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11:37 <Ysjoelfir> it is I!
11:41 <Ysjoelfir> the queen of sauce!
11:48 <rust_collector> YOOOOOOOOOU
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11:59 * Ampera sauces Ysjoelfir quite messily
12:32 <Ysjoelfir> oh yeah, moooooooooore Ampera!
12:47 <Ampera> no, you have enough of me already
12:51 <Ampera> get greedy and I'll leave again
12:52 <rust_collector> aammppeerraa?
13:10 * Ampera gets the disinfectant hose, points it threateningly
16:59 <rust_collector> TELETUBBIES!
17:06 <Ampera> no..
17:10 <Ampera> stop
17:13 <Ampera> please
20:35 <Ysjoelfir> Tinkywinky [puts] Dipsy [in] Lala['s] Po?
21:25 <rust_collector> https://bit.ly/2PAfLS4
21:26 <eevBot> [Title] - Bitly
21:44 <Ampera> I am not clicking that link
21:58 <rust_collector> that is ok
22:05 <coppice> good idea. you'll go lala
22:08 <coppice> or po
22:25 <Ampera> how are you doing coppice
22:42 <coppice> how am I doing what?
22:49 <Ampera> coppice, being yourself
22:51 <Ampera> how are you doing that
23:07 <coppice> I am always myself, achieved with minimal effort
23:14 <Ampera> It doesn't show
24:46 Quit: Guest69 ([email protected]) Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
00:20 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir be all https://i.imgur.com/LPzSRbj.jpg
00:29 <Ysjoelfir> YEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!
09:25 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir i have maybe found a stainless pipe for your goo-squisher. we will see if it can take some pressure or not
09:38 <Ysjoelfir> cool! :D
09:42 * electrohead offers his man-sauce
09:54 * Ysjoelfir redirects mr. head to Ampera
09:58 <electrohead> lmao
10:01 <electrohead> hey :p
10:12 * Ampera returns electrohead to sender
11:50 * electrohead gets missent
12:23 <rust_collector> aww, mr head got stuck in customs, this will take a while
16:18 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18W_LBNg2_8
16:19 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Creative 3D Blaster VLB: 3D Graphics Card for DOS Games!
16:25 <Ampera> new LGR video
17:39 <rust_collector> ooh, long gone raptor videos are bestest
30:22 * Ysjoelfir considers installing raptor now
33:32 <rust_collector> lala
33:45 <rust_collector> PO!
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07:21 <rust_collector> hmm, swiss neighbor rolled a trailer into the russian neighbors garage door, and they have been making noises wit it for a couple hours now
07:30 <Ysjoelfir> huh?
07:55 <Ysjoelfir> maybe they try to stick the russians house into the trailer. like, recursively
08:08 <rust_collector> worth a try....
09:25 <rust_collector> I just looked outside, and the trailer was on the other side of the road. the next time I looked, the trailer was back on the first tide, and there was a hand waving out of the door, lol
11:59 <Ysjoelfir> human trafficing!!!
12:09 * Ysjoelfir adds an optional K
14:57 <rust_collector> yeah, maybe the turkish people will escape
15:01 <rust_collector> we will see
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32:45 <Reg7805> hi guys
33:08 <rust_collector> HELLO!
33:42 <Reg7805> guys im battling with maths
33:48 <Reg7805> i have question
33:49 <Ampera> surrender
34:00 <rust_collector> yes, just give up
34:03 <Ampera> I'm questioning too
34:22 <Reg7805> any body know how to do this? > https://snipboard.io/Gi4Zjs.jpg
35:09 <rust_collector> I have my crosses turned the other way, sorry
35:44 <Ampera> Reg7805, is it just a function?
36:04 <Ampera> I swear I was once good at math
36:07 <Ampera> it was a long time ago
36:09 <Reg7805> differential equations
36:18 <Ampera> never done diffeq
36:21 <rust_collector> well, it can not have been all THAT long ago
36:30 <Ampera> rust_collector, some time in the 60's maybe
36:39 <rust_collector> there you go
36:46 <Reg7805> i just dont know what to do when the "t" value is entred into the equation
37:53 <rust_collector> is it time, or an upside down upside down cross, which means plus?
38:55 <Ampera> rust_collector, it's the sign of the antichrist
39:04 <Reg7805> "t" just means x, so you replace the t with 2.32, 3.04 or 5 and do the equation
39:06 <rust_collector> eeh, well
39:22 <Ampera> if that's all it is, then the function is easy to solve
39:29 <Ampera> but I have no idea what that has to do with differential equations
39:36 <Ampera> that's why I asked if it's just a function you need to solve
40:07 * Ampera gets the long poky stick and remote-pokes T3sl4 
40:20 <T3sl4> buh
40:46 * Ampera gives T3sl4 some cinnamon buhns
41:19 <T3sl4> Ampera, at most you had calculus a few years ago? unless NY curricula are very different from the norm
41:33 <Ampera> Probably was 4 or 5 years ago
41:36 <Reg7805> the function needs to be differentiated
41:39 <Ampera> and is a subject I haven't touched since
41:50 <T3sl4> Reg7805, by "differential coefficient" they mean dy/dt?
41:58 <Reg7805> yep
42:04 <T3sl4> well, then do that
42:07 <Ampera> I knew how to do that a while ago
42:25 <Ampera> if I tried I could probably pick it back up fairly quickly, but calculus is just not needed in my line of work
42:34 <T3sl4> dy/dt (e^(-5t) = -5 e^(-5t)
42:55 Quit: Guest69 ([email protected]) Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
42:56 <T3sl4> the only lines you work are coke lines
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43:12 <Reg7805> what do you do when t is repalced with value but ?
43:32 <T3sl4> if you're getting stuck on substitution of values i got bad news for ya?
43:46 <astroanax> hi guys
43:51 <T3sl4> lo
43:56 <Ampera> who is guys
43:58 <Ampera> we are not guys
44:02 <Ampera> we are entities
44:11 <T3sl4> well, i'm a guy, Ampera is a doll
44:11 <rust_collector> barely
44:15 <T3sl4> we're just a bunch of those things
44:19 <Ampera> like a 20 year old block of cheese, kept in a jar, being thrown into the ocean
44:27 <astroanax> this chan is quite active for 62 nicks
45:23 <rust_collector> it is just Hsn, with all his pretend internet friends....
46:06 <Reg7805> so substitute -5 t with ( if t = 2.32)?
46:46 <T3sl4> not sure how you substitute the "if"
47:18 <T3sl4> it's just search and replace, everywhere 't' shows up by itself, replace it with (2.32)
47:25 <Reg7805> god it is hard right maths on pc
47:51 <rust_collector> stop doing it on pc?
48:18 <Reg7805> thanks T3sl4
48:30 <T3sl4> there is a convention for ascii math, but it's not the most aesthetically pleasing thing
48:31 <Ampera> I always did it on paper
49:10 <Ampera> The HP Prime and HP 50G had really nice symbolic entry
49:49 <Reg7805> see i do the calculations on paper after i have to transfer it over to word
50:06 <T3sl4> "^" means superscript, so e^(-5t) is euler's constant raised to the power of (that stuff)
50:38 <Hsn> rust_collector: what?
50:47 <Reg7805> i understand
51:07 <rust_collector> Hsn listen to Reg7812, he understands
51:46 <Hsn> Ew he understands euler's stuff?
52:45 <T3sl4> Hsn don't make me raise you to the power of imaginary pi
53:34 * Ampera pii's on T3sl4 
54:02 <Hsn> T3sl4: raise me to imaginary once .. i dont want to live in real world any more
54:11 <T3sl4> true
54:26 <Hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/LmcwjTM9LM3ZEkM7A this guy (brother) discussing political stuff and im bored ..
54:27 <Ampera> Was 2017 when I last did any calculus, so about 4 years ago
54:42 <Ampera> went up to calculus 2 in my school
55:10 <Hsn> He also drinks tea in a jar
55:12 <Hsn> Lol
55:22 <rust_collector> Hsn stick matches between his toes, and... stuff
55:49 <astroanax> nice house Hsn
55:55 <Hsn> rust_collector: i got one finger missing there
56:01 <Hsn> astroanax: thx
57:07 <Ampera> oh good, Hsn, you're gonna make all the feet people in the channel go nuts
57:11 <Ampera> er, oh god
57:12 <Ampera> not good
57:16 <Ampera> definitely /not/ good
57:58 <Hsn> Ampera: i forgot there is that category .. which i dont understand??
58:09 <Hsn> I mean . Just why?
58:14 <rust_collector> why not?
58:48 <rust_collector> I am sure someone likes your missing finger too
59:43 <Hsn> Someone claims that its because im wearing flip flops alot
59:49 <Hsn> But i dont think so
00:14 <Hsn> rust_collector: there is nothing sexy in feets xD!??
00:24 <rust_collector> sure there is
01:55 <Hsn> Are u feet catagory guy? rust_collector
02:06 <rust_collector> no
02:10 <Hsn> What they called fethis?
02:14 <Hsn> Fetish?
02:30 <rust_collector> I only collect toes. but I keep them in a glass jar
02:46 <rust_collector> right
03:29 <Hsn> Wiki says
03:32 <Hsn> fetishist.[2] A sexual fetish may be regarded as a non-pathological aid to sexual excitement, or as a mental disorder if it causes significant psychosocial distress for the person or has detrimental effects on important areas of their life.[1][3] Sexual arousal from a particular body part can be further classified as partialism.[4]
05:02 <rust_collector> we know
05:10 <rust_collector> what about it?
05:43 <Hsn> Its disorder no? Yes?
06:08 <rust_collector> everything is a disorder. so I vote no
06:32 <Hsn> Meaning if u have it u should visit physiological creatures
07:18 <Hsn> ؟
07:24 <Hsn> ?
07:31 <rust_collector> well, did you read the text you pasted?
07:49 <Hsn> Yeah
07:55 <rust_collector> mmhmm.
08:03 <Hsn> But arabic version is different :p
08:26 <rust_collector> things turning you on does not have to be a problem. but if it is, then maybe?
08:36 <Hsn> Will we still dont accept lgbtqf
09:04 <rust_collector> well, lmgomc because I have to pee
09:08 <Ampera> do you accept mastercard or visa?
09:23 <Hsn> Idk .. whatever it is .. if socks turns them on .. good for them i guess enjoys ..
09:52 <rust_collector> yeah, if that is your thing, why would that be a problem?
09:58 <Hsn> Mastercard is closer to masterbute .. Ampera
10:05 <Ampera> wha
10:12 <Hsn> So more accepted here
10:51 <Hsn> rust_collector: i got no problem i just dont understand it xD
11:29 <Ampera> I have a really sick fetish, I must admit. My thing is one day finding someone who actually loves me enough to want to be with me for at least a little while
11:41 <Jens> You sick fuck.
11:43 <Ampera> I don't expect anyone to ever want to be with me for my entire life, so I'm trying to be realistic
11:58 <rust_collector> Hsn that is the thing, you don't have to
12:30 <Hsn> :)
13:10 <Jens> Kink shaming is bad. Except when it concerns furries. Nobody likes furries.
13:35 <Ampera> hahahaha
15:20 <Hsn> U cant put exceptions
17:18 <Hsn> Also im in Community where only straight wife/husband is acceptable .. all kinky things i would guess are hidden .. not being talked about .. so im more like .. these things are new to me .. or just internet stuff ..
17:50 <Ampera> the internet is fun
17:52 <Hsn> Well ampera can comment on multiplayer wives thingy ^
18:02 <Ampera> I can?
18:02 <Jens> So furries are forbidden? Interesting and appealing.
18:17 <Ampera> furries are permitted, so long as there is a hunting season
18:53 <Jens> Those terms are acceptable.
20:19 <Hsn> Furries = like our Kuschelpony guy right ?
20:30 <Ampera> hahaha
20:37 <Ampera> it's a joke, Hsn
20:47 <Hsn> Im no kidding.. idk what it is
21:07 <Ampera> Furries are people who get turned on by anthropomorphized animals.
21:15 <Jens> You should definitely search for it, and turn the family filter off.
21:31 <Ampera> The sort of characters you might find in an animated kids' movie
21:37 <Ampera> there's all sorts of different subcultures and whatnot
22:11 <Jens> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJVZZLv2GE
22:12 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: FURRY APOCALYPSE
22:20 <Ampera> I am not clicking that link.
22:21 <Jens> BAH they age gated it.
22:33 <Jens> It's was a cartoon.
22:47 <Jens> Warhammer 40k vs. furries.
22:47 <Ampera> I don't care
22:52 <coppice> is the furry apocalypse when people go bald?
22:53 <Ampera> I've seen enough cartoon horror in my life
23:08 <coppice> Ampera: teletubbies?
23:15 <Hsn> So pony thing isnt considered furry? I though its animal thingy?
23:23 <coppice> oh, sorry that was all live action
23:32 <Ampera> coppice, unfortunately, that's worse
23:44 <Ampera> cartoons have an element of sick deniability, live action has real intent behind it
23:51 <Jens> Google has age gated so much stuff lately. Like in the past few weeks. They really want people to send them their ID.
23:55 <Hsn> coppice: u can talk about teletubbies but not the purple one .. i like her
24:02 <Hsn> She is mine lol
24:36 <Ampera> As far as I know, they don't require entering ID in the US
24:45 <Ampera> that's an EU thing because nanny state
25:05 <Ampera> that being said, afaik a credit card is considered valid ID, and google sadly already has that
25:14 <Ampera> I think, it's possible they don't yet
26:53 <Jens> Giving Google as little info as possible. CC is way over the line.
27:14 <coppice> Hsn: I've forgotten which colour goes with which name
27:34 <Ampera> honestly out of all my personal info, I'd much rather google have my CC info than my ID
27:38 <Ampera> you can cancel credit cards
28:09 <coppice> Ampera: yeah, it just needs someone to interpret something on the card as racist
28:30 <Hsn> coppice: i never liked that teletubbies thingy .. it was the annoying thing that has to finish fast and another cartoon get displayed .. before my father wakes up and take the remote and put news ..
28:36 <Jens> I wonder how much info you could redact from your ID before they reject it.
29:16 <Jens> As far as google knows, my name is this character 50 times ⸻
30:18 <Hsn> Jens: who knows u then .. duckduckgo?
30:25 <Jens> And Youtube is siloed into its own container, so my login cookie doesn't follow me around.
31:10 <Jens> I use ddg, but they don't harvest info.
31:24 <Hsn> They know u from ur friends who have have ur phone number android
31:46 <Hsn> And other sources of info
32:13 <Jens> Yea, probably. But they can't connect that phone number to my google account.
32:24 <Hsn> U r also tagged in their system .. with a tag called "i don't want them to know me" .. but they do
32:36 <Jens> That I reluctantly have because Youtube is effectively a monopoly.
33:21 <Hsn> Maybe that google analytics things ?
33:39 <Jens> Point is, Google has a profile on my, but I contribute as little to it as practical.
33:52 <Jens> And my line for what is practical goes pretty far.
34:38 <coppice> Youtube has monopolised free speech awards to the extent they create them, and award them to their CEO
35:04 <Jens> Yea that was an absolute farce :D
35:28 <coppice> I hope one day to see the smug look wiped off her face
38:08 <Jens> Well, Youtube is slowly killing itself. Alternatives have gotten better. There's a way to go still.
39:16 <coppice> The alternatives have got nowhere so far, although the main thing holding them back seems to be dirty deals by Google..... except for LBRY. They seem good at their own dirty dealings
39:57 <Jens> I don't really know much about the politics behind it.
40:22 <coppice> LBRY is being investigated for some scam like financial moves
40:33 <Jens> I've used Bitchute for a while. Sure there's a lot of trash on there, but not watching that remains an option as always.
40:54 <Jens> Bitchute video quality is garbage though.
42:08 <coppice> maybe pornhub just pays better :)
42:54 <Jens> There's a getting fucked by Google joke in this somewhere.
43:47 <Hsn> Pornhub doesnt have eevblog
44:04 <Hsn> But youtube and lbry does?
45:11 <coppice> would pornhub find the content objectionable?
47:57 <Hsn> I guess
48:09 <Hsn> Ampera: if u into ants .. https://youtu.be/V1GeNm2D2DU
48:10 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: C++ Ants Simulation - 3, Maze
04:10 Join: Ysjoelfir_ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
05:11 <rust_collector> hey Ysjoelfir_ lol
06:04 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
06:04 Nick: Ysjoelfir_ is now known as Ysjoelfir
08:37 <Ysjoelfir> yes. its me.
08:48 <Ampera> it is?
08:52 <Ampera> I was wishing it was someone else
08:53 <Ysjoelfir> no
08:54 <Ampera> oh well
08:54 <rust_collector> oh, I thought it was that other guy
14:28 <Lemon> itsameeee
16:51 <rust_collector> hey mario
18:28 <Andre> good evening
18:47 <rust_collector> HELLO!
19:13 <Lemon> hey rusty, ever played with those peltier modules ?
19:29 <rust_collector> well, sort of, but nothing serious
20:13 * Ampera squeezes Lemon
20:16 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir are you watching the homepage of a webstore in finland?
20:25 <Lemon> sprouichh
20:28 <Lemon> heh I never got one
20:35 <Ampera> how are you Lemon
20:48 <Lemon> but I read a bit about it, and maybe it could be nice to make a cheap diy thermal chamber for standard resistors, ocxos etc
20:52 <Lemon> ho im ok and you ?
20:58 <Ysjoelfir> erm... not that I can remember, rust_collector?
21:04 <Ampera> meh
21:08 <Ampera> work is over
21:14 <rust_collector> If you were, and don't remember... then...
21:36 <rust_collector> Ampera I have been home all week. and I have next week off as well
21:47 <rust_collector> then I have 2 weeks on vacation
22:46 <Ampera> cool
22:57 <rust_collector> we will see
23:00 <Ampera> what is it now if it's not vacation
23:11 <rust_collector> I am off "sick"
23:54 <rust_collector> I was trying to go back on wednesday, but he had my shift covered. and said he had covered the whole week
24:09 <Ampera> shifty
24:21 <rust_collector> then he said it was best if I stayed at home next week too, just to make sure...
33:37 <Ysjoelfir> so my dear f riends, what would you think about this handlebar control unit for my heated grips? I think this will be my final design for it. The buttons have LEDs in them, bicolor, red and yellow. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FsaEugcfMDAtfuXgGfVHPizixvuu4F8v/view?usp=sharing
33:38 <eevBot> [Title] - 302 Moved
34:41 <rust_collector> how exactly will you use that?
36:04 <rust_collector> I want the temp set, and the thing to come on when I start the bike. I do not want to start the bike and push to level 14... does it have memory? will you have an upgrade, that has an ambient temp sensor?
37:33 <rust_collector> and will you do a second version, for bikes that has a bend just inside the handle?
37:46 <rust_collector> or other stuff in the way
39:00 <rust_collector> but, i do not ride bikes, so I don't know. that would work well enough on a snow blower, I guess
39:40 <Ysjoelfir> It will have memory, yes. It is supposed to come on with the last setting if one wishes it to do so, there should be a setting menu to disable this feature. I have an ambient sensor input prepared, yes. It will be used on a "high end" version of the thing. and custom sizes are possible upon request
40:08 <rust_collector> right, ok
41:15 <rust_collector> maybe try to make the housing in 2 parts, in a way that allows you to use the upper part for "anything" but have 2-3 different kinds of bottom parts, just as different shaped brackets?
41:57 <rust_collector> which can mean being in 3 parts. or is that what it is?
42:09 <rust_collector> is the darker grey a different part?
42:33 <T3sl4> i'm no dearf riend of yours, Ysjoelfir
42:51 <rust_collector> deer f riend
43:03 Join: newbie ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
43:11 <newbie> Hey All
43:41 <rust_collector> hey you
43:56 <Ysjoelfir> it is 2/3 parts, yes. Its the top part with the PCB, then follows 3 kinds of clip on backplate (handlebar, glue-on (flat) and screw on (2 nuts and mounting holes)) and in case of the handlebar version the lower part of the handlebar mount is added as well.
44:07 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, so you are my worst enemy?
44:13 <Ysjoelfir> and: hi newbie
44:21 <rust_collector> ok, sounds ok to me
44:31 <rust_collector> just make it smaller
44:45 <T3sl4> nah, you've got that covered :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc5iTNVEOAg
44:46 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Lit - My Own Worst Enemy (Official Music Video)
45:01 <rust_collector> and write an app for it, that only works on ipads
46:12 <rust_collector> arrf, that lit reminds me of something
47:14 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0XBuOWqiaY
47:15 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Somali Yacht Club - Loom
48:01 <Ysjoelfir> even smaller, rust_collector? :D thats going to be hard xD also people complained a) that it is to small/buttons to narrow, b) that its to bulky xD
48:11 <rust_collector> yes
48:16 <T3sl4> hah
48:26 <newbie> regarding alligator clips, I prefer that the wire is soldered however I have a question regarding crimped connections. Mueller Electric had mentioned the following in one of the comments on their video: "We believe you are talking about an alligator clip similar to the BU-70 like this: http://muellerelectric.com/product/bu-70/
48:26 <newbie> Mueller’s clip has a “wire strap” that can be squeezed with needle nose pliers. Many non-branded alligator clips do not have this feature and must be soldered to obtain a good electrical connection. The “teeth” are only used to hold the wire insulation which acts as a strain relief."
48:27 <eevBot> [Title] - Document Moved
48:35 <rust_collector> the thing has to be smaller, but the buttons bigger, because you people use gloooooves
48:52 <newbie> My question is, when they refer to "wire strap" are they referring to the circled part in this picture?: https://ibb.co/WF6B7dM
48:54 <eevBot> [Title] - BU-70 — ImgBB
49:19 <rust_collector> that is probably it, yes
49:26 <rust_collector> (same as many others
50:07 <newbie> how does putting the bare wire through the circled part in red, and pushing down on it with pliers, secure the bare wire? -- as there is a hole under it
51:20 <rust_collector> I guess the wire is thicker than the hole minus the strap? i dunno?
52:18 <newbie> I dunno, I get get it to make sense in my head, it seems like if it was solid under, then the wire would be crimped against it... with just a hole I am imaging the wire will be pushed downwards through it and can't see how it would make a secure contact...
52:33 <T3sl4> newbie: no, that's where the wire solders in. the pointybits just behind that are to be pinched around the wire
52:50 <T3sl4> i suppose you could use it that way, but the insulation is gonna be pretty melty after the whole thing gets to soldering temp
52:53 <rust_collector> well, I am pretty sure no one will kill you if you solder it
53:17 <rust_collector> T3sl4 so you disagree with muller then?
53:43 <T3sl4> rust_collector: this tune is like something tool would make, but if they sounded slightly less like tool
53:58 <rust_collector> yes, it would be an improvement
54:21 <newbie> what confuses me is that Mueller seems to mention two parts, one being the " 'teeth' are only used to hold the wire insulation which acts as a strain relief. " and the other being the "wire strap"
54:28 <T3sl4> or maybe a hint of dream theater but it's a little more chill than epic i guess you could say
55:00 <rust_collector> I wonder why the drug people are more annoying than apple fanboys and maybe even similar to arch users
55:05 <newbie> and they seem to indicate the "wire strap" can be used to crimp the wire in place, they say "Mueller’s clip has a “wire strap” that can be squeezed with needle nose pliers"
55:12 <newbie> however I don't get how this
55:18 <newbie> "wire strap" works...
55:41 <T3sl4> oh, up to 16AWG too, you'll use up a fair amount of that back end with wire that size
57:36 <T3sl4> ohgod
57:41 <T3sl4> well, i suppose that probably answers it
57:42 <T3sl4> brb
57:52 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjR18A8A1D0
57:53 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: Celladoor
00:03 <newbie> rust_collector -- I agree, soldering would be the way I would go -- I was just trying to make sense of what they were suggesting
00:34 <rust_collector> I am not saying that. but it would not hurt anything if you did
00:42 <rust_collector> other than your fingertips
01:11 <T3sl4> newbie: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/AlligatorCrimp.jpg
01:28 <T3sl4> so, this is some no name chinese one, they stripped the wire and folded it under the end, and crimped that in
01:41 <T3sl4> it's pretty.... uh.... it's a thing you can do, i guess.
02:07 <MrMobodies> Hello
02:15 <T3sl4> hey mo
02:30 <MrMobodies> just noticed noticed something added to youtube thumbnails
02:44 <rust_collector> you would, I guess
02:44 <MrMobodies> when clicking them they animate and dim
02:48 <MrMobodies> ##.extended.down
02:49 <MrMobodies> ##.stroke.style-scope.yt-interaction
02:49 <MrMobodies> ##.fill.style-scope.yt-interaction
03:02 <Ysjoelfir> For some reason I have the urge to eat sugarfree licorice right now...
03:05 <MrMobodies> problem solved as it wont hapen nore more
03:15 <MrMobodies> with them hidden
03:26 <rust_collector> ok then, both of you
03:52 * T3sl4 points MrMobodies and Ysjoelfir to the dark jazz
03:54 <newbie> T3s14 I am wondering from that picture which you linked -- if they used a different style alligator, similar to Mueller BU-60M which has a banana jack that can be crimped
03:56 <newbie> similar to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtUQDgUX334
03:57 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: How to properly crimp an alligator clip onto a wire
05:00 <newbie> after looking at this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e6l4UQ-fGk --- I am thinking to do a crimp using their tool, to provide strain relief, and then solder as well
05:01 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: How to attach an alligator clip to a wire - 3 different ways
05:28 <MrMobodies> looks like a better tool then what i have
05:36 <MrMobodies> to crimp stuff
05:39 <T3sl4> geez, he does fold it over
08:37 <T3sl4> so, thing is, it'll hold as long as the insulation holds, but it won't be a low resistance crimp joint, it's literally just a plug of rubber pushing the wires against the clip, janky af
08:52 <T3sl4> i mean, chips are janky to begin with, if it starts burning up get a new one
08:58 <T3sl4> s/h/l/
13:11 <rust_collector> Hsn here! I found the song of your people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY81Yon92Gs&list=OLAK5uy_noFQmslQIP5WomYKKaYNTjHc9YEOAvNZY
13:12 <eevBot> [Title] - Youtube: My Orifices Await Ravaging
13:49 <T3sl4> oh my
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14:18 <T3sl4> so, cannibal corpse but better?
14:29 <Ampera> that title makes me hungry
14:41 <rust_collector> eeh. he is not exactly skinny, so... maybe
14:58 * T3sl4 waggles his sausage at Ampera
15:38 <rust_collector> my favourite is still the "nihilism tied up and burning" that is pretty nice
15:56 <T3sl4> hmm, is this all instrumental? i mean, besides the ambient screams
16:03 <rust_collector> pretty much
16:10 <T3sl4> cool
16:17 <T3sl4> yeah, that's a nice title already
16:55 <rust_collector> you have heard that one before, it is the one you have to play as loud as you can, to hear the actual melody
18:26 <Hsn> rust_collector: how is that my people song xD
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18:36 <rust_collector> I don't know, it just is
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20:52 <Hsn> T3sl4: it also not good for strands if crimping was biting exactly the fold area ..
21:03 <Hsn> They will break right?
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21:09 <T3sl4> what?
21:19 <Hsn> The allegator crimp video
21:21 <rust_collector> they will break no matter what.
21:28 <rust_collector> it will be BAAAD!
21:36 <rust_collector> then.....
21:38 <rust_collector> FIRE!
21:43 <newbie> what will break?
21:50 * T3sl4 divides hsn by zero
22:07 <Hsn> But they shouldnt be folded hard .. and if crimped near the bend .. the small strand wires can be cracked right?
22:52 <T3sl4> maybe? idunno
23:06 <rust_collector> stop wrecking your wires, Hsn
23:32 <Hsn> There was one document from nasa .. i found great for wire stuff
23:42 <T3sl4> the point of a crimp is to squash the strands so tightly that they get extruded a bit. they get thinned and stretched, and it's the stretch that holds them against the housing
24:18 <Hsn> Nasa Workmenship for crimping maybe
24:45 <Hsn> T3sl4: isnt it (cold weld) thing?
24:47 <T3sl4> a poorly done crimp just mushes them together without any stretch, it's loose and prone to oxidation or pullout
24:53 <T3sl4> it can be cold welding too, ye
24:56 <rust_collector> aka, boeing wiring things book
25:14 <T3sl4> or overdone, some strands are pinched right through, obviously no good
25:27 <T3sl4> you're boeing me, rust_collector
25:37 <rust_collector> BOIOIOING!
26:20 <Hsn> https://workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/links/sections/401%20General%20Requirements.html
26:21 <eevBot> [Title] - CABLE AND HARNESS GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
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30:41 <newbie> Hsn I am thinking instead of folding hard, to strip it longer, and have a longer fold so that the wire is visible through the bottom hole, then crimp, then add solder at the bottom hole
33:11 <rust_collector> solder first, then crimp the insulation, imo
34:13 <T3sl4> ^
34:26 <Hsn> Why would u say solder first
34:39 <rust_collector> to not melt the thing to a blob
35:04 <Hsn> I thought solder will add wicking to strands which is not good for crimping .. it will break them .. no?
35:07 <T3sl4> seems to me the better method is solder then crimp. solder needs strain relief, so you get the best of both worlds. whereas just mushing metal and plastic together, doesn't do fucking anything, there's no crimp as such
35:10 <newbie> I was concerned if I solder first then after crimping it will create mechanical shock / malformation that could damage the solder joint
35:34 <rust_collector> Hsn that is why you should not solder wires, if you are going to bend them
36:03 <Hsn> T3sl4: how about u dont crimp the plastic .. just the strands .. ?
36:12 <newbie> well I would be inclined to just solder as that is an option but then what about the strain relief?
36:20 <T3sl4> it doesn't crush tight enough to hold just the metal, see the vid
37:08 <rust_collector> if the wire is a different enough metal to the wire, I guess you could in theory shrink it in place
37:15 <Hsn> T3sl4: i mean if that thing is ment for 16awg .. and ur wire is 20awg .. sure .. but multiple bends ? XD
38:07 <T3sl4> looks like he does it with bigger than 20awg already
38:08 <Hsn> I mean if u have crimp of 1mm² .. ur wire is 0.5mm² .. then one bend .. and crimp ..then solder .. ? What u think
38:26 <rust_collector> Hsn stop using the wrong parts? if you have 20 awg wire, use a thing that is designed to be used for that?
38:35 <Hsn> Im generally talking about idea not the one in video specifically
38:54 <Hsn> rust_collector: yeah .. sometimes u just cant
39:22 <rust_collector> well, then you should not worry about making things perfect
39:28 <rust_collector> yes, that will work
39:29 <T3sl4> that can be... ok, but mind that the bend will take up more space than the wires do, so you can't shove through enough metal to make up the difference
39:38 <T3sl4> doubled 16awg is almost exactly 19awg, not 20
39:49 <T3sl4> if it's 18-22awg crimp range that'll be fine tho
40:35 <Hsn> T3sl4: that awg is bad thats why i stopped talking about it and started with mm²
40:59 <T3sl4> erm... doubled 20 is 17**
41:05 <Hsn> Im driving im probably missing half the messages xD
41:19 <Hsn> 20 is 0.5mm²?
41:36 <rust_collector> I guess you could crimp it, and drive a nail into the middle of the wire...sort of like a wedge
41:42 <Hsn> 17awg is 1mm²sh?
41:50 <T3sl4> sounds close
42:46 <Hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/q8akfvHVKFBAiXou8
43:30 <T3sl4> texting while driving, outstanding move
43:35 <rust_collector> there was a sale on red lights? are you in amsterdam? uhm. no, I can not think of any more things
43:37 <Hsn> Brave?
43:53 <rust_collector> it is ok, the donkeys are pretty soft
45:26 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir do you think 2 buttons are better than a 2 way springyback sort of toggle switch?
45:30 <Hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xxFcwU91UZ7rnyaH6
46:03 <Ysjoelfir> rust_collector, yes. People complained a lot about my first design which was a toggle switch
46:20 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1coxx5vdxVUoVVjLC0RYrwyo134PmX_JN/view?usp=sharing
46:21 <eevBot> [Title] - 302 Moved
46:34 <Hsn> Ysjoelfir: its moved
46:44 <Ysjoelfir> its not. the bot is moved.
46:49 <rust_collector> Hsn I have no idea. but it was annoying when too many people commented about me watching football while driving
47:53 <rust_collector> I guess the buttons look better, but I am not sure if they would work better? Oh well. it is not a big deal
48:16 <Ysjoelfir> It was only the looks they complained about, yes. :P
48:59 <Ysjoelfir> the argument was basically "for most of us the bike is a prestige object with big value, we don't want to have something that looks like a homebrewn 2€ toggle switch from the electronics store on the thing"
49:06 <Hsn> Rusty thats why u should hide it from ppl
49:15 <Hsn> Ysjoelfir: good day to u
49:27 <Hsn> All: c u later
49:27 <Ysjoelfir> mornings hsn
49:34 <Hsn> Night :p
49:42 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy
49:45 <rust_collector> Hsn i don't watch football. wth?
49:47 <Hsn> U 2
49:56 <rust_collector> pervert
50:00 <rust_collector> good night
50:03 <Hsn> Porn ..
50:06 <rust_collector> gp drink water
50:24 <Hsn> U was watching taxi type porn
50:26 <Hsn> XD
50:58 <Ysjoelfir> I think backroom casting couch is the better choice while driving
51:22 <rust_collector> fake taxi is not bad, butt.....
52:32 <electrohead> o/
53:01 <rust_collector> I guess the Hsn spec version of that is "riding together on one donkey, close enough to reach the other with bare hand"
54:01 <Ysjoelfir> loool
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59:28 <Ysjoelfir> newbie
59:30 <Ysjoelfir> please
59:34 <Ysjoelfir> fix that damn kiwi IRC
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11:03 <Ysjoelfir> newbie
11:08 <Ysjoelfir> newbie
11:09 <Ysjoelfir> newbie
11:10 <Ysjoelfir> newbie
11:35 <electrohead> `op
11:35 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o electrohead
11:43 <Ysjoelfir> u-oh
11:51 <Ysjoelfir> he's approaching
11:56 <electrohead> lol, goof :P
12:17 <Ysjoelfir> love you too <3
12:21 <electrohead> <3
12:48 <rust_collector> 'poo
13:06 <electrohead> it's a back tick, not a single quotation mark
13:12 <rust_collector> `poo
13:15 <rust_collector> sorry
13:29 <rust_collector> I don't know this weirdo keyboard
13:48 <rust_collector> it has no layout
14:16 <Ysjoelfir> ew! it has some weird letters!
14:52 <rust_collector> yeh, it spits out the most random comments on the internet
15:34 <rust_collector> ok, so I tried to re-plug the keyboard on the stinkpad. I think it is dead
15:59 <Ysjoelfir> the stinkboard, or the keypad?
16:30 <rust_collector> uhm, the part in between, actually. the upper mouse buttons
18:15 <rust_collector> which seems to happen a lot to me. i have the same thing on the wide hp too. but that one is small enough to just use the lower ones
19:17 <rust_collector> hmm, there seems to be a fuse in there...
19:33 <rust_collector> at least on the 460, and this is a 430. should be close enough
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23:08 <Ysjoelfir> mr. head! your chance!
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23:11 <Ysjoelfir> aww, to late
23:22 Mode: (by electrohead) +b *!*@11d88534.cable.teksavvy.com
23:32 <electrohead> never too late, lol
23:40 <Ysjoelfir> so, rusty, does your thing have a fuse, despite being the small one?
23:40 <electrohead> I'm at work, so I'm going back and forth right now
23:52 <Ysjoelfir> One Lager please.
23:56 <rust_collector> hmm? no idea
24:18 <rust_collector> but I will go look for one, lol
25:06 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, maybe it is time for a cup...
25:23 <Ysjoelfir> and 2 girls?
25:46 <rust_collector> no thanks. that sounds too much like work
26:21 <Ysjoelfir> heh. 3 are already enough?
26:36 <rust_collector> plenty too much
27:42 <electrohead> lol
27:48 Mode: (by electrohead) -o electrohead
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29:07 <Ysjoelfir> aaaaand gone
34:47 <rust_collector> P00F!
37:52 <electrohead> I have said person a chance to possibly say something
37:54 <electrohead> but, alas
37:57 <electrohead> :p
51:24 <rust_collector> you have?
51:52 <electrohead> gave**
52:00 <electrohead> muh fingers are borken today
52:03 <electrohead> :p
52:18 <rust_collector> oh, you have gaven him...ok
55:40 <rust_collector> and now the guy gave up fixing the door, and left
55:45 <rust_collector> sounds like a plan
33:39 <electrohead> lol
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41:08 <rust_collector> time for more spaghetti with unknown substance on it
41:17 <Ysjoelfir> so. who's up for a game of world of tanks?
41:47 <T3sl4> wot
41:50 <rust_collector> ask vadim
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42:13 <Ysjoelfir> vadim, are you up? lets go!
42:24 <Ysjoelfir> also, T3sl4, you hsould join! its fun
42:28 <rust_collector> drill the wall a bit, maybe he wakes up
42:34 <Ysjoelfir> heh
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46:25 <T3sl4> i thought we were going to play that one free quake 3 clone
46:31 <T3sl4> or actual quake 3 before that
46:44 <T3sl4> i can't tell what you guys are playing all the time
46:49 <Ysjoelfir> uuh, I loved quake.
47:35 <rust_collector> you guys? Don't mix me into that stuff....
47:51 <rust_collector> atomic tanks only
50:42 <Ysjoelfir> so... should I choose the soviet BT2 or the german Panzerkampfwagen 2?
50:53 <rust_collector> probably not
50:55 <T3sl4> back in my day the tank battle game was Scorched Earth
51:38 <T3sl4> hmmmm, don't think i have a copy of that floating around anymore though
51:59 <rust_collector> that is pretty much the same as atomic tanks, I think
52:31 <T3sl4> there's a modern-ish remake of it, i think by that name?
52:40 <rust_collector> but I did play that a lot
53:07 <rust_collector> yes, it is the loonix version, I think. at least debian has it in the repo, as atanks
53:29 <T3sl4> pfft, how can it be singular of a plural?
53:30 <rust_collector> but dos games should not be too hard to find?
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54:37 <rust_collector> https://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/scorched-earth/
54:40 <eevBot> [Title] - Download Scorched Earth | DOS Games Archive
54:44 <T3sl4> aye
54:46 <rust_collector> yep, it is
54:57 <T3sl4> now i wonder if someone made a net play version of dosbox that supports games like that
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55:15 <T3sl4> map certain keys to remote players i guess would do
55:31 <rust_collector> I see there is an online version of the game... I don't know
56:04 <T3sl4> local emulation i assume
56:35 <rust_collector> I have no idea
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25:19 <Lemon> lol the poor guy on alibaba for the lcr meter, im asking him a shitton of questions
25:31 <Lemon> the problem is he answering only one out of the 3 each time, so it takes time
25:35 <Lemon> but he patient
25:54 <rust_collector> well, why don't you ask one question at a time?
27:44 <Lemon> thats what im doing now lol
27:57 <Lemon> theres another model with a different form, but with really similar specs
28:12 <rust_collector> right. that other one sucks
28:18 <Lemon> I think I found differences (datasheet are a bit weird, they say something and the reverse in two lines)
28:39 <Lemon> yeah I think besides slower measurements (idc, for max accuracy you put it on slow anyway) it got less features
28:56 <Lemon> like what they call "dc depolarisation" which I think is current bias adjustement
29:05 <rust_collector> yes, it is pretty horrible, if compared to theat one
29:07 <Lemon> and no ESR/DCR measurement
29:10 <Lemon> atrocious !
29:31 <Lemon> so yeah I asked if they can declare it to a lower price for customs etc
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29:48 <rust_collector> no no, we say is gift mr sir
29:50 <Lemon> 460 euros wtihout shipping, so probably 60 shipping, 30-40 of customs
30:02 <Lemon> yes well I asked for a rebate if I make a nice review
30:11 <Lemon> "we offer 20USD for a comment" on eevblog forum
30:16 <Lemon> thats always that I guess
30:36 <rust_collector> that does help
31:11 <rust_collector> so, order 20 of them, make 20 comments, with different accounts, and return 19 of them?
31:23 <Lemon> so yeah 540-560 euros total delivered would be superb
31:35 <Lemon> heh I think I'll lose money on shipping lol
31:53 <Lemon> you can remove the bumper on this one, which is nice
31:57 <Lemon> sometimes its glued, which sucks
33:17 * Ampera gives Lemon a beignet
33:22 <Lemon> I usually remove handles, bumpers, and stuff like that to stack them
33:27 <Lemon> ha thanks I ran out of them !
33:47 <rust_collector> so, mr searching for stuff... why don't you find me a keyboard for a T420 or similar?
35:01 <Lemon> lemme see
35:26 <Lemon> shit, link is endless
35:28 <rust_collector> not a french layout one, because I already have enough issues in my brain
35:47 <Lemon> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/400977056600?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5d5c185358:g:tjQAAOSwqk5ghZvv&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACgBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkTboA95HSvGa1O5UmCCGJLh305%252FOsvk54WVFjulKN%252BdVyVobrVaSRlJMGmv%252BKRKw%252BLuWUsczVYE6BfZmHGTFNAJkxty1f3lbO4THh3di96T5hxop%252BLzt10Km1MCMut47zLf22EVVV4IP2mRR1eM4elO%252F0%252FEkEzXOhYxb8lL95ziluqaLGwsjkx30tuY9fB3UerTTn2%252FSjSTuQx9EuzaDvMZI8%252BY6GZtpiAsijJd584j
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35:49 <eevBot> [Title] - Neuf IBM Lenovo Thinkpad X220 X220T T420 T420i US Clavier | eBay
35:52 <Lemon> jesus christ
35:55 <Ampera> thanks
36:04 <Lemon> it fitted in one comment lol
36:28 <Lemon> why are they so long
36:59 <Lemon> but yeah plenty on ebay
37:15 <Lemon> they are fine, I remember changing one for a x220
38:00 <rust_collector> I have seen some comments about some china clones, who are horrible, but in general, they seem fine
39:57 <rust_collector> hmm, there was an x220 for sale here... I could ploink my 430 keyboard into that...
40:06 <rust_collector> nah
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42:56 <rust_collector> Condition: NEW and Brand Brand: 	Unbranded
44:42 <Lemon> ho well
44:54 <Lemon> I mean, the best is always to find a real one, but they are rare and expensive
45:01 <Lemon> the chinese one was pretty fine imo
45:06 <Lemon> a bit shinier thats it
45:13 <rust_collector> yeah, I am sure most are ok
45:16 <Lemon> ive put back the stock nipple tho
45:26 <Lemon> you want your nipples stock, always
45:36 <Ampera> OH BOY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NIPPLES?
45:49 <rust_collector> you two are...
46:28 * Ampera is now full of beignets
48:21 <rust_collector> hmm, I did not know super nintendo games had batteries in the cartridges
49:24 <Ampera> not all of them
49:25 <Lemon> not all of them no ?
49:28 <Ampera> some of them do, for saving
49:35 <Lemon> yeah
49:42 <Lemon> like a few gba games too
49:55 <Lemon> for ingame time, like pokemon emerald, ruby etc
50:01 <Ampera> not usually for saving
50:04 <Ampera> they used flash at that point
50:16 <Ampera> pokemon gen 1 and 2 used battery backed RAM though
52:36 <Lemon> hmmm I should modify my thermometer to make it scpi complient
52:41 <Lemon> but I guess that wont be easy
52:58 <Lemon> that way I can adress it via some python programs, along with other gpib things
53:07 <rust_collector> nope, impossible
53:14 <Lemon> because right now its using its own thing I made in vb net
53:25 <Lemon> it works but impossible to incorporate it with something else
53:37 <Lemon> OR, I can make it output a ASCII string by a flip of a button
53:43 <Lemon> thats quite raw but easier
54:17 <rust_collector> it is working well still?
54:35 <Lemon> ho yeah it is, im just using it as a standalone without the soft
54:40 <Lemon> just to have ambient temp
54:53 <Lemon> I need to put resin or something on the other sensor, that got a long cable
54:59 <Lemon> so I can put it in a box with something to measure
59:01 <Lemon> I also finished the usb fixture for the PA, I will test it tommorow
59:07 <Lemon> as my computer is plugged on it right now
02:55 <Lemon> but overall it looks good, I think it will do fine for up to 2A, which is probably the max for usb anyway
03:09 <Lemon> I wont use any usb C through it
05:16 <rust_collector> good. I hope usb c disappears soon
05:31 <electrohead> why?
05:36 * electrohead waves at Lemon
05:49 <Lemon> helllo :>
06:08 <rust_collector> I just do not like it. it is small and flimsy, and is rated for too much power
06:24 <electrohead> that's what she said
08:27 <Lemon> I admit it looks thin
08:31 <Lemon> :>
09:05 <rust_collector> electrohead really? does she say it is small and overrated?
09:15 <Lemon> hey electrohead after a long search, many questions asked around, here's the lcr meter I settled on https://french.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-High-Performance-Digital-LCR-Meter-62007029553.html?spm=a2700.12243863.0.0.14eb148dqJGyer
09:19 <eevBot> [Title] - Compteur Lcr Numérique De Haute Performance,U2832,Nouveau Appareil - Buy Mastech Digital Multimete,Standard Digital Multimeter,Digital Lcr Meter Product on Alibaba.com
11:00 <rust_collector> http://www.5z8.info/add-worm_e6h8fo_warez
11:04 <rust_collector> pretty good
11:17 * T3sl4 squishes Lemon
11:40 <rust_collector> nothing to see click the link
12:07 <Lemon> :O
12:26 <Lemon> I clicked
12:40 <rust_collector> you got worms! hahahah
14:34 <electrohead> Lemon: oh nice
14:35 <Ysjoelfir> have good nights you strange people
14:42 <electrohead> when will you have it?
14:52 * electrohead vigorously waves at Ysjoelfir
14:59 <Lemon> gute nacht !
15:10 <rust_collector> eh?
15:13 <rust_collector> again?
15:32 <Lemon> well first I need to sell my 1080, that will help :> I should receive the replacement gpu on monday, and then I directly order it !
15:40 <Lemon> so I still have some time to decide
15:46 <rust_collector> night Ysjoelfir
15:47 <Lemon> but specs are unbeatable for that price, really
15:53 <rust_collector> mr I sleep every day
16:11 <rust_collector> specsavers
16:23 <Reg7805> that 1080 gpu is like gold worth value now :)
16:40 <rust_collector> 700 leu, and it is yours
17:14 <rust_collector> maybe 1500
17:32 <electrohead> lol
18:12 <Reg7805> the gpu costs more than the hole pc > lol :)
19:12 <Lemon> yeah I paid 200 euros for it 1.5 years ago
19:22 <Lemon> I will try to sell it for 450-500 on ebay xd
19:25 <Reg7805> soon ssd and hdd will become very expsenive aswell
19:28 <Lemon> I saw a few sell for even more
19:52 <Lemon> I bought a hd 7970 instead, for 80 delivered, thats more than good enough for my needs
20:07 <rust_collector> electrohead you are on wifi?
20:42 <Reg7805> no dumpster?? 80 for 7970 expseive i think?
20:57 <Lemon> heh not that much in fact, they doubled in price too believe it or not
21:05 <Lemon> even a 780 is expensive now lol
21:30 <rust_collector> how about the one built in in the atom things?
21:42 <Lemon> too powerful
21:47 <Reg7805> bloody crptominers
21:51 <rust_collector> http://www.5z8.info/launchexe_f3h4gh_php-start_GPS_tracking-user
21:57 <electrohead> rust_collector: why do you ask?
21:58 <rust_collector> yes, damn hackers
22:06 <rust_collector> just wondering
22:17 <electrohead> no, why?
22:32 <rust_collector> ok. just wondering
23:22 <Lemon> im tempted to add a tweezer fixture with the lcr meter if its not too expensive
23:40 <Lemon> it comes with a shielded fixture to put through all components and kelvin clips
23:45 <Lemon> which is nice, already
24:02 <Reg7805> guys i will be leaving now, see yous later!!!
24:09 <Halcyon> Morning all
24:18 <Halcyon> electrohead, ya snob
24:19 <Halcyon> :P
24:23 <rust_collector> HeY!
24:56 <Lemon> helllo !
25:03 Quit: Reg7805 ([email protected]) Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)
25:12 * T3sl4 chardonnays Halcyon
25:58 <T3sl4> i know, too early etc :P
26:05 <Halcyon> It's barely 0930!
26:20 <rust_collector> it depends on how you see it
28:39 <T3sl4> it's just 9 hours into the [mid]night
29:05 <rust_collector> 9.30 is sort of late
31:09 <T3sl4> late late night, perfect drinking time
33:28 * Ampera stabs Halcyon 
34:03 * Halcyon is stabbed
34:16 <Halcyon> How goes?
34:22 <Ampera> How are you doing Halcyon
34:25 <Ampera> I'm alright.
34:41 <Halcyon> I'm OK, I'm just so glad it's the weekend
35:02 <Halcyon> Although about to have a difficult conversation with someone later today
35:16 <Ampera> Is that someone me?
35:20 <Halcyon> No
35:24 <Ampera> oh well
35:45 <Ampera> do I know who this someone is?
35:52 <Halcyon> No one here
36:01 <Ampera> that doesn't answer my question
36:05 <Halcyon> Just lots of shit going on here and I'm done.
36:18 <Ampera> That does
36:39 <Lemon> 60USD for the tweezer fixture that is suitable for 1Mhz
42:44 <rust_collector> ok, good luck, and... morning!
44:17 <Lemon> yeah time to sleep for me
44:22 <Lemon> see you tommorow peeps
46:36 <Halcyon> Cya Lemon
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15:20 <rust_collector> well, good luck, Halcyon, with whatever it is. it does not sound fun
15:27 <rust_collector> good night
29:36 <Ampera> hahaha
29:43 <Ampera> something I bought from ebay, the seller left automated feedback
29:48 <Ampera> usually it's some stock comment or something
29:58 <Ampera> this one says "Randomly apply my stored comments to each buyer"
34:18 <Halcyon> Hahaha
34:35 <Halcyon> Can you respond to that with "I apprciate your randomly generated comments"
38:05 <Ampera> I seem to have unfortunately already given him feedback
39:04 * electrohead rubs on Halcyon
48:09 * Ampera attack-hugs electrohead 
49:13 * electrohead counter attack-hugs Ampera and his face
49:26 * Ampera sneezes, sending electrohead rocketing into the sky
49:37 <electrohead> weee
49:38 <electrohead> :p
57:03 <Halcyon> :D
59:34 * Halcyon licks electrohead 
28:07 <Halcyon> Well that killed that conversation
30:00 * Ampera plays Sam & Max
30:19 <Halcyon> https://store.steampowered.com/app/355170/Sam__Max_Hit_the_Road/
30:19 <Halcyon> ?
30:19 <eevBot> [Title] - Sam & Max Hit the Road on Steam
30:30 <Ampera> Save the World
30:41 <Halcyon> I remember that one when I was a kid
31:22 <Ampera> I also bought it, but I'm not a fan
31:27 <Ampera> it's just far too obtu6
31:33 <Ampera> er, obtuse
31:44 <Halcyon> Fucking hell slide nuts for IBM racks are expensive
33:21 <Halcyon> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/183036417439?epid=1600436487&hash=item2a9dd2159f:g:-BsAAOSwHjxexqdH
33:23 <eevBot> [Title] - 100 CAGE SLIDE NUTS 00N8709 + 100 RACK MOUNT BOLTS SCREWS 00N8709 ( NEW ) | eBay
33:24 <Halcyon> I need this type
38:27 <electrohead> my nuts slide as well
38:29 <electrohead> lol
38:37 <Halcyon> Hahah
38:38 <electrohead> I just got home from work, wee
38:44 <Halcyon> YAY
38:58 <electrohead> I just tried some home-made wine from the one customer
39:02 <electrohead> holy shit it's amazing
39:04 <electrohead> strong as fuck, too
39:26 <electrohead> it's the guy that I gave the extra bag of the spiciest jerkey, to
39:30 <electrohead> he loved it, btw
39:33 <electrohead> :D
43:35 <electrohead> something told me to hook him up, and it ended well with the trade
43:36 <electrohead> :)
45:09 <Halcyon> BRB
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50:41 <Halcyon> :D
54:30 <Halcyon> Fucking firefox
54:37 <Halcyon> Just sits there using 100% CPU all the time
55:55 <electrohead> oh?
56:05 <electrohead> on linux?
56:47 <Halcyon> Yessum
58:03 <electrohead> use strace to see what it's doing in the background
58:07 <electrohead> ever use that?
58:39 <Halcyon> Nope
59:01 <electrohead> ps aux | grep firefox
59:48 <electrohead> get the PID of the firefox process, then use "sudo strace -p <PID>"
00:09 <Halcyon> There are multiple processes
00:13 <Halcyon> Granted I have a lot of tabs open
00:20 <Halcyon> But they shouldnt be just sitting there chewing resources
01:45 <electrohead> give me the output of the 'ps aux .. ' command
17:58 <Halcyon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/768314853554520094/836437377429143602/FB_IMG_1619492570514.jpg
18:04 <Halcyon> I'll have the chicken wings
22:20 <electrohead> lol
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36:09 <Ampera> For whatever reason, Firefox isn't downloading youtube videos right
36:25 <Ampera> Most of them will play fine, but then videos will come along that just stop loading a dozen seconds in
36:31 <Ampera> if I go back to Chromium it works fine
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44:21 <guest0123> somehow I got banned from the EEVblog chat today -- is there a way to get un-banned?
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45:56 <electrohead> guest0123: what chat? the IRC chat?
45:59 <guest0123> yes
46:22 <guest0123> IRC chat https://webchat.austnet.org/?nick=WebChatUser&username=JoePublic&join=%23EEVBlog
47:36 <guest0123> I left myself connected and my wifi is kinda flaky so it d/c and reconnected throughout the day into the chat room... not sure if that caused it? when I came back it said I was banned
48:03 <electrohead> ahh, using kiwiiIRC?
48:13 <electrohead> yeah the constant parts/joins flood the channel
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49:03 <guest0123> yes it says powered by kiwi IRC.. that is the recommended way no? it says "You can use a web based client HERE (better!) "
49:19 <guest0123> https://www.eevblog.com/chat/
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49:32 <electrohead> `op
49:32 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o electrohead
49:33 Mode: (by electrohead) -b *!*@11d88534.cable.teksavvy.com
49:46 Mode: (by electrohead) -o electrohead
50:13 <electrohead> is that your hostname?
50:27 <guest0123> my ISP is teksavvy
50:36 <electrohead> ok, that's probably you, then
50:38 <electrohead> :P
50:44 <guest0123> oh ok lol
50:53 <guest0123> the only way I can connect right now is through vpn
51:06 <electrohead> do you have a more proper IRC client you can use?
51:32 <guest0123> I am not that familar with using IRC chat... is there a client you would recommend that is better than using web IRC and getting banned?
51:41 <electrohead> what operating system do you use?
51:45 <guest0123> windows 10
51:55 <electrohead> mIRC is one I know of, for windows
52:14 <guest0123> ok I will use that.. is #eevblog the channel I would connect to?
53:11 <electrohead> on the austnet network, yup!
53:49 <electrohead> and I recommend you do use a more proper nickname
54:05 <electrohead> I do think you used a more proper nick, earlier
54:58 <electrohead> https://wiki.ircnow.org/index.php?n=Irc.Guide
55:00 <eevBot> [Title] - IRCNow Wiki | Irc / A Beginner's Guide to IRC 
55:05 <electrohead> check that out, if you want
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35:14 <electrohead> Guest|80959: you keep parting and joining
35:21 <electrohead> `op
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32:54 <Halcyon> Mew
33:47 * steve30 purrs at Halcyon 
34:25 <Halcyon> :D
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41:54 <Halcyon> I'm going next door Steve, they have stupid cats
43:36 <gremlinz> with an axe?
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47:23 <T3sl4> and my sword
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56:48 * steve30 snuggles up to T3sl4 
58:57 <Andre> morning
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16:49 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
17:13 <T3sl4> JoePublic seems to be having some problems
18:53 <Kuschelpony> looks so
19:19 <Kuschelpony> what i dont know is how i could help him
19:35 <steve30> Give him some connection glue
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21:53 Kick: JoePublic was kicked by ChanOP ((T3sl4) You are banned)
22:09 <T3sl4> oh neat it's auto kick
22:19 <T3sl4> i should check the options on that to see when it times out...
23:09 <T3sl4> -hours 1 say, -nokick, and remembering to put a reason after that would be nice :P
23:38 <T3sl4> oh also it auto fills the ip stuff, good to know
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24:45 <T3sl4> ah, that makes sense
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25:04 <Kuschelpony> lets see if he is now here alive
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26:27 <T3sl4> mebbe that does it
31:15 <Kuschelpony> thats one of the three reasons why i prefer XMPP chatrooms, but still support IRC as the only other open system
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09:53 <Lemon> yoyo
15:48 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
31:15 <Lemon> hmmm so my little usb fixture seems to work, power analyzer shows positive current/voltage, but negative power, thats weird
31:38 <T3sl4> so flip it around? :P
34:36 <Lemon> yes but why is current/voltage positive ?
34:45 <Lemon> everything should be negative no ?
35:05 <Lemon> as power is siply IU, thats what I dont understand
35:53 <T3sl4> idunno, i'm not the one who programmed it
36:05 <Lemon> yeah I was just wondering if theres something I overlooked
36:23 <Lemon> I can show you the drawing for the fixture, its rather simple, its in voltage-correct config
36:41 <Lemon> https://i.imgur.com/Qt4wpPe.png
37:48 <Lemon> because if it was showing negative current and positive voltage I would understand
37:50 <Lemon> or both negative
42:53 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/n24pzv/rate_my_setup_hewlett_packard_280_integrated_desk/
42:55 <eevBot> [Title] - reddit: the front page of the internet
44:20 <Lemon> heh pretty neat I'll admit it :>
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48:47 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: great idea
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59:34 <Ysjoelfir> what the?
59:38 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't do that
59:50 <T3sl4> also, what's +o on a ban?
00:27 <Ysjoelfir> its a combination of 2 things. chanop did OP me at the same time the ban for JoePublic was lifted. why that happened at exactly the same time I have no idea
01:10 <Ysjoelfir> I should revert whatever happened there
01:18 <T3sl4> eh its in my chat buffer
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02:31 <Ysjoelfir> perfect
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05:05 <Ysjoelfir> thanks.
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17:08 <Kuschelpony> hmmm, i hope that stuff catches on https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/wireless-power-transmission-startup-emrod/msg3560929
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17:46 <Kuschelpony> could well imagine to fit an multiband receiver to an electric car and park in the right neighbourhood to charge the batteries, then bring power to home
18:03 <Kuschelpony> hihi :)
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23:52 <Lemon> so it seems for a lcr meter, accuracy limit is pretty much 0.01%
26:04 <Lemon> for better accuracy, a bridge for capcitance, inductance or whatever is needed, and thats quite a slow procedure
26:10 <Lemon> you also need a known standard ofc
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26:17 <Lemon> so 0.05% sounds pretty good :>
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29:42 <Ysjoelfir> T3sl4, I think your bans aren't long enough
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31:41 <Ysjoelfir> cu Kuschelpony
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35:37 <Lemon> sometimes I think about the prema 6.5 digits dmm I missed, for 70 euros
35:41 <Lemon> idk why I hesitated
35:55 <Lemon> I guess I didnt know at that time how expensive it was :>
38:14 <Ysjoelfir> indeed not :D
38:32 <Ysjoelfir> also Lemon, ask about the power problem. maybe our master T3sl4 has an idea I am missing right now
39:09 <T3sl4> i saw that earlier and assume someone misplaced a sign somewhere in their code
39:15 <Lemon> ha yes, if anyone knows : I made a simple fixture to connect an ammeter/voltmeter (a power analyzer, in that case) between any usb device and a power supply, to measure it
39:31 <Lemon> yeah thats really weird
40:45 <Ysjoelfir> ah. ok, then you guessed the same as I did now. :D
41:41 <Lemon> but it never did it when I was measuring my computer
41:44 <Lemon> thats weird
42:02 <Ysjoelfir> thats AC
42:25 <Lemon> hmmmm true
42:44 <Lemon> but you used the same for a long time no ?
42:51 <Lemon> the same PA I mean
44:16 <Ysjoelfir> I have used one like that for some time, yes. But not this exact one.
44:35 <Ysjoelfir> and since the LMG90 were evolving for like 30 years and none of them is the same as the other....
45:06 <Lemon> hmmm weird
45:20 <Lemon> I doubt its a code error, that would be quite a big one
45:29 <Lemon> but I also dont know what else it could be
48:45 <Ysjoelfir> maybe you have some strange flipped/crossed connections which makes everything flow in reverse, I dunno :P
49:19 <Ysjoelfir> oh, also... did you check the UDC and IDC values? Iirc you wrote only about effective values, maybe there is something strange going on
50:54 <Lemon> hmm lets see
50:59 <Lemon> I never checked
52:08 <Lemon> Ipeak= -0.741a
52:11 <Lemon> hmmmm
52:15 <Lemon> another strange thing
53:12 <Lemon> Irect = 0.731a
53:20 <Ysjoelfir> try to swap the current leads
53:32 <Lemon> no need to power off anything ?
53:38 <Ysjoelfir> eh? Ipeak negative, irect positive? wth?
53:39 <Lemon> well it will stop charging the dap
53:40 <Ysjoelfir> yes
54:11 <Lemon> heh everything positive now
54:23 <Ysjoelfir> told you :P
54:31 <Lemon> I dont get it
54:32 <Lemon> xd
54:39 <Lemon> I will show you my schematic
54:47 <Lemon> I checked 423564 times
54:57 <Lemon> https://i.imgur.com/Qt4wpPe.png
55:00 <Ysjoelfir> thats at least 3 times less than needed
55:26 <Lemon> heh we never now !
55:31 <Lemon> you see something wrong ?
55:42 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
55:47 <Lemon> :O
55:57 <Ysjoelfir> you measure the return current. thats obviously negative
56:13 <Ysjoelfir> put the ampmeter in the positive path and you're golden
56:16 <Lemon> hooooooo
56:23 <Lemon> but if I do that
56:28 <Lemon> thats not voltage correct anymore ?
56:33 <Lemon> as I measure amps first
56:34 <Ysjoelfir> why?
56:37 <Ysjoelfir> no
56:51 <Ysjoelfir> you put it in the positive path AFTER the voltmeter
56:55 <Lemon> https://i.imgur.com/LNxkAR4.png
56:59 <Lemon> like that ?
57:08 <Lemon> ha no
57:11 <Lemon> I see what you mean
57:12 <Lemon> ok
57:23 <Lemon> well, reversing leads also work right ?
57:27 <Lemon> its still voltage correct ?
57:56 <Ysjoelfir> IF there is no parasitic leakage current. otherwise you might be measuring less current going out than whats going in
58:20 <Lemon> and what could create that leakage for example ?
59:19 <Ysjoelfir> connect a 3.5mm jack to the output of the phone. bamm, "leakage"
59:49 <Ysjoelfir> take a look at your phone, I drew you something
00:05 <Lemon> yeah I just saw it
00:13 <Lemon> thats my current schematic, right ?
00:25 <Ysjoelfir> no
00:26 <Lemon> no it isnt
00:33 <Lemon> well, it is with leads reversed
00:37 <Lemon> like right now
00:39 <Lemon> am I right ?
00:47 <Ysjoelfir> it is, basicallt twisted 180 degrees around
01:20 <Ysjoelfir> and the current path swapped in polarity
02:30 <Lemon> ok so I have almost nothing to swap, lets do it
03:54 <Lemon> arf forgot that I hotglued the cables :> well only at one point tho
04:17 <Lemon> well for now I'll remember to swap the leads
04:25 <Lemon> it doesnt change anything right ? compared to your schematic
05:06 <Ysjoelfir> you still measure the return current, not the current going into the device.
05:29 <Ysjoelfir> if you could swap the leads at the USB plugs..... and swap the current leads... you are fine
06:17 <Lemon> yeah or just swap the wire you showed me
06:20 <Lemon> thats the easiest way
06:23 <Lemon> ok I will open it
09:48 <Ysjoelfir> add some IPA to the hotglue and it will pop right off
10:05 <Lemon> sadly I ran out of it :/
10:23 <Ysjoelfir> vodka will work as well
10:46 <Lemon> oof gl to find vodka in mothers house xDD
10:50 <Lemon> nah its ok its just a tiny point
10:53 <Lemon> I will use a thin blade
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26:23 <Ysjoelfir> hrmpf. I begin to notice why nobody uses swedish tanks in world of tanks.
27:19 <rust_collector> all the steel was exported, so...
27:20 <Lemon> alright it works fine
27:54 <Lemon> on tibia online I have an item that I could sell for 350+ euros
28:05 <Lemon> on one hand, I played a lot to get it
28:13 <Lemon> but on another hand, shit, 350 euros
28:44 <rust_collector> tibia is a bone, isn't it?
28:59 <Lemon> it is
29:05 <Lemon> and also an online mmorpg :>
29:40 <rust_collector> well, if you can get money out of a game, do that, because soon enough, it will be gone
31:46 <Lemon> well its 24 y/o
31:52 <Lemon> I doubt it'll disappear soon
32:59 <Ysjoelfir> 2 weeks in the future: big news, MMORPG offline after 25 years! All items deleted!
33:26 <Lemon> lol imagine
33:46 <Lemon> I easily have 600+ million gp worth of item, at 1.2 euros the million
33:53 <Lemon> im quite proud of that char
34:26 <rust_collector> ok
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22:42 <rust_collector> hmm. I am no longer a member of the church. that took some time, lol
22:53 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D
22:59 <Ysjoelfir> I haven't been for some years
23:02 <Ysjoelfir> like.... 10?
23:09 <Ysjoelfir> I should get into some pagan church, that sounds fun
24:44 <rust_collector> I left, when I was 13, but when you are 18, you get put back in there. and in case the kids want to have something to do with them, I as a parent have to be a member.... so now is a good time
27:26 <Ysjoelfir> ah. well, that makes sense
27:55 <rust_collector> no, but...
32:36 <Lemon> http://www.andeen-hagerling.com/ah2500a.htm
32:37 <eevBot> [Title] - Andeen-Hagerling 2500A Bridge
32:41 <Lemon> thats a real beauty
33:28 <Lemon> 3ppm accuracy, thats 0.0003% D:
33:46 <rust_collector> meh
34:13 <T3sl4> disappointing. i bet that thing doesn't use even a single ampere, talk about false advertising
34:18 * rust_collector coffees everyone. 
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35:22 <Lemon> pfffrt :>
36:02 <Lemon> down to 0.5 attofarads
36:13 <Lemon> whats after atto, exa ? yotta ?
36:16 <Lemon> I forgot
36:38 <rust_collector> it is not important. use complete farads
36:53 <Lemon> 9 digits of resolution via gpib, 8 on screen
37:00 <Lemon> thats an insane device, never heard of it !
37:04 <Lemon> I wonder how much it cost tho
37:15 <rust_collector> seems like it is too late now...
38:00 <Lemon> also im reading that with averaging, you increase resolution and accuracy
38:05 <Lemon> but to what point maximum ?
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38:11 <Lemon> I need to find a nice paper about it
38:27 <rust_collector> yes, do that, lol. did you sell your card yet?
38:27 <Lemon> I know we do that for frequency measurements, with gate time if I understood right
38:43 <Lemon> nah rusty I told you, replacement comes on monday :>
38:48 <Lemon> and I want to test it before
39:26 <rust_collector> blah blah... just sell it. you can use any random old confuser until you find an old card
39:51 <Lemon> well sadly I have nothing else here
39:56 <Lemon> besides old isa cards lol
40:04 <rust_collector> computers are everywhere
40:45 <Lemon> yeah its the case here but only oldass things
41:06 <Lemon> and you know me, I like taking my time before ordering something, especially a 500+ euros thing
41:10 <Lemon> thats a lot of money for me
41:11 <rust_collector> that will get you by, until you get a new older card
41:31 <Lemon> you see with the usb analyzer ? good thing I waited long enough, for sure its a nice gadget, but I saved 50 euros
41:45 <Lemon> nah anyway. monday is soon
41:50 <rust_collector> well... I told you to not get that
41:56 <Lemon> and I listenned :>
42:02 <rust_collector> good boyyo.
42:04 <Lemon> im quite happy about the little fixture I built
42:11 <Lemon> besides that I cant use it with my phone for example
42:17 <Lemon> I need to short out data pins
42:34 <Lemon> but it requires to disassamble it and redo all heat shrinking stuff etc
42:36 <Lemon> thats annoying
42:39 <rust_collector> oh, on tuesday, it is the bornday of the shashlik king...
42:46 <rust_collector> ok, pics?
43:45 <Lemon> sure gimme a sec
44:46 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/undefined
44:48 <Lemon> erf
44:52 <Lemon> https://imgur.com/ikLxZYA
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45:21 <rust_collector> mmkay
45:32 <rust_collector> put a switch in the data lines?
46:17 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/gallery/MybeSxg
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46:51 <Ysjoelfir> bwahahaha
47:00 <Lemon> the fuck im looking at
47:16 <Lemon> yeah I need to open it, add the two prongs for data and short them etc
47:18 <Ysjoelfir> the precedure of filling a plushie
47:23 <Lemon> redo the thing basically
47:37 * Ampera wakes up
48:33 <rust_collector> nothing to see here, roll over and go back to sleep
49:28 <Lemon> in possible applications of the 2500a capacitance bridge, theres this
49:30 <Lemon> Displacement and strain measurements. Very small changes in dimensions are measurable, approaching the diameter of an atomic nucleus. (This is less than a millionth of the wavelength of visible light.)
49:41 <Lemon> I don't understand how you could use the bridge for that ?
50:07 <Ysjoelfir> god damn it... playing with those swedish tanks feels like I ordered a tank on wish ._.
50:15 <rust_collector> just buy it, and you will find something to use it for
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50:30 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir what tank is it?
51:34 <Ysjoelfir> Strv m/38 and if that one is broken as usual, a Strv m/21
53:52 <rust_collector> I guess that was something, when it was new, and people were mostly throwing rocks at it
54:34 <rust_collector> the 21 looks like a shoe on tracks
58:28 <rust_collector> interesting story about those shoe-tanks
59:10 <rust_collector> almost 10 tons, tall, narrow, and 55 horses
59:31 * Ampera rolls over, falls back asleep on top of rust_collector 
59:54 <rust_collector> it is ok, you won't mess up my hair
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