14:36 <Mort-> I really read that book in the library
19:14:49 <Mort-> Even the standard literature format is fine by me
19:16:04 <Ballig> sorry, not believing it
19:16:09 <Ballig> chances are astronomically slim
19:16:55 <Mort-> Sometimes lets just say
19:17:12 <Mort-> I don't grasp the nuances in watching a movie
19:17:38 <Mort-> Like if king lear was to say in a shocked tone "what?"
19:17:53 <Mort-> I might not interpret it as such
19:18:30 <Ballig> but if the book says "What?" you will interpret it properly?
19:18:42 <Mort-> In the actors script there will be a (shocked voice) "what?"
19:19:20 <Mort-> The play scripts i have seen usually do put the delivery of the message across
19:20:25 <Ballig> I still think you're full of shit
19:20:57 <Mort-> But I'm just telling the way i function
19:21:28 <Mort-> I don't understand plays that well
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19:27:28 <Mekkis> how much is a hat of disguise?
19:27:35 <Brunius> 17k
19:27:41 <Mekkis> really?
19:27:46 <Brunius> Nope
19:27:53 <Brunius> I'm just pulling numbers out of my ass
19:28:16 <Mekkis> Grolschmir's considering getting Glamour for his armour, or a hat of disguise
19:28:19 <Mekkis> whatever's cheaper
19:29:08 <Mort-> Has someone been hitting his caster buddies?
19:29:14 <Mort-> 1800 gp!
19:29:18 <Mort-> Cheap cheap!
19:30:12 <Mort-> Glamour is 10 min per level
19:30:26 <Mort-> I recommend the hat!
19:30:42 <Ballig> the glamer special armor ability isn't 10 minutes per level
19:30:57 <Mort-> I think hat is cheaper
19:31:09 <Mort-> +1 is 2k is it not?
19:31:50 <Ballig> glamer isn't a modifier bonus
19:31:54 <Ballig> but it is somewhere between 2 and 3k
19:31:57 <Mort-> 2700 gp
19:32:02 <Mort-> Hat is cheaper!
19:32:21 <Ballig> I'm aware
19:32:40 <Mort-> Meks looking for cheap stuff
19:32:49 <Mort-> Recommend him the hat
19:33:02 <Ballig> I'm not arguing with you :p
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19:47:30 <Steven> stupid drunk people
19:47:45 <Steven> internet went out for like 2.5 hours cause some ass hat decided he needed to drink and drive
19:48:04 <Ballig> :O
19:48:06 <Ballig> did he die
19:48:12 <Steven> crashed into some electrical equipment box thing down the road
19:48:19 <Steven> no, he got arrested though
19:48:58 <Steven> took my dog magnus for a walk when i got super bored
19:49:19 <Steven> and found the tow truck
19:52:47 <Avatar> if I were a dog I would prefer to be called magneto
20:06:09 <Steven> well magnus is for Magnus Ver Magnusson
20:06:38 <Avatar> I would still prefer magneto
20:06:56 <Steven> worlds strongest man for a couple years
20:07:05 <Steven> held the world record for a tire deadlift
20:07:08 <Steven> like 981lbs
20:07:31 <Avatar> vs the man who can control magnetic fields and wants to destroy humanity
20:07:33 <Steven> because magnus is supposed to be a great big moster of a dog
20:07:35 <Avatar> think about it
20:07:47 <Steven> monster of a dog
20:07:56 <Avatar> dogs 4eva
20:07:59 <Steven> Malamut newfoundland and husky mix
20:08:11 <Steven> but turns out he is the runt of the litter
20:08:19 <Steven> and is only about 1/2 the size he supposed to be
20:08:30 <Steven> his brothers and sisters are huge dogs
20:09:05 <Steven> but yeah, didnt know that when we named him
20:10:36 <Steven> anyways, im going to go to bed, my headache finally gone
20:10:54 <Steven> only took... lets see 20hrs to get rid of
20:11:11 <Brunius> Night Steven
20:11:12 <Steven> night man, see ya tomorrow.
20:11:18 <Steven> night to you too brunius
20:11:44 <Steven> May a flock of vagina's find their way to your laps by days end!
20:11:56 <Brunius> ...
20:12:27 <Steven> you not appreciate my benediction?
20:12:35 <Brunius> I'm 15 yo
20:12:38 <Brunius> And it's 8:13pm
20:12:40 <Steven> so?
20:12:58 <Steven> you telling me as a 15 yo you wouldnt appreciate a flock of vagina's?
20:12:58 <Brunius> So the chances of 4 hours resulting in that at my age are approximately 0%
20:13:04 <Steven> not true
20:13:22 <Steven> ide say its like 0.0001% chance of happening
20:13:52 <Mekkis> Brunius, now you need an APG !
20:14:13 <Steven> they might think your house is the house of charlie sheen and that you are like his son or something, and give you a piece in hopes your dad rewards them with lots of cocaine and money.
20:14:23 <Brunius> ...
20:14:27 <Brunius> Mekkis: Quite right.
20:14:40 <Brunius> Know anywhere good for getting PF books?
20:14:49 <Steven> paizo.com
20:14:53 <Steven> get the pdfs
20:15:04 <Brunius> No
20:15:07 <Brunius> PDFs suck
20:15:15 <Steven> way cheaper then the books
20:15:17 <Steven> infact
20:15:23 <Steven> if you buy the pdf
20:15:32 <Mekkis> Brunius, Amazon
20:15:44 <Brunius> What's their shipping like?
20:15:47 <Steven> take it to a kinkos(copy store) and have them print the pdf off in black and white and bind it
20:15:53 <Mekkis> $7 or $8
20:16:01 <Mekkis> if you don't mind waiting a month
20:16:14 <Steven> will still cost less then buying a book flat out
20:16:42 <Mekkis> I need a new core rulebook
20:26:11 <Steven> im tellin ya, pdf+kinkos
20:26:37 <Steven> i didnt go the kinkos route
20:27:00 <Steven> as Sam had like 1500 pages on her student account.
20:27:05 <Steven> at the university
20:27:16 <Steven> so, i begged her to print it off for me
20:27:28 <Steven> she did like 150 pages a day till it was done
20:27:39 <Steven> cause shes a kick ass girlfriend.
20:29:04 <Brunius> Mekkis: Know anywhere good to buy singles? Preferably in Melbourne, but online retailers are good I guess
20:29:24 <Steven> magic singles?
20:29:28 <Brunius> eeyup
20:29:36 <Steven> whatcha lookin for?
20:30:31 <Brunius> Drogskol Captains and Steel Overseers, mainly
20:32:00 <Steven> thats rather odd pair of cards
20:32:12 <Brunius> For different decks, obviously
20:32:15 <Steven> adaptive automatons?
20:32:35 <Steven> oddly enough...
20:32:37 <Brunius> I'd be looking for Drogskul Reavers, too, but they're mythic rare and expensive
20:33:12 <Steven> drogskol captains, adaptive automatons, steel overseers, and Phyrexian metamorphs might combo very well together
20:33:40 <Steven> no way, reavers are like 3.50
20:34:11 <Steven> prolly experience a little price jump once they start spoiling some of the upcomming spirits
20:34:24 <Steven> so might want to pick one or two up now
20:37:09 <Brunius> Hmm, Good Games want me to pay them $2.50/Drogskol Captain
20:37:13 <Brunius> Nowai yo
20:37:33 <Steven> shouldnt pay more then a buck imo
20:37:35 <Steven> if that
20:40:43 <Mekkis> Brunius, Games Laboratory
20:40:53 <Mekkis> or $ME
20:40:57 <Brunius> That's the one your mate runs, isn't it?
20:40:59 <Brunius> Games Lab?
20:41:38 <Mekkis> it's the one James Mackay runes
20:41:39 <Mekkis> runs
20:41:52 <Mekkis> not sure if I should call him my "mate"
20:42:03 <Mekkis> more "I'm required to report to him"
20:42:12 <Brunius> That's the one you've tried to get me to go to before, isn't it?
20:44:05 <Mekkis> not sure
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22:55:21 <Brunius> If you guys ever get famous, you've gotta do AMAs on reddit
22:55:24 <Brunius> They're amazing.
22:58:44 <Brunius> Night guys
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22:59:10 <OsterGuard> Shit
22:59:19 <OsterGuard> Brunius goes on Reddit?
22:59:23 <Mort-> Lol
22:59:27 <Mort-> Hi oster
22:59:37 <OsterGuard> I HAVE FOUND MY SOULMATE
22:59:40 <OsterGuard> hey mort
22:59:48 <OsterGuard> He better be pretty
22:59:52 <Mort-> There is a we be goblins game tomorrow
22:59:54 <Mort-> Lol
23:00:09 <OsterGuard> we be goblins?
23:00:22 <OsterGuard> I don't think I can make it D:
23:00:33 <Mort-> Aw :(
23:00:55 <Mort-> Sat you can't apply credits to pallasa i think
23:01:01 <Mort-> Only a newly generated character
23:01:09 <Mort-> If i didn't get rules wrong :(
23:01:24 <Mort-> Sunday its 3-7 scenario ><
23:01:58 <Mort-> See how mph
23:02:08 <Mort-> I'm now looking at stuff
23:02:25 <OsterGuard> hmmm
23:02:43 <Mort-> I think. I'm no rules lawyer
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