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04:48 <Thelen> aaaaand i killed the channel :D
05:03 <Brunius> gg
14:56 Avatar- has quit (Quit: go get analysed)
19:48 <Avatar> brunius really killed it
20:31 <Brunius> Probably
23:09 <Avatar> I'm not sure that video was worth it
23:25 <Avatar> I was quite excited for a moment
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47:04 Brunius has quit (Quit: See you on the other side !)
57:46 <Hydrazine> morning
02:55 <Avatar> yo
03:01 <Avatar> what's the upgrade price to go from a +2 headband to a +4
03:04 <Avatar> 12000gp isn't it
04:46 <Avatar> man
04:51 <Avatar> there's a lot of things you can buy with 16000gp
05:11 <Avatar> the medium wondrous items are a hell of a lot better than the minor wondrous items I've gotten far too used to looking at
05:49 <Avatar> do i get a miniscule +2 headband upgrade or a beastly cloak of resistance +4
05:54 <Avatar> or a flying carpet, or a broom of flying
06:17 <Avatar> periapt of wound closure sounds like I can buy immortality !
12:10 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Fri 7pm (Avatar,new game,1) / Sat 1pm (Brunius, new game 5-9) / Sun 1pm (Avatar,new game) | ED: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
12:10 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Apr  9 20:28:20 2012
12:10 <***> Buffer Playback...
12:11 <***> Playback Complete.
12:29 <Avatar> the con guys think qadira isn't one of them
13:57 <Avatar> necklace of adaptation gives you immunity to all sorts of gases (like stinking cloud and cloudkill), inhaled poisons, and allows you to breathe underwater or in a vacuum
13:59 <Mekkis> wouldn't be surprised if its either osirion or qadira
14:03 <Avatar> for 9000gp and a neck slot
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14:12 <Avatar> that sounds very decent
14:21 <Mekkis> I'd like to get rid of grand lodge
14:31 <Avatar> you know what, so would I
14:40 <Avatar> grand lodge hardly feels like a faction at all
15:10 <Brunius> Yeah
15:31 <Brunius> You'll have to select a proper faction for Buck if that happens :P
15:40 <Avatar> no issue
15:50 <Avatar> I'm keeping my trait !
16:08 <Mekkis> I want the wonderseekers to come in :)
16:20 <Brunius> They might force a character rebuild !
16:24 <Avatar> are they bringing one in
16:37 <Avatar> I don't think they are
16:52 <Brunius> Mort-: http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz5jiq?Command-Word-Grrrr-Can-you-create-an
24:29 <Mort-> Jumpy?
24:40 <Avatar> can you guys confirm yourselves that you want to play now, for the next 6 hours?
24:52 <Ausk> mort you signing me up for things again?
25:07 <Avatar> she is trying to
25:15 <Avatar> I don't want to run a game if you guys don't really want to play
25:23 <Mekkis> but I'd like to say Osirion/Qadira, Scazni, Grand Lodge and Shadow Lodge
25:26 <Avatar> but with 3 people I'll run something
25:28 <Mort-> If its qadira ill be pissed
25:31 <Steven> one second
25:36 * Mort- growls
25:39 <Mekkis> possibly lantern lodge too
25:42 <Avatar> at least 3 people
25:42 <Mekkis> why?
25:45 <Mort-> Lol
25:47 <Steven> ill message sam real fast
26:06 <Hydrazine> Not me. Not now.
26:11 <Mort-> Oh ok
26:15 <Mort-> Never min them
26:18 <Hydrazine> Not available for a whole game
26:24 <Avatar> fair enough
26:31 <Mort-> Ah k
26:36 <Mekkis> I'm seriously considering creating a character for PVP...
26:39 <Mort-> Well i probably am the only person in channel who has someone from there
26:43 <Mort-> I am not supposed t play as work
26:56 <Avatar> mort do you have access to CA
27:04 <Mort-> And i see nothing wrong with the faction missions
27:09 <Mort-> Technically yes
27:09 <Mort-> They are fine really.
27:18 <Mort-> No skype no nothing
27:18 <Avatar> what does that mean
27:22 <Mort-> Yes
27:26 <Avatar> ok
27:27 <Mort-> Finding a new faction will be a pain
27:31 <Avatar> that doesn't rule you out then :P
27:38 <Mort-> I like qadira thank you very much
27:39 <Steven> okay, i can play but sam says i better have dinner ready when she gets home
28:11 <Mort-> Lol
28:19 * Mort- misses hydra :p
28:25 <Avatar> Mort-: you're not the only one
28:32 <Avatar> look I'm seriously thinking, if you can't stay the entire scenario for some reason and you bail 1/2 way through or 3/4 way through or before the last encounter, then you don't get a chronicle sheet
28:34 <Avatar> who has a qadira character
28:41 <Mort-> Really?
28:42 <Avatar> you need to be able to stick it out
28:43 <Avatar> yeah
28:46 <Mort-> True
28:46 <Avatar> at least one other person does
28:48 <Mort-> I like my faction thank you.
28:51 <Mort-> Really?
28:58 <Mort-> Who could it be hmm.
28:58 <Avatar> yeah really
29:00 <Mort-> I'm at work so sporadically around
29:10 <Avatar> it hurts the game for everyone else at the table
29:10 <Hydrazine> Have I ever left a game unfinished, Avatar?
29:17 <Avatar> you sound pretty surprised for someone who thinks it's a great faction
29:19 <Avatar> I'm not accusing anyone
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29:27 <Mort-> I might even get myself the faction titles 
29:28 <Steven> you can accuse me avatar
29:29 <Avatar> as in "who could possibly like this dumb faction?"
29:33 <Steven> im okay with it.
29:33 <Avatar> I'm just saying this is probably what's going to happen to make it easier on people who are trying to do the right thing
29:46 <Mort-> Just to do snooty mage jabber :p
30:23 <Avatar> if I were to get a flavour item for snickers, it'd be a amulet of proof against detection and location
30:29 <Mort-> Andoran seems to involve quite some diplomacy
30:31 <Avatar> but that's 19000gp and not useful at all for PFS
30:33 <Avatar> completely inpractical
30:48 <Mort-> Most of them. And good aligned
31:18 <Steven> last week i got up from the table and walked around to calm down, and aparantly i missed two rounds of combat.
31:40 <Avatar> I'm probably going to stick with the headband upgrade and wait until I get more money before I go thinking about funky items
31:53 <Avatar> I'll feel a bit safer that way
31:55 <Avatar> were you okay
32:03 <Avatar> calm down from what
32:12 <Avatar> I forgot to increase all my int skills when I first got the headband
32:18 <Mort-> I rather look at funky items
32:18 <Avatar> so i've been playing with -1 to them for whoknowshowlong
32:25 <Avatar> well what would you get
32:26 <Steven> oh i was at bobbies table of Shinaniganze, bad calls, and fictional combos.
32:29 <Avatar> if you had 16000gp to spend
32:31 <Mort-> Not sure
32:40 <Avatar> I have been pouring over it all day and I have no idea
32:45 <Mort-> Meta magic persist rod
32:48 <Avatar> well I have some idea, but none of them are really grabbing me
32:50 <Mort-> For mort
32:53 <Brunius> 5>20
32:53 <Avatar> I don't need anymore rods
32:56 <Hydrazine> shennanigans.
32:56 <Avatar> the reach rod is enough
33:03 <Avatar> if it's a medical thing, it's fair enough if you disappear, and if the game is really becoming too much for you, ask for a break
33:04 <Hydrazine> I think.
33:09 <Mort-> Consider dazing rod for mort as well
33:17 <Avatar> I'm talking wondrous items or maybe rings
33:27 <Avatar> two rounds of combat isn't really outrageous
33:31 <Steven> yeah... bobby as about to go to the hospital lol
33:35 <Mort-> I don't know how witches play
33:55 <Steven> thats medical righta?
33:56 <Mort-> How many monsters have you caused to fall asleep?
34:00 <Steven> im joking
34:01 <Avatar> I don't really need witch optimisation
34:04 <Avatar> the headband will do that
34:05 <Avatar> :P
34:21 <Steven> i would never hit him where there were witnesses
34:23 <Mort-> Is sleep effective at higher levels?
34:29 <Mort-> To give cdg?
34:30 <Avatar> about 1 in 4-5 bad guys won't fall asleep
34:39 <Avatar> yeah
34:42 <Avatar> what is cdg
34:46 <Mort-> As in immune?
34:53 <Mort-> Coup de grace
34:53 <Avatar> there are a lot that are immune
35:01 <Mort-> I see
35:11 <Mort-> How does ice tomb work
35:21 <Mort-> Can you cdg a monster in it?
35:26 <Avatar> ice tomb is a major hex that I don't get until 10th level
35:28 <Mort-> Or trying to will break the had
35:32 <Steven> oh and he ended up killing that player last night.  The one he changed the roll from a 5 to a 20 while trying to hit a blind character.
35:33 <Avatar> you can't coup de grace it
35:43 <Mort-> ?
35:45 <Avatar> technically it's helpless, but it's helpless inside an ice cage
35:47 <Mort-> Ooh
35:47 <Jumpy142> Hey, hey guys
35:50 <Avatar> that's terrible
35:52 <Avatar> why did he do that
35:56 <Jumpy142> I can actually play Friday :D
35:58 <Avatar> you'd have to free it first
36:03 <Steven> cause he's bobby
36:03 <Avatar> Jumpy142: accept the invitation on the site
36:08 <Jumpy142> I did
36:10 <Avatar> mate if I saw that
36:12 <Avatar> I would never play with him again
36:16 <Avatar> good show
36:23 <Avatar> that's a full table
36:26 <Avatar> well
36:27 <Avatar> not full
36:31 <Avatar> but a standard table
36:38 <Steven> and thats why i call his table the Bobbies table of shinaniganze, bad calls, and fictional combos.
36:41 <Avatar> mort have you played first steps 2?
36:50 <Avatar> I think you played it with me didn't you
36:53 <Mort-> I have  someone who hasn't
36:54 <Mort-> Yeah
36:57 <Avatar> what kind of GM turns a miss into a critical hit
36:59 <Avatar> cool
37:01 <Avatar> on a fudge
37:03 <Mort-> But i have a level 1 around
37:10 <Avatar> very nice
37:12 <Mort-> Grull!
37:17 <Steven> well on top of that he was doing it vs a blind character
37:17 <Avatar> that sounds too dodgy
37:17 <Jumpy142> Do I need to play First Steps 1 first?
37:21 <Avatar> there must more to it surely
37:21 <Avatar> no
37:26 <Avatar> you can play multipart scenarios out of order
37:28 <Steven> w/ 4 other PCs in perfect health trying to kill him
37:32 <Jumpy142> Cool
37:34 <Mort-> Not really
37:41 <Avatar> yes really
37:47 <Avatar> you will some continuity, but you can still do it
37:48 <Mort-> Problem is all my characters have fs 1
38:09 <Ausk> OK
38:10 <Ausk> im back
38:13 <Steven> um... so you CC one PC and then go ahead and try to kill him instead of breaking down the party and trying to win
38:17 <Avatar> speaking of being back
38:19 <Ausk> made dinner
38:20 <Avatar> change your nick back
38:23 <Steven> you just douche one PC completely
38:36 * Ausk will consider it
38:39 <Steven> yeah thats what im classifying a "bad call'
38:41 <Mort-> And not rolling any more 
38:45 <Mort-> Not for a while
39:07 Ausk is now known as Steven
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39:40 <Avatar> it's a stretch to even fudge a roll from a miss to a hit when they're not blinded
39:42 <mortswishytail> Rest are fine
39:48 <Steven> but its no big deal.  I dont have to play with Bobby ever again.  I talked to Walter about it.
40:09 <Steven> He wont purposely put me at a table with bobby ever again.  
40:24 <Avatar> very dispapointing that UM doesn't have any magic items
40:35 <Avatar> wasn't this a home game
40:53 <Brunius> That was PFS at his local store
40:57 <Steven> no, it was organized play.
41:00 <Avatar> oh nice
41:04 <Avatar> it's called ultimate magic, but it should probably just be called a lot of magic 
41:05 <Avatar> yeah, I meant PFS in a home game
41:05 <mortswishytail> Can you choose not to apply cred to a character till you get of level?
41:15 <Avatar> no
41:16 <mortswishytail> Say if you play with a pregen
41:25 <mortswishytail> Huh?
41:26 <MekkisScreen> <?Grolschmir
41:26 <diebot> Gnomish Eagle Knight, PFS# 10339-2
41:29 <Steven> nah, its Pathfinder Society Organized Play
41:42 <MekkisScreen> ?Grolschmir
41:49 <mortswishytail> Your a captain
41:51 <mortswishytail> Now
41:53 <Avatar> steven have you played blood under absalom
41:54 <mortswishytail> Mek
41:56 <MekkisScreen> not yet
42:01 <Steven> let me check!
42:04 <mortswishytail> Aren't you?
42:06 <MekkisScreen> still working up the fame
42:09 <Avatar> it's a special
42:11 <Avatar> if you had, you'd know
42:22 Steven is now known as Captain
42:30 Captain is now known as Captain_Ausk
42:31 <MekkisScreen> 9 fame off
42:35 <Captain_Ausk> ahhhhhhhhhhhh yeah
42:40 <mortswishytail> When you buy items
42:45 <mortswishytail> Sorry titles
42:46 <Steven> you confuse me for someone who can remember things man.
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42:56 <mortswishytail> You use fame?
42:59 <Avatar> your memory can't be worse than mine
43:01 <Steven> I am terrible with names.
43:08 <Steven> really really really really really reall y bad
43:08 <mortswishytail> Prestige i know you will use
43:19 <mortswishytail> And its permanent right?
43:35 <Avatar> A player who uses a pregenerated 
43:35 <Avatar> character  must  apply  the  Chronicle  sheet  to  a  newly 
43:35 <Avatar> created 1st-level character.
43:49 <Brunius> Avatar can't remember what he had for breakfast this morning
43:51 <Steven> nope havent played it yet
43:54 <Steven> me either!
44:03 <mortswishytail> Can't apply to exsisting?
44:05 <mortswishytail> Oh dear
44:08 <Avatar> newly created
44:10 <mortswishytail> Poor hydra
44:25 <Avatar> I am having breakfast now
44:30 <Avatar> what's wrong with hydra
44:33 <mortswishytail> Can't go for 5-9
44:34 <Brunius> Ha
44:37 <Avatar> get your facts straight brunius
44:40 <mortswishytail> Jerus is 4
44:44 <Brunius> It's not morning.
44:49 <Brunius> So my statement stands
44:49 <Avatar> So
44:49 <Avatar> how far into 4?
44:59 <mortswishytail> 4.1 i think
45:02 <Avatar> I'm thinking we can probably run it here when we get 10 people
45:12 <mortswishytail> Its hard to get stuff done on week days
45:20 <Avatar> I don't think we can get 2 scenarios in before friday
45:28 <mortswishytail> Yeah i know
45:38 <Brunius> I wouldn't want to run it with less than 5/table
45:45 <mortswishytail> Wait for next run i guess
46:04 <Avatar> you might be right
46:04 <Thelen> hhaha
46:18 <Thelen> darkwhite said min 2 tables 5 each
46:20 <Thelen> iirc
46:26 <Avatar> did he
46:28 <Avatar> there you go
46:39 <mortswishytail> Unless someone can run seperate games
46:41 <mortswishytail> Hm
46:42 <Thelen> though he wondered how it'd work over irc
46:50 <Thelen> said it might need 3 dms
47:07 <Thelen> or just lots of cooperation between the 2
47:13 <Thelen> so that things can be kept in time
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47:16 <Brunius> I'd probably have one a table, and one managing maps
47:19 mortswishytail has quit (Quit: Bye)
47:23 <Brunius> One DM purely managing maps
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47:38 <Mort-> Hm
47:44 <Mort-> Thelen!
47:52 <Mort-> Help me find trist
47:53 <Brunius> We could try pulling in some people from that google group
47:54 <Mort-> Thelen around on sat?
48:17 <Steven> let me chek the scedule for the local group
48:17 <Mort-> Or tristen?
48:20 <Brunius> We'd probably need a whole new table from that group
48:24 <Avatar> well
48:36 <Avatar> I'd sort of want people who have played on IRC before
48:49 <Avatar> it'd probably be a full day game
48:51 <Brunius> Yeah
49:04 <MekkisScreen> Mort, work on your roleplaying
49:27 <Thelen> in terms of length iirc its just short of a double modules
49:35 <Thelen> its like 1.7 or something
49:46 * Mort- sulks
50:07 <Mort-> You haven't even been seeing me for the past quite a number of scenarios
50:32 <Thelen> or is that 1.3
50:33 <Thelen> hmm
50:38 <Thelen> how long did it go for at arc?
50:42 <Steven> okay just hecked, i cant participate in Blood under Absolom.
50:51 <Steven> checked even
50:59 <Brunius> Three Sesesions at arc
51:22 <Brunius> Why Steven? Your local group going to run it sometime?
51:22 <Mort-> There is also a clause in pathfinder rule guide that says you are supposed to cooperate with the chelaxian devil worshipper even if he irritates you
51:25 <Steven> Walter has it on the schedule.  
51:36 <Steven> in a Module Slot.
51:46 <Thelen> yea so its like 1.3x a normal module
51:49 <Brunius> That sounds about right
51:55 <MekkisScreen> And...
52:01 <Avatar> I've played almost all of season 3 and hardly any of season 2
52:05 <Brunius> Haha
52:10 <Thelen> lol
52:16 <Brunius> How many of the 7-11 S03 have you played?
52:18 <Avatar> only 3 scenarios I haven't played in season 3
52:21 <Mort-> So even if you don't like him you can at least try to be civil
52:26 <Avatar> I can't see tiers at a glance
52:47 <MekkisScreen> I don't have a problem with that
52:57 <Avatar> 19 scenarios I haven't played in season 2
53:06 <Avatar> that includes the ones I've died in though
53:06 <MekkisScreen> but if he isn't roleplaying, there isn't anything I can do
53:17 <MekkisScreen> it's a conundrum
53:19 <Avatar> which seem to all be season 2, except for darkest vengeance
53:45 <Avatar> I wonder if that says something about season 2 scenarios at tier 1-2
53:59 * Mort- is puzzled and doesn't understand
54:08 <Captain_Ausk> you guys talking about morts character i played with the other day?
54:14 <Mort-> Oh dear
54:14 <Captain_Ausk> !nick Ronal
54:19 Captain_Ausk is now known as Ronal
54:24 <Mort-> Don't talk about it
54:25 <MekkisScreen> no
54:35 * Mort- blushes
54:38 <Thelen> heh
54:40 Ronal is now known as Steven
54:42 <Thelen> i'm not sure what i've played
54:48 <Thelen> but im assuming very little of either
54:58 <Thelen> arc, was that s2 or 3?
55:00 <Steven> it was so much fun when i offered to pull the stick out of the ass of your character mort.
55:07 <Avatar> what is arc
55:08 <Mort-> Its hard to insult someone who doesn't really understand words
55:10 <Thelen> anacon
55:10 <Steven> i giggled for like 12 seconds
55:15 <Mort-> Don't really get that one
55:18 <Avatar> what?
55:20 <Avatar> arcanacon?
55:20 <Mort-> Unfortunately
55:22 <Thelen> arcanacon
55:23 <Thelen> yealol
55:27 <Mort-> What stick.
55:32 <Avatar> seasons relate to scenarios, not to cons
55:36 <Thelen> i know
55:39 <Avatar> at arcanacon season 3 was out
55:39 <Steven> your characters super uptight
55:44 <Thelen> rigt
55:45 <Steven> hes got a stick up his ass.
55:49 <Thelen> so QfP etc was 3?
55:55 <Mort-> He is up tight
56:00 <Thelen> or not necesarily
56:05 <Avatar> have a look at this: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/pfs.php5
56:10 <Avatar> and mark off anything you've played while you're there
56:18 <Avatar> (log in first)
56:20 <Steven> yeah... and so ronal offered to pull that stick out of his ass
56:35 <MekkisScreen> !recentsheets
56:38 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-04-09 18:53 308 Buck
56:38 <Steven> OH MY GOD!  i am so gonna... i dont even know!
56:38 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-04-09 18:53 341 Snickers
56:38 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-04-09 17:42 349 Khazaran
56:38 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-04-09 17:35 289 Mort
56:38 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2012-04-09 12:05 395 Dode
56:40 <Mort-> Unfortunately i don't really get the joke 
56:56 <Avatar> I didn't finish updating buck
57:00 <Steven> Sam and i are going back and forth about dinner
57:01 <Avatar> and I might make some changes to snickers
57:08 <Mort-> Maybe that's one problem with a girl playing
57:22 <Avatar> spending 12000gp on that upgrade to a +4 headband might be overkill
57:24 <MekkisScreen> if you're going to organise a special, I'd recommend Year of the Shadow Lodge over Blood over Absalom
57:30 <Steven> she wants some steak and potatoe type dinner
57:35 <Avatar> do you have a second GM who can run it
57:36 <Steven> i want pasta
57:41 <MekkisScreen> Avatar, get the broom!
57:55 <Steven> she literally just said this
57:56 <Steven> i dont even know how to describe it any further
57:57 <Avatar> the broom doesn't work for a witch with a flight hex
58:05 <Mort-> Special
58:06 <Steven> "You know what the best part about my vagina?"
58:07 <Mort-> ?
58:09 <Mort-> Ok skip it lol
58:14 * Mort- is nervous
58:22 <Avatar> Mort-: it's like a scenario, except people play it on multiple tables
58:27 <Brunius> I dunno, Steven, what is the best part about your vagina?
58:28 <Steven> "I get to lord it over you.  Steak and mashed potatoes!"
58:31 <MekkisScreen> well.. get something interesting...
58:48 <Brunius> Refuse to give in, Steven
58:52 <MekkisScreen> rather than just getting more pluses
58:52 <Steven> mekkis dont you have a local shop you can go pound out two scenarios real fast?
59:20 <Avatar> yeah that's what I'm thinking
59:30 <MekkisScreen> like Itzamna did
59:34 <Avatar> haha
59:37 <Thelen> Inspamana?
59:40 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate wonder
59:41 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 74:  Fireball at target or 100 ft. straight ahead 6d6 damage (Reflex DC 15 half ).
59:41 <Mort-> I heard that its nervous work
59:47 <Avatar> you got the best interesting item
59:51 <Steven> brb, gotta check to see if we have any steak ill choke down.  I hate steak!
59:53 <MekkisScreen> thanks
59:57 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate wonder
59:57 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 77:  Fireball at target or 100 ft. straight ahead 6d6 damage (Reflex DC 15 half ).
59:57 <Mort-> Sorry lol i can't really stand that stuff
00:01 <Avatar> there is nothing even close to that
00:09 <Avatar> not the broom, not even for a witch
00:11 <Brunius> !reincarnate wonder
00:12 <diebot> Brunius, Roll: 68:  Reduce wielder two size categories (no save) for 1 day.
00:19 <Brunius> Hurrah!
00:19 <Avatar> I never get close to using up all my flight
00:25 <Thelen> hahaha
00:31 <Avatar> 6 minutes may as well be forever
00:32 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate wonder
00:32 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 45:  Lightning bolt (70 ft. long 5 ft. wide) 6d6 damage(Reflex DC 15 half ).
00:36 <Thelen> yea snickers was too busy eating
01:00 <Avatar> snickers' concept isn't actually fly constantly anyway
01:07 <Avatar> actually to* fly constantly
01:33 <MekkisScreen> avatar, snickers should have a nonmagical broom she flies on anyway
02:09 <Thelen> wow i've done most of s3 as well
02:11 <Avatar> too cumbersome
02:16 <MekkisScreen> really?
02:17 <Avatar> my str is garbage 
02:22 <Thelen> :(
02:24 <Avatar> I can barely carry what I have now
02:27 <Steven> im thinkin.... 3hr nap
02:31 <MekkisScreen> get a light broom
02:49 <Avatar> show me a book that has a description for a ilght broom
02:52 <Avatar> light* broom
02:57 <MekkisScreen> core rules
03:11 <MekkisScreen> masterwork sweeping tool
03:17 <MekkisScreen> 590gp
03:24 <MekkisScreen> 50gp*
03:29 <Mort-> Very funny
03:32 <Mort-> Mek!
03:33 <Thelen> LOL
03:34 <Avatar> cmon
03:35 <Steven> wake up right before sam gets home
03:44 <MekkisScreen> what?
03:45 <Brunius> Haha
03:51 <Avatar> it's more of a spell component
04:00 <Mort-> Ill skip the flight thing
04:03 <MekkisScreen> Grolschmir has masterwork seceturs
04:04 <Avatar> if we're going to talk categories
04:11 <Mort-> I'm more or less human on the ground
04:32 <MekkisScreen> what tool would snickers want to buy?
04:36 <Mort-> I don't drink alcohol in rl :p
04:51 <Steven> yeah
05:00 <Steven> thats probably a good thing
05:02 <Steven> guess im eating steak
05:10 <Avatar> boots
05:16 <Steven> i keep trying to stop and then my brother brings me beers or sam wants to go to a bar
05:19 <MekkisScreen> of?
05:25 <Avatar> masterwork tool
05:25 <Thelen> Steven u need sex that badly?
05:29 <Avatar> masterwork boots
05:31 <Steven> and then its a waste not to ya know.
05:32 <Steven> no
05:42 <Steven> but ide like to have sex again sometime soon
05:57 <MekkisScreen> I thought you were still talking magic items to buy
06:05 <Steven> alright nap time.  see you all when i wake up, have a great night!
06:09 <Avatar> I am, but you are talking about brooms
06:20 <Avatar> snickers wants a headband +4
06:24 <Avatar> but I am thinking differently
06:38 <Mort-> Ok
06:44 <Steven> im thinking
06:58 <MekkisScreen> if you want to be flying on a broom, and you have the flight hex, buying a broom is a great flavour choice
07:12 <Steven> im going to trick her
07:27 <Steven> Steak and Gorgonzola pasta
07:32 <Mort-> He can't carry that thing
07:40 <MekkisScreen> sure she can
07:43 <Brunius> Steven: Mash the pasta
07:43 <Avatar> I would need a belt of str to carry the thing
07:43 <Steven> w/ some roasted red potatoes
07:49 <Hydrazine> a broom?
07:56 <Hydrazine> are you that limited on carry limit?
07:57 <Avatar> yeah I'm bleeding with a 7 str
08:01 <Steven> bwahahahahahahaha
08:02 <MekkisScreen> buy some extradimentional storage space?
08:02 <Brunius> 7 Str?
08:04 <Brunius> Why?
08:04 <Hydrazine> jeez.
08:07 <Avatar> 8 str with that masterwork backpack
08:07 <Steven> shes gonna be so annoyed when she gets home
08:08 <Hydrazine> Unload stuff on Jerus.
08:16 <Avatar> I don't always play with jerus
08:17 <Steven> she hates when i trick her into eating pasta..
08:19 <MekkisScreen> handy haversack
08:27 <Hydrazine> Bag of holding.
08:29 <Avatar> I did consider the haversack
08:31 <MekkisScreen> bag of holding
08:33 <Avatar> I'd never buy holding
08:33 <Mort-> How much does it carry
08:33 <Steven> but seriously... what kind of crazy person doesnt like pasta?
08:41 <Mort-> I want the bag of holding!
08:43 <MekkisScreen> mort: enough
08:48 <Avatar> the thing is if I don't consider the broom, I don't need a haversack
08:56 <Avatar> I don't care that much about a broom
09:00 <Brunius> Why not?
09:04 <Avatar> just don't
09:08 <Avatar> snickers can fly without one
09:09 <MekkisScreen> until you need to carry 7 days of rations...
09:18 <Brunius> Ring of Sustenance!
09:19 <Avatar> it'd be nice if it actually did something
09:20 <MekkisScreen> Avatar, it's a flavour thing
09:27 <MekkisScreen> it can
09:29 <Avatar> snickers already has plenty of flavour, okay
09:43 <MekkisScreen> John disagrees
09:46 <Avatar> she is bursting with fruit flavour
10:39 <Avatar> sorry, is john the be-all end-all on flavour
10:50 <Avatar> why would you even say that
10:51 <Brunius> Yep.
11:07 <Brunius> He was playing the best Ulfen at Immortal Conundrum
11:19 <Avatar> I don't know about that
11:24 <Avatar> have you seen matt play his
11:33 <Brunius> Nah
11:37 <Avatar> I have seen some impressive ulfens
11:38 * Ausk is the most flavorful person in the room.
11:38 <Brunius> Was Matt at Conquest?
11:43 <Brunius> :P
11:45 <Avatar> no, he was at arcanacon though
11:54 <Brunius> Yeah I know he was at Arcanacon
11:57 <Brunius> He DMed for us
12:02 <Brunius> While you ran away screaming
12:08 <Avatar> I didn't scream
12:12 <Avatar> but I ran
12:14 <Brunius> You ran away though
12:17 <Avatar> I ran fast
12:19 <Avatar> like the wind
12:50 <Avatar> everytime I have a lot of money to spend I look at the rings again and again I'm bitterly disappointed 
13:04 <Avatar> the only really decent one to get is protection
13:43 <Thelen> yea +2 is nice
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14:01 <Jumpy142> So, how does fame/prestige work?
14:19 <Brunius> Thelen: What's Hitomi's AC like?
14:28 <Thelen> 25
14:35 <Brunius> At level 6 or 7?
14:38 <Thelen> 7
14:43 <Thelen> pisses me off you can increase to hit but not ac
14:45 <Mekkis> Steven, why would I do that?
14:47 <Thelen> its been 25 since lvl 5
15:04 <Thelen> i literally cannot get any more ac without lots of money
15:16 <Brunius> Ring of Protection?
15:18 <Thelen> have it
15:20 <Thelen> +2
15:20 <Brunius> Amulet of Natural Armour?
15:26 <Thelen> yea i can get that
15:56 <Brunius> ??Bairaq
15:58 <Avatar> I asked the other day about how you would go about jamming a door
16:04 <Avatar> with like a doorstop
16:10 <Mort-> Shove cupboards on it
16:14 <Avatar> I got some really dumb answer, but there's actually an item for it
16:18 <Avatar> key of lock jamming, 400gp
16:23 <Mort-> Close
16:28 <Brunius> There's a wooden doorstop somewhere
16:37 <Brunius> They've been around since OD&D
16:41 <Hydrazine> Theres spikes too.
16:49 <Mort-> I have idea.
16:50 <Avatar> oh sorry, pitons
16:57 <Avatar> that was the answer I got, which isn't bad at all
16:57 <Mort-> Shove jerus against door
17:14 <Mort-> Conveniently i have hammer and pitons :p
17:18 <Brunius> !define global Bairaq: Bairaq has very tanned skin, and you can tell he's a paladin from the way he holds himself. He's got a slightly crooked nose, and looks like it's been that way for a while - this, combined with the well crafted plates of armour covering his body, and the greatsword at his side, encourage the average person not to mess with him - even if he is a champion of good. PFS number 22870-5
17:19 <diebot> Brunius, Bairaq has very tanned skin, and you can tell he's a paladin from the way he holds himself. He's got a slightly crooked nose, and looks like it's been that way for a while - this, combined with the well crafted plates of armour covering his body, and the greatsword at his side, encourage the average person not to mess with him - even if he is a champion of good. PFS number 22870-5 defined as ??Bairaq
18:22 <Hydrazine> an iron spike costs 5cp.
18:29 <Brunius> I think he might have you confused with Hydrazine
18:48 <Brunius> Hydrazine can't make the Sniper game
19:04 <Thelen> jamming doors shouldn't cost money
19:31 <Ausk> so how would you jam it for free then thelen?
19:33 <Hydrazine> I agree that thats something that should be capable with random crap you find lying around.
19:37 <Avatar> what book is iron spike in
19:39 <Thelen> yes Hydrazine
19:48 <Brunius> Core I think
19:49 <Mort-> Take out dungeoneering kit with hammer and pitons
19:54 <Mort-> Start hammering
19:54 <Hydrazine> AA
19:58 <Mort-> Ok
20:00 <Brunius> Huh, is it?
20:06 <Brunius> I should really re-read AA
20:06 <Mort-> He declined already?
20:24 <Ausk> ill be back in an hour, im going to prep the steak
20:32 <Ausk> or maybe less
20:34 <Mort-> Uh can someone explain to him?
20:37 <Ausk> i dont think it will take an hour
20:44 <Brunius> Yeah he has
20:45 <Hydrazine> I'm a bit annoyed that it doesn't look like theres much rules about how to use manacles.
20:48 <Mort-> I'm not too good with that kind of thing
20:50 <Mort-> :(
20:50 <Brunius> Hydrazine has declined the invitation.
20:50 <Brunius>   Comment: I don't have a level 5+
20:59 * Mort- is sad
21:45 <Brunius> What would you be looking for?
22:03 <Avatar> there you go, iron spikes
22:10 <Thelen> surely manacles just requires someone to be pinned
22:15 <Hydrazine> We just lost to a severely overfed Xerath.
22:24 <Hydrazine> I'd say so, Thelen, but I can't actually find anything clear about it.
22:31 <Hydrazine> Pinned or helpless.
22:31 <Hydrazine> And solotop olaf fed yorick pretty ahrd too.
22:36 <Mort-> What?
22:38 <Mort-> Is that
22:41 <Hydrazine> Or voluntary, for whatever reason.
23:00 * Mort- jaw drops open
23:05 <Thelen> right
23:07 <Hydrazine> So whats the actual effect of iron spikes?
23:08 <Thelen> what is the order
23:13 <Thelen> grappled, pinned, helpless?
23:15 <Hydrazine> Treat a door as locked, if you spike it shut?
23:26 <Hydrazine> grappled, pinned. helpless comes after, if you tie them up.
23:31 <Thelen> right
23:44 <Hydrazine> Steven will get it.
23:48 <Hydrazine> But I'd argue that tying them up and manacle-ing them are more or less the same sort of action.
23:50 <Mort-> Point is to get him helpless to cdg
23:51 <Avatar> umm
23:51 <Mort-> Are you ok with sewer dungeons of abs on Sunday?
23:52 <Thelen> manacled is a bit different to tied up thought
23:55 <Avatar> it's under grappling
24:00 <Brunius> ofc
24:01 <Avatar> you can "tie up" someone with manacles
24:07 <Mort-> Unfortunately he went for a 3 h catnap
24:08 <Mort-> Ropes are too easy to break
24:09 <Thelen> but for purposes of simplicity
24:13 <Thelen> they are the same
24:18 <Thelen> should be*
24:24 <Hydrazine> Show me, Avatar?
24:37 <Hydrazine> I got my core rulebook open to grappling currently.
24:38 <Avatar> it doesn't specifically reference manacles
24:43 <Hydrazine> ...Exactly?
24:44 <Avatar> but that's clearly the gist
25:00 <Hydrazine> Okay, so heres a question.
25:14 <Hydrazine> While my tetori is grappling/pinning someone..
25:31 <Hydrazine> his CMB is applied to concentration checks the victim takes to cast spells.
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25:45 <Hydrazine> If I tie someone up, and let go, can they cast without concentration checks?
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26:19 <Avatar> that does get a bit fuzzy
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26:23 <Avatar> how much hand movement do you need
26:25 <Avatar> probably not I'd say
26:30 <Avatar> you'd need still spell for it
26:33 <Hydrazine> Lets say its a still spell.
26:40 <Hydrazine> You need still spell to cast while pinned.
26:40 <Avatar> with still spell, definitely
26:50 <Hydrazine> But even the still spell, while grappled, has the concentration check.
26:58 <Hydrazine> If its not a still spell, you can't even try.
27:06 <Hydrazine> Hey Mort, my sunburn's looking better.
27:08 <Hydrazine> Didn't peel.
27:16 <Avatar> isn't that because he's being constantly interfered with
27:29 <Avatar> like grappling could be a hand over his mouth or something
27:52 <Mort-> Lucky bastard.
28:02 <Avatar> honestly I'm reaching, because I would've thought it'd be okay to cast while grappled with still spell
28:07 <Mort-> I peeled the last time it happened to me :(
28:15 <Mort-> I lost my fur :(
28:16 <Avatar> unless it's like you're being hit
28:24 <Hydrazine> Even SLAs take the concentration check.
28:25 <Avatar> where you do have to make a concentration check with or without still spell
28:31 <Hydrazine> Which don't have verbal or somatics.
28:31 <Mort-> No because he has you clamped up in knots
28:46 <Hydrazine> So, I would say still/silent spells do too, agree?
28:59 <Mort-> Its a bit hard to focus on your magic if he is bending you backwards
29:06 <Mort-> Its probably pretty painful too.
29:18 <Avatar> yeah the tied up rules in general are pretty ho hum aren't they
29:25 <Hydrazine> A bit.
29:38 <Avatar> it says technically they are still pinned
29:43 <Avatar> when they are tied up
29:49 <Hydrazine> Yes. By the ropes.
29:57 <Avatar> with manacles that would apply even less
30:14 <Avatar> GM discretion there I think
30:16 <Hydrazine> So would you say I could let go and still inflict those concentration checks?
30:33 <Brunius> You don't have fur.
30:38 <Brunius> You never had fur.
30:49 <Avatar> on a still speller
31:03 <Mort-> ::
31:14 <Hydrazine> And while it seems all of us here take the meaning of tie up to include manacles, the rules don't particularly point to it.
31:15 <Avatar> ?pinned
31:15 <dicebot> A pinned creature is tightly bound and can take few actions. A pinned creature cannot move and is flat-footed. A pinned character also takes an additional -4 penalty to his Armor Class. A pinned creature is limited in the actions that it can take. A pinned creature can always attempt to free itself, usually through a combat maneuver check or Escape Artist check. A pinned creature can take verbal and mental actions, but cannot cast any spells that
31:15 <dicebot>  require a somatic or material component. A pinned character who attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 10 + grappler's CMB + spell level) or lose the spell. Pinned is a more severe version of grappled, and their effects do not stack.
31:30 <Avatar> tightly bound
31:41 <Avatar> manacles don't tightly bind you
31:59 <Avatar> that probably suggests they don't even get the full effect of being pinned
32:01 <Hydrazine> So what do they do?
32:04 <Avatar> ?grappled
32:04 <dicebot> A grappled creature is restrained by a creature, trap, or effect. Grappled creatures cannot move and take a -4 penalty to Dexterity. A grappled creature takes a -2 penalty on all attack rolls and combat maneuver checks, except those made to grapple or escape a grapple. In addition, grappled creatures can take no action that requires two hands to perform. A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 10 + gr
32:04 <dicebot> appler's CMB + spell level), or lose the spell. Grappled creatures cannot make attacks of opportunity. A grappled creature cannot use Stealth to hide from the creature grappling it, even if a special ability, such as hide in plain sight, would normally allow it to do so. If a grappled creature becomes invisible, through a spell or other ability, it gains a +2 circumstance bonus on its CMD to avoid being grappled, but receives no other benefit.
32:06 <Mort-> I need a lemur suit
32:33 <Avatar> maybe give they would keep the grappled condition
32:54 <Avatar> which does say they need to make concentration checks
32:58 <Hydrazine> yes it does.
33:09 <Avatar> so I'd say yes they do
33:14 <Hydrazine> You don't think manacles = tied?
33:24 <Avatar> the wording says tightly bound
33:29 <Avatar> and I think that's fair enough
33:37 <Hydrazine> "Manacles can bind a Medium creature"
33:40 <Avatar> depends how hardcore you manacle them as well I guess
34:03 <Avatar> I don't mean by type of lock I mean by just how restricted is their movement?
34:20 <Hydrazine> If it takes either a phenomenal strength check to break, or an escape artist to get out of.. I'd say pretty damn restricted.
34:36 <Avatar> that's to get out of it
34:51 <Hydrazine> But see what I mean, that manacles aren't particularly ruled well?
35:04 <Hydrazine> Because it isn't clear if its the same as being tied. If you can move.
35:05 <Avatar> I think most people would ask why not just use rope
35:14 <Avatar> for the str checks
35:16 <Hydrazine> Easier to break or cut.
35:16 <Avatar> ?
35:27 <Avatar> use a chain
35:35 <Hydrazine> How do you tie a chain?
35:47 <Avatar> same way you use a rope, except with a lock
37:09 <Hydrazine> So your ruling is that chain+lock = rope for the purposes of tying up an enemy?
37:19 <Hydrazine> But manacles don't?
37:33 <Avatar> they need to be 'tightly' bound
37:41 <Avatar> chain will do it, manacles won't
38:12 <Avatar> manacles would keep them grappled, but it wouldn't pin them
38:18 <Brunius> Why not?
38:35 <Avatar> it doesn't make sense
38:37 <Brunius> I get three pairs - one for their legs, one for their arms, one for securing the legs to the arms
38:52 <Avatar> if you can get creative with how you manacle them it might qualify
38:53 <Hydrazine> So what penalties do manacles apply?
39:04 <Avatar> the grappled condition would apply
39:08 <Hydrazine> Can they attack? Move normal speed? Roll on the ground?
39:19 <Avatar> ?grappled
39:20 <dicebot> A grappled creature is restrained by a creature, trap, or effect. Grappled creatures cannot move and take a -4 penalty to Dexterity. A grappled creature takes a -2 penalty on all attack rolls and combat maneuver checks, except those made to grapple or escape a grapple. In addition, grappled creatures can take no action that requires two hands to perform. A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 10 + gr
39:20 <dicebot> appler's CMB + spell level), or lose the spell. Grappled creatures cannot make attacks of opportunity. A grappled creature cannot use Stealth to hide from the creature grappling it, even if a special ability, such as hide in plain sight, would normally allow it to do so. If a grappled creature becomes invisible, through a spell or other ability, it gains a +2 circumstance bonus on its CMD to avoid being grappled, but receives no other benefit.
39:27 <Hydrazine> Is there any official ruling on it?
39:35 <Avatar> no this is just how I would rule it
39:55 <Avatar> if you find something official, I'd be happy to follow that
40:02 <Brunius> http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/internet-memes-bear-grylls-loves-tasting-rainbows.jpg
40:08 <Avatar> but I didn't think there was anything
40:28 <Hydrazine> So your ruling, manacles apply grappled. Does this include the inability to move and swing 2 handed weapons, and cast spells?
41:40 <Avatar> you'd probably want to manacle their wrist to their ankle
41:43 <Hydrazine> or rather, concentration checks. What sort of DC?
41:51 <Avatar> obviously if you just manacle their wrists, they're going to be able to move
41:57 <Avatar> you have to use commonsense as well
42:41 <Brunius> I don't know what's worth fighting for, or why I have to scream
43:31 <Avatar> I mean does it sound like this is an unfair call
43:49 <Mort-> Linkin park breaking the habit
44:10 <Mort-> I'm currently into listening to what I've done by linkin park
44:17 <Avatar> you're asking for hard and fast rules that don't exist, but I'm trying to work out how I would imagine it happening
44:25 <Avatar> I'd want you to be descriptive in how you use them
45:12 <Brunius> I'll face myself
45:18 <Brunius> And cross out what I've beeecome
45:37 <Mort-> I think you need 2 manacles
45:53 <Mort-> Chain one foot to a hand and chain the other foot to a hand
45:58 <Mort-> Yeah
46:09 <Mort-> Or do manacles come in pairs
48:06 <Brunius> Single i think
58:43 <Hydrazine> Avatar, thank you for this discussion.
58:51 <Avatar> :)
58:55 <Hydrazine> Just want to make it known that I appreciate it.
59:27 <Avatar> it's an interesting thing to talk about
02:02 <Avatar> gauntlet of rust is a pretty sexy item for a fighter type
02:53 <Brunius> They're revamping faction missions in season 4
02:55 <Brunius> Thank god
03:10 <Brunius> They've been making such little sense recently
03:37 <Avatar> necklace of adaptation might be good
03:53 <Avatar> they're killing off 3 factions
04:12 <Avatar> quite a bit of talk about which ones they will be
12:21 * Mort- feels sleepy and takes a nap
13:36 <MekkisScreen> what should I name my ship?
13:56 <Hydrazine> Falcon PAUNCH
14:00 <Avatar> titanic
14:07 <Hydrazine> The Heisenburg
15:24 <Brunius> The Saint Nazare
15:35 <Mort-> Ship.
15:54 <Hydrazine> Jon Snow's Mother.
16:26 <Mort-> Where is your ship
16:39 <Mort-> If its brus campaign its our ship!
18:56 <Mort-> The milineum falcon
19:15 <Mort-> Now i bet i mispelt han solos ship
19:24 <Brunius> Millenium Falcon
19:41 <Mort-> Oh
47:34 <MekkisScreen> I'm thinking "The Silver Corsair"
50:10 <Mort-> Isn't corsair another name for pirate?
50:43 <Mort-> If its in brus campaign - i don't want to explain to the authorities every time we dock.
51:02 <Mort-> Never gets old to name your tavern/ship after some animal
03:32 <Forevernade> who here GMs?
04:18 * Mort- points randomly around
04:36 * Mort- goes back to napping
12:27 <MekkisScreen> I do.
12:45 <MekkisScreen> some others do...
14:43 <Brunius> I do indeed possess the capability of doing so
16:13 * Mort- looks at her dusty hat and sighs. Probably easier that way.
17:46 <Mort-> I hate rainy days
17:59 <Mort-> Makes me feel sweepy
18:15 <MekkisScreen> mwgt: it isn't for brunius' campaign
18:32 <Mort-> Works then?
18:38 <Mort-> Xanians ship?
18:57 <Mort-> !rng avatar mek bru hydra
18:57 <diebot> Mort-, avatar
19:02 <MekkisScreen> the Grey Corsairs are the Andoran Navy's ships...
19:11 * Mort- takes a nap on avatar
19:31 <MekkisScreen> full of people who attack slavers
19:45 <MekkisScreen> it's for Itzamna's ship
19:55 <Mort-> Uh huh.
20:08 <Mort-> Free all the slaves!
20:13 <Mort-> Can i buy them over?
20:30 <Mort-> Then free them. Pay them wages to work for me
20:38 <Mort-> to create magical trinkets!
20:52 <MekkisScreen> if you want to buy them
21:05 <MekkisScreen> I can sell you them
21:14 <Mort-> Ill set them free.
21:14 <MekkisScreen> then you can free them
21:36 <Mort-> They can do as they choose but ill offer them a chance to work for me.
22:01 <Mort-> Now is it possible to imbue spells into trinkets?
22:40 <Mort-> What would be good for close range defense..hm.
22:50 <Mort-> Probably sleep but its one round casting time
22:56 <Mort-> Vanish!
23:31 <Mort-> Wonderful. Got somewhere you ever felt like hiding into the ground?
23:42 <Mort-> Vanish ring does it for you :p
23:44 <Brunius> Isn't a decent shiplike 20k
23:53 <MekkisScreen> or 10 prestige
23:58 <Brunius> Ah
24:06 <MekkisScreen> then it comes with a crew
24:08 <Brunius> Faction Limited?
24:12 <MekkisScreen> nope
24:15 <Brunius> Sweet
24:23 <Brunius> I know what Kusuma's getting
24:42 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: are there factions in your campaign?
25:00 <Brunius> tbh I'm not even sure if my campaign is going to go ahead at this point
25:08 <Brunius> I might end up running skull & shackles
25:12 <MekkisScreen> like the wonderseekers
25:22 <MekkisScreen> ah ok
26:14 <Mort-> I personally think there are social occasions you might want to vanish off really
26:16 <Mort-> Hm
26:37 <Mort-> Colour spray would be uh too flashy.
27:05 <Mort-> I actually wanted something that noble ladies could use to deal with unpleasant situations
27:43 <Mort-> Scare might be a good one too
27:58 <Mort-> Someone grabs you. You put it on him.
28:24 <Mort-> Again some silly prankster might use it to wreck havoc
30:02 <Mort-> Somehow i don't think giving a commoner the ability to colour spray would work well...
38:26 <Mort-> Could do a fred and george weasley joke shop.
41:13 <Mort-> At minmum caster level on level 1 spells it quelp
41:17 <Mort-> Sucks
55:13 <Hydrazine> hi
55:42 <Mort-> Your supposed to be in bed
55:47 * Mort- protests
57:11 <Mort-> What would be a good self defense level 1 spell
57:21 <Mort-> Minmum fuss please.
58:03 <Brunius> isn't mage armour level 1?
58:55 <Mort-> Its more on the line off get this guy out of my sight
59:05 <Mort-> Vanish is nice. But too short duration
59:24 <Mort-> Mage armour is combative
59:32 <Mort-> Was considering cause fear
59:41 <Mort-> This is pure fluff
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08:04 <Mekkis> you know what we need
08:24 <Mekkis> more scenarios set in factional regional locations
09:00 <Brunius> Yeah
09:40 <Jumpy142> oh yeah hey guys, what do people do with fame/that other thing?
10:05 <Mekkis> Fame lets you buy more expensive magical stuff
10:14 <Mekkis> prestige pays for your raise deads
10:23 <Mekkis> Read the guide
10:25 <Mekkis> it's all in there
10:36 <Avatar> Jumpy142: the first thing you buy with prestige is a wand of either cure light wounds or infernal healing
10:45 <Avatar> it's 2 prestige, and you're responsible for your own heals
10:46 <Jumpy142> ah ok
11:04 <Avatar> the wand is 750gp, hand it to your friendly neighbourhood healer
11:11 <Mekkis> or UMD
11:30 <Jumpy142> UMD?
11:40 <Mekkis> abUse Magic Device
11:40 <Avatar> use magic device
11:44 <Avatar> but that's not much help at level 1
11:54 <Jumpy142> lol
12:33 <Mekkis> Brunius, did you run The Beggar's Pearl?
12:41 <Brunius> Yes
13:15 <Mekkis> there are no high-level scenarios set in Andoran
13:22 <Mekkis> Grolschmir is sad
13:29 <Brunius> And Beggar's Pearl is set a fair way out
13:31 <Avatar> probably for the best
13:37 <Brunius> It's in the middle of some mountains...
13:40 <Mekkis> yeah
13:44 <Mekkis> but it's in Andoran
14:29 <Mekkis> I mean, Osirion gets a bunch of stuff at 5-9 and 7-11
15:02 <Mekkis> Cheliax gets one 1-7, a bunch of 7-11s, and a 12
15:26 <Mekkis> Qadira gets 1-5s, a 1-7 and some 5-9s
15:48 <Mort-> I like your term mek
16:00 <Mekkis> Taldor gets a bunch of 1-7s, and a 5-9
16:05 <Mort-> Some use infernal healing
16:21 <Mekkis> but Andoran only gets 1-5s and 1-7s
16:24 * Mort- snickers
16:36 <Mekkis> I wouldn't encourage Infernal Healing
17:24 <Mort-> Yeah there is a nasty caveat
17:26 <Jumpy142> so what actually *is* the Pathfinder Society? Ingame?
17:34 <Mort-> To turning over to the dark side
17:55 <Mekkis> Jumpy142, The Pathfinder Society is an organisation of adventurers
18:05 <Mort-> Sadly. No evil characters in pfs around
18:21 <Mort-> Most of us act like farmboys on their first fight
18:23 <Mekkis> they generally believe that knowledge should be gathered, stored, and distributed if it's safe.
18:39 <Mekkis> Unfortunately, most of you don't grow up :S
18:55 <Mort-> Thanks mek.
19:22 <Mort-> There was all this good/evil debate
19:35 <Mort-> Going on about infernal healing
19:37 <Mort-> Anyway
19:44 <Mekkis> I must have missed it
19:50 <Mekkis> if it was on the boards, I probably did
19:53 <Mort-> It was. Out there
19:57 <Mort-> On the boards
20:29 <Mort-> Ah well. There is the friendly neighbourhood healer
20:50 <Mekkis> I dislike what they've done to infernal healing
20:56 <Mort-> And abuse magic device
21:00 <Mort-> What did they do
21:18 <Mekkis> well
21:47 <Mort-> Oh the. I don't need to worship asmodeus bit?
21:55 <Mekkis> in its first printing (Gods and Magic), when Deceased "Collateral Damage" Estate took it, it was only available to worshippers of Asmodeus.
22:12 <Mort-> Well ok
22:26 <Mort-> Feel cheated you sold your soul to him? :p
22:33 <Avatar> in that case I like what they did to it
22:34 <Mekkis> so it was really a conscious roleplaying decision to use it
22:46 <Mort-> Don't worry. I'm still trying to find out who i sold my soul too
22:47 <Mekkis> yeah, but I know how much you roleplay, Avatar 
22:49 <Mort-> To
23:01 <Avatar> I'm roleplaying
23:04 <Mort-> I'm not really sure
23:04 <Avatar> I just detect as evil
23:08 <Avatar> that's okay by me
23:51 <Mekkis> I thought it portrayed the whole "Worship Asmodeus for great power" concept quite well
23:52 <Mort-> Told you i wanted a demon
24:00 <Mort-> But you said devils were better
24:10 <Mekkis> rather than "well, it's better than CLW, so I took it"
24:18 <Mort-> Come on. Can't some other devil give it to you?
25:37 <Mort-> I suppose if good aligned characters resist it
25:55 <Mort-> I will get to do it more conventionally
26:11 <Mekkis> Mort-, fyi, if you were to worship Asmodeus, you'd need to be LN, LE or NE
26:20 <Mort-> Ah
26:24 <Avatar> I think it should be for 8 rounds than 10 rounds to balance it out with CLW
26:31 <Mort-> But by the time i looked the guide over
26:33 <Ballig> you don't need a roleplay reason for every spell you c hoose
26:35 <Mort-> It wasn't
26:39 <Ballig> it opens up options for roleplay, but doesn't have to
26:50 <Avatar> or maybe even 5 or 6 rounds
26:51 <Mort-> It has its draw backs
27:00 <Mort-> Like idiots on silver weapons
27:15 <Mort-> Actually. I do carry a silver weapon around.
27:17 <Ballig> yeah I will be giving all NPCs silvered weapons in PFS from now on !
27:17 <Ballig> ha ha ha !
27:30 <Mort-> Then ill do it differently
28:14 <Mort-> What worries me most is falling to the dark side
28:24 <Mort-> Oh well.
30:13 <Mekkis> I shall have to make a big dumb paladin
34:08 <Avatar> I shall have to not play my characters with you
37:25 <Mekkis> means more roleplaying at the tables I play at. That's a good thing, right? :P
37:45 <Ballig> stop being condescending
38:07 <Ballig> you can play the way you like, and he can play the way he likes
39:20 <Brunius> Ballig, he's received requests from the community
39:31 <Brunius> And in PFS, the community matters :P
39:42 <Ballig> who's received requests from the community?
40:09 <Brunius> Mekkis said he had been asked to request that Thelen, tristen and Avatar RP more.
40:13 <Brunius> Or something to that effect
40:20 <Ballig> sounds like bullshit to me
40:28 <Avatar> what?
40:40 <Avatar> who was the community
40:49 <Ballig> and one person who wants someone to roleplay more is not "the community"
40:52 <Brunius> Steven, John etc.
41:01 <Ballig> it's another person trying to push their view of the game onto other people
41:04 <Ballig> everyone gets different things from the game
41:08 <Mekkis> them specifically
41:15 <Ballig> to say that what YOU get from the game is inherently better, and more right, than what someone else gets from the game is obnoxious
41:32 <Avatar> man if I were being made to roleplay more than I already do, I would enjoy the game less
41:36 <Ballig> and if specific people want someone to roleplay more they can talk to them about it directly
41:39 <Ballig> not assume that you are the boss of everyone
42:11 <Avatar> like what are you asking me to do exactly
42:13 <Ballig> you guys are all weirdos
42:41 <Ballig> my assumption is that what actually happened was Mekkis brought up the fact that he feels Avatar, Thelen and Tristen don't roleplay much
42:46 <Ballig> and John and Steven probably agreed that it appears that way
42:54 <Mekkis> actually, that wasn't the case
42:59 <Ballig> that does not even remotely equate to "John and Steven asked me to tell you to roleplay more"
43:06 <Mekkis> if that was the case, I wouldn't have brought it up
43:10 <Mekkis> John brought it up
43:12 <Ballig> yes you would have
43:35 <Ballig> you like to swing the roleplay stick, anything that you think gives it weight will be used
45:38 * Mort- bites ballig
45:54 <Ballig> I'm going to need a rabies shot now
46:18 <Mort-> Insanity is best shared!
46:20 <Brunius> You realise it's a RPG, Ballig
46:27 <Brunius> You know what that stands for?
46:28 <Mort-> Welcome to the dark side!
46:50 <Ballig> Brunius: as I said, everyone gets something different from the game
46:59 <Ballig> if some people are more into the "game" part of RPG than the "roleplaying" part of it, that's up to them
47:08 <Ballig> to force the aspects that you enjoy most onto other people is the height of rudeness
47:12 <Ballig> and absolutely closed-minded
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51:54 <Avatar> Mekkis: actually, here's a point
52:01 <Avatar> you must think I roleplay
52:14 <Avatar> because apparently snickers did something to lead your character on into thinking she is part of shadow lodge
57:38 <Mekkis> she did
58:21 <Ballig> seems like pretty powerful roleplaying to me
58:25 <Mekkis> no
58:36 <Mekkis> it seems like it's "asking for help with a faction mission"
58:37 <Ballig> did she just say "I'm in shadow lodge"?
58:43 <Ballig> oh
58:45 <Ballig> were you metagaming
59:04 <Mekkis> she had expressed several times that she was looking for stuff to do with missing pathfinders
59:10 <Ballig> because "asking for help with a faction mission" sounds like player information
59:15 <Mekkis> which Itzamna knows is very shadow-lodge-esque
59:20 <Brunius> Mmm
59:28 <Mekkis> and that's pretty much the extent of her roleplaying
59:33 <Ballig> sounds like she was adequately roleplaying her faction
59:35 <Brunius> Make sure the grand lodge hasn't screwed with them AGAIN
59:38 <Ballig> and gave Itzamna that impression
59:49 <Avatar> anyone in the pathfinder society could be looking for evidence of lost pathfinders
59:52 <Ballig> either that or you were metagaming
00:03 <Brunius> But why are you in particular looking for it?
00:04 <Mekkis> Avatar, yes, but she wasn't doing anything ELSE
00:05 <Ballig> and I'm sure grand lodge might want to find lost pathfinders too
00:13 <Avatar> because I'm in the pathfinder society
00:25 <Ballig> I mean, it seems to me either she was adequately roleplaying or you were metagaming
00:35 <Avatar> it sounds like you thought she had to be multitasking
00:42 <Avatar> which nobody ever does with anything
00:48 <Ballig> sounds to me like your player knew that it had to be a faction mission
00:53 <Avatar> unless you're a summoner with an eidolon
00:58 <Brunius> Then again
01:01 <Ballig> I mean, in-character, couldn't it be conceivable that the VC asked her to follow it up herself?
01:12 <Ballig> just because you know OOC that that doesn't happen, doesn't mean your character wouldnt' consider it
01:28 <Mekkis> in-character, she did nothing else notable
01:38 <Ballig> so she had no other faction mission?
01:40 <Ballig> that's more metagaming
01:42 <Avatar> there was a clear reason for that
01:42 <Mekkis> and the fact that factions exist is an open secret
01:48 <Ballig> you can't go into each mission thinking "everyone has a faction mission"
01:57 <Ballig> because that's player knowledge
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02:14 <Ballig> and then to continue by thinking "she didn't do anything else out of the ordinary, therefore that was her faction mission, and the closest faction is X"
02:17 <Avatar> kestler!
02:17 <Ballig> that's clear metagaming
02:26 <Kestler> I hit it with my sword!
02:32 <Mort-> Wt?
02:33 <Avatar> and it dies
02:40 * Mort- rubs her nose
02:46 <Mort-> That wasn't nice!
02:52 * Mort- growls!
02:56 <Avatar> not you
03:03 * Mort- fluffs her fur
03:05 <Avatar> something else
03:10 * Mort- charges!
03:15 <Kestler> you guys aren't in the middle of a game are you?
03:20 <Mort-> No
03:22 <Avatar> no mort just roleplays in real life
03:30 <Mort-> i like to do this kind of stuff
03:37 <Mort-> I'm a mouse lemur
03:43 <Kestler> @___@
03:50 <Mort-> I have 4 paws and a swishy tail!
03:59 <Avatar> we are in an argument about metagaming characters knowing other character's factions
04:05 <Mekkis> Ballig, the guide does say that the pathfinder society knows that many pathfinders have faction missions. One interpretation that I like subscribing to, is that as a result, the Venture Captains like grouping the factional adventurers together, to force some cohesion.
04:09 <Mort-> I have huge black eyes and i love chocolate chip cookies
04:27 <Ballig> Mekkis: knowing that people (often) belong to factions and that those factions (often) give them tasks to complete is one thing
04:41 <Kestler> it's kind of impossible to maintain Faction secrecy, but people try and I try to respect that
04:44 <Ballig> going out of your way to say that X character only did Y thing out of the ordinary, therefore Y thing must be a faction mission and the closest faction is Z
04:49 <Ballig> is clear-cut-and-dry metagaming
04:50 <Ballig> no way around it
05:29 <Ballig> because although the world is very narrowed by a mission, it's not really that narrow
05:35 <Ballig> it could be that the pathfinders were a personal friend of Snickers
05:39 <Ballig> and she was following up on personal business
05:44 <Mort-> Who are you kestler
05:47 <Mekkis> not the way she was mentioning it
05:55 <Ballig> it could have been that the pathfinders were personal friends of ANY high level faction member, and it could have been any faction
05:55 <Kestler> There would be characters that would be very anxious about what a Chelish adventurer is doing (eg any and all halflings)
05:55 <Ballig> etc
06:04 <Ballig> there are many, many dynamic and valid reasons why she might have been doing it
06:11 <Mort-> What are you kestler
06:13 <Kestler> Mort, I'm Andrei from Conquest
06:14 <Ballig> to narrow it down to only what is actually reasonably possible in PFS is metagaming
06:19 <Mort-> Oh hi.
06:34 <Mekkis> if she didn't want me to come to that conclusion, she could have easily come up with an explanation
06:39 * Mort- feels shy and hides in a hole
06:59 <Ballig> I don't know enough about the situation to comment that far
07:02 * Mort- smells cookies on kestler though
07:06 <Ballig> but coming to that conclusion to begin with is metagaming
07:10 <Mekkis> they released a new version of Mists of Mwangi
07:10 <Ballig> something you should probably accept and admit
07:16 * Mort- sticks her nose out of the hole
07:40 <Kestler> whaaaat
07:45 <Kestler> what'd they change?
08:07 * Mort- sneaks behind kestler
08:16 <Mekkis> well... it's all Pathfinder, not 3.5 now
08:22 * Kestler hands out the cookies
08:29 <Mort-> Oh
08:36 <Ballig> Kestler: don't feed the mort
08:43 * Mort- feels ashamed of herself and returns half
08:46 <Mekkis> I probably should have checked before I ran it last month
08:50 <Avatar> yeah you don't know what you're getting yourself into
08:57 <Mort-> I was about to steal your cookies.
09:11 <Kestler> ah no it's multiplying
09:25 * Mort- is a helpful mur
09:32 <Ballig> I swear there are three people pretending to be her at the same time, sometimes
09:37 <Kestler> http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_gremlins_1b.jpg
09:47 <Ballig> she talks on IRC quicker on her mobile phone than people do at a computer
09:49 <Mekkis> is there a 64-bit windows version of inkscape?
09:52 * Mort- climbs on kestlers lap and purrs
09:55 <Brunius> Don't think so
10:04 <Mort-> I'm a single mur!
10:17 <Mort-> They have dexterous paws!
10:35 * Mekkis is trying to do the impossible
10:44 <Brunius> Which is?
11:01 <Mort-> Just tweak the settings a bit mek
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11:21 <Mort-> Or run in compatability mode?
11:24 <Mekkis> enlarge a map without making it look crap
11:27 <Kestler> Mekkis, I've met you before yeah?
11:31 <Kestler> I'm crap with name
11:32 <Brunius> Ha
11:33 <Kestler> *names
11:41 <Mort-> How did you find out about us kestler.
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11:46 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
11:48 <Brunius> GIMP scales pretty well, doesn't it?
11:56 <Kestler> Scrying spell
11:58 <Mort-> Don't worry. This is not an interogation.
11:58 <Mekkis> Kestler, you might want to PM me where you know me from
12:00 <Mort-> I see
12:01 <Avatar> I'm tony, I played snickers
12:06 <Mort-> Where is your crystal call
12:09 <Mort-> Ball
12:11 <Ballig> he was at the convention
12:22 <Ballig> you lot are a paranoid bunch
12:23 <Mort-> Sorry. Sometimes i get spelling issues on cell
12:24 <Avatar> you know tristen who played oskar and thelen who played hitomi
12:27 <Avatar> you might know brunius
12:34 <Mort-> Punctuation is not very good as well
12:59 <Kestler> ah awesome
13:19 <Mort-> What are you,
13:22 <Mort-> ?
13:34 * Mort- ponders over a kestler
13:39 <Mort-> Do you look human?
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14:27 <Kestler> http://paizo.com/people/EmmelineKestler
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15:33 <Mort-> Oh!
15:34 <Brunius> I feel like I know you from somewhere
15:37 <Mort-> Your a girl?
16:01 <Ballig> his gunslinger is a girl
16:06 * Mort- nibbles kestlers hair
16:17 <Mekkis> problem is that inkscape runs out of RAM on a 32-bit machine
16:25 <Brunius> Nice 1
16:27 <Mort-> Its ok. I can be your familiar :d
16:35 <Brunius> Can't you just run it in Linux?
16:44 <Mort-> I'm furry and fuzzy!
17:05 <Kestler> hah!
17:06 <Jumpy142> what's Linux?
17:13 <Mekkis> Brunius, I can, but the machine that's running linux doesn't have the processing power of the windows box
17:17 <Brunius> An alternative operating system
17:19 <Brunius> Dual boot
17:23 <Brunius> Boot off a live CD
17:35 <Mort-> I'm useful!
17:37 <Jumpy142> (I know what Linux is)
17:41 <Mort-> I have slas!
17:44 <Mort-> :p
18:20 Kestler is now known as KuroPoe
18:27 <Mort-> Lol
18:34 <Brunius> OHHHH
18:37 * Mort- waves
18:38 <Brunius> That's you?
18:40 * KuroPoe ruffles his feathers and caws loudly
18:56 * KuroPoe craps on your statues and drives your Honda off a cliff
19:05 * Mort- pads over to kuropoe and purrs
19:11 * KuroPoe returns to the Land of Wind and Ghosts
19:18 KuroPoe is now known as Kestler
19:20 <Mort-> Oh :(
19:25 <Kestler> urgh that one guy is a jerk
19:29 <Mort-> Lol
19:37 <Mort-> Could you get someone nice?
19:49 <Mort-> So i could hop on her shoulder
19:54 <Mort-> And be her familiar?
20:07 <Jumpy142> Ultimate rejection :P
20:21 <Mort-> Lol
20:50 <Brunius> You're the guy whose drawings "might actually be worth five dollars"?
20:53 * Mort- is looking for an innocent good aligned virgin to be a familiar to
21:59 * Kestler needs arcane caster levels
22:07 <Ballig> that's a little weird, Mort
22:16 <Kestler> nah man they're two dollar fifty cents at best
22:38 <Ballig> Brunius: are you at school this Friday?
22:42 <Mort-> Skip it for now:p
22:43 <Brunius> No?
22:46 <Brunius> Why would I be?
22:57 <Ballig> I don't know when holidays are and stuff
23:02 <Ballig> I've been out of school for 12 years
23:13 <Brunius> Easter is dead centre usually
23:16 <Mort-> Never mind kestler. Ill follow you around!
23:17 <Ballig> you haven't played We  Be Goblins, right?
23:22 <Mort-> you have cookies right?
23:28 <Mort-> Can i play again? :p
23:30 <Mort-> Lol
23:35 <Ballig> you can, but you will be at work
23:37 <Kestler> Haven't played webegobbos
23:41 <Mort-> I did all kinds of shit
23:43 <Mort-> Down there
23:46 <Mort-> No kidding
24:02 <Ballig> I'm looking at running it here 12pm Friday
24:03 <Kestler> btw, you guys know there's a new group starting in central melbourne, rite?
24:05 <Brunius> I haven't
24:16 <Brunius> That's the one Darkwhite is trying to start, yeah?
24:17 <Avatar> darkwhite vaguely mentioned it
24:24 <Avatar> didn't give any details out
24:26 <Mort-> I want to see hydra as a goblin
24:39 <Brunius> Spaceshot said he would likely show up there once it got going
24:41 <Mort-> He will make such a dashing one
25:08 <Kestler> that's because there wasn't any details. It looks like it'll start up not this weekend but next, with a round of First Steps. I'll be GMing, then Matt Goodall AKA 'One'
25:12 <Kestler> we still need another GM
25:21 <Brunius> Killer Matt?
25:26 <Brunius> This should be good
25:28 <Kestler> Killer Matt
25:44 <Avatar> I'll GM if you need another
26:02 <Kestler> whooo
26:03 <Avatar> er, what date is it
26:08 <Kestler> um your choice
26:17 <Mort-> Sometimes i think I'm missing out a lot of fun
26:24 <Kestler> 22nd april and then for the next 3 weeks it's looking like
26:25 <Brunius> You are mort-
26:32 <Mort-> Kestler. You'll never see me in real life
26:35 <Brunius> You should move to Melbourne
26:36 <Mekkis> Mort-, you are: you should organise something in singapore
26:48 <Brunius> Or that
26:49 <Mort-> I told you i don't have will
26:52 <Mekkis> if you organise a con in singapore, I'll come to GM
26:57 <Mort-> Nor charisma
27:13 <Mort-> I'm geek and nerdy remember?
27:16 <Mekkis> Mort-, it's amazing how roleplaying increases those things
27:24 <Ballig> everyone is geek and nerdy
27:25 <Mort-> Sorry. Not the event organizing sort
27:38 <Mort-> If there is a party ill join in
27:42 * Kestler casts see invisibility, sees Mort
27:59 <Mort-> Your gunslinger :p
28:06 <Mort-> How did you do that one ^^
28:21 <Mort-> I wasn't invisible to begin with
28:29 <Mort-> Just a small mouse lemur.
28:30 <Kestler> then who is....?
28:35 <Mekkis> !reincarnate wonder
28:37 <diebot> Mekkis, Roll: 94:  Shimmering colors dance and play over a 40-ft.-by-30-ft. area in front of rod. Creatures therein are blinded for 1d6 rounds (Fortitude DC 15 negates).
28:38 * Kestler is slain by Assassin
28:41 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Fri 6pm (Avatar,new game,1) / Sat 1pm (Brunius, new game 5-9) / Sun 1pm (Avatar,new game 3-7) | ED: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
28:46 <Mort-> Actually tiny would be more appropriate
28:52 <Mort-> Can't rez
28:58 <Mort-> Can only take revenge.
28:59 <Avatar> my chrome has completely killed itself
29:16 Ballig has changed the topic to: PFS: Fri 12pm (Ballig, We Be Goblins) / Fri 6pm (Avatar,new game,1) / Sat 1pm (Brunius, new game 5-9) / Sun 1pm (Avatar,new game 3-7) | ED: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
29:17 <Mort-> How do you spot a hidden creature
29:26 <Mekkis> Kestler, have you run Mists of Mwangi before?
29:39 <Brunius> Perception, Mekkis
29:41 * Mort- uses summon monster bat
29:44 <Kestler> i've played Mwangi
29:46 <Mort-> Well
29:49 <Brunius> Avatar: First problem is using chrome
29:56 <Mort-> Doing it another way haha
29:58 <Mekkis> I'm running it tomorrow
30:16 <Kestler> I work 9-5 weekdays T_T
30:25 <Kestler> yessir, day job rolls
30:27 <Mort-> Lol
30:32 <Mekkis> !dayjob +21
30:33 <diebot> Mekkis, Roll: 35 100gp
30:38 <Mort-> I can see invisibility!
30:48 <Mort-> I can make people appear too!
30:55 <Mekkis> I have 8:30-5, but I get an hour lunch break
31:06 <Mort-> Well the problem is i have to find them first :(
31:55 <Mekkis> remember last time you cast See Invisibility?
32:13 <Mekkis> someone had the impoliteness to counterspell it
32:18 <Mort-> Yeah
32:31 <Mort-> Dude how many scrolls do you expect me to bring :p
32:39 <Mort-> I shall summon bats!
32:42 <Mekkis> much less than you carry
33:06 <Brunius> Night guys
33:11 <Mort-> Lol
33:21 <Mort-> I don't bring duplicate scrolls usually
33:54 <Mekkis> they actually made the final encounter better
33:55 <Brunius> Kestler: One of my friends is interested in playing in the city, is there a mailing list going?
34:18 <Kestler> awesome, get him to message Stephen's mailing address
34:45 <Kestler> I think DarkWhite is rendezvousing with the Good Game Melbourne folks and we're just GMing and teaching rules
35:28 <Mort-> Oh
35:31 <Mort-> Rules!
35:35 <Kestler> [email protected]
35:59 <Brunius> He says he will
36:08 <Mort-> Wtb dimension door and back
37:20 <Brunius> It's quiet.
37:34 <Avatar> shut up and idle
37:43 <Avatar> on
38:48 <Brunius> I see what you did there
39:01 <Brunius> Summoner is in APG correct?
39:19 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/XDLzn.jpg
40:13 <Jumpy142> with our characters, do we need to choose a domain?
40:21 <Mekkis> only if you're playing a cleric
40:28 <Mekkis> or some types of druid
40:30 <Avatar> if your'e not a cleric, backspace that line out 
40:43 <Jumpy142> ok then
40:53 <Mort-> Screw divine casters :d
40:54 <Avatar> you can put patron there if you're a witch
41:11 <Avatar> you can really backspace anything on your sheet that you'll never use
41:28 <Avatar> for example, if you're making a fighter and you never plan to go into wizard or cleric or something, then wipe out the entire spells section
41:37 Kestler is now known as Feather
41:38 <Avatar> to keep your sheet cleaner
41:56 * Mort- nibbles feather
43:37 <Mort-> Ya
43:46 <Feather> how do i shot meme
43:51 <Feather> i mean roll dice
43:55 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20
43:56 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20: [1d20=2] 2
43:59 <Ballig> !roll 1d20
43:59 <dicebot> Ballig, 1d20: [1d20=17] 17
44:07 <Feather> !throw 1d20
44:07 <diebot> Feather, 1d20: [1d20=6] 6
44:22 <Feather> !throw 1d20 +5
44:23 <diebot> Feather, +5: [1d20=20] 20
44:24 <Ballig> !roll 3#1d20+7 claws; 3#1d8+2 damage
44:25 <dicebot> Ballig, claws: [1d20=12] 19, [1d20=4] 11, [1d20=6] 13; damage: [1d8=5] 7, [1d8=8] 10, [1d8=4] 6
44:34 <Mekkis> !fullattack tarrasque
44:35 <diebot> Mekkis, Bite: [1d20=18] 75; Bite: [4d8=5,5,5,6] 38; horns: [1d20=7] 59, [1d20=8] 60; horn: [1d10=3] 11, [1d10=2] 10; claws: [1d20=18] 70, [1d20=1] 53; claw: [1d12=11] 19, [1d12=6] 14; tail slap: [1d20=16] 68; tail slap: [3d8=5,4,1] 18
44:41 <Feather> AAAARGH
45:15 <Mekkis> one of the claws missed :S
45:39 <Feather> Can you !fullattack your own characters?
45:49 <diebot> Added or updated sheets: 391
45:49 <diebot> Bork
45:54 <Grolschmir> @charge
45:55 <diebot> Grolschmir, attack: [1d20=16] 29; damage: [3d6=1,6,3] 49
46:01 <Grolschmir> you can save that sort of thing 
46:10 <Feather> sick as bro
46:16 <Grolschmir> but !fullattack is straight from the SRD
46:34 <Ballig> not that it's ever used
46:44 <Feather> sweet
46:45 <Grolschmir> !save charge: 1d20+16 attack; 3d6+42 damage
46:47 <dicebot> Saving @charge as: 1d20+16 attack; 3d6+42 damage
46:47 <diebot> Grolschmir, 1d20+16 attack; 3d6+42 damage saved as @charge
46:52 <MekkisScreen> mort, charm person
46:56 <Feather> well either tomoro night or the night after i'll update my deets
47:02 <Feather> right now i gots to work
47:04 <Feather> seeya soon!
47:08 <Grolschmir> see you
47:46 Feather has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
47:52 <Mort-> Can wreck havoc :(
48:07 <Mekkis> A0 at 300dpi is?
48:14 <Mort-> Someone will come to the shop and abuse charm person
48:41 <Mort-> I wanted to make get out of jail free cards. Not mess the town up cards.
48:59 <Mort-> You there good sir. Activate ring. Give me all your money
49:05 <Mort-> Ops ><
49:22 <Avatar> Uptime: 3wks 1day 23hrs 42mins 26secs
49:45 <Mekkis> !history 391
49:47 <diebot> Mekkis, r223 | vpsirc | 2012-04-10 13:38:06 +0200 (Tue, 10 Apr 2012) | 1 line
49:47 <diebot> Mekkis, r220 | vpsirc | 2012-04-09 00:09:16 +0200 (Mon, 09 Apr 2012) | 1 line
49:47 <diebot> Mekkis, r219 | vpsirc | 2012-04-08 00:09:08 +0200 (Sun, 08 Apr 2012) | 1 line
49:47 <diebot> Mekkis, r218 | vpsirc | 2012-04-07 00:09:06 +0200 (Sat, 07 Apr 2012) | 1 line
49:59 <Mekkis> !diff 391 r218
50:01 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/391r218.txt
50:22 <Avatar> !history 391
50:23 <diebot> Avatar, r223 | vpsirc | 2012-04-10 13:38:06 +0200 (Tue, 10 Apr 2012) | 1 line
50:23 <diebot> Avatar, r220 | vpsirc | 2012-04-09 00:09:16 +0200 (Mon, 09 Apr 2012) | 1 line
50:24 <diebot> Avatar, r219 | vpsirc | 2012-04-08 00:09:08 +0200 (Sun, 08 Apr 2012) | 1 line
50:24 <diebot> Avatar, r218 | vpsirc | 2012-04-07 00:09:06 +0200 (Sat, 07 Apr 2012) | 1 line
50:32 <Avatar> why were you worried about botspam with the conditions text
50:38 <Mort-> How many goblins can be in we be goblins
50:40 <Avatar> when history does the same thing
50:47 <Mort-> Id like to see our new goblins
50:51 <Avatar> same as any scenario
51:01 <Avatar> up to about 6
51:54 <Mort-> Id like to see a hydra goblin
51:58 <Ballig> !findchar mort
51:59 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=289
51:59 <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=291
52:00 <diebot> Ballig, Character: mort, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
52:10 <Mort-> And a jumpy goblin
52:28 <Mort-> Maybe a Steven goblin and an oster goblin
52:39 <Mort-> Only 4 templates to hand out?
52:47 <Ballig> there's more than 4
52:52 <Mort-> Oh cool
52:58 <Mort-> Kewl
52:59 <Jumpy142> I won't be able to play goblins
53:22 <Avatar> there's only 4 legal ones
53:38 <Avatar> if you play one of the others aside from the 4, then you can't get credit
53:49 <Ballig> says who
53:59 <Avatar> I saw it somewhere
54:00 <Ballig> I remember looking for that, but never found it
54:11 <Avatar> I'll have a better look for it later
54:39 <Mekkis> probably the same place where it says that if you run a game instead of playing part of a sanctioned module, the DM's allowed to refuse you credit
55:23 <Ballig> Your 
55:24 <Ballig> players  should  select  goblin  characters  from  the  four 
55:24 <Ballig> pregenerated  goblin  heroes  presented  on  pages  12–15 
55:24 <Ballig> of  this  book.  Alternatively,  they  can  use  the  rules  for 
55:24 <Ballig> goblins  that  appear  on  page  156  of  the  Pathfinder  RPG 
55:24 <Ballig> Bestiary to make unique goblin characters of their own. 
55:45 <Ballig> Mekkis: is that next to the part that says you can play in a sanctioned module using an illegal character and still expect credit?
56:00 <Avatar> oh cool
56:09 <Avatar> where is that
56:22 <Ballig> in the About This Adventure sidetext on page 3
57:02 <Mekkis> don't worry about it: I've got it here.
58:00 <Ballig> maybe they need to hear the whole story
58:17 <Mekkis> yeah
58:27 <Mekkis> the people that matter have.
58:33 <Ballig> no, they've heard your story
58:37 <Ballig> your stories are always very selective
58:50 <Ballig> who gave you the credit?
58:53 <Mekkis> given that you weren't willing to enter a discussion
59:08 <Ballig> I entered a discussion. for over an hour
59:13 <Ballig> just because you didn't agree with my decision doesn't make it wrong
59:22 <Ballig> I'll let DarkWhite know what the full story is
59:27 <Mekkis> please do
00:57 <Mekkis> that being said, I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by doing so
08:12 <Jumpy142> hey guys, where can I find a list of deities?
08:28 <Mekkis> there's a partial list in the core rulebook
08:30 <Mekkis> around cleric
08:43 <Mekkis> a more complete list is in Gods and Magic
08:50 <Mort-> Worship asmodeus :p
09:01 * Mort- snickers
09:24 <Jumpy142> is Gods and Magic a different book?
09:31 <Mort-> Yes
10:06 <Mort-> Anyway. Don't have book so i usually pick a diety that has something to do with my class
10:20 <Mort-> Or for some characters not at all
10:35 <Jumpy142> its just my friend is making a Druid
10:39 <Mort-> Its required for clerics. But not for others
10:49 <Mort-> Not sure about doodads
10:53 <Mort-> I think need too
11:06 <Mekkis> so Ballig: what do you want to achieve?
11:08 <Mort-> I'm not one on divine casters much
11:08 <Fish> Can I just be a pretentious atheist?
11:10 <Mekkis> do you want me to leave?
11:25 <Mort-> If you want to be a divine caster
11:29 <Mort-> You need a fifty
11:32 <Mort-> Diety
11:45 <Mort-> And you need to be sufficiently pious
11:54 <Mort-> Or you don't get your spells granted
12:14 <Mort-> Which is why i don't really do divine casters much
14:05 <Mort-> Some gms may penalize divine casters if they do some really stupid things with your spells.
14:49 <Mort-> Ie you have a good aligned god and you use inflict wounds to threaten innocent townsfolk for money
15:19 <Avatar> that should really only happen if you go far enough to affect alignment
15:54 <Mekkis> I've only done it twice
16:18 <Mekkis> the first time was a cleric of Hextor openly defying an instruction from his deity
16:45 <Mekkis> the second time was a cleric who decided to attack, unprovoked, a high temple dedicated to his deity
06:27 <Fish> guys which do i use as a dump stat for a gnomish druid?
06:49 <Mort-> Not supposed to dump stat! :p
06:50 <Avatar> charisma I think
07:18 <Jumpy142> Mort-: Every stat above 10! :D
07:41 <Mort-> Nah
07:43 <Mort-> Keep it  at 10
08:53 <Mekkis> Fish, I've found 12 12 12 12 14 15 is a nice point buy
09:38 <Mekkis> if you really want to dump something, you Might consider int...
09:44 <Mekkis> but it depends what type of druid
09:48 <Avatar> give him a break
09:51 <Avatar> he can take a dump stat
09:55 <Mekkis> (Grolschmir isn't your average gnomish druid)
09:56 <Avatar> he can take two if he wants
10:01 <Fish> the furry kind
10:10 <Mekkis> elabourate?
10:26 <Mekkis> animal companion + wildshape to flank and beat people up?
10:48 <Mekkis> or something else?
11:18 * Mort- wonders if he can teach balaar to be a flanking buddy
11:23 <Mort-> Probably not without enlarge
11:57 <Mekkis> animal companion + sit back and summon more animals to eat people up?
12:08 <Mekkis> (the latter allows you to dump str)
12:38 <Mekkis> as a gnome, putting a 9 (before racial modifiers) into cha... works
13:07 <Mort-> Gnomes are also the root of all evil!
13:59 <Mort-> There is nothing good being a gnome :p
14:16 <Mekkis> Mort-, you're wrong about that
14:25 <Mort-> Nah
14:29 <Mekkis> the Gods created humans
14:36 <Mekkis> and elves
14:39 <Mekkis> and orcs
14:40 <Mekkis> etc
14:45 <Mekkis> Gnomes....
14:47 <Mekkis> well...
14:56 <Mort-> You know me. There would be something wrong if i didn't say bad things about gnomes :)
14:56 <Mekkis> Gnomes were already there
14:58 <Mekkis> at the start!
15:12 <Mekkis> the other races are CRUEL INVADERS!
15:17 <Mort-> Well we are the children of gods
15:25 <Mekkis> and the devils!
15:28 <Mort-> Gnomes are just wild fey
15:42 <Mort-> To be stomped on when you see them
15:46 <Mort-> Or punted ^^
15:52 <Mekkis> until they lance you
16:06 <Mort-> Actually maybe i shouldn't say that
16:12 <Mekkis> through that cheliaxian target you have on your TShirt
16:21 <Mort-> Wouldnt be alive if mouth for a gnome
16:27 <Mort-> If not
16:33 <Mort-> For a gnome
16:55 <Mort-> Again he wouldn't be alive if not for me. So i guess we are even
17:10 <Mort-> No.
17:29 <Mort-> Resist that chain of thought mort!
18:05 <Mort-> Repeat. Gnomes are meant to be punted.
18:28 <Mort-> And i don't have any faction t shirt
18:41 <Mort-> Definitieky not cheliax
18:59 <Mekkis> FYI: Itzamna has an email address: [email protected]
19:18 <Mort-> Lol
19:58 <Mort-> Anyway
20:08 <Mort-> Gnomes are meant to be tossed over gardens!
20:21 <Mort-> I have no gnomes
20:30 <Mort-> Or pallies!
21:15 <Jumpy142> we've gotta get you to roll a gnome sometime, Mort-
21:25 <Mort-> It won't happen
21:35 <Mort-> If i have an urge to be a small race
21:40 <Mort-> I will go halfling
24:16 <Jumpy142> night, all
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