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05:32 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rusty
05:38 * Ampera hugs the Ysjoelfir 
05:42 <Ampera> ready to lose again later today?
05:50 <Ysjoelfir> lose what?
05:53 <Ampera> ESC
06:07 * Ysjoelfir looks at his keyboard, irritated
06:15 <Ampera> I swear I must be the only one who watches it...
06:21 <Ampera> am I that gay?
06:28 <Ysjoelfir> oh!
06:38 <Ysjoelfir> as you said gay I got it. you mean that music thing?
06:42 <Ampera> hahahahahaha
06:43 <Ampera> yes
06:46 <Ysjoelfir> I didn't even know that it is today
06:52 <Ampera> the final
07:06 <rust_collector> woohoo! that means it will be over soon!
07:11 <Ampera> lol
07:29 <Ampera> I haven't seen Germany's act yet
07:34 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I think we will loose, as usual.
07:37 <Ampera> apparently San Marino made it to the final, which is interesting
07:39 <Ysjoelfir> i haven't either
07:41 <rust_collector> that is weird, the wife is usually gay anough for that
07:41 <Ampera> I'd love to see them win
07:43 <Ysjoelfir> but we will loose no matter what
12:27 <Ysjoelfir> I am still not done with the damn nas problematic. I am so sick and tired of it :D I consider getting that https://geizhals.de/qnap-turbo-station-ts-351-2g-a1902059.html?hloc=de thing, put some HDDs into that and be done.
12:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - QNAP Turbo Station TS-351-2G ab € 343,50 (2021) | Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland
13:45 <Ysjoelfir> though I don't know if I have so much money at hand.... maybe more like that https://geizhals.de/terramaster-f4-series-f4-210-1gb-a2183354.html?hloc=de
13:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - TerraMaster F4-210, Realtek RTD1296, 1GB RAM ab € 219,99 (2021) | Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland
14:22 <Ysjoelfir> and put the bouncer on a raspi or whatever
14:32 <rust_collector> interesting to see the power consumption difference there
14:48 <Ysjoelfir> you mean between those two I linked?
14:51 <rust_collector> yes
15:25 <Ysjoelfir> the expensive one has 2 SSD slots that it uses as a kind of cache, maybe thats why?
16:10 <rust_collector> or, the expensive one has a "big" intel blahblah, and the other one is a little arm cpu.
16:17 <Ysjoelfir> that as well
17:38 <Ysjoelfir> otherwise that... https://geizhals.de/qnap-turbo-station-ts-328-2g-a1787358.html?hloc=de looks nice and looks like it has most of the stuff the expensive one has. but.... its just a bit cheaper anyways
17:39 <EEVBot> [Title] - 429 Too Fast, you are temporarily banned
17:51 <Ampera> TOO FAST YSJOELFIR
17:53 <Ampera> YOU ARE BANNED
17:59 <Ampera> /ban Ysjoelfir reason: too fast
18:00 <rust_collector> BAN BAN BAN!!!
18:14 <Ysjoelfir> woohoo!
18:29 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) +b [email protected]
18:37 Mode: (by Ysjoelfir) -b [email protected]
19:01 <Ysjoelfir> lol. I somehow expected Ampera to kick me just after I baned myself :P
19:06 <rust_collector> you are getting complicated
19:10 <Ampera> I was very tempted
20:09 <Ysjoelfir> so.... what should I do....
20:25 <Ampera> start a band
21:28 <Ysjoelfir> ok. I do that just after I decided what NAS I should get
21:41 <Ampera> a nashole
22:32 <Ysjoelfir> cool. which model?
22:57 <rust_collector> doesn't anyone make a nas hat or whatever for a pi? I mean one with regular drives
23:01 <Ampera> a model disck
23:16 <Ampera> depends on how badass of a NAS you want
25:48 <Ysjoelfir> well..... tbh I just want that thing to be able to give me my data when I need it without waiting like 20 years. I need at least 2 disks, but 3 would be usefull I think
26:24 <Ampera> fast storage?
26:27 <Ampera> I wish I knew what that's like
26:34 <Ampera> all my VMs don't go faster than 20MB/s
27:06 <Ysjoelfir> a bite more than that would indeed be nice
27:26 <Kuschelpony> lol of the day:
27:52 <Kuschelpony> My amplifier has no distortion, it adds harmonis to brighten and warm the sound
28:47 <Ysjoelfir> aaaah, yes. thats what an audiophile would say :D
29:14 <Kuschelpony> no, audiophiles would never say< this
29:23 <Kuschelpony> but audiophools say it
29:35 <Kuschelpony> i DO make a distinction between them
29:44 <Ampera> audio makes me moist
29:48 <Ysjoelfir> oh yes, you are absolutely right there
29:49 <Ampera> what do you call that
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30:26 <Kuschelpony> 2Audiophil" is someone who enjoys music, and not someone who gets fooled
30:33 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
30:38 <Ysjoelfir> I would call myself that
31:05 <rust_collector> hummm
31:29 <Kuschelpony> im perhaps also close
31:48 <rust_collector> I just like to listen to some sorts of noises
31:54 <Ysjoelfir> lol
34:04 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.qnap.com/en/product/ts-230 what do you guys think about that cute thing?
34:05 * Ampera sneezes
34:05 <EEVBot> [Title] - TS-230 | Enjoy a smart and fun lifestyle with the budget-friendly file center and home media hub | QNAP
34:12 <Ysjoelfir> Gesundheit, Ampera
34:21 <Ampera> god bless your soul, my child
34:55 <Ampera> They say when you sneeze, your demons escape your body through your nose
34:58 <Ampera> but no matter how much I sneeze
35:02 <Ampera> the voices in my head never stop screaming
35:04 <Ampera> and crying
35:09 <Ysjoelfir> who should bless me?
35:17 <rust_collector> that is because you open your mouth
35:42 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir how much is that little thing?
37:32 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
41:35 <Ysjoelfir> 160 with shipping
41:57 <rust_collector> mmmmhrrf
42:05 <rust_collector> well, it is sort of cute...
43:48 <Ysjoelfir> but
46:25 <rust_collector> meh, I have no idea. all nas things seems to be sort of...crap. Butt, I never had one, so
47:01 <Jens> Your intuition is right. To do NAS properly, you have to roll your own.
47:09 <Ysjoelfir> thats what I fear as well.
47:21 <Ampera> I believe that too, but people don't like it when I tell them that
47:31 <Ampera> and I tend to take things pretty far as far as "rolling my own"
47:36 <rust_collector> but then you are suddenly sliding over to big chunky server things
47:47 <Ampera> hehehe yeah
48:34 <rust_collector> I have a great server, I am just waiting for the power company to install a second transformer for it
48:35 <Jens> I use Gentoo on my NAS box, like a crazy person, but user friendlier options exist. Like FreeNAS.
49:09 <rust_collector> well, if he only wants to store files... it does not take much special os stuff
50:15 <Ysjoelfir> I think my problem is actually pretty simple. I don't need much, but I am interested in technology and like to play with stuff. BUT: the day only has 24 hours. so.... maybe I should only get what I NEED and not what I CAN.
50:50 <rust_collector> yes, but why a nas, and not a regular computer?
51:30 <Ysjoelfir> because.
51:34 <Jens> https://www.jensrex.dk/img/IMG_0823.JPG <-- not huge
51:35 <Ysjoelfir> :)
51:46 <Jens> Doesn't have a proper home yet after the move :/
52:01 <rust_collector> but it has a cat pole thing
52:20 <Jens> Cat support is an optional, but recommended, extra.
54:54 <rust_collector> but 2 drives. is that enough for you? I guess you can get large-ish drives now, but
57:05 <Ysjoelfir> well... I was wondering if I should instead get bigger 2.5" drives for my 2.5" quad bay and get rid of the nas completely. instead get a freakin huge external HDD and use that for backup.
57:50 <Ampera> you call that a NAS?
57:51 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315713347368648705/833077598896390184/20210417_130758.jpg
57:53 <Ampera> this is a NAS
57:56 <Ampera> (top one more specifically)
59:37 <rust_collector> complicated... https://imgur.com/TcOBGXt.png
59:39 <Ysjoelfir> what did you hide on that desk there?
59:52 <Ampera> iirc it was a sticker for the logo of the company I work for
00:06 <Ysjoelfir> lol rusty
00:08 <Ampera> just happened to be on the table
00:11 <rust_collector> wow, you have stickers...
00:15 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, ah I see :D
03:36 <Jens> rust_collector: It takes 6 drives. I'll link case after dinner
04:35 <rust_collector> Jens I don't care. I don't want a nas. I only want kebab. I think Ysjoelfir could be interested, maybe
05:06 * Ampera makes a rust_collector kebab, serves it to rust_collector 
12:11 Quit: Chipguy ([email protected]) Quit: Connection closed by foreign host
12:15 <rust_collector> I think bigger drives are annoying. what if you have to change one, then you spend a week moving stuff to it
12:38 <rust_collector> more smaller ones just seems like a better idea, imo
18:11 <Jens> https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-304/white/
18:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - Node 304 — Fractal Design
18:57 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I agree, which is why I have 4x 500GB in this PC atm (+ the 280GB M.2 SSDs)
20:15 <rust_collector> I had to look it up, but I have a "217"G drive, and use 49% of it, lol
20:44 <Jens> I just have 2*2TB + 2*1TB drives.
20:47 <Ysjoelfir> But I could replace 2x 500GB RAID0 that hold my games with eg 2x 2TB independant drives, one for the games and one for a part of the stuff from the NAS. The other two 500GB are for my work stuff and in RAID1, but with a good backup solution I could replace them with 2 more 2GB, use one for the work stuff, the other one for storage, and regularely copy the stuff from the work drive to the 2x2gb storage
20:55 <Jens> The 1TB's were dumpster dives.
21:23 <rust_collector> I guess 2gb drives are still "small" enough
21:37 <Ysjoelfir> TB I meant to type
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44:35 <Watcher> yo yo
45:03 <Ysjoelfir> no no
46:24 <rust_collector> humm, yes, but 2tb should still not take ages to move around
46:24 <Watcher> Ysjoelfir: have you already a new job?
46:43 <rust_collector> ....already....
46:53 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, yes, I agree. I think that is the ideal size.
47:28 <Ysjoelfir> Watcher, no, been looking since march last year.
47:41 <Watcher> sade
47:42 <Ysjoelfir> got another "nope!" yesterday though
48:03 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, seems like I am just not good enough
49:29 <rust_collector> do you give them all the info about you?
50:57 <rust_collector> I think companies now like people who give almost no info at all.
52:31 <Ysjoelfir> hm. maybe I should do that
52:49 <rust_collector> well, it can not get much worse?
52:56 <Watcher> rusty why? espacally in EE. where the poeple like more facts and data
53:35 <Ysjoelfir> probably because the job... "interviews" and decisions aren't done by engineers
53:47 <rust_collector> Watcher I don't know. it seems to be a company sort of thing. if you were talking to some guy working on his own, then sure
55:57 <rust_collector> if it is a popular job, so they get plenty of people applying for it, I doubt they look at each application for more than 10 seconds, on the first screening
58:42 <rust_collector> https://ibb.co/ChbbZCG
58:43 <EEVBot> [Title] - 20210522-175729 — ImgBB
59:12 <Ysjoelfir> nice! That looks great, I want one as well :D
59:35 <coppice> rust_collector: I've seen academics quietly saying that the push for diversity, inclusivity and equity statements from applicants for university posts is mostly so they can throw out most of the CVs on a mindless scan
00:07 <rust_collector> that makes sense
02:16 <rust_collector> I have never even written a cv. I tried once, and the guy just said "this is not a cv" so I said "ok"
03:39 <rust_collector> well, I still got the job, so...
05:45 <rust_collector> Inventor of the free green energy device for black lesbians might work?
10:28 <Ysjoelfir> as a job for me? yes, could work
11:22 <coppice> free green energy device == stolen vegetable?
28:36 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
41:43 <rust_collector> thisgs do not have to mean anything, but it sounds good
42:14 * rust_collector is half-frying mushrooms
42:30 * Ysjoelfir fries the other half
42:57 * rust_collector puts the first half in Ysjoelfir half
44:21 <Ysjoelfir> yay, I got.... either three quarters, or all!
46:29 <rust_collector> you got at least half of 16/8 of them
53:12 * rust_collector has a werthers original, and tell the kids to shut up or go home
53:25 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha :D
54:43 <rust_collector> pizza is in the incinerator....
54:56 <Ysjoelfir> nice! we will probably have Flammkuchen this evening
55:49 <Watcher> bye go out for a walk i come maybe back
55:54 Quit: Watcher ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
56:00 <rust_collector> that sounds very teutonic inspired
56:12 <Ysjoelfir> it is
56:18 <Ysjoelfir> lemon will probably enjoy it
56:31 <rust_collector> yeah, he should
56:31 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of that, where is he? I haven't seen him buy anything today
57:18 <rust_collector> I guess his isp blocked him, because of gambling problems or similar issues
58:06 <Ysjoelfir> ah. sounds reasonable
58:39 <rust_collector> it does, actually, lol
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06:26 <rust_collector> hmm, Lemon is in his moms birthday.
06:34 <rust_collector> that is my story
16:17 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i want you to play with my dingaling
16:43 <Nothing\> oh that reminds me, you guys hear that danny dasterson got charged with 3 counts of rape :(
16:47 <rust_collector> I do not doubt that. do you have a link
16:50 <Nothing\> *masterson
17:03 <rust_collector> no, and I have no idea who that is either
17:07 <Nothing\> really? he never came off as rapey to me
17:17 <Nothing\> what's his face is also facing rape allegations
17:19 <Nothing\> james franco
17:30 <Nothing\> and seth rogan helped him cover it up ALLEGEDLY
17:49 <rust_collector> sure, I don't know who that is either
17:50 <Nothing\> i mean, he had to have known about it if it was going on in HIS company
18:14 <Nothing\> it's just funny cuz when harvey weinstein had his scandal, seth rogan was calling out all of the people who hid it
18:22 <Nothing\> rust_collector, seth rogan isn't bad
18:50 <rust_collector> I DON*T KNOW WHO ANY OF THE PEOPLE YOU MENTION ARE!!!, lol
18:50 <Nothing\> he's one of those guys like will ferrel where everyone thinks he's funny, but he doesn't really do anything particularly funny
19:01 <Nothing\> lol
19:07 <Nothing\> consider yourself lucky then
19:35 <rust_collector> I am reading about the spanish road, which seems like a much better use of my time
19:44 <Nothing\> definitely would be
19:56 <Nothing\> i always feel like unless it's non-fiction, reading is wasteful
20:10 <Nothing\> especially given how much effort it requires me to do it
20:32 <Nothing\> i have a hard time reading even stuff i enjoy, nevermind stuff i don't give a damn about
21:11 <rust_collector> books don't come with text to voice support, so... meh
21:43 <Nothing\> i've never found a TTS engine i liked
21:54 <Nothing\> i've always had to seek out actual audiobooks
22:16 <Nothing\> i especially like the ones that are dramatized, so long as they're unabridged
22:32 <Nothing\> i downloaded an audiobook of fear and loathing and las vegas that was heavily dramatized
22:50 <Nothing\> what it didn't mention was it was also heavily abridged, the run time was barely 2 hours :/
23:10 <Nothing\> it's not a super long book, maybe 200 pages or so, but that should still be a few hours
24:49 <rust_collector> I always mix up german onions with whatever random things I think of at the time I read it. pretty annoying
25:13 <Nothing\> onions?
25:16 <Nothing\> nouns?
25:34 <Lemon> waddup peeps
25:42 <Nothing\> hey le mon
25:43 <rust_collector> you know, you have Lemon and onion,
25:56 <rust_collector> and other words
25:56 <Lemon> yes I love flamenkuche, and no birthday today I was just mega-tired as I didnt sleep last night due to neck pain
26:02 <Lemon> how you all doing ? :>
26:08 <Nothing\> for some reason i've had that animal crackers song stuck in my head for the last week
26:12 <Nothing\> it's super annoying
26:17 <Nothing\> but otherwise i'm well
26:22 <Nothing\> how bout you?
27:34 <Lemon> heh I see :> im doing better, and I quickly tried my ac/dc clamp today
27:56 <Nothing\> right on
28:12 <rust_collector> I need a flammkuchen spatula thing... and to get the weeds out of the flammen-place
28:39 <Nothing\> german is so cacophonic
28:55 <Nothing\> i'd rate it as the single worst sounding language ever if there were such a scale
29:07 <rust_collector> and you would be wrong
29:11 <rust_collector> but ok
29:20 <Nothing\> especially after spending a summer listening to my grandparents speak it while i was on drugs
29:32 <Nothing\> the sound of it alone was enough to screw up my head
29:37 <Nothing\> or maybe it was the drugs lol
30:10 <Nothing\> actually i guess those jewish languages, ironically, are pretty cacophonic as well
30:15 <Lemon> canadians speaking french is the worst
30:18 <Lemon> quebecois
30:25 <coppice> Only German can make a love poem sounds like a declaration of war
30:46 <Nothing\> i've still yet to know of any differences between quebecois and france french
31:03 <Nothing\> coppice, not true, russians
31:21 <coppice> Nothing\: how about Spanish vs Latin Spanish? They can barely understand each other
31:26 <rust_collector> the que-language is spoken in canada, french is spoken anywhere else
31:32 <Nothing\> russian love poems would sound like death threats
31:46 <Nothing\> coppice, i'm not nearly as familiar with spanish
31:55 <coppice> Nothing\: a lot of women seem to love the sound of Russian
31:56 <Nothing\> but french is my second strongest language
32:05 <Nothing\> coppice, yeah i actually enjoy it
32:29 <Nothing\> a lot of slavic languages are cacophonic too
32:55 <Nothing\> it's funny, i looked up an example of what english sounds like to a non-english speaker a while back
33:04 <coppice> Irish is an interesting one. In the areas where a male Irish accent sounds the most aggressive, the women sound really sweet
33:06 <Lemon> well besides a few words theres no big difference, besides the horrible accent lol
33:08 <Nothing\> it sounds pretty much like the sims do in.. well... the sims
33:48 <Nothing\> i figured out you can make jibberish of any language if you just take some common sounds from it and put them together to form fake words
34:49 <Nothing\> i find it interesting that despite being so small, england has so many different accents, just england. Meanwhile Australia's so big but only seems to have the one accent
35:03 <Nothing\> i could be mistaken cuz i'm not a native, but that certainly seems like the case
35:27 <Nothing\> i wonder if that's down to the length of time it's existed, or population size or density or what
35:41 <coppice> Nothing\: I think you need to look at the date
35:53 <rust_collector> maybe because australia has a population equal to a cuty in england?
36:05 <Nothing\> probably population size and density since the US has existed about just as long but it's completely shed its English accent AND come up with a lot of novel accents
36:24 <Nothing\> meanwhile australian even still sounds pretty close to english accents to me
36:43 <Nothing\> coppice, that was the sound of what you said going over my head
36:52 <Nothing\> or at least of the sonic boom of it
37:29 <Nothing\> rust_collector, so was canada
37:37 <coppice> its not about population size of density. its about isolation. English accents developed when most people travelled only a short distance in their entire life. Australian wasn't that well developed by the start of radio and other mass communications that break down isolation
37:54 <Nothing\> we're still run by the queen and even still have a governor general who outranks trudeau
38:15 <coppice> the toilet cleaners should outrank Trudeau
38:26 <Nothing\> which i was surprised about, i knew they queen was above him, but that she never used her power. But I didn't know we had a governor general still
38:28 <rust_collector> any squirrel outranks trudeau
38:37 <Nothing\> lol
38:44 <Nothing\> canada squirrel > trudeau
41:00 <Nothing\> i hate these games on steam that are "early access" but for over a year you just see a minor update released like once a week, but nothing with any real substance
41:25 <Nothing\> i'm always so iffy about buying early access games on steam, but some of them are really terrific
41:36 <rust_collector> then.... stop?
41:47 <Nothing\> others are just literally not even finished games
42:30 <rust_collector> I think I am going outside, and see if I can rescue the oven outside...
42:42 <Nothing\> they just put out a half finished game and then make more money cultivating the hysteria of release with new updates
42:57 <Nothing\> enjoy the outdoors, dude
43:07 <Nothing\> hopefully i'll get enough energy to do that soon
43:16 <Nothing\> i'm feeling rather... what's that word
43:19 <Nothing\> anhedonic
43:20 <rust_collector> well, Nothing\ it sounds like you know that... so whyyy do you keep giving them anything?
43:39 <Nothing\> rust_collector, cuz like i said, some of the games are absolutely brilliant
43:53 <Nothing\> -but these days i usually just pirate a game and play it a bit to see if it's worth my money
44:05 <Nothing\> but sometimes you just can't find a game if it's too obscure
44:29 <Nothing\> like good like finding astra-256. Though that's actually a good game. If you could call it that.
44:54 <Nothing\> it's basically an 8 bit computer with 2kb of memory that you can program in assembly
45:13 <rust_collector> yes, I know you like weird non-games
45:32 <Nothing\> i finally wrote a program for it the other day
45:50 <Nothing\> heh you interact with it like an altair-8800 or pdp
46:00 <Nothing\> with the lights and switches
46:56 <Nothing\> which made me discover an interesting problem with writing a program directly to RAM. If I make a mistake, I can't exactly delete a value and then have the value of everything thereafter decrement so the rest of the code fits evenly
47:36 <Nothing\> the only way i've figured out to essentially 'backspace' a value in memory is to just write a NOP into it
48:08 <Nothing\> but with the restrictions to resources they had back in the day, I could see using NOP in place of backspace being really wasteful
48:30 <Nothing\> for example if i had something like
50:01 <Ysjoelfir> you must take yor joy immediately!
50:12 * Ysjoelfir talkes in weird electronic voices from.. that game
50:16 <Nothing\> $00:36 $01:35 $02:76 $03:22 then I wanted to remove the contents of $02, I can't think of any easy way to remove that, then decrement the address of eveyrthing ahead of it so it all fits snugly
50:38 <Nothing\> know what game had good electronic voices?
50:44 <Nothing\> impossible mission on c64
50:56 <Nothing\> or I think they made it for the NES as well.
51:07 <Nothing\> I know there were a few C64 games they ported to NES
51:21 <Nothing\> like MULE. MULE was one of the best retro strategy games ever
51:41 <Nothing\> and the first strategy game i ever played. Before I even knew what a strategy game was.
52:06 <Nothing\> It's one of those games that's so good, that I can still whip it out and play it from time to time
52:23 <Nothing\> which reminds me, i've been wanting to play castlevania 3 lately
52:38 <Nothing\> but I could never abide by the controls in those games on the NES
53:05 <Nothing\> I just can't stand platformers where you can't control yourself while you're in the air. Even if it's more realistic that way.
53:36 <Nothing\> or where you have slowly go up or down stairs and can't attack or jump or do anything while you're on them
54:02 <Nothing\> man i'm bored as hell
54:24 <Nothing\> maybe i should play LoZ Breath of Wild
55:07 <Nothing\> hands down probably the best game i've ever played in my entire life. Spent over 350 hours playing through it only to start over again immediately after.
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00:30 <Watcher> i'am back
07:24 <Lord_of_nothing> i watch esc soon
07:53 <Ysjoelfir> woah! you beat Ampera in gayiness than?
08:02 <Ysjoelfir> also, wb Watcher
09:21 <Nothing\> oh, you guys hear bill and melinda gates are getting a divorce lol
09:35 <Nothing\> i dunno what's wrong with melinda, but she's not going for anything
09:50 <Nothing\> apparently he cheated on her
10:06 <Nothing\> he even hung out with what's his face, that super perv guy
10:10 <Nothing\> michael....
10:26 <Nothing\> died suspiciously in prison
10:35 <Nothing\> i keep wanting to say michael phelps lol
11:09 <Ysjoelfir> I have no idea what you are talking about. sounds like people.
11:21 <Nothing\> you would if i said his name
11:42 <Nothing\> was involved in a big child sex trafficking thing
11:50 <Nothing\> very rich
12:10 <Nothing\> prince andrew was heavily implicated in his operation
12:18 <Nothing\> ugh this is gonna bug me until i remember
12:27 <Nothing\> EPSTEIN!
12:31 <Nothing\> that's it
12:33 <Ysjoelfir> I highly doubt that I would
12:35 <Nothing\> just like the virus
12:42 <Nothing\> michael epstein
12:48 <Ysjoelfir> see, no idea who that is. I don't care about people
12:49 <Nothing\> you've never heard of him?
12:54 <Nothing\> good
12:59 <Nothing\> the less, the better
13:10 <Nothing\> i'd never heard of him until his arrest
13:40 <Nothing\> yeah he was a billionaire whose gf ran a child sex trafficking ring to fulfill his fantasies
13:51 <Lord_of_nothing> the show start in afiew minutes!
13:54 <Nothing\> he got busted and let off with a slap on the wrist
14:08 <Nothing\> then he got busted again last year or something and it was a huge deal in the media
14:14 <Lord_of_nothing> https://tvthek.orf.at/live/Mr-Song-Contest-proudly-presents-3/14120191
14:16 <EEVBot> [Title] - Livestream - Mr. Song Contest proudly presents (3) vom 22.05.2021 um 20.15 Uhr – ORF-TVthek
14:25 <Nothing\> and supposedly hung himself in federal prison while supposedly on suicide watch
14:59 <Nothing\> but a lot of people think he was murdered, either so he wouldn't talk about other people or just cuz he was a piece of shit kiddy diddler
15:23 <Nothing\> cuz he was supposed to be checked on every 15 minutes in his cell
15:35 <Ysjoelfir> didn't you say that it is good that I don't know about that guy?
15:36 <Nothing\> and wasn't supposed to have anything he could hang himself with
15:46 <Nothing\> yup
15:53 Quit: knarfS ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
15:58 <Ysjoelfir> then... why do you tell me the story of his life?
16:15 <Ysjoelfir> so now I know about him
16:18 <Ysjoelfir> which is bad
16:18 <Nothing\> dunno, i guess it's interesting on a morbid level
16:43 <Nothing\> oh i just meant it was good that you didn't initially know about him cuz the fewer people who know about people like this the better
16:46 <Lord_of_nothing> YEY the ESC Party start!!!
16:48 <Ysjoelfir> interesting.... maybe, if I would care for people :D but that is nobody I know, so meh.
16:55 <Nothing\> but in retrospect, i think the more people who know about these people the better
16:59 <Ysjoelfir> Lord_of_nothing, do you make a contest with Ampera?
17:18 <Nothing\> as unpleasant and terrifying as it is, it's best to be aware that these types of people exist so we can help protect others from them
17:41 <Nothing\> Lord_of_nothing, lol your name confuses me when people talk to you
17:56 <Nothing\> your name is like, me + LOTR
18:28 <steve30> hehe, i didn't notice the two nothings :)
18:47 <Nothing\> i still need an alternate name to use when i can't use the name Nothing\ and Nothing is taken
18:52 <Ysjoelfir> steve, were you sleeping? :D
19:02 <Nothing\> i usually use HaloNothing, but that just doesn't roll off the tongue right
19:06 <Nothing\> you know what i mean?
19:49 <Nothing\> meant to be a reference again to Nothing Records how Reznor used to label his albums Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, etc as he released them
19:58 <Nothing\> he still does, for all i know
20:59 <DHess_US> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692171184045031466/845725216101630022/186453576_1756584004541533_5313183154789742766_n.png
21:02 <Nothing\> or alternatively i'll use the name Execrable_Piety, but now that I'm not atheist, even though I'm not Christian, the name still feels blasphemous to me
21:30 <Nothing\> although when i think about it, i really see nothing blasphemous about the name itself
21:34 <Nothing\> what do you guys think?
21:51 <Nothing\> lol DHess_US
22:08 <Nothing\> i've been wondering what self driving cars will do to the insurance industry
22:34 <Nothing\> liability insurance will be absolutely useless if you're not the one driving your car
23:45 <Nothing\> or what about cars that can be driven remotely. So if say, lil helga needs a ride to her rugby game and you have to prepare dinner, you can just give her a ride right from your living room couch
24:01 <Watcher> and who onws the car after dumping the guy
24:12 <Nothing\> then again, if your car can drive itself, why not ust program it to do the same thing?
24:22 <Nothing\> Watcher, his exwife
24:42 <Nothing\> oh snap
24:54 <Nothing\> i just realized i can stop paying child support in october
24:55 <Nothing\> yay!
24:56 <Nothing\> :D
25:43 <Nothing\> makes me feel sad and kind of old knowing my daughter's 18 and i haven't seen her since she was a kid but still
25:46 <Nothing\> the money thing's nice
27:04 <Nothing\> i'm so happy, i've been working on tapering off of my one medication and i've got my dose down to less than half it was initially
27:07 <Nothing\> almost a quarter
27:26 <Nothing\> i feel like i'm close to abstaining from it completely
27:53 <Nothing\> it just sucks cuz it takes 3 or 4 days of not taking it before i notice anything
29:25 Quit: flyback ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
29:32 <Nothing\> it also sucks that i had to start smoking pot and spend all of my money to get here, too. But I've felt trapped being on this stuff. So it's been a huge relief just knowing how much progress i've made and that it's possible for me to do.
30:18 <Nothing\> such a HUGE relief. Words don't do it justice.
30:33 <Watcher> i will go now for today bye bye
30:37 Quit: Watcher ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
30:48 <Nothing\> so long
30:51 <DHess_US> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a4EEWOQ_700bwp.webp
31:23 <Nothing\> DHess_US, lol it took my mom forever to get that
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31:43 <Nothing\> i've never been a fan of round asses like that
32:05 <Nothing\> i like a nice ass, but it doesn't have to a gigantic, perfect spheroid
32:24 <Nothing\> same with tits
32:50 <Nothing\> i think a b-c cup is just right. Don't need a woman with tits so big that she can't even walk properly. Literally.
32:59 <DHess_US> Nothing\, it is a geometry and math thing, https://comment-cdn.9gag.com/image?ref=9gag.com#https://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/azAdzzK/aDVNjlG1_700w_0.jpg
33:00 <flyback> yeah those aren't sexy
33:00 <EEVBot> [Title] - 9GAG.COM
33:30 <Nothing\> lol DHess_US
33:39 <Nothing\> who knew that fibonacci was a perv
34:07 <Nothing\> flyback, exactly. Like with big asses like that. To me it just looks like a literal balloon
34:45 <Nothing\> hrm i should figure out how to upload code to this development board i have
35:19 <Nothing\> I got an SBC dev board for a 65c816. Which is basically a CMOS version of a 16 bit version of the 6502
35:33 <Nothing\> or the 65816 was the CPU used in the SNES
35:37 <flyback> yep
36:02 <Nothing\> i was surprised how similar the cpu in the SNES was to the NES. it's basically the exact same thing as the 6502
36:37 <Nothing\> in fact, i dunno about the NMOS version. But the CMOS version boots to 6502 emulation mode by default on powerup
36:58 <flyback> I don't think there was a nmos 65c816
37:02 <Nothing\> so for all intents and pursposes, you can use it exactly as a 6502
37:17 <Nothing\> no, the C denotes it's cmos
37:31 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
37:35 <Nothing\> 65816 is the nmos version, 65C816 is the cmos version
37:37 <Nothing\> heya Ampera
37:42 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
37:46 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera <3
37:52 <Nothing\> i'm doing great man, thanks for asking
37:55 <Nothing\> how are you?
38:05 <Ampera> just woke up from a nap
38:10 <Ampera> about to go watch the eurovision song contest
38:13 Join: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
38:40 <Nothing\> flyback, heh i've got like 3 discreet 6502 chips. A CMOS one, and 2 which at least one is counterfeit
38:46 <Nothing\> hey kugelpony
39:08 <Nothing\> i always thought kugel was a funny word
39:27 <flyback> countrerfit or just cheap knockoff?
39:36 <Kuschelpony> Hello
39:47 <Ysjoelfir> Kugelpony.... Woult that be the chubby version of Kuschelpony?
39:49 <Kuschelpony> no i am not a spherical pony
39:58 <Kuschelpony> yep thgat would be
40:08 <Nothing\> flyback, i figure they're probably rejects from the plants that people scooped up
40:11 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
40:36 <Nothing\> like the one I have, the only markings it has is MOS 6502
40:43 <Nothing\> no datecode, or anything else
40:48 <flyback> speaking of
40:52 <Nothing\> and the MOS is barely stylized at all
40:57 <flyback> can't believe the early tv programming guides
41:06 <flyback> used rooms of atari 800s and apple II's
41:12 <Nothing\> tvs could be programmed?
41:19 <flyback> then amiga and then pentium II with NT
41:20 <flyback> no
41:23 <flyback> TV PROGRAM GUIDE
41:31 <flyback> THE THING THAT SCROLLS THE CHANNELS AND WHAT IS SHOW
41:32 <Nothing\> i still don't follow
41:34 <flyback> YOU STUPID CANUCK
41:46 <Nothing\> whoa easy there buddy
41:57 <flyback> yeah I know I called you canadian
42:01 <flyback> take that
42:04 <flyback> :P
42:17 <Nothing\> i'm just asking you to clarify what you were saying. not insulting your dead grandmother.
42:18 <flyback> hang on I will show you what I am takling about
42:24 <Nothing\> alrighty
42:33 <Nothing\> i think i know what you mean though
42:53 <Nothing\> like on a satellite dish or digital box when you press "guide" the guide that comes up
43:48 <flyback> yes
44:00 <flyback> first ones ran on consumer computers
44:00 <Nothing\> i also just remembered the actual TV Guide channel
44:01 <flyback> :P
44:07 <Nothing\> did you guys have something like that?
44:09 <flyback> yeah that was preview channel
44:13 <flyback> tv guide bought it up
44:19 <flyback> that's who I was talking about
44:23 <Nothing\> ah lol
44:36 <Nothing\> yeah i never gave any thought to the actual hardware that would run something like that
44:37 <flyback> by the time it was tv guide it was running on specialized pc hardware
44:39 <flyback> called hollywood
44:45 <flyback> but the early ones
44:50 <flyback> atari 800
44:52 <Nothing\> you wouldn't think it'd need to be anything fancy back in the days of analog tv
44:54 <flyback> apple II
44:54 <flyback> amiga
44:57 <Nothing\> like in the 90's
45:27 <flyback> 90's was amiga
46:06 <Nothing\> although i got this app note from TI about CRT displays and it had a table of the different clock speeds you'd need as display resolution increases, and it gets really fast really quick as they get bigger
46:14 <Nothing\> lol amiga
46:17 <Nothing\> somebody's from the UK
46:32 <flyback> https://prevueguide.com/EPGJr.JPG
46:42 <Nothing\> i was a commodore 64 boy
46:48 <flyback> https://prevueguide.com/Atari130XE.JPG
46:53 <Nothing\> never had an atari computer though
46:57 <Ampera> oh that looks neat
47:05 <Nothing\> we had at adam
47:12 <Nothing\> and a gemini
47:18 <Nothing\> which was a knockoff of the 2800
47:23 <flyback> https://atariage.com/forums/topic/118580-130xe-tv-station-setup/
47:25 <EEVBot> [Title] - 130XE TV station setup - Atari 8-Bit Computers - AtariAge Forums
47:35 <Nothing\> i keep forgetting about atari age
47:43 <Nothing\> i should check out their forums some time
48:16 <flyback> https://prevueguide.com/wiki/EPG_Jr.
48:18 <EEVBot> [Title] - EPG Jr. - Prevue Guide Wiki
48:41 <Nothing\> i always hear pat contri talking about them on his podcast, completely unnecessary podcast. It's about retro gaming and collecting retro games and like that
49:06 <Nothing\> flyback, is that the tv guide?
49:12 <flyback> yeah
49:14 <Nothing\> cuz that's more what i was imagining
49:15 <flyback> early form
49:20 <Nothing\> not a room full of computers
49:25 <Nothing\> like something out of the 50's
50:05 <flyback> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/History_of_Pop_(American_TV_channel)
50:06 <EEVBot> [Title] - History of Pop (American TV channel) - Wikiwand
50:09 <Nothing\> but yeah all you'd really need is the data on the ROM, and an interface between that and the broadcast
50:24 <flyback> pop is what tv guide channel became
50:28 <Nothing\> the interface would take a good bit of kit, i'd imagine
50:35 <Nothing\> just converting line levels
51:17 <Nothing\> the channel technology connections has a really good video on how they used to do closed captioning
51:28 <Nothing\> it was really clever how they did it
52:06 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SL6zs2bDks
52:07 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Closed Captioning: More Ingenious than You Know
52:17 <Nothing\> here, if anyone ever feels like watching it
52:56 <Nothing\> if you haven't seen the channel itself, it's definitely worth checking out if you like media and techonology
53:02 <Nothing\> and how such things work
53:12 <flyback> hmm can't find the apple stuff
53:33 <flyback> yeah I follow tech connections
53:35 <flyback> he's funny sometimes
53:40 <rust_collector> heh, I get back here, and find it amusing that some guy is yelling canadian to a canadian, lol
53:40 <Nothing\> he is
53:46 <Nothing\> he's also getting rather shaggy
54:03 <Nothing\> you can tell it's been a while since he's been able to get to have his hair cut
54:22 <Nothing\> lol i eventually just gave up and bought clippers and now i just shave my head to like 1/4in
54:27 <flyback> oh he really is a canuck?
54:28 <flyback> HAHAHAH
54:51 <rust_collector> well, it is only partially his fault
54:53 <flyback> in that case
54:54 <flyback> BMCC
55:01 <flyback> BITE MY "CANUCK"..........................CANUCK!
55:05 <Nothing\> flyback, lol you didn't actually know i was canadian?
55:09 <flyback> NOPE
55:15 <Nothing\> good call, then
55:26 <Nothing\> you filthy limey
55:28 <Nothing\> :P
55:39 * Nothing\ shouts
55:48 <Nothing\> GOD SAVE OUR GRACIOUS PRIME MINISTER!
56:07 <rust_collector> the black squirrel!
56:27 <Nothing\> apparently black squirrels are the same as grey ones
56:35 <Nothing\> they're just different colors.
56:39 <rust_collector> no
56:52 <Nothing\> i always thought they were two different species. Like the grey ones and red ones.
56:53 <rust_collector> they are different, so they are different
57:18 <Nothing\> yeah i never understood taxonomy that way
57:37 <Nothing\> it's like, you can be totally different colors but still be the same species
58:08 <Nothing\> but if you look completely identical, save for maybe a small bump at the base of your skull, suddenly you're a whole distinct species
58:13 <Nothing\> know what i mean?
58:30 <rust_collector> if you mean that cow is one kind, human is a different one, and banana is a third, then ok, sure
58:51 <Nothing\> exactly
59:16 <Nothing\> lol my cat's licking one of his toys
59:30 <Nothing\> it's full of catnip and some sort of vine that's supposed to make them goofy like catnip
01:17 <rust_collector> have not you had enough issues with stuff like that? why do you have to mess up your cat also? I figured it was bad enough that you poison squirrels with peanuts....
12:44 <Lord_of_nothing> who elese watch the ESC?
12:51 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera
12:52 <rust_collector> just Ampera
13:12 <Ampera> I'm the only one german enough to do it >:D
13:18 <rust_collector> and old knitting women drinking sherry
13:29 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, german != gay
13:51 <Ampera> rust_collector, excuse me, it's called crochet, and it's not sherry, it's port
14:33 <rust_collector> you have to be a very very western german
17:58 <Lord_of_nothing> Thanks I life not in Germany.
18:19 <rust_collector> neither does ampera
18:20 <Nothing\> lol
18:43 <Nothing\> my brother got a UTI from screwing the ex of the guy who beat the shit out of him
19:08 <Nothing\> it's funny cuz we've all been telling him not to be poking skeezes women without a rubber
19:29 <Ampera> how much do you wanna guess israel places last :P
19:49 <Nothing\> in what?
19:56 <Nothing\> the war for the gaza strip?
20:02 <rust_collector> they will try all they can to get last, so they can be miserable, like they are supposed to
20:27 <Lord_of_nothing> the germans looting currently some sinagoges
21:06 <Ampera> Nothing\, no, a far more grisly and horrific endeavor
21:08 <Ampera> a singing contest
21:23 <Ampera> well, technically a song contest
21:42 <Nothing\> eww
21:50 <Nothing\> so warcrime
22:02 <Ampera> crime against humanity
22:25 <Nothing\> just need to get yoko ono in there
23:03 <Nothing\> hey yeah
23:17 <Nothing\> maybe i'll play one of the civ games to pass the time and alleviate my boredom
23:23 <Nothing\> like alpha centauri
23:28 <Nothing\> or civ 4
23:48 <Nothing\> yeah maybe i'll play civ iv
24:11 <rust_collector> you should get civ civ
24:23 <Lord_of_nothing> what does the sind about?
24:30 <Lord_of_nothing> Who is las snide?
26:23 <rust_collector> what?
30:26 <Lord_of_nothing> watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msfdz_aksY8
30:27 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Eurovision Song Contest 2021 - Grand Final - Live Stream
30:50 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... civ vi..... sounds like a plan
31:45 <rust_collector> oh gawd, why have they not banned that song stuff decades ago
32:27 <Ysjoelfir> well, I banned that from my TV a decade ago
32:55 <rust_collector> that was around the time you won, wasn't it?
32:57 <rust_collector> lol
33:47 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, we won with that absolutely retarded lena girl that couldn't even sing.
34:38 <rust_collector> well, it was better than most stuff that has been on there, imo
34:47 <Ysjoelfir> I enjoyed that ESC thing when it realy was about the nations songs, like, having artists FROM that land singing songs IN THE LANGUAGE of the land they were representing.
35:12 <rust_collector> yeh, that is a thing
37:19 <rust_collector> like the finns talking shit abut all the other countries, because no one would notice anyway
37:43 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D Yeah, probably.
37:56 <Ysjoelfir> maybe the hungarians could kind of notice, but I doubt it
39:02 <rust_collector> nah. it is pretty different. it is more like they have the same system, 3 generations ago, but I do not think it they are similar enough.
39:46 <Ysjoelfir> Thats probably the case
41:23 <rust_collector> so, I found the fireplace thing outside. I think I can save it. it is mostly the fire bricks inside, that has fallen off
41:38 <Ysjoelfir> how long did you search for it?
42:27 <rust_collector> I had the coordinates, so it was more about getting a helicopter to drop me off there
42:45 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds easy enough.
43:31 <rust_collector> yeah, well, in most places, but most just said "no no, we no fly there mr sir. Is muy danger"
44:00 <Ysjoelfir> did you still not disarm the landmines in your backyard?
44:04 <rust_collector> I did find an old drunk guy, who agreed, but I don't think he was actually a pilot
44:37 <rust_collector> no, never, all those creepy neighbors...
45:34 <rust_collector> but after using the anti tank mines, with the little anti personel igniter things, they have been much more fun, and effective
48:39 <Ysjoelfir> cool, I should try that on my landlordladybitch
49:17 Quit: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit: Leaving
52:18 <rust_collector> nah, just put her on fire, and watch her run
52:31 <Ysjoelfir> oh I would love to
06:06 <Lord_of_nothing> i dont like the spanish
06:45 <Ysjoelfir> then set them on fire
06:59 <rust_collector> yeah. buuuurn
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27:55 <MrMobodies> Hello
28:03 <MrMobodies> look what I found
28:04 <MrMobodies> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51294395
28:05 <rust_collector> hoioo
28:06 <EEVBot> [Title] - BT to charge people Â£50 for keeping old wi-fi routers - BBC News
28:19 <MrMobodies> they want to charge customers £60 to keep their old router
28:26 <MrMobodies> to reduce waste
28:41 <MrMobodies> but what if the customers wants to use the wireless radio for something
28:51 <MrMobodies> that's after the contract
29:00 <rust_collector> yes that is bullshit, but, it looks like it is nice and green
29:09 <MrMobodies> if my ISP did that to me, I'd say stuff the router it's yours you can have it bacj
29:24 <rust_collector> well, that is the point, so...
29:44 <MrMobodies> my ISP charged me £9.99 for each
29:52 <MrMobodies> it is mine after the contract
29:57 <MrMobodies> I don't use them of course
30:00 <MrMobodies> they have a flaw
30:28 <MrMobodies> anyone can log in port 80, all they have to do is type "engineer/engineer"
31:20 <MrMobodies> there are settings in the config where I can decrypt it but I can't sign it for it to accept and no key
31:44 <MrMobodies> I suppose they are just good as wifi, access points, there is a mode for that
31:55 <MrMobodies> wan port if managed by my pfsense router
32:06 <MrMobodies> supports system log but no telnet
32:17 <MrMobodies> even my isp didn't know there was engineers login
32:52 <MrMobodies> the talktalk hg651 did that but I had a python script and the correct key to encrypt and sign it
32:56 <Lord_of_nothing> i told my isp that i just want have a modem for manual dial in via DSL
33:07 <MrMobodies> the way to go
33:08 <Lord_of_nothing> My Business Router do the rest
33:12 <MrMobodies> I like it seperate
33:53 <Lord_of_nothing> I thought about a LTE Flat but the fix ip cost me to much
33:57 <MrMobodies> including the access points, I just switch them off unless I was using the router just for that
34:46 <Lord_of_nothing> lol you are happy to get permission to switch Wifi of at your Router.
35:07 <MrMobodies> yes that's a really good idea
35:16 <MrMobodies> a mode in their just as an access point
35:24 <MrMobodies> it was a DSL port, wan2 port
35:30 <MrMobodies> so it could be useful in some ways
35:37 <MrMobodies> I'll get them out later
35:54 <Lord_of_nothing> omg the french song is horribe got to visit the bathroom
35:55 <MrMobodies> if you are interested I can let you have a look at it
36:05 <MrMobodies> I;ll just port forward it
36:26 <MrMobodies> ooh french song made you to toilet
36:46 <MrMobodies> I don't hear many French songs
36:51 <MrMobodies> but I like their cakes
37:00 <MrMobodies> when they say chocolate they mean chocolate
37:06 <rust_collector> it is great. at least much better than the other ones
37:10 <MrMobodies> not a lousy cream
37:45 <MrMobodies> at the supermarkets like Terrible tescos and sainsbuy's I call their bakery the fakery
37:57 <MrMobodies> because their cakes to me look fake
38:34 <MrMobodies> chocolate eclair, 10% chocolate ontop, tiny little bit of chocolate, just bite into it and the whole disintegrates into cream
38:45 <MrMobodies> and makes a mess
39:00 <Lord_of_nothing> i would say the most watched youtube live feed on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msfdz_aksY8
39:01 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Eurovision Song Contest 2021 - Grand Final - Live Stream
39:03 <Lord_of_nothing> right now
39:09 <rust_collector> well, you could stop being english. that would help, I guess
39:34 <MrMobodies> ridiculus
39:34 <MrMobodies> Video unavailable
39:35 <MrMobodies> The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
39:40 <Lord_of_nothing> the ukrainan with ШУМ was good
39:50 <MrMobodies> and I can't be bothered to start inb a live proxy
39:55 <Lord_of_nothing> omg in waht country are you?
39:57 <rust_collector> you should be glad you can not hear that crap
40:15 <MrMobodies> oh is it the french thing?
40:20 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/c/EurovisionSongContest/videos
40:21 <MrMobodies> England
40:40 <Lord_of_nothing> omg uk is a part of the EBU so you should get permission to watch
40:59 <rust_collector> ebu?
41:00 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/c/EurovisionSongContest/videos?view=2&live_view=501
41:08 <Lord_of_nothing> european broadcast uniton
41:16 <rust_collector> mmhmm
41:18 <Lord_of_nothing> who australia is a part of it
41:29 <MrMobodies> 13K up 2.5K down comments disabled
41:32 <MrMobodies> oh
41:41 <MrMobodies> I wonder if is because England has left the EU
41:47 <MrMobodies> and they decided here
41:50 <MrMobodies> Lordofnothing
41:56 <MrMobodies> are you in us?
41:59 <MrMobodies> America
42:01 <rust_collector> no
42:02 <Lord_of_nothing> omg now Austria
42:17 <MrMobodies> and thats part of th eu
42:20 <MrMobodies> that's make sense
42:27 <MrMobodies> England is out of the eu
42:39 <MrMobodies> so they wouldn't allow non eu members
42:42 <rust_collector> eu does not really have anything to do with that
42:42 <Lord_of_nothing> sadly my country lost the 2nd semi finale
43:10 <Lord_of_nothing> since russia, australia is in
44:02 <MrMobodies> oh
45:33 <Lord_of_nothing> well UK never was fully in the EU
47:05 <MrMobodies> when I was school all those years
47:13 <MrMobodies> I didn't even know about the single market
47:23 <MrMobodies> or what was happening
47:50 <MrMobodies> apart from the low level theoretical bullshit they were shoving down my throat.
48:28 <MrMobodies> oh and dare start debate and they call you a trouble maker.
48:33 <MrMobodies> and backchatter
48:51 <MrMobodies> but even after that I never knew
49:15 <MrMobodies> it was only in 2005 when the immigrants were coming over in masses through France
49:44 <MrMobodies> and more in the 2015 when a poll started, lots of people giving leaflets on the streets
49:54 <Lord_of_nothing> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:EBU_Member.svg
49:56 <EEVBot> [Title] - Datei:EBU Member.svg – Wikipedia
50:22 <MrMobodies> Must be an old, Britain still blue
50:31 <Lord_of_nothing> well you know why i order some special gear
52:00 <Lord_of_nothing> thats stuff is damn heavy but hopefully work
52:14 <MrMobodies> gear?
52:39 <MrMobodies> broadcasting gear?
52:55 <Lord_of_nothing> ballistic protection
53:21 <MrMobodies> violence in your place?
54:55 <Lord_of_nothing> well when the money is nothing worth and the pepole not have anythink to eat what will happen...
55:37 <MrMobodies> You mean people murder others for money so they can afford food
55:50 <rust_collector> they will eat the fat people first, is my guess
55:51 <MrMobodies> I thought Austria was a nice play
55:57 <MrMobodies> oop *place
56:23 <Lord_of_nothing> when the people get hungry to start to loot
57:04 <Lord_of_nothing> in the us the blm people looted supermarkets and stole tv, sneakers,...
58:01 <MrMobodies> oh well I am going to ave a little play with those ISP routers, I think they are technicolor
58:15 <MrMobodies> if you wantr i can port forward it and you can play around with it
58:21 <MrMobodies> at the moment that is what it is good for
59:38 <MrMobodies> whoever designed it was a genius, lock the user out of the config, hide telnet options and syslog (engineer menu for syslog) but allow access to port 80 and engineer/engineer.
00:01 <MrMobodies> so if there was a vulnerability they would have more control than I would
00:26 <MrMobodies> I can't stand that, giving crooks more control over stuff than I would ever get
09:13 <Lord_of_nothing> i am happy with my business router i can set everything usefull like a speed limit
09:32 <Lord_of_nothing> to avoid that a user capture the hole bandwith
09:43 <Lord_of_nothing> i have a cheap package with 10mb down and 1mb up
09:55 <Lord_of_nothing> i would say its enough wenn nobody play stupid
12:46 * rust_collector pours coffee on everyone. 
45:34 * hsn everyone pours tea on rust_collector 
46:33 <rust_collector> hah! tea has no effect on me.
46:58 <jaymax> Even compost tea?
47:10 <rust_collector> all tea is
48:11 <jaymax> That's a load of horsecrap ... that was waterboarded.
48:34 <rust_collector> more horses should be waterboarded
49:14 <jaymax> Not wrong there.
50:28 <Ysjoelfir> I assume kuschelpony would disagree
51:28 <rust_collector> well, people are into different things. I do not know how he feels about wet towels
52:52 <Ampera> welp, I've kicked Xen off my server, and have been trying out bhyve
52:56 <Ampera> and wow is it way faster than Xen
52:58 <Ampera> and better
53:05 <Ampera> and now I know why nobody uses Xen anymore
58:20 <rust_collector> are they done "singing" yet?
07:06 <rust_collector> I guess not
10:44 <electrohead> EEVBot: ggive beer to Ysjoelfir
10:45 <EEVBot> electrohead: nega-tory, ghost rider!
10:49 <electrohead> EEVBot: give beer to Ysjoelfir
10:50 * EEVBot bathes Ysjoelfir in beer
10:55 <electrohead> would help to type correctly
11:04 * Ysjoelfir burps
13:39 <electrohead> how goes it and stuff?
14:09 <rust_collector> *buuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUuurp*
15:32 <Ysjoelfir> tired. and undecided
19:39 <rust_collector> I get mixed confusion from this: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/suchen-funktionsfaehiges-mikroskop/1727483475-23-8859
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21:09 <Ysjoelfir> erm
21:58 <electrohead> undecided on what?
24:15 <Ysjoelfir> the guy is searching a microscope with a picture of a wolf in the category "for free"
24:41 <Ysjoelfir> oh you meant me
26:19 <Ysjoelfir> undecided on two things: a) NAS, nor no NAS, b) Get 2 20" 4:3 LCDs for my lab PC that are for sale for 55€ for two, or wait for some cheap NEC LCD2180UX or 2190UX, which seems to be the biggest 4:3 I could find.
28:36 <rust_collector> I wonder if I have been looking too far down the list, when microscope has a meter for "ion pump vacuum"
28:50 <MrMobodies> Every release of chrome and I find something silly
29:09 <MrMobodies> Chrome 90
29:10 <MrMobodies> https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/110844649
29:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - Configuring router but Chrome 90+ won't allow me go log in router until internet connectivity. - Google Chrome Community
30:00 <MrMobodies> won't let me go any further
30:19 <MrMobodies> but the ancient internet explorer is fine and Chrome 88
30:32 <MrMobodies> what do you think of that?
31:06 <rust_collector> I think you have too many browsers
31:42 <MrMobodies> actually not this time
31:45 <MrMobodies> that was an old laptop
31:50 <MrMobodies> that happened to upgrade to Chrome 90
31:59 <MrMobodies> the ones it worked on were Chrome 88
32:07 <MrMobodies> so this seems ot be a recent change
32:40 <MrMobodies> you can see why I setup profile and keep the program in a different folder to keep it the same until it is required
32:51 <MrMobodies> but I do allow updates to happen in the main program files folder
33:14 <MrMobodies> where it loads the default profile in the /appdata/google/chrome
33:23 <MrMobodies> just incase things like this happen
33:32 <MrMobodies> that stops me working
33:56 <MrMobodies> so I'd thought I'd report for any developers who maybe listening
35:20 <MrMobodies> time for tea
35:26 <MrMobodies> nd picked onions
36:27 <Ysjoelfir> gn8
36:40 <rust_collector> night on you
50:54 <electrohead> sorry, got busy again here at the store
51:19 <rust_collector> oh no! doing work things at work....
51:36 <electrohead> goof :p
51:41 <DHess_US> https://ibb.co/hgCYprp
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52:07 <Ampera> Italy won
52:12 <Ampera> Germany got 2nd to last
52:15 <Ampera> with 3 points
55:52 <rust_collector> BOX!
56:43 <DHess_US> Subwoofer enclosure.
57:08 <DHess_US> So yes, a box.
03:11 <MrMobodies> that' box looks nice
05:46 <rust_collector> good box
15:31 <DHess_US> I won't really know if it is nice until I put it back together and tune it. That is what the discussion thread is about. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/llow-frequency-ac-repsonse-of-digital-multimeters/
15:34 <EEVBot> [Title] - LLow Frequency AC Repsonse of Digital Multimeters - Page 1
15:43 <DHess_US> It's sure heavy. I made some improvements like adding bracing on the inside.
16:35 <DHess_US> My initial tests show that the enclosure size is correct, my the lower resonance peak is just barely outside the range that my best AC voltmeter can measure accurately.
16:44 <rust_collector> heavy is good. it keeps people from stealing it so quickly
18:05 <DHess_US> Here is the kit if you want to build one, https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-6-1-2-Down-Firing-Passive-Mini-Subwoofer-Kit-300-7160
18:06 <EEVBot> [Title] - Dayton Audio 6-1/2" Down Firing Passive Mini Subwoofer Kit
21:20 <rust_collector> hmm, 6.5" sub. that sounds... like it would work indoors. I am not sure if I have ever had a small sub like that. i do think the one kid #1 had was around that size, but in a slightly smaller box, and it was pretty damn loud
23:15 <rust_collector> i have not had any stereo stuff at all in many years.
33:44 <DHess_US> It definitely makes a difference in the sound. My tiny 2.1 amplifier has subwoofer volume and cutoff frequency controls.
34:18 <DHess_US> This is just for my computer. I broke the computer speakers I was using when I upgraded my system at the end of last year.
34:42 <DHess_US> So I picked up some two-way bookshelf speakers and now this subwoofer. I was using the old subwoofer but it pretty much sucked.
35:29 <MrMobodies> I am hoping one day I can get audio in this workshop without my headphones
35:37 <DHess_US> Every computer should have at least 50 watts per channel and a 100 watt subwoofer. Don't you think?
35:38 <MrMobodies> and a subwoofer
35:48 <MrMobodies> oh yes
35:55 <MrMobodies> large speaker is what I want
35:59 <MrMobodies> and low volume
36:16 <MrMobodies> that Technicolour router
36:21 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/9JXBMnM.jpg
36:24 <DHess_US> I used to have 15 inch three way speakers on my computer. Then there was no need for a subwoofer.
36:28 <MrMobodies> isn't that nice can be set as an access point
36:33 <MrMobodies> ooh thats big
36:35 <MrMobodies> 15 inch
36:42 <DHess_US> That's what she said!
37:14 <MrMobodies> I have got some Bang and Oulfseen 1975 speak I think they might be something like 7 inch or so
37:22 <MrMobodies> but they are 6 ohms I think
37:41 <MrMobodies> it is put away somewhere but I am thinking of using them in my workshop
37:52 <MrMobodies> when it is all finished
38:06 <MrMobodies> won't wake anybody up with those
38:21 <MrMobodies> it's an extension on the outer wall
38:57 <MrMobodies> is that metal paint on your box?
39:41 <MrMobodies> Dhess https://ibb.co/hgCYprp
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02:03 <rust_collector> i am thinking about making one of the standard internet "headphone amplifier" things, I guess I will learn something from that as well.
02:28 <rust_collector> One thing I believe I will learn, is that I do not actually have any headphones
04:56 <DHess_US> Headphone amplifiers are pretty easy because at those power levels, 36 volt operational amplifiers have enough output range.
05:15 <DHess_US> Could even use a bunch of operational amplifiers in parallel.
05:21 <rust_collector> I like easy, lol
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07:13 <rust_collector> Hmm, iIrc, the one I saw was just one opamp, and a bd 139, and a bd140, and one more little transistor. some resistors and a pair of diodes. I am not expecting much, but if it works, that is good enough for me
08:00 <rust_collector> well, I have seen the same circuit in 100 different places.
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09:25 <rust_collector> hmm, I just had a shave, and I have somehow managed to cut myself in my ears. i thought that was sort of special
09:47 <DHess_US> There are a couple of options. The usual solution is complementary emitter follower inside the feedback loop but I don't like that one.
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10:56 <DHess_US> Something like this, https://www.electroschematics.com/hifi-headphone-amplifier/
11:08 <EEVBot> [Title] - HiFi Headphone Amplifier Circuit - ElectroSchematics.com
11:41 <DHess_US> Or more likely this, https://static-cdn.imageservice.cloud/1860880/headphone-amplifier-circuit-with-op-amp-basic-electronics-wiring.jpg
13:47 <DHess_US> I would do something like this, https://i.ibb.co/bLrFs6F/Figure-6-172-Voltage-Boosted-rail-rail-output-composite-operational-amplifier.png
14:17 <rust_collector> hmm, it is similar to the first two, but not quite. let me look at the last one
16:33 <DHess_US> You can find a variation of that last one going back to the 70s for exactly this application.
17:01 <DHess_US> Nobody uses it because they don't understand how it works.
17:11 <Nothing\> hey, i've been following this experiment. What's it do?
18:32 <rust_collector> hmm, I have to look at that a bit....
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21:03 <Nothing\> you know what'd be cool that i don't think anybody's done yet?
21:09 <Nothing\> miniature power tools
21:11 <rust_collector> the one I have been looking at, is I guess most similar to your first link, but it had a 3rd transistor.... iIrc, where the top resistor in the biasing part is... but I would have to find it again
22:10 * electrohead waves at Nothing\
22:23 <Nothing\> hey electrohead how are you?
22:28 <electrohead> hey mate
22:38 <electrohead> I'm doing good, working quite some from time to time, lol
22:40 <electrohead> you?
23:11 <Nothing\> not too bad at all thanks
25:32 <DHess_US> Here on PDF page 70, https://media.searchelec.com//specshee/FAIRCHI/1973_Fairchild_Linear_Integrated_Circuits_Data_Catalog.pdf
25:35 <DHess_US> 1973
26:51 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
27:05 * Nothing\ nuzzle snugs Ampera 
27:12 <Nothing\> lol
27:14 <Ampera> how are you doing Nothing\
27:25 <Nothing\> not too bad, you?
27:30 <Ampera> I am full of pizza
27:36 <Ampera> also italy won
27:55 <Nothing\> soccer?
28:01 <Ampera> eurovision
28:11 <Nothing\> singing?
28:14 <Ampera> songing
28:19 <Nothing\> ah
28:23 <Nothing\> cool
28:45 <Nothing\> not a fan but cool, none the less.
29:00 <Nothing\> nor have I heard of it
29:07 <Ampera> ?
29:17 Quit: EEVBot ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
29:39 <Nothing\> i have no idea
31:11 <Nothing\> you make me feel as though my head is about to fall off and explode and then a newer funnier one will come out
31:30 <Ampera> you're capable of being funnier than you are now?
31:35 <Ampera> you're the best joke I know
31:36 <Ampera> <3
31:39 <rust_collector> try it and see?
31:58 <Nothing\> nope
32:15 <Nothing\> that's only assuming you're not getting funnier
33:00 <Nothing\> but given the rate at which you're getting funnier is faster than my own
33:34 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/AbruptChaos/comments/nhtuva/cucumber_causing_discord_and_injury/
33:37 <Ampera> I am an expert at manufacturing jokes funny only to myself
33:40 <electrohead> I'll just put this here and walk away
33:41 <Nothing\> so i could only ever approach it, but never reach it
38:01 <Ampera> I am in an ultimate conundrum
38:07 <Ampera> I want to eat more pizza and wings, but I am full
38:17 <Ampera> I want to work on my hypervisor server, but I am tired
38:19 <rust_collector> nope, keep eating
38:24 <Ampera> I want to go to sleep, but I want to eat and do computer things
38:44 <rust_collector> you will develop a second stomach.
39:05 <Ampera> It'll end up being a minute stomach, but at least it'll be hour stomach.
39:22 <rust_collector> hurry up
44:14 <rust_collector> look at cows, they eat all day...
49:09 <rust_collector> DHess_US talking about stacking opamps... do you mean physically stacking them? I guess that would work in some cases?
57:21 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
57:41 <Nothing\> everyone's setting off fireworks
57:49 <rust_collector> not me
57:50 <Nothing\> dollar for the yanks who guesses why
58:35 <rust_collector> what do you want cheap yanks for?
05:11 <steve30> o/
10:49 <DHess_US> rust_collector, not exactly. Some means of balancing them for parallel operation is needed.
11:05 <DHess_US> There are a couple of ways to do that in the circuit.
11:33 <rust_collector> right. so similar to using parallel transistors?
12:44 <DHess_US> yes, except that the equivalent to base-emitter voltage is microvolts.
13:28 <DHess_US> And the voltage gain is 10s of thousands or even millions.
14:40 <rust_collector> hmmm, yes. well, I will look into that then. Not that I plan to do that.
15:02 <DHess_US> It isn't a terrible idea these days. In the past, operational amplifiers were too expensive to be used that way.
15:17 <DHess_US> But now it is almost reasonable.
16:10 <DHess_US> You won't get a lot of power that way, but headphones don't need a lot of power.
16:28 <rust_collector> i did a quick search, and many said it was almost impossible (to just stack them) and some said it could be done in some cases. behringer did in some model.
17:10 <DHess_US> They end up fighting each other because their input offset voltages do not match.
17:25 <rust_collector> no, but this could maybe be useful for something other than audio things, I guess, so I will have a look at that
18:35 <rust_collector> right. well, I will look that up tomorrow.
19:04 <rust_collector> thanks
20:30 <DHess_US> These are the two common ways:
20:36 <DHess_US> https://www.analog.com/en/technical-articles/paralleling-amplifiers-increases-output-drive.html#
20:43 <DHess_US> https://e2e.ti.com/blogs_/archives/b/thesignal/posts/paralleling-op-amps-is-it-possible
31:17 <rust_collector> those look pretty straight forward, and makes sense.
42:35 <MrMobodies> Hello
42:49 <rust_collector> HEY!
43:01 <MrMobodies> I tested that Kde plasma on a virtual machine
43:07 <MrMobodies> one thing I don't want it to do ever
43:08 <MrMobodies> is thos
43:09 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/QZkD8AI.jpg
43:37 <MrMobodies> I might be looking at something in the background you see and might move it around that menu
43:38 <rust_collector> oh, ubuntu
43:40 <MrMobodies> say setting the wifi
43:51 <MrMobodies> and it dim the screen and that infruriates me and hurts my eyes
44:07 <MrMobodies> I might try and email them
44:27 <MrMobodies> see what they can do to help
44:31 <MrMobodies> dimming madness
44:33 <MrMobodies> everywhere
44:42 <rust_collector> well, kde is pretty configurable, so I am pretty sure you can disable most of it
44:57 <MrMobodies> I hope so, if I can get the desktop up, that'd be a start
45:03 <MrMobodies> I have this little rubber pen
45:06 <rust_collector> are you going to try that on a phone?
45:08 <MrMobodies> for the small stuff
45:13 <MrMobodies> when I get the way I want
45:20 <MrMobodies> dimming I want gone in all shapes and form
45:33 <MrMobodies> the other stuff looks good
46:00 <MrMobodies> also I notice the when dims the virtual box slows down
46:13 <MrMobodies> it seems to consuming extra resource when it does that
46:36 <rust_collector> hmm, since you are mr browser around here... can I have the tab bars in firefox on 2 rows?
46:50 <rust_collector> well, I guess it does do stuff, so... probably yes
47:10 <rust_collector> I would not think it would do that much work, but... maybe
47:30 <MrMobodies> is this one
47:31 <MrMobodies> https://files.kde.org/neon/images/mobile/20210516-1708/
47:41 <MrMobodies> tab bars
47:56 <MrMobodies> I am not sure, lets see
50:13 <MrMobodies> yep, looks that is a Custom.css thing
50:14 <MrMobodies> https://support.mozilla.org/bm/questions/1273156#answer-1267584
50:27 <rust_collector> there is an addon, but I would like somethign built in
50:42 <MrMobodies> oh sorry one of the link aint working on the link
50:43 <rust_collector> oh, thanks. I will look at that
50:47 <MrMobodies> that'w ould be ideal
51:42 <MrMobodies> I;ll give this a try
51:43 <MrMobodies> https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/firefox-csshacks/blob/master/chrome/multi-row_bookmarks.css
51:48 <MrMobodies> just a minute
57:43 <MrMobodies> works
57:48 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/TNrKSHX.jpg
58:12 <MrMobodies> but it has go into userChrome.css
58:13 <Nothing\> i just got a crazy idea
58:21 <MrMobodies> and it only seems ot expand when the first bar is full
58:22 <Nothing\> drug testing dogs
58:58 <rust_collector> oh, but MrMobodies that is the bookmarks?
58:59 <MrMobodies> this one
59:00 <MrMobodies> https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/firefox-csshacks/blob/master/chrome/multi-row_bookmarks.css
59:18 <MrMobodies> aaah I am sorry
59:24 <MrMobodies> I misread
59:34 <MrMobodies> tab bars sorry
59:35 <rust_collector> ah yes. I was looking for the open tabs. but I think I might do bookmarks as well
00:01 <rust_collector> I have just a few too many to fit on one line, lol
10:55 <MrMobodies> hmm
10:56 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/6TuzTfp.jpg
11:06 <MrMobodies> I remember an extension that use to do that
11:09 <MrMobodies> Tabmixplus
11:27 <MrMobodies> that's not working to well past Firefox75 that script
11:29 <rust_collector> yes, I found that, but it does not seem to work any more
20:21 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/6TuzTfp.jpg
20:41 <MrMobodies> https://www.discourse.net/2020/12/how-to-restore-multi-line-tabs-to-firefox-83/
20:59 <rust_collector> heh, it looks like it almost works, lol
21:51 <rust_collector> I will try that, thanks
22:44 * Halcyon gives Ampera a wet willy
24:02 * steve30 pokes Halcyon 
24:18 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
24:35 <MrMobodies> unfortunately tabs seems to be restricted when on the bottom
24:41 <MrMobodies> but works fine when ontop of the address bar
25:05 <rust_collector> oh, ok. mmh, that wil be ok
26:14 <MrMobodies> https://pastebin.com/rzmmuLPW
27:04 <steve30> i should probably go out for a walk later
33:19 <Nothing\> they should make dogs that can find faults in circuits by smell
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46:15 * Halcyon licks electrohead
47:00 * electrohead films
47:06 <Halcyon> Weirdo
47:16 <MrMobodies> back from my washing
47:29 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/lYlt475.jpg
47:31 <Nothing\> with?
47:46 <MrMobodies> yep that seems to work but not if the tabs are at the bottom which is a shame for me
47:52 <MrMobodies> I like it like that
48:06 <MrMobodies> maybe needs some tweaking on the height somewhere
50:28 <Halcyon> Heheh chemsex
50:37 <electrohead> lol
50:42 <electrohead> hey :P
51:52 <Nothing\> how does one humanely euthenize a funbrella?
54:59 <electrohead> a funbrella?
55:01 <electrohead> wtf is that?
55:58 <rust_collector> heh, nope, the tab thing does not work for me
02:13 <Nothing\> it's an umbrella
02:16 <Nothing\> but it's fun
02:35 <Nothing\> an umbrella made of fun
07:04 <Halcyon> Oh I missed Dave's latest mailbag video
08:48 <steve30> The one with the V-Word joke? :p
09:47 <steve30> Also, I noticed episode 1394 contained a device with HDMI ports. He really ought to have featured something with firewire for episode 1394 :)
15:30 <MrMobodies> oh that's a shame
15:41 <MrMobodies> that was on the Firefox 88
15:56 <MrMobodies> I'll just double check that i have not pasted it wrongly
16:54 <rust_collector> I am also on 88, so it should work.
20:08 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/P9Nubvt.jpg
20:21 <MrMobodies> It seems I have to open many tabs for it start another row
20:35 <MrMobodies> I have checked the pastebin script which seems to match
20:53 <MrMobodies> https://pastebin.com/rzmmuLPW
21:44 <MrMobodies> 19 tabs
22:47 <rust_collector> yeah. no, that does not work here. I just get the "side to side arrow" buttons at the end of the tab bar, as usual
23:37 <MrMobodies> but does the bookmarks work?
24:59 <rust_collector> bookmarks are fine
24:59 <MrMobodies> I forgot to say
25:08 <MrMobodies> that paste bin contains both scripts
25:16 <MrMobodies> the bookmarks and tab
25:56 <rust_collector> oh, ok. the last time, I just copied it from that guys site. I will try yours again
27:53 <MrMobodies> sorry it doesn't work for you
28:14 <MrMobodies> I can give you my copy if you want, oh you're using linux
28:15 <rust_collector> nah, it is not your fault
28:21 <rust_collector> yes
29:55 <rust_collector> it is ok, I can go sideways 2-3 tabs now and then
30:26 <rust_collector> but it is a bit weird that neither the bookmarks, or tabs change at all
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37:47 <rust_collector> I think it is time for a nap. good night
41:30 <Halcyon> Hm, you can get debit/credit cards in ring form now: https://www.bankwest.com.au/personal/ways-to-pay/bankwest-halo
47:11 <MrMobodies> the sizing of the tabs and bookmarks
07:30 <MrMobodies> how easy would be for someone to skim that?
07:37 <MrMobodies> the Bankwest Halo ring
07:59 <MrMobodies> maybe you could do a threat on that sounds interesting
09:53 * steve30 back
10:48 <MrMobodies> steve30, a credit card in a ring
10:54 <MrMobodies> sounds interesting
11:02 <MrMobodies> but how easy it can it be skimmed
11:11 <steve30> i saw
11:17 <steve30> i have no plans to wear anything from a bank
11:34 <steve30> but yes, neat concept
12:28 <steve30> skimming wise probably no different to a card in your pocket
12:40 <MrMobodies> nice idea but can it amount to pick pocketing.
12:56 <MrMobodies> aaah
13:08 <MrMobodies> I didn't read correct yes the same thing
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14:08 <MrMobodies> they got drunk at the local pub yesterday
14:16 <MrMobodies> reminded me of some folks back in Essex
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14:34 <MrMobodies> I couldn't understand the combination of words they were using
15:07 <MrMobodies> they were talking about beans (refuse to tell me what kind of beans), rings, tattos
15:12 <MrMobodies> they were all over the place
15:14 <MrMobodies> so I left
15:25 <MrMobodies> they were perfectly sane an hour before when I arrived
15:47 <MrMobodies> they were all laughing about it 5 of them
16:03 <MrMobodies> like it mean't something but refuse to share their joke
16:26 <MrMobodies> getting rid of the pond
16:29 <MrMobodies> it is a white elephant
16:37 <MrMobodies> the previous occupant did the right thing
16:44 <MrMobodies> they used armoured cable
16:50 <MrMobodies> but still managed to bodge it up
21:52 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/zcI3kYa
22:12 <MrMobodies> they brought the right stuff but botched terminal strips covered in tape after the armoured cable
22:21 <MrMobodies> to power the pond pump and lights
22:37 <steve30> hehe
23:08 <MrMobodies> I know I got some years ago an insulted water proof gel box with a terminal strip for £8
23:11 <MrMobodies> don't cost much
23:32 <MrMobodies> in termd of safety and reliability
24:03 <MrMobodies> I am scavenging that cable incase i need it for something
24:07 <MrMobodies> too good to throw away
39:01 <MrMobodies> that man that Thundef00t criticised about his water to air thing he was reviewing
39:13 <MrMobodies> the one he called unboxed stupidity
39:30 <MrMobodies> I just looking curiously and seems have changed his tone a bit
39:31 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDmWgRwPrNg
39:43 <MrMobodies> reviewing anker stuff
40:40 <MrMobodies> I have box on Anker USB cables, the thick ones
40:56 <MrMobodies> that I got in 2016 of all different sizes
40:59 <MrMobodies> and none of them has failed me yet
43:56 <MrMobodies> well my laundry is finished three loads that went smoothy
44:07 <MrMobodies> no tissue and no stress
44:27 <MrMobodies> and ggot to bed
44:34 <MrMobodies> night
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07:53 <Halcyon> Brrr it's cold
07:59 <Halcyon> Time for air conditioning I think
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10:31 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Footy time. https://t.co/uIydKqP9YR
16:22 <Halcyon> I didn't know Dave was into football
16:24 <Halcyon> What a bogan :P
27:51 <DogWomble_> Football: Something you kick from one end of the field to the other
28:04 <DogWomble_> Umpire: Something you would like to kick from one end of the field to the other
59:28 <Kuschelpony> hmm, fascinating to read about singletrack gray codes
13:40 <Halcyon> What are you on about Kuschelpony ?
14:26 <Kuschelpony> ah, just filling my sunday morning with some fascinating math or logical curiousities
14:40 <Kuschelpony> and i just discovered whats called single track gray coedes
15:14 <Kuschelpony> for example, like a rotation sensor that has only a single track around its circomference, and a number of optointerruptors areound that
15:27 <Halcyon> steve30: Cute farm boy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YWaczhSRjI
15:27 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Cat Gives Her Dad Hugs All Day, Every Day | The Dodo Cat Crazy
15:51 <Kuschelpony> and with veryy clever math, you can sense for example 360 degrees of rotation with 9 sensors on one single track
16:19 <Kuschelpony> not like traditional encoder discs that need 9 tracks, one for each sensor
19:32 <Kuschelpony> trying to "digest" that pdf for now
19:36 <Kuschelpony> https://codeload.github.com/gbotev1/single-track-gray-codes/zip/refs/heads/master
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48:34 <Halcyon> Ampera, you about?
48:45 <Halcyon> Anyone else want to play a game of Golf with your Friends?
48:57 <Erhard> huh?
49:04 <Halcyon> On Steam
49:11 <Erhard> Ah
49:19 <Halcyon> A few of us are playing
49:24 <Erhard> I don't think I have that.
49:33 * Erhard will kill youon CS:GO
49:41 * Halcyon is not a gamer
49:46 <Erhard> lol
00:28 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
00:40 <Kuschelpony> MoinMoin
01:01 <Ysjoelfir> I consider moving to the moinmoin region, so that fits pretty good :D
01:27 <Kuschelpony> so you are considering moving to north germany?
02:07 <Ysjoelfir> yep, back to where my family originated from. I grew up in the Ruhrgebiet, but originally the family came from hamburg
02:30 <Kuschelpony> ah
15:51 <Ysjoelfir> I think I'll play a good old game. Anybody happened to have played KKND back than?
24:22 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, do you have an old DOS/Windows PC?
25:47 <Ysjoelfir> in parts that I want to make to a retro PC and build it in an apple powermac G3 case, yes
26:18 <Halcyon> I have a copy of Sim City 2000 Network Edition (which I assume is TCP/IP based). I have *never* played it
28:48 <Ysjoelfir> I have played Sim City.... maybe once. Was never realy my game. Though I realy enjoyed the modern 3D version
35:24 <Ysjoelfir> So, I decided that I'll not remake my NAS. All the features I wanted I never realy used, so.... meh. More hassle than its worth. Instead I try to get some used 1 to 2TB 2.5" HDDs to stuff in my PC.
36:28 <Ysjoelfir> Also I consider getting that cute little Case for my Lab Workstation. https://www.ebay.de/itm/133762732211?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
36:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - Chenbro SR10569 Server-/Workstation-Gehause | eBay
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11:24 <Lemon> hi peeps
12:13 <Halcyon> Hey Lemon
12:18 <Halcyon> How are you?
12:29 <Lemon> hooo im doing good and you ? :>
13:17 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, you ignore me but talk to lemon, I am very disappointed and highly sad :_: XD
13:32 <Halcyon> I never ignore you
14:01 <Ysjoelfir> but you just did! :D
14:36 <Halcyon> Love you
28:09 * T3sl4 whistles at Halcyon
28:20 <Halcyon> Hey gurrrrlll
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45:23 <Halcyon> This... is... random: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bL1cf5JiaY
45:24 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Emperor just picking up a few things.
48:40 <T3sl4> Halcyon: the comment has it perfect "This is just a irl robot chicken skit and I love it."
49:48 <Halcyon> Yup
50:53 <Halcyon> This guy has way too much time/fun
50:58 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq6E578h1LY
50:59 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: The Emperor's New Toy! Star Wars Hasbro Black Series Saber Unboxing
55:15 <Halcyon> He is acrually quite attractive without his costume
55:23 <Halcyon> *actually
27:57 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, recommendation for cheap 2.5" HDDs? the last time I bought a new HDD was when Maxtor was still around
38:28 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
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42:04 <rust_collector> hmm, you use laptop drives?
44:49 <rust_collector> wow, it looks like spinning laptop drives are pretty uncommon now. my local dealer only has 2 seagates, and the rest is ssds
48:38 <Ysjoelfir> yep, I have one of those neat 4x2.5" in 1 5.25" slot thingies.
48:50 <rust_collector> oooh
59:31 <Lord_of_nothing> Hey everyone
00:03 <Lord_of_nothing> there a lot of cheap ssd out there so i would not buy a hdd for an laptop
00:26 <Ysjoelfir> your definition of cheap is a different one than mint I guess
00:40 <Ysjoelfir> the cheapest 2TB SSD is WAY more expensive than a 2TB HDD
04:51 <rust_collector> heeeeeeeeyyyaaaaaaaaaaaa heeeeeeeyyyaaaaaaaaaaa
05:28 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Another Branch Education video with production quality that's too good for Youtube: https://t.co/7Ag1PGyi5t
08:57 <rust_collector> welcome to the place usb cables go to disappear
09:35 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
10:21 <rust_collector> it is one of the big old ones, for the printer... no one wants that
11:35 <Ysjoelfir> maybe for nostalgic reasons
11:49 <Ysjoelfir> or for my microphone, that has that stupid thing as well
12:05 <rust_collector> I don't think anyone here is old enough to be nostalgic about these
12:17 <rust_collector> hmmmmmm
19:01 <rust_collector> does anyone need a battery charger for some random canon camera thing?
27:43 <Ysjoelfir> you could use that to make a nice PSU
28:05 <rust_collector> eeeeeeeh.....
28:12 <rust_collector> maybe,
28:24 <rust_collector> but if someone needs an old canon thing...
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42:04 <rust_collector> wth is the thing about "I only made nicaraguan food for 24 hours" or...other countries.... I can skip eating for 24 hours no problem, so making maybe one meal should not be worth a video?
43:31 <Ysjoelfir> I agree. that sounds a bit... not hard
44:35 <rust_collector> and it turns out mcdonalds does takeaway in my selected country. I will do ok-ish
45:06 <rust_collector> one bag of cheeseburgers!
45:26 <coppice> It sounds like the next to last resort of someone who has run out of ideas for videos. The next step is making reality TV shows
45:40 <rust_collector> yes, that is the feeling I get
46:07 <rust_collector> if it was a month, that could maybe be interesting
48:09 <coppice> Pick a country and survive for a month on the McD menu in that country
48:58 <rust_collector> UNPOSSIBLE!
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01:06 <Ampera> Finished moving my website from my old server onto my new server
15:40 <T3sl4> steve30000000 wondering where the snacks are: https://imgur.com/gallery/WXtyFmM
15:41 <EEVBot> [Title] - It's weigh day - Album on Imgur
38:01 <rust_collector> I sit on your garden in pot
39:50 * rust_collector gives https://ibb.co/XFcTf3L to everyone
44:48 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Wow, some serious crypto buying opportunities right now. Once again, the noobs will panic and lose. Be greedy when others are fearful.
50:05 <T3sl4> rust_collector: oooooooooooooooooooooooooh
53:11 <rust_collector> yes, it is a bit communist.
59:43 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/v23IDys.png
59:51 <coppice> rust_collector: blackberries or blood?
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